From jaburke4 at verizon.net Mon Mar 1 00:29:49 2010 From: jaburke4 at verizon.net (John Burkhauser) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:29:49 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Since that hiking trail is closed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's Knuckin Futz! John Burkhauser jaburke4 at verizon.net From 321design at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 00:50:15 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:50:15 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Don't NEED a kitchen remodel this way. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74d2fbe11002281650o76d3212ci46edb4af32eaa69c@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > British PSA on kitchen grease fires. > > Don't throw water on a grease fire: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZGzbd0IvUE Surprised they suggest to throw a damp cloth over the pot .I always heard you should put a lid on it. Seems like you run more risk if you miss and a corner of the damp rag falls into the burning oil; you would have a hell of a wick. -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From kaldewaay at live.com Mon Mar 1 00:51:00 2010 From: kaldewaay at live.com (Alain Kaldewaay) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:51:00 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Labrador ride "walk" about Message-ID: Dear riders friends, Mac-Pac, Next weekend I, ALain Kaldewaay DAK suggest a get together at my place, Nottingham, PA for a riders meeting for the Trans Labrador Highway to Goose bay meeting. The reason I'm requesting this we have Nazi puppies German Shepherd that need to be socialized with strange people like you the Mac-Pac. Please bring your spouse for this event and children. The day is set for Sunday March 7th 2010 at 10:00 am sharp the spouse will not be involved in the trip proceedings but they will have a hell off a time with the puppies. Those who will be attending the riders meeting "JIM, COREY" will need to bring some great exceptional id?e's and riding suggestions since i'm only hosting this riders event. Please RSVP I will have good Dutch beer and snacks and coffee as needed. DAK My day off are from June 21st 2010 till Aug 23rd 2010 Anybody in put please. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ From rsorens at comcast.net Mon Mar 1 00:52:04 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:52:04 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Don't NEED a kitchen remodel this way. In-Reply-To: <74d2fbe11002281650o76d3212ci46edb4af32eaa69c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >...Seems like you run more risk if you miss and a corner of the damp rag falls into the burning oil; you would have a hell of a wick.'WICK" "WICK"????? Think: water, boiling, flaming oil....toss in a little bit of water.....now think FLYING flaming oil! Put a lid on it, use the extinguisher if it gets out of hand, the GET THE F OUT! RICK From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Mar 1 00:54:29 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:54:29 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: My turn. Message-ID: <8efae.4cfec124.38bc6a45@aol.com> In a message dated 2/28/2010 10:28:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mjcantwe at gmail.com writes: Personally, I've had pretty good success controlling scale with dormant oil. http://www.ext.colostate.edu/PUBS/INSECT/05569.html ================================================ There is a wonderful list of windows of opportunities for when applications of insecticides are most effective for controlling particular pests. I heard a presentation at one of our plant health care symposiums some years ago regarding it, and a hand out was provided. For example, it would peg the application for controlling a certain pest to when other events in the plant kingdom were ocuring.( Like when Redbuds are blooming in the forest, you should apply product "xyz" to plant "abc" to control pests "123.") I don't have a copy of the list any more but I'm sure one could find it. If anyone thinks it would be useful to them and can't find it, let me know and I will take the time to locate it. Roddy. From rsorens at comcast.net Mon Mar 1 00:54:44 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:54:44 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Labrador ride "walk" about In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The reason I'm requesting this we have Nazi puppies German Shepherd that need to be socialized with >strange people like you the Mac-Pac. >Please bring your spouse for this event and children. 'children'? Do the dogs need to be fed? :-{) From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 00:34:40 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:34:40 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Since that hiking trail is closed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2/28/10, John Burkhauser wrote: > That's Knuckin Futz! You underestimage Chris!!! He might not take Melinda as passenger, if he does not want to match Wayne for pissed off kidneys. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Mar 1 01:09:04 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:09:04 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Labrador ride "walk" about In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC86F2EB7B147D-46A4-117EF@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> I plan on coming...maybe with wife! Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From 321design at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 01:11:13 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:11:13 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rode today Message-ID: <74d2fbe11002281711i6afb0ebdwb58fd8620f6d4ca8@mail.gmail.com> Had a nice little ride today; about 60 miles down 202 and Route 1. Not very challenging but just getting on the bike was a good thing. Stopped for a dog at Jimmy Johns - http://www.jimmyjohns1940.com/ Not too impressed with their dogs, to mild for me but I did enjoy the history and nostalgic quality of the place. Back home, washed and dried the bike then put her to bed. Warm weather riding is right around the corner. -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Mar 1 01:12:30 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:12:30 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Since that hiking trail is closed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4B8ACE2E.5407.13D4BF77@localhost> > Maybe Chris should take a shot at this one: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsYNFhO6c8g > (WS) > > You can even ride a bike on this one. I do wonder what it was > constructed for. There is a sign post at the end. > > Man that was scary. No thanks. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Mar 1 01:15:05 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:15:05 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rode today In-Reply-To: <74d2fbe11002281711i6afb0ebdwb58fd8620f6d4ca8@mail.gmail.com> References: <74d2fbe11002281711i6afb0ebdwb58fd8620f6d4ca8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC86F3C28D103D-46A4-11940@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> You are still riding a BMW? ....almost sounds like a Harley ritual ;-) Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure <> From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Mar 1 01:33:33 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:33:33 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Some investigation into the effect of cell phones on your brain Message-ID: <90fe3.7fba05c1.38bc736d@aol.com> In a message dated 2/28/2010 9:44:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net writes: One should not do business on the phone while driving, it leads to bad decisions, pull over and you should be OK. =========================================== I didn't realize it until you suggested that, but I tend to do that instinctively when I'm having a conversation on my cell phone in my truck and it seems to be taking priority over my driving. Thanks for the reinforcement. Roddy From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Mar 1 01:38:21 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:38:21 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Jazz band......you're going to love this ! Message-ID: <91395.7b2a96a9.38bc748d@aol.com> In a message dated 2/28/2010 1:10:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocZQ6ii2U5Q I sure hope you enjoyed this as much as I did. Todd Trumbore, sidecar crazy ==================================================== Todd, that was great! I'm not much into Jazz, but maybe we can get one started with some Bluegrass musicians or something. Roddy. From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Mar 1 01:50:58 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:50:58 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rode today In-Reply-To: <74d2fbe11002281711i6afb0ebdwb58fd8620f6d4ca8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B8AD732.12037.13F7F90A@localhost> > Had a nice little ride today; about 60 miles down 202 and Route 1. > Not very challenging but just getting on the bike was a good thing. > Stopped for a dog at Jimmy Johns - http://www.jimmyjohns1940.com/ > Not too impressed with their dogs, to mild for me but I did enjoy the > history and nostalgic quality of the place. > I got in 21 miles on 2 wheels today. Pedaling that is. It was a bit snowy at times. At one point I was in a serious snow squall. Kinda fun. The pot holes are just starting to bloom :-( > Back home, washed and dried the bike then put her to bed. Warm weather > riding is right around the corner. > Amen to that brother. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Mar 1 01:55:07 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:55:07 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Don't NEED a kitchen remodel this way. In-Reply-To: <74d2fbe11002281650o76d3212ci46edb4af32eaa69c@mail.gmail.com> References: Message-ID: <4B8AD82B.29175.13FBC357@localhost> > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > > British PSA on kitchen grease fires. > > > > Don't throw water on a grease fire: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZGzbd0IvUE > > > Surprised they suggest to throw a damp cloth over the pot .I always > heard you should put a lid on it. Seems like you run more risk if you > miss and a corner of the damp rag falls into the burning oil; you > would have a hell of a wick. > The damp rag won't wick the oil as the water is filling all the pores in the cloth. This is why a kerosene heater with water in the fuel won't run. The lid would work well too, but you can't throw it on. Even if you miss a bit you may put the fire out, or at least slow it down enough to get another towel. Cook Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 03:04:53 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:04:53 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Undercover Boss at White Castle Message-ID: I stumbled over the show. Then I went hunting for more info on it. There are some Youtube teasers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kHhMpCtw08 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BAqimE2Dxg Blurb about it: http://realitytv.about.com/b/2010/02/28/white-castles-owner-dave-rife-is-this-weeks-undercover-boss.htm It appears the full episode will show up here early enough that we can preview it before "a riding we will go" with Jack. http://www.cbs.com/primetime/undercover_boss/video/?pid=wOU_YmOlYPb9jW__MivA__hXljQrxtJO&vs=Default&play=true There might be a feed here too: http://live-streaming-games.com/uncategorized/watch-undercover-boss-season-1-episode-4-online-undercover-boss-white-castle/ Some local newspaper coverage: http://www.middletownjournal.com/news/middletown-news/undercover-boss-works-at-hamilton-white-castle-566942.html Yes, I told Jack about this. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motorrader at verizon.net Mon Mar 1 03:06:48 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:06:48 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Jazz band......you're going to love this ! References: <91395.7b2a96a9.38bc748d@aol.com> Message-ID: <9486B86367574DD48BBBC808539CACDF@dellfe483b726d> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocZQ6ii2U5Q I sure hope you enjoyed this as much as I did. > Todd Trumbore, sidecar crazy ==================================================== > Todd, that was great! I'm not much into Jazz, but maybe we can get one > started with some Bluegrass musicians or something. Roddy. Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band. OK, that will work for me too. I'll play the kazoo or whatever that thing is. So this is the line up to date: Roddy Irwin......................Martin Guitar D28 Bill Zane............................Fiddle Jeff Moran.........................Bass Guitar Rick Kramer......................Saxophone Joe Dille.............................Banjo Ron Rohner.......................Harmonica Gordon Alderfer.................Mandolin Stan & Shirley Myers..........Vocals Todd Trumbore..................Kazoo Meadow,Larry,Bo Daddy....Background vocals Tickets will be going on sale soon for an upcoming event in your neighborhood, so please don't delay. Todd "sidecar crazy" Trumbore From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 03:49:30 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:49:30 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Daytona Day 2 Message-ID: <4a4431121002281949r2ba268c8x9be33b28c97ca2e8@mail.gmail.com> Ate breakfast at IHOP. Noticed that Tom's brake light wasn't working. There was a stuck Dzus fastener that wouldn't let us get to the wireing. Tom figured it out and with three of us pulling on it, it let go we were on the road again. Parked in the BMW Dealer display area behind the dealership. The ECOs looked like part of the show, so we got parking spot. Walked the displays and shows. There is some interesting new stuff. Talked to Cody from OCC. He said we could park the ECOs in his display area. Probably do that tomorrow. Took a ride through Tomoka Park, Then back to Tuscawilla (near the Speedway) for disc golf. Tee shirt weather today. Sunset at Ponce Inlet (Lighthouse Restaurant). Tom and Kathy rode the ECO down Main Street (at night) with alien masks on (and blue lights bliking from wheel wells). Lot of pics were taken (but not by us). ECO Dan Daytona From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Mar 1 04:14:21 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:14:21 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Snowmen Message-ID: <4B8AF8CD.18497.147B3C48@localhost> Perhaps it was a mistake to buy them the Calvin and Hobbes book? http://home.jtan.com/~joe/snowmen.htm Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Mar 1 04:18:22 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:18:22 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Daytona Day 2 In-Reply-To: <4a4431121002281949r2ba268c8x9be33b28c97ca2e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B8AF9BE.27351.147EEAE3@localhost> > Ate breakfast at IHOP. Noticed that Tom's brake light wasn't working. > There was a stuck Dzus fastener that wouldn't let us get to the > wireing. Tom figured it out and with three of us pulling on it, it let > go we were on the road again. > > Parked in the BMW Dealer display area behind the dealership. The ECOs > looked like part of the show, so we got parking spot. Walked the > displays and shows. There is some interesting new stuff. > > Talked to Cody from OCC. He said we could park the ECOs in his > display area. Probably do that tomorrow. > > Took a ride through Tomoka Park, Then back to Tuscawilla (near the > Speedway) for disc golf. Tee shirt weather today. > > Sunset at Ponce Inlet (Lighthouse Restaurant). > > Tom and Kathy rode the ECO down Main Street (at night) with alien > masks on (and blue lights bliking from wheel wells). Lot of pics were > taken (but not by us). > > Sounds like a great time. Keep the reports coming. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From tpcutter at aol.com Mon Mar 1 04:52:00 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:52:00 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Undercover Boss at White Castle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC871210449D89-10C8-1DF36@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> The episode at Waste Management that aired after the Super Bowl was pretty good. The WM CEO got "let go" by a field supervisor because he couldn't pick up windblown paper and plastic bags off the side of a landfill fast enough. He also gave a huge raise and promotion to a woman who worked her ass off all day doing three or four jobs, then she spontaneously invited him to her home for dinner. OK, I understand it is TV and they rig stuff to look how they want. But it sure beats one more maggot-swallowing scene disguised as television entertainment. OTOH, after the Olympic closing ceremony tonight, they aired the "Marriage Judge" which was three light year pas ignorant strained and horrible. The NBC presentation of the Olympic games was excellent. The Canadians out did themselves as hosts, once again. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From tpcutter at aol.com Mon Mar 1 04:58:25 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:58:25 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Daytona Day 2 In-Reply-To: <4a4431121002281949r2ba268c8x9be33b28c97ca2e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121002281949r2ba268c8x9be33b28c97ca2e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC8712F57EC682-10C8-1E008@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> <> Nice, huh? What did you order? I miss that place. Back in the day, all the racers would hire a shuttle bus from the airport and go down there. The tourists didn't know about it, so you could hang with other teams, industry bigshots, (I met Irmajiri, the head of the Honda R&D team that developed the CBX there, sat beside him at diner.) Took my son there in June 2005 when we did a red-eye non-stop trip to Miami for a consulting job,. We stopped for KEnnedy Space Center, Lighthouse Restaurant and the V-twin strip on Main Street in Daytona, then hightailed it home. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com -----Original Message----- From: Dan Whitfield To: Mac-Pac Sent: Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:49 pm Subject: [MAC-PAC] Daytona Day 2 Ate breakfast at IHOP. Noticed that Tom's brake light wasn't working.There was a stuck Dzus fastener that wouldn't let us get to thewireing. Tom figured it out and with three of us pulling on it, it letgo we were on the road again.Parked in the BMW Dealer display area behind the dealership. The ECOslooked like part of the show, so we got parking spot. Walked thedisplays and shows. There is some interesting new stuff.Talked to Cody from OCC. He said we could park the ECOs in hisdisplay area. Probably do that tomorrow.Took a ride through Tomoka Park, Then back to Tuscawilla (near theSpeedway) for disc golf. Tee shirt weather today.Sunset at Ponce Inlet (Lighthouse Restaurant).Tom and Kathy rode the ECO down Main Street (at night) with alienmasks on (and blue lights bliking from wheel wells). Lot of pics weretaken (but not by us).ECO DanDaytona_______________________________________________Mac-pac-l mailing listMac-pac-l at jtan.comhttp://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 05:11:47 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 00:11:47 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Daytona Day 2 In-Reply-To: <4a4431121002281949r2ba268c8x9be33b28c97ca2e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121002281949r2ba268c8x9be33b28c97ca2e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Dan Whitfield wrote: > Ate breakfast at IHOP. Noticed that Tom's brake light wasn't working. > There was a stuck Dzus fastener that wouldn't let us get to the > wireing. Tom figured it out and with three of us pulling on it, it let > go we were on the road again. > > Parked in the BMW Dealer display area behind the dealership. The ECOs > looked like part of the show, so we got parking spot. Walked the > displays and shows. There is some interesting new stuff. > > Talked to Cody from OCC. ?He said we could park the ECOs in his > display area. Probably do that tomorrow. > > Took a ride through Tomoka Park, Then back to Tuscawilla (near the > Speedway) for disc golf. ?Tee shirt weather today. > > Sunset at Ponce Inlet (Lighthouse Restaurant). > > Tom and Kathy rode the ECO down Main Street (at night) with alien > masks on (and blue lights bliking from wheel wells). Lot of pics were > taken (but not by us). > I think Daytona visitors will remember the Ecos they saw there more than the 100,000 Harleys. Is there a lunch planned for Friday at Ponce Inlet? There is a small chance I can make it, still deciding about family obligations in NY for the weekend. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 03:39:24 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:39:24 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC New helmet technology Super Skin In-Reply-To: <3f2b32881002281409r793f2295yf2bebeea6ec5e8ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <3f2b32881002281409r793f2295yf2bebeea6ec5e8ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: My riding buddy,Riepe ,has a new market for the technology -- the guys with the big bikes. On 2/28/10, Roberts LeBoutillier wrote: > Simply put, the Super Skin is a flexible membrane wrapped over a gel > barrier that allows it to stretch up to eight times its normal length. > > http://riderinfo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8984 > > -- > Bobby LeBoutillier > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Sent from my mobile device BMW-Dick Bipartisanship is when both parties work together to destroy the country. From rdlebout at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 10:38:27 2010 From: rdlebout at gmail.com (Roberts LeBoutillier) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 05:38:27 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Vote for this QMA car In-Reply-To: <45921.12.181.211.35.1267197613.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <45921.12.181.211.35.1267197613.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <3f2b32881003010238y4e511440y45a6c504685115b9@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Joe Dille wrote: > Guys, > > I would like a little favor. ?Toyota is having a design a car graphics > contest for their NASCAR team. ?One of the Quarter Midget drivers (QMA) > has entered a design. ?If he wins they will use the design in the all-star > race. > > Voting is easy, Go to: > > http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/view/88154 > > And click on the VOTE button in the lower right. ?You can vote once a day > per computer. > > Thanks for your support. > > Race Safe, > > Joe > > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > Joe doesn't want to bother you but I will. Don't forget to vote at home and at work today. Let's see what social media means today. Send this out to others and we will see what happens. -- Bobby LeBoutillier From ephoet at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 13:25:46 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:25:46 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Time to go to the Philadelphia Flower Show???? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > It is GREEN! ? It opens Sunday for a week > http://www.theflowershow.com/ShowInfo/index.html > > Some here might recognize a name in this listing of exhibitors: > http://www.theflowershow.com/Exhibits/garden.html > > I wonder if there ia a GS in the exhibit? > -------------------------------------------------------------------- No, but there are 100,000 tulips imported from Holland. Should be enough to make even the most jaded AUTBTD member wish he was there to see the action. This year's theme is "Passport to the World." http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/85752117.html It is the US premier flower show. And well worth a visit if you've never gone. Always reminds me that spring is coming, and with that, the smell of the open road. Erik H West Chester From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Mar 1 14:02:40 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:02:40 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Jazz band......you're going to love this ! Message-ID: <84c8.607879a5.38bd2300@aol.com> In a message dated 2/28/2010 10:06:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band. OK, that will work for me too. I'll play the kazoo or whatever that thing is. So this is the line up to date: Roddy Irwin......................Martin Guitar D28 Bill Zane............................Fiddle Jeff Moran.........................Bass Guitar Rick Kramer......................Saxophone Joe Dille.............................Banjo Ron Rohner.......................Harmonica Gordon Alderfer.................Mandolin Stan & Shirley Myers..........Vocals Todd Trumbore..................Kazoo Meadow,Larry,Bo Daddy....Background vocals Tickets will be going on sale soon for an upcoming event in your neighborhood, so please don't delay. Todd "sidecar crazy" Trumbore ==================================================== That Martin I have is a D35. Also have a Martin Mandolin and a "David Field" Dulcimer. Roddy. From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Mar 1 14:06:02 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:06:02 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Snowmen Message-ID: <8836.640f7ff7.38bd23ca@aol.com> In a message dated 2/28/2010 11:15:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us writes: Perhaps it was a mistake to buy them the Calvin and Hobbes book? http://home.jtan.com/~joe/snowmen.htm Ride Safe, Joe ============================================ Loved them. Great work! Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We're going to raise them and eventually offer the young hens to people who want to keep a couple chickens as pets (who pay their way, unlike, say, cats) in their back yards. Sorry, no goat poem--yet. Three folks expressed interest in a BBQ this fall. Eepy-cheepy goes the chick Lots to choose from, here's my pick Cocks his shining eye at me --and leaves a puddle on my knee. Hmm. That's so good, maybe I'll put it up on facebook... Best wishes, Rogers George Newark, DE http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http://serenitytravelnewark.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 16:02:39 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:02:39 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Light Camera's, Jack Weiss to the White Telephone please... Message-ID: Found some DATA, that is not supporting your "It is obvious that Red Light Cameras will and have reduced crashes on the Roosevelt Boulevard." conclusion. Done by a newspaper. Using contemporaneous DATA, obtained from the Philadelphia Police. http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news-and-opinion/red-light_district-38401769.html (WS) We can see that this has had a lot of impact on the political "leaders". This is not local, but it turns out it was done by a Public institution of higher learning: http://hscweb3.hsc.usf.edu/health/now/?p=404 (WS) The ACTUAL paper: http://www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/docs/2008/fl-orban.pdf (WS) "Intuitively, cameras appear to be a good idea. However, comprehensive studies conclude cameras actually increase crashes and injuries, providing a safety argument not to install them." It is interesting, in that it also investigated how other papers reached "conclusions" that RLCs were "good". Picking and choosing the data you want sure can help you reach the conclusion you want. If such keeps up "science" is going to get a BAD NAME. Sometimes what is "intuitively obvious" is not true. Not that anything that would reduce REVENUES will stop politicians in their constant push to provide "more stuff" "provided by others" to their constituents. I started down the thread by this article: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/columnists/fl-red-lights-mayocol-b022710-20100227,0,5551944.column (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Mon Mar 1 16:13:51 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Snowmen In-Reply-To: <28273583.1267454949551.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1344167711.9972981267460031547.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >Perhaps it was a mistake to buy them the Calvin and Hobbes book? > >http://home.jtan.com/~joe/snowmen.htm Nothing wrong with sharing the classics. Calvin and Hobbes, Bloom's County and The Far Side are all especially missed whenever I open the newspaper comics section. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Mon Mar 1 16:27:05 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Light Camera's, Jack Weiss to the White Telephone please... In-Reply-To: <1818732028.9980911267460775511.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <28743412.9981371267460825476.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >Found some DATA, that is not supporting your "It is obvious that Red >Light Cameras will and have reduced crashes on the Roosevelt >Boulevard." conclusion. > >Done by a newspaper. Using contemporaneous DATA, obtained from the >Philadelphia Police. >http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news-and-opinion/red-light_district-38401769.html >(WS) When I moved to the DC area in 1998 running red lights was common, and expected. To the point of waiting for a three to five count before going at a green light. Cameras started popping up there in 2002-2003 and guess what? People stopped running red lights. I should say that in VA the also installed a bunch of boxes for cameras that were armed sometimes, and sometimes not armed. You could go when the light turned green again. Amazing. Intersections breed accidents for any number of reasons. Where all of the drivers involved in these accidents polled to see what the cause was? Using the police reports is useless because people lie to the police about the causes. Could the data be skewed by a change in demographics in those area? More/less cars on that road at a time? DATA does not always tell the story, and can be manipulated. I know its popular to rail against cameras and if you feel strongly, go ahead, but I still do not have an issue with red-light cameras. And no Chris not "for the Children!" John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From chrisjac at ptd.net Mon Mar 1 16:46:06 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:46:06 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Light Camera's, Jack Weiss to the White Telephone please... In-Reply-To: <28743412.9981371267460825476.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <28743412.9981371267460825476.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B8BEF4E.5050000@ptd.net> johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > DATA does not always tell the story, and can be manipulated. I know its popular to rail against cameras and if you feel strongly, go ahead, but I still do not have an issue with red-light cameras. What about seat belt laws, bicycle helmet laws? j/k John, I have noticed that you rarely, if ever, have any problems with govt passed laws? Does anything the govt do actually annoy you? Please tell. > And no Chris not "for the Children!" > > It certainly is.....it's a source of revenue so your children's taxes arent as high when they actually pay taxes. Remember, todays spending will be paid off by tomorrow's youth. Chris Jaccarino From motoedde2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 16:51:32 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:51:32 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Light Camera's, Jack Weiss to the White Telephone please... In-Reply-To: <4B8BEF4E.5050000@ptd.net> References: <28743412.9981371267460825476.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4B8BEF4E.5050000@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris wrote: > johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: >> DATA does not always tell the story, and can be manipulated. I know its popular to rail against cameras and if you feel strongly, go ahead, but I still do not have an issue with red-light cameras. > > What about seat belt laws, bicycle helmet laws? ?j/k ? ? ?John, I have > noticed that you rarely, if ever, have any problems with govt passed > laws? ?Does anything the govt do actually annoy you? ?Please tell. > >> And no Chris not "for the Children!" >> >> > > It certainly is.....it's a source of revenue so your children's taxes > arent as high when they actually pay taxes. ?Remember, todays spending > will be paid off by tomorrow's youth. Isn't this essentially/eventually taxation without representation for the kids? Shouldn't their interests be legitimized/expressed, similar to how corporate interests via campaign donations? -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From motorrader at verizon.net Mon Mar 1 17:16:00 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:16:00 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] The Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band References: <54D96D61B1D14237B0437A5509B30C23@dellfe483b726d> <43840a7e1002281150r1bc83a05p8e968d42326c8e7b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jim, We decided we needed an east coast version of the Sidecar Jazz Band, from Hollywood, CA. A few of us got together to form The Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band, based in Southeast Pennsylvania. We all live in the vicinity of the Philadelphia Folk Festival, so how appropriate. This is the line up: Rolly Brown..........................................Dulcimer, Mandolin, Guitar Roddy Irwin......................................... Guitar, Dulcimer, Mandolin, sidecar William Zane........................................Fiddle, sidecar Jeff Moran............................................Bass Guitar Rick Kramer........................................Saxophone, sidecar Joe Dille...............................................Banjo, sidecar Ron Rohner..........................................Harmonica, sidecar Dean Danley........................................Ukulele, sidecar Gordon Alderfer...................................Auto Harp,former sidecarist Stan & Shirley Myers...........................Vocals, sidecar Todd Trumbore.....................................Wazoo Kazoo, sidecar Meadow,Chopper & Bo Daddy..........Background howls Now, if you take note, our band does include eight sidecars and a Banjo player ! Todd "sidecar crazy" Trumbore __,_._,___ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We are planning another significant event tomorrow Wednesday, February 24th after which we will be launching our web site www.bloomenergy.com. We will be having a live twitter feed during the event. Please follow us on twitter at #bloomenergy. Bloom is committed to working with its customers to fundamentally change the way the world gets its energy. We thank you for your interest thus far and look forward to partnering with you to execute on our vision of providing clean and affordable energy?everywhere. As always I am here to help. Please let me know how I can best assist. Best regards, Mike Whittier 1252 Orleans Drive Sunnyvale, CA 94089 408-543-1634 mwhittier at bloomenergy.com Additional 60 Minutes Clips Main Clip: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6228923n&tag=contentMain;contentBody Naming of Bloom Energy: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6228836n&tag=contentBody;housing Installing a Fuel Cell: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6228834n&tag=contentBody;housing The Bloom Magic Box: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6228828n&tag=cbsnewsSidebarArea.0 From motoedde2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 17:42:08 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:42:08 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bloomin' Boxes (OT, Alternate power fuel cell) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Erik Hoet wrote: > Thoughts??? ? From an internal email. ? Don't know what the > efficiencies, are but its worth your time to view. > > EPH Its based on this...very interesting... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_oxide_fuel_cell Does this mean that distributed power generation systems are the future OR why can't this technology scale up and use the existing distribution system by replacing a legacy generator? -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From wateredg at interlog.com Mon Mar 1 17:48:38 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:48:38 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bloomin' Boxes (OT, Alternate power fuel cell) References: Message-ID: <3410C0E9BED0401B9183BCDE342D7FB9@9200c> Hello Erik, From: "Erik Hoet" > Thoughts??? From an internal email. Don't know what the > efficiencies, are but its worth your time to view. >From another source ("What's New", by Robert L. Park)... "ENERGY: THE BLOOM BOX DEFLOWERED. The Hubbert Peak, IPCC reports, melting ice caps, does all this foretell a disaster? Maybe for polar bears, but for alternative energy pitchmen it's the mother lode. The free-energy scams such as Joe Newman's Energy Machine and Dennis Lee?s Hummingbird motor will still find mom-and-pop investors hoping to stretch their meager retirements, but the big money awaits a more sophisticated pitch. Consider the Bloom Box. The pitchman, K.R. Sridhar, CEO of Bloom Energy in Sunnyvale, is not your typical scam artist, but an artfully understated business executive. He can go on 60 Minutes or Good Morning America and never make a slip. But there are warning signs. What is it he?s selling? "It starts with beach sand? he says, opening a box of the stuff. It's like saying a diamond is a lump of carbon. Silicon dioxide is the most abundant mineral on Earth, and essential to modern electronics. With the help of animation, he explains that plates made of the stuff enable hydrocarbon gases to react with oxygen, producing an electric potential. It's a fuel cell. He never says so, maintaining the fiction that this is something really new. It?s not. Fuel cells date back to 1838, but have found little application. The magic calls for painting the two sides of the plate with secret green and black ink respectively. Well there's a little more to it, but CEOs don't worry about details. Oh, and the Bloom Box is not cheap. However, Google, FedEx and Wal-Mart can afford to test the Bloom Box. Everybody loves the idea of distributed energy production, where we have our own power plant in the backyard. But a Bloom Box is not totally isolated; it needs to be tied to a gas pipeline. Is this the future? Probably not." I speculate it will join the big shelf where all the other "perpetual motion" machines reside. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From motoedde2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 17:50:30 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:50:30 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bloomin' Boxes (OT, Alternate power fuel cell) In-Reply-To: <3410C0E9BED0401B9183BCDE342D7FB9@9200c> References: <3410C0E9BED0401B9183BCDE342D7FB9@9200c> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Steve Makohin wrote: > I speculate it will join the big shelf where all the other "perpetual > motion" machines reside. You're not the only one echoing that sentiment... http://industry.bnet.com/auto/10003847/the-bloom-box-maybe-a-fuel-cell-breakthrough-but-others-were-first/ -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 18:06:42 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:06:42 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Light Camera's, Jack Weiss to the White Telephone please... In-Reply-To: <28743412.9981371267460825476.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1818732028.9980911267460775511.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <28743412.9981371267460825476.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On 3/1/10, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) > DATA does not always tell the story, and can be manipulated. I know its popular to rail against cameras and if you feel strongly, go ahead, but I still do not have an issue with red-light cameras. And no Chris not "for the Children!" ============= John, it might behoove you to READ the article. Particularly being a teacher and all. One of the points of the article is that those in Favor or RLCs DO MANIPULATE THE DATA. You report your "anecdotal" "evidence" from Virginia. It appears that others in VA could find not real benefit on a "crash" basis. Quoting from the PUBLISHED PDF: The Virginia Transportation Research Council (Garber, Miller, Abel, Eslambolchi & Korukonda, 2007) analyzed camera programs in five jurisdictions using seven years of data. The study concluded their findings ?cannot be used to justify the widespread installation of cameras because they are not universally effective.? They used a comprehensive statistical method of analysis (i.e., Empirical Bayes) that found cameras were associated with: ? A significant increase (29%) in total crashes; ? A significant increase (20%) in angle crashes; ? A significant increase (42%) in rear-end crashes, which did not decrease over time; ? A significant increase in injury crashes (18%), with the impact on injury severity reported as ?too close to call?; ? Increases in crash costs. If you want to check if I am misquoting the paper, here is the URL again: http://www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/docs/2008/fl-orban.pdf (WS) >From a personal anecdotal perspective, rear end collisions are NOT a good thing. Erik might be able to report on the affect of them on someone he knew WELL at the time. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 18:29:37 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:29:37 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bloomin' Boxes (OT, Alternate power fuel cell) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/1/10, edde m wrote: > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Erik Hoet wrote: > > Thoughts??? From an internal email. Don't know what the > > efficiencies, are but its worth your time to view. > > > > EPH > > > Its based on this...very interesting... > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_oxide_fuel_cell > > Does this mean that distributed power generation systems are the > future OR why can't this technology scale up and use the existing > distribution system by replacing a legacy generator? Fuel Cells have been the "next big thing" for years now. I built a fuel cell when I was in 7th grade. That was a long time ago.... VERY LONG TIME AGO. He claims he has built a "better one". The problem is fuel. Hydrogen mines have not been found yet. He says he is using natural gas. So, you are trading electric distribution lines for natural gas lines everywhere. I would love to have natural gas to my house. I grew up using natural gas. It is "real fire" for cooking. However, it is "too expensive" to run to my house.... One might also remember the transition from gas lights for lighting to electric. FAR fewer chances of burning the place down with electricity. The downsides of improper use of natural gas was demonstrated up in Connecticut a few weeks back. :(:( And using natural gas, what does happen to the "C"s in the natural gas after the "H"s are used for electricity generation. There are tradeoff's on every "new thing". Plus the damn costs. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motoedde2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 18:42:21 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:42:21 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bloomin' Boxes (OT, Alternate power fuel cell) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > Fuel Cells have been the "next big thing" for years now. ?I built a > fuel cell when I was in 7th grade. ?That was a long time ago.... ?VERY > LONG TIME AGO. > > He claims he has built a "better one". I think Panasonic might have built a better one...and cheaper... http://panasonic.co.jp/corp/news/official.data/data.dir/en080414-2/en080414-2.html What will happen to solar panel installers? -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From wateredg at interlog.com Mon Mar 1 18:59:57 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:59:57 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bloomin' Boxes (OT, Alternate power fuel cell) References: Message-ID: <30C0C10987494DBAA1A6C4038B20F97C@9200c> Hello Brian, From: "Brian Curry" > On 3/1/10, edde m wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Erik Hoet wrote: >> > Thoughts??? From an internal email. Don't know what the >> > efficiencies, are but its worth your time to view. >> > >> > EPH >> >> >> Its based on this...very interesting... >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_oxide_fuel_cell >> >> Does this mean that distributed power generation systems are the >> future OR why can't this technology scale up and use the existing >> distribution system by replacing a legacy generator? > > Fuel Cells have been the "next big thing" for years now. I built a > fuel cell when I was in 7th grade. That was a long time ago.... VERY > LONG TIME AGO. > > He claims he has built a "better one". > > The problem is fuel. Hydrogen mines have not been found yet. He says > he is using natural gas. So, you are trading electric distribution > lines for natural gas lines everywhere. I would love to have natural > gas to my house. I grew up using natural gas. It is "real fire" for > cooking. > > However, it is "too expensive" to run to my house.... > > One might also remember the transition from gas lights for lighting to > electric. FAR fewer chances of burning the place down with > electricity. The downsides of improper use of natural gas was > demonstrated up in Connecticut a few weeks back. :(:( > > And using natural gas, what does happen to the "C"s in the natural gas > after the "H"s are used for electricity generation. > > There are tradeoff's on every "new thing". Plus the damn costs. Bloom has raised over $400M in investor capital so far. That's quite a sum! Paint me cynical, but I predict that when Bloom closes its doors, the only people who will have done well, will be Bloom's executives and a few cronies in the upper levels of the ivory tower. Human history is littered with such dream companies who just couldn't deliver. Usually, it's engineers who are the first to smell something foul when laws of thermodynamics, or conservation of energy, or physics, need to be circumvented to achieve product viability. Best wishes to Bloom! Wake me up when they have a proven technology that actually lets the consumer come out ahead of where we are today. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 19:08:03 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:08:03 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bloomin' Boxes (OT, Alternate power fuel cell) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/1/10, edde m wrote: > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > > > > Fuel Cells have been the "next big thing" for years now. I built a > > fuel cell when I was in 7th grade. That was a long time ago.... VERY > > LONG TIME AGO. > > > > He claims he has built a "better one". > > > > I think Panasonic might have built a better one...and cheaper... > > http://panasonic.co.jp/corp/news/official.data/data.dir/en080414-2/en080414-2.html Maybe. If you have a 100A panel you are rated to be sucking 12,000W. The unit makes only 1000W. 200A panels are not that unusual. Some of that might be due to HVAC loads, but it sounds small. 10 years is a "short" life if it only lasts that long. And I still need natural gas.... Be interesting to see how it works out in a market niche. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 19:45:54 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:45:54 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Its not just REAL radios that glow in the dark Message-ID: REAL SuperComputers do too!! http://www.ominous-valve.com/vtsc.html (WS) Might check other stuff at http://www.ominous-valve.com/ too. Appears WS. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Mar 1 20:30:27 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:30:27 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bloomin' Boxes (OT, Alternate power fuel cell) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40886.12.181.211.35.1267475427.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > >> Fuel Cells have been the "next big thing" for years now. ?I built a >> fuel cell when I was in 7th grade. ?That was a long time ago.... ?VERY >> LONG TIME AGO. >> >> He claims he has built a "better one". > > > I think Panasonic might have built a better one...and cheaper... > > http://panasonic.co.jp/corp/news/official.data/data.dir/en080414-2/en080414-2.html > Interesting. This is the first time I have heard about fuel cells for cogeneration. Cogeneration can have two meanings, generating electricity for you and the utility, or generating electricity and heat. In this case I mean heat and electricity. This may make a real improvement in the installed efficiency. Think like this, generate 2/3 of your electricity and free hot water. > What will happen to solar panel installers? > They will still have to be careful working on the roof. Ride Safe, Joe From ephoet at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 21:12:06 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:12:06 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] glasses Message-ID: If Joe PA can can $9K for his glasses, just think of the possibilities...... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/02/22/sports/main6230172.shtml EPH Just thinking out loud. From ephoet at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 21:24:14 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:24:14 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Light Camera's, Jack Weiss to the White Telephone please... In-Reply-To: References: <1818732028.9980911267460775511.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <28743412.9981371267460825476.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > >From a personal anecdotal perspective, rear end collisions are NOT a > good thing. ?Erik might be able to report on the affect of them on > someone he knew WELL at the time. > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah, you can always try out some nice Synthes anterior cervical hardware. Supplied in a tackle box. Just the trick for whiplash injuries. http://us.synthes.com/Products/Spine/Cervical/The+Cervical+Spine+Locking+Plate+%28CSLP%29.htm And you'd be supporting a local company too, right near the Helicopter Museum in West Chester. http://us.synthes.com/Locations/Headquarters Though you'll look like sh*t right after surgery...... EPH Yes, my ex had this done...... I recommend avoiding their hardware. Too late for me, I already have a plate on the fibula...... http://us.synthes.com/Products/Trauma/Plate+and+Screw+Systems/2.7+mm-3.5+mm+LCP+Lateral+Distal+Fibula+Plate.htm From motorrader at verizon.net Mon Mar 1 22:07:11 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:07:11 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fw: [slash2] The Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band Message-ID: Todd, if you make a video, I WILL post it on the Vintage club's website! (I've already snagged Sidecar Jazz and also a garage band!) --Darryl Richman http://darryl.crafty-fox.com OK fellows, obviously Darry Richman doesn't know how much of a troublemaker I am so,............lets start practicing those instruments. Roddy said he is having a jam session over on the farm as soon as the weather breaks, that should be sometime in June or July. This Kazoo has been taking up most of my free time. Meadow, Chopper & Bo Daddy are waiting for a full moon. Maybe with Rolly and Roddy's help we can come up with something worthy of a video. We only need to produce one catchy tune for the video. If there are others out there that actuallly play an instrument you are encouraged to participate. We can't have The Sidecar Jazz Band from Hollywood steal all the limelight. We have the sidecars, we need players. Man, you guys really got me into a fine mess this time ! Todd "sidecar crazy" Trumbore Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band | Jim, | We decided we needed an east coast version of the Sidecar Jazz Band, from | Hollywood, CA. A few of us got together to form The Sidecar Folk & | Bluegrass Band, based in Southeast Pennsylvania. We all live in the | vicinity of the Philadelphia Folk Festival, so how appropriate. This is the | line up: | | Rolly Brown..........................................Dulcimer, Mandolin, | Guitar | Roddy Irwin......................................... Guitar, Dulcimer, | Mandolin, sidecar | William Zane........................................Fiddle, sidecar | Jeff Moran............................................Bass Guitar | Rick Kramer........................................Saxophone, sidecar | Joe Dille...............................................Banjo, sidecar | Ron Rohner..........................................Harmonica, sidecar | Dean Danley........................................Ukulele, sidecar | Gordon Alderfer...................................Auto Harp,former | sidecarist | Stan & Shirley Myers...........................Vocals, sidecar | Todd Trumbore.....................................Wazoo Kazoo, sidecar | Meadow,Chopper & Bo Daddy..........Background howls | | Now, if you take note, our band does include eight sidecars and a Banjo | player ! | | Todd "sidecar crazy" Trumbore | | | | | | | [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] | | | | ------------------------------------ | | Yahoo! 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URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100301/d718503e/attachment.html From motorrader at verizon.net Mon Mar 1 22:11:46 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:11:46 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [slash2] The Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band References: <54D96D61B1D14237B0437A5509B30C23@dellfe483b726d> <43840a7e1002281150r1bc83a05p8e968d42326c8e7b@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e1003011143q634454c1wab3d76399194cbd6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <996CD725A06248E1A822AB6A190C1AAA@dellfe483b726d> Jim, We are working on it. Oh, by the way, with a man of your talents, we are signing you up for the band. We'll be sure to find a sidecar for you. Todd So are we going to get to hear this band at Vech's in April?? I'll sit in (in a sidecar?).... I play bass, washboard, washtub bass, guitar, banjo, fiddle, mandolin, Dobro, autoharp and a mean 2 gallon jug! ;-) Cheers!! Jimindodgecity On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > > > Jim, > We decided we needed an east coast version of the Sidecar Jazz Band, from > Hollywood, CA. A few of us got together to form The Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass > Band, based in Southeast Pennsylvania. We all live in the vicinity of the > Philadelphia Folk Festival, so how appropriate. This is the line up: > > Rolly Brown..........................................Dulcimer, Mandolin, > Guitar > Roddy Irwin......................................... Guitar, Dulcimer, > Mandolin, sidecar > William Zane........................................Fiddle, sidecar > Jeff Moran............................................Bass Guitar > Rick Kramer........................................Saxophone, sidecar > Joe Dille...............................................Banjo, sidecar > Ron Rohner..........................................Harmonica, sidecar > Dean Danley........................................Ukulele, sidecar > Gordon Alderfer...................................Auto Harp,former > sidecarist > Stan & Shirley Myers...........................Vocals, sidecar > Todd Trumbore.....................................Wazoo Kazoo, sidecar > Meadow,Chopper & Bo Daddy..........Background howls > > Now, if you take note, our band does include eight sidecars and a Banjo > player ! > > Todd "sidecar crazy" Trumbore > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (4) Recent Activity: a.. New Members 3 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest . Unsubscribe . Terms of Use. __,_._,___ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100301/179f6a84/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 22:51:43 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:51:43 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The "choking game" Message-ID: This is a NOT GOOD "Friend of a Friend" story. A friend's friend lost a nephew due to the "choking game". Oh, and one moniker for it is "Funky Chicken" which I don't think is related at all to Rubber Chickens at the Racing Garage. Full details here: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/25/health/25chen.html (WS) I think "similar" stuff has come up in adults here. Some actor over in SE Asia? In this case(s) it is children who one can't necessarily say "They should have known better." Plus there are destructions on "how to do it" on Youtube to make it "easier". :(:( Watch for the signs. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From tpcutter at aol.com Mon Mar 1 22:53:48 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:53:48 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] glasses In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC87A930A8B919-55D4-3E5E@webmail-m075.sysops.aol.com> <> We should have an auction at the next WEGE, for the chance to wear Curry's famous Marine-Tex specs. The $1.34 we make could be donated to a very small charity. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From motorrader at verizon.net Mon Mar 1 22:42:24 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:42:24 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band Message-ID: <938773F60A88472B85C9E659C2E51F4C@dellfe483b726d> So are we going to get to hear this band at Vech's in April?? I'll sit in (in a sidecar?).... I play bass, washboard, washtub bass, guitar, banjo, fiddle, mandolin, Dobro, autoharp and a mean 2 gallon jug! ;-) Cheers!! Jimindodgecity Now this is kind of talent we are recruiting ! Don't be shy guys. Surely there must be someone out there that can at least play a 2 gallon jug................I said play not consume ! The Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band From Ducdude at verizon.net Mon Mar 1 23:16:38 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:16:38 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Light Camera's, Jack Weiss to the White Telephone please... References: <1818732028.9980911267460775511.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <28743412.9981371267460825476.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <80FE37DED5A24C0E879129107ECCE844@heilveil5e3fdd> And you'd be supporting a local company too, right near the Helicopter Museum in West Chester. http://us.synthes.com/Locations/Headquarters Though you'll look like sh*t right after surgery...... EPH Yes, my ex had this done...... I recommend avoiding their hardware. ------------------------------------------------------------------ As well as avoiding his ex..!! Hmmm did I post that out loud??? Duc (and cover) dude From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 23:23:03 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:23:03 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now this is a heck of a "boat" Message-ID: A boat that really "flys". I like a "Jesus Pin". I wonder how much checking of that he does? http://www.reuters.com/news/video/story?videoId=50314508&videoChannel=2602 (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From kaldewaay at live.com Mon Mar 1 23:43:08 2010 From: kaldewaay at live.com (Alain Kaldewaay) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:43:08 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Labrador ride "walk" about In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Corey, Sorry to hear you can not make it, but I'm sure you will have a good time. I just put this out to the members because before you know it, it will be summer time. Yes my thoughts were to use this as the "Jim" reschedule time. Let me know folks. DAK > Sorry Alain, I won't be able to make it. We have friends spending the > night on Saturday so that we can attend the symphony. There will > probably be a late rise followed by a late breakfast on Sunday. I > still don't know if this is the rescheduled time for Jim's original > meeting or not? > > Corey _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ From motoedde2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 23:02:16 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:02:16 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] glasses In-Reply-To: <8CC87A930A8B919-55D4-3E5E@webmail-m075.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC87A930A8B919-55D4-3E5E@webmail-m075.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Tom Cutter wrote: > > < possibilities......http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/02/22/sports/main6 > 230172.shtml>> > > We should have an auction at the next WEGE, for the chance to wear > Curry's famous Marine-Tex specs. The $1.34 we make could be donated to > a very small charity. I think the bidding should be done in crush washers or epoxy... -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From crocov502 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 2 01:01:53 2010 From: crocov502 at yahoo.com (Arla Hile) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:01:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The "choking game" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <506008.6685.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- From: Brian Curry Full details here: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/25/health/25chen.html (WS) ********************************************************* If you don't read the whole article, please note that more than 5% of teens may be trying this. :( Arla From Braveirwin at aol.com Tue Mar 2 01:15:51 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:15:51 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fw: [slash2] The Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band Message-ID: <397a0.532a46a6.38bdc0c7@aol.com> In a message dated 3/1/2010 5:07:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: Todd, if you make a video, I WILL post it on the Vintage club's website! (I've already snagged Sidecar Jazz and also a garage band!) --Darryl Richman http://darryl.crafty-fox.com OK fellows, obviously Darry Richman doesn't know how much of a troublemaker I am so,............lets start practicing those instruments. Roddy said he is having a jam session over on the farm as soon as the weather breaks, that should be sometime in June or July. This Kazoo has been taking up most of my free time. Meadow, Chopper & Bo Daddy are waiting for a full moon. Maybe with Rolly and Roddy's help we can come up with something worthy of a video. We only need to produce one catchy tune for the video. If there are others out there that actuallly play an instrument you are encouraged to participate. We can't have The Sidecar Jazz Band from Hollywood steal all the limelight. We have the sidecars, we need players. Man, you guys really got me into a fine mess this time ! Todd "sidecar crazy" Trumbore Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band Okay, let's see....there's a full moon on the 26th of June....that's just 4 weeks before the Father Folk this year. Say....we practice once on the 26th of June at the Father Folk site and videotape our Premier a month later at the Father Folk. Bill Zane, Rolly Todd, and Doug know the way. I'll stack fire wood by the fire pit. Jack can make up the tee shirts. Rogers can bring the goat and chickens. Let's see... did I miss anything? Roddy. | Jim, | We decided we needed an east coast version of the Sidecar Jazz Band, from | Hollywood, CA. A few of us got together to form The Sidecar Folk & | Bluegrass Band, based in Southeast Pennsylvania. We all live in the | vicinity of the Philadelphia Folk Festival, so how appropriate. This is the | line up: | | Rolly Brown..........................................Dulcimer, Mandolin, | Guitar | Roddy Irwin......................................... Guitar, Dulcimer, | Mandolin, sidecar | William Zane........................................Fiddle, sidecar | Jeff Moran............................................Bass Guitar | Rick Kramer........................................Saxophone, sidecar | Joe Dille...............................................Banjo, sidecar | Ron Rohner..........................................Harmonica, sidecar | Dean Danley........................................Ukulele, sidecar | Gordon Alderfer...................................Auto Harp,former | sidecarist | Stan & Shirley Myers...........................Vocals, sidecar | Todd Trumbore.....................................Wazoo Kazoo, sidecar | Meadow,Chopper & Bo Daddy..........Background howls | | Now, if you take note, our band does include eight sidecars and a Banjo | player ! | | Todd "sidecar crazy" Trumbore | | | | | | | [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] | | | | ------------------------------------ | | Yahoo! Groups Links | | | | | No virus found in this incoming message. | Checked by AVG - www.avg.com | Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2707 - Release Date: 02/28/10 | 23:34:00 __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (2) Recent Activity: a.. New Members 3 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest . Unsubscribe . Terms of Use. __,_._,___ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100301/d718503e/attachment.html _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From Braveirwin at aol.com Tue Mar 2 01:19:38 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:19:38 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] [slash2] The Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band Message-ID: <39b38.36aaf802.38bdc1aa@aol.com> In a message dated 3/1/2010 5:12:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: So are we going to get to hear this band at Vech's in April?? I'll sit in (in a sidecar?).... I play bass, washboard, washtub bass, guitar, banjo, fiddle, mandolin, Dobro, autoharp and a mean 2 gallon jug! ;-) Cheers!! Jimindodgecity ====================================== Wow, sign him up for Father Folk or I'm moving to Dodge City. Roddy. Who is this guy anyway? From Braveirwin at aol.com Tue Mar 2 01:31:21 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:31:21 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The "choking game" Message-ID: <3a69e.332b0952.38bdc469@aol.com> In a message dated 3/1/2010 5:52:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bmwbrian at gmail.com writes: Watch for the signs. ============================================ I spoke to my sons; they both know the game. I said "please don't play the game, I'd cry for years". Gabe says "Dad.....I'm not retarded". I smile and whisper to myself "God, please watch over them, I've already lost my Molly Rose". Roddy. From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 01:53:08 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:53:08 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: You have to be unsilent to remain silent??? Message-ID: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_supreme_court_miranda_rights;_ylt=AktcxcBWy1CUdps2wEep8PCs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTQzYWNhdDMyBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwMzAxL3VzX3N1cHJlbWVfY291cnRfbWlyYW5kYV9yaWdodHMEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwM1BHBvcwMyBHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5faGVhZGxpbmVfbGlzdARzbGsDY291cnR3ZWlnaHNp http://tinyurl.com/yzfn9bg (Both WS) I am so confused. Shoulda been a female officer that read him the Miranda warning that anything he said would be held against him. They he coulda said 't1ts".... After reading the verbiage about the need to "invoke" your RIGHT, almost makes me wonder if it IS a Right.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From mjcantwe at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 02:48:08 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 21:48:08 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bloomin' Boxes (OT, Alternate power fuel cell) In-Reply-To: <40886.12.181.211.35.1267475427.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <40886.12.181.211.35.1267475427.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <8bafeb801003011848q2777fbabrf6bf209e690bbddb@mail.gmail.com> http://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2008/08/28/checking-up-on-thorium/ From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 03:17:26 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:17:26 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bloomin' Boxes (OT, Alternate power fuel cell) In-Reply-To: <8bafeb801003011848q2777fbabrf6bf209e690bbddb@mail.gmail.com> References: <40886.12.181.211.35.1267475427.squirrel@12.181.211.35> <8bafeb801003011848q2777fbabrf6bf209e690bbddb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/1/10, Michael Cantwell wrote: > http://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2008/08/28/checking-up-on-thorium/ Shippingsport 1 was a thorium light water breeder reactor. It was about Rickover's last big effort. It was the last core in that unit. I think this is the remains of the plant: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Shippingport,+Beaver,+Pennsylvania&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=33.626896,78.046875&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=Fcr-awId_vo0-w&split=0&hq=&hnear=Shippingport,+Beaver,+Pennsylvania&ll=40.622471,-80.422357&spn=0.003933,0.009527&t=h&z=17 It was "greenfielded" when it was shut down. Being a PWR, they only had to remove the reactor building. They cover how you wait long enough and eventually you get a lot of power out of the U-233 fissioning. At the end of the cycle for Peach Bottom and Limerick, about 60% of the power is coming from fissioning PU, plutonium. From the U-238 being bombarded and becoming Pu 239 (Good for bombs), Pu 240 and 241 not so good for bombs but can be made into them Oh, and if you use "camping lantern mantles". They glow white due to the thorium in the cloth GLOWING. They are also radioactive. I do hope you cleaned up, and decontaminated the area after you changed the mantle. The beaches in Kerala state in India have a LOT of "shine" due to lotsa thorium in the sand. So, you can get a "tan" from the sun AND the sand.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 03:41:14 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:41:14 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:I was wrong on the location of Shippingsport Atomic Power Plant Message-ID: This is the remaining buildings: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Shippingport,+Beaver,+Pennsylvania&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=33.626896,78.046875&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=Fcr-awId_vo0-w&split=0&hq=&hnear=Shippingport,+Beaver,+Pennsylvania&ll=40.621524,-80.435345&spn=0.000983,0.002382&t=h&z=19 I should have noticed the water intake or discharge structure earlier. Peach Bottom Unit 1 which was an experimental High Temperature Gas cooled Reactor is still there: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=peach+bottom+atomic+power+station,+pa&sll=40.62105,-80.435092&sspn=0.001967,0.004764&ie=UTF8&hq=Kernkraftwerk+Peach+Bottom&hnear=Peach+Bottom+Nuclear+Generating+Station&ll=39.756808,-76.267127&spn=0.001889,0.004764&t=h&z=18 -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 04:08:39 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 23:08:39 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now that's a real pisser Message-ID: http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=11&sid=291374 (WS) I suspect they will be talking about "how he went" for years. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 04:22:54 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 23:22:54 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Daytona Day 2 In-Reply-To: References: <4a4431121002281949r2ba268c8x9be33b28c97ca2e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a4431121003012022q2e41a0dfu8aa64ed4657cdbb1@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Doug Raymond wrote: > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Dan Whitfield wrote: >> Ate breakfast at IHOP. Noticed that Tom's brake light wasn't working. >> There was a stuck Dzus fastener that wouldn't let us get to the >> wireing. Tom figured it out and with three of us pulling on it, it let >> go we were on the road again. >> >> Parked in the BMW Dealer display area behind the dealership. The ECOs >> looked like part of the show, so we got parking spot. Walked the >> displays and shows. There is some interesting new stuff. >> >> Talked to Cody from OCC. ?He said we could park the ECOs in his >> display area. Probably do that tomorrow. >> >> Took a ride through Tomoka Park, Then back to Tuscawilla (near the >> Speedway) for disc golf. ?Tee shirt weather today. >> >> Sunset at Ponce Inlet (Lighthouse Restaurant). >> >> Tom and Kathy rode the ECO down Main Street (at night) with alien >> masks on (and blue lights bliking from wheel wells). Lot of pics were >> taken (but not by us). >> > > I think Daytona visitors will remember the Ecos they saw there more > than the 100,000 Harleys. > > Is there a lunch planned for Friday at Ponce Inlet? ?There is a small > chance I can make it, still deciding about family obligations in NY > for the weekend. Sounds good to me Doug. My cell is 336 991 7447. Today was so hot, I had to use the Russian Air Conditioning system on the ECO for the fist time since warm weather last. Dano From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 04:44:12 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 23:44:12 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Daytona Day 3 Message-ID: <4a4431121003012044v9a431e1mdab3f2f791e82004@mail.gmail.com> Today I went over to Cody (from OCC) and parked the ECO behind his display area under a small palm tree. Then walked away to check out the vendor wares for this year (titty beads). When I got back, Cody was ready to take a look at the ECO. Every time I would answer his question about how the ECO does what, he would say "no way man, that's sick." Finally got warm enough to actually go to the beach (for a walk). Got warm enough to need the Russian Air Coditioning (a standoff that makes the door not fully close). Bike's running better than ever (88,500 miles now) must be broken in now. ECO Dano Daytona From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 04:50:42 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 23:50:42 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Daytona Day 2 In-Reply-To: <4a4431121003012022q2e41a0dfu8aa64ed4657cdbb1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121002281949r2ba268c8x9be33b28c97ca2e8@mail.gmail.com> <4a4431121003012022q2e41a0dfu8aa64ed4657cdbb1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Dan Whitfield wrote: > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Doug Raymond > wrote: ..... >> Is there a lunch planned for Friday at Ponce Inlet? ?There is a small >> chance I can make it, still deciding about family obligations in NY >> for the weekend. > > > Sounds good to me Doug. My cell is 336 991 7447. > > Today was so hot, I had to use the Russian Air Conditioning system on > the ECO for the fist time since warm weather last. > Dan, Looks like I can't make it for the Friday lunch. In the end I had to go with family mini-reunion in NY for the weekend. Have fun, try to stay cool. Snow's starting to melt here.. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 04:56:49 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 23:56:49 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] ECOs in Ed Youngblood's www.Motohistory.net Message-ID: <4a4431121003012056o42fefb2cs922c174dcd90b173@mail.gmail.com> Ed Youngblood has done a great job of covering the history of the "Dalnik" Czech word for ECO style motorcycles. My son Skyler and I appear in one of the pics (with thumbs up) of my ECO. "www.motohistory.net" Click on "news." ECO Dano Daytona From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 05:26:01 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 00:26:01 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Daytona Day 2 In-Reply-To: References: <4a4431121002281949r2ba268c8x9be33b28c97ca2e8@mail.gmail.com> <4a4431121003012022q2e41a0dfu8aa64ed4657cdbb1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a4431121003012126r50f381a9vfcd56e7b63017265@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Doug Raymond wrote: > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Dan Whitfield wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Doug Raymond >> wrote: > ..... >>> Is there a lunch planned for Friday at Ponce Inlet? ?There is a small >>> chance I can make it, still deciding about family obligations in NY >>> for the weekend. >> >> >> Sounds good to me Doug. My cell is 336 991 7447. >> >> Today was so hot, I had to use the Russian Air Conditioning system on >> the ECO for the fist time since warm weather last. >> > > Dan, > Looks like I can't make it for the Friday lunch. ?In the end I had to > go with family mini-reunion in NY for the weekend. ?Have fun, try to > stay cool. ?Snow's starting to melt here.. Sorry you won't make it Doug. But family comes first. There is more to come. Like Jill and Howard's shindig. Dano From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 05:35:47 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 00:35:47 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Daytona is cold (but fun so far) In-Reply-To: <8CC86415914F383-732C-1599B@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> References: <4a4431121002271857j6388a5cdpab9ff2ae515544d2@mail.gmail.com> <8CC86415914F383-732C-1599B@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4a4431121003012135g43f16471ycc80767222770485@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Tom Cutter wrote: > Dan- > > Do you ever go to the Lighthouse Landing Restaurant down on Ponce Inlet (the > old original inlet) ? > > Great conch and crabcakes. > Yes! Ate there last night, ordered the fish dip for under $5. Dano From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Tue Mar 2 11:28:46 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 06:28:46 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now that's a real pisser In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4B8CB01E.18791.1B2F5409@localhost> > http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=11&sid=291374 > (WS) > > I suspect they will be talking about "how he went" for years. > My dad told me of a joke that they would play on young engineers. (Real engineers that drove a train.) Sometime nature would call while you were driving the train. One could use the toilet in the passenger cars, but that was a long walk through the engine which was not a pleasant trip, especially at night. It was common practice to just open the door of the train and go out the side of the engine. When the new engineer started to go the senior engineer would calmly say "don't hit the third rail". Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From gary5410 at aol.com Tue Mar 2 13:25:41 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:25:41 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - military jokes :-) Message-ID: <8CC8822FD9757A5-44A8-32E0@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> On some air bases the Air Force is on one side of the field and civilian aircraft use the other side of the field, with the control tower in the middle. One day the tower received a call from an aircraft asking, "What time is it?" The tower responded, "Who is calling?" The aircraft replied, "What difference does it make?" The tower replied, "It makes a lot of difference... If it is a commercial flight, it is 3 o'clock. If it is an Air Force plane, it is 1500 hours. If it is a Navy aircraft, it is 6 bells. If it is an Army aircraft, the big hand is on the 12 and the little hand is on the 3. If it is a Marine Corps aircraft, it's Wednesday afternoon and 120 minutes to "Happy Hour." ________________________________ During training exercises, the lieutenant who was driving down a muddy back road encountered another car stuck in the mud with a red-faced colonel at the wheel. "Your jeep stuck, sir?" asked the lieutenant as he pulled alongside. "Nope," replied the colonel, coming over and handing him the keys "Yours is." _____________________________ Having just moved into his new office, a pompous, new colonel was sitting at his desk when an airman knocked on the door. Conscious of his new position the colonel quickly picked up the phone, told the airman to enter, then said into the phone, "Yes, General, I'll be seeing him this afternoon and I'll pass along your message. In the meantime, thank you for your good wishes, sir." Feeling as though he had sufficiently impressed the young enlisted man he asked, "What do you want?" "Nothing important, sir," the airman replied, "I'm just here to hook up your telephone." ________________________________ Officer: "Soldier, do you have change for a dollar?" Soldier: "Sure, buddy." Officer: "That's no way to address an officer! Now let's try it again!" "Soldier, do you have change for a dollar?" Soldier: "No, SIR!" ________________________________ Q: How do you know if there is a fighter pilot at your party? A: He'll tell you. Q: What's the difference between God and fighter pilots? A: God doesn't think he's a fighter pilot. Q: What's the difference between a fighter pilot and a jet engine? A: A jet engine stops whining when the plane shuts down. ________________________________ An Air Force Chief Master Sergeant and a General were sitting in the barbershop. They were both just getting finished with their shaves, when the barbers reached for some after-shave to slap on their faces. The General shouted, "Hey, don't put that stuff on me! My wife will think I've been in a whorehouse!" The Chief turned to his barber and said, "Go ahead and put it on. My wife doesn't know what the inside of a whorehouse smells like." ________________________________ "Well," snarled the tough old Navy Chief to the bewildered Seaman, "I suppose after you get discharged from the Navy, you'll just be waiting for me to die so you can come and pee on my grave." "Not me, Chief!" the Seaman replied. "Once I get out of the Navy, I'm never going to stand in line again!" From piechota at argolis.org Tue Mar 2 13:56:13 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:56:13 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moving Truck In-Reply-To: <4B880CC6.3060405@argolis.org> References: <4B87EB3F.6050200@argolis.org> <6805E342-4510-4B8F-B10B-11FAD62789AD@comcast.net> <4B880CC6.3060405@argolis.org> Message-ID: <4B8D18FD.50608@argolis.org> Matt Piechota wrote: > James T. Fox, IV wrote: >> Hey, Matt, >> >> Details? Where are you doing this? Etc., etc. > > Surprisingly, several people asked for more info. I figured this post > would elicit more of a 'Sucks to be you' response. So, the move went reasonably well after the snow stopped. MAC-PAC heros Alain and Suzie Kaldewaay and Doug Raymond stopped by and lent an irreplaceable hand as I was fading fast. Their visit didn't allow me to stop working, which was a very real possibility. I can't thank them enough for the help. Various others called or sent emails that I'm just now getting to, this being the first time I've sat down at my computer since Thursday. I'm kicking myself for missing a picture opportunity; let me set the scene: drifted snow, a slippery driveway, a 16' Penske-yellow moving truck, and Doug Raymond's R1100RT parked in front of my mailbox at least 8" deep in heavy, wet snow. I can't believe I didn't think to snap a picture. Just to clear up something that several people have asked: I haven't moved, just Beth. Do you guys think I'd really try to slip away (mostly) silently in the night? :) From piechota at argolis.org Tue Mar 2 13:59:45 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:59:45 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moving Truck In-Reply-To: References: <4B87EB3F.6050200@argolis.org> Message-ID: <4B8D19D1.4090506@argolis.org> Ken Bruce wrote: > >> Anyone want to help me load a moving truck? >> >> - Yes, I'm seriously trying to load a truck today. >> - No, I don't expect anyone to actually say yes. > ------------------------------- > > Hey Matt, > > If you end up waiting til tomorrow morning I can help. Couldn't do it. The truck had to be back Saturday. In hindsight, it only took an hour to unload in MD, so we could have waited. But, we drove down Friday night, getting in at 11PM. Funny how driving a truck on 95 seems like rest after moving boxes for a day or two. From motorrader at verizon.net Tue Mar 2 14:45:34 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:45:34 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [slash2] The Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band References: <39b38.36aaf802.38bdc1aa@aol.com> Message-ID: <70E1C11188D54CDEBC4C4E1893BD565B@dellfe483b726d> > So are we going to get to hear this band at Vech's in April?? I'll sit in > (in a sidecar?).... I play bass, washboard, washtub bass, guitar, banjo, > fiddle, mandolin, Dobro, autoharp and a mean 2 gallon jug! ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jimindodgecity > ====================================== > Wow, sign him up for Father Folk or I'm moving to Dodge City. Who > is this guy anyway? Roddy Roddy, That Jim in Dodge City is indeed one talented fellow he sent me a sample of his music, but there was a problem, so I will have to ask him to resubmit. Below is a submission from Max Butler, musician and sidecar rider. He plays the musical saw. You don't hear those everyday. The following is his posting. Wish I lived closer. You need a saw player. Guess we'll just have to start a third coast version too. Listen me backing 'The Wahooligans" here in Texas at- http://www.reverbnation.com/maxbutler Max '67r/50 with stolz sidecar From motorrader at verizon.net Tue Mar 2 14:51:25 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:51:25 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] ECOs in Ed Youngblood's www.Motohistory.net References: <4a4431121003012056o42fefb2cs922c174dcd90b173@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Ed Youngblood has done a great job of covering the history of the > "Dalnik" Czech word for ECO style motorcycles. My son Skyler and I > appear in one of the pics (with thumbs up) of my ECO. > "www.motohistory.net" > Click on "news." > ECO Dano Dan, Ed Youngblood did a very nice job with the ECO and the history behind the machine. Congratulations. Todd Trumbore From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 14:55:36 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:55:36 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] ECOs in Ed Youngblood's www.Motohistory.net In-Reply-To: <4a4431121003012056o42fefb2cs922c174dcd90b173@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121003012056o42fefb2cs922c174dcd90b173@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Dan Whitfield wrote: > Ed Youngblood has done a great job of covering the history of the > "Dalnik" Czech word for ECO style motorcycles. My son Skyler and I > appear in one of the pics (with thumbs up) of my ECO. > > "www.motohistory.net" > > Click on "news." > That is really a great and fascinating summary of cabin-motocycle development. Youngblood gets all the important facts of Eco and others, without cluttering it up with detail. It's too bad that you can't really get similar, simple info from the Peraves website, which is mostly in German and it buries the important stuff under tons of detail and navigation. Nice shots of you and Skyler in there. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From ephoet at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 15:54:51 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:54:51 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT -- V22 on Channel 6 ABC tonight Message-ID: Hot off da press, some may find the video of interest. --- EPH V-22 in the news on Phila 6ABC www.6abc.com Local Philadelphia ABC affiliate WPVI-TV channel 6 is expected to air a special report on the V-22 Osprey during tonight's 11 p.m. news broadcast. The piece is expected to contrast current and historical criticisms of the aircraft with the actual experiences of the United States Marine Corps in Afghanistan and Iraq. In completing the story, 6ABC reporter Dann Cuellar visited the Rotorcraft Systems Ridley Park facility to interview V-22 Program Manager John Rader and tour the production line. Cuellar then spent two days at Marine Corps Air Station New River in Jacksonville, N.C. interviewing VMM-266 leaders, pilots and crew, and capturing footage of Marines utilizing the Osprey for SPIE rigging (Special Operations Insertion and Extraction) and fast-roping exercises during training for deployment. Please note, breaking news and other last-minute editorial decisions could preempt the airing of this story. From motorrader at verizon.net Tue Mar 2 16:10:14 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:10:14 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Band Message-ID: Okay, let's see....there's a full moon on the 26th of June....that's just 4 weeks before the Father Folk this year. Say....we practice once on the 26th of June at the Father Folk site and videotape our Premier a month later at the Father Folk. Bill Zane, Rolly Todd, and Doug know the way. I'll stack fire wood by the fire pit. Jack can make up the tee shirts. Rogers can bring the goat and chickens. Let's see... did I miss anything? Roddy. Roddy sounds like a wonderful plan. I got work to do. Todd From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 16:26:46 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:26:46 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] ECOs in Ed Youngblood's www.Motohistory.net In-Reply-To: References: <4a4431121003012056o42fefb2cs922c174dcd90b173@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a4431121003020826l30413d4ewc34ee3ba25376fb3@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > >> Ed Youngblood has done a great job of covering the history of the >> "Dalnik" Czech word for ECO style motorcycles. My son Skyler and I >> appear in one of the pics (with thumbs up) of my ECO. >> "www.motohistory.net" >> Click on "news." >> ECO Dano > > Dan, > Ed Youngblood did a very nice job with the ECO and the history behind the > machine. > Congratulations. > Todd Trumbore Thank you, and Thank you. The Panhead connection made it all possible. Dan From chrisjac at ptd.net Tue Mar 2 17:11:11 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:11:11 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The perfect gift for some in the pac...NSFW (language) Message-ID: <4B8D46AF.9030701@ptd.net> http://www.baronbob.com/terryturtle-swearing.htm watch the video NSFW Chris Jaccarino From chrisjac at ptd.net Tue Mar 2 17:13:43 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:13:43 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] For You...... Message-ID: <4B8D4747.4080101@ptd.net> http://www.baronbob.com/binocular-liquor-flask.htm From rollybrown at verizon.net Tue Mar 2 19:11:51 2010 From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:11:51 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] The Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band In-Reply-To: References: <54D96D61B1D14237B0437A5509B30C23@dellfe483b726d> <43840a7e1002281150r1bc83a05p8e968d42326c8e7b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42583322-97D0-4E90-B928-91F49D394F14@verizon.net> On Mar 1, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > Jim, > We decided we needed an east coast version of the Sidecar Jazz > Band, from Hollywood, CA. A few of us got together to form The > Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band, based in Southeast Pennsylvania. We > all live in the vicinity of the Philadelphia Folk Festival, so how > appropriate. This is the line up: > > Rolly Brown..........................................Dulcimer, > Mandolin, Guitar Todd, Thanks for including me in the band. I may have to hurry in order to learn how to play dulcimer and mandolin, but here are a couple guitar audtions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXxFgAAOQc0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnVqyMSdgpw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZSM-VZe-jg BTW, I'll send a separate email on this, but I'll be playing a coffeehouse gig in Levittown on March 12 with my old pal Marcy Marxer. info here: http://www.momandpops.org/marcyrolly.html Cheers, Rolly Rolly Brown Sellersville PA www.rollybrown.com www.myspace.com/rollybrown From rollybrown at verizon.net Tue Mar 2 19:25:21 2010 From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:25:21 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Rolly Brown and Marcy Marxer in concert!!! Friday, March 12 Message-ID: <041A2930-B45F-4155-85A2-E49FF63CF69E@verizon.net> Hi, Folks, On Friday, March 12, I'll have the great pleasure of playing a concert with my old pal Marcy Marxer at "Mom-n-Pop's Coffeehouse" In Levittown PA. Marcy is a two-time Grammy winner and a terrific multi- instrumentalist. We'll be playing and singing, and, when we get together, gypsy jazz, swing, blues, bluegrass, country, and folk are all on the table. Should be fun! You can find details here: http://www.momandpops.org/marcyrolly.html Lots of people think that Marcy and I are actually sister and brother, separated at birth!! I'm afraid I'm not at liberty to comment on that assertion, but you're welcome to come out and draw your own conclusions! Hope some of you can make it. Cheers, Rolly Rolly Brown Sellersville PA www.rollybrown.com www.myspace.com/rollybrown Cheers, Rolly Rolly Brown Sellersville PA www.rollybrown.com www.myspace.com/rollybrown From ephoet at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 20:49:18 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:49:18 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now that's a real pisser In-Reply-To: <4B8CB01E.18791.1B2F5409@localhost> References: <4B8CB01E.18791.1B2F5409@localhost> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Joe Dille wrote: > > >> http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=11&sid=291374 >> (WS) >> >> I suspect they will be talking about "how he went" for years. >> > > My dad told me of a joke that they would play on young engineers. > (Real engineers that drove a train.) ?Sometime nature would call > while you were driving the train. ?One could use the toilet in the > passenger cars, but that was a long walk through the engine which was > not a pleasant trip, especially at night. ?It was common practice to > just open the door of the train and go out the side of the engine. > > When the new engineer started to go the senior engineer would calmly > say "don't hit the third rail". > > Ride Safe, > > Joe > --------------------------------- Subways and Mass Transit systems use 3rd rail power systems. Long haul trains do not, but some apparently can pick it up near the city. >From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_rail A famous 1992 Supreme Court of Illinois decision affirmed a $1.5 million verdict against the Chicago Transit Authority for failing to stop an intoxicated Korean immigrant from walking onto the tracks at a grade crossing and attempting to urinate on the third rail.[1] I remember hearing a story about an engineer who was walking along a 3rd rail system. It was raining, and as he walked along he would periodically get whacked. Took a while to figure out it was the water dripping off the bottom of the raincoat. Then getting zapped in the back of the neck, where the raincoat ended..... 600V will do that for you. (NYC Subway system) Erik West Chester From kaldewaay at live.com Tue Mar 2 21:46:38 2010 From: kaldewaay at live.com (Alain Kaldewaay) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 16:46:38 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moving Truck In-Reply-To: <4B8D18FD.50608@argolis.org> References: <4B87EB3F.6050200@argolis.org>, <6805E342-4510-4B8F-B10B-11FAD62789AD@comcast.net>, <4B880CC6.3060405@argolis.org>, <4B8D18FD.50608@argolis.org> Message-ID: > So, the move went reasonably well after the snow stopped. MAC-PAC heros > Alain and Suzie Kaldewaay and Doug Raymond stopped by and lent an > irreplaceable hand as I was fading fast. Their visit didn't allow me to > stop working, which was a very real possibility. I can't thank them > enough for the help. No problem anytime DAK, Suzie _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Two confirmed so far; jim Robinson, Garry Christman > Dear riders friends, Mac-Pac, > The day is set for Sunday March 7th 2010 at 10:00 am sharp the spouse will > not be involved in the trip proceedings but they will have a hell off a time > with the puppies. > Please RSVP I will have good Dutch beer and snacks and coffee as needed. > > DAK _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ From 321design at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 23:56:52 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:56:52 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] US Daredevil Smashes Harley Jump Record (and nuts) Message-ID: <74d2fbe11003021556x1b7ac071n33ee8bd5ac3e57dd@mail.gmail.com> Enslow Flies 183.7 Feet On Motorcycle To Set New Record; cracks gas tank with balls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVD929BTgBY AP story: http://tinyurl.com/yjcpqll Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From bmwbrian at voicenet.com Wed Mar 3 00:54:38 2010 From: bmwbrian at voicenet.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:54:38 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Saint Patrick's Day is just around the corner Message-ID: Time to wear orange if you are from the Northern bits and want to spool up folks. I bet the Dutch will be wearing Orange. However,this is an interesting idea: http://www.ehow.com/how_5088744_make-guinness-beer-milkshake.html -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 01:05:07 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 20:05:07 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Black Bear Kills Motorcyclist Killed In Crash Message-ID: Bears are NOT good either. They are spreading across the US too. They have even less visibility for us than the damn deer. ============== Motorcyclist Killed In Crash With Black Bear AP Posted: 11:28 am EST March 2,2010 UMATILLA, Fla. -- A motorcyclist who collided with a black bear on a Marion County road has died. According to the Florida Highway Patrol, the bear ran in front of Ronald Roy Stanley while the 51-year-old was riding his motorcycle Monday night. Stanley was pronounced dead at a Tavares hospital. His wife, who was riding another motorcycle behind him, wasn't hurt. It is unclear if the bear was injured. The Ocala Star-Banner reports that the animal left the scene after the collision ============ I wonder if the bear will be cited for leaving the scene of a motor vehicle accident. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Wed Mar 3 01:25:04 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 01:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Black Bear Kills Motorcyclist Killed In Crash In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2135993954.10791341267579504775.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >Bears are NOT good either. They are spreading across the US too. They >have even less visibility for us than the damn deer. ============== Lorne and I saw a bear sitting on the road on the Blue Ridge Parkway while heading down to TN this past summer. At first I was like, "cool, a bear", but then it dawned on me that hitting him would suck severely. As soon as I got on the brakes he looked up and then booked it off of the road. A friend of mine got a bear during hunting season about 3 miles from Hermy's so be careful when you head up there as well. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 01:30:08 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 20:30:08 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] We are being robbed of time!!! Message-ID: Damn Earthquakes.... Interesting. The earthquake in Chili shortened the length of the day and shifted the axis. "The massive 8.8 earthquake that struck Chile may have changed the entire Earth's rotation and shortened the length of days on our planet, a NASA scientist said Monday." http://tinyurl.com/yz6xypa full link is http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20100302/sc_space/chileearthquakemayhaveshorteneddaysonearth;_ylt=A2KIKvOoT41L6zYAlSas0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTRocXVrZTVqBGFzc2V0A3NwYWNlLzIwMTAwMzAyL2NoaWxlZWFydGhxdWFrZW1heWhhdmVzaG9ydGVuZWRkYXlzb25lYXJ0aARjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWxhcgRjcG9zAzgEcG9zAzUEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9saXN0BHNsawNjaGlsZWVhcnRocXU- (WS) Check the comments out too!! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 02:38:12 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:38:12 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Black Bear Kills Motorcyclist Killed In Crash In-Reply-To: <2135993954.10791341267579504775.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <2135993954.10791341267579504775.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On 3/2/10, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) > Lorne and I saw a bear sitting on the road on the Blue Ridge Parkway while heading down to TN this past summer. At first I was like, "cool, a bear", but then it dawned on me that hitting him would suck severely. As soon as I got on the brakes he looked up and then booked it off of the road. ========= Fontana RA Rally. I saw this "big dog" heading up to the base of the Fontana dam. Then I realized "Bear". DARK BEAR. And remembered that I had been hooking up 28 the night before. It was NOT a comforting thought. > A friend of mine got a bear during hunting season about 3 miles from Hermy's so be careful when you head up there as well. They carted one out of Pottsgrove Twp, about 13 miles from me. They are spreading through NJ too. Same as deer but starting at a lower level. A MD legislator wanted a bear season in Western MD. Those in the Eastern part of the state said NO, bears are "cute". The Western guys then wanted to send one of their "excess bears" to each of the "unpopulated counties". That did not go over either. However the bears don't answer to the legislators. They ARE moving east into the "unpopulated" areas. Getting to the Eastern Shore will be interesting for them. Watch out for dem bears!! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From rtill6 at aol.com Mon Mar 1 14:58:08 2010 From: rtill6 at aol.com (rtill6 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:58:08 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Jazz band......you're going to love this ! In-Reply-To: <91395.7b2a96a9.38bc748d@aol.com> References: <91395.7b2a96a9.38bc748d@aol.com> Message-ID: <8CC8766BD7B8594-346C-21D5@webmail-m097.sysops.aol.com> Todd Maybe we could get them to come to one of our get-togethers. Gordon -----Original Message----- From: Braveirwin at aol.com To: motorrader at verizon.net; mac-pac-l at jtan.com Sent: Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:38 pm Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Jazz band......you're going to love this ! In a message dated 2/28/2010 1:10:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocZQ6ii2U5Q I sure hope you enjoyed this as much as I did. Todd Trumbore, sidecar crazy ==================================================== Todd, that was great! I'm not much into Jazz, but maybe we can get one started with some Bluegrass musicians or something. Roddy. _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 23:41:29 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:41:29 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT--in which Rogers writes a poem In-Reply-To: <1f13c3621003010711xd15e961k92f09493e2a09758@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f13c3621003010711xd15e961k92f09493e2a09758@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I can't believe Riepe let you get away with the cocks and puddle description. On 3/1/10, Rogers George wrote: > Val ordered a bunch of chicks today. We're going to raise them and > eventually offer the young hens to people who want to keep a couple > chickens as pets (who pay their way, unlike, say, cats) in their back > yards. Sorry, no goat poem--yet. Three folks expressed interest in a > BBQ this fall. > > Eepy-cheepy goes the chick > Lots to choose from, here's my pick > Cocks his shining eye at me > --and leaves a puddle on my knee. > > Hmm. That's so good, maybe I'll put it up on facebook... > > Best wishes, > Rogers George > Newark, DE > http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com > http://writing-rag.com > http://rogersgeorge.com > http://serenitytravelnewark.com > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Sent from my mobile device BMW-Dick Bipartisanship is when both parties work together to destroy the country. From bmwdick at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 02:30:47 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:30:47 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Black Bear Kills Motorcyclist Killed In Crash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jane wants to know how long it took Ron Roy's wife to train the bear. On 3/2/10, Brian Curry wrote: > Bears are NOT good either. They are spreading across the US too. They > have even less visibility for us than the damn deer. > ============== > > Motorcyclist Killed In Crash With Black Bear > > AP Posted: 11:28 am EST March 2,2010 > > UMATILLA, Fla. -- A motorcyclist who collided with a black bear on a > Marion County road has died. > > According to the Florida Highway Patrol, the bear ran in front of > Ronald Roy Stanley while the 51-year-old was riding his motorcycle > Monday night. > > Stanley was pronounced dead at a Tavares hospital. His wife, who was > riding another motorcycle behind him, wasn't hurt. > > It is unclear if the bear was injured. The Ocala Star-Banner reports > that the animal left the scene after the collision > ============ > > I wonder if the bear will be cited for leaving the scene of a motor > vehicle accident. > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ambassador BMW MOA | > Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? > "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped > K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at > Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Sent from my mobile device BMW-Dick Bipartisanship is when both parties work together to destroy the country. From jack.weiss at aaaindustrialsupply.com Tue Mar 2 19:47:50 2010 From: jack.weiss at aaaindustrialsupply.com (Jack Weiss) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:47:50 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Light Camera's, Jack Weiss to the White Telephone please... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5497BB20710E4BBBA380C145FB576F48@jackde48df08c6> Found some DATA, that is not supporting your "It is obvious that Red Light Cameras will and have reduced crashes on the Roosevelt Boulevard." conclusion. Done by a newspaper. Using contemporaneous DATA, obtained from the Philadelphia Police. http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news-and-opinion/red-light_district-384017 69.html (WS) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Wow, I go away for a few days and after wading through 400 Mac Pac emails I find out the phone is ringing. Anyway, while I do enjoy the Philadelphia Weekly, I generally stick to the back section to see if my favorite whore house is still in business and gain some sexual insight from Savage Love (PW's version of Dear Abby with a cock ring). So since both PW and Brian have declared Red Lights a bad thing, I think we should transform the Cheessteak ride a few had discussed into an Eat N Shoot. We can down half a dozen steaks in the city and plan our route around the red lights. You'll know what to do when you see one. Luv you Brian, Happy Jack (Answering the Phone) From wayne at 2zars.com Wed Mar 3 02:51:14 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The perfect gift for some in the pac...NSFW (language) In-Reply-To: <4B8D46AF.9030701@ptd.net> References: <4B8D46AF.9030701@ptd.net> Message-ID: >http://www.baronbob.com/terryturtle-swearing.htm > >watch the video > >NSFW NSFW my a$$, I gotta get one of these for my office!! Thanks Chris! Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 04:09:41 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:09:41 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Beware another two feet of snow may be coming.... Message-ID: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9UCVX_0cfk/S3YLJ_fVECI/AAAAAAAAC3s/WJOaKlmos9s/s1600-h/photo.jpg (WS) I suspect the Dille kids are involved!!! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 05:08:38 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 00:08:38 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Day 4 Daytona Message-ID: <4a4431121003022108l390c3197t1b4d4fe35c509203@mail.gmail.com> Lota people didn't want to get out in the cold wind today, but I had fun. We set up the ECOs up in the Roya Blue wax stand to the right side of the rock band stage. It would have made a really great picture (if we had a camera). Tom and Kathy rode their space ECO to Deland to see the manitees. It was a tough day to be camping out. I was not camping out. More pictures of aliens were taken. ECO Dano Daytoa From gary5410 at aol.com Wed Mar 3 05:29:13 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 00:29:13 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Day 4 Daytona In-Reply-To: <4a4431121003022108l390c3197t1b4d4fe35c509203@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121003022108l390c3197t1b4d4fe35c509203@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC88A997E921DE-363C-B605@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com> WHAT! NO camera...... ;-) Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure <<-----Original Message----- It would have made a really great picture (if we had a camera).>> From mjcantwe at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 05:53:38 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 00:53:38 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Saint Patrick's Day is just around the corner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8bafeb801003022153tb364faeg94b06d919d3b3394@mail.gmail.com> YUM! > http://www.ehow.com/how_5088744_make-guinness-beer-milkshake.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 06:06:15 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 01:06:15 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Day 4 Daytona In-Reply-To: <8CC88A997E921DE-363C-B605@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com> References: <4a4431121003022108l390c3197t1b4d4fe35c509203@mail.gmail.com> <8CC88A997E921DE-363C-B605@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 3/3/10, Gary Christman wrote: > WHAT! NO camera...... ;-) > > Gary Christman > '07 R 1200 GS Adventure > > > <<-----Original Message----- > It would have made a really great picture > (if we had a camera).>> I think you are going to have to train him... Remember he started life as a HD rider.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 06:13:36 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 01:13:36 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Maybe nuclear weapons are not all that bad.... Message-ID: It is just that wars suck. Project Gnome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Gnome Check the picture of the guy standing INSIDE the cavern created by the atomic bomb detonation!!! There is radioactive decay occurring EVERYWHERE AROUND him. http://www.nuclearfiles.org/menu/library/media-gallery/video/testing/project-gnome-2.wmv (Check the guys walking in with the Geiger counters ahead of them to see "how hot is it" where they are going. They entered the cavity about 5 months after the detonation. Not that long. And most of the irradiated stuff "stayed put" and was still there "shining", and that is part of why the chamber was 140F when they entered it. From: Testing Footage http://www.nuclearfiles.org/menu/library/media-gallery/video/testing/ (All WS) If you have worked in today's nuclear power industry then things they did "back in the day" make you go BOGGLE, they did WHAT???? with no "protection". -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From rdlebout at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 11:17:02 2010 From: rdlebout at gmail.com (Roberts LeBoutillier) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 06:17:02 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Vote for this QMA car In-Reply-To: <3f2b32881003010238y4e511440y45a6c504685115b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <45921.12.181.211.35.1267197613.squirrel@12.181.211.35> <3f2b32881003010238y4e511440y45a6c504685115b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3f2b32881003030317g38812d68p9585ef5b0dde624c@mail.gmail.com> >> I would like a little favor. ?Toyota is having a design a car graphics >> contest for their NASCAR team. ?One of the Quarter Midget drivers (QMA) >> has entered a design. ?If he wins they will use the design in the all-star >> race. >> Race Safe, > Joe > > Time to vote again http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/view/88154 -- Bobby LeBoutillier From Ducdude at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 11:50:42 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:50:42 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] big trouble-making biker - Funny Message-ID: A guy is sitting at the bar, just staring at his drink for half an hour when this big trouble-making biker steps next to him, grabs his drink, gulps it down in one swig and then turns to the guy with a menacing stare as if to say, "What'cha gonna do about it? " The poor guy starts crying. "Come on man I was just giving you a hard time," the biker says. "I didn't think you'd CRY about it. I can't stand to see a man cry." "This is the worst day of my life," says the little guy between sobs. "I can not do anything right. I overslept and was late to an important meeting, so my boss fired me." "When I went to the parking lot, I found my car was stolen and I don't have any insurance." "I left my wallet in the cab I took home." "I found my wife in bed with the gardener and then my dog bit me." "So I came to this bar trying to work up the courage to put an end to my life, and then you show up and drink the damn poison." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Roddy From ephoet at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 13:10:59 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:10:59 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] US Daredevil Smashes Harley Jump Record (and nuts) In-Reply-To: <74d2fbe11003021556x1b7ac071n33ee8bd5ac3e57dd@mail.gmail.com> References: <74d2fbe11003021556x1b7ac071n33ee8bd5ac3e57dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> wrote: > Enslow Flies 183.7 Feet On Motorcycle To Set New Record; cracks gas > tank with balls > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVD929BTgBY > > AP story: > > http://tinyurl.com/yjcpqll ---------------------------------------------------- Not sure what the record is for, others apparently have jumped close to 400 ft. 184 feet seems to be just a puddle jumper in comparison. One example, though the video quality is terrible http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exiLWPUjqj0&NR=1 No, the others did not ride an HD. Is that important? Erik West Chester From piechota at argolis.org Wed Mar 3 13:39:46 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:39:46 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT -- V22 on Channel 6 ABC tonight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B8E66A2.6090705@argolis.org> Erik Hoet wrote: > Hot off da press, some may find the video of interest. --- EPH > > V-22 in the news on Phila 6ABC www.6abc.com > > Local Philadelphia ABC affiliate WPVI-TV channel 6 is expected to air > a special report on the V-22 Osprey during tonight's 11 p.m. news > broadcast. The piece is expected to contrast current and historical > criticisms of the aircraft with the actual experiences of the United > States Marine Corps in Afghanistan and Iraq. I saw one the other day down near Pax River NAS. A little goofy, but instantly recognizable. :) From piechota at argolis.org Wed Mar 3 13:47:46 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:47:46 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Saint Patrick's Day is just around the corner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B8E6882.7000500@argolis.org> Brian Curry wrote: > Time to wear orange if you are from the Northern bits and want to > spool up folks. I bet the Dutch will be wearing Orange. > > However,this is an interesting idea: > http://www.ehow.com/how_5088744_make-guinness-beer-milkshake.html > I've had a few Guinness shakes in the past, and they are pretty good. It can be tough to balance the 'bitterness' (I quote that because it's not that bitter) with the ice cream without losing the beer flavor, but worth it if you do. You can also add a bit of liquor (such as Creme de Menth) to spice it up. From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Mar 3 13:53:21 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:53:21 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] US Daredevil Smashes Harley Jump Record (and nuts) Message-ID: In a message dated 3/3/2010 8:11:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ephoet at gmail.com writes: No, the others did not ride an HD. Is that important? ============================================ It is just a record for HD, that's all. Roddy Irwin, Arborist of Berks County '92 K 75 RT '85 R 80 RT '74 CB 200 T and assorted dirt bikes. From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 14:55:43 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 09:55:43 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Day 4 Daytona In-Reply-To: <677a.3d949734.38bfad28@aol.com> References: <677a.3d949734.38bfad28@aol.com> Message-ID: <4a4431121003030655g5bb93e2ew6f993acec296823@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:16 AM, wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/3/2010 12:08:56 ?A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > whitfield.dan at gmail.com writes: > More pictures of ?aliens were taken. > ======================================= > > Yeah, show ?us the aliens! ? Roddy Kathy has a camera, maybe we can put on Picasa or something. Dan From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Mar 3 15:00:09 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:00:09 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Day 4 Daytona Message-ID: In a message dated 3/3/2010 9:55:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, whitfield.dan at gmail.com writes: Kathy has a camera, maybe we can put on Picasa or something. =============================================== Alright! The only way I can get to Daytona is vicariously. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100303/58a3d9f8/attachment.html From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Mar 3 15:00:57 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:00:57 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: Day 4 Daytona Message-ID: From: Braveirwin at aol.com To: whitfield.dan at gmail.com CC: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Sent: 3/3/2010 10:00:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: Re: [MAC-PAC] Day 4 Daytona In a message dated 3/3/2010 9:55:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, whitfield.dan at gmail.com writes: Kathy has a camera, maybe we can put on Picasa or something. =============================================== Alright! The only way I can get to Daytona is vicariously. Roddy. From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 15:10:47 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:10:47 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Day 4 Daytona In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4a4431121003030710r306a0c4eu692975643af52218@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:00 AM, wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/3/2010 9:55:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > whitfield.dan at gmail.com writes: > > Kathy has a camera, maybe we can put on Picasa or something. > > =============================================== > > Alright! The only way I can get to Daytona is vicariously.? Roddy. Marge is meeting me at the band stand around noonish across from the Indian Motorcycle Dealer. Dano From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Mar 3 15:24:14 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:24:14 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT -- V22 on Channel 6 ABC tonight In-Reply-To: <4B8E66A2.6090705@argolis.org> References: <4B8E66A2.6090705@argolis.org> Message-ID: <29996.12.181.211.35.1267629854.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > Erik Hoet wrote: >> Hot off da press, some may find the video of interest. --- EPH >> >> V-22 in the news on Phila 6ABC www.6abc.com >> >> Local Philadelphia ABC affiliate WPVI-TV channel 6 is expected to air >> a special report on the V-22 Osprey during tonight's 11 p.m. news >> broadcast. The piece is expected to contrast current and historical >> criticisms of the aircraft with the actual experiences of the United >> States Marine Corps in Afghanistan and Iraq. > > I saw one the other day down near Pax River NAS. A little goofy, but > instantly recognizable. :) > I watched channel 6 news last night. It was not on :-( Ride Safe, Joe From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 15:37:03 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:37:03 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oxygenate your booze, don't CO2 it! Message-ID: Sober up faster and no downsides, good thing. http://www.dailytech.com/Korean+Researchers+Develop+Safer+Alcohol+Which+Lessens+Hangovers/article17806.htm (WS) Well actually I can think of a few. Smoking and drinking could be bad. Plus all the fittings in the pressurization system would have to be oxygen safe. No oil there! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 16:02:39 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 11:02:39 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: A ring for gear heads Message-ID: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/02/gear-ring-is-like-mechanical-catnip-to-nerds/ (WS) Just way cool. A rind with two "bands" around little gears that rotate as the "bands" are rotated. Check the Youtube video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI2N6fsPjjg This also demonstrates what can be done with machining centers these days. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 16:10:44 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 11:10:44 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] While flipping off a cop may be legal it might not be smart Message-ID: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/flipping-off-cops-is-legal-not-advised/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Index+3+%28Top+Stories+2%29%29 (WS) Unless you really like aggravation many different ways. Interesting way of "instructing" your kid on how to interact with people who carry guns. There is even a definitive paper on it. ?Digitus Impudicus: The Middle Finger and the Law.? http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2010/03/middlefinger.pdf (WS, 83 pages.) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wateredg at interlog.com Wed Mar 3 16:21:26 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 11:21:26 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] While flipping off a cop may be legal it might not besmart References: Message-ID: Hello Brian, From: "Brian Curry" > http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/flipping-off-cops-is-legal-not-advised/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Index+3+%28Top+Stories+2%29%29 > (WS) > > Unless you really like aggravation many different ways. Interesting way > of "instructing" your kid on how to interact with people who carry guns. [...] I finally understand the true meaning of the phrase "Stupid is, as stupid does" from the movie "Forest Gump." -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From chrisjac at ptd.net Wed Mar 3 16:28:56 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:28:56 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] While flipping off a cop may be legal it might not besmart In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B8E8E48.7000004@ptd.net> Steve Makohin wrote: > Hello Brian, > > From: "Brian Curry" > > > >> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/flipping-off-cops-is-legal-not-advised/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Index+3+%28Top+Stories+2%29%29 >> (WS) >> >> Unless you really like aggravation many different ways. Interesting way >> of "instructing" your kid on how to interact with people who carry guns. >> > [...] > > I finally understand the true meaning of the phrase "Stupid is, as stupid > does" from the movie "Forest Gump." > Either that or it's simply brilliant if he gets awarded damages. I'd love to be on that jury and hear why the cop stopped the guy. Would be smart if the guy actually recorded everything with a camera/sound and then presents that evidence. Chris Jaccarino From wateredg at interlog.com Wed Mar 3 16:42:11 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 11:42:11 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] While flipping off a cop may be legal it might not besmart References: <4B8E8E48.7000004@ptd.net> Message-ID: <1B61253C2D0A43FDB5B3834F047D8706@9200c> Hello Chris, From: "Chris" > Steve Makohin wrote: >> Hello Brian, >> >> From: "Brian Curry" >> >>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/flipping-off-cops-is-legal-not-advised/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Index+3+%28Top+Stories+2%29%29 >>> (WS) >>> >>> Unless you really like aggravation many different ways. Interesting way >>> of "instructing" your kid on how to interact with people who carry guns. >> [...] >> >> I finally understand the true meaning of the phrase "Stupid is, as stupid >> does" from the movie "Forest Gump." > > Either that or it's simply brilliant if he gets awarded damages. I'd love > to be on that jury and hear why the cop stopped the guy. Would be smart > if the guy actually recorded everything with a camera/sound and then > presents that evidence. It all depends on what you want from Life. The guy in the story may be able to make some decent coin by continuing his antics. I equate this to a well-paying job that I despise. Granted, he may take great joy from taunting police, taking chances on being on the receiving end of physical violence, working through the legal system, and then hoping for a monetary return on his investment of time and effort. Whatever floats you boat! This lifestyle does not appeal to me in the least. I'd rather be fine-dining, socializing with friends, making music, writing, riding my motorcycle, or a number of other things that bring me to a "happy place." That's just me, though. As I like to say, "do whatever works for *you*." -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From mjcantwe at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 16:53:45 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 11:53:45 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: TREMBLING EARTH, WOBBLY STARS Message-ID: <8bafeb801003030853k42011ea3lf2fc8a41f015f02d@mail.gmail.com> http://www.spaceweather.com/ From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Mar 3 17:05:55 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:05:55 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Day 4 Daytona Message-ID: <19ad5.4701bdf7.38bff0f3@aol.com> In a message dated 3/3/2010 10:10:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, whitfield.dan at gmail.com writes: Marge is meeting me at the band stand around noonish across from the Indian Motorcycle Dealer. Dano ============================================== Did she ride, drive or fly down? Roddy. From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 17:27:27 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:27:27 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guinness Punch Message-ID: per drink 12 oz cold Guinness stout 1/4 cup sweetened condensed milk 1/16 teaspoon cocoa 1/16 teaspoon allspice 1/16 teaspoon cinnamon Helping folks get into the season.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 17:32:59 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:32:59 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Rolly Brown and Marcy Marxer in concert!!! Friday, March 12 References: <041A2930-B45F-4155-85A2-E49FF63CF69E@verizon.net> Message-ID: > Hi, Folks, > On Friday, March 12, I'll have the great pleasure of playing a > concert with my old pal Marcy Marxer at "Mom-n-Pop's Coffeehouse" In > Levittown PA. Marcy is a two-time Grammy winner and a terrific multi- > instrumentalist. We'll be playing and singing, and, when we get > together, gypsy jazz, swing, blues, bluegrass, country, and folk are > all on the table. Should be fun! > You can find details here: > http://www.momandpops.org/marcyrolly.html > Cheers, > Rolly Rolly, That sounds terrific, and should be a sellout, unfortunately Laura and I both work evenings including Fridays :( While we are on the subject, the gang would like to know if you will be joining us for The Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Festival. Well, to be honest it is Roddy's Father Folk gathering over at his farm where we are shooting a video with various musicians and about six sidecars. We could use your extraordinary musical talents to help participate and guide us in this venture we are putting together. Thanks, Todd From darkside at ix.netcom.com Wed Mar 3 17:54:27 2010 From: darkside at ix.netcom.com (Darkside) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:54:27 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Guinness Punch Message-ID: <10984829.1267638867068.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> my local irish pub will be open at 06:00 on the 17th. i'm taking the day off and plan to be there with irish coffee in hand by 06:05. i'll migrate back to the guiness after my normal 2 or 3 cups of coffee woohoo! peace eric -----Original Message----- >From: Brian Curry >Sent: Mar 3, 2010 12:27 PM >To: Mac-Pac >Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guinness Punch > >per drink >12 oz cold Guinness stout >1/4 cup sweetened condensed milk >1/16 teaspoon cocoa >1/16 teaspoon allspice >1/16 teaspoon cinnamon > >Helping folks get into the season.... > >-- >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >Ambassador BMW MOA | >Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? >"DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped >K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at >Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com >_______________________________________________ >Mac-pac-l mailing list >Mac-pac-l at jtan.com >http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From pasegc at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 18:30:22 2010 From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:30:22 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Day 4 Daytona In-Reply-To: <19ad5.4701bdf7.38bff0f3@aol.com> References: <19ad5.4701bdf7.38bff0f3@aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:05 PM, wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/3/2010 10:10:49 ?A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > whitfield.dan at gmail.com writes: > > Marge is ?meeting me at the band stand around noonish across from the > Indian Motorcycle ?Dealer. > > Dano > ============================================== > > Did ?she ride, drive or fly down? ?Roddy. > She flew down on commercial airlines. I talked with her about it at the last breakfast. She has a buyer for their airplane but it requires 81 different points that need to be addressed for a price range of $15K or more. Seat belts replaced because the tags fell off, plugs, etc. Simple but very expensive because it's an airplane. Gerry Cavanaugh Coatesville, PA From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 18:44:58 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:44:58 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Festival, Need Your Help ! Message-ID: <801FFC9C676F4F7793BE7820BFCF8253@dellfe483b726d> Friends, Riders & Musicians, By now I am pretty sure most of you have seen this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocZQ6ii2U5Q performed by The Sidecar Jazz Band from Hollywood CA. What a well performed and produced video. I don't know what I like more, the music or the sidecars. But, I just had to watch that piece over and over again. Being the troublemaker that I am and with tongue clearly in cheek, I replied stating that our group of sidecar enthusiast here on the east coast were forming our own musical group called The Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band ( on Roddy's suggestion ). Well, guess what,.............they called my bluff, then challenged me to produce a video. Now do I know how to get myself into a fine mess or what ! Thankfully, Roddy Irwin made a gracious offer which should get me off the hook. Roddy hosts a musical festival each summer called Father Folk at his farm and it is a terrific event . So this is the game plan: I think I can gather around six sidecars and with the help of Roddy, Rolly and some other legitimate musicians we should be able to pull this off. I'm pretty sure Doug Raymond excels on the keyboards. I will leave the musical direction up to them, but I would also like to encourage as many mac-pac members to participate because I want to have some fun with this. In addition to the usual guitars, dulcimers, mandolins, fiddles, banjos and ukuleles we have opening for dobros, washboards,cow bells, musical saws, harmonicas, auto harps and washtub players. Brian Curry has already offered to play the..................spoons! I will be playing the Wazoo Kazoo, but be creative, bring whatever instrument you have. I believe Roddy wants to have one rehearsal in June before the filming at Father Folk in July. What do you say gang ! Todd "sidecar crazy" Trumbore From tpcutter at aol.com Wed Mar 3 19:05:54 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:05:54 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] While flipping off a cop may be legal it might not besmart In-Reply-To: <4B8E8E48.7000004@ptd.net> References: <4B8E8E48.7000004@ptd.net> Message-ID: <8CC891BAF28B702-3580-A949@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> <> That would be evidence all right. Evidence that the guy violated the law that prohibits videotaping or recording police officers in the performance of their duties. You see, that law got snuck under the door in many states after 9/11 in the guise of protecting undercover officers. In reality, most jurists believe that it was done as a delayed reaction to the Rodney King case and aftermath. So if you want to videotape cops while they are arresting you, prepare for an additional charge. Better check your state laws before you roll the cameras. You could get a little extra "Action!" --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 19:12:12 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:12:12 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Festival, Need Your Help ! In-Reply-To: <801FFC9C676F4F7793BE7820BFCF8253@dellfe483b726d> References: <801FFC9C676F4F7793BE7820BFCF8253@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > Friends, Riders & Musicians, > ....snip > So this is the game plan: ?I think I can gather around six sidecars and with > the help of Roddy, Rolly and some other legitimate musicians we should be > able to pull this off. ?I'm pretty sure Doug Raymond excels on the > keyboards. Thanks for the compliment but I play badly even when in practice and I haven't tried any pieces written after 1840. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From rollybrown at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 19:19:29 2010 From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:19:29 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] sidecar band In-Reply-To: References: <041A2930-B45F-4155-85A2-E49FF63CF69E@verizon.net> Message-ID: On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > While we are on the subject, the gang would like to know if you > will be joining us for The Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Festival. > Well, to be honest it is Roddy's Father Folk gathering over at his > farm where we are shooting a video with various musicians and about > six sidecars. We could use your extraordinary musical talents to > help participate and guide us in this venture we are putting together. Hi, Todd, Provided my health has returned by then, and my calendar cooperates, I'd love to help. Cheers, Rolly Rolly Brown Sellersville PA www.rollybrown.com www.myspace.com/rollybrown From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Mar 3 19:31:51 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:31:51 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Festival, Need Your Help ! Message-ID: <23ff7.23e16ed9.38c01327@aol.com> In a message dated 3/3/2010 2:12:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com writes: Thanks for the compliment but I play badly even when in practice and I haven't tried any pieces written after 1840. ======================================= That's alright, Doug. You make real good audience. And any way, maybe we can do a Tango tune and you can perform on stage with your favorite girlfriend while we gather 'round the sidecars and keep the beat. You game? We might as well have as much fun with this idea as possible. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100303/1745b6ea/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 19:43:15 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:43:15 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Festival, Need Your Help ! In-Reply-To: <23ff7.23e16ed9.38c01327@aol.com> References: <23ff7.23e16ed9.38c01327@aol.com> Message-ID: On 3/3/10, Braveirwin at aol.com wrote: > Thanks for the compliment but I play badly even when in practice and I > haven't tried any pieces written after 1840. > > ======================================= > > That's alright, Doug. You make real good audience. And any way, maybe we > can do a Tango tune and you can perform on stage with your favorite > girlfriend while we gather 'round the sidecars and keep the beat. You game? We might > as well have as much fun with this idea as possible. Roddy. Egzackerly. It is running it out and "performing" FSVOPerformance. If we had one of the BMW sidecars w/o headers, it could be fired up for a "flash bang" ending!!!! Pointed at the audience and camera for maximum effect. I wonder if you could do the William Tell Overture with a BMW engine exhaust? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Mar 3 19:14:41 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:14:41 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Festival, Need Your Help ! Message-ID: <5d7d.3802e682.38c00f21@aol.com> In a message dated 3/3/2010 1:45:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: I believe Roddy wants to have one rehearsal in June before the filming at Father Folk in July. What do you say gang ! =================================================== Rolly and Todd Byrum performed at Father Folk last year. Unfortunately, because of threatening weather, there was only a small audience lucky enough to enjoy their great contributions. Better weather this time? We'll count on it. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100303/77cd884f/attachment.html From chrisjac at ptd.net Wed Mar 3 20:23:10 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:23:10 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] While flipping off a cop may be legal it might not besmart In-Reply-To: <8CC891BAF28B702-3580-A949@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> References: <4B8E8E48.7000004@ptd.net> <8CC891BAF28B702-3580-A949@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B8EC52E.1000004@ptd.net> Tom Cutter wrote: > > < I'd love to be on that jury and hear why the cop stopped the guy. > Would be smart if the guy actually recorded everything with a > camera/sound and then presents that evidence. >> > > That would be evidence all right. Evidence that the guy violated the > law that prohibits videotaping or recording police officers in the > performance of their duties. You see, that law got snuck under the > door in many states after 9/11 in the guise of protecting undercover > officers. In reality, most jurists believe that it was done as a > delayed reaction to the Rodney King case and aftermath. Really? They can video or sound tape you, but you cant video or sound tape them. I'm throwing the BS flag. FLAG THROWN. I wanna see where it says I cant video or sound tape them. In fact, a little research shows that.......... the PA Supreme Court has supposedly ruled in the past.........that the Commonwealth of PA Wiretap Act does not apply to people who audiotape government officials in public settings, where they have no "expectation of privacy." http://www.aclupa.org/pressroom/aclufilessuitonbehalfofpit.htm You're correct that I cant AUDIO record YOU or someone else in a "private" setting without your consent to AUDIO taping, but it appears that the govt officials are fair game as long as one is in "public". The Wiretapping Law doesnt deal with VIDEO (sans audio) recording regardless. Yeah, the cop might not like it, you might get arrested, but tough shit. If you dont fight for your rights, who will? Here is the PA Recording Law.... http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/pennsylvania/pennsylvania-recording-law Chris Jaccarino From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 20:26:44 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:26:44 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record Message-ID: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Fellow Riders, Challenge #2 I'm always behind in my reading and last night I was catching up while on my break and paging through the January issue of the MOA ON and stumbled upon Karol Patzer's article "BMW Record Ride". I couldn't believe what I was reading, so I had to go back and re-read the second paragraph. You have to be kidding...... 241 BMW riders set a new Guinness Book Record from Grass Roots BMW in Cape Girardeau, Missouri. I immediately said to myself " This record is beatable". In fact if we can't beat this record I will eat my hat. I started to plan the logistics when I realized that this would be a terrific kick-off and promotion for our new BMW dealership, Montgomeryville Cycle Center. Anybody who has lived in this area for some time knows that we used to have five (5) BMW motorbike dealerships in metro phila. and then before you knew what happened there were none (zero). Thankfully we have Hermy's to our north and they have been a blessing, albeit a long haul for most of us. I think those who have been to MCC in the past will tell you they are decent people and their prices are more than fair especially on tires. I want to help support our one and only dealership in metro Phila. This morning I stopped in to discuss my thoughts with Bob Jones the proprietor @ MCC. Bob is a real good guy, he looked at me, paused, sat down at his desk and paused some more, looked me in the eyes, readjusted his chair, looked me straight in the eyes again and...............paused some more. Then he said, damn right we'll break that record and then some. I wasn't looking for any give-always. I just wanted a launching pad to get this ride off the ground, but he gathered up his top sales guy and said " Zeke.............this is what we are going to do" : We are going to open the dealership up on Sunday May 2nd for BMW riders and BMW riders only, we will have food, drinks, door prizes and 15% off any parts & accessories. So please help us break this record, pass the word to all your BMW riding friends. I will lay out a short 25 mile ride through Bucks county using only routes with the least resistance ( as few stops as possible) and I will try to have the assistance of local law enforcement at key intersections. We will return to the dealership after the ride for food, drinks, door prizes and discounted parts and tire kicking. Remember this record ride is strictly for BMW riders only! I want your thoughts and your feedback and pass on my email to your friends as I will need to keep track of all those participating. Also, Bob will need a head count for ordering the food. I will be very disappointed if we don't gather up at least 250 riders, so what do you say ! Todd Trumbore PS. Someone please be a good sport and lend Mike Evans one of your spare BMW's. :) From chrisjac at ptd.net Wed Mar 3 20:38:00 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:38:00 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] While flipping off a cop may be legal it might not besmart In-Reply-To: <4B8EC52E.1000004@ptd.net> References: <4B8E8E48.7000004@ptd.net> <8CC891BAF28B702-3580-A949@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> <4B8EC52E.1000004@ptd.net> Message-ID: <4B8EC8A8.2060000@ptd.net> Chris wrote: > Tom Cutter wrote: > >> <> I'd love to be on that jury and hear why the cop stopped the guy. >> Would be smart if the guy actually recorded everything with a >> camera/sound and then presents that evidence. >> >> >> That would be evidence all right. Evidence that the guy violated the >> law that prohibits videotaping or recording police officers in the >> performance of their duties. You see, that law got snuck under the >> door in many states after 9/11 in the guise of protecting undercover >> officers. In reality, most jurists believe that it was done as a >> delayed reaction to the Rodney King case and aftermath. >> > > Really? They can video or sound tape you, but you cant video or sound > tape them. I'm throwing the BS flag. FLAG THROWN. > > I wanna see where it says I cant video or sound tape them. In fact, a > little research shows that.......... the PA Supreme Court has > supposedly ruled in the past.........that the Commonwealth of PA Wiretap > Act does not apply to people who audiotape government officials in > public settings, where they have no "expectation of privacy." > > http://www.aclupa.org/pressroom/aclufilessuitonbehalfofpit.htm > > You're correct that I cant AUDIO record YOU or someone else in a > "private" setting without your consent to AUDIO taping, but it appears > that the govt officials are fair game as long as one is in "public". > The Wiretapping Law doesnt deal with VIDEO (sans audio) recording > regardless. Yeah, the cop might not like it, you might get arrested, > but tough shit. If you dont fight for your rights, who will? > > > Here is the PA Recording Law.... > > http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/pennsylvania/pennsylvania-recording-law > > > > Chris Jaccarino > > > > Additionally......... "But one Pennsylvania jurisdiction has reaffirmed individuals? right to videotape in public. Police in Spring City and East Vincent Township agreed to adopt a written policy confirming the legality of videotaping police while on duty. The policy was hammered out as part of a settlement between authorities and ACLU attorneys representing a Spring City man who had been arrested several times last year for following police and taping them." From Page 2 http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/01/12/police_fight_cellphone_recordings/?page=2 From chrisjac at ptd.net Wed Mar 3 20:41:23 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:41:23 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <4B8EC973.7030706@ptd.net> Todd Trumbore wrote: > Remember this record ride is strictly for BMW riders only! > > I want your thoughts and your feedback and pass on my email to your friends > as I will need to keep track of all those participating. Also, Bob will > need a head count for ordering the food. I will be very disappointed if we > don't gather up at least 250 riders, so what do you say ! > > Todd Trumbore > PS. Someone please be a good sport and lend Mike Evans one of your spare > BMW's. :) > > And what about Chris? Chris Jaccarino From jweiss11 at comcast.net Wed Mar 3 20:41:26 2010 From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:41:26 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: Fellow Riders, Challenge #2 We are going to open the dealership up on Sunday May 2nd for BMW riders and BMW riders only, we will have food, drinks, door prizes and 15% off any parts & accessories. So please help us break this record, pass the word to all your BMW riding friends. I will lay out a short 25 mile ride through Bucks county using only routes with the least resistance ( as few stops as possible) and I will try to have the assistance of local law enforcement at key intersections. We will return to the dealership after the ride for food, drinks, door prizes and discounted parts and tire kicking. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Todd, This sounds like fun. I am in. I'll also pass this along to the Philly Riders. There are plenty of BMW riders there. Thanks, Jack From jweiss11 at comcast.net Wed Mar 3 20:45:06 2010 From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:45:06 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <4B8EC973.7030706@ptd.net> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <4B8EC973.7030706@ptd.net> Message-ID: <0EC960AE26AF43E79FED080A94B1819A@jackde48df08c6> Todd Trumbore wrote: > Remember this record ride is strictly for BMW riders only! > > I want your thoughts and your feedback and pass on my email to your friends > as I will need to keep track of all those participating. Also, Bob will > need a head count for ordering the food. I will be very disappointed if we > don't gather up at least 250 riders, so what do you say ! > > Todd Trumbore > PS. Someone please be a good sport and lend Mike Evans one of your spare > BMW's. :) > > And what about Chris? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ride Bitch? Isn't that what Honda guys do? :-) Jack From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 20:48:45 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:48:45 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <49A4E0BF41DD4551AB3FD5B66FDDB76B@dellfe483b726d> > > Fellow Riders, Challenge #2 > > We are going to open the dealership up on Sunday May 2nd for BMW riders > and > BMW riders only, we will have food, drinks, door prizes and 15% off any > parts & accessories. > > So please help us break this record, pass the word to all your BMW riding > friends. I will lay out a short 25 mile ride through Bucks county using > only routes with the least resistance ( as few stops as possible) and I > will > try to have the assistance of local law enforcement at key intersections. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Hi Todd, > This sounds like fun. I am in. > I'll also pass this along to the Philly Riders. There are plenty of BMW > riders there. > Thanks, Jack Jack, Terrific and could someone please pass this on to New Sweden Riders in NJ. Todd > From chrisjac at ptd.net Wed Mar 3 20:53:15 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:53:15 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <0EC960AE26AF43E79FED080A94B1819A@jackde48df08c6> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <4B8EC973.7030706@ptd.net> <0EC960AE26AF43E79FED080A94B1819A@jackde48df08c6> Message-ID: <4B8ECC3B.1000004@ptd.net> Jack Weiss wrote: > Todd Trumbore wrote: > >> Remember this record ride is strictly for BMW riders only! >> >> I want your thoughts and your feedback and pass on my email to your >> > friends > >> as I will need to keep track of all those participating. Also, Bob will >> need a head count for ordering the food. I will be very disappointed if >> > we > >> don't gather up at least 250 riders, so what do you say ! >> >> Todd Trumbore >> PS. Someone please be a good sport and lend Mike Evans one of your spare >> BMW's. :) >> >> >> > > And what about Chris? > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Ride Bitch? Isn't that what Honda guys do? :-) > > Jack > > > > > Yeah right. Just for that, I'm going to video tape the event, WITH SOUND (you've been warned), and pass all the traffic infractions onto the local police. On second thought, why bother, BMWs rarely exceed the speed limit.......zing! Chris Jaccarino From Gary5410 at aol.com Wed Mar 3 20:55:16 2010 From: Gary5410 at aol.com (Gary5410 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:55:16 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record Message-ID: <29e1c.46a81745.38c026b4@aol.com> SH*T...........can't make the 2nd!!!! ............and neither can Ken Bruce....we will be sailing! Gary Christman "07 R 1200 GS Adventure <<> From Gary5410 at aol.com Wed Mar 3 20:56:23 2010 From: Gary5410 at aol.com (Gary5410 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:56:23 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record Message-ID: <29f76.6a1ac2e4.38c026f7@aol.com> From: Gary5410 at aol.com To: motorrader at verizon.net CC: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Sent: 3/3/2010 3:55:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: Re: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record SH*T...........can't make the 2nd!!!! ............and neither can Ken Bruce....we will be sailing! Gary Christman "07 R 1200 GS Adventure <<> From ephoet at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 20:57:13 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:57:13 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] While flipping off a cop may be legal it might not besmart In-Reply-To: <8CC891BAF28B702-3580-A949@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> References: <4B8E8E48.7000004@ptd.net> <8CC891BAF28B702-3580-A949@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Tom Cutter wrote: > > > That would be evidence all right. Evidence that the guy violated the > law that prohibits videotaping or recording police officers in the > performance of their duties. You see, that law got snuck under the door > in many states after 9/11 in the guise of protecting undercover > officers. In reality, most jurists believe that it was done as a > delayed reaction to the Rodney King case and aftermath. > > So if you want to videotape cops while they are arresting you, prepare > for an additional charge. Better check your state laws before you roll > the cameras. You could get a little extra "Action!" > > _______________________________________________ Laws vary by state, apparently there are some states where convictions have been upheld, such as Mass. Others are trying to limit the privacy law to carve out an exception for videotaping police at work. Funny, they don't worry about that "privacy" thing if the camera is mounted in the police vehicle..... http://www.sunherald.com/2010/02/04/1924336/bill-would-clarify-citizens-right.html The issue reminds me of the many limits Iran currently places on its citizens...... where the "publication of "unlawful and criminal material." is considered a crime. Erik H From motoedde2 at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 21:07:03 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:07:03 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] While flipping off a cop may be legal it might not besmart In-Reply-To: References: <4B8E8E48.7000004@ptd.net> <8CC891BAF28B702-3580-A949@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Erik Hoet wrote: > The issue reminds me of the many limits Iran currently places on its > citizens...... where the "publication of "unlawful and criminal > material." is considered a crime. Its not just Iran, but the US in some respects... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/01/07/dvd_jon_is_free_official/ Instead on dealing with the inadequacy of their encryption technology, the MPAA lawyers up. Why should someone who develops a tool be held accountable for its criminal use? Where's the NRA when you need them? -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 21:11:40 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:11:40 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: On 3/3/10, Todd Trumbore wrote: > friends. I will lay out a short 25 mile ride through Bucks county using > only routes with the least resistance ( as few stops as possible) and I will > Todd Trumbore > PS. Someone please be a good sport and lend Mike Evans one of your spare > BMW's. :) He can ride Jack's. I bet there are some corners that will require leaning on that 25 mile route. We don't want the official scribe to hurt himself. Give plenty of time before the ride for Dick to lay it out on his Etch a Sketch too! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From chrisjac at ptd.net Wed Mar 3 21:19:30 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:19:30 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] While flipping off a cop may be legal it might not besmart In-Reply-To: References: <4B8E8E48.7000004@ptd.net> <8CC891BAF28B702-3580-A949@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B8ED262.8090904@ptd.net> edde m wrote: > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Erik Hoet wrote: > > >> The issue reminds me of the many limits Iran currently places on its >> citizens...... where the "publication of "unlawful and criminal >> material." is considered a crime. >> > > > Its not just Iran, but the US in some respects... > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/01/07/dvd_jon_is_free_official/ > > Instead on dealing with the inadequacy of their encryption technology, > the MPAA lawyers up. Why should someone who develops a tool be held > accountable for its criminal use? Where's the NRA when you need them? > > "..........he was charged by the Norwegian Economic Crime Unit............" Oh brother. I guess that's another official entity we will have in the US shortly From jhw4458 at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 21:22:17 2010 From: jhw4458 at verizon.net (Clyde Jacobs) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:22:17 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Joke - Police & the Rectum Stretcher References: <17FB1CB1A7E74D648AF3BC271B65D0F0@DG75NW11> Message-ID: RECTUM STRETCHER While she was 'flying' down the road yesterday, a woman passed over a bridge only to find a cop with a radar gun on the other side lying in wait. The cop pulled her over, walked up to the car, with that classic patronizing smirk we all know and love, asked, 'What's your hurry?' To which she replied, 'I'm late for work.' 'Oh yeah,' said the cop, 'what do you do?' 'I'm a rectum stretcher,' she responded. The cop stammerred, 'A what?............ 'A rectum stretcher!' 'And just what does a rectum stretcher do?' 'Well,' she said, 'I start by inserting one finger in the rectum, then work my way up to two fingers, then three, then four, then with my whole hand in I work from side to side until I can get both hands in, and then I slowly but surely stretch it, until it's about 6 feet' 'And just what the hell do you do with a 6 foot asshole?' he asked ' You give him a radar gun and park him behind a bridge...' Traffic Ticket $95.00 Court Costs $45.00 Look on the Cop's Face....... PRICELESS For everything else, there's MasterCard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100303/c7551e29/attachment.html From bergman at panix.com Wed Mar 3 21:36:56 2010 From: bergman at panix.com (bergman at panix.com) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:36:56 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] way OT ... legality of videotaping police (Was: Re: While flipping off a cop may be legal it might not besmart) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:23:10 EST." <4B8EC52E.1000004@ptd.net> References: <4B8EC52E.1000004@ptd.net> <4B8E8E48.7000004@ptd.net> <8CC891BAF28B702-3580-A949@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1090.1267652216@localhost> In the message dated: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:23:10 EST, The pithy ruminations from Chris on were : => Tom Cutter wrote: => > => > < > I'd love to be on that jury and hear why the cop stopped the guy. => > Would be smart if the guy actually recorded everything with a => > camera/sound and then presents that evidence. >> => > => > That would be evidence all right. Evidence that the guy violated the => > law that prohibits videotaping or recording police officers in the => > performance of their duties. You see, that law got snuck under the => > door in many states after 9/11 in the guise of protecting undercover => > officers. In reality, most jurists believe that it was done as a => > delayed reaction to the Rodney King case and aftermath. => => Really? They can video or sound tape you, but you cant video or sound => tape them. I'm throwing the BS flag. FLAG THROWN. Throw the flag a bit harder: http://fnhp.com/thelist/Nashua-Gannon_Karlis.html http://media.nashuatelegraph.com/assets/search_warrant.pdf http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/RSA/html/LVIII/570-A/570-A-2.htm That's New Hampshire...maybe if you don't go to the "Live Free or Die" state it'll be OK. Wait a second: http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/01/12/police_fight_cellphone_recordings/ http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202441877670&rss=newswire Hmmm...happening in Boston too....maybe you need to avoid video recording police in all of New England. => => I wanna see where it says I cant video or sound tape them. In fact, a => little research shows that.......... the PA Supreme Court has That PA law. Just don't travel outside the state and you'll be OK. Oh, wait, maybe it's not so good in PA either: http://citypaper.net/articles/2010/02/18/disturbing-the-peace (still photographer arrested for taking photos of police). Or: http://blog.pennlive.com/patriotnews/2007/06/brian_d_kelly_didnt_think.html Good thing that arrest was thrown out, and the county decided that it's OK for citizens to film police...Bad thing that the same action results in arrests 2 years later in other parts of PA: http://www.aclupa.org/pressroom/aclufilessuitonbehalfofpit.htm (I don't know the outcome of the Federal case). Mark => => => Chris Jaccarino From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Mar 3 21:55:18 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:55:18 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record Message-ID: <2eb1d.245ffe43.38c034c6@aol.com> In a message dated 3/3/2010 3:27:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: I want your thoughts and your feedback and pass on my email to your friends as I will need to keep track of all those participating. Also, Bob will need a head count for ordering the food. I will be very disappointed if we don't gather up at least 250 riders, so what do you say ! Todd Trumbore PS. Someone please be a good sport and lend Mike Evans one of your spare BMW's. :) =================================================== I'm in and I can lend Mike a bike. Roddy Irwin, Arborist of Berks County '92 K 75 RT '85 R 80 RT '74 CB 200 T and assorted dirt bikes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100303/365403ca/attachment.html From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Mar 3 21:56:58 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:56:58 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record Message-ID: <2ecfb.5ced5331.38c0352a@aol.com> In a message dated 3/3/2010 3:41:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, chrisjac at ptd.net writes: And what about Chris? ===================================== I'll lend him one too. Roddy Irwin, Arborist of Berks County '92 K 75 RT '85 R 80 RT '74 CB 200 T and assorted dirt bikes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100303/b5d2c0a7/attachment.html From tpcutter at aol.com Wed Mar 3 22:20:22 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:20:22 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] way OT ... legality of videotaping police (Was: Re: While flipping off a cop may be legal it might not besmart) In-Reply-To: <1090.1267652216@localhost> References: <4B8EC52E.1000004@ptd.net><4B8E8E48.7000004@ptd.net><8CC891BAF28B702-3580-A949@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> <1090.1267652216@localhost> Message-ID: <8CC8936D9D6648F-4F6C-3470@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> <> Nah, Chris threw the BS flag, so it must be BS. I couldn't have had lunch last Sunday with a PA state trooper who told me about arresting two college girls who were recording a traffic stop with their cell phones. Not if Chris says so! Go get 'em, Chris. Let us know how it feels when the police, then the courts, stick that camera up your ass. Sadly, our rights are gone, not going. Everybody was busy looking for cheaper tires on the Internet. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From chrisjac at ptd.net Wed Mar 3 22:23:30 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:23:30 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] way OT ... legality of videotaping police (Was: Re: While flipping off a cop may be legal it might not besmart) In-Reply-To: <1090.1267652216@localhost> References: <4B8EC52E.1000004@ptd.net> <4B8E8E48.7000004@ptd.net> <8CC891BAF28B702-3580-A949@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> <1090.1267652216@localhost> Message-ID: <4B8EE162.9090604@ptd.net> bergman at panix.com wrote: > In the message dated: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:23:10 EST, > The pithy ruminations from Chris on > were > : > => Tom Cutter wrote: > => > > => > < => > I'd love to be on that jury and hear why the cop stopped the guy. > => > Would be smart if the guy actually recorded everything with a > => > camera/sound and then presents that evidence. >> > => > > => > That would be evidence all right. Evidence that the guy violated the > => > law that prohibits videotaping or recording police officers in the > => > performance of their duties. You see, that law got snuck under the > => > door in many states after 9/11 in the guise of protecting undercover > => > officers. In reality, most jurists believe that it was done as a > => > delayed reaction to the Rodney King case and aftermath. > => > => Really? They can video or sound tape you, but you cant video or sound > => tape them. I'm throwing the BS flag. FLAG THROWN. > > > Throw the flag a bit harder: > > http://fnhp.com/thelist/Nashua-Gannon_Karlis.html > http://media.nashuatelegraph.com/assets/search_warrant.pdf > http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/RSA/html/LVIII/570-A/570-A-2.htm > > > That's New Hampshire...maybe if you don't go to the "Live Free or Die" state > it'll be OK. > > Wait a second: > > http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/01/12/police_fight_cellphone_recordings/ > http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202441877670&rss=newswire > > Hmmm...happening in Boston too....maybe you need to avoid video recording > police in all of New England. > > => > => I wanna see where it says I cant video or sound tape them. In fact, a > => little research shows that.......... the PA Supreme Court has > > That PA law. Just don't travel outside the state and you'll be OK. > > Oh, wait, maybe it's not so good in PA either: > > http://citypaper.net/articles/2010/02/18/disturbing-the-peace > > (still photographer arrested for taking photos of police). > > Or: > > http://blog.pennlive.com/patriotnews/2007/06/brian_d_kelly_didnt_think.html > > Good thing that arrest was thrown out, and the county decided that it's OK for > citizens to film police...Bad thing that the same action results in arrests 2 > years later in other parts of PA: > > http://www.aclupa.org/pressroom/aclufilessuitonbehalfofpit.htm > > (I don't know the outcome of the Federal case). > > > Mark > > => > => > => Chris Jaccarino > > > > Bottom line, police dont want to give up anything that lessens their powers...whether their powers are real or perceived. It's only going to get worse in the future if you dont stand up for your rights now. Up until a couple of years ago, I was always respective of police during a stop...inside car lights on, windows open, hands on steering wheel and asking for permission before I moved to get something like my papers. Then I got stopped one day pulling a trailer with my truck (for work) and I knew I was going to be reamed with some BS charge....I was! The cop was in front of me along side the road pulled over and I told my passenger to "sit and watch" as he came up behind us as we rolled past.. The cop ticketed me for not having the trailer safety chains crossed. When I questioned him how and when he saw that...he said in his review mirror when I made the turn...some 500-600 feet away from where he was sitting on side of road. I told him that was a nice BS superman vision claim and got my ticket. No more respect to cops after that outright lie. Turned out, they were stopping ALL trailers that week just for that inspection on safety chains. Landscapers got nailed big time. Chris From hgantz at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 22:29:52 2010 From: hgantz at verizon.net (Harold Gantz) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:29:52 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <49A4E0BF41DD4551AB3FD5B66FDDB76B@dellfe483b726d> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <49A4E0BF41DD4551AB3FD5B66FDDB76B@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <002501cabb21$0b972490$22c56db0$@net> > > Fellow Riders, Challenge #2 > > > > We are going to open the dealership up on Sunday May 2nd for BMW riders > > and > > BMW riders only, we will have food, drinks, door prizes and 15% off any > > parts & accessories. > > > > So please help us break this record, pass the word to all your BMW > riding > > friends. I will lay out a short 25 mile ride through Bucks county using > > only routes with the least resistance ( as few stops as possible) and I > > will > > try to have the assistance of local law enforcement at key > intersections. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Hi Todd, > > This sounds like fun. I am in. > > I'll also pass this along to the Philly Riders. There are plenty of BMW > > riders there. > > Thanks, Jack > > > Jack, > Terrific and could someone please pass this on to New Sweden Riders in NJ. Done. -- Harold Gantz hgantz at verizon.net New Sweden BMW Riders New Jersey Shore BMW Riders From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 22:30:02 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:30:02 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] way OT ... legality of videotaping police (Was: Re: While flipping off a cop may be legal it might not besmart) In-Reply-To: <8CC8936D9D6648F-4F6C-3470@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> References: <4B8EC52E.1000004@ptd.net> <4B8E8E48.7000004@ptd.net> <8CC891BAF28B702-3580-A949@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> <1090.1267652216@localhost> <8CC8936D9D6648F-4F6C-3470@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 3/3/10, Tom Cutter wrote: > < http://fnhp.com/thelist/Nashua-Gannon_Karlis.html > http://media.nashuatelegraph.com/assets/search_warrant.pdf > > http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/RSA/html/LVIII/570-A/570-A-2.htmThat's > > New Hampshire...maybe if you don't go to the "Live Free or Die" state > it'll be OK.Wait a second: > http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/01/12/police_fight_cellphone_recordings/ > > > http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202441877670&rss=newswireHmmm...happening > > in Boston too....maybe you need to avoid video recording police in all > of New England.>> > > > > Nah, Chris threw the BS flag, so it must be BS. I couldn't have had > lunch last Sunday with a PA state trooper who told me about arresting > two college girls who were recording a traffic stop with their cell > phones. Not if Chris says so! > > Go get 'em, Chris. Let us know how it feels when the police, then the > courts, stick that camera up your ass. > > Sadly, our rights are gone, not going. There are grumpy people out there. NV has been a hotbed. TX just showed up on the radar. I predict more due to stupidity amoungst the governors. :(:(:( "Interesting times, very interesting". -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From Doug at pencader.com Wed Mar 3 22:54:17 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:54:17 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <042601cabb24$74481be0$5cd853a0$@com> Todd wrote; >>> snips > I immediately said to myself " This record is beatable". You bet. >>> significant snippage > Then he said, damn right we'll break that record and then some. That's right - remember, Jack'll get credit for two! >>> a few more snips > We are going to open the dealership up on Sunday May 2nd for BMW riders and BMW riders only, we > will have food, drinks, door prizes and 15% off any parts & accessories. Deutschland uber alles!!! >>> still more snips > Remember this record ride is strictly for BMW riders only! >>> final snips > PS. Someone please be a good sport and lend Mike Evans one of your spare BMW's. :) Mike who?? Great idea, great job in taking the initiative. I'm sure Rogers G. is "listening" and would be glad to drag the MARS contingent into the fray. This'll make a great distraction until the great May riding weather begins! Thanks again, Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From tpcutter at aol.com Wed Mar 3 23:15:59 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:15:59 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <4B8EC973.7030706@ptd.net> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <4B8EC973.7030706@ptd.net> Message-ID: <8CC893E9EA082FA-4F6C-42AB@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> <<> Todd Trumbore> PS. Someone please be a good sport and lend Mike Evans one of your spare > BMW's. :)>> And what about Chris?Chris Jaccarino>> He'll be in the back of a police car with a camera up his butt. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From Ducdude at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 23:33:15 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:33:15 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <2511ED806D3645BBAE24382A4F85D8F5@heilveil5e3fdd> OK I am in.... I have 2 BMWs so if there is a rider needing a bike I MAY be able to be convinced to lone one out if they can be trusted.. Duc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Trumbore" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:26 PM Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record > Fellow Riders, Challenge #2 > > I'm always behind in my reading and last night I was catching up while on > my > break and paging through the January issue of the MOA ON and stumbled upon > Karol Patzer's article "BMW Record Ride". > > I couldn't believe what I was reading, so I had to go back and re-read the > second paragraph. You have to be kidding...... 241 BMW riders set a new > Guinness Book Record from Grass Roots BMW in Cape Girardeau, Missouri. > > I immediately said to myself " This record is beatable". In fact if we > can't beat this record I will eat my hat. I started to plan the logistics > when I realized that this would be a terrific kick-off and promotion for > our > new BMW dealership, Montgomeryville Cycle Center. Anybody who has lived > in > this area for some time knows that we used to have five (5) BMW motorbike > dealerships in metro phila. and then before you knew what happened there > were none (zero). Thankfully we have Hermy's to our north and they have > been a blessing, albeit a long haul for most of us. I think those who > have > been to MCC in the past will tell you they are decent people and their > prices are more than fair especially on tires. I want to help support our > one and only dealership in metro Phila. > > This morning I stopped in to discuss my thoughts with Bob Jones the > proprietor @ MCC. Bob is a real good guy, he looked at me, paused, sat > down > at his desk and paused some more, looked me in the eyes, readjusted his > chair, looked me straight in the eyes again and...............paused some > more. Then he said, damn right we'll break that record and then some. > > I wasn't looking for any give-always. I just wanted a launching pad to > get > this ride off the ground, but he gathered up his top sales guy and said " > Zeke.............this is what we are going to do" : We are going to open > the dealership up on Sunday May 2nd for BMW riders and BMW riders only, we > will have food, drinks, door prizes and 15% off any parts & accessories. > > So please help us break this record, pass the word to all your BMW riding > friends. I will lay out a short 25 mile ride through Bucks county using > only routes with the least resistance ( as few stops as possible) and I > will > try to have the assistance of local law enforcement at key intersections. > We will return to the dealership after the ride for food, drinks, door > prizes and discounted parts and tire kicking. > > Remember this record ride is strictly for BMW riders only! > > I want your thoughts and your feedback and pass on my email to your > friends > as I will need to keep track of all those participating. Also, Bob will > need a head count for ordering the food. I will be very disappointed if > we > don't gather up at least 250 riders, so what do you say ! > > Todd Trumbore > PS. Someone please be a good sport and lend Mike Evans one of your spare > BMW's. :) > > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From chrisjac at ptd.net Wed Mar 3 23:28:57 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:28:57 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <8CC893E9EA082FA-4F6C-42AB@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <4B8EC973.7030706@ptd.net> <8CC893E9EA082FA-4F6C-42AB@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B8EF0B9.5020108@ptd.net> Tom Cutter wrote: > > <<> Todd Trumbore> PS. Someone please be a good sport and lend Mike > Evans one of your spare > BMW's. :)>> And what about Chris?Chris > Jaccarino>> > > He'll be in the back of a police car with a camera up his butt. > Its' a GoPro HD unit I have now...it could probably fit a lot easier than a handicam. Chris Jaccarino From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 23:41:48 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:41:48 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <4B8EC973.7030706@ptd.net> Message-ID: <38505EB2C4904601B1906E85AEBDE246@dellfe483b726d> > Todd Trumbore wrote: >> Remember this record ride is strictly for BMW riders only! >> >> I want your thoughts and your feedback and pass on my email to your >> friends as I will need to keep track of all those participating. Also, >> Bob will need a head count for ordering the food. I will be very >> disappointed if we don't gather up at least 250 riders, so what do you >> say ! >> >> Todd Trumbore >> PS. Someone please be a good sport and lend Mike Evans one of your spare >> BMW's. :) >> >> > And what about Chris? > Chris Jaccarino Ooops, will someone please lend Chris a bmw with wheelie bars :) From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 23:43:18 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:43:18 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <2eb1d.245ffe43.38c034c6@aol.com> Message-ID: <9114CF9057D04D68851E2BA9751F9649@dellfe483b726d> I want your thoughts and your feedback and pass on my email to your friends as I will need to keep track of all those participating. Also, Bob will need a head count for ordering the food. I will be very disappointed if we don't gather up at least 250 riders, so what do you say ! Todd Trumbore PS. Someone please be a good sport and lend Mike Evans one of your spare BMW's. :) =================================================== I'm in and I can lend Mike a bike Roddy Irwin, Arborist of Berks County Way to go Roddy ! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100303/7130237f/attachment.html From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 23:45:04 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:45:04 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <49A4E0BF41DD4551AB3FD5B66FDDB76B@dellfe483b726d> <002501cabb21$0b972490$22c56db0$@net> Message-ID: <92EDF3EED9BF4253B115788BB5C33907@dellfe483b726d> >> Jack, >> Terrific and could someone please pass this on to New Sweden Riders in >> NJ. > > > Done.> -- > Harold Gantz > hgantz at verizon.net > New Sweden BMW Riders Thanks so much Harold ! Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 3 23:47:22 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:47:22 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <042601cabb24$74481be0$5cd853a0$@com> Message-ID: <0BEFE89815894B9B90FECC4D0552E975@dellfe483b726d> > Great idea, great job in taking the initiative. I'm sure Rogers G. is > "listening" and would be glad to drag the MARS contingent into the fray. > > This'll make a great distraction until the great May riding weather > begins! > Thanks again, > > Doug > '01 1150 GSP > Bear, DE Doug, Please bring all of DE with you. Thanks Todd From Ducdude at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 00:07:48 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:07:48 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <2511ED806D3645BBAE24382A4F85D8F5@heilveil5e3fdd> Message-ID: <806875700ACF4D8EB5DBA9507E8DBCE7@heilveil5e3fdd> Sorry "loan" one out (not lone)...Before Cutter chews off my head.. Duc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Ducdude" To: "Todd Trumbore" Cc: "MAC-PAC" Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record > OK I am in.... > > I have 2 BMWs so if there is a rider needing a bike I MAY be able to be > convinced to lone one out if they can be trusted.. > > Duc > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Todd Trumbore" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:26 PM > Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record > > >> Fellow Riders, Challenge #2 >> >> I'm always behind in my reading and last night I was catching up while on >> my >> break and paging through the January issue of the MOA ON and stumbled >> upon >> Karol Patzer's article "BMW Record Ride". >> >> I couldn't believe what I was reading, so I had to go back and re-read >> the >> second paragraph. You have to be kidding...... 241 BMW riders set a new >> Guinness Book Record from Grass Roots BMW in Cape Girardeau, Missouri. >> >> I immediately said to myself " This record is beatable". In fact if we >> can't beat this record I will eat my hat. I started to plan the >> logistics >> when I realized that this would be a terrific kick-off and promotion for >> our >> new BMW dealership, Montgomeryville Cycle Center. Anybody who has lived >> in >> this area for some time knows that we used to have five (5) BMW motorbike >> dealerships in metro phila. and then before you knew what happened there >> were none (zero). Thankfully we have Hermy's to our north and they have >> been a blessing, albeit a long haul for most of us. I think those who >> have >> been to MCC in the past will tell you they are decent people and their >> prices are more than fair especially on tires. I want to help support >> our >> one and only dealership in metro Phila. >> >> This morning I stopped in to discuss my thoughts with Bob Jones the >> proprietor @ MCC. Bob is a real good guy, he looked at me, paused, sat >> down >> at his desk and paused some more, looked me in the eyes, readjusted his >> chair, looked me straight in the eyes again and...............paused >> some >> more. Then he said, damn right we'll break that record and then some. >> >> I wasn't looking for any give-always. I just wanted a launching pad to >> get >> this ride off the ground, but he gathered up his top sales guy and said " >> Zeke.............this is what we are going to do" : We are going to open >> the dealership up on Sunday May 2nd for BMW riders and BMW riders only, >> we >> will have food, drinks, door prizes and 15% off any parts & accessories. >> >> So please help us break this record, pass the word to all your BMW riding >> friends. I will lay out a short 25 mile ride through Bucks county using >> only routes with the least resistance ( as few stops as possible) and I >> will >> try to have the assistance of local law enforcement at key intersections. >> We will return to the dealership after the ride for food, drinks, door >> prizes and discounted parts and tire kicking. >> >> Remember this record ride is strictly for BMW riders only! >> >> I want your thoughts and your feedback and pass on my email to your >> friends >> as I will need to keep track of all those participating. Also, Bob will >> need a head count for ordering the food. I will be very disappointed if >> we >> don't gather up at least 250 riders, so what do you say ! >> >> Todd Trumbore >> PS. Someone please be a good sport and lend Mike Evans one of your spare >> BMW's. :) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mac-pac-l mailing list >> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com >> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l >> > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 00:17:11 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:17:11 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <806875700ACF4D8EB5DBA9507E8DBCE7@heilveil5e3fdd> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <2511ED806D3645BBAE24382A4F85D8F5@heilveil5e3fdd> <806875700ACF4D8EB5DBA9507E8DBCE7@heilveil5e3fdd> Message-ID: On 3/3/10, Eric Ducdude wrote: > Sorry "loan" one out (not lone)...Before Cutter chews off my head.. He may have to get there first for NOT TRIMMING. I don't see why he would be upset. The rest of us are used to you changing your break fluid. While you got higher edjumacation and drained the Engineering out, the spelling part stuck around. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From rsorens at comcast.net Thu Mar 4 00:16:46 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:16:46 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <4B8ECC3B.1000004@ptd.net> Message-ID: <4C85C72F172C4121B74480A6C5C7AB14@Tekki> >>>>> I'm going to video tape the event, WITH SOUND (you've been warned), and pass all the traffic infractions onto the local police. On second thought, why bother, BMWs rarely exceed the speed limit.......zing! >>>>> Talk about the BS flag! I'll throw it on this one.....Seems to me, I remember a day when Chris ADMITTED having trouble keeping up with Linda on her GS and Chris on his Goldwing! DOH! Rick From jaburke4 at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 00:36:15 2010 From: jaburke4 at verizon.net (John Burkhauser) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:36:15 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Guinness Punch In-Reply-To: <10984829.1267638867068.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <10984829.1267638867068.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Ya all should go up to Scranton. Its an official holiday!!! The have count downs and works going on up to the blessed day. Usually a party and lots of wandering drunks. John Burkhauser jaburke4 at verizon.net From jaburke4 at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 00:41:50 2010 From: jaburke4 at verizon.net (John Burkhauser) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:41:50 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <2ecfb.5ced5331.38c0352a@aol.com> References: <2ecfb.5ced5331.38c0352a@aol.com> Message-ID: I'm confused. All we need is lots of BMW's for some kind of record? John Burkhauser jaburke4 at verizon.net From jerrycline at hotmail.com Thu Mar 4 00:54:10 2010 From: jerrycline at hotmail.com (Jerry Cline) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:54:10 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Guinness Punch In-Reply-To: References: <10984829.1267638867068.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>, Message-ID: I can second that. I done SPD in Chicago, Boston and NYC and Scranton beats them all. You will need a hotel room or a designated driver. Jerry Cline 610 457 5757 mailto:jerrycline at hotmail.com > From: jaburke4 at verizon.net > To: darkside at ix.netcom.com > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:36:15 -0500 > CC: mac-pac-l at jtan.com > Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] OT Guinness Punch > > Ya all should go up to Scranton. Its an official holiday!!! The have > count downs and works going on up to the blessed day. Usually a party > and lots of wandering drunks. > John Burkhauser > jaburke4 at verizon.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From me at billryder.com Thu Mar 4 00:59:35 2010 From: me at billryder.com (Bill Ryder) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:59:35 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: I'm in. Please keep me in the loop. -Bill On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > Fellow Riders, ?Challenge #2 > TRIM From gary5410 at aol.com Thu Mar 4 01:29:43 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:29:43 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <29e1c.46a81745.38c026b4@aol.com> References: <29e1c.46a81745.38c026b4@aol.com> Message-ID: <8CC89514D28764F-61F8-2203@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com> I THINK A DIFFERENT DATE WOULD BE BETTER! :-) If I can't be there.......maybe someone should ride my bike! I hate to see my bike miss the event! Gary Christman "07 R 1200 GS Adventure <<-----Original Message----- From: Gary5410 at aol.com To: motorrader at verizon.net Cc: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Sent: Wed, Mar 3, 2010 3:55 pm Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record SH*T...........can't make the 2nd!!!! ............and neither can Ken Bruce....we will be sailing! Gary Christman "07 R 1200 GS Adventure Sunday May 2nd >> From corey.lyba at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 01:33:59 2010 From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:33:59 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] US Daredevil Smashes Harley Jump Record (and nuts) In-Reply-To: References: <74d2fbe11003021556x1b7ac071n33ee8bd5ac3e57dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Seth Enslow is a legend in the motocross stupid stunt realm. He, in many peoples opinion, holds the record for the longest non ramp jump in the sand dunes. Over 300ft. It was featured in one of his videos from the mid 90's. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF4YwBO56uQ His videos were on the same lines as Jackass, but way before them. And of course, everything was about bikes. From brian at whatever2k.com Thu Mar 4 02:21:55 2010 From: brian at whatever2k.com (Brian Burdette) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:21:55 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] While flipping off a cop may be legal it might not besmart In-Reply-To: <1B61253C2D0A43FDB5B3834F047D8706@9200c> References: <4B8E8E48.7000004@ptd.net> <1B61253C2D0A43FDB5B3834F047D8706@9200c> Message-ID: <4B8F1943.80600@whatever2k.com> >> Either that or it's simply brilliant if he gets awarded damages. I'd love >> to be on that jury and hear why the cop stopped the guy. Would be smart >> if the guy actually recorded everything with a camera/sound and then >> presents that evidence. > > snipGranted, he may take great joy from taunting > police, taking chances on being on the receiving end of physical violence, > working through the legal system .... snip "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." -- Ayn Rand. Sure sounds a lot like present day America to me. We can either fight it and make it stop, or we can regret it later. Sounds like what this guy is doing is a step in the right direction to fight it. -- Brian Burdette -- brian at whatever2k dot com -- Pleasant Hill MO, USA From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Mar 4 02:24:44 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:24:44 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <4B8ED39C.32228.4B1F6D8@localhost> > Fellow Riders, Challenge #2 > > Snip... > This morning I stopped in to discuss my thoughts with Bob Jones the > proprietor @ MCC. Bob is a real good guy, he looked at me, paused, sat down > at his desk and paused some more, looked me in the eyes, readjusted his > chair, looked me straight in the eyes again and...............paused some > more. Then he said, damn right we'll break that record and then some. > > I wasn't looking for any give-always. I just wanted a launching pad to get > this ride off the ground, but he gathered up his top sales guy and said " > Zeke.............this is what we are going to do" : We are going to open > the dealership up on Sunday May 2nd for BMW riders and BMW riders only, we > will have food, drinks, door prizes and 15% off any parts & accessories. > > So please help us break this record, pass the word to all your BMW riding > friends. Since it is not on a racing day, I am in! Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From Doug at pencader.com Thu Mar 4 04:04:55 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:04:55 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <0BEFE89815894B9B90FECC4D0552E975@dellfe483b726d> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <042601cabb24$74481be0$5cd853a0$@com> <0BEFE89815894B9B90FECC4D0552E975@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <043a01cabb4f$d9af3830$8d0da890$@com> Todd wrote; >>> snips >> Great idea, great job in taking the initiative. I'm sure Rogers G. is >> "listening" and would be glad to drag the MARS contingent into the fray. >> >> This'll make a great distraction until the great May riding weather >> begins! >> Thanks again, > >> Doug >> '01 1150 GSP >> Bear, DE > Doug, Please bring all of DE with you. Thanks > Todd >>> end snips Todd, No problem . . . I'll personally guarantee that all three of us will be there (right Jim?, right Rogers?) =; ^) All seriousness aside, this should be a lot of fun! Thanks, Todd. Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From mrmevans at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 04:36:35 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:36:35 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: OK Go does Rube Goldberg Message-ID: <8296f6de1003032036p5e393644t341cb48312eb24a8@mail.gmail.com> OK, sending this along because we have both music fans and geeks on the list (like me) who get into this kind of sh!t. Music Video from OK Go (bands actually still make videos???) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qybUFnY7Y8w SFW. Enjoy. Can we build one at Earle's. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From rcavalie at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 05:08:15 2010 From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:08:15 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Adjusting mirrors when driving your cage Message-ID: <001001cabb58$b2bae770$1830b650$@net> Some may find this useful: http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q1/how_to_adjust_your_mirrors_to_avoi d_blind_spots-feature Rick Cavaliere From Braveirwin at aol.com Thu Mar 4 12:24:02 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:24:02 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hey, Todd Byrum........ Message-ID: <4f9c5.499ab7ee.38c10062@aol.com> .....when is gassing day again? Roddy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jim Robinson From dbcase at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 13:02:25 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:02:25 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <4B8EC973.7030706@ptd.net> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <4B8EC973.7030706@ptd.net> Message-ID: <27a2451f1003040502xc35e901idb10549a8f2ba556@mail.gmail.com> > > Remember this record ride is strictly for BMW riders only! > > > > < > > > > And what about Chris? > --------------------------------------------------------------- I'm in. :) Chris, ride your 'wing down to my house. You and Melinda can take the RS. Dave Case Lansdale, PA From piechota at argolis.org Thu Mar 4 13:20:32 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:20:32 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Adjusting mirrors when driving your cage In-Reply-To: <001001cabb58$b2bae770$1830b650$@net> References: <001001cabb58$b2bae770$1830b650$@net> Message-ID: <4B8FB3A0.5030807@argolis.org> Richard A. Cavaliere wrote: > Some may find this useful: > > http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q1/how_to_adjust_your_mirrors_to_avoi > d_blind_spots-feature It really does work. I kinda stumbled onto it (independently, I think) several years ago and now that I'm used to it, it's great. I can see cars I pass move from side window to side mirror to rear-view mirror never losing sight of the car. As recently as a few weeks ago I said to myself I need to write this up and share it, C&D beat me to the punch. :) From piechota at argolis.org Thu Mar 4 13:38:58 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:38:58 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT, I guess: speaking of goats... In-Reply-To: <1f13c3621002280758v669b762al788a67be1ab4e48c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f13c3621002280758v669b762al788a67be1ab4e48c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B8FB7F2.1080406@argolis.org> Rogers George wrote: > I'm reading a book about them. Well, about a NYC guy who decided to > raise them. Pretty good. Review of it on my blog. There's some crazy Hipster fad of being 'Urban Farmers' right now, perhaps inspired by the book. Hipsters try to raise chickens and whatnot in the common areas of their apartment buildings. From piechota at argolis.org Thu Mar 4 13:45:10 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:45:10 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Jazz band......you're going to love this ! In-Reply-To: References: <45A69945E89C4FC1AA6291EE4BE0789D@dellfe483b726d> <4B8A7E65.5029.129D184E@localhost> Message-ID: <4B8FB966.4010406@argolis.org> Todd Trumbore wrote: > Joe, > I'm glad you enjoyed the Sidecar Crazy Jazz Band video. > > Applications are now being accepted to form an east coast, Mid-Atlantic > version of the Sidecar Crazy Jazz Band. Oh, a fellow who plays the cymbals > has already applied, others more than welcome. That includes Rick, Bill, > Jeff and others............don't be shy ! > > We have a couple of Aussies that graciously volunteered for background > vocals :) Man, if I weren't so out of practice on bass (and never was all that good on guitar), and had a sidecar, I'd be in! :) From piechota at argolis.org Thu Mar 4 13:48:51 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:48:51 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Jazz band......you're going to love this ! In-Reply-To: <9486B86367574DD48BBBC808539CACDF@dellfe483b726d> References: <91395.7b2a96a9.38bc748d@aol.com> <9486B86367574DD48BBBC808539CACDF@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <4B8FBA43.6060709@argolis.org> Todd Trumbore wrote: > Jeff Moran.........................Bass Guitar Curses, missed my window. :) From rogers.george at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 13:53:27 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:53:27 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <043a01cabb4f$d9af3830$8d0da890$@com> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <042601cabb24$74481be0$5cd853a0$@com> <0BEFE89815894B9B90FECC4D0552E975@dellfe483b726d> <043a01cabb4f$d9af3830$8d0da890$@com> Message-ID: <1f13c3621003040553m1be9c694xd0a571cd2217ac6c@mail.gmail.com> > > ... > >> Great idea, great job in taking the initiative. I'm sure Rogers G. is > >> "listening" and would be glad to drag the MARS contingent into the fray. > >> > > Piece of Cake. I'll bring it up at the March 13 meeting in the 896 diner, which you're all invited to, btw, especially if someone wants to plug the event. It'll get me off my duff and back to fixing the fairing so I can ride. If I get the goat fence finished... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100304/9913b4fa/attachment.html From piechota at argolis.org Thu Mar 4 13:59:39 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:59:39 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The "choking game" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B8FBCCB.10908@argolis.org> Brian Curry wrote: > This is a NOT GOOD "Friend of a Friend" story. A friend's friend lost > a nephew due to the "choking game". Oh, and one moniker for it is > "Funky Chicken" which I don't think is related at all to Rubber > Chickens at the Racing Garage. It's kinda old news, kids were doing this when I was in high school. Usually not alone though, at parties. There's nothing new under the sun. From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Thu Mar 4 14:11:05 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <27a2451f1003040502xc35e901idb10549a8f2ba556@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11613580.11478821267711865081.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I am in. Hmmm, the RS or R75? Have to think on that one. Of course if someone is still in need of a BMW you can borrow one of mine. Just let me know. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Thu Mar 4 14:08:42 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT, I guess: speaking of goats... In-Reply-To: <4B8FB7F2.1080406@argolis.org> Message-ID: <1708263026.11477401267711722250.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >There's some crazy Hipster fad of being 'Urban Farmers' right now, >perhaps inspired by the book. Hipsters try to raise chickens and >whatnot in the common areas of their apartment buildings. I know some places have laws against keeping "livestock" in residential areas. We were allowed to keep our pet pig "Chops" in Churchville PA (Upper Southampton township) only because he was a pet, and not for eating. Our neighbors in Manassas, VA had to get rid of their chickens because neighbors (not us) complained about the rooster crowing and such. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From chrisjac at ptd.net Thu Mar 4 14:20:53 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:20:53 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <4C85C72F172C4121B74480A6C5C7AB14@Tekki> References: <4C85C72F172C4121B74480A6C5C7AB14@Tekki> Message-ID: <4B8FC1C5.5040802@ptd.net> Rick Sorensen wrote: > I'm going to video tape the event, WITH SOUND (you've been warned), and pass > all the traffic infractions onto the local police. On second thought, why > bother, BMWs rarely exceed the speed limit.......zing! > > > Talk about the BS flag! > > I'll throw it on this one.....Seems to me, I remember a day when Chris > ADMITTED having trouble keeping up with Linda on her GS and Chris on his > Goldwing! > > DOH! > > > Rick > > > > Ouch, touche and all that, but can Linda wheelie? Yes, the above is the truth, but we had wet roads. I absolutely hate rain and/or wet roads when I am riding 740 lbs + of dry weight motorcycle (e.g., my ST1300 and Goldwing both qualify). I admit it, I am slow as molasses rider on portly bikes in the wet because once they start moving in undesired directions, they become potentially hazardous to your health.....and I know that feeling......when was the last time you slid around a right hand turn and had to make a decision either to bail or pass oncoming cars along their passenger doors in their shoulder of the road while still moving at a decent clip? But hey, we can always do another ride where for once I get to ride a bike 300 lbs....or even 100 lbs ....less than what you guys/gals ride and see what happens...spring is coming and my Speed Triple awaits. Chris Jaccarino From mmehalik at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 14:27:19 2010 From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:27:19 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <4B8FC1C5.5040802@ptd.net> References: <4C85C72F172C4121B74480A6C5C7AB14@Tekki> <4B8FC1C5.5040802@ptd.net> Message-ID: I for one have tried to catch Chris on the speed triple. Which is really just a fraction of a motorcycle. >spring is coming and > my Speed Triple awaits. > > Chris Jaccarino At this time, I too am in. I've also got a friend that'll be riding my scarver. -mark From chrisjac at ptd.net Thu Mar 4 14:28:29 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:28:29 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Adjusting mirrors when driving your cage In-Reply-To: <001001cabb58$b2bae770$1830b650$@net> References: <001001cabb58$b2bae770$1830b650$@net> Message-ID: <4B8FC38D.8040804@ptd.net> Richard A. Cavaliere wrote: > Some may find this useful: > > http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q1/how_to_adjust_your_mirrors_to_avoi > d_blind_spots-feature > > Rick Cavaliere > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > > Good link, but doesnt everyone already have their mirrors set that way to minimize blind spots? Chris Jaccarino From chrisjac at ptd.net Thu Mar 4 14:30:53 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:30:53 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <27a2451f1003040502xc35e901idb10549a8f2ba556@mail.gmail.com> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <4B8EC973.7030706@ptd.net> <27a2451f1003040502xc35e901idb10549a8f2ba556@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B8FC41D.7040409@ptd.net> David Case wrote: >>> Remember this record ride is strictly for BMW riders only! >>> >>> < >>> >>> >> And what about Chris? >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > I'm in. :) > > Chris, ride your 'wing down to my house. You and Melinda can take the RS. > > Dave Case > Lansdale, PA > > > Dave, Duc Dude, Roddy, others........ Thanks for offers to loan me a piece of German history, but I dont even know if I will be available for the event. If we decide to attend and I need a bike, I will make a post regarding such. Thanks again for the offers. Chris Jaccarino From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 14:42:00 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:42:00 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rolly's Rag Message-ID: <853D9E2CB5964B93A19894E67F0D5F08@dellfe483b726d> I would like to remind everyone that our own Rolly Brown is hooking up with another great talent and long time friend Marcy Marxer. They are playing at Mom & Pops Coffeehouse in Levittown on: Friday March 12, @ 8pm It should be a terrific show, below is one my favorite Rolly tunes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC3VbbzfI6E TT From misevich at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 14:43:29 2010 From: misevich at gmail.com (Dave Misevich) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:43:29 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Adjusting mirrors when driving your cage In-Reply-To: <4B8FC38D.8040804@ptd.net> References: <001001cabb58$b2bae770$1830b650$@net> <4B8FC38D.8040804@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Chris wrote: > Richard A. Cavaliere wrote: >> Some may find this useful: >> >> http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q1/how_to_adjust_your_mirrors_to_avoi >> d_blind_spots-feature >> >> Rick Cavaliere >> > Good link, but doesnt everyone already have their mirrors set that way > to minimize blind spots? > Not in my experience. Most cars I see are set up to view the side of the car in the side view. I heard of this years ago on a talk radio show and have been doing it ever since. My technique to set the drivers side mirror is to lean my head against the window and then adjust the mirror until I can just see the side of the car. When I sit upright, I cannot see my car at all, but I can see any car that is in my "used to be blind" spot. The only bugger is backing up a long skinny driveway, you can't just glance left and right at the mirrors, you have to bob your head left and right. Small inconvenience. -- Dave Misevich Dexter, MI '85 K100RT '98 R1100RT From chrisjac at ptd.net Thu Mar 4 14:44:31 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:44:31 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Facing Gun Issue, Starbucks Throws Up Its Hands Message-ID: <4B8FC74F.6050809@ptd.net> http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/facing-gun-issue-starbucks-throws-up-its-hands/19381679?icid=main|hp-desktop|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aolnews.com%2Fnation%2Farticle%2Ffacing-gun-issue-starbucks-throws-up-its-hands%2F19381679 From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com Thu Mar 4 14:41:35 2010 From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:41:35 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Annual Gassing Day gathering - April 3 Saturday In-Reply-To: <4f9c5.499ab7ee.38c10062@aol.com> References: <4f9c5.499ab7ee.38c10062@aol.com> Message-ID: April 3, 2010 - Gassing Day Gathering, Quentin, PA The Pennsylvania Airheads and the Mac-Pac will start the season with a Gassing Day lunch gathering in Quentin, PA. Peter Egan once wrote of Gassing Day: "One by one, I started up four motorcycles and took them to the gas station to put new fuel in their tanks. I got all the bikes gassed up, but when the job was done I felt somehow incomplete. It seemed a day as significant as the firing up and fueling of motorcycles in the spring should be accompanied by some sort of gala festival or solemn ceremony to commemorate the moment." We'll commemorate the moment at 1:00pm EDST at the Quentin Haus Restaurant, (717) 272-6475, at the intersection of PA Rte 72 and Rte 419. This location is east of Harrisburg and south of Lebanon, PA. This is also just north of PA Turnpike Exit 266. Let me know if you're coming so I can reserve tables. We can enjoy lunch then sun ourselves in the parking lot until it's time to roll. If the weather is still wintery, bring the car. People are more important than motorcycles. -----Original Message----- From: Braveirwin at aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:24 AM .....when is gassing day again? Roddy From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 15:45:29 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:45:29 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Festival, Need Your Help ! References: <801FFC9C676F4F7793BE7820BFCF8253@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <0D996A9B585243A99B81E897C8B708A8@dellfe483b726d> > ....snip > So this is the game plan: I think I can gather around six sidecars and > with > the help of Roddy, Rolly and some other legitimate musicians we should be > able to pull this off. I'm pretty sure Doug Raymond excels on the > keyboards. Thanks for the compliment but I play badly even when in practice and I haven't tried any pieces written after 1840. Doug Raymond Doug is being way too modest here..............you should see him play ragtime. We're saving a spot for him. I'm also soliciting the services of a co-worker who rides a K1200RS and it a pretty darn good guitar player from what I hear. Also, Some of you met Dave Crank on last years Vintage Ride. He rode the Vellocette Venom and plays a variety of instruments even built his own studio at one time. I've heard his music and he is very good. Todd From rogers.george at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 15:43:38 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:43:38 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT, I guess: speaking of goats... In-Reply-To: <1708263026.11477401267711722250.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <4B8FB7F2.1080406@argolis.org> <1708263026.11477401267711722250.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1f13c3621003040743v3ed5df35u5ba009c803d4ce70@mail.gmail.com> Roosters tend to cause problems, hens don't, and a small number of hens is usually permitted in town. The opinion that chickens are entirely forbidden is almost always incorrect. Not only is giving eggs to the neighbors pretty good PR, but, as my dear sweet wife says on this very subject, :It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission." (ahem.) I recently bought three chicken-related url's. Val wants me to set up a site with chicken adventures, advice, and a web cam. She ordered a couple dozen new chicks last week. They should arrive mid-march. Some will be for sale when they get bigger. I'm thinking about including a page about chicken jokes (crossing the road variants for instance). Naturally, I'm open to suggestions. Best wishes, Rogers George Newark, DE http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com <---recent chicken post here----- http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http://serenitytravelnewark.com On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:08 AM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) < JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net> wrote: > > > > >There's some crazy Hipster fad of being 'Urban Farmers' right now, > >perhaps inspired by the book. Hipsters try to raise chickens and > >whatnot in the common areas of their apartment buildings. > > > I know some places have laws against keeping "livestock" in residential > areas. We were allowed to keep our pet pig "Chops" in Churchville PA (Upper > Southampton township) only because he was a pet, and not for eating. Our > neighbors in Manassas, VA had to get rid of their chickens because neighbors > (not us) complained about the rooster crowing and such. > > John Clauss > K1100RS > R75/6 > In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, > anonymously. - Jay Leno > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100304/825f3eb5/attachment.html From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Thu Mar 4 15:47:04 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:47:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <4B8FC41D.7040409@ptd.net> Message-ID: <360297886.11538311267717624486.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >>> Remember this record ride is strictly for BMW riders only! >>> >>> < >>> >>> May 3rd? That is a Monday. What is the date? John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From motoedde2 at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 15:48:46 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:48:46 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] K-75 Fuel Pump Swap? Message-ID: Not that I'm in need of one...BUT I found this interesting while looking for a filter at Pep Boys the other day... This is from a 1993 VW fox...used on some Jettas of the same period... http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/best/image.jsp?title=Fuel%20Pump&url=http%3A//img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/E300019887VDO.JPG Its made by the same manufacturer of the BMW pump...VDO...I wonder how swappable this is with our pump? edde -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From rogers.george at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 15:49:08 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:49:08 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <003601cabbae$e32fe170$a98fa450$@com> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <042601cabb24$74481be0$5cd853a0$@com> <0BEFE89815894B9B90FECC4D0552E975@dellfe483b726d> <043a01cabb4f$d9af3830$8d0da890$@com> <1f13c3621003040553m1be9c694xd0a571cd2217ac6c@mail.gmail.com> <003601cabbae$e32fe170$a98fa450$@com> Message-ID: <1f13c3621003040749q5db149cjc26cd861b476713d@mail.gmail.com> Be glad to! Hope we see you often. It's the second Saturday of the month, 896 Diner, just north of the I-95--896 exit in DE. 8:30 for tire kicking, 9 for breakfast. No guarantee that it will be free--depends on the size of the kitty. $8.00 otherwise. I collect the scraps and take them to our chickens. no lie. Best wishes, Rogers George Newark, DE http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http://serenitytravelnewark.com On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Doug wrote: > > Rogers, > > Hey, good hearing from you . . . will you send me another reminder of the > meeting? I don't want to miss another "free" breakfast! > > Regards, > > Doug > '01 1150 GSP > Bear, DE > ... From mmehalik at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 15:54:21 2010 From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:54:21 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] K-75 Fuel Pump Swap? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I feel like I read somewhere that there is a clutch for an older K that crosses with a VW as well. I don't know how much I believe that though. -mark On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:48 AM, edde m wrote: > Not that I'm in need of one...BUT I found this interesting while > looking for a filter at Pep Boys the other day... > > This is from a 1993 VW fox...used on some Jettas of the same period... > > http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/best/image.jsp?title=Fuel%20Pump&url=http%3A//img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/E300019887VDO.JPG > > Its made by the same manufacturer of the BMW pump...VDO...I wonder how > swappable this is with our pump? > > edde > > > > -- > edde m > 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), > 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) > Philadelphia, US > web: motoedde > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 16:02:28 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:02:28 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] K-75 Fuel Pump Swap? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/4/10, edde m wrote: > Not that I'm in need of one...BUT I found this interesting while > looking for a filter at Pep Boys the other day... > > This is from a 1993 VW fox...used on some Jettas of the same period... > > http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/best/image.jsp?title=Fuel%20Pump&url=http%3A//img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/E300019887VDO.JPG > > Its made by the same manufacturer of the BMW pump...VDO...I wonder how > swappable this is with our pump? Different connectors. No clue on body size. Will need some type of inlet filter. Then there are pressures and flow rates. But it is a pump by the same manufacturer you say. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motoedde2 at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 16:10:27 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:10:27 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] K-75 Fuel Pump Swap? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Brian Curry wrote: > On 3/4/10, edde m wrote: >> Not that I'm in need of one...BUT I found this interesting while >> ?looking for a filter at Pep Boys the other day... >> >> ?This is from a 1993 VW fox...used on some Jettas of the same period... >> >> ?http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/best/image.jsp?title=Fuel%20Pump&url=http%3A//img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/E300019887VDO.JPG >> >> ?Its made by the same manufacturer of the BMW pump...VDO...I wonder how >> ?swappable this is with our pump? > > Different connectors. ?No clue on body size. ?Will need some type of > inlet filter. ?Then there are pressures and flow rates. Yeah...the connector swap is a one time excercise. I'm gonna check on body size this weekend...BUT it looks almost identical to ours. The inlet filter that is being used for this is in the picture as a bolt/ on and not the basket type we usually see... http://www.beemerboneyard.com/16121455126.html How much different would the flow rate differ for this pump versus our's? > > But it is a pump by the same manufacturer you say. Yes...VDO makes the original K75s one on mine...and it makes the one for this VW...VDO number E3000-19887. I'd be curious to know what the VDO part number is on ours. -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 16:11:26 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:11:26 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <4B8EC973.7030706@ptd.net> <0EC960AE26AF43E79FED080A94B1819A@jackde48df08c6> <4B8ECC3B.1000004@ptd.net> Message-ID: <4FBC59B2ED044C6380369A44551DE924@dellfe483b726d> > Yeah right. Just for that, I'm going to video tape the event, WITH > SOUND (you've been warned), and pass all the traffic infractions onto the > local police. On second thought, why bother, BMWs rarely exceed the speed > limit.......zing! > Chris Jaccarino Chris, You are right, setting a SPEED record will certainly not be part of the day, but setting a GUINNESS record is indeed what we are aiming for. Oh,............and some good old fashion tire kicking with some like minded friends. It's going to be a fun time ! Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 16:15:42 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:15:42 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <29e1c.46a81745.38c026b4@aol.com> Message-ID: <788CEC2EE6014530BBF5D28F459A3030@dellfe483b726d> Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record > SH*T...........can't make the 2nd!!!! ............and neither can Ken > Bruce....we will be sailing! > Gary Christman This just in......... Gary and Ken, I was just informed that your ship will in dry dock for the next two months for some emergency repairs. I guess you guys will just have to join us after all. :) Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 16:20:32 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:20:32 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <2eb1d.245ffe43.38c034c6@aol.com> Message-ID: <6E4CC47FE1A145FA8608FACF22EEE5E6@dellfe483b726d> Todd Trumbore PS. Someone please be a good sport and lend Mike Evans one of your spare BMW's. :) =================================================== I'm in and I can lend Mike a bike Roddy Irwin, Arborist of Berks County That's very generous of you Roddy ! Thank you. We will probably need all hands on deck for this ride. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100304/892b9f2c/attachment.html From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 16:38:37 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:38:37 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership....New Guinness Record References: <5CE662A7AA9049AC9F9E94D62011BA5F@dan736a7e1b29d> Message-ID: > Well, I for one think the best group ride is 3 ....5 is ok if you're out > in > the country most of the time....having said that this sounds like a lot of > fun .............count me in and thanks for doing it....Dan Dan, Your are correct ! This will be a handful, but I will be supplying route sheets with map on one side and road routes on the other. Grass Roots BMW only rode a little over 4 miles. Now I ask, what kind of a ride is that? I want all riders to leave together and finish together down the last stretch of highway and into MCC. I have to review the rulebook at Guinness for the particulars. What happens in the middle of the run doesn't matter as long as we all take the same route. I believe there will be a head count as we leave and another head count when we return. Thanks for your interest Dan and please spread the word. We will need all hands on deck for this one. Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 16:41:06 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:41:06 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <2511ED806D3645BBAE24382A4F85D8F5@heilveil5e3fdd> Message-ID: > OK I am in.... > I have 2 BMWs so if there is a rider needing a bike I MAY be able to be > convinced to lone one out if they can be trusted.. > Duc Thanks Eric, very generous of you ! Todd From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 16:58:05 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:58:05 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] K-75 Fuel Pump Swap? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/4/10, edde m wrote: > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Brian Curry wrote: > > On 3/4/10, edde m wrote: > > inlet filter. Then there are pressures and flow rates. > > > Yeah...the connector swap is a one time excercise. I'm gonna check on > body size this weekend...BUT it looks almost identical to ours. They are both round. To me, it looks smaller. The > inlet filter that is being used for this is in the picture as a bolt/ > on and not the basket type we usually see... > http://www.beemerboneyard.com/16121455126.html The later pumps, same as the oilheads, use a different type. > > How much different would the flow rate differ for this pump versus our's? Ummm.... My X-ray vision is on the fritz. Spec sheets, or testing tells differences. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 17:08:01 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:08:01 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record; Sunday May 2nd References: <2ecfb.5ced5331.38c0352a@aol.com> Message-ID: <836F7528C09C49E58513FC68131C8906@dellfe483b726d> > I'm confused. All we need is lots of BMW's for some kind of record? > John Burkhauser John, The article is in the January issue of the BMW MOA ON pg. 83. The Swiss Village of Einsiedeln set the record of "The largest Parade of BMW Motorcycles" in 2004. Last year Grass Roots BMW set a new record of 241 BMW riders/bikes and only rode 4.2 miles. I say we can do better and I will be very dissappointed if we don't break this record, but also I want Montgomery Cycle Center ( our newest and only metro Phila. dealer ) to get off to a good economic start. This exposure should help out. It is to our benefit to have dealers nearby. Hermy's has been wonderful and we want to continue to give them our business and wish them well. It is just nice sometimes to have a dealer in your general neighborhood. My hat goes off to Bob Jones for sponsoring this event. I did not walk in to his office looking for any give-aways. Bob offered food, drinks, door prizes and 15 % discount on all parts & accessories. On top of this he is opening his dearlership on a SUNDAY with staff for our benefit exclusively. When did you ever hear of a dealership, auto or motorbike, being open on a Sunday ?? That never happens, but it is to our benefit for several reasons. We will have the store to ourselves and there is less road traffic on Sundays............much better conditions for the group ride. Thanks for your interest, please spread the word to all your BMW riding friends. Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 17:28:18 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:28:18 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <29e1c.46a81745.38c026b4@aol.com> <8CC89514D28764F-61F8-2203@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <15679ED486AF4137A7766A71621995B4@dellfe483b726d> >I THINK A DIFFERENT DATE WOULD BE BETTER! :-) > If I can't be there.......maybe someone should ride my bike! I hate to see > my bike miss the event! > Gary Christman "07 R 1200 GS Adventure Gary an offer like that, you should have 28 riders knocking on your door in about 5 minutes. Very generous of you indeed. So sorry to hear of your other plans. If those plans fall through we would be very happy to see you on the ride. Todd Trumbore From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 17:35:19 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:35:19 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <4B8ED39C.32228.4B1F6D8@localhost> Message-ID: > Since it is not on a racing day, I am in! > Ride Safe, > Joe Good news Joe ! By the way your name came up during my conversation with Bob Jones, he remembers you as one of his customers from the early days. I was also a customer of his back when he had the BMW and Kawasaki dealership in Perkasie. Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 17:23:41 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:23:41 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: I'm in. Please keep me in the loop. -Bill Thanks for your interest Bill. These are the latest details: Ride For the Record Sunday May 2nd, 2010, 9 am Montgomeryville Cycle Center 2901 Bethlehem Pike ( Rt 309) Hatfield, PA 19440 Please take note: This is a rain or shine event. The food and concessions will be ordered two weeks in advance, so this event will be held regardless of weather. No rain check date. Like Bob Jones said, BMW riders have the reputation of being the hardiest and most dedicated riders on the planet.......surely a few sprinkles of rain should not deter us from attempting this record breaking event, now should it !! I will probably be contacting two local newspapers and the local radio station to see if there is any interest. It would be nice if there is someone out there who can have someone video the start and finish. Hope to see you and your friends there on May 2nd. Todd Trumbore From tpcutter at aol.com Thu Mar 4 17:42:07 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:42:07 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] K-75 Fuel Pump Swap? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC89D924688077-4994-B23@webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com> <> I sometimes run into stuff like that. Here's how I work it out: 1) I buy the part. (It seems like everybody asks all over the internet instead of just going the most obvious route.) 2) I try it. Then I work out whether the issues are easy enough to resolve to make the potential savings, if any, worthwhile. 3) Any other method requires reliance on Internet Wisdom, which comes out of the south end of a north-bound bull. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From motoedde2 at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 17:47:12 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:47:12 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] K-75 Fuel Pump Swap? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Brian Curry wrote: >> >> ?How much different would the flow rate differ for this pump versus our's? > > Ummm.... ?My X-ray vision is on the fritz. ?Spec sheets, or testing > tells differences. I'll be testing mine and the one mentioned above one at this place...as my friend is the service manager at the shop. http://www.vacmotorsports.com/ Interestingly enough, quite a few of the BMW's cars use VDO pumps as well... -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 17:55:36 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:55:36 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW Snowmobile & Sidecar Message-ID: <1A89FC9457E148B796A609A50659D06D@dellfe483b726d> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_i_AovfzNXgQ/S4IB6vQOPxI/AAAAAAABFSk/uf6V3394_MM/s1600-h/tumblr_kvtzmaHvyj1qz63qno1_500.jpg . __,_._,___ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100304/5a755b7e/attachment.html From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 18:04:13 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:04:13 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <272403.50892.qm@web58503.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <259FD3347DF84EF9A7A21AF1EBCC7538@dellfe483b726d> Todd I would like to do this , and I am sure John Langsford and Dennis Doose would also like to do this . Thanks Tom Tom, Yes, please tell everyone and spread the word.........we will need all hands on deck to break this record. And remember,.....NO NORTON MANX on this ride :) Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 18:07:52 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <4B8EC973.7030706@ptd.net> <27a2451f1003040502xc35e901idb10549a8f2ba556@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7A2BB187A2F24700B7053BFA6AD89229@dellfe483b726d> >> > Remember this record ride is strictly for BMW riders only! > I'm in. :) > > Chris, ride your 'wing down to my house. You and Melinda can take the RS. > Dave Case Dave, Terrific, glad you can make it. Oh, before you loan Chris your RS, don't forget to install the wheelie bars :) Todd From tpcutter at aol.com Thu Mar 4 18:10:06 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:10:06 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record; Sunday May 2nd In-Reply-To: <836F7528C09C49E58513FC68131C8906@dellfe483b726d> References: <2ecfb.5ced5331.38c0352a@aol.com> <836F7528C09C49E58513FC68131C8906@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <8CC89DD0D98BF3F-4994-1368@webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com> <> Todd- Good on ya for organizing this and getting BJ interested. I used to do stuff like that all the time, held rallies in the field next to my shop in VT, organized Saturday Morning Rides from BMW of Staten Island all year long, had Sunday Tech Days in Brooklyn Motorcycle Works, Winter "Motorcycle Movies" nights in NYC, etc. They were great fun and the people who attended were also good for a little business during the year. Then people started shopping for their parts on the internet, buying tires for cheaper than I could sell them, and all that had to stop. It was pointless to entertain and feed peopel who didn't have any intention to shop with me. Remember a couple years back I had a Mac-Pac Tech Day here at RCRG? Of the 40-50 people who showed up that day, about 5 are regular customers, another 3-4 call when they are stuck in a bind. The rest shop elsewhere. You would not have known that from the way they scarfed down doughnuts and coffee. My point? BUY SOMETHING at Montgomeryville Cycle Center when you ride there. Duh. Big Duh. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 18:18:14 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:18:14 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] K-75 Fuel Pump Swap? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/4/10, edde m wrote: > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Brian Curry wrote: > I'll be testing mine and the one mentioned above one at this > place...as my friend is the service manager at the shop. > http://www.vacmotorsports.com/ > > Interestingly enough, quite a few of the BMW's cars use VDO pumps as well... Big supplier. "In country". Long term relationship which can be good or bad. I agree with Tom. It is easy to "check pressure" for operational pressure. Flow rates are tougher to sort out. Or most folks are not as good at it. I agree w/ Tom. Others have mounted "other pumps" it is finagling, and anticipating what can go wrong which some folks are NOT good at. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wayne at 2zars.com Thu Mar 4 18:51:18 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:51:18 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Popular Science online Message-ID: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/03/popular-science-puts-entire-scanned-archive-online-free/ (WS) Popular Science Puts Entire Scanned Archive Online, Free Gadget nerds: Prepare to lose the rest of your day to awesomeness. PopSci, the web-wing of Popular Science magazine, has scanned its entire 137-year archive and put it online for you to read, absolutely free. The archive, made available in partnership with Google Books, even has the original period advertisements. Head over to the site and you?ll see a simple search box. Of course, the first thing I typed in was ?jet pack?. This, naturally enough, returned plenty of results, including a rather dangerous-looking hydrogen peroxide?powered contraption with a belt-mounted controller. The article was printed in the December 1962 issue. You can?t go directly to an issue to browse, but once you have arrived somewhere by search, there are no restrictions on scrolling around. You?ll also find a properly hyperlinked table of contents in each magazine. The early years are a little dry: I browsed an issue from 1902, and it made the average math textbook look like a Dan Brown novel (only better paced), so I?d recommend starting in the optimistic, tech-loving 1950s. Oh, and did I mention it works great on an iPhone? Good luck getting any work done today. Search the PopSci archives. Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 18:55:34 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:55:34 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <042601cabb24$74481be0$5cd853a0$@com> <0BEFE89815894B9B90FECC4D0552E975@dellfe483b726d> <043a01cabb4f$d9af3830$8d0da890$@com> <1f13c3621003040553m1be9c694xd0a571cd2217ac6c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2FA9D34709864D5BA540982303A14B1D@dellfe483b726d> > Piece of Cake. I'll bring it up at the March 13 meeting in the 896 diner, > which you're all invited to, btw, especially if someone wants to plug the > event. > > It'll get me off my duff and back to fixing the fairing so I can ride. If > I > get the goat fence finished... We'll be expecting you and all your friends Rogers ! Please spread the word. Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 19:00:04 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:00:04 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <11613580.11478821267711865081.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <36025E2FE67549E4B0265A9B9A0C3BB2@dellfe483b726d> >I am in. Hmmm, the RS or R75? Have to think on that one. Of course if >someone is still in need of a BMW you can borrow one of mine. Just let me >know. > John Clauss > K1100RS > R75/6 Good news John ! I just can't get over all the commraderie and generosity of loaning out spare bikes ! The event is shaping up pretty well I'd say and that is encouraging! Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 19:05:12 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:05:12 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <4C85C72F172C4121B74480A6C5C7AB14@Tekki> <4B8FC1C5.5040802@ptd.net> Message-ID: <90F96F75CD3940F58189B4AC688C2078@dellfe483b726d> > At this time, I too am in. I've also got a friend that'll be riding my > scarver. > -mark Good news Mark, glad you can make it. Oh, by the way, Bob Jones is setting it up where all BMW riders will leave the gates first and any non-BMW riders who wish to ride/participate will ride in the next (second) group. I don't expect there to be too many of those. Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 19:31:34 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:31:34 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <1791212049.12316971267725909761.JavaMail.root@sz0137a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Todd, May2nd...I am there...thanks...Ron Glad you can make it.........will you be riding your R32 or your '54 Rennsport ? Todd Trumbore ? Todd, Is April 2nd etched in stone or are you still discussing a date? Thanks. Ron Hello Ron, Yes, the date is May 2nd and that is pretty firm. Hope to see you there. Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100304/27b514d6/attachment.html From mmehalik at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 19:35:01 2010 From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:35:01 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <90F96F75CD3940F58189B4AC688C2078@dellfe483b726d> References: <4C85C72F172C4121B74480A6C5C7AB14@Tekki> <4B8FC1C5.5040802@ptd.net> <90F96F75CD3940F58189B4AC688C2078@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: no no, both on BMWs. My friend will be on my f650cs, and me on my k1200s. I will, however, be sure he doesn't smile too much, so that he seems more like a natural bmw rider. He really likes the F, quite a bit more than his ninja(250). On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Todd Trumbore wrote: >> At this time, I too am in. I've also got a friend that'll be riding my >> scarver. >> -mark > > Good news Mark, glad you can make it. ?Oh, by the way, Bob Jones is setting > it up where all BMW riders will leave the gates first and any non-BMW riders > who wish to ride/participate will ride in the next (second) group. ? I don't > expect there to be too many of those. > > Todd > > From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Thu Mar 4 19:52:41 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record; Sunday May 2nd In-Reply-To: <8CC89DD0D98BF3F-4994-1368@webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <648586705.11670511267732361172.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >Good on ya for organizing this and getting BJ interested. I used to do >stuff like that all the time, held rallies in the field next to my shop >in VT, organized Saturday Morning Rides from BMW of Staten Island all >year long, had Sunday Tech Days in Brooklyn Motorcycle Works, Winter >"Motorcycle Movies" nights in NYC, etc. They were great fun and the >people who attended were also good for a little business during the >year. > >Then people started shopping for their parts on the internet, buying >tires for cheaper than I could sell them, and all that had to stop. It >was pointless to entertain and feed peopel who didn't have any >intention to shop with me. Tom, You make an excellent point as usual. I make it a point to go to Hermy's for everything I need, that they stock. I know I could save a couple of bucks here and there, but there is no point. My In-laws buy me gift certs. from Hermy's every year for Christmas, and they also usually pick me up a shirt. I do almost all of my own work, but when I don't I take it to Hermy's as well. As such I do not feel bad attending Hermy's open houses. I do not go to open houses at other bike shops, because that is just being cheap. I will attend the parade, probably buy a shirt, but most of my business will stay with Hermy's because they are the closest. I hope MCC does well and an event like this could not hurt. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 4 20:00:20 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:00:20 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record; Sunday May 2nd References: <2ecfb.5ced5331.38c0352a@aol.com> <836F7528C09C49E58513FC68131C8906@dellfe483b726d> <8CC89DD0D98BF3F-4994-1368@webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Todd- Good on ya for organizing this and getting BJ interested. I used to do stuff like that all the time, held rallies in the field next to my shop in VT, organized Saturday Morning Rides from BMW of Staten Island all year long, had Sunday Tech Days in Brooklyn Motorcycle Works, Winter "Motorcycle Movies" nights in NYC, etc. They were great fun and the people who attended were also good for a little business during the year. My point? BUY SOMETHING at Montgomeryville Cycle Center when you ride there. Duh. Big Duh. Tom Cutter http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com I appreciate your comments Tom. I just enjoy hanging out with fellow riders and trading some good stories and seeing others having a good time. As far as Bob Jones goes, he told me that he wants to do this right and make up for last time when the dealership was yanked out from under him and some customers who had purchased bikes were upset, naturally. I don't know all the particulars, but from what I gathered Corporate BMW can be very demanding of their dealerships. Things have to be their way or it's the highway. Back in '96 or so BMW made some decisions and requests that was very hard/expensive for BJ to meet and comply, plus the market was not too good at that time. BJ couldn't meet Corporate's demands and had to give up the dealership. Many customers were upset and BJ felt very bad about that, but didn't have much of a choice. Now, he told me he is very happy to have the dealership back and wants to go the extra yard to take care of his new customers and somehow try to make up to those past customers. BJ works on very small margins, his business grows because of the number of bikes he sells. He is extremely competitive when it comes to selling a motorbike and/or parts/accessories. So, yes if you are thinking about some future accessories or parts for your bike, and can hold off, this would be a good time to take advantage of the discount and I sure BJ would very much appreciate your business..........even if it is just a hat or a shirt. All good points and well stated Tom ! TT From bmwdick at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 17:35:06 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:35:06 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: Todd: Count me in. On 3/3/10, Todd Trumbore wrote: > Fellow Riders, Challenge #2 > > I'm always behind in my reading and last night I was catching up while on my > break and paging through the January issue of the MOA ON and stumbled upon > Karol Patzer's article "BMW Record Ride". > > I couldn't believe what I was reading, so I had to go back and re-read the > second paragraph. You have to be kidding...... 241 BMW riders set a new > Guinness Book Record from Grass Roots BMW in Cape Girardeau, Missouri. > > I immediately said to myself " This record is beatable". In fact if we > can't beat this record I will eat my hat. I started to plan the logistics > when I realized that this would be a terrific kick-off and promotion for our > new BMW dealership, Montgomeryville Cycle Center. Anybody who has lived in > this area for some time knows that we used to have five (5) BMW motorbike > dealerships in metro phila. and then before you knew what happened there > were none (zero). Thankfully we have Hermy's to our north and they have > been a blessing, albeit a long haul for most of us. I think those who have > been to MCC in the past will tell you they are decent people and their > prices are more than fair especially on tires. I want to help support our > one and only dealership in metro Phila. > > This morning I stopped in to discuss my thoughts with Bob Jones the > proprietor @ MCC. Bob is a real good guy, he looked at me, paused, sat down > at his desk and paused some more, looked me in the eyes, readjusted his > chair, looked me straight in the eyes again and...............paused some > more. Then he said, damn right we'll break that record and then some. > > I wasn't looking for any give-always. I just wanted a launching pad to get > this ride off the ground, but he gathered up his top sales guy and said " > Zeke.............this is what we are going to do" : We are going to open > the dealership up on Sunday May 2nd for BMW riders and BMW riders only, we > will have food, drinks, door prizes and 15% off any parts & accessories. > > So please help us break this record, pass the word to all your BMW riding > friends. I will lay out a short 25 mile ride through Bucks county using > only routes with the least resistance ( as few stops as possible) and I will > try to have the assistance of local law enforcement at key intersections. > We will return to the dealership after the ride for food, drinks, door > prizes and discounted parts and tire kicking. > > Remember this record ride is strictly for BMW riders only! > > I want your thoughts and your feedback and pass on my email to your friends > as I will need to keep track of all those participating. Also, Bob will > need a head count for ordering the food. I will be very disappointed if we > don't gather up at least 250 riders, so what do you say ! > > Todd Trumbore > PS. Someone please be a good sport and lend Mike Evans one of your spare > BMW's. :) > > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Sent from my mobile device BMW-Dick From rtill6 at aol.com Thu Mar 4 16:02:01 2010 From: rtill6 at aol.com (rtill6 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:02:01 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <49A4E0BF41DD4551AB3FD5B66FDDB76B@dellfe483b726d> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <49A4E0BF41DD4551AB3FD5B66FDDB76B@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <8CC89CB28D55ED8-104C-1445@webmail-d082.sysops.aol.com> I'm in Gordon -----Original Message----- From: Todd Trumbore To: Jack Weiss ; mac-pac-l at jtan.com Sent: Wed, Mar 3, 2010 3:48 pm Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record > > Fellow Riders, Challenge #2 > > We are going to open the dealership up on Sunday May 2nd for BMW riders > and > BMW riders only, we will have food, drinks, door prizes and 15% off any > parts & accessories. > > So please help us break this record, pass the word to all your BMW riding > friends. I will lay out a short 25 mile ride through Bucks county using > only routes with the least resistance ( as few stops as possible) and I > will > try to have the assistance of local law enforcement at key intersections. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Hi Todd, > This sounds like fun. I am in. > I'll also pass this along to the Philly Riders. There are plenty of BMW > riders there. > Thanks, Jack Jack, Terrific and could someone please pass this on to New Sweden Riders in NJ. Todd > _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Mar 5 00:07:53 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:07:53 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW Snowmobile & Sidecar In-Reply-To: <1A89FC9457E148B796A609A50659D06D@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <4B900509.3554.437F34D@localhost> > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_i_AovfzNXgQ/S4IB6vQOPxI/AAAAAAABFSk/uf6V3394_MM/s1600-h/tumblr_kvtzmaHvyj1qz63qno1_500.jpg > > Hmmmm. Wear does the track go? That is how does it return to the back wheel? Also, how do you steer? Ride safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bradjacoby at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 00:14:25 2010 From: bradjacoby at gmail.com (Brad Jacoby) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:14:25 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW Snowmobile & Sidecar In-Reply-To: <1A89FC9457E148B796A609A50659D06D@dellfe483b726d> References: <1A89FC9457E148B796A609A50659D06D@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <80e3635e1003041614v502960a4ge314726b5a352da1@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_i_AovfzNXgQ/S4IB6vQOPxI/AAAAAAABFSk/uf6V3394_MM/s1600-h/tumblr_kvtzmaHvyj1qz63qno1_500.jpg While I enjoy looking upon sidecar rigs, I have never desired to drive one. I believe there is strong foundation for the saying "like a third wheel." This nifty sled is another thing entirely. I don't know if it actually works, but I'm certainly diggin' the idea of it. Sidecar crazy indeed. Brad Jacoby Bethlehem PA 2008 R1200RT From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Mar 5 00:20:48 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:20:48 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Vote, today and tomorrow Message-ID: <4B900810.18914.443C704@localhost> Guys, Only 2 more days to vote. http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/view/88154 I am sure we can get him over 500. Ride safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From 321design at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 00:23:21 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:23:21 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Adjusting mirrors when driving your cage In-Reply-To: <001001cabb58$b2bae770$1830b650$@net> References: <001001cabb58$b2bae770$1830b650$@net> Message-ID: <74d2fbe11003041623j27885255yf33609573578bd3a@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:08 AM, Richard A. Cavaliere wrote: > Some may find this useful: > > http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q1/how_to_adjust_your_mirrors_to_avoi > d_blind_spots-feature > I've been doing that too. I also always put small round "fish eye" stick on mirrors on my side mirrors to show the blind spots. Both my car and bike have them. -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 00:51:14 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moto Pron pictures from Daytona Message-ID: http://superbikeplanet.com/image/2010/dmg/daytona/1/1.htm (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From stude_bmw_bill at verizon.net Fri Mar 5 01:00:08 2010 From: stude_bmw_bill at verizon.net (stude_bmw_bill at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:00:08 -0600 (CST) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Annual Gassing Day gathering - April 3 Saturday Message-ID: <1448464274.38233.1267750808401.JavaMail.root@vms183.mailsrvcs.net> Mar 4, 2010 09:46:07 AM, todd.p.byrum at lmco.com wrote: April 3, 2010 - Gassing Day Gathering, Quentin, PA The Pennsylvania Airheads and the Mac-Pac will start the season with a Gassing Day lunch gathering in Quentin, PA. Peter Egan once wrote of Gassing Day: "One by one, I started up four motorcycles and took them to the gas station to put new fuel in their tanks. I got all the bikes gassed up, but when the job was done I felt somehow incomplete. It seemed a day as significant as the firing up and fueling of motorcycles in the spring should be accompanied by some sort of gala festival or solemn ceremony to commemorate the moment." We'll commemorate the moment at 1:00pm EDST at the Quentin Haus Restaurant, (717) 272-6475, at the intersection of PA Rte 72 and Rte 419. This location is east of Harrisburg and south of Lebanon, PA. This is also just north of PA Turnpike Exit 266. Let me know if you're coming so I can reserve tables. We can enjoy lunch then sun ourselves in the parking lot until it's time to roll. If the weather is still wintery, bring the car. People are more important than motorcycles. -----Original Message----- From: Braveirwin at aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:24 AM .....when is gassing day again? Roddy _ It's on my calendar. I believe I made it to the one last year. C-ya then. Bill Zane R-1100RT et.al. ______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From bmwrider at large-screen.com Fri Mar 5 01:07:35 2010 From: bmwrider at large-screen.com (Tom Stites) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:07:35 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Adjusting mirrors when driving your cage In-Reply-To: <001001cabb58$b2bae770$1830b650$@net> References: <001001cabb58$b2bae770$1830b650$@net> Message-ID: <4B905957.1000107@large-screen.com> Richard A. Cavaliere wrote: > Some may find this useful: > > http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q1/how_to_adjust_your_mirrors_to_avoi > d_blind_spots-feature > > Rick Cavaliere > > Greetings from the snowy South... Useful indeed, it should be required reading in every license manual and I don't think I've ever seen it mentioned in one. That mirror adjustment technique is something I've done since my first accident at the age of 17 when I pulled into the side of a stake body truck when merging onto an interstate...he was in my blind spot. I've taught my daughters this technique and explained it to countless others over the years. Having to lean forward to see the side of your car when backing up or parking is far less problematic and risky than having to turn your head around to check blind spots at speed. In talking to other riders, I find many have their mirrors set so they can see directly behind them when seated in a normal position...I have my mirrors on the bike set so I have to cock my head a little to the side to see directly behind...gives me a much better view of potential blinds spots at the sides. Cheers, Tom Stites Dawsonville, GA '97 R1100RT '06 DRz400s '78 KZ1000A From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Fri Mar 5 01:08:09 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (honeybrk at dejazzd.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:08:09 -0600 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Daytona In-Reply-To: <001001cabb58$b2bae770$1830b650$@net> Message-ID: <20100304190809.P4EIU.190123.root@ispmxfep13-z02> Greetings from Sunny Florida: Beautiful weather down here. I checked out the auction bikes today There were some really different bikes but I didn't see any unusual BMW's At the Cycle World Show they had several models of the "Zero" an electric bike Both dirt bike and road bike. They had demo rides - even supplied the helmets. I sat on one but it was way too tall so I only sat on it. The road model can be lowered to 33" They were quiet but not silent as the chain does make some noise. 40-50 mile range and supposedly a top speed of 67mph. At the MOA booth at the show they noticed my Mac Pac shirt and commented that he know several members. I mentioned Reipe and he said how much he enjoyed Jack's writing. I said that he should see Jack in person!! The dirt track racing was on the new track right next to the Speedway. I was not very impressed with the 1/4 mile track. The racers were very unhappy with the ruts and loose stones on the track but with some work it was improved some for the actual racing which was exciting. The "grand stand" if you can call it that, was only 10 rows high. But it was only temporary. I do hope they put in something better. Tonight I saw the launch from a distance. It was almost dark so the glow in the sky was easy to see.. There is something about seeing it in person rather than on TV that makes it exciting even from a distance. Haven't seen any Pac'ers but that is partly my fault as I gave up trying to see ECO Dan because of the traffic. Tomorrow I fly to Charlotte to see my son and then home on Monday. Marge From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 01:12:35 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 20:12:35 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Those Boeing 747's take a bombing and can keep on flying.... Message-ID: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8547329.stm (WS) A test explosion on a Boeing 747 has shown that a US Christmas Day flight would have landed safely even if a bomb on board was detonated successfully. They note that the bomber and the person next to him would not have survived. Plus it would have been messy for those in the cabin with body bits scattered around. Wear a painters suit on board to end up more dainty after the explosion. I HATE bombs. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 01:17:58 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 20:17:58 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Daytona In-Reply-To: <20100304190809.P4EIU.190123.root@ispmxfep13-z02> References: <001001cabb58$b2bae770$1830b650$@net> <20100304190809.P4EIU.190123.root@ispmxfep13-z02> Message-ID: <4a4431121003041717j1091e026ke733273cbb99c90f@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:08 PM, wrote: > Greetings from Sunny Florida: > > Beautiful weather down here. ?I checked out the auction bikes today There were some really different bikes but I didn't see any unusual BMW's ?At the Cycle World Show they had several models of the "Zero" an electric bike ?Both dirt bike and road bike. ?They had demo rides - even supplied the helmets. I sat on one but it was way too tall so I only sat on it. ?The road model can be lowered to 33" They were quiet but not silent as the chain does make some noise. ?40-50 mile range and supposedly a top speed of 67mph. > > At the MOA booth at the show they noticed my Mac Pac shirt and commented that he know several members. I mentioned Reipe and he said how much he enjoyed Jack's writing. ?I said ?that he should see Jack in person!! > > The dirt track racing was on the new track right next to the Speedway. ?I was not very impressed with the 1/4 mile track. ?The racers were very unhappy with the ruts and loose stones on the track but with some work it was improved some for the actual racing which was exciting. ?The "grand stand" if you can call it that, was only 10 rows high. But it was only temporary. ?I do hope they put in something better. > > Tonight I saw the launch from a distance. ?It was almost dark so the glow in the sky was easy to see.. ?There is something about seeing it in person rather than on TV that makes it exciting even from a distance. > > Haven't seen any Pac'ers but that is partly my fault as I gave up trying to see ECO Dan because of the traffic. > > Tomorrow I fly to Charlotte to see my son and then home on Monday. > > Marge Sorry ya didn't get ta see me Marge. Maybe soon. ECO Dano From kaldewaay at live.com Fri Mar 5 01:31:33 2010 From: kaldewaay at live.com (Kaldewaay) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 20:31:33 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: References: <1791212049.12316971267725909761.JavaMail.root@sz0137a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Suzie and I will be at this event. How about high BMW female riders event also for the Guiness book of records ? Sent from Alain Kaldewaay IPhone On Mar 4, 2010, at 2:31 PM, "Todd Trumbore" wrote: From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 01:40:13 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 20:40:13 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fell over, Daytona Day ? Message-ID: <4a4431121003041740v7da76f0bpb09db6472a1b81d3@mail.gmail.com> Not sure why I did, but I accidentally hit the landing gear up switch while coasting up to the driveway cut in the sidewalk. Tipped over like a sack O potatoes in front of the former OCC stars (but I don't think they noticed). 3 or 4 people jumped out to help me, so I said "don't do anything yet, let me get out of here first." Once out, I found no electric power. Had to be pushed into the parking area. Blew a 100 AMP FUSE in the gear retraction solenoid area (under the back seat). Pulled a 175 AMP FUSE from my tools, and replaced the fuse. Back in business after maybe 15 min. repair tear down with thousands of onlookers. I need to crash more often, really gets people's attention. ECO DANO From chrisjac at ptd.net Fri Mar 5 01:44:48 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:44:48 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Those Boeing 747's take a bombing and can keep on flying.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B906210.7060604@ptd.net> Brian Curry wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8547329.stm > (WS) > > A test explosion on a Boeing 747 has shown that a US Christmas Day > flight would have landed safely even if a bomb on board was detonated > successfully. > > They note that the bomber and the person next to him would not have > survived. Plus it would have been messy for those in the cabin with > body bits scattered around. > > Wear a painters suit on board to end up more dainty after the explosion. > > I HATE bombs. > > Ah, excuse me, there are no doors on that plane. I request a redo! Chris Jaccarino From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 01:45:09 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 20:45:09 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fell over, Daytona Day ? In-Reply-To: <4a4431121003041740v7da76f0bpb09db6472a1b81d3@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121003041740v7da76f0bpb09db6472a1b81d3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/4/10, Dan Whitfield wrote: > Once out, I found no electric power. Had to be pushed into the parking > area. Blew a 100 AMP FUSE in the gear retraction solenoid area (under > the back seat). > > Pulled a 175 AMP FUSE from my tools, and replaced the fuse. Back in > business after maybe 15 min. repair tear down with thousands of > onlookers. I would find a 100A replacement fuse QUICKLY. I shudder at the thought of what a 100A fuse is protecting. And an extra 75A will not help at all. And I am guessing you don't know why it blew. Not a good thing there. > I need to crash more often, really gets people's attention. I bet!!! I wonder how many cell phone pics were taken. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 01:51:12 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 20:51:12 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] K-75 Fuel Pump Swap? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4a4431121003041751g6ce6f61cp6016a6904f46b278@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > On 3/4/10, edde m wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Brian Curry wrote: > >> I'll be testing mine and the one mentioned above one at this >> ?place...as my friend is the service manager at the shop. >> ?http://www.vacmotorsports.com/ >> >> ?Interestingly enough, quite a few of the BMW's cars use VDO pumps as well... > > Big supplier. ?"In country". ?Long term relationship which can be good or bad. > > I agree with Tom. ?It is easy to "check pressure" for operational > pressure. ?Flow rates are tougher to sort out. ?Or most folks are not > as good at it. > > I agree w/ Tom. ?Others have mounted "other pumps" it is finagling, > and anticipating what can go wrong which some folks are NOT good at. > > -- The main ingredient is do not have an electrical spark in the gas tank. DANO From chrisjac at ptd.net Fri Mar 5 01:58:09 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:58:09 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Those Boeing 747's take a bombing and can keep on flying.... In-Reply-To: <4B906210.7060604@ptd.net> References: <4B906210.7060604@ptd.net> Message-ID: <4B906531.3090301@ptd.net> Chris wrote: > Brian Curry wrote: > >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8547329.stm >> (WS) >> >> A test explosion on a Boeing 747 has shown that a US Christmas Day >> flight would have landed safely even if a bomb on board was detonated >> successfully. >> >> They note that the bomber and the person next to him would not have >> survived. Plus it would have been messy for those in the cabin with >> body bits scattered around. >> >> Wear a painters suit on board to end up more dainty after the explosion. >> >> I HATE bombs. >> >> >> > > > Ah, excuse me, there are no doors on that plane. I request a redo! > Just so you know, pentaerythritol tetranitrate (PETN)* *has a high brisance...or shock wave...or how fast it develops its max. pressure. Without doors, that test was pretty much meaningless imo non expert, non Holiday Inn sleepover opinion. But then again, the govt wants you to continue with your Happy Happy Joy Joy lifestyle so they do what is best for the camera. Chris Jaccarino From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 01:59:54 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 20:59:54 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fell over, Daytona Day ? In-Reply-To: References: <4a4431121003041740v7da76f0bpb09db6472a1b81d3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a4431121003041759s2b97c65bwa9af22c2498eed21@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > On 3/4/10, Dan Whitfield wrote: >> ?Once out, I found no electric power. Had to be pushed into the parking >> ?area. Blew a 100 AMP FUSE in the gear retraction solenoid area (under >> ?the back seat). >> >> ?Pulled a 175 AMP FUSE from my tools, and replaced the fuse. ?Back in >> ?business after maybe 15 min. repair tear down with thousands of >> ?onlookers. > > I would find a 100A replacement fuse QUICKLY. ?I shudder at the > thought of what a 100A fuse is protecting. ?And an extra 75A will not > help at all. > > And I am guessing you don't know why it blew. ?Not a good thing there. > >> ?I need to crash more often, really gets people's attention. > > I bet!!! ?I wonder how many cell phone pics were taken. Yes, lots of cell phone cams. The 100 AMP FUSE is one I added (it was hard wired to the up and down solenoids). This is the second time it has blown that big fuse on a tip over. I think that the up and down solenoids (which reverse polarity to go backward) are getting + & - engaged at the same time! Dano From Braveirwin at aol.com Fri Mar 5 02:02:14 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:02:14 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Festival, Need Your Help ! Message-ID: <81cff.11817c52.38c1c026@aol.com> In a message dated 3/4/2010 10:45:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: Also, Some of you met Dave Crank on last years Vintage Ride. He rode the Vellocette Venom and plays a variety of instruments even built his own studio at one time. I've heard his music and he is very good. Todd ============================================ I'm going to need to work at it to come up with another BMW to ride, but I may be able to. Does Mr Crank also have a Beemer to ride? Roddy Irwin, Arborist of Berks County '92 K 75 RT '85 R 80 RT '74 CB 200 T and assorted dirt bikes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I > think that the up and down solenoids (which reverse polarity to go > backward) are getting + & - engaged at the same time! Contackt "jostle". Got it. Yes that will blow fuses. The fuse likely protects the relay contacts from UGLY damage. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 02:09:58 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:09:58 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] K-75 Fuel Pump Swap? In-Reply-To: <4a4431121003041751g6ce6f61cp6016a6904f46b278@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121003041751g6ce6f61cp6016a6904f46b278@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/4/10, Dan Whitfield wrote: > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > > The main ingredient is do not have an electrical spark in the gas tank. Actually not a big problem at all if it is under fuel. Now if it is in vapour, then it can get "exciting". -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 02:20:15 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:20:15 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fell over, Daytona Day ? In-Reply-To: References: <4a4431121003041740v7da76f0bpb09db6472a1b81d3@mail.gmail.com> <4a4431121003041759s2b97c65bwa9af22c2498eed21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a4431121003041820i3dbf123cs109a862521eb273@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > Dan, and others. ?TRIM or it might get UGLY. > > On 3/4/10, Dan Whitfield wrote: >> >> >> Yes, lots of cell phone cams. ?The 100 AMP FUSE is one I added (it was >> ?hard wired to the up and down solenoids). > > Feed to them, and the K bike starter motor that runs them up and down > no? ?If so, you are probably close to the motor's operating current. > >> ?This is the second time it has blown that big fuse on a tip over. I >> ?think that the up and down solenoids (which reverse polarity to go >> ?backward) are getting + & - engaged at the same time! > > Contackt "jostle". ?Got it. ?Yes that will blow fuses. ?The fuse > likely protects the relay contacts from UGLY damage. The starter motor isn't K bike, it's Suzuki 450 twin starter, but looks same as K bike starter. Usually draws maybe 30 AMP. I don't see another viable scenario than up and down relays being shaken into engagment for a moment by the tip over quake. Dano From chrisjac at ptd.net Fri Mar 5 02:14:33 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:14:33 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Hey, look whats happening in my town.... Message-ID: <4B906909.60101@ptd.net> Mayor Suspends Police Chief... http://www.wfmz.com/news/22716826/detail.html and more recently..... Macungie Meeting on Police Chief Suspension ..... http://www.wfmz.com/news/22735299/detail.html High drama in Macungie. I knew I should have run for Mayor! Chris Jaccarino From Braveirwin at aol.com Fri Mar 5 02:35:43 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:35:43 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW Snowmobile & Sidecar Message-ID: <8385c.6aa8461e.38c1c7ff@aol.com> In a message dated 3/4/2010 12:55:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_i_AovfzNXgQ/S4IB6vQOPxI/AAAAAAABFSk/uf6V3394_MM/s1 600-h/tumblr_kvtzmaHvyj1qz63qno1_500.jpg ============================================== Todd, that appears to be a BMW with a track fitted to it. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100304/308190f3/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 02:41:01 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:41:01 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fell over, Daytona Day ? In-Reply-To: <4a4431121003041820i3dbf123cs109a862521eb273@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121003041740v7da76f0bpb09db6472a1b81d3@mail.gmail.com> <4a4431121003041759s2b97c65bwa9af22c2498eed21@mail.gmail.com> <4a4431121003041820i3dbf123cs109a862521eb273@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/4/10, Dan Whitfield wrote: > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > > Dan, and others. TRIM or it might get UGLY. I WILL repeat myself. But I am NOT kidding. > > Feed to them, and the K bike starter motor that runs them up and down > > no? If so, you are probably close to the motor's operating current. > The starter motor isn't K bike, it's Suzuki 450 twin starter, but > looks same as K bike starter. I think that the Japanese make one starter w/ minor variations. Samo-Samo. > Usually draws maybe 30 AMP. I would swear I have seen 75A in the K's. Or not. If you only see 30A. the "standard" is basically double the "normal" draw, and so 60A. > I don't see another viable scenario than up and down relays being > shaken into engagment for a moment by the tip over quake. Or a wire that pinches only in that scenario. :(:( -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From Braveirwin at aol.com Fri Mar 5 02:44:12 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:44:12 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record; Sunday May 2nd Message-ID: <83f9a.21a9799f.38c1c9fc@aol.com> In a message dated 3/4/2010 1:11:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tpcutter at aol.com writes: Remember a couple years back I had a Mac-Pac Tech Day here at RCRG? Of the 40-50 people who showed up that day, about 5 are regular customers, another 3-4 call when they are stuck in a bind. The rest shop elsewhere. You would not have known that from the way they scarfed down doughnuts and coffee. ================================================= If I could get regular customers from 10% of the attendees like that, I think I might try to do that every year. That's really not a bad return. Do you need more customers, Tom? I was under the impression that you had a long waiting line and I try not to bother you unless I think my bikes need very special attention. And then I am appreciative that you are able to fit me in soon. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Guess it depends on which side you are. Chris Jaccarino From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Mar 5 04:24:02 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:24:02 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Those Boeing 747's take a bombing and can keep on flying.... In-Reply-To: <4B906531.3090301@ptd.net> References: <4B906210.7060604@ptd.net> Message-ID: <4B904112.4310.522793C@localhost> > Chris wrote: > > Brian Curry wrote: > > > >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8547329.stm > >> (WS) > >> > >> A test explosion on a Boeing 747 has shown that a US Christmas Day > >> flight would have landed safely even if a bomb on board was detonated > >> successfully. > >> > >> They note that the bomber and the person next to him would not have > >> survived. Plus it would have been messy for those in the cabin with > >> body bits scattered around. > >> > >> Wear a painters suit on board to end up more dainty after the explosion. > >> > >> I HATE bombs. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > Ah, excuse me, there are no doors on that plane. I request a redo! > > > > Just so you know, pentaerythritol tetranitrate (PETN)* *has a high > brisance...or shock wave...or how fast it develops its max. pressure. > Without doors, that test was pretty much meaningless imo non expert, non > Holiday Inn sleepover opinion. But then again, the govt wants you to > continue with your Happy Happy Joy Joy lifestyle so they do what is best > for the camera. > > I am not sure the doors would have made the damage worse. There was no smoke coming out of the doors, so I would assume the bulk pressure rise in the plane was small. However, the plane was not pressurized as it would be in the air. The pressurization would add some stress to the skin that may have made things worse. In the Christmas flight the Undie-bomber waited until the plane was decending so the pressurization may have been nill. It was interesting how the explosion blew the rivets out of the skin. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Mar 5 04:32:52 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:32:52 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Toyota Secretive On 'Black Box' Data In-Reply-To: <4B9084D0.8000606@ptd.net> Message-ID: <4B904324.8869.52A8CE5@localhost> > http://www.wfmz.com/money/22744244/detail.html > > There are some pros and cons re: Toyota's behavior on this subject. > Guess it depends on which side you are. > > "Because the EDR system is an experimental device and is neither intended, nor reliable, for accident reconstruction, Toyota's policy is to download data only at the direction of law enforcement, NHTSA or a court order," the Toyota statement said." One would think that someone at the NHTSA would have asked for the black box data from one or two of the Toyotas. It has been a couple of years.. I am just saying... Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 04:51:10 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:51:10 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Toyota Secretive On 'Black Box' Data In-Reply-To: <4B904324.8869.52A8CE5@localhost> References: <4B9084D0.8000606@ptd.net> <4B904324.8869.52A8CE5@localhost> Message-ID: On 3/4/10, Joe Dille wrote: > > http://www.wfmz.com/money/22744244/detail.html > > There are some > pros and cons re: Toyota's behavior on this subject. > Guess it > depends on which side you are. > > > > > "Because the EDR system is an experimental device and is neither > intended, nor reliable, for accident reconstruction, Toyota's policy > is to download data only at the direction of law enforcement, NHTSA > or a court order," the Toyota statement said." > > One would think that someone at the NHTSA would have asked for the > black box data from one or two of the Toyotas. It has been a couple > of years.. I am just saying... Be sure to thank the Movie and Recording Industry for the DMCA (Or something like that.) They basically have blocked any "unencryping" of encrypted data or reverse engineering. Yes, someone could get a few of the boxes, and see what the data structures are. Read the firmware and use some tools to see what it is doing. Pull some wiring harnesses, if the electrical diagrams don't show it, and see what obvious inputs there are to it. However, that is against the law. Be sure to thank the Movie and Recording industry. Pig F'rs and their Congressional bitches. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 05:46:26 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 00:46:26 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Daytona In-Reply-To: <20100304190809.P4EIU.190123.root@ispmxfep13-z02> References: <001001cabb58$b2bae770$1830b650$@net> <20100304190809.P4EIU.190123.root@ispmxfep13-z02> Message-ID: On 3/4/10, honeybrk at dejazzd.com wrote: > At the MOA booth at the show they noticed my Mac Pac shirt and commented that he know several members. I mentioned Reipe and he said how much he enjoyed Jack's writing. I said that he should see Jack in person!! Likely Tom Buttars. What do you expect from shaved head guys from South Dakota arriving in Daytona this time of year. The heat likely affected them even worse than anyone else... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Mar 5 11:14:44 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:14:44 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Toyota Secretive On 'Black Box' Data In-Reply-To: References: <4B9084D0.8000606@ptd.net> <4B904324.8869.52A8CE5@localhost> Message-ID: >Be sure to thank the Movie and Recording Industry for the DMCA (Or >something like that.) They basically have blocked any "unencryping" >of encrypted data or reverse engineering. You're thinking DRM - Digital Rights Management. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Mar 5 12:12:13 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:12:13 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Toyota Secretive On 'Black Box' Data In-Reply-To: References: <4B904324.8869.52A8CE5@localhost> Message-ID: <4B90AECD.28646.6CF19B8@localhost> > On 3/4/10, Joe Dille wrote: > > > http://www.wfmz.com/money/22744244/detail.html > > There are some > > pros and cons re: Toyota's behavior on this subject. > Guess it > > depends on which side you are. > > > > > > > > "Because the EDR system is an experimental device and is neither > > intended, nor reliable, for accident reconstruction, Toyota's policy > > is to download data only at the direction of law enforcement, NHTSA > > or a court order," the Toyota statement said." > > > > One would think that someone at the NHTSA would have asked for the > > black box data from one or two of the Toyotas. It has been a couple > > of years.. I am just saying... > Edit... > > Yes, someone could get a few of the boxes, and see what the data > structures are. Read the firmware and use some tools to see what it > is doing. Pull some wiring harnesses, if the electrical diagrams > don't show it, and see what obvious inputs there are to it. > > However, that is against the law. > That's a fine point, but not the one I was trying to make. One would think someone at NHTSA would have thought to subpoena the black box from the cars that crashed vs. calling the head of the company to congress. I admit the head of the company makes for better press, but provides less data. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From rdlebout at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 12:19:14 2010 From: rdlebout at gmail.com (Roberts LeBoutillier) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:19:14 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Vote, today and tomorrow In-Reply-To: <4B900810.18914.443C704@localhost> References: <4B900810.18914.443C704@localhost> Message-ID: <3f2b32881003050419x3578e805rada0e49a5e7fab39@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Joe Dille wrote: > Guys, > > Only 2 more days to vote. > > http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/view/88154 > > I am sure we can get him over 500. > > Ride safe, > > Joe > --------------------------------- > Joe Dille > Telford, PA USA > joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us > What happens on Earth, stays on Earth > http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > Joe, I put it on Linkedin, Twitter, Facebook and Yammer. So that accounts for five people. If they send it to others votes should go up quickly. It is more important to send to others than vote (yes, both is better) yourself. 445 votes this morning. -- Bobby LeBoutillier From Braveirwin at aol.com Fri Mar 5 12:26:36 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:26:36 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Vote, today and tomorrow Message-ID: <1f2c.30dea51d.38c2527c@aol.com> In a message dated 3/5/2010 7:19:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rdlebout at gmail.com writes: Joe, I put it on Linkedin, Twitter, Facebook and Yammer. So that accounts for five people. If they send it to others votes should go up quickly. It is more important to send to others than vote (yes, both is better) yourself. 445 votes this morning. ================================================= I've looked at this site three times and I can't figure out where this car design is or how to vote on it. Of course that is not unusual for someone who has just barely come down out of the trees. Roddy Irwin, Arborist of Berks County '92 K 75 RT '85 R 80 RT '74 CB 200 T and assorted dirt bikes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100305/a7ca8bfa/attachment.html From mrmevans at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 12:32:43 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:32:43 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Vote, today and tomorrow In-Reply-To: <4B900810.18914.443C704@localhost> References: <4B900810.18914.443C704@localhost> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003050432w4fccb178y6463c2b2415de413@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Joe Dille wrote: > Guys, > > Only 2 more days to vote. > > http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/view/88154 > > I am sure we can get him over 500. > > Ride safe, > > Joe This reminds me of a game the boys and I play together on the Wii - Need for Speed Pro Street. You buy a car with your imaginary money, then purchase/install all the upgrade parts you want from engine upgrades, forced induction, suspension, drivetrain, wheel tires and body kits, after which you tune your car for your needs (cam timing, suspensions settings, gear ratios, etc.) Then you can spend hours applying graphics and paint to the cars to get it to look the way you want. And get this, eventually you can even 'race' it. It's been fun on those snow days. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From piechota at argolis.org Fri Mar 5 12:33:18 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:33:18 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW Snowmobile & Sidecar In-Reply-To: <4B900509.3554.437F34D@localhost> References: <4B900509.3554.437F34D@localhost> Message-ID: <4B90FA0E.3060107@argolis.org> Joe Dille wrote: > >> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_i_AovfzNXgQ/S4IB6vQOPxI/AAAAAAABFSk/uf6V3394_MM/s1600-h/tumblr_kvtzmaHvyj1qz63qno1_500.jpg >> >> > > Hmmmm. Wear does the track go? That is how does it return to the > back wheel? Also, how do you steer? I was trying to figure that out too. From piechota at argolis.org Fri Mar 5 12:34:27 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:34:27 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <38505EB2C4904601B1906E85AEBDE246@dellfe483b726d> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <4B8EC973.7030706@ptd.net> <38505EB2C4904601B1906E85AEBDE246@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <4B90FA53.2070302@argolis.org> Todd Trumbore wrote: > > Ooops, will someone please lend Chris a bmw with wheelie bars :) I'm in too, BTW. From rollybrown at verizon.net Fri Mar 5 12:52:26 2010 From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:52:26 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rolly's Rag In-Reply-To: <853D9E2CB5964B93A19894E67F0D5F08@dellfe483b726d> References: <853D9E2CB5964B93A19894E67F0D5F08@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <9E288649-F5EB-4DFB-85BC-586C15DA7777@verizon.net> On Mar 4, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > I would like to remind everyone that our own Rolly Brown is hooking > up with > another great talent and long time friend Marcy Marxer. > > They are playing at Mom & Pops Coffeehouse in Levittown on: > > Friday March 12, @ 8pm > > It should be a terrific show, below is one my favorite Rolly tunes > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC3VbbzfI6E Thanks for mentioning, Todd! It's just a week away...more info here: http://www.momandpops.org/marcyrolly.html Cheers, Rolly Rolly Brown Sellersville PA www.rollybrown.com www.myspace.com/rollybrown From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Mar 5 12:54:21 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:54:21 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Vote, today and tomorrow In-Reply-To: <1f2c.30dea51d.38c2527c@aol.com> Message-ID: <4B90B8AD.13966.6F5AF16@localhost> > > > > In a message dated 3/5/2010 7:19:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > rdlebout at gmail.com writes: > Joe, > I put it on Linkedin, Twitter, Facebook and Yammer. So that accounts > for five people. If they send it to others votes should go up > quickly. It is more important to send to others than vote (yes, both > is better) yourself. > 445 votes this morning. > ================================================= > > I've looked at this site three times and I can't figure out where > this car design is or how to vote on it. Of course that is not > unusual for someone who hasjust barely come down out of the trees. > > Roddy, No problem. There is a "VOTE" button in the lower right hand corner. I appreciate your help. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 14:02:38 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:02:38 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fell over, Daytona Day ? In-Reply-To: References: <4a4431121003041740v7da76f0bpb09db6472a1b81d3@mail.gmail.com> <4a4431121003041759s2b97c65bwa9af22c2498eed21@mail.gmail.com> <4a4431121003041820i3dbf123cs109a862521eb273@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a4431121003050602o784912d8y3727f3ba2c0f0ab1@mail.gmail.com> (trim) > >> The starter motor isn't K bike, it's Suzuki 450 twin starter, but >> ?looks same as K bike starter. > > I think that the Japanese make one starter w/ minor variations. ?Samo-Samo. The only noticable difference was a bushing in output end instead of bearing. >> ?Usually draws maybe 30 AMP. > > I would swear I have seen 75A in the K's. ?Or not. ?If you only see > 30A. the "standard" is basically double the "normal" draw, and so 60A. > >> ?I don't see another viable scenario than up and down relays being >> ?shaken into engagment for a moment by the tip over quake. > > Or a wire that pinches only in that scenario. :(:( Very important question: The 100 AMP fuse is sized for a 32 volt system. How doese that effect it's fusability in a 12 volt system?? Dano From pasegc at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 14:54:50 2010 From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:54:50 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > I want your thoughts and your feedback and pass on my email to your friends > as I will need to keep track of all those participating. ?Also, Bob will > need a head count for ordering the food. ?I will be very disappointed if we > don't gather up at least 250 riders, so what do you say ! Paul Pollio and I will also be in attendance. Hell if we can't beat them in mileage we will kill them with participation. Don't forget that the MOA Mileage Cont*st will be in operation during that time frame. I will be collecting forms at that time so be there or be square. Don't forget we are Mac-Pac, #289 and my single signature will complete the signing requirement other than you must sign at the bottom of the form. The new dealership can also sign the forms so come on ya'll. Gerry Cavanaugh From bradjacoby at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 15:05:40 2010 From: bradjacoby at gmail.com (Brad Jacoby) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:05:40 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fell over, Daytona Day ? In-Reply-To: <4a4431121003050602o784912d8y3727f3ba2c0f0ab1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121003041740v7da76f0bpb09db6472a1b81d3@mail.gmail.com> <4a4431121003041759s2b97c65bwa9af22c2498eed21@mail.gmail.com> <4a4431121003041820i3dbf123cs109a862521eb273@mail.gmail.com> <4a4431121003050602o784912d8y3727f3ba2c0f0ab1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <80e3635e1003050705u2c8f725do3608bc4ea1692859@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Dan Whitfield wrote: > Very important question: ?The 100 AMP fuse is sized for a 32 volt > system. How doese that effect it's fusability in a 12 volt system?? You may freely use fuses with higher voltage ratings in lower voltage systems without doing any math. It'll burn at its specified amperage. The higher voltage rating is evidence of the fuse having adequate insulation and such for that voltage. Brad Jacoby Bethlehem PA 2008 R1200RT From alauppe.bmw at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 15:09:35 2010 From: alauppe.bmw at gmail.com (Andrew Lauppe) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:09:35 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Free Parts for 99 F650 or similar Message-ID: Hey guys - its been a while. I sold my F650 in 2005 and the buyer never came back for the following parts, which I'm told need to find homes in places other than my basement! I have a pair of stock BMW side cases, and mounting brackets. I may have a key for them but no guarantees. I know BMW will sell you tumblers and keys for them separately. If you have a 99 F650, you know how easily these come off the bike, so extras are always useful :) I also have a slightly used handlebar, brake and clutch handle and break and clutch cables. They're not new, but if you need spare parts for a trip or something, they'll do nicely. I also have the top-case mounting base. Free for the taking. I'm in Paoli, PA. E-mail me offlist at andy {at} lauppe.org if you want them and we can arrange a pickup. Andy Lauppe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100305/37f4fb74/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 15:20:24 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:20:24 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Toyota Secretive On 'Black Box' Data In-Reply-To: References: <4B9084D0.8000606@ptd.net> <4B904324.8869.52A8CE5@localhost> Message-ID: On 3/5/10, Wayne Woodruff wrote: > > >Be sure to thank the Movie and Recording Industry for the DMCA (Or > >something like that.) They basically have blocked any "unencryping" > >of encrypted data or reverse engineering. > > > You're thinking DRM - Digital Rights Management. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management No. DMCA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act It says you don't want to investigate it, or reverse engineer it cause you never own or control it, ONLY they do. DRM is the control method. DMCA stops people from unencrypting it since it is not yours. Pig F'r.s -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 15:23:14 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:23:14 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Toyota Secretive On 'Black Box' Data In-Reply-To: <4B90AECD.28646.6CF19B8@localhost> References: <4B904324.8869.52A8CE5@localhost> <4B90AECD.28646.6CF19B8@localhost> Message-ID: On 3/5/10, Joe Dille wrote: > > However, that is against the law. > > > > > That's a fine point, Fine point, but you go to jail. Jail sucks. Plus they can take all your stuff to "cover their damages". I would not say those to are "fine". but not the one I was trying to make. One would > think someone at NHTSA would have thought to subpoena the black box > from the cars that crashed vs. calling the head of the company to > congress. I admit the head of the company makes for better press, > but provides less data. Your a Doug Raymond clone???? ;);) It is all about theater and a GOOD performance so you go back on the gravy train. For good measure burecrats are not attackable. They are not elected, they are hired and stick forever once below the top dude or dudette. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Mar 5 15:26:29 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:26:29 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW Snowmobile & Sidecar References: <1A89FC9457E148B796A609A50659D06D@dellfe483b726d> <80e3635e1003041614v502960a4ge314726b5a352da1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <66A1360DB0AD4265BDDA395B7C9A7B62@dellfe483b726d> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_i_AovfzNXgQ/S4IB6vQOPxI/AAAAAAABFSk/uf6V3394_MM/s1600-h/tumblr_kvtzmaHvyj1qz63qno1_500.jpg > > While I enjoy looking upon sidecar rigs, I have never desired to drive > one. I believe there is strong foundation for the saying "like a > third wheel." This nifty sled is another thing entirely. I don't > know if it actually works, but I'm certainly diggin' the idea of it. > > Sidecar crazy indeed. > Brad Jacoby Joe & Brad, Oh, I forgot to tell you guys, that this is how a sidecarist gets his winter "fix" when there is two feet of snow on the ground. The belt track actually returns and loops around the rear wheel. I believe to steer this rig one must use plenty of "Body English" if you know what I mean. Todd From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 15:32:21 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:32:21 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: On 3/5/10, Gerry Cavanaugh wrote: > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > > I want your thoughts and your feedback and pass on my email to your friends > > as I will need to keep track of all those participating. Also, Bob will > > need a head count for ordering the food. I will be very disappointed if we > > don't gather up at least 250 riders, so what do you say ! > > > Paul Pollio and I will also be in attendance. Hell if we can't beat > them in mileage we will kill them with participation. Don't forget > that the MOA Mileage Cont*st will be in operation during that time > frame. So, we can recruit new members to increase the participation numbers? Fresh ankles to attack? New blood? Woo Hooo!!! Make sure we have some blank forms. Everyone be nice and act fairly normal so they are not scared, and we will show them the goat LATER. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 16:18:58 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:18:58 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Economics in action... Message-ID: Rather impressive dramitization of the number of people falling out of work over time. And where there still is work. It maybe "fly over" territory, but not as many are out of work there. This is really quite incredible. A visual depiction of unemployment, by County, for the entire United States , over the last 2.5 years. It is Amazing to watch. Click the link, and then "Play" in the center of the map, and watch it change by month. http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html Youtube of it "all squnched down" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J28tLOpzfpA Interesting that the "North Slope" looks good. Plus Ohahu is better than the rest of Hawaii. Looks like some of the surrounds to DC are still good. Plus SouthEast Louisianna. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Mar 5 16:31:35 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:31:35 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Festival, Need Your Help ! References: <81cff.11817c52.38c1c026@aol.com> Message-ID: <4171A61513824CDEA805DA4BBA7E54F7@dellfe483b726d> In a message dated 3/4/2010 10:45:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: Also, Some of you met Dave Crank on last years Vintage Ride. He rode the Vellocette Venom and plays a variety of instruments even built his own studio at one time. I've heard his music and he is very good. Todd ============================================ I'm going to need to work at it to come up with another BMW to ride, but I may be able to. Does Mr Crank also have a Beemer to ride? Roddy Yes, Dave has an R75/5 and a K75. I'm recruiting him for the Guinness Ride too. Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100305/e333c8ca/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 16:34:25 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:34:25 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cars from back in the day when they were REAL STEEL Message-ID: http://www.medulinka.at/alldownload/Real_Steel!.pps (WS ~5MB) Needs audio for the cool guitar work. THNX to Littel Bob for the tip to search for it. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Mar 5 17:35:02 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:35:02 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: Paul Pollio and I will also be in attendance. Hell if we can't beat them in mileage we will kill them with participation. Don't forget that the MOA Mileage Cont*st will be in operation during that time frame. I will be collecting forms at that time so be there or be square. Don't forget we are Mac-Pac, #289 and my single signature will complete the signing requirement other than you must sign at the bottom of the form. The new dealership can also sign the forms so come on ya'll. Gerry Cavanaugh Gerry & Paul, Great, we will be looking for you and if you come across any BMW riders on the way over, round them up for the ride too ! Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Mar 5 18:38:40 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:38:40 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Festival, Need Your Help ! References: <5d7d.3802e682.38c00f21@aol.com> Message-ID: <479A3818DBF84C59AC6F1099EEC7E778@dellfe483b726d> Rolly and Todd Byrum performed at Father Folk last year. Unfortunately, because of threatening weather, there was only a small audience lucky enough to enjoy their great contributions. Better weather this time? We'll count on it. Roddy. OK Todd Byrum, you have been discovered hiding your musical talents. We need to hear from you and my guess is Tom Byrum is probably also a gifted musician. We need to sign you fellows up for the Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Band Video. Don't worry, Rolly & Roddy will orchestrate all of this and things will work out just fine. Any other bashful musically talented riders in our midst Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100305/57568993/attachment.html From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Mar 5 18:50:34 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:50:34 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Economics in action... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4B910C2A.24064.83BCEB6@localhost> > Rather impressive dramitization of the number of people falling out of > work over time. And where there still is work. It maybe "fly over" > territory, but not as many are out of work there. > > This is really quite incredible. A visual depiction of unemployment, > by County, for the entire United States , over the last 2.5 years. It > is Amazing to watch. > > Click the link, and then "Play" in the center of the map, and watch it > change by month. > > http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html > > That was interesting. It looks like Michigan and California were the first to go. Our little corner of PA hung on for a long time. Of course the DC area would be the last to loose employment. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 22:49:52 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:49:52 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now this is COORDINATION!! Message-ID: Two guys, one guitar body, and two necs. Stevie Ray and Jimmy Vaughn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onqzua4bRHY (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 22:51:22 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:51:22 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT or not. Eating involved: This is innovative thinking Message-ID: http://wondermark.com/601/ (WS) Chopsticks involved. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From hokiebells at aol.com Sat Mar 6 00:22:09 2010 From: hokiebells at aol.com (hokiebells at aol.com) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:22:09 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Riding Saturday or Sunday? Message-ID: <8CC8ADA318DA8DE-2C98-4B92@webmail-d077.sysops.aol.com> It is supposed to be almost warm on Saturday and Sunday - anyone going for a ride? Jay Scales From jasiii at earthlink.net Sat Mar 6 00:46:52 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:46:52 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <4B8EF0B9.5020108@ptd.net> Message-ID: >> >> He'll be in the back of a police car with a camera up his butt. >> > > Its' a GoPro HD unit I have now...it could probably fit a lot easier > than a handicam. > > > Chris Jaccarino Heck a 24" Polarid would fit fine (grin) Jim From jasiii at earthlink.net Sat Mar 6 01:09:32 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:09:32 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now this is COORDINATION!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wow... How many hours of practice must have gone into this Wow... Thanks Jim On 3/5/10 5:49 PM, "Brian Curry" wrote: > Two guys, one guitar body, and two necs. Stevie Ray and Jimmy Vaughn > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onqzua4bRHY > (WS) From Doug at pencader.com Sat Mar 6 01:19:04 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 20:19:04 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now this is COORDINATION!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <019a01cabccb$05234160$0f69c420$@com> The Spoonmeister wrote; >>> snips Two guys, one guitar body, and two necs. Stevie Ray and Jimmy Vaughn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onqzua4bRHY >>> end Brian, I saw SRV at the Mann about 2 weeks before his untimely death. He opened for Joe Cocker (zee mad-dogs and zee Englishman!) What a great show. Miss those days, don't you?? !! Looking forward to a nice ride tomorrow AND Sunday . . . aren't we all? Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From kaldewaay at live.com Sat Mar 6 02:12:58 2010 From: kaldewaay at live.com (Kaldewaay) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 21:12:58 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Labrador ride about Message-ID: Attending the Labrador pre-ride meeting will be: Jim, Matt, Ken, Gary, and maybe BMW Dick anybody else ? Sent from Alain Kaldewaay IPhone From wayne at 2zars.com Sat Mar 6 02:39:15 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:39:15 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT or not. Eating involved: This is innovative thinking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >http://wondermark.com/601/ >(WS) > >Chopsticks involved. I love Cheetos, I'm good with chopsticks. Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Sat Mar 6 03:01:05 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 22:01:05 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fell over, Daytona Day ? In-Reply-To: <80e3635e1003050705u2c8f725do3608bc4ea1692859@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121003041740v7da76f0bpb09db6472a1b81d3@mail.gmail.com> <4a4431121003041759s2b97c65bwa9af22c2498eed21@mail.gmail.com> <4a4431121003041820i3dbf123cs109a862521eb273@mail.gmail.com> <4a4431121003050602o784912d8y3727f3ba2c0f0ab1@mail.gmail.com> <80e3635e1003050705u2c8f725do3608bc4ea1692859@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a4431121003051901l41cf77e0i76fb1ff3fd1277a7@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Brad Jacoby wrote: > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Dan Whitfield wrote: >> Very important question: ?The 100 AMP fuse is sized for a 32 volt >> system. How doese that effect it's fusability in a 12 volt system?? > > You may freely use fuses with higher voltage ratings in lower voltage > systems without doing any math. ?It'll burn at its specified amperage. > > The higher voltage rating is evidence of the fuse having adequate > insulation and such for that voltage. > > Brad Jacoby Thanks Brad!! I have replaced the 100 AMPER with a 175. I don't think that little 450 Suzuki starter can draw that much AMPS on it's most heroic day. So if that fuse blows, it has to be the dead short scenario. Dano From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Sat Mar 6 03:01:05 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 22:01:05 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fell over, Daytona Day ? In-Reply-To: <80e3635e1003050705u2c8f725do3608bc4ea1692859@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121003041740v7da76f0bpb09db6472a1b81d3@mail.gmail.com> <4a4431121003041759s2b97c65bwa9af22c2498eed21@mail.gmail.com> <4a4431121003041820i3dbf123cs109a862521eb273@mail.gmail.com> <4a4431121003050602o784912d8y3727f3ba2c0f0ab1@mail.gmail.com> <80e3635e1003050705u2c8f725do3608bc4ea1692859@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a4431121003051901l41cf77e0i76fb1ff3fd1277a7@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Brad Jacoby wrote: > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Dan Whitfield wrote: >> Very important question: ?The 100 AMP fuse is sized for a 32 volt >> system. How doese that effect it's fusability in a 12 volt system?? > > You may freely use fuses with higher voltage ratings in lower voltage > systems without doing any math. ?It'll burn at its specified amperage. > > The higher voltage rating is evidence of the fuse having adequate > insulation and such for that voltage. > > Brad Jacoby Thanks Brad!! I have replaced the 100 AMPER with a 175. I don't think that little 450 Suzuki starter can draw that much AMPS on it's most heroic day. So if that fuse blows, it has to be the dead short scenario. Dano From Braveirwin at aol.com Sat Mar 6 03:03:44 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 22:03:44 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sidecar Folk & Bluegrass Festival, Need Your Help ! Message-ID: <36ffe.1efb5b37.38c32010@aol.com> In a message dated 3/5/2010 1:38:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: OK Todd Byrum, you have been discovered hiding your musical talents ========================================= Actually, Todd did a marvelous rendition of Robert Service's poem about Blasphemous Bill. I haven't heard his music yet. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100305/d66925a6/attachment.html From wayne at 2zars.com Sat Mar 6 03:15:47 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:15:47 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now this is COORDINATION!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Two guys, one guitar body, and two necs. Stevie Ray and Jimmy Vaughn > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onqzua4bRHY >(WS) I will never forget the first time I heard SRV. I worked at Moore Products and was on my way home in Ambler. I had just turned on to Penn Ambler Rd from Pennlyn Blue Bell Pike and the radio (MMR or YSP, can't remember that detail) started playing SRV's version of Voodo Chile from "Couldn't Stand the Weather", which had just been released. I made the next turn to hit a record store to buy a copy. I was completely blown away (and still am) by SRV's version of a magnificent Hendrix song. Trivia question: SRV played lead guitar on what famous male pop star hit album in the early '80's? Useless hint: That same pop star utilized the saxophone talents of David Sanborn on his live album some 10 years earlier. That live album was taped at the Tower Theater. I'll probably start a trivia war that I can't possibly win, but WTF? Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com Sat Mar 6 04:27:31 2010 From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (Hugh McCann) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:27:31 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now this is COORDINATION!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <30EFCBED-1C14-4F7B-B039-6F16B15B7CE8@gmail.com> Bowie On iPhone , can't snip Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2010, at 10:15 PM, Wayne Woodruff wrote: > > >> Two guys, one guitar body, and two necs. Stevie Ray and Jimmy Vaughn >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onqzua4bRHY >> (WS) > > > I will never forget the first time I heard SRV. I worked at Moore > Products and was on my way home in Ambler. I had just turned on to > Penn Ambler Rd from Pennlyn Blue Bell Pike and the radio (MMR or YSP, > can't remember that detail) started playing SRV's version of Voodo > Chile from "Couldn't Stand the Weather", which had just been released. > I made the next turn to hit a record store to buy a copy. I was > completely blown away (and still am) by SRV's version of a magnificent > Hendrix song. > > Trivia question: > > SRV played lead guitar on what famous male pop star hit album in the > early '80's? > > Useless hint: > That same pop star utilized the saxophone talents of David Sanborn on > his live album some 10 years earlier. That live album was taped at > the Tower Theater. > > I'll probably start a trivia war that I can't possibly win, but WTF? > > > Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com > Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From rdlebout at gmail.com Sat Mar 6 12:45:56 2010 From: rdlebout at gmail.com (Roberts LeBoutillier) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 07:45:56 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Vote, today and tomorrow In-Reply-To: <4B90B8AD.13966.6F5AF16@localhost> References: <1f2c.30dea51d.38c2527c@aol.com> <4B90B8AD.13966.6F5AF16@localhost> Message-ID: <3f2b32881003060445p44cffdacyb7a6967e34c8c572@mail.gmail.com> >> In a message dated 3/5/2010 7:19:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> rdlebout at gmail.com writes: >> Joe, >> I put it on Linkedin, Twitter, Facebook and Yammer. So that accounts >> for five people. If they send it to others votes should go up >> quickly. It is more important to send to others than vote (yes, both >> is better) yourself. >> 445 votes this morning. >> ================================================= >> >> I've looked at this site three times and I can't figure out where >> this car design is or how to vote on it. Of course that is not >> unusual for someone who hasjust barely come down out of the trees. >> >> > Roddy, > > No problem. ?There is a "VOTE" button in the lower right hand corner. > ?I appreciate your help. > > Ride Safe, > > Joe > --------------------------------- > Joe Dille > Telford, PA USA > joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us > What happens on Earth, stays on Earth > http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm > > WTF http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/view/399 37.024 votes Please demand a recount. I will continue to vote because there is a 500 and a 529 and the 37,024 might get tossed out. http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/view/88154 is at 494 votes this morning -- Bobby LeBoutillier From piechota at argolis.org Sat Mar 6 13:03:45 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:03:45 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Vote, today and tomorrow In-Reply-To: <3f2b32881003060445p44cffdacyb7a6967e34c8c572@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f2c.30dea51d.38c2527c@aol.com> <4B90B8AD.13966.6F5AF16@localhost> <3f2b32881003060445p44cffdacyb7a6967e34c8c572@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B9252B1.7030104@argolis.org> Roberts LeBoutillier wrote: > WTF http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/view/399 > 37.024 votes > Please demand a recount. > I will continue to vote because there is a 500 and a 529 and the > 37,024 might get tossed out. > http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/view/88154 is at 494 votes this morning Never underestimate the power of the internet to vote for something you never intended to win just to see if you'll go through with it. Marketers (paging Jack W.), ignore this at your own risk. I'm sure Toyota will do as you suggest and toss out the Hugs N Kittens design for some reason and go with the next highest total, which amazingly won't feature kittens, horses, rainbows, and puppies. This isn't the best example due to the fraud involved, but it illustrates the point. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_the_Angry_Drunken_Dwarf "In 1998, People magazine ran an online poll to determine the most beautiful people in the world, where somebody facetiously entered Nasiff as a write-in candidate. Hank Nasiff won the contest, receiving hundreds of thousands of votes. At the time the online poll was launched, People led voters to believe that it would influence the print magazine's annual listing of "the most beautiful people." People refused to allow online votes to influence the magazine results. The poll was configured so that users could vote multiple times, by deleting a cookie given from the site. Many contestants had scripts written that would allow users to vote repeatedly. Other unlikely candidates in that polls' top 10 included They Might Be Giants keyboardist John Linnell and pro wrestler Ric Flair." From piechota at argolis.org Sat Mar 6 13:06:51 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:06:51 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Riding Saturday or Sunday? In-Reply-To: <8CC8ADA318DA8DE-2C98-4B92@webmail-d077.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC8ADA318DA8DE-2C98-4B92@webmail-d077.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B92536B.9090407@argolis.org> hokiebells at aol.com wrote: > It is supposed to be almost warm on Saturday and Sunday - anyone going > for a ride? Crickets... Personally, I'm trying to decide whether salt and snow melt are preferable to spring-skiing conditions. Did you have a plan in mind, or (like me) you just want to go for a ride and don't know where? From mrmevans at gmail.com Sat Mar 6 14:14:20 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:14:20 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moto In Need of Help Right Now Message-ID: <8296f6de1003060614q287defcdm83d9830833f8ab50@mail.gmail.com> My friend Steve just called me from the Wal-Mart at 422 & 202 with a flat tire on his Aprilia. I am up at the mountains snowbarding. Is there anyone on list with trailer that would be interested in helping on a rescue mission? His ph# is 215-783-5060. Thx, Michael Evans -- Sent from my mobile device Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From tpcutter at aol.com Sat Mar 6 14:30:39 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:30:39 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moto In Need of Help Right Now In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003060614q287defcdm83d9830833f8ab50@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003060614q287defcdm83d9830833f8ab50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC8B50BA33EFF0-47AC-AF21@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> <> That's pretty close to the M-P tire room. Anybody headed over there today? --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From oldmainlinehomes at gmail.com Sat Mar 6 14:44:47 2010 From: oldmainlinehomes at gmail.com (Kenn Brown) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:44:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moto In Need of Help Right Now In-Reply-To: <8CC8B50BA33EFF0-47AC-AF21@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> References: <8296f6de1003060614q287defcdm83d9830833f8ab50@mail.gmail.com> <8CC8B50BA33EFF0-47AC-AF21@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Kenn Brown spoke to Steve and is headed down the road to help him! (We live around the corner) On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Tom Cutter wrote: > > < aflat tire on his Aprilia. I am up at the mountains snowbarding. > Isthere anyone on list with trailer that would be interested in > helpingon a rescue mission? His ph# is 215-783-5060.Thx,Michael Evans>> > > That's pretty close to the M-P tire room. Anybody headed over there > today? > > -- > Tom Cutter > Yardley, PA > http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Kenn Brown EcoBroker Certified? Realtor Long and Foster Real Estate 92 Lancaster Ave., Devon, PA 19333 cell: 610.585.0011 fax 610.975.0216 OldMainLineHomes at Gmail.com Please consider the environment before printing this email. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100306/98c405dc/attachment.html From piechota at argolis.org Sat Mar 6 14:44:58 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:44:58 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moto In Need of Help Right Now In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003060614q287defcdm83d9830833f8ab50@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003060614q287defcdm83d9830833f8ab50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B926A6A.8030808@argolis.org> Michael Evans wrote: > My friend Steve just called me from the Wal-Mart at 422 & 202 with a > flat tire on his Aprilia. I am up at the mountains snowbarding. Is > there anyone on list with trailer that would be interested in helping > on a rescue mission? His ph# is 215-783-5060. Steve has tried some Fix-a-flat and someone is coming by with a compressor, so for the moment there's a plan in place. Good thing he broke down at WalMart. :) From mrmevans at gmail.com Sat Mar 6 15:25:22 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (mrmevans at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 15:25:22 +0000 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moto In Need of Help Right Now Message-ID: <1501521699-1267889109-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-881431692-@bda788.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> (Top post) Love the way the PAC comes together! You guys are fantastic. -Michael Evans ------Original Message------ From: Matt Piechota To: mrmevans at gmail.com Cc: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Cc: Steve Murphy Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Moto In Need of Help Right Now Sent: Mar 6, 2010 9:44 AM Michael Evans wrote: > My friend Steve just called me from the Wal-Mart at 422 & 202 with a > flat tire on his Aprilia. I am up at the mountains snowbarding. Is > there anyone on list with trailer that would be interested in helping > on a rescue mission? His ph# is 215-783-5060. Steve has tried some Fix-a-flat and someone is coming by with a compressor, so for the moment there's a plan in place. Good thing he broke down at WalMart. :) Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA (Sent via Blackberry) From jack.riepe at gmail.com Sat Mar 6 15:34:41 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:34:41 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moto In Need of Help Right Now In-Reply-To: <1501521699-1267889109-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-881431692-@bda788.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <1501521699-1267889109-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-881431692-@bda788.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Dear Mike: It's 10:28am and I just got this message. The plow guy has pushed the snow against the motorcycle bay door and I can't get the trailer out. I would need a couple of guys to help me shovel the bay out (snow is 3.5 feet high, 3 feet deep, and 12 feet long), and to then help me-man handle the trailer out into the yard. I'm willing to do this, but I cannot manage it on my own today. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby 610-719-8396 From piechota at argolis.org Sat Mar 6 15:39:02 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:39:02 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cars from back in the day when they were REAL STEEL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B927716.2050107@argolis.org> Brian Curry wrote: > http://www.medulinka.at/alldownload/Real_Steel!.pps > (WS ~5MB) > > Needs audio for the cool guitar work. > > THNX to Littel Bob for the tip to search for it. > I wonder how many now have fiberglass parts. :) Most parts for those are impossible to find. Hoods especially. From piechota at argolis.org Sat Mar 6 15:39:44 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:39:44 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moto In Need of Help Right Now In-Reply-To: References: <1501521699-1267889109-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-881431692-@bda788.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <4B927740.4000506@argolis.org> Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Mike: > > It's 10:28am and I just got this message. The plow guy has pushed the > snow against the motorcycle bay door and I can't get the trailer out. > I would need a couple of guys to help me shovel the bay out (snow is > 3.5 feet high, 3 feet deep, and 12 feet long), and to then help me-man > handle the trailer out into the yard. I'm willing to do this, but I > cannot manage it on my own today. > I just got a call from Steve, he's at a motorcycle shop getting a new tire. From stude_bmw_bill at verizon.net Sat Mar 6 16:12:54 2010 From: stude_bmw_bill at verizon.net (stude_bmw_bill at verizon.net) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:12:54 -0600 (CST) Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record Message-ID: <2059115751.108393.1267891974657.JavaMail.root@vms124.mailsrvcs.net> Mar 3, 2010 03:26:58 PM, motorrader at verizon.net wrote: Fellow Riders, Challenge #2 I want your thoughts and your feedback and pass on my email to your friends as I will need to keep track of all those participating. Also, Bob will need a head count for ordering the food. I will be very disappointed if we don't gather up at least 250 riders, so what do you say ! It's on my calendar, Todd. Keep in touch on this one. Let us know what time to meet there, etc. Bill Zane R-1100RT, et.al. _______________________________________________ From piechota at argolis.org Sat Mar 6 17:56:23 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:56:23 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts Message-ID: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> I've been thinking about putting a batch of t-shirts together for awhile now. I'm thinking something MAC-PAC-y (like the logo) on the front, and "Live to Ride, Ride to Eat" on the back (I love that corruption of the HD slogan). This email is just to get an idea of who'd be interested. If I get decent response, I'll start figuring out where to get them, how much, etc., etc. Someone might also think about doing a shirt for the World Record Ride, too. From motorrader at verizon.net Sat Mar 6 20:36:33 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:36:33 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> Message-ID: <97B56495C90247CB816FD753B0F79970@dellfe483b726d> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Piechota" To: Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 12:56 PM Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts > Someone might also think about doing a shirt for the World Record Ride, > too. Ride For The Cure, Ride For The Record ! It's a start. We need the creative types to take over after that. Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Sat Mar 6 20:56:13 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:56:13 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ride For The Cure, Ride For The Record, 2 May 2010 9 am References: <3D454DDD794043498137CD9F5D1C322E@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <1C963C31E8AC437A82F49E81BB42168D@dellfe483b726d> Todd - A couple of things . . . What is the record ? Record of what - 250 Motorcycles of the same marque ? Fox 29 News Michelle Buckman is married to the son of the owner of Spring Mount Ski Area, and I think she (they) live out this way. I can find out. Oh and did I hear T-shirts mentioned ? < signed > Larry LAWRENCE PHILLIPS / DESIGN SPRING MOUNTAIN, PA 19478 superlario at verizon.net Larry, I set you up hoping that T-shirt comment would get your attention ! Yes, lets talk about getting some shirts made for this occasion with Bob Jones @ MCC. Laura and I will be your first customers..............anybody else interest, please let us know now so we can plan.......For the rest of you, Larry Phillips makes a nice T-Shirt. The record we will be setting is: "The Largest Parade of BMW Motorcycles" temporarily held by Grass Roots BMW in Cape Girardeau, MO and previously held by an event in the town of Einsiedeln, Switzerland. Now, lets start working on Michelle Buckman and Fox 29 News !!!!! Also, BANNERS. I will probably be riding one of the sidecar rig and can mount a mast or two which can be used to hoist some banners, such as: Ride For The Cure, Mac-Pac, Pennsylvania Airheads, Delaware Valley BMW Riders, New Sweden BMW Riders, Dutch Country BMW Riders, R90S Sport Riders, etc. etc..... Just a thought. Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100306/dd8e853a/attachment.html From piechota at argolis.org Sat Mar 6 21:07:54 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:07:54 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC: Fried Chicken Roundup In-Reply-To: <4B2D6220.7090801@argolis.org> References: <4B2D6220.7090801@argolis.org> Message-ID: <4B92C42A.4010901@argolis.org> Matt Piechota wrote: > > I thought I'd catalog the fried chicken discussion, since it seems to > have slowed down: > Fingers, Wings, Other things, http://www.fwot.com/ Ridge Pike, Conshy. > Seems to be mostly wings and fingers, although southern fried is an > option for both. > > Country Fare, http://www.countryfarerestaurant.com/index.php, Myerstown, > PA. Pressure cooked, I'll give it a shot. :) > > Wards Restaurant, 610-869-9475, West Grove, PA. Chicken on alternating > Fridays. > > Delilah's Southern Cuisine, Reading Terminal Market (among others), > Philly. She was on Food network for mac 'n' cheese. > > Crown Fried Chicken, 4002 Market (University City), Philly. Edde's > recommendation, a day-time trip only. :) Mabel's Barbecue in West Chester, I found today, has some decent fried chicken. It's on E Market St kitty-corner from the Vespa dealer. I didn't try the ribs, pork, etc., but the folks I was talking to loved the pulled pork. The chicken was fried fresh when I got there, which took 20 minutes but worth the wait. One note, it's a take-out place for the most part. There are two small tables in front, but that's it. http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=f4g&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&resnum=0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=mabel%27s+barbeque+west+chester&fb=1&gl=us&hq=mabel%27s+barbeque&hnear=west+chester&cid=12112153785161334778 From 321design at gmail.com Sat Mar 6 21:25:39 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:25:39 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC: Fried Chicken Roundup In-Reply-To: <4B92C42A.4010901@argolis.org> References: <4B2D6220.7090801@argolis.org> <4B92C42A.4010901@argolis.org> Message-ID: <74d2fbe11003061325j498e5310u1e223bb2c0522123@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Matt Piechota wrote: > Matt Piechota wrote: > > Mabel's Barbecue in West Chester, I found today, has some decent fried > chicken. It's on E Market St kitty-corner from the Vespa dealer. I > didn't try the ribs, pork, etc., but the folks I was talking to loved > the pulled pork. The chicken was fried fresh when I got there, which > took 20 minutes but worth the wait. > > One note, it's a take-out place for the most part. There are two small > tables in front, but that's it. > > http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=f4g&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&resnum=0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=mabel%27s+barbeque+west+chester&fb=1&gl=us&hq=mabel%27s+barbeque&hnear=west+chester&cid=12112153785161334778 -Mabel's is my default B-B-Q when I want a brisket sandwich or don't want to go all the way to Jimmy's; nice savory flavor and tender. I always ask for some slaw to put on top. Haven't tried the fried chicken but will. Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100306/7f6ccbaf/attachment.html From rcavalie at verizon.net Sat Mar 6 22:09:21 2010 From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:09:21 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> Message-ID: <003901cabd79$acfc0350$06f409f0$@net> Matt, I'd buy a MacPac T-shirt if it looked cool! I like your suggestion "Live to Ride, Ride to Eat". What about the words "Live to Ride to Eat to" in a circle around the MacPac roundel so that the last "to" is right before the first word "Live". Then the circle would be unbroken! That's just a thought, I'm happy with your original suggestion. Rick Cavaliere -----Original Message----- From: mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com [mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com] On Behalf Of Matt Piechota Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 12:56 PM To: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts SNIP I'm thinking something MAC-PAC-y (like the logo) on the front, and "Live to Ride, Ride to Eat" on the back (I love that corruption of the HD slogan). This email is just to get an idea of who'd be interested. If I get decent response, I'll start figuring out where to get them, how much, etc., etc. snip From jaburke4 at verizon.net Sat Mar 6 22:36:08 2010 From: jaburke4 at verizon.net (John Burkhauser) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:36:08 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <003901cabd79$acfc0350$06f409f0$@net> References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> <003901cabd79$acfc0350$06f409f0$@net> Message-ID: NICE idea! John Burkhauser jaburke4 at verizon.net From jaburke4 at verizon.net Sat Mar 6 22:41:28 2010 From: jaburke4 at verizon.net (John Burkhauser) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:41:28 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cool BMW Motorrad Concept 6 Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRfcYY6YiYA&NR=1 John Burkhauser jaburke4 at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100306/53866306/attachment.html From mrmevans at gmail.com Sat Mar 6 23:06:05 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:06:05 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003061506j3bc40f0aw52094e6894cb75e4@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Matt Piechota wrote: > I've been thinking about putting a batch of t-shirts together for awhile > now. ?I'm thinking something MAC-PAC-y (like the logo) on the front, and > "Live to Ride, Ride to Eat" on the back (I love that corruption of the > HD slogan). > > This email is just to get an idea of who'd be interested. ?If I get > decent response, I'll start figuring out where to get them, how much, > etc., etc. > > Someone might also think about doing a shirt for the World Record Ride, too. > _______________________________________________ Hey Matt, I'd be interested in a shirt. Will it have a Suzuki logo on it anywhere? -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From mrmevans at gmail.com Sat Mar 6 23:08:52 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:08:52 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cool BMW Motorrad Concept 6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8296f6de1003061508x65bd9e8el703a2e31a7301a99@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:41 PM, John Burkhauser wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRfcYY6YiYA&NR=1 > > A six-cylinder?? What is ti trying to be??? A Goldwing ;^) -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From jaburke4 at verizon.net Sat Mar 6 22:39:48 2010 From: jaburke4 at verizon.net (John Burkhauser) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:39:48 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW S1000 RR. Dinner for RR. Message-ID: Happy boy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cM9S2AzU28&feature=sub John Burkhauser jaburke4 at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100306/0b7d1c72/attachment.html From chrisjac at ptd.net Sun Mar 7 00:51:23 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:51:23 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003061506j3bc40f0aw52094e6894cb75e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> <8296f6de1003061506j3bc40f0aw52094e6894cb75e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B92F88B.2090402@ptd.net> Michael Evans wrote: > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Matt Piechota wrote: > >> I've been thinking about putting a batch of t-shirts together for awhile >> now. I'm thinking something MAC-PAC-y (like the logo) on the front, and >> "Live to Ride, Ride to Eat" on the back (I love that corruption of the >> HD slogan). >> >> This email is just to get an idea of who'd be interested. If I get >> decent response, I'll start figuring out where to get them, how much, >> etc., etc. >> >> Someone might also think about doing a shirt for the World Record Ride, too. >> _______________________________________________ >> > > Hey Matt, > > I'd be interested in a shirt. Will it have a Suzuki logo on it anywhere? > > Am in as well with the "boring" MAC-PAC logo. I will order more than 1 or 2 if we have Honda and Triumph logos as well. Chris From chrisjac at ptd.net Sun Mar 7 00:56:03 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:56:03 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cool BMW Motorrad Concept 6 In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003061508x65bd9e8el703a2e31a7301a99@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003061508x65bd9e8el703a2e31a7301a99@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B92F9A3.3020207@ptd.net> Michael Evans wrote: > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:41 PM, John Burkhauser wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRfcYY6YiYA&NR=1 >> >> >> > > A six-cylinder?? What is ti trying to be??? A Goldwing ;^) > The Goldwing is a flat boxer style six. The Concept 6 is an line 6 more like a Honda CBX or a Kawaski Voyager. But once again, the Germans following plans laid out by the Japanese. :) Chris Jaccarino From chrisjac at ptd.net Sun Mar 7 00:57:32 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:57:32 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW S1000 RR. Dinner for RR. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B92F9FC.8040502@ptd.net> John Burkhauser wrote: > Happy boy! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cM9S2AzU28&feature=sub > > That's a great ad. Chris Jaccarino From Braveirwin at aol.com Sun Mar 7 02:07:45 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:07:45 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ride For The Cure, Ride For The Record, 2 May 2010 9 am Message-ID: <6728c.68b2f39d.38c46471@aol.com> In a message dated 3/6/2010 3:56:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: ..............anybody else interest, please let us know now so we can plan....... =================================== I'll take a tee shirt. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100306/41cc1349/attachment.html From Braveirwin at aol.com Sun Mar 7 02:16:52 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:16:52 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts Message-ID: <677cb.11d2e223.38c46694@aol.com> In a message dated 3/6/2010 7:51:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, chrisjac at ptd.net writes: the "boring" MAC-PAC logo. ========================================= Hey! What's with that kind of comment? I like that logo. If you think you can design a better one, I'd be glad to look at it. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100306/9abbb65e/attachment.html From mrmevans at gmail.com Sun Mar 7 03:19:11 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 22:19:11 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> <8296f6de1003061506j3bc40f0aw52094e6894cb75e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003061919l2cfc8be0l539f5326220f389e@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Dick wrote: > The suzi logo goes on the front of your jockeys right next to the potato > Dear Dick, First of all, I'll try not to put to much energy into analyzing your obsession with the bulge in my pants, but hey--thanks for noticing anyway. Whatever works for you...perhaps it just goes with the name? ;^) Second, I was never a big fan of the potato thing. I'm generally a kind of private guy so the thought of all those eyes that close to the man berries kind of freaks me out a bit (I know...moan, moan...awful pun...I'll be here all week...try the veal). -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Sun Mar 7 03:22:11 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 22:22:11 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Mac-Pacers trophy at THE RAT'S HOLE SHOW Message-ID: <4a4431121003061922t19ed8ad9t5aeb967f368bc9f@mail.gmail.com> Good news Gentlemen! Tom Mohn's ECO with paint job depicting the UNIVERSE. Won 4th place in THE RAT'S HOLE CUSTOM BIKE SHOW in the MOST UNUSUAL class. This is a major shift in attitude for this bike show (Which is the USA's biggest). When I put my ECO in the show 4 years ago, they grouped me with the trikes carrying privys. ECO Dano Daytona From jlburt at jlburt.com Sun Mar 7 03:42:35 2010 From: jlburt at jlburt.com (Jon Burt) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:42:35 -0600 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now this is COORDINATION!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201003070343.o273hBmT006068@dpmailrp05.doteasy.com> At 04:49 PM 3/5/2010, Brian Curry wrote: >Two guys, one guitar body, and two necs. Stevie Ray and Jimmy Vaughn >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onqzua4bRHY (WS) And on the same theme, this is coordination as well! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjXN3OLgoqs Jon K75RT Chicago _______________________________________________________ Unlimited Disk, Data Transfer, PHP/MySQL Domain Hosting http://www.doteasy.com From gary5410 at aol.com Sun Mar 7 03:54:51 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:54:51 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen demolition continues! Message-ID: <8CC8BC112DDD241-5E50-131A8@webmail-m039.sysops.aol.com> The demolition continues........ http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#799153095_csoR4 Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Sun Mar 7 03:59:19 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 03:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <2145548590.12537781267934177724.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <694286501.12538301267934359727.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > > I'd be interested in a shirt. Will it have a Suzuki logo on it anywhere? > > >Am in as well with the "boring" MAC-PAC logo. I will order more than >1 or 2 if we have Honda and Triumph logos as well. With the diversity of bikes owned by members of Mac-Paccers it might be cool to have the Typical MAc PAc logo on the front, and then a big mix of other makes on the back. Off the top of my head I know we have owners of Honda, Kawi, Suzuki, Yamaha, Harley, BSA, Triumph, Matchless, Simplex, Royal Enfield, Vincent, Ducati, MV Augusta, and I am sure there are more that I missed. Maybe have on the back "Supporting Cast", just a thought. I also like the slogan "Live to Ride, Ride to Breakfast" but eat works well too. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From gary5410 at aol.com Sun Mar 7 04:23:38 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:23:38 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <694286501.12538301267934359727.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <694286501.12538301267934359727.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CC8BC51858AD3D-5E50-13491@webmail-m039.sysops.aol.com> << Maybe have on the back "Supporting Cast", just a thought.>> I like that! Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From jlburt at jlburt.com Sun Mar 7 03:52:45 2010 From: jlburt at jlburt.com (Jon Burt) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:52:45 -0600 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT or not. Eating involved: This is innovative thinking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201003070353.o273rOxm009140@dpmailrp05.doteasy.com> At 08:39 PM 3/5/2010, Wayne Woodruff wrote: > >http://wondermark.com/601/ (WS) > >>Chopsticks involved. >I love Cheetos, I'm good with chopsticks. Wayne, I read somewhere (so it must be true) that the chemicals used to make the exploding dye-bombs used to catch bank robbers is extracted from Cheetos. Regarding the wondermark.com link above, scroll down the page to the Stargate Studios link (or see here for some damn neat green screen effects -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clnozSXyF4k&feature=player_embedded ). Jon K75RT Chicago _______________________________________________________ Unlimited Disk, Data Transfer, PHP/MySQL Domain Hosting http://www.doteasy.com From darkside at ix.netcom.com Sun Mar 7 12:04:23 2010 From: darkside at ix.netcom.com (Darkside) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:04:23 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cool BMW Motorrad Concept 6 Message-ID: <18867155.1267963463119.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> -----Original Message----- >From: Chris >Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Cool BMW Motorrad Concept 6 > > >The Goldwing is a flat boxer style six. The Concept 6 is an line 6 more >like a Honda CBX or a Kawaski Voyager. But once again, the Germans >following plans laid out by the Japanese. :) > i thought the benelli came before the honda... nyet? risitas! eric From kgbruce at verizon.net Sun Mar 7 12:53:51 2010 From: kgbruce at verizon.net (Ken Bruce) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 07:53:51 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> <8296f6de1003061506j3bc40f0aw52094e6894cb75e4@mail.gmail.com> <4B92F88B.2090402@ptd.net> Message-ID: > Am in as well with the "boring" MAC-PAC logo. I will order more than > 1 or 2 if we have Honda and Triumph logos as well. > > Chris > _______________________________________________ I'll order the "more than 1 or 2" that Chris doesn't order if the most excellent MAC-PAC logo isn't mucked up with a bunch of other bike logos..... ;P Ken Bruce From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Mar 7 13:01:55 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:01:55 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW S1000 RR. Dinner for RR. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4B935D73.17082.11495478@localhost> > Happy boy! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cM9S2AzU28&feature=sub > That was cool. Motorsport is the proper color for that bike. You can keep the acid green. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Mar 7 13:05:01 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:05:01 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen demolition continues! In-Reply-To: <8CC8BC112DDD241-5E50-131A8@webmail-m039.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B935E2D.13551.114C29D9@localhost> > > The demolition continues........ > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#799153095_csoR4 > > To make an omelet you gotta break some eggs. Good job. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Sun Mar 7 13:05:51 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:05:51 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen demolition continues! References: <8CC8BC112DDD241-5E50-131A8@webmail-m039.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20F4E4B58F7B4E78B6325CAB6D29E38D@home.robinson.org> ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Christman The demolition continues........ http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#799153095_csoR4 _______________________________________________ Hell of a termite problem you got going on there Gary! ;-) Jim Robinson West Chester PA From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Sun Mar 7 13:01:17 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:01:17 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Disappearing Car Doors Message-ID: <42AABFD85B5B418FB57DDB52FF48E974@home.robinson.org> WAY COOL! :-) http://www.wimp.com/cardoor/ Jim Robinson West Chester PA From 321design at gmail.com Sun Mar 7 13:32:41 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:32:41 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW S1000 RR. Dinner for RR. In-Reply-To: <4B935D73.17082.11495478@localhost> References: <4B935D73.17082.11495478@localhost> Message-ID: <74d2fbe11003070532x5efea8aehf927186f2a9a3556@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Joe Dille wrote: > > > > Happy boy! > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cM9S2AzU28&feature=sub > > > That was cool. Motorsport is the proper color for that bike. You > can keep the acid green. > > Whataya mean? Acid green is an awesome color. -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100307/25c6c7f9/attachment.html From piechota at argolis.org Sun Mar 7 13:38:52 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:38:52 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW S1000 RR. Dinner for RR. In-Reply-To: <74d2fbe11003070532x5efea8aehf927186f2a9a3556@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B935D73.17082.11495478@localhost> <74d2fbe11003070532x5efea8aehf927186f2a9a3556@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B93AC6C.3010906@argolis.org> Rob Haut wrote: > Whataya mean? Acid green is an awesome color. > Maybe in moderation. :) If I were buying one, I'd probably do the silver or motorsport colors. Of course, in 2011 if they make a 'Biarritz' Blue[0] one... [0] Biarritz Blue http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/bikes/urban/r1200r/media/color_R1200R_06_preview.jpg From piechota at argolis.org Sun Mar 7 14:04:10 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:04:10 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo (was: T-shirts) In-Reply-To: References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> <8296f6de1003061506j3bc40f0aw52094e6894cb75e4@mail.gmail.com> <4B92F88B.2090402@ptd.net> Message-ID: <4B93B25A.2000302@argolis.org> Ken Bruce wrote: >> Am in as well with the "boring" MAC-PAC logo. I will order more than >> 1 or 2 if we have Honda and Triumph logos as well. > I'll order the "more than 1 or 2" that Chris doesn't order if the most > excellent MAC-PAC logo isn't mucked up with a bunch of other bike logos..... > ;P I was thinking about the logo the other day too. It came down to two thoughts: * The current version (at least the one on the web page) could use some freshening up. Not really a design update, but just a 're-do'. The light flare on the roundel is pretty chunky. Looking at the mug though, that looks a lot better. Maybe the one on the website is just a badly-saved JPG or something. A nice ray-traced 3d version wouldn't go amiss though. :) * I have a (very) minor objection to the crescent wrench. My Dad taught me that the crescent wrench is for when you don't have the *RIGHT* tool for the job. Maybe it should be a torque wrench or BMW special tool # 24-50604-001 (T-45 torx socket, costing only $45 at your authorized dealer). :) I wouldn't mind a non-denominational version either. I hadn't noticed it before, but the background logo on the web page isn't bad. Simple and recognizable. Maybe leave the subtle roundel colors in the center as a nod to the BMW 'heritage' and paste in a wrench and fork (or SPOON!) across the center. http://macpack.largiader.com/mpback.gif (Web czars: is there non-faded version so those with iffy eyes can see it? :)) From 321design at gmail.com Sun Mar 7 14:07:37 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:07:37 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW S1000 RR. Dinner for RR. In-Reply-To: <4B93AC6C.3010906@argolis.org> References: <4B935D73.17082.11495478@localhost> <74d2fbe11003070532x5efea8aehf927186f2a9a3556@mail.gmail.com> <4B93AC6C.3010906@argolis.org> Message-ID: <74d2fbe11003070607s6d9fa6e1j4eea8bd5172da1b3@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Matt Piechota wrote: > Rob Haut wrote: > > Whataya mean? Acid green is an awesome color. >> >> Maybe in moderation. :) > > If I were buying one, I'd probably do the silver or motorsport colors. Of > course, in 2011 if they make a 'Biarritz' Blue[0] one... > > [0] Biarritz Blue > > http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/bikes/urban/r1200r/media/color_R1200R_06_preview.jpg > Matt, You have alluded to getting an S1000RR several times, If I'm reading between the lines correctly, I'd say you are seriously considering one - Just do it. -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100307/bd48080f/attachment.html From ladyvol at fastmail.fm Sun Mar 7 14:26:57 2010 From: ladyvol at fastmail.fm (Jill McCarley) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:26:57 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> Message-ID: <1267972017.24530.1363534075@webmail.messagingengine.com> \ On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:56 -0500, "Matt Piechota" wrote: > I've been thinking about putting a batch of t-shirts together for awhile > now. I'm thinking something MAC-PAC-y (like the logo) on the front, and > "Live to Ride, Ride to Eat" on the back (I love that corruption of the > HD slogan). SNIP I was just in a discussion with El Hubbo, who upon hearing about a possible MacPac t-shirt, immediately began whining about wanting one, too. Above his keening, I gently explained that he wasn't a member and I was not at all certain he'd be allowed a shirt. He responded "But I (edit) a MacPac'r. Doesn't that entitle me to a shirt?" I responded, "That would qualify every sheep in a 3 state area to wear an official shirt." He then burst into tears. So put me down for two. Please. Jill ---------------------------- '90 R100GS '06 K1200 R "The Screaming Meanie" Jill McCarley, MD Child and Adolescent Psychiatry Member, Ketchup Advisory Board "Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness." From tpcutter at aol.com Sun Mar 7 14:35:36 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:35:36 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <1267972017.24530.1363534075@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> <1267972017.24530.1363534075@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <8CC8C1A9635955B-54AC-1BE17@webmail-d004.sysops.aol.com> <> No! One shirt to your house, in your size. No shirt for non-members, no matter who they (expletive reluctantly deleted for anybody on the planet who never heard the word fu*k.) Tell el Hubbo to cough up his membership $$ first, then he can buy shirts for every kind of livestock he wants. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From 321design at gmail.com Sun Mar 7 15:06:59 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:06:59 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Wine suggestion with moto content Message-ID: <74d2fbe11003070706k4400b8abla3a8e348cef5486d@mail.gmail.com> While wandering the State Store in search of wine if I don't know what to buy, I look for a label I like (being a visual person) and something <$12.00. I found??a pretty good Merlot with a very cool label - Motos Liberty:?http://motosliberty.com/Motoscabs.htm??great deal for a sawbuck. Another wine worth getting if only for a label that looks like a Roger Corman movie poster is:?Cycle Buff Beauty Wine http://www.bevlaw.com/bevlog/wine/cycle-buff-beauty-wine Given to me as a gift, I've yet to try it but keep it around for the label. Unfortunately not available in PA. After the wine is gone, I'll save the labels. -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From pasegc at gmail.com Sun Mar 7 15:34:53 2010 From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:34:53 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo (was: T-shirts) In-Reply-To: <4B93B25A.2000302@argolis.org> References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> <8296f6de1003061506j3bc40f0aw52094e6894cb75e4@mail.gmail.com> <4B92F88B.2090402@ptd.net> <4B93B25A.2000302@argolis.org> Message-ID: Caution to all about the logo. As you may or may not know BMW is clamping down on the use of there symbol. BMW MOA has been in touch with BMWE AG and are trying to work out issues concerning the symbol and lettering. I just forwarded a letter to "The Spoon" concering these items. I also have a disc and other info that was sent to me as the POC. I suggest that you don't make changes without checking this info. We do not need a leagal issue. If you want to see the original Mac-Pac embroidery patch check out my shirt some time as my wife Sue made the very first one with the spoon and fork and a wider black band around the outside. This was presented to the shirt maker but it was changed to the wrench and fork and a dark purple band to get away from the BMW conflict. Unfortunately Sue has deleted the original from her embroidery card and would have to start over. As stated the one she made me is on a yellow/white dress shirt. Gerry Cavanaugh Coatesville, PA From tpcutter at aol.com Sun Mar 7 16:00:21 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:00:21 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] ON article Message-ID: <8CC8C266CDE6533-2F20-182A6@webmail-m023.sysops.aol.com> A friend sent this to me today: "You've probably heard by now but there is a 1 page spread on page 75 of the March BMW-ON which highlights your new FOTM award." Since I don't get the ON, does anybody have a March issue and a scanner who could send me a copy of Page 75? I'd like to show my mom, y'know. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From jack.riepe at gmail.com Sun Mar 7 16:54:14 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:54:14 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> <8296f6de1003061506j3bc40f0aw52094e6894cb75e4@mail.gmail.com> <4B92F88B.2090402@ptd.net> Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Frienfds and Colleagues: Whoever is ordering these shirts, please be advised that I support the old, established, bullet-proof Mac Pac logo and would like two of these shirts, one in 3x and one in 2x. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From wayne at 2zars.com Sun Mar 7 16:52:44 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:52:44 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen demolition continues! In-Reply-To: <8CC8BC112DDD241-5E50-131A8@webmail-m039.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC8BC112DDD241-5E50-131A8@webmail-m039.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <2em7p51o9g3c67hqbnr2ee480218gj1qg3@4ax.com> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:54:51 -0500, you wrote: > >The demolition continues........ > >http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#799153095_csoR4 > Very nice! Removing that partition wall does a world of good! Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Sun Mar 7 20:58:01 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:58:01 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Gary Christman Broke Down Message-ID: Coming back from our Labrador planning meeting Gary's R1200GS Adv. starting making a grinding noise near rear of Trans. Limped into Oxford with him and when he got off smoke was coming out from behind trans. Looking under the boot we could see front U-joint was shot causing to rub on inside of rear swingarm. Gary got a hold of BMW Roadside assistance for pickup back to home, and told me to go ride as he would be fine. I told him to call me if he needed anything. Gary give us a shout to let us know you made it home ok.. Jim Robinson West Chester PA 1995 BMW R1100GS Adventure "Little Enos" 1996 BMW K1100RS "The Red Baron" 2002 Ducati ST4S "Corbin Special" 2004 BMW R1150GS Adventure "Big Enos" From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Sun Mar 7 23:38:25 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:38:25 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Gary Christman Broke Down References: Message-ID: Got this from Alan K and also got call from Gary that he is on his way home...... ----- Original Message ----- From: Kaldewaay Just talked to Gary he is picked-up and on his way to Hermys. Shame being so closed but after the meeting Susie and I went for a ride about to one of HD joints and had a couple beers. Gary should have called me I would have trailerd up to hermys. Nice job Jim, Ken setting the bar so high for the requirments of joining the group ride to Labrador Happy Valley Goose Bay. Please see detailed photos from the group, coming soon. For more info on this contact any of us. Sent from Alain Kaldewaay IPhone From rogers.george at gmail.com Sun Mar 7 23:58:54 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:58:54 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] did you see this bmw ad? Message-ID: <1f13c3621003071558k3bb9953euf39106b5206b30e6@mail.gmail.com> sorry if it's been around... http://www.dpccars.com/motorcycle-10/03-07-10page-BMW-S1000-RR-dinner-tablecloth-trick.htm Best wishes, Rogers George Newark, DE http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http://serenitytravelnewark.com From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Mar 8 00:00:12 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:00:12 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Gary Christman Broke Down In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC8C6975AB67F0-6654-1ED42@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> Bike is at Hermy's and I am home! Thanks! Gary Christman Broken '07 R 1200 GS Adventure <> Jim Robinson West Chester PA From Doug at pencader.com Mon Mar 8 00:16:13 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 19:16:13 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> <8296f6de1003061506j3bc40f0aw52094e6894cb75e4@mail.gmail.com> <4B92F88B.2090402@ptd.net> Message-ID: <026a01cabe54$921af150$b650d3f0$@com> Jack wrote; >>> snips > Dear Esteemed Frienfds and Colleagues: > Whoever is ordering these shirts, please be advised that I support the > old, established, bullet-proof Mac Pac logo and would like two of > these shirts, one in 3x and one in 2x. >>> end Jack, That's 3x as in "XXX", right? Do you have to be 21 to order those? Please put me down for two in XL. Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From kgbruce at verizon.net Mon Mar 8 00:20:23 2010 From: kgbruce at verizon.net (Ken Bruce) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:20:23 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Gary Christman Broke Down References: <8CC8C6975AB67F0-6654-1ED42@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4A1EC3F7E6B94B6180C0FBE4BB085401@lenovo4903350b> > Bike is at Hermy's and I am home! > Thanks! > Gary Christman > Broken '07 R 1200 GS Adventure ---------------------------- Wow Gary, you sure know how to pick a more convenient place to breakdown that Doug! If you'd have followed Matt & me you could have cooled your heels over a late lunch at The Whip. I (we) are all anxious to find out what went wrong. Glad you're home & safe. Ken Bruce From kgbruce at verizon.net Mon Mar 8 00:25:08 2010 From: kgbruce at verizon.net (Ken Bruce) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:25:08 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] ON article References: <8CC8C266CDE6533-2F20-182A6@webmail-m023.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: >A friend sent this to me today: "You've probably heard by now but there > is a 1 page spread on page 75 of the March BMW-ON which highlights your > new FOTM award." > > Since I don't get the ON, does anybody have a March issue and a scanner > who could send me a copy of Page 75? I'd like to show my mom, y'know. > > > -- > Tom Cutter > Yardley, PA > http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ------------------------------- Hey Tom, I haven't received the mag yet but when I do I'll scan and send. Mom's rock. Ken Bruce From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 01:10:21 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:10:21 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Made it home from DAYTONA Message-ID: <4a4431121003071710k6720009dnb89970c4fbe5236c@mail.gmail.com> Made it home from Daytona!!! It was better than it's been since the 1980s with fewer people. I-95 Didn't stop untill Saturday. People knew what was going on (not so spread out). Grreat fun. Left my deposit on the Beach front Condo for next year. Tom and Kathy should be getting back to Philly tomorrow. ECO Dano Greensboro NC From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Mar 8 01:39:12 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:39:12 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo (was: T-shirts) Message-ID: <40d64.2bf3430.38c5af40@aol.com> In a message dated 3/7/2010 9:04:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, piechota at argolis.org writes: I have a (very) minor objection to the crescent wrench. My Dad taught me that the crescent wrench is for when you don't have the *RIGHT* tool for the job. ====================================== That's what I was taught too. And not too politely. My mill wright boss wrapped me on the knuckles with my adjustable wrench when he saw me use where I could have used a box end wrench. "Use the right tool for the job" he said. That was back in the 70's. On retrospect, I should have known better by then. I don't have much objection to the wrench on the logo; it is one of the most recognizable of all mechanic's tools. But since it is BMW's we work on, at least make it a metric adjustable wrench. (grin) Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100307/5f8afbec/attachment.html From chrisjac at ptd.net Mon Mar 8 02:15:53 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:15:53 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <677cb.11d2e223.38c46694@aol.com> References: <677cb.11d2e223.38c46694@aol.com> Message-ID: <4B945DD9.6020701@ptd.net> Braveirwin at aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/6/2010 7:51:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > chrisjac at ptd.net writes: > > the "boring" MAC-PAC logo. > > ========================================= > > Hey! What's with that kind of comment? I like that logo. If you think > you can design a better one, I'd be glad to look at it. Roddy. Your're taking my comment out of context. The boring was in quotes and I was wondering if we could spiff it up with a a Honda or Triumph logo (or Mike Evans' Suzuki logo)? It was meant to be a sarcastic comment. Chris Jaccarino From chrisjac at ptd.net Mon Mar 8 02:21:04 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:21:04 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <694286501.12538301267934359727.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <694286501.12538301267934359727.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B945F10.9080605@ptd.net> johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: >> I'd be interested in a shirt. Will it have a Suzuki logo on it anywhere? >> >> >> > > > >> Am in as well with the "boring" MAC-PAC logo. I will order more than >> 1 or 2 if we have Honda and Triumph logos as well. >> > > > With the diversity of bikes owned by members of Mac-Paccers it might be cool to have the Typical MAc PAc logo on the front, and then a big mix of other makes on the back. Off the top of my head I know we have owners of Honda, Kawi, Suzuki, Yamaha, Harley, BSA, Triumph, Matchless, Simplex, Royal Enfield, Vincent, Ducati, MV Augusta, and I am sure there are more that I missed. Maybe have on the back "Supporting Cast", just a thought. > Actually, I prefer non branded (no logo items) if I have to pay for anything. It's a pet peeve of mine that I dont pay for someone else's advertising. I got no problem buying MAC PAC stuff but "major brand names" I dont buy. Hey, if Honda, Yamaski, Motozuki, etc. wants to give me a shirt, fine, but I refuse to buy anything with their logo on it if that decision is at all practical. Chris Jaccarino From chrisjac at ptd.net Mon Mar 8 02:23:22 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:23:22 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cool BMW Motorrad Concept 6 In-Reply-To: <18867155.1267963463119.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <18867155.1267963463119.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4B945F9A.3000504@ptd.net> Darkside wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: Chris >> Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Cool BMW Motorrad Concept 6 >> >> >> The Goldwing is a flat boxer style six. The Concept 6 is an line 6 more >> like a Honda CBX or a Kawaski Voyager. But once again, the Germans >> following plans laid out by the Japanese. :) >> >> > > i thought the benelli came before the honda... nyet? > Shoot, I forgot about the Benelli....1974. The CBX was 1978 I do believe. But there is nothing wrong with those Italians either.. Chris Jaccarino From denrd at aol.com Mon Mar 8 03:14:05 2010 From: denrd at aol.com (Dennis Doose) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:14:05 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <4B945F10.9080605@ptd.net> References: <694286501.12538301267934359727.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4B945F10.9080605@ptd.net> Message-ID: <000801cabe6d$6925d440$3b717cc0$@com> Regarding the T-shirt logo, I suggest individualizing the logos with all the different brands will be impossible because it will make each a 'one-off' item and will drive the cost to the level of absurdity. I suggest, and do very much like, a logo change to "Live to Ride, Ride to Eat." This makes it generic and will attract all types of riders, MAC-PAC members and others. The only options I would suggest are long sleeve or short sleeve, and maybe a breast pocket that I always find handy. Dennis R. Doose, PhD ============================================================================ ================== -----Original Message----- From: mac-pac-l-bounces+denrd=aol.com at jtan.com [mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+denrd=aol.com at jtan.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:21 PM To: johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) Cc: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Mar 8 03:53:32 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:53:32 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Planning / blown universal Message-ID: <8CC8C8A0E5CFF67-6654-218E7@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> Took a ride to Alain Kaldewaay's home and kennel in Nottingham, PA to begin planning a ride to Goose Bay, Labrador, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia....Alain worked one of his dogs on the guys.....showed us his toys (including a VW powered sidecar rig) and I blew a universal joint about 75 miles from home! http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Goose-Bay-trip-planning/11446739_93Zad#804971572_ihSzp Gary Christman Broken '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From ridebackroads at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 10:50:14 2010 From: ridebackroads at gmail.com (Carl Boler) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 05:50:14 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Planning / blown universal In-Reply-To: <8CC8C8A0E5CFF67-6654-218E7@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC8C8A0E5CFF67-6654-218E7@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <258ebbc51003080250l226ad1a5y8d52fffe45b6dacc@mail.gmail.com> Good thing your bike failed now versus en route to Labrador. By the way, the road from Labrador City to Goose Bay is being paved. They started on both ends and expect to meet in the middle. When I was there last August construction had already begun. It'll be a couple of years before it's complete. But if you want some adventure there's a side ride between Lab City and Churchill falls that goes north to a hunting village named Esker. You might not find it on the map. Make sure you have plenty of gas. Wish I could join you on this trip but I have a last minute assignment that will take me OCONUS until August. Enjoy. Carl, Watertown, NY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100308/fb46c888/attachment.html From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Mar 8 11:50:09 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:50:09 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Planning / blown universal In-Reply-To: <8CC8C8A0E5CFF67-6654-218E7@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B949E21.15754.162DFAEC@localhost> > Took a ride > to Alain Kaldewaay's home and kennel in Nottingham, PA to begin > planning a ride to Goose Bay, Labrador, Newfoundland, Nova > Scotia....Alain worked one of his dogs on the guys.....showed us his > toys (including a VW powered sidecar rig) and I blew a universal joint > about 75 miles from home! > > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Goose-Bay-trip-planning/11446739_93Zad#804971572_ihSzp > Gary, Sorry to hear your bike is sick. Glad to hear the bike is at the doctors. What can you tell me about the dogs. What kind are they? What are they trained for? Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Mon Mar 8 12:24:09 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:24:09 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Labrador Trip Initiation Message-ID: <9D8C9BC809F440079AD66BCE1066C908@home.robinson.org> We also set the bar for the initiation to go on this ride. Alan dresses you up in one of his outfits and lets you enjoy lunch.....(I mean be lunch).....for mans best friend. Below you'll see Ken and I enjoying....I mean being lunch for one of the more friendly ones. http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Goose-Bay-trip-planning/11446739_93Zad#804982050_kCvsQ http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Goose-Bay-trip-planning/11446739_93Zad#804983475_jErJq Oh and Jack R. even you could do this. See link below as an example. :-) http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Goose-Bay-trip-planning/11446739_93Zad#804973824_6xGx4 Jim Robinson West Chester PA From mrmevans at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 12:45:33 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:45:33 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Planning / blown universal In-Reply-To: <4B949E21.15754.162DFAEC@localhost> References: <8CC8C8A0E5CFF67-6654-218E7@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> <4B949E21.15754.162DFAEC@localhost> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003080445k7003f9f5u8e57359c889ddcb1@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Joe Dille wrote: > > Sorry to hear your bike is sick. ?Glad to hear the bike is at the > doctors. ?What can you tell me about the dogs. ?What kind are they? > What are they trained for? > Speaking of the dogs, what is Jim doing behind the big shepard in photo #8? http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Goose-Bay-trip-planning/11446739_93Zad#804973372_cZgXC Sampling other species Jim? -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com Mon Mar 8 13:05:03 2010 From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P Reminderbot) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:05:03 +0000 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Annual Gassing Day gathering , April 3 Saturday Message-ID: <56405.448445247-sendEmail@aria> April 3, 2010 - Gassing Day Gathering, Quentin, PA The Pennsylvania Airheads and the Mac-Pac will start the season with a Gassing Day lunch gathering in Quentin, PA. Peter Egan once wrote of Gassing Day: "One by one, I started up four motorcycles and took them to the gas station to put new fuel in their tanks. I got all the bikes gassed up, but when the job was done I felt somehow incomplete. It seemed a day as significant as the firing up and fueling of motorcycles in the spring should be accompanied by some sort of gala festival or solemn ceremony to commemorate the moment." We'll commemorate the moment at 1:00pm EDST at the Quentin Haus Restaurant, (717) 272-6475, at the intersection of PA Rte 72 and Rte 419. This location is east of Harrisburg and south of Lebanon, PA. This is also just north of PA Turnpike Exit 266. Let me know if you're coming so I can reserve tables. We can enjoy lunch then sun ourselves in the parking lot until it's time to roll. If the weather is still wintery, bring the car. People are more important than motorcycles. From piechota at argolis.org Mon Mar 8 13:05:23 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 08:05:23 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Planning / blown universal In-Reply-To: <258ebbc51003080250l226ad1a5y8d52fffe45b6dacc@mail.gmail.com> References: <8CC8C8A0E5CFF67-6654-218E7@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> <258ebbc51003080250l226ad1a5y8d52fffe45b6dacc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B94F613.3090104@argolis.org> Carl Boler wrote: > Good thing your bike failed now versus en route to Labrador. > > By the way, the road from Labrador City to Goose Bay is being paved. They > started on both ends and expect to meet in the middle. When I was there > last August construction had already begun. It'll be a couple of years > before it's complete. But if you want some adventure there's a side ride > between Lab City and Churchill falls that goes north to a hunting village > named Esker. You might not find it on the map. Make sure you have plenty > of gas. I'm voting for pavement. :) Anyone have a lead on some local representative gravel roads I can try to see if I want to do a couple hundred miles on the stuff? From piechota at argolis.org Mon Mar 8 13:30:09 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 08:30:09 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Labrador Trip Initiation In-Reply-To: <9D8C9BC809F440079AD66BCE1066C908@home.robinson.org> References: <9D8C9BC809F440079AD66BCE1066C908@home.robinson.org> Message-ID: <4B94FBE1.7080709@argolis.org> Jim Robinson wrote: > We also set the bar for the initiation to go on this ride. Alan dresses you > up in one of his outfits and lets you enjoy lunch.....(I mean be > lunch).....for mans best friend. Below you'll see Ken and I enjoying....I > mean being lunch for one of the more friendly ones. I'm doing my due diligence on tires for my bike. I've found two companies that make 'sportbike' sized dual-sport tires (and are listed on swmoto tires). Avon's Distanzia AM43/44 and Pirelli MT60 are both available in 120/17R17 (front) and 160/60R17 (rear), which almost fit my bike. My 'real' rear size is 170/60R17 (5" rim), but Avon claims that the tire will fit on a 5x17" rim. Pirelli doesn't seem to have that data on their website, but I would think the same thing applies. So, anyone see any issues with running the slightly narrower rear? The profile will probably flatten out a bit, but I won't be scraping pegs on this trip in all likelihood so I can deal with the sluggish turn-in (I think that's how it works). Anyone have strong feelings on one over the other? From jweiss11 at comcast.net Mon Mar 8 14:46:22 2010 From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:46:22 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Planning / blown universal In-Reply-To: <4B94F613.3090104@argolis.org> References: <8CC8C8A0E5CFF67-6654-218E7@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com><258ebbc51003080250l226ad1a5y8d52fffe45b6dacc@mail.gmail.com> <4B94F613.3090104@argolis.org> Message-ID: On Behalf Of Matt Piechota I'm voting for pavement. :) Anyone have a lead on some local representative gravel roads I can try to see if I want to do a couple hundred miles on the stuff? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Matt, I too would like to practice on some gravel. I've done it a few times for very short runs, but the thought of a few hundred miles takes the pucker factor to new heights. Let me know and I will join you. When is the Goose Bay trip? Thinking............... Jack Weiss From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Mon Mar 8 16:01:04 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Annual Gassing Day gathering , April 3 Saturday In-Reply-To: <56405.448445247-sendEmail@aria> Message-ID: <2009320651.12950001268064064921.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >We'll commemorate the moment at 1:00pm EDST at the Quentin Haus Restaurant, (717) 272-6475, at the intersection of PA Rte 72 and Rte 419. >This location is east of Harrisburg and south of Lebanon, PA. This is also just north of PA Turnpike Exit 266. Let me know if you're coming so I can >reserve tables. We can enjoy lunch then sun ourselves in the parking lot until it's time to roll. If the weather is still wintery, bring the car. People are >more important than motorcycles. I am not far from Quentin (about 1/2 hour) and know some nice back roads to get there. If anyone would be interested in having a pre gathering at my house drop me a note. Nothing formal, just hanging out and swapping lies. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100308/e097f18b/attachment.html From jack.riepe at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 18:19:10 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:19:10 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dancing with the painted whore on the sand... Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: The winter is killing me. I went back through my stuff and found several beach-related riding stories that have never seen the light of day. In honor of the first ride that I am going to take to the sand in only 12 days, I wrote a long piece about motorcycles, the beach, and dancing with the painted whore. It is long.The details can be found at: http://jackriepe.blogspot.com/ -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From doehler at verizon.net Mon Mar 8 19:13:16 2010 From: doehler at verizon.net (Dave Oehler) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:13:16 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Planning / blown universal References: <8CC8C8A0E5CFF67-6654-218E7@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> <258ebbc51003080250l226ad1a5y8d52fffe45b6dacc@mail.gmail.com> <4B94F613.3090104@argolis.org> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Piechota" To: "Carl Boler" Cc: Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Planning / blown universal > > I'm voting for pavement. :) Anyone have a lead on some local > representative gravel roads I can try to see if I want to do a couple > hundred miles on the stuff? > _______________________________________________ > Come on down to the Spring Training Camp in at the Iron Horse in Stecoah NC this April. ( http://www.ironhorsenc.com/ ) There are tons of gravel roads all the way down through WV and still more in the mountains around the TN/NC boarder. I understand the Cherohla Skyway has gravel road that runs "sort of" along side it. I think the GS riders were calling it the "Gravelhala" and what a great ride was.. I prefer the pavement with my LT... From wayne at 2zars.com Mon Mar 8 20:13:24 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:13:24 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Obama's visit Message-ID: <7fbead931003081213q2f3a6945w36ea6e3909aa66e0@mail.gmail.com> My office overlooks Willow Grove Naval Air Station and I captured a few photos of AF1 arriving and departing today. http://2zars.blogspot.com/2010/03/air-force-one.html -- Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Mar 8 20:18:21 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:18:21 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Obama's visit In-Reply-To: <7fbead931003081213q2f3a6945w36ea6e3909aa66e0@mail.gmail.com> References: <7fbead931003081213q2f3a6945w36ea6e3909aa66e0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC8D13A2247B83-1F38-E18@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> awesome shot of the takeoff! Gary Christman -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Woodruff To: Mac-Pac Sent: Mon, Mar 8, 2010 3:13 pm Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Obama's visit My office overlooks Willow Grove Naval Air Station and I captured a few photos of AF1 arriving and departing today. http://2zars.blogspot.com/2010/03/air-force-one.html -- Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Mar 8 20:52:13 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:52:13 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cheap Cell Phone Message-ID: <20675.12.181.211.35.1268081533.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Joey's 18th birthday approaches and we are thinking that if he is going off to college he probably will need a cell phone. This phone will be for making phone calls. He does not need any texting or "apps". (We are bad parents.) Right now, the Luddite Dilles get by with a couple of pay as you go phones that cost $15/mo. I am willing to go with a 2-year contract if the monthly cost is OK. I would also be fine going with a pay as you go plan. Any suggestions or experience for getting a phone plan for talking? Ride Safe, Joe From willweir at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 20:56:22 2010 From: willweir at gmail.com (Will Weir) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:56:22 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cheap Cell Phone In-Reply-To: <20675.12.181.211.35.1268081533.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <20675.12.181.211.35.1268081533.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Joe Dille wrote: > Joey's 18th birthday approaches and we are thinking that if he is going > off to college he probably will need a cell phone. ?This phone will be for > making phone calls. ?He does not need any texting or "apps". (We are bad > parents.) I use Trac-fone and it ends up costing me around $10 a month over time. Probably similar to what you are already doing and my phone does do text messages. It costs a third of a "minute" or "unit" to send or read a text message. It only charges you the time if you open and read the message you've received. Will From ephoet at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 21:00:27 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:00:27 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Obama's visit In-Reply-To: <8CC8D13A2247B83-1F38-E18@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> References: <7fbead931003081213q2f3a6945w36ea6e3909aa66e0@mail.gmail.com> <8CC8D13A2247B83-1F38-E18@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Woodruff > > My office overlooks Willow Grove Naval Air Station and I captured a > few photos of AF1 arriving and departing today. ----------------------------------- On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Gary Christman wrote: > awesome shot of the takeoff! > Gary Christman As long as he's shooting with the Canon! and not a canon! EPH From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 21:08:12 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:08:12 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cheap Cell Phone In-Reply-To: References: <20675.12.181.211.35.1268081533.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: On 3/8/10, Will Weir wrote: > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Joe Dille wrote: > > Joey's 18th birthday approaches and we are thinking that if he is going > > off to college he probably will need a cell phone. This phone will be for > > making phone calls. He does not need any texting or "apps". (We are bad > > parents.) > > > I use Trac-fone and it ends up costing me around $10 a month over > time. Probably similar to what you are already doing and my phone > does do text messages. It costs a third of a "minute" or "unit" to > send or read a text message. It only charges you the time if you open > and read the message you've received. And if you have a land line handy you can check the voicemail over that for no charge. BTLT. They have a US$10/mo service that with a "double minutes" feature gives you a bet less than two hours of talk/month for the US$10. And you can get more minutes at that rate if you need to. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 21:10:39 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:10:39 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Computing: Watch out for the Energizer Bunny charger too! Message-ID: Tom got stung with "something" from a "free" USB memory device. (Ever get any word back from Newegg Tom?) Turns out the Engerizer Bunny battery charger software had a Trojan in it. Details here: http://www.infoworld.com/d/security-central/energizer-bunnys-software-infects-pcs-929?source=IFWNLE_nlt_wrapup_2010-03-08 (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From willweir at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 21:16:53 2010 From: willweir at gmail.com (Will Weir) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:16:53 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cheap Cell Phone In-Reply-To: References: <20675.12.181.211.35.1268081533.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > On 3/8/10, Will Weir wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Joe Dille wrote: >> ?> Joey's 18th birthday approaches and we are thinking that if he is going >> ?> off to college he probably will need a cell phone. ?This phone will be for >> ?> making phone calls. ?He does not need any texting or "apps". (We are bad >> ?> parents.) >> >> >> I use Trac-fone and it ends up costing me around $10 a month over >> ?time. ?Probably similar to what you are already doing and my phone >> ?does do text messages. ?It costs a third of a "minute" or "unit" to >> ?send or read a text message. ?It only charges you the time if you open >> ?and read the message you've received. > > And if you have a land line handy you can check the voicemail over > that for no charge. ?BTLT. > > They have a US$10/mo service that with a "double minutes" feature > gives you a bet less than two hours of talk/month for the US$10. ?And > you can get more minutes at that rate if you need to. > > -- I have a double minutes card that's good for the life of the phone. I'm not on the $10 plan, but over a year's time I believe that's about what it is costing me after initial investment. I stopped keeping track. From jack.riepe at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 22:21:55 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:21:55 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Computing: Watch out for the Energizer Bunny charger too! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Sir: I am so sick of reading about this sabotaged computer shit that I could scream. The US Federal Government, which now stands for absolutely nothing, should impose trade sanctions for any nation that allows this sort of thing... Or better, all of these things should be made in the US, with the death penalty for anyone planting a virus. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 22:23:51 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:23:51 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Obama's visit In-Reply-To: References: <7fbead931003081213q2f3a6945w36ea6e3909aa66e0@mail.gmail.com> <8CC8D13A2247B83-1F38-E18@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Dear Erik: I expect you and Wayne to be arrested momentarilly. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From motoedde2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 22:29:21 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:29:21 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Obama's visit In-Reply-To: References: <7fbead931003081213q2f3a6945w36ea6e3909aa66e0@mail.gmail.com> <8CC8D13A2247B83-1F38-E18@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Erik: > > I expect you and Wayne to be arrested momentarilly. > He's on his way...Weezy that is... http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/lil_wayne_gets_one_year_in_jail_cBlr9DphcrnGgSoKdKeSjN -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 22:30:30 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:30:30 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Obama's visit In-Reply-To: References: <7fbead931003081213q2f3a6945w36ea6e3909aa66e0@mail.gmail.com> <8CC8D13A2247B83-1F38-E18@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 3/8/10, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Erik: > > I expect you and Wayne to be arrested momentarilly. Anyone know if it was live or synched??? http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_caught_lip_syncing_speech (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From mjcantwe at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 23:45:54 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:45:54 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Obama's visit In-Reply-To: References: <7fbead931003081213q2f3a6945w36ea6e3909aa66e0@mail.gmail.com> <8CC8D13A2247B83-1F38-E18@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8bafeb801003081545r15f054d7lad2ca426805528f9@mail.gmail.com> Brian, It's ONN. > Anyone know if it was live or synched??? > http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_caught_lip_syncing_speech > (WS) From mjcantwe at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 23:54:52 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:54:52 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: OH GOD...IT'S HAPPENED! Message-ID: <8bafeb801003081554h5c939bfcrf0d558bdb9016ef6@mail.gmail.com> What's worse, Obama lip syncing or Palin opening up the sixth seal of the Book of the Apocalypse http://www.theonion.com/content/news/latest_sarah_palin_speech_opens (ws) From rsorens at comcast.net Tue Mar 9 00:10:23 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:10:23 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo (was: T-shirts) In-Reply-To: <40d64.2bf3430.38c5af40@aol.com> Message-ID: <0267F2B1E4954204BCF49BEDCB291AF6@Tekki> >I don't have much objection to the wrench on the logo; it is one of the most recognizable of all mechanic's tools. But since it is BMW's we work on, at least make it a metric adjustable wrench. (grin) GEEZ GUYS! Gimme a friggin' break here! My brother-in-law did the design GRATUS and it was the only wrench he could find in hs racks and racks of graphic he could find....and it what he does for a living....does it REALLY matter that much? Do we need to have elections and meetings or something? We're a JOKE, guys! Don't take yourselves so seriously ;-{) Rick From rsorens at comcast.net Tue Mar 9 00:10:23 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:10:23 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo (was: T-shirts) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <937B65392E2B454294B4258B8BB0D9C3@Tekki> Echoing Gerry's comment, but also an advisory: We have professional art-work that IS our property. It is 1st run and we paid the set-up fee for it, so it is technically OUR property. I have a hi-res jpeg file and will send it to you if you want it. We have had hats, shirts (color and mono-chrome), mugs and THE THONG made from it.... Lemme know if you want a copy of the hi-res jpeg Rick From jack.riepe at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 00:50:04 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:50:04 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo (was: T-shirts) In-Reply-To: <0267F2B1E4954204BCF49BEDCB291AF6@Tekki> References: <40d64.2bf3430.38c5af40@aol.com> <0267F2B1E4954204BCF49BEDCB291AF6@Tekki> Message-ID: Dear Mr. Sorensen: I love that logo. I'd like to get some embroidery done. Please send me the jpeg if you don't mind. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 00:54:09 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:54:09 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 7 engine H-D seen at Daytona Message-ID: <4a4431121003081654s586c463ar57947d3c3ca7f8ca@mail.gmail.com> You guys ain't gonna believe this. "www.docshd.com" Scroll down to timeline motorcycle video. They actually rode this rig from Wisconsin to Sturgis. At the end of the video they run with all 7 engines down the drag strip. Dano From wayne at 2zars.com Tue Mar 9 01:12:32 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:12:32 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Obama's visit In-Reply-To: References: <7fbead931003081213q2f3a6945w36ea6e3909aa66e0@mail.gmail.com> <8CC8D13A2247B83-1F38-E18@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: >Dear Erik: > >I expect you and Wayne to be arrested momentarilly. Will you bail us out? There's a strange man in a suit knocking at my door. Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From kgbruce at verizon.net Tue Mar 9 01:16:34 2010 From: kgbruce at verizon.net (Ken Bruce) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:16:34 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo (was: T-shirts) References: <0267F2B1E4954204BCF49BEDCB291AF6@Tekki> Message-ID: <759F6D4F267649E8B9FD0F84A9C08387@lenovo4903350b> >Rick 'rights'... >GEEZ Do we need to have elections and meetings or something? > We're a JOKE, guys! Don't take yourselves so seriously ;-{) > > Rick ---------------------------------- Motion has been made and seconded, all in favor of JOKE say "aye" Aye, Ken Bruce From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 01:19:17 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:19:17 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Obama's visit In-Reply-To: References: <7fbead931003081213q2f3a6945w36ea6e3909aa66e0@mail.gmail.com> <8CC8D13A2247B83-1F38-E18@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 3/8/10, Wayne Woodruff wrote: > >Dear Erik: > > > >I expect you and Wayne to be arrested momentarilly. > > > Will you bail us out? There's a strange man in a suit knocking at my > door. We will help you bury him. Good friends will do that... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 01:20:56 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:20:56 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 7 engine H-D seen at Daytona In-Reply-To: <4a4431121003081654s586c463ar57947d3c3ca7f8ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121003081654s586c463ar57947d3c3ca7f8ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/8/10, Dan Whitfield wrote: > You guys ain't gonna believe this. > > "www.docshd.com" > > Scroll down to timeline motorcycle video. They actually rode this rig > from Wisconsin to Sturgis. At the end of the video they run with all > 7 engines down the drag strip. Looking at the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxzDSvZ1CyA I have a feeling that the wheel bearings even with two wheels at each end are likely above their design rating. Still it is "cool". -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From rsorens at comcast.net Tue Mar 9 01:36:26 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:36:26 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: >... " This record is beatable".... We're in on this ride, too! Rick n Linda Sorensen From Braveirwin at aol.com Tue Mar 9 03:03:29 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:03:29 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Annual Gassing Day gathering , April 3 Saturday Message-ID: <46ebe.be20ee1.38c71481@aol.com> In a message dated 3/8/2010 11:01:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net writes: I am not far from Quentin (about 1/2 hour) and know some nice back roads to get there. If anyone would be interested in having a pre gathering at my house drop me a note. Nothing formal, just hanging out and swapping lies. ========================================== John, nice offer. If it is a nice day and I can free myself of so many obligations, I'll certainly stop by. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100308/9c4f7f69/attachment.html From rsorens at comcast.net Tue Mar 9 03:21:44 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:21:44 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo (was: T-shirts) In-Reply-To: <937B65392E2B454294B4258B8BB0D9C3@Tekki> Message-ID: <3D238A77A4584BA789E94455E287336A@Tekki> >We have professional art-work that IS our property. By "WE", I mean the group....the Mac-Pac owns the artwork.. From bergman at panix.com Tue Mar 9 03:29:35 2010 From: bergman at panix.com (bergman at panix.com) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:29:35 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo (was: T-shirts) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:21:44 EST." <3D238A77A4584BA789E94455E287336A@Tekki> References: <3D238A77A4584BA789E94455E287336A@Tekki> Message-ID: <32024.1268105375@localhost> In the message dated: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:21:44 EST, The pithy ruminations from "Rick Sorensen" on were: => >We have professional art-work that IS our property. => => By "WE", I mean the group....the Mac-Pac owns the artwork.. Hmmmm...so, you're saying that a group that explicitely has no bylaws, no elected officials, and no legal standing somehow "owns" some intellectual property? Does the contract executed between the empowered representatives of Mac-Pac and the artist give the property rights to Mac-Pac? Not that I'm seriously worried...after all, the Copyright Police can't take away my BMW. :) Mark "being a pedant...again" Bergman From tpcutter at aol.com Tue Mar 9 04:52:33 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:52:33 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Computing: Watch out for the Energizer Bunny charger too! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC8D5B774BE098-6A44-75DE@webmail-m041.sysops.aol.com> <> No, turns out that the flash drive was NOT infected. The malware was obtained online from somewhere. I don't think edde was able to pin down the exact source. When I marry Abby from NCIS I'll have her figure it out for me (obscure TV reference) I THOUGHT the trojan came from the memory stick and said "Don't buy from NewEgg!" I gotta take that back. In fact I bought some extra RAM from NewEgg a few days later. Now my problem with NewEgg is that it is like a candy store for techno stuff. I'd go broke picking little tchochkes up there. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From tpcutter at aol.com Tue Mar 9 05:19:24 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:19:24 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo (was: T-shirts) In-Reply-To: <32024.1268105375@localhost> References: <3D238A77A4584BA789E94455E287336A@Tekki> <32024.1268105375@localhost> Message-ID: <8CC8D5F37925258-6A44-78FB@webmail-m041.sysops.aol.com> Mark Bergman posited: <<=> By "WE", I mean the group....the Mac-Pac owns the artwork..Hmmmm...so, you're saying that a group that explicitely has no bylaws, no elected officials, and no legal standing somehow "owns" some intellectual property? Does the contract executed between the empowered representatives of Mac-Pac and the artist give the property rights to Mac-Pac? >> Well, there's legal precedent for the concept. In a similar, but slightly different case, every member of Narcotics Anonymous equally owns the rights to all fellowship-approved and produced literature, artwork,etc. The issue was decided in a Philadelphia court around 1982, argued by Doylestown (Bucks County) PA attorney Gregory Emmons. The resultant document is the "Fellowship Intellectual Property Trust" and the precedent has been applied to such diverse things as a logo for a quilting club and a t-shirt design developed by a group-participation mural. So, yes, un-organized groups with no leaders or officers can own property. To think that a portion of my brain is busy with that worthless piece of trivia when It could be sleeping... --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From Ducdude at verizon.net Tue Mar 9 11:08:45 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:08:45 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo (was: T-shirts) References: <0267F2B1E4954204BCF49BEDCB291AF6@Tekki> <759F6D4F267649E8B9FD0F84A9C08387@lenovo4903350b> Message-ID: <98A5542F700C4DBCA0AC53D211CEBBCF@heilveil5e3fdd> >>GEEZ Do we need to have elections and meetings or something? >> We're a JOKE, guys! Don't take yourselves so seriously ;-{) >> >> Rick > ---------------------------------- > > Motion has been made and seconded, all in favor of JOKE say "aye" > > Aye, > Ken Bruce ---------- Aye! Duc From motoedde2 at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 12:45:11 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 07:45:11 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda NT700 Review Message-ID: Don't forget this is sport rider magazine reviewing...but check out the pics...Montgomeryville cycle has one in stock... http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_1004_2010_honda_nt700v/index.html -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From gary5410 at aol.com Tue Mar 9 13:04:45 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:04:45 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo (was: T-shirts) In-Reply-To: <98A5542F700C4DBCA0AC53D211CEBBCF@heilveil5e3fdd> References: <0267F2B1E4954204BCF49BEDCB291AF6@Tekki><759F6D4F267649E8B9FD0F84A9C08387@lenovo4903350b> <98A5542F700C4DBCA0AC53D211CEBBCF@heilveil5e3fdd> Message-ID: <8CC8DA039ACE32E-1F38-CDCA@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> Are you serious? Gary Christman :-) >> We're a JOKE, guys! Don't take yourselves so seriously ;-{) >> >> Rick > ---------------------------------- From tallone.eric at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 13:08:44 2010 From: tallone.eric at gmail.com (eric eckstein) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:08:44 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <74b67ad1003090508s50774b96sfee84b8f2388bc61@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > Fellow Riders, ?Challenge #2 Todd, This is a great idea, thank you very much for getting it started! My wife and I will absolutely be there. E. Eric Eckstein Merion Station, PA 2003 K1200GT > > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From piechota at argolis.org Tue Mar 9 13:17:42 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:17:42 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Computing: Watch out for the Energizer Bunny charger too! In-Reply-To: <8CC8D5B774BE098-6A44-75DE@webmail-m041.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC8D5B774BE098-6A44-75DE@webmail-m041.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B964A76.4040708@argolis.org> Tom Cutter wrote: > When I marry Abby from NCIS I'll have her figure it > out for me (obscure TV reference) Me first! > Now my problem with NewEgg is that it is like a candy store for techno > stuff. I'd go broke picking little tchochkes up there. Word. I needed to buy a couple network cables, and ended up spending over $100. From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 13:26:56 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:26:56 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: <74b67ad1003090508s50774b96sfee84b8f2388bc61@mail.gmail.com> References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> <74b67ad1003090508s50774b96sfee84b8f2388bc61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a4431121003090526r70c76c05waa693b193845bd1d@mail.gmail.com> > Todd, > > This is a great idea, thank you very much for getting it started! I won't be there, since my ECOMOBILE could be considered a non BMW since the custom made part was done by PERAVES, it could corrupt the validity of the record. Dano From piechota at argolis.org Tue Mar 9 13:42:00 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:42:00 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda NT700 Review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B965028.4060506@argolis.org> edde m wrote: > Don't forget this is sport rider magazine reviewing...but check out > the pics...Montgomeryville cycle has one in stock... > > http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_1004_2010_honda_nt700v/index.html It'll be interesting to see the comparisons with the F800ST. I'd guess the F800 is far more sporty for a little more money ($9999 vs. $10900), it that's what you're in to. :) From piechota at argolis.org Tue Mar 9 13:47:44 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:47:44 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 7 engine H-D seen at Daytona In-Reply-To: References: <4a4431121003081654s586c463ar57947d3c3ca7f8ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B965180.2040305@argolis.org> Brian Curry wrote: > On 3/8/10, Dan Whitfield wrote: >> You guys ain't gonna believe this. >> >> "www.docshd.com" >> >> Scroll down to timeline motorcycle video. They actually rode this rig >> from Wisconsin to Sturgis. At the end of the video they run with all >> 7 engines down the drag strip. > > Looking at the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxzDSvZ1CyA I have > a feeling that the wheel bearings even with two wheels at each end are > likely above their design rating. > > Still it is "cool". > 7 engines, seats 10 people, 24 1/2 feet long, two training wheels. From wateredg at interlog.com Tue Mar 9 14:21:29 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:21:29 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda NT700 Review References: <4B965028.4060506@argolis.org> Message-ID: <7DD2A3CBC28A48E197CDD4CF8F60A8F9@9200c> Hello all, From: "Matt Piechota" > edde m wrote: >> Don't forget this is sport rider magazine reviewing...but check out >> the pics...Montgomeryville cycle has one in stock... >> >> http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_1004_2010_honda_nt700v/index.html > > It'll be interesting to see the comparisons with the F800ST. I'd guess > the F800 is far more sporty for a little more money ($9999 vs. $10900), > it that's what you're in to. :) The $9999 price-tag includes ABS. Does it also include the factory hard bags? What's the F800's price with ABS and factory bags? I also wonder how maintenance and repair costs compare between the two, as BMWs are not known to be economical in these respects. FYI, I am not making assertions, just asking questions. It appears to me, at least superficially, that the NT700 might be a better value than the F800ST. Mind you, BMW has never positioned themselves as a "value" company in North America. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From jasiii at earthlink.net Tue Mar 9 14:24:33 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:24:33 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo (was: T-shirts) Message-ID: <18703574.1268144673346.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > >Motion has been made and seconded, all in favor of JOKE say "aye" > >Aye, >Ken Bruce > Aye Jim Sterling (yea to Roberts Rules ) James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From jasiii at earthlink.net Tue Mar 9 14:27:10 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:27:10 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Computing: Watch out for the Energizer Bunny charger too! Message-ID: <10386266.1268144831059.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> When I marry Abby from NCIS I'll have her figure it out for me (obscure TV reference) Now my problem with NewEgg is that it is like a candy store for techno stuff. I'd go broke picking little tchochkes up there. > >Tom Cutter Oh God, he has gone geek.. Next he will be nice (grin) Jim (time to get rid of all my computers) James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From chrisjac at ptd.net Tue Mar 9 14:40:38 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:40:38 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Court Rroom Testimony Message-ID: <4B965DE6.5020605@ptd.net> Actual Court Transcripts These are from a book called Disorder in the American Courts, and are things people actually said in court, word for word, taken down and now published by court reporters who had the torment of staying calm while these exchanges were actually taking place. ATTORNEY: Are you sexually active? WITNESS: No, I just lie there. ____________________________________________ ATTORNEY: This myasthenia gravis, does it affect your memory at all? WITNESS: Yes.. ATTORNEY: And in what ways does it affect your memory? WITNESS: I forget. ATTORNEY: You forget? Can you give us an example of something you forgot? ___________________________________________ ATTORNEY: Do you know if your daughter has ever been involved in voodoo? WITNESS: We both do. ATTORNEY: Voodoo? WITNESS: We do. ATTORNEY: You do? WITNESS: Yes, voodoo. ____________________________________________ ATTORNEY: Now doctor, isn't it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he doesn't know about it until the next morning? WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam? ____________________________________ ATTORNEY: The youngest son, the twenty-year-old, how old is he? WITNESS: He's twenty, much like your IQ. ___________________________________________ ATTORNEY: Were you present when your picture was taken? WITNESS: Are you shitting me? _________________________________________ ATTORNEY: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th? WITNESS: Yes. ATTORNEY: And what were you doing at that time? WITNESS: getting laid ____________________________________________ ATTORNEY: She had three children, right? WITNESS: Yes. ATTORNEY: How many were boys? WITNESS: None. ATTORNEY: Were there any girls? WITNESS: Your Honor, I think I need a different attorney. Can I get a new attorney? ____________________________________________ ATTORNEY: How was your first marriage terminated? WITNESS: By death. ATTORNEY: And by whose death was it terminated? WITNESS: Take a guess. ____________________________________________ ATTORNEY: Can you describe the individual? WITNESS: He was about medium height and had a beard. ATTORNEY: Was this a male or a female? WITNESS: Unless the Circus was in town I'm going with male. _____________________________________ ATTORNEY: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice which I sent to your attorney? WITNESS: No, this is how I dress when I go to work. ______________________________________ ATTORNEY: Doctor, how many of your autopsies have you performed on dead people? WITNESS: All of them... The live ones put up too much of a fight. _________________________________________ ATTORNEY: ALL your responses MUST be oral, OK? What school did you go to? WITNESS: Oral. _________________________________________ ATTORNEY: Do you recall the time that you examined the body? WITNESS: The autopsy started around 8:30 p.m. ATTORNEY: And Mr. Denton was dead at the time? WITNESS: If not, he was by the time I finished.. ____________________________________________ ATTORNEY: Are you qualified to give a urine sample? WITNESS: Are you qualified to ask that question? ______________________________________ And the best for last: ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse? WITNESS: No. ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure? WITNESS: No. ATTORNEY: Did you check for breathing? WITNESS: No. ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy? WITNESS: No. ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor? WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar ATTORNEY: I see, but could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless? WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law. From motorrader at verizon.net Tue Mar 9 15:04:14 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:04:14 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: Message-ID: <3CDA1C47C28D45ADA4D48EC5B10F1D81@dellfe483b726d> >... " This record is beatable".... > We're in on this ride, too > Rick n Linda Sorensen Rick n Linda, Terrific ! Glad you both can make it. Please help us spread the word to all BMW riders and groups in and out of state. I think we should be able to interest riders from Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey and possibly New York. I will be making plenty of phone calls, but it sure would help if we all tried to contact some riding friends in central and western PA as well as our other neighboring states. That one phone call or email may result in many more calls and emails as your friends start to post their riding friends, etc. Thanks for your interest. Todd Trumbore From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Tue Mar 9 15:45:39 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:45:39 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] 7 engine H-D seen at Daytona In-Reply-To: <4B965180.2040305@argolis.org> References: <4a4431121003081654s586c463ar57947d3c3ca7f8ca@mail.gmail.com> <4B965180.2040305@argolis.org> Message-ID: <13974.12.181.211.35.1268149539.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > Brian Curry wrote: Snip... At the end of the video they run with all >>> 7 engines down the drag strip. >> >> Looking at the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxzDSvZ1CyA I have >> a feeling that the wheel bearings even with two wheels at each end are >> likely above their design rating. >> >> Still it is "cool". >> > > 7 engines, seats 10 people, 24 1/2 feet long, two training wheels. I am trying to comprehend how that thing steers. When the training wheels touch you steer, and when they don't you countersteer. It has to weigh a ton (2000 lbs). Running down the road does not look so bad, but the exit ramps must have been scary. I noticed that when they turned into one lot they all put their right legs down to steady the bike. It looked like a practiced maneuver. Crazy stuff. The videographer should be shot. How one can make that clip w/o slowly walking down the bike and taking a picture of each engine is a crime. Ride Safe, Joe From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 18:04:01 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:04:01 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record In-Reply-To: References: <5F7CFA8329BE4582B2641D2B99B1CE84@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > > > I'm in. ?Please keep me in the loop. > -Bill > > Thanks for your interest Bill. ?These are the latest details: > > Ride For the Record > > Sunday May 2nd, 2010, ?9 am > Montgomeryville Cycle Center > 2901 Bethlehem Pike ( Rt 309) > Hatfield, PA 19440 > > Please take note: ?This is a rain or shine event. .... Todd, I'll be there. We'll advertise the event in our Newsletter of the Delaware Valley BMW Riders for April. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From mrmevans at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 21:04:40 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:04:40 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Movin' and Shakin' Message-ID: <8296f6de1003091304t5afb8c88s5a64f435587a89f6@mail.gmail.com> This is not an "I Hate Harleys" post, but I was behind an HD at a light this afternoon. This guy's had the trio of hard side cases and top case, with two 'whip'-type antennae mounted to each side of the top case. The extraordinary amount of shaking being experienced by that top case at idle was causing the antennae (probably each 4' long) to whip around in an extremely violent manner. By the time the vibration reached the end of those long stalks the frequency of movement witnessed at the tips had them almost making contact with vehicles in the surrounding lanes. I don't know how the rider himself wasn't getting rapped by them...at least he had on a helmet just in case. I can see a research project here for Jack to study the effects of such vibrational input on the pillion rider of an HD versus same on a K75. This could be where Jack breaks into viodeo blogging (vlogging) and might be one case where he likes the HD better? -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From honeybrk at windstream.net Sun Mar 7 17:50:57 2010 From: honeybrk at windstream.net (honeybrk at windstream.net) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 9:50:57 -0800 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> Message-ID: <20100307115057.KG3VB.244201.root@ispmxfep11-z02> > This email is just to get an idea of who'd be interested. If I get > decent response, I'll start figuring out where to get them, how much, > etc., etc. > I would like a T-shirt or two. I would want Mac Pac to show. I had my Mac Pac shirt on in Daytona and found that the Pac is known all around. Marge From honeybrk at windstream.net Sun Mar 7 18:23:01 2010 From: honeybrk at windstream.net (honeybrk at windstream.net) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:23:01 -0600 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <677cb.11d2e223.38c46694@aol.com> Message-ID: <20100307122301.M9ZQC.244674.root@ispmxfep11-z02> ---- Braveirwin at aol.com wrote: > ========================================= > > Hey! What's with that kind of comment? I like that logo. If you think you > can design a better one, I'd be glad to look at it. Roddy. > -------------- next part -------------- Nothing is wrong with the logo. Why can't we leave it alone. It is recognizable to others. We have joined the Pac for what it is not to change it. The Mac Pac is a registered BMW group. Southeastern Pennsylvania Wrenching and Eating Society. Marge From royer.scott at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 23:53:02 2010 From: royer.scott at gmail.com (Scott Royer) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:53:02 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Computing: Watch out for the Energizer Bunny charger too! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10b68dab1003081553g6c6cb6d2q4bca163464a22919@mail.gmail.com> Jack, The govt can't do anything about it, because if they tried, China would call our loans and we would all have to learn Mandarin. Scott On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Sir: > > I am so sick of reading about this sabotaged computer shit that I > could scream. The US Federal Government, which now stands for > absolutely nothing, should impose trade sanctions for any nation that > allows this sort of thing... Or better, all of these things should be > made in the US, with the death penalty for anyone planting a virus. > > > -- > Fondest regards, > Jack > The Lindbergh Baby > West Chester, Pa > > "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still > have to be nice to them, at first." > ? My Mother, Rita Riepe > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From motorrader at verizon.net Sat Mar 6 20:19:33 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:19:33 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ride For The Cure,Ride For The Record, 2 May 2010 9 am Message-ID: <3D454DDD794043498137CD9F5D1C322E@dellfe483b726d> Ride For The Cure, Ride For The Record Sunday 2 May 2010, 9 am held at: Montgomeryville Cycle Center 2901 Bethlehem Pike ( Rt. 309 ) Hatfield, PA 19440 215-712-7433 Fellow Riders, I want to thank all of you for your interest in this Guinness Book Record attempt. This ride of ours just took on a new meaning. In discussions with Bob Jones of Montgomeryville Cycle Center we decided it only made sense to make this ride a Charity Ride at the same time. Bob has been affiliated with St. Jude's Hospital over the years and has sponsored a ride in the fall benefiting The Pediatric Cancer Center. So this is a dual purpose ride. We will not be collecting any money for this ride, Bob will be setting a jar out and any funds collected will be from voluntary donations only. I have been in touch with The North Penn Reporter and they are very excited to cover this event and will be doing a short story a week prior to the ride just to spark some interest. Then cover the event on May 2nd. I will be contacting two other newspapers also. If and when I feel we are close to reaching enough riders to break the record, I will also give a call to FOX news to see if they have an interest in covering the story. Please do not be concerned with the thought of 250 riders trying to stay together for 25 miles on a tour through scenic Bucks County. The course will be BRIGHTLY MARKED throughout. All turns will be marked 150 feet before the intersections and confirmation marks after the turns and along the route. Every rider will also be handed a route sheet just in case there is any doubt or confusion. So you can ride in smaller groups of four or five if you wish. BUT, I do want the whole group of riders to leave together and return together. The last four miles of this route will be on a 4 lane divided, limited access highway. I will be waiting to receive telephone contact from a designated rider/sidecar passenger who will be riding at the rear of the group to let me know that we have all riders. I believe we will be counted as we leave AND when we return to Montgomeryville Cycle Center. Please do your best to attend and spread the word to fellow BMW riding friends/organizations. In the next few days I will be making many phone calls and sending out plenty of email postings. I appreciate all of your help with this too. This record is attainable and I believe we will pull this off . Remember this ride for the record applies to BMW motorbikes ONLY and it will be held rain or shine ! We will have one crack at this so lets do our best. In addition to food, drinks, door prizes and discounts on parts and accessories, I will be handing out awards for longest distant rider and oldest motorbike, youngest rider and oldest rider ! We might even have commemorative T-Shirts made available to mark the occasion. Do we need any more reasons for your participation !! No excuses, mark those calendars........., lets have some fun !!!! Regards, Todd Trumbore Harleysville, PA 610-287-5275 Hm From motorrader at verizon.net Tue Mar 9 20:09:35 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:09:35 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Application on File at GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS LTD Message-ID: <415679C91597495595B9ED40CA0385C4@dellfe483b726d> Guinness World Record Attempt, Sunday May 2nd, 2010 @ Montgomeryville Cycle Center, Hatfield, PA Fellow BMW Riders, It's now official ! Our application to attempt a new Guinness World Record is on file, all fourteen (14) pages. at the GWR Headquarters, Drummond St. London, UK. That was the easiest part. We have completed the first important step, but there is much work to be done. We have to try to reach as many BMW riders within our region and neighboring regions. That means our fellow BMW riders in New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland and even New York. Bob Jones of Montgomeryville Cycle Center has been gracious enough to allow us to use his dealership and he is supplying food, drinks, door prizes and offering a 15% discount on all parts and accessories to help promote this event. This will also be a charity ride to benefit The Pediatric Cancer Center of St. Jude's Hospital. I feel pretty confident that we can reach our goal and I wouldn't mind a cushion of a couple dozen extra riders just in case. So, what do you say, lets rally the troops and do our best to eclipse the existing GWR. Thanks for your support ! More to follow. Todd Trumbore Harleysville, PA PS. Partial agreement below: Agreement Regarding Record Attempt ('Agreement') In relation to the record attempt ('Record Attempt') of Largest parade of BMW motorcycles This Agreement dated: 09/03/2010 18:57:06 GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS LTD (hereafter referred to as 'GWR'/'us'/'we'), Company Number 00541295, of 3rd Floor, 184-192 Drummond Street, London, NW1 3HP UK and 'you' From motorrader at verizon.net Tue Mar 9 20:22:50 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:22:50 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Application on File For GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS LTD Message-ID: <0D965900C6C94E8E9769FAD3A5CA9D6F@dellfe483b726d> Agreement Regarding Record Attempt ('Agreement') In relation to the record attempt ('Record Attempt') of Largest parade of BMW motorcycles This Agreement dated: 09/03/2010 18:57:06 GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS LTD (hereafter referred to as 'GWR'/'us'/'we'), Company Number 00541295, of 3rd Floor, 184-192 Drummond Street, London, NW1 3HP UK and 'you' It's official, mark those calendars for 2 May 2010, 9am @ MCC From bmwdick at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 11:42:03 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 06:42:03 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Allentown Passes Cell Phone Ban While Driving In-Reply-To: <4B907B28.1050701@ptd.net> References: <4B907B28.1050701@ptd.net> Message-ID: Chris: You may be the only person I've known with a nightstick collection packed away in your secret location. No wonder you have back trouble ;) Dick On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Chris wrote: > http://www.wfmz.com/news/22735073/detail.html > > > Hmmm, but like the article says...a judge has said the state motor > vehicle law supercedes the local ban. I guess this is going to be > another opportunity for me to have something inserted up my ass when I > voice my opinion to the Allentown police. > > > Chris Jaccarino > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100305/3b1751c3/attachment.html From bmwdick at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 14:18:48 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:18:48 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Hey, look whats happening in my town.... In-Reply-To: <4B906909.60101@ptd.net> References: <4B906909.60101@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Chris wrote: > Mayor Suspends Police Chief... > http://www.wfmz.com/news/22716826/detail.html > > and more recently..... > > Macungie Meeting on Police Chief Suspension ..... > http://www.wfmz.com/news/22735299/detail.html > > High drama in Macungie. I knew I should have run for Mayor! > > Chris Jaccarino > Chris: It looks as if that position is filled, but I hear there may be a need for a police chief. If you promise to fix tickets for Mac-Pac members, we could do some house-to-house canvassing to get you elected. I have this mental image of Cutter and Riepe soliciting votes for you -- scary! BMW-Dick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Will it have a Suzuki logo on it anywhere? > > -- > Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Sent from my mobile device BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Sun Mar 7 00:07:40 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 19:07:40 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003061506j3bc40f0aw52094e6894cb75e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> <8296f6de1003061506j3bc40f0aw52094e6894cb75e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The suzi logo goes on the front of your jockeys right next to the potato On 3/6/10, Michael Evans wrote: > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Matt Piechota wrote: >> I've been thinking about putting a batch of t-shirts together for awhile >> now. ?I'm thinking something MAC-PAC-y (like the logo) on the front, and >> "Live to Ride, Ride to Eat" on the back (I love that corruption of the >> HD slogan). >> >> This email is just to get an idea of who'd be interested. ?If I get >> decent response, I'll start figuring out where to get them, how much, >> etc., etc. >> >> Someone might also think about doing a shirt for the World Record Ride, >> too. >> _______________________________________________ > > Hey Matt, > > I'd be interested in a shirt. Will it have a Suzuki logo on it anywhere? > > -- > Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Sent from my mobile device BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Sun Mar 7 02:33:48 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:33:48 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003061506j3bc40f0aw52094e6894cb75e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> <8296f6de1003061506j3bc40f0aw52094e6894cb75e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The suzi logo goes on the front of your jockeys right next to the potato On 3/6/10, Michael Evans wrote: > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Matt Piechota wrote: >> I've been thinking about putting a batch of t-shirts together for awhile >> now. ?I'm thinking something MAC-PAC-y (like the logo) on the front, and >> "Live to Ride, Ride to Eat" on the back (I love that corruption of the >> HD slogan). >> >> This email is just to get an idea of who'd be interested. ?If I get >> decent response, I'll start figuring out where to get them, how much, >> etc., etc. >> >> Someone might also think about doing a shirt for the World Record Ride, >> too. >> _______________________________________________ > > Hey Matt, > > I'd be interested in a shirt. Will it have a Suzuki logo on it anywhere? > > -- > Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Sent from my mobile device BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Sun Mar 7 12:05:23 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:05:23 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <8CC8BC51858AD3D-5E50-13491@webmail-m039.sysops.aol.com> References: <694286501.12538301267934359727.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8CC8BC51858AD3D-5E50-13491@webmail-m039.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Gary Christman wrote: > << Maybe have on the back "Supporting Cast", just a thought.>> > > I like that! > > Gary Christman > '07 R 1200 GS Adventure > Me too! -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 12:38:31 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:38:31 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Labrador Trip Initiation In-Reply-To: <9D8C9BC809F440079AD66BCE1066C908@home.robinson.org> References: <9D8C9BC809F440079AD66BCE1066C908@home.robinson.org> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Jim Robinson wrote: > We also set the bar for the initiation to go on this ride. Alan dresses you > up in one of his outfits and lets you enjoy lunch.....(I mean be > lunch).....for mans best friend. Below you'll see Ken and I enjoying....I > mean being lunch for one of the more friendly ones. > > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Goose-Bay-trip-planning/11446739_93Zad#804982050_kCvsQ > > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Goose-Bay-trip-planning/11446739_93Zad#804983475_jErJq > > Oh and Jack R. even you could do this. See link below as an example. :-) > > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Goose-Bay-trip-planning/11446739_93Zad#804973824_6xGx4 > > Jim Robinson > West Chester PA > > Child's play! You haven't lived until you've been chased by a wolf on the Haul Road with only one cylinder firing on a bike with sardine can and coke can repaired throttle bodies like our buddy Doug. Sorry I missed yesterday with the puppies. -- BMW-Dick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100308/d6a67e14/attachment.html From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 22:29:56 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:29:56 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Computing: Watch out for the Energizer Bunny charger too! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Most of it is coming from China and Russia, OB's new best friends. He doesn't want to piss off China, or they could force him to sell GM. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Sir: > > I am so sick of reading about this sabotaged computer shit that I > could scream. The US Federal Government, which now stands for > absolutely nothing, should impose trade sanctions for any nation that > allows this sort of thing... Or better, all of these things should be > made in the US, with the death penalty for anyone planting a virus. > > > -- > Fondest regards, > Jack > The Lindbergh Baby > West Chester, Pa > > "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still > have to be nice to them, at first." > ? My Mother, Rita Riepe > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100308/e8576569/attachment.html From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Mar 10 00:21:39 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:21:39 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record Message-ID: <2a717.79cd3c92.38c84013@aol.com> In a message dated 3/9/2010 8:27:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, whitfield.dan at gmail.com writes: I won't be there, since my ECOMOBILE could be considered a non BMW since the custom made part was done by PERAVES, it could corrupt the validity of the record. ================================================== Gee, couldn't you join us and just not have it counted in the lineup? Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100309/f37eed65/attachment.html From kdgregory at yahoo.com Wed Mar 10 00:50:39 2010 From: kdgregory at yahoo.com (Keith D Gregory) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:50:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cool BMW Motorrad Concept 6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <863792.28298.qm@web56408.mail.re3.yahoo.com> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRfcYY6YiYA&NR=1 Has BMW suddenly turned into a Japanese motorcycle manufacturer? It seems there's a new engine design coming out every year. -kdg From tpcutter at aol.com Wed Mar 10 00:52:25 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:52:25 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: This Weekend Weather Pass it on! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC8E0315A66218-3634-63DD@webmail-m026.sysops.aol.com> RIDE THE TRACK THIS WEEKEND! --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com -----Original Message----- From: AbsoluteTrackDay at aol.com To: AbsoluteTrackDay at aol.com Sent: Tue, Mar 9, 2010 12:27 pm Subject: This Weekend Weather Pass it on! Well the Weather looks like it is taking a turn for good. We have about 14 registrations so far for both days. So lets pass this weather and registration on and see if we can drum up a few more registrations..HELP ? PRE_REGISTRATION CLOSES 12AM tonight 3/9 all other will be Walk ons... ? Cost is $175 for each day, with a $25 rebate for each day registered towards a future event.... ? Here is the weather forecast... http://www.accuweather.com/us/nj/millville/08332/forecast-weekends.asp ? ? ? Upcoming events... Season Opener> 3/13-3/14 Sat,Sun NJMP Thunderbolt Then Round 2 > 4/17 SAT, 4/18 SUN, 4/19 Mon NJMP Thunderbolt Roy Cadoo Track Chairman Absolute Cycle Experience (ACE) Absolute Performance LLC AbsoluteCycle.com 2WheelSpace.com 1-732-388-7840 From jasiii at earthlink.net Wed Mar 10 00:56:19 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:56:19 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hitch for bike Message-ID: And now to get back to a bike topic (grin) I have seen several bikes in this group with a trailer hitchs.. Are there any local dealers/trailer hitch dealers in our area ?? The prices I have seen on the web range from $300 to $600.. Does anyone know the differences ?? I will also be looking for a used trailer.. So if anyone has any leads feel free to share (grin) Any brands that anyone can recommend ?? Thanks in advance .. Jim From jasiii at earthlink.net Wed Mar 10 01:07:21 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:07:21 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> Message-ID: > I've been thinking about putting a batch of t-shirts together for awhile > now. I'm thinking something MAC-PAC-y (like the logo) on the front, and > "Live to Ride, Ride to Eat" on the back (I love that corruption of the > HD slogan). > > This email is just to get an idea of who'd be interested. If I get > decent response, I'll start figuring out where to get them, how much, > etc., etc. > > Someone might also think about doing a shirt for the World Record Ride, too. I would like a 2xx size one And I like the suggested slogan suggest for the back. Jim From piechota at argolis.org Wed Mar 10 01:17:54 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:17:54 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda NT700 Review In-Reply-To: <7DD2A3CBC28A48E197CDD4CF8F60A8F9@9200c> References: <4B965028.4060506@argolis.org> <7DD2A3CBC28A48E197CDD4CF8F60A8F9@9200c> Message-ID: <4B96F342.4070704@argolis.org> Steve Makohin wrote: >> It'll be interesting to see the comparisons with the F800ST. I'd guess >> the F800 is far more sporty for a little more money ($9999 vs. $10900), >> it that's what you're in to. :) > > The $9999 price-tag includes ABS. Does it also include the factory hard > bags? What's the F800's price with ABS and factory bags? I also wonder how > maintenance and repair costs compare between the two, as BMWs are not known > to be economical in these respects. I looked this up before I posted, but didn't put it in. I should have to save a few bytes. :) Honda NT700V $9999 w/ ABS $10999 Heated Grips 189.99 Heated Grip Attachment (??) 109.55 Bags (not listed, so I assume) incl Center Stand incl BMW F800ST Base $10900 'Standard' Package (ABS, Heated grips, computer, center stand) $12525 A la carte: ABS $900 Heated Grips $250 Center Stand $175 I don't see bags in the options, probably because the fit a couple models. Figure another $500 for those. > FYI, I am not making assertions, just asking questions. It appears to me, at > least superficially, that the NT700 might be a better value than the F800ST. > Mind you, BMW has never positioned themselves as a "value" company in North > America. I think the value proposition lies in the performance. The NT is 565-ish lbs and 65 hp @ 8000 rpm and 48.8 lb-ft at 6,500 (numbers from a UK review, may vary). The F800 Weighs 462 lbs and 85 hp at 8,000 rpm, 63 lb-ft at 5800 rpm. The F800 is more expensive (and will likely cost more to service), but it's nearly in a different league weight and power-wise. Happily, that means the buy can choose what's important. From 321design at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 01:40:04 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:40:04 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Application on File at GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS LTD In-Reply-To: <415679C91597495595B9ED40CA0385C4@dellfe483b726d> References: <415679C91597495595B9ED40CA0385C4@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <74d2fbe11003091740s302496ecv72ae7838c75c2f3c@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > Guinness World Record Attempt, ?Sunday May 2nd, 2010 @ Montgomeryville Cycle > Center, Hatfield, PA > > > Fellow ?BMW Riders, > > It's now official ! ?Our application to attempt a new Guinness World Record > is on file, all ?fourteen (14) pages. at the GWR Headquarters, Drummond St. > London, UK. Count me in. -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 01:49:20 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:49:20 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honk for a good cause Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0FpV0dfoAk (WS, check to the end for the MESSAGE.) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From crocov502 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 10 01:52:39 2010 From: crocov502 at yahoo.com (Arla Hile) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:52:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MAC-PAC] unreal 65 R69S Message-ID: <659541.64434.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For sale on fleabay...the accessories alone are worth a tiny fortune... http://tinyurl.com/yjp38vc *sigh* Arla From motoedde2 at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 01:54:56 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:54:56 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda NT700 Review In-Reply-To: <4B96F342.4070704@argolis.org> References: <4B965028.4060506@argolis.org> <7DD2A3CBC28A48E197CDD4CF8F60A8F9@9200c> <4B96F342.4070704@argolis.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Matt Piechota wrote: > I think the value proposition lies in the performance. ?The NT is > 565-ish lbs and 65 hp @ 8000 rpm and 48.8 lb-ft at 6,500 (numbers from a UK > review, may vary). ?The F800 Weighs 462 lbs and 85 hp at 8,000 rpm, 63 > lb-ft at 5800 rpm. ?The F800 is more expensive (and will likely cost > more to service), but it's nearly in a different league weight and > power-wise. ?Happily, that means the buy can choose what's important. I think the value proposition ultimately lies in the beholder of the checkbook. For some that increased performance is not worth the increased headache of having to deal with a BMW dealer. Sorry to say, but Hermy's is the exception to the rule in this day and age. You go to a Honda dealer like Philly Cycle center...and if you come in there with a decent attitude, you'll be good to go. And that in a nutshell is why Herm and Vince are successful...they handle their business. -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Wed Mar 10 02:00:43 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:00:43 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cheap Cell Phone References: <20675.12.181.211.35.1268081533.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <00a401cabff5$7f38c4c0$4001a8c0@FastHP> > Joey's 18th birthday approaches and we are thinking that if he is going > off to college he probably will need a cell phone. This phone will be for > making phone calls. He does not need any texting or "apps". (We are bad > parents.) > > Right now, the Luddite Dilles get by with a couple of pay as you go phones > that cost $15/mo. I am willing to go with a 2-year contract if the > monthly cost is OK. I would also be fine going with a pay as you go plan. > > Any suggestions or experience for getting a phone plan for talking? > > Ride Safe, > > Joe If you choose to go with a 2 year contract I have Sprint/Nextel for $30/month with taxes,etc; it is $37.08. I get 200 anytime minutes and unlimited night and weekend. I never come close to using the 200 minutes. It is a very basic phone but you can take pictures with it. It would cost more to get a phone without a camera! I think this is about the cheapest out there Marge From motoedde2 at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 02:16:23 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:16:23 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda NT700 Review In-Reply-To: <7DD2A3CBC28A48E197CDD4CF8F60A8F9@9200c> References: <4B965028.4060506@argolis.org> <7DD2A3CBC28A48E197CDD4CF8F60A8F9@9200c> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Steve Makohin wrote: > The $9999 price-tag includes ABS. Does it also include the factory hard > bags? What's the F800's price with ABS and factory bags? I also wonder how > maintenance and repair costs compare between the two, as BMWs are not known > to be economical in these respects. > > FYI, I am not making assertions, just asking questions. It appears to me, at > least superficially, that the NT700 might be a better value than the F800ST. > Mind you, BMW has never positioned themselves as a "value" company in North > America. Regarding the bags...since they are integrated into the bike, they are standard on the NT700. One neat little feature about this, is for an additional $150 I believe, you can swap out the standard lids, and put larger lids. It might make more sense and cheaper to stick a top case though. http://ww1.honda.co.uk/mcstatic/en/product/accessoriesPDF/2009Range/NT700VDeauville.pdf Nevertheless, it reminds me of the K75 in many ways...its not exactly a sexy bike, or performance oriented, etc. BUT it is shooting to be a steady horse and low maintenance. -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 02:43:08 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:43:08 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: This has GOT to make it interesting for the surveyors Message-ID: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/03/09/2840406.htm (WS) When one city moves 3 feet to the West, another moves 1 foot, and then on the OTHER SIDE of the CONTINENT a city moves an inch West, it has to be "interesting". I wonder what this does to international boundaries up in mountains? I wonder if they will have to start moving the inspection stations. Doug visited Buenos Aires "back when it was further East".... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From rsorens at comcast.net Wed Mar 10 03:22:11 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:22:11 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo (was: T-shirts) In-Reply-To: <8CC8DA039ACE32E-1F38-CDCA@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <22684268FB5640FBA0D40B5C287B22F3@Tekki> >Are you serious? Am I serious? AM "I" Serious???? I am serious about us being a joke, yeah! That's about all I'm serious about. Rick From brian at whatever2k.com Wed Mar 10 03:39:43 2010 From: brian at whatever2k.com (Brian Burdette) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:39:43 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda NT700 Review In-Reply-To: <4B965028.4060506@argolis.org> References: <4B965028.4060506@argolis.org> Message-ID: <4B97147F.9080008@whatever2k.com> On 03/09/2010 08:42 AM, Matt Piechota wrote: > edde m wrote: >> Don't forget this is sport rider magazine reviewing...but check out >> the pics...Montgomeryville cycle has one in stock... >> >> http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_1004_2010_honda_nt700v/index.html > > It'll be interesting to see the comparisons with the F800ST. I'd guess > the F800 is far more sporty for a little more money ($9999 vs. $10900), > it that's what you're in to. :) for 9999 you get bags. The 10900 F800ST is a bare bike with no centerstand. The F800ST only has those silly cloth BMW bags available stock ... a set of decent Givi bags will set you back another $700 or so. This thing is exactly the market served by the K75, and possibly done better than the original K75. Time will tell. -- Brian Burdette -- brian at whatever2k dot com -- Pleasant Hill MO, USA From brian at whatever2k.com Wed Mar 10 04:01:42 2010 From: brian at whatever2k.com (Brian Burdette) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:01:42 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hitch for bike In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B9719A6.7060104@whatever2k.com> > And now to get back to a bike topic (grin) > > I have seen several bikes in this group with a trailer hitchs.. > > Are there any local dealers/trailer hitch dealers in our area ?? > The prices I have seen on the web range from $300 to $600.. Does anyone know > the differences ?? > > I will also be looking for a used trailer.. So if anyone has any leads feel > free to share (grin) > > Any brands that anyone can recommend ?? I have a uni-go hitch I used on my R1150GS to pull a Trailmaster Aspen Classic. http://www.trailmasterinc.com/aspclassic/alptestm.html The hitch will fit a R1150GS or an R1150R for sure, probably also will fit a R11xx anything. The rear frame is real similer. First point. The R1150GS is totally geared wrong to pull a trailer. First gear is too tall, and 6th is useless. I solved this with the adventure GS gearbox, which has a shorter first and 6th. I'd hate to pull a heavier trailer with a stock R1150 anything. Second point. I hated pulling the trailer. I'm a minimalist, and I like keeping things light and simple. She wanted the trailer, I caved. If possible, take less stuff. My final solution was a K100RS with a reynold's hitch. The 2-valve K bike is really tough to beat as a trailer motorcycle and they're amazingly tough. And most importantly ... no matter what you do, make sure you use relays for the trailer lights. No BMW I've ever met had a wire gauge to the tail and turn lights capable of handling the load of a trailer, not using a relay pack to isolate the trailer light is asking for your rear wiring to melt down. -- Brian Burdette -- brian at whatever2k dot com -- Pleasant Hill MO, USA From motoedde2 at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 04:03:40 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:03:40 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: StereoType Test Message-ID: Too funny... http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/celebrity-pictures-snoop-dogg-stewart.jpg -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Mar 10 04:07:59 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:07:59 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <20100307115057.KG3VB.244201.root@ispmxfep11-z02> References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> Message-ID: <4B96D4CF.23197.1ED3910B@localhost> > > > This email is just to get an idea of who'd be interested. If I get > > decent response, I'll start figuring out where to get them, how much, > > etc., etc. > > > I would like a T-shirt or two. I would want Mac Pac to show. I had my Mac Pac shirt on in Daytona and found that the Pac is known all around. > Please put me down for a shirt. Large. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Wed Mar 10 12:21:11 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cheap Cell Phone In-Reply-To: <00a401cabff5$7f38c4c0$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: <173050360.13833391268223671193.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > Joey's 18th birthday approaches and we are thinking that if he is going > off to college he probably will need a cell phone. This phone will be for > making phone calls. He does not need any texting or "apps". (We are bad > parents.) Joe, There is something else to think about. Joey is heading off to college. Texting is part of college culture, good or bad. Many professors use texting to inform students of up coming class events. Extra curricular's do as well. I know that you do not think he needs it, and he may not either. But to not have any access to it would be social suicide. Just a thought, and I am not a fan of texting as a primary mode of communication. I like punctuation and complete thoughts too much. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From pasegc at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 13:17:57 2010 From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:17:57 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hitch for bike In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:56 PM, James A. Sterling wrote: > And now to get back to a bike topic (grin) > > I have seen several bikes in this group with a trailer hitchs.. > > Are there any local dealers/trailer hitch dealers in our area ?? > The prices I have seen on the web range from $300 to $600.. Does anyone know > the differences ?? > I'm surprised. The difference is $300.