From reopropf at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 01:21:13 2010
From: reopropf at gmail.com (Peter Frechie)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 21:21:13 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] ride this afternoon
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilk7DgbvIuzL3mR_PP-1FiIq2S3T5xjvGgBkzau@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiliEg7Dp5b9R5pWBt5_Cm3fzuPliiDFVj2fpNQy@mail.gmail.com>
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Wonderfrul morning to ride.  Temp nice, no cars of meaning.

Marc G and I did a fun loop.

Start at Rt 23 at Conshohoc ken to Rt 320 to Goshen Rd to Rt 3 to 322
to 282 to 82 to 345 to 724  and back with a turn to 401 east and then
worked roads to Rt 29 working territory back to Valley Forge Park.

The R65LS is just plain FUN!

Peter




On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Roberts LeBoutillier
> <rdlebout at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Anyone not too busy to go for a ride. ?Maybe 4-6 or so
>> Rt 345, Rt 82 and the like.
>> Leaving at 3:30 from Exton
>>
>>
> Bobby,
>
> Sorry I could not join you for a ride today. Hope you rode on Rt.282
> along the ?East Branch Brandywine Creek; great tight twisties, a real
> challenge although when I do ride it (it's on the way to work) I am
> careful not to ride it too fast. Lots of cyclists, and blind drive
> ways. Have you ridden on it?
>
> Glad to hear your health is good and that procedure went well. Does
> this mean B-B-Q is OK ?for you now? Everything (almost everything) in
> moderation.
>
>
>
> --
> Rob Haut
> West Chester PA
> '05 Rockster
> '61 FC-170DRW
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>

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 01:50:12 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 21:50:12 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] This seems like something that edde could use
In-Reply-To: <4C039F91.23467.70CB59@localhost>
References: <AANLkTimjp-heHop_0C0ANvGOvWFo5qjYkfzq0CDr96ne@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C039F91.23467.70CB59@localhost>
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On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Joe Dille <joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us> wrote:
>
>
>> considering where he lives and where he "parks" his bike.
>>
>> http://www.neatorama.com/2010/05/28/scooter-armadillo-armor/
>>
>
> I like the one comment. ?"Quick to the Bat Scooter!"
>
> It would be great it would deploy just before the accident.
>
> Ride Safe,
>
> Joe


Joe, you have the ecomobile concept to the max.

DAno

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 01:52:42 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 21:52:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC wheel cleaner, and stent
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinaI6cYFutqhvF2sC7VfL58MtAcaXg50FCdD5nD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinaI6cYFutqhvF2sC7VfL58MtAcaXg50FCdD5nD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimChZMOc6udeNQVsT0ujvHN3m86Id63__j34AmF@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Roberts LeBoutillier
> <rdlebout at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Happy Sunday,
>> A few weeks ago a post was written about cleaning grunge off wheels. ?Sorry
>> if this is duplicate information because I did not read the 243 messages
>> about wheel cleaning. ?I use Never Dull and I do not remember reading the
>> can but it works on almost everything I tried it on. ?It cleans up wheels
>> that have gone months without being washed. ?I hope that helps someone.
>>
>> Sorry that I missed the Ride for the Cure. ?I had a stent put in the prior
>> Thursday and someone near and dear to me thought I shouldn't ride that day.
>> The doctor said not to drive for two days so that was Friday and Saturday so
>> Sunday I good to go. ?It is a good thing that I wasn't the one bike short of
>> the record.
>
> Thanks for Never Dull tip.
>
> I think most of us agree that it was a good call not to go for a
> high-stakes ride a couple of days after having your heart re-plumbed.
> At least one person in your household has good judgment.
>
> I missed the ride too but they succeeded without us.
>
> Sounds like all went well with surgery, congrats.
>
> --
> -- ---------------
> Doug Raymond

Dough,\\

Whatys a stent???

Dano

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 02:36:29 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 22:36:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT or not: Those "sink holes" in Great Valley PA
Message-ID: <AANLkTinQKKVkXw8x4w5Abh8FmOa88_q_X38TCxo5es2-@mail.gmail.com>

They ain't nothing....:

http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/31/dot-shot-sinkhole-in-guatemala-city/

High Rez image:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gobiernodeguatemala/4657053554/sizes/o/in/set-72157624035870825/

Coming down that stair well not paying attention the first step after
the landing is going to be a DOZY!!

Both WS.  Might be vertigo inducing.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 02:40:46 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 22:40:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] FREE WSBK at Miller Motorsports park in UT coverage
Message-ID: <AANLkTikBj2_EKjnKMwR2KzLVUuOGSrGTnio4Kbjs8Nx2@mail.gmail.com>

No, spoiler unless you understand Italian.

http://www.la7.tv/
(WS mostly)

Note that there appears to be an advert for "Il Duce" at the beginning
of the video or changes.  Maybe with what is going on in Greece there
is a yearning for him again.

If it went from NTSC HD to PAL that might explain some of the softness at times.

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From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 03:02:49 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 23:02:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC wheel cleaner, and stent
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimChZMOc6udeNQVsT0ujvHN3m86Id63__j34AmF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinaI6cYFutqhvF2sC7VfL58MtAcaXg50FCdD5nD@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimChZMOc6udeNQVsT0ujvHN3m86Id63__j34AmF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikQQGbk0N6aS6Dm_DeyVuqaTsMytG1aklwHsVrP@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:
....snip
>
> Whatys a stent???
>

A stent is a flexible insert that goes into one of the 3 heart
arteries to hold it open.  It looks like a piece of braided stainless
brakeline, and maybe that's what it is.

They are keeping a lot of people alive.  Some patients can just get
the artery expanded by a catheter-inserted balloon (angioplasty),
others additionally need the stent to be placed.

An anecdote told to me by German cardiologists: in the early days
stents were problematic because interacting with blood caused buildups
and more blockage to occur.  Then some bungling Italian doctors were
trying to extract the catheter to leave the stent in place, but it got
stuck so they jerked it back and forth many times before it finally
released and stayed.  By this time the stent had partially buried
itself in the artery wall.  It turned out this solved the problem
because most of the stent was no longer exposed to the blood.  Then
this became the new technique in Germany.

Our cardiologist in residence, Peter Frechie, could give you a much
better answer, but he shouldn't have to write about stuff like this
after work.


-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 04:21:06 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 00:21:06 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Not a good air day...
Message-ID: <AANLkTilLrbNtdOHRLNmlT8L4_jX1eEwRw6tj6B6O6aq6@mail.gmail.com>

Thought I'd pass along this bit of news...
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2010/05/31/quebec-forest-fires.html
... Although not as bad as Montreal, it wasn't a very nice day to be
out. Visibility here in the Adirondacks was reduced to less than a
mile at times.
Trying to do anything outside was sometimes breathtaking, literally.

From gary5410 at aol.com  Tue Jun  1 05:16:03 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 01:16:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fairing fixer + ......  Q Bond
Message-ID: <8CCCF60AA5F995F-1D6C-2080C@webmail-m045.sysops.aol.com>

I was hanging out with a friend this weekend and we had a few hours to 
kill before going to a picnic so he decided to fix his wife's car. He 
has a complete body shop in his van! Here are some pics of a plastic 
bumper part that he fixed in a few minutes with Q Bond. It's a 
combination super glue and a reactive powder. Really cool stuff, hard 
in 10 seconds! It works with many materials including metals. He cut a 
rubber hose and glued it together and you couldn't pull it apart....he 
said in the ads they say you can glue a cut v-belt together and it will 
get you to a repair shop??????
This may go in one of my cases when I travel ... $18 ...fixes anything.

Check it out here........

http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Other/Eric/12388389_L7gSV#885703817_gNs5N

....In the next few hours he proceeded to repair and paint all 4 
corners of his wife's car. I told him that evening that it was not 
smooth and didn't match! He then finish sanded it and blended it in 
with a buffer.........couldn't tell he worked on it...pretty cool!
He does this for dealers of new and used cars and has more work than he 
can do. Does all his work outside and works year round. Puts a tent 
over the car if it's raining.

Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure




From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Tue Jun  1 10:43:58 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 10:43:58 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC wheel cleaner, and stent
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikQQGbk0N6aS6Dm_DeyVuqaTsMytG1aklwHsVrP@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinaI6cYFutqhvF2sC7VfL58MtAcaXg50FCdD5nD@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimChZMOc6udeNQVsT0ujvHN3m86Id63__j34AmF@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikQQGbk0N6aS6Dm_DeyVuqaTsMytG1aklwHsVrP@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50917.68.163.54.156.1275389038.squirrel@68.163.54.156>

> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> ....snip
>>
>> Whatys a stent???
>>
>
> A stent is a flexible insert that goes into one of the 3 heart
> arteries to hold it open.  It looks like a piece of braided stainless
> brakeline, and maybe that's what it is.
>

Through my work I have had the chance to learn a bit about how stents are
made.  They are an amazing piece if engineering.  They are a small, thin
piece of metal tubing (I believe stainless, but I can't remember 100%). 
The tubing is very special as the wall cannot have any flaws in the
metallurgy.  The wall must also be very consistent (no thin spots).  This
tubing is then laser cut to make it look like lace so it is stretchy and
can be placed into the artery.

http://www.medgadget.com/archives/img/toothenamelstent.jpg

To make the special tubing they take a rod of metal the size and shape of
a broom stick.  They drill a hole in the center from end to end.  They
then draw the tubing down and down and down until the tubing is about the
size of ball point pen tubing.  This is then laser cut to remove the
unwanted parts of the wall.  Amazing.

Ride Safe,

Joe


From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com  Tue Jun  1 11:07:27 2010
From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 07:07:27 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Special Summer Breakfast - June 19th
In-Reply-To: <F59EF81CD5ED4E4E888B6CA02B4C38330245B74CAD@HVXMSP6.us.lmco.com>
References: <F59EF81CD5ED4E4E888B6CA02B4C383302436F847F@HVXMSP6.us.lmco.com>
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Message-ID: <F59EF81CD5ED4E4E888B6CA02B4C38330245EEB0C4@HVXMSP6.us.lmco.com>

About 3 weeks away now.  Two breakfast gatherings in the same weekend.  This one on Saturday and the regular monthly the next day on the 20th.

The Mac-Pac will hold another of the special Saturday breakfast gatherings on June 19th at the Joanna Furnace Historical site near Morgantown, PA.  We'll gather at 8:00am and enjoy the outstanding breakfast that the Hay Creek Valley Historical Association http://www.haycreek.org/ puts on.  Located three miles north of Morgantown on Route 10.   Turn at Furnace Road.  Its Father's Day weekend so bring the family.

June 19th is one of Joanna Furnace's "Operation Days" so they have numerous special events going on and they are planning preferred parking for motorcycles made 1985 and earlier.
 
"Car Cruise Breakfast Buffet:

Model T Car Games & Mechanical Technology exhibits.  Antique Motorcycle Club has been invited and venerable members of the infamous Mac Pac will be present.  There may be special parking for antique beemers, maybe 1985 and before (that'd be 25 yrs old, right?).  Not sure but keep your eyes open when you get there.

The Hay Creek Valley Historical Association will offer its hearty breakfast buffet with delicious homemade foods.   The menu usually includes: fresh country sausage, bacon,  scrapple, chipped cream beef, pancakes,  scrambled eggs, hash browns, fruit, baked oatmeal, toast, juice, coffee and tea.  Cost is $7.00 for adults and $3.50 for children ages 6 - 11.  Children under 6 are free.

Giant Flea Market: Spring has arrived and the Joanna Furnace Flea Market is once again open for business.   Visitors can shop for antiques, crafts, household items, tools, kids clothing, books, and much more in our ever-popular market.     Stands open at 7 am... so get here early to find that perfect bargain!"

Great breakfast and we could be eating "al fresco" if the weather cooperates.  See you there.

Todd byrum
Gilbertsville, PA


From wayne at 2zars.com  Tue Jun  1 12:02:26 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 08:02:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC wheel cleaner, and stent
In-Reply-To: <50917.68.163.54.156.1275389038.squirrel@68.163.54.156>
References: <AANLkTinaI6cYFutqhvF2sC7VfL58MtAcaXg50FCdD5nD@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimChZMOc6udeNQVsT0ujvHN3m86Id63__j34AmF@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikQQGbk0N6aS6Dm_DeyVuqaTsMytG1aklwHsVrP@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTinxbKJ3cnOecnmHf-i5BYLGS-dmXHj_1z9ADNLt@mail.gmail.com>

>
> Through my work I have had the chance to learn a bit about how stents are
> made. ?They are an amazing piece if engineering. ?They are a small, thin
> piece of metal tubing (I believe stainless, but I can't remember 100%).
> The tubing is very special as the wall cannot have any flaws in the
> metallurgy. ?The wall must also be very consistent (no thin spots). ?This
> tubing is then laser cut to make it look like lace so it is stretchy and
> can be placed into the artery.
>
> http://www.medgadget.com/archives/img/toothenamelstent.jpg
>
> To make the special tubing they take a rod of metal the size and shape of
> a broom stick. ?They drill a hole in the center from end to end. ?They
> then draw the tubing down and down and down until the tubing is about the
> size of ball point pen tubing. ?This is then laser cut to remove the
> unwanted parts of the wall. ?Amazing.
>

FM.  This video pretty much sums it up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IlHgbOWj4o


-- 
Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From dbcase at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 12:31:12 2010
From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 08:31:12 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fairing fixer + ...... Q Bond
In-Reply-To: <8CCCF60AA5F995F-1D6C-2080C@webmail-m045.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCCF60AA5F995F-1D6C-2080C@webmail-m045.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikv8cfNwBBYsm_SBjgqCc-ddflUe9ACnxXzuZjM@mail.gmail.com>

(some snippage)

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Gary Christman <gary5410 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> ...! Here are some pics of a plastic
> bumper part that he fixed in a few minutes with Q Bond. It's a
> combination super glue and a reactive powder. Really cool stuff, hard
> in 10 seconds! It works with many materials including metals. ...
...
> Check it out here........
>
> http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Other/Eric/12388389_L7gSV#885703817_gNs5N
>


Don't look, Tom!!!   He didn't clean the parts prior to gluing!  :)

DC

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 13:26:47 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:26:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] No start 85K100 - FI computer gone?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik9Npksh2Ey3TTjuUOmExNOc-VsHoTgJmTVygsV@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim-gPHyEBSEPx-TqGUvI30b88peKwiTz5kWoe-V@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/28/10, pj rose <itsabmw at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Been having some sporadic issues with my K. ?It was running fine but had a
>> ?weird anomaly just after startup it would die sometimes and then go blank.
>> ?No power anywhere.
>
> Which is not FI related.
>
> ?Turn off the key wiggle the FI computer wire and plug
>> ?and it would come back on. ?I looked at this "issue" the other night and
>> ?noticed that I had the FI cable zip tied to the positive battery cable and
>> ?the batt cable conector was loose.
>
> Having only a short distance between a hard anchor and something that
> is flex mounted is NOT GOOD. ?Something is going to break.
>
> Me, I let the FI cable "float from where it leaves the MWH. ?The
> stress and movement is WAY distributed. ?Plus it makes it a LOT easier
> to remove the brain when I am getting to the battery. ?Pull pin on the
> right, and extract to the left side and let it hang. ?(DO NOT wash the
> bike when it is like that. ?Water in the brain is not good.)
>
>> ?The bike turns over fine. ?I have reseated the FI Computer and wiggled the
>> ?wire ad nauseum. ?Nothing. ?I checked the plugs and they are dry. ?Fuel pump
>> ?runs and there is gas in the tank. ?It stumbles atfirst start attempt but
>> ?never runs. ?Any suggestions?
>
> Remove one of the injector connections ?Put a test light across it.
> Crank the engine and see if it blinks when the other three are
> injecting fuel.
>
> No blink not good.
>
> Then it is see if one pin is hot from 12V. ?If it is and not blinking
> then the FI brain is not grounding. :(:(
>
> Kinda easier than checking for sparks which also occur at the same
> time as the blinking.
>
> FI brain failures are rare. ?Not impossible, but rare.
>

pj, did you make any progress with this problem?
If not, could you describe the intermittent symptoms in more detail?

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From itsabmw at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 14:15:21 2010
From: itsabmw at gmail.com (pj rose)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:15:21 -0500
Subject: [MAC-PAC] No start 85K100 - FI computer gone?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik93Xsm0sWk7vW6Dc5TC-pWrzVl3JGmH42C4jSI@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim-gPHyEBSEPx-TqGUvI30b88peKwiTz5kWoe-V@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik9Npksh2Ey3TTjuUOmExNOc-VsHoTgJmTVygsV@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik93Xsm0sWk7vW6Dc5TC-pWrzVl3JGmH42C4jSI@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinVSU6QZGNH4OfBVehnCbFFC-iPNHr2Axww6fHR@mail.gmail.com>

>
>  Doug Raymond asked.      pj, did you make any progress with this problem?
> If not, could you describe the intermittent symptoms in more detail?
>

Hi Doug,

Yes problem solved on Sunday AM.  As is usually the case with this bike I
always have two problems that appear at the same time.  The initial issue
was that the bike would start and run and then if it died out it would be
out completely.  Like no lights, no nothing.  The clock (on my newly
refurbished, took six weeks and about 79 emails to Brian and two phone calls
to get right) speedometer would go blank and the bike was dead as a hammer.

When it would do this I would turn the key off and wiggle around and/or re
seat the FI Computer plug and turn the key back on.  Bike starts and runs
fine.  That got very irritating very quickly, and when I looked into the
problem I noticed that the FI Cable was zip tied to the positive battery
connection.  The wiggling had loosened up the positive cable and it would,
at times, disconnect the whole shootin match causing the deadness.
Tightened up the pos cable.  Didn't even bother to start it cause it was
fixed ... right??  *buzzer* - Wrong answer ... thank you for playing.

The next day, a Friday, you know ... the Friday before the three day
weekend?  The weekend I was going to traipse all over the wonderful ARkansas
back roads, I pull the bike out.  Close the garage door.  Ipod on, coat,
gloves, helmets, key in.  Push GO button and the starter works the fuel pump
works but no start and run.  Pull a spark plug after checking all the simple
stuff.  Plug totally dry.  After picking around at it for a little I sent an
email to MAC PAC.

You and Brian both called it on the no power thing not being related to the
FI Computer.  I had fiddle dicked last with the FI stuff though so I figured
I had torched something.  It's like the reverse midas touch.

Brian suggested looking for power to the FI system, so on Sunday AM at 6 I
checked voltage to the FI plug at the injector, nothing.  Checked voltage to
pin 9 on the FI Computer plug, nothing there either.  Brian had indicated
there was a five pin connector under the tank connecting the computer to the
Main Wiring Harness.  So off with the tank.

As soon as I got the tank off I saw my problem and was overjoyed.  The
connector was cracked and all the wiggling and pulling of the FI Cable had
separated the plug.  No juice to the entire cable.  I re-plugged the
connector and wrapped with black tape and then zip tied it together in a
"belt and suspenders" approach.  Replaced the tank, reconnected fuel hoses
and hit the key and the start button, NO START.

I stomped around the garage and thought about having a beer and setting
myself on fire, it was 8am.  Then I plopped down next to the bike and
noticed I hadn't plugged in the power to the tank.  It was a YAY, I'M
STUPID! moment.

Everything seems to work fine now ... but you didn't hear me say that.
(knocking on wood)  Thanks for the help Y'all.

pjr
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From chrisjac at ptd.net  Tue Jun  1 14:17:22 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 10:17:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Tiki bar
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilcmApdtRhS5R5SGBibXvqSDs0Y8BUpIuQa64I0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilcmApdtRhS5R5SGBibXvqSDs0Y8BUpIuQa64I0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C051672.9010702@ptd.net>

Dick wrote:
> Jane and I are dining at The Tiki Bar, Boyertown,  tomorrow, Tuesday,
> at 6:30pm. The forecast is sucky, but we're planning to eat and drink
> inside. Shoot me a note if you think you can make it, and I'll get a
> bigger table.
>
>   

Sorry, cant make it.   Tiki Bar is only for weekends up here.

Chris Jaccarino

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 14:28:04 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 10:28:04 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fairing fixer + ...... Q Bond
In-Reply-To: <8CCCF60AA5F995F-1D6C-2080C@webmail-m045.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCCF60AA5F995F-1D6C-2080C@webmail-m045.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil0vqEOYS-DHF49cybQFTuDh8EcFkSOTV2AkpJ4@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/1/10, Gary Christman <gary5410 at aol.com> wrote:
>  Check it out here........
>
>  http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Other/Eric/12388389_L7gSV#885703817_gNs5N

Source here:

http://www.qbond.net/pg_1/pg_1.htm

Using this search term in Google: q-bond adhesive found a number of
sale sites too.

Plus one guy that had it run down over painted parts and was working
hard to try to get it off.  It sounded like that is a BAD THING.
Think ahead on that as you process it.

>  Gary Christman
>  '07 R 1200 GS Adventure

Does this mean it is home and has a shaft that shafts?  And is "only"
being held back by "kitchen chores"???

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From jasiii at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  1 14:33:31 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 10:33:31 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Wheel cleaner...
Message-ID: <28865748.1275402812009.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


>Read the caution label on the bottel carefully.  The Eagel One product
>of the same type specifically says  not to use it on motorcycle
>wheels/tires.  It has an ingerdient thatr  makes the tires slippy.
>
Just do the wheels/rims.. not the tires.. 

Lots of products warn about the tires... cleaners do sometimes make the rubber more slippy.. 

On the tires, just wipe down with wet cloth if you want to.. else just clean the rims.. 

Just my $.000002 cents <grin>

Jim 

James Sterling III
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From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 14:55:11 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 10:55:11 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] No start 85K100 - FI computer gone?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinVSU6QZGNH4OfBVehnCbFFC-iPNHr2Axww6fHR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim-gPHyEBSEPx-TqGUvI30b88peKwiTz5kWoe-V@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik9Npksh2Ey3TTjuUOmExNOc-VsHoTgJmTVygsV@mail.gmail.com>
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	<AANLkTinVSU6QZGNH4OfBVehnCbFFC-iPNHr2Axww6fHR@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:15 AM, pj rose <itsabmw at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Doug Raymond asked.????? pj, did you make any progress with this problem?
>> If not, could you describe the intermittent symptoms in more detail?
>
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> Yes problem solved on Sunday AM.? As is usually the case with this bike I
> always have two problems that appear at the same time.? The initial issue
> was that the bike would start and run and then if it died out it would be
> out completely.? Like no lights, no nothing.? The clock (on my newly
> refurbished, took six weeks and about 79 emails to Brian and two phone calls
> to get right) speedometer would go blank and the bike was dead as a hammer.
>
> When it would do this I would turn the key off and wiggle around and/or re
> seat the FI Computer plug and turn the key back on.? Bike starts and runs
> fine.? That got very irritating very quickly, and when I looked into the
> problem I noticed that the FI Cable was zip tied to the positive battery
> connection.? The wiggling had loosened up the positive cable and it would,
> at times, disconnect the whole shootin match causing the deadness.
> Tightened up the pos cable.? Didn't even bother to start it cause it was
> fixed ... right??? *buzzer* - Wrong answer ... thank you for playing.
>
> The next day, a Friday, you know ... the Friday before the three day
> weekend?? The weekend I was going to traipse all over the wonderful ARkansas
> back roads, I pull the bike out.? Close the garage door.? Ipod on, coat,
> gloves, helmets, key in.? Push GO button and the starter works the fuel pump
> works but no start and run.? Pull a spark plug after checking all the simple
> stuff.? Plug totally dry.? After picking around at it for a little I sent an
> email to MAC PAC.
>
> You and Brian both called it on the no power thing not being related to the
> FI Computer.? I had fiddle dicked last with the FI stuff though so I figured
> I had torched something.? It's like the reverse midas touch.
>
> Brian suggested looking for power to the FI system, so on Sunday AM at 6 I
> checked voltage to the FI plug at the injector, nothing.? Checked voltage to
> pin 9 on the FI Computer plug, nothing there either.? Brian had indicated
> there was a five pin connector under the tank connecting the computer to the
> Main Wiring Harness.? So off with the tank.
>
> As soon as I got the tank off I saw my problem and was overjoyed.? The
> connector was cracked and all?the wiggling and pulling of the FI Cable had
> separated the plug.? No juice to the entire cable.? I re-plugged the
> connector and wrapped with black tape and then?zip tied it together in a
> "belt and suspenders" approach.? Replaced the tank, reconnected fuel hoses
> and hit the key and the start button, NO START.
>
> I stomped around the garage and thought about having a beer and setting
> myself on fire, it was 8am.? Then I plopped down next to the bike and
> noticed I hadn't plugged in the power to the tank.? It was a YAY, I'M
> STUPID!?moment.
>
> Everything seems to work fine now ... but you didn't hear me say that.
> (knocking on wood)? Thanks for the help Y'all.
>
> pjr

pj, thanks for update.

To summarize, you had a loose battery positive cable AND a loose
connector supplying 12V to the FI computer (which I am not familiar
with). Right?

Since simultaneous independent problems seem unlikely to me, what do
you think about the following scenario: First the battery pos cable is
slightly loose (it happens).  In your many attempts to wiggle the FI
computer connector (zip-tied to the battery pos cable) you
occasionally got things to work but in the meantime you pulled apart
the connector supplying 12V to the FI computer under the tank.
Possible?

When you say this connector was "cracked" do you mean that the 2
halves were unlatched and pulled apart but otherwise it was in good
condition?

Also, when you finally "plugged in power to the tank", I guess this
means the fuel pump connector in the tank harness, right?

Thanks again for the diagnosis.  We who have stomped around the garage
feel your pain.
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Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 15:00:17 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:00:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] No start 85K100 - FI computer gone?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTili0ft-QXyUcNRH29vKt6YqHsueAy192CB6iXhK@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim-gPHyEBSEPx-TqGUvI30b88peKwiTz5kWoe-V@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik9Npksh2Ey3TTjuUOmExNOc-VsHoTgJmTVygsV@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik93Xsm0sWk7vW6Dc5TC-pWrzVl3JGmH42C4jSI@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinVSU6QZGNH4OfBVehnCbFFC-iPNHr2Axww6fHR@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTili0ft-QXyUcNRH29vKt6YqHsueAy192CB6iXhK@mail.gmail.com>
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On 6/1/10, Doug Raymond <douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:15 AM, pj rose <itsabmw at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >> Doug Raymond asked.      pj, did you make any progress with this problem?

You too can TRIM Dough

> pj, thanks for update.
>
>  To summarize, you had a loose battery positive cable AND a loose
>  connector supplying 12V to the FI computer (which I am not familiar
>  with). Right?

There is a master connection that connects the FI wiring harness to
the MWH.  5 pins and EVERYTHING goes through it.

>  Since simultaneous independent problems seem unlikely to me, what do
>  you think about the following scenario: First the battery pos cable is
>  slightly loose (it happens).  In your many attempts to wiggle the FI
>  computer connector (zip-tied to the battery pos cable) you
>  occasionally got things to work but in the meantime you pulled apart
>  the connector supplying 12V to the FI computer under the tank.
>  Possible?

It does not matter.

>  Thanks again for the diagnosis.  We who have stomped around the garage
>  feel your pain.

Some of us ran diagnostics to see what was pointed to.  In this case
he had a FP that ran and no power to the FI system.  Since the FP
relay powers both, what is between it and the FI system.  The
connector.

I am sure there are similarities in programming.

Diagnostics if you understand what is going on tend to be more
productive than flailing or stomping.


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From stringsmith at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  1 15:04:30 2010
From: stringsmith at yahoo.com (Scott Fillman)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 08:04:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] square root rally
Message-ID: <647438.48547.qm@web113601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hello, is anyone from the mac-pac heading to this rally?

Scott Fillman
R1150GS

Churchill Artisan Baker & Chocolatier
137 High St.
Pottstown, Pa. 19464


      

From itsabmw at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 15:05:43 2010
From: itsabmw at gmail.com (pj rose)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 10:05:43 -0500
Subject: [MAC-PAC] No start 85K100 - FI computer gone?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTili0ft-QXyUcNRH29vKt6YqHsueAy192CB6iXhK@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim-gPHyEBSEPx-TqGUvI30b88peKwiTz5kWoe-V@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik9Npksh2Ey3TTjuUOmExNOc-VsHoTgJmTVygsV@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik93Xsm0sWk7vW6Dc5TC-pWrzVl3JGmH42C4jSI@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinVSU6QZGNH4OfBVehnCbFFC-iPNHr2Axww6fHR@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTili0ft-QXyUcNRH29vKt6YqHsueAy192CB6iXhK@mail.gmail.com>
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>
>
> pj, thanks for update.
>
> To summarize, you had a loose battery positive cable AND a loose
> connector supplying 12V to the FI computer (which I am not familiar
> with). Right


Roger that.  The battery cable was the initial problem.  The incorrect
"fix", wiggling the cable that goes from the computer to the injectors
loosened up the battery cable more.  As I was looking into that issue I must
have pulled and disconnected the five pin connector under the tank.


> Since simultaneous independent problems seem unlikely to me, what do
> you think about the following scenario: First the battery pos cable is
> slightly loose (it happens).  In your many attempts to wiggle the FI
> computer connector (zip-tied to the battery pos cable) you
> occasionally got things to work but in the meantime you pulled apart
> the connector supplying 12V to the FI computer under the tank.
> Possible?
>
That is what happend.  I disconnected the cable under the tank while
"fixing" the problem.


> When you say this connector was "cracked" do you mean that the 2
> halves were unlatched and pulled apart but otherwise it was in good
> condition?
>
One side of the connector housing was cracked at the plug and there was
plastic missing.


> Also, when you finally "plugged in power to the tank", I guess this
> means the fuel pump connector in the tank harness, right?
>
Correct.  85K tank plugs are RIGHT THERE in between the hoses ... you'd have
to be a real idiot to miss that one ... (raises hand.)



> Thanks again for the diagnosis.  We who have stomped around the garage
> feel your pain
>
It's nice to actually find a problem and fix it ... I think Brian is sick of
hearing from me though... :)
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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 15:19:35 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:19:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] No start 85K100 - FI computer gone?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikr5mIcM7AvVO1FUVrcs5D0XCN3vDY07-aIeyXy@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim-gPHyEBSEPx-TqGUvI30b88peKwiTz5kWoe-V@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik9Npksh2Ey3TTjuUOmExNOc-VsHoTgJmTVygsV@mail.gmail.com>
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On 6/1/10, pj rose <itsabmw at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Also, when you finally "plugged in power to the tank", I guess this
> > means the fuel pump connector in the tank harness, right?
> >
>
> Correct.  85K tank plugs are RIGHT THERE in between the hoses ... you'd have
> to be a real idiot to miss that one ... (raises hand.)

You will have to to be noticed in the crowd that has done it.

>
> > Thanks again for the diagnosis.  We who have stomped around the garage
> > feel your pain
> >
>
> It's nice to actually find a problem and fix it ... I think Brian is sick of
> hearing from me though... :)

Hey, it was not a problem here...  Now there...  PJ is good at
following directions now though.  Plus he has obtained diagnostic
equipment that makes it easier or useful.

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From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 15:21:04 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:21:04 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] No start 85K100 - FI computer gone?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil8RnOvaUq5IVs9C1s0IC4R1Gw21GKpQ2uJnAj2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim-gPHyEBSEPx-TqGUvI30b88peKwiTz5kWoe-V@mail.gmail.com>
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	<AANLkTik93Xsm0sWk7vW6Dc5TC-pWrzVl3JGmH42C4jSI@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
...snip
> I am sure there are similarities in programming.
>
> Diagnostics if you understand what is going on tend to be more
> productive than flailing or stomping.
>

Oh! I thought it was stomp, then diagnose.  Thanks for straightening that out.
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From Gary5410 at aol.com  Tue Jun  1 15:22:22 2010
From: Gary5410 at aol.com (Gary5410 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:22:22 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fairing fixer + ...... Q Bond
Message-ID: <27a3d.5482cdc9.39367fae@aol.com>

Yes- they ended up replacing the whole swing arm and shaft.
It was out of warranty..............but only cost me $135. :-)
Kitchen chores are on the front burner....riding on the back.....gonna have 
 to make up the miles!
Gary

In a message dated 6/1/2010 10:28:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight  Time, 
bmwbrian at gmail.com writes:

>  Gary Christman
>   '07 R 1200 GS Adventure

Does this mean it is home and has a shaft that  shafts?  And is "only"
being held back by "kitchen chores"???

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 15:28:46 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:28:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Racing was a bit different way back when.
Message-ID: <AANLkTilUhfeUlHyFSfiwlg0c1Nz5olgOi9YBrlfjHgmr@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/4413/2010-catalina-island-grand-prix-wvideo

The video's are very cool.  Pick up the details and you can see that
things were WAY different then.  The video's chronicle the Yamaha
effort in the race.  LAX was a LOT different then.  The planes had big
rotating things on the wings.  No jetways either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDfgtCm4WKQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZFOfKgd3_g

They could have used some parking assistance from Case and Co.
Protective gear was a bit different then.  Spectating was a lot more
"free form".  I suspect that Marge has visual memories of those type
days.

All sites WS.  You will need audio for the video's for some details.



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From willweir at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 15:30:15 2010
From: willweir at gmail.com (Will Weir)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:30:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Was that Corey and Kimi in Chalfont?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik78ha0uQEDVychtei8luDS2jdXSTAaROfwU3RZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <aj5806pksp0djl0ub4au9286ovr878p962@4ax.com>
	<AANLkTik78ha0uQEDVychtei8luDS2jdXSTAaROfwU3RZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil4Jve0asA9tDpz016JFSSTX14bun091Sq4KeP2@mail.gmail.com>

Kimi,

I grew up right near route 10.  In fact, my high school (South
Kortright Central) is right on route 10. We lived in Hobart, which is
a tiny little place located between Delhi and Stamford.

Lots of good riding roads over that way.  I took Dicky B. on some of
them when we did our tour to Vermont and back.

Will

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Kimi Bush <kimi.bush at gmail.com> wrote:

> We decided to re-trace a northbound route that we attempted 4 years
> ago. ?During the first go-around there was extensive flood damage in
> NY, which caused considerable problems for finding accommodations and
> enjoying the scenery. ?This time it was smoothing-sailing up beautiful
> Rt. 10 through the Catskills and into the lowest portion of Adirondak
> park, where we called it a night around 6pm on Sunday with 300 miles
> on the trip. ?We liked the ride so much, that we turned around and did
> the exact reverse route home today.

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 15:30:49 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:30:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] I do hope that his girlfriend is not _learning_ to ride
	on this
Message-ID: <AANLkTinZ7HG8xKVgqXBULXsK9KFzk7xah6_sDtolpOh8@mail.gmail.com>

http://motorcyclepictureoftheday.blogspot.com/2010/05/sweet-norton.html
(WS)

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From reopropf at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 15:35:46 2010
From: reopropf at gmail.com (Peter Frechie)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:35:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] square root rally
In-Reply-To: <647438.48547.qm@web113601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <647438.48547.qm@web113601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimyPZtIpiMuiGxbwLE0voAonYFvbd4HHxuwnzJz@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure about rally, BUT, would love to have another group visit to the bakery.

Peter

On Tuesday, June 1, 2010, Scott Fillman <stringsmith at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello, is anyone from the mac-pac heading to this rally?
>
> Scott Fillman
> R1150GS
>
> Churchill Artisan Baker & Chocolatier
> 137 High St.
> Pottstown, Pa. 19464
>
>
>
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From jasiii at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  1 15:53:15 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:53:15 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] No start 85K100 - FI computer gone?
Message-ID: <10314965.1275407596286.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
>...snip
>> I am sure there are similarities in programming.
>>
>> Diagnostics if you understand what is going on tend to be more
>> productive than flailing or stomping.
>>
>Oh! I thought it was stomp, then diagnose.  Thanks for straightening that out.
>-- 
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>Doug Raymond

it is in reality, cry, curse, stomp, flail, then diagnose; finally fix

Jim 

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From crocov502 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  1 16:32:23 2010
From: crocov502 at yahoo.com (Arla Hile)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:32:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Racing was a bit different way back when.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilUhfeUlHyFSfiwlg0c1Nz5olgOi9YBrlfjHgmr@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilUhfeUlHyFSfiwlg0c1Nz5olgOi9YBrlfjHgmr@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <17627.78991.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



From: Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com>

http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/4413/2010-catalina-island-grand-prix-wvideo

The video's are very cool.  snip



Sweet. Look at the leaders bikes - Zundapp, Puch, Maico!  *sigh* Now the best you can do on Catalina is to rent a bicycle or a golf cart, no new gas-burning vehicles can be brought to the island (a couple people still have theirs, but they have been almost completely phased out now), and there are a couple of tour buses. It does make the place pretty peaceful, though. :)

Arla



      

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 16:41:03 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 12:41:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: snipping the BOP riser
Message-ID: <AANLkTilTEA0q_cat1naJKffS54Z9IP9IZAjoezyu9baI@mail.gmail.com>

In the live feed from the BOP they are now snipping off the main
riser, with the world's largest diagonal cutters( 18ftx9ftx 40tons?).
http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

They are cutting it in a more or less horizontal section, looks like
about 200 ft from the BOP.  This is preliminary to making the
precision cut right at the top of the BOP later this week.

The hydraulic jaws are either closing very slowly or they have gotten stuck.


-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From stringsmith at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  1 16:47:32 2010
From: stringsmith at yahoo.com (Scott Fillman)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:47:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] square root rally
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimyPZtIpiMuiGxbwLE0voAonYFvbd4HHxuwnzJz@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <540141.30573.qm@web113604.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


Ya'll are welcome anytime! :)

I'm warming up for a trip below the Mason Dixon.

My best, Scott


--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Peter Frechie <reopropf at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Peter Frechie <reopropf at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] square root rally

> Not sure about rally, BUT, would love
> to have another group visit to the bakery.
> 
> Peter
> 
> On Tuesday, June 1, 2010, Scott Fillman <stringsmith at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Hello, is anyone from the mac-pac heading to this
> rally?
> >
> > Scott Fillman
> > R1150GS
> >
> > Churchill Artisan Baker & Chocolatier
> > 137 High St.
> > Pottstown, Pa. 19464




      

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 17:34:33 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 13:34:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: snipping the BOP riser
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilTEA0q_cat1naJKffS54Z9IP9IZAjoezyu9baI@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilTEA0q_cat1naJKffS54Z9IP9IZAjoezyu9baI@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinGthRSBqkTAFrIwwW3RUD3Ay_8ufdbRgw4skLy@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> In the live feed from the BOP they are now snipping off the main
> riser, with the world's largest diagonal cutters( 18ftx9ftx 40tons?).
> http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html
>
> They are cutting it in a more or less horizontal section, looks like
> about 200 ft from the BOP. ?This is preliminary to making the
> precision cut right at the top of the BOP later this week.
>
> The hydraulic jaws are either closing very slowly or they have gotten stuck.
>

The cutters are failing.
After three mighty crunches on the 22" dia well casing all they have
been able to do is squish it a little, then the cutters stall.

I coulda told them not to buy from Harbor Freight.

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From 321design at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 17:35:09 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 13:35:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fairing fixer + ...... Q Bond
In-Reply-To: <8CCCF60AA5F995F-1D6C-2080C@webmail-m045.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCCF60AA5F995F-1D6C-2080C@webmail-m045.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinsK6fKrfTuVpn6pHfnHhFYvb6CUSmHu2Xvf4am@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Gary Christman <gary5410 at aol.com> wrote:
> I was hanging out with a friend this weekend and we had a few hours to
> kill before going to a picnic so he decided to fix his wife's car. He
> has a complete body shop in his van! Here are some pics of a plastic
> bumper part that he fixed in a few minutes with Q Bond. It's a
> combination super glue and a reactive powder. Really cool stuff, hard
> in 10 seconds! It works with many materials including metals. He cut a
> rubber hose and glued it together and you couldn't pull it apart....he
> said in the ads they say you can glue a cut v-belt together and it will
> get you to a repair shop??????
> This may go in one of my cases when I travel ... $18 ...fixes anything.
>

THE Q Bond looks like Cyanoacrylate and I would guess a metallic
powder. We use the stuff for repairing broken prototype models at
work. But we also have an accelerator that when sprayed on the glue,
instantly sets it. If we have a gap to fill, we first fill it with
baking soda then drip on the Cyanoacrylate and it instantly hardens. I
used it this morning to do a repair with fiber glass cloth. cut the
cloth, apply to part, drip on the glue (medium viscosity, we have thin
and thick too) the zap it with the accelerator. Sand and paint. Great
fast repair. No elasticity so flexing may break bond. You can buy by
the pint at hobby shops - don't forget the accelerator.

-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From 321design at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 17:43:50 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 13:43:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: snipping the BOP riser
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGthRSBqkTAFrIwwW3RUD3Ay_8ufdbRgw4skLy@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilTEA0q_cat1naJKffS54Z9IP9IZAjoezyu9baI@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinGthRSBqkTAFrIwwW3RUD3Ay_8ufdbRgw4skLy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilwvfG7chZAGWaaXKOoiJXXj7buIdZKzm-E5xMA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Doug Raymond
> <douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
>> In the live feed from the BOP they are now snipping off the main
>> riser, with the world's largest diagonal cutters( 18ftx9ftx 40tons?).
>> http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html
>>
>> They are cutting it in a more or less horizontal section, looks like
>> about 200 ft from the BOP. ?This is preliminary to making the
>> precision cut right at the top of the BOP later this week.
>>
>> The hydraulic jaws are either closing very slowly or they have gotten stuck.
>>
>
> The cutters are failing.
> After three mighty crunches on the 22" dia well casing all they have
> been able to do is squish it a little, then the cutters stall.
>
> I coulda told them not to buy from Harbor Freight.
>


Good one Doug.

Didn't they try cutting that kind of pipe set up on the surface first
to see if it would work?



-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 18:05:11 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 14:05:11 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: snipping the BOP riser
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilwvfG7chZAGWaaXKOoiJXXj7buIdZKzm-E5xMA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilTEA0q_cat1naJKffS54Z9IP9IZAjoezyu9baI@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinGthRSBqkTAFrIwwW3RUD3Ay_8ufdbRgw4skLy@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilwvfG7chZAGWaaXKOoiJXXj7buIdZKzm-E5xMA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikQsGt3wVKxMQiAWO8j5sIEYZRn2MhOP56XkzJ_@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> wrote:
...snip
>
> Didn't they try cutting that kind of pipe set up on the surface first
> to see if it would work?
>

Well, they only had 42 days to try that.

Oops, now they are retracting the cutters, upwards.  At least they're
still under warranty.

The last crunch seemed to show a lot of oil spewing out suddenly,
oops.  Then the video flipped to another view that showed no oil
coming out.  Hmm.  It sorta looked like they quit cutting when they
saw that new oil leak, and they're showing a screen saver, nice
bubbles, soothing.

Maybe all those engineers are stomping and flailing around the control
room instead of coolly assessing the situation.  Guys, diagnose first.

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 18:13:05 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 14:13:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: snipping the BOP riser
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGthRSBqkTAFrIwwW3RUD3Ay_8ufdbRgw4skLy@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilTEA0q_cat1naJKffS54Z9IP9IZAjoezyu9baI@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinGthRSBqkTAFrIwwW3RUD3Ay_8ufdbRgw4skLy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimpNwGYIds3j8q0crG4mJWhL7AH44HOoZNzqb7x@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/1/10, Doug Raymond <douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Doug Raymond
>  <douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > In the live feed from the BOP they are now snipping off the main
>  > riser, with the world's largest diagonal cutters( 18ftx9ftx 40tons?).
>  > http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

Nada there right now, but it is a live feed.

> The cutters are failing.
>  After three mighty crunches on the 22" dia well casing all they have
>  been able to do is squish it a little, then the cutters stall.

The well casing is some kinda HIGH strength steel.  I noted the
"control conduits" going down the side.

Trying for "sufficient" force that far away is "interesting".  I don't
think it is geared jaws.  Maybe hydraulics, but I would not expect
hydraulics from the surface.

The jaws look like stuff that I have seen used before.  Amazing the
amount of force they can put on stuff.

Far better to "try" on the stuff laying around before you really are
working over the "real thing".

The final cut is going to be by wire saw I read.  You don't want a
couple hundred feet of pipe over the cutting wire.  Pinching just like
with a chain saw issue.

They need to "cut to short" and then wire saw.

I suspect they expect a flow increase after the first "big cut" and
after that there is time pressure.

Rather like dealing with issues in space, but the response time is a
lot shorter and it is "here" which is why the response time is not in
terms of minutes or more.



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From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 18:18:41 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 14:18:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: snipping the BOP riser
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikQsGt3wVKxMQiAWO8j5sIEYZRn2MhOP56XkzJ_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilTEA0q_cat1naJKffS54Z9IP9IZAjoezyu9baI@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinGthRSBqkTAFrIwwW3RUD3Ay_8ufdbRgw4skLy@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilwvfG7chZAGWaaXKOoiJXXj7buIdZKzm-E5xMA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikQsGt3wVKxMQiAWO8j5sIEYZRn2MhOP56XkzJ_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim9CFudh259dpH7FF6ERMIGG245FL3-OAlPsrQh@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
> Maybe all those engineers are stomping and flailing around the control
> room instead of coolly assessing the situation. ?Guys, diagnose first.

Doug..you should know better...BP prefers testing in real world situations;)

All kidding aside...I think the density and strength of the oil
gushing upwards inside the riser(at the depths of a mile down) are
stronger than at shallower depths.  This makes the operation of any
sort of shearing/cutting tool tough....I wonder if the engineers
accounted for this.  THat is...imagine trying to cut plastic water
bottle that's frozen compared to one that is at room temperature with
a shearing tool.

Anyways....BP is just as busy trying to swindle some of the locals...
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20003978-503544.html




-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From motorrader at verizon.net  Tue Jun  1 18:25:15 2010
From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 14:25:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] GWR Charity/Record Ride.. Video, Postings,
	Blogs & News Articles
Message-ID: <C037B08361404FC3969EBE598EB6BD90@dellfe483b726d>


Some interesting postings, blogs, newsletters, news articles and a very well 
done video that I hope you enjoy viewing.
Thanks to all contributors and participants.

Regards,
Todd

http://www.pottstownmercury.com/articles/2010/05/05/life/doc4be179af99157548872959.txt

http://jackriepe.blogspot.com/2010/04/trying-to-break-guiness-book-record.html

http://www.sport-touring.net/forums/index.php?topic=52519.msg1215753;topicseen

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/bmw-r1100s-r1200s-tech-forum/540434-guiness-world-record-mcc.html

http://www.newswedenbmwriders.org/May2010.pdf

http://thereporteronline.com/articles/2010/05/01/news/srv0000008159578.txt

http://www.thereporteronline.com/articles/2010/05/29/news/srv0000008244067.txt

http://classicvelocity.squarespace.com/broadcast-central/2010/5/2/record-wreckers.html


From jasiii at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  1 18:46:07 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 14:46:07 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Quintessentially Philadelphian: MAC-PAC CHEESESTEAK
	RUN
In-Reply-To: <E3A6707DE03949F5859134DAF0D3042F@Tekki>
Message-ID: <C82ACDAF.41A8%jasiii@earthlink.net>


> Vito's - 582 Shoemaker Rd King of Prussia
> Jem - 2931 Swede Rd Norristown
> Dalessandro's Steaks 600 Wendover St Phila
> Jim's Steaks 4th & South St Phila
> Ishkabibble's 4th & South St Phila
> Tony Luke's 39 W Oregon Ave Phila

> Route sheets will be available (gps files for those so inclined) in case we
> separated.
> 
> Let's not 'wind it up' too much.....the best quote to EVER come out of the
> Mac-Pac was coined for the 1st Cheesesteak Run by our own Tom Cutter: "You
> guys could complicate oatmeal"...we're trying - see above!
> 
> Rick Sorensen
> 
I am so much in for this ...  I have enough husband points/dollars to have
the day for me (grin)

Oh yes...  Drooling all over my keyboard.. And NO, I do not have permission
from my cardiologist but sometimes a guy just needs to be a guy...

Jim 



From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 18:58:35 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 14:58:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: snipping the BOP riser
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimpNwGYIds3j8q0crG4mJWhL7AH44HOoZNzqb7x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilTEA0q_cat1naJKffS54Z9IP9IZAjoezyu9baI@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinGthRSBqkTAFrIwwW3RUD3Ay_8ufdbRgw4skLy@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimpNwGYIds3j8q0crG4mJWhL7AH44HOoZNzqb7x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimcxDZGS5HUZOiiISLEjRuwQU_vWJI6QMzeZm6E@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues:

I head the cutting device got stuck, and that they were looking for
something with which to lubricate it.



-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 19:32:11 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:32:11 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The Biggest Oil spill
Message-ID: <AANLkTikILvX3MwOTtd3IRW-aR44ghm_WOax6Bsfc42go@mail.gmail.com>

So, far the BP spill is not in the league of Ixtoc.  Interesting
discussion of real life effects and might get some rethinking the
actions being taken cause "something has GOT to be done."

http://news.discovery.com/earth/gulf-oil-spill-ixtoc.html
(WS)

Oh, and even Ixtoc is not the largest.  That was an acute INTENTIONAL
spill courtesy of Saddam.

Numbers are used in math and math is hard.  "Speaking LOUDLY and in
ANQUISHED EMOTIVE terms" is so much easier.

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From rayreeves4 at juno.com  Tue Jun  1 19:50:31 2010
From: rayreeves4 at juno.com (Yar Seveer)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 19:50:31 GMT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sunday Brunch May 30th from 12-4 PM
Message-ID: <20100601.155031.29435.0@webmail02.vgs.untd.com>

I'm charged with perhaps the simplest task from my brunch & that is to name all the MAC-PAC who attended.
Jim & Anita Sterling
Bill Zane
Eric Duc Dude H.  (It's hard enough saying your last name let alone spelling it.)  ;)

Thanks to Jim & Anita Sterling for arriving early & all their help setting up.  Apparently that blimp wasn't after you after all.  
It was good to see you again Jim & to meet Anita.  She is a lovely lady with a great personality & must be pretty special to put up with you.  ;)

Bill Zane is always a pleasure & is now a staple at my parties.  All my friends know him by name.  But I never get to have enough down time to talk with him.
When every one had left it was great to catch up a bit with Duc & expound on the mysteries of life, motorcycle gear, inventory management, love, heartbreak, gun use, future preventive measures to keep would be suitors of his daughter in line.  ;)

Don't worry, I'll do this again.  Hopefully soon too.  I'm up for doing another food event at my place in June if anyone is game.  Maybe a Saturday or Sunday.  Any ideas or suggestions are welcomed although not promised to be put into effect.
A summer solstice party would be great, since there would be plenty of daylight to keep it going till late.  Like the 19th of June.  Just a thought.

At the very least I am planning another Fall Freedom Festival party Sat Sept 25th.  It might not be a bad day to do a ride & shoot too.  So mark your calendars early.  This time I'm giving plenty of notice.  Ok, too much notice...

Yar Seveer
K75S 93'
K75S 90' RIP
Nighthawk 450 86' RIP

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From bmwrebel at dejazzd.com  Tue Jun  1 21:37:55 2010
From: bmwrebel at dejazzd.com (bmwrebel at dejazzd.com)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 16:37:55 -0500
Subject: [MAC-PAC] square root rally
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimyPZtIpiMuiGxbwLE0voAonYFvbd4HHxuwnzJz@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100601173755.XEAL8.78616.root@pamxwww02-z01>

Sam & I will be there. R1200R & K75S. See you; Rebel
---- Peter Frechie <reopropf at gmail.com> wrote: 
> Not sure about rally, BUT, would love to have another group visit to the bakery.
> 
> Peter
> 
> On Tuesday, June 1, 2010, Scott Fillman <stringsmith at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hello, is anyone from the mac-pac heading to this rally?
> >
> > Scott Fillman
> > R1150GS
> >
> > Churchill Artisan Baker & Chocolatier
> > 137 High St.
> > Pottstown, Pa. 19464
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mac-pac-l mailing list
> > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Mac-pac-l mailing list
> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l


From corey.lyba at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 22:19:16 2010
From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 18:19:16 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
Message-ID: <AANLkTikbIW7Z3_R1aLUQUN9SauWw_sRNHUhq1y75lskX@mail.gmail.com>

Has any one upgraded to HID's? I'm looking to do it and want to know
what the best option is. 2005 1200GS.

Thanks,
Corey

From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun  1 22:23:12 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:23:12 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Not a good air day...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilLrbNtdOHRLNmlT8L4_jX1eEwRw6tj6B6O6aq6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilLrbNtdOHRLNmlT8L4_jX1eEwRw6tj6B6O6aq6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCCFF0284A7A7E-1CA4-17D1@webmail-d063.sysops.aol.com>


<<Thought I'd pass along this bit of 
news...http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2010/05/31/quebec-forest-f
ires.html... Although not as bad as Montreal, it wasn't a very nice day 
to beout. Visibility here in the Adirondacks was reduced to less than 
amile at times.Trying to do anything outside was sometimes 
breathtaking, literally.>>

I was in the Connecticut River Valley in White River Junction, VT 
yesterday. The smoke laid in the river valley like fog all day. Had the 
same nasty smell as a house fire.

Today it rained very heavily all up the St. Lawrence Valley, so that 
may have helped them in their efforts to contain the blaze.

I rode in and out of rain all the way home. Fun. (not.)


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???


From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun  1 22:25:06 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:25:06 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fairing fixer + ......  Q Bond
In-Reply-To: <8CCCF60AA5F995F-1D6C-2080C@webmail-m045.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCCF60AA5F995F-1D6C-2080C@webmail-m045.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CCCFF06BC9B3F9-1CA4-1815@webmail-d063.sysops.aol.com>

<<....In the next few hours he proceeded to repair and paint all 4
corners of his wife's car.>>

Probably'd be cheaper to teach her how to drive...

:)

--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com
<<
??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???

From Ducdude at verizon.net  Tue Jun  1 22:36:43 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:36:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] The Russian solution to an out-of-control well.
References: <AANLkTinNGOaYDLxRWxlDBftW-5uRKZvl1a904G6CVVUz@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86C4DB2DE2F44069A45EE9AC30085AAD@heilveil5e3fdd>

Ahhh now that is one for the tree huggers..

Duc
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dick" <bmwdick at gmail.com


> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpPNQoTlacU&feature=player_embedded#!
> 
> -- 
> BMW-Dick


From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun  1 22:56:48 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:56:48 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: snipping the BOP riser
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGthRSBqkTAFrIwwW3RUD3Ay_8ufdbRgw4skLy@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilTEA0q_cat1naJKffS54Z9IP9IZAjoezyu9baI@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinGthRSBqkTAFrIwwW3RUD3Ay_8ufdbRgw4skLy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCCFF4D9798C5C-1CA4-1CF5@webmail-d063.sysops.aol.com>


<<The cutters are failing.After three mighty crunches on the 22" dia 
well casing all they havebeen able to do is squish it a little, then 
the cutters stall.I coulda told them not to buy from Harbor Freight.>>

Sure, just blame the Cutters!


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???

From bergman at panix.com  Tue Jun  1 23:08:20 2010
From: bergman at panix.com (Mark Bergman)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 19:08:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikbIW7Z3_R1aLUQUN9SauWw_sRNHUhq1y75lskX@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikbIW7Z3_R1aLUQUN9SauWw_sRNHUhq1y75lskX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100601190820.1d7d3a12@mirchi>

The pithy ruminations from Corey Lyba <corey.lyba at gmail.com> on "[MAC-PAC] HID lights" were:

=> Has any one upgraded to HID's? I'm looking to do it and want to know

Yes, in 1999. Loved it ever since. Lower wattage + higher lumen output + longer bulb life* = win, win win!

Some things to consider:

	conversion kits (from H4 to HID) require something to either move the lamp or block some of the light. A traditional
	bulb has multiple filaments in different locations, corresponding to the focal points in the headlight assembly for the
	high-beam and the low-beam. An HID lamp is an arc--a single point source of light. Getting correct alignment may require
	positioning the HID lamp with a shim or adapter, or modifying your headlight assembly. [I say "may" a lot, since I'm sure
	that HID lamps and kits have changed in 11 years, so these may not be issues. "May" not.]
 
	Most HID kits are NOT switchable from highbeam/lowbeam. In my case, I chose to leave the HID headlamp on all the time, with
	the lamp positioned (and shielded) to act only as a low-beam. I supplement that with a couple of PIAA driving lights for
	use as high beams. Or to blister the paint on the car ahead of me.

	I'd strongly urge you to do an installation that allows for a tool-free conversion back to the stock bulb. This way you can
	find a replacement bulb at Wallyworld when the 50KV ignitor box in the HID kit goes south. Or something. In my case, I use the
	stock headlight switch and socket by plugging a male H4 plug into the socket. That plug runs to a relay, enabling me to power
	the driving lights directly from the battery (not imposing a heavy draw on the stock wiring), but triggering them with the
	stock switch. The power to the HID assembly (ignitor, lamp socket, etc.) comes directly from the battery (switched from another
	relay to only go on when the ignition is on). This way, changing bulbs in case of failure or inspection is as simple as removing the
	male H4 plug (used to trigger the driving light relay) from the stock headlight socket, removing the HID lamp, inserting an H4
	lamp, and plugging the stock socket into the H4 lamp. Of course, it's only "easy" if you've got 3 hands and are double-jointed like
	ET, but it's possible to do on the side of the road, at night, without loosing too much flesh from the back of your hands.


I'd be glad to show you mine. My lamp setup, that is. No need to show me yours.


Mark

	* Well, it should be longer bulb (lamp, actually) life. I broke an HID lamp in 2004 while doing ~15 (?) of dirt/fire road in Oregon. 
	  The map showed a nice twisty road that followed a river, then climbed via a lot of hairpin turns to a ridge. It didn't indicate
	  dirt from pavement. It was fun...but the vibration broke the $100 lamp.

=> what the best option is. 2005 1200GS.
=> 
=> Thanks,
=> Corey
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rec.motorcycles.stagehands.pet-bird-owners.pinballers.unix-supporters
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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 23:17:44 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 19:17:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: If you have a CWP be careful where you carry...
Message-ID: <AANLkTikvPe12Q7ELes52SZvmFFBWTfeUO7K5Nq-7MyRa@mail.gmail.com>

Some ADs are more traumatic than others...

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/95276669.html
(WS Picture is bogus and appealing to 2nd Amendment opposers)

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From Doug at pencader.com  Tue Jun  1 23:21:27 2010
From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 19:21:27 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikbIW7Z3_R1aLUQUN9SauWw_sRNHUhq1y75lskX@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikbIW7Z3_R1aLUQUN9SauWw_sRNHUhq1y75lskX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005901cb01e1$2ae437a0$80aca6e0$@com>

Corey wrote;

>>> snips

> Has any one upgraded to HID's? I'm looking to do it and want to know
> what the best option is. 2005 1200GS.