(grin). Best bet is to preship via UPS/FEDEX. It's there when you get there with no issues. Now the war begins. Gerry Cavanaugh Coatesville, PA From piechota at argolis.org Wed Mar 10 13:40:43 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:40:43 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cheap Cell Phone In-Reply-To: <173050360.13833391268223671193.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <173050360.13833391268223671193.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B97A15B.40005@argolis.org> johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > There is something else to think about. Joey is heading off to college. Texting is part of college culture, good or bad. Many professors use texting to inform students of up coming class events. Extra curricular's do as well. I know that you do not think he needs it, and he may not either. But to not have any access to it would be social suicide. Just a thought, and I am not a fan of texting as a primary mode of communication. I like punctuation and complete thoughts too much. Agreed. Although not using full words and punctuation is borne of laziness, it's not like the phone frcs u 2 use txt spk. A friend of mine had a phone awhile back that had limited minutes (I think it was pay-as-you-go), but unlimited texting. That may be the way to go. Most of the youngins won't call to say, "I'm leaving now, I'll meet you at Hendrix Hall in 10 minutes", they'll text it. From piechota at argolis.org Wed Mar 10 13:53:14 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:53:14 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda NT700 Review In-Reply-To: <4B97147F.9080008@whatever2k.com> References: <4B965028.4060506@argolis.org> <4B97147F.9080008@whatever2k.com> Message-ID: <4B97A44A.6050901@argolis.org> Brian Burdette wrote: > The F800ST only has those silly cloth BMW bags available stock ... a set > of decent Givi bags will set you back another $700 or so. How much would it cost to improve the performance on the NT700 to match? :) Like Edde and I alluded to, the value is in the eye of the beholder. I'd rather start with the faster bike and farkle over time (I just bought cases for my 2004 last year). It's easier to say, 'yeah, i need to buy bags eventually' rather than, 'This bike needs a power bump and to lose 100lbs eventually.' From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 14:04:26 2010 From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (hugh mccann) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:04:26 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cheap Cell Phone In-Reply-To: <173050360.13833391268223671193.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <00a401cabff5$7f38c4c0$4001a8c0@FastHP> <173050360.13833391268223671193.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I don't know it your college age child would qualify, but i heard about this on the radio https://www.safelinkwireless.com/EnrollmentPublic/home.aspx I know when i was in college, i was well below the poverty line. In PA there was a 2 year gap where i wasn't claimed on my parents Income tax was required to be eligible for grants and other freebies. just a thought. On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:21 AM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: >> Joey's 18th birthday approaches and we are thinking that if he is going >> off to college he probably will need a cell phone. This phone will be for >> making phone calls. He does not need any texting or "apps". (We are bad >> parents.) > > > Joe, > > There is something else to think about. Joey is heading off to college. Texting is part of college culture, good or bad. Many professors use texting to inform students of up coming class events. Extra curricular's do as well. I know that you do not think he needs it, and he may not either. But to not have any access to it would be social suicide. Just a thought, and I am not a fan of texting as a primary mode of communication. I like punctuation and complete thoughts too much. > > John Clauss > K1100RS > R75/6 > In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From ephoet at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 14:47:46 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:47:46 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cool BMW Motorrad Concept 6 In-Reply-To: <863792.28298.qm@web56408.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <863792.28298.qm@web56408.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Keith D Gregory wrote: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRfcYY6YiYA&NR=1 > > Has BMW suddenly turned into a Japanese motorcycle manufacturer? It seems there's a new engine design coming out every year. > > -kdg > > _______________________________________________ I doubt this incarnation will ever see the light of day on the production line. But it doesn't cost too much to dream out load. Erik H From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 10 15:46:58 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:46:58 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record References: <2a717.79cd3c92.38c84013@aol.com> Message-ID: <98E7428F77C24F1BAC38326A15E79C74@dellfe483b726d> > I won't be there, since my ECOMOBILE could be considered a non BMW > since the custom made part was done by PERAVES, it could corrupt the > validity of the record. > ==================================================> > Gee, couldn't you join us and just not have it counted in the lineup? > Roddy. Dan, Roddy is right ! If you have the time and don't mind the trip north, why don't you join in on the fun. The ECOmobile will be an added attraction. Our ride will not take more than one hour to complete. Bob Jones and staff will welcome your presence I can assure you ! Please give it some consideration. Regards, Todd Trumbore From wateredg at interlog.com Wed Mar 10 15:50:03 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:50:03 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cool BMW Motorrad Concept 6 References: <863792.28298.qm@web56408.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1DEDE96B319E4ED9A2F7EEC47A5A1528@9200c> Hello Erik, From: "Erik Hoet" [...] > I doubt this incarnation will ever see the light of day on the production > line. > > But it doesn't cost too much to dream out load. I can't think of any practical reason to have a 6-cylinder engine in a bike. Then again, I can't think of practical reasons for having a horizontally opposed twin in a motorcycle, or an air-cooled push-rod V-twin, other than there is a market that will consume these goods. If BMW can identify a reasonably sized market of "more is better" thinkers, then more cylinders will be perceived as "better" than a mere 4 :-) I, like you, don't think there is a big enough market to support such a creation. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 10 16:05:25 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:05:25 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ride For The Cure, Ride For The Record, 2 May 2010 9 am References: <3D454DDD794043498137CD9F5D1C322E@dellfe483b726d> <8CC8E017AB7FA72-2B60-136BB@webmail-d080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <35BB7F2425B84628A129BD93DFF63EBD@dellfe483b726d> > Count me in - I will try to drag along some others > > Jay Scales > r1200rt Jay, that's great news and..............Oh yes, I've acquired 200 BMW roundels for placement on your friends brand X motorbikes :) Just in case our numbers are a little short, if you catch my drift :) Todd Trumbore Harleysville, PA From brian at whatever2k.com Wed Mar 10 17:16:59 2010 From: brian at whatever2k.com (Brian Burdette) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:16:59 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda NT700 Review In-Reply-To: <4B97A44A.6050901@argolis.org> References: <4B965028.4060506@argolis.org> <4B97147F.9080008@whatever2k.com> <4B97A44A.6050901@argolis.org> Message-ID: <4B97D40B.1030901@whatever2k.com> >> The F800ST only has those silly cloth BMW bags available stock ... a >> set of decent Givi bags will set you back another $700 or so. > > How much would it cost to improve the performance on the NT700 to match? :) Why would I want to? It has plenty of go for the type of riding I do. The target audience of the NT700V is exactly what BMW is abandoning ... people who want a competent but slightly boring touring motorcycle that they can ride for a very long time without having to fiddle with it. That's people who liked the K75 more than the K100 and K1100, people who liked the airhead more than the oilhead, people who consider a motorcycle a legitimate form of transportation rather than a toy. They want to change the tires and oil and ride the thing for 200k. The NT700V is targeted directly at me, it's the bike I've been waiting for someone to build since BMW quit making the K75. The only question is if they'll still be selling it when I give up on keeping my R1150GS on the road. -- Brian Burdette -- brian at whatever2k dot com -- Pleasant Hill MO, USA From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 10 17:41:29 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:41:29 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Extra BMW Motorbikes Available Upon Request For Record Attempt References: <415679C91597495595B9ED40CA0385C4@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <6BADD15A532C4AD79A95A0980618FA5F@dellfe483b726d> Guinness World Record Attempt, Sunday, May 2nd 2010 Friends, Riders & GWR particpants, This is just amazing how fellow mac-pac members are willing to share their extra BMW motorbikes to allow non BMW riding members join in on the fun and to help us reach our goal on this record attempt. Earle Bare just contacted me and volunteered two of his extra BMW bikes for use in this record attempt. If someone is interested, and I am hoping they are, PLEASE contact Earle to make arrangements. The one bike just needs a new engine and the other a transmission and two new tires. His only request is that you supply the needed parts along with a stopwatch and to follow him to Pocono Raceway to see if you have what it takes to qualify for this unique opportunity...............OK, just kidding :) I believe Roddy Irwin and Ducdude also volunteered a fine Bavarian machine for this event. Please contact these riders if you are interested and to see if these bikes are still available. I plan to have about 4 or 5 motorbikes loaned out to friends myself. We will need to pull together to break this record with such short notice. We have the disadvantage of not having enough time to place ads in magazines. I'm hoping we will do alright through personal contacts, email posting, networking and phone calls to clubs and various organizations. Yes, we can do this ! Thanks again for all the interest. Happy Motoring, Todd Trumbore From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 18:59:54 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:59:54 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Labrador Trip Initiation In-Reply-To: <4B94FBE1.7080709@argolis.org> References: <9D8C9BC809F440079AD66BCE1066C908@home.robinson.org> <4B94FBE1.7080709@argolis.org> Message-ID: So, other than being lunch for dogs, did you guys discuss the Labrador trip? Like, when, how long, what route, who is going? What kind of roads? IMWTK. I admit that I also would have forgotten about the ride if I saw those lovely dogs at Alain's and Suzie's. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 10 19:16:02 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:16:02 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] unreal 65 R69S References: <659541.64434.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2965D981DA90420693E106A47CD2F20E@dellfe483b726d> > For sale on fleabay...the accessories alone are worth a tiny fortune... > http://tinyurl.com/yjp38vc *sigh* > Arla Beautiful man..............just pure beauty ! A rare find indeed . I've got to sign up the new owner for our next vintage ride. Todd From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 19:23:19 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:23:19 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rupert River hydro power going to NYC via HVdc Message-ID: I heard on National Public Radio today about this new project to deliver 2 gigawatts of electric power to NYC from 'renewable energy sources in Canada', via a proposed High Voltage DC power cable that is to be laid under Lake Champlain and the Hudson River. The various reports seem to deliberately obscure the sources of the power, but I think it is obviously the hydroelectric projects in northern Quebec. This would include the new addition from the MacPac-visited Rupert River, diverted into the hydro project as of last year. The technology is amazing to me. The DC cables are said to be 6" in diameter, operating at about 300kV: http://www.chpexpress.com/technology.php They claim that line losses over the 380 mile stretch with AC would be prohibitive due to EMF mostly, and there is no EMF radiated from the DC lines. They do not explain the insulation technology. This is awesome technology, including the part about how the cables are buried beneath the lake, sea or river bottom. A video shows this along with other info on the main site: http://www.transmissiondevelopers.com/project.asp?id=10&name=Champlain-HudsonPowerExpress However, from a depressing social point of view, I could summarize this story as "new advances in underwater HVdc transmission now make it economically feasible to send hydroelectric power from northern Quebec to the US market", It only requires the Cree Indians to be relocated out of their traditional hunting grounds and all the rivers to be dammed. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 10 19:29:49 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:29:49 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cheap Cell Phone References: <173050360.13833391268223671193.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: >> Joey's 18th birthday approaches and we are thinking that if he is going >> off to college he probably will need a cell phone. This phone will be for >> making phone calls. He does not need any texting or "apps". (We are bad >> parents.) Joe, Man............Joey's 18 already, where does the time fly. Hey instead of the cell phone and all those electronic gadgets, it might be time to start looking for a nice Bavarian twin for him to tool around campus. That ought to bring on the gals...... Todd From Gary5410 at aol.com Wed Mar 10 19:36:24 2010 From: Gary5410 at aol.com (Gary5410 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:36:24 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rupert River hydro power going to NYC via HVdc Message-ID: <25160.79911a8b.38c94eb8@aol.com> Doug, Thanks for that! Gary Christman <> From jack.riepe at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 19:39:56 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:39:56 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rupert River hydro power going to NYC via HVdc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Doug: You wrote: "However, from a depressing social point of view, I could summarize this story as "new advances in underwater HVdc transmission now make it economically feasible to send hydroelectric power from northern Quebec to the US market", It only requires the Cree Indians to be relocated out of their traditional hunting grounds and all the rivers to be dammed." There is sometging incredibly sad about that. It's likely that I will never get up to where these villages and free-running rivers once were. But I will still miss them just the same. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 10 19:46:40 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:46:40 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fw: Man 'killed by urinating on power line in ditch' - Telegraph Message-ID: http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7352362/Man-killed-by-urinating-on-power-line-in-ditch.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 20:19:12 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:19:12 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rupert River hydro power going to NYC via HVdc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/10/10, Doug Raymond wrote: > I heard on National Public Radio today about this new project to > deliver 2 gigawatts of electric power to NYC from 'renewable energy > sources in Canada', via a proposed High Voltage DC power cable that is > to be laid under Lake Champlain and the Hudson River. They already send a lot in via HVDC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_-_New_England_Transmission > The various reports seem to deliberately obscure the sources of the > power, but I think it is obviously the hydroelectric projects in > northern Quebec. This would include the new addition from the > MacPac-visited Rupert River, diverted into the hydro project as of > last year. The existing line takes power from the La Grande project. Again MASSIVE Hydro plant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bay_Project > The technology is amazing to me. The DC cables are said to be 6" in > diameter, operating at about 300kV: > http://www.chpexpress.com/technology.php > > They claim that line losses over the 380 mile stretch with AC would be > prohibitive due to EMF mostly, and there is no EMF radiated from the > DC lines. They do not explain the insulation technology. Not EMF. There are too much inductive losses for overhead. For burried cable the capacitive looses would be prohibitive. You would get no power at the other end. W/ DC you chage it once and you are done. There is nothing fancy about the insulation. DC is a LOT easier on insulation than AC. The polarity is not changing every 120th of a second. DC is used a LOT for long lines. It has been used forever between the Dalles on the Columbia River and Sylma in CA outside of LA. If you run cross country in Nevada you will pass under the lines. I notice them all the time cause they are only two conductors not three. One is positive, one is negative or "bipolar" not the disease. They can run monopole iwth an earth return, but Greg Roberts and a lot of other people get VERY IRATE quickly as their pipelines plate themselves out onto the dirt at a horrendous rate. > This is awesome technology, including the part about how the cables > are buried beneath the lake, sea or river bottom. A video shows this > along with other info on the main site: > http://www.transmissiondevelopers.com/project.asp?id=10&name=Champlain-HudsonPowerExpress This whole thing is "out of sight out of mind". If I can't see it, then it does not exist. It is cheaper to run overhead with towers, but the litigation drives you up the wall. > However, from a depressing social point of view, I could summarize > this story as "new advances in underwater HVdc transmission now make > it economically feasible to send hydroelectric power from northern > Quebec to the US market", It only requires the Cree Indians to be > relocated out of their traditional hunting grounds and all the rivers > to be dammed. Not like it would be the first time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bay_Project#Social_impact See Tom Cutter's comment earlier about ALL green energy. All of it shuffles a LOT of people and stuff around cause you are taking diffuse energy and then concentrating it to send it somewhere else. At least they are not still using mercury pool "thyristors" any more. It has all gone solid state. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-voltage_direct_current http://wapedia.mobi/en/High-voltage_direct_current?t=8. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-voltage_direct_current There are a bunch of DC links in the center of the country to allow power to be transferred from the East to the West reliably. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From rys at R2Controls.com Wed Mar 10 20:20:16 2010 From: rys at R2Controls.com (Rick Rys) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:20:16 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rupert River hydro power going to NYC via HVdc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <018201cac08f$1932b3d0$4b981b70$@com> Fascinating how the Tesla - Edison debate continues. One of the big power companies that undoubtedly is involved in this activity is GDF Suez. http://www.gdfsuezna.com/ Although you may not have heard of them, they are a large international Power company with many (70+) generating plants in the north east. Power companies are struggling to comply with new rules requiring renewable to be a certain percentage of the power mix. One way to do that may be to import renewable power from Canada. Rick Rys 2006 R1200 GSA From kgbruce at verizon.net Wed Mar 10 20:37:43 2010 From: kgbruce at verizon.net (Ken Bruce) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:37:43 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Labrador Trip Initiation References: <9D8C9BC809F440079AD66BCE1066C908@home.robinson.org> <4B94FBE1.7080709@argolis.org> Message-ID: <73BE91E528284F7682B32E34D0713743@lenovo4903350b> > So, other than being lunch for dogs, did you guys discuss the Labrador > trip? > > Like, when, how long, what route, who is going? What kind of roads? > > IMWTK. > > I admit that I also would have forgotten about the ride if I saw those > lovely dogs at Alain's and Suzie's. > > -- > -- --------------- > Doug Raymond --------------------------------- Hi Doug, This is the rough outline we came up with: Depart around 8/5 & return around 8/15. Head for Montreal, then Labrador City where we'll catch the trans Labrador Highway to Goose Bay. The Trans Lab has allegedly been extended from Goose Bay to Red Bay & Blanc Sablon where we'll catch a ferry to St Barbre in northern Newfoundland. From there we ride down to southern Newfound.& catch another ferry to Nova Scotia, ride across New Brunswick & back home via an as yet undetermined route. It looks as though it will easily take 10 days to turn the trip with plenty of camping & a chance to see some icebergs. I'm doing more research on the condition of the TL and the cost/schedule of the ferries. Those are the basics to date......but ya still have to pass the initiation ;) Ken Bruce From ridebackroads at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 20:49:39 2010 From: ridebackroads at gmail.com (Carl Boler) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:49:39 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Labrador Trip Initiation In-Reply-To: References: <9D8C9BC809F440079AD66BCE1066C908@home.robinson.org> <4B94FBE1.7080709@argolis.org> Message-ID: <258ebbc51003101249y3f21b434x8977427f6c1968d6@mail.gmail.com> Hi Guys, I sorta of messed up. Can't upload my trip report and other useful information that you folks might want to read while heading north. If anyone is interest I'd be more than happy to email it to you...just ping me off line. Carl On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Doug Raymond wrote: > So, other than being lunch for dogs, did you guys discuss the Labrador > trip? > > Like, when, how long, what route, who is going? What kind of roads? > > IMWTK. > > I admit that I also would have forgotten about the ride if I saw those > lovely dogs at Alain's and Suzie's. > > -- > -- --------------- > Doug Raymond > R1150RT '02 > Ambler, PA > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100310/45ff92cb/attachment.html From mrmevans at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 21:07:23 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:07:23 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Temp Plastic Panel Repair Terminology? Message-ID: <8296f6de1003101307s54f9afb9mc4d8344a2cefeb9b@mail.gmail.com> Surely there are some on the list who have seen stunters and tuners who perform makeshift plastic panel repairs by drilling holes on either side of a crack and 'stiching' it together with bailing wire (or something more corrosion resistant). Is there a more 'formal' name for this type of repair aside from asinine, redneck or kludged? I was looking for some images of such repairs but I'm not sure what to Google. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From 321design at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 21:27:09 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:27:09 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Temp Plastic Panel Repair Terminology? In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003101307s54f9afb9mc4d8344a2cefeb9b@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003101307s54f9afb9mc4d8344a2cefeb9b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <74d2fbe11003101327t11f192f3l54698712469736b5@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Michael Evans wrote: > Surely there are some on the list who have seen stunters and tuners > who perform makeshift plastic panel repairs by drilling holes on > either side of a crack and 'stiching' it together with bailing wire > (or something more corrosion resistant). > > Is there a more 'formal' name for this type of repair aside from > asinine, redneck or kludged? > > I was looking for some images of such repairs but I'm not sure what to Google. You may find some images on this site: http://thereifixedit.com/ -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From wayne at 2zars.com Wed Mar 10 21:47:02 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:47:02 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MotoCzysz Puts the Sizzle in Electric Motorcycles Message-ID: <7fbead931003101347p2763b2e7q1c798549eb13106a@mail.gmail.com> http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/03/motoczysz-electric-motorcycle/ (WS) We are in the midst of an electric motorcycle revolution, and nowhere is that more obvious than on the racetrack. The new technology is not about tweaking the status quo. It?s about shattering it. And that?s just what Michael Czysz plans to do at the TT Zero motorcycle race. The head guy at MotoCzysz ? that?s pronounced MotoSizz, as in sizzle ? is returning to the Isle of Man for another run at the famed Mountain Course on a supersexy electric motorcycle that is sure to make your heart skip a beat. Last year?s bike, the equally gorgeous E1PC, used three motors and 10 lithium-ion batteries. Czysz says it would do zero to 120 mph in seven seconds, but we?ll have to take his word for it. Mechanical gremlins sidelined the bike during the inaugural TTXGP electric motorcycle race. As good as that bike may have been, it?s last year?s model. The bike we?ll see this year shares just 10 percent of its parts with the E1PC. Czysz says the technology is changing too fast to look back. ?At this stage of the series, nobody should be showing up with the same bike they did last year. Period,? he says. Besides ? it isn?t like Czysz isn?t full of ideas. He?s a high-end architect and motorcycle fanatic with a history of going against the grain and redefining what?s possible in motorcycle design with panache and innovation. MotoGP god Valentino Rossi checks out the future of his sport during last year's TTXGP. MotoGP god Valentino Rossi checks out the future of his sport during last year's TTXGP. Czysz and his crew in Portland, Oregon, made their name with the C1 990, a MotoGP contender the likes of which the world had never seen. It had a full carbon-fiber frame. An innovative suspension. And a glorious 220-horsepower longitudinally mounted engine. Those who rode it raved about it, but the bike never saw competition because MotoGP?s rulemakers switched from 1,000-cc engines to 800-cc engines. Still, why make the 180-degree change to eMotos? ?We had taken the C1 to a level that we thought was worthy of going to the next level,? Czysz said. They were going to prep the C1 for production. But while talking to different manufacturers, they got the sense the trend is tipping toward fuel efficiency over maximum power. So that got him thinking. ?We needed to refocus for something more relevant and utilize our existing assets of design, innovation and creativity to focus on the beginning,? he says. That said, leaving the C1 behind wasn?t an easy decision. ?That decision actually sucked,? Czysz says. ?I liked everything about the (gas-powered) bikes. I didn?t like anything about the eMoto until I got more educated on it. Eventually everything made sense.? Now that it?s making sense for him, Czysz is ready to wow the world once more. The crux of his latest design is the all-new Electric D1g1tal Dr1ve System with a proprietary controller, the Electrical Storage System. Czysz claims the package is one of the highest torque-density motors in the industry. He opted to design his own motor because he doesn?t think the stuff that?s out there is up to spec. ?They are made for golf carts and commercial use,? he says. ?They are designed with a different priority list than what we are coming up with now.? Agni Motors, among others, may disagree. Team Agni smoked the rest of the field at last year?s TTXGP, finishing more than four minutes ahead of the second-place finisher and lapping the course 10 mph faster than anyone else. Agni is back for the TTXGP championship now that the race series has split from the Isle of Man. It also is providing the motors for the Mavizen electric superbike. Czysz is using a liquid-cooled brushless DC (BLDC) motor with an internal permanent magnet, or IPM, design. It produces 75 kilowatts (100 horsepower) and 250 pound feet of torque. If you can?t follow the geek-speak and alphabet soup, this is all you need to know ? the motor provides boatloads of torque and near-optimum 93 percent efficiency under continuous heavy load. Czysz says this year?s E1PC will be ?like no bike you have ever seen,? and based upon last year?s bike, we believe him. edd_render The MotoCzysz EDD is a hell of a thing. The ?suitcase? design frame features a central spine instead of twin spars like a conventional motorcycle. That provides faster access to the 10 batteries, which can be swapped out in seconds. The rear suspension is all-new, but the otherworldly Czysz fork is back. And that?s about the end of the similarities with last year?s ride. ?This year?s bike should make last year?s bike look quite antiquated,? Czysz says. ?It is five years more advanced than last year.? So what?s it look like? He isn?t saying. Even if he wanted to unveil the bike now instead of sticking to his plan to unveil it at the Isle of Man prior to the race on June 9, he couldn?t. It doesn?t actually exist yet. He?s got a motor and controller on the dyno, batteries on the test bench and more than 100 parts in the queue to be manufactured. With three months until the flag drops, Czysz and company have their work cut out for them. But they?re no strangers to coming down to the wire. Mark Miller hadn?t even ridden last year?s entry before race day. It doesn?t matter how good you are ? that?s the definition of gutsy considering run-off areas on the Mountain Course often consist of stone walls. Despite the scramble to finish and last year?s DNF due to electrical issues, Czysz is confident his bike will not only take the checkered flag but also the ?10,000 prize ? about $16,000 ? promised to the first rider to post a 100-mph lap. And who?s his biggest competition? First and foremost, he says, ?the mountain.? A 37.5-mile winding course is a test to any bike, let alone one packed with up-to-the-second technology. And then there?s Team Agni. ?I have a hunch of what they are doing, evolving and polishing,? he says, so he won?t be completely surprised. ?But they have 25 years in the electric-drive world and that counts for something.? Czysz is out to do more than race. He wants to be a player in the emerging electric-motorcycle market. If you?ve got a hankering for an eMoto of your own, you can pick up a MotoCzysz D1g1tal Dr1ve system complete with batteries and a chassis ? designed to accept virtually any swingarm ? for $42,500. It?s less if you don?t want the batteries. Step up now and Czysz will knock $10,000 off the price if you?re among the first 15 people in line. Hell ? he?s even willing to lease bikes to qualified teams running in the TT Zero or TTXGP. We know what you?re thinking ? you want the whole bike, so when can you buy one? You can?t. Not yet anyway. There?s too much proprietary race tech in it. Not that you?d want to spend six figures for a motorcycle. That said, there?s a good chance a 2010 E1PC replica could be for sale within the year. Read More http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/03/motoczysz-electric-motorcycle/#ixzz0hoRwMMzV -- Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From mrmevans at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 22:18:43 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:18:43 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Add a Little Bang to Your Lighting Message-ID: <8296f6de1003101418u6d38cdc3n7e32438f117060d3@mail.gmail.com> Home lighting for the gun lover on the list... http://iddaily.com/InteriorDesignDaily/?tag=gun-chandalier -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From tpcutter at aol.com Wed Mar 10 22:19:00 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:19:00 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rupert River hydro power going to NYC via HVdc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC8EB6D1D42553-32A4-39D2@webmail-d019.sysops.aol.com> <> Heck, do it the old way. Send them some blankets. (did he really post that?) --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Mar 10 22:19:51 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:19:51 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Temp Plastic Panel Repair Terminology? In-Reply-To: <74d2fbe11003101327t11f192f3l54698712469736b5@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003101307s54f9afb9mc4d8344a2cefeb9b@mail.gmail.com> <74d2fbe11003101327t11f192f3l54698712469736b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <58206.12.181.211.35.1268259591.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Michael Evans wrote: >> Surely there are some on the list who have seen stunters and tuners >> who perform makeshift plastic panel repairs by drilling holes on >> either side of a crack and 'stiching' it together with bailing wire >> (or something more corrosion resistant). >> >> Is there a more 'formal' name for this type of repair aside from >> asinine, redneck or kludged? >> >> I was looking for some images of such repairs but I'm not sure what to >> Google. > > > You may find some images on this site: > > http://thereifixedit.com/ > Like this one: http://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/129111001524953484.jpg Seriously, this is a legitimate repair technique. I used it all the time when I worked on aircraft. It was common for the aircraft to develop cracks from vibration. Very common on Piper left side windows. One fix was to drill a 1/8 hole at the end of the crack then a series of 3/32 holes along the crack on each side. Run a piece of thin (0.014") diameter safety wire (soft 302 stainless) in a shoe-lace pattern and tighten. The hole at the end reduced the stress and reduced the tendency to crack. The safety wire prevented the sides of the crack from moving and spreading the crack. My friend who was in Vietnam said it was very common on the Huey helicopters. There is no official word that I know of other than safety wiring. Ride Safe, Joe > > -- > Rob Haut > West Chester PA > '05 Rockster > '61 FC-170DRW > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > > From mrmevans at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 22:29:27 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:29:27 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Temp Plastic Panel Repair Terminology? In-Reply-To: <58206.12.181.211.35.1268259591.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <8296f6de1003101307s54f9afb9mc4d8344a2cefeb9b@mail.gmail.com> <74d2fbe11003101327t11f192f3l54698712469736b5@mail.gmail.com> <58206.12.181.211.35.1268259591.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003101429j50e658b3t8178016e0cb7a36@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Joe Dille wrote: > > Seriously, this is a legitimate repair technique. ?I used it all the time > when I worked on aircraft. ?It was common for the aircraft to develop > cracks from vibration. ?Very common on Piper left side windows. ?One fix > was to drill a 1/8 hole at the end of the crack then a series of 3/32 > holes along the crack on each side. ?Run a piece of thin (0.014") diameter > safety wire (soft 302 stainless) in a shoe-lace pattern and tighten. > Thanks Joe, I immediately found this image of a repair on a bike 0 http://patineto.smugmug.com/photos/2080507-M.jpg This comes from a posting on ADV rider of a project "R80-G/S" on Airhead Dirtbikes: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56044&page=5 -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From jasiii at earthlink.net Wed Mar 10 23:14:17 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:14:17 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but Happy Birthday Jack Message-ID: Congratulations on making it anther year. This year I look forward to getting in a few rides with you Have a Super Birthday Jim -- Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From ephoet at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 23:45:43 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:45:43 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rupert River hydro power going to NYC via HVdc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > On 3/10/10, Doug Raymond wrote: >> I heard on National Public Radio today about this new project to >> ?deliver 2 gigawatts of electric power to NYC from 'renewable energy >> ?sources in Canada', via a proposed High Voltage DC power cable that is >> ?to be laid under Lake Champlain and the Hudson River. > > They already send a lot in via HVDC > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_-_New_England_Transmission > > Yes, I helped install one of the HVDC terminals at Comerford NH, near Littleton in 1986 before GE dropped out of the business. ABB later extended the line south to Sandy Pond Mass, and upgraded the power rating from 640 MW to 2000 MW . The line remains operational at +/- 450KV DC, the Comerford station is essentially out of service now. Jim Robinson and I stopped there in 2002 on the way to the Trenton rally. The main reason for DC transmission is that the two power systems are asynchronous. (Not in the same time, literally) Both systems spin (rotate) at 60hz, but they drift in time with respect to one another. Power flow on electrical grids is driven by that slight shift (Phase angle) in time (voltage drives it too, just not as significantly). Point is that if that time shift is more than a few tenths of a degree, there is a huge power surge where the driving end (generator) has to speed up the lagging end of the line (load). Then bad things happen (blackouts) Mechanical analogy is a large engine with a very long drive shaft. Normally the load would lag the engine a bit as the shaft twists (torque) under load. A few degrees on mech shaft may be acceptable. if it shifts more than that due to high loads, or if there are load -to- generator oscillations (instability) then the shaft will break the shear pin. In an electrical grid, the shear pin is the circuit breaker. The two power systems are too large and/or too far apart to keep them running together (synchronously). By converting to DC, you lose all the "spinning" info, its just raw power. The two converter stations at each end match the "spin" or 60 hz of the local region. Keeps the lights on and the customer happy. The company mentioned may develop the line, however the HVDC technology will be provided by ABB or Siemens or Same deal with the Oregon to CA HVDC tie. And as Brian mentioned, long AC lines have inductive problems, which would have to be corrected every hundred Km or so with a capacitor station, but that's just too expensive to build. (The line itself stores energy in the elec and magnetic fields around the line, that contributes to the time shift problem) DC lines have their own issues, but it becomes the design of economic choice for underwater lines to islands or where long lines are needed to connect the generator to the load. Routing it underwater down Lake Champlain and the Hudson is an attempt to get around all the siting problems associated with aerial power lines (not in MY backyard). It is cheaper to build towers, but adding in the costs of land acquisition and rights of way make it uneconomical. (How may new aerial power lines have you seen gone up in the last 25 years??) So the cable would follow state owned land, which private owners cannot block. But they will have to convince the state of NY to do it. A good idea, I think, in terms of transmission options. Not so good for the headwaters and Indians, err First Nations peoples. Hydro is not free in that sense. Somebody gets to have a dam and lake. Erik Hoet From Braveirwin at aol.com Thu Mar 11 00:18:52 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:18:52 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] unreal 65 R69S Message-ID: <38f92.74d3ed15.38c990ec@aol.com> In a message dated 3/10/2010 2:16:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: Beautiful man..............just pure beauty ! A rare find indeed . I've got to sign up the new owner for our next vintage ride. ================================================= And of course the May 2nd event. By the way, it would be nice to have some classics in that parade. I'm going to push my brother to bring his toaster tank. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From tpcutter at aol.com Thu Mar 11 01:01:25 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:01:25 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MotoCzysz Puts the Sizzle in Electric Motorcycles In-Reply-To: <7fbead931003101347p2763b2e7q1c798549eb13106a@mail.gmail.com> References: <7fbead931003101347p2763b2e7q1c798549eb13106a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC8ECD81E0A93B-A140-54AB@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> Wayne- it is customary to NOT copy-and-paste copyrighted material, but to instead just post the URL link to the original site, where the reader can not only read the author's writing, but see who wrote the piece and see what else the author intended to post with that material. It's a courtesy thing. I know I get plenty pissed when somebody copies my written stuff onto their chat list or into their website. OK, now everybody can start on me about how I have a stick in my ass. Let's ask the only PROFESSIONAL author on this list what he thinks. Jack? --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From corey.lyba at gmail.com Thu Mar 11 01:22:34 2010 From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:22:34 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Extra BMW Motorbikes Available Upon Request For Record Attempt In-Reply-To: <6BADD15A532C4AD79A95A0980618FA5F@dellfe483b726d> References: <415679C91597495595B9ED40CA0385C4@dellfe483b726d> <6BADD15A532C4AD79A95A0980618FA5F@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: Kimi will be out of town for the event and said that someone may ride her pink bike. They rider does not have to wear the chaps, but it will make for better pictures. From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Mar 10 01:13:50 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:13:50 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ride For The Cure, Ride For The Record, 2 May 2010 9 am Message-ID: <2dc1f.53e74436.38c84c4e@aol.com> In a message dated 3/9/2010 5:40:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: In addition to food, drinks, door prizes and discounts on parts and accessories, I will be handing out awards for longest distant rider and oldest motorbike, youngest rider and oldest rider ! We might even have commemorative T-Shirts made available to mark the occasion. ================================ Todd, be sure to let Stan Meyers and Ed Fisher know about this. They have many BMW friends also. Hmmmmm..... I can just see some competition trying to out do us by attempting to organize one of these during the national MOA Rally. But we'll hold the title for a while. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100309/e5947d1f/attachment.html From bmwdick at gmail.com Thu Mar 11 00:45:42 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:45:42 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Add a Little Bang to Your Lighting In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003101418u6d38cdc3n7e32438f117060d3@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003101418u6d38cdc3n7e32438f117060d3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I think that should be called, "Bling Bang." On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Michael Evans wrote: > Home lighting for the gun lover on the list... > > http://iddaily.com/InteriorDesignDaily/?tag=gun-chandalier > > > > -- > Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From quinntex2000 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 11 01:35:48 2010 From: quinntex2000 at yahoo.com (quinntex2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:35:48 +0000 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Extra BMW Motorbikes Available Upon Request ForRecord Attempt Message-ID: <1467730970-1268271349-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1289467201-@bda454.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I think you should ride her bike in her honor! Georgina ------Original Message------ From: Corey Lyba Sender: mac-pac-l-bounces+quinntex2000=yahoo.com at jtan.com To: Todd Trumbore Cc: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Extra BMW Motorbikes Available Upon Request ForRecord Attempt Sent: Mar 10, 2010 8:22 PM Kimi will be out of town for the event and said that someone may ride her pink bike. They rider does not have to wear the chaps, but it will make for better pictures. _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From Braveirwin at aol.com Thu Mar 11 01:51:06 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:51:06 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Temp Plastic Panel Repair Terminology? Message-ID: <3eabb.3a61f386.38c9a68a@aol.com> In a message dated 3/10/2010 4:07:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mrmevans at gmail.com writes: I was looking for some images of such repairs but I'm not sure what to Google. ============================================= How about "knitted" or "laced" plastic repairs? Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100310/a7b9e937/attachment.html From wayne at 2zars.com Thu Mar 11 01:55:01 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:55:01 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but Happy Birthday Jack In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Congratulations on making it anther year. > >This year I look forward to getting in a few rides with you > >Have a Super Birthday Here here, Happy Birthday Jack! Eat the finest food, drink the finest beverage, enjoy the great sex. Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From wayne at 2zars.com Thu Mar 11 01:59:52 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:59:52 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MotoCzysz Puts the Sizzle in Electric Motorcycles In-Reply-To: <8CC8ECD81E0A93B-A140-54AB@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> References: <7fbead931003101347p2763b2e7q1c798549eb13106a@mail.gmail.com> <8CC8ECD81E0A93B-A140-54AB@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <0djgp5lvv58kni6111536hvm248422cblg@4ax.com> >Wayne- > >it is customary to NOT copy-and-paste copyrighted material, but to >instead just post the URL link to the original site, where the reader >can not only read the author's writing, but see who wrote the piece and >see what else the author intended to post with that material. > >It's a courtesy thing. I know I get plenty pissed when somebody copies >my written stuff onto their chat list or into their website. > >OK, now everybody can start on me about how I have a stick in my ass. >Let's ask the only PROFESSIONAL author on this list what he thinks. >Jack? Tom, Good point. I copy the text as a courtesy, so the reader doesn't need to visit the link if they don't want (or can't). This can come in handy at work where Big Poppa is watching your every click. It's actually a PITA to copy the text and I'd be happy to discontinue the process. As 'webmaster' for the AJS & Matchless Owners Club, I was pretty pissed off when I found that someone had stolen our photo gallery, lock, stock, and barrel, and put it on their website. Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From Braveirwin at aol.com Thu Mar 11 02:51:51 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:51:51 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Dealership, New Guinness Book Record Message-ID: <426b9.6ea506c8.38c9b4c7@aol.com> In a message dated 3/10/2010 10:47:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: Dan, Roddy is right ! If you have the time and don't mind the trip north, why don't you join in on the fun. The ECOmobile will be an added attraction. Our ride will not take more than one hour to complete. Bob Jones and staff will welcome your presence I can assure you ! Please give it some consideration. =================================================== In addition to that, I have a few extra tank roundels I can supply you with so you can stick them on the side of that rig. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100310/4ca642b4/attachment.html From ironbt01 at gmail.com Thu Mar 11 03:19:07 2010 From: ironbt01 at gmail.com (Greg Roberts) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:19:07 -0600 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda NT700 Review In-Reply-To: <4B97D40B.1030901@whatever2k.com> References: <4B965028.4060506@argolis.org> <4B97147F.9080008@whatever2k.com> <4B97A44A.6050901@argolis.org> <4B97D40B.1030901@whatever2k.com> Message-ID: <2a937ecc1003101919m7fecce8fx973083b30974e44b@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Brian Burdette wrote: > The target audience of the NT700V is exactly what BMW is abandoning ... people > who want a competent but slightly boring touring motorcycle that they can ride > for a very long time without having to fiddle with it. > The NT700V is targeted directly at me, it's the bike I've been waiting for > someone to build since BMW quit making the K75. The only question is if they'll > still be selling it when I give up on keeping my R1150GS on the road. > > -- > Brian Burdette Brian, Take this at face value. I consider Brian Curry the #1 fan of the K75, and for many years Bob Higdon was #2 ( at least IMO). Mr. Higdon is now out of the K-bike business, and as soon as it warms up enough for him to deliver his F650 to its new owner in VA he will be without a BMW for the first time in over 30 years. His new bike is the Honda NT700V. Requires minimal maintenance, and if it does break down there are multiple Honda dealerships in every state. BMW has several states with NO dealer, and a bunch more with just one dealer in the state. Mr. Higdon likes to ride and hates having to have a machine repaired. Enough said. Greg Roberts Wadley, AL From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Mar 11 11:37:16 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:37:16 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Temp Plastic Panel Repair Terminology? In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003101429j50e658b3t8178016e0cb7a36@mail.gmail.com> References: <58206.12.181.211.35.1268259591.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <4B988F9C.28280.159A91@localhost> > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Joe Dille wrote: > > > > Seriously, this is a legitimate repair technique. ?I used it all the time > > when I worked on aircraft. ?It was common for the aircraft to develop > > cracks from vibration. ?Very common on Piper left side windows. ?One fix > > was to drill a 1/8 hole at the end of the crack then a series of 3/32 > > holes along the crack on each side. ?Run a piece of thin (0.014") diameter > > safety wire (soft 302 stainless) in a shoe-lace pattern and tighten. > > > > Thanks Joe, > > I immediately found this image of a repair on a bike 0 > http://patineto.smugmug.com/photos/2080507-M.jpg > > This comes from a posting on ADV rider of a project "R80-G/S" on > Airhead Dirtbikes: > > http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56044&page=5 > Here is another: http://evolvedperformance.com/?p=50 Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 11 17:35:28 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:35:28 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Labrador Trip Initiation References: <9D8C9BC809F440079AD66BCE1066C908@home.robinson.org> <4B94FBE1.7080709@argolis.org> <73BE91E528284F7682B32E34D0713743@lenovo4903350b> Message-ID: <60201B524556440782784668CFD0FD74@dellfe483b726d> > Hi Doug, > > This is the rough outline we came up with: > Depart around 8/5 & return around 8/15. Head for Montreal, then Labrador > City where we'll catch the trans Labrador Highway to Goose Bay. The Trans > Lab has allegedly been extended from Goose Bay to Red Bay & Blanc Sablon > where we'll catch a ferry to St Barbre in northern Newfoundland. From > there > we ride down to southern Newfound.& catch another ferry to Nova Scotia, > ride > across New Brunswick & back home via an as yet undetermined route. > Ken Bruce The Port aux Basques to Sidney Ferry is excellent. Back in the day it was a six hour ride, now with the high speed ferries I believe it may be just over 2 hours. The Cabot Trail in Cape Breton Island is a MUST DO. That will be the highlight of the trip IMO. As you are well aware of.................top off your fuel tank every chance you get in Newfoundland and Labrador. Great trip. Todd Trumbore From rogers.george at gmail.com Thu Mar 11 17:44:14 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:44:14 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] record attempt and our website Message-ID: <1f13c3621003110944n7fe7696bt308ffedf0e5c4027@mail.gmail.com> If the powers that be would put a nice announcement or link on the front page of the mac-pac web site, I (we) could link to it from twitter, FB, mention it when we comment on someone's blog, and so on. Best wishes, Rogers George Newark, DE http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http://serenitytravelnewark.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Mar 11 18:22:03 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:22:03 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cheap Cell Phone In-Reply-To: <13391.12.181.211.35.1268252844.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <173050360.13833391268223671193.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <13391.12.181.211.35.1268252844.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <11677.12.181.211.35.1268331723.squirrel@12.181.211.35> >> >> >>>> Joey's 18th birthday approaches and we are thinking that if he is >>>> going >>>> off to college he probably will need a cell phone. This phone will be >>>> for >>>> making phone calls. He does not need any texting or "apps". (We are >>>> bad >>>> parents.) >> Joe, >> >> Man............Joey's 18 already, where does the time fly. Hey instead >> of >> the cell phone and all those electronic gadgets, it might be time to >> start >> looking for a nice Bavarian twin for him to tool around campus. That >> ought >> to bring on the gals...... >> >> Oddly enough he has shown no interest in the motorcycle. He has not even ridden on the back of the R90s. I have made the offer many times. I will work on his brother over the summer. However, he loves the SAAB. He finally realized it is a cool car. Born from jets and all. As far as getting around campus his main mode of transport will have laces and non-slip soles. Ride Safe, Joe From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Mar 11 18:32:00 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:32:00 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Labrador Trip Initiation In-Reply-To: <60201B524556440782784668CFD0FD74@dellfe483b726d> References: <9D8C9BC809F440079AD66BCE1066C908@home.robinson.org> <4B94FBE1.7080709@argolis.org> <73BE91E528284F7682B32E34D0713743@lenovo4903350b> <60201B524556440782784668CFD0FD74@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > > The Port aux Basques to Sidney ?Ferry is excellent. ?Back in the day it was > a six hour ride, now with the high speed ferries I believe it may be just > over 2 hours. > > The Cabot Trail in Cape Breton Island is a MUST DO. ?That will be the > highlight of the trip IMO. > As you are well aware of.................top off your fuel tank every chance > you get in Newfoundland and Labrador. > > Great trip. > > Todd Trumbore > > _______________________________________________ Todd, you are thinking of the Bar Harbor-Yarmouth Cat Ferry. It was much faster. (under 2 hours) Sidney-Port Aux Basque is still a big ocean going slow ferry, no faster than 4.5 hours, usually longer depending on head winds and currents. http://www.marine-atlantic.ca/en/schedule/crossing.shtml Day crossings: 4.5 - 6 hours Night crossings: 4.5 - 8 hours Be advised sleeping on the floor is considered "unruly".... though overnight crossing will reduce your downtime. http://www.marine-atlantic.ca/en/travelers/rock.shtml ---------------------------- Alas, the cat ferry service has ended..... but it was cool while it lasted. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2009/12/18/ns-yarmouth-ferry-ends.html http://www.mainebiz.biz/news45624.html "In December 2009, Bay Ferries announced that The Cat ferry service would end because it would not receive additional funding from the provincial government." www.catferry.com/ (non working URL) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFXKQt8zBUQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRnlvEAAJsk Erik Hoet From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Mar 11 18:37:19 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:37:19 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cheap Cell Phone In-Reply-To: <11677.12.181.211.35.1268331723.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <173050360.13833391268223671193.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <13391.12.181.211.35.1268252844.squirrel@12.181.211.35> <11677.12.181.211.35.1268331723.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Joe Dille wrote: > > ?As far as getting around campus his main mode of transport will have laces > ?and non-slip soles. > ?Joe > > _______________________________________________ Ah, the ubiquitous and affordable "Shoe Leather Express". When all else fails.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRkovnss7sg&feature=related EPH From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 11 18:51:10 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:51:10 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Extra BMW Motorbikes Available Upon Request For RecordAttempt References: <415679C91597495595B9ED40CA0385C4@dellfe483b726d> <6BADD15A532C4AD79A95A0980618FA5F@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: > Kimi will be out of town for the event and said that someone may ride > her pink bike. They rider does not have to wear the chaps, but it will > make for better pictures. Corey & Kimi, That's another very generous offer indeed ! Well folks, please inquire with Corey & Kimi to see if you qualify and will be the lucky one to ride "Tuff Cookie" in our " Ride For The Record, Ride For The Cure" parade on May 2nd. Kudos to you ! Todd Trumbore PS. Sorry to report, but Tom Byrum has already claimed the chaps.......as far as I know the bike is still available :) From chrisjac at ptd.net Thu Mar 11 19:31:54 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:31:54 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Labrador Trip Initiation In-Reply-To: References: <9D8C9BC809F440079AD66BCE1066C908@home.robinson.org> <4B94FBE1.7080709@argolis.org> <73BE91E528284F7682B32E34D0713743@lenovo4903350b> <60201B524556440782784668CFD0FD74@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <4B99452A.6040106@ptd.net> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > >> The Cabot Trail in Cape Breton Island is a MUST DO. That will be the >> highlight of the trip IMO. >> As you are well aware of.................top off your fuel tank every chance >> you get in Newfoundland and Labrador. >> Ah, the Cabot Trail and Nova Scotia. Personally, I dont think its the greatest roads or scenery. We selected the Cabot Trail because of Acuras commercial for the Legend model car in the early 1990s...the road just looked fantastic.....and we did some research to find "that road" and it was the Cabot Trail. We said "we gotta run that road". Well, in the end, it was a let down imo. I like the southern Applachians much better for riding. But I did spend my worst day ever on a motorcycle up in Nova Scotia. When we left from PA at the start of the trip, it was brutally hot in the NE. It was 93 degrees at 900 PM when we cross the border up by Calais, ME. A couple days later in Nova Scotia, it was 34 -36 degrees and rain.... all day, and no heated gear, no proper rain gear, etc. on an FJ1200. Ah., my stupidity in earlier years. Soaked to the bone and when I tried to dry some nylon ski gloves over a kerosene heater during a fuel stop, such resulted in the burning of the gloves requiring a duct tape fix. It was quite a show. Newspapers shoved down the pants and inside the coat for insulation. Man, it was one miserable day but the day had to be completed in order to catch the ferry that day otherwise we would have had to wait...the ferry didnt run every day back then. Ah, the memories. Thanks for the reminder. Chris Jaccarino From wayne at 2zars.com Thu Mar 11 19:42:32 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:42:32 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] record attempt and our website In-Reply-To: <1f13c3621003110944n7fe7696bt308ffedf0e5c4027@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f13c3621003110944n7fe7696bt308ffedf0e5c4027@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7fbead931003111142x1eed9c35ne8bb0d117905553f@mail.gmail.com> > If the powers that be would put a nice announcement or link on the > front page of the mac-pac web site, I (we) could link to it from > twitter, FB, mention it when we comment on someone's blog, and so on. > It was added to the *new* site on 9-March. http://mac-pac.2zars.com/ -- Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 11 19:56:18 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:56:18 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Labrador Trip Initiation References: <9D8C9BC809F440079AD66BCE1066C908@home.robinson.org> <4B94FBE1.7080709@argolis.org> <73BE91E528284F7682B32E34D0713743@lenovo4903350b> <60201B524556440782784668CFD0FD74@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <0ED94E1964C24B3E81F175CF28FEAD37@dellfe483b726d> Todd, you are thinking of the Bar Harbor-Yarmouth Cat Ferry. It was much faster. (under 2 hours) Sidney-Port Aux Basque is still a big ocean going slow ferry, no faster than 4.5 hours, usually longer depending on head winds and currents. Erik, Yes & No. I was thinking of the Sidney-Port AuxBasque and remember taking it when it was a good 6 hour ride. Then I remember the Cat Ferry at another later date, but yes you are right, it looks like it shaved maybe at best 2 hours off the time. Oh well, I remember it being a pleasant experience even though on one trip my motorbike slid right off the rear deck into the ocean during a bad storm Just kidding guys...........I wanted to see if anyone was paying attention. Todd Trumbore The Troublemaker From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 11 20:20:44 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:20:44 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Labrador Trip Initiation References: <9D8C9BC809F440079AD66BCE1066C908@home.robinson.org> <4B94FBE1.7080709@argolis.org> <73BE91E528284F7682B32E34D0713743@lenovo4903350b> <60201B524556440782784668CFD0FD74@dellfe483b726d> <4B99452A.6040106@ptd.net> Message-ID: > Ah, the Cabot Trail and Nova Scotia. Personally, I dont think its the > greatest roads or scenery. We selected the Cabot Trail because of Acuras > commercial for the Legend model car in the early 1990s...the road just > looked fantastic.....and we did some research to find "that road" and it > was the Cabot Trail. We said "we gotta run that road". Well, in the > end, it was a let down imo. I like the southern Applachians much better > for riding. Chris, Are you sure you weren't riding the Caboose ? I have nothing but good memories of The Cabot Trail. Riding right along the ocean shoreline one minute and the next minute hundreds of feet above the ocean riding on the edge of a cliff as the road follows the Islands edge. I love the people, their culture, the scenery, the moose............now the weather, that's another story. I have been pretty lucky every time, but others have not been so lucky. It can and will snow in this region in the middle of the summer, especially Newfoundland. I just can't wait to return.........the ride up along the coast of Maine is also a sight to behold. How long is it before I can retire ? Todd > Ah, the memories. Thanks for the reminder. Chris Jaccarino From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Mar 11 20:22:21 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:22:21 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] record attempt and our website References: <1f13c3621003110944n7fe7696bt308ffedf0e5c4027@mail.gmail.com> <7fbead931003111142x1eed9c35ne8bb0d117905553f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3B21326DC98048B0ABBAADE7E7A855CD@dellfe483b726d> >> If the powers that be would put a nice announcement or link on the >> front page of the mac-pac web site, I (we) could link to it from >> twitter, FB, mention it when we comment on someone's blog, and so on. >> > > It was added to the *new* site on 9-March. > > http://mac-pac.2zars.com/ > Wayne Woodruff Thank you again Wayne ! From mjcantwe at gmail.com Thu Mar 11 22:23:36 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:23:36 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rupert River hydro power going to NYC via HVdc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8bafeb801003111423t14c9eb22n6cbf1f95fb51c7c0@mail.gmail.com> > Routing it underwater down Lake Champlain and the Hudson is an attempt > to get around all the siting problems associated with aerial power > lines (not in MY backyard). Routing it under Lake Champlain and the Hudson river will also drum up opposition from the NMYB's. There are a lot of enviro groups that will not hesitate at the chance to oppose it as well. From motoedde2 at gmail.com Thu Mar 11 22:31:36 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:31:36 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rupert River hydro power going to NYC via HVdc In-Reply-To: <8bafeb801003111423t14c9eb22n6cbf1f95fb51c7c0@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bafeb801003111423t14c9eb22n6cbf1f95fb51c7c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Michael Cantwell wrote: >> Routing it underwater down Lake Champlain and the Hudson is an attempt >> to get around all the siting problems associated with aerial power >> lines (not in MY backyard). > > Routing it under Lake Champlain and the Hudson river will also drum up > opposition from the NMYB's. There are a lot of enviro groups that will > not hesitate at the chance to oppose it as well. Do you think these "enviro groups" will oppose it because they having nothing better to do or for some valid reason or for some other reason? -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Mar 11 22:40:08 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:40:08 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rupert River hydro power going to NYC via HVdc In-Reply-To: References: <8bafeb801003111423t14c9eb22n6cbf1f95fb51c7c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:31 PM, edde m wrote: > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Michael Cantwell wrote: >>> Routing it underwater down Lake Champlain and the Hudson is an attempt >>> to get around all the siting problems associated with aerial power >>> lines (not in MY backyard). >> >> Routing it under Lake Champlain and the Hudson river will also drum up >> opposition from the NMYB's. There are a lot of enviro groups that will >> not hesitate at the chance to oppose it as well. > > Do you think these "enviro groups" will oppose it because they having > nothing better to do or for some valid reason or for some other > reason? > > ___________________________________ Theproject description indicated they would bury the cable, so there would be some sediment disturbance. And in some areas of the Hudson there is a bad history (GE) of PCB's having been absorbed into the sediment. That could could stir up a whole lot of controversy. (no pun intended) http://www.epa.gov/hudson/ http://www.nywea.org/clearwaters/pre02fall/321070.html EPH From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Thu Mar 11 22:58:07 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:58:07 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Vintage Motorcycle Preferably Black Message-ID: <010d01cac16e$5114ee50$4001a8c0@FastHP> I have been contacted by a person looking to rent a couple vintage motorcycles preferably black. He needs them for a photo shoot advertizing Italian clothing. He has $2000 budgeted for the bike rental. He is fully insured and the bikes will be riden only about 10 miles. His company is X Productions. The shoot will be at the end of this month so he needs to find something pretty soon. Is anyone interested? I can give you the contact information Marge From tpcutter at aol.com Thu Mar 11 23:25:10 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:25:10 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rupert River hydro power going to NYC via HVdc In-Reply-To: <8bafeb801003111423t14c9eb22n6cbf1f95fb51c7c0@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bafeb801003111423t14c9eb22n6cbf1f95fb51c7c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC8F893A4220EE-1D4C-4915@webmail-d011.sysops.aol.com> <> Just imagine when Champy gets a hit of that electricity! --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From tpcutter at aol.com Thu Mar 11 23:32:04 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:32:04 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rupert River hydro power going to NYC via HVdc In-Reply-To: References: <8bafeb801003111423t14c9eb22n6cbf1f95fb51c7c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC8F8A311AA674-1D4C-4A8B@webmail-d011.sysops.aol.com> <> I agree that they will oppose it simply because they are in the business of opposing things and collecting other people;s money to do so. It has become an industry to be a "Green Protest Organization." It goes like this: Collect some signatures. Save a River, collect some funds, give yourself and a few friends a little salary from that money, get some more signatures, get some more money, give yourself and your friends some more salaries, then before you know it, you are collecting money to give yourself and your friends money without any clear cut reason for remaining in existence except to collect more money. That's a hard snowball to resist. After all, you'd have to go get a real job and actually do something besides spew bullshit, and all the good blog jobs are already taken. In summary, it is 100% certain that the "Green" coalitions will come out of the mulch beds and Volvo parking lots and oppose this one. Hell, it's "Big Energy" and "Big Government" all rolled up together. How can they resist. Damn, I forgot the words to "Kumbaya..." --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 00:58:58 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:58:58 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rupert River hydro power going to NYC via HVdc In-Reply-To: References: <8bafeb801003111423t14c9eb22n6cbf1f95fb51c7c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/11/10, Erik Hoet wrote: > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:31 PM, edde m wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Michael Cantwell wrote: > >> Routing it under Lake Champlain and the Hudson river will also drum up > >> opposition from the NMYB's. There are a lot of enviro groups that will > >> not hesitate at the chance to oppose it as well. > > > > Do you think these "enviro groups" will oppose it because they having > > nothing better to do or for some valid reason or for some other > > reason? They will be cause there is ALWAYS "another way to do it" until you try to do it that way and then there is a problem with that way, but that is the proposers problem, not theirs. > Theproject description indicated they would bury the cable, so there > would be some sediment disturbance. And in some areas of the Hudson > there is a bad history (GE) of PCB's having been absorbed into the > sediment. That could could stir up a whole lot of controversy. (no > pun intended) > > http://www.epa.gov/hudson/ > http://www.nywea.org/clearwaters/pre02fall/321070.html Considering that the currrent ongoing project to "remove the sediment"from being in place to out of the river and "some other place" is doing a majorly good job of disturbing the crap out of them, how would one tell? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 01:06:31 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:06:31 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Extra BMW Motorbikes Available Upon Request For RecordAttempt In-Reply-To: References: <415679C91597495595B9ED40CA0385C4@dellfe483b726d> <6BADD15A532C4AD79A95A0980618FA5F@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: On 3/11/10, Todd Trumbore wrote: > > PS. Sorry to report, but Tom Byrum has already claimed the chaps.......as > far as I know the bike is still available :) So Tom Byrum will be getting into Kimi's Chaps? Interesting.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From mjcantwe at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 01:14:02 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:14:02 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rupert River hydro power going to NYC via HVdc In-Reply-To: References: <8bafeb801003111423t14c9eb22n6cbf1f95fb51c7c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8bafeb801003111714r56926103i2bc6abf9d6394fba@mail.gmail.com> In regards to Lake Champlain (the NY side anyway) they will have to deal with groups like the Lake Champlain Basin Program, NYS Adirondack Park Agency, Residents? Committee to Protect the Adirondacks, Wildlife Conservation Society, Environmental Advocates' of New York and the list goes on... Then there is Vermont. Once they figure out that their little socialist utopia isn't going to benefit from such a project, they will probably have a couple of punches to throw as well. From mrmevans at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 04:00:55 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:00:55 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Playing in Traffic at Road Atlanta Message-ID: <8296f6de1003112000i61780615x56e0ebf1358fa80f@mail.gmail.com> Car, not bike, but a "Friend of the Marque" nonetheless... Friend of a friend piloting his '97 M3 though some track day laps - [mostly] German car event. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2eclLr7dLk SFW - 10 mins total - there is a link to a second half but I didn't watch. He has some obvious speed advantages versus others on the track but conversations with him are more about self criticisms concerning where he is leaving time on the table in key turns. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 05:10:34 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:10:34 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Women, how to have a man look you in the eyes Message-ID: Or mostly in the eyes. http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/5a52180b80/forehead-tittaes-w-marion-cotillard (Likely not WS.) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 05:21:05 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:21:05 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I bet the rings on this are "interesting" amoungst other engineering on it Message-ID: http://www.sportbikez.net/picture/324/honda_nr750 (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From tpcutter at aol.com Fri Mar 12 05:54:40 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:54:40 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I bet the rings on this are "interesting" amoungst other engineering on it In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC8FBFA3E64AB9-1020-AC0D@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> http://www.sportbikez.net/picture/324/honda_nr750(WS) Remember that Soichiro Honda started with a company that made piston rings, and he was an innovator in that arcane science, which designs were integral in the success and reliability of may of the high-RPM Honda designs. He personally designed and made the rings for the first prototype oval-piston NR500 motors. I'd think that installing those rings onto the pistons would be the tough part. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From tpcutter at aol.com Fri Mar 12 06:05:28 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:05:28 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Playing in Traffic at Road Atlanta In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003112000i61780615x56e0ebf1358fa80f@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003112000i61780615x56e0ebf1358fa80f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC8FC1266F924C-1020-AD78@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> <> Great track.I look forward to the WERA GNF at Road Atlanta every year. It;s liek the cherry we race for all year. I'm jealous that the car guys still get to use the old Turn 12, which I loved, if only because it really sorted out who had balls from who was totally nucking futs. That's the right turn at the bottom of the hill just past the Suzuki Bridge. The bike turn is to the left of that, then cuts hard 90 degree right at the bottom, so it's now a hard braking corner instead of a 'rail till it is ready to blow" turn. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From tpcutter at aol.com Fri Mar 12 06:08:02 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:08:02 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Another rich celebrity embraces BMW farkle Message-ID: <8CC8FC182208FB1-1020-AE03@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> http://www.theboot.com/2010/03/05/jewel-blog-4/?ncid=webmaildl2 --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From mjcantwe at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 07:59:54 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:59:54 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rupert River hydro power going to NYC via HVdc In-Reply-To: <8bafeb801003111714r56926103i2bc6abf9d6394fba@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bafeb801003111423t14c9eb22n6cbf1f95fb51c7c0@mail.gmail.com> <8bafeb801003111714r56926103i2bc6abf9d6394fba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8bafeb801003112359r34e30cb9x4be072a54fe3401c@mail.gmail.com> Then again, NY is so weighed down with ethics and budget problems that it might just take the money and look the other way. From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Mar 12 11:08:55 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:08:55 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Another rich celebrity embraces BMW farkle In-Reply-To: <8CC8FC182208FB1-1020-AE03@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC8FC182208FB1-1020-AE03@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: >http://www.theboot.com/2010/03/05/jewel-blog-4/?ncid=webmaildl2 > Rich and formerly local. She's from Doylestown. I would have never taken her for a bike rider, let alone a BMW. Thanks Tom. Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From Braveirwin at aol.com Fri Mar 12 11:27:15 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:27:15 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Another rich celebrity embraces BMW farkle Message-ID: <9da45.550b424d.38cb7f13@aol.com> In a message dated 3/12/2010 6:09:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, wayne at 2zars.com writes: Rich and formerly local. She's from Doylestown ===================================== She says her hometown is Homer, AK. When and which way did she switch? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100312/74810820/attachment.html From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Mar 12 11:31:02 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:31:02 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Another rich celebrity embraces BMW farkle In-Reply-To: <9da45.550b424d.38cb7f13@aol.com> References: <9da45.550b424d.38cb7f13@aol.com> Message-ID: <2e9kp55af77og8a42ptnmagpjp85n0pke8@4ax.com> > >Rich and formerly local. She's from Doylestown >===================================== > >She says her hometown is Homer, AK. When and which way did she switch? My bad, I was thinking about 'Pink'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_%28singer%29 Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From mrmevans at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 12:15:26 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:15:26 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Playing in Traffic at Road Atlanta In-Reply-To: <8CC8FC1266F924C-1020-AD78@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> References: <8296f6de1003112000i61780615x56e0ebf1358fa80f@mail.gmail.com> <8CC8FC1266F924C-1020-AD78@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003120415h26abf292p19191acd94d220a4@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Tom Cutter wrote: > > Great track.I look forward to the WERA GNF at Road Atlanta every year. It;s > liek the cherry we race for all year. ?I'm jealous that the car guys still > get to use the old Turn 12, which I loved, if only because it really sorted > out who had balls from who was totally nucking futs. That's the right turn > at the bottom of the hill just past the Suzuki Bridge. The bike turn is to > the left of that, then cuts hard 90 degree right at the bottom, so it's now > a hard braking corner instead of a 'rail till it is ready to blow" turn. > ...and Turn 12 is one of the spots Dave claimed he was losing time - said he knew there was the potential to get another few mph through that turn but he wasn't hitting it - suppose that means he was not in the nucking futz category. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From piechota at argolis.org Fri Mar 12 12:37:39 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:37:39 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Another rich celebrity embraces BMW farkle In-Reply-To: References: <8CC8FC182208FB1-1020-AE03@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B9A3593.1040108@argolis.org> Wayne Woodruff wrote: > >> http://www.theboot.com/2010/03/05/jewel-blog-4/?ncid=webmaildl2 >> > > > Rich and formerly local. She's from Doylestown. I would have never > taken her for a bike rider, let alone a BMW. Hey Todd, invite her to the world record ride. :) From tpcutter at aol.com Fri Mar 12 14:24:30 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:24:30 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Another rich celebrity embraces BMW farkle In-Reply-To: References: <8CC8FC182208FB1-1020-AE03@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CC9006DCC40D15-8FE4-DE13@webmail-d065.sysops.aol.com> <Rich and formerly local. She's from Doylestown. I would have nevertaken her for a bike rider, let alone a BMW. >> I think you've got your single-name pop stars mixed, Wayne. The singer "Pink" is from Doylestown, PA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_(singer) Jewel is from Homer, Alaska. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewel_(singer)#Early_years --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From tpcutter at aol.com Fri Mar 12 14:28:44 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:28:44 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Playing in Traffic at Road Atlanta In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003120415h26abf292p19191acd94d220a4@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003112000i61780615x56e0ebf1358fa80f@mail.gmail.com> <8CC8FC1266F924C-1020-AD78@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> <8296f6de1003120415h26abf292p19191acd94d220a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC9007745FC0C4-8FE4-DF2F@webmail-d065.sysops.aol.com> <<...and Turn 12 is one of the spots Dave claimed he was losing time -said he knew there was the potential to get another few mph throughthat turn but he wasn't hitting it - suppose that means he was not inthe nucking futz category.>> On a bike, you had to have the front wheel lofted under the bridge, full throttle 3rd gear, as the wheel set down 1/3 way down the hill, immediately throw it full right lean until the knee sticks into the pavement, stay on the gas through 4th and 5th, get 6th at the end of the straight before downshifting three gears up through T1. If you got it right, it felt incredible. If you got it wrong., they'd wash you off the massive concrete wall outside T12. That's why they changed it. Lots of racers were afraid to die there. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From rsorens at comcast.net Fri Mar 12 14:57:18 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:57:18 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Another rich celebrity embraces BMW farkle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>http://www.theboot.com/2010/03/05/jewel-blog-4/?ncid=webmaildl2 >Rich and formerly local. She's from Doylestown. I think you are confusing her with 'Pink'....she's a local girl. Have met her parents, they used to run a UPS store down the corner from us. Nice folks - apparently semi-regulars at Monkey'ville Cycle Center....they ride a Goldwing. Rick From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 15:25:06 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:25:06 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Have you ever drunk an "unregistered" beer???? Message-ID: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100312/D9ED1S3G0.html (WS) Brew-haha frothing over after Philly bar raids Mar 12, 5:57 AM (ET) By PATRICK WALTERS PHILADELPHIA (AP) - A real brew-haha has beer lovers in the City of Brotherly love frothing over with anger. To one side, the suds uproar is borne out of typographical errors, hard-to-spell beer names and archaic, Prohibition-era liquor laws. To the other, it's a simple matter of making sure bars and beer manufacturers aren't scamming the system. It all came to a head after an anonymous complaint that a Philadelphia bar was selling beer that had not been properly licensed with the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board, an agency created after Prohibition in 1933 to regulate the sale of alcohol. That tip led to raids last week at three upscale bars, where police confiscated three quarter-kegs and 317 bottles of beer that were not believed to have been properly registered with the state. Raids at Memphis Taproom in Philadelphia's Kensington section, Local 44 in west Philadelphia and Resurrection Ale House downtown caught the couple who run them by surprise. "I feel like there are a lot of typographical errors that caused this," said Leigh Maida, who received calls from staff around midday March 4. "The laws were really developed before there were so many kinds of beers." Under Pennsylvania liquor law, manufacturers of malt or brewed beverages must pay a $75 annual fee to register each brand. About 2,800 beers are now registered in the state; manufacturers submit applications to the liquor board, showing the agreement they have with the wholesaler. In the recent raids, a tipster contacted the state, saying the bar owners were selling unregistered beers, said Sgt. William La Torre, commanding officer of the Philadelphia office of the Bureau of Liquor Control Enforcement, which enforces the liquor laws. Statewide, police say there are typically fewer than 10 complaints a year about unregistered beer. Maida and her husband, Brendan Hartranft, don't know who filed the complaint. They believe the problem largely results from archaic liquor laws and misunderstandings about formidable beer names that often get abbreviated. The liquor code, they say, is no match for beers with names like Dogfish Head Raison d'etre and a dark ale called 't smisje BBBorgoundier. The rigid code also isn't able to account for when they abbreviate Allagash White Beer to "Allagash Wit" on their menus. At one bar, Maida had a beer listed as "de dolle Oebier gran reserva;" the beer itself was "de dolle oerbier," but the police had it spelled as "de rolle oebier," she said. "The laws were really developed before there were so many kinds of beers," she said. Pennsylvania has some of the strictest liquor laws in the country, funneling the sale of wine and spirits through state-run liquor stores and regulating the sale of beer mostly through the state's approximately 1,100 licensed distributorships. ============ Yes, if you were going to drink in PA, they were going to make it a PITA to do it. It would be "legal" but difficult. Or seemingly so. ============ Distributors can only sell kegs and cases of beer; bars, restaurants and delis, which must apply for liquor licenses from the state Liquor Control Board, can sell six-packs. In recent years, a small number of grocery stores and markets also have gotten licenses to sell beer. Maj. John Lutz, director of the Bureau of Liquor Control Enforcement, said police are working with the board to try to figure out which of the recently seized beers are registered. So far, 72 of the 317 bottles seized were being returned after police determined they were registered, Lutz said. No charges have been filed in the ongoing investigation. "We're trying to sort out the whole labeling issue," Lutz said. "Anything that was just a spelling mistake, hopefully we've caught." As part of their follow-up to last week's raids, police seized about 12 cases of beer from a distributor in northeastern Philadelphia, he said. =========== So, we seize your stuff, and that might kill your business but that is YOUR problem, not ours. We shoot first and then figure out the details later.... =========== But with the growing number of breweries nationwide, enforcement of the state's liquor laws has become more challenging. "When it comes to the registration of the beer, the burden is really on the manufacturer to register the beer," Lutz said. "With the number of microbreweries that have sprung up around the country, it has become very difficult." Liquor code violations are heard by administrative law judges. The Liquor Control Board, for its part, said it's simply a matter of following the laws passed by the Legislature. ============ "We're just following orders".... I also feel pretty sure, that they have no clue how similar it is. They are just smug that they are "enforcing the law" and "doing their job." ============ Nevertheless, the hubbub has many in the city's beer community crying foul. Keith Wallace, owner of the Philly Beer School, which offers classes on beer, said the raids show how unrealistic the archaic system is. The Liquor Control Board can too easily be used as a weapon by people who have a gripe with a bar or restaurant, he said. "It's impossible not to be in violation of PLCB laws some way because they are so onerous," he said. "Nobody follows the law 100 percent." ============= Some might say intentionally so, so that there is always a reason that "the issue has to be addressed NOW." I am sure that the 2000+ healthcare monstrosity is MUCH BETTER WRITTEN and will have no similar problems. Pig F'rs all of them. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From mrmevans at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 17:16:53 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:16:53 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Obama Visited in the Night Message-ID: <8296f6de1003120916t56bb93a2v42127ea4f38ab4af@mail.gmail.com> Brian sent along a link to the Funny or Die web site, which after watching that video led me to this gem... http://FunnyOrDie.com/m/3oem SFW assuming it is safe for you to watch movies at work. Moral of the story - despite all the polit bitchin' on this list and elsewhere, nobody in office is going to do the right thing - that would cost them their jobs. So let's hope for the rain to wash away all the road grit and let's all join Jack on his slider ride next Saturday. Anyone want to babysit my boys so I can go? -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From crocov502 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 12 18:00:41 2010 From: crocov502 at yahoo.com (Arla Hile) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:00:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Another rich celebrity embraces BMW farkle In-Reply-To: <8CC8FC182208FB1-1020-AE03@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC8FC182208FB1-1020-AE03@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <604098.56538.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- From: Tom Cutter http://www.theboot.com/2010/03/05/jewel-blog-4/?ncid=webmaildl2 - Hey, good for her. Although "we wanted to enjoy life before we got too old"??? What is she, maybe 22? Gads. From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Mar 12 18:44:10 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:44:10 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Another rich celebrity embraces BMW farkle References: <8CC8FC182208FB1-1020-AE03@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> <4B9A3593.1040108@argolis.org> Message-ID: <919CD92223684302A328D70D2D8488B5@dellfe483b726d> > Hey Todd, invite her to the world record ride. :) Jewell and husband Ty both riding GS model motorbikes Matt, I enjoy her music and believe me considering what she and her husband are riding, I would invite them if I thought there was a chance that they would be interested. What a nice added attraction that would be. Todd From doehler at verizon.net Fri Mar 12 18:57:12 2010 From: doehler at verizon.net (Dave Oehler) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:57:12 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cheap Cell Phone References: <173050360.13833391268223671193.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <13391.12.181.211.35.1268252844.squirrel@12.181.211.35> <11677.12.181.211.35.1268331723.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Dille" To: Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cheap Cell Phone snip > However, he loves the SAAB. He finally realized it is a cool car. Born > from jets and all. > snip -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SAAB! someone wake the boy up. Does he not know that stands for "Sure Aint A Beemer" !! As far as the cell phone goes I thank god they were not around and cameras were expensive when I was in school.... Dave From tpcutter at aol.com Fri Mar 12 19:06:43 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:06:43 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Have you ever drunk an "unregistered" beer???? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC902E49FC2A68-59A0-1DA0@webmail-m037.sysops.aol.com> Brian rants and raves, follows with: "Pig F'rs all of them." Jeez, man! Lighten up! First you almost invoked Godwin's Law, then you equate the archaic LCB laws to the current healthcare debacle. About all you forgot to do was blame godless queers for Commie-nism. I think your tighty-whiteys might be a little too tight today. "Get off my lawn!" --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Mar 12 19:12:19 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:12:19 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cheap Cell Phone In-Reply-To: References: <173050360.13833391268223671193.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <13391.12.181.211.35.1268252844.squirrel@12.181.211.35> <11677.12.181.211.35.1268331723.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <34086.12.181.211.35.1268421139.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Dille" > > snip >> However, he loves the SAAB. He finally realized it is a cool car. Born >> from jets and all. >> snip > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > SAAB! someone wake the boy up. Does he not know that stands for "Sure > Aint > A Beemer" !! As far as the cell phone goes I thank god they were not > around > and cameras were expensive when I was in school.... > When I bought the SAAB my dream wagon was the BMW 540i wagon. That would have been cool. Back then it was $50 large. Right now I want to get 10 more years out of this one. Ride Safe, Joe From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 19:18:19 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:18:19 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Have you ever drunk an "unregistered" beer???? In-Reply-To: <8CC902E49FC2A68-59A0-1DA0@webmail-m037.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC902E49FC2A68-59A0-1DA0@webmail-m037.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 3/12/10, Tom Cutter wrote: > "Get off my lawn!" Kid. Don't talk to your elders like that! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA?? | Brian Curry??????????|??????Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER"????????|??????Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts?? |??????Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA?? |??????http://www.nsevideos.com From tpcutter at aol.com Fri Mar 12 19:25:11 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:25:11 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Another rich celebrity embraces BMW farkle In-Reply-To: <604098.56538.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <8CC8FC182208FB1-1020-AE03@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> <604098.56538.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CC9030DE73ACF4-7ED0-4A5F@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> <http://www.theboot.com/2010/03/05/jewel-blog-4/?ncid=we bmaildl2- "Hey, good for her. Although "we wanted to enjoy life before we got too old"??? What is she, maybe 22? Gads. " Sorry to bust your bubble, Arla, but Jewel is 35 now.... Almost over the hill. Of course she could still attend "Camp Gears" ar a BMW Rally. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From ephoet at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 19:25:54 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:25:54 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Have you ever drunk an "unregistered" beer???? In-Reply-To: References: <8CC902E49FC2A68-59A0-1DA0@webmail-m037.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > On 3/12/10, Tom Cutter wrote: > >> ?"Get off my lawn!" > > Kid. ?Don't talk to your elders like that! > -------------------------------------------------------------------- I dunno, Tom might have done well as "Walt Kowalski" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NelBNtNm8l0 From kgbruce at verizon.net Fri Mar 12 23:52:14 2010 From: kgbruce at verizon.net (Ken Bruce) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:52:14 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Labrador Trip Initiation References: <9D8C9BC809F440079AD66BCE1066C908@home.robinson.org> <4B94FBE1.7080709@argolis.org> <73BE91E528284F7682B32E34D0713743@lenovo4903350b> <60201B524556440782784668CFD0FD74@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <13665FD3F98F440F97370469598BCA7D@lenovo4903350b> Todd, you are thinking of the Bar Harbor-Yarmouth Cat Ferry. It was much faster. (under 2 hours) Sidney-Port Aux Basque is still a big ocean going slow ferry, no faster than 4.5 hours, usually longer depending on head winds and currents. http://www.marine-atlantic.ca/en/schedule/crossing.shtml Day crossings: 4.5 - 6 hours Night crossings: 4.5 - 8 hours Be advised sleeping on the floor is considered "unruly".... though overnight crossing will reduce your downtime. http://www.marine-atlantic.ca/en/travelers/rock.shtml ---------------------------- Alas, the cat ferry service has ended..... but it was cool while it lasted. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2009/12/18/ns-yarmouth-ferry-ends.html http://www.mainebiz.biz/news45624.html "In December 2009, Bay Ferries announced that The Cat ferry service would end because it would not receive additional funding from the provincial government." www.catferry.com/ (non working URL) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFXKQt8zBUQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRnlvEAAJsk Erik Hoet ------------------------------------------------------- Great info and references Gents! I took the Portland/Yarmouth CAT in 2007 at what I thought to be an exorbitant cost of approx. $350.00 one way for 2 people and 1 bike. Even worse, there was only one place to go outdoors while crossing and that was aft where you were overcome by the diesel fumes (don't get me wrong, I love diesels, I just don't like to breath it). I much prefer the slower traditional ferry which costs less but more importantly allows you to ride on the bow or top deck where you can take in the weather and view. What I just remembered is what I missed on my 07 tour of Nova Scotia / Cape Breton Island. I wanted to ride the road to Meat Cove but a bald rear tire and a steady rain dissuaded me. Meat Cove is one of those spots I must get to and I hear its a great place to camp. Anyone been there? Ken Bruce From jaburke4 at verizon.net Sat Mar 13 02:15:21 2010 From: jaburke4 at verizon.net (John Burkhauser) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:15:21 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Sort of, involves eating Message-ID: <54A4FA0C-A8E2-407F-A102-AF2EDF1554DE@verizon.net> http://www.fekids.com/img/kln/flash/DontGrossOutTheWorld.swf John Burkhauser jaburke4 at verizon.net From jasiii at earthlink.net Sat Mar 13 02:45:38 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:45:38 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Sort of, involves eating In-Reply-To: <54A4FA0C-A8E2-407F-A102-AF2EDF1554DE@verizon.net> Message-ID: > http://www.fekids.com/img/kln/flash/DontGrossOutTheWorld.swf > > John Burkhauser > jaburke4 at verizon.net > > 9 out of 11 Jim From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 02:47:20 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:47:20 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Census observations Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsDhkPym01k (WS) Considering their record on data security, it might take a US$5Million bond to get me to surrender more than a head count. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 02:57:10 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:57:10 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: 10 GREAT LOW Flybys Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dr2ZB36p9Y (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 03:07:48 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:07:48 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Friday night mind twister "I'm my own my own grandpa" Message-ID: I like the facial visuals in this one and started me "down the maze" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7x1ETPkZsk This one had me thinking of Rolly. This one has clearer sound which kinda helps you "work through it." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXU-ZdmzNmo This has diagrams which kinda help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlJH81dSiw All WS. They are definitely a test of just how well you know the "English Language" and familial relationships. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 03:09:25 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:09:25 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: These urinals might be good enough to even pay to take a leak in them. Message-ID: http://www.clarkmade.com/urinals.html (WS) VERY artistic. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 02:58:53 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:58:53 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Sun 1, Comet 0 Message-ID: Sometimes close is just too much: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/03/little-comet-meet-big-sun (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From mrmevans at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 03:13:15 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:13:15 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The Corporate Battleground Message-ID: <8296f6de1003121913y4793fa57kd4c02226a7e26019@mail.gmail.com> This is why I don't work in an office anymore--too many hazards http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVKnF26qFFM SFW -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From corey.lyba at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 03:37:25 2010 From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:37:25 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Extra BMW Motorbikes Available Upon Request For RecordAttempt In-Reply-To: References: <415679C91597495595B9ED40CA0385C4@dellfe483b726d> <6BADD15A532C4AD79A95A0980618FA5F@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: Scratch the offer, Kimi will be riding in the event. Sorry for that. From bmwdick at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 23:13:56 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:13:56 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Obama Visited in the Night In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003120916t56bb93a2v42127ea4f38ab4af@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003120916t56bb93a2v42127ea4f38ab4af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Michael Evans wrote: > > (SNIP) > > So let's hope for the rain to wash away all the road grit and let's > all join Jack on his slider ride next Saturday. Anyone want to babysit > my boys so I can go? > > If they take after their Dad, I'd suggest a call to Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County -- BMW-Dick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Eastern Standard Time, mrmevans at gmail.com writes: Anyone want to babysit my boys so I can go? ====================================== One can sit on the back of my bike. Any other offers? Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100313/ba4db9bc/attachment.html From jlburt at jlburt.com Sat Mar 13 08:30:40 2010 From: jlburt at jlburt.com (Jon Burt) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:30:40 -0600 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Sort of. (NOT WS) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201003130831.o2D8VPfh002935@dpmailrp05.doteasy.com> (Use of the F word, for those that prefer to avoid such) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQjM5qsVryw&NR=1 Jon Chicago From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Mar 13 12:13:38 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:13:38 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Sort of, involves eating In-Reply-To: References: <54A4FA0C-A8E2-407F-A102-AF2EDF1554DE@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4B9B3B22.5101.A839EB6@localhost> > > http://www.fekids.com/img/kln/flash/DontGrossOutTheWorld.swf > > > > John Burkhauser > > jaburke4 at verizon.net > > > > > 9 out of 11 6 out of 11. I am a real slob :-( Eat Safe, Joe > > Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Sat Mar 13 12:51:42 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:51:42 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Labrador Trip Initiation References: <9D8C9BC809F440079AD66BCE1066C908@home.robinson.org> <4B94FBE1.7080709@argolis.org> <73BE91E528284F7682B32E34D0713743@lenovo4903350b> <60201B524556440782784668CFD0FD74@dellfe483b726d> <13665FD3F98F440F97370469598BCA7D@lenovo4903350b> Message-ID: <2AB11C1467CC4311A886F4CDE333A3D2@home.robinson.org> ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Bruce What I just remembered is what I missed on my 07 tour of Nova Scotia / Cape Breton Island. I wanted to ride the road to Meat Cove but a bald rear tire and a steady rain dissuaded me. Meat Cove is one of those spots I must get to and I hear its a great place to camp. Anyone been there? _______________________________________________ Yes was there on 2 occasions. The riding in the area is great and views are spectacular, but never camped. Jim Robinson West Chester PA 1995 BMW R1100GS Adventure "Little Enos" 1996 BMW K1100RS "The Red Baron" 2002 Ducati ST4S "Corbin Special" 2004 BMW R1150GS Adventure "Big Enos" From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Mar 13 14:31:26 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:31:26 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Spline Lube Message-ID: <4B9B5B6E.3264.B01C98A@localhost> I changed the clutch on the SAAB last weekend. Here are some pictures of the event. http://home.jtan.com/~joe/saab/clutch.htm Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 14:59:23 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:59:23 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Spline Lube In-Reply-To: <4B9B5B6E.3264.B01C98A@localhost> References: <4B9B5B6E.3264.B01C98A@localhost> Message-ID: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Joe Dille wrote: > I changed the clutch on the SAAB last weekend. ?Here are some > pictures of the event. > http://home.jtan.com/~joe/saab/clutch.htm > Joe, fantastic job, beautifully documented with the photos and tips. You solved many intimidating problems. It's great you have a very competent son for the two-man jobs. Your care of vehicles puts me to shame. The oil you take out of your engine looks cleaner than what I put in to mine. You had rare fine weather for this job last weekend, right between the snowy freeze and heavy rains. Good planning here too. Congratulations on your like-new Saab. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From jasiii at earthlink.net Sat Mar 13 15:04:47 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:04:47 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Spline Lube Message-ID: <25225674.1268492687951.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > >I changed the clutch on the SAAB last weekend. Here are some >pictures of the event. >http://home.jtan.com/~joe/saab/clutch.htm > >Ride Safe, > >Joe Nice job.. I have not done a saab clutch but that does not look like a quick or easy job. Jim James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From piechota at argolis.org Sat Mar 13 15:17:59 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:17:59 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo In-Reply-To: <0267F2B1E4954204BCF49BEDCB291AF6@Tekki> References: <0267F2B1E4954204BCF49BEDCB291AF6@Tekki> Message-ID: <4B9BACA7.7040804@argolis.org> Rick Sorensen wrote: > GEEZ GUYS! Gimme a friggin' break here! My brother-in-law did the design > GRATUS and it was the only wrench he could find in hs racks and racks of > graphic he could find....and it what he does for a living....does it REALLY > matter that much? Do we need to have elections and meetings or something? Rick, I don't think anyone meant to impune the logo specifically, just that some may like an alternate. :) From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Sat Mar 13 15:31:05 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:31:05 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Spline Lube References: <4B9B5B6E.3264.B01C98A@localhost> Message-ID: <40C0F19822184F39AE673F135BD7F73F@home.robinson.org> ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Dille I changed the clutch on the SAAB last weekend. Here are some pictures of the event. http://home.jtan.com/~joe/saab/clutch.htm --------------------------------- Watching a master mechanic at work is truely inspiring and amazing. Great photos of the process too. Makes me yearn for an episode of "Tool Time"! You know I think some of us would gladly be your monkey wrench bitch or second pair of hands anytime just to pickup and learn 1 or 2 cool new things! :-) By the way how do you keep the place so clean while your tearing all that stuff out? Jim Robinson West Chester PA From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 15:54:55 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:54:55 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Good thing that Dick does not have a Toyota Message-ID: Boulders and homes everywhere would be quivering in the ground. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/OpEd-Contributor/I-am-not-afraid-of-my-Toyota-Prius-87361597.html (WS) I do wonder now what the statistics are for number of deaths based on the averaage number of miles it will take owners to get to the dealers. I kinda wonder how many people are killed in Toyota's every day period. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From Ducdude at verizon.net Sat Mar 13 16:09:34 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:09:34 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Spline Lube References: <4B9B5B6E.3264.B01C98A@localhost> Message-ID: <32A472B06DEF4EBBAD05A38519C10964@heilveil5e3fdd> I just looked at this to see a few bits of the new garage... Very Nice Joe very nice..:-) Duc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Dille" To: "mAC-PAC" Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 9:31 AM Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Spline Lube >I changed the clutch on the SAAB last weekend. Here are some > pictures of the event. > http://home.jtan.com/~joe/saab/clutch.htm > > Ride Safe, > > Joe > --------------------------------- > Joe Dille > Telford, PA USA > joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us > What happens on Earth, stays on Earth > http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From rsorens at comcast.net Sat Mar 13 16:22:53 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:22:53 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo In-Reply-To: <4B9BACA7.7040804@argolis.org> Message-ID: <16A08F5A396E449C862656ADBE5A553D@Tekki> >Rick, I don't think anyone meant to impune the logo specifically, just that some may like an alternate Matt; "impune the logo"???? I really don't take it that seriously, I just sensed a committee forming to evaluate new logos and then a vote to pick a new one. I think it's funny! We are the antithesis of a BMW MOA/RA club; we're the odd balls; I just don't take the whole 'club' structure seriously and find it humorous for us to be even part of that 'scene'. It's what makes us so unusual and fun. If folks wanna play with a logo, have at it. Rick From Braveirwin at aol.com Sat Mar 13 16:38:46 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:38:46 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Sort of. (NOT WS) Message-ID: <25b6d.4c8c277b.38cd1996@aol.com> In a message dated 3/13/2010 3:31:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jlburt at jlburt.com writes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQjM5qsVryw&NR=1 ============================================================ That was really funny, Jon. You obviously posted that in light of our ongoing affection and teasing of Jim Robinson. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100313/4b29be9a/attachment.html From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Mar 13 16:39:23 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:39:23 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Spline Lube In-Reply-To: <40C0F19822184F39AE673F135BD7F73F@home.robinson.org> Message-ID: <4B9B796B.30224.6A26C7@localhost> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joe Dille > > I changed the clutch on the SAAB last weekend. Here are some > pictures of the event. > http://home.jtan.com/~joe/saab/clutch.htm > --------------------------------- > > Watching a master mechanic at work is truely inspiring and amazing. Great > photos of the process too. Makes me yearn for an episode of "Tool Time"! You > know I think some of us would gladly be your monkey wrench bitch or second > pair of hands anytime just to pickup and learn 1 or 2 cool new things! :-) > Thanks for the kind words. > By the way how do you keep the place so clean while your tearing all that > stuff out? This is my new 2-car garage. It is a couple feet bigger in both directions than what is typical. It is warm, well lit, dry and wind free. I spent 35 years doing stuff like this in driveways, parking lots and tiny little garages. I rebuilt my R75/5 in an efficiency apartment. I am truly grateful to have a nice place to work. Ride Safe, Joe > > Jim Robinson > West Chester PA > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 17:13:53 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:13:53 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The "Flame licker" engine Message-ID: No, this IS worksafe. Even though it sucks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5m1kba38YM (WS) and cool/hot -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 17:40:36 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:40:36 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nice day for a ride... Message-ID: ....so I'm going to ride out to visit a friend in mid-state, about 3 hrs west of here. Leaving in about an hour, should be back just before midnight. The temps are mild. The wind will be exciting but the rain won't get through my one-piece rainsuit. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Sat Mar 13 17:41:15 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:41:15 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Sort of. (NOT WS) References: <25b6d.4c8c277b.38cd1996@aol.com> Message-ID: <53B76BEC1CDB49EA928906033B1292D0@home.robinson.org> ----- Original Message ----- From: Roddy That was really funny, Jon. You obviously posted that in light of our ongoing affection and teasing of Jim Robinson. ---------------------------- You get a brand new GPS. Your not paying attention to the road as you should and you hit a barrier head on at the dead end of a road in Fulton MS doing 40-45mph. Why? Cause your GPS told you there was a bridge there and you were paying too much attention to that blasted GPS you just got. You somehow survive without a scratch. You think they would call you damn lucky with nine lives or even crash test dummy at the least. No! Instead a picture surfaces later of you feeding a friendly goat at Jill & Howards Tech Weekend retreat in Canton TX, and they label you Goat F'er forever! You are all such heartless bastards! P.S. I really do miss you Louellen! You were so comforting in my time of need. :-) Jim From bmwdick at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 13:11:35 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:11:35 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Census observations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsDhkPym01k > (WS) > > Considering their record on data security, it might take a US$5Million > bond to get me to surrender more than a head count. > > Brian: The Supreme Court has granted Congress unlimited rights to ask questions in the Census that seem to have little to do with "enumerating" the electorate. It ain't pretty, but it's the law. http://2010.census.gov/2010census/why/constitutional.php Here are the ten questions and the Census Bureau's explanation of why they want the information: http://2010.census.gov/2010census/text/text-form.php Although there are rumors floating around the Internet about them asking about income and the number of flush toilets in your house, apparently there are just ten questions (Source US Census Bureau web site) relating to name, age, sex,and race of the "inhabitants." -- BMW-Dick A 20-year-old American Samoan for 2010 Census purposes From bmwdick at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 13:27:11 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:27:11 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Sort of. (NOT WS) In-Reply-To: <201003130831.o2D8VPfh002935@dpmailrp05.doteasy.com> References: <201003130831.o2D8VPfh002935@dpmailrp05.doteasy.com> Message-ID: McCartney should stick to music. -- BMW-Dick From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Sat Mar 13 17:45:11 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:45:11 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The "Flame licker" engine References: Message-ID: Better yet check out the Boxer configuration flame gulper http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyrWRBoC-2c&feature=related Jim Robinson West Chester PA From rsorens at comcast.net Sat Mar 13 18:31:13 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:31:13 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The "Flame licker" engine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <08E64CD5B5A245DA8E538DEFDCB27B31@Tekki> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyrWRBoC-2c&feature=related OK, I saw this one and the other one......what's the point? They're useless little engines, they don't perform any useful work (OK, it drives a little car, but I said 'useful'..... Rick From Braveirwin at aol.com Sat Mar 13 18:36:39 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:36:39 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Spline Lube Message-ID: <2c71e.3e726024.38cd3537@aol.com> In a message dated 3/13/2010 9:32:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us writes: I changed the clutch on the SAAB last weekend. Here are some pictures of the event. http://home.jtan.com/~joe/saab/clutch.htm =========================================================== Wow! Joe. that was a great job and an admirable accomplishment. Thanks for recording it all and sharing it with us. Whenever I do a job like that, I check with the service dept of the dealership to find out their flat rate hours allotted for the job I'm doing. I figure if I can do it in twice the time they think it should take, I've done real well. No matter how long it took you, you know you did a more careful job than someone who is under a time constraint to make money. And you know you did things that they would never do, like wire brushing, painting, replacing exhaust system, spline lube, et cetera. When I was a teenager, still in high school, my second car was a 1961 Citroen ID 19. Front wheel drive, four speed stick shift with automatic clutch. It had a hydraulic system that had both high and low pressure pumps and a reservoir that held about a gallon and a half of brake fluid to run it. That system operated the brakes, power steering, automatic clutch, and suspension system with self leveling (if you hit the brakes hard or cornered hard, the car would level itself), and of course the famous aspect that let you raise and lower the height of the car to drive over high snow or otherwise rough roads (and was also the automatic jack to let you change tires, with one lug nut, without manually jacking the car up. It was way before its time and I loved driving it. Fortunately, the engine was not transverse and the transmission was in front of the engine. So when I had to replace the clutch, I just took the trans off the front and was at the clutch. I do remember having to make some of my own tools like you did (I've never seen bolt heads like those before or since). I also remember the car parts being spread out over a whole section of the barn floor. Thanks for the inspiring story of your successful job. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100313/84e75997/attachment.html From Braveirwin at aol.com Sat Mar 13 18:44:54 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:44:54 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Spline Lube Message-ID: <2ce4e.335dba07.38cd3726@aol.com> In a message dated 3/13/2010 11:40:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us writes: This is my new 2-car garage. It is a couple feet bigger in both directions than what is typical. It is warm, well lit, dry and wind free. I spent 35 years doing stuff like this in driveways, parking lots and tiny little garages. I rebuilt my R75/5 in an efficiency apartment. I am truly grateful to have a nice place to work. ================================================= Yes. BTDT. Barn floors with a trouble light in the dead of winter with no heat have been my MO. Someday, oh maybe someday..... Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100313/0c5c04d4/attachment.html From Braveirwin at aol.com Sat Mar 13 18:49:08 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:49:08 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nice day for a ride... Message-ID: <2d1d6.7c0697c4.38cd3824@aol.com> In a message dated 3/13/2010 12:40:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com writes: ....so I'm going to ride out to visit a friend in mid-state, about 3 hrs west of here. ============================================ Vaya con Dios, Doug. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100313/570bb0d8/attachment.html From 321design at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 19:06:00 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:06:00 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The "Flame licker" engine In-Reply-To: <08E64CD5B5A245DA8E538DEFDCB27B31@Tekki> References: <08E64CD5B5A245DA8E538DEFDCB27B31@Tekki> Message-ID: <74d2fbe11003131106j5a81c4e8ie6639f516201e63c@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Rick Sorensen wrote: >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyrWRBoC-2c&feature=related > > OK, I saw this one and the other one......what's the point? They're useless > little engines, they don't perform any useful work (OK, it drives a little > car, but I said 'useful'..... For me it's the beauty of the machine. It doesn't necessarily have to do anything "useful". It is the same reason I have a motorcycle; because of the machine aesthetic. I prefer my bikes to be naked so I can see all of those amazingly engineered components working together. A car is more useful for transportation but my bike gives me a kick on so many levels not the least of which is seeing the engine, suspension, wires, etc. Go to the Threshermans Reunion http://www.roughandtumble.org/reunions/2010/2010_promo.asp and then tell me you don't get a visceral thrill from seeing a belching hit and miss engine firing. We surround ourselves with objects that aren't useful but somehow make us feel good. It's one of the basics of good product design. We may not understand or be able to articulate why we like it, but we are drawn to it. -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From t79eco at verizon.net Sat Mar 13 20:02:22 2010 From: t79eco at verizon.net (t79eco at verizon.net) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:02:22 -0600 (CST) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rolly's concert Message-ID: <1477224192.247727.1268510542965.JavaMail.root@vms182.mailsrvcs.net> ?Hi All, ???? Last night, Kathy and I thoroughly enjoyed the playing of Rolly and Marcy at the Mom and Pop coffeehouse. We saw several other Pacr's there also. The musical rapport between the two performers was wonderful. Question for Rolly, What ever happened to Travis, the fiddle player who performed with you last year and was headed to Nashville to display his most impressive improvisational skills? Eco Tom From Braveirwin at aol.com Sat Mar 13 20:27:00 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:27:00 EST Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rolly's concert Message-ID: <48c2e.16c8ef07.38cd4f14@aol.com> In a message dated 3/13/2010 3:02:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, t79eco at verizon.net writes: Hi All, Last night, Kathy and I thoroughly enjoyed the playing of Rolly and Marcy at the Mom and Pop coffeehouse. We saw several other Pacr's there also. ================================================ I second that, and Bill Zane also was enjoying the performance. And the refreshments were too tempting. Rolly introduced me to another BMW rider friend of his who isn't yet a Mac-Pac'r. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100313/49190d36/attachment.html From rollybrown at verizon.net Sat Mar 13 20:40:50 2010 From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:40:50 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Friday night mind twister "I'm my own my own grandpa" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20D5BDF8-7B7F-4875-ACD8-308D752EF2AB@verizon.net> On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:07 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > I like the facial visuals in this one and started me "down the maze" > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7x1ETPkZsk > This one had me thinking of Rolly. > > This one has clearer sound which kinda helps you "work through it." > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXU-ZdmzNmo It makes sense that you would think of me...I used to perform this song years ago. I forget who wrote it, but it was originally popularized by Homer and Jethro, who were a country music comedy/ music act...Jethro (last name "Burns") was also one of the world's greatest jazz mandolinists, and I got to open for him once in Philly. He was also good pals with Steve Goodman, and Goodman also performed this tune, IIRC. Cheers, Rolly Rolly Brown Sellersville PA www.rollybrown.com www.myspace.com/rollybrown From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 20:46:03 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:46:03 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Good thing that Edde is bigger than a wolf Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re644qgnCtw (WS) Hunting wolves in Mongolia using golden eagles. He might not have made it back from his RtW trip. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From rsorens at comcast.net Sat Mar 13 20:51:44 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:51:44 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Monkey'ville Cycle Center BMW Message-ID: Received my invitation to the BMW Open House at Monkey'ville on Friday nite....anybody else? Rick Sorensen R1150GS - Pseudo Adventure "TEKKI" - 'iron knight' R1150GS "KANKU III" - 'to view the sky' -------------------------------------------- "Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing often and for the same reason." Mark Twain From rollybrown at verizon.net Sat Mar 13 21:11:06 2010 From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:11:06 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rolly's concert In-Reply-To: <1477224192.247727.1268510542965.JavaMail.root@vms182.mailsrvcs.net> References: <1477224192.247727.1268510542965.JavaMail.root@vms182.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <999E976D-66D6-4409-B5F6-9D3A009D09E8@verizon.net> On Mar 13, 2010, at 3:02 PM, t79eco at verizon.net wrote: > Hi All, > Last night, Kathy and I thoroughly enjoyed the playing of > Rolly and Marcy at the Mom and Pop coffeehouse. We saw several > other Pacr's there also. > > The musical rapport between the two performers was wonderful. > > Question for Rolly, What ever happened to Travis, the fiddle > player who performed with you last year and was headed to Nashville > to display his most impressive improvisational skills? Hi, Tom, Thanks for the kind words, and I'm glad you guys enjoyed the concert...we had a ball, and I'll throw a vid or two up on youtube soon. I checked Travis's website: http://traviswetzel.com/index.htm It looks like he's dividing his time between PA and Nashville. Haven't heard much else. Cheers, Rolly Rolly Brown Sellersville PA www.rollybrown.com www.myspace.com/rollybrown From 321design at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 21:12:11 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:12:11 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Good thing that Edde is bigger than a wolf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74d2fbe11003131312p5be22298v57b71775d7f72ead@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re644qgnCtw > (WS) ?Hunting wolves in Mongolia using golden eagles. > Those eagles are bad mofos. Did I see a lift ticket on that guys jacket at 5:33? -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From rollybrown at verizon.net Sat Mar 13 21:17:02 2010 From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:17:02 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rolly's concert In-Reply-To: <48c2e.16c8ef07.38cd4f14@aol.com> References: <48c2e.16c8ef07.38cd4f14@aol.com> Message-ID: <95D1C4BA-7BE2-492F-9C00-8BE5391F3715@verizon.net> On Mar 13, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Braveirwin at aol.com wrote: > I second that, and Bill Zane also was enjoying the performance. And > the > refreshments were too tempting. Rolly introduced me to another BMW > rider > friend of his who isn't yet a Mac-Pac'r. Yup, Jay Lermitte is a Tai Chi student of mine. He picked up a used R75/5 last year. I sent him to Cutter, so it's in tiptop shape now, one assumes. Not sure if he'll join the Pac, but he went to the recent Airheads event and had a great time. And, yes, the baked goods at Mom-n-Pop's are pretty durn tempting, and reasonably priced as well! It was great to see some Pac'rs at the concert, although it reminded me of my current status as a rider (grounded pending health improvements), which bummed me out ever so slightly...oh, well, I wouldn't be riding today anyhow.... :^\ Cheers, Rolly Rolly Brown Sellersville PA www.rollybrown.com www.myspace.com/rollybrown From tpcutter at aol.com Sat Mar 13 21:24:44 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:24:44 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Spline Lube In-Reply-To: <40C0F19822184F39AE673F135BD7F73F@home.robinson.org> References: <4B9B5B6E.3264.B01C98A@localhost> <40C0F19822184F39AE673F135BD7F73F@home.robinson.org> Message-ID: <8CC910ABBFC5D81-58DC-5908@webmail-m082.sysops.aol.com> <> Nice write-up, Joe. We should get together and write some BMW repair stuff. That would be be entertaining and contribute a bit to the knowledge base. I loved the line "It is a crime to reinstall dirty parts." Seems I read that somewhere recently :) --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 21:33:43 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:33:43 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] There are models and then there are MODELS Message-ID: http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/park.htm (WS) The guy is selftaught and GOOD. VERY IMPRESSIVE. Check it out. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Mar 13 21:52:23 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:52:23 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Good thing that Edde is bigger than a wolf In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4B9BC2C7.8204.188B8DE@localhost> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re644qgnCtw > (WS) Hunting wolves in Mongolia using golden eagles. > > He might not have made it back from his RtW trip. > > That is amazing. I would think the wolf would win. That is one bad a** bird. I liked the double team manuver. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Mar 13 21:56:07 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:56:07 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Spline Lube In-Reply-To: <8CC910ABBFC5D81-58DC-5908@webmail-m082.sysops.aol.com> References: <40C0F19822184F39AE673F135BD7F73F@home.robinson.org> Message-ID: <4B9BC3A7.30863.18C2318@localhost> > > < of the event.http://home.jtan.com/~joe/saab/clutch.htm>> > > Nice write-up, Joe. We should get together and write some BMW repair > stuff. That would be be entertaining and contribute a bit to the > knowledge base. > Thanks. Coming from you that means a lot. > I loved the line "It is a crime to reinstall dirty parts." Seems I read > that somewhere recently :) What can I say, it was a good line. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From wayne at 2zars.com Sat Mar 13 22:22:51 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:22:51 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Monkey'ville Cycle Center BMW In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <214op5ppmt9h5b30dja43ffovu3pfhqc0j@4ax.com> >Received my invitation to the BMW Open House at Monkey'ville on Friday >nite....anybody else? mee to Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Mar 13 23:02:38 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:02:38 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Monkey'ville Cycle Center BMW In-Reply-To: <214op5ppmt9h5b30dja43ffovu3pfhqc0j@4ax.com> References: Message-ID: <4B9BD33E.9700.1C9088A@localhost> > > > >Received my invitation to the BMW Open House at Monkey'ville on Friday > >nite....anybody else? > > mee to > > I did not. What date is it? Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From wayne at 2zars.com Sun Mar 14 00:17:50 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:17:50 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Monkey'ville Cycle Center BMW In-Reply-To: <4B9BD33E.9700.1C9088A@localhost> References: <214op5ppmt9h5b30dja43ffovu3pfhqc0j@4ax.com> <4B9BD33E.9700.1C9088A@localhost> Message-ID: >> >> >Received my invitation to the BMW Open House at Monkey'ville on Friday >> >nite....anybody else? >> >> mee to >> >> > >I did not. What date is it? March 19 from 6-9PM Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From antifreeze at earthlink.net Sun Mar 14 00:51:12 2010 From: antifreeze at earthlink.net (antifreeze at earthlink.net) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:51:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nice day for a ride... Message-ID: <20150132.1268527873191.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> -----Original Message----- >From: Doug Raymond >Sent: Mar 13, 2010 12:40 PM >To: Mac-Pac >Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nice day for a ride... > >....so I'm going to ride out to visit a friend in mid-state, about 3 >hrs west of here. > >Leaving in about an hour, should be back just before midnight. > >The temps are mild. The wind will be exciting but the rain won't get >through my one-piece rainsuit. > >-- >-- --------------- >Doug Raymond >R1150RT '02 >Ambler, PA What's a ride if it doesn't have a little edge to it, right Doug? :-) Gary Lowe Philly >_______________________________________________ >Mac-pac-l mailing list >Mac-pac-l at jtan.com >http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From kgbruce at verizon.net Sun Mar 14 01:33:41 2010 From: kgbruce at verizon.net (Ken Bruce) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:33:41 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goose Bay Labrador Trip Initiation References: <9D8C9BC809F440079AD66BCE1066C908@home.robinson.org> <4B94FBE1.7080709@argolis.org> <73BE91E528284F7682B32E34D0713743@lenovo4903350b> <60201B524556440782784668CFD0FD74@dellfe483b726d> <13665FD3F98F440F97370469598BCA7D@lenovo4903350b> <2AB11C1467CC4311A886F4CDE333A3D2@home.robinson.org> Message-ID: <913EF038E50048A7B6A2A9047F281418@lenovo4903350b> Meat Cove is one of those spots I must get > to and I hear its a great place to camp. > > Anyone been there? > _______________________________________________ > > Yes was there on 2 occasions. The riding in the area is great and views > are spectacular, but never camped. > > Jim Robinson > West Chester PA >------------------------------------------- Thanks Jim, from all I"ve heard/read it seems like it a good spot to camp. I do know the one and only gas station near the entrance to Meat Cove (another spot where I cut it a bit to close). Dr. Labrador....any observations? Ken Bruce From Ducdude at verizon.net Sun Mar 14 01:40:09 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:40:09 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Monkey'ville Cycle Center BMW References: Message-ID: yup me duc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Sorensen" To: "'Mac-Pac'" Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 3:51 PM Subject: [MAC-PAC] Monkey'ville Cycle Center BMW > Received my invitation to the BMW Open House at Monkey'ville on Friday > nite....anybody else? > > Rick Sorensen > > R1150GS - Pseudo Adventure > "TEKKI" - 'iron knight' > R1150GS > "KANKU III" - 'to view the sky' > > -------------------------------------------- > "Politicians are like diapers. > They both need changing often and for the same reason." > Mark Twain > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From kimi.bush at gmail.com Sun Mar 14 03:05:05 2010 From: kimi.bush at gmail.com (Kimi Bush) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:05:05 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Desperately seeking place to live (wee bit of moto content) Message-ID: Hello List! Well, I did it. I finally decided to change careers and landed a decent offer from UPenn. I'll spare you the long version of the story but I'll say this: The money isn't quite what I'm getting from Merck right now, but I'm following my instincts and I think it will work out better in the long run. Anyway- I'm writing because Corey and I are having trouble finding a new place to live and I was hoping to tap the collective knowledge of the Pac to see if anyone knew of anything that might work for us. We have the following criteria: -Needs to be rather close to SEPTA transit or Regional Rail system (we're 20-30 mins away now, that's not going to work for us - it would mean a 1.5 hour commute for me each way) -Needs to be within commuting distance to King of Prussia (where Corey's job is) -Due to the MOTORCYCLES -Need to have a private garage (attached/direct-access is preferred, but will consider other configurations, electricity in the garage is requisite) -We're looking to rent and not buy for right now -Max rent $1500 (and that's pushing it, so we can't really consider anything higher) -2 bedroom minimum and would prefer 2 full bath If you can believe it, we have some other criteria too, but these are "the essentials". If anyone knows of anything out there or drives past a place with "for rent" sign that seems appropriate, please give us a heads up. I'll save you from suggesting it- we've already scoured craigslist and came up with a very short list that has turned into 1 or 2 places that we're going to look at, but aren't too hopeful about. Thanks you guys. Anything you can suggest would be appreciated. It's been a pretty rough process. -Kimi (&Corey) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100313/11e7df6c/attachment.html From piechota at argolis.org Sun Mar 14 03:54:04 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:54:04 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <4B945F10.9080605@ptd.net> References: <694286501.12538301267934359727.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4B945F10.9080605@ptd.net> Message-ID: <4B9C5DDC.3070809@argolis.org> Chris wrote: > Actually, I prefer non branded (no logo items) if I have to pay for > anything. It's a pet peeve of mine that I dont pay for someone else's > advertising. I got no problem buying MAC PAC stuff but "major brand > names" I dont buy. Hey, if Honda, Yamaski, Motozuki, etc. wants to give > me a shirt, fine, but I refuse to buy anything with their logo on it if > that decision is at all practical. I'm with Chris on this one. I don't mind a MAC-PAC or Twisted Roads T-shirt, but I try to resist corporate logos. They can do their own advertising without me paying to do it for them. Plus, as Gerry mentioned, some brands do not like you using their hallowed intellectual property on stuff just in case you commit a crime and they get sued because their logo is on it, or some such ridiculousness. Thus far, I have 'requests' for 27 shirts, which would seem to be enough to make a run (the one time I did this before the minimum was 12, but I suspect newer tech has made the break-even point lower). So, taking the responses into account, this is the design I'm going with. - Blue T-shirt - MAC-PAC logo on the front - On the back, in a bold, non-serif font: LIVE TO RIDE RIDE TO EAT Some requested long sleeves and/or a breast pocket. If they can do a few with those properties I'll do that. I hate pockets on T's personally, so that won't be the default. :) Depending on Shirt Color, I may re-do the 'MAC-PAC' and 'Eating and Wrenching Society' text in white or black, whichever shows best. If anyone can identify the font used, I'll use the same. Since there were requests for other logos, alternate stuff, etc., depending on how this goes I may do a second run with a MAC-PAC alternate/non-denominational logo (that is TBD). Alternate logos work for other brands (sports teams especially), so why not? From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sun Mar 14 04:02:36 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:02:36 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <4B9C5DDC.3070809@argolis.org> References: <694286501.12538301267934359727.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4B945F10.9080605@ptd.net> <4B9C5DDC.3070809@argolis.org> Message-ID: On 3/13/10, Matt Piechota wrote: > > - Blue T-shirt > - MAC-PAC logo on the front > - On the back, in a bold, non-serif font: > LIVE TO RIDE > RIDE TO EAT If you want to include or something the coffee cup theme that was" Eat Wrench Ride Repeat Might work well on the sleeves, but the charges might be ugly. If you did Eat Wrench Ride Repeat LIVE TO RIDE RIDE TO EAT In the right font sizing (The LtR and RtE would be larger) on the back, it could have people really wondering. "Ummm Ripples"..... Plus it starts on eating and finishes on eating. Speaking of which I sent a note to Ken Bruce that we could do a double hitter next Thursday. Ron's and Jimmy's in one sitting. With music no less. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Sun Mar 14 05:03:48 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:03:48 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nice day for a ride... In-Reply-To: <20150132.1268527873191.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <20150132.1268527873191.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 7:51 PM, wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Doug Raymond >>Sent: Mar 13, 2010 12:40 PM >>To: Mac-Pac >>Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nice day for a ride... >> >>....so I'm going to ride out to visit a friend in mid-state, about 3 >>hrs west of here. >> >>Leaving in about an hour, should be back just before midnight. >> >>The temps are mild. ?The wind will be exciting but the rain won't get >>through my one-piece rainsuit. >> .... > > What's a ride if it doesn't have a little edge to it, > right Doug? :-) > > Gary Lowe > Philly >>_______________________________________________ Back home safe and sound. Nice ride, nice visit. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From ironbt01 at gmail.com Sun Mar 14 09:50:18 2010 From: ironbt01 at gmail.com (Greg Roberts) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:50:18 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: References: <4B929747.8050803@argolis.org> <8296f6de1003061506j3bc40f0aw52094e6894cb75e4@mail.gmail.com> <4B92F88B.2090402@ptd.net> Message-ID: <2a937ecc1003140150o598ced04kf327f850883f8fb0@mail.gmail.com> Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: Whoever is ordering these shirts, please be advised that I support the old, established, bullet-proof Mac Pac logo and would like one in 2x. (yeah, it was easier to edit Jack's post than type my own). Greg Roberts Wadley, AL From jweiss11 at comcast.net Sun Mar 14 12:26:31 2010 From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:26:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <4B9C5DDC.3070809@argolis.org> References: <694286501.12538301267934359727.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><4B945F10.9080605@ptd.net> <4B9C5DDC.3070809@argolis.org> Message-ID: <594B0706BCC349069EA3E0F0062BB4AD@jackde48df08c6> On Behalf Of Matt Piechota Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:54 PM Thus far, I have 'requests' for 27 shirts, which would seem to be enough to make a run (the one time I did this before the minimum was 12, but I suspect newer tech has made the break-even point lower). So, taking the responses into account, this is the design I'm going with. - Blue T-shirt - MAC-PAC logo on the front - On the back, in a bold, non-serif font: LIVE TO RIDE RIDE TO EAT +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hi Matt, I'm in for 2 shirts XXL please. Thanks, Jack (OJ) From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Sun Mar 14 12:59:57 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 07:59:57 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nice day for a ride... In-Reply-To: References: <20150132.1268527873191.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Dick wrote: > On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Doug Raymond > wrote: > >> >> Back home ?safe and sound. ?Nice ride, nice visit. >> ... > Doug: > You're the only person I know who would voluntarily take off on his MC > in a flood-producing rainstorm with 50 MPH wind gusts and say he had a > "nice ride." .... Thanks Dick. There were some dicey moments: -a rock the size of a soccer ball in right lane at one of those Falling Rock zones on NE Ext. Not hard to spot it outbound during the day, but a big worry on the return at night. -Electronic sign on Tpke flashing "Caution: water ponding in roadway". There was some puddling on the right, I stayed left. -Visibility was a struggle, especially at night. Spray outside visor, fog inside and oncoming lights. The lane reflectors were very important. -Closest call: almost lost control when I burst out laughing in traffic, thinking about you telling Michael to keep his euonymus in his pants. As expected, the wind and rain made it exciting but I was comfortable. The ride was 150 miles each way, up the Tpke and west on I-80. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From Braveirwin at aol.com Sun Mar 14 13:23:08 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:23:08 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Desperately seeking place to live (wee bit of moto content) Message-ID: <4aa2.4af0ed39.38ce3d3c@aol.com> In a message dated 3/13/2010 11:05:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kimi.bush at gmail.com writes: Thanks you guys. Anything you can suggest would be appreciated. It's been a pretty rough process. ====================================================== Kimi, I just rented out a rural brick cape cod style near our farm last week. I advertised in the Reading paper and got a half dozen or so calls. Almost all of them were undesirable renters for one reason or another. Also, as soon as my ad showed up in the Reading Eagle, I got a call from some rental locater service. They asked me many questions about the details of the property. I started getting many more calls than from the Eagle ad. And some of them were from much farther away than the local area. They were much more qualified and desirable renters too. I rented to a couple who were living out in Summerset County. All these calls were from people who paid a fee to access the list of available properties. The locater service called me every week to ask if the property was still available. My point is that it might be worth your while to invest in whatever fee these folks charge because quite a few people are using them. They were certainly to my advantage. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100314/7c26c8da/attachment.html From Braveirwin at aol.com Sun Mar 14 13:28:23 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:28:23 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts Message-ID: <4cdd.6dabb577.38ce3e77@aol.com> In a message dated 3/13/2010 11:54:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, piechota at argolis.org writes: Some requested long sleeves and/or a breast pocket. If they can do a few with those properties I'll do that ================================================ Not knowing this option might be available when I made my request, I did not ask for one. I do prefer a pocket and long sleeves. So whatever works for the majority, I'll pay for. 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URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100314/caccd6ff/attachment.html From kdgregory at yahoo.com Sun Mar 14 13:34:35 2010 From: kdgregory at yahoo.com (Keith D Gregory) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: 10 GREAT LOW Flybys In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <535493.8743.qm@web56404.mail.re3.yahoo.com> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vniz3zXf4g From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Sun Mar 14 16:54:03 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:54:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts References: <694286501.12538301267934359727.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><4B945F10.9080605@ptd.net> <4B9C5DDC.3070809@argolis.org> Message-ID: <014f01cac396$f46486e0$4001a8c0@FastHP> > > Thus far, I have 'requests' for 27 shirts, which would seem to be enough > to make a run (the one time I did this before the minimum was 12, but I > suspect newer tech has made the break-even point lower). So, taking the > responses into account, this is the design I'm going with. > > - Blue T-shirt > - MAC-PAC logo on the front > - On the back, in a bold, non-serif font: > LIVE TO RIDE > RIDE TO EAT Add my name to the list. What shade of blue were you thinking of? I think black on a light or medium blue works Marge From piechota at argolis.org Sun Mar 14 16:59:53 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:59:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <014f01cac396$f46486e0$4001a8c0@FastHP> References: <694286501.12538301267934359727.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><4B945F10.9080605@ptd.net> <4B9C5DDC.3070809@argolis.org> <014f01cac396$f46486e0$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: <4B9D1609.5050104@argolis.org> Marge Busch wrote: >> >> Thus far, I have 'requests' for 27 shirts, which would seem to be enough >> to make a run (the one time I did this before the minimum was 12, but I >> suspect newer tech has made the break-even point lower). So, taking the >> responses into account, this is the design I'm going with. >> >> - Blue T-shirt >> - MAC-PAC logo on the front >> - On the back, in a bold, non-serif font: >> LIVE TO RIDE >> RIDE TO EAT > > Add my name to the list. What shade of blue were you thinking of? I > think black on a light or medium blue works Probably a royal (ie 'BMW') to navy blue, whichever looks better with the logo. I have a shirt that has powder blue lettering on a navy blue shirt which looks pretty good to me. The only question there is how it looks with the dark purple roundel border in the logo. From 321design at gmail.com Sun Mar 14 17:22:53 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob H) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:22:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <594B0706BCC349069EA3E0F0062BB4AD@jackde48df08c6> References: <694286501.12538301267934359727.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><4B945F10.9080605@ptd.net> <4B9C5DDC.3070809@argolis.org> <594B0706BCC349069EA3E0F0062BB4AD@jackde48df08c6> Message-ID: <-2657053645773081767@unknownmsgid> On Mar 14, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Jack Weiss wrote: > On Behalf Of Matt Piechota > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:54 PM > > > Thus far, I have 'requests' for 27 shirts, which would seem to be > enough > to make a run (the one time I did this before the minimum was 12, > but I > suspect newer tech has made the break-even point lower). So, taking > the > responses into account, this is the design I'm going with. > > - Blue T-shirt > - MAC-PAC logo on the front > - On the back, in a bold, non-serif font: > LIVE TO RIDE > RIDE TO EAT > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Hi Matt, > > I'm in for 2 shirts XXL please. > > Thanks, Jack (OJ) > > Put me down for 1 large and 1 small Rob Haut From kaldewaay at live.com Sun Mar 14 18:53:26 2010 From: kaldewaay at live.com (Kaldewaay) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:53:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirt Message-ID: I'm in for two shirts 1 xl and 1 lg Sent from Alain Kaldewaay IPhone From mrmevans at gmail.com Sun Mar 14 19:26:35 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:26:35 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day Message-ID: <8296f6de1003141226x1e2205a7m544632d0bb48df01@mail.gmail.com> You all figure that out. Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA -- Sent from my mobile device Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Sun Mar 14 19:36:10 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:36:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003141226x1e2205a7m544632d0bb48df01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <457095456.15548771268595370518.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day > >You all figure that out. 3.14159 26535 89793 23846 26433 83279 50288 but I could go on and on. Enjoy your pie! John Clauss From mjcantwe at gmail.com Sun Mar 14 20:11:57 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:11:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirt In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8bafeb801003141311t3be74917j7005a546fdd3009a@mail.gmail.com> I would like to order 2 t-shirts as well, XL please! From tpcutter at aol.com Sun Mar 14 20:45:06 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:45:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003141226x1e2205a7m544632d0bb48df01@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003141226x1e2205a7m544632d0bb48df01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC91CE5CED7B61-138C-19B42@webmail-m044.sysops.aol.com> <> I dittint evun gwadjitate frum kollij and I no thet 3-14 is for eatin pi. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From piechota at argolis.org Sun Mar 14 23:21:45 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:21:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003141226x1e2205a7m544632d0bb48df01@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003141226x1e2205a7m544632d0bb48df01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B9D6F89.2010605@argolis.org> Michael Evans wrote: > You all figure that out. Aww, thanks Mike, but you didn't have to name a day after me. I'm still not putting a Suzuki logo on the T-shirt. (What, you thought the number I had on my bike was a coincidence? Also, I noticed 314 in a mirror looks a lot like 'PIE'. I rest my case.) http://www.pourdecisions.org/yappa-ng/index.php?album=%2Fpie%2FMoto%2F2009-09_NJMP%2F&image=IMG_3267.JPG - Matt Pi/Pie (a nickname from when I lived in Binghamton) From ladyvol at fastmail.fm Sun Mar 14 23:56:27 2010 From: ladyvol at fastmail.fm (Jill McCarley) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:56:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Desperately seeking place to live (wee bit of moto content) In-Reply-To: <4aa2.4af0ed39.38ce3d3c@aol.com> References: <4aa2.4af0ed39.38ce3d3c@aol.com> Message-ID: <1268610987.24918.1364792239@webmail.messagingengine.com> > > > In a message dated 3/13/2010 11:05:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > kimi.bush at gmail.com writes: > > > Thanks you guys. Anything you can suggest would be appreciated. It's > been > a pretty rough process. Kimi, I just wanted to wish you luck. Howard and I took a chance on me accepting a university position about 2 years ago and it has worked out beyond all my expectations. We've never been happier. I wish you and Corey the same! Jill ---------------------------- '90 R100GS '06 K1200 R "The Screaming Meanie" Jill McCarley, MD Child and Adolescent Psychiatry Member, Ketchup Advisory Board "Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness." From ladyvol at fastmail.fm Sun Mar 14 23:57:36 2010 From: ladyvol at fastmail.fm (Jill McCarley) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:57:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC: Save the Date! Tech Day in Tennessee... In-Reply-To: <1263764954.26820.1355134729@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1263764954.26820.1355134729@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1268611056.24988.1364792391@webmail.messagingengine.com> Just re-posting, since we are about a month away. Anyone gonna make the trip? Jill > Pac, > > (Ahem) > > Hear ye, Hear ye! > > On APRIL 10th, you are hereby invited to our humble abode for the > inaugural Spring Fling at the Shiny Side Up Motorcycle Rescue Ranch in > the lovely mountains of East Tennessee. > > The shop is built, the beer is already fermenting, and the smoker will > be lit. We anticipate a good turnout from local club folk who need > assistance in getting their bikes in tip-top shape for the season. For > our friends from the Pac, we offer our hospitality for the whole > weekend, with plenty of camping areas or porch shelter for those so > inclined. Use this weekend as a destination or a mere stopover for a > longer week of scraping pegs on mountain roads for early Spring mountain > riding. > > It can't be beat! > > ride well, > > Jill > ---------------------------- > '90 R100GS > '06 K1200 R "The Screaming Meanie" > > Jill McCarley, MD > Child and Adolescent Psychiatry > Member, Ketchup Advisory Board > "Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness." > > ---------------------------- '90 R100GS '06 K1200 R "The Screaming Meanie" Jill McCarley, MD Child and Adolescent Psychiatry Member, Ketchup Advisory Board "Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness." From cjschaffer at verizon.net Mon Mar 15 00:01:58 2010 From: cjschaffer at verizon.net (C & R Schaffer) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirt In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm in for an XL. Thanks for organizing this, Charlie -------------------------------------------------- From: "Kaldewaay" Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 2:53 PM To: Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirt > I'm in for two shirts 1 xl and 1 lg > > Sent from Alain Kaldewaay IPhone > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.790 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2746 - Release Date: 03/14/10 > 03:33:00 > From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Mar 15 00:08:13 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:08:13 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day Message-ID: <23824.707ef3f8.38ced46d@aol.com> In a message dated 3/14/2010 3:26:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mrmevans at gmail.com writes: You all figure that out. =============================== As in 3.17? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100314/a8830bf6/attachment.html From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Mar 15 01:15:57 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003141226x1e2205a7m544632d0bb48df01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B9D520D.1811.76972C9@localhost> > You all figure that out. > > Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA They had a Pi day celebration in Matt's math class on Friday. Patti made him a brownie pie to bring in. It was the first to go and Matt did not get to taste it. Patti made a second one for home consumption. Yummm Ooh! Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Mar 15 01:37:59 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:37:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice Message-ID: <8CC91F74738483E-1BAC-1280A@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> I thought I had a 3/4" T&G subfloor under my kitchen. I was going to put 1/2" wonderboard and then tile down. It turns out I have a 1/2" NOT T&G plywood subfoor. I'm concerned that won't be stiff enough.??? Thinking now about adding 3/4" T&G over the 1/2" & 1/4" wonderboard then tile. Not happy with the additional height......anyone know about this stuff? Gary Christman Broken '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From piechota at argolis.org Mon Mar 15 02:07:39 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:07:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day In-Reply-To: <23824.707ef3f8.38ced46d@aol.com> References: <23824.707ef3f8.38ced46d@aol.com> Message-ID: <4B9D966B.5040105@argolis.org> Braveirwin at aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 3/14/2010 3:26:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > mrmevans at gmail.com writes: > > You all figure that out. > =============================== > As in 3.17? No, that's Guinness Day. From piechota at argolis.org Mon Mar 15 02:09:13 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:09:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day In-Reply-To: <23824.707ef3f8.38ced46d@aol.com> References: <23824.707ef3f8.38ced46d@aol.com> Message-ID: <4B9D96C9.2060409@argolis.org> Braveirwin at aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 3/14/2010 3:26:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > mrmevans at gmail.com writes: > > You all figure that out. > =============================== > As in 3.17? Actually, today is another holiday. I have the steak part covered. http://www.steakandbjday.com/ From rogers.george at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 02:17:15 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:17:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day In-Reply-To: <4B9D96C9.2060409@argolis.org> References: <23824.707ef3f8.38ced46d@aol.com> <4B9D96C9.2060409@argolis.org> Message-ID: <1f13c3621003141917y5f7a20cfy84aaf5a4a7958579@mail.gmail.com> I just blogged about our celebration of pi day. A little MC content, even. Best wishes, Rogers George Newark, DE http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com <---- here-------- http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http://serenitytravelnewark.com From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Mar 15 00:41:13 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:41:13 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] I Deer & 1150R, both totaled. ATGATT Rider walks away. Message-ID: <25327.481df113.38cedc29@aol.com> My friend Murphey, who plays Irish music at the Ugly Oyster Pub in Reading on Thursday evenings, told me today that he approached 3 deer on route 23 eastbound near Knauertown last week and hit one doe. He said he did everything he was taught over the years and was unable to avoid the collision. Fortunately only the bike and the varmint were destroyed. Murph walked away to play another day. Roddy Irwin, Arborist of Berks County '92 K 75 RT '85 R 80 RT '74 CB 200 T '89 R 100 RS with trailer and assorted dirt bikes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100314/13cb5b5c/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 02:42:24 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:42:24 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: We can look at the bright side we did not make the "Ten most Taxed States" list Message-ID: Or most of us did not. Will did. Arla did. We got more in NJ too. http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/12/most-taxed-states-lifestyle-income-tax-burden_slide_11.html Text stuff: http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/12/most-taxed-states-lifestyle-income-tax-burden.html -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 02:44:38 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:44:38 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I Deer & 1150R, both totaled. ATGATT Rider walks away. In-Reply-To: <25327.481df113.38cedc29@aol.com> References: <25327.481df113.38cedc29@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 7:41 PM, wrote: > My friend Murphey, who plays Irish music at the Ugly Oyster ?Pub in Reading > on Thursday evenings, told me today that he approached 3 deer on ?route 23 > eastbound near Knauertown last week and hit one doe. He said he did > everything he was taught over the years and was unable to avoid the ?collision. > Fortunately only the bike and the varmint were destroyed. Murph ?walked away to > play another day. > Excellent outcome for a bad scene. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 02:56:15 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:56:15 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003141226x1e2205a7m544632d0bb48df01@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003141226x1e2205a7m544632d0bb48df01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Michael Evans wrote: > You all figure that out. > > Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA > I'm still recovering from Exelauno Day about 10 days ago, celebrated by Greek students who read Xenophon's Anabasis. Oh, 'exelauno' means 'march forth'. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From charlesdscott at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 02:58:00 2010 From: charlesdscott at gmail.com (Charles Scott) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:58:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003141226x1e2205a7m544632d0bb48df01@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003141226x1e2205a7m544632d0bb48df01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Michael Evans wrote: > You all figure that out. > > Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA > Kate Bush Pi http://www.ilike.com/artist/Kate+Bush/track/Pi?src=onebox From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Mon Mar 15 07:44:28 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:44:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC: Save the Date! Tech Day in Tennessee... References: <1263764954.26820.1355134729@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1268611056.24988.1364792391@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <03E4A361225A48E98B916A763B3C1070@home.robinson.org> ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill McCarley Just re-posting, since we are about a month away. Anyone gonna make the trip? ---------------------------- I'm gonna try. I need a vacation! :-) Jim Robinson West Chester PA From mjcantwe at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 11:23:53 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:23:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC... Fun stuff...not really Message-ID: <8bafeb801003150423o38c4b8e3s42edded1be009641@mail.gmail.com> So much for starting commuting to work on the bike this week... http://picasaweb.google.com/mjcantwe/Mar152010#5448819467129920210 From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Mar 15 11:39:52 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:39:52 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day Message-ID: <35d40.6af38a45.38cf7688@aol.com> In a message dated 3/14/2010 10:56:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com writes: I'm still recovering from Exelauno Day about 10 days ago, celebrated by Greek students who read Xenophon's Anabasis. Oh, 'exelauno' means 'march forth'. =========================================== Geez, Doug, I didn't realize how illiterate I was. Tell me more. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100315/9a4ad4a5/attachment.html From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com Mon Mar 15 12:05:02 2010 From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P Reminderbot) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:05:02 +0000 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Annual Gassing Day gathering , April 3 Saturday Message-ID: <987699.017717631-sendEmail@aria> April 3, 2010 - Gassing Day Gathering, Quentin, PA The Pennsylvania Airheads and the Mac-Pac will start the season with a Gassing Day lunch gathering in Quentin, PA. Peter Egan once wrote of Gassing Day: "One by one, I started up four motorcycles and took them to the gas station to put new fuel in their tanks. I got all the bikes gassed up, but when the job was done I felt somehow incomplete. It seemed a day as significant as the firing up and fueling of motorcycles in the spring should be accompanied by some sort of gala festival or solemn ceremony to commemorate the moment." We'll commemorate the moment at 1:00pm EDST at the Quentin Haus Restaurant, (717) 272-6475, at the intersection of PA Rte 72 and Rte 419. This location is east of Harrisburg and south of Lebanon, PA. This is also just north of PA Turnpike Exit 266. Let me know if you're coming so I can reserve tables. We can enjoy lunch then sun ourselves in the parking lot until it's time to roll. If the weather is still wintery, bring the car. People are more important than motorcycles. From cjschaffer at verizon.net Mon Mar 15 12:33:45 2010 From: cjschaffer at verizon.net (C & R Schaffer) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:33:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice In-Reply-To: <8CC91F74738483E-1BAC-1280A@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC91F74738483E-1BAC-1280A@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <71D11F2A29EA44B4A7A29C8493A7A18A@RozCharliePC> For subfloors you want plywood or OSB as its more stable. Its reccomended to have a minimum 1 1/8" underlayment for tile. That includes the concrete board. Don't take my word for it as I'm just an extreme DIYer, Google tile floor underlayment or subfloor. Tile as well as hardwood floors want flat and stable, level would be nice too. Charlie -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Christman" Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:37 PM To: Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice > I thought I had a 3/4" T&G subfloor under my kitchen. > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.790 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2747 - Release Date: 03/14/10 > 15:33:00 > From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Mar 15 12:39:08 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:39:08 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Annual Gassing Day gathering , April 3 Saturday Message-ID: <38381.3ea8bb3b.38cf846c@aol.com> In a message dated 3/15/2010 8:04:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, todd.p.byrum at lmco.com writes: Let me know if you're coming so I can reserve tables. ================================================== I have it on my calendar, Todd. I'm planning on getting the R 80 RT back together by then. Roddy Irwin, Arborist of Berks County '92 K 75 RT '85 R 80 RT '74 CB 200 T '89 R 100 RS with trailer and assorted dirt bikes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100315/4b56244f/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 12:49:02 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:49:02 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC... Fun stuff...not really In-Reply-To: <8bafeb801003150423o38c4b8e3s42edded1be009641@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bafeb801003150423o38c4b8e3s42edded1be009641@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/15/10, Michael Cantwell wrote: > So much for starting commuting to work on the bike this week... > > http://picasaweb.google.com/mjcantwe/Mar152010#5448819467129920210 I should see the last of the snow in the yard go away today. I am glad for me, that it will be gone. Sorry, it moved North to you. Salt should be off the roads by this point too. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From doehler at verizon.net Mon Mar 15 12:55:31 2010 From: doehler at verizon.net (Dave Oehler) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:55:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice References: <8CC91F74738483E-1BAC-1280A@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <9886451FD1654C30A944FE14AA715178@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Christman" To: Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:37 PM Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice >I thought I had a 3/4" T&G subfloor under my kitchen. I was going to > put 1/2" wonderboard and then tile down. It turns out I have a 1/2" NOT > T&G plywood subfoor. I'm concerned that won't be stiff enough.??? > Thinking now about adding 3/4" T&G over the 1/2" & 1/4" wonderboard > then tile. Not happy with the additional height......anyone know about > this stuff? > Gary Christman > Broken '07 R 1200 GS Adventure > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l I just used the 1/4" cement board over 1/2' sub in a bathroom. I was told the 1/4" is not the same material than the 1/2" stuff for the walls. The manufactures claims it has a higher strength rating and is made for what your doing. I did put in electric radiant heat then a 1/4" or so of self leveling cement for the electic cables that will also add to the stiffness. The $300 for the warm stone and happy wife, priceless! Dave From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Mon Mar 15 13:02:03 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:02:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Annual Gassing Day gathering , April 3 Saturday In-Reply-To: <1407679192.15770321268658111583.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <636171903.15770461268658123929.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> There will be an informal pre-gassing day gathering in my garage. More time to swap lies and kick tires. My place is about 1/2 hour from Quentin via back roads the whole way from here. There are many nice routes to get to my place from the turnpike, or make a complete back road burning day. The address is 16 Austin Dr. Robesonia, PA 19551 We are now on google maps. That still shows the road as incomplete and dirt road, but we are all paved so no worries there. Depending on GPS updates we may not be there. But you can find the intersection of Sportsman Rd. and 5 Point Road on the GPS, Austin is off of 5 Point, up the hill. Like I said, informal gathering. I will likely pick up some donuts, and maybe break the coffee maker out of storage. Make more of a day of it! John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Mon Mar 15 13:04:19 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:04:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC... Fun stuff...not really In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <569354752.15771881268658259385.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >Salt should be off the roads by this point too. Salt is mostly off the road, but there is still a lot of fine gravel here in Berks County. right down the middle of most lanes and sprinkled heavily in the intersections. Most townships will likely break out the street sweepers soon, I hope. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com Mon Mar 15 13:32:25 2010 From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:32:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Monthly Breakfast this Sunday - PFD 9:00am In-Reply-To: References: <171801.791616843-sendEmail@aria> Message-ID: The Mac-Pac will hold its monthly 3rd Sunday breakfast this weekend, March 21st, at the Pottstown Family Diner in Pottstown, Pa. Last month for winter hours. Most folks will gather by 9:00am but feel free to arrive whenever you like BUT: This month you should actually ride a motorcycle since it'll be warm enough. May even be sunny (er, maybe not :^( Sunrise at 7:04 EDST so you got time to ride safely too. NO ice. Remind the waitresses to put your first name on your check so we can keep it all straight. We'll use the atrium room on the east side of the restaurant. We can use the back door but you MUST PAY at the front register before leaving for the day. For directions and other helpful information go to http://www.mac-pac.org and click on "eating". Nice USGS aerial photo/map at http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.249153,-75.659988&spn=0.005289,0.00769 Dark roof, just north east of Rte 100 and W King St Rte 663 (use satellite view). todd byrum gilbertsville, pa From doehler at verizon.net Mon Mar 15 13:43:45 2010 From: doehler at verizon.net (Dave Oehler) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:43:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice References: <8CC91F74738483E-1BAC-1280A@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> <9886451FD1654C30A944FE14AA715178@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> Message-ID: <97E006BED7C84A35BC68DEE36A064F99@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Oehler" To: Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Christman" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:37 PM > Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice > > >>I thought I had a 3/4" T&G subfloor under my kitchen. I was going to >> put 1/2" wonderboard and then tile down. It turns out I have a 1/2" NOT >> T&G plywood subfoor. I'm concerned that won't be stiff enough.??? >> Thinking now about adding 3/4" T&G over the 1/2" & 1/4" wonderboard >> then tile. Not happy with the additional height......anyone know about >> this stuff? >> Gary Christman >> Broken '07 R 1200 GS Adventure >> _______________________________________________ >> Mac-pac-l mailing list >> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com >> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > I just used the 1/4" cement board over 1/2' sub in a bathroom. I was told > the 1/4" is not the same material than the 1/2" stuff for the walls. The > manufactures claims it has a higher strength rating and is made for what > your doing. I did put in electric radiant heat then a 1/4" or so of self > leveling cement for the electic cables that will also add to the > stiffness. > The $300 for the warm stone and happy wife, priceless! > > > Dave > I stand corrected. I just asked my brother who is doing the work for me and he said that there is no such thing as 1/2" sub floor, it does not measure 3/4" either. He said most common around here is 5/8" but what you need is to make sure your floor joists are 16" with good support. He still prefers the wet bed but has been using more of the board for height and other reasons. Dave From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Mar 15 14:30:42 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:30:42 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC... Fun stuff...not really In-Reply-To: References: <8bafeb801003150423o38c4b8e3s42edded1be009641@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3465.12.181.211.35.1268663442.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > On 3/15/10, Michael Cantwell wrote: >> So much for starting commuting to work on the bike this week... >> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/mjcantwe/Mar152010#5448819467129920210 > > I should see the last of the snow in the yard go away today. I am > glad for me, that it will be gone. Sorry, it moved North to you. > > Salt should be off the roads by this point too. > > I even saw that street sweepers were out in Franconia and Hatfield :-) On the other hand, there are a few potholes that are really blooming. Ride Safe, Joe From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 14:33:56 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:33:56 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC... Fun stuff...not really In-Reply-To: <3465.12.181.211.35.1268663442.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <8bafeb801003150423o38c4b8e3s42edded1be009641@mail.gmail.com> <3465.12.181.211.35.1268663442.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: On 3/15/10, Joe Dille wrote: > > On 3/15/10, Michael Cantwell wrote: > On the other hand, there are a few potholes that are really blooming. This is going to be an UGLY season for potholes. Lotta freezing and salt. Then this heavy rain for good "hydraulic fracking" of any depressions, it is UGLY. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jack.riepe at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 14:50:55 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:50:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Second Notice -- Great Slider Ride This Saturday, March 20th Message-ID: The first of my famous DPRs (Dubious Purpose Rides) has been scheduled for Saturday, March 20, 2010. This is the day I have chosen to celebrate my birthday with ?The Great Slider Ride,? a 100-mile (plus) pilgrimage to the nearest White Castle (in Toms River, New Jersey). As is my custom, I will purchase one White Castle Cheeseburger for each year of my life (56) and distribute these to the attending masses. The first and only other time I conducted this ride, the attending masses totaled two: Don Eilenberger (of the Jersey Shore Riders) and Tony Luna of Motorcycle Views. Should they show up next Saturday, each will be awarded Grand Marshal status and be presented with a priceless momento. The ride will begin at the Starbuck?s in Exton, on Route 30 (Business), about 300 yards east of the junction with Route 100. It will be ?kickstands up? at 10am. (Those requiring coffee and pre-ride camaraderie are advised to get there around 9:30am.) The weather for the day is alleged to be partly sunny with a high of 63?. The route to New Jersey has been selected for its great beauty and diversity of terrain. Within the span of 100 miles, the riders will pass through stately farm lanes and former Quaker enclaves, showing the earliest signs of spring. We will pass through the edges of a real shit-hole of a city, cross the mighty Delaware, and ride through prime New Jersey tomato country. In a few brief miles, riders will encounter the desolate splendor of the New Jersey Pine Barrens and end up on the shores of Barnegat Bay ? the gateway to the Atlantic. Specific details can be read at: http://jackriepe.blogspot.com/2010/03/great-slider-ride-2010-second-notice.html -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From rcavalie at verizon.net Mon Mar 15 15:02:09 2010 From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:02:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice In-Reply-To: <97E006BED7C84A35BC68DEE36A064F99@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> References: <8CC91F74738483E-1BAC-1280A@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> <9886451FD1654C30A944FE14AA715178@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> <97E006BED7C84A35BC68DEE36A064F99@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> Message-ID: <000601cac450$81889480$8499bd80$@net> Gary, What you can get away with regarding subfloor depends on joist spacing (16"centers good), joist size (2x10 at least), and the length of the unsupported space spanned by those joists (smaller is better). Also, decent bridging is a must and in an older home, bridging may need to have the nails reset due to wood drying/shrinking. If those basics are right, I should think a layer of 1/2" CDX plywood followed by your wonder board would do the trick. Maybe nail and glue the plywood down? Rick Cavaliere 2009 K1300GT 1985 K100RT > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Christman" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:37 PM > Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice > > >>I thought I had a 3/4" T&G subfloor under my kitchen. I was going to >> put 1/2" wonderboard and then tile down. It turns out I have a 1/2" NOT >> T&G plywood subfoor. I'm concerned that won't be stiff enough.??? >> Thinking now about adding 3/4" T&G over the 1/2" & 1/4" wonderboard >> then tile. Not happy with the additional height......anyone know about >> this stuff? >> Gary Christman >> Broken '07 R 1200 GS Adventure >> _______________________________________________ >> Mac-pac-l mailing list >> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com >> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > I just used the 1/4" cement board over 1/2' sub in a bathroom. I was told > the 1/4" is not the same material than the 1/2" stuff for the walls. The > manufactures claims it has a higher strength rating and is made for what > your doing. I did put in electric radiant heat then a 1/4" or so of self > leveling cement for the electic cables that will also add to the > stiffness. > The $300 for the warm stone and happy wife, priceless! > > > Dave > I stand corrected. I just asked my brother who is doing the work for me and he said that there is no such thing as 1/2" sub floor, it does not measure 3/4" either. He said most common around here is 5/8" but what you need is to make sure your floor joists are 16" with good support. He still prefers the wet bed but has been using more of the board for height and other reasons. Dave _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Mar 15 15:34:15 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:34:15 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice In-Reply-To: <97E006BED7C84A35BC68DEE36A064F99@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> References: <8CC91F74738483E-1BAC-1280A@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> <9886451FD1654C30A944FE14AA715178@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> <97E006BED7C84A35BC68DEE36A064F99@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> Message-ID: <41293.12.181.211.35.1268667255.squirrel@12.181.211.35> >>>I thought I had a 3/4" T&G subfloor under my kitchen. I was going to >>> put 1/2" wonderboard and then tile down. It turns out I have a 1/2" NOT >>> T&G plywood subfoor. I'm concerned that won't be stiff enough.??? >>> Thinking now about adding 3/4" T&G over the 1/2" & 1/4" wonderboard >>> then tile. Not happy with the additional height......anyone know about >>> this stuff? snip... >> I just used the 1/4" cement board over 1/2' sub in a bathroom. I was >> told >> the 1/4" is not the same material than the 1/2" stuff for the walls. >> The >> manufactures claims it has a higher strength rating and is made for what >> your doing. I did put in electric radiant heat then a 1/4" or so of >> self >> leveling cement for the electic cables that will also add to the >> stiffness. >> The $300 for the warm stone and happy wife, priceless! >> >> I wish I did this. >> Dave >> > > I stand corrected. I just asked my brother who is doing the work for me > and > he said that there is no such thing as 1/2" sub floor, it does not > measure > 3/4" either. He said most common around here is 5/8" but what you need is > to make sure your floor joists are 16" with good support. He still > prefers > the wet bed but has been using more of the board for height and other > reasons. > > Dave > 3/4" Plywood is marked as something less like 23/32" in the store. I can imagine that after a year or more in the house it could shrink a little more. T&G does stiffen things up along with gluing the subfloor to the joists. Ride Safe, Joe From rcavalie at verizon.net Mon Mar 15 15:36:57 2010 From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:36:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts In-Reply-To: <4B9C5DDC.3070809@argolis.org> References: <694286501.12538301267934359727.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4B945F10.9080605@ptd.net> <4B9C5DDC.3070809@argolis.org> Message-ID: <000701cac455$592df9d0$0b89ed70$@net> Matt, Put me down for two - one short sleeve and one long sleeve, both XXL. I like pockets if that's applicable. Rick Cavaliere 2009 K1300GT 1985 K100RT P.S. Thanks for doing this! -----Original Message----- From: mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com [mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com] On Behalf Of Matt Piechota Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:54 PM To: Chris Cc: johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss); mac-pac-l at jtan.com Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] T-shirts SNIPPAGE Thus far, I have 'requests' for 27 shirts, which would seem to be enough to make a run (the one time I did this before the minimum was 12, but I suspect newer tech has made the break-even point lower). So, taking the responses into account, this is the design I'm going with. - Blue T-shirt - MAC-PAC logo on the front - On the back, in a bold, non-serif font: LIVE TO RIDE RIDE TO EAT Some requested long sleeves and/or a breast pocket. If they can do a few with those properties I'll do that. I hate pockets on T's personally, so that won't be the default. :) Depending on Shirt Color, I may re-do the 'MAC-PAC' and 'Eating and Wrenching Society' text in white or black, whichever shows best. If anyone can identify the font used, I'll use the same. Since there were requests for other logos, alternate stuff, etc., depending on how this goes I may do a second run with a MAC-PAC alternate/non-denominational logo (that is TBD). Alternate logos work for other brands (sports teams especially), so why not? _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From rogers.george at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 15:46:23 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:46:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day In-Reply-To: <35d40.6af38a45.38cf7688@aol.com> References: <35d40.6af38a45.38cf7688@aol.com> Message-ID: <1f13c3621003150846m5dfac966o9b34c8ab728a3f10@mail.gmail.com> Hm. I majored in Greek, and we never got around to reading a single word of the anabasis. Or the katabasis, either. I'm almost done with Marcus Aurelius' Meditations, maybe I'll go do that next... Best wishes, Rogers George Newark, DE http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http://serenitytravelnewark.com On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:39 AM, wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/14/2010 10:56:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com writes: > > > I'm ?still recovering from Exelauno Day about 10 days ago, celebrated > by Greek ?students who read Xenophon's Anabasis. > > Oh, 'exelauno' means 'march ?forth'. > =========================================== > Geez, Doug, I didn't realize how illiterate I was. 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Roody -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100315/393f3e91/attachment.html From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Mar 15 15:50:30 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:50:30 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day (OT) Message-ID: <473c9.4b1be1cb.38cfb146@aol.com> In a message dated 3/15/2010 11:47:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rogers.george at gmail.com writes: Hm. I majored in Greek, and we never got around to reading a single word of the anabasis. Or the katabasis, either. I'm almost done with Marcus Aurelius' Meditations, maybe I'll go do that next... =================================== I was a literature major for only a few years and I've never heard of these works. I've got some catching up to do. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100315/014acc81/attachment.html From motoedde2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 15:58:17 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:58:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - DVRPC Bicycle Survey: We need your input! In-Reply-To: <23B6CC47-35C7-4781-B648-6B9ECB732946@verizon.net> References: <23B6CC47-35C7-4781-B648-6B9ECB732946@verizon.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Clyde Jacobs wrote: > > Subject: DVRPC Bicycle Survey: We need your input! > > > If you're having trouble viewing this email, you may see it online. > > LET US KNOW > WHAT YOU THINK... > PLEASE TAKE THIS > SURVEY AND HELP DEFINE > BICYCLING PRIORITIES > AND GOALS IN THE GREATER > PHILADELPHIA REGION > www.dvrpc.org/shiftinggears Why isn't there one for motorcycles and scooters? There are more of us them bicyclists! -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From jhw4458 at verizon.net Mon Mar 15 16:15:36 2010 From: jhw4458 at verizon.net (Clyde Jacobs) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:15:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - DVRPC Bicycle Survey: We need your input! In-Reply-To: References: <23B6CC47-35C7-4781-B648-6B9ECB732946@verizon.net> Message-ID: I just passed this along, send your question to DVRPC and see what they say. On Mar 15, 2010, at 11:58 AM, edde m wrote: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Clyde Jacobs wrote: > > Subject: DVRPC Bicycle Survey: We need your input! > > > If you're having trouble viewing this email, you may see it online. > > LET US KNOW > WHAT YOU THINK... > PLEASE TAKE THIS > SURVEY AND HELP DEFINE > BICYCLING PRIORITIES > AND GOALS IN THE GREATER > PHILADELPHIA REGION > www.dvrpc.org/shiftinggears Why isn't there one for motorcycles and scooters? There are more of us them bicyclists! -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From kaldewaay at live.com Mon Mar 15 16:30:00 2010 From: kaldewaay at live.com (Kaldewaay) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:30:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Monthly breakfast meeting Message-ID: Those going and completed the pre-test Labrador meeting we should hold an other quick meeting after the breakfast. If OK with the group I will bring the need testing material "dogs" Sent from Alain Kaldewaay IPhone From mrmevans at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 16:32:49 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:32:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - DVRPC Bicycle Survey: We need your input! In-Reply-To: References: <23B6CC47-35C7-4781-B648-6B9ECB732946@verizon.net> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003150932k521b0f2ela4ed6f377b9ca6ff@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:58 AM, edde m wrote: > > Why isn't there one for motorcycles and scooters? ?There are more of > us them bicyclists! > ...and you base that statement on what? -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From mmehalik at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 16:45:18 2010 From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:45:18 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - DVRPC Bicycle Survey: We need your input! In-Reply-To: References: <23B6CC47-35C7-4781-B648-6B9ECB732946@verizon.net> Message-ID: I really don't think that's true. Bicycling is super trendy these days. Just look at the reigning sheeple style(hipster), there isn't a single damn one that isn't riding recklessly in traffic on some daddy financed super fancy, but debadged roadbike. You live in philly, you have to see this, I have trouble with them and I don't spend more than one or 2 days a week there(in CC though). ;) -mark On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:58 AM, edde m wrote: > Why isn't there one for motorcycles and scooters? ?There are more of > us them bicyclists! > > > -- > edde m > 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), > 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) > Philadelphia, US > web: motoedde > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From hgantz at verizon.net Mon Mar 15 17:15:41 2010 From: hgantz at verizon.net (Harold Gantz) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Second Notice -- Great Slider Ride This Saturday, March 20th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001c01cac463$24919ed0$6db4dc70$@net> Jack, > The first of my famous DPRs (Dubious Purpose Rides) has been scheduled > for Saturday, March 20, 2010. This is the day I have chosen to > celebrate my birthday with "The Great Slider Ride," a 100-mile (plus) > pilgrimage to the nearest White Castle (in Toms River, New Jersey). As > is my custom, I will purchase one White Castle Cheeseburger for each > year of my life (56) and distribute these to the attending masses. > The first and only other time I conducted this ride, the attending > masses totaled two: Don Eilenberger (of the Jersey Shore Riders) and > Tony Luna of Motorcycle Views. Should they show up next Saturday, each > will be awarded Grand Marshal status and be presented with a priceless > memento. I will attempt to intercept you on the way to the White Castle as you get close to Toms River or I'll be at the White Castle at 12:30, whichever occurs first. Don Eilenberger will also be there. See you Saturday. -- Harold Gantz '87 K75S '01 Bonneville '79 CB400T1 Hawk Mt. Laurel, NJ hgantz at verizon.net From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 17:23:55 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:23:55 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day In-Reply-To: References: <8296f6de1003141226x1e2205a7m544632d0bb48df01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Dick wrote: ..... > Doug: > Are you related to Xenophon? > > From Wikipedia -- "Xenophon, one of three remaining leaders elected by > the soldiers, played an instrumental role in encouraging the Greek > army of 10,000 to march north across foodless deserts and snow-filled > mountain passes. . ." > -- No connection but thanks for the compliment. He was quite a hero, and a good writer too. The story is a little like the Alamo only it ends well, or like the British at Dunkerque. BTW, googling "xenophon's ghost" finds one of my Black Sea poems. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From motoedde2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 17:26:20 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:26:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - DVRPC Bicycle Survey: We need your input! In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003150932k521b0f2ela4ed6f377b9ca6ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <23B6CC47-35C7-4781-B648-6B9ECB732946@verizon.net> <8296f6de1003150932k521b0f2ela4ed6f377b9ca6ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Michael Evans wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:58 AM, edde m wrote: >> >> Why isn't there one for motorcycles and scooters? ?There are more of >> us them bicyclists! >> > > ...and you base that statement on what? Please review the Registration Analysis document available here... http://www.motoscootphilly.org/Documents/ Its compiled from these... http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/stats/pennsylvaniaMotorVehicleRegs.shtml #s of Bicyclists statistics have to be contextualized as they tend to be overstated. E.g. somebody who rides once to work in a month...is considered a commuter by the coalition, etc. -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 17:27:09 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:27:09 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Second Notice -- Great Slider Ride This Saturday, March 20th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > The first of my famous DPRs (Dubious Purpose Rides) has been scheduled > for Saturday, March 20, 2010. This is the day I have chosen to > celebrate my birthday with ?The Great Slider Ride,? ..... Happy Birthday Jack, and I wish you a successful ride. Unfortunately for me I am going to Germany on Friday, will be back in a week. Visiting girlfriend's family again. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From jack.riepe at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 17:29:34 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:29:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Second Notice -- Great Slider Ride This Saturday, March 20th In-Reply-To: <001c01cac463$24919ed0$6db4dc70$@net> References: <001c01cac463$24919ed0$6db4dc70$@net> Message-ID: Dear Harold: Don sent me this heart-wrenching note how he won a free dance lesson from Arthur Murray, and how the only time it is available is on Saturday morning. It seems the lesson is for classic dance steps to old sea chanties, and he has already purchased a sailor suit. He has empowered me to find a homeless person or a convict on whom to bestow the grand marshal title. Still, his schedule may change. It will be very pleasant to see you both. I am honored by your presence. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From motoedde2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 17:31:01 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:31:01 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - DVRPC Bicycle Survey: We need your input! In-Reply-To: References: <23B6CC47-35C7-4781-B648-6B9ECB732946@verizon.net> Message-ID: Top posting and not trimming will get you splinters in the wrong places... On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Mark Mehalik wrote: > I really don't think that's true. Bicycling is super trendy these > days. Just look at the reigning sheeple style(hipster), there isn't a > single damn one that isn't riding recklessly in traffic on some daddy > financed super fancy, but debadged roadbike. > > You live in philly, you have to see this, I have trouble with them and > I don't spend more than one or 2 days a week there(in CC though). ;) Direct deposit from daddy types are all over and are a growing % of the hipster amoeba...BUT are they more numerous than M/S owners within the Delaware Valley space? Center City perhaps...but not DVRPC space...that's all I'm saying. When you have a lobby behind you, things seem bigger! -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From mrmevans at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 17:49:06 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:49:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - DVRPC Bicycle Survey: We need your input! In-Reply-To: References: <23B6CC47-35C7-4781-B648-6B9ECB732946@verizon.net> <8296f6de1003150932k521b0f2ela4ed6f377b9ca6ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003151049q72e9f9c6h33db3408d7f60c30@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:26 PM, edde m wrote: > > Please review the Registration Analysis document available here... > http://www.motoscootphilly.org/Documents/ > > Its compiled from these... > http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/stats/pennsylvaniaMotorVehicleRegs.shtml > > #s of Bicyclists statistics have to be contextualized as they tend to > be overstated. ?E.g. somebody who rides once to work in a month...is > considered a commuter by the coalition, etc. > Admittedly I have not read the document yet - will do that later. BCP and BCDV members are not all commuters - membership includes recreational cyclists as well who also have rights to the roads. Have you ever witnessed one of the BCP/BCDV recreational events (do NOT confuse these with a critical mass/mess)? The 'commuter' criteria if applied to reduce the reported number of bicyclists could equally diminish the number of Motos/Scoots considered. C'mon - how many registered motos realistically only commute to work by bike once per month (or less)? And in reference to Mark's post - the trend in inner-city bicyclists right now seems to me very eco-influenced. Most have NO MONEY for a nicer bike. The bikes they are riding are often recycled/trash-picked classics, made into fixies, many times with no brakes. The de-badging at one point was to deter theft of higher end bikes, but from those I know it seems these days to be equal parts "easier to Krylon coat with no badges - we don't need no steenkin' badges" -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From motorrader at verizon.net Mon Mar 15 18:01:39 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:01:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice References: <8CC91F74738483E-1BAC-1280A@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <99475768AD6C41E38ACAB9223F01239F@dellfe483b726d> >I thought I had a 3/4" T&G subfloor under my kitchen. I was going to > put 1/2" wonderboard and then tile down. It turns out I have a 1/2" NOT > T&G plywood subfoor. I'm concerned that won't be stiff enough.??? > Thinking now about adding 3/4" T&G over the 1/2" & 1/4" wonderboard > then tile. Not happy with the additional height......anyone know about > this stuff? > Gary Christman Just my 2 cents, Since you already have 1/2" plywood subfloor. I would go with another 1/2" plywood and offset ( stagger ) the joints by 4 feet on an eight foot sheet. Then go with your 1/2" wonderboard, again offset/stagger your joints by 4 feet if you can. This should be plenty strong enough for your tile. Good luck, Todd From motoedde2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 18:12:43 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:12:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - DVRPC Bicycle Survey: We need your input! In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003151049q72e9f9c6h33db3408d7f60c30@mail.gmail.com> References: <23B6CC47-35C7-4781-B648-6B9ECB732946@verizon.net> <8296f6de1003150932k521b0f2ela4ed6f377b9ca6ff@mail.gmail.com> <8296f6de1003151049q72e9f9c6h33db3408d7f60c30@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Michael Evans wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:26 PM, edde m wrote: >> >> Please review the Registration Analysis document available here... >> http://www.motoscootphilly.org/Documents/ >> >> Its compiled from these... >> http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/stats/pennsylvaniaMotorVehicleRegs.shtml >> >> #s of Bicyclists statistics have to be contextualized as they tend to >> be overstated. ?E.g. somebody who rides once to work in a month...is >> considered a commuter by the coalition, etc. >> > Admittedly I have not read the document yet - will do that later. You should...and I won't even begin to tell you the # of unregistered bikes/scooters other than they outnumber the registered. This is based on information from the Philadelphia Police Department's Statistical Unit... http://www.ppdonline.org/hq_statistics.php > BCP and BCDV members are not all commuters - membership includes > recreational cyclists as well who also have rights to the roads. Have > you ever witnessed one of the BCP/BCDV recreational events (do NOT > confuse these with a critical mass/mess)? Yes...been to several. I'm an avid cyclist...mountain biker, commuter, recreational, etc. > The 'commuter' criteria if applied to reduce the reported number of > bicyclists could equally diminish the number of Motos/Scoots > considered. C'mon - how many registered motos realistically only > commute to work by bike once per month (or less)? What's your criteria for area? That is the critical backdrop. > > And in reference to Mark's post - the trend in inner-city bicyclists > right now seems to me very eco-influenced. Most have NO MONEY for a > nicer bike. The bikes they are riding are often recycled/trash-picked > classics, made into fixies, many times with no brakes. ?The de-badging > at one point was to deter theft of higher end bikes, but from those I > know it seems these days to be equal parts "easier to Krylon coat with > no badges - we don't need no steenkin' badges" If you're referring to the immigrant bicyclist...yes. You'll see this in any developing country due to economic reality....folks commuting with bicycles. Or in South Philly when they line up to get picked up by local contractors near the supply houses. But the hispter/trustafarian crowd buying $500+ fixies is the demographic that most annoys me because of their riding habits, BUT that could be said of a certain segment of the M/S population too;) My criticism of the DVRPC is that they have no representation of M/S concerns within any of their planning efforts-irrelevant of their current bicycling questionnaire. -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Mon Mar 15 18:27:14 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice In-Reply-To: <1189324747.15962781268677584573.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <244271010.15963221268677634577.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >Since you already have 1/2" plywood subfloor. I would go with another 1/2" >plywood and offset ( stagger ) the joints by 4 feet on an eight foot sheet. >Then go with your 1/2" wonderboard, again offset/stagger your joints by 4 >feet if you can. This should be plenty strong enough for your tile. The key to having ceramic floors is getting rid of flex. Simply layering plywood will not get rid of the flex that cracks the tile. One thick sturdy piece of plywood will work much better than two or three thin layers of plywood. How do I know this? Because the previous owners of my first house in VA didn't and the ceramic tile was cracked and destroyed in a short time. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From mmehalik at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 18:33:53 2010 From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:33:53 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - DVRPC Bicycle Survey: We need your input! In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003151049q72e9f9c6h33db3408d7f60c30@mail.gmail.com> References: <23B6CC47-35C7-4781-B648-6B9ECB732946@verizon.net> <8296f6de1003150932k521b0f2ela4ed6f377b9ca6ff@mail.gmail.com> <8296f6de1003151049q72e9f9c6h33db3408d7f60c30@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Michael Evans wrote: > And in reference to Mark's post - the trend in inner-city bicyclists > right now seems to me very eco-influenced. Most have NO MONEY for a > nicer bike. The bikes they are riding are often recycled/trash-picked > classics, made into fixies, many times with no brakes. ?The de-badging > at one point was to deter theft of higher end bikes, but from those I > know it seems these days to be equal parts "easier to Krylon coat with > no badges - we don't need no steenkin' badges" > I'm going to forgo making a mess (yes, yes indeed this is the first time). And just say that I'm envious of your optimism. I encounter lots of hipsters in the city(my social scene still lives there), I can tell you, if this is what they were about, I'd have much less trouble cutting them slack now and again. As it stands lots of them end up in close proximity(sadly a few even participate) to my own activities. I'm an advocate of cooking the little overprivilaged miscreants and serving them in shelters. I just know that filtering out the drugs would be too costly. -mark From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 18:49:56 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:49:56 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice In-Reply-To: <244271010.15963221268677634577.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1189324747.15962781268677584573.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <244271010.15963221268677634577.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On 3/15/10, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > >Since you already have 1/2" plywood subfloor. I would go with another 1/2" > >plywood and offset ( stagger ) the joints by 4 feet on an eight foot sheet. > >Then go with your 1/2" wonderboard, again offset/stagger your joints by 4 > >feet if you can. This should be plenty strong enough for your tile. > > The key to having ceramic floors is getting rid of flex. Simply layering plywood will not get rid of the flex that cracks the tile. One thick sturdy piece of plywood will work much better than two or three thin layers of plywood. How do I know this? Because the previous owners of my first house in VA didn't and the ceramic tile was cracked and destroyed in a short time. Actually, if he GLUES the new to the old, the effective thickness and STIFFNESS will increase. Secondary, for the paranoid, glue and nail some stiffeners on the joists underneath, and glued to fill the gap to the existing subfloor. Now the joists are thicker and stiffer too. There are a number of ways to get stiff. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From ephoet at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 18:59:56 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:59:56 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice In-Reply-To: <244271010.15963221268677634577.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1189324747.15962781268677584573.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <244271010.15963221268677634577.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:27 PM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: >>Since you already have 1/2" plywood subfloor. I would go with another 1/2" >>plywood and offset ( stagger ) the joints by 4 feet on an eight foot sheet. >>Then go with your 1/2" wonderboard, again offset/stagger your joints by 4 >>feet if you can. This should be plenty strong enough for your tile. > > > The key to having ceramic floors is getting rid of flex. Simply layering plywood will not get rid of the flex that cracks the tile. One thick sturdy piece of plywood will work much better than two or three thin layers of plywood. How do I know this? Because the previous owners of my first house in VA didn't and the ceramic tile was cracked and destroyed in a short time. > > John Clauss Not entirely true. A double layer of 1/2 plywood will flex less than a single layer. Is that sufficiently stiff for tile installation? perhaps not. One can always glue the two layers and use lots of ringed nails to lock the 2 layers together. Along with the staggered placement of sheets. But the previous comments about joist spacing, proper blocking etc still apply. EPH From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Mar 15 19:16:44 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:16:44 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice In-Reply-To: <244271010.15963221268677634577.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.m ail.comcast.net> References: <1189324747.15962781268677584573.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <244271010.15963221268677634577.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <31142.12.181.211.35.1268680604.squirrel@12.181.211.35> >>Since you already have 1/2" plywood subfloor. I would go with another >> 1/2" >>plywood and offset ( stagger ) the joints by 4 feet on an eight foot >> sheet. >>Then go with your 1/2" wonderboard, again offset/stagger your joints by 4 >>feet if you can. This should be plenty strong enough for your tile. > > > The key to having ceramic floors is getting rid of flex. Simply layering > plywood will not get rid of the flex that cracks the tile. One thick > sturdy piece of plywood will work much better than two or three thin > layers of plywood. How do I know this? Because the previous owners of my > first house in VA didn't and the ceramic tile was cracked and destroyed in > a short time. > Simply laying another layer of plywood will do little for the stiffness. a second layer will double the stiffness. However, if you glue the two together you will make it 8 times stiffer. Ride Safe, Joe From motorrader at verizon.net Mon Mar 15 19:16:57 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:16:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice References: <244271010.15963221268677634577.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <5654040DA9884611A062BD7AC2803434@dellfe483b726d> > The key to having ceramic floors is getting rid of flex. Simply layering > plywood will not get rid of the flex that cracks the tile. One thick > sturdy piece of plywood will work much better than two or three thin > layers of plywood. How do I know this? Because the previous owners of my > first house in VA didn't and the ceramic tile was cracked and destroyed in > a short time. > > John Clauss I should have mentioned gluing and screwing. There are many types of adhesives applied via caulk gun that will work fine. You want to be sure to use long enough screws to penetrate the floor joist sufficiently and plenty of them. Assumptions here are: proper dimension and spacing of existing floor joist. Todd From misevich at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 19:23:04 2010 From: misevich at gmail.com (Dave Misevich) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:23:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice In-Reply-To: References: <1189324747.15962781268677584573.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <244271010.15963221268677634577.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Erik Hoet wrote: > > One can always glue the two layers and use lots of ringed nails to > lock the 2 layers together. > Along with the staggered placement of ?sheets. > > But the previous comments about joist spacing, proper blocking etc still apply. > > EPH Gluing the two layers together is not generally recommended, as it's difficult to get a bond without gaps. Gaps mean flex and death of tile. "Full spread" of glue is required and is not that easy to get done before skin over. The plywood underlayment is managing the between joist flex, another thing that must be determined is the flex of the joists themselves. Height, wood type, condition, unsupported span etc. L/360 deflection is limit for tile, L/720 for stone. I live on the John Bridge tile advice forum. (google it). Pro's helpiing DIY'ers for free over there. Good place. -- Dave Misevich Dexter, MI '85 K100RT '98 R1100RT From motoedde2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 19:23:45 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:23:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice In-Reply-To: <8CC91F74738483E-1BAC-1280A@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC91F74738483E-1BAC-1280A@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Gary Christman wrote: > I thought I had a 3/4" T&G subfloor under my kitchen. I was going to > put 1/2" wonderboard and then tile down. It turns out I have a 1/2" NOT > T&G plywood subfoor. I'm concerned that won't be stiff enough.??? > Thinking now about adding 3/4" T&G over the 1/2" & 1/4" wonderboard > then tile. Not happy with the additional height......anyone know about > this stuff? How far apart are your floor joists? How big are your floor joists? What is your sub-floor consist? If its planks...is it laid perpendicularly or horizontally? This helps get a better idea of your flooring needs for tile... -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 20:22:11 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:22:11 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ducdude, I am sure your wedding cake was not like this Message-ID: But it SURE shoulda been!!! http://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/an-edible-ducati-motorcycle.htm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBQgxGrF5a4 Both WS. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jack.riepe at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 20:44:39 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:44:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ducdude, I am sure your wedding cake was not like this In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For my second wedding, the cake was a scale replica of the "Hindenberg." When I said, "I do." It blew up and fell into the crowd. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Mar 15 21:00:56 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:00:56 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - DVRPC Bicycle Survey: We need your input! In-Reply-To: <23B6CC47-35C7-4781-B648-6B9ECB732946@verizon.net> References: <23B6CC47-35C7-4781-B648-6B9ECB732946@verizon.net> Message-ID: <6473.12.181.211.35.1268686856.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > > Subject: DVRPC Bicycle Survey: We need your input! > > > If you're having trouble viewing this email, you may see it online. > > LET US KNOW > WHAT YOU THINK... > PLEASE TAKE THIS > SURVEY AND HELP DEFINE > BICYCLING PRIORITIES > AND GOALS IN THE GREATER > PHILADELPHIA REGION > www.dvrpc.org/shiftinggears > > > Shifting Gears is an outreach program by the Delaware Valley Regional > Planning Commission (DVRPC) to help determine bicycle issues and > priorities for our region. Shifting Gears seeks the input from bicyclists > and non-bicyclists like you through an online survey at > http://www.dvrpc.org/shiftinggears . > The online survey only takes about 5-10 minutes and asks questions about > bicycle use, facilities, policy, and information on what would best > enhance the cycling environment. > Clyde, Thanks for sending this out. It seems that Ray LaHood is pro bicycle. Check out his blog http://fastlane.dot.gov/2010/03/my-view-from-atop-the-table-at-the-national-bike-summit.html#more Sadly, I doubt things will change much on the suburban roads. Ride Safe, Joe From wateredg at interlog.com Mon Mar 15 21:34:03 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:34:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] His girlfriend wants to ride solo Message-ID: Hello all, I'd like to share this amusing newspaper article (Globe and Mail, Canadian national paper) about a female pillion who wants to ride on her one, and her guy is having trouble with it. BMW bikes are mentioned by name. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada His girlfriend wants to ride solo Joanne Will Published on Thursday, Mar. 11, 2010 2:52PM EST ------------------------------------------------------ My girlfriend and I enjoy motorcycling. We tour all over the country in the summer. She's always ridden with me, but this year she wants to get a license and her own bike. I'm worried about her safety, and I'd prefer that she stay riding with me. What can I do? - Easy Rider I've never had someone sitting behind me on a motorcycle, with their arms wrapped tightly around my waist, hanging on for dear life. If I did, I probably wouldn't want to give it up either. But in these progressive times, and seeing as it's been 80 years since women were first considered persons in this country, if your lady wants to ride, she gets to ride. Just ask the prime minister. His wife got a new bike last fall. I haven't ridden pillion (in the rear seat position) since I was a young girl on the back of my uncle's bike. Those rides, and one too many spins of Neil Young's Unknown Legend ensured I was cruising solo as soon as I could. It helped that there was always a dirt bike kicking around the family farm, where they're indispensable for checking on crops in the far reaches of the fields. On the surface they seem similar, but there are many differences between operating a 600 cc bike in the city and driving a Suzuki 125 on prairie trails. Most off-roaders get into trouble due to their own poor judgment. Street riders, on the other hand, will tell you that on almost every trip, they're put in a potentially lethal situation by "cagers" - the nice folks in the cars. How an 800-pound motorcycle with two riders on board becomes invisible when viewed through a car window is still a mystery to me. Motorbiking is not the safest activity. Even Pete Conrad, the third man to walk on the moon, died as a result of injuries sustained in a motorcycle crash. Bob Dylan's close call preceded an eight-year touring hiatus. And let us not forget poor Lawrence of Arabia, whose death lead directly to the widespread use of helmets. Your safety concerns are clearly justified. The bottom line, however, is you're telling your girlfriend not to do something you've been doing for years. In the book True Love , Zen monk Thich Nhat Hanh discusses upeksha, a Sanskrit word meaning "freedom". It's one of the four aspects of love in the Buddhist tradition. You must love in a way that makes the person you love feel free, he writes, or it's not true love. Many would argue that riding a motorcycle - especially solo - is as close to freedom as you'll get on the road, so, well, you know where I'm going with this. Your girlfriend, having spent time on a bike, is probably well-aware of the dangers. If not, have her talk to an emergency room doctor about the side-effects of motorcycling. She may have also picked up some of your bad habits. Whether she prefers ape-hanger handle bars or a BMW touring bike makes no difference - it's imperative that she take an accredited training course. Safety schools across the country are gearing up for spring. Enthusiasts in the east may be tuning and buffing their bikes in heated garages, but in Vancouver, the only worry these days is slipping on Japanese flowering cherry and plum blossoms. Once your girlfriend has graduated from a training program, remember, you're an experienced rider and she's not. The last thing you want is her feeling pushed to ride beyond her ability before she's ready. Encourage her to take it slow, and as painful as it may be for you, make sure your routes are suitable for a beginner. You might want to wait a year before you plan any long-haul trips, or tackle the Tail of the Dragon. With 318 curves over 17 kilometers of road that straddles two eastern states, the Dragon is considered one of the toughest motorcycle courses on this continent. Finally, look on the bright side. At least there's no danger the clubhouse boys are going to let your girlfriend join the Hells Angels. From rdlebout at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 21:51:54 2010 From: rdlebout at gmail.com (Roberts LeBoutillier) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:51:54 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice In-Reply-To: References: <8CC91F74738483E-1BAC-1280A@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <3f2b32881003151451u5d4fab73qc9f8d49003ccb01@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, edde m wrote: > On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Gary Christman wrote: >> I thought I had a 3/4" T&G subfloor under my kitchen. I was going to >> put 1/2" wonderboard and then tile down. It turns out I have a 1/2" NOT >> T&G plywood subfoor. I'm concerned that won't be stiff enough.??? >> Thinking now about adding 3/4" T&G over the 1/2" & 1/4" wonderboard >> then tile. Not happy with the additional height......anyone know about >> this stuff? > > > How far apart are your floor joists? > How big are your floor joists? > What is your sub-floor consist? ?If its planks...is it laid > perpendicularly or horizontally? > > This helps get a better idea of your flooring needs for tile... > > -- > edde m > 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), > 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) > Philadelphia, US > web: motoedde > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > My last house had 2x10 floor joists. The bridging is important. Solid or cross bridging and did any of the sticks get removed for pipes? Solid bridging is a 2x10 nailed between two joists and cross bridging is like 1x3s nailed in a criss cross pattern. It that system is not in place the joists can twist. That is the start of the floor failure. I did a beam in the basement that consisted of (3) 2x8s clamped, glued and screwed together because the span was too wide. Sorry but I don't remember the span. Never had a problem and there was some overkill. There is always overkill. bridging http://www.rd.com/how-to-stiffen-a-floor-with-bridging/article34459.html -- Bobby LeBoutillier From tpcutter at aol.com Mon Mar 15 21:56:19 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:56:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice In-Reply-To: <3f2b32881003151451u5d4fab73qc9f8d49003ccb01@mail.gmail.com> References: <8CC91F74738483E-1BAC-1280A@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> <3f2b32881003151451u5d4fab73qc9f8d49003ccb01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC92A17AC6F723-5304-58F1@webmail-m073.sysops.aol.com> Never under-build flooring. You never know who may come into your kitchen. For this reason, I advice filling the basement with solid concrete. Just call Redi-Mix and have them pump a couple truckloads down the cellar stairs. Make sure nobody is downstairs first. Happy to help. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From Ducdude at verizon.net Mon Mar 15 23:44:42 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:44:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Questions & Answers - The schools certainly could do a better job! Message-ID: I CAN ONLY HOPE AND PRAY THESE ARE A PUT ON!!!! BUT SOMEHOW I DON'T THINK SO!! These are genuine answers (from 16 year olds)... and OMG... they WILL breed. Q. Name the four seasons A. Salt, pepper, mustard and vinegar Q. Explain one of the processes by which water can be made safe to drink A. Flirtation makes water safe to drink because it removes large pollutants like grit, sand, dead sheep and canoeists Q. How is dew formed A. The sun shines down on the leaves and makes them perspire Q. What causes the tides in the oceans A. The tides are a fight between the earth and the moon. All water tends to flow towards the moon, because there is no water on the moon, and nature abhors a vacuum. I forget where the sun joins the fight Q. What guarantees may a mortgage company insist on A. If you are buying a house they will insist that you are well endowed Q. In a democratic society, how important are elections A. Very important. Sex can only happen when a male gets an election Q... What are steroids A. Things for keeping carpets still on the stairs (Shoot yourself now, there is little hope) Q.. What happens to your body as you age A. When you get old, so do your bowels and you get intercontinental Q. What happens to a boy when he reaches puberty A. He says goodbye to his boyhood and looks forward to his adultery (So true) Q. Name a major disease associated with cigarettes A. Premature death Q. What is artificial insemination A. When the farmer does it to the bull instead of the cow Q. How can you delay milk turning sour A. Keep it in the cow (Simple, but brilliant) Q. How are the main 20 parts of the body categorized (e.g. The abdomen) A. The body is consisted into 3 parts - the brainium, the borax and the abdominal cavity. The brainium contains the brain, the borax contains the heart and lungs and the abdominal cavity contains the five bowels: A, E, I, O and U (What the *!!*???) Q. What is the fibula? A. A small lie Q. What does 'varicose' mean? A. Nearby Q. What is the most common form of birth control A. Most people prevent contraception by wearing a condominium (That would work) Q. Give the meaning of the term 'Caesarean section' A. The caesarean section is a district in Rome Q. What is a seizure? A. A Roman Emperor. (Julius Seizure, I came, I saw, I had a fit) Q. What is a terminal illness A. When you are sick at the airport. (Irrefutable) Q. Give an example of a fungus. What is a characteristic feature? A. Mushrooms. They always grow in damp places and they look like umbrellas Q. Use the word 'judicious' in a sentence to show you understand its meaning A. Hands that judicious can be soft as your face. (OMG) Q. What does the word 'benign' mean? A. Benign is what you will be after you be eight Q. What is a turbine? A. Something an Arab or Shreik wears on his head From rsorens at comcast.net Mon Mar 15 23:59:29 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:59:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice In-Reply-To: <5654040DA9884611A062BD7AC2803434@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: >I should have mentioned gluing and screwing. What a bunch of degenerates! I can ALWAYS count on you guys to take it right into the gutter! Sorry, but you ALL thought it too..... Rick From mrmevans at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 00:58:51 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:58:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Questions & Answers - The schools certainly could do a better job! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8296f6de1003151758n31946080q938765f1cddd5fc5@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Eric Ducdude shared several examples of youthful [lack of] wisdom: > > ?Q. What causes the tides in the oceans > > ?A. The tides are a fight between the earth and the moon. All water tends to > flow towards the moon, because there is no water on the moon, and nature > abhors a vacuum. I forget where the sun joins the fight > It should be noted for accuracy there is a better answer to this question found in a tome of scholastic importance--I quote the author and source as follows: In the book "Politically Correct Cigar Smoking for Social Terrorists" author Jack Riepe writes, "...I presently weigh as much as a neutron star and affect the tides at the beach with my own gravity." Assuming proper citations, this response should earn extra points...how do we go about getting such valuable information added to high school text books in an effort to bring them up to date? -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Tue Mar 16 01:06:49 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:06:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law Message-ID: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> A GOOD THING TO KNOW: New Law: If a patrol car is pulled over to the side of the road, you must change to the next lane (away from the stopped vehicle) or slow down by 20 mph. Every state except Hawaii and Mary land and D.C. has adopted this law now. In New Jersey, the "Move-over" law became operative in 2009, fine up to $500. http://www.moveoveramerica.com In Pennsylvania it is only $85 plus Marge From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Tue Mar 16 01:12:56 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: <483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >In New Jersey, the "Move-over" law became operative in 2009, fine up to >$500. http://www.moveoveramerica.com > >In Pennsylvania it is only $85 plus I knew about this law. Many do not. In PA they also made it mandatory to have your headlights on if windshield wipers are required to see. (This just makes sense to me) but many people do not know, or care it seems. If your car is equipped with DRLs (Daytime Running Lights) you are good to go but my four-een Mazda needs the switch turned. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From gary5410 at aol.com Tue Mar 16 01:43:12 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:43:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice - Thanks! In-Reply-To: <8CC92A17AC6F723-5304-58F1@webmail-m073.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC91F74738483E-1BAC-1280A@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com><3f2b32881003151451u5d4fab73qc9f8d49003ccb01@mail.gmail.com> <8CC92A17AC6F723-5304-58F1@webmail-m073.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CC92C12C8E136E-EC0-7C82@webmail-d057.sysops.aol.com> Thanks for the great response! .........Mr. Cutter's expertise came through in the end! I'll let you know how we deal! Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure <<-----Original Message----- From: Tom Cutter Never under-build flooring. You never know who may come into your kitchen. For this reason, I advice filling the basement with solid concrete. Just call Redi-Mix and have them pump a couple truckloads down the cellar stairs. Make sure nobody is downstairs first. Happy to help. Tom Cutter>> From mjcantwe at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 01:40:15 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:40:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Questions & Answers - The schools certainly could do a better job! In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003151758n31946080q938765f1cddd5fc5@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003151758n31946080q938765f1cddd5fc5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8bafeb801003151840g5d3cf69akc1914ccd0112f836@mail.gmail.com> ...I'm certain that I have read something about the 'five bowels' and the importance of elections somewhere in Jack's collected work as well... From mrmevans at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 01:37:39 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:37:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> <483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:12 PM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > I knew about this law. Many do not. I do not argue the sense of this, but in reality do you see an officer in the middle of a traffic stop suddenly halting what he was doing to chase down another motorist who did not mover over one lane to the left or shave the correct amount of speed? Perhaps if there is more than one office on the scene... Now if a motorist strikes an officer or his vehicle as a result of not slowing or moving over, then there is an extra fine to tack on. Common sense now mandated on paper but not necessarily easy to enforce at first glance. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Tue Mar 16 01:44:48 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:44:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> <483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00db01cac4aa$43ecd780$4001a8c0@FastHP> > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:12 PM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John > Clauss) wrote: > >> I knew about this law. Many do not. > > > I do not argue the sense of this, but in reality do you see an officer > in the middle of a traffic stop suddenly halting what he was doing to > chase down another motorist who did not mover over one lane to the > left or shave the correct amount of speed? I did not include the rest of the message because it sounded too much like a hoax but here it is Maybe this answers your question: A friend's son got a ticket for this recently. A police car (turned out it was 2 police cars) was on the side of the road giving a ticket to someone else. He slowed down to pass but did not move into the other lane. The second police car immediately pulled him over and gave him a ticket. He had never heard of the law. Marge From Doug at pencader.com Tue Mar 16 02:07:39 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:07:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: <003001cac4ad$76c0bed0$64423c70$@com> Marge wrote; >>> sympathetic snips > A GOOD THING TO KNOW: > New Law: If a patrol car is pulled over to the side of the road, you must > change to the next lane (away from the stopped vehicle) or slow down by 20 > mph. Every state except Hawaii and Mary land and D.C. has adopted this law > now. > In New Jersey, the "Move-over" law became operative in 2009, fine up to > $500. http://www.moveoveramerica.com >>> end Marge, Same here in Delaware as of 6 or so months ago, although I am unaware of the fine for it. However, I can tell you that I heard of two people getting popped for driving while there was a declared "state of emergency" during the recent blizzards . . . $500 fines for those! Ouch, Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 02:11:28 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:11:28 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Aliens at Daytona Message-ID: <4a4431121003151911pdcfcb22td02db43150836d79@mail.gmail.com> This is how we roll down Main Street. http://picasaweb.google.com/114846463764234806347/AliensAtDaytona# ECO Dan Greensboro NC From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 02:54:13 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:54:13 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jack some Jersey woman is trying to take over your turf!!! Message-ID: She is going for heaviest woman!! But she has gotten people to pay to see her on the Web. Might work better than a blog.... http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/1027360/woman-aims-to-become-worlds-fattest (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jjs1601 at comcast.net Tue Mar 16 02:56:06 2010 From: jjs1601 at comcast.net (Joe) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:56:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Second Notice -- Great Slider Ride This Saturday, March 20th References: Message-ID: <007f01cac4b4$39af7d40$6401a8c0@joe> Dear Jack, Even with a cast on my arm I'd like to make this ride. Be forewarned, with my busted wing I cannot do any heavy lifting, so if you fall you are on your own. Actually, this is no different than any other ride. Look forward to it, Joe Sestrich From chrisjac at ptd.net Tue Mar 16 03:36:49 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:36:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice In-Reply-To: References: <8CC91F74738483E-1BAC-1280A@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B9EFCD1.5020300@ptd.net> Poor Gary, he is probably wishing he never asked the question. Advice...go with shag carpet (actually, I think I would go with cork for a kitchen floor) or prepare to be swamped with MAC-PAC advice. Chris Jaccarino From jack.riepe at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 03:56:34 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:56:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Second Notice -- Great Slider Ride This Saturday, March 20th In-Reply-To: <007f01cac4b4$39af7d40$6401a8c0@joe> References: <007f01cac4b4$39af7d40$6401a8c0@joe> Message-ID: Dear Joe: I have never seen you without something broken. Take the car if yo want. If I fall over, Dick has instructions to kill me. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 04:02:51 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:02:51 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Aliens at Daytona In-Reply-To: <4a4431121003151911pdcfcb22td02db43150836d79@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121003151911pdcfcb22td02db43150836d79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Dan Whitfield wrote: > This is how we roll down Main Street. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/114846463764234806347/AliensAtDaytona# > > ECO Dan > Finally, the real you, now we understand. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From chrisjac at ptd.net Tue Mar 16 04:35:40 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:35:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Second Notice -- Great Slider Ride This Saturday, March 20th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B9F0A9C.2000501@ptd.net> Jack Riepe wrote: > The first of my famous DPRs (Dubious Purpose Rides) has been scheduled > for Saturday, March 20, 2010. Mark us down for 2 for the big Birthday celebration. One bike, one car. Melinda says she will follow in the car as I take the bike. She believes it's not a smart idea for me to take the bike when sometimes I can barely move my arm. But what would Jack do, I ask? So I tell her I am riding. She then called me a butthead (and said I wouldnt put that to the list). Am I really that hard to figure out? See you in Exton on Saturday in the AM. Chris Jaccarino From jack.riepe at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 05:00:35 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:00:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Second Notice -- Great Slider Ride This Saturday, March 20th In-Reply-To: <4B9F0A9C.2000501@ptd.net> References: <4B9F0A9C.2000501@ptd.net> Message-ID: Dear Chris: Here's the deal: my friend Ihor lives 30 minutes or less from the White Castle. If your arm is bugging you, you can dump the bike at his house and ride home with Melinda. We'll pick up my trailer and fetch your rig the next day. No problem. You're on the list. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 05:20:23 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:20:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Questions & Answers - The schools certainly could do a better job! In-Reply-To: <8bafeb801003151840g5d3cf69akc1914ccd0112f836@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003151758n31946080q938765f1cddd5fc5@mail.gmail.com> <8bafeb801003151840g5d3cf69akc1914ccd0112f836@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Sir: I'll deal with you later. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 05:19:44 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:19:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Questions & Answers - The schools certainly could do a better job! In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003151758n31946080q938765f1cddd5fc5@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003151758n31946080q938765f1cddd5fc5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Sir: You are despicable. Is your bike running. Are you showing up on Saturday? I look forward to poisoning you at the White Castle. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From corey.lyba at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 11:38:32 2010 From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:38:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Second Notice -- Great Slider Ride This Saturday, March 20th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Still with ya Jack, count me in. From mmehalik at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 12:37:56 2010 From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:37:56 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Second Notice -- Great Slider Ride This Saturday, March 20th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jack, Despite the fact that you're snubbing me on facebook(which is like totally the most important thing ever), I'll ride back my ass back from philadelphia, after mildly poisoning myself friday night, just to celebrate your advanced age, in the local police state. -mark From mrmevans at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 12:54:18 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:54:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Questions & Answers - The schools certainly could do a better job! In-Reply-To: References: <8296f6de1003151758n31946080q938765f1cddd5fc5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003160554q68cf5ae2p9371138a63c0244e@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Sir: > > You are despicable. Is your bike running. Are you showing up on > Saturday? I look forward to poisoning you at the White Castle. > Dear Jack, Despicable huh? And here I was trying to promote your book. Some thanks. The bike is running just fine so no birthday gift of a satisfied smugness for you this year. As for the Slider Ride, my wife is away in India for another week yet so it's still me and my sons alone this weekend. I'm not sure what that says about us that an elective trip to a land where certain digestive distress is paired with a complete lack of familiarity with toilet tissue is preferential to being at home with me and my two boys. Regardless, it doesn't look as though joining your celebration is in the cards for me. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From motorrader at verizon.net Tue Mar 16 13:40:44 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:40:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> <483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > I do not argue the sense of this, but in reality do you see an officer > in the middle of a traffic stop suddenly halting what he was doing to > chase down another motorist who did not mover over one lane to the > left or shave the correct amount of speed? > Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA This has been Standard Operating Prodecures for all commercial drivers.........move over a lane to give the officer a safe buffer zone. It is sometimes easier said than done. If you are on a very congested highway, it may be best to just slow your speed way down and stay in your lane. Otherwise you may cause an accident by trying to force yourself into the next lane. Give it a quick evaluation, then use your best judgement. No officer will write you up for not conceding the right hand lane if you are not able to safely merge into the adjacent lane. Todd Trumbore From motorrader at verizon.net Tue Mar 16 14:15:09 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:15:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fw: about Karl Duffner and BMW Message-ID: <15F0C499E4104AE5A2D75B0B9374D610@dellfe483b726d> Fellow Riders, This world keeps getting smaller and smaller ! I just received this email from Wil Elbers who resides in The Netherlands. I thought this may be of interest to some of you, it sure caught me off guard. I'm going to call Karl today and tell him about the email I received, then I'll mail it to him so he can read it later when he feel up to it . I have plenty of photos of Karl and his motorbikes at various events over the years to forward. I sure hope he will find them useful for his book. Todd Trumbore Hello Todd, I recieved your email-adres trough Ed Youngblood as I regularly check his webiste and read about Karl Duffner. Sorry to hear he is not doing well. Especially as I seem to read that he likes the motorcycles as much as I do. I am 59 years old and bought my first new BMW R75/5 short wheel base in 1971, then again a new R75/5 long wheelbase in 1973 and then a new R90/6 in 1976, I eqiuipped these bikes with Gl?ser faings and a Heinrich-tank and Krauser panniers. Then in 1974 I visited the Isle of Man with some friends also on BMWs. My biggest hobby is the old racing bikes, so in september of last year I visited the classic races at Hockenheim; beautiful weather and some 450 beatiful bikes; I espcially like the BMW flat twin racers and then espcially the R51RS and the RS54. Then to illustrate how "crazy" we are; we do have three children and the youngest who is now 11 is called Beau and has the initials B.M.W.G.P. nice eah...? Today I have some 3 BMW's; a R100RS with Krauser heads from 1983, the other two are R100 projects. As I am collecting all about BMW since 1978 and wrote a book in the Dutch language about 75 years of BMW back in 1998, as I am now without a job since the beginning of this year. So I have time and not so much money, I thought about a new version of my old book. So now I am writing and seeking together nice pictures for my new book, which will appear in the Dutch language first, and then others as well. SO I would like to ask you and Karl I I may use some of the pictures of Karl's BMWs in my book?! Then automatically arises the next question; did Karl take pictures of the BMW racers years ago when he was in Europe?? Or even in the US of A? You know as I am looking for nice BMW pictures all over the world which I may use in my future books or articles. Perhaps Karl would like to recieve a letter in German? I can do that as I worked in Germany for over 10 years, and as I live on the German border all my live, even in a village with a German name. By the by my job was technical translator, a skill that I developed through my motorcycle hobby. Perhaps Karl even has an old BMW book on his shelf (this is from around 1974), written by a friend of mine; Heinz H?rtel from Germany. Around 1987 together we planned a new BMW book in German language, it was completed, but never published; it is on the internet although never published; when you check under BMW H?rtel/Elbers. So Todd a lot to tell, I hope Karl is still alive and kicking and wish him well. White-blue greetings from The Netherlands Wil ELbers Kreeftenheide 76 NL-5853AL Siebengewald The Netherlands -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SMS "HOTMAIL" naar 3010 en ontvang gratis de juiste instellingen voor Hotmail op je mobiele telefoon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100316/ac7cb24b/attachment.html From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 14:24:30 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:24:30 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fw: about Karl Duffner and BMW In-Reply-To: <15F0C499E4104AE5A2D75B0B9374D610@dellfe483b726d> References: <15F0C499E4104AE5A2D75B0B9374D610@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > Fellow Riders, > > This world keeps getting smaller and smaller ! > I just received this email from Wil Elbers who resides in The Netherlands. ?I thought this may be of interest to some of you, it sure caught me off guard. > I'm going to call Karl today and tell him about the email I received, then I'll mail it to him so he can read it later when he feel up to it > . > I have plenty of photos of Karl and his motorbikes at various events over the years to forward. ?I sure hope he will find them useful for his book. > Todd, this is great and I'm sure Karl will appreciate this recognition. I visited Karl 2 days ago. Though he was in bed and very weak, he didn't seem to have gotten any worse during the few weeks since I saw him last. His sense of humor is still good, well, twisted but working. On a separate note, my girlfriend's mother has taken a serious turn for the worse, so we are leaving for Germany this afternoon instead of Friday. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From jack.riepe at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 14:27:05 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:27:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Questions & Answers - The schools certainly could do a better job! In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003160554q68cf5ae2p9371138a63c0244e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003151758n31946080q938765f1cddd5fc5@mail.gmail.com> <8296f6de1003160554q68cf5ae2p9371138a63c0244e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Mike: The fact that you will be absent from the festivities on Saturday has saddened me... But it has rendered Bregstein totally distraught. He had many things he wanted to say to you. Please exercise caution if your wife returns with a basket and hands you a flute. It might be wise to go out and rent a mongoose to thwart this eventuality. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From rtill6 at aol.com Sat Mar 13 22:43:41 2010 From: rtill6 at aol.com (rtill6 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:43:41 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo In-Reply-To: <4B9BACA7.7040804@argolis.org> References: <0267F2B1E4954204BCF49BEDCB291AF6@Tekki> <4B9BACA7.7040804@argolis.org> Message-ID: <8CC9115C3D32979-4150-106CC@webmail-m096.sysops.aol.com> I think the Monkey wrench in the logo is fine!!!!! Gordon -----Original Message----- From: Matt Piechota To: Rick Sorensen Cc: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Sent: Sat, Mar 13, 2010 10:17 am Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] MAC-PAC logo Rick Sorensen wrote: > GEEZ GUYS! Gimme a friggin' break here! My brother-in-law did the design > GRATUS and it was the only wrench he could find in hs racks and racks of > graphic he could find....and it what he does for a living....does it REALLY > matter that much? Do we need to have elections and meetings or something? Rick, I don't think anyone meant to impune the logo specifically, just that some may like an alternate. :) _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From bmwdick at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 20:03:41 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:03:41 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Good thing that Dick does not have a Toyota In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Brian Curry wrote: > Boulders and homes everywhere would be quivering in the ground. > > http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/OpEd-Contributor/I-am-not-afraid-of-my-Toyota-Prius-87361597.html > (WS) > >(SNIP) Nope I have a Mitsubishi, brought to you by the very same company that produced the infamous Japanese Zero. -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Sat Mar 13 21:52:29 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:52:29 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Sort of. (NOT WS) In-Reply-To: <53B76BEC1CDB49EA928906033B1292D0@home.robinson.org> References: <25b6d.4c8c277b.38cd1996@aol.com> <53B76BEC1CDB49EA928906033B1292D0@home.robinson.org> Message-ID: You were lucky you weren't riding in McCungie where the jumping boulders lie in wait for guys with GPSes. I got a great flying lesson there. On 3/13/10, Jim Robinson wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roddy > > That was really funny, Jon. You obviously posted that in light of our > ongoing affection and teasing of Jim Robinson. > ---------------------------- > > You get a brand new GPS. Your not paying attention to the road as you should > and you hit a barrier head on at the dead end of a road in Fulton MS doing > 40-45mph. Why? Cause your GPS told you there was a bridge there and you were > paying too much attention to that blasted GPS you just got. You somehow > survive without a scratch. You think they would call you damn lucky with > nine lives or even crash test dummy at the least. > > No! Instead a picture surfaces later of you feeding a friendly goat at Jill > & Howards Tech Weekend retreat in Canton TX, and they label you Goat F'er > forever! You are all such heartless bastards! > > P.S. I really do miss you Louellen! You were so comforting in my time of > need. :-) > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Sent from my mobile device BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Sun Mar 14 12:22:17 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:22:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nice day for a ride... In-Reply-To: References: <20150132.1268527873191.JavaMail.root@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Doug Raymond wrote: > > Back home ?safe and sound. ?Nice ride, nice visit. > > > -- > -- --------------- > Doug Raymond > R1150RT '02 > Ambler, PA > _______________________________________________ Doug: You're the only person I know who would voluntarily take off on his MC in a flood-producing rainstorm with 50 MPH wind gusts and say he had a "nice ride." Of course, you're the only person I know who swims in a quarry on New Year's Day, is chased by wolves, sleeps on gravel, and shovels two feet of snow off of a 1500-foot driveway to ride his bike -- and those are the more tame things I heard you talk about. Glad you made in safely. -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Sun Mar 14 13:00:58 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:00:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 15% off of Kermit Chairs Message-ID: http://www.tiltedhorizons.com/ -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Sun Mar 14 13:15:51 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:15:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Political satirist on Leno - -This guy is good. He did Bush, now does Obama. Message-ID: Steve Bridges imitated George Bush on the Jay Leno Show during the entire eight years he was president. He was made up to look almost exactly like Bush. He has now started imitating Obama. Click below. Steve Bridges appears as President-Elect Barack Obama -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Sun Mar 14 13:17:18 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:17:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT -- Ooops. Here's the Steve Bridges link Message-ID: http://www.stevebridges.com/video/flashVideo/obamaVideo.html -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Sun Mar 14 19:33:05 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Interesting web site for thse who can do read Message-ID: http://bookseer.com/ -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Sun Mar 14 19:34:46 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:34:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - interesting site for book readers Message-ID: http://bookseer.com/ -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100314/424dff4f/attachment.html From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 11:53:18 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:53:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy Pi Day In-Reply-To: References: <8296f6de1003141226x1e2205a7m544632d0bb48df01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Doug Raymond wrote: > On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Michael Evans wrote: >> You all figure that out. >> >> Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA >> > > I'm still recovering from Exelauno Day about 10 days ago, celebrated > by Greek students who read Xenophon's Anabasis. > > Oh, 'exelauno' means 'march forth'. > > -- > -- --------------- Doug: Are you related to Xenophon? >From Wikipedia -- "Xenophon, one of three remaining leaders elected by the soldiers, played an instrumental role in encouraging the Greek army of 10,000 to march north across foodless deserts and snow-filled mountain passes. . ." -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 13:09:43 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:09:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Let this be a warning Message-ID: http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/kuwait/man-treated-at-hospital-after-having-sex-with-animals-in-kuwait-1.596515 -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 13:23:49 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:23:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Good News for later in the week -- FINALLY Message-ID: http://www.breitbart.com/voxant.php?id=4065404 Now I know why I don't watch NBC. That weather broad's voice is more grating than Palin"s. -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 01:24:48 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:24:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice In-Reply-To: References: <5654040DA9884611A062BD7AC2803434@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: Oh Boy! Another ride and shoot (|) On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Rick Sorensen wrote: >>I should have mentioned gluing and screwing. > > What a bunch of degenerates! > > I can ALWAYS count on you guys to take it right into the gutter! > > > Sorry, but you ALL thought it too..... > > Rick > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 01:46:50 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:46:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> <483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:12 PM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > > >>In New Jersey, the "Move-over" law became operative in 2009, fine up to >>$500. http://www.moveoveramerica.com >> >>In Pennsylvania it is only $85 plus > > > I knew about this law. Many do not. In PA they also made it mandatory to have your headlights on if windshield wipers are required to see. (This just makes sense to me) but many people do not know, or care it seems. If your car is equipped with DRLs (Daytime Running Lights) you are good to go but my four-een Mazda needs the switch turned. > > John Clauss > K1100RS > R75/6 > In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > Out of habit I always drive with my car lights on for visibility, and I've always slowed down and tried to move to the lane farthest away from a stopped vehicle on the side of a highway -- cop or no cop! -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 01:49:01 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:49:01 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT flooring advice - Thanks! In-Reply-To: <8CC92C12C8E136E-EC0-7C82@webmail-d057.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC91F74738483E-1BAC-1280A@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> <3f2b32881003151451u5d4fab73qc9f8d49003ccb01@mail.gmail.com> <8CC92A17AC6F723-5304-58F1@webmail-m073.sysops.aol.com> <8CC92C12C8E136E-EC0-7C82@webmail-d057.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Gary Christman wrote: > Thanks for the great response! > .........Mr. Cutter's expertise came through in the end! > I'll let you know how we deal! > Gary Christman > '07 R 1200 GS Adventure > > > <<-----Original Message----- > From: Tom Cutter > > > Never under-build flooring. You never know who may come into your > kitchen. > > For this reason, I advice filling the basement with solid concrete. > Just call Redi-Mix and have them pump a couple truckloads down the > cellar stairs. > > Make sure nobody is downstairs first. > > Happy to help. > > Tom Cutter>> > > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > There's a rumor that Cutter keeps people who give him bad checks in his basement. -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 04:14:37 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:14:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Second Notice -- Great Slider Ride This Saturday, March 20th In-Reply-To: References: <007f01cac4b4$39af7d40$6401a8c0@joe> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Joe: > > I have never seen you without something broken. Take the car if yo > want. If I fall over, Dick has instructions to kill me. > > -- That will be my pleasure. I have a ball peen hammer in my tank bag that should get the job done. We'll start with the knee caps. I remember the time that blind lady in a minivan knocked Jack off of his bike. It took a battalion of fire fighters to load him in the ambulance, and they almost dropped him because he them laughing. -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From Buzbiker1 at aol.com Tue Mar 16 14:55:10 2010 From: Buzbiker1 at aol.com (Buzbiker1 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:55:10 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Aliens at Daytona Message-ID: <91e3c.3992a831.38d0f5ce@aol.com> That looks like Brian Curry in the pilots seat. Buzz Buzz Davis 337 Beaumont Road Devon, PA. 19333 610-574-0927 buzbiker1 at aol.com In a message dated 3/15/2010 9:11:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, whitfield.dan at gmail.com writes: http://picasaweb.google.com/114846463764234806347/AliensAtDaytona# From mrmevans at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 15:04:04 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:04:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moto Short Film Message-ID: <8296f6de1003160804s5b50b45o18cdfd63d2e89de1@mail.gmail.com> I first saw this a few years back....came across it again today. Man, still sends a chill through me. Be careful out there everyone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF4dBPNCkwg SFW -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From mrmevans at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 15:28:37 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:28:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Questions & Answers - The schools certainly could do a better job! In-Reply-To: References: <8296f6de1003151758n31946080q938765f1cddd5fc5@mail.gmail.com> <8296f6de1003160554q68cf5ae2p9371138a63c0244e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003160828y189378aerf54993d37d3ac81@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Dick wrote: > > Dear Mike: > > No bonfires on the porch this time! > No worries Dick - I had a fire pit built in the yard just so I couldn't burn down the house anymore. I actually have more concern for whatever facility houses the first toilet stop AFTER you guys leave the White Castle on Saturday. Residents near that location shoud be more frightened than if a chlorine tank car derailed in their back yards. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From tpcutter at aol.com Tue Mar 16 15:44:55 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:44:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP><483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> <> BZZZT! Wrong! If there is a trooper available, they WILL stop and ticket you. I had a long chat with a PASP friend last night. They are under standing orders to write EVERY ticket that they can, to the MAX. The wonderful state of PA has decided that it is a good idea to use law enforcement as a revenue tool, to a degree which we have never experienced. The state tax revenue shortfall is far worse tan they had expected, and the fasest way to bring in cash is to literally make men with guns and handcuffs take it from you forcibly. If you plan to drive, allow extra time, drive the speed limit, obey EVERY ridiculous traffic law that you learned in Driver ED, anbd still budget for some traffic fines. Of course the insurance companies will have a field day, jacking premiums like crazy as people accumulate licensre points. Is itpossible that they might be oin collusion with the politicians? Perish that thought! We got what we voted for. I really regret not fighting my most recent ticket. It was a momentary lapse in judgement. We need to congest the courts until the process freezes.. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 16:19:50 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:19:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> <483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 3/16/10, Tom Cutter wrote: > I really regret not fighting my most recent ticket. It was a momentary > lapse in judgement. We need to congest the courts until the process > freezes.. Watch out for the black helicopters, trouble maker... > ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? COOL! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bergman at panix.com Tue Mar 16 16:27:08 2010 From: bergman at panix.com (bergman at panix.com) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:27:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] (Was: Re: Move Over Law, now taxes and tickets as a revenue stream) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:44:55 EDT." <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP><483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <26505.1268756828@localhost> In the message dated: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:44:55 EDT, The pithy ruminations from Tom Cutter on were: => => => BZZZT! Wrong! => => If there is a trooper available, they WILL stop and ticket you. I had a OK. So, what's the problem with that? It seems like a pretty simple and fair equation to me: break a law + get caught = get a ticket why should anyone expect otherwise? => long chat with a PASP friend last night. They are under standing orders => to write EVERY ticket that they can, to the MAX. The wonderful state of OK. I suspect that's the official policy...and I suspect it always has been...and that any degree of previous discrection about whether tickets were written (or for what ammount) was an unofficial exception. Sure, those unofficial exceptions may have been very common. Somehow, it seems as if people have gotten the expectation of that exception, and have forgotten that there's actually a set of laws. => PA has decided that it is a good idea to use law enforcement as a => revenue tool, to a degree which we have never experienced. The state So, what's wrong with that? Assuming that the ticket is valid--that the person ticketed actually committed the infraction, what's wrong with ticket being issued? I see this as a question of personal responsibility. If someone commits an infraction, particularly if they do it knowingly, then they should expect that there will be consequences if they are caught. => tax revenue shortfall is far worse tan they had expected, and the => fasest way to bring in cash is to literally make men with guns and => handcuffs take it from you forcibly. Um, no. Unless you're claiming that the PASP are illegally robbing citizens, then they aren't "taking" money from anyone...they are writing tickets (presumably for legitimate offenses...I don't think you mean this discussion to be about fradulent tickets, right?). You--and anyone else--can choose not to break the law, and the "men with guns" won't be taking cash from you. You can also choose to fight tickets. => => If you plan to drive, allow extra time, drive the speed limit, obey => EVERY ridiculous traffic law that you learned in Driver ED, anbd still What's wrong with that? That's why the things you're supposed to obey are called "laws". Any lack of enforcement, no matter how long-standing, should be considered an exception. Wow, all this talk about the unfairness of being issued a ticket when you're actually violating the law sounds like whining from people who are convinced of their own sense of entitlement. That's not an attitude that I normally associate with bikers in general, nor with people in Mac-Pac. Normally I think of this as a group that makes a point of upholding the virtues of personal character and responsibility. => budget for some traffic fines. Of course the insurance companies will => have a field day, jacking premiums like crazy as people accumulate => licensre points. Is itpossible that they might be oin collusion with => the politicians? Perish that thought! => => We got what we voted for. I think it's great to work to elect people who will change the laws, but I have no expectation that a law enforcement officier will not enforce the law. Sure, it's nice to get a break when that happens (ie., speeding, illegal parking, not signaling for a turn 100' in advance, etc.), but I don't expect that break...nor is it cause for complaint if I do something wrong and then get caught. I may complain about the amount on the ticket, but not about the fact that I got the ticket for something illegal that I actually did. I certainly don't like getting caught, and I'd be much more upset if it was for seemingly minor offenses that weren't enforced in the past, but that doesn't change the issue. => => I really regret not fighting my most recent ticket. It was a momentary Why didn't you? It's just as much within the rules to fight tickets as it is to be issued them. => lapse in judgement. We need to congest the courts until the process => freezes.. => => --? => Tom Cutter => Yardley, PA => http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com => ----- Mark Bergman Biker, Rock Climber, Unix mechanic, IATSE #1 Stagehand '94 Yamaha GTS1000A^2 bergman at panix.com http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=bergman%40panix.com I want a newsgroup with a infinite S/N ratio! Now taking CFV on: rec.motorcycles.stagehands.pet-bird-owners.pinballers.unix-supporters 15+ So Far--Want to join? Check out: http://www.panix.com/~bergman From jack.riepe at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 16:29:44 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:29:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 15% off of Kermit Chairs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Dick: I have mine and it does a great job of holding my ass off the ground. They are limited in their function unless you purchase the leg extenders for another $35. These are essential if you are attending an event where seating is "as you can find it." They are ideal as a much better alternative to the log around the campfire. I'd say that a reduction in the price reflects the current economy. With the legs, mine cost $150. I understand they are the most popular items solen at motorcycle rallys. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From ephoet at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 16:52:28 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:52:28 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> <483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Brian Curry wrote: > On 3/16/10, Tom Cutter wrote: > > >> ???q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? > > COOL! > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- EPH ?????s??????u?op?p?sdn/???d/?o??s????u???s????//:d??? ?????p?sn?uo? os ?,? ?dn ?p?su?op ???? s? ?o ?u?op ?p?sdn ?op o? p??? ???? ?ou s?? From motorrader at verizon.net Tue Mar 16 16:53:13 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:53:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Friend of the Marque Award Message-ID: <92DF747BA4D340F39910EBF3995709C1@dellfe483b726d> Tom, I just received my March issue of the BMW Owners News, a little late I thought, but was happy to see Tom Cutter receiving Friend of the Marque Award. Congratulations and well deserved. Todd From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Tue Mar 16 17:23:10 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] (Was: Re: Move Over Law, now taxes and tickets as a revenue stream) In-Reply-To: <26505.1268756828@localhost> Message-ID: <1920235456.16452061268760190448.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >I think it's great to work to elect people who will change the laws, but I have >no expectation that a law enforcement officier will not enforce the law. Sure, >it's nice to get a break when that happens (ie., speeding, illegal parking, not >signaling for a turn 100' in advance, etc.), but I don't expect that break...nor >is it cause for complaint if I do something wrong and then get caught. I may >complain about the amount on the ticket, but not about the fact that I got the >ticket for something illegal that I actually did. I certainly don't like getting >caught, and I'd be much more upset if it was for seemingly minor offenses that >weren't enforced in the past, but that doesn't change the issue. I have always known about the "end of the month" and quotas attached to tickets. This is news to people? So they raise the quotas therefore step up enforcement. Does not seem to be all of that insidious. The last ticket I got was doing 38 in a 25 zone. I knew the Speed Limit and I wasn't paying attention and was going too fast. My fault. I sucked it up, paid the fine and that was that. I got points, but my insurance has not gone up and I have renewed since the ticket. "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime" seems to be the thought of the day here. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From chrisjac at ptd.net Tue Mar 16 17:37:48 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:37:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP><483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B9FC1EC.5000405@ptd.net> Tom Cutter wrote: > < will > write you up for not conceding the right hand lane if you are not able > to > safely merge into the adjacent lane.>> > > > BZZZT! Wrong! > > If there is a trooper available, they WILL stop and ticket you. I had a > long chat with a PASP friend last night. They are under standing orders > to write EVERY ticket that they can, to the MAX. The wonderful state of > PA has decided that it is a good idea to use law enforcement as a > revenue tool, to a degree which we have never experienced. The state > tax revenue shortfall is far worse tan they had expected, and the > fasest way to bring in cash is to literally make men with guns and > handcuffs take it from you forcibly. > 40 of the 50 states are bankrupt. Expect more of the same. Chris Jaccarino. From mrmevans at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 17:55:57 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:55:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <4B9FC1EC.5000405@ptd.net> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> <483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> <4B9FC1EC.5000405@ptd.net> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003161055w196cb65dl7cb397c7d168c195@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Chris wrote: > > 40 of the 50 states are bankrupt. ?Expect more of the same. > > > Chris Jaccarino. > The State of Denial isn't bankrupt. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From brian at whatever2k.com Tue Mar 16 18:05:59 2010 From: brian at whatever2k.com (Brian Burdette) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:05:59 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <4B9FC1EC.5000405@ptd.net> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP><483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> <4B9FC1EC.5000405@ptd.net> Message-ID: <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> > 40 of the 50 states are bankrupt. Expect more of the same. There's always two ways to fix being broke. 1. make more money 2. spend less money. A government should always go for option 2 first. -- Brian Burdette -- brian at whatever2k dot com -- Pleasant Hill MO, USA From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 18:17:38 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:17:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> <483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> <4B9FC1EC.5000405@ptd.net> <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> Message-ID: On 3/16/10, Brian Burdette wrote: > > > 40 of the 50 states are bankrupt. Expect more of the same. > > > There's always two ways to fix being broke. > > 1. make more money > 2. spend less money. > > A government should always go for option 2 first. That does not buy votes to be re-elected. So, it is a bad choice. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motoedde2 at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 18:18:54 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:18:54 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> <483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> <4B9FC1EC.5000405@ptd.net> <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Brian Burdette wrote: > >> 40 of the 50 states are bankrupt. ?Expect more of the same. > > There's always two ways to fix being broke. > > 1. make more money > 2. spend less money. > > A government should always go for option 2 first. You're sounding very Chinese there Brian... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703457104575121213043099350.html?KEYWORDS=china -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From motoedde2 at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 18:18:54 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:18:54 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> <483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> <4B9FC1EC.5000405@ptd.net> <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Brian Burdette wrote: > >> 40 of the 50 states are bankrupt. ?Expect more of the same. > > There's always two ways to fix being broke. > > 1. make more money > 2. spend less money. > > A government should always go for option 2 first. You're sounding very Chinese there Brian... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703457104575121213043099350.html?KEYWORDS=china -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 18:29:02 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:29:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> <483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> <4B9FC1EC.5000405@ptd.net> <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> Message-ID: On 3/16/10, edde m wrote: > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Brian Burdette wrote: > > > >> 40 of the 50 states are bankrupt. Expect more of the same. > > > > There's always two ways to fix being broke. > > > > 1. make more money > > 2. spend less money. > > > > A government should always go for option 2 first. > > You're sounding very Chinese there Brian... > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703457104575121213043099350.html?KEYWORDS=china Arlen can be right there too. He was banging the Chinese for steel exports. Potentially pissing off your banker is only for the stupid. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From chrisjac at ptd.net Tue Mar 16 18:32:31 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:32:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP><483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> <4B9FC1EC.5000405@ptd.net> <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> Message-ID: <4B9FCEBF.5070905@ptd.net> Brian Burdette wrote: >> 40 of the 50 states are bankrupt. Expect more of the same. >> > > There's always two ways to fix being broke. > > 1. make more money > 2. spend less money. > > A government should always go for option 2 first. > SHOULD be the key word. Reality says no. 2 never occurs. Govt entities always get bigger, and require more money. Chris Jaccarino From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Tue Mar 16 19:24:07 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:24:07 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] (Was: Re: Move Over Law, now taxes and tickets as a revenue stream) In-Reply-To: <1920235456.16452061268760190448.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa. mail.comcast.net> References: <26505.1268756828@localhost> <1920235456.16452061268760190448.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <30335.12.181.211.35.1268767447.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > > > >>I think it's great to work to elect people who will change the laws, but >> I have >>no expectation that a law enforcement officier will not enforce the law. >> Sure, >>it's nice to get a break when that happens (ie., speeding, illegal >> parking, not >>signaling for a turn 100' in advance, etc.), but I don't expect that >> break...nor >>is it cause for complaint if I do something wrong and then get caught. I >> may >>complain about the amount on the ticket, but not about the fact that I >> got the >>ticket for something illegal that I actually did. I certainly don't like >> getting >>caught, and I'd be much more upset if it was for seemingly minor offenses >> that >>weren't enforced in the past, but that doesn't change the issue. > > > I have always known about the "end of the month" and quotas attached to > tickets. This is news to people? So they raise the quotas therefore step > up enforcement. Does not seem to be all of that insidious. The last ticket > I got was doing 38 in a 25 zone. This is why I taught Joey early how to use the cruise control. There is not a man a live that can drive 25. Ride Safe, Joe From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 19:29:14 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:29:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] (Was: Re: Move Over Law, now taxes and tickets as a revenue stream) In-Reply-To: <30335.12.181.211.35.1268767447.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <26505.1268756828@localhost> <1920235456.16452061268760190448.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <30335.12.181.211.35.1268767447.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: On 3/16/10, Joe Dille wrote: > This is why I taught Joey early how to use the cruise control. There is > not a man a live that can drive 25. Will your cruise work at 25? The lowest on my current car is 35mph. On the SAAB I tested it at 60mph in 2nd gear. It tried. REALLY hard. Boost was up and everything. However, the rev limiter kicked in to keep it from hitting 60. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From brian at whatever2k.com Tue Mar 16 19:51:29 2010 From: brian at whatever2k.com (Brian Burdette) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:51:29 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <4B9FCEBF.5070905@ptd.net> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP><483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> <4B9FC1EC.5000405@ptd.net> <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> <4B9FCEBF.5070905@ptd.net> Message-ID: <4B9FE141.4000105@whatever2k.com> >> There's always two ways to fix being broke. >> >> 1. make more money >> 2. spend less money. >> >> A government should always go for option 2 first. > > SHOULD be the key word. Reality says no. 2 never occurs. Govt entities > always get bigger, and require more money. Until they get cleaned out with a revolution or collapse under their own weight. Every government in history has eventually done one or the other. -- Brian Burdette -- brian at whatever2k dot com -- Pleasant Hill MO, USA From ephoet at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 20:09:07 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:09:07 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <4B9FE141.4000105@whatever2k.com> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> <483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> <4B9FC1EC.5000405@ptd.net> <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> <4B9FCEBF.5070905@ptd.net> <4B9FE141.4000105@whatever2k.com> Message-ID: >>> There's always two ways to fix being broke. >>> 1. make more money >>> 2. spend less money. > _______________________________________________ This advice reminded me of the the funny Steve Bridges video where "Pres Obama" mentions the 2 pronged Republican Health plan: 1. Don't get sick 2. Don't get poor. Sounds like the perfect recipe for life in general. EPH From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Tue Mar 16 20:21:18 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:21:18 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] (Was: Re: Move Over Law, now taxes and tickets as a revenue stream) In-Reply-To: References: <26505.1268756828@localhost> <1920235456.16452061268760190448.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <30335.12.181.211.35.1268767447.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <54662.12.181.211.35.1268770878.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > On 3/16/10, Joe Dille wrote: > >> This is why I taught Joey early how to use the cruise control. There is >> not a man a live that can drive 25. > > Will your cruise work at 25? The lowest on my current car is 35mph. > Yup. Both cars that I have now work at 25 :-) > On the SAAB I tested it at 60mph in 2nd gear. It tried. REALLY hard. > Boost was up and everything. However, the rev limiter kicked in to > keep it from hitting 60. > This is one way that I have used to demonstrate an unstable control loop. Some cars will oscillate the speed like crazy in a low gear. The SAAB is not bad, but I have never tried 2nd @ 60! It will do 25 in 3rd all day long. Much better than I can. Ride Safe, Joe From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 20:39:33 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:39:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] (Was: Re: Move Over Law, now taxes and tickets as a revenue stream) In-Reply-To: <54662.12.181.211.35.1268770878.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <26505.1268756828@localhost> <1920235456.16452061268760190448.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <30335.12.181.211.35.1268767447.squirrel@12.181.211.35> <54662.12.181.211.35.1268770878.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: On 3/16/10, Joe Dille wrote: > > On the SAAB I tested it at 60mph in 2nd gear. It tried. REALLY hard. > > Boost was up and everything. However, the rev limiter kicked in to > > keep it from hitting 60. > > > > > This is one way that I have used to demonstrate an unstable control loop. > Some cars will oscillate the speed like crazy in a low gear. The SAAB is > not bad, but I have never tried 2nd @ 60! It will do 25 in 3rd all day > long. Much better than I can. Different manufacturers. The 60 in 2nd is a math problem. 60mph in 2nd takes a higher engine speed than the rev limiter will allow. FI will project you like that. Carburetors and points not so much. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From tpcutter at aol.com Tue Mar 16 19:31:41 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:31:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] (Was: Re: Move Over Law, now taxes and tickets as a revenue stream) In-Reply-To: References: <26505.1268756828@localhost> <1920235456.16452061268760190448.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <30335.12.181.211.35.1268767447.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <8CC935670646F17-8C68-271C@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> <> I was thinking the same thing. My Saturn cut off at 35 MPH threshold, the Acuras all don;t cruise under 31. It's OK,though. I'll just drive behind Bergman all day long at 54 MPH. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From piechota at argolis.org Tue Mar 16 23:42:15 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:42:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] (Was: Re: Move Over Law, now taxes and tickets as a revenue stream) In-Reply-To: References: <26505.1268756828@localhost> <1920235456.16452061268760190448.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <30335.12.181.211.35.1268767447.squirrel@12.181.211.35> <54662.12.181.211.35.1268770878.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <4BA01757.9010002@argolis.org> Brian Curry wrote: > Different manufacturers. The 60 in 2nd is a math problem. 60mph in > 2nd takes a higher engine speed than the rev limiter will allow. FI > will project you like that. Carburetors and points not so much. The vast majority of cars will do 63MPH at the red-line in second gear. Why? Because the 0-60MPH and 0-100km/h times are better if you don't have to shift into third during the timed portion. I'm not kidding, either. :) From piechota at argolis.org Tue Mar 16 23:46:31 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:46:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP><483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> <4B9FC1EC.5000405@ptd.net> <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> Message-ID: <4BA01857.1000403@argolis.org> Brian Burdette wrote: > There's always two ways to fix being broke. > > 1. make more money > 2. spend less money. > > A government should always go for option 2 first. OK, let's start with cutting spending on: - road repair - motorcycle safety and awareness - replacing barriers with designs that are less likely to allow trucks to come crashing into opposing traffic Oh, not what you had in mind? It's easy to say cut spending when you think they're not going to cut what you care about. From piechota at argolis.org Tue Mar 16 23:49:22 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:49:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - DVRPC Bicycle Survey: We need your input! In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003150932k521b0f2ela4ed6f377b9ca6ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <23B6CC47-35C7-4781-B648-6B9ECB732946@verizon.net> <8296f6de1003150932k521b0f2ela4ed6f377b9ca6ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BA01902.9090008@argolis.org> Michael Evans wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:58 AM, edde m wrote: >> Why isn't there one for motorcycles and scooters? There are more of >> us them bicyclists! >> > > ...and you base that statement on what? > I'd say that motorcycles don't get a group because they can move with traffic so they're not really affected. Scooters are in-between. From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Wed Mar 17 00:52:43 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:52:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] (Was: Re: Move Over Law, now taxes and tickets as a revenue stream) In-Reply-To: <8CC935670646F17-8C68-271C@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <670855483.16660321268787163992.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <> The cruise control in my car works OK at 25 mph, however it is a manual tranny. The particular road I was on is on a hill, 2nd gear is screaming, 3rd is bogging. So I tend to pop and coast, this is why I was going too fast. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From chrisjac at ptd.net Wed Mar 17 01:25:18 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:25:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <4BA01857.1000403@argolis.org> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP><483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> <4B9FC1EC.5000405@ptd.net> <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> <4BA01857.1000403@argolis.org> Message-ID: <4BA02F7E.1040400@ptd.net> Matt Piechota wrote: > Brian Burdette wrote: > > >> There's always two ways to fix being broke. >> >> 1. make more money >> 2. spend less money. >> >> A government should always go for option 2 first. >> > > OK, let's start with cutting spending on: > - road repair > - motorcycle safety and awareness > - replacing barriers with designs that are less likely to allow trucks > to come crashing into opposing traffic > > Oh, not what you had in mind? It's easy to say cut spending when you > think they're not going to cut what you care about. > ______________________________________________ I would welcome a 30% cut in every single aspect of govt spending. I couldnt care about the road condition (I will buy another dual sport) or motorcycle safety and awareness. From food stamps to farmer subsidies to govt pensions. If I agree to the above cuts, as long as they follow through with the other cuts in an agreed upon timeframes, I'm in. If they dont follow the timeframe, the authors of the cuts get their balls cut off. Chris Jaccarino From rsorens at comcast.net Wed Mar 17 01:38:13 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:38:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Let this be a warning In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0177BB1C70DE4240B5A2EEA9D47E9DDE@Tekki> >http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/kuwait/man-treated-at-hospital-after-having-s ex-with-animals-in-kuwait-1.596515 GOOD GARBAGE, Robinson.....did you MARRY the goat? What's her name? BAAAAARbra? Rick From jasiii at earthlink.net Wed Mar 17 02:02:14 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:02:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > 3/16/10, Tom Cutter wrote: > > >> ???q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq > ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? > > COOL! > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- EPH ??? > ??s??????u?op?p?sdn/???d/?o??s????u???s????//:d??? ?????p?sn?uo? os ?,? ?dn > ?p?su?op ???? s? ?o ?u?op ?p?sdn ?op o? p??? ???? ?ou > s?? _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing > list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l Sweet.. This took me a few minutes Love it Jim From jasiii at earthlink.net Wed Mar 17 02:17:51 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:17:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moto Short Film In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003160804s5b50b45o18cdfd63d2e89de1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > I first saw this a few years back....came across it again today. Man, > still sends a chill through me. Be careful out there everyone. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF4dBPNCkwg > Owww.. Just did a full watch .. Jim From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Mar 17 03:14:11 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:14:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] (Was: Re: Move Over Law, now taxes and tickets as a revenue stream) In-Reply-To: References: <54662.12.181.211.35.1268770878.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <4BA010C3.22144.12226AFD@localhost> > On 3/16/10, Joe Dille wrote: > > > > On the SAAB I tested it at 60mph in 2nd gear. It tried. REALLY hard. > > > Boost was up and everything. However, the rev limiter kicked in to > > > keep it from hitting 60. > > > > > > > > > This is one way that I have used to demonstrate an unstable control loop. > > Some cars will oscillate the speed like crazy in a low gear. The SAAB is > > not bad, but I have never tried 2nd @ 60! It will do 25 in 3rd all day > > long. Much better than I can. > > Different manufacturers. The 60 in 2nd is a math problem. 