>>> end

Corey,

I think both Gerry Cavanaugh and Jack Riepe, Director of Technical
Obfuscation, have upgraded to HIDs within the past year or so.

Doug
'01 1150 GSP
Bear, DE


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 23:24:34 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 19:24:34 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Your chance to get THE Bond car...
Message-ID: <AANLkTinXPQ1QOkMmM52CYmNpoTM_vGeqoz4wKIm7LAqf@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6503RY20100601

"(Reuters Life!) - James Bond's 1964 Aston Martin DB5, dubbed by auto
auctioneers RM Auctions on Tuesday as the "world's most famous car,"
will go under the hammer in London in October and is expected to fetch
over $5 million."

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 23:35:43 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 19:35:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Maybe cell phone use is not that bad...
Message-ID: <AANLkTim2LmW49JyV7z8tCzndkzzolhH9CjAuajIKeUJF@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/06/driving-distraction-survey/
(WS, but disturbing.)

"According to Jabra, which makes phone headsets, 15 percent of people
surveyed said they ?have performed sex or other sexual acts? while
driving. There?s always the possibility people are claiming they?re
getting freaky in traffic to sound cool, but the survey found many
drivers are doing more than driving while commuting."

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 23:37:11 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 19:37:11 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Why not to EVAH fix someone in the family's
	computer!!!
Message-ID: <AANLkTimWC3yc8nTpRBNwOGn42g-PnTVxagAefDYaZwhY@mail.gmail.com>

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/computers
(WS)

I am SURE that there are others here who can add additional horror stories.

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From gary5410 at aol.com  Tue Jun  1 23:46:03 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 19:46:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikbIW7Z3_R1aLUQUN9SauWw_sRNHUhq1y75lskX@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikbIW7Z3_R1aLUQUN9SauWw_sRNHUhq1y75lskX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCCFFBBB563E88-3B18-3182@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>

This is what I did.......
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288538&highlight=conversion
Gary Christman
'07 R1200 GS Adventure


-----Original Message-----
From: Corey Lyba <corey.lyba at gmail.com>
To: MAC PAC List <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
Sent: Tue, Jun 1, 2010 6:19 pm
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights


Has any one upgraded to HID's? I'm looking to do it and want to know
what the best option is. 2005 1200GS.

Thanks,
Corey
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From wayne at 2zars.com  Wed Jun  2 00:39:07 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 20:39:07 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] GWR Charity/Record Ride.. Video, Postings,
	Blogs & News Articles
In-Reply-To: <C037B08361404FC3969EBE598EB6BD90@dellfe483b726d>
References: <C037B08361404FC3969EBE598EB6BD90@dellfe483b726d>
Message-ID: <ru9b06lf8tbgckpgimsjnlggd809upj7jt@4ax.com>

>
>Some interesting postings, blogs, newsletters, news articles and a very well 
>done video that I hope you enjoy viewing.
>Thanks to all contributors and participants.
>
>Regards,
>Todd

I added one link and posted it on the new site :-)  


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Wed Jun  2 00:40:00 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 00:40:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Not a good air day...
In-Reply-To: <8CCCFF0284A7A7E-1CA4-17D1@webmail-d063.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1892696361.422581275439200838.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>



>Today it rained very heavily all up the St. Lawrence Valley, so that 
>may have helped them in their efforts to contain the blaze. 
> 
>I rode in and out of rain all the way home. Fun. (not.) 


I just read an excellent book on Forest Fires. Called "The Big Burn" it covers Teddy Roosevelt, Gifford Pinchot and the creation of the National Forest system, and the huge 1910 blaze that took out an area the size of Conn. Good read. Some forest are made to burn, and need to burn. Problem is that we live in them. 

John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From wayne at 2zars.com  Wed Jun  2 00:40:44 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 20:40:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] GWR Charity/Record Ride.. Video, Postings,
	Blogs & News Articles
In-Reply-To: <C037B08361404FC3969EBE598EB6BD90@dellfe483b726d>
References: <C037B08361404FC3969EBE598EB6BD90@dellfe483b726d>
Message-ID: <s2ab06pq8e6qiovqv0oerds1uqb64ojm7g@4ax.com>


>
>Some interesting postings, blogs, newsletters, news articles and a very well 
>done video that I hope you enjoy viewing.
>Thanks to all contributors and participants.
>
>Regards,
>Todd

Damn, hit send too soon.

The suggestion for making this a posting on the site came from Dick.
Thanks!!


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun  2 00:47:41 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 20:47:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:  External Hard Drives
Message-ID: <4C05AA2D.6070601@ptd.net>

Am almost afraid to ask,  but any opinions on what brands to buy and 
what brands to stay away from?   I probably need about 500 GB storage.  
Also, does it do me any good to get a "network drive" unit (to plug into 
router) even though my router is used simply as a physical firewall for 
my cable modem and not really for a network?

Thanks

Chris Jaccarino

From 321design at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 00:56:24 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 20:56:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] GWR Charity/Record Ride.. Video, Postings,
	Blogs & News 	Articles
In-Reply-To: <C037B08361404FC3969EBE598EB6BD90@dellfe483b726d>
References: <C037B08361404FC3969EBE598EB6BD90@dellfe483b726d>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinsIDGwOXKlQSrLinVToYhjsJguDBvqlL0vflNa@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Todd Trumbore <motorrader at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Some interesting postings, blogs, newsletters, news articles and a very well
> done video that I hope you enjoy viewing.
> Thanks to all contributors and participants.
>


You guys did a good thing there; looks like it was a lot of fun. I was
really sorry I could not attend. I was in Russia at the time on a trip
planned long ago. I'll make it to a breakfast / dinner / ride one of
these days.
-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From wayne at 2zars.com  Wed Jun  2 01:45:44 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 21:45:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:  External Hard Drives
In-Reply-To: <4C05AA2D.6070601@ptd.net>
References: <4C05AA2D.6070601@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <f0db06holr134jn8j2u9mj130m8ettdujo@4ax.com>



>Am almost afraid to ask,  but any opinions on what brands to buy and 
>what brands to stay away from?   I probably need about 500 GB storage.  
>Also, does it do me any good to get a "network drive" unit (to plug into 
>router) even though my router is used simply as a physical firewall for 
>my cable modem and not really for a network?


Chris

I have network storage so all the machines on my network can use it
for backup.  I use a drobo.  $$$.  I think you can get equivalent
technology cheaper.  They just came out with a new, lower cost model
(Drobo FS).  Still ain't cheap.

http://drobo.com/

Mine is 2 parts.  A 4 bay drive storage unit (Drobo) and a network box
(Drobo Share).  The network box can handle two drive bay storage
boxes, so if I buy the 2nd bay, I can have a total of 8 drives.  

It uses a type of RAID technology.  I have a 1T drive, a 250G, and a
360G drives in it and I have a slot open for another.  I can remove
one of the drives and the system automatically adapts.  I can swap a
drive for another drive and it automatically adapts.  I can add
another drive and it adapts.  No configuration :-)

It works with all flavors of Windoze and Mac.  I'm not sure about
Linux - probably.


Western Digital 500G and 1T had a bad reputation.  I think their
problems have been fixed.  

We're starting evals of 1T and 2T WD and Segate eSATA drives later
this month.  I'll definitely let folks know if we find any issues.  



Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 01:51:30 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 21:51:30 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Not a good air day...
In-Reply-To: <1892696361.422581275439200838.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <8CCCFF0284A7A7E-1CA4-17D1@webmail-d063.sysops.aol.com>
	<1892696361.422581275439200838.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin57UxuOJeBC8-HWIbiF39DtUjEVljdrFcvUude@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/1/10, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)
<JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net> wrote:

> I just read an excellent book on Forest Fires. Called "The Big Burn" it covers Teddy Roosevelt, Gifford Pinchot and the creation of the National Forest system, and the huge 1910 blaze that took out an area the size of Conn. Good read. Some forest are made to burn, and need to burn. Problem is that we live in them.

>From memory, in some areas of the Poconos the soils REALLY SUCK.  They
logged the oak forests for the bark for the tannin in the bark.  What
did they do with the rest of the tree?  They left it there.

HUGE fires resulted that well and truly "burnt" the soil.  What grew
there afterwards did not have a lot to work with growing.

Hold it.  Maybe not "man made" from this link:
http://www.continentalconservation.us/Roger%20Latham/Roger%20Latham%20publications_files/Latham%20%26%20al.%201996%20BTBC.pdf
(WS, yes that link does work.  The author is a blithering idiot,
thinks everyone use Internet Exploder and knows damn little about
files and naming conventions on the Web.)

But fire still has a LOT to do with the condition of the soils apparenly.

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From jasiii at earthlink.net  Wed Jun  2 02:11:49 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:11:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:  External Hard Drives
In-Reply-To: <4C05AA2D.6070601@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <C82B3625.41C2%jasiii@earthlink.net>

> Am almost afraid to ask,  but any opinions on what brands to buy and
> what brands to stay away from?   I probably need about 500 GB storage.
> Also, does it do me any good to get a "network drive" unit (to plug into
> router) even though my router is used simply as a physical firewall for
> my cable modem and not really for a network?
> 
> Chris Jaccarino
Just my $.0002.. 

Western Digital had problems in the past.. They have re-engineered and seem
to be good now
Seagate.. OK 
LaCie.. Good service usually work well

The network drives are great IF you have multiple computers on your
network... Anita and I share one.. She has two computers and I have too many
(grin)
If you only have one system it is not worthwhile

If you shop around you should find a 500 GB for less then

Newegg.com has over 130 different 500 GB drives ranging from $60 to $700...
If you do a sort of Best Rating you can find disks from $150 down to $60

Some of the disks are for carrying around.. They are more rugged ..

LaCie also has some good drives and their support is good..

Just remember to do backups of all.. (grin)

Hope this helps

Jim 
-- 
Ride Safe
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'96 R1100RS Red of course
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From mrmevans at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 02:18:00 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 22:18:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: External Hard Drives
In-Reply-To: <C82B3625.41C2%jasiii@earthlink.net>
References: <4C05AA2D.6070601@ptd.net>
	<C82B3625.41C2%jasiii@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik0b-gF1X_hpgaInLK33_beKCL4VmVvpybgD61_@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, James A. Sterling <jasiii at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Am almost afraid to ask, ?but any opinions on what brands to buy and
>> what brands to stay away from? ? I probably need about 500 GB storage.
>> Also, does it do me any good to get a "network drive" unit (to plug into
>> router) even though my router is used simply as a physical firewall for
>> my cable modem and not really for a network?
>>
>> Chris Jaccarino
> Just my $.0002..
>

I've used quite a few different brands - I've never been tied to one
make for my uses.

Western Digital - I have had a few of these in place for business
applications over the past 3-5 years and have had a few go bad so I
can vouch for what others have said about WD.

I have had a cheap iOmega drive backing up my home computer for
several years without issue.

I also have a Maxtor drive backing up my work computer - that too has
been running for a few years without issue.

I've always bought when I found good deals at Staples, or online at
Buy.com or others.

For my uses I at home and my business office I have never had the need
for a network drive or for hot-swap capabilities.

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 02:42:20 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 22:42:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: They are doing something different in the Gulf now
Message-ID: <AANLkTilI5WNUVSoiiLtmgJYPRoWXdOvcX9H95SU31ghY@mail.gmail.com>

The live feed that Doug gave:
http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

Since the Cutters were not working, they might be using saws or the
diamond wire cutters.

Apparatus that might be something clamped onto the riser and
'something" is moving down there.

Thought some more about wire cutter.  Since you have to get the wire
around the riser and then joined circular and circulated that might
have been a bit tough 5000' from the operator.  A saw running on a
track might be the ticket.

Oh, and apparently one of the relief wells is about 7000 feet below
the sea floor and the other about 3000 feet.

That from here:
http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=2012968&contentId=7062526

All WS.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 02:49:07 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 22:49:07 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] A Missed Photo Op at WSBK
Message-ID: <AANLkTimzs3fItuVlawp7x8YCp6rGAjgCx-4oSogbc9YE@mail.gmail.com>

Stolen from another list.  No spoiler here.

So I'm walking from behind the garages toward my seat in the Erda
stands for WSBK race #2, when I found myself presented with the
following...

* A golf cart.
* The golf cart is coming across the lawn toward me.
* Sideways.
* The "go" pedal apparently mashed to the floor, grass is flying
 out from under the back wheels.
* The passenger is a terrified team mechanic.
* The driver has a smile from ear to ear. His last name is...
* Xaus.

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From rsorens at comcast.net  Wed Jun  2 02:52:39 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 22:52:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cheese steak Run
Message-ID: <9F1B1C50FC264CF3B3C5B231FAB1A819@Tekki>

All right; who's going.....I know it's only Tuesday, but Saturday rolls
around real fast, so it is helpful to know.



Me
Matt Piechota
Jim Sterling
Elia Gianopulis
Rick Cavaliere
Jack Weiss (?)
Corey Lyba
Kimi Bush(?)
Scott Miller(?)




Rick Sorensen

R1150GS - Pseudo Adventure
"TEKKI" - 'iron knight'
R1150GS
"KANKU III" - 'to view the sky'

--------------------------------------------
"Politicians are like diapers.
They both need changing often and for the same reason."
Mark Twain


From piechota at argolis.org  Wed Jun  2 02:53:36 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:53:36 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikbIW7Z3_R1aLUQUN9SauWw_sRNHUhq1y75lskX@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikbIW7Z3_R1aLUQUN9SauWw_sRNHUhq1y75lskX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C05C7B0.8010702@argolis.org>

Corey Lyba wrote:
> Has any one upgraded to HID's? I'm looking to do it and want to know
> what the best option is. 2005 1200GS.

I know Gerry C. has.

I've looked at them for my bike, but haven't pulled the trigger.  From 
what I hear, I may not have the best results since I have a rather 
low-tech reflector and lens.  I've even thought about replacing the 
entire headlight bucket, but haven't gotten that far.

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Wed Jun  2 03:01:29 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 23:01:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] A Missed Photo Op at WSBK
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimzs3fItuVlawp7x8YCp6rGAjgCx-4oSogbc9YE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C059149.20977.3A266C3@localhost>



> Stolen from another list.  No spoiler here.
> 
> So I'm walking from behind the garages toward my seat in the Erda
> stands for WSBK race #2, when I found myself presented with the
> following...
> 
> * A golf cart.
> * The golf cart is coming across the lawn toward me.
> * Sideways.
> * The "go" pedal apparently mashed to the floor, grass is flying
>  out from under the back wheels.
> * The passenger is a terrified team mechanic.
> * The driver has a smile from ear to ear. His last name is...
> * Xaus.
> 

Ziggy, the quarter midget engine builder, has a worked golf cart that 
he uses as a calling card at big races.  It has a high performance 
Briggs V-twin.  Lots of torque.  He says you can do NASCAR-style 
victory doughnuts all day long.  Great fun.

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From piechota at argolis.org  Wed Jun  2 03:02:54 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 23:02:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Mac
Message-ID: <4C05C9DE.10303@argolis.org>

Just a heads up: even running a marginally secure computer you still 
have to be smart about things.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/01/mac_spyware/
(WS, Computers)

From gary5410 at aol.com  Wed Jun  2 03:06:58 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 23:06:58 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] matching license plates
Message-ID: <8CCD017CC3DDC08-3B18-4ABF@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>

Ken and I now have matching license plates!

http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Other-moto-stuff/XPLORgaryNken/886918984_X3kyf-L.jpg

Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure

From piechota at argolis.org  Wed Jun  2 03:10:19 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 23:10:19 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] A Missed Photo Op at WSBK
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimzs3fItuVlawp7x8YCp6rGAjgCx-4oSogbc9YE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimzs3fItuVlawp7x8YCp6rGAjgCx-4oSogbc9YE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C05CB9B.3060708@argolis.org>

Brian Curry wrote:
> Stolen from another list.  No spoiler here.
> 
> So I'm walking from behind the garages toward my seat in the Erda
> stands for WSBK race #2, when I found myself presented with the
> following...
> 
> * A golf cart.
> * The golf cart is coming across the lawn toward me.
> * Sideways.
> * The "go" pedal apparently mashed to the floor, grass is flying
>  out from under the back wheels.
> * The passenger is a terrified team mechanic.
> * The driver has a smile from ear to ear. His last name is...
> * Xaus.
> 

Cool.  He was riding well this weekend.

From piechota at argolis.org  Wed Jun  2 03:25:33 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 23:25:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:  External Hard Drives
In-Reply-To: <4C05AA2D.6070601@ptd.net>
References: <4C05AA2D.6070601@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <4C05CF2D.9040909@argolis.org>

Chris wrote:
> Am almost afraid to ask,  but any opinions on what brands to buy and 
> what brands to stay away from?   I probably need about 500 GB storage.  
> Also, does it do me any good to get a "network drive" unit (to plug into 
> router) even though my router is used simply as a physical firewall for 
> my cable modem and not really for a network?

As a counter point, there's once big disadvantage to NAS (network 
attached storage).  If the controller in the NAS box goes tits-up, 
you're pretty much hosed.  You *might* be able to strip the disk out and 
read it in a computer, but I certainly wouldn't bet on it.  I don't know 
if I'd run one without doing backups somewhere else too.

I do my backups to a USB/eSATA 'toaster' and a bare SATA disk.  There's 
nothing special to it (it just plugs and plays (doesn't even require a 
driver install) and shows up as a disk (after formatting). Bare disks 
are cheaper to buy per GB/TB.  It initially costs roughly the same as 
buying a 'normal' external disk, but after that the next disk can reuse 
the dock and be cheaper.

This is the one I have, but there's a Rosewill version that's a bit cheaper.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817392022

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 03:55:05 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 23:55:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikbIW7Z3_R1aLUQUN9SauWw_sRNHUhq1y75lskX@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikbIW7Z3_R1aLUQUN9SauWw_sRNHUhq1y75lskX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinX3x4PptZS9LDn9oUFaMYvUXQqRSYajJU8Thv4@mail.gmail.com>

Derar Corey:

I took the most expensive route possible. I bought a set of PIAA
self-contained HID lights, about $595 at Hermy's, and mounted them on
the crash frame. (Self-contained as there is no ballast.) The units
came with a fused wiring harness. Mounting brackets from PIAA were $35
extra. The lights are controlled from an OEM dash switch. They draw
less juice than the MotoLights I have on the brake calipers, but are
much brighter. I ride around with all my lights on, and burn holes in
buildings. There is a nice LED indicated switch attached to the wiring
harness should you not have the dash option.

I wanted plug and play, install without bullshit. I rode back from
Jersey City in the dark last fall, and some asshole pulled infront of
me on the NJ Turnpike. Since he was an asshole, he executed this
maneuver with about 15 feet to spare, at 70mph. The PIA HID lights
x-rayed the back of his head and projected it onto his windshield. He
decided to get out of my way.

These lights cannot be flicked on and off. They take about 15-20
seconds to come up to 6000? Kelvin.

Gary Christman used another brand, that were half the pice, and
virtually identical to mine, minus the wiring harness. I bet you can
cobble one together for less than $300. Signal Dynamics offers the
iStar HID light, which only comes in brushed aluminum for $323


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 04:07:40 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 00:07:40 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinX3x4PptZS9LDn9oUFaMYvUXQqRSYajJU8Thv4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikbIW7Z3_R1aLUQUN9SauWw_sRNHUhq1y75lskX@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinX3x4PptZS9LDn9oUFaMYvUXQqRSYajJU8Thv4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikuWO8JA9alOlQ8W-6jLpTPVi7LtxYcQMTFYaR9@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/1/10, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:

>  the crash frame. (Self-contained as there is no ballast.) The units

There is a ballast.  It is in the shell.

>  extra. The lights are controlled from an OEM dash switch. They draw
>  less juice than the MotoLights I have on the brake calipers, but are

Once they have started.  The starting current is HUGE.  That is why a
relay should be used.  Ask Gerry Cavanaugh, if you want confirmation
of that.

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From corey.lyba at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 11:00:07 2010
From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 07:00:07 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] matching license plates
In-Reply-To: <8CCD017CC3DDC08-3B18-4ABF@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCD017CC3DDC08-3B18-4ABF@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimOcmEI2cSWI-pBzau4EzQouDgo_WWv1FwYVWIm@mail.gmail.com>

Wow! Somebody really screwed up on that one.

From piechota at argolis.org  Wed Jun  2 12:16:54 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 08:16:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikuWO8JA9alOlQ8W-6jLpTPVi7LtxYcQMTFYaR9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikbIW7Z3_R1aLUQUN9SauWw_sRNHUhq1y75lskX@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinX3x4PptZS9LDn9oUFaMYvUXQqRSYajJU8Thv4@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikuWO8JA9alOlQ8W-6jLpTPVi7LtxYcQMTFYaR9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C064BB6.6010800@argolis.org>

Brian Curry wrote:

> Once they have started.  The starting current is HUGE.  That is why a
> relay should be used.  Ask Gerry Cavanaugh, if you want confirmation
> of that.

If you look around, you'll find units that spec the in-rush (startup) 
current draw.  Those usually aren't the $100 ebay specials. :)  The one 
I've been eying up specs "<4.5A, 0-5ms", which would seem OK.

http://www.kbcarstuff.com/Motorcycle_Xenon_HID_Conversion_Kits_s/34.htm

A couple reviews:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/lights/hid-light/motorcycle-hid-light-conversion/
http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/hid-motorcycle-driving-light/

I can never make a determination about the myths and legends floating 
around the internet, so I haven't done anything yet.  One should also 
read Daniel Stern's page about how putting a HID light in a halogen 
reflector is evil, at least for a counterpoint.

From pasegc at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 12:18:39 2010
From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 08:18:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikuWO8JA9alOlQ8W-6jLpTPVi7LtxYcQMTFYaR9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikbIW7Z3_R1aLUQUN9SauWw_sRNHUhq1y75lskX@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinX3x4PptZS9LDn9oUFaMYvUXQqRSYajJU8Thv4@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikuWO8JA9alOlQ8W-6jLpTPVi7LtxYcQMTFYaR9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim9BnVXeAjC0QTE4qGhgH-2adWNVtil6cqzbMN9@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:

> Once they have started. ?The starting current is HUGE. ?That is why a
> relay should be used. ?Ask Gerry Cavanaugh, if you want confirmation
> of that.
>

Tis true.  I have installed the Tourotech high beam HID.  I love
it!!!!  You replace the complete headlight.  I also found that you
best install a relay system also as the starting power is so large for
a brief period that you will eventually burn out the high/low beam
switch.  Unfortunately it cost me more because I thought the bulb had
burnt out. A replacement bulb was in the area of $125.00 which I did
not require but it is an electrical part and not returnable. The BMW
switch devise on the bar runs about $150.00 and I had to replace it.
They say the HID last approximately 10 years.  Obviously you know how
bright these things are.  I can see deer eyes on the side of the road,
in the woods, as I pass by.  Drivers in front of me move out of the
way during day light hours and you do not need to look in your mirrors
to know if I'm behind you.  My system is about 5 years old now and
does have a separate ballast.  Have no need to look to see anything
newer other than the possibility of motolights for the calipers.  I
have the beam lowered a tiny bit so I don't blind on coming traffic
but I rarely get a flash of lights unless it is really dark out (no
moon).  I didn't cut the wiring as suggested but tapped into it so I
can always replace the original fixture and bulb.  Cost of the HID
initally was $700.00

Gerry Cavanaugh
Coatesville, PA

From piechota at argolis.org  Wed Jun  2 12:28:03 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 08:28:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] matching license plates
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimOcmEI2cSWI-pBzau4EzQouDgo_WWv1FwYVWIm@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CCD017CC3DDC08-3B18-4ABF@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTimOcmEI2cSWI-pBzau4EzQouDgo_WWv1FwYVWIm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C064E53.8070409@argolis.org>

Corey Lyba wrote:
> Wow! Somebody really screwed up on that one.

Is there a zero in there somewhere?

From kgbruce1 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 12:31:34 2010
From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 08:31:34 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] matching license plates
In-Reply-To: <4C064E53.8070409@argolis.org>
References: <8CCD017CC3DDC08-3B18-4ABF@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTimOcmEI2cSWI-pBzau4EzQouDgo_WWv1FwYVWIm@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C064E53.8070409@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimwI89IfhxknoQDuf-_WovalbSFwWk9RivzHTQB@mail.gmail.com>

Give that man a cigar!

Ken Bruce

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Matt Piechota <piechota at argolis.org> wrote:

> Corey Lyba wrote:
> > Wow! Somebody really screwed up on that one.
>
> Is there a zero in there somewhere?
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From jweiss11 at comcast.net  Wed Jun  2 12:40:59 2010
From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 08:40:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cheese steak Run
In-Reply-To: <9F1B1C50FC264CF3B3C5B231FAB1A819@Tekki>
References: <9F1B1C50FC264CF3B3C5B231FAB1A819@Tekki>
Message-ID: <1B390B54359543CC88A719310394CA52@jackde48df08c6>

All right; who's going.....I know it's only Tuesday, but Saturday rolls
around real fast, so it is helpful to know.

Me
Matt Piechota
Jim Sterling
Elia Gianopulis
Rick Cavaliere
Jack Weiss 
Corey Lyba
Kimi Bush(?)
Scott Miller(?)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Jack is in! I will bring my Bike, Belly and Bib. I'm thinking that after the
third or fourth stop you really don't want to be one of the last bikes in
the formation. 

Yo, Jay Scales. Didn't you say you were joining in the gluttony?  


From corey.lyba at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 12:42:57 2010
From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 08:42:57 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] matching license plates
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimwI89IfhxknoQDuf-_WovalbSFwWk9RivzHTQB@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CCD017CC3DDC08-3B18-4ABF@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTimOcmEI2cSWI-pBzau4EzQouDgo_WWv1FwYVWIm@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C064E53.8070409@argolis.org>
	<AANLkTimwI89IfhxknoQDuf-_WovalbSFwWk9RivzHTQB@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinNV7UK5rOHoalhEz0HpPCt80hzRdYgUfuvfM6y@mail.gmail.com>

Nice, I didn't even think of the zero option. You guys are like twins now.

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 13:38:06 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 09:38:06 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim9BnVXeAjC0QTE4qGhgH-2adWNVtil6cqzbMN9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikbIW7Z3_R1aLUQUN9SauWw_sRNHUhq1y75lskX@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinX3x4PptZS9LDn9oUFaMYvUXQqRSYajJU8Thv4@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikuWO8JA9alOlQ8W-6jLpTPVi7LtxYcQMTFYaR9@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim9BnVXeAjC0QTE4qGhgH-2adWNVtil6cqzbMN9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinZP_-EJJKVTS9HGS-Pf72YhyBar1umfkw4hi8B@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Friends Et Al:

Oncoming traffic has annoyed me so often with their brilliant "blue"
xenon lights that I just don't give a shit anymore. I hope their
retinas are fried when they go past me.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 15:07:49 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 11:07:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is PRETTY.
Message-ID: <AANLkTim31x42vCjoHQocXAKkI0-7sWQ3cOGoLhX6_ZYf@mail.gmail.com>

http://trident3.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/34_triumph_x-75_hurricane-1000x6711.jpg
(WS)

I think parts of it comes from growing up when these were NEW!

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 15:10:46 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 11:10:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT or not (It does have three wheels): Mentos and Coke
	"Rocket Vehicle"
Message-ID: <AANLkTimncPnt4V_JNdOPafAHQZBXuIwowhO6uZDm5jww@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-hXcRtbj1Y
(WS)

Good thing that the operator was wearing the proper protective gear.
They need a better initiation and release mechanism.  More range that
way.  They lost some propulsion forces while latched.

Some will know where this was shot.  VERY impressive videography of it.

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From saylorspond at comcast.net  Wed Jun  2 15:10:53 2010
From: saylorspond at comcast.net (saylorspond at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 15:10:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <1976782050.665931275491378149.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1716040202.666841275491453478.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Here is the thread describing what I did. 

http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=43777 

After the installation, I did a qualitative comparison of the light projection height at 25' and did not need to adjust the headlight to accommodate the HID bulb. I've not had any issues with blinding oncoming traffic. Quality of the XenonDepot product was excellent and seemed to be competitively priced. 

Scott Miller 
Drexel Hill, PA 
1999 R1100RT-P 

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From: "Corey Lyba" <corey.lyba at gmail.com> 
To: "MAC PAC List" <mac-pac-l at jtan.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2010 6:19:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights 

Has any one upgraded to HID's? I'm looking to do it and want to know 
what the best option is. 2005 1200GS. 

Thanks, 
Corey 
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From willweir at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 15:13:05 2010
From: willweir at gmail.com (Will Weir)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 11:13:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Was that Corey and Kimi in Chalfont?
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We visited Jena last summer for a college friends reunion and
unfortunately the goat is no more.  She died sometime the year before.
Guess the Mac-Pac influence was too much...

Will

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Dick <bmwdick at gmail.com> wrote:
> Those were some nice roads, Will.
> I clearly recall one near the reservoir that was pretty much washed away.
> But it was pretty country, and as I recall,a very pleasant ride. We
> even got to visit a goat on that trip.
> Dick
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Will Weir <willweir at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Kimi,
>>
>> I grew up right near route 10. ?In fact, my high school (South
>> Kortright Central) is right on route 10. We lived in Hobart, which is
>> a tiny little place located between Delhi and Stamford.
>>
>> Lots of good riding roads over that way. ?I took Dicky B. on some of
>> them when we did our tour to Vermont and back.
>>
>> Will
>>
>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Kimi Bush <kimi.bush at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We decided to re-trace a northbound route that we attempted 4 years
>>> ago. ?During the first go-around there was extensive flood damage in
>>> NY, which caused considerable problems for finding accommodations and
>>> enjoying the scenery. ?This time it was smoothing-sailing up beautiful
>>> Rt. 10 through the Catskills and into the lowest portion of Adirondak
>>> park, where we called it a night around 6pm on Sunday with 300 miles
>>> on the trip. ?We liked the ride so much, that we turned around and did
>>> the exact reverse route home today.
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>
>
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> not sure about the universe.? ? ?Albert Einstein.
>

From rys at R2Controls.com  Wed Jun  2 15:18:51 2010
From: rys at R2Controls.com (Rick Rys)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 11:18:51 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <1716040202.666841275491453478.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1976782050.665931275491378149.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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I installed the PIAA Cross Country HID's in July 2009 and used the Centech
switched fuse box for power. These are the brightest lights I've seen.  They
project shadows on road signs in bright sunlight. 

The 12 degree "spot" beam angle is great for lighting the road ahead on the
highway.  I also have the optional BMW FOG lights so together they are great
for straight ahead and peripheral.  

The negatives:
They are blinding to oncoming traffic at night and with the ~15 sec delay
are too slow for toggling in traffic. I use them in the daytime and whenever
conditions allow at night.  I do not believe they are street legal, so I do
try to be polite.  I did have one of the bulbs fail, but could not locate a
replacement. Not sure if they are available. PIAA sent me a complete light
fixture with integral ballast for free under warrantee. 

Page down on this link and there looks like some useful stats/links for HID.
http://dr650.zenseeker.net/Headlights.htm

I think I toasted my brothers digital voltmeter during troubleshooting, I
don't think it works for 20,000 volts.  Might not be a good idea to change
these bulbs with the power on. Maybe PIAA gave me the whole unit to keep me
away from the shock hazard!

Rick Rys 2006 R1200 GSA



From jasiii at earthlink.net  Wed Jun  2 15:21:12 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 11:21:12 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikbIW7Z3_R1aLUQUN9SauWw_sRNHUhq1y75lskX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C82BEF28.41D0%jasiii@earthlink.net>

> Has any one upgraded to HID's? I'm looking to do it and want to know
> what the best option is. 2005 1200GS.
> 
> Thanks,
> Corey

Which ever kit you get make sure that you use a relay..

If the kit does NOT have one then go buy a weatherproof relay for the power
lead.

The BMW switch will not hold up with the current that this lights draw..

If or when you get this ket if you need any help let me know..

Jim
-- 
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881



From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 15:49:43 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 11:49:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] "Visual Estimation" ONLY is enough for a ticket in Ohio
Message-ID: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>

Enhancing the reputation of Ohio as a police state.

Ohio Supreme Court rules that an officer's estimate of speed is
sufficient for a ticket.

http://www.wlwt.com/news/23767184/detail.html

The unscientific poll disagrees strongly with the court.  I really do
wonder about the "training" and just what it involves...

I would say this means it is open season on motorists, and get GOOD at
groveling if stopped in Ohio.  It should help the government balance
their budget...

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From jhw4458 at verizon.net  Wed Jun  2 16:01:23 2010
From: jhw4458 at verizon.net (Clyde Jacobs)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 12:01:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - New Garden Air Show
Message-ID: <A2B5B446-E79A-4C4D-9D2A-E077D7B39387@verizon.net>

Hi - Looking for something to do on June 12/13, New Garden Flying field is having their annual Air & Car show. Old war birds, Homebuilts, Antiques, the works. There will even be a flyover from the B2 Stealth bomber, The runway is too short for it to land and takeoff. Here is the link ! Special parking for motorcycles, I did not see this mentioned but its true.

http://newgarden.schultzairshows.com/

From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun  2 16:42:49 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 12:42:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Not a good air day...
In-Reply-To: <1892696361.422581275439200838.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8CCD089C4AB8C6B-B9C-32@webmail-m023.sysops.aol.com>


<<I just read an excellent book on Forest Fires. Called "The Big Burn" 
it covers Teddy Roosevelt, Gifford Pinchot and the creation of the 
National Forest system, and the huge 1910 blaze that took out an area 
the size of Conn. Good read. Some forest are made to burn, and need to 
burn. Problem is that we live in them. >>

Forest fires are part of a natural cycle (man is part of nature, so 
man-caused fires are still part of that natural system.)

When the Forest Service started putting out forest fires, they created 
a giant reservoir of unburnt fuel that woule burn much hotter than the 
original fire would have. That hotter fire destroys the stumops and 
roots of the forest, and can lead to devastating erosion., Natural 
fires burn off the vegetative cover and return nutrients to the soil.

That's the short version. The Yellowstone fires about 10 years ago are 
the long story. Many hundreds of square miles of old-growth timber were 
lost because of the artificial fire suppression methods used for years 
prior.

In the end, nature will prevail. We will be gone, as nothing but an 
unsuccessful evolutionary dead end in the ongoing cycle of the 
universe. We are headed for destruction of our environment, hell-bent 
on making the planet uninhabitable for humanoids, and we have only been 
on this rock for about what, 20 million years or so? The dinosaurs, 
which most humans consider to be an evolutionary failure, lasted 600 
million years on this planet, eventually succumbing to an environmental 
change that they could not adapt to quickly enough.

Way after we are gone, there will be healthy forests and natural forest 
fires. The only thing missing will be politicians looking to enrich 
their cronies with hare-brained schemes to suction cash out of the 
public treasury.

Enjoy it while you can.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???


-----Original Message-----
From: johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) <JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net>
To: Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com>
Cc: mjcantwe at gmail.com; mac-pac-l at jtan.com
Sent: Tue, Jun 1, 2010 8:40 pm
Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] OT: Not a good air day...


>Today it rained very heavily all up the St. Lawrence Valley, so that 
 >may have helped them in their efforts to contain the blaze. > >I rode 
in and out of rain all the way home. Fun. (not.) I just read an 
excellent book on Forest Fires. Called "The Big Burn" it covers Teddy 
Roosevelt, Gifford Pinchot and the creation of the National Forest 
system, and the huge 1910 blaze that took out an area the size of Conn. 
Good read. Some forest are made to burn, and need to burn. Problem is 
that we live in them. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want 
every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno
  

From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun  2 16:51:03 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 12:51:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:  External Hard Drives
In-Reply-To: <4C05AA2D.6070601@ptd.net>
References: <4C05AA2D.6070601@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <8CCD08AEBF1A2B3-B9C-21A@webmail-m023.sysops.aol.com>


<<Am almost afraid to ask,  but any opinions on what brands to buy and 
what brands to stay away from?   I probably need about 500 GB storage.  
Also, does it do me any good to get a "network drive" unit (to plug 
into router) even though my router is used simply as a physical 
firewall for my cable modem and not really for a network?ThanksChris 
Jaccarino>>

I'm a computer idiot.

That said, I bought a Western Digital 160 GB USB 2.0 drive a couple 
years ago for about $140. Now that $$ will get you 1-2 Terrabytes of 
storage

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=external+usb+hard+drive+western+digital&x=0&y=0

I plugged it in, the computer detected it, I dump backup copies of 
stuff on it and it has been totally trouble-free.

Oh. once it came unplugged. I had to discipline the maid.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

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From wayne at 2zars.com  Wed Jun  2 17:23:50 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 13:23:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ride to Work - reminder 6/21
Message-ID: <AANLkTim0HPl-p20JU2LsxGCNoYUFRsUvDg6EUIzx9E1h@mail.gmail.com>

We have a department that handles communications at the Motorola,
Horsham PA facility.  I contacted them a while ago about Ride to Work
Day.  Our monthly site email just came out and included the following.
 They even included a link to add it to our Outlook calendar and it
shows up on the big whiteboard calendar in the cafeteria :-)


Monday, June 21: National Ride to Work Day
The 19th annual Motorcycle and Scooter Ride to Work Day is Monday,
June 21. On this day, over a million workers will commute via
motorcycles and scooters to demonstrate the efficiency and other
positive benefits of these vehicles. Remind me via Outlook

-- 
Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From wateredg at interlog.com  Wed Jun  2 17:32:18 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 13:32:18 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: File syncing app on Windows
Message-ID: <24A2E91A49FB4E49B6E737A44B369C80@9200c>

Hello everyone,

Just thought I'd pass on this info, and my endorsement for this free 
product:

I have discovered a free Windows app that is great for synching data. I use 
it for backing up an external hard disk where my V: volume contains offline 
storage, and any changes I make there are mirrored to my W: volume (a backup 
to V:), so after syncing, my original V: volume has an exact copy, W:.

SyncToy can do other things, such as assembling a single copy of all images 
(.jpg) from a number of directories and copying them into a single target 
directory, or synchronizing data files between a laptop and desktop (i.e., 
which ever is newest, copy it to the other).

You can get SyncToy at:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=C26EFA36-98E0-4EE9-A7C5-98D0592D8C52&displaylang=en

Note: SyncToy is *NOT* suitable for backing up you boot volume because it 
does not back up registry data. There are much better apps for this.

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada 


From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Wed Jun  2 18:07:44 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 18:07:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Not a good air day...
In-Reply-To: <8CCD089C4AB8C6B-B9C-32@webmail-m023.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1046191949.750641275502064142.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>


>When the Forest Service started putting out forest fires, they created 
>a giant reservoir of unburnt fuel that woule burn much hotter than the 
>original fire would have. 

> The Yellowstone fires about 10 years ago are 
>the long story. Many hundreds of square miles of old-growth timber were 
>lost because of the artificial fire suppression methods used for years 
>prior. 

Tom, 

You are correct some forests need to burn. The scrub pines of the pine barrens in New Jersey are an example. In order for the cones to open they must be exposed to the heat from a fire. Eventually they will burn whether you like it or not. The big fire in 1910 was not caused by the forest service, as they had only been created a year or two earlier. It was a fire that was caused by an extended drought creating tinderbox conditions. The new train track going through that region sparked most of the fire, along with lightening and it was "The Perfect Storm" for a fire. Yellowstone is a naturally burning forest as well. As is the forest that surrounds Malibu that burned last year. Typically the forest here in Southeastern PA does not burn. That is good for us. 

John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From piechota at argolis.org  Wed Jun  2 18:35:39 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:35:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is PRETTY.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim31x42vCjoHQocXAKkI0-7sWQ3cOGoLhX6_ZYf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim31x42vCjoHQocXAKkI0-7sWQ3cOGoLhX6_ZYf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C06A47B.5020503@argolis.org>

Brian Curry wrote:
> http://trident3.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/34_triumph_x-75_hurricane-1000x6711.jpg
> (WS)
> 
> I think parts of it comes from growing up when these were NEW!
> 

Is that a functional brake-duct on the front drum?

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun  2 18:40:49 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:40:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] "Visual Estimation" ONLY is enough for a ticket in
 Ohio
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C06A5B1.1080305@ptd.net>

Brian Curry wrote:
> Enhancing the reputation of Ohio as a police state.
>
> Ohio Supreme Court rules that an officer's estimate of speed is
> sufficient for a ticket.
>
> http://www.wlwt.com/news/23767184/detail.html
>
> The unscientific poll disagrees strongly with the court.  I really do
> wonder about the "training" and just what it involves...
>
> I would say this means it is open season on motorists, and get GOOD at
> groveling if stopped in Ohio.  It should help the government balance
> their budget...
>
>   
Well thats FU  _ _ ING bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chris Jaccarino

From piechota at argolis.org  Wed Jun  2 18:41:20 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:41:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <C82BEF28.41D0%jasiii@earthlink.net>
References: <C82BEF28.41D0%jasiii@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4C06A5D0.5080005@argolis.org>

James A. Sterling wrote:
>> Has any one upgraded to HID's? I'm looking to do it and want to know
>> what the best option is. 2005 1200GS.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Corey
> 
> Which ever kit you get make sure that you use a relay..
> 
> If the kit does NOT have one then go buy a weatherproof relay for the power
> lead.
> 
> The BMW switch will not hold up with the current that this lights draw..
> 
> If or when you get this ket if you need any help let me know..

I know this is the common wisdom (as experienced by Gerry), but if the 
in-rush current (on the particular kit I'm looking at) is specified as 
4.5A, and the steady-state current is less than that, what's the problem?

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Wed Jun  2 18:55:57 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 14:55:57 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is PRETTY.
Message-ID: <10753680.1275504957465.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Now this is PRETTY.
>
>Brian Curry wrote:
>> http://trident3.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/34_triumph_x-75_hurricane-1000x6711.jpg
>> (WS)
>> 
>> I think parts of it comes from growing up when these were NEW!
>> 
>
>Is that a functional brake-duct on the front drum?
Yes it was.. and I have cleaned a lot of bugs out of the drum in the past.. 

Jim 

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From wayne at 2zars.com  Wed Jun  2 18:59:24 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 14:59:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: File syncing app on Windows
In-Reply-To: <24A2E91A49FB4E49B6E737A44B369C80@9200c>
References: <24A2E91A49FB4E49B6E737A44B369C80@9200c>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikEEqob3np-ZR_ADYk88zB-IKaXLisQTnEnlu_D@mail.gmail.com>

> Hello everyone,
>
> Just thought I'd pass on this info, and my endorsement for this free
> product:

[snippage]
>
> You can get SyncToy at:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=C26EFA36-98E0-4EE9-A7C5-98D0592D8C52&displaylang=en
>
> Note: SyncToy is *NOT* suitable for backing up you boot volume because it
> does not back up registry data. There are much better apps for this.
>

I've been using a product called PureSync for some time now.  Free for
personal use.  The Professional version is 14.95E, which is ~$18.24.

http://www.jumpingbytes.com/en/puresync.html

Just another data point in the infinite toilet bowl of information

-- 
Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun  2 18:43:07 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:43:07 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] "Visual Estimation" ONLY is enough for a ticket in
 Ohio
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C06A63B.2020201@ptd.net>

Brian Curry wrote:
> Enhancing the reputation of Ohio as a police state.
>
> Ohio Supreme Court rules that an officer's estimate of speed is
> sufficient for a ticket.
>
> http://www.wlwt.com/news/23767184/detail.html
>
> The unscientific poll disagrees strongly with the court.  I really do
> wonder about the "training" and just what it involves...
>
> I would say this means it is open season on motorists, and get GOOD at
> groveling if stopped in Ohio.  It should help the government balance
> their budget...
>
>   
One more comment....this is just another step closer to the day that I 
have been saying will come.  That day is when you will want a large dual 
sport motorcycle with a flip up license plate so that when the cops 
light you up, you simply take off off-road.

Chris Jaccarino



From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 19:05:00 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 15:05:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <4C06A5D0.5080005@argolis.org>
References: <C82BEF28.41D0%jasiii@earthlink.net> <4C06A5D0.5080005@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil-ftx1rF5sCSIYnA-yQfKDsi4xX6gD16K_XYG3@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/2/10, Matt Piechota <piechota at argolis.org> wrote:
> James A. Sterling wrote:
>  >> Has any one upgraded to HID's? I'm looking to do it and want to know
>  >> what the best option is. 2005 1200GS.
>  >>
>  >> Thanks,
>  >> Corey
>  >
>  > Which ever kit you get make sure that you use a relay..
>  >
>  > If the kit does NOT have one then go buy a weatherproof relay for the power
>  > lead.
>  >
>  > The BMW switch will not hold up with the current that this lights draw..
>  >
>  > If or when you get this ket if you need any help let me know..
>
>
> I know this is the common wisdom (as experienced by Gerry), but if the

I am not sure about "common wisdom" as frequently used.  Gerry is DATA.

>  in-rush current (on the particular kit I'm looking at) is specified as
>  4.5A, and the steady-state current is less than that, what's the problem?

GTFS on BMW switchgear failures.  There is a reason that relays are
recommended for HLs to prevent switch failures.

Another part of it might be that you are feeding a "ballast" that
might have a nice big inductive kick.  Inductive kicks are HORRIBLE on
switch contacts.  Just HORRIBLE.

I would do some personal measuring.

Still missing in a LOT of the recommendations here w/ relatationship
to HL use is how the "ZFE" or whatever the model that controls the
lights is, if he has a "Canbus" setup.  And I believe all the R12
Hexheads are of that design.   They DO NOT like low operating currents
and I don't know of any one that knows how to reprogram it to accept
any lower currents.


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From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 19:13:08 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 15:13:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] "Visual Estimation" ONLY is enough for a ticket in
	Ohio
In-Reply-To: <4C06A63B.2020201@ptd.net>
References: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C06A63B.2020201@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim_-iLG3KmOr1BuONHHEjfEJlnt0or8bNknlVmt@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Esteemed Colleagues and Friends:

The day of total bullshit is already upon us. When it is illegal for a
citizen to videotape an arrest or a road stop in progress, while the
cops can videotaoe to their hearts content, when the federal
authorities can enter your home with a "letter of intent" as opposed
to a warrant, when your private data can be seaized by any federal
agency at a US border (just because they fucking feel like it), and
when a cop (many of home are the best their profession has ever
trained, and many of whom are sadistic feral goat-fuckers) get the
opportunity to "guess the infraction," the time for public commentary
is nigh.

Consider the very first of my examples. Technically speaking, a
reporter is breaking the law if he or she photographs a riot in which
the cops are beating the shit out out of looters. The looters may well
deserve to have the shit beaten out of them. If they were gang rapists
? caught in the act ? one would hope the cops would use flamethrowers.
But it would still be illegal to report this on TV, or to run a
picture in a newspaper.
-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From wayne at 2zars.com  Wed Jun  2 19:13:22 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 15:13:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Lego Printer
Message-ID: <AANLkTimP9V6PzgoGyP3SmbCGxZiojB9PRP9sya1UiYQT@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/lego-printer-writes-hello-world-with-felt-tipped-pen-video/
(WS)

Pretty cool. Someone constructed a printer with Lego's and a felt pen.

-- 
Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 19:18:45 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 15:18:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is PRETTY.
In-Reply-To: <10753680.1275504957465.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <10753680.1275504957465.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil-R_GWxMs7ue-afU10ppbsZscMKpF_4qdBIEZo@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Jim Sterling <jasiii at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Now this is PRETTY.
>>
>>Brian Curry wrote:
>>> http://trident3.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/34_triumph_x-75_hurricane-1000x6711.jpg
>>> (WS)
>>>
>>> I think parts of it comes from growing up when these were NEW!
>>>
>>
>>Is that a functional brake-duct on the front drum?
> Yes it was.. and I have cleaned a lot of bugs out of the drum in the past..
>
> Jim


At Vintage Days I was able to hear Craig Vetter tell the story of how
he designed this bike and how BSA/Triumph changed it before it hit the
dealer's.

They added fork tube extensions (slugs) at the top, because they
thought an American bike should look like a chopper.  Craig wanted it
to handle well and look like a hot British bike.

The fact that it happened at all is a miracle. Craig only got like
$12K for the whole project (if memory serves).

Dano

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Wed Jun  2 19:20:28 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 19:20:28 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 'Visual Estimation' ONLY is enough for a ticket in
 Ohio
In-Reply-To: <4C06A5B1.1080305@ptd.net>
References: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C06A5B1.1080305@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <59283.12.181.211.35.1275506428.squirrel@12.181.211.35>

> Brian Curry wrote:
>> Enhancing the reputation of Ohio as a police state.
>>
>> Ohio Supreme Court rules that an officer's estimate of speed is
>> sufficient for a ticket.
>>
>> http://www.wlwt.com/news/23767184/detail.html
>>
>> The unscientific poll disagrees strongly with the court.  I really do
>> wonder about the "training" and just what it involves...
>>
>> I would say this means it is open season on motorists, and get GOOD at
>> groveling if stopped in Ohio.  It should help the government balance
>> their budget...
>>
>>
> Well thats FU  _ _ ING bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>

Yes and no.  The article does not give any context on the case.  I agree
that no amount of training and experience can make you accurate like a
radar gun.  However, if I saw someone doing 65 in a 25 zone, I could
easily say he/she was going too fast.  The same person going 65 in a 55
zone would too tough to call.  One also may have the advantage of other
traffic on the road that can provide a visual reference.

I agree that there is a high BS factor, but not 100%.

Ride Safe,

Joe


From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 19:28:13 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 15:28:13 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil-ftx1rF5sCSIYnA-yQfKDsi4xX6gD16K_XYG3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C82BEF28.41D0%jasiii@earthlink.net> <4C06A5D0.5080005@argolis.org>
	<AANLkTil-ftx1rF5sCSIYnA-yQfKDsi4xX6gD16K_XYG3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin9F4ZZkK5ocF1mOPpZM2vcznJaJYzTJXBfEe84@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues:

A member of this group suggested I need to make a lot of money to have
mechanics on stand-by, as I am incapable of fixing or wiring anthing
with an eye for economy. And I may have paid $295 more than Gary
Christman for a wiring harness for my otherwise identical HID lights.
But I love them. The self-contained ballasts were great as I had no
place to hide ballasts on my K75. The switch works well. And I love
hearing the word, "Fuck" from oncoming Audis, Lexuses, and BMW's, who
have been routinely blinding me with their xenon lights for the past
three years. There are seven senior citizen communities around my
house. At night, escaping zombies from these places ride all over with
their high-beams locked "on" and the right turn signal perpeptually
blinking. They too benefit from my lights.

These dark, back-country Amish lanes around here light up like the
crystal palace with these lights. And I do not feel bad about using
them on roads like the New Jersey Turnpike, where tailgating is raised
to an art form.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun  2 19:31:56 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:31:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] "Visual Estimation" ONLY is enough for a ticket in
 Ohio
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim_-iLG3KmOr1BuONHHEjfEJlnt0or8bNknlVmt@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>	<4C06A63B.2020201@ptd.net>
	<AANLkTim_-iLG3KmOr1BuONHHEjfEJlnt0or8bNknlVmt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C06B1AC.1040208@ptd.net>

Jack Riepe wrote:
> Dear Esteemed Colleagues and Friends:
>
> The day of total bullshit is already upon us. When it is illegal for a
> citizen to videotape an arrest or a road stop in progress, while the
> cops can videotaoe to their hearts content, when the federal
> authorities can enter your home with a "letter of intent" as opposed
> to a warrant, when your private data can be seaized by any federal
> agency at a US border (just because they fucking feel like it), and
> when a cop (many of home are the best their profession has ever
> trained, and many of whom are sadistic feral goat-fuckers) get the
> opportunity to "guess the infraction," the time for public commentary
> is nigh.
>
> Consider the very first of my examples. Technically speaking, a
> reporter is breaking the law if he or she photographs a riot in which
> the cops are beating the shit out out of looters. The looters may well
> deserve to have the shit beaten out of them. If they were gang rapists
> ? caught in the act ? one would hope the cops would use flamethrowers.
> But it would still be illegal to report this on TV, or to run a
> picture in a newspaper.
>   

Who says you cant tape your first example?  My understanding under PA 
law as long as you are in public and dont have an expectation of 
privacy, you can tape.

Chris Jaccarino

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 19:39:56 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 15:39:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] "Visual Estimation" ONLY is enough for a ticket in
	Ohio
In-Reply-To: <4C06B1AC.1040208@ptd.net>
References: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C06A63B.2020201@ptd.net>
	<AANLkTim_-iLG3KmOr1BuONHHEjfEJlnt0or8bNknlVmt@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C06B1AC.1040208@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinuqpRJtuRZzc2gTdbya2jak_W8l5QDbvBJC1cE@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/2/10, Chris <chrisjac at ptd.net> wrote:
> Jack Riepe wrote:
> > The day of total bullshit is already upon us. When it is illegal for a
> > citizen to videotape an arrest or a road stop in progress, while the
> > cops can videotaoe to their hearts content, when the federal

>  Who says you cant tape your first example?  My understanding under PA law
> as long as you are in public and dont have an expectation of privacy, you
> can tape.

Exceptions are being carved out.  You can't videotape police in MD.  I
posted about that sometime back.  A guy had a helmet cam running.  Got
stopped by an unmarked car, and a non-uniformed guy jumps out waving a
gun at him.  The motorcyclist posted it on Youtube.  He has been cited
for unauthorized videotaping of a police officer.

It sucketh large.

I doan know about PA.  However, since we share a border, I suspect
that it will be here shortly if not already.

Please carry KY/Astroglyde with you then they don't have to supply any
which they will not.

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From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 19:43:35 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 15:43:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] "Visual Estimation" ONLY is enough for a ticket in
	Ohio
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikEodRGQR7DSHetKudFfLhdSaIIiRZLDmz2Sm9q@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> Enhancing the reputation of Ohio as a police state.
>
> Ohio Supreme Court rules that an officer's estimate of speed is
> sufficient for a ticket.
>
> http://www.wlwt.com/news/23767184/detail.html
>
> The unscientific poll disagrees strongly with the court. ?I really do
> wonder about the "training" and just what it involves...
>
> I would say this means it is open season on motorists, and get GOOD at
> groveling if stopped in Ohio. ?It should help the government balance
> their budget...


I had that happen on the PA Turnpike near Carlisle.

Officer saw me pass in the ECOMOBILE bike from a road off the
Turnpike, got on the pike and ran me down 10 miles later. NO RADAR.
He knew that I was the only thing that looked like that and he wanted
to take some pics.

I didn't have time to go to court for that one.

Dano

From bergman at panix.com  Wed Jun  2 19:43:44 2010
From: bergman at panix.com (Mark Bergman)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 15:43:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jack's BS about photographer's rights (Was: Re:
 "Visual Estimation" ONLY is enough for a ticket in Ohio)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim_-iLG3KmOr1BuONHHEjfEJlnt0or8bNknlVmt@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C06A63B.2020201@ptd.net>
	<AANLkTim_-iLG3KmOr1BuONHHEjfEJlnt0or8bNknlVmt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100602154344.453af41d@mirchi>

The pithy ruminations from Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> on "Re: [MAC-PAC] "Visual Estimation" ONLY is enough for a ticket in Ohio" were:

=> Dear Esteemed Colleagues and Friends:
=> 
=> The day of total bullshit is already upon us. When it is illegal for a
=> citizen to videotape an arrest or a road stop in progress, while the
=> cops can videotaoe to their hearts content, when the federal
            ^^^^^^^^^

=> authorities can enter your home with a "letter of intent" as opposed
=> to a warrant, when your private data can be seaized by any federal
                                               ^^^^^^^

=> agency at a US border (just because they fucking feel like it), and
=> when a cop (many of home are the best their profession has ever
                       ^^^^
=> trained, and many of whom are sadistic feral goat-fuckers) get the
                                                              ^^^
=> opportunity to "guess the infraction," the time for public commentary
=> is nigh.


What do you do for a living? Is it something involving words, and writing? Not spelling, I hope.

=> 
=> Consider the very first of my examples. Technically speaking, a
=> reporter is breaking the law if he or she photographs a riot in which

The odor of bullshit is getting a bit strong. Please provide a legal citation so that I can print it out and fan away some of the fumes.

I am not a lawyer. Certainly, there have been a few high-profile incidents of people being arrested for wiretapping violations, or cited with interfering with the performance of a law enforcement officer. However, my understanding is that:

	1. there are well-established precedents for recording (audio, video, stills) public events by reporters (note: "reporter" may
		not be the same as "some guy with a blog")

	2. there are well-established precedents for recording news events

Sure, reporters may be arrested, but that doesn't mean that they are breaking the law, just that the arresting cops made a mistake.


	[SNIP!]

=> But it would still be illegal to report this on TV, or to run a
=> picture in a newspaper.

Complete BS. Absent violations of national security (a large and growing black hole, I admit) such as photographing a nuclear plant, there are virtually no restrictions on photography in public. Sure, there are civil problems with showing recognizable faces without a release unless the people were at a newsworthy public event (such as, say, a riot). The question of recording _audio_ is completely different....but you still haven't provided any citations or usable information, just inflammatory speculation.


[I'd provide legal citations myself, but the 'net connection here at $WORK is down. Again. I don't know if this message will even go out before Labor Day. If you do see this mail, consider looking up "Legal Handbook for Photographers".]

-----
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'94 Yamaha GTS1000A^2
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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 19:51:03 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 15:51:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] "Visual Estimation" ONLY is enough for a ticket in
	Ohio
In-Reply-To: <4C06B1AC.1040208@ptd.net>
References: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C06A63B.2020201@ptd.net>
	<AANLkTim_-iLG3KmOr1BuONHHEjfEJlnt0or8bNknlVmt@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C06B1AC.1040208@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinSyIQXblHB4sklIVggLEH4IRKriOSXw5ro6uSk@mail.gmail.com>

Found it.

On 6/2/10, Chris <chrisjac at ptd.net> wrote:
> Jack Riepe wrote:

> > The day of total bullshit is already upon us. When it is illegal for a
> > citizen to videotape an arrest or a road stop in progress, while the
> > cops can videotaoe to their hearts content, when the federal

>  Who says you cant tape your first example?  My understanding under PA law
> as long as you are in public and dont have an expectation of privacy, you
> can tape.

http://carlosmiller.com/2010/04/16/maryland-motorcyclist-spends-26-hours-in-jail-on-wiretapping-charge-for-filming-cop-with-gun/

As noted, bring your own KY or Astroglyde Chris.

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From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun  2 19:59:13 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:59:13 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] A Missed Photo Op at WSBK
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimzs3fItuVlawp7x8YCp6rGAjgCx-4oSogbc9YE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimzs3fItuVlawp7x8YCp6rGAjgCx-4oSogbc9YE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD0A53508ABA9-B9C-2A65@webmail-m023.sysops.aol.com>


<<* The passenger is a terrified team mechanic.* The driver has a smile 
from ear to ear. His last name is...* Xaus.>>

Did he wreck it like he has with countless team bikes?


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Wed Jun  2 20:00:03 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 16:00:03 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
Message-ID: <9239759.1275508803790.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>> 
>> Which ever kit you get make sure that you use a relay..
>> 
>> If the kit does NOT have one then go buy a weatherproof relay for the power
>> lead.
>> 
>> The BMW switch will not hold up with the current that this lights draw..
>> 
>> If or when you get this ket if you need any help let me know..
>
>I know this is the common wisdom (as experienced by Gerry), but if the 
>in-rush current (on the particular kit I'm looking at) is specified as 
>4.5A, and the steady-state current is less than that, what's the problem?

the switches are good for less then 4.5 Amps.. way less...

As Gerry..

Using a relay reduces the load to way less 

Jim

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun  2 20:06:48 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 16:06:48 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] "Visual Estimation" ONLY is enough for a ticket in
 Ohio
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinSyIQXblHB4sklIVggLEH4IRKriOSXw5ro6uSk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>	<4C06A63B.2020201@ptd.net>	<AANLkTim_-iLG3KmOr1BuONHHEjfEJlnt0or8bNknlVmt@mail.gmail.com>	<4C06B1AC.1040208@ptd.net>
	<AANLkTinSyIQXblHB4sklIVggLEH4IRKriOSXw5ro6uSk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C06B9D8.30502@ptd.net>

Brian Curry wrote:
> Found it.
>
> On 6/2/10, Chris <chrisjac at ptd.net> wrote:
>   
>> Jack Riepe wrote:
>>     
>
>   
>>> The day of total bullshit is already upon us. When it is illegal for a
>>> citizen to videotape an arrest or a road stop in progress, while the
>>> cops can videotaoe to their hearts content, when the federal
>>>       
>
>   
>>  Who says you cant tape your first example?  My understanding under PA law
>> as long as you are in public and dont have an expectation of privacy, you
>> can tape.
>>     
>
> http://carlosmiller.com/2010/04/16/maryland-motorcyclist-spends-26-hours-in-jail-on-wiretapping-charge-for-filming-cop-with-gun/
>
> As noted, bring your own KY or Astroglyde Chris.
>
>   
I said PA, not MD. 

Second, I got a feeling the incident isnt over....it wouldnt be if it 
was me and my family.  If you follow the story, lets see how it truly end.

Chris

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 20:23:13 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 16:23:13 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jack's BS about photographer's rights (Was: Re:
	"Visual Estimation" ONLY is enough for a ticket in Ohio)
In-Reply-To: <20100602154344.453af41d@mirchi>
References: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C06A63B.2020201@ptd.net>
	<AANLkTim_-iLG3KmOr1BuONHHEjfEJlnt0or8bNknlVmt@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100602154344.453af41d@mirchi>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimoblIYl4uzbJ-sAi-ZhGHxicYp4ZEriLH9r4kN@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Mark:

I wrote 1100 words for cash today, and I am already tired. And quite
frankly, I don't proofread enough when I am on my time. So you get the
comment about my spelling for free. But I am not too tired to get
steamed up about a particular issue.

A well-known writer for the BMW MA was strong-armed, arrested, and
thrown in cuffs for taking pictures from a city street of a county
courthouse. (He was on a mission to take pictures of every county
courthouse in his state.) He was later released, after a search. He
wrote an article on it. He is a lawyer and was thinking of taking
further action at the time.

And a motorcycle rider who was pulled over for speeding, was
additionally summoned for recording the stop on his helmet camera,
which was in public view. In that particular state, the video tape is
considered recording an individual without express permission.  The
American Civil Liberties Union is looking into it.

It is a well-documented fact by the ACLU that more government law
enforcement agencies than ever before have gained access to people's
premises using letters of investigation as opposed to warrants.

And the issue of just how easily the federal government can seize your
computer data at the nation's borders was the subject of a an op-ed
piece in the New York Times and USA Today, two years ago. Government
policy has not changed since then.

It may be legal to videotape an arrest or a stop in Pennsylvania, but
it is not that way in the rest of the country. And one state in 50 is
too many.

I really don't have the time nor the inclination to give you a lesson
in government mission creep. You can sit back and enjoy the bullshit
if you like, but while you wait, bernd slightly, drop your pants
around your ankles and get ready for the big surprise. I prefer not to
trust my rights to Republican whores (who compromised them in the
first place) and the Democratic lickspittles who took their place at
the table for the promise of baksheesh.

It is always a pleasure chatting with you. How's was my spelling in this one?

Sincerely,
Jack Riepe

From pasegc at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 20:29:55 2010
From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 16:29:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <9239759.1275508803790.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <9239759.1275508803790.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikLMoP9CXbZO7cU0V23nI5Nb4nVj-RszbSug238@mail.gmail.com>

Failed to mention in my earlier email but Tourotech did not recommend
the relay when I purchased my HID but modified their paperwork shortly
afterwards to include a relay recommendation.  They would not help
with the purchase of the new BMW light switch, Tourotech made the
change about the same time.  My failure was approximately one year
after installation.  High power to the switch each time the bike was
started or I switched from low to high or reverse.

Still love the light however.  As usual the problems are long forgotten.

Gerry Cavanaugh
Coatesville, PA

From kaldewaay at live.com  Wed Jun  2 20:40:53 2010
From: kaldewaay at live.com (Alain Kaldewaay)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 16:40:53 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Labrador ferry services and cell phone
Message-ID: <SNT107-W17972A878EB1147A77F3B2CAD00@phx.gbl>


The Town of Happy Valley-Goose Bay telephone system is serviced through Aliant. Cell phone service is available within the region. Hi speed internet is also available either through the telephone company or the cable company.
If you are traveling out of town on the Trans Labrador Highway, your cell phone cannot be used. Satellite phones can be borrowed, free of charge, at the local hotels where they can be picked up and returned here or in Labrador City. A credit card is required to borrow the unit
 
Each phone comes with an easy-to-follow instruction card for users. Satellite phones can now be picked up at the following locations: 
- Wabush Hotel in Wabush; 
- Midway Travel Inn in Churchill Falls; 
- Hotel North Two and Royal Inn and Suites in Happy Valley-Goose Bay; 
- Cartwright Hotel in Cartwright; 
- Alexis Hotel in Port Hope Simpson; and, 
- Town Office in Charlottetown. 
When borrowing a phone, residents of the province simply need to provide their driver license number and non-residents need to provide a valid credit card number for tracking and security purposes. When users are finished with the phones, they can simply drop them off at the nearest participating location. 
As with the phones currently in service, the new phones will be pre-programmed to enable calls to be directed to the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary (RNC) in Labrador City, which will co-ordinate appropriate emergency response through either the RNC or RCMP
 
http://www.tw.gov.nl.ca/ferryservices/schedules/j_pollo.html#schedule  
 
Reservation Information
For reservations call:
Labrador Marine Inc.
Tel: 1-866-535-2567 (within the province)
Tel: 1-709-535-0810 (outside the toll free area)
A non-refundable deposit for passenger reservations $10.00, for commercial vehicle reservations $50.00. 
All other traffic is on a first come, first serve basis (reservations not required but recommended). All traffic to check in at dockside one hour prior to departure. 
Disabled travellers requiring boarding assistance and/or information on facilities available are asked to please notify Ticket Agent. 
For Local Information call:
Tel: 1-709-877-2222 (St. Barbe)
Tel: 1-418-461-2889 (Blanc Sablon)
 
  		 	   		  
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From kaldewaay at live.com  Wed Jun  2 21:18:23 2010
From: kaldewaay at live.com (Alain Kaldewaay)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 17:18:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] B&B Labrador
Message-ID: <SNT107-W12007EDE5733F1FB569280CAD00@phx.gbl>



Address:
325 Viking Crescent 
Labrador City, Newfoundland  
A2V 1R6 
Contact :
Phone : 1 (709) 944-2875 
Phone : 1 (709) 944-4053 
E-Mail : Click Here to E-Mail us 
Your Host(s) : Lottie Baggs 
4 Rooms
 
Address:
606 Tamarack Drive 
Labrador City, Newfoundland  
A2V 2W3 
Contact :
Phone : 1 (888) 944-6648 (toll free) 
Phone : 1 (709) 944-3438 
Fax    : 1 (709) 944-5404 
Your Host(s) : Jo & Pete Pike 
6 rooms 
Website 1 : www.pjsinnbythelake.com
 
Address:
14 Cabot , Box 811 Stat 'B' Happy Valley 
Goose Bay, Newfoundland  
A0P 1E0 
Contact :
Phone : 1 (709) 896-5077 
Phone : 1 (866) 996-5077 (toll free) 
E-Mail : Click Here to E-Mail us 
Your Host(s) : Marion Davis
4 rooms
 
Address:
655 Topsail Rd. Box 140 Mary's Harbour 
Battle Harbour, Newfoundland  
A0K 3P0 
Contact :
Phone : 1 (709) 921-6325 
Phone : 1 (709) 921-6216 
Fax    : 1 (709) 921-6677 
E-Mail : Click Here to E-Mail us 
Your Host(s) : Mike Earle & Trina 
4 rooms
 
Address:
Box 137 
Forteau, Newfoundland  
A0K 2P0 
Contact :
Phone : 1 (709) 931-2916 
Fax    : 1 (709) 931-2916 
E-Mail : Click Here to E-Mail us 
 Your Host(s) : Peggy Hancock & Dwight Howell 
Friend : Send this Homepage to a friend 
5 rooms 
Website 1 : www.grenfellbandb.ca
 
 
Churchill Falls Inn Hotel
Address: P.O. Box 179 - Churchill Falls - Newfoundland and Labrador - A0R 1A0 - Canada 
Phone: 709-925-3211 

Catwright Hotel 
P.O. Box 59
Airport Rd
Cartwright, NL
A0K 1V0
Ph: 709-938-7414
fax: 709-938-7260
Email: info at cartwrighthotel.ca
 
Labrador Inn
P.O. Box 58. Station C
Goose Bay. Labrador, Newfoundland.
A0P 1C0, Canada Tel: (709) 896-3351
Fax: (709) 896-3927
Res: 1-800-563-2763 
email: reservations at labradorinn.com


 
 
  		 	   		  
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From bradjacoby at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 21:19:39 2010
From: bradjacoby at gmail.com (Brad Jacoby)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 17:19:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jack's BS about photographer's rights (Was: Re:
	"Visual Estimation" ONLY is enough for a ticket in Ohio)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimoblIYl4uzbJ-sAi-ZhGHxicYp4ZEriLH9r4kN@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C06A63B.2020201@ptd.net>
	<AANLkTim_-iLG3KmOr1BuONHHEjfEJlnt0or8bNknlVmt@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100602154344.453af41d@mirchi>
	<AANLkTimoblIYl4uzbJ-sAi-ZhGHxicYp4ZEriLH9r4kN@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin7FEalOwEpeYyqbRODjaw9r6mWEwSIosAtNlrP@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> You can't videotape police in MD.  I posted about that sometime back.

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:
> It may be legal to videotape an arrest or a stop in Pennsylvania, but
> it is not that way in the rest of the country. And one state in 50 is
> too many.

I am terribly concerned about the degradation of individual rights in
this country, but let's not complicate the problem by misrepresenting
it.

Brian's article did nothing to convince me that there's any legal
prohibition of filming police officers in Maryland or any other state.
 To the contrary, the video is up on YouTube now, and the judge who
released the boy allegedly stated she had no idea why he was being
charged with a wiretapping offense.

The examples Jack and Brian have cited show admittedly alarming
circumstances of law enforcement officials arresting and harassing
folks without sufficient legal cause.  Regardless, it remains
counterproductive to summarily classify the activities of the wrongly
accused as now being illegal in that particular jurisdiction.

Brad Jacoby
Bethlehem PA
2008 R1200RT

From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun  2 21:45:03 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:45:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is PRETTY.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim31x42vCjoHQocXAKkI0-7sWQ3cOGoLhX6_ZYf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim31x42vCjoHQocXAKkI0-7sWQ3cOGoLhX6_ZYf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD0B3FE126D6A-16E8-1A82@webmail-d064.sysops.aol.com>


<< 
http://trident3.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/34_triumph_x-75_hurricane-1000x6711.jpg(WS)

I think parts of it comes from growing up when these were NEW!>>

I know of a guy in Atlanta who has six of those BRAND NEW in his 
garage. He was a Triumph regional rep back when they were selling them, 
and he bought them with an inheritance, planning to race them. After 
racing one with no success, eh switched to Hondas and did pretty well.

Someday I am going to talk him into selling one to me.

--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun  2 22:00:42 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:00:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] "Visual Estimation" ONLY is enough for a ticket in
	Ohio
In-Reply-To: <4C06B1AC.1040208@ptd.net>
References: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>	<4C06A63B.2020201@ptd.net><AANLkTim_-iLG3KmOr1BuONHHEjfEJlnt0or8bNknlVmt@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C06B1AC.1040208@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <8CCD0B62DDB3266-16E8-1D56@webmail-d064.sysops.aol.com>


<<Who says you cant tape your first example?  My understanding under PA 
law as long as you are in public and dont have an expectation of 
privacy, you can tape.>>

Tell that to the cop while he is smashing your teeth in.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun  2 22:17:10 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:17:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] "Visual Estimation" ONLY is enough for a ticket in
 Ohio
In-Reply-To: <8CCD0B62DDB3266-16E8-1D56@webmail-d064.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTik0fbGDA9xlovid8fhe40P-CqiV_JUQPQoP3DZZ@mail.gmail.com>	<4C06A63B.2020201@ptd.net><AANLkTim_-iLG3KmOr1BuONHHEjfEJlnt0or8bNknlVmt@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C06B1AC.1040208@ptd.net>
	<8CCD0B62DDB3266-16E8-1D56@webmail-d064.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C06D866.6060709@ptd.net>

Tom Cutter wrote:
>
> <<Who says you cant tape your first example?  My understanding under 
> PA law as long as you are in public and dont have an expectation of 
> privacy, you can tape.>>
>
> Tell that to the cop while he is smashing your teeth in.
>
>
We went through this before.  And still you dont get it.  The legality 
is I CAN TAPE POLICE in PA.  Yeah, I may get smashed teeth, but in the 
end, the cop will be dismissed or place on paper duty, I will own the 
town, and I will have false teeth.

Chris Jaccarino

From rsorens at comcast.net  Wed Jun  2 22:27:18 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 18:27:18 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] "Visual Estimation" ONLY is enough for a ticket in
	Ohio
In-Reply-To: <4C06D866.6060709@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <DA0B35AAD57945A7A9EE89AD341B7482@Tekki>

>....and I will have false teeth.

And who says Chris doesn't come out on top!


From piechota at argolis.org  Wed Jun  2 22:19:52 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:19:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: File syncing app on Windows
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikEEqob3np-ZR_ADYk88zB-IKaXLisQTnEnlu_D@mail.gmail.com>
References: <24A2E91A49FB4E49B6E737A44B369C80@9200c>
	<AANLkTikEEqob3np-ZR_ADYk88zB-IKaXLisQTnEnlu_D@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C06D908.7050600@argolis.org>

Wayne Woodruff wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Just thought I'd pass on this info, and my endorsement for this free
>> product:
> 
> [snippage]
>> You can get SyncToy at:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=C26EFA36-98E0-4EE9-A7C5-98D0592D8C52&displaylang=en
>>
>> Note: SyncToy is *NOT* suitable for backing up you boot volume because it
>> does not back up registry data. There are much better apps for this.
>>
> 
> I've been using a product called PureSync for some time now.  Free for
> personal use.  The Professional version is 14.95E, which is ~$18.24.
> 
> http://www.jumpingbytes.com/en/puresync.html
> 
> Just another data point in the infinite toilet bowl of information
> 

What's wrong with rsync? :) :)

From piechota at argolis.org  Wed Jun  2 22:31:27 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:31:27 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <9239759.1275508803790.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <9239759.1275508803790.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4C06DBBF.1000609@argolis.org>

Jim Sterling wrote:
>> I know this is the common wisdom (as experienced by Gerry), but if the 
>> in-rush current (on the particular kit I'm looking at) is specified as 
>> 4.5A, and the steady-state current is less than that, what's the problem?
> 
> the switches are good for less then 4.5 Amps.. way less...

How can that be?  That's how much current is being drawn thru it with 
the stock headlight, no? (55W/12V == 4.58A).

The point (I think) I'm making is that some kits (possibly the early 
and/or cheap ones) probably just let the ballast draw whatever it 
wanted, directly thru the switch.  After customers started bitching 
about blown switches, they put a current limiter on the ballast so it 
couldn't draw a ton of current at start up.  I'm not practiced enough at 
EE to know what the inductive load may be doing to the switch. 
Certainly something to think about.

For better or worse, I don't have a CANBUS bike so that's not a problem.

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 22:52:20 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 18:52:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <4C06DBBF.1000609@argolis.org>
References: <9239759.1275508803790.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4C06DBBF.1000609@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimwstLHgl7HgKV0QPo8f9aZ-COubS32hBSEVHZU@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/2/10, Matt Piechota <piechota at argolis.org> wrote:
> Jim Sterling wrote:
>  >> I know this is the common wisdom (as experienced by Gerry), but if the
>  >> in-rush current (on the particular kit I'm looking at) is specified as
>  >> 4.5A, and the steady-state current is less than that, what's the problem?
>  >
>  > the switches are good for less then 4.5 Amps.. way less...
>
> How can that be?  That's how much current is being drawn thru it with
>  the stock headlight, no? (55W/12V == 4.58A).

Have you read the reports of HL switch failures with that "only"
4.58A?  There IS a reason that HL relays are the SMART person's
installation.  Along with more light out of any HL you have.

>  For better or worse, I don't have a CANBUS bike so that's not a problem.

SNORK...  If you are running the HL current through the handlebar
switches it IS your problem.

The Canbus bikes don't.  IME the lights seem to be brighter on them.
I "think" it is due to more volts at the bulb terminals.


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From jasiii at earthlink.net  Wed Jun  2 23:07:45 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 19:07:45 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
Message-ID: <3647378.1275520065763.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>> the switches are good for less then 4.5 Amps.. way less...
>
>How can that be?  That's how much current is being drawn thru it with 
>the stock headlight, no? (55W/12V == 4.58A).
>
>For better or worse, I don't have a CANBUS bike so that's not a problem.

Cutting from an web site http://www.bcae1.com/relays.htm that puts a lot of this stuff in plain English

In a DC relay coil, the coil resistance determines the current flow through the coil. The current draw by the coil of a bosch relay is ~0.160 amps (~75 ohm coil). In an AC relay coil, the resistance does not solely determine the current flow through the coil because the coil has inductance. The inductive reactance along with the DC resistance work together to limit the current flow through the coil. 

I do know the switches are designed for a very light current load.. not just CANBUS but all bikes.. using a relay cuts the current down to a lot less  5 amps vrs .16 amps or about 1/30 of the load.. 

with lights or horns or vests I have always used relays.. they just reduce the switch current load.
Relays are a lot cheaper then switches $5 to $10 vrs $150+ 

Just good practice

Jim



James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From piechota at argolis.org  Wed Jun  2 22:42:59 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:42:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Labrador Chicken out plan
Message-ID: <4C06DE73.6090603@argolis.org>

For those thinking of the ride and possibly chickening out when the 
pavement (myself included), there's a ferry from Baie-Comeau, QC (north 
shore of St Lawrence, where the road turns North to Labrador City) to 
Matane, QC (south shore).  From there you can ride down thru New 
Brunswick and Nova Scotia and ferry to Newfoundland.  This route should 
have no dirt or gravel to speak of.

Remember the mantra: some guy did it 2-up on a loaded bagger with a 
trailer, WTF is my problem?

From corey.lyba at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 00:16:10 2010
From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 20:16:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID's
Message-ID: <AANLkTinC62km0F0kxbQBHPHRxPNIhVT_zzEjw9NVm0iW@mail.gmail.com>

Okay, since I opened a huge can of worms on the list, her's what I've
found that looks good.

http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-35W-55W-Dual-Motorcycle-HID-Kit

http://www.xenonrider.com/products/h7_xenon_hid_kits.shtml

http://www.motorcyclehidlights.com/bmw-r1200gs-hid-lights-c-68_513/digital-hid-kit-slim-ballasts-p-209

The xenon kit actually offers a Can-bus ballast upgrade, but not in
the slim form. The DDMtuning ones are just plain cheap. For 40 bucks,
who knows how long they will last.

From wayne at 2zars.com  Thu Jun  3 00:36:12 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 20:36:12 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Rate My Cop
Message-ID: <55ud069bavu415dbr2g6a5smvnpv5css3p@4ax.com>


http://ratemycop.com/
(WS)

Allows you to view ratings of officers from various police
depaertments all over the country.  


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Thu Jun  3 01:09:28 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:09:28 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Rate My Cop
In-Reply-To: <55ud069bavu415dbr2g6a5smvnpv5css3p@4ax.com>
References: <55ud069bavu415dbr2g6a5smvnpv5css3p@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <4C0700C8.9010203@ptd.net>

Wayne Woodruff wrote:
> http://ratemycop.com/
> (WS)
>
> Allows you to view ratings of officers from various police
> depaertments all over the country.  
>
>
>   
Exxxxxxxxxcellent!

Chris Jaccarino

From misevich at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 01:31:08 2010
From: misevich at gmail.com (Dave Misevich)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 21:31:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil-ftx1rF5sCSIYnA-yQfKDsi4xX6gD16K_XYG3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C82BEF28.41D0%jasiii@earthlink.net>
	<4C06A5D0.5080005@argolis.org> 
	<AANLkTil-ftx1rF5sCSIYnA-yQfKDsi4xX6gD16K_XYG3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinYdt-6BRNAnxbrIVPzXUNDrBCQ2xqrsZ9jckMD@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> Another part of it might be that you are feeding a "ballast" that
> might have a nice big inductive kick. ?Inductive kicks are HORRIBLE on
> switch contacts. ?Just HORRIBLE.

I bet you're onto something there Brian. Inductive loads don't like to
be interrupted, the inductance will raise the voltage to prevent it
and cause an arc. That's how arc welders work.

No data, but I think that switching the light off or from low to high
beam could cause more damage than the start up current.

--
Dave Misevich
Dexter, MI
'85 K100RT
'98 R1100RT

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 02:20:54 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:20:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Roddy,
	you got something like this for when there is something BAD close
	to where you need to cut?
Message-ID: <AANLkTikBf1UU-gVtlksd0fKAUtqlWBc1DV9JYzakNLnH@mail.gmail.com>

http://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/129191142848626863.jpg
(WS, very unless you are OSHA)

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 02:22:03 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:22:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: If you are a Mercury car fan, gett'm while you can....
Message-ID: <AANLkTik2ZmcFbUFhBTpiirRG73IwVRufNp49A17vCJjb@mail.gmail.com>

http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2010/06/02/ford-confirms-rumors-it-will-shut-down-mercury/
(WS)

"People who work in or follow the car industry have been predicting
the demise of Ford?s Mercury division for years. So it is no surprise
to hear today that Ford will kill its middle-of-the-road brand by
year?s end."

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From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Thu Jun  3 02:24:53 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 22:24:53 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT or not (It does have three wheels): Mentos and
	Coke	"Rocket Vehicle"
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimncPnt4V_JNdOPafAHQZBXuIwowhO6uZDm5jww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C06DA35.25464.22BA140@localhost>



> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-hXcRtbj1Y
> (WS)
> 
> Good thing that the operator was wearing the proper protective gear.
> They need a better initiation and release mechanism.  More range that
> way.  They lost some propulsion forces while latched.
> 
That was cool.

> Some will know where this was shot.  VERY impressive videography of
> it.
> 

I believe that is Moffet field in CA.

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 02:34:59 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:34:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT or not (It does have three wheels): Mentos and
	Coke "Rocket Vehicle"
In-Reply-To: <4C06DA35.25464.22BA140@localhost>
References: <AANLkTimncPnt4V_JNdOPafAHQZBXuIwowhO6uZDm5jww@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C06DA35.25464.22BA140@localhost>
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On 6/2/10, Joe Dille <joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us> wrote:
>  > Some will know where this was shot.  VERY impressive videography of
>  > it.
>  >
>
>
> I believe that is Moffet field in CA.

Yup, what started at Blimp, or Dirigible Hangers.  They were "plenty
of overhead room" for the P3s when they flew out of there.

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From stringsmith at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  3 02:24:52 2010
From: stringsmith at yahoo.com (Scott Fillman)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 19:24:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Roddy,
	you got something like this for when there is something BAD close
	to where you need to cut?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikBf1UU-gVtlksd0fKAUtqlWBc1DV9JYzakNLnH@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <396760.7103.qm@web113604.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I like how the cutting device is attached, yet removable.

Scott Fillman
R1150GS

--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Brian Curry 
 OT: Roddy, you got something like this for when there is something BAD close to where you need to cut?




      

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Thu Jun  3 03:09:15 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 23:09:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] States Race w/Matt
Message-ID: <4C06E49B.15180.25440EE@localhost>

Last weekend Matt and I went up to Syracuse NY to compete in the QMA 
region 2 championship races (a.k.a States Race).  This is a national 
style event held in each region.  The Syracuse track is unique as it 
is 1/10 mile long vs the typical 1/20 mile.  The track is also very 
flat.  This places an emphasis on the driver's skill and the car's 
set up vs raw power.

Matt and I had a great time.  He raced very well.  Here are two very 
short videos of two of his races.

http://home.jtan.com/~joe/images/mrd_sr_honda_c_main_large.wmv
This is the Sr. Honda C-main.  Matt it the blue car with white frame 
that is second in line at the very beginning.  He is #5 and lines up 
5th when they are single file, then is 3rd on the inside when they 
are double file.  The pack makes a couple extra laps as the last two 
cars were out of order.  

Turn #4 is the near turn on the right of the screen.  When the sound 
is up you can hear when they start.  Matt gets a great start and 
leads for the first 1/3 of the race.  Unfortunately there were two 
faster cars that started in the back and finished ahead of him.  He 
finished 3rd in the race.  He transferred to the B-main where he got 
2nd and then to the A-main where he got 8th.  

He may have done better, but he lost a spring stop when he flipped 
and I was not able to put it back during the race.

http://home.jtan.com/~joe/images/mrd_lt_160_c_main.wmv
This is the Light 160 C-main.  Matt is starting 2nd in the red car.  
Again he got a great start.  Unfortunately he finished 6th mostly due 
to poor suspension set up which precipitated a spin.  Only the top 5 
cars transfer so this was his last race in the 160.

Race Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From chrisjac at ptd.net  Thu Jun  3 03:18:56 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 23:18:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:  External Hard Drives
In-Reply-To: <8CCD08AEBF1A2B3-B9C-21A@webmail-m023.sysops.aol.com>
References: <4C05AA2D.6070601@ptd.net>
	<8CCD08AEBF1A2B3-B9C-21A@webmail-m023.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C071F20.7060200@ptd.net>

One more quick question on external hard drives......do the drives run 
"harder" if they are USB powered vs. separately powered to a 110 v plug?

Chris Jaccarino

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 03:23:11 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 23:23:11 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] States Race w/Matt
In-Reply-To: <4C06E49B.15180.25440EE@localhost>
References: <4C06E49B.15180.25440EE@localhost>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilLZPW9EN6lhtlQKCQD3LCYvyCGf_k4Xg6Jrq_N@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Joe:

Matt is a great driver. He races with skill balanced with discretion.
Yet he has lost a number of times due to malfunctions beyond your
control. Rather than having you work on Matt's car, shouldn't you just
take it to Cutter. All mem should know their limitations.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From piechota at argolis.org  Thu Jun  3 03:53:11 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 23:53:11 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:  External Hard Drives
In-Reply-To: <4C071F20.7060200@ptd.net>
References: <4C05AA2D.6070601@ptd.net>
	<8CCD08AEBF1A2B3-B9C-21A@webmail-m023.sysops.aol.com>
	<4C071F20.7060200@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <4C072727.3090303@argolis.org>

Chris wrote:
> One more quick question on external hard drives......do the drives run 
> "harder" if they are USB powered vs. separately powered to a 110 v plug?

The mains powered device will likely just have a mains to 5VDC 
wall-wart, so it doesn't really matter.  What does matter is some USB 
ports don't supply the spec 500mA and/or some drives want more power 
than that so it can be dicey.  Once you narrow down what you want, start 
looking around for reviews that mention whether the drive works on just 
USB power, and if possible if anyone has problems with you PC's USB ports.

Some drives now ship with a 'dual-plug' USB cable that uses one USB port 
for power and a second for data+power to ensure it gets enough juice. 
The cable usually has a pass-thru on the power-only plug so you can 
still use a low-power device (mouse, USB flash, etc.) at the same time.

From piechota at argolis.org  Thu Jun  3 03:57:54 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 23:57:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimwstLHgl7HgKV0QPo8f9aZ-COubS32hBSEVHZU@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9239759.1275508803790.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4C06DBBF.1000609@argolis.org>
	<AANLkTimwstLHgl7HgKV0QPo8f9aZ-COubS32hBSEVHZU@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C072842.5050401@argolis.org>

Brian Curry wrote:
> Have you read the reports of HL switch failures with that "only"
> 4.58A?  There IS a reason that HL relays are the SMART person's
> installation.  Along with more light out of any HL you have.
[SNIP]
> SNORK...  If you are running the HL current through the handlebar
> switches it IS your problem.

I wasn't counting on BMW using defective switches (by definition if the 
switches are failing using the original lamp and wiring).  I haven't 
heard much about it, to be honest, but I'll take your word for it.

> The Canbus bikes don't.  IME the lights seem to be brighter on them.
> I "think" it is due to more volts at the bulb terminals.

By most reports, the ground wire from the headlight socket to the frame 
is wimpy.  Most people that put a relay in claim significant improvement 
even with the stock headlight.

From Braveirwin at aol.com  Thu Jun  3 11:04:25 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:04:25 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Roddy,
	you got something like this for when there is someth...
Message-ID: <276ea.82533e2.3938e639@aol.com>



In a message dated 6/2/2010 10:21:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
bmwbrian at gmail.com writes:

http://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/129191142848626863.jpg
==================================================
 
Hey, really nice red neck pole saw. But where did he get that nice  
tractor?  Roddy.


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From corey.lyba at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 11:28:20 2010
From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:28:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: HID's
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Corey Lyba <corey.lyba at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:16 PM
Subject: HID's
To: MAC PAC List <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>


Okay, since I opened a huge can of worms on the list, her's what I've
found that looks good.

http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-35W-55W-Dual-Motorcycle-HID-Kit

http://www.xenonrider.com/products/h7_xenon_hid_kits.shtml

http://www.motorcyclehidlights.com/bmw-r1200gs-hid-lights-c-68_513/digital-hid-kit-slim-ballasts-p-209

The xenon kit actually offers a Can-bus ballast upgrade, but not in
the slim form. The DDMtuning ones are just plain cheap. For 40 bucks,
who knows how long they will last.

From Doug at pencader.com  Thu Jun  3 12:13:44 2010
From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 08:13:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikLMoP9CXbZO7cU0V23nI5Nb4nVj-RszbSug238@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9239759.1275508803790.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<AANLkTikLMoP9CXbZO7cU0V23nI5Nb4nVj-RszbSug238@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <015001cb0316$38cd65e0$aa6831a0$@com>

Gerry wrote;

>>> snips

> Failed to mention in my earlier email but Tourotech did not recommend
> the relay when I purchased my HID but modified their paperwork shortly

>>> snips

> Still love the light however.  As usual the problems are long forgotten.

>>> end

Someone on the list recommend this guy (and his site) as somewhat of a
lighting wizard, as I recall;

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/

Best to all,

Doug
'01 1150 GSP
Bear, DE




From tpcutter at aol.com  Thu Jun  3 12:33:49 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 08:33:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:  External Hard Drives
In-Reply-To: <4C071F20.7060200@ptd.net>
References: <4C05AA2D.6070601@ptd.net><8CCD08AEBF1A2B3-B9C-21A@webmail-m023.sysops.aol.com>
	<4C071F20.7060200@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <8CCD13026B66B02-18B4-51C5@webmail-d083.sysops.aol.com>


<<One more quick question on external hard drives......do the drives 
run "harder" if they are USB powered vs. separately powered to a 110 v 
plug?>>

When I hook up with a USB, the drive just sits there and works. If I 
connect 110V direct, it hovers 6" above the desk, shooting out little 
puffs of smoke. When I cross-wired it to get 220V, it shot out the 
window and killed two nuns in a passing van.

Now I use a double-USB connector like Matt mentioned, and the drive 
does wheelies across my desk.


--?
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Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

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From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 12:43:55 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 08:43:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: External Hard Drives
In-Reply-To: <4C05AA2D.6070601@ptd.net>
References: <4C05AA2D.6070601@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim2ZDNxNxjHx16XyxvC9OG0sffOYD1pZn5-6vJh@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Chris <chrisjac at ptd.net> wrote:
> Am almost afraid to ask, ?but any opinions on what brands to buy and
> what brands to stay away from? ? I probably need about 500 GB storage.
> Also, does it do me any good to get a "network drive" unit (to plug into
> router) even though my router is used simply as a physical firewall for
> my cable modem and not really for a network?


It all depends...what exactly are you using the drive for? Backup,
additional storage, etc.? Are there other computers on your network
that would benefit from access to this storage device if it were
accessible over the network? Are there other things you 'd find to be
a nice convenience like having your hard drive act as a print server,
media center, etc.?


-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Thu Jun  3 12:57:25 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 08:57:25 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:  External Hard Drives
Message-ID: <3014907.1275569845771.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] OT:  External Hard Drives
>
>One more quick question on external hard drives......do the drives run 
>"harder" if they are USB powered vs. separately powered to a 110 v plug?
>
>Chris Jaccarino

My $.000003 ... if the drive is going just to be used with a desktop as a backup device then get a drive with a power brick/supply... if the drive is going to be used with a laptop, sometimes away from a power source then get one that runs off of the USB port,  

Hope this helps

Jim

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 13:29:45 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 09:29:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] You guys and gals are slacking...
Message-ID: <AANLkTilt_TQifDomTVxGZhpHBI30zzcGaKJky92B9c9n@mail.gmail.com>

We nearly had a year with over 1000 posts a month.  May ran 24 posts
short...  It was "only 976" posts.

I talked to the list admin at Micapeak.com who hosts a LOT of moto
related lists.   This list would run in the top 5 lists for activity
if we were there.

Just FYI.

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From ephoet at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 16:18:08 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:18:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <3647378.1275520065763.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <3647378.1275520065763.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilhpM8rrOIbkkViPqEPru5Y4bO_wyVSniucLpvL@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Jim Sterling <jasiii at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> the switches are good for less then 4.5 Amps.. way less...
>>
>>How can that be? ?That's how much current is being drawn thru it with
>>the stock headlight, no? (55W/12V == 4.58A).
>>
>>For better or worse, I don't have a CANBUS bike so that's not a problem.
>
> Cutting from an web site http://www.bcae1.com/relays.htm that puts a lot of this stuff in plain English
>
> In a DC relay coil, the coil resistance determines the current flow through the coil. The current draw by the coil of a bosch relay is ~0.160 amps (~75 ohm coil). In an AC relay coil, the resistance does not solely determine the current flow through the coil because the coil has inductance. The inductive reactance along with the DC resistance work together to limit the current flow through the coil.
>
> I do know the switches are designed for a very light current load.. not just CANBUS but all bikes.. using a relay cuts the current down to a lot less ?5 amps vrs .16 amps or about 1/30 of the load..
>
> with lights or horns or vests I have always used relays.. they just reduce the switch current load.
> Relays are a lot cheaper then switches $5 to $10 vrs $150+
>
> Just good practice
>

> _______________________________________________


Nice pictorial link, thanks Jim!

There is a reason switches, relays, contacts etc have an AC and DC
rating.  They fail,  if you you fail to follow those limitations.
  Whether you choose to understand the issue or not.

An HID ballast is a rather large inductive load hanging out there, and
they give quite a kick particularly when turning off.  ("inrush" works
both ways).  It can and will weld the contacts on switches not rated
for that duty.  or arc them to the point of high resistance (IOW, its
no longer a working switch)

Quoting from the link below:

"Most damage to switches is done during the breaking of a
circuit where an arc forms in the widening gap. Depending
on contact spreading velocity -AND- thermal mass of the
contacts, this can be the most stressful task for switching.
However, this is when the contacts are getting farther apart
. . an improbable scenario for welding.

The physics for closing a circuit are different. Here, potentially
high inrush currents are impressed across contacts that
may have small hills and valleys eroded in them from
previous switch openings. These little hills become potential
welding material when the large inrush current is forced to
flow through a small cross section of material. This can
happen to any switch with either DC or AC."

As mentioned, for DC circuits you have the option of installing a
diode suppressor (quenching diode) around the coil, positive side
(bar) facing the + side of the circuit.  For AC circuits an RCsnubber
can be installed  (Capacitor with resistor in series).  Both tend to
"short" out high frequency components and protect the rest of the
circuit.  But they have to be installed close to the coil.  Doesn't
eliminate the inrush, does reduce the resulting voltage transient when
opening the switch.

http://www.matronics.com/aerois electric/articles/Switch_Ratings.pdf

HTH

Erik H

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 16:59:17 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:59:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilhpM8rrOIbkkViPqEPru5Y4bO_wyVSniucLpvL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3647378.1275520065763.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<AANLkTilhpM8rrOIbkkViPqEPru5Y4bO_wyVSniucLpvL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilGok0wgJz1NchzVeYxuyqa9prDaO1G8X7QrARL@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/3/10, Erik Hoet <ephoet at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Jim Sterling <jasiii at earthlink.net> wrote:
>  There is a reason switches, relays, contacts etc have an AC and DC
>  rating.  They fail,  if you you fail to follow those limitations.
>   Whether you choose to understand the issue or not.

Since an AC current goes through zero current 120 times a second the
AC ratings are generally higher.

>  As mentioned, for DC circuits you have the option of installing a
>  diode suppressor (quenching diode) around the coil, positive side
>  (bar) facing the + side of the circuit.  For AC circuits an RCsnubber
>  can be installed  (Capacitor with resistor in series).  Both tend to
>  "short" out high frequency components and protect the rest of the
>  circuit.

They protect the CONTROL circuit.  However, the switched circuit can
have additional problems due to them.

The shunt diode tends to slow the rate the main contacts open at.
Rather than NOW, it is "ladi da we will get to open".  This tends to
lengthen the time that arcing is taking place, affecting the main
contacts in a not good way.

TANSTAAFL

  But they have to be installed close to the coil.  Doesn't
>  eliminate the inrush, does reduce the resulting voltage transient when
>  opening the switch

Control circuit voltage transcient.  Switched side can still be UGLY,
but the contacts ARE larger and they are far better protected.
.

>  http://www.matronics.com/aerois electric/articles/Switch_Ratings.pdf

Something is busted in that URL and I am not sure what it is, having
visited the site.

http://www.matronics.com/
brings up a lot different view than Erik's URL

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 17:27:53 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:27:53 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil8nHef-xCfA39l_y3Dj1id-VfP872izBvbEXtR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3647378.1275520065763.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<AANLkTilhpM8rrOIbkkViPqEPru5Y4bO_wyVSniucLpvL@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilGok0wgJz1NchzVeYxuyqa9prDaO1G8X7QrARL@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil8nHef-xCfA39l_y3Dj1id-VfP872izBvbEXtR@mail.gmail.com>
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On 6/3/10, Erik Hoet <ephoet at gmail.com> wrote:
> Try this w/o the mailer in between
>
>
>
>  > Something is busted in that URL and I am not sure what it is, having
>  > visited the site.
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric/articles/Switch_Ratings.pdf

Someone please check this.  I can' t from here.  I can see where the
space was removed and it does work direct.

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From jasiii at earthlink.net  Thu Jun  3 17:48:35 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:48:35 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
Message-ID: <22304315.1275587316133.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
>
>On 6/3/10, Erik Hoet <ephoet at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Try this w/o the mailer in between
>>
>>  > Something is busted in that URL and I am not sure what it is, having
>>  > visited the site.
>>
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric/articles/Switch_Ratings.pdf
>
>Someone please check this.  I can' t from here.  I can see where the
>space was removed and it does work direct.
>
Worked for me .. downloaded a pdf and opened Adobe 

Good Article..  AC vs DC and current loads.. 

Jim 

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From ephoet at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 17:55:50 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:55:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Table saw estop (OT, ok?)
Message-ID: <AANLkTilpCJzTaTjLMNZL5AgiTjYZG6AcInUC_d2hiwum@mail.gmail.com>

If you have never seen "Time Warp," it's a show all about super-duper
slow motion cameras capturing things we take for granted and never see
as they really are.  In this case, they take photos of this guy's new
invention.

Table Saw automatic safety stop.  Literally stops on a dime.  Er, finger

 http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=E3mzhvMgrLE&NR=1

EPH

From piechota at argolis.org  Thu Jun  3 23:20:24 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:20:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] HID lights
In-Reply-To: <015001cb0316$38cd65e0$aa6831a0$@com>
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Doug wrote:
> Gerry wrote;
> 
>>>> snips
> 
>> Failed to mention in my earlier email but Tourotech did not recommend
>> the relay when I purchased my HID but modified their paperwork shortly
> 
>>>> snips
> 
>> Still love the light however.  As usual the problems are long forgotten.
> 
>>>> end
> 
> Someone on the list recommend this guy (and his site) as somewhat of a
> lighting wizard, as I recall;
> 
> http://www.danielsternlighting.com/

Yep, I mentioned it.  It should be pointed out that he's trying to sell 
fancy halogen lamps, so there's an agenda.  No less agenda than the HID 
folks trying to sell their kits, I suppose.  Who knows who is lying more.

I forget if it's that site, but there are a few 'nuggets' of info that I 
truly think make sense:
1> If you're actually worried about *seeing* more than looking cool, you 
shouldn't go past a color temperature of 5000K or so.  Any light above 
that the eye isn't as sensitive to so you'd need more power for the same 
effective brightness.  4300K, I believe, is rather like 'daylight', 
which (funnily) is what the eye sees best.

2> You really don't want light flooding all over the place.  The nearby 
brightness causes your eyes to adjust, but then you can't see very well 
into the further darkness.  Think of it like standing in a brightly lit 
hallway.  You won't be able to see much of anything in a dark room at 
the end of that hallway since your pupils are shrunk.  If you had a 
flashlight, you'd see most of what's in the hallway but also into the 
room at the end.  Floods may seem like 'wow, there's a ton on light! I 
can see everything!' but you're probably fooling yourself.  If you look 
at racing fog lights (like for rally cars), they make lots of different 
profiles to throw light were you need it.  See pinpoint spots, floods, etc.

I think HID is a good idea, but it would seem that there's more to it 
than just sticking a capsule into a bucket (if you approach it as a geek 
like I do).

From tpcutter at aol.com  Thu Jun  3 23:23:56 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:23:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: File syncing app on Windows
In-Reply-To: <24A2E91A49FB4E49B6E737A44B369C80@9200c>
References: <24A2E91A49FB4E49B6E737A44B369C80@9200c>
Message-ID: <8CCD18AF8B7A4DD-4964-3ED5@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com>

Steve-

I'm a computer idiot. My kids remind me all the time.

However, I have a ton of data files like articles I have written., 
photos, etc., loaded onto a backup drive. I have updated versions of 
those folders, where I have added more stuff, on my laptop hard drive. 
Can I use this software to "overwrite" the folders on my back up drive 
and put all the stuff from my laptop onto the backup drive without just 
makign a second copy of everything?

I mean,say I have File A, File B, File C and File D on my backup, and 
in my laptop, in an identically-named folder called "Tom's Stupendous 
Files". I write File E, File F, and File G to my laptop, and stick them 
into my "Tom's Stupendous Files." Then I delete File B from my laptop 
folder called "Tom's Stupendous Files". Still with me?

Now, will this software look at that file, see that File B still exists 
on the backup drive and KEEP it there, as well as adding Files E, F and 
G to the backup, without screwing up the other older files?

What if I modify File A in my laptop? What will the software do to the 
copy on my backup? Update it or make a separate file for the updated 
one?

My head hurts. Multiply this times ten thousand and you have the mess 
that is my computer filing system. @When I had a memory like an 
elephant, it was no problem. I could remember the file names of 
thousands of files and where I had put them. Now I have the memory of a 
goldfish. It's harder now, I have the memory of a goldfish.




--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 23:29:46 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 19:29:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: File syncing app on Windows
In-Reply-To: <8CCD18AF8B7A4DD-4964-3ED5@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com>
References: <24A2E91A49FB4E49B6E737A44B369C80@9200c>
	<8CCD18AF8B7A4DD-4964-3ED5@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinnVKD0Iq_rBv-ZOGJslSSHpZ6uLXyDEieGZdcT@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/3/10, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:

>  I mean,say I have File A, File B, File C and File D on my backup, and
>  in my laptop, in an identically-named folder called "Tom's Stupendous
>  Files". I write File E, File F, and File G to my laptop, and stick them
>  into my "Tom's Stupendous Files." Then I delete File B from my laptop
>  folder called "Tom's Stupendous Files". Still with me?
>
>  Now, will this software look at that file, see that File B still exists
>  on the backup drive and KEEP it there, as well as adding Files E, F and
>  G to the backup, without screwing up the other older files?

There are tools that will do "file compare" on a HD.  Telling you
which are dupes and where they are.  I dunno if they have
consolidation tools or whether you have to do some thing manually.

Hopefully Steve knows what the tools are.

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From wateredg at interlog.com  Fri Jun  4 00:07:59 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:07:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: File syncing app on Windows
References: <24A2E91A49FB4E49B6E737A44B369C80@9200c>
	<8CCD18AF8B7A4DD-4964-3ED5@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <493D0F911CC4436FB1F296285992E4E9@9200c>

Hello Tom,

> From: "Tom Cutter" <tpcutter at aol.com>
>  I'm a computer idiot. My kids remind me all the time.
>
> However, I have a ton of data files like articles I have written., photos, 
> etc., loaded onto a backup drive. I have updated versions of those 
> folders, where I have added more stuff, on my laptop hard drive. Can I use 
> this software to "overwrite" the folders on my back up drive and put all 
> the stuff from my laptop onto the backup drive without just makign a 
> second copy of everything?
>
> I mean,say I have File A, File B, File C and File D on my backup, and in 
> my laptop, in an identically-named folder called "Tom's Stupendous Files". 
> I write File E, File F, and File G to my laptop, and stick them into my 
> "Tom's Stupendous Files." Then I delete File B from my laptop folder 
> called "Tom's Stupendous Files". Still with me?
>
> Now, will this software look at that file, see that File B still exists on 
> the backup drive and KEEP it there, as well as adding Files E, F and G to 
> the backup, without screwing up the other older files?
>
> What if I modify File A in my laptop? What will the software do to the 
> copy on my backup? Update it or make a separate file for the updated one?
>
> My head hurts. Multiply this times ten thousand and you have the mess that 
> is my computer filing system. @When I had a memory like an elephant, it 
> was no problem. I could remember the file names of thousands of files and 
> where I had put them. Now I have the memory of a goldfish. It's harder 
> now, I have the memory of a goldfish.

When you set up SyncToy, you define two folders that "relate" to each other, 
and then you define the operation you want to perform.
 (1) Synchronize: Stuff can change in either folder, so
      take the latest copy and move it to the other folder
 (2) Echo: Whatever you do in the source folder, echo in
      the target forlder. Includes renaming subfolders and
      files, deleting subfolders and files, adding and changing
      files.
 (3) Contribute: New and updated files are copied to the
      target. Renames on the source are repeated on the
      target. Ignores deletions.

For more info, you can download the white paper:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=50FA5932-0685-4FE3-9605-536F39BD6C86&displaylang=en

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada 


From wateredg at interlog.com  Fri Jun  4 00:11:21 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:11:21 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: File syncing app on Windows
References: <24A2E91A49FB4E49B6E737A44B369C80@9200c><8CCD18AF8B7A4DD-4964-3ED5@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTinnVKD0Iq_rBv-ZOGJslSSHpZ6uLXyDEieGZdcT@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B67CA267B5554D3C8CDC0D95C4099182@9200c>

Hello Tom,

From: "Brian Curry" <bmwbrian at gmail.com>

> On 6/3/10, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>  I mean,say I have File A, File B, File C and File D on my backup, and
>>  in my laptop, in an identically-named folder called "Tom's Stupendous
>>  Files". I write File E, File F, and File G to my laptop, and stick them
>>  into my "Tom's Stupendous Files." Then I delete File B from my laptop
>>  folder called "Tom's Stupendous Files". Still with me?
>>
>>  Now, will this software look at that file, see that File B still exists
>>  on the backup drive and KEEP it there, as well as adding Files E, F and
>>  G to the backup, without screwing up the other older files?
>
> There are tools that will do "file compare" on a HD.  Telling you
> which are dupes and where they are.  I dunno if they have
> consolidation tools or whether you have to do some thing manually.
>
> Hopefully Steve knows what the tools are.

Just to answer this specific question, SyncToy's "Contribute" feature will 
detect changed and new files on your laptop, and copy them to your external 
drive, overwriting older versions of the same files on the external drive. 
It will not delete anything on the external drive. I think this is what you 
want.

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 00:40:52 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:40:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: File syncing app on Windows
In-Reply-To: <B67CA267B5554D3C8CDC0D95C4099182@9200c>
References: <24A2E91A49FB4E49B6E737A44B369C80@9200c>
	<8CCD18AF8B7A4DD-4964-3ED5@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTinnVKD0Iq_rBv-ZOGJslSSHpZ6uLXyDEieGZdcT@mail.gmail.com>
	<B67CA267B5554D3C8CDC0D95C4099182@9200c>
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On 6/3/10, Steve Makohin <wateredg at interlog.com> wrote:
> Hello Tom,
>
>  From: "Brian Curry" <bmwbrian at gmail.com>
>
>
>  > On 6/3/10, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:
>  >
>  >>  I mean,say I have File A, File B, File C and File D on my backup, and
>  >>  in my laptop, in an identically-named folder called "Tom's Stupendous
>  >>  Files". I write File E, File F, and File G to my laptop, and stick them
>  >>  into my "Tom's Stupendous Files." Then I delete File B from my laptop
>  >>  folder called "Tom's Stupendous Files". Still with me?
>  >>
>  >>  Now, will this software look at that file, see that File B still exists
>  >>  on the backup drive and KEEP it there, as well as adding Files E, F and
>  >>  G to the backup, without screwing up the other older files?
>  >
>  > There are tools that will do "file compare" on a HD.  Telling you
>  > which are dupes and where they are.  I dunno if they have
>  > consolidation tools or whether you have to do some thing manually.
>  >
>  > Hopefully Steve knows what the tools are.
>
>
> Just to answer this specific question, SyncToy's "Contribute" feature will
>  detect changed and new files on your laptop, and copy them to your external
>  drive, overwriting older versions of the same files on the external drive.
>  It will not delete anything on the external drive. I think this is what you
>  want.

I don't think that is the case.  I "think" that he has copied from the
Laptop HD to the external HD the same files a few times, maybe putting
them in different folders with a date designator.  So, it becomes, he
has 5 copies of file "smert" and 3 copies of "flugnable" on the same
HD and is thinking "Why not consolidate everything down to one copy in
the folder named "The real deal 04 June 10"

Says the guy that feels that pain...

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From wateredg at interlog.com  Fri Jun  4 01:16:10 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 21:16:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: File syncing app on Windows
References: <24A2E91A49FB4E49B6E737A44B369C80@9200c><8CCD18AF8B7A4DD-4964-3ED5@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com><AANLkTinnVKD0Iq_rBv-ZOGJslSSHpZ6uLXyDEieGZdcT@mail.gmail.com><B67CA267B5554D3C8CDC0D95C4099182@9200c>
	<AANLkTilF-JJuD-r3YBuX_YVtWvYbqH3VmtkGHUPTCA_v@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CD0446DC4286475ABAF8A6F3B374F663@9200c>

Hello Brian,

From: "Brian Curry" <bmwbrian at gmail.com>

[...]
> I don't think that is the case.  I "think" that he has copied from the
> Laptop HD to the external HD the same files a few times, maybe putting
> them in different folders with a date designator.  So, it becomes, he
> has 5 copies of file "smert" and 3 copies of "flugnable" on the same
> HD and is thinking "Why not consolidate everything down to one copy in
> the folder named "The real deal 04 June 10"
>
> Says the guy that feels that pain...

My understanding, according to the White Paper, that SyncToy allows you to 
consolidate multiple copies of documents, and put the latest copy into a 
target folder. This feature was designed for folks with tons of digital 
images, and tons of duplicates, and wanting only the latest versions of 
"stuff" in one place.

I have not used this specific feature.

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada


From tpcutter at aol.com  Fri Jun  4 01:31:46 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 21:31:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: File syncing app on Windows
In-Reply-To: <B67CA267B5554D3C8CDC0D95C4099182@9200c>
References: <24A2E91A49FB4E49B6E737A44B369C80@9200c><8CCD18AF8B7A4DD-4964-3ED5@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTinnVKD0Iq_rBv-ZOGJslSSHpZ6uLXyDEieGZdcT@mail.gmail.com>
	<B67CA267B5554D3C8CDC0D95C4099182@9200c>
Message-ID: <8CCD19CD4A3A651-125C-EF34@webmail-d100.sysops.aol.com>


<<Just to answer this specific question, SyncToy's "Contribute" feature 
will detect changed and new files on your laptop, and copy them to your 
external drive, overwriting older versions of the same files on the 
external drive. It will not delete anything on the external drive. I 
think this is what you want.?>>

That is exactly what I want! Thanks so much for the very clear 
explanation.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???

From tpcutter at aol.com  Fri Jun  4 01:38:13 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 21:38:13 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: File syncing app on Windows
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilF-JJuD-r3YBuX_YVtWvYbqH3VmtkGHUPTCA_v@mail.gmail.com>
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<<I don't think that is the case.  I "think" that he has copied from 
theLaptop HD to the external HD the same files a few times, maybe 
puttingthem in different folders with a date designator.  So, it 
becomes, hehas 5 copies of file "smert" and 3 copies of "flugnable" on 
the sameHD and is thinking "Why not consolidate everything down to one 
copy inthe folder named "The real deal 04 June 10"Says the guy that 
feels that pain...>>

I can handle that duplication by going through one time and cleaning it 
up. Going forward, the software will be handy.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???

From wayne at 2zars.com  Fri Jun  4 02:05:56 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:05:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: File syncing app on Windows
In-Reply-To: <CD0446DC4286475ABAF8A6F3B374F663@9200c>
References: <24A2E91A49FB4E49B6E737A44B369C80@9200c><8CCD18AF8B7A4DD-4964-3ED5@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com><AANLkTinnVKD0Iq_rBv-ZOGJslSSHpZ6uLXyDEieGZdcT@mail.gmail.com><B67CA267B5554D3C8CDC0D95C4099182@9200c>
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	<CD0446DC4286475ABAF8A6F3B374F663@9200c>
Message-ID: <23ng06ppi74lrkimsoc810dj3qp7cp5ere@4ax.com>


>
>My understanding, according to the White Paper, that SyncToy allows you to 
>consolidate multiple copies of documents, and put the latest copy into a 
>target folder. This feature was designed for folks with tons of digital 
>images, and tons of duplicates, and wanting only the latest versions of 
>"stuff" in one place.
>
>I have not used this specific feature.
>

This is exactly why I use Adobe Lightroom.  It has a configuration
management system that allows you to view the effects of each change
and undo changes.  

You can also make 'virtual' copys of photos so your can process them
differently if so desired.  For instance, you might have a shot that
you like in color and monochrome.  Make a virtual copy and strip the
color.  You now have 2 versions of the same photo without the overhead
of a second (large) file.  

I will look at sync toys as well.  



Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From mrmevans at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 02:15:56 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:15:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: File syncing app on Windows
In-Reply-To: <8CCD19DBB697945-125C-EFFD@webmail-d100.sysops.aol.com>
References: <24A2E91A49FB4E49B6E737A44B369C80@9200c>
	<8CCD18AF8B7A4DD-4964-3ED5@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTinnVKD0Iq_rBv-ZOGJslSSHpZ6uLXyDEieGZdcT@mail.gmail.com>
	<B67CA267B5554D3C8CDC0D95C4099182@9200c>
	<AANLkTilF-JJuD-r3YBuX_YVtWvYbqH3VmtkGHUPTCA_v@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCD19DBB697945-125C-EFFD@webmail-d100.sysops.aol.com>
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Every external hard drive I ever bought came with some software for
automatically backing up my files, as opposed to me physically
dragging them across to the hard drive when I remember to do so.

The Maxtor drive I have at my office computer has a utility I like
best. I simply told it which places on my computer to back up. At the
scheduled times (or when I kick it off manually) it scans the
locations I specified (such as c:\My Documents\) and identifies any
new files or files that have changed. It then copies the new/changed
files over to the external drive. In the event of a changed file, it
puts the earlier version of the file into an archive. It maintains in
the archive up to 5 prior revisions of each file (number set by me) so
on my external drive I have my latest version of my file, plus the
four prior versions of that same file (if they exist).

So for example I have a file called ClientAd.pdf - this is the fourth
version of this file.

The client wants one last round of changes. I make them and save. The
backup utility copies the version 5 of that file onto my backup drive
and move version 4 to an archive (where I presumably also have
versions 1 thru 3 also stored.

If I delete a file from my computer, it may or may not delete the same
from my external drive depending upon what I have it set to do.

I have had to recover files from my backup drive before and was glad I
had it. I have not had to go back to earlier versions of a file though


-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 11:57:28 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 07:57:28 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sweet Hard Drive on Sale
Message-ID: <AANLkTimPOKUdcMGK_BZVm8rSLrNEzwM3PB7LpFn9p09Q@mail.gmail.com>

Speed up your laptop...
http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx



-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From tpcutter at aol.com  Fri Jun  4 12:13:24 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 08:13:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sweet Hard Drive on Sale
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimPOKUdcMGK_BZVm8rSLrNEzwM3PB7LpFn9p09Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimPOKUdcMGK_BZVm8rSLrNEzwM3PB7LpFn9p09Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD1F6770E9800-1B0C-C6C@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>


motoedde sez: "Speed up your 
laptop...http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx"

That's the one I got a few months ago at edde's recommendation. Works 
awesome, stable like a rock.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???


-----Original Message-----
From: edde m <motoedde2 at gmail.com>
To: mac-Pac <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
Sent: Fri, Jun 4, 2010 7:57 am
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sweet Hard Drive on Sale


Speed up your 
laptop...http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx-- edde m93 
K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 
240D(hers)Philadelphia, USweb: 
motoedde_______________________________________________Mac-pac-l 
mailing 
listMac-pac-l at jtan.comhttp://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
  

From wateredg at interlog.com  Fri Jun  4 13:01:27 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:01:27 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sweet Hard Drive on Sale
References: <AANLkTimPOKUdcMGK_BZVm8rSLrNEzwM3PB7LpFn9p09Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <347E765B43444393BBFB427826E6A085@9200c>

Hello Edde,

From: "edde m" <motoedde2 at gmail.com>

> Speed up your laptop...
> http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx

My understanding is that Solid State Drives (SSDs) are still in the "early 
adopter" cycle of product development, and have not reached the "tipping 
point" yet. Key show-stoppers include:
- High price compared to spinning magnetic media, especially
   in high capacities (e.g., 500 GB SSD = ~$1500 where as a
   500 GB HD = ~$80
- Performance: Many SSDs perform slower than HD, and they
   slow down considerably with use over time. The more your
   files change, the more the slow-down becomes apparent.
- Reliability: There are still a lot of complaints in the field about
   SSDs failing rapidly as compared to HDs. Different models
   are affected differently.

>From what I have been able to gather, SSD can be a god-send for laptops 
belonging to users who do not need a lot of capacity, and who do not make 
intensive use of the disk. Turn virtual memory (VM) OFF to save SSD wear, 
and to help minimize the slow-down over time. On Windows XP, set VM to a 
fixed initial size of 50 MB. Battery life increases on laptops because SSDs 
consume less energy than HDs.

Folks who make extensive use of their disk, such as running a database or 
doing video editing, will notice the performance decline much more rapidly. 
This describes me.

I can't wait for 500 GB SSDs to become affordable, and lose their 
performance decline with intensive use. SSD will eventually become the new 
standard.

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada


From piechota at argolis.org  Fri Jun  4 13:16:28 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 09:16:28 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sweet Hard Drive on Sale
In-Reply-To: <347E765B43444393BBFB427826E6A085@9200c>
References: <AANLkTimPOKUdcMGK_BZVm8rSLrNEzwM3PB7LpFn9p09Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<347E765B43444393BBFB427826E6A085@9200c>
Message-ID: <4C08FCAC.7010109@argolis.org>

Steve Makohin wrote:

> I can't wait for 500 GB SSDs to become affordable, and lose their 
> performance decline with intensive use. SSD will eventually become the new 
> standard.

The performance decline (I'd guess you already know) is due to 
coordination between the drive and the OS.  Apparently, SSD's only 
'maintain' portions of the disk that it thinks are in use.  Up until 
recently, operating systems didn't notify disks that it wasn't using a 
portion of the disk any more (like when you generate, burn, then delete 
a DVD image).  So as time goes by, the SSD is maintaining more and more 
of the capacity even if the OS isn't using it.  The newer versions of 
Linux (the last few months) and Windows 7 support the TRIM feature, 
which tells the SSD what's going on.  There are apparently manual TRIM 
tools as well, according to the article below.  That would a good thing 
to run on some schedule.

Some of the older Intel devices only supported a full-disk TRIM.  As in, 
you could TRIM the entire disk, but you lost all your data too.  That's 
helpful. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM

From gary5410 at aol.com  Fri Jun  4 13:26:51 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 09:26:51 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen...I need to start wearing my helmet!
Message-ID: <8CCD200BA46C681-3AEC-13BB@Webmail-m105.sysops.aol.com>

I was drilling through the bottom of the cabinet, through the floor for 
the gas line with a 1" hole saw. The saw was dull and I added my weight 
to help it through.............when it went through the floor I had no 
support.....caught myself with my head on the cabinet edge.

.....a little dizzy............lesson learned!
Would have made a great You Tube FAIL video!

http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/IMG2189/889202192_9vyZC-L.jpg

Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 13:28:58 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:28:58 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen...I need to start wearing my helmet!
In-Reply-To: <8CCD200BA46C681-3AEC-13BB@Webmail-m105.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCD200BA46C681-3AEC-13BB@Webmail-m105.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimZsq1PEz-pCc7XXdwkzYHbUs2bmwEbTPeuKnW0@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Gary:

Damn, that must have hurt. You were lucky nothing else happened
involving the saw. You're kitchen is beautiful, by the way.



-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Fri Jun  4 13:44:02 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:44:02 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen...I need to start wearing my helmet!
Message-ID: <22048986.1275659042999.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>to help it through.............when it went through the floor I had no 
>support.....caught myself with my head on the cabinet edge.
>
>.....a little dizzy............lesson learned!
>Would have made a great You Tube FAIL video!
>
>http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/IMG2189/889202192_9vyZC-L.jpg
>
>Gary Christman

One Word.... OUCH... That did leave a mark...

Recover quickly.. 

Jim

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 14:03:22 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:03:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now this will bring a smile to Jack R's clients...
Message-ID: <AANLkTikpFLMQjagpj9PDBaxxOvcp2Umm1leXjI_eE1Hd@mail.gmail.com>

This parody will definitely warm them up about traveling by air.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8aKCsqHSfA
(NWS, due to some flashing nudity, not overt)

It is amazing what folks are doing with video editing tools.  Note
there is a slap at "liberals" but neither of the PIPs have clean
hands.

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From kgbruce1 at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 14:12:39 2010
From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:12:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen...I need to start wearing my helmet!
In-Reply-To: <8CCD200BA46C681-3AEC-13BB@Webmail-m105.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCD200BA46C681-3AEC-13BB@Webmail-m105.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik_OuIOPsJXghoojLZUXrmyk6-AgiZdgZbmzu4M@mail.gmail.com>

Oh, that's a good one!!   Wearing the helmet may be a little tender for a
while...

Ken Bruce

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Gary Christman <gary5410 at aol.com> wrote:

> I was drilling through the bottom of the cabinet, through the floor for
> the gas line with a 1" hole saw. The saw was dull and I added my weight
> to help it through.............when it went through the floor I had no
> support.....caught myself with my head on the cabinet edge.
>
> .....a little dizzy............lesson learned!
> Would have made a great You Tube FAIL video!
>
>
> http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/IMG2189/889202192_9vyZC-L.jpg
>
> Gary Christman
> '07 R 1200 GS Adventure
> _______________________________________________
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> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 14:31:23 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:31:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Want a free trip to Italy? Buy a motorcycle
Message-ID: <AANLkTinBMLJ1QD-HdVO-8z0jfU94G9-IFVTBO6vzXJjJ@mail.gmail.com>

Details at:
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/04/motorcycle-news-roundup-3/
(WS)

Niggling details.  You will be purchasing it in Britain.  It is a MV
Agusta Brutale 990R or 1090RR.  You do get a factory tour out of it.

More moto news at the NYT URL.

VERY nice sidecar here from the URL above.
http://www.fuzzygalore.com/2010/06/the-barber-museum-1958-ariel-square-four-with-sidecar/
(WS)
It is a bit disconcerting being just a "bit" larger than the bike.
Plus it is on the "wrong side"....

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From elkwalks at ptd.net  Fri Jun  4 14:46:39 2010
From: elkwalks at ptd.net (Dan Dolby)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:46:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] rt. 202 slow down and full stop this weekend
Message-ID: <0694E7095468478BB7975B17101B180A@dan736a7e1b29d>

http://www.dailylocal.com/articles/2010/06/03/news/srv0000008431773.txt

From wateredg at interlog.com  Fri Jun  4 14:48:56 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:48:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sweet Hard Drive on Sale
References: <AANLkTimPOKUdcMGK_BZVm8rSLrNEzwM3PB7LpFn9p09Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<347E765B43444393BBFB427826E6A085@9200c>
	<4C08FCAC.7010109@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <CCD51242AE9D44999950F3994B0D4433@9200c>

Hello Matt,

From: "Matt Piechota" <piechota at argolis.org>

> Steve Makohin wrote:
>
>> I can't wait for 500 GB SSDs to become affordable, and lose their 
>> performance decline with intensive use. SSD will eventually become the 
>> new standard.
>
> The performance decline (I'd guess you already know) is due to 
> coordination between the drive and the OS.  Apparently, SSD's only 
> 'maintain' portions of the disk that it thinks are in use.  Up until 
> recently, operating systems didn't notify disks that it wasn't using a 
> portion of the disk any more (like when you generate, burn, then delete a 
> DVD image).  So as time goes by, the SSD is maintaining more and more of 
> the capacity even if the OS isn't using it.  The newer versions of Linux 
> (the last few months) and Windows 7 support the TRIM feature, which tells 
> the SSD what's going on.  There are apparently manual TRIM tools as well, 
> according to the article below.  That would a good thing to run on some 
> schedule.
>
> Some of the older Intel devices only supported a full-disk TRIM.  As in, 
> you could TRIM the entire disk, but you lost all your data too.  That's 
> helpful. :)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM

The article is correct, but perhaps hard for laymen to understand. To the 
best of my knowledge, even OSes that offer the TRIM command, such as Windows 
7 and the latest version of Linux, do not fully address the issue of SSD 
slowdown over time. For example, SSD fragmentation occurs at a 
sub-file-system level, where regular disk defragmenters only exacerbate the 
problem.

Let me know if you've heard anything that indicates an SSD starts out faster 
than an HD, and consistently stays that way, regardless of use. And what the 
user needs to do to make that a reality.

It's just a matter of time before these kinks get ironed out. I can't wait 
for that day :-)

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 17:44:44 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:44:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] One seriously COOL bike
Message-ID: <AANLkTikkDY285YLhFfpXcmYHbRtlcz7qRo570VBBEAbm@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.bikeexif.com/vincent-motorcycle-2
(WS)

I believe some of the pics here are both the "Nero" and the
"SuperNero"  The Line drawing is VERY cool.  The builder had real
vision.

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From ephoet at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 19:02:59 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:02:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT or not (It does have three wheels): Mentos and
	Coke "Rocket Vehicle"
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikUEqWF76sr58B50pouUi780RVortGE223OZbJE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimncPnt4V_JNdOPafAHQZBXuIwowhO6uZDm5jww@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4C06DA35.25464.22BA140@localhost>
	<AANLkTikUEqWF76sr58B50pouUi780RVortGE223OZbJE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikRFdeqduHwaIVZbRzH-VgM9C-YDt1V5qzhNjrH@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/2/10, Joe Dille <joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us> wrote:
>> ?> Some will know where this was shot. ?VERY impressive videography of
>> ?> it.

>>
>> I believe that is Moffet field in CA.
>
> Yup, what started at Blimp, or Dirigible Hangers. ?They were "plenty
> of overhead room" for the P3s when they flew out of there.
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------


Some how I have to think an open PVC pipe is not the ideal nozzle
configuration for this application.
Plus the length from bottle to opening is way too long.

But its still pretty funny

Photo of Moffet Field
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Kluft-photo-Moffett-Federal-Airfield-Oct-2008-Img_1911.jpg


Erik H

From ephoet at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 19:26:17 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:26:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Mercury, the end is near
Message-ID: <AANLkTilpdIuW7fibHkGSUGYMLgMlVrf0nLQFTqjJQ4th@mail.gmail.com>

The car, not the planet.  Mercury production to end later this year.

"Now Meteor, Now Marauder!
Now, Cyclone and Voyager!
On, Comet! On, Cougar!
On, Tracer and Zephyr!
To the bottom of the heap!
You've done hit the wall!
Now dash away! Dash away!
Dash away all!"



* Mercury Bobcat (1975?1980)
    * Mercury Brougham (1967?1968)
    * Mercury Capri (1979?1986, 1991?1994)
    * Mercury Colony Park (1957?1991)
    * Mercury Comet (1960?1977)
    * Mercury Commuter (1957?1968)
    * Mercury Cougar (1967?1997, 1999?2002)
    * Mercury Custom (1956)
    * Mercury Cyclone (1964?1972)
    * Mercury Eight
    * Mercury Grand Monarch Ghia (1975?1976)
    * Mercury LN7 (1982?1983)
    * Mercury Lynx (1981?1987)
    * Mercury M-Series (1946?1968, Canada)
    * Mercury Marauder (19631/2-1965, 1969?1970 and 2003?2004)
    * Mercury Marauder X-100 (1969?1970)
    * Mercury Marquis (1967?1986)
    * Mercury Medalist
    * Mercury Meteor (1961?1963)
    * Mercury Monarch (1975?1980)
    * Mercury Montclair (1955?1960, 1964?1968)
    * Mercury Montego (1968?1976, 2005?2007)
    * Mercury Monterey (1950?1974)
    * Mercury Mystique (1995?2000)
    * Mercury Park Lane (1958?1960, 1964?1968)
    * Mercury Park Lane Brougham (1967?1968)
    * Mercury S-22 (1961?1963)
    * Mercury S-33 (1962?1963)
    * Mercury S-55 (1962?19631/2 and 1966?1967)
    * Mercury Tracer (1988-1999) (2011 cancelled)
    * Mercury Topaz (1984?1994)
    * Mercury Turnpike Cruiser (1957?1958)
    * Mercury Voyager (1957)
    * Mercury Zephyr (1978?1983)


http://www.philly.com/philly/classifieds/cars/20100602_ap_mercuryfallingfordeliminatesmidrangebrand.html

EPH

From mrmevans at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 19:34:02 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:34:02 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Mercury, the end is near
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilpdIuW7fibHkGSUGYMLgMlVrf0nLQFTqjJQ4th@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilpdIuW7fibHkGSUGYMLgMlVrf0nLQFTqjJQ4th@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilbhjCcCn26QtK3LAmmbamKJe9ofY_0rfn8lbpi@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Erik Hoet <ephoet at gmail.com> wrote:
> The car, not the planet. ?Mercury production to end later this year.

<snip>

Missing a few of the current models from your list...

Mecury Milan
Mercury Mariner
Mercury Grand Marquis
Mercury Mountaineer


I was just having a conversation about this with my Mother-in-Law who
owns a Milan


-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From piechota at argolis.org  Fri Jun  4 19:42:17 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 15:42:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Mercury, the end is near
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilpdIuW7fibHkGSUGYMLgMlVrf0nLQFTqjJQ4th@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilpdIuW7fibHkGSUGYMLgMlVrf0nLQFTqjJQ4th@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C095719.6070409@argolis.org>

Erik Hoet wrote:
> The car, not the planet.  Mercury production to end later this year.
> 
> "Now Meteor, Now Marauder!
> Now, Cyclone and Voyager!
> On, Comet! On, Cougar!
> On, Tracer and Zephyr!
> To the bottom of the heap!
> You've done hit the wall!
> Now dash away! Dash away!
> Dash away all!"

I guess I can take Mercury off my list.

From piechota at argolis.org  Fri Jun  4 19:44:44 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 15:44:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dinner, Jimmy's BBQ, Tonight (Friday 6/4), 7:30PM
Message-ID: <4C0957AC.6080104@argolis.org>

I'm going to Jimmy's BBQ in Malvern tonight at 7:30PM.  I'd be happy to 
have anyone join me.  Motorcycle optional, storms around and BBQ goes 
really well with a beer.

From mrmevans at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 19:54:49 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:54:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT? Custom OEM Graphics?
Message-ID: <AANLkTim_-DQayYLZSGxtasR0pI4MwRIjLgcw5raL4n_H@mail.gmail.com>

Following the Mercury demise announcement I came across this news bit
from Ford - they are starting to offer custom vinyl graphics for thier
vehicles.

http://www.fordcustomgraphics.com/

I wonder what kind of market there is for BMW to make custom graphics
for thier bikes....if they had a design that made a bike look like
rolling greasy cheesesteak they could probably sell a few to the
MAC-PAC.  ;^)

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From kaldewaay at live.com  Fri Jun  4 20:14:17 2010
From: kaldewaay at live.com (Alain Kaldewaay)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:14:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Labrador add on
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP65505ACC65AEB8F043DB62CAD20@phx.gbl>

Mac riders,
Just an idea why don't we also hit the Vermont RA Gateway to New  
England rally. The Rally is from July 29th - August 1st on the way to  
Labrador. I was thinking, being there on the 30th and staying two days  
the fun days. Clubs can get a special space the web site is www.bmwra.org/node/15
Again just a thought.

Sent from Alain Kaldewaay IPhone

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Fri Jun  4 20:44:09 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:44:09 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] One seriously COOL bike
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikkDY285YLhFfpXcmYHbRtlcz7qRo570VBBEAbm@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikkDY285YLhFfpXcmYHbRtlcz7qRo570VBBEAbm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <30532.12.181.211.35.1275684249.squirrel@12.181.211.35>

> http://www.bikeexif.com/vincent-motorcycle-2
> (WS)
>
> I believe some of the pics here are both the "Nero" and the
> "SuperNero"  The Line drawing is VERY cool.  The builder had real
> vision.
>

Wow.  That is awesome.  I want to see it.

Ride Safe,

Joe


From piechota at argolis.org  Fri Jun  4 20:51:23 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:51:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT? Custom OEM Graphics?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim_-DQayYLZSGxtasR0pI4MwRIjLgcw5raL4n_H@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim_-DQayYLZSGxtasR0pI4MwRIjLgcw5raL4n_H@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C09674B.6000804@argolis.org>

Michael Evans wrote:
> Following the Mercury demise announcement I came across this news bit
> from Ford - they are starting to offer custom vinyl graphics for thier
> vehicles.
> 
> http://www.fordcustomgraphics.com/
> 
> I wonder what kind of market there is for BMW to make custom graphics
> for thier bikes....if they had a design that made a bike look like
> rolling greasy cheesesteak they could probably sell a few to the
> MAC-PAC.  ;^)
> 

http://www.fordfiestagraphics.com/product_colors.php?product_id=8

I wonder if I can get that on a Pinto?

From ephoet at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 20:58:23 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:58:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT? Custom OEM Graphics?
In-Reply-To: <4C09674B.6000804@argolis.org>
References: <AANLkTim_-DQayYLZSGxtasR0pI4MwRIjLgcw5raL4n_H@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4C09674B.6000804@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiljcmyIOsI_DuBz8mFgEz7JsD6_4FuhIXrgWCGS@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Matt Piechota <piechota at argolis.org> wrote:
> Michael Evans wrote:
>> Following the Mercury demise announcement I came across this news bit
>> from Ford - they are starting to offer custom vinyl graphics for thier
>> vehicles.
>>
>> http://www.fordcustomgraphics.com/
>>
>> I wonder what kind of market there is for BMW to make custom graphics
>> for thier bikes....if they had a design that made a bike look like
>> rolling greasy cheesesteak they could probably sell a few to the
>> MAC-PAC. ?;^)
>>
>
> http://www.fordfiestagraphics.com/product_colors.php?product_id=8
>
> I wonder if I can get that on a Pinto?
> _______________________________________________

You must be considering the "flames" option.    I did not notice an
"explosion" theme as an alternate, though.

Erik H
73 Pinto RunAbout, Red/Black, Black interior, 4 speed MT, 8 track
First car my brother and I had.  Served us well.

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Fri Jun  4 21:00:39 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:00:39 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT? Custom OEM Graphics?
Message-ID: <33306593.1275685240016.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>> 
>> http://www.fordcustomgraphics.com/
>> 
>> I wonder what kind of market there is for BMW to make custom graphics
>> for thier bikes....if they had a design that made a bike look like
>> rolling greasy cheesesteak they could probably sell a few to the
>> MAC-PAC.  ;^)
>
>http://www.fordfiestagraphics.com/product_colors.php?product_id=8
>
>I wonder if I can get that on a Pinto?

I followed the web page and build one and selected the flames (Pinto releated) 

ONLY  Flames Orange   MSRP: $399

Ah, for $400 ... That is a lot of gas 

Jim


James Sterling III
Ride Safe
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'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From rsorens at comcast.net  Fri Jun  4 21:29:11 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:29:11 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen...I need to start wearing my helmet!
In-Reply-To: <8CCD200BA46C681-3AEC-13BB@Webmail-m105.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <645D16D64C95447FBD70222A15D53712@Tekki>

>http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/IMG2189/889202192_9vyZC-L.jp
g

I HATE when that happens.....YOWCH


From piechota at argolis.org  Fri Jun  4 22:12:03 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:12:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Want a free trip to Italy? Buy a motorcycle
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinBMLJ1QD-HdVO-8z0jfU94G9-IFVTBO6vzXJjJ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinBMLJ1QD-HdVO-8z0jfU94G9-IFVTBO6vzXJjJ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C097A33.2040809@argolis.org>

Brian Curry wrote:
> Details at:
> http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/04/motorcycle-news-roundup-3/
> (WS)

> VERY nice sidecar here from the URL above.
> http://www.fuzzygalore.com/2010/06/the-barber-museum-1958-ariel-square-four-with-sidecar/
> (WS)
> It is a bit disconcerting being just a "bit" larger than the bike.
> Plus it is on the "wrong side"....

I'm guessing a square four looks like a 4-pack of beer bottles, and has 
two crankshafts?


And, you neglected to mention Isle of Man as coming up!  :)

From ephoet at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 22:28:09 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:28:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dinner, Jimmy's BBQ, Tonight (Friday 6/4), 7:30PM
In-Reply-To: <4C0957AC.6080104@argolis.org>
References: <4C0957AC.6080104@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimSn72wy-rNXb2FDwnmgj2b_ExbTiOltY56aHb8@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Matt Piechota <piechota at argolis.org> wrote:
> I'm going to Jimmy's BBQ in Malvern tonight at 7:30PM. ?I'd be happy to
> have anyone join me. ?Motorcycle optional, storms around and BBQ goes
> really well with a beer.
> _______________________________________________

Jennifer & I wil see you there at 7:30.  Good idea.

Yuengling is cooling in the frig as you read this.

Erik

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 23:31:46 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:31:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Who is heading to Pasadena for Saturday's auction?
Message-ID: <AANLkTikaupzfMIzCKyG8IInG74t1jJOauuszYJuFcL9N@mail.gmail.com>

Or has an agent there?

http://batorauctions.com/
(Click through the items listing  WS)

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 23:33:14 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:33:14 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The Evolution of the Boob
Message-ID: <AANLkTimAsrUNF7lXQ5_xhdYhEUee7MeVlP60-nPw2C5u@mail.gmail.com>

Somebody had fun writing these descriptions. :)

http://www.playboy.com/girls/landingpages/evolution-of-the-boob/
(NWS!!!!!)

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 23:35:09 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:35:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Interesting series of Track Pics
Message-ID: <AANLkTik6YGDknW7YIBtnkWjAF9R-uSUdp--aackDQCZc@mail.gmail.com>

Pics of Mugello, as a walk-around from the track

http://www.motomatters.com/blog/2010/06/04/editor_s_blog_a_photo_lap_of_mugello.html
(WS)

Looks like the area where the track is is NEAT.  They SERIOUSLY do not
want the fans on the track.


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From piechota at argolis.org  Fri Jun  4 23:17:32 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 19:17:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dinner, Jimmy's BBQ, Tonight (Friday 6/4), 7:30PM
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimSn72wy-rNXb2FDwnmgj2b_ExbTiOltY56aHb8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C0957AC.6080104@argolis.org>
	<AANLkTimSn72wy-rNXb2FDwnmgj2b_ExbTiOltY56aHb8@mail.gmail.com>
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Erik Hoet wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Matt Piechota <piechota at argolis.org> wrote:
>> I'm going to Jimmy's BBQ in Malvern tonight at 7:30PM.  I'd be happy to
>> have anyone join me.  Motorcycle optional, storms around and BBQ goes
>> really well with a beer.
>> _______________________________________________
> 
> Jennifer & I wil see you there at 7:30.  Good idea.
> 
> Yuengling is cooling in the frig as you read this.
> 
> Erik
> 

I'm runngin a bit late...

From pasegc at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 01:37:30 2010
From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 21:37:30 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen...I need to start wearing my helmet!
In-Reply-To: <8CCD200BA46C681-3AEC-13BB@Webmail-m105.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCD200BA46C681-3AEC-13BB@Webmail-m105.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimezQ6rbqRyvJ-0975LN0jc2nU6psFmvTnStZhN@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Gary Christman <gary5410 at aol.com> wrote:
> I was drilling through the bottom of the cabinet, through the floor for
> the gas line with a 1" hole saw. The saw was dull and I added my weight
> to help it through.............when it went through the floor I had no
> support.....caught myself with my head on the cabinet edge.
>
> .....a little dizzy............lesson learned!
> Would have made a great You Tube FAIL video!


Keep the helmut off for a few days, it will heal sooner.  We will give
you credit of a few mile for that mishap.  OUCH !!!!!

Damn !!!!!!


Gerry Cavanaugh
Coatesville, PA

From wayne at 2zars.com  Sat Jun  5 01:58:52 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:58:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The Evolution of the Boob
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimAsrUNF7lXQ5_xhdYhEUee7MeVlP60-nPw2C5u@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimAsrUNF7lXQ5_xhdYhEUee7MeVlP60-nPw2C5u@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <vnbj069tpieol4a28uccar6c0qsgb0aqfp@4ax.com>

On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:33:14 -0400, you wrote:

>Somebody had fun writing these descriptions. :)
>
>http://www.playboy.com/girls/landingpages/evolution-of-the-boob/
>(NWS!!!!!)

They should show the playmates of the year in sequence so you can
determine when implants became popular.  '86 and '89 are definitely
fake.  

Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 15:37:55 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:37:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Mercury, the end is near
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilpdIuW7fibHkGSUGYMLgMlVrf0nLQFTqjJQ4th@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilpdIuW7fibHkGSUGYMLgMlVrf0nLQFTqjJQ4th@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilkJSJwU9cQ-1ACUoVbaHB9EEkHb8b_nyKOaq5N@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Erik Hoet <ephoet at gmail.com> wrote:
> The car, not the planet. ?Mercury production to end later this year.
>
> "Now Meteor, Now Marauder!
> Now, Cyclone and Voyager!
> On, Comet! On, Cougar!
> On, Tracer and Zephyr!
> To the bottom of the heap!
> You've done hit the wall!
> Now dash away! Dash away!
> Dash away all!"


Gonna Buy Me a MURKRY

CRUISE UP AN DOWN THIS ROAD

dANO

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 16:01:39 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 12:01:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Denis Manning quote
Message-ID: <AANLkTikNcyoHQ4wn_6rJFPeQ9vy_zBWaNgPyu2j_7FCT@mail.gmail.com>

"I WAS IN LOVE WITH A DWARF!"

"I WAS NUTS OVER HER!"

Denis Manning


Dano

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Sat Jun  5 23:56:58 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 19:56:58 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cheese Steak Run
Message-ID: <4935953.1275782218478.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Here are a few shots from today's Cheese Steak Run

http://picasaweb.google.com/jas3rd/CheeseSteakRun#

What a great run, Thanks Rick.

Philly Traffic, hot weather, good food (some better then others) and great riding compainions.

In my view, there were two "better then others" Vito's (Yea Cory) and Tony Luke's but that is just my view (burp)

I am still full.. 

Thanks all.. I had a great time..

Jim

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
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'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From rsorens at comcast.net  Sun Jun  6 00:18:31 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 20:18:31 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cheesesteak run 2010 - The Results - a little long
Message-ID: <5CBA146D85654640882E63D7CD456992@Tekki>

Well, it was a good time...it was warm, but we didn't get rained on.
I want to thank the group for hanging in; at one point the route got 'F'd"
by my thick fingered routing techniques and BOTH the East River Drive AND
West River Dr were closed, so that kinda screwed things up a bit. We pulled
over at one point (I was going to offer a bail at this point because it had
become somewhat of a cluster-F - and before everyone even got their helmets
off, someone said "this is getting to be a Cluster-F". But everyone hung in
and completed the days ride.
I will ask others who actually took pictures to post a link to their albums
of glorious, full color, epic shots of the gluttonous, disgusting, display
that took place all over the greater Phila area.

Attendees were:
DucDude; Jim Sterling; me; Kimi Bush; Corey Lyba; Rick Caveliere; Jack
Weiss; Jay Scales; Matt Piechota.
As previously stated (and in typical Mac-Pac fashion) it was an ungodly
complicated set of rules, qualifications and data points.
The cheesesteak shops, and thereby, the cheesesteaks themselves, we rated as
follows:

Meat: quality, texture, gristle content, taste
Bread: texture, taste, grease resistance/absorption
Grease: viscosity, flavor, aroma, ease of clean-up
	(this became somewhat of a bone of contention with the various
rating personnel - some felt grease 
	 can be negative point value, while others relished the grease,
almost literally rolling in it - 
	 it was left to the individual to make a judgment call - yikes, that
can almost always be a 
	 mistake w/ this group)
Cheese: Real cheese only - it was decided early on that in order to be fair,
we would get all the steaks w/American cheese.
Price: while EVERYTHING else on the form was on a 1-10 scale; one individual
chose to write down the price as his rating...thus earning his rating a ZERO
for this category.
Ambiance/Service: Grimy? Verbal abuse? Sustained aroma?
Intangibles: 'Are you a better person for having eaten this food?'

One of the ...no, THE most exciting part of this whole adventure was that as
we were standing on South St, in front of Jim's, some gentlemen with a
camera, a boom mike, a sound man and an interviewer came up to us and asked
if we would talk to them about cheesesteaks!. I think I looked at him as if
to say "WTF do you think we're doing?" but I restrained myself. Turns out
they were filming for the Travel Channel and really were looking for
interviews about....cheesesteaks. We talked up the Mac-Pac, told them about
our rating system, showed them our score cards and they shot a close-up of
Jim Sterlng's Mac-Pac shirt w/ the GIANT logo on the back. We all had to
sign releases and I left my email address and phone number....we'll see if
we make it on the air.

Be that as it may.    A dddddrrrrruuummmmm Rolllll, PLEASE!

The scores from last place to 1st:
Jem Restaurant - 0 (yes, ZERO - they don't serve cheesesteaks on Saturday -
they may actually receive a 
						notification on this score)
Ishkabibble's - 222
Jim's - 269.5
Tony Luke's - 323.5
Delassandros - 345
Vito's - 389

There are no protests or bitches allowed - the results speak for themselves.
There MAY have been some break-points: Delassandros MAY have done better in
the 'Ambiance' area if we didn't eat our cheesesteaks next to the field
where the neighborhood walks their dogs -  I had to warn DucDude not to set
his helmet down in a pile; and Vit's may have gotten some help in the
"Intangibles" area simply because Corey cooked the steaks himself,
specifically for the rating crew, but as I said, the results are the results
and I personally think the best steak won regardless.
The cards were dealt at each stop and Jay Scales won the pot = a whopping
$25 and change.

Thanks gang, had a great time, hope you did too.



Rick Sorensen

R1150GS - Pseudo Adventure
"TEKKI" - 'iron knight'
R1150GS
"KANKU III" - 'to view the sky'

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 01:24:39 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 21:24:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cheesesteak run 2010 - The Results - a little long
In-Reply-To: <5CBA146D85654640882E63D7CD456992@Tekki>
References: <5CBA146D85654640882E63D7CD456992@Tekki>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimxaU1htOFBtkZV4cHstVv1jltjiasqlQSy86_P@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/5/10, Rick Sorensen <rsorens at comcast.net> wrote:

>  Price: while EVERYTHING else on the form was on a 1-10 scale; one individual
>  chose to write down the price as his rating...thus earning his rating a ZERO
>  for this category.

Now does that speak to the rater or the person explaining the "system"???

>  One of the ...no, THE most exciting part of this whole adventure was that as
>  we were standing on South St, in front of Jim's, some gentlemen with a
>  camera, a boom mike, a sound man and an interviewer came up to us and asked
>  if we would talk to them about cheesesteaks!. I think I looked at him as if
>  to say "WTF do you think we're doing?" but I restrained myself. Turns out
>  they were filming for the Travel Channel and really were looking for
>  interviews about....cheesesteaks. We talked up the Mac-Pac, told them about
>  our rating system, showed them our score cards and they shot a close-up of
>  Jim Sterlng's Mac-Pac shirt w/ the GIANT logo on the back. We all had to
>  sign releases and I left my email address and phone number....we'll see if
>  we make it on the air.

Oh, that would be SO CHOICE.  I wonder if we can find out if Mac-Pac
is included so we can do "underground" promo of the show FOR them.

That would be SO COOL!!

>  Vito's - 389

>  his helmet down in a pile; and Vit's may have gotten some help in the
>  "Intangibles" area simply because Corey cooked the steaks himself,
>  specifically for the rating crew, but as I said, the results are the results
>  and I personally think the best steak won regardless.

And it is "somewhat" easy to get to being outside the city.

  The cards were dealt at each stop and Jay Scales won the pot = a whopping
>  $25 and change.

Yay for Jay!!!


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From rsorens at comcast.net  Sun Jun  6 01:32:02 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 21:32:02 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cheesesteak run 2010 - The Results - a little long
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimxaU1htOFBtkZV4cHstVv1jltjiasqlQSy86_P@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B8CA7901DFA14167B4D16FED457EE714@Tekki>

>>  Price: while EVERYTHING else on the form was on a 1-10 scale; one 
>> individual  chose to write down the price as his rating...thus earning 
>> his rating a ZERO  for this category.
>
>Now does that speak to the rater or the person explaining the "system"???

Well, eight outta nine got it right, so it.....MUST have been ME, huh??


Rick


From honeybrk at dejazzd.com  Sun Jun  6 02:51:56 2010
From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 22:51:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cheesesteak run 2010 - The Results - a little long
References: <5CBA146D85654640882E63D7CD456992@Tekki>
Message-ID: <02e501cb0523$3a425110$4101a8c0@FastHP>

> Meat: quality, texture, gristle content, taste
> One of the ...no, THE most exciting part of this whole adventure was that 
> as
> we were standing on South St, in front of Jim's, some gentlemen with a
> camera, a boom mike, a sound man and an interviewer came up to us and 
> asked
> if we would talk to them about cheesesteaks!. I think I looked at him as 
> if
> to say "WTF do you think we're doing?" but I restrained myself. Turns out
> they were filming for the Travel Channel and really were looking for
> interviews about....cheesesteaks. We talked up the Mac-Pac, told them 
> about
> our rating system, showed them our score cards and they shot a close-up of
> Jim Sterlng's Mac-Pac shirt w/ the GIANT logo on the back. We all had to
> sign releases and I left my email address and phone number....we'll see if
> we make it on the air.

That is great if the Pac gets on the Travel Channel.  It should since they 
do seem to like something a bit out of the ordinary  Did they say which 
program it was?

Marge 


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 03:08:30 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 23:08:30 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is effective use of protective gear
Message-ID: <AANLkTilWzZj1fudWckwj8gIibsWUq8TfHrMiIbIsyjcK@mail.gmail.com>

Even prepared for two up riding...

http://i.imgur.com/QuHx2.jpg
(WS)

Or would it be three up?

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From rsorens at comcast.net  Sun Jun  6 03:10:30 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 23:10:30 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cheesesteak run 2010 - The Results - a little long
In-Reply-To: <02e501cb0523$3a425110$4101a8c0@FastHP>
Message-ID: <CE5F6D9BDFB2417CAEBD017E519AAD0B@Tekki>

>That is great if the Pac gets on the Travel Channel.  It should since they
do seem to like something a bit out of the ordinary  Did they say which
program it was?

No, the didn't. If/when I get a call or email from then, I will keep
everyone posted.


Rick


From rsorens at comcast.net  Sun Jun  6 03:16:50 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 23:16:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is effective use of protective gear
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilWzZj1fudWckwj8gIibsWUq8TfHrMiIbIsyjcK@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C4E250510AE04A65BC40D5AF64216590@Tekki>

>Even prepared for two up riding...
>
>http://i.imgur.com/QuHx2.jpg 

They're not 'protective gear' they're fashion accessories.


From jerrycline at hotmail.com  Sun Jun  6 03:53:42 2010
From: jerrycline at hotmail.com (Jerry Cline)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 23:53:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] You guys and gals are slacking...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilt_TQifDomTVxGZhpHBI30zzcGaKJky92B9c9n@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilt_TQifDomTVxGZhpHBI30zzcGaKJky92B9c9n@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT109-W2886C85BFC2D32FFE6EDD0D4D40@phx.gbl>



Let's not confuse quantity with quality.  

Jerry Cline 
 
610 457 5757 (M)
610 518 0564 (O)

mailto:jerrycline at hotmail.com


 
> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 09:29:45 -0400
> From: bmwbrian at gmail.com
> To: mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> Subject: [MAC-PAC] You guys and gals are slacking...
> 
> We nearly had a year with over 1000 posts a month. May ran 24 posts
> short... It was "only 976" posts.
> 
> I talked to the list admin at Micapeak.com who hosts a LOT of moto
> related lists. This list would run in the top 5 lists for activity
> if we were there.
> 
> Just FYI.
> 
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From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 04:21:15 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 00:21:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is effective use of protective gear
In-Reply-To: <C4E250510AE04A65BC40D5AF64216590@Tekki>
References: <AANLkTilWzZj1fudWckwj8gIibsWUq8TfHrMiIbIsyjcK@mail.gmail.com>
	<C4E250510AE04A65BC40D5AF64216590@Tekki>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimMRmAz8fVeTs9Nzf1SKcOUTOeeLSQ35KSEUKWQ@mail.gmail.com>

At least the turn signals on the back won't get mashed when he dumps it.

From mrmevans at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 06:21:37 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 02:21:37 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is effective use of protective gear
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimMRmAz8fVeTs9Nzf1SKcOUTOeeLSQ35KSEUKWQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilWzZj1fudWckwj8gIibsWUq8TfHrMiIbIsyjcK@mail.gmail.com>
	<C4E250510AE04A65BC40D5AF64216590@Tekki>
	<AANLkTimMRmAz8fVeTs9Nzf1SKcOUTOeeLSQ35KSEUKWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimo-uuIkVE1NlDISPJB9iQozEFZX7nCsIuXXvsc@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Michael Cantwell <mjcantwe at gmail.com> wrote:
> At least the turn signals on the back won't get mashed when he dumps it.
> _______________________________________________

He's hoping they'll work kinda like the heads on the R bikes in that regard.


-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From Ducdude at verizon.net  Sun Jun  6 12:11:41 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:11:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cheesesteak run 2010 - The Results - a little long
References: <B8CA7901DFA14167B4D16FED457EE714@Tekki>
Message-ID: <AD1097255C48490FBE00D61254B219F4@heilveil5e3fdd>


>>>  Price: while EVERYTHING else on the form was on a 1-10 scale; one
>>> individual  chose to write down the price as his rating...thus earning
>>> his rating a ZERO  for this category.
>>
>>Now does that speak to the rater or the person explaining the "system"???
>
> Well, eight outta nine got it right, so it.....MUST have been ME, huh??
>
>
> Rick

Whoops, I had fully intended to rate them most expensive to least expensive 
using a scale of 1-5, as I feel that 6-7 bucks is a lot of money for a plain 
cheese steak.  I had planed to do this once I got them all down  and forgot 
the last step at Tony's...Oh well I was pretty well parboiled by that time 
and wanted to hit the road and get some air moving over me....

It was a good time with he Pac anyway,  even though Philly traffic shifts my 
riding style into hyper offensive mode, much to the chagrin of my fellow 
riders and more then a few cagers...After going to collage and grad school 
in "Norf" and West Philly all those years traffic in urban centers has 
become like cat nip, to me, driving me crazy and kicking up the 
aggression...Not really a good characteristic on my part

Still a good run, good people and there was food...All the points for a good 
Pac event..:-)

Ciao,
Duc



From Ducdude at verizon.net  Sun Jun  6 12:24:18 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:24:18 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fw: "The Tenth (and Last!) R90S Rally", June 11, 12 & 13
Message-ID: <AC8AF32AC8B94B16B3D3BD2694FBF886@heilveil5e3fdd>

FYI  for who have not heard Mac Kirkpatrick is holding a rally at his place.

Cheers,
Duc
--------------------------------------


Reminder:
"The Tenth (and Last!) R90S Rally" will be held June 11, 12 & 13 at Mac 
Kirkpatrick's house in Glenmoore, PA.
All R90S enthusiasts are invited.

For details see:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/R90SWORLDNET/

Mac Kirkpatrick
Glenmoore, PA USA
*********************** 


From wayne at 2zars.com  Sun Jun  6 12:53:14 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:53:14 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is effective use of protective gear
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimMRmAz8fVeTs9Nzf1SKcOUTOeeLSQ35KSEUKWQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilWzZj1fudWckwj8gIibsWUq8TfHrMiIbIsyjcK@mail.gmail.com>
	<C4E250510AE04A65BC40D5AF64216590@Tekki>
	<AANLkTimMRmAz8fVeTs9Nzf1SKcOUTOeeLSQ35KSEUKWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <tf6n0690ma314h5ds4gfsc8flblsr7j6ls@4ax.com>



>At least the turn signals on the back won't get mashed when he dumps it.

AKA, really expensive frame sliders?


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From corey.lyba at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 15:04:28 2010
From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:04:28 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cheesesteak run 2010 - The Results - a little long
In-Reply-To: <5CBA146D85654640882E63D7CD456992@Tekki>
References: <5CBA146D85654640882E63D7CD456992@Tekki>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimHkPuXmM9tjMR0ESrqH3jVNNHUay8X1fnbpZ8P@mail.gmail.com>

Glad to hear that the results came out the way they did. I didn't hand
in my score sheet because it was leaning too far in my own favor. I
thought that it was best that my scores stayed out of the mix.

From corey.lyba at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 15:08:56 2010
From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:08:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cheese Steak Run
In-Reply-To: <4935953.1275782218478.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <4935953.1275782218478.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinmasKpxQRzWKOphFeSIYwz__Y-Ja08lXOOJPpF@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Jim, will you throw these up on your FaceBook page?

From 321design at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 15:23:45 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:23:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cheesesteak run 2010 - The Results - a little long
In-Reply-To: <5CBA146D85654640882E63D7CD456992@Tekki>
References: <5CBA146D85654640882E63D7CD456992@Tekki>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikfdpNd4VfmC4lofQp4FhF2NvdFkhK04hdkU4RL@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Rick Sorensen <rsorens at comcast.net> wrote:
> Well, it was a good time.
> The scores from last place to 1st:

> Ishkabibble's - 222
> Jim's - 269.5
> Tony Luke's - 323.5
> Delassandros - 345
> Vito's - 389


Good research guys. Zagat level data. I am truly sorry to have missed
it but I had my kids home and I have a cholesterol test coming up
Tuesday - I think the grease (in some cases)  would tip the scales
unfavorably.



-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 15:29:51 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:29:51 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is effective use of protective gear
In-Reply-To: <tf6n0690ma314h5ds4gfsc8flblsr7j6ls@4ax.com>
References: <AANLkTilWzZj1fudWckwj8gIibsWUq8TfHrMiIbIsyjcK@mail.gmail.com>
	<C4E250510AE04A65BC40D5AF64216590@Tekki>
	<AANLkTimMRmAz8fVeTs9Nzf1SKcOUTOeeLSQ35KSEUKWQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<tf6n0690ma314h5ds4gfsc8flblsr7j6ls@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik8AnHyaBPbBOkYLG3CpPB4bLGQUsGYn6vB_wrV@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/6/10, Wayne Woodruff <wayne at 2zars.com> wrote:
>  >At least the turn signals on the back won't get mashed when he dumps it.
>
>
> AKA, really expensive frame sliders?

I was triggered to say "They make his butt look smaller?"

>From where I stole it, "He has protection for both heads, but
unfortunately the little one is thinking for both of them right
now...."

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 15:31:36 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:31:36 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Free music MP3s from Amazon
Message-ID: <AANLkTino8HgVlsJDrIfPrcaZBW7aC_Fw-22KEkIVwVUe@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.amazon.com/Free-Songs-Music/b?ie=UTF8&node=334897011
(WS)

I have no clue if this is a business model ploy of selected songs from
some artists or not.  But if you have an interest, the price is right.

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K75RTs both coasts   |      Find out more about it at
Chester Springs PA   |      http://www.nsevideos.com

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 15:34:14 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:34:14 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The mind reals
Message-ID: <AANLkTikaGZJoUvgZWxfHsacFQ2BYHieD1MJqmjS3_fVi@mail.gmail.com>

"10% of Under 25s Think It?s OK to Text During Sex"

http://mashable.com/2010/05/05/texting-during-sex/
(WS)

Maybe the guy texting on his bike while making the left turn from a
stop is not so out there now on a relative basis....

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From wayne at 2zars.com  Sun Jun  6 16:38:47 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:38:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cheese Steak Run
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinmasKpxQRzWKOphFeSIYwz__Y-Ja08lXOOJPpF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4935953.1275782218478.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<AANLkTinmasKpxQRzWKOphFeSIYwz__Y-Ja08lXOOJPpF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0mjn06l36fddikedecqvf2mjukgmbh1e7g@4ax.com>



>Hey Jim, will you throw these up on your FaceBook page?

I can add them to the mac-pac site if your want

Actually, I should post the background and results!



Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From 321design at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 16:54:46 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:54:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - interesting products to make life a little easier
Message-ID: <AANLkTilo0Yfp8Fl3kZ-7uSD7Loh3QMo-EPK1r5krqKB1@mail.gmail.com>

WS more or less

Having trouble maintaining that goatee? (Matt this is for you)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbHU8qOy2c4

Another indispensable product (I may need to get a bigger saddle bag
to carry this)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZeJZs2fdYo

-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From wayne at 2zars.com  Sun Jun  6 17:05:41 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:05:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The mind reals
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikaGZJoUvgZWxfHsacFQ2BYHieD1MJqmjS3_fVi@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikaGZJoUvgZWxfHsacFQ2BYHieD1MJqmjS3_fVi@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <i8ln0618v81nj0varugkbdqh8q7nilvkcf@4ax.com>

On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:34:14 -0400, you wrote:

>"10% of Under 25s Think It?s OK to Text During Sex"
>
>http://mashable.com/2010/05/05/texting-during-sex/
>(WS)
>
>Maybe the guy texting on his bike while making the left turn from a
>stop is not so out there now on a relative basis....


Texting?  I'm amazed at people who talk on their cell phone at work
while taking a dump.


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From jaburke4 at verizon.net  Sun Jun  6 16:57:42 2010
From: jaburke4 at verizon.net (John Burkhauser)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:57:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Tornado watch
Message-ID: <9D86A600-7DD8-4D41-8C22-D860EB63D639@verizon.net>


Heads up!  The whole area is under a Tornado Watch till 8:00 pm.   
Winds are kicking up.  Almost 90 here. Radar showing a fast moving  
wave cross the state.

 From John A. Burkhauser 

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Sun Jun  6 20:25:19 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:25:19 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is effective use of protective gear
In-Reply-To: <tf6n0690ma314h5ds4gfsc8flblsr7j6ls@4ax.com>
References: <AANLkTimMRmAz8fVeTs9Nzf1SKcOUTOeeLSQ35KSEUKWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C0BCBEF.6571.1F0C88A@localhost>



> 
> 
> >At least the turn signals on the back won't get mashed when he dumps
> >it.
> 
> AKA, really expensive frame sliders?
> 

I was thinking.  Gee, the manufacturer should not allow you to ride 
like that.  Perhaps they could put a switch in the helmet lock like 
the sidestand switch that would kill the engine.  Probably not 
practical, but a thought...

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From piechota at argolis.org  Sun Jun  6 20:30:26 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:30:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Free music MP3s from Amazon
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTino8HgVlsJDrIfPrcaZBW7aC_Fw-22KEkIVwVUe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTino8HgVlsJDrIfPrcaZBW7aC_Fw-22KEkIVwVUe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C0C0562.4040006@argolis.org>

Brian Curry wrote:
> http://www.amazon.com/Free-Songs-Music/b?ie=UTF8&node=334897011
> (WS)
> 
> I have no clue if this is a business model ploy of selected songs from
> some artists or not.  But if you have an interest, the price is right.
> 

Probably half advertising on the part of the artist, and half user 
training for Amazon.  "Hey, this downloading MP3s from Amazon works 
pretty well, maybe I'll try it for the next album I buy."

Similarly, some bands will give away tracks for the various guitar 
"simulator" games (I use the term simulator loosely).  I'd have to think 
it's the same idea, get people interested enough in the song to buy the 
album.

From piechota at argolis.org  Sun Jun  6 20:33:46 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:33:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The mind reals
In-Reply-To: <i8ln0618v81nj0varugkbdqh8q7nilvkcf@4ax.com>
References: <AANLkTikaGZJoUvgZWxfHsacFQ2BYHieD1MJqmjS3_fVi@mail.gmail.com>
	<i8ln0618v81nj0varugkbdqh8q7nilvkcf@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <4C0C062A.5050100@argolis.org>

Wayne Woodruff wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:34:14 -0400, you wrote:
> 
>> "10% of Under 25s Think It's OK to Text During Sex"
>>
>> http://mashable.com/2010/05/05/texting-during-sex/
>> (WS)
>>
>> Maybe the guy texting on his bike while making the left turn from a
>> stop is not so out there now on a relative basis....
> 
> 
> Texting?  I'm amazed at people who talk on their cell phone at work
> while taking a dump.

It's only 10%.  I'm guessing you could survey people and find 10% think 
it's OK to eat (for example) while having sex too.

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Sun Jun  6 20:34:36 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:34:36 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The mind reals
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikaGZJoUvgZWxfHsacFQ2BYHieD1MJqmjS3_fVi@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C0BCE1C.2246.1F94759@localhost>



> "10% of Under 25s Think It?s OK to Text During Sex"
> 
> http://mashable.com/2010/05/05/texting-during-sex/
> (WS)
> 
>
I would love to know the gender break down on those results...

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From piechota at argolis.org  Sun Jun  6 20:39:23 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:39:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is effective use of protective gear
In-Reply-To: <4C0BCBEF.6571.1F0C88A@localhost>
References: <AANLkTimMRmAz8fVeTs9Nzf1SKcOUTOeeLSQ35KSEUKWQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C0BCBEF.6571.1F0C88A@localhost>
Message-ID: <4C0C077B.2@argolis.org>

Joe Dille wrote:
> 
>>
>>> At least the turn signals on the back won't get mashed when he dumps
>>> it.
>> AKA, really expensive frame sliders?
>>
> 
> I was thinking.  Gee, the manufacturer should not allow you to ride 
> like that.  Perhaps they could put a switch in the helmet lock like 
> the sidestand switch that would kill the engine.  Probably not 
> practical, but a thought...

Why?  It doesn't seem like an issue as long as the helmets aren't 
interfering with operation of the motorcycle.  In that configuration, 
they're just really badly designed saddle bags. :)

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 21:26:10 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:26:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Rare Color Film,
	of US Aircraft Carriers in the Pacific in WW-2]
Message-ID: <AANLkTin7CZ_GBk3jXXLaBVEQdbPpxC8eLDmBHB-GMpUo@mail.gmail.com>

This is 16mm color (not "colorized") footage, that you may not have
seen, of carrier action in the Pacific.

There wasn't much color shot in the '40s - extremely expensive then,
with a complicated and exacting processing process.

WW II : RARE COLOR FILM : AIRCRAFT CARRIER IN THE PACIFIC

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=9dR3h2HdnBQ

Some of our parents might have been on these.  "On deck" protective
gear was a bit different then than now.  They put an awful lot of
aircraft up in the air.  Once you loose your air cover it is NOT good.

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 Brian Curry          |      Is Getting Old, Getting Old?
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K75RTs both coasts   |      Find out more about it at
Chester Springs PA   |      http://www.nsevideos.com

From Braveirwin at aol.com  Sun Jun  6 22:13:08 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:13:08 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The mind reals
Message-ID: <1f606.3b76ac5f.393d7774@aol.com>



In a message dated 6/6/2010 4:34:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
piechota at argolis.org writes:


It's  only 10%.  I'm guessing you could survey people and find 10% think  
it's OK to eat (for example) while having sex too.
===================================
 
I do that........oh, that's not what you mean.


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From jasiii at earthlink.net  Sun Jun  6 23:37:25 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 19:37:25 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Darkroom Photo Stuff
Message-ID: <C831A975.425E%jasiii@earthlink.net>

OK.. I am cleaning out more...

I have a small collection of items if anyone is still running old school
photo development (35mm) film.

A paper tray for the darkroom
Paper holder for printing
Couple of 35mm file tanks
Couple of fixer tanks
Several quart photo chemical jugs
And other 'stuff'

If anyone would like any of this collection please contact me without
filling every-ones e-mail (grin)

Jim (cleaning out his history)



From Braveirwin at aol.com  Sun Jun  6 23:48:07 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 19:48:07 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - interesting products to make life a little easier
Message-ID: <19846.456b24cd.393d8db7@aol.com>



In a message dated 6/6/2010 12:55:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
321design at gmail.com writes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZeJZs2fdYo
=====================================================
 
 I think we should take up a collection and replace your spoon with  one of 
these. Great find, Brian. Go for it!  Roddy.


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From 321design at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 00:09:11 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob H)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:09:11 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - interesting products to make life a little easier
In-Reply-To: <19846.456b24cd.393d8db7@aol.com>
References: <19846.456b24cd.393d8db7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <-9166103735235457909@unknownmsgid>

Hey that was my find. I should get credit for that (I think).

Rob; sent from my iPhone

On Jun 6, 2010, at 7:48 PM, "Braveirwin at aol.com" <Braveirwin at aol.com> wrote:

=======================

 I think we should take up a collection and replace your spoon with one of
these. Great find, Brian. Go for it!  Roddy.
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From Braveirwin at aol.com  Mon Jun  7 00:14:41 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:14:41 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: snipping the BOP riser
Message-ID: <1a756.6bd522f6.393d93f1@aol.com>

Hey, Doug, I think I have a good idea for capping this well. Who should I  
call?  Roddy.
 
 
In a message dated 6/1/2010 12:41:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com writes:

In the  live feed from the BOP they are now snipping off the main
riser, with the  world's largest diagonal cutters( 18ftx9ftx  40tons?).
http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepa
ge/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

They  are cutting it in a more or less horizontal section, looks like
about 200  ft from the BOP.  This is preliminary to making the
precision cut  right at the top of the BOP later this week.

The hydraulic jaws are  either closing very slowly or they have gotten 
stuck.


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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 01:01:29 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:01:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: snipping the BOP riser
In-Reply-To: <1a756.6bd522f6.393d93f1@aol.com>
References: <1a756.6bd522f6.393d93f1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiltNNi-jsU_GqVvlXttj7xcm4ntnBwAzLm9Whdb@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/6/10, Braveirwin at aol.com <Braveirwin at aol.com> wrote:
> Hey, Doug, I think I have a good idea for capping this well. Who should I
>  call?  Roddy.

From:
http://www.bp.com/bodycopyarticle.do?categoryId=1&contentId=7052055&nicam=USCSBaselineCrisisJune&nisrc=Google&nigrp=Branded_Crisis_General&niadv=General&nipkw=bp_suggestions

Do you have ideas to help us?:
+1 281 366 5511

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From Braveirwin at aol.com  Mon Jun  7 01:20:15 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:20:15 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: snipping the BOP riser
Message-ID: <132d7.731cf649.393da34f@aol.com>



In a message dated 6/6/2010 9:01:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
bmwbrian at gmail.com writes:

On  6/6/10, Braveirwin at aol.com <Braveirwin at aol.com> wrote:
> Hey,  Doug, I think I have a good idea for capping this well. Who should  
I
>  call?   Roddy.

From:
http://www.bp.com/bodycopyarticle.do?categoryId=1&contentId=7052055&nicam=US
CSBaselineCrisisJune&nisrc=Google&nigrp=Branded_Crisis_General&niadv=General
&nipkw=bp_suggestions

Do  you have ideas to help us?:
+1 281 366  5511
===================================================
 
 Thank you, Brian. I called, the call was answered, I told him my  idea, he 
thought it was a good idea, he didn't think anyone had thought of it  yet, 
and he is submitting it to the appropriate people.  He also wanted all  my 
contact info in case they had any questions. (it is a very simple idea and I  
don't think I could add anything to what I told him) He is going to send me 
an  e-mail with a form to fill out so my idea is more officially recorded. 
I was  impressed with him taking the time and interest in listening to me.   
Roddy.


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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 01:32:19 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:32:19 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - interesting products to make life a little easier
In-Reply-To: <-9166103735235457909@unknownmsgid>
References: <19846.456b24cd.393d8db7@aol.com>
	<-9166103735235457909@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikHyJBW8Tdbcw21DnMP00ApHUYOfcv4FYePtwRY@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/6/10, Rob H <321design at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey that was my find. I should get credit for that (I think).

Maybe Roddy was distracted from his main task at the time and was
e-mailing as a secondary activity....

However, Rob the REAL solution is the washlet!!  The heated seat is
just the start of the entire experience.

http://www.thingsasian.com/stories-photos/26064

http://www.performancetoilets.com/s/toto-washlets.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan#Japanese_bidets

Even "just paper" still beats chugi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nara_period_toilet_paper.jpg

For good measure Nov 10 is "Toilet Day"


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From jasiii at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  7 01:49:30 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:49:30 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Isle of Mann TT
Message-ID: <27651776.1275875370782.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


On day one a BMW is in front

http://ttlive.iomtt.com/index.htm

Competitor	        Machine	                Sector	        Lap
Keith Amor (5) (L1)	2010 BMW S1000RR 1000cc	04:28.46	130.072 (04:28.47)

Wish I was there ... 

Enjoyed two days there a LONG time ago during practice .. what a rush... NO I did not drive anything 

Watched a Bultco doing well over 100 on cobble stones on a curve .. 

Jim

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From 321design at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 02:04:16 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:04:16 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - interesting products to make life a little easier
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikHyJBW8Tdbcw21DnMP00ApHUYOfcv4FYePtwRY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <19846.456b24cd.393d8db7@aol.com>
	<-9166103735235457909@unknownmsgid>
	<AANLkTikHyJBW8Tdbcw21DnMP00ApHUYOfcv4FYePtwRY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik1rTA488sFJnYKGfYhWIM9r7haeA4B0KYGzjU4@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/6/10, Rob H <321design at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> However, Rob the REAL solution is the washlet!! ?The heated seat is
> just the start of the entire experience.
>
> http://www.thingsasian.com/stories-photos/26064
>
> http://www.performancetoilets.com/s/toto-washlets.html
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan#Japanese_bidets
>
> Even "just paper" still beats chugi
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nara_period_toilet_paper.jpg
>
> For good measure Nov 10 is "Toilet Day"


OK, These "squirting" toilets could be dangerous if not aimed
correctly. But as a matter of fact, the company I work for is
currently constructing a new building. Since the owner is Taiwanese,
he wants all of the toilets to be like this. I wonder if they will
have a demo day?
-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 02:18:00 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:18:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - interesting products to make life a little easier
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik1rTA488sFJnYKGfYhWIM9r7haeA4B0KYGzjU4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <19846.456b24cd.393d8db7@aol.com>
	<-9166103735235457909@unknownmsgid>
	<AANLkTikHyJBW8Tdbcw21DnMP00ApHUYOfcv4FYePtwRY@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik1rTA488sFJnYKGfYhWIM9r7haeA4B0KYGzjU4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikdxa8EuGg_ASmEx56XkSIkk_kT2YEKg8-KOSDu@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/6/10, Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 