60mph in > 2nd takes a higher engine speed than the rev limiter will allow. FI > will project you like that. Carburetors and points not so much. > This had nothing to do with redline. It was about the control system having too much gain and going unstable. The same thing will happen if you try and put a car into cruise control while it is on jack stands. The controller can't deal with it at all and it will go 20- 90-20-90 or something like that. In the other hand you could sit in the cab and plant the speedo on any number in any gear, on jacks or not. The mind is an amazing thing. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 17 03:16:55 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:16:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] (Was: Re: Move Over Law, now taxes and tickets as a revenue stream) In-Reply-To: <4BA010C3.22144.12226AFD@localhost> References: <54662.12.181.211.35.1268770878.squirrel@12.181.211.35> <4BA010C3.22144.12226AFD@localhost> Message-ID: On 3/16/10, Joe Dille wrote: > > On 3/16/10, Joe Dille wrote: > > > > > > On the SAAB I tested it at 60mph in 2nd gear. It tried. REALLY hard. > > > > Boost was up and everything. However, the rev limiter kicked in to > > > > keep it from hitting 60. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is one way that I have used to demonstrate an unstable control loop. > > > Some cars will oscillate the speed like crazy in a low gear. The SAAB is > > > not bad, but I have never tried 2nd @ 60! It will do 25 in 3rd all day > > > long. Much better than I can. > > > > Different manufacturers. The 60 in 2nd is a math problem. 60mph in > > 2nd takes a higher engine speed than the rev limiter will allow. FI > > will project you like that. Carburetors and points not so much. > > > > > This had nothing to do with redline. It was about the control system Yours maybe. Not mine. Mine was ALL about redline. I thank Matt for his observation. It makes SO much sense. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 17 03:53:23 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:53:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] There is new old stock and NEW OLD STOCK!!! Message-ID: http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Mar/100316y887.htm (WS, new "olde" bikes being uncrated.) It also sounds like someone was looking for Jim Robinson at the end. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 15:14:03 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:14:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Questions & Answers - The schools certainly could do a better job! In-Reply-To: References: <8296f6de1003151758n31946080q938765f1cddd5fc5@mail.gmail.com> <8296f6de1003160554q68cf5ae2p9371138a63c0244e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Mike: > > The fact that you will be absent from the festivities on Saturday has > saddened me... But it has rendered Bregstein totally distraught. He > had many things he wanted to say to you. Please exercise caution if > your wife returns with a basket and hands you a flute. It might be > wise to go out and rent a mongoose to thwart this eventuality. > > -- > Fondest regards, > Jack Dear Mike: No bonfires on the porch this time! -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 15:34:37 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:34:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Questions & Answers - The schools certainly could do a better job! In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003160828y189378aerf54993d37d3ac81@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003151758n31946080q938765f1cddd5fc5@mail.gmail.com> <8296f6de1003160554q68cf5ae2p9371138a63c0244e@mail.gmail.com> <8296f6de1003160828y189378aerf54993d37d3ac81@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Michael Evans wrote: > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Dick wrote: >> >> Dear Mike: >> >> No bonfires on the porch this time! >> > > No worries Dick - I had a fire pit built in the yard just so I > couldn't burn down the house anymore. > > I actually have more concern for whatever facility houses the first > toilet stop AFTER you guys leave the White Castle on Saturday. > Residents near that location shoud be more frightened than if a > chlorine tank car derailed in their back yards. > > -- > Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA > You got that right. It could be an awesome display if we make a haggis run after the sliders. Should bring in a great Jersey tomato crop this year. -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 16:19:55 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:19:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP> <483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Dear Tom: Thanks for the emotional roller coaster. You pissed me off, scared the crap out of me, and finally made me laugh with your signature comment. Dick On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Tom Cutter wrote: > (SNIP) > If there is a trooper available, they WILL stop and ticket you. (SNIP) to the MAX. ARRRGH I'm pissed! (SNIP) use law enforcement as a revenue tool, to a degree which we have never experienced. WHOA I'm scared! (SNIP) > > We got what we voted for. Like I said! (SNIP) > -- > Tom Cutter > Yardley, PA > http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com > > ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? LMAO -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 20:16:24 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:16:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Friend of the Marque Award In-Reply-To: <92DF747BA4D340F39910EBF3995709C1@dellfe483b726d> References: <92DF747BA4D340F39910EBF3995709C1@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: I still haven't receiuved mine. Have you notice that since they've been running Riepe regularly everything has slowed down? On 3/16/10, Todd Trumbore wrote: > Tom, > > I just received my March issue of the BMW Owners News, a little late I > thought, but was happy to see Tom Cutter receiving Friend of the Marque > Award. > > Congratulations and well deserved. > > Todd > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Sent from my mobile device BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 17 04:36:33 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:36:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Damn Republican Judges don't want to throw the druggies in jail Message-ID: http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2010/03/a_judge_opposes_drug_prohibiti.php (Probably not WS, at least the video.) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Mar 17 10:59:13 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 06:59:13 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law Message-ID: <1b3d7.12ea4259.38d21001@aol.com> In a message dated 3/16/2010 10:04:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jasiii at earthlink.net writes: ??? > ??s??????u?op?p?sdn/???d/?o??s????u???s????//:d??? ?????p?sn?uo? os ?,? ?dn > ?p?su?op ???? s? ?o ?u?op ?p?sdn ?op o? p??? ???? ?ou > s?? ============================================ I have no idea what all this is; anybody want to explain? Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100317/036cae1b/attachment.html From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Wed Mar 17 11:15:21 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:15:21 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Let this be a warning References: <0177BB1C70DE4240B5A2EEA9D47E9DDE@Tekki> Message-ID: <806B3B6D4A474167AAD3BFCEAF7A1412@home.robinson.org> ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Sorensen >http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/kuwait/man-treated-at-hospital-after-having-s ex-with-animals-in-kuwait-1.596515 GOOD GARBAGE, Robinson.....did you MARRY the goat? What's her name? BAAAAARbra? -------------------------------- No it was BEEEETTY! :) Jim Robinson West Chester PA From darkside at ix.netcom.com Wed Mar 17 14:01:44 2010 From: darkside at ix.netcom.com (Darkside) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:01:44 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law Message-ID: <25387746.1268834504983.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >From: Matt Piechota >OK, let's start with cutting spending on: >- road repair >- motorcycle safety and awareness >- replacing barriers with designs that are less likely to allow trucks >to come crashing into opposing traffic > uh... yeh, so how is that mc saftey and awareness spending working for y'all? been riding mc's on the street since about '75 and i havent noticed any change. and i'm not noticing a whole lot of road repair in my area. and isnt that something that should be covered by the gas/license/registration taxes anyway? i'm still trying to figure why everything i expect from my government seems to be paid for by a 'fee' instead of covered by my 'taxes'? example, i pay taxes for police, but when i went for a 'firearms id' i had to pay about $60 in fee's made out to nj police. peace eric From jerrycline at hotmail.com Wed Mar 17 14:05:04 2010 From: jerrycline at hotmail.com (Jerry Cline) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:05:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Harley For Sale? Message-ID: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62F4J620100316?dbk Jerry Cline 610 457 5757 mailto:jerrycline at hotmail.com From darkside at ix.netcom.com Wed Mar 17 14:06:09 2010 From: darkside at ix.netcom.com (Darkside) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:06:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] happy st. pat's day Message-ID: <20399818.1268834769233.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> took today off, and since i'm always awake by 5AM anyway, hit the local irish pub that was open at 6 am this morning. nice turn out. lots of out of uniform police drinking enough to put them over .08 bac. hypocrites! even had one uniformed officer come in to the cheers of his off duty comrades, althought he at least didnt have something to drink. nap time. then back to celebrate some more. y'all have a great happy st. pat's day!! risitas! eric From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 17 14:08:32 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:08:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Blue Comets MC Club History Message-ID: <762B55BCE213429EB098412D1C4868B3@dellfe483b726d> The Blue Comet MC Club is just down the road from us in Skippack. They are starting to make plans for their 75th Anniversary. I thought some of you may be interested in the history of the club, I was. http://www.bluecometmc.com/history.htm I know some of the members and they are almost as friendly and cordial as mac-pac members. You may have been under the false impression that one must have ownership to a Harley or Indian to join. That is not the case, in fact this club welcomes riders of all makes including BMW. The club is looking for new members, so if you live in the area you may want to look into it. The Blue Comets are a fairly active club including having their own dirt track and will be holding some races soon. Are you listening Marge !! They also have poker runs........if you are into that sort of activity. Todd Trumbore From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 17 14:21:32 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fw: [OT] (Was: Re: Move Over Law, now taxes and tickets as a revenue stream) Message-ID: <5A6C7E6591BA468D9458483FE2BB64BC@dellfe483b726d> THE line of the day: > It's OK,though. I'll just drive behind Bergman all day long at 54 MPH. > > Tom Cutter I'm sorry, that just made me laugh. Now you might hear that from one of our hourly drivers........never a mileage driver....zzzoooooomm !! Todd From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Mar 17 14:22:41 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:22:41 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Blue Comets MC Club History In-Reply-To: <762B55BCE213429EB098412D1C4868B3@dellfe483b726d> References: <762B55BCE213429EB098412D1C4868B3@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <22995.12.181.211.35.1268835761.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > The Blue Comet MC Club is just down the road from us in Skippack. > They are starting to make plans for their 75th Anniversary. I thought > some > of you may be interested in the history of the club, I was. > > http://www.bluecometmc.com/history.htm > Very interesting. > > The club is looking for new members, so if you live in the area you may > want > to look into it. The Blue Comets are a fairly active club including having > their own dirt track and will be holding some races soon. That would be cool as they are only a few miles from the house. I looked on their calendar and did not see any racing, but they have a race committee. Let us know if you learn anything. Ride Safe, Joe From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 17 14:32:52 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:32:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] (Was: Re: Move Over Law, now taxes and tickets as a revenue stream) References: <26505.1268756828@localhost> <1920235456.16452061268760190448.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <30335.12.181.211.35.1268767447.squirrel@12.181.211.35> <54662.12.181.211.35.1268770878.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: > This is one way that I have used to demonstrate an unstable control loop. > Some cars will oscillate the speed like crazy in a low gear. The SAAB is > not bad, but I have never tried 2nd @ 60! It will do 25 in 3rd all day > long. Much better than I can. > > Ride Safe, > Joe Joe, The cruise control feature on my Mack 660 is a true savior ! Once I get that baby up to 65 and lock it in, I can then concentrate on my evening meal and the sports page .........errrr, I mean the MOA Owners News, of course. Troublemaker From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 17 14:47:50 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:47:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Harley For Sale? References: Message-ID: <2CD7167262584F618A98CF086B0E66EB@dellfe483b726d> > http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62F4J620100316?dbk Jerry Cline Sheezz, Jerry don't scare me like that. For a moment I thought AMF was coming back into the picture. Joe would have sold all his remaining shares if that was the case ! Todd From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Wed Mar 17 15:11:03 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:11:03 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Blue Comets MC Club History In-Reply-To: <762B55BCE213429EB098412D1C4868B3@dellfe483b726d> References: <762B55BCE213429EB098412D1C4868B3@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <4a4431121003170811p3cd742a8vbcb466eacc874b6b@mail.gmail.com> it. The Blue Comets are a fairly active club including having > their own dirt track and will be holding some races soon. ?Are you listening > Marge !! ?They also have poker runs........if you are into that sort of > activity. > > Todd Trumbore Do any of you guys remember a club called "Corsairs" out of Philly? My boss at H-D Quality Audit, Bob Conway, and my Dad's H-D dealer sales rep Bob Jerion were Corsairs. Conway became successful head of H-D racing after Dick O'brien I remember Jerion (now deceased) bought a STEIB sidecar from my dad back in the 80's. ECO Dano From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 17 15:14:28 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:14:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Blue Comets MC Club History References: <762B55BCE213429EB098412D1C4868B3@dellfe483b726d> <22995.12.181.211.35.1268835761.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <5020D1F38F3A4394B93C83BA3165C4E4@dellfe483b726d> >> http://www.bluecometmc.com/history.htm Very interesting. > >> The club is looking for new members, so if you live in the area you may >> want to look into it. The Blue Comets are a fairly active club including >> having >> their own dirt track and will be holding some races soon. > > That would be cool as they are only a few miles from the house. I looked > on their calendar and did not see any racing, but they have a race > committee. Let us know if you learn anything. > > Ride Safe, Joe Joe, We recently held our annual Delaware Valley BMW Riders Banquet and the Blue Comets are always invited to join us with the festivities. Blue Comet member Ron Ketwitz informed the gathering about their upcoming 75th Anniv. plans and that they will be getting back into dirt racing again as they have been so active in the past. I just spoke with Ron and he said the first dirt race will be on May 1st at their own track in Skippack. Since I had him on the phone, I took advantage of the opportunity to sign all the Blue Comet BMW riders up for the "Ride For The Record, Ride For The Cure". He sounded very enthusiastic about the event. Todd From brian at whatever2k.com Wed Mar 17 15:38:28 2010 From: brian at whatever2k.com (Brian Burdette) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:38:28 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <4BA01857.1000403@argolis.org> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP><483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> <4B9FC1EC.5000405@ptd.net> <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> <4BA01857.1000403@argolis.org> Message-ID: <4BA0F774.8050301@whatever2k.com> On 03/16/2010 06:46 PM, Matt Piechota wrote: > Brian Burdette wrote: > >> There's always two ways to fix being broke. >> >> 1. make more money >> 2. spend less money. >> >> A government should always go for option 2 first. > Oh, not what you had in mind? It's easy to say cut spending when you > think they're not going to cut what you care about. > I actually figured we'd start by firing people like you. -- Brian Burdette -- brian at whatever2k dot com -- Pleasant Hill MO, USA From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 17 15:42:37 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:42:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Blue Comets MC Club History References: <762B55BCE213429EB098412D1C4868B3@dellfe483b726d> <4a4431121003170811p3cd742a8vbcb466eacc874b6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <06D32B5391234128B7CB835ACE1D6503@dellfe483b726d> Do any of you guys remember a club called "Corsairs" out of Philly? ECO Dano Dano, Oh yeah, I remember "The Chevy Corsairs" Club............lots of members until that guy Ralph Nader came along. Sorry Dan. The Troublemaker From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Wed Mar 17 15:46:02 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:46:02 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Blue Comets MC Club History In-Reply-To: <06D32B5391234128B7CB835ACE1D6503@dellfe483b726d> References: <762B55BCE213429EB098412D1C4868B3@dellfe483b726d> <4a4431121003170811p3cd742a8vbcb466eacc874b6b@mail.gmail.com> <06D32B5391234128B7CB835ACE1D6503@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <4a4431121003170846m79d4a85cy46267fd7d7acdcba@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > > Do any of you guys remember a club called "Corsairs" out of Philly? > > ECO Dano > > Dano, > Oh yeah, I remember ?"The Chevy Corsairs" Club............lots of members > until that guy Ralph Nader came along. > > Sorry Dan. > > The Troublemaker So I guess that's a "no." Da"no" From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Wed Mar 17 16:46:55 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:46:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Blue Comets MC Club History In-Reply-To: <1704695648.16924641268844138496.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1384888308.16927091268844415256.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >The Blue Comet MC Club is just down the road from us in Skippack. >They are starting to make plans for their 75th Anniversary. I thought some >of you may be interested in the history of the club, I was. > >http://www.bluecometmc.com/history.htm Back when my parents where younger they were members of the "Road Knights Motorcycle Club" they were based out of Philly but had a lot of people centered in Lansdale. They used to hang with members of the Blue Comets, the Hunting Park Sparrows and other nice and friendly motorcycle clubs. Then "The Wild One" came out. People's perceptions of motorcycle riders changed. It wasn't as fun anymore. A lot of riders think that "The Wild One" is a great movie. I was never allowed to watch it, and my father, always one to hold a grudge would never watch a movie with Marlon Brando in it. (He did not scorn Lee Marvin the same way, I do not know why) Shortly after that movie came out "undesirable" people started showing up at club meetings and events. People looking to relive the movie and not just have a good time. Soon after that my parents club went pretty much private and then disbanded and sold the property they owned in Point Pleasant where they used to hold races. It is amazing to me that the Blue Comets were able to survive that long as a viable club. I have been to a couple of their rallies and they are a well run organization, they own property and have a clubhouse. I think, but I am not sure that Stan Myers was a Blue Comet. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Wed Mar 17 16:59:36 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:59:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Blue Comets MC Club History In-Reply-To: <542834502.16932731268845099804.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1097147742.16933521268845176846.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >Do any of you guys remember a club called "Corsairs" out of Philly? My Dad used to have "Cousair" friends as well. Bob Conway's nickname was particularly entertaining. I just meet him at the Old timers banquet a couple of years ago and when I was introduced to him I had no idea who he was until I heard the nickname. They had some great nicknames. Like: Cracker Ass Sanitary Sam (My Dad) Upchuck Audrey (My Mom) Worm Juice and others. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 17 17:09:48 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:09:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Blue Comets MC Club History In-Reply-To: <1097147742.16933521268845176846.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <542834502.16932731268845099804.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1097147742.16933521268845176846.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On 3/17/10, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) heard the nickname. They had some great nicknames. > > Like: > Cracker Ass > Sanitary Sam (My Dad) > Upchuck Audrey (My Mom) > Worm Juice > and others. Ought Oh... I can see a turn being taken. Now will it be good or bad???? This group has SUCH fertile imaginations.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From chrisjac at ptd.net Wed Mar 17 17:10:14 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:10:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Medical Issues...MRI readings Message-ID: <4BA10CF6.1070903@ptd.net> I hesitate to ask, but one never knows with this group. Anyone here have practical training on reading MRI studies of the shoulder? PLEASE do not post additional comments to the list on this subject. Hit me off list if you do. Thanks Chris Jaccarino From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 17 18:55:05 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:55:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Medical Issues...MRI readings References: <4BA10CF6.1070903@ptd.net> Message-ID: <6043583F9AE4464EB3CC5BB49578C687@dellfe483b726d> >I hesitate to ask, but one never knows with this group. Anyone here > have practical training on reading MRI studies of the shoulder? PLEASE > do not post additional comments to the list on this subject. Hit me off list if you do. Thanks Please just don't hit Chris on his shoulder !!!! OK > Chris Jaccarino From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Wed Mar 17 19:11:50 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:11:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Blue Comets MC Club History References: <762B55BCE213429EB098412D1C4868B3@dellfe483b726d> <4a4431121003170811p3cd742a8vbcb466eacc874b6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01a601cac605$b308e080$4001a8c0@FastHP> < Message-ID: <4DF50AA73DE54DF582E5DA547EE90354@dellfe483b726d> > Back when my parents where younger they were members of the "Road Knights > Motorcycle Club" they were based out of Philly but had a lot of people > centered in Lansdale. They used to hang with members of the Blue Comets, > the Hunting Park Sparrows and other nice and friendly motorcycle clubs. John, I heard those " Hunting Park Sparrows" were not to be tangled with. What a reputation they had !! I'm trying to remember, but was it true their bike of choice was the Honda 50 with a straight pipe. > It is amazing to me that the Blue Comets were able to survive that long as > a viable club. I have been to a couple of their rallies and they are a > well run organization, they own property and have a clubhouse. I think, > but I am not sure that Stan Myers was a Blue Comet. Oh yes, they have a club house and the dirt track. Stan Myers I believe was a Blue Comet, of course this was after those rough and tumble days of flying with "The Sparrows". Ok, I'll quit now.......it's time to get some sleep anyway. The Troublemaker > John Clauss From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Wed Mar 17 19:16:21 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:16:21 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Blue Comets MC Club History References: <542834502.16932731268845099804.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><1097147742.16933521268845176846.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <01b101cac606$548dc100$4001a8c0@FastHP> > On 3/17/10, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) > > heard the nickname. They had some great nicknames. >> >> Like: >> Cracker Ass >> Sanitary Sam (My Dad) >> Upchuck Audrey (My Mom) >> Worm Juice >> and others. > > Ought Oh... I can see a turn being taken. Now will it be good or bad???? > > This group has SUCH fertile imaginations.... > Memories not imaginations Members of the DMBC were: Dirty Eddie Tree Top Curlie Long Tall Sally Fuzzy Rat Hole To name a few Marge From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com Wed Mar 17 19:26:19 2010 From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:26:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakfast idea for Saturday Message-ID: If you're not involved in any other event this weekend you could try the March special breakfast at Joanna Furnace Historical site out near Morgantown, PA. You could ride there first (nice country with nice back roads) then couple it with a ride to Hermy's since he is having demo rides all day or even Cycle Max who is having an Open House all this week. Shoot for 9:00am so maybe we'll see each other. Marge will be working the event and I may even get to bring my wife. When we did this last June for Father's Day the food was really great and a fine trip despite the pouring rain. Should be excellent weather this weekend. "A special Irish Breakfast buffet accompanied by the performance of traditional Irish music will highlight this month's activities at historic Joanna Furnace. The event, which runs from 7 a.m. to 11 a.m. on Saturday, March 20, will feature a hearty and wholesome buffet of homemade pancakes, French toast, ham, country sausage, bacon, corned beef hash, baked oatmeal, hash browns, scrambled eggs, toast, tea, coffee, and juice. Admission to the all-you-can-eat spread is $7 for adults, $3.50 for children ages 6 to 11, and free to children 6 and under. The event, sponsored by the Hay Creek Valley Historical Association, also will feature music performed by Hay Creek's "lady of music" Phyllis Hummel. Ms. Hummel, who plays guitar and sings, has been a member of the organization since 1993, is the founder of the annual Christmas at Joanna event, and performs each year at the Hay Creek Festival. Attendees also will get the chance to learn about the site's ongoing restoration projects." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100317/a9aae0bb/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 17 20:35:44 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:35:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT, but eating: And this is why St Patrick got rid of the snakes in Ireland.... Message-ID: http://www.4wdaction.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=81231 http://news.ninemsn.com.au/glance/812876/snake-wolfs-down-large-goanna (Both WS Second claims to be a report from the guy who reportedly took the pics.) Watch out for the snakes with the large bulges. They are PATIENT. I am guessing they don't have problems with heart burn or burping either. Must be heavy duty digestion to get rid of the bones too. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 17 21:44:11 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:44:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Truth that they really did not see you... Message-ID: In the first, if you are below the sightline, you are not seen. This is DEFINITE proof. On a motorcycle we are in SO much trouble.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caPmw3OVQMo On this side of the pond there is this BLIND driver. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/16/worlds-worst-driver-ridic_n_500521.html Both WS. In the second, the driver is obviously getting started on their story SOON. Obviously shoulda been dayglo orange painted rocks! In this case, they drive amongst us... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From 321design at gmail.com Wed Mar 17 22:53:56 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:53:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Second Notice -- Great Slider Ride This Saturday, March 20th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74d2fbe11003171553s4fafeec1j73146c31df2758ad@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > The first of my famous DPRs (Dubious Purpose Rides) has been scheduled > for Saturday, March 20, 2010. This is the day I have chosen to > celebrate my birthday with ?The Great Slider Ride,? a 100-mile (plus) > pilgrimage to the nearest White Castle (in Toms River, New Jersey). Dear Jack, I submit with the greatest regret, my apologies for having to decline your generous offer to celebrate your birthday at White Castle in my home state of New Jersey. The fault is entirely mine alone for although I have a beautiful green BMW motorcycle in my garage, it is alas, currently without a rear drive. Having procrastinated all winter, I waited until only recently to have our own Tom Cutter perform his magic on a threatening leaky seal. (Jim Robinson's generous patience walked me through it's removal). Perhaps someday, I will ride again. Until that time, have a wonderful and safe birthday. Rob -- -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From Ducdude at verizon.net Wed Mar 17 23:53:29 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:53:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Blue Comets MC Club History References: <1097147742.16933521268845176846.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <16C1665AD6154F999C0846CB20C48970@heilveil5e3fdd> >>Do any of you guys remember a club called "Corsairs" out of Philly? > . They had some great nicknames. > > Like: > Cracker Ass > Sanitary Sam (My Dad) > Upchuck Audrey (My Mom) > Worm Juice > and others. > > > John Clauss Yea those names are Ok .... But We have: List NAZI RoboSaaaan Lard Ass Tubby Jumbo Bunt Cake Ducdude Cutter And many many more... Duc From rsorens at comcast.net Thu Mar 18 01:39:22 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:39:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Blue Comets MC Club History In-Reply-To: <16C1665AD6154F999C0846CB20C48970@heilveil5e3fdd> Message-ID: >>>>>Yea those names are Ok .... But We have: List NAZI RoboSaaaan Lard Ass Tubby Jumbo Bunt Cake Ducdude Cutter And many many more.. >>>>> Let's not forget The Empress! From piechota at argolis.org Thu Mar 18 02:07:48 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:07:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Move Over Law In-Reply-To: <4BA0F774.8050301@whatever2k.com> References: <00a101cac4a4$f4f2bd70$4001a8c0@FastHP><483351027.16176771268701976235.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><8296f6de1003151837x7b9129edm5755006c0bc49156@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9336C18B35F7-7EAC-92F@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> <4B9FC1EC.5000405@ptd.net> <4B9FC887.3030805@whatever2k.com> <4BA01857.1000403@argolis.org> <4BA0F774.8050301@whatever2k.com> Message-ID: <4BA18AF4.5010707@argolis.org> Brian Burdette wrote: > On 03/16/2010 06:46 PM, Matt Piechota wrote: >> Brian Burdette wrote: >> >>> There's always two ways to fix being broke. >>> >>> 1. make more money >>> 2. spend less money. >>> >>> A government should always go for option 2 first. > >> Oh, not what you had in mind? It's easy to say cut spending when you >> think they're not going to cut what you care about. >> > > I actually figured we'd start by firing people like you. > Now there's an intelligent response. :) From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 02:43:22 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:43:22 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Blue Comets MC Club History In-Reply-To: <01b101cac606$548dc100$4001a8c0@FastHP> References: <542834502.16932731268845099804.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1097147742.16933521268845176846.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <01b101cac606$548dc100$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: <4a4431121003171943g78047930pca99b418994261a3@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Marge Busch wrote: > > > >> On 3/17/10, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) >> >> heard the nickname. They had some great nicknames. >>> >>> ?Like: >>> ?Cracker Ass >>> ?Sanitary Sam (My Dad) >>> ?Upchuck Audrey (My Mom) >>> ?Worm Juice >>> ?and others. >> >> Ought Oh... ?I can see a turn being taken. ?Now will it be good or bad???? >> >> This group has SUCH fertile imaginations.... >> > Memories not imaginations > Members of the DMBC were: > > Dirty Eddie > Tree Top > Curlie > Long Tall Sally > Fuzzy > Rat Hole > > To name a few > > Marge Rat Hole was Bob Conway's nick name and I think Long Tall Sally was the name for his wife Joyce. Dano From Ducdude at verizon.net Thu Mar 18 10:12:43 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:12:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [Norton AntiSpam] RE: Blue Comets MC Club History References: Message-ID: >>>>>>Yea those names are Ok .... > > But We have: > > List NAZI > RoboSaaaan > Lard Ass > Tubby > Jumbo > Bunt Cake > Ducdude > Cutter > > And many many more.. >>>>>> > > Let's not forget The Empress! > > We only forget the Empress at our own peril!! We also Have Duchess and Duckling So, who did I forget...?? Duc From pasegc at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 12:54:36 2010 From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:54:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Brighter Note Message-ID: Gentlemen: (Only for the day.) A note to each for Birthday wishes. May you each have a wonderful day and enjoy getting older. What are you buying for the Mac-Pac. Riepe is buying White Castle, who is purchasing the Krispy Kreme donuts? Starbucks coffee?? As you may recall my wife shares this day with you and funny thing is so does my dog. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ALL.!!!!!!!! Eric, just to let you know we did not forget your anniversary to the Dutchess, we are just two days late in wishing you both the very best and happiness forever. Gerry Cavanaugh Coatesville, PA From jlburt at jlburt.com Thu Mar 18 13:38:45 2010 From: jlburt at jlburt.com (Jon Burt) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:38:45 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Brighter Note In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201003181339.o2IDd4OK017122@dpmailrp05.doteasy.com> At 07:54 AM 3/18/2010, Gerry Cavanaugh wrote: >Gentlemen: (Only for the day.) >A note to each for Birthday wishes. Same from here. Jon Chicago, IL From jlburt at jlburt.com Thu Mar 18 13:46:54 2010 From: jlburt at jlburt.com (Jon Burt) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:46:54 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Scary bridge crossing - WS Message-ID: <201003181347.o2IDlEfQ022635@dpmailrp05.doteasy.com> Vid of scary bridge crossing on F60. http://tinyurl.com/650brdg or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yjIJ8ibOs8&feature=player_embedded Jon Chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100318/aa1eb908/attachment.html From bradjacoby at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 15:25:40 2010 From: bradjacoby at gmail.com (Brad Jacoby) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:25:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Second Notice -- Great Slider Ride This Saturday, March 20th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <80e3635e1003180825l4339f4efw3d6208af4ee2c72d@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > The first of my famous DPRs (Dubious Purpose Rides) has been scheduled > for Saturday, March 20, 2010. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Chris Jaccarino wrote: > Melinda says she will follow in the car as I take the bike. She > believes it's not a smart idea for me to take the bike when sometimes I > can barely move my arm. Jack, Happy birthday! Jess and I are looking forward to claiming our ceremonial sliders. Unfortunately, though, Jess has been coerced into joining WARG (Women Against Riding Gimps) and will follow in the WARG chase vehicle with Mel. Apparently, Jess's conscience now precludes her from actively taking part in a ride where a man as frail, feeble, and decrepit as Chris is casually allowed to participate at the peril of himself and others. Or something like that... See you Saturday, Brad Jacoby Bethlehem PA 2008 R1200RT From jack.riepe at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 15:59:31 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:59:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Second Notice -- Great Slider Ride This Saturday, March 20th In-Reply-To: <80e3635e1003180825l4339f4efw3d6208af4ee2c72d@mail.gmail.com> References: <80e3635e1003180825l4339f4efw3d6208af4ee2c72d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Brad, You and Jessie have been added to the list. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 16:01:08 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:01:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Second Notice -- Great Slider Ride This Saturday, March 20th In-Reply-To: <74d2fbe11003171553s4fafeec1j73146c31df2758ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <74d2fbe11003171553s4fafeec1j73146c31df2758ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Rob: Don't give this a second thought. I'll be seeing you on the road at some point in the future. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 17:23:03 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:23:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] List Of Riders For Saturday's Great Slider Ride II Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: This is the list of riders I have for the Great Slider Ride on Saturday, March 20th. List For March 20th Ride 1) Braley, Doug 2) Braley, Friend 3) Bregstein, Dick 4) Bruce, Ken (Conditional) 5) Case, Dave 6) Hoet, Erik (Conditional) 7) Irwin, Roddy 8) Jacarrino, Chris 9) Jacobs, Clyde (Conditional, and enroute) 10) Jacoby, Brad 11) Lyba, Corey 12) Mehalik, Mark 13) Riepe, Jack 14) Sestrich, Joe 15) Sterling, Jim (Meeting enroute) Melinda and Jessie riding SAG or in GIMP assist. At the White Castle: a) Don Eilenberger (Possible) b) Harold Gantz c) Tony Luna d) Katherine Riepe, e) JB f) Eileen Riepe g) Ihor Sypko -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jweiss11 at comcast.net Thu Mar 18 17:37:49 2010 From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:37:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] List Of Riders For Saturday's Great Slider Ride II In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <27A69B63164D4D1080A42732DA33B0F7@jackde48df08c6> Hi Jack, I need a good laugh and a ride, plus I needed to piss someone off, so I plan to make the ride and I top posted just to piss someone off. I'll be better on Saturday. Thanks, Jack (OJ) Weiss Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: This is the list of riders I have for the Great Slider Ride on Saturday, March 20th. List For March 20th Ride 1) Braley, Doug 2) Braley, Friend 3) Bregstein, Dick 4) Bruce, Ken (Conditional) 5) Case, Dave 6) Hoet, Erik (Conditional) 7) Irwin, Roddy 8) Jacarrino, Chris 9) Jacobs, Clyde (Conditional, and enroute) 10) Jacoby, Brad 11) Lyba, Corey 12) Mehalik, Mark 13) Riepe, Jack 14) Sestrich, Joe 15) Sterling, Jim (Meeting enroute) Melinda and Jessie riding SAG or in GIMP assist. At the White Castle: a) Don Eilenberger (Possible) b) Harold Gantz c) Tony Luna d) Katherine Riepe, e) JB f) Eileen Riepe g) Ihor Sypko -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." - My Mother, Rita Riepe _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From hgantz at verizon.net Thu Mar 18 19:40:00 2010 From: hgantz at verizon.net (Harold Gantz) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:40:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] List Of Riders For Saturday's Great Slider Ride II In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003101cac6d2$ccb694f0$6623bed0$@net> Jack, Add one more to the list of riders meeting you at the White Castle: Pete Lisko. He's a fellow New Sweden Rider who's been waiting to meet you and check out your bike. He's okay. He rides a K75. -- Harold hgantz at verizon.net > -----Original Message----- > Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: > > This is the list of riders I have for the Great Slider Ride on > Saturday, March 20th. > > At the White Castle: > > a) Don Eilenberger (Possible) > b) Harold Gantz > c) Tony Luna > d) Katherine Riepe, > e) JB > f) Eileen Riepe > g) Ihor Sypko From mrmevans at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 20:43:58 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:43:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] List Of Riders For Saturday's Great Slider Ride II In-Reply-To: <003101cac6d2$ccb694f0$6623bed0$@net> References: <003101cac6d2$ccb694f0$6623bed0$@net> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003181343h185bdffdoa93ac3bef7b6f170@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Harold Gantz wrote: > Jack, > > > He's okay. ?He rides a K75. > And all this time I thought Jack was the only one who had this point of view. I have come to realize that Jack considers the effects a K75 renders on its rider's character in the same vain as the effects large volumes of whiskey have on the attractiveness of the last woman sitting at the bar when the lights come up. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From bergman at panix.com Thu Mar 18 20:58:43 2010 From: bergman at panix.com (bergman at panix.com) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:58:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] List Of Riders For Saturday's Great Slider Ride II In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:43:58 EDT." <8296f6de1003181343h185bdffdoa93ac3bef7b6f170@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003181343h185bdffdoa93ac3bef7b6f170@mail.gmail.com> <003101cac6d2$ccb694f0$6623bed0$@net> Message-ID: <30709.1268945923@localhost> In the message dated: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:43:58 EDT, The pithy ruminations from Michael Evans on were: I am the only one that thinks something with "Slider" in the name is a bad idea for a motorcycle ride? I'd rather keep the bike on the tires, thankyouverymch. => On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Harold Gantz wrote: => > Jack, => > => => > => > He's okay. =A0He rides a K75. => > => => And all this time I thought Jack was the only one who had this point => of view. I have come to realize that Jack considers the effects a K75 => renders on its rider's character in the same vain as the effects large ^^^^ Interesting typo. :) => volumes of whiskey have on the attractiveness of the last woman => sitting at the bar when the lights come up. => [LIGHTS ON] Hey, buddy, what do you mean "woman"!? [LIGHTS OUT] => -- = => => Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA Mark From rsorens at comcast.net Thu Mar 18 21:32:54 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:32:54 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] For the fetishists among us (WS) Message-ID: <12C1C47AC178480F98081D4C758294B1@Tekki> ALLLLLRIGHTY you kinky suckers, here's some motorcycle gear for YOU! http://www.wired.com/reviews/product/pr_fetish_knox_handroid Rick Sorensen R1150GS - Pseudo Adventure "TEKKI" - 'iron knight' R1150GS "KANKU III" - 'to view the sky' -------------------------------------------- "Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing often and for the same reason." Mark Twain From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Fri Mar 19 02:39:27 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:39:27 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] List Of Riders For Saturday's Great Slider Ride II In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4a4431121003181939y1c737140n5a40d1dd460fdee7@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: > > This is the list of riders I have for the Great Slider Ride on > Saturday, March 20th. > > List For March 20th Ride > > 1) Braley, Doug > 2) Braley, Friend > 3) Bregstein, Dick > 4) Bruce, Ken (Conditional) > 5) Case, Dave > 6) Hoet, Erik (Conditional) > 7) Irwin, Roddy > 8) Jacarrino, Chris > 9) Jacobs, Clyde (Conditional, and enroute) > 10) Jacoby, Brad > 11) Lyba, Corey > 12) Mehalik, Mark > 13) Riepe, Jack > 14) Sestrich, Joe > 15) Sterling, Jim (Meeting enroute) > > Melinda and Jessie riding SAG or in GIMP assist. > > > > At the White Castle: > > a) Don Eilenberger (Possible) > b) Harold Gantz > c) Tony Luna > d) Katherine Riepe, > e) JB > f) Eileen Riepe > g) Ihor > Fondest regards, > Jack > The Lindbergh Baby > West Chester, Pa Hey Jack! I want to go see all this spring time joy in person, so I am going to attempt to ride the ECO (K bike powered) up for your B day. Whether I make it or not remains to be seen. But I am heading North in the Morning! Dano From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 19 03:03:06 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:03:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Watch the waiter.... Message-ID: They can be "sneaky" http://entertainment.webshots.com/video/3067504720103416156kDywUG (Stolen from Comedy Central apparently by someone Brazil. WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 19 03:07:10 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:07:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Reported Official statement from the Navy Message-ID: From: Retired U.S Navy Personnel To: The American Public Subj: Position Statement on the U.S. Economy 1. We in retirement take exception to everyone saying that Bernanke, Obama, Reid and Pelosi are spending like drunken sailors. When we were drunken sailors, we quit when we ran out of money. ============== >From "Little Bob". The listed folks have over 500 co-conspirators. Can they be forced onto a 12 step program? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Mar 19 03:23:31 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:23:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] List Of Riders For Saturday's Great Slider Ride II In-Reply-To: <27A69B63164D4D1080A42732DA33B0F7@jackde48df08c6> References: <27A69B63164D4D1080A42732DA33B0F7@jackde48df08c6> Message-ID: Dear Mr. Weiss: You have been added to the list. I look forward to seeing you on Saturday. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From motoedde2 at gmail.com Fri Mar 19 03:46:58 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:46:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy B-Day to Brian Curry Message-ID: Hope you spend the the day on a sweet ride...as the weather was gorgeous. Happy B-Day. edde -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From piechota at argolis.org Fri Mar 19 04:09:06 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:09:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [Norton AntiSpam] RE: Blue Comets MC Club History In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BA2F8E2.8090204@argolis.org> Eric Ducdude wrote: > >>>>>>> Yea those names are Ok .... >> But We have: >> >> List NAZI >> RoboSaaaan >> Lard Ass >> Tubby >> Jumbo >> Bunt Cake >> Ducdude >> Cutter >> >> And many many more.. >> Let's not forget The Empress! >> >> > We only forget the Empress at our own peril!! > > We also Have > Duchess > and > Duckling > > So, who did I forget...?? Me: Matt. :) From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 19 04:14:01 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:14:01 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Canadian "speed control" Message-ID: or reportedly used in "Eastern Canada" http://thefuturewasyesterday.blogspot.com/2009/09/speed-control-devices.html (WS) The comments are interesting. And interesting observation. Just "who's" fault is it when someone suddenly grenades their brakes? I bet the state would not take well to allowing itself to be sued. Here in Pennsylvania they have similar they are just not as easily moved.... Again, THNX Little Bob. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From piechota at argolis.org Fri Mar 19 04:29:58 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:29:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The "Flame licker" engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BA2FDC6.70907@argolis.org> Jim Robinson wrote: > Better yet check out the Boxer configuration flame gulper > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyrWRBoC-2c&feature=related As the comments point out, that's more a scotch yoke than a boxer. The pistons move in the same direction instead of opposite. :) From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Mar 19 04:59:24 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:59:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy B-Day to Brian Curry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There will be a special Birthday "slider" for Brian on Saturday, if he shows. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From wateredg at interlog.com Fri Mar 19 05:08:42 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:08:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Canadian "speed control" References: Message-ID: Hello Brian, From: "Brian Curry" > or reportedly used in "Eastern Canada" > > http://thefuturewasyesterday.blogspot.com/2009/09/speed-control-devices.html > (WS) > > The comments are interesting. And interesting observation. Just > "who's" fault is it when someone suddenly grenades their brakes? I > bet the state would not take well to allowing itself to be sued. > > Here in Pennsylvania they have similar they are just not as easily > moved.... This appears to be a hoax: http://www.hoax-slayer.com/fake-potholes.shtml -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 19 06:20:11 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:20:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The last four minutes of the flight of Air France 447 Message-ID: That is the AF flight that went down in the Atlantic traveling from Brazil to France. German to English translation of a published article http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,679980,00.html =============== The Last Four Minutes of Air France Flight 447 By Gerald Traufetter The crash of Air France flight 447 from Rio to Paris last year is one of the most mysterious accidents in the history of aviation. After months of investigation, a clear picture has emerged of what went wrong. The reconstruction of the horrific final four minutes reveal continuing safety problems in civil aviation. One tiny technical failure heralded the impending disaster. But the measurement error was so inconspicuous that the pilots in the cockpit of the Airbus A330 probably hardly noticed it. ========== Single page display: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,druck-679980,00.html Graphic of the postulated sequence of events: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/bild-679980-63086.html The photo gallery: http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-52202.html All WS. They sure did not find a bunch of big pieces. Ugly story. The pilot was "gaming" the system to "make the flight work." and I suspect with the acquiescence of the corporate folks. It mentions there is a different perspective Airbus to Boeing in flight controls. It also kinda explains why they are struggling to find bits on the ocean floor. Rough terrain and small bits are hard to find. All WS. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From Ducdude at verizon.net Fri Mar 19 10:16:47 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:16:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [Norton AntiSpam] RE: Blue Comets MC Club History References: <4BA2F8E2.8090204@argolis.org> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Piechota" To: "Eric Ducdude" Cc: "Rick Sorensen" ; "'johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)'" ; "'Todd Trumbore'" ; Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] [Norton AntiSpam] RE: Blue Comets MC Club History > Eric Ducdude wrote: >> >>>>>>>> Yea those names are Ok .... >>> But We have: >>> >>> List NAZI >>> RoboSaaaan >>> Lard Ass >>> Tubby >>> Jumbo >>> Bunt Cake >>> Ducdude >>> Cutter >>> >>> And many many more.. >>> Let's not forget The Empress! >>> >>> >> We only forget the Empress at our own peril!! >> >> We also Have Duchess >> and >> Duckling >> >> So, who did I forget...?? > > Me: Matt. :) Oh ye we have Pie Guy,, Duc > From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Mar 19 12:40:17 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:40:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Video on History of BMW by Discovery Message-ID: Very well done and entertaining.........thanks Discovery. http://turbo.discovery.com/beyond/?playerId=245988601&categoryId=1418496841&lineupId=1454906888&titleId=1454865186 From 321design at gmail.com Fri Mar 19 12:56:09 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:56:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Slider ride Message-ID: <74d2fbe11003190556n3179691cm6b661b053e0772b5@mail.gmail.com> Jack, Because of Roddy's generous offer to loan me a bike, I will be joining your ride Saturday. -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Mar 19 12:56:02 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:56:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] History BMW part II Message-ID: <52626915DC78469FB4E2B382FDB67F63@dellfe483b726d> http://turbo.discovery.com/beyond/?playerId=245988601&categoryId=1418496841&lineupId=1454906888&titleId=1454865186 From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Mar 19 13:02:08 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:02:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] History BMW part III Message-ID: <94124D4B659A402C98E6412C3527DEF0@dellfe483b726d> http://turbo.discovery.com/beyond/?playerId=245988601&categoryId=1418496841&lineupId=1454906888&titleId=1454865186 From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Mar 19 13:06:19 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:06:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW History part IV Message-ID: <76C8834E803A47FE82357ACAB1F7E1B0@dellfe483b726d> http://turbo.discovery.com/beyond/?playerId=245988601&categoryId=1418496841&lineupId=1454906888&titleId=1454865186 From piechota at argolis.org Fri Mar 19 13:14:39 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:14:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [Norton AntiSpam] RE: Blue Comets MC Club History In-Reply-To: References: <4BA2F8E2.8090204@argolis.org> Message-ID: <4BA378BF.8010800@argolis.org> Eric Ducdude wrote: >>> So, who did I forget...?? >> >> Me: Matt. :) > > Oh ye we have Pie Guy,, Big Jim. From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Mar 19 13:55:25 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:55:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Slider ride In-Reply-To: <74d2fbe11003190556n3179691cm6b661b053e0772b5@mail.gmail.com> References: <74d2fbe11003190556n3179691cm6b661b053e0772b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Rob: I am honored. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From gary5410 at aol.com Fri Mar 19 14:02:41 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:02:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Slider ride In-Reply-To: References: <74d2fbe11003190556n3179691cm6b661b053e0772b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC9583F948D2AA-8F64-1326@webmail-m096.sysops.aol.com> I getting tired of reading about this ride.........'cause I can't go! :-( Please don't post anymore! Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From kaldewaay at live.com Fri Mar 19 16:23:03 2010 From: kaldewaay at live.com (Kaldewaay) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:23:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Crash bar Message-ID: Dear riders, A friend is looking for a crash bar for his R1100 RS 1996 anybody know were to purchase this? Or have an used one ? Sent from Alain Kaldewaay IPhone From 321design at gmail.com Fri Mar 19 16:42:48 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:42:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Crash bar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74d2fbe11003190942v83bf60ne004f67cd8d71d7f@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Kaldewaay wrote: > Dear riders, > A friend is looking for a crash bar for his R1100 RS 1996 anybody know > were to purchase this? > Or have an used one ? Wrong type and year, but .... CRASH BARS OFF MY 2002 BMW RT POLICE BIKE. http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/1645187055.html -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Mar 19 19:13:30 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:13:30 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Last Minute Slider Ride Details and A Request... Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues; It would appear that the ?Great Slider Ride II? will be the remedy for a long, aggravating winter. Eighteen riders have registered for tomorrow?s run, and no one should be surprised if we are joined by a couple more. This will result in a long line of bikes trying to get through fast traffic lights. My recommendation is that we divide the group in half. Smaller groups will let us ride our own rides, while still providing support in the event someone has a mechanical. ? I?d like a volunteer leader for the second group. A couple of leaders would give us even smaller segments to deal with. I?d appreciate it if someone got back to me. ? I will be at the rallying point early tomorrow (9am) with large-type copies of the route. ? This is my cell number 610-256-0124. ? If you have a GPS, please enter the White Castle?s address (below) into it, in the event you get separated and lost. 132 Route 37 East (or the old name Locust Street East) Toms River, NJ 08753-6646 (732) 505-9463 ? I am buying 56 White Castle Cheeseburgers, which I will hurl into the mob. You are on your own for soft drinks, fries, onion rings and the other stuff they have there. There will be about 25 (plus) people there, and these burgers are the size of aspirin. ? After the festivities, I was thinking of heading to Seaside Park for a view of the ocean. This is approximately 9 miles to the east. There is a biker friendly gin mill at the very end of the main drag before Island Beach State Park. It is Bum Rogers Tavern and Crab House. The address is: 2207 Southwest Central Avenue, Seaside Park, NJ. ? Those interested in Haiggis will be pleased to note that Cameron?s of Kearney is only two miles away from the White Castle, at 284 Brick Boulevard, Brick, New Jersey. (Brick Boulevard is Hooper Avenue.) We could go there too. Starting Details: Rallying Point: Starbucks in Exton, 150 yards east from the intersection of RT. 30 (Business) and Rt. 100. Store Address: 300 Lincoln Highway, Exton, PA - (610) 363-3590 Time: Pre-ride coffee and bullshit - 9:15am; Directions distribution - 9:30am; Saddle-up - 9:55; Kick-stands up - 10am ? As ever, please arrive with a full tank of gas. SPECIAL WELCOME TO MAC PAC?s DOUG BRALEY, WHO RODE UP FROM VIRGINIA FOR THIS TRAVESTY, AND TO ECO DAN, WHO RODE UP FROM NORTH CAROLINA. NO GREATER SACRIFICE WAS EVER MADE FOR A WHITE CASTLE HAMBURGER. A word of caution... We will be passing through Manchester, NJ, Seaside Heights, and Seaside Park. The cops in both Seaside Heights and Seaside Park are total fanatics. They will ticket for any infraction. The speed limit on the main drags in these places is 25 mph. The cops in Manchester (where Route 37 meets Route 70) are incredible bastards, even by Hitler Youth Standards. (I have see them put a road block on Route 37 and stop every vehicle on a Friday night. And I mean all of them.) Tomorrow?s ride should be a pisser. I think we should plan on hitting a couple of real crab shacks this season, and even a run-down dog place too. List of Riders 1) Braley, Doug 2) Braley, Friend 3) Bregstein, Dick 4) Kimi Bush 5) Bruce, Ken (possible) 6) Case, Dave 7) Eco, Dan 8) Haut, Rob 9) Irwin, Roddy 10) Jacarrino, Chris & Melinda 11) Jacobs, Clyde (Conditional, and enroute) 12) Jacoby, Brad & Jessie 13) Lyba, Corey 14) Mehalik, Mark 15) Riepe, Jack 16) Sestrich, Joe 17) Sterling, Jim (Meeting enroute) 18) Jack Weiss -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From piechota at argolis.org Fri Mar 19 21:02:41 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:02:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Last Minute Slider Ride Details and A Request... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BA3E671.6020704@argolis.org> Jack Riepe wrote: > Tomorrow?s ride should be a pisser. I think we should plan on hitting > a couple of real crab shacks this season, and even a run-down dog > place too. I know a couple great hot dog places near Buffalo... From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com Fri Mar 19 21:48:54 2010 From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (hugh mccann) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:48:54 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] The Great Slider Ride of 2010 Message-ID: Happy Birthday Jack, I cannot go so I'll have to find another way to get diarrhea to celebrate the day of your birth. You should be able to attend and host more of these events since only the good die young. Peace from C-ville, Hugh Collegeville, PA 2007 f650GS "Thumper" From david.hardgrove at gmail.com Fri Mar 19 21:49:23 2010 From: david.hardgrove at gmail.com (David Hardgrove) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:49:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] For Sale KL 250 Super Sherpa Message-ID: <454c85ff1003191449k465f3fafj7d46996a109a7e07@mail.gmail.com> For Sale is a 2003 Kawasaki KL 250 Super Sherpa with just under 2600 miles on it. It is identical to the 2009 model as seen on the Kawi web site. I'm asking $1500 for it. Please ping me off list if interested. The bike is located in Malvern. David david.hardgrove at gmail.com From ephoet at gmail.com Sat Mar 20 00:57:44 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:57:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] For the fetishists among us (WS) In-Reply-To: <12C1C47AC178480F98081D4C758294B1@Tekki> References: <12C1C47AC178480F98081D4C758294B1@Tekki> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Rick Sorensen wrote: > ALLLLLRIGHTY you kinky suckers, here's some motorcycle gear for YOU! > > http://www.wired.com/reviews/product/pr_fetish_knox_handroid Interesting. Not much on the website, which is UK primarily. US distributor is INTERNATIONAL - Two-Twenty Motorsports 56844 Mound Road Shelby Twp., Michigan MI 48316 1-888-611-5669 http://www.knoxarmor.com email: n/a EPH From ephoet at gmail.com Sat Mar 20 01:20:58 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:20:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy B-Day to Brian Curry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > There will be a special Birthday "slider" for Brian on Saturday, if he shows. > > > -- > Fondest regards, > Jack Jack; I didn't think a slider was big enough for all those candles! BTW, I should be able to make the ride. Things went well today, I had time to mount rear new brakes pads put on the Honda on top of my medical issues. (The damn oil from last year's BRP leak (gusher?) just could not be removed from the old ones...) And the SO did not have many objections!?! So barring any last minute issues, I'll see you at the Starbucks in Exton. Erik H From jweiss11 at comcast.net Sat Mar 20 02:05:15 2010 From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:05:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] List Of Riders For Saturday's Great Slider Ride II In-Reply-To: References: <27A69B63164D4D1080A42732DA33B0F7@jackde48df08c6> Message-ID: <9DCE9EA58ACB42FF8FFAE4E986C6A5CE@jackde48df08c6> From: Jack Riepe [mailto:jack.riepe at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:24 PM Dear Mr. Weiss: You have been added to the list. I look forward to seeing you on Saturday. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hi Jack, Mr. Weiss is my father :-) I look forward to your eating a birthday slider with you. It will be my first. I hope to not regret it. Jack From jack.riepe at gmail.com Sat Mar 20 02:31:06 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:31:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy B-Day to Brian Curry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Erik: I will be thrilled to see you, as will others. Kickstands up at 10am, at the Starbucks. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Mar 20 10:48:20 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:48:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Have Fun Message-ID: <4BA46FB4.25030.23354500@localhost> Guys, I have out annual work day for the quarter midget racing club today. I will be spending the day with a rake and shovel. I am envious that I won't be able to go on the slider ride. The weather looks perfect. Have a great time. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Mar 20 10:53:48 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:53:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oaklane Lottery Message-ID: <4BA470FC.13849.233A480E@localhost> Hi, It is time again for the Oaklane lottery based fundraiser. The funds raised help support racing at the Oaklane track. This year is an expensive year as we are having the track resurfaced and we need to get ready to host the 2011 Eastern Grand National Championships. Each ticket gives you 13 chances to win $100 and a chance to win $200 from May 2nd to 15th. Tickets are only $5. I will have them at breakfast tomorrow. I appreciate your support. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From tpcutter at aol.com Sat Mar 20 12:14:37 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:14:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] For the fetishists among us (WS) In-Reply-To: References: <12C1C47AC178480F98081D4C758294B1@Tekki> Message-ID: <8CC963E0B68F021-112C-2624@Webmail-m120.sysops.aol.com> Erik" the Dutch Googler" Hoet posted: < wrote:> ALLLLLRIGHTY you kinky suckers, here's some motorcycle gear for YOU!>> http://www.wired.com/reviews/product/pr_fetish_knox_handroidInteresting. Not much on the website, which is UK primarily.US distributor isINTERNATIONAL -Two-Twenty Motorsports56844 Mound RoadShelby Twp., MichiganMI 48316 1-888-611-5669http://www.knoxarmor.comemail: n/a >> Actually, if you want them, contact Brian Van at Sportbike Track Gear. He's a WERA racer and has a really great company to do business with. Don't know what size you need? Brian will send you a few pairs to try and return what you don't like. Two years ago he sent me five sets of race leathers to try before we found what I liked. Brian stocks the whole line of Knox gloves, and has a slick video demonstration of them (not that annoying BS that Knox has) http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Categories.bok?category=Motorcycle+Gloves:KNOX+Armor --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? -----Original Message----- From: Erik Hoet To: Rick Sorensen Cc: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Sent: Fri, Mar 19, 2010 8:57 pm Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] For the fetishists among us (WS) On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Rick Sorensen wrote:> ALLLLLRIGHTY you kinky suckers, here's some motorcycle gear for YOU!>> http://www.wired.com/reviews/product/pr_fetish_knox_handroidInteresting. Not much on the website, which is UK primarily.US distributor isINTERNATIONAL -Two-Twenty Motorsports56844 Mound RoadShelby Twp., MichiganMI 48316 1-888-611-5669http://www.knoxarmor.comemail: n/aEPH_______________________________________________Mac-pac-l mailing listMac-pac-l at jtan.comhttp://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Mar 20 21:39:11 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:39:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Garmin Street Pilot Question Message-ID: <4BA5083F.28929.258924EB@localhost> I inherited a Garmin Street Pilot c330 at Christmas. It came w/o a SD card. Some of the internal maps near my house have mistakes (road missing). I believe I can store maps on it from my Map Source software. The only issue is it does not have an SD card. Can I put any SD card in there? I probably only want to put in a few maps. What size card should I buy? Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From kdgregory at yahoo.com Sat Mar 20 22:37:47 2010 From: kdgregory at yahoo.com (Keith D Gregory) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Yet another use for a S1000RR In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <260323.54050.qm@web56404.mail.re3.yahoo.com> http://www.flixxy.com/bmw-s-1000-rr-superbike.htm From mjcantwe at gmail.com Sun Mar 21 00:51:58 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:51:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Garmin Street Pilot Question In-Reply-To: <4BA5083F.28929.258924EB@localhost> References: <4BA5083F.28929.258924EB@localhost> Message-ID: <8bafeb801003201751leda1759g7bfbe3324d9bf171@mail.gmail.com> Joe, I found some information on this at the Garmin website. Here's the link; http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/site/us/support/searchsupport?search_key=StreetPilot%20c330 also, here are some other links to manuals and stuff for the c330... https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/manual.jsp?product=010-00401-10&cID=164&pID=6385 You can get SD cards almost anywhere digi cameras are sold. Check out Walmart. Hope this helps, Cheers, Michael On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Joe Dille wrote: > I inherited a Garmin Street Pilot c330 at Christmas. ?It came w/o a > SD card. ?Some of the internal maps near my house have mistakes (road > missing). ?I believe I can store maps on it from my Map Source > software. ?The only issue is it does not have an SD card. > > Can I put any SD card in there? > > I probably only want to put in a few maps. ?What size card should I > buy? From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Mar 21 02:45:13 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:45:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Garmin Street Pilot Question In-Reply-To: <8bafeb801003201751leda1759g7bfbe3324d9bf171@mail.gmail.com> References: <4BA5083F.28929.258924EB@localhost> Message-ID: <4BA54FF9.21255.26A154FA@localhost> > Joe, > I found some information on this at the Garmin website. Here's the > link; > http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/site/us/support/searchsupport?search_ > key=StreetPilot%20c330 > > also, here are some other links to manuals and stuff for the c330... > https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/manual.jsp?product=010-00401-10&cID= > 164&pID=6385 > > You can get SD cards almost anywhere digi cameras are sold. Check out > Walmart. > Mike, Thanks. I read the manual, and the online manual. It said it used an SD, but did not give the details. I did not think of looking to their knowledge base. It was right here: http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/site/us/support/searchsupport?search_ key=StreetPilot%20c330 The answer is ... 2GB about $12 Thanks, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From wayne at 2zars.com Sat Mar 20 01:56:32 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:56:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ride For The Cure, Ride For The Record, 2 May 2010 9 am In-Reply-To: <3D454DDD794043498137CD9F5D1C322E@dellfe483b726d> References: <3D454DDD794043498137CD9F5D1C322E@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <2la8q5p9ovbvo3cvgen9u6js6fshtnjlnr@4ax.com> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:19:33 -0500, you wrote: >Ride For The Cure, Ride For The Record >Sunday 2 May 2010, 9 am held at: > >Montgomeryville Cycle Center >2901 Bethlehem Pike ( Rt. 309 ) >Hatfield, PA 19440 >215-712-7433 Todd, I spoke with Bob Jones this evening at the MCC open hours about this. He said: "I'm not an email guy, I don't read or send many emails, but I must have gotten 150 emails on this event. I told the hot dog vendor to double the order. I think this is going to be big" Let's prove him right :-) Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From bmwdick at gmail.com Wed Mar 17 19:35:52 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:35:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Medical Issues...MRI readings In-Reply-To: <4BA10CF6.1070903@ptd.net> References: <4BA10CF6.1070903@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Chris wrote: > I hesitate to ask, but one never knows with this group. ?Anyone here > have practical training on reading MRI studies of the shoulder? ?PLEASE > do not post additional comments to the list on this subject. ?Hit me off > list if you do. ?Thanks > > > Chris Jaccarino > Chris: With this group you're lucky to find someone who can read -- period! -- BMW-Dick u?op ?p?sdn pl?o? ?? p?u?n? s?? ???qO From bmwdick at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 13:10:55 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:10:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] HAPPY BIRTHDAY Message-ID: Brian: You can thank Brother Cavanaugh for reminding us that you were born and did not spring from the ether like some mythological spoon-carrying creature. If I had thought of it I would have baked a bundt cake (with a really large hole in the middle). Best wishes for a happy day. You still have a ways to go to catch up with me. -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100318/a56373bc/attachment.html From kimi.bush at gmail.com Sun Mar 21 12:54:33 2010 From: kimi.bush at gmail.com (Kimi Bush) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:54:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC Road Marshal Opportunity!! Message-ID: Mac-Pac Friends: Check your calendars! July 24th and 25th will be the weekend of the MS150: PA Dutch Ride! For those of you who don't know, this is a charity bicycle event that benefits the Delaware Valley and Central PA chapters of the National Multiple Sclerosis Society. MOTORCYCLE MARSHALS are a big part of the safety and organization of the ride. This will be the third year that Corey and I are helping to plan the event and we need YOUR help to make sure that everything goes safely and smoothly on the weekend of the ride! --If you already know what I'm talking about and want to register now, use this link to get to the online registration form: (You'll need your driver's license and bike insurance info when you register.) http://main.nationalmssociety.org/padrm --If anyone participated in the past, but can't be there this year, your testimonials and help with recruitment would be very much appreciated. --If you want to help out but won't be around on the weekend of the event, we could really use your assistance with recruitment! Here's a link to flier with the information, please consider distributing and displaying this anywhere you go where motorcyclists frequent: http://bikepae.nationalmssociety.org/site/DocServer/Road_Marshal_Flyer_09.pdf?docID=38083 --If you need some more details for yourself: Saturday and Sunday July 24th and 25th (seeking volunteers for either or both days) Saturday morning the event starts at Green Lane park in Perkiomenville and ends Saturday (before dinner-time) at Millersville University The duty of a marshal includes helping bicyclists if they run into trouble (like if they need to call one of the support groups, i.e. medic, bicycle repair van, sag wagon) and also standing at various pre-determined road junctions and directing bicycle traffic (letting the cyclists know if cars are coming, etc) ?Instruction is given on Saturday morning, no experience is necessary, if I can do it anyone can! ?You get to ride a lot too. There are plenty of free snacks, lunch, and drinks throughout the day, free dinner is served sat. evening in the Millersville cafeteria. ?There is a nice awards ceremony at MU and there is usually free beer to be had. ?For those who are volunteering on both Saturday and Sunday, very nice accommodations are provided on the MU campus, also free of charge. Sunday morning the event resumes, leaving from MU campus and heading back to Green Lane park. ?The schedule and tasks are pretty much the same. ?There's more food and celebration at Green Lane when the event finishes. Bicyclists will be riding 50, 75 or 100 mile courses on each day and trust me, they really need our support and assistance to do so successfully. Thanks Everyone! Kimi Bush Kimi.bush at gmail.com 610-223-9227 From BMWMOAMARS at aol.com Sun Mar 21 13:40:18 2010 From: BMWMOAMARS at aol.com (BMWMOAMARS at aol.com) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:40:18 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Good Food on a scenic road and a great museum Message-ID: <70dc7.5ec79f9d.38d77bc2@aol.com> Pacer's, As one who has too many fingers in too many pies, I am fortunate to sometimes be involved in too many activities. So many that I realized that last year I rode 0 miles, and both the rt100 and r100 are still sitting with their tail lights removed from my LED lighting research and development project I started two years ago. That be said I'd like to report out on two recent visits that may be of interest. I know there's a premise of 'eat to ride and ride to eat...so I'd like to add to that list. If you're heading north on Rt 100 in Boyertown, take the Farmington Ave Exit and turn left onto Farmington Ave. As it winds through the countryside you'll see Fisherman's Paradise, and that's the parking lot for Cafe on the Lake. They have a weekend breakfast starting at 8am and delicious food. And if you like BBQ and smoked dishes (I had the pit smoked beef brisket,mmmmmmm) this is a must visit. Say hi to Ray or Michele, they are incredibly friendly and accommodating. Here's the web site http://www.dineindie.com/cafeonthelake Proudly serving: Ironstone Creek Barbecue. Authentic Southern Hardwood BBQ is our passion at Cafe on the Lake Cafe on the Lake Southern Hardwood BBQ 2289 Farmington Avenue Boyertown, PA 19512 610-367-2208 OK, item number two, the great museum. It's called the Three Dog Garage Museum in Boyertown. You have to make an appointment to tour the museum, so it's best to do a group thing, and it's way cool. There is only one motorcycle in the museum, a 1948 HD Knucklehead side hack, but the nostalgic manner in which the museum is set up along with its collectible Ford race cars such as the "King Cobra", the Lola chassis that served as the development of the legendary Ford GT40 and a collection of Ford Trans-Am race cars (GT350's, Cougars, Falcons) plus a lineup of IMSA Mustangs, and a hot rod collection of wonderful eye candy that includes a Ford Coupe deemed "First Love" that won the Riddler award, supposedly the highest honor in hot rodding, this private collection of Ross Meyers is worth the visit. Alot about 2 hours to drool and ask questions. www.3dog.org Time to edit my photos... That's all folks, Dave the bleeder '66 S90 '81 R100 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100321/efe07235/attachment.html From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Mar 21 20:28:44 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:28:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oaklane L0ttery Message-ID: <4BA6493C.27994.2A6EDD5C@localhost> > Hi, > > It is time again for the Oaklane lottery based fundraiser. The funds > raised help support racing at the Oaklane track. This year is an > expensive year as we are having the track resurfaced and we need to > get ready to host the 2011 Eastern Grand National Championships. > > Each ticket gives you 13 chances to win $100 and a chance t0 win $200 > from May 2nd to 15th. Tickets are only $5. I will have them at > breakfast tomorrow. I appreciate your support. > I want to thank all of you that purchased Oaklane l0ttery tickets. I was overwhelmed with the mac-pac support. I hope we have another winner in the group this time. As always, you are all welcome to come up to Oaklane and watch the races. We race almost every Saturday from mid April to mid-October from 1:30 to 10:30. Matt races at least four times a night so you are almost guaranteed to see him race. This is the perfect place to bring your kid, grand kid, step kid, the neighbor's kid or even the dog. It was great seeing everyone today. The bikes today were great, the cosmic ECO, the RZ 350 and Karl's Red and Blue Harley. The weather was great. Spring is here for sure. I almost hit two robins! Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From rogers.george at gmail.com Sun Mar 21 21:48:37 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:48:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC electric question Message-ID: <1f13c3621003211448t5300b4a5ge6a28ccda1e69abd@mail.gmail.com> As some of you might remember, I had a 1 mph collision last fall that trashed my fairing. I'm replacing it now. The black bed-liner coating looks nice. I have another problem that might be related. I was able to ride the bike home, but it wouldn't shut off when I arrived. I finally disconnected the battery. As part of the fairing operation, I checked the electric. Everything seems fine. No potential between the batter neg and the frame. Visual inspection shows no wear, kinks, loose ends, or anything like that. I connect the neg wires (ground and two accessory connectors) and everything seems fine. The volt meter reads zero. So I experimentally turned the key. I heard a click in the headlight housing, it sounded like, the light came on, and the volt meter rose to 12. I turned the key back off, and nothing happened. meter still at 12, light still lit. I disconnected the battery, and when I did, I heard that click again, and everything returned to zero. Reattach the wires, still zero. Turn the key, 12 volts, won't shut off. I unplugged the relay on the left. tried the hookup-key turn thing, same symptoms. I see no damaged insulation in there, but some black specs around the top left terminal on the circuit board. Photo available if it'll help. What's wrong, and how do I fix it? Best wishes, Rogers George Newark, DE http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http://serenitytravelnewark.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100321/f1dfe946/attachment.html From tpcutter at aol.com Sun Mar 21 22:14:59 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:14:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC electric question In-Reply-To: <1f13c3621003211448t5300b4a5ge6a28ccda1e69abd@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f13c3621003211448t5300b4a5ge6a28ccda1e69abd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC975B13BC784E-1548-2CE8A@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com> <> The diode failed in the headlight relay. Replace the relay. That diagnosis usually costs $75. You can mail the $ to a charity. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? -----Original Message----- From: Rogers George To: Philly bmw list Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2010 5:48 pm Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC electric question As some of you might remember, I had a 1 mph collision last fall thattrashed my fairing. I'm replacing it now. The black bed-liner coating looksnice.I have another problem that might be related. I was able to ride the bikehome, but it wouldn't shut off when I arrived. I finally disconnected thebattery. As part of the fairing operation, I checked the electric.Everything seems fine. No potential between the batter neg and the frame.Visual inspection shows no wear, kinks, loose ends, or anything like that. Iconnect the neg wires (ground and two accessory connectors) and everythingseems fine. The volt meter reads zero. So I experimentally turned the key. Iheard a click in the headlight housing, it sounded like, the light came on,and the volt meter rose to 12. I turned the key back off, and nothinghappened. meter still at 12, light still lit. I disconnected the battery,and when I did, I heard that click again, and everything returned to zero.Reattach the wires, still zero. Turn the key, 12 volts, won't shut off. Iunplugged the relay on the left. tried the hookup-key turn thing, samesymptoms. I see no damaged insulation in there, but some black specs aroundthe top left terminal on the circuit board. Photo available if it'll help.What's wrong, and how do I fix it?Best wishes,Rogers GeorgeNewark, DEhttp://mushroomstomotorcycles.comhttp://writing-rag.comhttp://rogersgeo rge.comhttp://serenitytravelnewark.com-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100321/f1dfe946/attachment.html _______________________________________________Mac-pac-l mailing listMac-pac-l at jtan.comhttp://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From rogers.george at gmail.com Mon Mar 22 00:03:50 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:03:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] What happens when you don't ride Message-ID: <1f13c3621003211703w515908e5rf13cc158023b790b@mail.gmail.com> The horrifying news is on my blog. Spoiler: For those of you who don't care to leave the list, it's a photo of my wife's helmet with a bird nest in it. I think it's a wren's. Best wishes, Rogers George Newark, DE http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com <---here------------ http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http://serenitytravelnewark.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100321/772b811a/attachment.html From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Mar 22 01:08:11 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:08:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Little known fact Message-ID: <4BA68ABB.2925.2B6EB4E8@localhost> I recently needed to get several capicitors to fix the alarm in my SAAB. They were three fairly common electrolytic capacitors. They were cheap, like $0.20 each. The total for the three was $0.65. The Digikey corporation http://wwwdigikey.com has a policy that they waive the already reasonable shipping charge is you fill out an order form and mail them a check. So I printed out: http://pdfcatalog.digikey.com/US2010/order.pdf Then made out a check for 65 cents and mailed it in. I got my parts the other day, no problem. The whole transaction cost me $1.09. Very cool. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 22 01:47:24 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:47:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: A Global Village Message-ID: and NO, it is not Hillary's!!! some interesting stats that are not sourced. I suspect they are at least generally right. Good admonitions though. Should start you thinking. Anyone in the US is incredibly lucky. Most folks in the Western world are incredibly lucky. There are LOTs of unlucky people. :(:( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/boomersinternational/attachments/folder/853459972/item/list http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/general-videos/27405-the-global-village-the-world-one.html http://bluecrabnetwork.com/ All of them will end you up at the same file. This has no sound. I got one with sound. IMO, not a deal breaker and no sound is smaller. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA?? | Brian Curry??????????|??????Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER"????????|??????Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts?? |??????Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA?? |??????http://www.nsevideos.com From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com Mon Mar 22 12:05:02 2010 From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P Reminderbot) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:05:02 +0000 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Annual Gassing Day gathering , April 3 Saturday Message-ID: <979943.943766074-sendEmail@aria> April 3, 2010 - Gassing Day Gathering, Quentin, PA The Pennsylvania Airheads and the Mac-Pac will start the season with a Gassing Day lunch gathering in Quentin, PA. Peter Egan once wrote of Gassing Day: "One by one, I started up four motorcycles and took them to the gas station to put new fuel in their tanks. I got all the bikes gassed up, but when the job was done I felt somehow incomplete. It seemed a day as significant as the firing up and fueling of motorcycles in the spring should be accompanied by some sort of gala festival or solemn ceremony to commemorate the moment." We'll commemorate the moment at 1:00pm EDST at the Quentin Haus Restaurant, (717) 272-6475, at the intersection of PA Rte 72 and Rte 419. This location is east of Harrisburg and south of Lebanon, PA. This is also just north of PA Turnpike Exit 266. Let me know if you're coming so I can reserve tables. We can enjoy lunch then sun ourselves in the parking lot until it's time to roll. If the weather is still wintery, bring the car. People are more important than motorcycles. From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Mar 22 12:27:19 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:27:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Did you ever consider the half-life of a slider? Message-ID: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,589742,00.html -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From royer.scott at gmail.com Sun Mar 21 23:40:10 2010 From: royer.scott at gmail.com (Scott Royer) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:40:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Happy B-Day to Brian Curry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10b68dab1003211640g72266968qe15597ca80aef984@mail.gmail.com> ok - so how old is he, anyway? On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > There will be a special Birthday "slider" for Brian on Saturday, if he shows. > > > -- > Fondest regards, > Jack > The Lindbergh Baby > West Chester, Pa > > "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still > have to be nice to them, at first." > ? My Mother, Rita Riepe > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From mmehalik at gmail.com Mon Mar 22 13:23:46 2010 From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:23:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Did you ever consider the half-life of a slider? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >From my independent testing this weekend, a single slider has a halflife of about 2 hours. Barely. -mark On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Dick wrote: > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,589742,00.html > > -- > BMW-Dick > "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Mon Mar 22 13:56:23 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:56:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Did you ever consider the half-life of a slider? In-Reply-To: <281075477.1397921269265999603.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1372369979.1399471269266183580.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,589742,00.html > I bit. I read the 6 line article on Foxnews, then the same exact thing on NY Post, then I went to the "nutritionist" website whose link was in the article. I could find no mention of the study. But I could join her group, for a fee. As a science oriented person crap like this drives me crazy, do I doubt it? No, reference to experimental conditions. How many trials, what was the control, any other variables? This is a great example of poor reporting. Shame on the Post, but who doesn't expect that, shame on Foxnews for picking it up without expansion or elaboration. But on the upside it was presented in a fair and balanced way. :) John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From bmwbrian at voicenet.com Mon Mar 22 17:35:05 2010 From: bmwbrian at voicenet.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:35:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Be prepared to be chased bown by a BMW car Message-ID: engine: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aCO8Mt6m43HU This will be the shell: http://www.carbonmotors.com/ -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From mjcantwe at gmail.com Mon Mar 22 18:03:07 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:03:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Did you ever consider the half-life of a slider? In-Reply-To: <1372369979.1399471269266183580.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <281075477.1397921269265999603.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1372369979.1399471269266183580.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <8bafeb801003221103q79cd511fie2c249fdf704e9c2@mail.gmail.com> In the 2004 documentary "Super Size Me" they did an experiment like this. I believe this is the excerpt from the film.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on6BSfHlK_w From piechota at argolis.org Mon Mar 22 18:29:08 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:29:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Be prepared to be chased bown by a BMW car In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BA7B6F4.2000509@argolis.org> Brian Curry wrote: > engine: > > http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aCO8Mt6m43HU > > This will be the shell: > http://www.carbonmotors.com/ > Interesting, I'll have to commit that shape to memory. :) The logo is treading awfully close to Renault though. http://www.renault.com/ (WS, cars) From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 22 18:46:02 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:46:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Did you ever consider the half-life of a slider? In-Reply-To: <8bafeb801003221103q79cd511fie2c249fdf704e9c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <281075477.1397921269265999603.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1372369979.1399471269266183580.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8bafeb801003221103q79cd511fie2c249fdf704e9c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/22/10, Michael Cantwell wrote: > In the 2004 documentary "Super Size Me" they did an experiment like > this. I believe this is the excerpt from the film.... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on6BSfHlK_w Maybe that explains those that can evacuate a room with a fart that died. They don't digest their food, they rot it. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From piechota at argolis.org Mon Mar 22 23:35:10 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:35:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Be careful out there; rider down Message-ID: <4BA7FEAE.4020509@argolis.org> I just want to remind everyone on the list to be careful today. A friend of mine died Sunday night in a motorcycle crash in Buffalo. I don't really have any details other than he rear-ended a car on the highway and was thrown from the bike; the bike crashed into the guard rail and burst into flames. We all know that riding is an inherently dangerous past-time. I think there's a ying and yang that the risk is a little of what makes you feel alive while riding. Just remember to manage that risk and be aware of your surroundings. -Matt From itsabmw at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 00:29:00 2010 From: itsabmw at gmail.com (pj rose) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:29:00 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT Message-ID: Howdy y'all, I am having a bit of trouble with my speedo, (speedometer that is...). The trouble I'm having is ... it's not working. I believe the speedo works at the instrument because I just got it back from Hollywood Speedo, (thanks for the info Tom.) I recently had my final drive rebuilt also (thanks again Tom) and replaced the sensor with a used unit. Is there a way to check the used sensor? Is there a fuse or some connection I should be checking? Ground under the tank has been done to death and all connections that I know of have recently been cleaned and dielectric greased. I believe my problem lies in the sensor or some dinked up connection. In addition I am having sporadic problems with my brake system check light. Is there a failure point that links these two systems or am I dealing with two completely separate problems. ANY help or relating experience with the same problem is appreciated. Thanks in advance rozarkie 85K100RT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100322/804f18c7/attachment.html From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Tue Mar 23 01:04:13 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:04:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC Road Marshal Opportunity!! References: Message-ID: <8F3B022B8E4047B19C3056E4081646C6@home.robinson.org> ----- Original Message ----- From: Kimi Bush Mac-Pac Friends: Check your calendars! July 24th and 25th will be the weekend of the MS150: PA Dutch Ride! For those of you who don't know, this is a charity bicycle event that benefits the Delaware Valley and Central PA chapters of the National Multiple Sclerosis Society. MOTORCYCLE MARSHALS are a big part of the safety and organization of the ride. This will be the third year that Corey and I are helping to plan the event and we need YOUR help to make sure that everything goes safely and smoothly on the weekend of the ride! --If you already know what I'm talking about and want to register now, use this link to get to the online registration form: (You'll need your driver's license and bike insurance info when you register.) http://main.nationalmssociety.org/padrm --If anyone participated in the past, but can't be there this year, your testimonials and help with recruitment would be very much appreciated. --If you want to help out but won't be around on the weekend of the event, we could really use your assistance with recruitment! Here's a link to flier with the information, please consider distributing and displaying this anywhere you go where motorcyclists frequent: http://bikepae.nationalmssociety.org/site/DocServer/Road_Marshal_Flyer_09.pdf?docID=38083 --If you need some more details for yourself: Saturday and Sunday July 24th and 25th (seeking volunteers for either or both days) Saturday morning the event starts at Green Lane park in Perkiomenville and ends Saturday (before dinner-time) at Millersville University The duty of a marshal includes helping bicyclists if they run into trouble (like if they need to call one of the support groups, i.e. medic, bicycle repair van, sag wagon) and also standing at various pre-determined road junctions and directing bicycle traffic (letting the cyclists know if cars are coming, etc) Instruction is given on Saturday morning, no experience is necessary, if I can do it anyone can! You get to ride a lot too. There are plenty of free snacks, lunch, and drinks throughout the day, free dinner is served sat. evening in the Millersville cafeteria. There is a nice awards ceremony at MU and there is usually free beer to be had. For those who are volunteering on both Saturday and Sunday, very nice accommodations are provided on the MU campus, also free of charge. Sunday morning the event resumes, leaving from MU campus and heading back to Green Lane park. The schedule and tasks are pretty much the same. There's more food and celebration at Green Lane when the event finishes. Bicyclists will be riding 50, 75 or 100 mile courses on each day and trust me, they really need our support and assistance to do so successfully. Thanks Everyone! Kimi Bush Kimi.bush at gmail.com 610-223-9227 _______________________________________________ What you forgot to mention Kimi was that unlike previous years there is no BMW Rally's going on that weekend either. I will either be riding in it, or MotoMarshalling for it. I haven't decided which one I'm doing yet. Jim Robinson West Chester PA From Braveirwin at aol.com Tue Mar 23 01:12:28 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:12:28 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC Road Marshal Opportunity!! Message-ID: In a message dated 3/22/2010 9:04:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net writes: What you forgot to mention Kimi was that unlike previous years there is no BMW Rally's going on that weekend either. I will either be riding in it, or MotoMarshalling for it. I haven't decided which one I'm doing yet. ============================================= But it does fall on the same weekend as Father Folk acoustic music picnic and camp out at my farm. It did last year too. But that's all right; Friday evening is usually a very nice roster of performers too. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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ECO Dano Greensboro NC From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Tue Mar 23 11:40:11 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:40:11 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] 90K miles on ECO In-Reply-To: <4a4431121003221957s7c86bf8fh9087331d85b56f61@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121003221957s7c86bf8fh9087331d85b56f61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49882.64.8.61.98.1269344411.squirrel@64.8.61.98> > The silver ECO (BMW powered enclosed streamlined 2 wheeler with > landing gear) is on target to be the first USA based ECO to break the > 100K mile barrier . > > The thousand mile round trip to Jack's slider run put her over the 90K > mark. > > She ran strong (must be getting fully broken in now) and showed her > heels to some fast cars from Roanoke Va. down twisty 220 to Greensboro > NC. > > Super fun trip!! > > Dan, Congratulations on passing the 90k milestone. Ride Safe, Joe From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Tue Mar 23 11:51:49 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:51:49 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49891.64.8.61.98.1269345109.squirrel@64.8.61.98> > Howdy y'all, > > I am having a bit of trouble with my speedo, (speedometer that is...). > The > trouble I'm having is ... it's not working. I believe the speedo works at > the instrument because I just got it back from Hollywood Speedo, (thanks > for > the info Tom.) I recently had my final drive rebuilt also (thanks again > Tom) and replaced the sensor with a used unit. Is there a way to check > the > used sensor? Is there a fuse or some connection I should be checking? > I have had this problem on my K100. The spedometer works with a circuit that counts electrical pulses that come off the rear wheel sensor. Both the sensor and the electronics are probably good. The problem lies in the connection between the two. There are three connections: One on the frame near the passengers right knee on the wire that comes off the speed sensor I had this connection go. The wires failed to make connection with the connectors. This was tricky to fined. However a little solder did the trick. One from the main harness to the instrument cluster. This one is probably OK. The last one is inside the speedometer. There is a header connector that goes to the electronic circuit. This goes bad often. You need to take the speedo apart and tighten this connection. (This is the connection that will come back to life if you knock on the speedo with your knuckle.) The speedometer sensor can go bad if it gets some "swarf" on it from the drive. Clean with a rag. It also needs to go all the way into the housing. You can test the circuit by waving a wrench near the sensor, or placing a soldering iron neet it. More infoprmation on the IBMWR.org FAQ section. Ride Safe, Joe From itsabmw at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 13:34:57 2010 From: itsabmw at gmail.com (pj rose) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 08:34:57 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: <49891.64.8.61.98.1269345109.squirrel@64.8.61.98> References: <49891.64.8.61.98.1269345109.squirrel@64.8.61.98> Message-ID: Hi Joe, Thanks for responding. > One on the frame near the passengers right knee on the wire that comes off > the speed sensor I had this connection go. The wires failed to make > connection with the connectors. This was tricky to fined. However a > little solder did the trick. > The sensor to the plug is the one I suspect. Pardon my ignorance, but if I remove this sensor can I check it with an ohmmeter or is there a better way to check this. In addition, will "any" sensor work or is this sensor specific for the year. I believe the plugs were different but the wires were the same color. I would like to isolate the three parts of the system because I've touched everything on this bike in the last 24 months. With the rebuilt instrument cluster I am ruling that part out for now. > > One from the main harness to the instrument cluster. This one is probably > OK. > On my old cluster the speedo and odo hadn't worked for at least two years and I assumed it was the unit but then started having some weird issues which made me wonder whether this connection wasn't the culprit. It was almost as if the entire left side of the cluster was out. I wasn't getting fuel level indicators, speedo / odo didn't work and then the sporadic brake light check. At times, while riding, applying the front brake will cause the check light to come back on and then clear. Always the front brake though. > > The speedometer sensor can go bad if it gets some "swarf" on it from the > drive. Clean with a rag. It also needs to go all the way into the > housing. > I will do all these also. > > You can test the circuit by waving a wrench near the sensor, or placing a > soldering iron neet it. More infoprmation on the IBMWR.org FAQ section. > Again sorry for being ignorant about this but when you say wave the wrench I understand we're breaking the field to register a "ping" but how do I measure to see if the ping is there? Do I leave the sensor plugged in and turn the key on and wave the wrench, or use a non-digital meter on the unplugged end? I will check the faq's again also. Thanks again. pjr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100323/27d132f9/attachment.html From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Tue Mar 23 13:57:47 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:57:47 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: References: <49891.64.8.61.98.1269345109.squirrel@64.8.61.98> Message-ID: <50443.64.8.61.98.1269352667.squirrel@64.8.61.98> > Hi Joe, Thanks for responding. > > >> One on the frame near the passengers right knee on the wire that comes >> off >> the speed sensor I had this connection go. The wires failed to make >> connection with the connectors. This was tricky to fined. However a >> little solder did the trick. >> > The sensor to the plug is the one I suspect. Pardon my ignorance, but if > I > remove this sensor can I check it with an ohmmeter or is there a better > way > to check this. In addition, will "any" sensor work or is this sensor > specific for the year. I believe the plugs were different but the wires > were the same color. > I don't know for sure, but I would think any 2-wire variable reluctance sensor should work. > I would like to isolate the three parts of the system because I've touched > everything on this bike in the last 24 months. With the rebuilt > instrument > cluster I am ruling that part out for now. > Trust nothing. >> >> One from the main harness to the instrument cluster. This one is >> probably >> OK. >> > On my old cluster the speedo and odo hadn't worked for at least two years > and I assumed it was the unit but then started having some weird issues > which made me wonder whether this connection wasn't the culprit. It was > almost as if the entire left side of the cluster was out. I wasn't > getting > fuel level indicators, speedo / odo didn't work and then the sporadic > brake > light check. At times, while riding, applying the front brake will cause > the check light to come back on and then clear. Always the front brake > though. > >> >> The speedometer sensor can go bad if it gets some "swarf" on it from the >> drive. Clean with a rag. It also needs to go all the way into the >> housing. >> > I will do all these also. > >> >> You can test the circuit by waving a wrench near the sensor, or placing >> a >> soldering iron neet it. More infoprmation on the IBMWR.org FAQ section. >> > Again sorry for being ignorant about this but when you say wave the wrench > I > understand we're breaking the field to register a "ping" but how do I > measure to see if the ping is there? The sensor is little more than a magnet with a coil around it. Just like a guitar pickup. When a piece of steel gets close to the magnet the field changes, which induces a cuttent in the coil. The current is proportional to the speed that the field changes. Look in the hole where the sensor goes and you will see some steel teeth that pass the sensor. You can emulate that with the wrench, or you can run the bike on the centerstand. I think you can measure the voltage out of the sensor with a voltmeter set on AC. In service you get several volts. Waving a wrench would be much less, but you should see the needle wiggle. Any wiggle would be good. Do I leave the sensor plugged in and > turn the key on and wave the wrench, or use a non-digital meter on the > unplugged end? I will check the faq's again also. > The wrench waving needs to be ~1mm from the end of the sensor w/o touching. Just like the steel teeth in the drive. The key needs to be on to get the speedo to register. Ride Safe, Joe > Thanks again. > pjr > From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 14:32:08 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:32:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/22/10, pj rose wrote: > I am having a bit of trouble with my speedo, (speedometer that is...). The > trouble I'm having is ... it's not working. I believe the speedo works at > the instrument because I just got it back from Hollywood Speedo, (thanks for > the info Tom.) Which should take out all of the issues in it, assuming they tested it before they sent it back. I recently had my final drive rebuilt also (thanks again > Tom) and replaced the sensor with a used unit. Is there a reason for that? Is there a way to check the > used sensor? Is there a fuse or some connection I should be checking? You have not checked the IBMWR.org K-Tech FAQs. It is a coil of wire. Connections run from the sensor to a connector to the MWH on the right hand side to pins 22 and 23 on the pod connector. Check for a resistance reading at the side connector and at the pod connector. I forget if it is a few hundred ohms, or a few thousand. It is a LOT of turns. As noted a soldering iron will generate enough of a magnetic field that the turns in the sensor will send a signal to the pod, and if it is energized about 45mph from memory. If you use a soldering gun you should get a LOT of multiplication and be able to measure the VOLTAGE. Measure at the right side connector. Measure at the pod pins 22-23. If you have volts at the pod, you REALLY should indication if the pod is good. So, measure resistance. If you have it, then soldering iron test, and better soldering gun test for indication. If no indication, then test for volts. The right side connectors changed over time. The sensor did not, cause it still had to fit in the same hole in the rear drive. NO, they are not "universal". They are also hard to kill. It is a coil of wire around a steel slug. I would NOT "wave" something around it. Hard to see anything happeneing. The soldering iron preferrably gun gives a LOT better indication. > In addition I am having sporadic problems with my brake system check light. > Is there a failure point that links these two systems or am I dealing with > two completely separate problems. ANY help or relating experience with the > same problem is appreciated. Two separate. The "rear light" monitor" sees that current is going through the rear brake and running lights when they are energized. An intermittent connection WILL cause it go on now and again. It can be the monitor module in the electrical box, but it is unusual, very. It looks to see that the running light is pulling current when the bike is turned on. Then you have to use each braking source to verify that current flows through both and turns on the brake light. Then the brake light HAS to go on when either brake switch tries to energize it. The other thing is that the front brake switch lives a HARD life. Corrosion is a problem. Might try replacing it. Access is a bit better than for the electrical module, and it is cheaper too I think. If you have spare bike still, try swapping the modules. Also, BMWs do NOT like copper/brass bulbs. They want the nickel plated bases. Take the bulbs out, and clean the bases too. HTH. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motorrader at verizon.net Tue Mar 23 14:47:51 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:47:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Be careful out there; rider down References: <4BA7FEAE.4020509@argolis.org> Message-ID: <1752E67B052148778A48BFA9FC2D62D5@dellfe483b726d> > We all know that riding is an inherently dangerous past-time. I think > there's a ying and yang that the risk is a little of what makes you feel > alive while riding. Just remember to manage that risk and be aware of > your surroundings. > -Matt Good advice Matt . Yes, it has been a long winter and most of us can't wait to saddle up and head for the canyons, but we must always be advised to "curb our enthusiasm" on those early rides. Todd From chrisjac at ptd.net Tue Mar 23 14:54:28 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:54:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The Great Reneger Message-ID: <4BA8D624.1070404@ptd.net> Yeah, it's political. If you dont want political...dont watch. Catchy tune though if you ask me! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdKmc9aBELM Chris Jaccarino -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Dick Subject: The Great Reneger Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:35:35 -0400 Size: 2645 Url: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100323/7ef1562e/attachment.eml From mrmevans at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 15:08:48 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:08:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The Great Reneger In-Reply-To: <4BA8D624.1070404@ptd.net> References: <4BA8D624.1070404@ptd.net> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003230808u130c8702scd46347808fe6815@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Chris wrote: > Yeah, it's political. ?If you dont want political...dont watch. ?Catchy > tune though if you ask me! > > > Chris Jaccarino The polit stuff I can deal with as I consider myself an open-minded and intelligent individual. I judge from the lyrics of this song that the song's author is surprised the current president is, in fact, a politician. That alone does not seem to speak highly for his intelligence. What I really have issue with here is the underlying play on words in the title. I get from this a very racist statement that, regardless of political belief or party affiliation, is hurtful to society as a whole. I'm sorry to see that you passed this along Chris. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From chrisjac at ptd.net Tue Mar 23 15:33:00 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:33:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The Great Reneger In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003230808u130c8702scd46347808fe6815@mail.gmail.com> References: <4BA8D624.1070404@ptd.net> <8296f6de1003230808u130c8702scd46347808fe6815@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BA8DF2C.8040601@ptd.net> Michael Evans wrote: > I get from this a very racist statement that, regardless of > political belief or party affiliation, is hurtful to society as a > whole. I'm sorry to see that you passed this along Chris. > Well Mike, maybe you ought to petition those who provide/establish the definition for various words society uses and have what you think is a racist word changed. Regardless, if the shoe fits......... . Chris Jaccarino From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 15:35:32 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:35:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Somehow this seems WAY WEIRD Message-ID: Weapons IMO are supposed to be "lethal". Either you are dead, or you are not. http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/03/toy-firm-designs-less-lethal-taser-me-elmo-rifle/ Plus it sure does not have AK-47 simplicity. Sounds like MANY things that can go wrong. Or it is a stimulus plan activity spreading the money around to the latests "good idea." -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motorrader at verizon.net Tue Mar 23 16:12:06 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:12:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT References: <49891.64.8.61.98.1269345109.squirrel@64.8.61.98> <50443.64.8.61.98.1269352667.squirrel@64.8.61.98> Message-ID: <978295EC7B78416A968E0DBE96F2F577@dellfe483b726d> Advice from various mac-pac members: > I don't know for sure, but I would think any 2-wire variable > reluctance,tri-polar, cluster > sensor with a reversing difibulation mechanism from a 1951 John Deere > Model R should work. Hey guys, I think you are barking up the wrong tree. I did some searching on the net, and I believe I found your problem PJ. Trust me on this one please. Please listen closely and/or take copious notes: http://home.comcast.net/%7Esteveham21/turbo.mpg Good luck, Todd From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 15:38:07 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:38:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The Great Reneger In-Reply-To: <4BA8DF2C.8040601@ptd.net> References: <4BA8D624.1070404@ptd.net> <8296f6de1003230808u130c8702scd46347808fe6815@mail.gmail.com> <4BA8DF2C.8040601@ptd.net> Message-ID: On 3/23/10, Chris wrote: > Michael Evans wrote: > > I get from this a very racist statement that, regardless of > > political belief or party affiliation, is hurtful to society as a > > whole. I'm sorry to see that you passed this along Chris. > > Well Mike, maybe you ought to petition those who provide/establish the > definition for various words society uses and have what you think is a > racist word changed. Or go back and look at earlier political stuff. Look at old cartoons. Old political songs, slogans, ditties. It is part of the process. Same thing happens in the solemn confines of the court room. There is the WRITTEN transcript and the intonation on it. The way it is. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From itsabmw at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 16:22:19 2010 From: itsabmw at gmail.com (pj rose) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: <978295EC7B78416A968E0DBE96F2F577@dellfe483b726d> References: <49891.64.8.61.98.1269345109.squirrel@64.8.61.98> <50443.64.8.61.98.1269352667.squirrel@64.8.61.98> <978295EC7B78416A968E0DBE96F2F577@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: Thanks a bunch Todd! That clears up alot. Now I just need to get my Drawn Reciprocation Dingle-arm installed which will reduce my sinusoidal replenoration, and I should be good to hook. You know ... the scary part is when someone explains how to test electricity THIS video is quite close to what I hear. I am certain I get the same look in my eyes as my parents do when I try to explain for the six hundred and thirty thousandth time how to attach a file to an email ... OK ... Back to highlighting Brian's post and re reading the tech pages. thanks for the help. pjr > Hey guys, I think you are barking up the wrong tree. I did some searching > on the net, and I believe I found your problem PJ. > Trust me on this one please. > > Please listen closely and/or take copious notes: > > http://home.comcast.net/%7Esteveham21/turbo.mpg > > Good luck, > Todd > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100323/50efcfd8/attachment.html From ephoet at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 17:03:46 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:03:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The Great Reneger In-Reply-To: <4BA8D624.1070404@ptd.net> References: <4BA8D624.1070404@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Chris wrote: > Yeah, it's political. ?If you dont want political...dont watch. ?Catchy > tune though if you ask me! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdKmc9aBELM > > Chris Jaccarino Catchy perhaps, but not so truthful. For a more studied analysis of the President's campaign promises I would suggest: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/ The song writer seems to suggest that this is the first politician to have issues with fulfilling campaign promises. How naive.... Perhaps a basic review on the previous President's record on campaign promises is in order. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=george+bush+campaign+promises I list one topic as an example of promises broken, and this with a supposedly Republican friendly 108th congress: (yes the info is a bit dated) HEALTH CARE RHETORIC "There are 43 million uninsured Americans ? 4 million more than when the current administration took office. George W. Bush will reverse this trend by making health insurance affordable for hard-working, low-income families." [Source: Bush-Cheney 2000 website] HEALTH CARE REALITY In the first two years Bush was in office, the number of uninsured American increased by nearly four million. Since Bush took office, health insurance premiums have risen by an average rate of 12.5 percent per year. According to a major study, "widespread adoption [of Bush's major health care plan] could drive up the annual deductible paid by workers." [Source: U.S. Census Bureau, 7/8/04; Kaiser Family Foundation, 4/04; USA Today, 4/25/04] HEALTH CARE RHETORIC "George W. Bush will establish the 'Healthy Communities Innovation Fund' to provide $500 million in grants over five years to fund innovative projects addressing targeted health risks, such as childhood diabetes." [Source: Bush-Cheney 2000 website] HEALTH CARE REALITY Bush never established this fund. [Source: The Philadelphia Inquirer, 1/20/04] I think you'll find many campaign promises have a way of not happening. They call it politics for a reason. EPH From jack.riepe at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 19:26:00 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:26:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] The Truth About The Slider Ride Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: I would like to express my gratitude to everyone who showed up for the ?Great Slider Ride II,? that was held on March 20, 2010. Initially billed as a run to mark my birthday, the ride was actually a celebration of camaraderie, the first day of spring, and for many ? the first ride of the season. Despite what I told Dick Bregstein, it was actually the first time I had been on my bike in four months. The results were predictable enough. The arthritis in my joints started screaming within 50 miles... I was dressed far too warmly... And I managed to get all the riders in my group lost ? on what should have been a straight shot through the Pine Barrens. Fighting first ride jitters, I tried to balance a lot of details and got a few of them skewed. I am especially grateful to Doug Braley and his pal Bill, who road up from Virginia the day before... And their buddy Vince, who rode in from New Jersey early on Saturday morning. I?d like to acknowledge both ECO Mobiles, and ECO Dan who rode up from North Carolina for a slider. (Dan may hold the world?s record for the longest ride for a slider.) It was very exciting riding through New Jersey with Tom Mohn and ECO Dan. People would wave and gesture at them... And I?d get in all the photgraphs, waving back. I would like to thank Joe Sestrich and Chris Jaccarino for both making this ride in extremis. Joe?s arm was in a cast and Chris?s should be. I wanted to apologize to Corey Lyba, who was riding as my wingman. I kept squeezing him to the right, and annoying the hell out of him. (Chalk it up to the heat and the numbing pain I had that day.) I would also like to thank Don Eilenberger and Harold Gantz for showing up with the New Jersey contingent. And of course, it was special to see Tony Luna, who made the first slider ride three years ago. I want to acknowledge the efforts of Brad Jacoby, who did a map read-out of the route, and who led the second group with precision. And I want to thank Ken Bruce who took over leading my group when I dropped the ball. I am a rich man for having friends like you. I was pretty much crippled by the time I got home, and I haven?t felt like writing anything since I got back. I was barely able to drive the truck to the breakfast, but it was even worse on Monday. But the story of the slider ride will be on my blog this Thursday. I know that Joe Sestrich and Chris Jaccarino took some pictures. I was wondering if I could get these by Wednesday. If they are on disks, I will gladly drive to pick them up. Once again, thank you everyone. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From chrisjac at ptd.net Tue Mar 23 20:04:24 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:04:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] The Truth About The Slider Ride In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BA91EC8.3040301@ptd.net> Jack Riepe wrote: > I know that Joe Sestrich and Chris Jaccarino took some pictures. I was wondering if I could get these by Wednesday. If they are on disks, I will gladly drive to pick them up. > Cant help u there birthday boy. I have none as I didnt take any! Chris Jaccarino From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 21:06:34 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:06:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jack went visiting to Wisconsin??? Message-ID: and Bob Atkinson got him trying to get a jump on the swimming season... Or at least that is what he told me with the animated GIF he sent. This shows the whole story, and is said to be around Wichita KS. http://www.thedailytube.com/video/22375/fat-guy-vs-frozen-pond-who-ya-got While hunting for that one, I happened over this one too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw4XiNOVrwI Why do I think of Jim Robinson and a bunch of Mac-Pac'rs? With a good set of friends you don't need enemies???? Jack might recognize the accent. Both WS, and there is moto content in the second one. Not sure about some of the links off of the first one. One was "Grandma's reaction to 'Two Girls, One Cup'". The reaction is reasonably WS. However, TG,OC, not at all!!! So beware if you wander around. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Wed Mar 24 00:12:16 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:12:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jack went visiting to Wisconsin??? References: Message-ID: <42BF4A36442B40788A3A8E8AD82FE513@home.robinson.org> ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Curry While hunting for that one, I happened over this one too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw4XiNOVrwI Why do I think of Jim Robinson and a bunch of Mac-Pac'rs? With a good set of friends you don't need enemies???? Jack might recognize the accent. ------------------------------ I may be crazy, but I'm not that stupid! :-) Jim Robinson West Chester PA From Buzbiker1 at aol.com Wed Mar 24 00:29:54 2010 From: Buzbiker1 at aol.com (Buzbiker1 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:29:54 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: Old Trick New game Message-ID: <762e1.3cc6b0ad.38dab702@aol.com> Good use of Horsepower. Buzz Buzz Davis 337 Beaumont Road Devon, PA. 19333 610-574-0927 buzbiker1 at aol.com http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=-cM9S2AzU28 __._,_.___ From tpcutter at aol.com Wed Mar 24 01:10:32 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:10:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] A little humor to rile the politically sensitive Message-ID: <8CC9905EFD280E0-5178-5670@Webmail-d116.sysops.aol.com> I didn't write these, but they made me guffaw a bit. 1. Democrats buy most of the books that have been banned somewhere. Republicans form censorship committees and read them as a group. 2. Republicans consume three-fourths of all the rutabaga produced in this country. The remainder is thrown out. 3. Republicans usually wear hats and always clean their paint brushes. 4. Democrats give their worn-out clothes to those less fortunate. Republicans wear theirs. 5. Republicans employ exterminators. Democrats step on the bugs. 6. Democrats name their children after currently-popular sports figures, politicians, and entertainers. Republican children are named after their parents or grandparents, according to where the money is. 7. Democrats keep trying to cut down on smoking but are not successful. Neither are Republicans. 8. Republicans tend to keep their shades drawn, although there is seldom any reason why they should. Democrats ought to, but don't. 9. Republicans study the financial pages of the newspaper. Democrats put them in the bottom of the bird cage. 10. Most of the stuff alongside the road has been thrown out of car windows by Democrats. 11. Republicans raise dahlias, Dalmatians, and eyebrows. Democrats raise Airedales, kids, and taxes. 12. Democrats eat the fish they catch. Republicans hang them on the wall. 13. Republican boys date Democratic girls. They plan to marry Republican girls, but feel that they're entitled to a little fun first. 14. Democrats make plans and then do something else. Republicans follow the plans their grandfathers made. 15. Republicans sleep in twin beds--some even in separate rooms. That is why there are more Democrats. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Mar 24 01:24:10 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:24:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Be prepared to be chased bown by a BMW car In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4BA9317A.9189.73E3B93@localhost> > engine: > > http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aCO8Mt6m43HU > A high performance Diesel makes good sense. Mostly in town driving and lots of idling. A perfect fit for a Diesel. A good fit for a hybrid, but nobody would go for that. > This will be the shell: > http://www.carbonmotors.com/ > They may be smart guys with a great idea, but their website is less than fluff. I will put them up with Henderson motorcycles. Ride Safe, Joe > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, > Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped > K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs > PA | http://www.nsevideos.com > _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 01:18:12 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:18:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Freds misadventures Message-ID: Fred works hard at the office but spends two nights each week bowling, and plays golf every Saturday. His wife thinks he's pushing himself too hard, so for his birthday she takes him to a local strip club. The doorman at the club greets them and says, 'Hey, Fred! How ya doin?' His wife is puzzled and asks if he's been to this club before. 'Oh no,' says Fred.. 'He's in my bowling league. When they are seated, a waitress asks Fred if he'd like his usual and brings over a Budweiser. His wife is becoming increasingly uncomfortable and says, 'How did she know that you drink Budweiser?' 'I recognize her, she's the waitress from the golf club. I always have a Bud at the end of the 1st nine, honey.' A stripper then comes over to their table, throws her arms around Fred, starts to rub herself all over him and says, 'Hi Freddie. Want your usual table dance, big boy?' Fred's wife, now furious, grabs her purse and storms out of the club... Fred follows and spots her getting into a taxi. Before she can slam the door, he jumps in beside her. Fred tries desperately to explain how the stripper must have mistaken him for someone else, but his wife is having none of it. She is screaming at him at the top of her lungs, calling him every 4 letter word in the book. The cabby turns around and says, 'Geez Fred, you picked up a real bitch this time.' Fred's funeral will be on Saturday. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From itsabmw at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 01:33:09 2010 From: itsabmw at gmail.com (pj rose) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:33:09 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Brian for responding You have not checked the IBMWR.org K-Tech FAQs. > I actually had checked the tech pages but I DID go over them again and found another clue. Until I read this from Jon Diaz, "If the turn signal stays on forever, then it is likely this cable." I had forgotten that my auto cancel did not turn off my turn indicator this weekend. The cable he is referring to is the sensor to the connector behind the side cover. > > It is a coil of wire. Connections run from the sensor to a connector > to the MWH on the right hand side to pins 22 and 23 on the pod > connector MWH? Sorry don't know what that is > > Check for a resistance reading at the side connector and at the pod > connector. I forget if it is a few hundred ohms, or a few thousand. > It is a LOT of turns. > Ok. I removed the sensor from the bike. I turned my multimeter to ohms and stuck one lead in each hole in the plug and there was resistance. Is that how I should be checking for resistance. > > As noted a soldering iron will generate enough of a magnetic field > that the turns in the sensor will send a signal to the pod, and if it > is energized about 45mph from memory. > I have a soldering iron, do I just hold it near the sensor and look for voltage at the plug? I can measure at the pins also... I did want to compartmentalize. If this part of the puzzle is good and the cluster is good then the "middle" part is schtupped. Is there a way to energize the speedo at the plug to get a reading? If I put power in the plug end and nothing shows I have a problem in the middle. > > If you use a soldering gun you should get a LOT of multiplication and > be able to measure the VOLTAGE. > > Measure at the right side connector. Measure at the pod pins 22-23. > > If you have volts at the pod, you REALLY should indication if the pod is > good. > So, measure resistance. If you have it, then soldering iron test, and > better soldering gun test for indication. If no indication, then test > for volts. > If I measure at the cluster pins, do I just stuff the leads in 22 and 23 with the multimeter turned to ohms, (with the sensor plugged in the other end) and look for resistance? Again. Totally apologize for being a rock ape about this stuff but I want to make sure I'm doing this correctly. > > The right side connectors changed over time. The sensor did not, > cause it still had to fit in the same hole in the rear drive. > I think I should be good there. Thanks again for responding. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100323/8aeb74af/attachment.html From 440props at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 03:46:46 2010 From: 440props at gmail.com (Robert Atkinson) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:46:46 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Somehow this seems WAY WEIRD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 23, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Brian Curry wrote: > Weapons IMO are supposed to be "lethal". Either you are dead, or you > are not. > > http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/03/toy-firm-designs-less-lethal- > taser-me-elmo-rifle/ > > Plus it sure does not have AK-47 simplicity. Sounds like MANY things > that can go wrong. Democrats: "Set your Phazers on stun!" Republicans: "Call the exterminator!" -- Best, Robert Atkinson - 1988 K75S -1993 K75RT - ASTRAL BLUE Beemer Hill Riders - BOOF # 161 - MOA # 89159 - http://www.friendsofscience.org/ "Every town has a few bad drivers, eventually they all move to Racine, Wisconsin" From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 03:49:06 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:49:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/23/10, pj rose wrote: > I actually had checked the tech pages but I DID go over them again and found > another clue. Until I read this from Jon Diaz, "If the turn signal stays on > forever, then it is likely this cable." I had forgotten that my auto cancel > did not turn off my turn indicator this weekend. The cable he is referring > to is the sensor to the connector behind the side cover. The auto cancel is related to the speedo. The pulses from it turn off the TSIcontroler. > > > > It is a coil of wire. Connections run from the sensor to a connector > > to the MWH on the right hand side to pins 22 and 23 on the pod > > connector > > > MWH? Sorry don't know what that is Main Wiring Harness. On the fly Acronyms. > > Check for a resistance reading at the side connector and at the pod > > connector. I forget if it is a few hundred ohms, or a few thousand. > > It is a LOT of turns. > > > > Ok. I removed the sensor from the bike. I turned my multimeter to ohms and > stuck one lead in each hole in the plug and there was resistance. Is that > how I should be checking for resistance. Yes. What was the resistance value? You could have tested it in place. I like testing in place cause the wires are just like they are in service. Also, the 85 rear drives had an issue with the toothed gear loosening up and falling off the hub. If Tom has just been in there, I would not expect it, but using bright light, thin screwdriver, and see if the interiro toothed gear is loose. > > As noted a soldering iron will generate enough of a magnetic field > > that the turns in the sensor will send a signal to the pod, and if it > > is energized about 45mph from memory. > > > > I have a soldering iron, do I just hold it near the sensor and look for > voltage at the plug? Yes. It will likely be a LOW voltage. I can measure at the pins also... I did want to > compartmentalize. If this part of the puzzle is good and the cluster is > good then the "middle" part is schtupped. Is there a way to energize the > speedo at the plug to get a reading? If I put power in the plug end and > nothing shows I have a problem in the middle. I thought of that, but if the volts are too high smoke can come out of the WRONG places and with a new or repaired speedo that would NOT be good. :(:( > > So, measure resistance. If you have it, then soldering iron test, and > > better soldering gun test for indication. If no indication, then test > > for volts. > > > > If I measure at the cluster pins, do I just stuff the leads in 22 and 23 > with the multimeter turned to ohms, (with the sensor plugged in the other > end) and look for resistance? Yes. Again. Totally apologize for being a rock > ape about this stuff but I want to make sure I'm doing this correctly. Not a problem. It is electricity and MAGIC, so I stay calm. It is ordinary to me, but to others.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 04:20:55 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:20:55 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moto 2 bike build in NJ Message-ID: <4a4431121003232120w6f27f6c2uc291e536d64e8997@mail.gmail.com> My European contacts are amazed at this effort to build a Moto 2 bike for European racing in New Jersey USA. Dano Just letting everyone know I will be updating my blog site more regularly as the bike build gets going. The first new post is up with some suspension castings. Over the next couple of months a lot of action will be going on. http://moto2-usa.blogspot.com/ Chris Cosentino Cosentino Engineering 812 Jersey Ave. 3rd Floor Jersey City, NJ 07310 201-392-1400 fax 484-340-1400 www.cosentinoengineering.com From Ducdude at verizon.net Wed Mar 24 10:11:44 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:11:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Be prepared to be chased bown by a BMW car References: <4BA9317A.9189.73E3B93@localhost> Message-ID: <758DD7446C394F3CADA989AF4D4448C5@heilveil5e3fdd> > >> This will be the shell: >> http://www.carbonmotors.com/ >> > They may be smart guys with a great idea, but their website is less > than fluff. I will put them up with Henderson motorcycles. > > Ride Safe, > > Joe Yea, but for that short period I really did think of buying a Henderson...I liked the way they rode and looked..That was a good day..Then the next day came and they were gone Duc From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Mar 24 10:43:41 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:43:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BA9B49D.19434.93E7D5C@localhost> > On 3/23/10, pj rose wrote: > > I actually had checked the tech pages but I DID go over them again > > and found another clue. Until I read this from Jon Diaz, "If the > > turn signal stays on forever, then it is likely this cable." I had > > forgotten that my auto cancel did not turn off my turn indicator > > this weekend. The cable he is referring to is the sensor to the > > connector behind the side cover. > > The auto cancel is related to the speedo. The pulses from it turn off > the TSIcontroler. > > > > > > > It is a coil of wire. Connections run from the sensor to a > > > connector to the MWH on the right hand side to pins 22 and 23 on > > > the pod connector > > > > > > MWH? Sorry don't know what that is > > Main Wiring Harness. On the fly Acronyms. > > > > Check for a resistance reading at the side connector and at the > > > pod connector. I forget if it is a few hundred ohms, or a few > > > thousand. It is a LOT of turns. > > > > > > > Ok. I removed the sensor from the bike. I turned my multimeter to > > ohms and stuck one lead in each hole in the plug and there was > > resistance. Is that how I should be checking for resistance. > > Yes. What was the resistance value? > > You could have tested it in place. I like testing in place cause the > wires are just like they are in service. > > Also, the 85 rear drives had an issue with the toothed gear loosening > up and falling off the hub. If Tom has just been in there, I would > not expect it, but using bright light, thin screwdriver, and see if > the interiro toothed gear is loose. > > > > As noted a soldering iron will generate enough of a magnetic field > > > that the turns in the sensor will send a signal to the pod, and if > > > it is energized about 45mph from memory. > > > > > > > I have a soldering iron, do I just hold it near the sensor and look > > for voltage at the plug? > > Yes. It will likely be a LOW voltage. > > I can measure at the pins also... I did want to > > compartmentalize. If this part of the puzzle is good and the > > cluster is good then the "middle" part is schtupped. Is there a way > > to energize the speedo at the plug to get a reading? If I put power > > in the plug end and nothing shows I have a problem in the middle. > > I thought of that, but if the volts are too high smoke can come out of > the WRONG places and with a new or repaired speedo that would NOT be > good. :(:( > For what its worth a signal 500mV at 10 Hz will work the speedometer. I used a signal generator to do this once on my k-bike. I went 120 mph in the garage :-) > > > So, measure resistance. If you have it, then soldering iron test, > > > and better soldering gun test for indication. If no indication, > > > then test for volts. > > > > > I agree. This needs to be done. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From jjs1601 at comcast.net Wed Mar 24 11:47:06 2010 From: jjs1601 at comcast.net (Joe) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:47:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] The Truth About The Slider Ride References: Message-ID: <003901cacb47$bb5448a0$6401a8c0@joe> I'll drop them by this morning ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Riepe" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:26 PM Subject: [MAC-PAC] The Truth About The Slider Ride Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: I would like to express my gratitude to everyone who showed up for the ?Great Slider Ride II,? that was held on March 20, 2010. Initially billed as a run to mark my birthday, the ride was actually a celebration of camaraderie, the first day of spring, and for many ? the first ride of the season. Despite what I told Dick Bregstein, it was actually the first time I had been on my bike in four months. The results were predictable enough. The arthritis in my joints started screaming within 50 miles... I was dressed far too warmly... And I managed to get all the riders in my group lost ? on what should have been a straight shot through the Pine Barrens. Fighting first ride jitters, I tried to balance a lot of details and got a few of them skewed. I am especially grateful to Doug Braley and his pal Bill, who road up from Virginia the day before... And their buddy Vince, who rode in from New Jersey early on Saturday morning. I?d like to acknowledge both ECO Mobiles, and ECO Dan who rode up from North Carolina for a slider. (Dan may hold the world?s record for the longest ride for a slider.) It was very exciting riding through New Jersey with Tom Mohn and ECO Dan. People would wave and gesture at them... And I?d get in all the photgraphs, waving back. I would like to thank Joe Sestrich and Chris Jaccarino for both making this ride in extremis. Joe?s arm was in a cast and Chris?s should be. I wanted to apologize to Corey Lyba, who was riding as my wingman. I kept squeezing him to the right, and annoying the hell out of him. (Chalk it up to the heat and the numbing pain I had that day.) I would also like to thank Don Eilenberger and Harold Gantz for showing up with the New Jersey contingent. And of course, it was special to see Tony Luna, who made the first slider ride three years ago. I want to acknowledge the efforts of Brad Jacoby, who did a map read-out of the route, and who led the second group with precision. And I want to thank Ken Bruce who took over leading my group when I dropped the ball. I am a rich man for having friends like you. I was pretty much crippled by the time I got home, and I haven?t felt like writing anything since I got back. I was barely able to drive the truck to the breakfast, but it was even worse on Monday. But the story of the slider ride will be on my blog this Thursday. I know that Joe Sestrich and Chris Jaccarino took some pictures. I was wondering if I could get these by Wednesday. If they are on disks, I will gladly drive to pick them up. Once again, thank you everyone. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2765 - Release Date: 03/23/10 07:33:00 From rogers.george at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 12:16:52 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:16:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] A little humor to rile the politically sensitive In-Reply-To: <8CC9905EFD280E0-5178-5670@Webmail-d116.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9905EFD280E0-5178-5670@Webmail-d116.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1f13c3621003240516u477e044bu1ff73b1e20b4df71@mail.gmail.com> In 1963, this list or a reasonable facsimile thereof was posted on the window to my high school library in West St. Paul, MN. There ain't nuthin' new under the sun. Best wishes, Rogers George Newark, DE http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http://serenitytravelnewark.com On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Tom Cutter wrote: > > I didn't write these, but they made me guffaw a bit. > > 1. Democrats buy most of the books that have been banned somewhere. > Republicans form censorship committees and read them as a group. > > 2. Republicans consume three-fourths of all the rutabaga produced in > this country. The remainder is thrown out. > > 3. Republicans usually wear hats and always clean their paint brushes. > > 4. Democrats give their worn-out clothes to those less fortunate. > Republicans wear theirs. > > 5. Republicans employ exterminators. Democrats step on the bugs. > > 6. Democrats name their children after currently-popular sports > figures, politicians, and entertainers. Republican children are named > after their parents or grandparents, according to where the money is. > > 7. Democrats keep trying to cut down on smoking but are not successful. > Neither are Republicans. > > 8. Republicans tend to keep their shades drawn, although there is > seldom any reason why they should. Democrats ought to, but don't. > > 9. Republicans study the financial pages of the newspaper. Democrats > put them in the bottom of the bird cage. > > 10. Most of the stuff alongside the road has been thrown out of car > windows by Democrats. > > 11. Republicans raise dahlias, Dalmatians, and eyebrows. Democrats > raise Airedales, kids, and taxes. > > 12. Democrats eat the fish they catch. Republicans hang them on the > wall. > > 13. Republican boys date Democratic girls. They plan to marry > Republican girls, but feel that they're entitled to a little fun first. > > 14. Democrats make plans and then do something else. Republicans follow > the plans their grandfathers made. > > 15. Republicans sleep in twin beds--some even in separate rooms. That > is why there are more Democrats. > > > -- > Tom Cutter ... From piechota at argolis.org Wed Mar 24 13:00:45 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:00:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moto 2 bike build in NJ In-Reply-To: <4a4431121003232120w6f27f6c2uc291e536d64e8997@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121003232120w6f27f6c2uc291e536d64e8997@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BAA0CFD.9060503@argolis.org> Dan Whitfield wrote: > Just letting everyone know I will be updating my blog site more > regularly as the bike build gets going. The first new post is up with > some suspension castings. Over the next couple of months a lot of > action will be going on. > > http://moto2-usa.blogspot.com/ http://www.moto2-usa.com Some good info here, too. I'm a little confused though, apparently Moto2 has gone to a spec engine (one engine to rule them all), but these guys are forging ahead to build a new engine anyways in hopes they'll change the rules back. I admire their tenacity, but it seems like a lot of work for something that may get be accepted into any race series. They seem to be on the Czysz (and Buell, for that matter) path; designing a bike with all kinds of 'new' stuff. While noble, that's a tough row to plow. I wish them luck, hopefully they have more success. From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 14:11:58 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:11:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: <4BA9B49D.19434.93E7D5C@localhost> References: <4BA9B49D.19434.93E7D5C@localhost> Message-ID: You DO NOT want to incur the wrath of the "Lack of Trimming" Nazi. NOT GOOD at all. Holding down the Shift key and using the down arrow is GOOD and FAST. On 3/24/10, Joe Dille wrote: > > I thought of that, but if the volts are too high smoke can come out of > > the WRONG places and with a new or repaired speedo that would NOT be > > good. :(:( > > > > > For what its worth a signal 500mV at 10 Hz will work the speedometer. > I used a signal generator to do this once on my k-bike. I went 120 > mph in the garage :-) See he tested. I did not. Half a volt (0.5V) will work and apparently not let smoke out. Getting the right transformer might be the tough part. Oh, and going LOWER is safer and higher not safe. Lower, you might loose indication. Higher is the smoke problem potential. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 14:29:52 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:29:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Marge is having STRANGE Outlook Express Mail problems Message-ID: I got these two messages from Marge, and I don't know enough about OLE to know what is going on. However, "some setting changed". Does someone with more OLE knowledge have a hint. Being "on list" she should be able to see it in the Mac-Pac folder she has. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: HONEYBRK at aol.com Date: Mar 24, 2010 9:41 AM Subject: E-Mail Problems To: bmwbrian at gmail.com Brian I am having problems with my OE E-mail All my messages in the Inbox disappeared yesterday and I am not receiving E-Mail in the Inbox. I am receiving E-Mail in the other boxes including Mac Pac. I am not sure if messages that I have sent from OE are getting through. AOL is receiving them. Did you get my message I sent last night? =========== I did and I replied to it, but being "new" Marge is not seeing it. Here is what she sent that might provide some hints to those that know OLE =========== I don't know what happened but I suddenly lost all recent E-Mails in my Inbox so the most recent one is from last June. At the same time all my mailboxes have the messages with the most recent at the top. Any idea where they went? I am going to send a message from AOL to Outlook and see if I get it. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From itsabmw at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 14:46:52 2010 From: itsabmw at gmail.com (pj rose) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:46:52 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: <4BA9B49D.19434.93E7D5C@localhost> References: <4BA9B49D.19434.93E7D5C@localhost> Message-ID: Thanks again Brian. I'm picking through this thing once and for all ... (I just put my Antique MC plate on yesterday and I want all my bells and whistles to work.) > > The auto cancel is related to the speedo. The pulses from it turn off > > the TSIcontroler. > Roger that. It's the pulses generated at the final drive right? No pings and the speedo doesn't know wtf is going on. > > > Ok. I removed the sensor from the bike. I turned my multimeter to > > > ohms and stuck one lead in each hole in the plug and there was > > > resistance. Is that how I should be checking for resistance. > > > > Yes. What was the resistance value? > With the selector set on RX100 it looks like 150-160 or so. I have a new analog multimeter and I have a soldering gun. > > You could have tested it in place. I like testing in place cause the > > wires are just like they are in service. > Yes that is correct. I wanted to bring it to work for one of the guys here to help me test. I will, however, recheck on install. > > > Also, the 85 rear drives had an issue with the toothed gear loosening > > up and falling off the hub. If Tom has just been in there, I would > > not expect it, but using bright light, thin screwdriver, and see if > > the interiro toothed gear is loose. > Ok, I will check that, I'm putting that in the "not likely" column though with the cluster for now. > > > Yes. It will likely be a LOW voltage. > Ok. I placed the meter on DCV and 10 and turned on the soldering gun and held the tip close to the pickup and got nothing. I switched it around to the different measures on the DCV side with the same result. I switched it around to the ACV side and got a reading of 1 to 1.5. > > I thought of that, but if the volts are too high smoke can come out of > > the WRONG places and with a new or repaired speedo that would NOT be > > good. :(:( > right ... ok ... not going there. > > > For what its worth a signal 500mV at 10 Hz will work the speedometer. > I used a signal generator to do this once on my k-bike. I went 120 > mph in the garage :-) > I may have access to a signal generator. Let me check. I've got a feeling I'm dealing with a wiring issue in the "middle" piece of the puzzle. Thanks again for all the help. pjr little rock, AR -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100324/5715deff/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 14:58:38 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:58:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: References: <4BA9B49D.19434.93E7D5C@localhost> Message-ID: On 3/24/10, pj rose wrote: > > > The auto cancel is related to the speedo. The pulses from it turn off > > > the TSIcontroler. > > > > Roger that. It's the pulses generated at the final drive right? No pings > and the speedo doesn't know wtf is going on. Yes, each time the wheel rotates it generates either 8 or 16 pulses. Which can be REAL LOW voltage. The pod takes them makes them big 12V pulses and sends them to the speedo for readings and the odometer stepper motor. The speedo takes digital stuff and makes it analog for display. > > > Yes. What was the resistance value? > > > > With the selector set on RX100 it looks like 150-160 or so. I have a new > analog multimeter and I have a soldering gun. That is about 15000 or 16000 which sounds about right. 15 or 16K ohms. It would still be good at 1500-1600K ohms. > > > You could have tested it in place. I like testing in place cause the > > > wires are just like they are in service. > > > > Yes that is correct. I wanted to bring it to work for one of the guys here > to help me test. I will, however, recheck on install. OK, plan. > > > Also, the 85 rear drives had an issue with the toothed gear loosening > > > up and falling off the hub. If Tom has just been in there, I would > > > not expect it, but using bright light, thin screwdriver, and see if > > > the interiro toothed gear is loose. > > > > Ok, I will check that, I'm putting that in the "not likely" column though > with the cluster for now. Agreed. > > > Yes. It will likely be a LOW voltage. > > > > Ok. I placed the meter on DCV and 10 and turned on the soldering gun and > held the tip close to the pickup and got nothing. I switched it around to > the different measures on the DCV side with the same result. I switched it > around to the ACV side and got a reading of 1 to 1.5. It is working. The soldering gun is taking AC from the mains and changing the value. DC only goes one way. AC back and forth. Trying to measure and AC voltage on a DC setting does not work. > I may have access to a signal generator. Let me check. I've got a feeling > I'm dealing with a wiring issue in the "middle" piece of the puzzle. If you see AC volts w/ it installed at the right side connecor, and no volts at pins 22-23 at the pod, it is in the middle of the MWH. :(:( -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wateredg at interlog.com Wed Mar 24 15:03:48 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:03:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Marge is having STRANGE Outlook Express Mail problems References: Message-ID: Hello Brian and Marge, From: "Brian Curry" >I got these two messages from Marge, and I don't know enough about OLE > to know what is going on. However, "some setting changed". > > Does someone with more OLE knowledge have a hint. Being "on list" she > should be able to see it in the Mac-Pac folder she has. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: HONEYBRK at aol.com > Date: Mar 24, 2010 9:41 AM > Subject: E-Mail Problems > To: bmwbrian at gmail.com > > Brian > > I am having problems with my OE E-mail All my messages in the Inbox > disappeared yesterday and I am not receiving E-Mail in the Inbox. I > am receiving E-Mail in the other boxes including Mac Pac. I am not > sure if messages that I have sent from OE are getting through. AOL is > receiving them. Did you get my message I sent last night? > > =========== > I did and I replied to it, but being "new" Marge is not seeing it. > Here is what she sent that might provide some hints to those that know > OLE > =========== > > I don't know what happened but I suddenly lost all recent E-Mails in > my Inbox so the most recent one is from last June. At the same time > all my mailboxes have the messages with the most recent at the top. > > Any idea where they went? > > I am going to send a message from AOL to Outlook and see if I get it. Brian, I believe Marge is talking about Outlook Express (OE), and not OLE (Object Linking and Embedding). Probably just a typo. I have experienced the same symptoms that Marge had on Outlook Express 6 running on Windows XP SP 3. I know of several things you can try: (1) While displaying your inbox, View menu -> Current View: Ensure that Show All Messages is selected. (2) Reboot your PC. This works OE experienced a silent memory error. Emails in-box should magically reappear. (3) Email inbox file corruption. This can happen as a result of hard disc issues, a crash or hang, forced reboot, etc. I bought a product called R-Mail, which successfully repaired my file. http://www.r-tt.com/outlook_mail_recovery/ (4) Email inbox file corruption, due to file exceeding 2 GB. One of the extremely stupid design constraints of Outlook Express, is that each folder is limited to 2 GB of physical space, and OE does not tell you when you approaching that limit :-( R-Mail may be instrumental at recovering what it can from the existing inbox. Right-click -Properties on your inbox to determine the location of your files that represent the folders in OE (hint: They are buried in some obscurely-named directories) (5) Check your mail rules. This is a reach, but is it possible you have accidentally created or enabled a mail rule the moves or deletes items in your inbox. Unlikely, but just something to be sure of. (6) Have you recently added anti-spam or anti-virus software that could mistakenly be overly aggressive, and identifying your entire inbox contents as bad stuff, or needing review (moved to some other folder)? Beyond that, I'd be hitting Google and MS's web site for more suggestions. Good luck. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From wateredg at interlog.com Wed Mar 24 15:10:14 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:10:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Marge is having STRANGE Outlook Express Mail problems References: Message-ID: <575AAD37C8E44928A9521FD7E7454930@9200c> Hello again, One other thing to check: (1) View menu -> Current View: Make sure Show All Messages is selected (2) View menu -> Customize Current View... (3) The top frame should have "For all messages" selected, and the bottom frame's bottom line should read "Show the message". If the bottom line reads "Hide the message", click the Hide link, and then use the dialog to change Hide to Show. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From itsabmw at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 15:09:22 2010 From: itsabmw at gmail.com (pj rose) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:09:22 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: References: <4BA9B49D.19434.93E7D5C@localhost> Message-ID: > > With the selector set on RX100 it looks like 150-160 or so. I have a new > > analog multimeter and I have a soldering gun. > > That is about 15000 or 16000 which sounds about right. 15 or 16K > ohms. It would still be good at 1500-1600K ohms. > I said that wrong ... With the selector at x100 the needle was between the 1 and the 2, so the measurement was 150-160 AFTER multiplying. This, in conjunction with the ACV test still shows this part of the puzzle to be good though... correct? > If you see AC volts w/ it installed at the right side connecor, and no > volts at pins 22-23 at the pod, it is in the middle of the MWH. :(:( > The level of Suckitude increaseth... Is there an easy part to check first? Turn Signal Relay? I can get to that relatively easily. How can I test for that? I don't have any spare bikes but I may have a spare relay. If I pull the plug on the back of the speedo, after reconnecting and reinstalling the sensor, and check for ohms by sticking the leads in 22 and 23 what should I find? Is that my next step? thanks for your patience. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100324/2b12cf33/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 15:36:37 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:36:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: References: <4BA9B49D.19434.93E7D5C@localhost> Message-ID: On 3/24/10, pj rose wrote: > > > With the selector set on RX100 it looks like 150-160 or so. I have a > new > > > analog multimeter and I have a soldering gun. > > > > That is about 15000 or 16000 which sounds about right. 15 or 16K > > ohms. It would still be good at 1500-1600K ohms. > > I said that wrong ... With the selector at x100 the needle was between the 1 > and the 2, so the measurement was 150-160 AFTER multiplying. This, in > conjunction with the ACV test still shows this part of the puzzle to be good > though... correct? Still OK, and the ACV test is confirmatory. > > If you see AC volts w/ it installed at the right side connecor, and no > > volts at pins 22-23 at the pod, it is in the middle of the MWH. :(:( > > > > The level of Suckitude increaseth... > > Is there an easy part to check first? Turn Signal Relay? I can get to that > relatively easily. How can I test for that? I don't have any spare bikes > but I may have a spare relay. No. The TSR is AFTER the pod. No pod, not TSR. > If I pull the plug on the back of the speedo, after reconnecting and > reinstalling the sensor, and check for ohms by sticking the leads in 22 and > 23 what should I find? Is that my next step? 22 and 23 should be the same as at the connector. If it is not, look at the color of wires at 22 and 23 and you should see the same at the MWH at the connector. With both ends disconnected "Ohm out" the two wires from the connector to pod. They should be zero. One may be open. Also "Ohm out" from one to the other and it should be open or infinity. I think it is. Plus I am somewhat fast at getting to the pod back. I remove the two allens that hold the bracket to the triple clamp. Then I can kinda lift it out and get to the back to remove the connections. > thanks for your patience. We are not the frustrated one with a non-working pod. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Mar 24 15:38:38 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:38:38 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: References: <4BA9B49D.19434.93E7D5C@localhost> Message-ID: <58465.12.181.211.35.1269445118.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > Thanks again Brian. Snip... > >> >> > Yes. It will likely be a LOW voltage. >> Not too terribly low. It can easily grow to be several volts in service. The voltage is proportional to the speed you are going. As I recall we got about 2 volts off the sensor with my EE friend holding an oscilloscope in the sidecar in the parking lot. We only got up to 30 mph. The speedometer circuit does not care about the voltage per-se. It is just looking at the frequency. > Ok. I placed the meter on DCV and 10 and turned on the soldering gun and > held the tip close to the pickup and got nothing. I switched it around to > the different measures on the DCV side with the same result. I switched > it > around to the ACV side and got a reading of 1 to 1.5. > I said you will be looking at an AC voltage. In any case, your sensor should be working as ling asi it is clean and the slotted ring is in place. > >> > I may have access to a signal generator. Let me check. I've got a > feeling > I'm dealing with a wiring issue in the "middle" piece of the puzzle. > That is my guess. I had a failure in the connection to the connector. Very hard to figure out. Perhaps you have a similar issue. Ride Safe, Joe From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Mar 24 15:45:00 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:45:00 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: References: <4BA9B49D.19434.93E7D5C@localhost> Message-ID: <63143.12.181.211.35.1269445500.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > >> If you see AC volts w/ it installed at the right side connecor, and no >> volts at pins 22-23 at the pod, it is in the middle of the MWH. :(:( >> > The level of Suckitude increaseth... > Let's hope it is in the connector. > Is there an easy part to check first? Turn Signal Relay? I can get to > that > relatively easily. How can I test for that? I don't have any spare bikes > but I may have a spare relay. > > If I pull the plug on the back of the speedo, after reconnecting and > reinstalling the sensor, and check for ohms by sticking the leads in 22 > and > 23 what should I find? Is that my next step? > YES. Do the soldering iron trick and do the same AC voltage measuring trick you did before. You should have a couple of AC volts at 22-23. If you don't see the voltage you have a problem in the wires. > thanks for your patience. > No problem. Ride Safe, Joe From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 15:46:17 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:46:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: <58465.12.181.211.35.1269445118.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <4BA9B49D.19434.93E7D5C@localhost> <58465.12.181.211.35.1269445118.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: On 3/24/10, Joe Dille wrote: > >> > Yes. It will likely be a LOW voltage. > >> > > > Not too terribly low. It can easily grow to be several volts in service. > The voltage is proportional to the speed you are going. As I recall we > got about 2 volts off the sensor with my EE friend holding an oscilloscope > in the sidecar in the parking lot. We only got up to 30 mph. > > The speedometer circuit does not care about the voltage per-se. It is > just looking at the frequency. That sounds good until folks connected a line from the wall outlet to the pod connections. Those folks ARE out there. :(:( It took me one bad experience to realize that. > > I may have access to a signal generator. Let me check. I've got a > > feeling > > I'm dealing with a wiring issue in the "middle" piece of the puzzle. > > > > > That is my guess. I had a failure in the connection to the connector. > Very hard to figure out. Perhaps you have a similar issue. The hard stuff when you are not electrical droid is a BEAR. However, with patient folks at the other end, it can work out. We are patient. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From itsabmw at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 15:54:10 2010 From: itsabmw at gmail.com (pj rose) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:54:10 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: <63143.12.181.211.35.1269445500.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <4BA9B49D.19434.93E7D5C@localhost> <63143.12.181.211.35.1269445500.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: Thanks Joe and Brian. > Let's hope it is in the connector. > To be honest I have been HOPING the repair fairies would solve this ... but I guess two years is long enough to wait. > YES. Do the soldering iron trick and do the same AC voltage measuring > trick you did before. You should have a couple of AC volts at 22-23. If > you don't see the voltage you have a problem in the wires. > Ok I will try this when I get home tonight. Joe you said you had a wire connection problem at the connector? You are referring to the connector on the back of the pod? Are there any indicators or trix to finding that bad connection? Did you say you soldered the connections? tanx y'all -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100324/d76b4121/attachment.html From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Mar 24 16:07:25 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:07:25 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speedometer trouble, Brake system check light 85K100RT In-Reply-To: References: <4BA9B49D.19434.93E7D5C@localhost> <63143.12.181.211.35.1269445500.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <16186.12.181.211.35.1269446845.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > Thanks Joe and Brian. > > >> Let's hope it is in the connector. >> > > To be honest I have been HOPING the repair fairies would solve this ... > but > I guess two years is long enough to wait. > The repair fairies are very busy this time of year. They can't get to everyone. > >> YES. Do the soldering iron trick and do the same AC voltage measuring >> trick you did before. You should have a couple of AC volts at 22-23. >> If >> you don't see the voltage you have a problem in the wires. >> > > > > Ok I will try this when I get home tonight. > Let us know. > Joe you said you had a wire connection problem at the connector? You are > referring to the connector on the back of the pod? Are there any > indicators > or trix to finding that bad connection? I think I used a pin on the the end of the voltmeter to probe things. It was years ago. Did you say you soldered the > connections? > Yes. The connection that connects the sensor to the main wiring harness has several connections in it. They all need to work. Kinda tough to explain, but here goes. To get from the sensor to the main wiring harness (MWH) the signal goes from the - sensor wire to sensor connector - sensor connector to MWH connector - MWH connector to MWH wire I had problems with the first and third steps. I took the connectors out of the connector housing and soldered them. It has worked for the last 10 years. Ride Safe, Joe From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Wed Mar 24 16:55:35 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:55:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Marge is having STRANGE Outlook Express Mail problems References: <575AAD37C8E44928A9521FD7E7454930@9200c> Message-ID: <003501cacb72$d2de1340$4001a8c0@FastHP> > One other thing to check: > (1) View menu -> Current View: Make sure Show All Messages is selected I did this and Show all messages was not checked so I checked it > (2) View menu -> Customize Current View... > (3) The top frame should have "For all messages" selected, and the bottom > frame's bottom line should read "Show the message". > I then did this and it was as it should be I went back to Current view and Show all messages was no longer checked and The first "Copy of Show All Messages" was checked > If the bottom line reads "Hide the message", click the Hide link, and then > use the dialog to change Hide to Show. Marge From wateredg at interlog.com Wed Mar 24 17:45:10 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:45:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Marge is having STRANGE Outlook Express Mail problems References: <575AAD37C8E44928A9521FD7E7454930@9200c> <003501cacb72$d2de1340$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: <3EE0550B4FA74FAFBF68BCB5D135F27A@9200c> Hello Marge, From: "Marge Busch" > > One other thing to check: >> (1) View menu -> Current View: Make sure Show All Messages is selected > I did this and Show all messages was not checked so I checked it > >> (2) View menu -> Customize Current View... >> (3) The top frame should have "For all messages" selected, and the bottom >> frame's bottom line should read "Show the message". >> > I then did this and it was as it should be > > I went back to Current view and Show all messages was no longer checked > and The first "Copy of Show All Messages" was checked > > >> If the bottom line reads "Hide the message", click the Hide link, and >> then >> use the dialog to change Hide to Show. Does that mean that all is well now? The emails in your inbox are now showing up? I hope so. Otherwise, I'm out of suggestions other than Google and MS's web site. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Wed Mar 24 18:17:00 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:17:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Marge is having STRANGE Outlook Express Mail problems References: <575AAD37C8E44928A9521FD7E7454930@9200c> <003501cacb72$d2de1340$4001a8c0@FastHP> <3EE0550B4FA74FAFBF68BCB5D135F27A@9200c> Message-ID: <000901cacb7e$3286e6e0$4001a8c0@FastHP> >> > One other thing to check: >>> (1) View menu -> Current View: Make sure Show All Messages is selected >> I did this and Show all messages was not checked so I checked it >> >>> (2) View menu -> Customize Current View... >>> (3) The top frame should have "For all messages" selected, and the >>> bottom >>> frame's bottom line should read "Show the message". >>> >> I then did this and it was as it should be >> >> I went back to Current view and Show all messages was no longer checked >> and The first "Copy of Show All Messages" was checked >> >> >>> If the bottom line reads "Hide the message", click the Hide link, and >>> then >>> use the dialog to change Hide to Show. > > Does that mean that all is well now? The emails in your inbox are now > showing up? I hope so. Otherwise, I'm out of suggestions other than Google > and MS's web site. No that means that checking the View options didn't do anything. Everytime I looked the "Customize" it unchecked the " Show All Messages" even though I did not do anything under the Customize part. I have not tried your other suggestions and will now try the R-Mail program. Marge From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 19:21:32 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jobs that are no more Message-ID: Interesting photo presentation on jobs that have gone bye-bye. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124251060 (WS) I wonder how many of the jobs folks here, will go bye-bye and I bet we have some that jobs they have had have gone bye-bye. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From petebphotog at yahoo.com Wed Mar 24 19:33:24 2010 From: petebphotog at yahoo.com (pete bannan) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jobs that are no more In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50857.2048.qm@web52808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hey, I saw my job! Pete B ----- Original Message ---- From: Brian Curry To: Mac-Pac Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 3:21:32 PM Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jobs that are no more Interesting photo presentation on jobs that have gone bye-bye. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124251060 (WS) I wonder how many of the jobs folks here, will go bye-bye and I bet we have some that jobs they have had have gone bye-bye. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From ephoet at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 19:56:35 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:56:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jobs that are no more In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > Interesting photo presentation on jobs that have gone bye-bye. > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124251060 > (WS) > > I wonder how many of the jobs folks here, will go bye-bye and I bet we > have some that jobs they have had have gone bye-bye. > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting list. My Dad worked as a trans-atlantic telegraph (morse code) operator after getting out of the Dutch Army in 52.. Worked for the Dutch PTT in the early 50's. Only later he became a civil/mech engr after coming here to the States. My former mother in law worked as a switchboard operator for Ma Bell in the very early 60's, here in Philadelphia. Yes, her supervisor had roller skates. Rosenburgers was doing home milk delivery here in the Phila area, that was only discontinued in the last 3-4 years..... http://www.rosenbergers.com/orders.html But the Ice Man, he still cometh. At least to the convenience and grocery stores! At the rate of about 11,000 tons per day for Arctic Glacier, whose trucks you see on the road locally http://www.arcticglacierinc.com/about.htm.... Now I'm my own secretary, copy boy, typesetter etc with all of the efficiency that MS office can bestow..... EPH From motoleo at verizon.net Wed Mar 24 20:31:42 2010 From: motoleo at verizon.net (Lenny Seidman) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:31:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jobs that are no more In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I worked as a typesetter while in college studying graphic design. A lot of printing related jobs have also gone...like plate makers, film and negative strippers ( I know that will bring on some comments ;) and engravers. Lenny Seidman (ex-graphic designer) On 3/24/10 3:21 PM, "Brian Curry" wrote: > Interesting photo presentation on jobs that have gone bye-bye. > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124251060 > (WS) > > I wonder how many of the jobs folks here, will go bye-bye and I bet we > have some that jobs they have had have gone bye-bye. From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 20:42:09 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:42:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but maybe not: India To Weaponize World's Hottest Chili Message-ID: Beware the man with the hot chili. http://www.wfmz.com/news/22916856/detail.html India To Weaponize World's Hottest Chili GAUHATI, India -- The Indian military has a new weapon against terrorism: the world's hottest chili. After conducting tests, the military has decided to use the thumb-sized "bhut jolokia," or "ghost chili," to make tear gas-like hand grenades to immobilize suspects, defense officials said Tuesday. So, we will have chili's of mass destruction??? CMD.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 20:44:06 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:44:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jobs that are no more In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/24/10, Lenny Seidman wrote: > A lot of printing related jobs have also gone...like plate makers, film and > negative strippers ( I know that will bring on some comments ;) and > engravers. And the people that understood the issue of widowed and orphaned lines on a page. Started when "Pagemaker" came out, and the office drone was tasked with putting out a "news letter" and knew nothing of design. It is even showing up in books now. :(:( -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From kgbruce at verizon.net Wed Mar 24 20:57:35 2010 From: kgbruce at verizon.net (Ken Bruce) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:57:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] March Riders' Dinner Message-ID: Its Spring, its beautiful, the snow is gone and nearly so is March! So, I'll get right to the point... RIDERS' DINNER next Wednesday night, March 31st at the Drafting Room in Exton, PA @ 6:30 p.m. http://www.draftingroom.com/exton/site_files/EX_info.html# Early forecast for next Wednesday night is darn near perfect spring riding weather....even if its not, come on out to the Riders' Dinner. The Drafting Room does a nice job with good food & great brews (FTOYWDB) If you can, give me a heads up if you intend to attend so I can inform (warn) the restaurant. If you don't know til the last minute, that's OK, just show up! That's it, short n sweet! I have to get this out now! Come on out to the Riders' Dinner next Wednesday night! Thanks, Ken Bruce From bergman at panix.com Wed Mar 24 21:02:11 2010 From: bergman at panix.com (bergman at panix.com) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:02:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jobs that are no more In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:31:42 EDT." References: Message-ID: <30332.1269464531@localhost> In the message dated: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:31:42 EDT, The pithy ruminations from Lenny Seidman on were: => I worked as a typesetter while in college studying graphic design. Me too...though I wasn't studying graphic design, and I never worked with hot type... We used a phototypesetter (a Compugraphic typesetter with 8" floppies) and did manual paste-up (Xacto knives and hot wax...loads of fun). I've still got a pica pole somewhere around the house. I was also a darkroom and Velox tech. Of course, that's nothing compared some people on the list...the ones who chiseled their own stone tablets, or made paper out of birch bark and ink from acorns. :) Mark => => A lot of printing related jobs have also gone...like plate makers, film and => negative strippers ( I know that will bring on some comments ;) and => engravers. => => Lenny Seidman => (ex-graphic designer) => => => On 3/24/10 3:21 PM, "Brian Curry" wrote: => => > Interesting photo presentation on jobs that have gone bye-bye. => > => > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124251060 => > (WS) => > => > I wonder how many of the jobs folks here, will go bye-bye and I bet we => > have some that jobs they have had have gone bye-bye. => => => _______________________________________________ => Mac-pac-l mailing list => Mac-pac-l at jtan.com => http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l => From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Mar 24 21:04:35 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:04:35 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jobs that are no more In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29292.12.181.211.35.1269464675.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > On 3/24/10, Lenny Seidman wrote: > >> A lot of printing related jobs have also gone...like plate makers, film >> and >> negative strippers ( I know that will bring on some comments ;) and >> engravers. > > And the people that understood the issue of widowed and orphaned lines > on a page. Started when "Pagemaker" came out, and the office drone > was tasked with putting out a "news letter" and knew nothing of > design. > One of the coolest machines I have seen is a Linotype machine> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linotype_machine Very cool how it can make metal castings on the fly. I saw one in a small printing shop in Bethlehem...about 30 years ago. Ride Safe, Joe From motoedde2 at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 21:06:02 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:06:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jobs that are no more In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > Interesting photo presentation on jobs that have gone bye-bye. > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124251060 > (WS) > > I wonder how many of the jobs folks here, will go bye-bye and I bet we > have some that jobs they have had have gone bye-bye. > Why exactly are you letting the liberal propaganda machine(NPR) infiltrate this list? Why hasn't Dick chastised you yet? -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 21:17:56 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:17:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jobs that are no more In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/24/10, edde m wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > > Interesting photo presentation on jobs that have gone bye-bye. > > > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124251060 > > (WS) > > > > I wonder how many of the jobs folks here, will go bye-bye and I bet we > > have some that jobs they have had have gone bye-bye. > > > > > Why exactly are you letting the liberal propaganda machine(NPR) > infiltrate this list? > Why hasn't Dick chastised you yet? Let me see if he has. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Mar 22 12:56:52 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:56:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] When open sights are important Message-ID: http://www.gizmag.com/jetprotect-cs300k-counter-surveillance-camera/14573/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=48e82a5ef7-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Mar 22 18:25:50 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:25:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Be prepared to be chased bown by a BMW car In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > engine: > > http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aCO8Mt6m43HU > > This will be the shell: > http://www.carbonmotors.com/ > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ambassador BMW MOA ? | Ah Yes, The old energy-efficient shell game for a mere $310 Million. -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra u?op ?p?sdn pl?o? ?? p?u?n? s?? ???qO From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Mar 22 18:31:49 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:31:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Did you ever consider the half-life of a slider? In-Reply-To: <8bafeb801003221103q79cd511fie2c249fdf704e9c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <281075477.1397921269265999603.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1372369979.1399471269266183580.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8bafeb801003221103q79cd511fie2c249fdf704e9c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Michael Cantwell wrote: > In the 2004 documentary "Super Size Me" they did an experiment like > this. I believe this is the excerpt from the film.... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on6BSfHlK_w > Do you want perpetual fries with that? -- BMW-Dick "A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~ Yogi Berra u?op ?p?sdn pl?o? ?? p?u?n? s?? ???qO From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Mar 22 23:49:47 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:49:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Be careful out there; rider down In-Reply-To: <4BA7FEAE.4020509@argolis.org> References: <4BA7FEAE.4020509@argolis.org> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Matt Piechota wrote: > I just want to remind everyone on the list to be careful today. ?A > friend of mine died Sunday night in a motorcycle crash in Buffalo. ?I > don't really have any details other than he rear-ended a car on the > highway and was thrown from the bike; the bike crashed into the guard > rail and burst into flames. > > We all know that riding is an inherently dangerous past-time. ?I think > there's a ying and yang that the risk is a little of what makes you feel > alive while riding. ?Just remember to manage that risk and be aware of > your surroundings. > > -Matt > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > Sorry to hear about your friend, Matt. As a survivor of two-wheeled stupidity, I can attest to the importance of managing risk and staying aware. It's either that or let Riepe lead and be the buffer. -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 11:50:42 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:50:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 19th annual Motorcycle and Scooter Ride to Work Day is Monday, June 21st. Message-ID: This year, the 19th annual Motorcycle and Scooter Ride to Work Day is Monday, June 21st. -- BMW-Dick "Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death" Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775. From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 15:41:36 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:41:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The Great Reneger In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003230808u130c8702scd46347808fe6815@mail.gmail.com> References: <4BA8D624.1070404@ptd.net> <8296f6de1003230808u130c8702scd46347808fe6815@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Michael Evans wrote: > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Chris wrote: >> Yeah, it's political. ?If you dont want political...dont watch. ?Catchy >> tune though if you ask me! >> >> >> Chris Jaccarino > > The polit stuff I can deal with as I consider myself an open-minded > and intelligent individual. > > I judge from the lyrics of this song that the song's author is > surprised the current president is, in fact, a politician. That alone > does not seem to speak highly for his intelligence. > > What I really have issue with here is the underlying play on words in > the title. I get from this a very racist statement that, regardless of > political belief or party affiliation, is hurtful to society as a > whole. I'm sorry to see that you passed this along Chris. > > -- > Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > Mike: Until you mentioned it, I saw nothing racial about this video. I still doubt that the parody writer was crafting a racial slur. Our President has a clear history of reneging on his campaign promises and more, and that's all I took away from the video. Having once been a Liberal Democrat, I may be naive, but I've never considered The President's race an issue. I was delighted that America broke through a racial barrier with his election, although I would have preferred someone else as the instrument of change. I'm sure Chris saw nothing racial about the video either. "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder." -- BMW-Dick Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775. From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 17:39:14 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:39:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The Great Reneger In-Reply-To: References: <4BA8D624.1070404@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Erik Hoet wrote: (SNIPPED TO BITS) > > I think you'll find many campaign promises have a way of not > happening. ?They call it politics for a reason. > > EPH > Erik: Politics by its very nature is promises unfulfilled and unrequited love with large doses of deception and more than occasional thievery. Why would any of us have expected the current administration or the Congressional toadies to set higher standards than we've seen in at least the past 50 years? -- BMW-Dick Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775. From bmwdick at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 11:28:03 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:28:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] How God Made Maryland -- No Moto Content Message-ID: How God Made Maryland God was missing for six days. On the seventh day, Michael, the archangel, found him - resting. He inquired, "Oh great God.....where have you been?" God smiled deeply and proudly pointed downwards through the clouds. "Look Michael. Look what I've made." Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, "What is it?" "It's a planet" replied God, and I've put life on it, and?I'm going to call it Earth;?it's going to be a place to test balance." "Balance?" inquired Michael, "I'm confused." God explained, pointing to different parts of Earth. "For example, he said northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and wealth, while southern Europe is going to be poor. Over here I've placed a continent of white people, and over there is a continent of black people. Balance in all things." God continued pointing to different countries. "This area will be extremely hot, while this one will be very cold and covered in ice." The Archangel?was impressed by God's work, then pointed to a land area and asked, "What's that one?" "That's Maryland , the most glorious place on earth. There are beautiful mountains, ocean, rivers and streams, lakes, forests, hills and plains. The people from Maryland are going to be handsome, modest, intelligent and humorous, and they are going to travel the world. They will be extremely sociable, hardworking, high achieving, carriers of peace and producers of good things." Michael gasped in wonder and admiration, but then asked, "But... what about balance, God? You said there would be balance." God smiled and said, "right next to Maryland is Washington, DC. Wait 'till you see the idiots I place there." -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 11:39:25 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:39:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] A timely joke Message-ID: A cowboy named Bud was overseeing his herd in a remote mountainous pasture in California when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced out of a dust cloud towards him. The driver, a young man in a Brioni suit, Gucci shoes, RayBan sunglasses and YSL tie, leans out the window and asks the cowboy, 'If I tell you exactly how many cows and calves you have in your herd, Will you give me a calf?' Bud looks at the man, obviously a yuppie, then looks at his peacefully grazing herd and calmly answers, 'Sure, Why not?' The yuppie parks his car, whips out his Dell notebook computer, connects it to his Cingular RAZR V3 cell phone, and surfs to a NASA page on the Internet, where he calls up a GPS satellite to get an exact fix on his location which he then feeds to another NASA satellite that scans the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo. The young man then opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshop and exports it to an image processing facility in Hamburg, Germany Within seconds, he receives an email on his Palm Pilot that the image has been processed and the data stored. He then accesses an MS-SQL database through an ODBC connected Excel spreadsheet with email on his Blackberry and, after a few minutes, receives a response. Finally, he prints out a full-color, 150-page report on his hi-tech, miniaturized HP LaserJet printer and finally turns to the cowboy and says, 'You have exactly 1,586 cows and calves.' 'That's right. Well, I guess you can take one of my calves,' says Bud. He watches the young man select one of the animals and looks on amused as the young man stuffs it into the trunk of his car. Then the Bud says to the young man, 'Hey, if I can tell you exactly what your business is, will you give me back my calf?' The young man thinks about it for a second and then says, 'Okay, why not? 'You're a Congressman for the U.S. Government',says Bud. 'Wow! That's correct,' says the yuppie, 'but how did you guess that?' 'No guessing required.' answered the cowboy. 'You showed up here even though nobody called you; you want to get paid for an answer I already knew, to a question I never asked. You tried to show me how much smarter than me you are; and you don't know a thing about cows...this is a herd of sheep. Now give me back my dog. -- BMW-Dick From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 21:22:42 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:22:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jobs that are no more In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/24/10, Brian Curry wrote: > On 3/24/10, edde m wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > > > Interesting photo presentation on jobs that have gone bye-bye. > > > > > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124251060 > > > (WS) > > > > Why exactly are you letting the liberal propaganda machine(NPR) > > infiltrate this list? > > Why hasn't Dick chastised you yet? > > > Let me see if he has. Nope. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From tpcutter at aol.com Wed Mar 24 21:56:04 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:56:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New from Segway Message-ID: <8CC99B3EF5C1203-1EA4-8DC1@webmail-m003.sysops.aol.com> http://www.segway.com/en-v/ Hmmm...which end is up? --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From motoedde2 at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 22:01:45 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:01:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New from Segway In-Reply-To: <8CC99B3EF5C1203-1EA4-8DC1@webmail-m003.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC99B3EF5C1203-1EA4-8DC1@webmail-m003.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Tom Cutter wrote: > http://www.segway.com/en-v/ > > Hmmm...which end is up? > > > -- > Tom Cutter > Yardley, PA > http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com > > ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? This is how my bailout money was spent by GM? Can I claim a charitable donation for the federal taxes that are with held from my paycheck? WtF?!?!? -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 00:51:17 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:51:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jobs that are no more In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/24/10, Dick wrote: > >> > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124251060 > >> > > (WS) > >> > > >> > Why exactly are you letting the liberal propaganda machine(NPR) > >> > infiltrate this list? > >> > Why hasn't Dick chastised you yet? > >> > >> Let me see if he has. > > > > Nope. > > > (SNIP) > > > Why me? What am I, the list Troglodyte? You were told why. Others are working for "similar" status. If it makes you feel better, you are not alone in the barrel. > Anyone want to work for the IRS? There are 15,000 new IRS enforcement > jobs in the Health Care bill to make sure that folks buy health > insurance or pay fines. Some might just consider that enriching the target environment. Marge might be getting rid of her plane before the gubbment clamps down on anyone that flys them cause they might be kamikazes too. Besides not being good at science and math schools might not be good at history either. Or the "history enrichment" has brushed aside that which might be more significant. So, that repetition can occur. :(:(:( -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From doehler at verizon.net Thu Mar 25 00:40:56 2010 From: doehler at verizon.net (Dave Oehler) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:40:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jobs that are no more References: Message-ID: <1BFFB2ED76594835941BD3337F4446EE@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Curry" To: "Mac-Pac" Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:21 PM Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jobs that are no more > Interesting photo presentation on jobs that have gone bye-bye. > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124251060 > (WS) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Switchboard Operator was not that long ago in my mind. One of my friends lived a couple towns away and did not have a private line. You would call the number and the operator would need to connected you to his house. I think it was fall of 1983 that Bryant Pond Maine shut down the old hand crank switchboard and went to private lines. Dave From jerrycline at hotmail.com Thu Mar 25 03:39:58 2010 From: jerrycline at hotmail.com (Jerry Cline) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:39:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] March Riders' Dinner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I will be there.... Jerry Cline 610 457 5757 mailto:jerrycline at hotmail.com > From: kgbruce at verizon.net > To: mac-pac-l at jtan.com > Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:57:35 -0400 > Subject: [MAC-PAC] March Riders' Dinner > > Its Spring, its beautiful, the snow is gone and nearly so is March! So, > I'll get right to the point... > > RIDERS' DINNER next Wednesday night, March 31st at the Drafting Room in > Exton, PA @ 6:30 > p.m. > http://www.draftingroom.com/exton/site_files/EX_info.html# > > Early forecast for next Wednesday night is darn near perfect spring riding > weather....even if its not, come on out to the Riders' Dinner. The > Drafting > Room does a nice job with good food & great brews (FTOYWDB) > > If you can, give me a heads up if you intend to attend so I can inform > (warn) the restaurant. If you don't know til the last minute, that's OK, > just show up! > > That's it, short n sweet! I have to get this out now! > > Come on out to the Riders' Dinner next Wednesday night! > > Thanks, > > Ken Bruce > > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 04:56:10 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:56:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Pictures from when there was REAL racing at Daytona _Beach__!!! Message-ID: http://www.life.com/image/ugc1020972/in-gallery/37202/daytona-motorcycle-madness-1948 (WS AMAZING) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com Thu Mar 25 11:04:04 2010 From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:04:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Arctic Alchemy adventure Message-ID: Look at what a couple of my friends are doing this summer. It's motorcycles, adventure, history and beer. "Discoveries of the Red Hand" It, maybe, can't get cooler than that. Go to www.arcticalchemy.com These folks are based just up in Bethlehem. One is from near Ithaca. Todd Byrum Gilbertsville, pa From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Thu Mar 25 11:18:44 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jobs that are no more In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <509848949.2872201269515924903.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> My grandfather on my Dad's side was an iceman in Philadelphia. They had a nice home with a stable in the back for the wagon horses. They were relatively well off during the depression when others were struggling mightily. Mom's family was in motorcycles, they did not do so well during the depression. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From mrmevans at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 12:21:02 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:21:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Job Opportunity for Discerning Men? Message-ID: <8296f6de1003250521r652a6d53hb0c425c002a249da@mail.gmail.com> According to an article in the New York Post DIsney's latest casting call for the film "Pirates of the Caribbean - 4" specifes actresses with artificially enhanced breasts need not apply. The article states the specific requirements as listed in the casting call are "...beautiful female fit models. Must be 5ft7in-5ft8in, size 4 or 6, no bigger or smaller. Age 18-25. Must have a lean dancer body. Must have real breasts. Do not submit if you have implants." According to the article, "...potential lassies will have to undergo a Hollywood-style jiggle-your-jugs test and jog for judges." Anyone want to apply for the judging job? Full article at: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/real_booby_booty_hAZOnlKHK0z1CvDaDgkU8M -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From wayne at 2zars.com Thu Mar 25 12:37:31 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:37:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Job Opportunity for Discerning Men? In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003250521r652a6d53hb0c425c002a249da@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003250521r652a6d53hb0c425c002a249da@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7fbead931003250537x521dea06u1c21a23b6b8f18df@mail.gmail.com> > According to an article in the New York Post DIsney's latest casting > call for the film "Pirates of the Caribbean - 4" specifes actresses > with artificially enhanced breasts need not apply. The article states > the specific requirements as listed in the casting call are > "...beautiful female fit models. Must be 5ft7in-5ft8in, size 4 or 6, > no bigger or smaller. Age 18-25. Must have a lean dancer body. Must > have real breasts. Do not submit if you have implants." I guess that excludes most women in LA, doesn't it? Years ago, a friend sent me a 'Breast Test' excel worksheet and naturally, I saved it. For the benefit of the 'pac, I posted it on my site. http://www.2zars.com/breast_test_2.xls (NSFW) I recall I scored VERY high, if not a perfect score, maybe 1 wrong. -- Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Mar 25 12:38:59 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:38:59 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Motor question Message-ID: <39310.12.181.211.35.1269520739.squirrel@12.181.211.35> I have an electric motor question that is a little beyond my current scope of knowledge. I am buying a small motorized press (think drill press) that has a ~1/9 hp motor. The tool will ultimately be used in Hungary, but I want to develop the tooling here in Hatfield. I can order the machine with any motor. What I would like to do is order the machine with a 220V 50Hz motor, but run it on 220V 60Hz during the prototype phase. Is this possible? The motor is highly under stressed. I expect it will never see more than a 10-20% duty cycle and even when it is running it will be just about idling. (Think about a drill press drilling 1/32" holes in plastic.) Machine speed is not critical, so if it runs at 1800 rpm normally and only 1500 rpm during development that is OK. Can any of you EE's on the list help me out? Ride Safe, Joe From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Mar 25 12:40:56 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:40:56 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Job Opportunity for Discerning Men? In-Reply-To: <7fbead931003250537x521dea06u1c21a23b6b8f18df@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003250521r652a6d53hb0c425c002a249da@mail.gmail.com> <7fbead931003250537x521dea06u1c21a23b6b8f18df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40392.12.181.211.35.1269520856.squirrel@12.181.211.35> >> According to an article in the New York Post DIsney's latest casting >> call for the film "Pirates of the Caribbean - 4" specifes actresses >> with artificially enhanced breasts need not apply. The article states >> the specific requirements as listed in the casting call are >> "...beautiful female fit models. Must be 5ft7in-5ft8in, size 4 or 6, >> no bigger or smaller. Age 18-25. Must have a lean dancer body. Must >> have real breasts. Do not submit if you have implants." > > I guess that excludes most women in LA, doesn't it? > That is what Jay Leno said last night. I wonder if the casting couch will be replaced with the casting trampoline? Ride Safe, Joe From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 13:00:56 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:00:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Motor question In-Reply-To: <39310.12.181.211.35.1269520739.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <39310.12.181.211.35.1269520739.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Joe Dille wrote: > I have an electric motor question that is a little beyond my current scope > of knowledge. ?I am buying a small motorized press (think drill press) > that has a ~1/9 hp motor. ?The tool will ultimately be used in Hungary, > but I want to develop the tooling here in Hatfield. ?I can order the > machine with any motor. > > What I would like to do is order the machine with a 220V 50Hz motor, but > run it on 220V 60Hz during the prototype phase. ?Is this possible? ?The > motor is highly under stressed. ?I expect it will never see more than a > 10-20% duty cycle and even when it is running it will be just about > idling. ?(Think about a drill press drilling 1/32" holes in plastic.) > > Machine speed is not critical, so if it runs at 1800 rpm normally and only > 1500 rpm during development that is OK. > > Can any of you EE's on the list help me out? > > Ride Safe, > > Joe > > _______________________________________________ Joe; Normally this is workable. The other way is not good, as the 60 hz motor heats up dramatically at 50hz. Presumably you are using single phase 208V? or 240? (220V is not commonly available here. unless you have a Xfmr with taps that you can adjust.) 208v would be preferred if you have a choice. >From http://www.eng-tips.com/faqs.cfm?fid=1224 So looking at the case shifting a 50Hz motor to 60Hz duty. a) It will turn 20% faster. (Contrary to your assumption above!!!!!) b) The cooling will increase dramatically. (Duh, the internal fan spins faster !) c) The load's horsepower requirement will (may?) increase, possibly dramatically. (Depends on the process, caused by the 20% increase in speed) d) The V/f will drop which will not cause a current draw increase You should discuss what the load will do when sped up 20% with someone knowledgeable with that type of load. (Presumably that's you, Joe) If the load can take the speed increase then run the load and promptly check the motor's current draw. If it is under the FLA you should have no other problems. See also http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=98559 Given your intended very light duty cycle, I would not be overly concerned about heating effects on the motor, but you should give it a check. HTH Erik H From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 14:24:01 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:24:01 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Motor question In-Reply-To: References: <39310.12.181.211.35.1269520739.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: On 3/25/10, Erik Hoet wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Joe Dille > If the load can take the speed increase then run the load and > promptly check the motor's current draw. If it is under the FLA you > should have no other problems. > > See also > http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=98559 > > Given your intended very light duty cycle, I would not be overly > concerned about heating effects on the motor, but you should give it a > check. There with Erik. IMO the big thing is to MEASURE the current. If the current is low, then you are fine. It will not overheat and kill itself that way. With the higher frequency the magnetic coupling is tighter and the slip decreases less. The rotor lags the stator's magnetic field less than at 50Hz. Interesting effect. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From tpcutter at aol.com Thu Mar 25 14:24:32 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:24:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Motor question In-Reply-To: <39310.12.181.211.35.1269520739.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <39310.12.181.211.35.1269520739.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <8CC9A3E059FF2D3-1B58-2831@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> <> Joe- Where's your sense oaf adventure? You don't need no steenkin' EE! Plug it in and turn it on. The possible outcomes are: 1) Doesn't run. 2) Trips circuit breaker. 3) Runs with smoke release. 4) Runs fine, maybe a little slow or fast. All outcomes are within your range of skills to handle. Plug it in. The EE's will bury you in 'what-if.' --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 14:33:02 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:33:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Motor question In-Reply-To: <8CC9A3E059FF2D3-1B58-2831@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> References: <39310.12.181.211.35.1269520739.squirrel@12.181.211.35> <8CC9A3E059FF2D3-1B58-2831@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 3/25/10, Tom Cutter wrote: > Plug it in. > > The EE's will bury you in 'what-if.' Really? Two didn't. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Mar 25 14:34:31 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:34:31 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Motor question In-Reply-To: <8CC9A3E059FF2D3-1B58-2831@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> References: <39310.12.181.211.35.1269520739.squirrel@12.181.211.35> <8CC9A3E059FF2D3-1B58-2831@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <41848.12.181.211.35.1269527671.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > > < scope of knowledge. Snip... > Joe- > > Where's your sense oaf adventure? > > You don't need no steenkin' EE! > > Plug it in and turn it on. The possible outcomes are: > > 1) Doesn't run. > 2) Trips circuit breaker. > 3) Runs with smoke release. > 4) Runs fine, maybe a little slow or fast. > > All outcomes are within your range of skills to handle. > You overestimate me. I don't have the skills to cover my a** when a $10,000 piece of equipment starts releasing smoke. If there is a smoke release it will probably take 4 weeks to get a shipment of European smoke to fix the problem. I don't want to delay the program. Todd/Eric, thanks for your reply. That is what I expected. Things will be OK electrically, but will spin faster. The work-head has an orbital eccentric in it and this may have issue with the 20% overspeed as the loads will go up with the square of the speed. I am checking with the manufacturer. Thanks four your help. ride Safe, Joe From tpcutter at aol.com Thu Mar 25 14:45:45 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:45:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Motor question In-Reply-To: <41848.12.181.211.35.1269527671.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <39310.12.181.211.35.1269520739.squirrel@12.181.211.35> <8CC9A3E059FF2D3-1B58-2831@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> <41848.12.181.211.35.1269527671.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <8CC9A40FCA3E052-1A50-333B@webmail-d050.sysops.aol.com> <> You need an American Smoke Converter. Hoet can design one for you. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 14:54:47 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: How is your town doing on being "enumerated"???? Message-ID: http://2010.census.gov/2010census/take10map/ (WS, Interactive uses Google Maps and builds on it.) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 15:00:21 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:00:21 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Pictures from when there was REAL racing at Daytona _Beach__!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4a4431121003250800l1666db04la4b9a02df1d823c8@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > http://www.life.com/image/ugc1020972/in-gallery/37202/daytona-motorcycle-madness-1948 > (WS AMAZING) Fantastic!! I was there for the beach race in 1957 at age 12. It truly was spectacular, although the 45 cubic inch flatheads were were more like today's scooters speed wise, the noise and action was much more exciting than today's Daytona snooze fest 200. Got my picture taken with the race winner and Gordon Davidson (Son of H-D founder) at the H-D banquet after the race (still have them). Dano From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Thu Mar 25 15:19:32 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: How is your town doing on being "enumerated"???? In-Reply-To: <1896238076.2996961269530367089.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1136605266.2997071269530372529.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I got my warning post card. You know the one that says, "The Census is coming!" then I got another that said, "Its almost here!"Then I got the census, filled it out and sent it back that day. Since then I have gotten two more post cards asking me to send it back. Seems like a waste. A bunch of folks threw it away the first time. I do not know how many billions of dollars are being wasted and I really do not want to know. In my township we have a lady that calls once a year. She knows the skinny on everything and everyone that lives in our town. (She even sends out congrats cards when new children are born into a family in town) Why don't the feds simply coordinate with the local folks and get the info they need? John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Curry" To: "Mac-Pac" Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:54:47 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: How is your town doing on being "enumerated"???? http://2010.census.gov/2010census/take10map/ (WS, Interactive uses Google Maps and builds on it.) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100325/7f8ea7dd/attachment.html From chrisjac at ptd.net Thu Mar 25 15:32:38 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:32:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: How is your town doing on being "enumerated"???? In-Reply-To: <1136605266.2997071269530372529.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1136605266.2997071269530372529.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4BAB8216.5020500@ptd.net> johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > Why don't the feds simply coordinate with the local folks and get the info they need? > If you are asking that question, you do not understand the purpose of the federal govt. BTW, by law, the only info you have to give the Census is how many live in your household...nothing more. Chris Jaccarino From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Thu Mar 25 15:45:37 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? Message-ID: <1083450243.3013041269531937187.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I am looking to tap into the collective wisdom of the pac. My yard is close to an acre and last year I basically had to rake the whole thing every time I mowed. That gets old, and my kids are not big enough to do it yet. I have a John Deere mower and I can get a bagger for it, but I have read that they clog easily and often. I have read that a yard sweeper that tows behind the tractor my be the right tool for the job, but most of the stuff I find online is about them picking up leaves and not newly cut grass. Anyone have any experience with either of these things? John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 16:00:09 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:00:09 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? In-Reply-To: <1083450243.3013041269531937187.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1083450243.3013041269531937187.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4a4431121003250900p2ec91378h2d09b7923b1aaac0@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:45 AM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > I am looking to tap into the collective wisdom of the pac. My yard is close to an acre and last year I basically had to rake the whole thing every time I mowed. That gets old, and my kids are not big enough to do it yet. I have a John Deere mower and I can get a bagger for it, but I have read that they clog easily and often. I have read that a yard sweeper that tows behind the tractor my be the right tool for the job, but most of the stuff I find online is about them picking up leaves and not newly cut grass. Anyone have any experience with either of these things? > > John Clauss John, I had a little over an acre in York and never worried about clippings. Never saw a negative effect from it as long as it doesn't grow too tall and leave hay like residue. But even then, it goes away next mowing. I guess I'd rather be riding than farming grass. Dano From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 16:18:30 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:18:30 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? In-Reply-To: <1083450243.3013041269531937187.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1083450243.3013041269531937187.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:45 AM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > I am looking to tap into the collective wisdom of the pac. My yard is close to an acre and last year I basically had to rake the whole thing every time I mowed. That gets old, and my kids are not big enough to do it yet. I have a John Deere mower and I can get a bagger for it, but I have read that they clog easily and often. I have read that a yard sweeper that tows behind the tractor my be the right tool for the job, but most of the stuff I find online is about them picking up leaves and not newly cut grass. Anyone have any experience with either of these things? > > John Clauss John; Current wisdom is to bag the bagging. Too much work, no benefit. Generates trash which fills up the landfill. Why????? See http://en.allexperts.com/q/Lawns-725/Mulching-vs-Bagging.htm http://www.allaboutlawns.com/lawn-mowing-mowers/should-i-bag-or-mulch-the-clippings.php http://home.howstuffworks.com/mulch-vs-bag-grass.htm ------------------------------------------------- By all means do mulch the clippings. Bagging is a vaste of natural resources. The only time I bag clippings is in early spring, or when the grass has become too long, when mowing would cause the clippings to fall and mat the grass. If you mow weekly (preferably twice weekly in late spring and early fall) and mulch mow, the clippings should fall between the regular grass and not mat down. The grass clippings contain natural organic fertilizer nutrients, especially nitrogen which the lawn requires in high amounts. Also mulching (mowing which cuts the pieces into small pieces which fall into the lawn) helps aerate the lawn and keep the soil surface moist which makes for a greener, and nicer lawn. E.g. mow weekly and try not to cut more than 1/3 of the length of the grass at any single mowing. E.g. if grass is 3" tall, cut it no lower than 2", if it is 6" tall mow it no lower than 4". Try to keep the lawn at 2.5-3.5" tall at all times (meassured after cutting the grass. Use a ruler the first time, and the note the mower deck setting for future). You can keep the mowing deck height the same for the entire season. May/June you may have to mow twice per week because grass at this time grow very fast. Same in september. However, most other times of the year, once per week is fine (even once every 10-14 days in mid summer when cool season grass grow less prolifically). Cut the grass 2.5-3.5" tall (measuered after mowing) and try to mow the lawn before the grass becomes 4-5" tall. Mulch mowing is better than side-discharging because the mulching attachment helps cut the grass clippings into fine pieces which fall between the grass plants. From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 16:28:36 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:28:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: How is your town doing on being "enumerated"???? In-Reply-To: <1136605266.2997071269530372529.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1896238076.2996961269530367089.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1136605266.2997071269530372529.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:19 AM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > I got my warning post card. You know the one that says, "The Census is coming!" then I got another that said, "Its almost here!"Then I got the census, filled it out and sent it back that day. Since then I have gotten two more post cards asking me to send it back. Seems like a waste. A bunch of folks threw it away the first time. I do not know how many billions of dollars are being wasted and I really do not want to know. > john; Cards and letters are a couple of cents to send. Paying a census working $56 (avg cost) to come to your house is a total waste of taxpayer $$ whhn the household is too whatever to be bothered to send in the form. The payoff for the census is if they can reduce the no-reply rate by only a few %, they save big bucks. They have publicly stated so, and this has been reported in many news outlets. Few towns have the nice lady that knows everyone who could do this for you, as you suggested. Further, if she's really nice, she already applied for a job with the Census so she could provide that service for your community. That would be up to her. As for the wing nut concerns about answering extraneous questions, there aren't any. More BS as usual. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=census+letters which on the first hit gets you http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2010-03-16-census-letters_N.htm Erik Hoet From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Mar 25 16:55:29 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:55:29 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? In-Reply-To: References: <1083450243.3013041269531937187.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <26214.12.181.211.35.1269536129.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:45 AM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John > Clauss) wrote: >> I am looking to tap into the collective wisdom of the pac. My yard is >> close to an acre and last year I basically had to rake the whole thing >> every time I mowed. That gets old, and my kids are not big enough to do >> it yet. I have a John Deere mower and I can get a bagger for it, but I >> have read that they clog easily and often. I have read that a yard >> sweeper that tows behind the tractor my be the right tool for the job, >> but most of the stuff I find online is about them picking up leaves and >> not newly cut grass. Anyone have any experience with either of these >> things? >> >> John Clauss > > John; > > Current wisdom is to bag the bagging. Too much work, no benefit. > Generates trash which fills up the landfill. I agree with Eric. Just mulch it into the grass and everything seems to go well. Ride Safe, Joe From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 17:00:04 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:00:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? In-Reply-To: <1083450243.3013041269531937187.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1083450243.3013041269531937187.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On 3/25/10, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > I am looking to tap into the collective wisdom of the pac. My yard is close to an acre and last year I basically had to rake the whole thing every time I mowed. My question would be "Why????" I have 2 acres. I have NEVER bagged or collected anything. I have left it "go to seed" and then mowed it. It was about 2-3' tall at that point. Grass kept growing. I will occasionally get some "lines" of clippings. The grass might look a bit funny under it the new mow, but it comes back no problem when it is uncovered. So, "Why????" -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Thu Mar 25 17:03:58 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? In-Reply-To: <2065884550.3051961269536597796.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <938091381.3052341269536638194.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > > Current wisdom is to bag the bagging. Too much work, no benefit. > Generates trash which fills up the landfill. I have tried that. I get lovely piles of dead grass. There is simply too much there and it piles up, I need to pick it up somehow. I have tried the blades and mower deck and the problem persists. All my clipping go in a pile in the wooded area of my property. So they are not going to a landfill. I am starting to get soil from the pile as well! John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Thu Mar 25 17:10:41 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:10:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? In-Reply-To: <1303956686.3055011269536978701.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <966535629.3055621269537041651.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >I have left it "go to seed" and then mowed it. It was about 2-3' tall >at that point. Grass kept growing. If I do that I will have a nice police officer at my door. Our township will not tolerate that in a subdivision, which is fine by me. If I lived in the woods by myself I would and could do that, but I am in a community. When the house next door went up on foreclosure my neighbor and I took turns mowing that yard so we would not have to deal with the critters and allergies that also come with that. So letting it go to seed is not an option. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 17:11:18 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:11:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: How is your town doing on being "enumerated"???? In-Reply-To: References: <1896238076.2996961269530367089.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1136605266.2997071269530372529.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On 3/25/10, Erik Hoet the good sheep wrote: > As for the wing nut concerns about answering extraneous questions, > there aren't any. More BS as usual. > > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=census+letters > > which on the first hit gets you > http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2010-03-16-census-letters_N.htm It depends if you believe in the "basis". If you want to make sure that you get "your share of the "Federal money" (Bawahahahahaha)" be sure to complete everything. If you figure that is a scam, you might do otherwise. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 17:14:00 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:14:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? In-Reply-To: <966535629.3055621269537041651.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1303956686.3055011269536978701.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <966535629.3055621269537041651.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On 3/25/10, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > > > >I have left it "go to seed" and then mowed it. It was about 2-3' tall > >at that point. Grass kept growing. > > If I do that I will have a nice police officer at my door. Our township will not tolerate that in a subdivision, which is fine by me. Fine. If I lived in the woods by myself I would and could do that, but I am in a community. When the house next door went up on foreclosure my neighbor and I took turns mowing that yard so we would not have to deal with the critters and allergies that also come with that. So letting it go to seed is not an option. I think you are missing the point. It is kinda like a word problem that if you take it to extremes you see if there is a problem, or one that needs to be mitigated. The point is that "cut grass" on the grass is not a problem to the grass. It is APPARENT that APPEARANCES is important to you. In which case it sounds like a personal problem. It is not a "raising" or "growing" grass problem. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From tpcutter at aol.com Thu Mar 25 17:44:41 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:44:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Pictures from when there was REAL racing at Daytona _Beach__!!! In-Reply-To: <4a4431121003250800l1666db04la4b9a02df1d823c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121003250800l1666db04la4b9a02df1d823c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC9A59FB5242EB-3330-5751@Webmail-m104.sysops.aol.com> < wrote:> http://www.life.com/image/ugc1020972/in-gallery/37202/daytona-motorcycle-madness-1948> (WS AMAZING)Fantastic!!I was there for the beach race in 1957 at age 12.>> Many of you guys who have doen RogerLyle Track Days have met Al Wilcox, our offficial Motorcycle Excitement Starter and Flagger, who is still going strong at the age of 91 years young. Al was IN the race featured in LIFE magazine, and he raced Daytona on the beach for 10 years between 1948 and 1959, with one year he missed. One year he finished second place. His stories alone are worth the price of admission to a track day. His "key" to staying alive to age 91? "I've never tasted nicotine or alcohol" says Al. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From tpcutter at aol.com Thu Mar 25 17:49:46 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:49:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: How is your town doing on being "enumerated"???? In-Reply-To: <1136605266.2997071269530372529.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CC9A5AB126B76E-3330-589F@Webmail-m104.sysops.aol.com> <> I grew up in a own where the Postmaster knew a little too much about everybody's business. Remember the song "Harper Valley PTA" by Jeannie C. Riley? That's what happens when your neighbors are watching you. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 18:21:08 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:21:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Past performance is no assurance of future performance Message-ID: the usual disclaimer on financial stuff. However past performance if BAD does not reassure one that the future performance will be "better". http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-406577.html (WS) The IRS has sucked in the past, still remains vulnerable, is hiring "more people" and will be right in the middle of "healthcare" with all its records. Oh, that is SO reassuring. It might be time to bone up on "drinking heavily" cause I already ride motorcyles in the rain and fast at times. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 18:28:27 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:28:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Somehow I don't think the hand-ringing is going to have a net positive effect Message-ID: It is apparent to me that jawboning is NOT working. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/26/world/africa/26pirate.html I loved this statement: " The death of the attacker also raised legal questions about the accountability of private teams, a United Nations official said." How about the "accountability" of the attackers? I can guess what happened here: "It was not clear what had happened to the body of the slain attacker." They might have followed historical actions. I wonder if the attackers know how to swim? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From rcavalie at verizon.net Thu Mar 25 18:47:59 2010 From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? In-Reply-To: <1083450243.3013041269531937187.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1083450243.3013041269531937187.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <002801cacc4b$b117a210$1346e630$@net> -----Original Message----- From: mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com [mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com] On Behalf Of johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:46 AM To: Mac Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? << I am looking to tap into the collective wisdom of the pac. My yard is close to an acre and last year I basically had to rake the whole thing every time I mowed. That gets old, and my kids are not big enough to do it yet. I have a John Deere mower and I can get a bagger for it, but I have read that they clog easily and often. I have read that a yard sweeper that tows behind the tractor my be the right tool for the job, but most of the stuff I find online is about them picking up leaves and not newly cut grass. Anyone have any experience with either of these things? >> SNIPPAGE Setting aside the decision of whether or not to bag the clippings, a bagger works much better than a sweeper. John Deere probably makes a good bagger to go with your riding mower. Grass clippings make a good mulch for gardens if not applied when fresh or too thickly. As you pointed out, they eventually become compost when stockpiled. I think you would realize a significant benefit in the Fall by using your mower/bagger to collect/shred leaves which would become prime compost very quickly. Rick Cavaliere From pasegc at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 19:31:28 2010 From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:31:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] March Riders' Dinner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Ken Bruce wrote: > ?RIDERS' DINNER next Wednesday night, March 31st at the Drafting Room in > Exton, PA @ 6:30 > ?p.m. > ?http://www.draftingroom.com/exton/site_files/EX_info.html# Sue and I be in attendance. Gerry Cavanaugh Coatesville, PA From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Mar 25 19:34:17 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:34:17 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? In-Reply-To: <002801cacc4b$b117a210$1346e630$@net> References: <1083450243.3013041269531937187.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <002801cacc4b$b117a210$1346e630$@net> Message-ID: <57843.12.181.211.35.1269545657.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? > > << I am looking to tap into the collective wisdom of the pac. My yard is > close to an acre and last year I basically had to rake the whole thing > every > time I mowed. That gets old, and my kids are not big enough to do it yet. > I > have a John Deere mower and I can get a bagger for it, but I have read > that > they clog easily and often. I have read that a yard sweeper that tows > behind > the tractor my be the right tool for the job, but most of the stuff I find > online is about them picking up leaves and not newly cut grass. Anyone > have > any experience with either of these things? >>> > SNIPPAGE > > Setting aside the decision of whether or not to bag the clippings, a > bagger > works much better than a sweeper. John Deere probably makes a good bagger > to > go with your riding mower. > I have to agree. Bagging works better than sweeping. When I used to sweep the lawn I would get only about 80%. The last 20% would "go away" the next day. Bagging is better if your goal is 100%. Ride Safe, Joe From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 19:57:56 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:57:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Somehow I don't think the hand-ringing is going to have a net positive effect In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > It is apparent to me that jawboning is NOT working. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/26/world/africa/26pirate.html > > I loved this statement: " The death of the attacker also raised legal > questions about the accountability of private teams, a United Nations > official said." > > How about the "accountability" of the attackers? > > I can guess what happened here: "It was not clear what had happened to > the body of the slain attacker." ?They might have followed historical > actions. > > I wonder if the attackers know how to swim? > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Attacks continue because the opportunity cost to the pirates is still pretty low. And it will not change until it becomes more costly to them. Both in terms of men and material. When 50% of them don't return home, and their boats turn up MIA, the pirates will start re-thinking their strategy. We also need to do something to stabilize the home country. How to do that is another mystery...... EPH From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 20:07:05 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:07:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Somehow I don't think the hand-ringing is going to have a net positive effect In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/25/10, Erik Hoet wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > > It is apparent to me that jawboning is NOT working. > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/26/world/africa/26pirate.html (WS) > And it will not change until it becomes more costly to them. Both in > terms of men and material. > > When 50% of them don't return home, and their boats turn up MIA, the > pirates will start re-thinking their strategy. Yes, and something can be done about that by those affected.. I believe there is historical precedent for that. > We also need to do something to stabilize the home country. How to > do that is another mystery...... Hate to say it but "not my job". It takes a LOT of societal change, and getting that going is TOUGH. It comes from the inside that "what we have is not working." Right now for those "in power" it is working for them. And that is who they care about. We have experience at "nation building" of others. Not a light task at all. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From chrisjac at ptd.net Thu Mar 25 21:46:35 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:46:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? In-Reply-To: <938091381.3052341269536638194.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <938091381.3052341269536638194.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4BABD9BB.7030605@ptd.net> johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: >> Current wisdom is to bag the bagging. Too much work, no benefit. >> Generates trash which fills up the landfill. >> > > I have tried that. I get lovely piles of dead grass. There is simply too much there and it piles up, I need to pick it up somehow. I have tried the blades and mower deck and the problem persists. All my clipping go in a pile in the wooded area of my property. So they are not going to a landfill. I am starting to get soil from the pile as well! > > John Clauss > K1100RS > R75/6 > In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > > Without seeing your yard, I cant tell what you need. Maybe you have a thatch problem? If so ,time to get a tow behind detacher, pull up the dead crap, the thatch, and bag or sweep that stuff one time. Then you should be able to cut/mulch for the year without issue. From tpcutter at aol.com Thu Mar 25 21:49:05 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:49:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Somehow I don't think the hand-ringing is going to have a net positive effect In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC9A7C200D7150-3330-921F@Webmail-m104.sysops.aol.com> <> 50 megaton yield should take care of a lot of it. Beyond that, it is not our responsibility to "take care" of situations halfway across the globe when Americans will soon be eating twigs and leaves. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From mrmevans at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 22:21:22 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:21:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Somehow I don't think the hand-ringing is going to have a net positive effect In-Reply-To: <8CC9A7C200D7150-3330-921F@Webmail-m104.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9A7C200D7150-3330-921F@Webmail-m104.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003251521p17125284kad455e960190fa9b@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Tom Cutter wrote: > > 50 megaton yield should take care of a lot of it. > Some sort of defense capable of sinking the smaller vessels they use for these attacks should work fine. While bodies to man these attacks are likely readily available, the boats they use are not so I don't suspect it would take long to think the fleet. Now regulations regarding certain kinds of firearms aboard the ships might be a different story altogether - about that I know nothing. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From mrmevans at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 22:27:12 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:27:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: New from Apple? Message-ID: <8296f6de1003251527u79ae0b77i2bfb56b55c3c79d@mail.gmail.com> Not really certain of the purpose for this site, but I got a giggle out of this page. The links take you elsewhere uunrelated to this image. http://stewdio.org/iquit/ NSFW due to a large print F-word on the screen. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From brian at whatever2k.com Thu Mar 25 22:27:41 2010 From: brian at whatever2k.com (Brian Burdette) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:27:41 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? In-Reply-To: <4BABD9BB.7030605@ptd.net> References: <938091381.3052341269536638194.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4BABD9BB.7030605@ptd.net> Message-ID: <4BABE35D.7080800@whatever2k.com> > Without seeing your yard, I cant tell what you need. Maybe you have a > thatch problem? If so ,time to get a tow behind detacher, pull up the > dead crap, the thatch, and bag or sweep that stuff one time. Then you > should be able to cut/mulch for the year without issue. Dude. It is GRASS. Just let the thatch stay there and rot, it eventually becomes dirt anyway. I mow mine when it gets too tall to ride the dirtbikes without getting my boots wet, and then only when it's dry enough to get the tractor across the wettest parts. A dear friend of mine passed from heart failure while mowing a few years back, and since then I've never skipped riding to mow. I haven't regretted the prioritization change yet, and I often just hit the yard with the brush hog when I've been out riding too much. Maybe I should fence it off and get a couple goats. -- Brian Burdette -- brian at whatever2k dot com -- Pleasant Hill MO, USA From brian at whatever2k.com Thu Mar 25 22:23:53 2010 From: brian at whatever2k.com (Brian Burdette) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:23:53 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? In-Reply-To: <4BABD9BB.7030605@ptd.net> References: <938091381.3052341269536638194.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4BABD9BB.7030605@ptd.net> Message-ID: <4BABE279.30704@whatever2k.com> > Without seeing your yard, I cant tell what you need. Maybe you have a > thatch problem? If so ,time to get a tow behind detacher, pull up the > dead crap, the thatch, and bag or sweep that stuff one time. Then you > should be able to cut/mulch for the year without issue. Just let the thatch stay there and rot, it eventually becomes dirt anyway I mow mine when it gets too tall to ride the dirtbikes without getting my boots wet. A dear friend of mine passed from heart failure while mowing a few years back, and since then I've never skipped riding to mow. I haven't regretted the re prioritization yet, and I often just hit the yard with the brush hog when I've been out riding too much. I might fence it off and get a couple goats. -- Brian Burdette -- brian at whatever2k dot com -- Pleasant Hill MO, USA From jasiii at earthlink.net Thu Mar 25 23:28:50 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:28:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Horn Switch Message-ID: Before I go any further, I again, ask for guidance With the horn switch on a 96 R1100RS should it show a closed circuit when the button is pressed ?? I am betting that it should but before I order one I would rather ask another question. This would be across the green and brown wires with the round covers and the power off. Thanks in advance Jim (quiet in Delaware) From jasiii at earthlink.net Thu Mar 25 23:31:42 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:31:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 19th annual Motorcycle and Scooter Ride to Work Day is Monday, June 21st. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > This year, the 19th annual Motorcycle and Scooter Ride to Work Day is > Monday, June 21st. Aww Nuts... I will be retired then. Guess I can ride somewhere and just laugh at folks going to work. Jim -- Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From jasiii at earthlink.net Thu Mar 25 23:52:37 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:52:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? In-Reply-To: <1083450243.3013041269531937187.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I have a John Deere mower and I can get a bagger for it, but I have read that they clog easily and often. I have read that a yard sweeper that tows behind the tractor my be the right tool for the job, but most of the stuff I find online is about > John Clauss I have a much smaller yard but have been bagging and compossing for the past 20 years.. Our lot is only 70 x 110 and the compose "box" is 4 x 8 x 4 We have gotten a lot of very good soil from it. It takes about a year for it to break down but after the first year it just becomes routine. I just dig out from the bottom and turn the pile over once or twice a year. Yes I do need to empty the bag on the mower into a large trash can several times while mowing but bagging is better then raking (grin) Hope this helps Jim -- Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 00:07:12 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:07:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Horn Switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/25/10, James A. Sterling wrote: > Before I go any further, I again, ask for guidance > > With the horn switch on a 96 R1100RS should it show a closed circuit when > the button is pressed ?? I am betting that it should but before I order one > I would rather ask another question. > > This would be across the green and brown wires with the round covers and the > power off. You gotta be a software guy asking such a question. :):) If you look in the wiring diagram, you will see that it is energizing a relay. So, it about has to be closed on being depressed. You might try some exploration. If so, DO IT IN A PLASTIC BAG. Preferably clear so you can better see what you are doing. The bag will keep the little springs and balls from escaping into the corners to hang out with the spiders.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jaburke4 at verizon.net Fri Mar 26 00:16:44 2010 From: jaburke4 at verizon.net (John Burkhauser) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:16:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:? Laser ignition systems? Cool! Message-ID: <9CDC5A26-3731-4E59-96F3-3AC3D6198CD8@verizon.net> If Ford is thinking of it, what is BMW doing with it? http://workshop.search-autoparts.com/_Ford-Designing-a-Laser-Ignition-System/blog/2231940/31710.html John Burkhauser jaburke4 at verizon.net From jasiii at earthlink.net Fri Mar 26 00:24:54 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:24:54 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] March Riders' Dinner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > If you can, give me a heads up if you intend to attend so I can inform > (warn) the restaurant. If you don't know til the last minute, that's OK, > just show up! > > Ken Bruce Jim and Anita will be there Hopefully riding the bike but we will be there Jim -- Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Mar 26 00:33:19 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:33:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: New from Apple? In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003251527u79ae0b77i2bfb56b55c3c79d@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003251527u79ae0b77i2bfb56b55c3c79d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <240oq5t8n1afuul222ddducgv9kvf2rbm5@4ax.com> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:27:12 -0400, you wrote: >Not really certain of the purpose for this site, but I got a giggle >out of this page. The links take you elsewhere uunrelated to this >image. > >http://stewdio.org/iquit/ > >NSFW due to a large print F-word on the screen. Thats is brilliant! Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Mar 26 00:32:51 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:32:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:? Laser ignition systems? Cool! In-Reply-To: <9CDC5A26-3731-4E59-96F3-3AC3D6198CD8@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4BABC873.18174.115BF8F5@localhost> > If Ford is thinking of it, what is BMW doing with it? > http://workshop.search-autoparts.com/_Ford-Designing-a-Laser-Ignition- > System/blog/2231940/31710.html > > That is a great idea. If they can split the beam as they say and get several ignition points that will end the surging problem. It will also help reduce the burn time on these engines with 4" bores. New ignition fibers will be $$$. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 00:44:52 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:44:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:? Laser ignition systems? Cool! In-Reply-To: <4BABC873.18174.115BF8F5@localhost> References: <9CDC5A26-3731-4E59-96F3-3AC3D6198CD8@verizon.net> <4BABC873.18174.115BF8F5@localhost> Message-ID: On 3/25/10, Joe Dille wrote: > > If Ford is thinking of it, what is BMW doing with it? > > http://workshop.search-autoparts.com/_Ford-Designing-a-Laser-Ignition- > > System/blog/2231940/31710.html > > > That is a great idea. If they can split the beam as they say and get > several ignition points that will end the surging problem. It will > also help reduce the burn time on these engines with 4" bores. > > New ignition fibers will be $$$. Famous last words. They really should not be. They are short glass fibers. It is not like they are trans-Pacific communication fibres. Getting them into the cylinder head will be "interesting" and then connecting them to some control unit. Physical protection of the fibre will be an issue too. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Mar 26 00:46:49 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:46:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Interesting concept Message-ID: http://www.stumbleupon.com/ (WS) A FF plugin that finds website based on things you like. Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From llsorens at comcast.net Fri Mar 26 01:15:52 2010 From: llsorens at comcast.net (Linda Sorensen) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:15:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fw: OT: Jobs that are no more Message-ID: >> I wonder how many of the jobs folks here, will go bye-bye and I bet we >> have some that jobs they have had have gone bye-bye. A few years back, well maybe more than a few, I ran a typing pool (which is on the list) with 30 girls with head sets, mini-cassettes, and IBM selectric typewriters. And to this day I still can't type... without looking! Linda Sorensen From rsorens at comcast.net Fri Mar 26 02:03:03 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <75D2C179FDA4466EB9419C04D7F169FD@Tekki> >...I have left it "go to seed" and then mowed it. It was about 2-3' tall at that point. Grass kept growing. Brian; Why not take a page from Jim Robinson's book? GET A GOAT From rsorens at comcast.net Fri Mar 26 01:57:36 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:57:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7E3A1F7784E24C4293707ACE998CC2F1@Tekki> >>>> I have read that they clog easily and often. I have read that a yard sweeper that tows behind the tractor my be the right tool for the job, but most of the stuff I find online is about them picking up leaves and not newly cut grass. Anyone have any experience with either of these things? > > John Clauss John; Current wisdom is to bag the bagging. Too much work, no benefit. Generates trash which fills up the landfill. Why????? >>>> I have been bagging whenever I cut for over 15 yrs. If you run it until it is FULL, yeah it will clog; if you learn to empty it before it fills, no sweat. I have NEVER put my clippings out for the trash; I always put them in one of 3 or 4 areas I keep just for the purpose. Keep spreading it around, no problem. Have recently, stopped bagging all the time...not for environmental reasons, 'cause my bagger is sagging...ON THE MOWER!...so I just compost into the lawn. It's supposed to better for the lawn anyway. Rick From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 02:10:47 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:10:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lawn baggers or sweepers? In-Reply-To: <75D2C179FDA4466EB9419C04D7F169FD@Tekki> References: <75D2C179FDA4466EB9419C04D7F169FD@Tekki> Message-ID: On 3/25/10, Rick Sorensen wrote: > >...I have left it "go to seed" and then mowed it. It was about 2-3' tall > > at that point. Grass kept growing. > > Why not take a page from Jim Robinson's book? GET A GOAT That is his thing. Me, I was grandfather'd in and did not need the goat initiation and did not develop a liking for them. Not bad as food though. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 03:22:04 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:22:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So much for EVER believing a picture sometime in the not to distant future Message-ID: I shudder at the thought of what this can do in the hands of Mike Evans and Dick Bregstein. Jack may never look the same again.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0aEp1oDOI (WS) Think of some of the uses this could be put too. Shudder.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Mar 26 03:47:45 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:47:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So much for EVER believing a picture sometime in the not to distant future In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4BABF621.4168.120E666F@localhost> > I shudder at the thought of what this can do in the hands of Mike > Evans and Dick Bregstein. Jack may never look the same again.... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0aEp1oDOI > (WS) Damm That is cool. I have done enough of that cutting stuff out to know this is the bomb. > > Think of some of the uses this could be put too. Shudder.... > Nuclear refining facility... what nuclear refining facility. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From tpcutter at aol.com Fri Mar 26 04:00:36 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:00:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fw: OT: Jobs that are no more In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC9AB0068AE258-1AA0-D808@webmail-m062.sysops.aol.com> I was a pinsetter on Couples League nights when my parents bowled in the early 60's. They could not find a babysitter in the entire region who would stay with me. (I took pride in terrorizing babysitters...) The new AMF automatic pinsetter at the Bowl-A-Rama threw me into the ranks of the superfluous and unessential at the tender age of ten. My response was to turn to illicit substances and fetishism to dull the pain. I still get a little "happy" about midget hermaphrodites in long skirts and waffle-stompers. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 06:13:45 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 02:13:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fw: OT: Jobs that are no more In-Reply-To: <8CC9AB0068AE258-1AA0-D808@webmail-m062.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9AB0068AE258-1AA0-D808@webmail-m062.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 3/26/10, Tom Cutter wrote: > pain. I still get a little "happy" about midget hermaphrodites in long > skirts and waffle-stompers. You owe me a set of eyes... And clean pickle forks. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Mar 26 10:31:17 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 06:31:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So much for EVER believing a picture sometime in the not to distant future In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I shudder at the thought of what this can do in the hands of Mike >Evans and Dick Bregstein. Jack may never look the same again.... > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0aEp1oDOI >(WS) > >Think of some of the uses this could be put too. Shudder.... While this is really cool, I feel the urge to rant a bit. I recently watched a similiar movie done by Matt Kozlowski in which he spent approximately 6 minutes 'tweaking' a picture to make it perfect. The before and after were dramatically different. Had Matt taken a little extra time preparing the shot, most of the screwing around would have been unnecessary. One thing the video dod not mention is that Photoshop CS4 is ~$700. GIMP supposedly has this feature and is free. I can't comment on either, because I do not have them. Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Mar 26 10:56:43 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 06:56:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So much for EVER believing a picture sometime in the not to distant future In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BAC5AAB.18808.139724A9@localhost> Crop... > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0aEp1oDOI > >(WS) > > > >Think of some of the uses this could be put too. Shudder.... > > While this is really cool, I feel the urge to rant a bit. > Crop... > > Had Matt taken a little extra time preparing the shot, most of the > screwing around would have been unnecessary. > This is not always possible. I had two instances where I needed to take stuff out of the background to make the picture work. One was taking a picture of my car and trailer. Ron's truck was parked right behind and made it look like crap. Moving the truck was not possible due to time. I moved some trees over the truck and saved the shot. The other was a picture of Joey and Matt a a Ferarri show. There were a bunch of people in the background that ruined the mood. Again it would have been impossible to move the crowd. I made a building a bit longer and bingo. Matt and Joey are alone with the car. I am amazed how well it works. It is not worth $700 to me, but I am sure it is worth that to many. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From darkside at ix.netcom.com Fri Mar 26 11:09:17 2010 From: darkside at ix.netcom.com (Darkside) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 07:09:17 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Pictures from when there was REAL racing at Daytona _Beach__!!! Message-ID: <25746720.1269601758008.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >From: Brian Curry >>Subject: [MAC-PAC] Pictures from when there was REAL racing at Daytona _Beach__!!! > >http://www.life.com/image/ugc1020972/in-gallery/37202/daytona-motorcycle-madness-1948 >(WS AMAZING) > wow! that just made my day! (week?) btw, when was the last time you think you could find such a desolate looking area of property around daytona beach as in pic number 3. oh, and i love some of the biker gear. peace eric From corey.lyba at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 11:45:32 2010 From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 07:45:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] March Riders' Dinner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm shooting to be there. From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 15:26:54 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 11:26:54 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Go Daddy says no to being an agent for the state Message-ID: of China http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/03/go-daddy-china-stunt/ (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From ephoet at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 15:50:37 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 11:50:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Interesting concept In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Wayne Woodruff wrote: > > http://www.stumbleupon.com/ > (WS) > > A FF plugin that finds website based on things you like. > > > Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com > Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com > _______________________________________________ www.sunbeltsoftware.com/stu/gravemarkers/index.html Where Stumble took me. MC content on at least 2 of the markers. Erik H From mloudis at juno.com Fri Mar 26 15:22:49 2010 From: mloudis at juno.com (M Loudis) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 11:22:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So much for EVER believing a picture sometime in the not to distant future In-Reply-To: <4BAC5AAB.18808.139724A9@localhost> References: <4BAC5AAB.18808.139724A9@localhost> Message-ID: <4BACD149.4060906@juno.com> Content aware fill IS amazing. However, if you use GIMP (free, similar to Photoshop) there's a plug-in called Resynthesizer (also free) that seems to do the same thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h1gZJsjKxs (copy and paste...sorry!) I've got no experience with GIMP but may download it to try out the resynthesizer. If you don't have to have the latest copy of Photoshop, buy a generation earlier more cheaply. When CS4 came out I got a copy of CS3 at a substantial savings, and am now in the loop to get a later generation at the upgrade price. Also Photoshop Elements is very good (I use this too) and has most of what the majority of people would want at a substantially cheaper price. You can get add-ons for Elements (many are free), just as in Photoshop, and come close to many of the things that can be done with Photoshop. Of course, this can burn up a lot of time. Don't ask me how I know... -Matt On 3/26/2010 6:56 AM, Joe Dille wrote: > > I am amazed how well it works. It is not worth $700 to me, but I am > sure it is worth that to many. > > Ride Safe, > > Joe > --------------------------------- > Joe Dille > Telford, PA USA > joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us > What happens on Earth, stays on Earth > http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2771 - Release Date: 03/26/10 03:33:00 > From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Mar 26 16:18:03 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:18:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So much for EVER believing a picture sometime in the not to distant future In-Reply-To: <4BACD149.4060906@juno.com> References: <4BAC5AAB.18808.139724A9@localhost> <4BACD149.4060906@juno.com> Message-ID: <7fbead931003260918m1618ff48v863e10c60adbc685@mail.gmail.com> > > If you don't have to have the latest copy of Photoshop, buy a generation > earlier more cheaply. ?When CS4 came out I got a copy of CS3 at a > substantial savings, and am now in the loop to get a later generation at > the upgrade price. Another trick is to purchase an Educational License for your child :-) Adobe is very generous. DAMHIK -- Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From motoedde2 at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 16:22:46 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:22:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So much for EVER believing a picture sometime in the not to distant future In-Reply-To: <7fbead931003260918m1618ff48v863e10c60adbc685@mail.gmail.com> References: <4BAC5AAB.18808.139724A9@localhost> <4BACD149.4060906@juno.com> <7fbead931003260918m1618ff48v863e10c60adbc685@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Wayne Woodruff wrote: >> >> If you don't have to have the latest copy of Photoshop, buy a generation >> earlier more cheaply. ?When CS4 came out I got a copy of CS3 at a >> substantial savings, and am now in the loop to get a later generation at >> the upgrade price. > > Another trick is to purchase an Educational License for your child :-) > ?Adobe is very generous. ?DAMHIK What proof does Adobe require to claim a child for this Educational license? -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From mrmevans at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 16:44:11 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:44:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So much for EVER believing a picture sometime in the not to distant future In-Reply-To: References: <4BAC5AAB.18808.139724A9@localhost> <4BACD149.4060906@juno.com> <7fbead931003260918m1618ff48v863e10c60adbc685@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003260944g6e1ed393k978844668ea3accc@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:22 PM, edde m asked: > > What proof does Adobe require to claim a child for this Educational license? > Hmmm...is that like when I go to Staples and buy the Home & Student version of Office which I can then install on up to 5 computers? Only proof Staples asks for is "How would like to pay for that?" -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From ephoet at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 17:34:36 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:34:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Pictures from when there was REAL racing at Daytona _Beach__!!! In-Reply-To: <8CC9A59FB5242EB-3330-5751@Webmail-m104.sysops.aol.com> References: <4a4431121003250800l1666db04la4b9a02df1d823c8@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9A59FB5242EB-3330-5751@Webmail-m104.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Tom Cutter wrote: > > < > wrote:> > http://www.life.com/image/ugc1020972/in-gallery/37202/daytona-motorcycle-madness-1948> > (WS AMAZING)Fantastic!!I was there for the beach race in 1957 at age > 12.>> > > Many of you guys who have doen RogerLyle Track Days have met Al Wilcox, > our offficial Motorcycle Excitement Starter and Flagger, who is still > going strong at the age of 91 years young. > > Al was IN the race featured in LIFE magazine, and he raced Daytona on > the beach for 10 years between 1948 and 1959, with one year he missed. > One year he finished second place. His stories alone are worth the > price of admission to a track day. > > His "key" to staying alive to age 91? "I've never tasted nicotine or > alcohol" says Al. > > > -- > Tom Cutter > Yardley, PA > http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com > > ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? > > _______________________________________________ Al was # 49 according to http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?next=yes&article=27871 Alas, none of the 22 Life photos shows # 49 See also https://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=31017 EPH From ephoet at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 17:43:37 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:43:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bad MC accident in Phoenix Message-ID: Anyone read about this today? Very sad........... http://www.kpho.com/news/22956828/detail.html 3 Dead In Ariz. Motorcycle Crash At Least 8 Motorcycles Involved In Crash That Left 6 People Injured, Police Say Police said at least eight motorcycles on a group ride had stopped at a red light on the Carefree Highway when they were hit from behind by the sanitation truck. The truck then caught on fire, officers said. Officials say at least eight motorcycles were involved in the crash. Firefighters said several motorcycles were crushed underneath the truck. There was no sign the truck driver was impaired, officers said. The crash pinned three cyclists and their bikes underneath the burning dump truck. Witnesses at the nearby Walgreens rushed outside with fire extinguishers, but helplessly realized they were no match for the size of the fire. Medical choppers airlifted two of the bikers, the remaining four went to trauma centers via ambulance. Photos @ http://www.kpho.com/slideshow/news/22956962/detail.html ------------------ Sure glad our group ride last weekend was "uneventful". EPH From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Mar 26 17:46:56 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:46:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So much for EVER believing a picture sometime in the not to distant future In-Reply-To: References: <4BAC5AAB.18808.139724A9@localhost> <4BACD149.4060906@juno.com> <7fbead931003260918m1618ff48v863e10c60adbc685@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7fbead931003261046o3dd10169k977d35d0a79eba37@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:22 PM, edde m wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Wayne Woodruff wrote: >>> >>> If you don't have to have the latest copy of Photoshop, buy a generation >>> earlier more cheaply. ?When CS4 came out I got a copy of CS3 at a >>> substantial savings, and am now in the loop to get a later generation at >>> the upgrade price. >> >> Another trick is to purchase an Educational License for your child :-) >> ?Adobe is very generous. ?DAMHIK > > What proof does Adobe require to claim a child for this Educational license? You can email a photocopy of a valid student ID -- Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From oldmainlinehomes at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 17:47:41 2010 From: oldmainlinehomes at gmail.com (oldmainlinehomes at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:47:41 +0000 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bad MC accident in Phoenix Message-ID: <935204805-1269625635-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1804068805-@bda384.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I wonder if texting was involved....... Kenn Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From willweir at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 17:52:34 2010 From: willweir at gmail.com (Will Weir) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:52:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bad MC accident in Phoenix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Erik Hoet wrote: > Anyone read about this today? ?Very sad........... > http://www.kpho.com/news/22956828/detail.html > Sure glad our group ride last weekend was "uneventful". > > EPH > _______________________________________________ This happened within a few hundred feet of my friend's office. They actually called 911 as soon as they saw the fire. He said he could not sleep last night and he was sick to his stomach thinking about it. Will From tpcutter at aol.com Fri Mar 26 17:56:26 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:56:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Pictures from when there was REAL racing at Daytona _Beach__!!! In-Reply-To: References: <4a4431121003250800l1666db04la4b9a02df1d823c8@mail.gmail.com> <8CC9A59FB5242EB-3330-5751@Webmail-m104.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CC9B24CA080402-2870-C50D@Webmail-d112.sysops.aol.com> <> #49 was Al's "National" number. He didn't earn a two-digit National Number until his second pro season. I forget the years when all this happened, but Al can tell you exactly. He is in a couple of the LIFE photos, he has one of them framed on his living room wall in Trenton, NJ. He probably owns more racing trophies than most trophy stores. His living room is a chair, a TV and a bazillion trophies. He's a great guy. After I posted up about Al yesterday. I phoned him just to say hi. He's raring to get the season started. There will be some sort of motorcycles and jazz thing going on up in Frenchtown, NJ this spring, and AL will be the "Grand Marshal" of the event. I just heard about it last night from Roger Lyle, who plans to attend. Of course Al is at all of our Motorcycle Excitement Track days. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From ephoet at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 17:58:00 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:58:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] March Riders' Dinner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Ken Bruce wrote: > ?Its Spring, its beautiful, the snow is gone and nearly so is March! ?So, > ?I'll get right to the point... > > ?RIDERS' DINNER next Wednesday night, March 31st at the Drafting Room in > Exton, PA @ 6:30 > ?p.m. ________________ I should be there. Thanks for orcanizing, Ken the Brix! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brix,_Manche Erik with a "k" From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Fri Mar 26 18:01:23 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bad MC accident in Phoenix In-Reply-To: <2112117219.3567501269626234671.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <384756012.3569391269626483001.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >Anyone read about this today? Very sad........... >http://www.kpho.com/news/22956828/detail.html > >3 Dead In Ariz. Motorcycle Crash >At Least 8 Motorcycles Involved In Crash That Left 6 People Injured, Police Say I have never been one to sit at a light in gear. I usually keep and eye on my mirror unless there are already cars stopped behind me. Looking at these pictures, I think I will change my practices in the future. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 18:32:47 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:32:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now here is news reporting you can TRULY believe the validity of! Message-ID: Truly definitive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U4Ha9HQvMo (NWS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Mar 26 18:41:02 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:41:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Arctic Alchemy adventure References: Message-ID: <700D8B10C3A64ED995AB1C7FAF20FD10@dellfe483b726d> > Look at what a couple of my friends are doing this summer. It's > motorcycles, adventure, history and beer. "Discoveries of the Red Hand" > It, maybe, can't get cooler than that. Go to www.arcticalchemy.com > These folks are based just up in Bethlehem. One is from near Ithaca. > Todd Byrum I remember John Chay. It's been a few years since we last ran into each other. It sounds like a terrific journey and I wish him well. Todd Trumbore From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 18:42:07 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:42:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bad MC accident in Phoenix In-Reply-To: <935204805-1269625635-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1804068805-@bda384.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <935204805-1269625635-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1804068805-@bda384.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: On 3/26/10, oldmainlinehomes at gmail.com wrote: > > I wonder if texting was involved....... This post via another list says he was "fishing for papers" http://jalopnik.com/5502266/ It is NOT pretty at all. Put a few leaking gasoline tanks under a hot engine, and with just running engines next to them and it is NOT going to be good at all. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motoedde2 at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 18:46:14 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:46:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So much for EVER believing a picture sometime in the not to distant future In-Reply-To: <7fbead931003261046o3dd10169k977d35d0a79eba37@mail.gmail.com> References: <4BAC5AAB.18808.139724A9@localhost> <4BACD149.4060906@juno.com> <7fbead931003260918m1618ff48v863e10c60adbc685@mail.gmail.com> <7fbead931003261046o3dd10169k977d35d0a79eba37@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Wayne Woodruff wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:22 PM, edde m wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Wayne Woodruff wrote: >>> Another trick is to purchase an Educational License for your child :-) >>> ?Adobe is very generous. ?DAMHIK >> >> What proof does Adobe require to claim a child for this Educational license? > > You can email a photocopy of a valid student ID Do realize the educational opportunity this presents for your kids in terms of educating them about arbitrage? I wonder if the last name has to match or if Adobe has the right to know if your kid is legimate? -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bergman at panix.com Fri Mar 26 19:13:03 2010 From: bergman at panix.com (bergman at panix.com) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:13:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] Re: So much for EVER believing a picture sometime in the not to distant future In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:46:14 EDT." References: <4BAC5AAB.18808.139724A9@localhost> <4BACD149.4060906@juno.com> <7fbead931003260918m1618ff48v863e10c60adbc685@mail.gmail.com> <7fbead931003261046o3dd10169k977d35d0a79eba37@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11495.1269630783@localhost> In the thread entitled: , it was written: => On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Wayne Woodruff wrote: => > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:22 PM, edde m wrote: => >> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Wayne Woodruff wrote: => => >>> Another trick is to purchase an Educational License for your child :-) => >>> =A0Adobe is very generous. =A0DAMHIK Why purchase anything? I mean, if you're going to violate the license agreement--which, from a legal point of view means that you're stealing the product--why not just go all out and steal it? If you don't have the cojones to take a retail copy from a store, just download a cracked version. Enjoy the added bonus of viruses. http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/qualify.html Mark "I dislike software licenses, but that doesn't give me license to violate them" Bergman From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 19:33:56 2010 From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (hugh mccann) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:33:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] [MAC-PACl] email protection Message-ID: Anyone ever try this? http://scr.im/ I know "the spoon" would love it, or uses it already. Hugh 2007 650GS "Thumper" Collegeville, pa From rsorens at comcast.net Sat Mar 27 02:12:46 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:12:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fw: OT: Jobs that are no more In-Reply-To: <8CC9AB0068AE258-1AA0-D808@webmail-m062.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4D9B11FDA81E452C899440592D3FDFD6@Tekki> >...I still get a little "happy" about midget hermaphrodites in long skirts and waffle-stompers. Why does this NOT surprise me???? :-{) Rick From jack.riepe at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 03:46:38 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:46:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now here is news reporting you can TRULY believe the validity of! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: This is so true. This Onion New video is the basic format for every snow storm story I saw this year. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From tpcutter at aol.com Sat Mar 27 05:01:47 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:01:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Extra guests for dinner? Message-ID: <8CC9B81BD18817E-223C-9A74@webmail-m038.sysops.aol.com> http://www.wimp.com/expandingtable/ This ought to take care of the overflow. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 05:25:19 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:25:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:The gullible flack Message-ID: The "next" item on the Wimp.com site was interesting. http://www.wimp.com/gulliblecities/ (WS) It is interesting that Mac-Pac has an under-employed PR flack... Plus a fleetload of people that could provided credible statements. Oh, and yes it is easy. YEARS ago I was part of an effort that got a paper magazine to speak of a new tire coming out. It was going to wear like concrete. The magic element was silicon. Of course it was concrete. We had no website. Just list buzz to work with. I wonder if carrying out such in the US would get the under employed flack fully employed? What would BMW MOA say? (I bet it WOULD make for an interesting article in MOA N.) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 05:25:19 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:25:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:The gullible flack Message-ID: The "next" item on the Wimp.com site was interesting. http://www.wimp.com/gulliblecities/ (WS) It is interesting that Mac-Pac has an under-employed PR flack... Plus a fleetload of people that could provided credible statements. Oh, and yes it is easy. YEARS ago I was part of an effort that got a paper magazine to speak of a new tire coming out. It was going to wear like concrete. The magic element was silicon. Of course it was concrete. We had no website. Just list buzz to work with. I wonder if carrying out such in the US would get the under employed flack fully employed? What would BMW MOA say? (I bet it WOULD make for an interesting article in MOA N.) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Mar 27 11:26:05 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 07:26:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Extra guests for dinner? In-Reply-To: <8CC9B81BD18817E-223C-9A74@webmail-m038.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BADB30D.11571.18D863FC@localhost> > http://www.wimp.com/expandingtable/ > > This ought to take care of the overflow. > That is very slick. Now if you could only do that with the chairs... Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Mar 27 12:44:26 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 08:44:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Brian warned us... Message-ID: <4BADC56A.1905.19201C36@localhost> The new smart electric meters that the utilities are looking to roll out are vulnerable to hacking: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20100326/D9EMFLG80.html Some kid in China pushes a button and your lights go out. Some dude in Africa presses a button and your electric bill goes up by $0.02/day. How cool is that? Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From jack.riepe at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 12:58:57 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 08:58:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Brian warned us... In-Reply-To: <4BADC56A.1905.19201C36@localhost> References: <4BADC56A.1905.19201C36@localhost> Message-ID: The cost for making each meter secure, or for isolating the system from the internet, is probably $80,000,000, which the electric utilities have deemed is "too expensive" or "unnecessary" at this point. So they'll save the $80 million (purely arbitrary figure), gambling they can pocket this amount against the "remote" chance that some kid in China, Russia, Bosnia, or the Sudan will ever figure out how to turn off the juice on the east coast, costing them trillions of dollars. Considering the chips for each meter is probably a cottage industry in Fong Yu, China, I'm surprised the meters don't come with the "Fortune Cookie Virus," programed to all switch off on July 4th, 2014. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 13:11:04 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 09:11:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Extra guests for dinner? In-Reply-To: <8CC9B81BD18817E-223C-9A74@webmail-m038.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9B81BD18817E-223C-9A74@webmail-m038.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Dear Sir: I have been using tables like this on my yachts for years. They are currently designing toilets that utilize this concept for congress. The line about buying the keyboard from ebay is hysterical. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 13:44:20 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 09:44:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:The gullible flack In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Brian: Understanding the complex media relationship must be coupled with a deep respect for the truth in any public relations executive's long-term plans for building relationships with reporters. This is a critical part of the information equation that keeps the American public as well informed and as sharp as they are today. Public relations executives who attempt to take advantage of these relationships will find themselves in a downward spiral, ending up behind a podium at the White House, as the next to last stop in the gutter. While these attempts to expose the media as slipshod may be entertaining to some, I can assure you they are the rare occasion. The release concocted by the players in this video was of a high "human interest" nature to the residents of that particular Australian city, and in adjacent cities, who would find some competitive edge in that piece. I can assure you that if someone created the Lawerence Livermoat Laboratory, and had them issue a statement that Americans were no getting thinner, it would fly like a lead zeppelin. I have every confidence in the system's ability to find the truth. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From mrmevans at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 14:09:39 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:09:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Exploding Water Message-ID: <8296f6de1003270709y3995c56et574df1eba7f459af@mail.gmail.com> Interesting show from PBS regarding gas drilling. http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/613/ I'm not trying to push anyone's agenda here, but if you skip ahead to 6:23 that's when the evidence of methane, propane and ethane in this towns drinking water becomes more apparent. The line I like is that the "11-year old boys in the town knew about this before everyone else." -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From bmwdick at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 12:52:26 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 08:52:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Brian warned us... In-Reply-To: <4BADC56A.1905.19201C36@localhost> References: <4BADC56A.1905.19201C36@localhost> Message-ID: >From the looks last month's bill that African dude has been tappin' away at the button. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Joe Dille wrote: > The new smart electric meters that the utilities are looking to roll > out are vulnerable to hacking: > > http://apnews.excite.com/article/20100326/D9EMFLG80.html > > Some kid in China pushes a button and your lights go out. ?Some dude > in Africa presses a button and your electric bill goes up by > $0.02/day. ?How cool is that? > > Ride Safe, > > Joe > --------------------------------- > Joe Dille > Telford, PA USA > joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us > What happens on Earth, stays on Earth > http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick From jack.riepe at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 14:43:10 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:43:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Exploding Water In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003270709y3995c56et574df1eba7f459af@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003270709y3995c56et574df1eba7f459af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: What is amazing is that this is taking place on the Upper Delaware, about 25 miles away from where the bullshit National Park Service will arrest you from spitting on the ground. And the sad part is, that most of the people who are land rich up there are cash poor, and will take the money. Most anybody would. The thought of pumping a chemical cocktail into the ground water ? so close to river and in an area where people still drink from natural springs ? is inconceivable to me. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 14:51:36 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:51:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Brian warned us... In-Reply-To: <4BADC56A.1905.19201C36@localhost> References: <4BADC56A.1905.19201C36@localhost> Message-ID: On 3/27/10, Joe Dille wrote: > The new smart electric meters that the utilities are looking to roll > out are vulnerable to hacking: > > http://apnews.excite.com/article/20100326/D9EMFLG80.html ===== These utilities, which he would not name, have already done small deployments of smart meters and plan to roll the technology out to hundreds of thousands of power customers, Wright told The Associated Press. [Snip] These utilities, which he would not name, have already done small deployments of smart meters and plan to roll the technology out to hundreds of thousands of power customers, Wright told The Associated Press. ===== Unstated is that rollout is being pushed by those that are SURE we have to CONSERVE and this is one sure way to conserve, by turning off the power when "necessary". ===== "We weren't sure it was possible," Paller said. "He actually verified it's possible. ... If the Department of Energy is going to make sure the meters are safe, then Josh's work is really important." ===== I love that word "safe". No hazard. Right.... ===== Industry representatives say utilities are doing rigorous security testing that will make new power grids more secure than the patchwork system we have now, which is already under hacking attacks from adversaries believed to be working overseas. ===== Said by someone that does not understand security well at all. Instead of a bunch of DIFFERENT and INCOMPATIBLE "standards" we will have ONE standard, that once you are into it you can do anything. "I can see my perspective and there is no other" Yeah right. Lot of that going around. ===== Wright said his firm found "egregious" errors, such as flaws in the meters and the technologies that utilities use to manage data from meters. "Even though these protocols were designed recently, they exhibit security failures we've known about for the past 10 years," Wright said. He said InGuardians found vulnerabilities in products from all five of the meter makers the firm studied. He would not disclose those manufacturers. ===== It was built to the specifications. The specifications were written by the clueless doing just what their boss told them to do, and they are not encouraged and even likely discourged from raising concerns. Adding "that" when there is no clear threat raises costs so stop talking about that. Yeah, concealing their names is high security since there are darn few manufacturers, in which case it says that large numbers are vulnerable Me, as long as there is power there I CAN get power back to the house if need be. However similar technologies are being rolled out in the entire system. The "managers" are clueless by and large about what they are being told to roll out. Expect more of this. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 15:11:25 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 11:11:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Exploding Water In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003270709y3995c56et574df1eba7f459af@mail.gmail.com> References: <8296f6de1003270709y3995c56et574df1eba7f459af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/27/10, Michael Evans wrote: > Interesting show from PBS regarding gas drilling. > > http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/613/ > > I'm not trying to push anyone's agenda here, but if you skip ahead to > 6:23 that's when the evidence of methane, propane and ethane in this > towns drinking water becomes more apparent. I do wonder if we would have had steam engines if there were similar means to EXPOSE the hazards of them. They were HORRIBLE things back when they were being developed and first applied. Explosions where the engines landed hundreds of feet away. Then there were the hazards of the trestles, and the "poorly constructed" cars towed behind them. If the hazard of pushing "something" downhole is this bad, for what is relatively small volumes, just how good do you think the idea of pushing LARGE volumes down a hole for 40 years to "Sequester" the CO2. Oh, and CO2 does not cause projectile hurling, or illness, it causes breathing difficulties as in it will flat KILL YOU NOW. And it is heavier than air so that it accumulates in pockets and low points. The statement that "renewables are available now that will replace all the need for natural gas or petroleum is totally BOGUS. All the renewables "need development" as they have for a long time. They don't make good plastic and other stuff that comes from the petroleum stream either. It is not just transportation fuels. It IS about tradeoffs. And it is about improving the process when you find an issue. A pox on all of them wrapping themselves in "goodness" and using the "agenda of the day" for their purpose. Try living w/o the products of petroleum and natural gas. I am sure you will look and feel good in animal pelts. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 15:51:35 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 11:51:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Exercise for people over 50 Message-ID: EXERCISE FOR PEOPLE OVER 50 Begin by standing on a comfortable surface, where you have plenty of room at each side. With a 5-lb potato bag in each hand, extend your arms straight out from your sides and hold them there as long as you can. Try to reach a full minute, and then relax. Each day you'll find that you can hold this position for just a bit longer. After a couple of weeks, move up to 10-lb potato bags. Then try 50-lb potato bags and then eventually try to get to where you can lift a 100-lb potato bag in each hand and hold your arms straight for more than a full minute. (I'm at this level.) After you feel confident at that level, put a potato in each bag. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 16:05:29 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:05:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: FIOS is where it is but won't be growing Message-ID: it appears: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/27/verizon-shelves-plans-for-future-fios-rollouts-relocations-to-m/ (WS) So, Xfinity is safe now where FIOS is not. Unless LTE scales decent. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From mjcantwe at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 17:55:36 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:55:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Exploding Water In-Reply-To: References: <8296f6de1003270709y3995c56et574df1eba7f459af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The one thing that has been impressed on me from the debate about fracing is that it is a short term energy solution with long term ecologic impact. This process itself is wrought with red signals indicating that it isn't a good practice. Remember the argument isn't about the petroleum stream. The argument is about the unregulated process to extract trapped gas from seemingly solid rock. Without oversight and supervision it is bound to succumb to corporate bravado and corruption. If it's not in your back yard, then I'm sure you won't care about what happens to your neighbors, eh Brian? From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 18:06:21 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:06:21 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Exploding Water In-Reply-To: References: <8296f6de1003270709y3995c56et574df1eba7f459af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/27/10, Michael Cantwell wrote: > The one thing that has been impressed on me from the debate about > fracing is that it is a short term energy solution Everything is short term. with long term > ecologic impact. This process itself is wrought with red signals > indicating that it isn't a good practice. Remember the argument isn't > about the petroleum stream. It is. It is about energy and materials for a "comfortable" and safe life. The argument is about the unregulated > process to extract trapped gas from seemingly solid rock. "unregulated"??? There are regulations. I think it was here that someone brought up the issue of disposing of the fracking fluid in the local sewage disposal plants. That is per the regulations. There were some problems with it as I remember in that some stuff "passed through" them. Dilution being the solution at that point. Which also has me wondering about the disposal claims in the video. It is either one or the other but it can't be both. Without > oversight and supervision it is bound to succumb to corporate bravado > and corruption. If it's not in your back yard, then I'm sure you won't > care about what happens to your neighbors, eh Brian? Actually here in Chester County Fracking is done with some regularity. We have water supplies from "tight rock" and if you want water you frack the well to get decent supply rates. My well was done by a dowser, and the neighbor also has high water rates per the driller. Down the road, they ran out last drought. It varies. Problems related to mineral rights and sale of them have a Looonnnggg history in PA. GTFS "long wall mining subsidence" Very similar claim issues. I kinda wonder what the law says about it. Damn tradeoffs, I want utopia. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wayne at 2zars.com Sat Mar 27 18:45:24 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:45:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: what are you doing at 8:30 this evening? Message-ID: Participating in Earth Hour? http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/27/earth-hour-starts-at-8-30pm-tonight-asks-for-sixty-minutes-of-n/ (WS) Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Mar 27 18:58:47 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:58:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] And this is why we need "oversight and supervision" Message-ID: cause w/o it "corporate bravado and corruption" will occur.... http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/26/science/earth/26star.html (WS) "WASHINGTON ? Does a ?gasoline-powered alarm clock? qualify for the EnergyStar label, the government stamp of approval for an energy-saving product? Like more than a dozen other bogus products submitted for approval since last June by Congressional auditors posing as companies, it easily secured the label,.." I am sure that with people such as those running the Energystar program that everything will be just peachy neat. Yup, sure of it. Gimmee annuder swig of that Kool-Aid. Hey it tastes funny.... I do bet that the Rubber Chicken Racing Garage can tune that alarm clock up so that the engine firing up in the morning WILL get you up and going!!! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From rcavalie at verizon.net Sat Mar 27 21:20:10 2010 From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:20:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Repair Manual Message-ID: <000001cacdf3$6510fe80$2f32fb80$@net> BMW has a lot to learn about how to be a motorcycle company. Believe it or not, BMW has stopped selling K1300GT repair manuals (DVD)! There are none in any of the BMW U.S. warehouses. No dealers have any stock left. BMW Germany doesn't even list an availability date. Anybody in the MacPac have one? Please ping me off-list. Love the bike, starting to hate the company. Rick Cavaliere 2009 K1300GT 1985 K100RT From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Sat Mar 27 21:46:13 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:46:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] My Plane Message-ID: <000601cacdf6$ec4b09b0$4001a8c0@FastHP> I finally have sold the airplane. It was quite a process getting the plane up to snuff and although I did get my asking price. It cost me half of the price to get it to pass inspection but I now do not have to worry about it and the $500 month it cost to keep it hangered. The buyer is in the Air Force. He flies F-15's in Afghanistan. He rotates. 4 months over there 16 back here. He will use the plane to fly to see his significant other who is in medical school. I think he will find it a bit slower than the F-15 he flies. Marge From wayne at 2zars.com Sat Mar 27 21:46:41 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:46:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] And this is why we need "oversight and supervision" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >cause w/o it "corporate bravado and corruption" will occur.... > >http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/26/science/earth/26star.html >(WS) > >"WASHINGTON ? Does a ?gasoline-powered alarm clock? qualify for the >EnergyStar label, the government stamp of approval for an >energy-saving product? There was a segment on Good Mornng America regarding "Energy Star" appliances. It seems that some of LG's refrigerators that were Energy Star certified, are, in fact, not. http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/manuf_res/PressRelease_DOE_LG_SettlementAgreement.pdf Of course, you do know that Energy Star is a self-certifying program, don't you? Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From chrisjac at ptd.net Sat Mar 27 21:54:20 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:54:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Repair Manual In-Reply-To: <000001cacdf3$6510fe80$2f32fb80$@net> References: <000001cacdf3$6510fe80$2f32fb80$@net> Message-ID: <4BAE7E8C.6030605@ptd.net> Richard A. Cavaliere wrote: > BMW has a lot to learn about how to be a motorcycle company. Believe it or > not, BMW has stopped selling K1300GT repair manuals (DVD)! There are none in > any of the BMW U.S. warehouses. No dealers have any stock left. BMW Germany > doesn't even list an availability date. Anybody in the MacPac have one? > Please ping me off-list. > > Love the bike, starting to hate the company. > > Well that sucks big time. I am certain that if you peruse the internet, you can find a knockoff copy of the repair manual...either on DVD or in print somewhere. Best of luck. Chris Jaccarino From progress49 at comcast.net Sat Mar 27 22:55:27 2010 From: progress49 at comcast.net (Panagiotis) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:55:27 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fluke multi-meter for sale. Message-ID: Hello all, Fluke multi-meter model 12B for sale, unopened. $60 Thanks, Peter X From mjcantwe at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 00:56:29 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:56:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] FWD: Arrived in Iraq Message-ID: This message was sent to me by Carl Boler (new list member). Wish him well as he will miss the riding season. Michael. ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Carl Boler To: Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 1:47:45 AM Subject: Arrived in Iraq This has turned out to be the journey just getting here. Once I departed the states, I had a five hour layover in Amsterdam. If you're never been there it's worth the trip. I'll return sometime on holiday to further explore the area. I departed the airport and took a guided tour of the city and part of the countryside. I saw the old windmills that holland is fameous for, a wooden shoe maker (tourist shop), and a lot of man made canels, the red light district and the down town area. Yes, I want to return someday future explore. I arrived in Kuwait then took a flight in to Baghdad where I sat around overnight looking for a flight north. I finally landed a helo ride to my next FOB. I visited a friend at the FOB before waiting another night for my next flight north to my final destination. On this 30 minute flight became labored for me as the pilot was doing a combat landing while on descent. Just before I was going to toss everything we landed. I was not feeling well. I was married with the supporting unit and started to get my bearings and getting aquainted with the people I will be supporting and other reps I'll be interfacing with. It's funny how if you're in the industry long enough you'll start seeing people you've run in to on previous deployments. I ran in to Mike, the Rolls Royce Representative, whom I haven't seen since he came in behind me during the Bosnian days in 2000. And there's a lot of the military guys I used to support when they were at Fort Drum. It's like old times. Nice to walk in to a familiar environment. Day 1 I was rudely awaken by the sounds of falling mortar rounds and rather close. I didn't even open an eye as I felt like I have never left from2004. I guess one never loses that combat edge once you've been in it. That round hit a living container. The occupant of that container was exercising at that time so he was o.k. however his container mate wasn't so lucky. He sustained injuries. Don't know the status of him. That evening was just as exciting with several mortar rounds following around 10 pm. I've been told that this camp has been quiet since November and I show up and get this nice greetings. Oh well! There's something I"ve seen here in the night skys over Iraq. It looks like someone cut slits in the sky and slightly pulled it back to explose light. It looks weird and other people have seen this also and reported in on youtube. Kinda hard to explain but not as pretty as the northern lights. There's oil wells all around our camp. The night sky is also lit by the torch flaring from the natural gas that is being burned off. Yes, this is something to see. When I flew through in 2004 on approach I noticed something black on the ground and rather long. Upon closer inspection it was actually a river of oil about 2 meters wide. I couldn't believe this if I had not seen it with my eyes. Well, this is going to promise to be a warm summer here as it's getting warmer as I write this. It really sucks that I"ll miss my motorcycle riding season but such as life I suppose. Take care everyone. Carl, somewhere in Iraq From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Sun Mar 28 01:15:37 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 01:15:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Bull Flugtag anyone? Message-ID: <2028233324.3973361269738937174.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> No I am not talking about watching. For those who have never seen the ads it is for homemade flying machines that go off of a 30 foot platform. Its stupid, which is right up our alley! Its in Philly on Sept. 4. We have enough aeronautic guys in the Pac, and probably a couple of guys crazy enough to pilot the thing. Deadline for entry is May 18. Here is the URL: http://redbullflugtagusa.com/Philadelphia2010 John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From gary5410 at aol.com Sun Mar 28 02:08:22 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:08:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen progress Message-ID: <8CC9C32AD79DD78-138C-AC13@Webmail-m110.sysops.aol.com> My cabinets have arrived......we're a long way from needing them! My wife and I spent the day screwing..........the subfloor down. Damn that was a lot of screws! Next the is the Advantech underlayment.........more screwing.........getting tired of screwing! latest pics........ http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#820989365_LhT3V Gary Christman R 1200 GS Adventure From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Mar 28 03:02:01 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:02:01 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] My Plane In-Reply-To: <000601cacdf6$ec4b09b0$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: <4BAE8E69.24923.1C313FCB@localhost> > I finally have sold the airplane. Congratulations! Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Mar 28 03:18:08 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:18:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] And this is why we need "oversight and supervision" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BAE9230.15313.1C400119@localhost> > > >cause w/o it "corporate bravado and corruption" will occur.... > > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/26/science/earth/26star.html > >(WS) > > > >"WASHINGTON ? Does a ?gasoline-powered alarm clock? qualify for the > >EnergyStar label, the government stamp of approval for an > >energy-saving product? > > There was a segment on Good Mornng America regarding "Energy Star" > appliances. It seems that some of LG's refrigerators that were Energy > Star certified, are, in fact, not. > > http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/manuf_res/PressRelease_DOE_LG_Se > ttlementAgreement.pdf > > Of course, you do know that Energy Star is a self-certifying program, > don't you? > > There is problems with stuff even when you have someone else certify, then source your own stickers... http://www.sfifoundation.com/DecertificationNotice03-26-10.pdf The latest poop storm in the racing world. Team Dille has no Impact Equipment. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From mrmevans at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 03:41:43 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:41:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Bull Flugtag anyone? In-Reply-To: <2028233324.3973361269738937174.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <2028233324.3973361269738937174.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003272041j39bd4438p47dd63143089ac2b@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:15 PM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > No I am not talking about watching. > > For those who have never seen the ads it is for homemade flying machines that go off of a 30 foot platform. Its stupid, which is right up our alley! > > Its in Philly on Sept. 4. We have enough aeronautic guys in the Pac, and probably a couple of guys crazy enough to pilot the thing. Deadline for entry is May 18. Here is the URL: > > http://redbullflugtagusa.com/Philadelphia2010 > Lotsa video online of past events: One example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dqG0hA3dPI I can see one fo two things materializing out of a MAC-PAC entry - either a flying crush washer or a giant bundt cake. I know, I know, the goat idea crossed my mind too, but Jim as had experience with backing them up to the edge of high drops...and nobody really wants to see that. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Mar 28 11:37:19 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 07:37:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: I am so cool... well maybe not Message-ID: <4BAF072F.24321.1E08F3E4@localhost> Patti and I decide we are going to give Joey a little camera for his birthday, so we head on down to Wal-Mart. We find a camera that we are interested in, but we can't tell from the display if is has the movie feature. I hunt down a dude, who happened to be an assistant manager. I tell him I wanted to know if this camera takes movies. He heads over to the display case, unlocks it and pulls out the unit. Then he pulls out his smart phone and takes a picture of the bar code. (While he is waiting for the web magic to happen, I look at the back of the box and indeed see that it does take movies.) Sure enough the phone pulls up the specifications and he shows us that it can take movies. Cool. I ask him if that was a Wal-Mart tool, or his own. He says Wal-Mart does not buy cool stuff like that. Then Patti goes, "That was neat, can it tell us where to get that cheaper?" He goes "let me check." Another snap shot and he has a listing of the local stores with the same item. Wouldentcha know Sears down the street has it for $10 less. Patti goes "I want that price." The guy says sure. That was easy. I guess there is a reason Wal-Mart does not give you those... Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From mrmevans at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 11:49:13 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 07:49:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: I am so cool... well maybe not In-Reply-To: <4BAF072F.24321.1E08F3E4@localhost> References: <4BAF072F.24321.1E08F3E4@localhost> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003280449q6220541cg73ca682268c31fb7@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Joe Dille wrote: > > ?Then he pulls out his smart phone and takes a picture of the bar > code. ?(While he is waiting for the web magic to happen, I look at > the back of the box and indeed see that it does take movies.) > That same app can take a photo of a bar code on a book, say "Politically Correct Cigar Smoking for Social Terrorists", by our own Jack Riepe, and it will take you too an Amazon.com page where you can order the book (although for this particualr book I suggest talking directly to Jack and getting the autographed version for your mother -in-law). -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Mar 28 11:50:30 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 07:50:30 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen progress In-Reply-To: <8CC9C32AD79DD78-138C-AC13@Webmail-m110.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BAF0A46.16108.1E150429@localhost> > My cabinets have arrived......we're a long way from needing them! My > wife and I spent the day screwing..........the subfloor down. Damn > that was a lot of screws! Next the is the Advantech > underlayment.........more screwing.........getting tired of screwing! > > latest pics........ > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#82098936 > 5_LhT3V > Lots of work. I am impressed. It is going to look great when it is all done. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Sun Mar 28 12:40:02 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 08:40:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] FWD: Arrived in Iraq References: Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Cantwell To: mac-Pac Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:56 PM Subject: [MAC-PAC] FWD: Arrived in Iraq This message was sent to me by Carl Boler (new list member). Wish him well as he will miss the riding season. Michael. ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Carl Boler To: Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 1:47:45 AM Subject: Arrived in Iraq This has turned out to be the journey just getting here. Once I departed the states, I had a five hour layover in Amsterdam. If you're never been there it's worth the trip. I'll return sometime on holiday to further explore the area. I departed the airport and took a guided tour of the city and part of the countryside. I saw the old windmills that holland is fameous for, a wooden shoe maker (tourist shop), and a lot of man made canels, the red light district and the down town area. Yes, I want to return someday future explore. I arrived in Kuwait then took a flight in to Baghdad where I sat around overnight looking for a flight north. I finally landed a helo ride to my next FOB. I visited a friend at the FOB before waiting another night for my next flight north to my final destination. On this 30 minute flight became labored for me as the pilot was doing a combat landing while on descent. Just before I was going to toss everything we landed. I was not feeling well. I was married with the supporting unit and started to get my bearings and getting aquainted with the people I will be supporting and other reps I'll be interfacing with. It's funny how if you're in the industry long enough you'll start seeing people you've run in to on previous deployments. I ran in to Mike, the Rolls Royce Representative, whom I haven't seen since he came in behind me during the Bosnian days in 2000. And there's a lot of the military guys I used to support when they were at Fort Drum. It's like old times. Nice to walk in to a familiar environment. Day 1 I was rudely awaken by the sounds of falling mortar rounds and rather close. I didn't even open an eye as I felt like I have never left from2004. I guess one never loses that combat edge once you've been in it. That round hit a living container. The occupant of that container was exercising at that time so he was o.k. however his container mate wasn't so lucky. He sustained injuries. Don't know the status of him. That evening was just as exciting with several mortar rounds following around 10 pm. I've been told that this camp has been quiet since November and I show up and get this nice greetings. Oh well! There's something I"ve seen here in the night skys over Iraq. It looks like someone cut slits in the sky and slightly pulled it back to explose light. It looks weird and other people have seen this also and reported in on youtube. Kinda hard to explain but not as pretty as the northern lights. There's oil wells all around our camp. The night sky is also lit by the torch flaring from the natural gas that is being burned off. Yes, this is something to see. When I flew through in 2004 on approach I noticed something black on the ground and rather long. Upon closer inspection it was actually a river of oil about 2 meters wide. I couldn't believe this if I had not seen it with my eyes. Well, this is going to promise to be a warm summer here as it's getting warmer as I write this. It really sucks that I"ll miss my motorcycle riding season but such as life I suppose. Take care everyone. Carl, somewhere in Iraq _______________________________________________ Tell Carl if he ever gets to Camp Slayer on the southeastern side of Baghdad to look up my brother Ken Robinson. He just flew back after spending 2 weeks R&R in Vail CO. He is working as an independent contractor in General Maintenance. Jim Robinson West Chester PA From rcavalie at verizon.net Sun Mar 28 14:19:36 2010 From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:19:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen progress In-Reply-To: <8CC9C32AD79DD78-138C-AC13@Webmail-m110.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9C32AD79DD78-138C-AC13@Webmail-m110.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000f01cace81$b26b4d00$1741e700$@net> -----Original Message----- From: mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com [mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com] On Behalf Of Gary Christman Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:08 PM To: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen progress My cabinets have arrived......we're a long way from needing them! My wife and I spent the day screwing..........the subfloor down. Damn that was a lot of screws! Next the is the Advantech underlayment.........more screwing.........getting tired of screwing! Snip Gary, What did you decide upon regarding beefing up the subfloor? In the pix, it looks like plywood (1/2 "?) and glue? Rick Cavaliere From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Mar 28 14:35:38 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:35:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] (Fwd) Re: OT: FIOS is where it is but won't be growi Message-ID: <4BAF30FA.24368.1EAC32CE@localhost> ------- Forwarded message follows ------- it appears: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/27/verizon-shelves-plans-for-future- fi os-rollouts-relocations-to-m/ (WS) So, Xfinity is safe now where FIOS is not. Unless LTE scales decent. ------- Forwarded message follows ------- -----Original Message----- From: Joe Dille Sent: Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:06 pm Subject: (Fwd) [MAC-PAC] OT: FIOS is where it is but won't be growing Cathy, What's up with this. FiOS is stopping? Love, Joe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe, This story is an example of what keeps me working 24x7 -- damage control. We're not stopping, just concentrating in the areas that we're already committed before moving on. Reporters love to run with this kind of stuff ... Love, Cathy --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Mar 28 14:40:19 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:40:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] (Fwd) Re: OT: FIOS is where it is but won't be growi In-Reply-To: <4BAF30FA.24368.1EAC32CE@localhost> Message-ID: <4BAF3213.3476.1EB07D2E@localhost> > > Cathy, > > What's up with this. FiOS is stopping? > > Love, > > Joe > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Joe, This story is an example of what keeps me working 24x7 -- damage > control. We're not stopping, just concentrating in the areas that > we're already committed before moving on. Reporters love to run with > this kind of stuff ... Love, Cathy > Oops. I forgot to mention that my sister is in Verizon's head office in media relations. Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 16:25:03 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:25:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] (Fwd) Re: OT: FIOS is where it is but won't be growi In-Reply-To: <4BAF3213.3476.1EB07D2E@localhost> References: <4BAF30FA.24368.1EAC32CE@localhost> <4BAF3213.3476.1EB07D2E@localhost> Message-ID: On 3/28/10, Joe Dille wrote: > > > > Cathy, > > > > What's up with this. FiOS is stopping? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Joe, This story is an example of what keeps me working 24x7 -- damage > > control. We're not stopping, just concentrating in the areas that > > we're already committed before moving on. Reporters love to run with > > this kind of stuff ... Love, Cathy > > > Oops. I forgot to mention that my sister is in Verizon's head office > in media relations. Annuder side of the PR business. All that said, it costs a BUNCH of money to roll out FIOS. It is more cost effective in "economically challenging" time to "fill in" where you have facilities. Better to do that and have something "working" and being "not upside down so much" than driving yourself to be _more_ upside down. "Spin doctoring' paining it better. Not at the lipstick on a pig level though. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jhw4458 at verizon.net Sun Mar 28 17:02:57 2010 From: jhw4458 at verizon.net (Clyde Jacobs) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 13:02:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: rubber duckie race References: <42791320-BCD8-4AAD-9402-8A363510B9C9@verizon.net> Message-ID: "Rubber Duckie you're the one, you make race day so much fun!" Come and watch all the rubber duckies as they paddle and waddle as fast as they can, racing to the finish line. This fundraiser take place in Avondale, PA April 17th, 11:00 am. And, don't forget to buy your tickets for your chance to win fabulous prizes, and support Area 18 Republican Party and the Avon Grove Library. (Need not be present to win.) It will be a lot of fun, and a lot of feathered fans are following along on Face Book. You can become a fan of "Rubber Duckie Race" too. Let me know if you have questions and/or need tickets. 5.00 each, 3/10.00 Clyde Jacobs '04 - K1200GT "Red Molly" From chrisjac at ptd.net Sun Mar 28 18:28:33 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:28:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Bull Flugtag anyone? In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003272041j39bd4438p47dd63143089ac2b@mail.gmail.com> References: <2028233324.3973361269738937174.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8296f6de1003272041j39bd4438p47dd63143089ac2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BAF9FD1.9080205@ptd.net> Michael Evans wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:15 PM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John > Clauss) wrote: > >> No I am not talking about watching. >> >> For those who have never seen the ads it is for homemade flying machines that go off of a 30 foot platform. Its stupid, which is right up our alley! >> >> Its in Philly on Sept. 4. We have enough aeronautic guys in the Pac, and probably a couple of guys crazy enough to pilot the thing. Deadline for entry is May 18. Here is the URL: >> >> http://redbullflugtagusa.com/Philadelphia2010 >> >> > > Lotsa video online of past events: > > One example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dqG0hA3dPI > > I can see one fo two things materializing out of a MAC-PAC entry - > either a flying crush washer or a giant bundt cake. > > I know, I know, the goat idea crossed my mind too, but Jim as had > experience with backing them up to the edge of high drops...and nobody > really wants to see that. > > Well, I would volunteer as a pilot for whatever you guys would build, except I am not riding any goat. Chris Jaccarino From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Sun Mar 28 19:10:10 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Bull Flugtag anyone? In-Reply-To: <4BAF9FD1.9080205@ptd.net> Message-ID: <305684464.4117041269803410581.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >Well, I would volunteer as a pilot for whatever you guys would build, >except I am not riding any goat. See, I told you we would have someone crazy enough to pilot it. Now we just need a plane! John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From rys at R2Controls.com Sun Mar 28 19:56:15 2010 From: rys at R2Controls.com (Rick Rys) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:56:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Exploding Water In-Reply-To: References: <8296f6de1003270709y3995c56et574df1eba7f459af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002401caceb0$b9a9f650$2cfde2f0$@com> New Hydraulic Fracturing methods are touted as the amazing engineering breakthrough that will significantly improve gas production by boosting domestic production of declining wells. That is a very big deal worth a lot of $. Businesses have an interest to make a profit and history shows they often ignore and downplay the negative. It is important that individuals and communities speak up for protection of community property and the environment. Basically the Josh Fox Gasland Video shows democracy in action. It is not easy to walk away from the profits of domestic natural gas, but if the business risks the contamination of a whole communities water supply, there needs to be some way of assessing the risks before it is too late. Apparently injecting waste into the ground for disposal is regulated by federal Safe Drinking Water Act, but if the purpose is to improve gas production, injecting proprietary chemicals into the well is exempted from the Act. Sounds like a loophole that allows companies to avoid liability for their actions and could potentially allow dumping anything hanging around into a gas well that might be construed as helping gas production. Rick Rys 2006 GSA1200 - rode 400 miles yesterday on a cold trip to Vermont and back. Could have used my Gerbing heated gloves but they are still out for repair. 26F departure, 41F high, 28F return. From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 20:08:56 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:08:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Exploding Water In-Reply-To: <002401caceb0$b9a9f650$2cfde2f0$@com> References: <8296f6de1003270709y3995c56et574df1eba7f459af@mail.gmail.com> <002401caceb0$b9a9f650$2cfde2f0$@com> Message-ID: On 3/28/10, Rick Rys wrote: > New Hydraulic Fracturing methods are touted as the amazing engineering > breakthrough that will significantly improve gas production by boosting > domestic production of declining wells. That is a very big deal worth a lot > of $. You have not read up on what is going on. It is not declining wells. They now do horizontal drilling into rock that is "very solid" While a long horizontal drill will open up a LOT more surface area than a vertical well that just punches through the strata, it is still not "that large". Production alls off rapidly. They "fracture" the rock around the hole to "really" increase the area. It is cracked and then they add "stuff" that keeps the cracks open and the expanded surface available. Horizontal drilling is revolutionizing petroleum product production. There is a big oil play opening up in the Dakota's due to horizontal drilling. With out it there is no production for long. With it there is. I don't know if they frac up there too. > Businesses have an interest to make a profit and history shows they often > ignore and downplay the negative. It is important that individuals and > communities speak up for protection of community property and the > environment. Basically the Josh Fox Gasland Video shows democracy in > action. It is not easy to walk away from the profits of domestic natural > gas, but if the business risks the contamination of a whole communities > water supply, there needs to be some way of assessing the risks before it is > too late. Apparently injecting waste into the ground for disposal is > regulated by federal Safe Drinking Water Act, but if the purpose is to > improve gas production, injecting proprietary chemicals into the well is > exempted from the Act. Sounds like a loophole that allows companies to > avoid liability for their actions and could potentially allow dumping > anything hanging around into a gas well that might be construed as helping > gas production. I would read the law. And the case law. "Mineral production" has a BUNCH of it in PA due to coal mines. Owning your land but not the minerals under it can be not a good thing. Oh, and as you bash those evil corporations and businesses don't let the evil consumers off the hook for consuming the products produced using evil methods by the evil business and corporations. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From rsorens at comcast.net Sun Mar 28 20:37:45 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting in Arizona....MAYBE Message-ID: Now here's a cause the PA ABATE should take up! http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/27/two-wheels-to-the-front-arizona-to-legali ze-lane-splitting-may/ Rick Sorensen R1150GS - Pseudo Adventure "TEKKI" - 'iron knight' R1150GS "KANKU III" - 'to view the sky' -------------------------------------------- "Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing often and for the same reason." Mark Twain From rsorens at comcast.net Sun Mar 28 20:39:48 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:39:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Bull Flugtag anyone? In-Reply-To: <4BAF9FD1.9080205@ptd.net> Message-ID: Chris says: >Well, I would volunteer as a pilot for whatever you guys would build, except I am not riding any goat. I think you left off the end of that sentence, Chris...."again". Rick From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 21:01:57 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:01:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting in Arizona....MAYBE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/28/10, Rick Sorensen wrote: > Now here's a cause the PA ABATE should take up! > > http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/27/two-wheels-to-the-front-arizona-to-legali > ze-lane-splitting-may/ Or if they could get enough people together, do something like this during the morning commute on the Schukyll. Doing everything legally and to the letter of the law.... http://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/france-the-massive-motorcycle-protest-of-this-weekend.htm Do some organization and start a slug down the road "all legal" and then have more folks staged at every entrance and have them join AHEAD of the starting slug. So, the group grows FORWARD. You need passengers with cell phones to coordinate with those waiting to "join". You also need riders with basic skills so you don't have a chain reaction crash either. :(:( -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From tpcutter at aol.com Sun Mar 28 23:11:07 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:11:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Bull Flugtag anyone? In-Reply-To: <4BAF9FD1.9080205@ptd.net> References: <2028233324.3973361269738937174.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><8296f6de1003272041j39bd4438p47dd63143089ac2b@mail.gmail.com> <4BAF9FD1.9080205@ptd.net> Message-ID: <8CC9CE314A61FFE-6440-12BD1@Webmail-m116.sysops.aol.com> <> What happened? You and the goat have a little spat? --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From mrmevans at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 23:22:34 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:22:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Bull Flugtag anyone? In-Reply-To: References: <2028233324.3973361269738937174.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8296f6de1003272041j39bd4438p47dd63143089ac2b@mail.gmail.com> <4BAF9FD1.9080205@ptd.net> Message-ID: <8296f6de1003281622y72c90d8eqdfe36ffa732ae43c@mail.gmail.com> Yes with a fox, Yes in a box. Yes in the rain, Yes on a train, But with a goat? - Michael Evans On 3/28/10, Dick wrote: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Chris wrote: > >> Well, I would volunteer as a pilot for whatever you guys would build, >> except I am not riding any goat. >> >> Chris Jaccarino > > Me thinks you protest too much.You got a goat in that new garage? > -- > BMW-Dick > -- Sent from my mobile device Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From tpcutter at aol.com Sun Mar 28 23:32:04 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:32:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Exploding Water In-Reply-To: <002401caceb0$b9a9f650$2cfde2f0$@com> References: <8296f6de1003270709y3995c56et574df1eba7f459af@mail.gmail.com> <002401caceb0$b9a9f650$2cfde2f0$@com> Message-ID: <8CC9CE6022DD360-6440-12EEB@Webmail-m116.sysops.aol.com> <> I'd be interested to know which crooked politician wrote that bit into the law, and how much under-the-table money he took from Big Oil. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From saylorspond at comcast.net Mon Mar 29 00:02:40 2010 From: saylorspond at comcast.net (saylorspond at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] March Riders' Dinner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <400427163.7762641269820960318.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I plan on attending and look forward to my first Mac-Pac meal. Scott -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100329/42aacc95/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 00:40:54 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:40:54 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Fracking wells Message-ID: Someone else sent me this. The lead in is a reference to the field I referenced in my earlier post. Apparently there are fields below it that can be "exploited" also. I watched the video. Assuming that gas operations are similar, I can see how things are "supposed" to work. Plus how if something goes wrong, they will not work right and gas can enter the water. I suspect that when they "do the shots" it does feel like an earthquake. One thing about the gas in the water. That is "lost gas" that they don't get paid for. Kind like it is not in the power company's interest to let your lights stay off any longer than they can help it when a storm comes through. It is not so much that they don't care, but something went wrong and they are LOOSING GAS. :(:( Those people could be heating their homes, heating their water and cooking with it..... Not only that but it is modeled as a "more potent" "green house gas" than CO2 in the climate models that show us drowning the world due to melting ice. That is why they are talking of putting catalytic converters on the ass of cows to burn the farts so they are "only" CO2 and not methane. ============ For those of you that haven't been following oil development in North Dakota, the Bakken shale underlies about the western third of the state and is estimated to contain over 500 Billion barrels. Yes that is Billion - not a typo. For comparison, Saudia Arabia has 25 billion and Alaska about the same. Recoverable with current technology is apparently 20% although two companies drilled two laterals in the same section in Mountrail County last summer. Up until those, the procedure was to go down vertically in one corner of a section (square mile) and drill horizontally (the lateral) at a diagonal across the section. (The closing scenes in the video are not Bakken wells - the wells are too close together.) One lateral in each section taps into a very small amount of the shale formation. Multiple laterals in one section may substantially increase the recoverable amounts. I've seen the Bakken crude and seen chemical analyses of it - it is very close to kerosene or diesel fuel - some of the sweetest crude in the world.. Initial production from the Bakken wells ranges from 300 to 2400 barrels per day depending on location since the shale seems to be different in different areas. The Sanish-Three Forks shale is immediately below the Bakken and underlies all of North Dakota. The Bears Den shale is below that and it also appears to underlie all of North Dakota . No estimates on total oil in either of these yet. All three of these formations extend into Montana and Saskatchewan . I've seen one article on the Bakken oil developments in the Wall Street Journal - nothing in any of the other media. Do you suppose that they fear support for alternative energy development would collapse if the public knew we have enough oil in North Dakota alone to supply our country's needs for many years to come?? Apparently they would prefer to cover the prairies with wind farms and the deserts with solar panels. Despite climategate and some seriously cold weather this winter they are still pushing global warming. In contrast to most states, North Dakota had $1 Billion surplus last year that they put into public schools and reduced our property taxes. Mostly from the severance tax on oil. Received this short video from BNC on how they drill the bakken wells. http://www.northernoil.com/drilling.php -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 00:53:28 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:53:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: What happens when the dog chasing the car catches it... Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9D9f_ySvkA (WS) I suspect someon is going to get a large bill for repairing the police car. Apparently it is just the ONE car and not police cars in general based on the video. Not sure at all what the other dogs are saying to the perp dog. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jasiii at earthlink.net Mon Mar 29 01:35:07 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:35:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Horn Switch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just to share.. The problem turned out to be a corroded relay Ahh the joy of tracing out an electric problem.. This is the first one I have seen go bad in a long time. I will be ordered a couple of replacement relays from Beaver Jim (still getting surprised) From 321design at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 02:14:10 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 22:14:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: What happens when the dog chasing the car catches it... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74d2fbe11003281914o42d8d0f4w50b322f477dd4643@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9D9f_ySvkA > (WS) > > I suspect someon is going to get a large bill for repairing the police > car. ?Apparently it is just the ONE car and not police cars in general > based on the video. > > Not sure at all what the other dogs are saying to the perp dog. > According to Professor Schwartzman, they were probably saying: HEY HEY HEY http://startitup.org/larson.jpg -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From jaburke4 at verizon.net Mon Mar 29 02:20:09 2010 From: jaburke4 at verizon.net (John Burkhauser) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 22:20:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Little known fact In-Reply-To: <4BA68ABB.2925.2B6EB4E8@localhost> References: <4BA68ABB.2925.2B6EB4E8@localhost> Message-ID: <29E6045E-0109-4D37-942A-A4DD1724CA98@verizon.net> Careful with the first URL. It's missing a period and takes you to a completely different website. Danger! From John A. Burkhauser On Mar 21, 2010, at 9:08 PM, "Joe Dille" wrote: > I recently needed to get several capicitors to fix the alarm in my > SAAB. They were three fairly common electrolytic capacitors. They > were cheap, like $0.20 each. The total for the three was $0.65. > > The Digikey corporation http://wwwdigikey.com has a policy that they > waive the already reasonable shipping charge is you fill out an order > form and mail them a check. So I printed out: > > http://pdfcatalog.digikey.com/US2010/order.pdf > > Then made out a check for 65 cents and mailed it in. I got my parts > the other day, no problem. The whole transaction cost me $1.09. > Very cool. > > Ride Safe, > > Joe > --------------------------------- > Joe Dille > Telford, PA USA > joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us > What happens on Earth, stays on Earth > http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From piechota at argolis.org Mon Mar 29 02:34:48 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 22:34:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] March Riders' Dinner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BB011C8.2090806@argolis.org> Ken Bruce wrote: > Its Spring, its beautiful, the snow is gone and nearly so is March! So, > I'll get right to the point... > > RIDERS' DINNER next Wednesday night, March 31st at the Drafting Room in > Exton, PA @ 6:30 > p.m. > http://www.draftingroom.com/exton/site_files/EX_info.html# "Likely!" From 321design at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 02:40:22 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 22:40:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] March Riders' Dinner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74d2fbe11003281940i19119bedwbdccca1d0d27dbec@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Ken Bruce wrote: > ?Its Spring, its beautiful, the snow is gone and nearly so is March! ?So, > ?I'll get right to the point... > > ?RIDERS' DINNER next Wednesday night, March 31st at the Drafting Room in > Exton, PA @ 6:30 Se you all there (except Ken). -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From brian at whatever2k.com Mon Mar 29 03:07:54 2010 From: brian at whatever2k.com (Brian Burdette) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 22:07:54 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting in Arizona....MAYBE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BB0198A.3040008@whatever2k.com> On 03/28/2010 03:37 PM, Rick Sorensen wrote: > Now here's a cause the PA ABATE should take up! > > http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/27/two-wheels-to-the-front-arizona-to-legali > ze-lane-splitting-may/ Or the AMA. As a Federal mandate. -- Brian Burdette -- brian at whatever2k dot com -- Pleasant Hill MO, USA From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Mar 29 10:47:52 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 06:47:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Fracking wells In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4BB04D18.19602.1E345E5@localhost> Snip... > > Received this short video from BNC on how they drill the bakken wells. > > http://www.northernoil.com/drilling.php Interesting. I wonder how they turn the drill. They made a big deal about what they did to seal the well. Not so much about what they did with the water that came up the hole. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com Mon Mar 29 12:05:01 2010 From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P Reminderbot) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:05:01 +0000 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Annual Gassing Day gathering , April 3 Saturday Message-ID: <121780.599557923-sendEmail@aria> April 3, 2010 - Gassing Day Gathering, Quentin, PA The Pennsylvania Airheads and the Mac-Pac will start the season with a Gassing Day lunch gathering in Quentin, PA. Peter Egan once wrote of Gassing Day: "One by one, I started up four motorcycles and took them to the gas station to put new fuel in their tanks. I got all the bikes gassed up, but when the job was done I felt somehow incomplete. It seemed a day as significant as the firing up and fueling of motorcycles in the spring should be accompanied by some sort of gala festival or solemn ceremony to commemorate the moment." We'll commemorate the moment at 1:00pm EDST at the Quentin Haus Restaurant, (717) 272-6475, at the intersection of PA Rte 72 and Rte 419. This location is east of Harrisburg and south of Lebanon, PA. This is also just north of PA Turnpike Exit 266. Let me know if you're coming so I can reserve tables. We can enjoy lunch then sun ourselves in the parking lot until it's time to roll. If the weather is still wintery, bring the car. People are more important than motorcycles. From ephoet at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 12:34:46 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:34:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] (Fwd) Re: OT: FIOS is where it is but won't be growi In-Reply-To: <4BAF30FA.24368.1EAC32CE@localhost> References: <4BAF30FA.24368.1EAC32CE@localhost> Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Joe Dille wrote: > > > ------- Forwarded message follows ------- > it appears: > > http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/27/verizon-shelves-plans-for-future-fios-rollouts-relocations-to-m/ > So, Xfinity is safe now where FIOS is not. > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Dille > > > Cathy, > > What's up with this. ?FiOS is stopping? > > Love, > > Joe > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Joe, This story is an example of what keeps me working 24x7 -- damage > control. ?We're not stopping, just concentrating in the areas that > we're already committed ?before moving on. ?Reporters love to run > with this kind of stuff ... Love, Cathy > > > --------------------------------- > Joe Dille Thanks Joe. However, Verison has been dragging their feet on rolling out digital VoIP phone service. Verizon had that for a time, it was called "Voicewing". It quickly and quietly disappeared from the marketplace. Funny given all the lawsuits against Vonage and the like. Can't provide the service yourself, but your happy to sue anyone else that does. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vonage#Patent_infringement http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/voip/verizon-voicewing-exits-voip-business.asp I've been told several times when calling Customer Service that a new VoIP service would be offered "soon". (end of summer 2009 was what I was last told.) Apparently "soon" at Verizon is measured in years................ I don't think the article is too out of line. One would imagine the economy is affecting Verizon's ability to pay OSC to lay in more fiber. The article does not claim that Verizon stopped completely, but slowed down the roll out for FIOS. Also suggests some areas may never get FIOS. Clear 4G broadband plans already are cheaper than Verizon FIOS, and while not quite as fast, certainly competitive. And LTE will eventually be getting their goat. That likely has them re-thinking their FIOS strategy. Erik Yes, I am a FIOS broadband and TV customer, but sticking with Vonage phone service for now. From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 12:39:42 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:39:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Michelangelo's David returns to Itally Message-ID: After a two year loan to the United States, Michelangelo's David is being returned to Italy . http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs475.ash1/26063_324758274911_665569911_3700426_8142204_n.jpg -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 12:53:55 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:53:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Fracking wells In-Reply-To: <4BB04D18.19602.1E345E5@localhost> References: <4BB04D18.19602.1E345E5@localhost> Message-ID: On 3/29/10, Joe Dille wrote: > Snip... > > > > > > Received this short video from BNC on how they drill the bakken wells. > > > > http://www.northernoil.com/drilling.php > > > Interesting. I wonder how they turn the drill. Big ass diesel engine. > They made a big deal about what they did to seal the well. Not so > much about what they did with the water that came up the hole. There have been news articles about its "disposal" through the local sewage treatment plants per the regulations. Out in Colorado where water is short, and they are concentrating horizontal wells per drill pad, (They move them a few feet, drill down and then go horizontal in another direction, or drill to another pocket.) they reuse the stuff, putting it in ponds between uses. Not sure on final disposal. >From the sewage disposal story, the worst problem was that they sucked local streams dry as a water source when they did the frack. That is an issue. Fishies are NOT happy. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Mon Mar 29 14:04:10 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Annual Gassing Day gathering , April 3 Saturday In-Reply-To: <121780.599557923-sendEmail@aria> Message-ID: <764129908.4381521269871450277.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >April 3, 2010 - Gassing Day Gathering, Quentin, PA > >The Pennsylvania Airheads and the Mac-Pac will start the season with a Gassing Day lunch gathering in >Quentin, PA. > >We'll commemorate the moment at 1:00pm EDST at the Quentin Haus Restaurant, (717) 272-6475, at the >intersection of PA Rte 72 and Rte 419. This location is east of Harrisburg and south of Lebanon, PA. This is >also just north of PA Turnpike Exit 266. Let me know if you're coming so I can reserve tables. We can enjoy >lunch then sun ourselves in the parking lot until it's time to roll. If the weather is still wintery, bring the car. >People are more important than motorcycles. As of right now the weather is supposed to be beautiful on Saturday (75 degrees and partly sunny). Make a longer day of it and plan to stop at my house before going up to Quentin for gassing day. I am about 1/2 hour from Quentin all on nice back roads. My garage doors will open up around 10AM. There will be coffee and donuts for those interested. If you plan on stopping by let me know so I know how much stuff to have on hand. Feel free to stop by even if your not going to gassing day. Berks County is full of interesting back roads. Address is 16 Austin Dr. Robesonia PA We are on Google maps, but were only added a couple of months ago, and the road is paved, not dirt as shown. If you have not updated your GPS maps recently it may not be on there. Find the intersection of 5 Point Rd and Sportsman Rd. in Robesonia. Austin drive is off of 5 Point. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Mar 29 14:22:50 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:22:50 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Fracking wells In-Reply-To: References: <4BB04D18.19602.1E345E5@localhost> Message-ID: <50320.12.181.211.35.1269872570.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > On 3/29/10, Joe Dille wrote: >> Snip... >> >> >> > >> > Received this short video from BNC on how they drill the bakken >> wells. >> > >> > http://www.northernoil.com/drilling.php >> >> >> Interesting. I wonder how they turn the drill. > > Big ass diesel engine. Not what I meant. How do they get the gopher to go straight down a mile then hang a Louie. > >> They made a big deal about what they did to seal the well. Not so >> much about what they did with the water that came up the hole. > > There have been news articles about its "disposal" through the local > sewage treatment plants per the regulations. > I think the regulations need a tweak as sewage plants deal well with organic carbons. They don't do squat for salts and other chemicals. Running them through the plant just gives you the illusion that they are going away. Ride Safe, Joe From chrisjac at ptd.net Mon Mar 29 14:49:33 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:49:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Fracking wells In-Reply-To: <50320.12.181.211.35.1269872570.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <4BB04D18.19602.1E345E5@localhost> <50320.12.181.211.35.1269872570.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <4BB0BDFD.8010505@ptd.net> Joe Dille wrote: > I think the regulations need a tweak as sewage plants deal well with > organic carbons. They don't do squat for salts and other chemicals. > Running them through the plant just gives you the illusion that they are > going away. > We have a winner! Ever think of road deicing compounds? Not sure that such is happening with frack fluids, but it could happen. I havent looked into enough, but am pretty sure I could achieve such if desired. Understand that based on regulations, industries produce products, coproducts and waste. A product is the primary item made...in this case natural gas/oil. A coproduct is ANYTHING produced during the production of your primary product that you can sell in the market and not pay for disposal. Frack fluids, if marketed right, could possibly be sold to someone else for some other use and thus become a coproduct. Waste material is stuff you have to pay to dispose off. Semantics, all semantics. I spent several years making sure many of Bethlehem Steels "wastes" were marketed and sold as coproducts and not wastes. It's all a game. Hey, sell 100 tons of crap for $2 and its a coproduct.....beats having to spend $4000 or $40,000 for waste disposal. Chris Jaccarino From mjcantwe at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 15:36:54 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:36:54 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Fracking wells In-Reply-To: <4BB04D18.19602.1E345E5@localhost> References: <4BB04D18.19602.1E345E5@localhost> Message-ID: <8bafeb801003290836v66d03025m4de4850735553e44@mail.gmail.com> > Interesting. ?I wonder how they turn the drill. > http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060725164514AA0ppZo From ephoet at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 16:08:24 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:08:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Fracking wells In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > ============ > > For those of you that haven't been following oil development in North > Dakota, the Bakken shale underlies about the western third of the > state and is estimated to contain over 500 Billion barrels. ?Yes that > is Billion - not a typo. ?For comparison, Saudia Arabia has 25 billion > and Alaska about the same. ?Recoverable with current technology is > apparently 20%................ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakken_Formation#History_of_Bakken_oil_generation_estimates Apparently the reserve estimates are widely varied, along with the estimated % recovery. >From the article: "An April 2008 USGS report estimated the amount of technically recoverable oil within the Bakken Formation at 3.0 to 4.3 billion barrels (680,000,000 m3), with a mean of 3.65 billion.[4] The state of North Dakota also released a report that month which estimated that there are 2.1 billion barrels (330,000,000 m3) of technically recoverable oil in the Bakken.[5]" Also "While these numbers would appear to indicate a massive reserve, the percentage of this oil which might be extracted using current technology is another matter. Estimates of the Bakken's technically recoverable oil have ranged from as low as 1% ? because the Bakken shale has generally low porosity and low permeability, making the oil difficult to extract ? to Leigh Price's estimate of 50% recoverable.[11] Reports issued by both the USGS and the state of North Dakota in April 2008 seem to indicate the lower range of recoverable estimates are more realistic with current technology." Quite a difference of opinion, 3.65 billion barrels (technically recoverable oil) vs 500 billion barrels (estimated to contain over ....). As usual, if its too good to be true............ EPH From ephoet at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 16:24:17 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:24:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Bull Flugtag anyone? In-Reply-To: <8296f6de1003281622y72c90d8eqdfe36ffa732ae43c@mail.gmail.com> References: <2028233324.3973361269738937174.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8296f6de1003272041j39bd4438p47dd63143089ac2b@mail.gmail.com> <4BAF9FD1.9080205@ptd.net> <8296f6de1003281622y72c90d8eqdfe36ffa732ae43c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Michael Evans wrote: > Yes with a fox, > Yes in a box. > Yes in the rain, > Yes on a train, > > But with a goat? > _______________________________________________ Would you, could you with a goat? I would not, could not, with a goat I will not eat them here or there, I would not eat them anywhere! Would you, could you, on a boat? I would not, would not, on a boat I will not, will not with a goat ...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdR0LXOiEB8 EPH From earle.bare at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 16:45:10 2010 From: earle.bare at gmail.com (Earle Bare) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:45:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Pre-Dinner Happy Hour Message-ID: All are welcome to stop by the M-P Bikeroom for a beer or soda and some bs-ing on Wednesday evening before the Drafting Room dinner. Directions at: http://www.mac-pac.org/, click on "Tire changing" on the left. Current drafts at the Bikeroom are the Victory St. Boisterous Hellerbock, Stoudt's Karnival K?lsch and Troegs Nugget Nectar. Current drafts at the Drafting Room are: http://www.tdrtaplist.blogspot.com/ It's less than two miles from the Bikeroom to the Drafting Room, map at: http://tinyurl.com/yjwovp3 Stop by after 4:30 pm. Earle Bare West Chester, PA From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 17:11:02 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:11:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Fracking wells In-Reply-To: <50320.12.181.211.35.1269872570.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <4BB04D18.19602.1E345E5@localhost> <50320.12.181.211.35.1269872570.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: On 3/29/10, Joe Dille wrote: > > On 3/29/10, Joe Dille wrote: > >> Snip... > >> Interesting. I wonder how they turn the drill. > > > > Big ass diesel engine. > > > Not what I meant. How do they get the gopher to go straight down a mile > then hang a Louie. Oh. You sent me hunting. It turns out I worked with a company that made their initial name with "better threaded joints" for the drill string, and then seals for the moving parts that survived the environment (Mud is not "low abrasion") and I remembered that they even have "mud pressure pulse" telemetry coming "up the mud column" too. Decent on how it is done. http://www.energyindustryphotos.com/how_oil_and_gas_wells_are_drille.htm This one has an interesting and descriptive PDF at the end on what is done in drilling a well. Not a lot on horizontal. But there is more to drilling a well, than just punching a hole downward. http://www.horizontaldrilling.org/ There are folks in West Virginia advocating for it. Figuring it is better than than the alternative. Might be corporate cover too. http://www.wvsoro.org/resources/marcellus/horiz_drilling.html The NY Department of Environmental Conservation says "We are ON IT!" http://www.dec.ny.gov/energy/46288.html Video. There is a LOT of changes going on down there and stuff is drilled through a lot of times http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5670798591045714611# This one is a discussion of the results of using horizontal drilling versus vertical. Big difference to the better it appears. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEmadgNz9vI Then there is when things go all pear shaped. I would NOT want to be around. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYTO_0_0ReQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5CEmmskyDk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgL_KywKLwM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbd9BbLqwTA All WS. > >> They made a big deal about what they did to seal the well. Not so > >> much about what they did with the water that came up the hole. > > > > There have been news articles about its "disposal" through the local > > sewage treatment plants per the regulations. > > I think the regulations need a tweak as sewage plants deal well with > organic carbons. They don't do squat for salts and other chemicals. > Running them through the plant just gives you the illusion that they are > going away. Talk to the NY DEC.... Chris is quite right too. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 17:13:52 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:13:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Fracking wells In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/29/10, Erik Hoet wrote: > Apparently the reserve estimates are widely varied, along with the > estimated % recovery. > Quite a difference of opinion, 3.65 billion barrels (technically > recoverable oil) vs 500 billion barrels (estimated to contain over > ....). > > As usual, if its too good to be true............ Or not. Think of the range of electric power's usefulness before Telsa and Westinghouse. Low voltage DC sucked. A LOT depends on your base assumptions and what is available for technology. If you have a bunch of CO2 I suspect it would push it along decently too. If you want REAL magic on reserves look at some of the numbers coming out of the state oil companies in the Mideast. REAL smoke and mirrors possilble there, since the numbers are state secrets to be sure. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motoedde2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 17:23:43 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:23:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Tailgating Solution? Message-ID: Another way to create space between you and others? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7528253/Flame-thrower-scooter-owner-arrested.html -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 17:26:06 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:26:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rolly I think you need to borrow a /2 from Todd Message-ID: Or this might be part of his sidecar band. Need a BIG amp to work with the /2 exhaust note though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ThSi1wbqU (WS, needs sound.) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motorrader at verizon.net Mon Mar 29 18:37:16 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:37:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rolly I think you need to borrow a /2 from Todd References: Message-ID: > Or this might be part of his sidecar band. Need a BIG amp to work > with the /2 exhaust note though. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ThSi1wbqU > Brian Curry Yes, I saw this video awhile back. Very nice! Todd From jack.riepe at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 19:58:38 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:58:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Fallen Trees Removed By an Expert... Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: A number of substantial tree branches came crashing down into the yard during the snowstorms of February. One was about 25 feet long, and over a foot in diameter at the semi-attached end. These branches arched over a split-rail fence, which provided something of an obstacle. In the front of the house, a delicate and highly ornamental magnolia tree had also been damaged by the storm and needed pruning. Roddy Irwin was the professional on the spot who cut and removed the debris, and who trimmed the magnolia tree, in less time than I would have thought possible. He then carted off the sawdust too. For an encore, he came into the house and sang an Irish ballad. If any of you have problems with fallen trees, rotted timber, or standing trees likely to become insurance liabilities, Roddy Irwin is the man to call. His no bullshit, "Let's get it done," approach to business is very gratifying. I give his services my highest recommendation. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From mjcantwe at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 20:06:20 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:06:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Amazing Numerical test to predict your most-watched film Message-ID: <8bafeb801003291306q7d3f9a93lace7fa63a5c8f697@mail.gmail.com> This is one of those amazing prediction tools using mathematics...try it out. I'm sure you will appreciate the answer.... AMAZING! ? This simple numerical test can predict your all-time most-watched film. Mine was "Forrest Gump ".Try it without looking at the answers. It's easy and it really works! OK, Ready? ? Pick a number from 1 - 9. Multiply by 3. Add 3. Multiply that by 3. Add those two digits together. Use the resulting number to find your all time favorite movie in the list below. Now, find the movie that corresponds with your number. 1. Gone With The Wind. 2. Aliens.. 3. Dances With Wolves. 4. Star Wars. 5. Forrest Gump. 6. Saving Private Ryan. 7. Jaws. 8. Doctor Zhivago. 9. The Joy Of Anal Sex with Male Goats & Leather Clad Gay Boys. 10. Mary Poppins. From wateredg at interlog.com Mon Mar 29 20:20:19 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:20:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Amazing Numerical test to predict your most-watchedfilm References: <8bafeb801003291306q7d3f9a93lace7fa63a5c8f697@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Michael, From: "Michael Cantwell" > Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Amazing Numerical test to predict your > most-watchedfilm > > This is one of those amazing prediction tools using mathematics...try it > out. I'm sure you will appreciate the answer.... [...] I have not done the test yet, but I would like to first validate *your* results. Which number did you pick? I will apply the same rules, using the number you picked, to see if I also get to "Forrest Gump." -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From rcavalie at verizon.net Mon Mar 29 20:28:44 2010 From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:28:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Amazing Numerical test to predict your most-watched film In-Reply-To: <8bafeb801003291306q7d3f9a93lace7fa63a5c8f697@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bafeb801003291306q7d3f9a93lace7fa63a5c8f697@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601cacf7e$72d65b00$58831100$@net> As Yogi would say, "D?j? vu, all over again"! Rick Cavaliere -----Original Message----- From: mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com [mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com] On Behalf Of Michael Cantwell Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 4:06 PM To: mac-Pac Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Amazing Numerical test to predict your most-watched film This is one of those amazing prediction tools using mathematics...try it out. I'm sure you will appreciate the answer.... AMAZING! ? This simple numerical test can predict your all-time most-watched film. Mine was "Forrest Gump ".Try it without looking at the answers. It's easy and it really works! OK, Ready? ? Pick a number from 1 - 9. Multiply by 3. Add 3. Multiply that by 3. Add those two digits together. Use the resulting number to find your all time favorite movie in the list below. Now, find the movie that corresponds with your number. 1. Gone With The Wind. 2. Aliens.. 3. Dances With Wolves. 4. Star Wars. 5. Forrest Gump. 6. Saving Private Ryan. 7. Jaws. 8. Doctor Zhivago. 9. The Joy Of Anal Sex with Male Goats & Leather Clad Gay Boys. 10. Mary Poppins. snip From wayne at 2zars.com Mon Mar 29 20:51:50 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:51:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] moving but not Message-ID: <7fbead931003291351s6a33dbera73ed09f2b32619a@mail.gmail.com> I posted this photo on my blog this morning. It does contain BMW content, since the photo is a shot of my bike. I thought it looked pretty cool. You may think otherwise. Feel free to comment accordingly or not. http://2zars.blogspot.com/2010/03/moving-but-not.html (WS) I have another artsy shot I'll be posting soon and I'll let the group know when that happens or not. -- Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From Ducdude at verizon.net Mon Mar 29 21:05:41 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:05:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Amazing Numerical test to predict your most-watched film References: <8bafeb801003291306q7d3f9a93lace7fa63a5c8f697@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4528ADA694404CF1B7F61CE811EBAB15@heilveil5e3fdd> This is one of those amazing prediction tools using mathematics...try it out. I'm sure you will appreciate the answer.... AMAZING! This simple numerical test can predict your all-time most-watched film. Mine was "Forrest Gump ".Try it without looking at the answers. It's easy and it really works! OK, Ready? Pick a number from 1 - 9. Multiply by 3. Add 3. Multiply that by 3. Add those two digits together. Use the resulting number to find your all time favorite movie in the list below. Now, find the movie that corresponds with your number. 1. Gone With The Wind. 2. Aliens.. 3. Dances With Wolves. 4. Star Wars. 5. Forrest Gump. 6. Saving Private Ryan. 7. Jaws. 8. Doctor Zhivago. 9. The Joy Of Anal Sex with Male Goats & Leather Clad Gay Boys. 10. Mary Poppins. --------------------------------- WOW That sure explains a lot..!! Duc From mjcantwe at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 21:17:04 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:17:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Amazing Numerical test to predict your most-watchedfilm In-Reply-To: References: <8bafeb801003291306q7d3f9a93lace7fa63a5c8f697@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8bafeb801003291417j73d9d98fy1a68dee305d515a@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Steve Makohin wrote: > Hello Michael, > I have not done the test yet, but I would like to first validate *your* > results. Which number did you pick? I will apply the same rules, using the > number you picked, to see if I also get to "Forrest Gump." Steve, I think 2, 5 or 8 would work well. From jweiss11 at comcast.net Mon Mar 29 23:34:22 2010 From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:34:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Annual Gassing Day gathering , April 3 Saturday In-Reply-To: <764129908.4381521269871450277.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <121780.599557923-sendEmail@aria> <764129908.4381521269871450277.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <425E925E0BC64B70A8BBD556BDE3400D@jackde48df08c6> >April 3, 2010 - Gassing Day Gathering, Quentin, PA > >The Pennsylvania Airheads and the Mac-Pac will start the season with a Gassing Day lunch gathering in >Quentin, PA. > As of right now the weather is supposed to be beautiful on Saturday (75 degrees and partly sunny). Make a longer day of it and plan to stop at my house before going up to Quentin for gassing day. I am about 1/2 hour from Quentin all on nice back roads. My garage doors will open up around 10AM. There will be coffee and donuts for those interested. If you plan on stopping by let me know so I know how much stuff to have on hand. Feel free to stop by even if your not going to gassing day. Berks County is full of interesting back roads. Address is 16 Austin Dr. Robesonia PA John Clauss +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hi John, Thanks for the invite. I plan on being there. Jack Weiss From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 23:59:42 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:59:42 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Laid back sportbike Message-ID: <4a4431121003291659s62fab2d6ibe791ada90654884@mail.gmail.com> Bet this guy doesn't have to worry about his front tire washing out on corners. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM-S7lnfmQM ECO Dano Greensboro NC From jasiii at earthlink.net Tue Mar 30 00:08:33 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:08:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] moving but not In-Reply-To: <7fbead931003291351s6a33dbera73ed09f2b32619a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > http://2zars.blogspot.com/2010/03/moving-but-not.html > (WS) > > > I have another artsy shot I'll be posting soon and I'll let the group > know when that happens > Nice and the rusty bolts are good also Thanks Jim From mlt722 at mac.com Tue Mar 30 00:23:51 2010 From: mlt722 at mac.com (Tom Terribilini) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:23:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] (Fwd) Re: OT: FIOS is where it is but won't be growi In-Reply-To: References: <4BAF30FA.24368.1EAC32CE@localhost> Message-ID: <00DBB76C-5F55-4793-A75F-74C7B52DAA7F@mac.com> Don't worry once you get it they will increase your rates till you can't afford them. I have waited on the phone tonight for 55 minutes for them to explain why I have my third price increase in 5 months. They just told me they would give me a "coupon to decrease my payment by the $10 they wanted to raise me but I would have to get 30 less channels. Great business to be in!!!!! On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Erik Hoet wrote: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Joe Dille > wrote: >> >> >> ------- Forwarded message follows ------- >> it appears: >> >> http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/27/verizon-shelves-plans-for-future-fios-rollouts-relocations-to-m/ > >> So, Xfinity is safe now where FIOS is not. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joe Dille >> >> >> Cathy, >> >> What's up with this. FiOS is stopping? >> >> Love, >> >> Joe >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Joe, This story is an example of what keeps me working 24x7 -- damage >> control. We're not stopping, just concentrating in the areas that >> we're already committed before moving on. Reporters love to run >> with this kind of stuff ... Love, Cathy >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Joe Dille > > Thanks Joe. > > However, Verison has been dragging their feet on rolling out digital > VoIP phone service. Verizon had that for a time, it was called > "Voicewing". It quickly and quietly disappeared from the marketplace. > Funny given all the lawsuits against Vonage and the like. Can't > provide the service yourself, but your happy to sue anyone else that > does. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vonage#Patent_infringement > http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/voip/verizon-voicewing-exits-voip-business.asp > > I've been told several times when calling Customer Service that a new > VoIP service would be offered "soon". (end of summer 2009 was what I > was last told.) > Apparently "soon" at Verizon is measured in years................ > > I don't think the article is too out of line. One would imagine the > economy is affecting Verizon's ability to pay OSC to lay in more > fiber. The article does not claim that Verizon stopped completely, > but slowed down the roll out for FIOS. Also suggests some areas may > never get FIOS. > > Clear 4G broadband plans already are cheaper than Verizon FIOS, and > while not quite as fast, certainly competitive. > And LTE will eventually be getting their goat. That likely has them > re-thinking their FIOS strategy. > > Erik > Yes, I am a FIOS broadband and TV customer, but sticking with Vonage > phone service for now. > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From Braveirwin at aol.com Tue Mar 30 00:33:54 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:33:54 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Fallen Trees Removed By an Expert... Message-ID: <8f202.49aea90e.38e2a0f2@aol.com> In a message dated 3/29/2010 3:59:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jack.riepe at gmail.com writes: I give his services my highest recommendation. =-==================================== And after I sang the Irish ballad, I was fed and entertained by Jack and his high school buddy. You make some really tasty mashed potatoes, Jack. And thank you so much for the accolades. Roddy. Roddy Irwin, Arborist of Berks County '92 K 75 RT '85 R 80 RT '74 CB 200 T '89 R 100 RS with trailer and assorted dirt bikes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100329/4949ab0c/attachment.html From wateredg at interlog.com Tue Mar 30 00:45:48 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:45:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Mulholland Hwy good for dropping your bike (was "Laid back sportbike") References: <4a4431121003291659s62fab2d6ibe791ada90654884@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8138CA5CC8E74955882E49756FAFB8E8@9200c> Hello all, Along the right side of the original video, I found a ton of links for videos of all sorts of folks dropping their bikes on a stretch of Mulholland Hwy, including one guy who low-sides in front of a cruiser. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBTGgT_V5F8&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESzMA-YlS6U&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up2UvuRLdTE&feature=channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWsnw1A5ee4&feature=channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNrp1Jzs7pg&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-tdrf8nrQQ&feature=related Crashes are predictable enough for people to set up video cameras to catch the eventual action. I guess cops know that, too. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Tue Mar 30 00:47:49 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:47:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] March Riders' Dinner & Labrador Planning Meeting References: Message-ID: <0E6E86E0914248C8BC3C376052C289DC@home.robinson.org> For those who show up for dinner the Labrador Planning Commitee will also meet to discuss ongoing plans. Jim Robinson West Chester PA From gary5410 at aol.com Tue Mar 30 01:37:38 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:37:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] March Riders' Dinner & Labrador Planning Meeting In-Reply-To: <0E6E86E0914248C8BC3C376052C289DC@home.robinson.org> References: <0E6E86E0914248C8BC3C376052C289DC@home.robinson.org> Message-ID: <8CC9DC0B72F5965-8C8-ADC5@webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com> Won't be making the dinner.......:-( Gary Christman R 1200 GS Adventure -----Original Message----- From: Jim Robinson To: MAC-PAC Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 8:47 pm Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] March Riders' Dinner & Labrador Planning Meeting For those who show up for dinner the Labrador Planning Commitee will also meet to discuss ongoing plans. Jim Robinson West Chester PA _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From gary5410 at aol.com Tue Mar 30 01:42:18 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:42:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen floor and window Message-ID: <8CC9DC15E52CB3C-8C8-AE76@webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com> Advantech floor in and framed for new window......took a little jacking to get the new header in! A few pics from today......... http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#823003892_KrqnH Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From wayne at 2zars.com Tue Mar 30 02:08:47 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:08:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen floor and window In-Reply-To: <8CC9DC15E52CB3C-8C8-AE76@webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9DC15E52CB3C-8C8-AE76@webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: >Advantech floor in and framed for new window......took a little jacking >to get the new header in! >A few pics from today......... > >http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#823003892_KrqnH > Looks good, but why the stud in the middle of the window? Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From gary5410 at aol.com Tue Mar 30 02:11:16 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:11:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen floor and window In-Reply-To: References: <8CC9DC15E52CB3C-8C8-AE76@webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CC9DC569E00AA5-8C8-B34D@webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com> Holding the plywood over the hole in the wall...... ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Woodruff To: Gary Christman Cc: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 10:08 pm Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen floor and window >Advantech floor in and framed for new window......took a little jacking >to get the new header in! >A few pics from today......... > >http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#823003892_ KrqnH > Looks good, but why the stud in the middle of the window? Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From jasiii at earthlink.net Tue Mar 30 02:17:27 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:17:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen floor and window In-Reply-To: <8CC9DC15E52CB3C-8C8-AE76@webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: > Advantech floor in and framed for new window......took a little jacking > to get the new header in! > A few pics from today......... > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#823003892_KrqnH > > Gary Christman Looks great .. That side cutter is a great tool to use.. Now I know were to borrow one Liked the shot with all the screws started looking like toy soldiers Jim From piechota at argolis.org Tue Mar 30 02:59:57 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:59:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Laid back sportbike In-Reply-To: <4a4431121003291659s62fab2d6ibe791ada90654884@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a4431121003291659s62fab2d6ibe791ada90654884@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BB1692D.3060500@argolis.org> Dan Whitfield wrote: > Bet this guy doesn't have to worry about his front tire washing out on corners. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM-S7lnfmQM Reminds me of the Dan Gurney Alligator. http://www.allamericanracers.com/alligator/alligator_home.html That didn't take the world by storm. If I had to guess, it's not cruiser enough for the cruiser guys, and sportbike guys like to be able to use their legs while riding. From tpcutter at aol.com Tue Mar 30 03:16:51 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:16:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] A few photos from my garage Message-ID: <8CC9DCE9393EDFE-C4C-610E@webmail-d088.sysops.aol.com> In my dreams... This guy has the pimpin' garage. Absolutely blows away every mundane exotic car and motorcycle collection, when you add a few fighter jets and a missile or two. He has most of the Ducati factory team bikes from the last 15 years. http://www.luxury4play.com/automotive/36568-worlds-most-beautiful-garages-exotics-insane-garage-picture-thread-50-pics-147.html If I won the lottery, I'd have all that stuff, but I'd have an aircraft carrier to keep it on. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From jack.riepe at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 04:01:04 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 00:01:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Amazing Numerical test to predict your most-watchedfilm In-Reply-To: References: <8bafeb801003291306q7d3f9a93lace7fa63a5c8f697@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Steve: Mike Cantwell has a lot in common with the main character in Forrest Gump. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From gary5410 at aol.com Tue Mar 30 04:25:11 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 00:25:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] A few photos from my garage In-Reply-To: <8CC9DCE9393EDFE-C4C-610E@webmail-d088.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9DCE9393EDFE-C4C-610E@webmail-d088.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CC9DD81F61625F-1E04-15DF3@webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com> Tom, Amazing stuff! You're going to need a BIG lottery win for that aircraft carrier! Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure -----Original Message----- From: Tom Cutter In my dreams... This guy has the pimpin' garage. If I won the lottery, I'd have all that stuff, but I'd have an aircraft carrier to keep it on. Tom Cutter From motoedde2 at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 05:20:28 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 01:20:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] A few photos from my garage In-Reply-To: <8CC9DCE9393EDFE-C4C-610E@webmail-d088.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9DCE9393EDFE-C4C-610E@webmail-d088.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Tom Cutter wrote: > In my dreams... > > This guy has the pimpin' garage. Absolutely blows away every mundane > exotic car and motorcycle collection, when you add a few fighter jets > and a missile or two. He has most of the Ducati factory team bikes from > the last 15 years. > > http://www.luxury4play.com/automotive/36568-worlds-most-beautiful-garages-exotics-insane-garage-picture-thread-50-pics-147.html > > If I won the lottery, I'd have all that stuff, but I'd have an aircraft > carrier to keep it on. If you drank enough Pepsi...you could have won that Harrier;) edde -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com Tue Mar 30 11:29:38 2010 From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:29:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] ISO Dave Roos in Mayo QC Message-ID: Dave, mail to you is bouncing. Please reply off list. Todd byrum Gilbertsville, PA From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 12:01:56 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:01:56 +0200 Subject: [MAC-PAC] March Riders' Dinner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Ken Bruce wrote: > ?Its Spring, its beautiful, the snow is gone and nearly so is March! ?So, > ?I'll get right to the point... > > ?RIDERS' DINNER next Wednesday night, March 31st at the Drafting Room in > Exton, PA @ 6:30 Wish I could join you but I'm still in Germany, maybe returning next Wednesday Apr 7. Have fun. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 12:07:47 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:07:47 +0200 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R still in Germany Message-ID: Marta, my girlfriend's mother, is still hanging in there. She was almost gone when we arrived here near Stuttgart two weeks ago. But since then she has taken a little water each day and sometimes a spoonful of farina. She can scarcely talk but recognizes us and is very glad to have us there. This gives a break to the other sister who was staying up with Marta every night for many months now. I have had to reschedule our return with Lufthansa 3 or 4 times now. The return is now to be April 7. If Marta is still stable then, we will probably come home and then return here again after a week or two. Planning is tough, but the important thing is to be here when we're needed. I'm learning lots of German from books I'm reading all day and from family conversations. A lot is in the Schwabisch dialect, which I've been trying to learn for years. As I think I've said before, the family continues to spoil me rotten with wonderful food and wine. I've been invited to flyfishing, motorcycle riding, disco-hopping and other trips, but this time I'm saying no and hanging near home to concentrate on whatever Marta needs. It's tough for my girlfriend (Hannelore) being away from the horse farm she runs for this long. But I have always loved it here and don't mind staying on at all. See you all soon. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From mjcantwe at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 12:08:16 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:08:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Amazing Numerical test to predict your most-watchedfilm In-Reply-To: References: <8bafeb801003291306q7d3f9a93lace7fa63a5c8f697@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8bafeb801003300508r29fb90bbo1e7f3e115f5a564e@mail.gmail.com> Life is like a box of chocolates From tpcutter at aol.com Tue Mar 30 12:39:58 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:39:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] March Riders' Dinner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC9E1D3E223326-18D4-9DFA@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com> Paula and I might make it. Gotta see how work shakes out. Kinda busy over here. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From kaldewaay at live.com Tue Mar 30 13:12:56 2010 From: kaldewaay at live.com (Alain Kaldewaay) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:12:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] computer problem and GPS unit down Message-ID: Folks what is happing to me, Lap-top is down both in normal and safe mode the computer screen is blank the mouse works that is it !!! The BMW Zumo 550 shuts down when I put in the address of a location !!! Any help would be great ? DAK _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/ From glennscheitrum at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 13:44:07 2010 From: glennscheitrum at gmail.com (Glenn Scheitrum) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:44:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] computer problem and GPS unit down In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <119C7309-2D08-497C-920F-B34903590C38@gmail.com> Alain, Can't help with the laptop but the Zumo problem may be the same problem I had with a flawed upgrade. Check the version number on your software. The 3.9 version had problems with SD memory cards and would shut down when an address was entered. Try either a newer or older version of the Zumo software. Good luck, Glenn 95 K1100RS San Mateo, CA > > Folks what is happing to me, > > Lap-top is down both in normal and safe mode the computer screen is > blank the mouse works that is it !!! > The BMW Zumo 550 shuts down when I put in the address of a > location !!! > Any help would be great ? > From jack.riepe at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 14:16:44 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:16:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: I've been feeling lousy all week... And it wasn't the Sliders. Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: I got pretty dehydrated on the run back from New Jersey 9 days ago. But drinking a lot of fluid when I got back home did not immediately allieviate the light-headedness, the cotton mouth feeling, and incredible sense of fatigue. A day or two later I really started feeling like shit from time to time, and the signs of an infection (pain in my groin) started to increase. I passed a kidney stone the size of a .22 caliber bullet this morning. I know because I measured it with calipers that were in the tool kit I bought from Clyde. If this thing hatches, a T-Rex could come out of it. I haven't been troubled with these things in over 15 years. I doubt that getting dehydrated on that last ride (my first of the season) could be solely responsible for this... But it didn't help. I will now carry two quarts of water with me and drink a pint every time I stop. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From mrmevans at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 14:31:56 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:31:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: I've been feeling lousy all week... And it wasn't the Sliders. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8296f6de1003300731y5b0b371ap391fea3c382bc8bf@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: > > I passed a kidney stone the size of a .22 caliber bullet this morning. > I know because I measured it with calipers that were in the tool kit I > bought from Clyde. Glad to hear you are feeling better Jack. You know, your friend Bregstein thought he was going to pass a stone once, but he target fixated and hit it dead on instead. Consider yourself lucky. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From Doug at pencader.com Tue Mar 30 16:19:27 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:19:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: I've been feeling lousy all week... And it wasn't the Sliders. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01b201cad024$c7151c50$553f54f0$@com> Jack wrote; >>> snippage > I passed a kidney stone the size of a .22 caliber bullet this morning. >>> more snips > I will now carry two quarts of water with me and drink a pint every > time I stop. >>> end Jack, Sounds to me like you are now better equipped for the next ride 'n shoot, given that you are capable of producing your own ammo. Good luck getting flushed out, Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE -- From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Tue Mar 30 18:26:52 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:26:52 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] ThOT: The Osprey At War Message-ID: <36194.12.181.211.35.1269973612.squirrel@12.181.211.35> I am sure videos of the Osprey have been around for a while, but I stumbled on these and they are great. Typical flight http://www.airspacemag.com/multimedia/videos/A-Ride-on-the-MV-22.html Folding for storage! http://www.airspacemag.com/multimedia/videos/An-Osprey-Folds-its-Wings.html It came from this article, which is quite good. http://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/Osprey-at-War.html?c=y&page=1 Fly Safe, Joe From kaldewaay at live.com Tue Mar 30 19:26:17 2010 From: kaldewaay at live.com (Kaldewaay) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:26:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] computer problem and GPS unit down In-Reply-To: <119C7309-2D08-497C-920F-B34903590C38@gmail.com> References: <119C7309-2D08-497C-920F-B34903590C38@gmail.com> Message-ID: Glenn, Thanks for the advise it worked it did cost me a $69 up grade but man do I feel better. Better then sending the gps unit back to Garmin for a $150 flat charge. It is worth being a member of Macers Pacers thanks Sent from Alain Kaldewaay IPhone On Mar 30, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Glenn Scheitrum wrote: > Alain, > > Can't help with the laptop but the Zumo problem may be the same > problem I had with a flawed upgrade. Check the version number on > your software. The 3.9 version had problems with SD memory cards and > would shut down when an address was entered. Try either a newer or > older version of the Zumo software. > > Good luck, > Glenn > 95 K1100RS > San Mateo, CA > >> >> Folks what is happing to me, >> >> Lap-top is down both in normal and safe mode the computer screen is >> blank the mouse works that is it !!! >> The BMW Zumo 550 shuts down when I put in the address of a >> location !!! >> Any help would be great ? >> > From kaldewaay at live.com Tue Mar 30 19:29:58 2010 From: kaldewaay at live.com (Kaldewaay) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:29:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] March Riders' Dinner & Labrador Planning Meeting In-Reply-To: <0E6E86E0914248C8BC3C376052C289DC@home.robinson.org> References: <0E6E86E0914248C8BC3C376052C289DC@home.robinson.org> Message-ID: We Susie and I will try to attend, I'm coming from Scraton, Pa via bike and Susie will have to come over via cage transportation. Sent from Alain Kaldewaay IPhone On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:47 PM, "Jim Robinson" wrote: > For those who show up for dinner the Labrador Planning Commitee will > also > meet to discuss ongoing plans. > > Jim Robinson > West Chester PA > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From jack.riepe at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 19:48:34 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:48:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] computer problem and GPS unit down In-Reply-To: References: <119C7309-2D08-497C-920F-B34903590C38@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Alain: What's the deal with the computer? -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From kaldewaay at live.com Tue Mar 30 20:05:52 2010 From: kaldewaay at live.com (Kaldewaay) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:05:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] computer problem and GPS unit down In-Reply-To: References: <119C7309-2D08-497C-920F-B34903590C38@gmail.com> Message-ID: Jack, Blank screen, mouse workes but does not boot up. It's all balck and stay that way even in safe mode. Shit is only a year or so old. Maybe to much Amish pole dancer movies ? Sent from Alain Kaldewaay IPhone On Mar 30, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Alain: > > What's the deal with the computer? > > -- > Fondest regards, > Jack > The Lindbergh Baby > West Chester, Pa > > "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still > have to be nice to them, at first." > ? My Mother, Rita Riepe > From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 20:14:29 2010 From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (hugh mccann) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:14:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] computer problem and GPS unit down In-Reply-To: References: <119C7309-2D08-497C-920F-B34903590C38@gmail.com> Message-ID: Does it power off? it should then go through a POST (power on self test) and beep if there are problems, mouse driver loads later in the boot process Things ta do: Power off completely (if Notebook, remove battery- replace) Re-seat HD Re-seat and test RAM modules (one at a time if possible) reboot normally. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Kaldewaay wrote: > Jack, > Blank screen, mouse workes but does not boot up. It's all balck and > stay that way even in safe mode. Shit is only a year or so old. Maybe > to much Amish pole dancer movies ? > > > > Sent from Alain Kaldewaay IPhone > > On Mar 30, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Jack Riepe wrote: > >> Dear Alain: >> >> What's the deal with the computer? >> >> -- >> Fondest regards, >> Jack >> The Lindbergh Baby >> West Chester, Pa >> >> "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still >> have to be nice to them, at first." >> ? My Mother, Rita Riepe >> > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From kgbruce1 at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 22:35:34 2010 From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:35:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] March RIDERS' DINNER...TOMORROW NIGHT!! Message-ID: Thanks to all who have responded! Its Spring, its beautiful, the snow is gone and nearly so is March! So, I'll get right to the point... RIDERS' DINNER TOMORROW NIGHT, Wednesday, March 31st at the Drafting Room in Exton, PA @ 6:30 p.m. http://www.draftingroom.com/exton/site_files/EX_info.html# Early forecast for TOMORROW night is darn near perfect spring riding weather....even if its not, come on out to the Riders' Dinner. The Drafting Room does a nice job with good food & great brews (FTOYWDB) If you can, give me a heads up if you intend to attend so I can inform (warn) the restaurant. If you don't know til the last minute, that's OK, just show up! That's it, short n sweet! I have to get this out now! Come on out to the Riders' Dinner TOMORROW NIGHT! Thanks, Ken Bruce -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100330/a205c416/attachment.html From bergman at panix.com Tue Mar 30 22:40:25 2010 From: bergman at panix.com (bergman at panix.com) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:40:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] March RIDERS' DINNER...TOMORROW NIGHT!! Message-ID: <10377.1269988825@localhost> In the message dated: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:35:34 EDT, The pithy ruminations from Ken Bruce on <[MAC-PAC] March RIDERS' DINNER...TOMORROW NIGHT!!> were: => Thanks to all who have responded! => => Its Spring, its beautiful, the snow is gone and nearly so is March! So, It may be spring...but if you think it's beautiful, then maybe an adjustment of meds (or sharing with me!) is in order. It's raining pretty hard here in Philly. Cold and icky. In fact, today's weather inspired my morning haiku: Leaky Aerostich foggy faceshield but dry head still preferred to train Mark => I'll get right to the point... => => RIDERS' DINNER TOMORROW NIGHT, Wednesday, March 31st at the Drafting Room => in => Exton, PA @ 6:30 p.m. [SNIP!] => => Thanks, => => Ken Bruce From jasiii at earthlink.net Tue Mar 30 22:52:10 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:52:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: I've been feeling lousy all week... And it wasn't the Sliders. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I passed a kidney stone the size of a .22 caliber bullet this morning. > I know because I measured it with calipers that were in the tool kit I > bought from Clyde. If this thing hatches, a T-Rex could come out of > it. I haven't been troubled with these things in over 15 years. I > doubt that getting dehydrated on that last ride (my first of the > season) could be solely responsible for this... But it didn't help. > > I will now carry two quarts of water with me and drink a pint every > time I stop. Jack Just to clear up.. A kidney stone takes months to form.. You are most likely suffering from Christmas/New Years indulgences http://kidneystonessymptoms.org/ http://www.kidneyfund.org/kidney-health/kidney-problems/kidney-stones.html?g clid=CLGEgqzH4aACFctx5QodZghBBg Glad you passed the 'bullet' Jim From wayne at 2zars.com Tue Mar 30 22:58:27 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:58:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: I've been feeling lousy all week... And it wasn't the Sliders. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I passed a kidney stone the size of a .22 caliber bullet this morning. >I know because I measured it with calipers that were in the tool kit I >bought from Clyde. If this thing hatches, a T-Rex could come out of >it. I haven't been troubled with these things in over 15 years. I >doubt that getting dehydrated on that last ride (my first of the >season) could be solely responsible for this... But it didn't help. Jack, I feel your pain, seriously. I hope you are feeling better. My sister called me last week, she's sporting a 7mm beauty that will be removed next week. Lucky her. Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From jweiss11 at comcast.net Tue Mar 30 23:12:32 2010 From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:12:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] March RIDERS' DINNER...TOMORROW NIGHT!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <445DBDC848E24B0DA02F9F4A09F4E288@jackde48df08c6> RIDERS' DINNER TOMORROW NIGHT, Wednesday, March 31st at the Drafting Room in Exton, PA @ 6:30 p.m. http://www.draftingroom.com/exton/site_files/EX_info.html# Come on out to the Riders' Dinner TOMORROW NIGHT! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I plan on being there. Jack Weiss From rsorens at comcast.net Wed Mar 31 00:05:51 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:05:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: I've been feeling lousy all week... And it wasn't theSliders. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <36237F38C8B1491DBC609B0FAAD871B1@Tekki> >...I doubt that getting dehydrated on that last ride (my first of the >season) could be solely responsible for this... But it didn't help. > >I will now carry two quarts of water with me and drink a pint every time I stop. Jack; It has long been backpacking wisdom to drink before you're thirsty. Always have something to drink when you stop. When doing any kind of LONG ride we carry our Camelback hydration systems. Ideally, in the ha, dry summer rides, ya wanna empty the Camelback per tankfull of gas. Some of the LDRiders/Iron Butt Rally folks carry 2 gallon jugs strapped to their passenger pegs with long hoses and bite valves to make sure they have enough. Rick From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 01:20:13 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:20:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: "Free" WiFi spots in Pennsylvania Message-ID: http://www.wififreespot.com/pa.html Delaware: http://www.wififreespot.com/de.html New Jersey: http://www.wififreespot.com/nj.html Most can probably see the pattern now if you are not in one of the more local states. Natcherally, there are the risks with any "free" service, but if you need a quick hit, and can do "safe computing" with the condoms handy yer OK... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 02:52:16 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:52:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: "Free" WiFi spots in Pennsylvania In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/30/10, Brian Curry wrote: > http://www.wififreespot.com/pa.html I learned from Mac-Pac'r Scott Fillman that his lovely wife, the proprietress of Churchill in Pottstown offers FREE WiFi at Churchill the Artisan Baker & Chocolatier. http://churchillinc.net/ http://churchillinc.net/shop.htm http://churchillinc.net/songwriter%20showcase.htm If you are in the area, it is a GOOD place to have a nosh. We had a breakfast and Mileage contest form gathering there a few years back. They opened for us. It was/is a GOOD FEED. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwdick at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 21:24:25 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:24:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Bull Flugtag anyone? In-Reply-To: <4BAF9FD1.9080205@ptd.net> References: <2028233324.3973361269738937174.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <8296f6de1003272041j39bd4438p47dd63143089ac2b@mail.gmail.com> <4BAF9FD1.9080205@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Chris wrote: > Well, I would volunteer as a pilot for whatever you guys would build, > except I am not riding any goat. > > Chris Jaccarino Me thinks you protest too much.You got a goat in that new garage? -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 14:42:32 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:42:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] This is what happens from eating Haggis -- Yes, Motocontent Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaMSXgB3PVA&feature=player_embedded -- BMW-Dick Psalm 109:8 From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 18:08:15 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:08:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Tailgating Solution? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: With a name like Colin Furze, what can you expect? I wonder whether his buddies call him "Hairy A-Hole." On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 1:23 PM, edde m wrote: > > Another way to create space between you and others? > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7528253/Flame-thrower-scooter-owner-arrested.html > > > > -- > edde m > 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), > 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) > Philadelphia, US > web: motoedde > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l -- BMW-Dick Psalm 109:8 From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 22:46:50 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:46:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Roddy The Tree Man Message-ID: Jack: Roddy stopped by my place just before heading over to log in some time in Leslieville. It took him longer to get his rope out of the truck than it did for him to toss it over a branch, scale the tree WITHOUT SPIKES, and trim off some branches. Then he cut up another 40-foot tree in the time it took me to walk in and out of the house. It's great to sit idly by watching someone who knows what he's doing do what he knows. Here are links to a couple of pix I shot of Roddy at work. http://picasaweb.google.com/BMWDick/MacPacersPix#5454188767514727858 http://picasaweb.google.com/BMWDick/MacPacersPix#5454188766473402034 -- BMW-Dick Psalm 109:8 From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Mar 29 23:54:11 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:54:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: 2003 FXSTB HD Night Train - $10500 (Downingtown) In-Reply-To: <20100329232628.04722F51D6@web48p.int.craigslist.org> References: <20100329232628.04722F51D6@web48p.int.craigslist.org> Message-ID: More on the Harley for sale ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:26 PM Subject: 2003 FXSTB HD Night Train - $10500 (Downingtown) To: bmwdick at gmail.com kdigreg at verizon.net has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. 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Risers Please call 610-620-4188 Location: Downingtown it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/1665915952.html ________________________________ this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/31mYjlGZnB0apFWbj5CbA02bk ________________________________ -- BMW-Dick Psalm 109:8 From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 23:50:34 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:50:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p53SDaHHXEk&feature=player_embedded# -- BMW-Dick Psalm 109:8 From bmwdick at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 03:07:56 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:07:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: "Free" WiFi spots in Pennsylvania In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > On 3/30/10, Brian Curry wrote: >> http://www.wififreespot.com/pa.html > > I learned from Mac-Pac'r Scott Fillman that his lovely wife, the > proprietress of Churchill in Pottstown offers FREE WiFi at Churchill > the Artisan Baker & Chocolatier. > > http://churchillinc.net/ > http://churchillinc.net/shop.htm > http://churchillinc.net/songwriter%20showcase.htm > > If you are in the area, it is a GOOD place to have a nosh. ?We had a > breakfast and Mileage contest form gathering there a few years back. > They opened for us. ?It was/is a GOOD FEED. > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ambassador BMW MOA ? | > Brian Curry ? ? ? ? ?| ? ? ?Is Getting Old, Getting Old? ------------- I agree, Brian. The food was great, and the pastries were especially yummy -- and non-fattening. We should go back unless Scott thinks we'd scare he regular customers away. Dick -- BMW-Dick Psalm 109:8 From rtill6 at aol.com Sun Mar 28 19:39:27 2010 From: rtill6 at aol.com (rtill6 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:39:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Health Care Reform Message-ID: <8CC9CC582E6EAC1-1FD4-1292F@webmail-d056.sysops.aol.com> All Subject: The other side of the Health Care Reform Dear Mr. President: During my shift in the Emergency Room last night, I had the pleasure of evaluating a patient whose smile revealed an expensive shiny gold tooth, whose body was adorned with a wide assortment of elaborate and costly tattoos, who wore a very expensive brand of tennis shoes and who chatted on a new cellular telephone equipped with a popular R&B ringtone. While glancing over her patient chart, I happened to notice that her payer status was listed as "Medicaid"! During my examination of her, the patient informed me that she smokes more than one costly pack of cigarettes every day and somehow still has money to buy pretzels and beer. And, you and our Congress expect me to pay for this woman's health care? I contend that our nation's "health care crisis" is not the result of a shortage of quality hospitals, doctors or nurses. Rather, it is the result of a "crisis of culture", a culture in which it is perfectly acceptable to spend money on luxuries and vices while refusing to take care of one's self or, heaven forbid, purchase health insurance. It is a culture based in the irresponsible credo that "I can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me". Once you fix this "culture crisis" that rewards irresponsibility and dependency, you'll be amazed at how quickly our nation's health care difficulties will disappear. Respectfully, STARNER JONES, MD If you agree...pass it on. Gordon From rtill6 at aol.com Sun Mar 28 23:58:48 2010 From: rtill6 at aol.com (rtill6 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:58:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Bull Flugtag anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8CC9CE9BE3849D8-1090-1613F@webmail-d082.sysops.aol.com> All I think it is unanimous. Chris gets the goat. Gordon -----Original Message----- From: Rick Sorensen To: 'Chris' ; 'Michael Evans' Cc: 'johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)' ; 'Mac' Sent: Sun, Mar 28, 2010 4:39 pm Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Red Bull Flugtag anyone? Chris says: >Well, I would volunteer as a pilot for whatever you guys would build, except I am not riding any goat. I think you left off the end of that sentence, Chris...."again". Rick _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From wateredg at interlog.com Wed Mar 31 03:47:24 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:47:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Health Care Reform -- A different perspective References: <8CC9CC582E6EAC1-1FD4-1292F@webmail-d056.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Hello all, From: > Subject: The other side of the Health Care Reform > > Dear Mr. President: > During my shift in the Emergency Room last night, I had the > pleasure of evaluating a patient whose smile revealed an expensive > shiny gold tooth, whose body was adorned with a wide assortment of > elaborate and costly tattoos, who wore a very expensive brand of > tennis shoes and who chatted on a new cellular telephone equipped with > a popular R&B ringtone. > While glancing over her patient chart, I happened to notice that her > payer status was listed as "Medicaid"! During my examination of her, > the patient informed me that she smokes more than one costly pack of > cigarettes every day and somehow still has money to buy pretzels and > beer. > And, you and our Congress expect me to pay for this woman's health > care? I contend that our nation's "health care crisis" is not the > result of a shortage of quality hospitals, doctors or nurses. Rather, > it is the result of a "crisis of culture", a culture in which it is > perfectly acceptable to spend money on luxuries and vices while > refusing to take care of one's self or, heaven forbid, purchase health > insurance. It is a culture based in the irresponsible credo that "I > can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care > of me". > Once you fix this "culture crisis" that rewards irresponsibility and > dependency, you'll be amazed at how quickly our nation's health care > difficulties will disappear. > Respectfully, > STARNER JONES, MD FYI, in original form, this was a letter to the editor of a newspaper: http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/starner.asp My question is one of "perspective." I ask, why is this person in the hospital? Is she there because a cage hit her while riding? If so, then her laundry list of "bad choices" has nothing to do with the scenario at hand, does it? It's really easy to lose sight of this by appointing ourselves as judges of "what should be," and when the story is presented in the spotlight of The Evils Of Public Health Care. But let us assume that this person is entering a hospital because of a liver ailment that was caused by excessive drinking (i.e., a "bad choice," for which she should so obviously be punished). What happens in a public health care system then? She gets a free liver transplant! Right? Well, actually no. Speaking only of what I know about Canada's (admittedly imperfect) health care system in Ontario specifically, she would likely be declined a liver transplant because she would be deemed to be a non-viable recipient. What we experience under a public health care system is VERY different than what the Private Medicare Lobby is peddling to you in the United States. I am by no means saying our public health care is perfect. Far from it. But I am strongly asserting that an extraordinarily inaccurate "bad" spin (i.e., misinformation) of public health care has been, and is still being presented to the United States' public. That said, I sincerely respect your right to believe whatever you want. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 03:53:08 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:53:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hey Mike Ormont, how is your Ark coming along? Message-ID: Or are you far enough North that you have not been pasted quite as bad as Mass and Conn? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From gary5410 at aol.com Wed Mar 31 04:02:54 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:02:54 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen nightmare has begun Message-ID: <8CC9E9E2C628DCF-1210-2BEB@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> I had contractor that needed some work and he came out to install the Ditra that goes down before the tile.......I was sick when I got home...awful job. I think (know) I'm going to have to rip it all up! Lots of air bubbles, wrinkles, highspots of thick mortar and appears to only be attached properly on about 20% of the floor! WTF!!!!!!!!!! :-( Anyone want to buy $800 worth of Ditra....Oh yea, it's still attached ....sort of! He said he used Ditra before and came recommended as a tile guy! Haven't talked to him as he was gone before I got home. Should have done it myself....damn! http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Other/Floor/11678888_6Rrr2#824018645_LRFbf Gary Christman kichen project gone sour! From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 04:22:23 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:22:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] For the hot pepper fans Message-ID: Per this article this stuff will "pep you up". http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/03/st_dangerous_hotsauce Website for the stuff. http://www.hotsauceworld.com/purecap.html (You might check the comments.) If you want some idea of what that relates to in "normal" hot peppers here is a scale: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoville_scale#List_of_Scoville_ratings All WS. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 04:25:04 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:25:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MMMMmmm Bacon!!!!! Message-ID: Very unique cooking method for bacon I have never seen before. http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2010/03/26/cooking-some-bacon-the-machine-gun-method/ Equipment and its operation might be twitchy in both getting it, and then finding somewhere to cook the bacon. I also suspect a very unique flavor combination. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wayne at 2zars.com Wed Mar 31 10:20:36 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 06:20:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] more artsy fartsy photography with OBMWC Message-ID: I don't like this one a much as the previous one, but I still like it. http://2zars.blogspot.com/2010/03/magnesium.html (WS) Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Mar 31 10:29:20 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 06:29:20 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Roddy The Tree Man Message-ID: <4890c.46714f8d.38e47e00@aol.com> In a message dated 3/30/2010 11:16:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bmwdick at gmail.com writes: Jack: Roddy stopped by my place just before heading over to log in some time in Leslieville. It took him longer to get his rope out of the truck than it did for him to toss it over a branch, scale the tree WITHOUT SPIKES, and trim off some branches. Then he cut up another 40-foot tree in the time it took me to walk in and out of the house. It's great to sit idly by watching someone who knows what he's doing do what he knows. Here are links to a couple of pix I shot of Roddy at work. http://picasaweb.google.com/BMWDick/MacPacersPix#5454188767514727858 http://picasaweb.google.com/BMWDick/MacPacersPix#5454188766473402034 -- BMW-Dick Psalm 109:8 _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l ========================================================================= Thank you for the kudos and pictures, Dick. I enjoyed the work. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100331/fa888141/attachment.html From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Mar 31 10:36:35 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 06:36:35 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Health Care Reform -- A different perspective Message-ID: <48bce.324adb26.38e47fb3@aol.com> In a message dated 3/30/2010 11:47:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wateredg at interlog.com writes: and is still being presented to the United States' public. That said, I sincerely respect your right to believe whatever you want. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS ================================== Thank you for that truth, Steve. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100331/2165abe0/attachment.html From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Mar 31 10:55:21 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:55:21 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen nightmare has begun In-Reply-To: <8CC9E9E2C628DCF-1210-2BEB@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9E9E2C628DCF-1210-2BEB@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <50318.68.163.51.104.1270032921.squirrel@68.163.51.104> > I had contractor that needed some work and he came out to install the > Ditra that goes down before the tile.......I was sick when I got > home...awful job. > Gary, That looks terrible. Nothing like the recommended method. http://www.schluter.com/5793.aspx Good luck getting some satisfaction. Ride Safe, Joe From mark at markdaviesmedia.com Wed Mar 31 11:34:57 2010 From: mark at markdaviesmedia.com (mark at markdaviesmedia.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 04:34:57 -0700 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Health Care Reform Message-ID: <20100331043457.1c31284161f9540beea4f710eb8f100a.d583c03f20.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Dear Mr. President: During my shift in the Emergency Room last night, I had the pleasure of evaluating a patient whose smile revealed an expensive shiny gold tooth... Once you fix this "culture crisis" that rewards irresponsibility and dependency, you'll be amazed at how quickly our nation's health care difficulties will disappear. THAT'S it. THAT'S the *real* problem with health care. It's those tattooed, R&B cell phone ringtone having, gold teeth welfare types. If only they weren't so shiftless and lazy health care would be a OK for us REAL Americans. Puh-LEAZE. Let's talk about oil. -M From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Wed Mar 31 11:52:32 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Health Care Reform In-Reply-To: <1680251671.5365441270036266045.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1457470367.5365841270036352790.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >Dear Mr. President: >During my shift in the Emergency Room last night, I had the >pleasure of evaluating a patient whose smile revealed an expensive >shiny gold tooth... The point that many miss is that these people described are a burden on the current system and you and I pay for them with higher premiums and hospital bills. They are in fact a huge burden and recieve services free of charge right now. The other problem caused is that they only use the Emergency room instead of regular preventative doctor visits. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From piechota at argolis.org Wed Mar 31 12:37:12 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:37:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Health Care Reform -- A different perspective In-Reply-To: References: <8CC9CC582E6EAC1-1FD4-1292F@webmail-d056.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BB341F8.5070000@argolis.org> Steve Makohin wrote: > What we experience under a public health care system is VERY different than > what the Private Medicare Lobby is peddling to you in the United States. I > am by no means saying our public health care is perfect. Far from it. But I > am strongly asserting that an extraordinarily inaccurate "bad" spin (i.e., > misinformation) of public health care has been, and is still being presented > to the United States' public. That said, I sincerely respect your right to > believe whatever you want. Thanks from me too for a little perspective on the Great White North. The other side of things is there are always free-loaders. There are folks that go to a free breakfast at a store with absolutely no intention of buying anything, ever. Those that buy something, use it once, and take it back. There are welfare leeches. The total incompetents at work that just do enough to get by but don't really add anything. It's just a fact of life. The question is: do those people represent the whole? I've lived in some pretty poor neighborhoods, and I'd guess that for every welfare free-loader there are 10 people who honestly need it. I'm just not comfortable saying screw those 10 people to get back at the one. Are folks really comfortable saying, "Sorry, even though you work two minimum-wage-type jobs you still don't get health care."? From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Wed Mar 31 12:42:39 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:42:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Health Care Reform -- A different perspective In-Reply-To: <4BB341F8.5070000@argolis.org> Message-ID: <8512722.5386421270039359481.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > Are folks really comfortable saying, "Sorry, >even though you work two minimum-wage-type jobs you still don't get >health care."? The sad, sad, reality Matt is that there are millions of people in this country so wrapped up in themselves that they are perfectly comfortable saying that. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From rogers.george at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 12:56:15 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:56:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] new racing seat Message-ID: <1f13c3621003310556s7641b2a6n6de3ea4d3fc218c1@mail.gmail.com> I don't think you have seen this. Old Tom might be interested. http://www.gizmag.com/chicane-saddle-moving-motorcycle-seat/14674/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=4c4f06f683-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email Best wishes, Rogers George Newark, DE http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http://serenitytravelnewark.com From jack.riepe at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 13:01:11 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:01:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Health Care Reform -- A different perspective In-Reply-To: <8512722.5386421270039359481.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <4BB341F8.5070000@argolis.org> <8512722.5386421270039359481.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I just had to interview an economist on the business outlook for 2011, and two minimum wage jobs might start to look rather enticing for people like myself. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 13:02:42 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:02:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] new racing seat In-Reply-To: <1f13c3621003310556s7641b2a6n6de3ea4d3fc218c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f13c3621003310556s7641b2a6n6de3ea4d3fc218c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Rogers: Who the hell is "Old Tom?" Man do you live dangerously. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From saylorspond at comcast.net Wed Mar 31 13:06:13 2010 From: saylorspond at comcast.net (saylorspond at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Health Care Reform -- A different perspective In-Reply-To: <8512722.5386421270039359481.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1298686595.8927251270040773863.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > Are folks really comfortable saying, "Sorry, >even though you work two minimum-wage-type jobs you still don't get >health care."? >The sad, sad, reality Matt is that there are millions of people in this country so wrapped up in themselves that >they are perfectly comfortable saying that. Remove personal responsibility from the equation and there is no reason to strive for a better life. The fact is, no one in the USA is denied treatment for emergency health care. Most minimum wage jobs are intended to be entry level and, the last time I researched this several years ago, are performed by students and teenagers. I am comfortable in saying that I do not have the money to pay for your medical treatment, since it is the truth! I am also comfortable saying that I will do everything I can to encourage and empower you to move upward in life. I will also help those in need with my time and money. And, I will vote for a system that encourages personal responsibility and success. The US Government is currently moving in the opposite direction (see the financial success of Social Security and Medicare). Past performance is, in this case, an indicator of future failure. My pithy contribution ($0.02 worth) :) Scott -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100331/a18d8f8e/attachment.html From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Wed Mar 31 13:15:10 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:15:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] new racing seat In-Reply-To: <1f13c3621003310556s7641b2a6n6de3ea4d3fc218c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <229184018.5404261270041310508.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >I don't think you have seen this. Old Tom might be interested. > >http://www.gizmag.com/chicane-saddle-moving-motorcycle-seat/14674/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=4c4f06f683-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email Looks interesting, but it does not look light, and it would add weight up high, things that a racer does not want. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Mar 31 14:28:16 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:28:16 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] new racing seat In-Reply-To: <1f13c3621003310556s7641b2a6n6de3ea4d3fc218c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f13c3621003310556s7641b2a6n6de3ea4d3fc218c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44324.12.181.211.35.1270045696.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > I don't think you have seen this. Old Tom might be interested. > > http://www.gizmag.com/chicane-saddle-moving-motorcycle-seat/14674/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=4c4f06f683-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email That is very cool. It would be a total disaster on a sidecar, but on a racing bike it could make things better. I would think it would take a racer a while to get used to it. In the end you could get faster/smoother transitions left to right. We will have to wait for the reviews. Ride Safe, Joe From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 31 15:03:19 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:03:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Burt Munro is Alive and Well Message-ID: <68DF363C14D24DA88894D881C949B4FC@dellfe483b726d> Burt Munro.......round two. http://lh4.ggpht.com/_uWn2G5Z_8rQ/S1_b2tEOgkI/AAAAAAAAAbk/6j3Eijri8so/s640/IMG_0981web.jpg From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 31 15:04:28 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:04:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Burt Munro....better photo Message-ID: http://lh6.ggpht.com/_uWn2G5Z_8rQ/S1_eczQ_R_I/AAAAAAAAAcA/UTkBOHjzGrE/s720/Promo%2Bfor%2BMotorcycle%2BRally%2B001.jpg From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com Wed Mar 31 15:13:18 2010 From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:13:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Burt Munro....better photo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So, what's the occasion? Is it running? Is he gonna run again? Any articles go with the snaps? todd -----Original Message----- From: Todd Trumbore Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:04 AM Subject: [MAC-PAC] Burt Munro....better photo http://lh6.ggpht.com/_uWn2G5Z_8rQ/S1_eczQ_R_I/AAAAAAAAAcA/UTkBOHjzGrE/s720/Promo%2Bfor%2BMotorcycle%2BRally%2B001.jpg From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 31 15:37:18 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:37:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rally Photos....very pleasing to view, hope you enjoy Message-ID: Here are some photos you are going to enjoy. Reviewing these photos should get you primed and pumped for Gassing Day this Saturday ! The weather is going to be ideal so...................no excuses, let ride ! There are probably a couple hundred photos all together. Some very interesting vintage as well as some current models. How many of those older bikes can you identify ? Would you happen to see your first motorbike in this collection ? This should bring a smile to your face.....it did for me. Enjoy. Todd http://picasaweb.google.com/centralcoastclassicmc/Rally2009# From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Mar 31 16:13:13 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:13:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Very well done ! What a Collection. Message-ID: <6BB21E6B01834D8F8ED0DC82B9415B9E@dellfe483b726d> This may just be my favorite of all......Which one is your favorite ? http://lh3.ggpht.com/_uWn2G5Z_8rQ/S1_YU-OUBlI/AAAAAAAAAMI/AMQmM5A6JEk/s640/IMG_0070.JPG From tc2wheel at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 16:43:25 2010 From: tc2wheel at gmail.com (T C) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Bull Flugtag anyone? In-Reply-To: <8CC9CE9BE3849D8-1090-1613F@webmail-d082.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9CE9BE3849D8-1090-1613F@webmail-d082.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I was going to bring up the idea of participating to the local bike co-op people, piles of bicycle parts available for experiment. I weight 145 lb., a decent pedaler, I volunteer for pilot. -- Theo Chao Royersford, PA Chances favor the prepared mind. Master your environment and you will survive just fine. From tpcutter at aol.com Wed Mar 31 17:23:13 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:23:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] new racing seat In-Reply-To: <1f13c3621003310556s7641b2a6n6de3ea4d3fc218c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f13c3621003310556s7641b2a6n6de3ea4d3fc218c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC9F0DF928D93D-1DCC-100E7@webmail-d006.sysops.aol.com> <> All nice ion concept, but that looks like a lot of hardware. A racing seat should weight about five ounces, no more. Any more and you take the seat off, and stick on a foam pad. Then you liberally dose the pad with talcum powder to attain good slide. And try to not fall off. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From tpcutter at aol.com Wed Mar 31 17:24:31 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:24:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] new racing seat In-Reply-To: References: <1f13c3621003310556s7641b2a6n6de3ea4d3fc218c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC9F0E288DAD86-1DCC-1011C@webmail-d006.sysops.aol.com> <> Nah, he just figures Delaware is out of range of the smaller calibers. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From tpcutter at aol.com Wed Mar 31 17:46:48 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:46:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Bull Flugtag anyone? In-Reply-To: References: <8CC9CE9BE3849D8-1090-1613F@webmail-d082.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CC9F1145E16D5B-1DCC-105B3@webmail-d006.sysops.aol.com> <> Would a man-powered trebuchet qualify as a flying machine? If we strap Chris and Theo together with some cardboard wings, I bet we could get 50 yards out of 'em. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From ephoet at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 17:54:04 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:54:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] This is what happens from eating Haggis -- Yes, Motocontent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Dick wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaMSXgB3PVA&feature=player_embedded > > -- > BMW-Dick > Psalm 109:8 > _______________________________________________ Some Reeviews of the Reevu www.reevu.com/ http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/reevu/ http://www.indiancarsbikes.in/auto-videos/reevu-mx1-rear-vision-helmet-bike-1675/ From chrisjac at ptd.net Wed Mar 31 18:13:59 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:13:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen nightmare has begun In-Reply-To: <8CC9E9E2C628DCF-1210-2BEB@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9E9E2C628DCF-1210-2BEB@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BB390E7.6000307@ptd.net> Gary Christman wrote: > I had contractor that needed some work and he came out to install the > Ditra that goes down before the tile.......I was sick when I got > home...awful job. > I think (know) I'm going to have to rip it all up! Lots of air bubbles, > wrinkles, highspots of thick mortar and appears to only be attached > properly on about 20% of the floor! WTF!!!!!!!!!! :-( Anyone want to > buy $800 worth of Ditra....Oh yea, it's still attached ....sort of! > He said he used Ditra before and came recommended as a tile guy! > Haven't talked to him as he was gone before I got home. > Should have done it myself....damn! > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Other/Floor/11678888_6Rrr2#824018645_LRFbf > > . > Am sorry to see what was done. I hope he wasnt paid. This is the exact reason why one should NEVER pay for services in advance....NEVER........ for contractors.. Besides the new Home Improvement Contractor Law passed last summer only allows contractors to obtain deposit money for items which are CUSTOM for a job. Any item which can be used on another job cannot be part of the deposit money. Any contractor that wants money up front other than for custom materials never works on my property. Gary, if he was a licensed contractor he should have a PAHIC number. Such will give you all his detaisl about who owns the business. Talk to the owner and either have them fix it, or refund the money, or report his actions. If you need asssitance with actions on what to do, give me a call or email me offlist. Chris Jacacrino From chrisjac at ptd.net Wed Mar 31 18:16:20 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:16:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Health Care Reform In-Reply-To: <1457470367.5365841270036352790.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1457470367.5365841270036352790.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4BB39174.9050203@ptd.net> johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: >> Dear Mr. President: >> During my shift in the Emergency Room last night, I had the >> pleasure of evaluating a patient whose smile revealed an expensive >> shiny gold tooth... >> > > > The point that many miss is that these people described are a burden on the current system and you and I pay for them with higher premiums and hospital bills. They are in fact a huge burden and recieve services free of charge right now. The other problem caused is that they only use the Emergency room instead of regular preventative doctor visits. > Health care should be like animal care.....leave your credit card on file to obtain services, make a cash deposit........or go elsewhere. It will stop the freeloaders in about one week. Chris Jaccarino From daviddenesowicz at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 18:49:50 2010 From: daviddenesowicz at gmail.com (David Denesowicz) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:49:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: 2003 FXSTB HD Night Train - $10500 (Downingtown) In-Reply-To: References: <20100329232628.04722F51D6@web48p.int.craigslist.org> Message-ID: <18764d421003311149i62d12de3yf851a34b02978287@mail.gmail.com> Percentage of Harleys that are "special editions" Anniversary every 5 years = 1 in 5, at least 20%. Of course they made 2003's for about 15 months. add in all the firefighter, police, Shriner, CVO SE's it must be a significant percentage of the total motorcycles produced. BMW needs to get on this track, if everyone saves the bikes from being ridden because they're "collectible" it has to make a big dent in exposure to warranty claims. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Dick wrote: > More on the Harley for sale > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: ? > Date: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:26 PM > Subject: 2003 FXSTB HD Night Train - $10500 (Downingtown) > To: bmwdick at gmail.com > > > kdigreg at verizon.net has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. > > Please see below for more information. > > Visit the posting at > http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/1665915952.html to contact the > person who posted this. > > ________________________________ > > 2003 FXSTB HD Night Train > > Date: 2010-03-28, 7:39PM > > 100th Anniversary Softtail > Collector Gold Key > 100th Anniversary Package > Real Dual Exhaust Python II Pipes > Quick Release Windshield > Quick Release Sissy Bar and Backrest > Quick Release Chrome Luggage Rack > New Rear Tire (3-24-10) > New Handle Bar Grips with 100th Anniversary End Caps > New Wiring Harness to Convert Turn Signals to Stop Lights > Just Serviced > Factory Drag Bars with 6in. Risers > Please call 610-620-4188 > > Location: Downingtown > it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests > > Original URL: http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/1665915952.html > > ________________________________ > > this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our > email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: > http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/31mYjlGZnB0apFWbj5CbA02bk > > ________________________________ > > > -- > BMW-Dick > Psalm 109:8 > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- David Denesowicz Box 212 Malvern, PA 19355 215-850-7061 daviddenesowicz at gmail.com '79 R100/7 "You have to go out, you don't have to come back" From ephoet at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 20:20:46 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:20:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen nightmare has begun In-Reply-To: <4BB390E7.6000307@ptd.net> References: <8CC9E9E2C628DCF-1210-2BEB@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> <4BB390E7.6000307@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Chris wrote: > Gary Christman wrote: >> I had contractor that needed some work and he came out to install the >> Ditra that goes down before the tile.......I was sick when I got >> home...awful job. > Gary, if he was a licensed contractor he should have a PAHIC number. > Such will give you all his detaisl about who owns the business. ? Talk > to the owner and either have them fix it, or refund the money, or report > his actions. > > If you need asssitance with actions on what to do, give me a call or > email me offlist. > > > Chris Jacacrino > _______________________________________________ \ Also could talk to Ditra, see if he was a qualified installer Schluter-Systems L.P. 194, Pleasant Ridge Road Plattsburgh, NY 12901-5841 Phone: 1-800-472-4588 Fax: 1-800-477-9783 Email: info at schluter.com Warranty info: http://www.schluter.com/5897.aspx Perhaps they may help you in your "discussions" with the installer.... From motoedde2 at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 21:21:11 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:21:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen nightmare has begun In-Reply-To: <8CC9E9E2C628DCF-1210-2BEB@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9E9E2C628DCF-1210-2BEB@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Gary Christman wrote: > I had contractor that needed some work and he came out to install the > Ditra that goes down before the tile.......I was sick when I got > home...awful job. > I think (know) I'm going to have to rip it all up! Lots of air bubbles, > wrinkles, highspots of thick mortar and appears to only be attached > properly on about 20% of the floor! WTF!!!!!!!!!! ?:-( Anyone want to > buy $800 worth of Ditra....Oh yea, it's still attached ....sort of! > He said he used Ditra before and came recommended as a tile guy! > Haven't talked to him as he was gone before I got home. > Should have done it myself....damn! > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Other/Floor/11678888_6Rrr2#824018645_LRFbf Sorry to see...and since I don't have experience with Ditra, I can't opine. If you end up having to redo it, you might consider a mortar embedded Durarock substrate. May be cheaper than another Ditra-do-over... http://www.durocktilemembrane.com/faq.aspx I've done several bathrooms and kitchens with this, and its worked well. Be careful though if you lay slate on top, as that may require different adhesive to bond well with the Durarock. HTH -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde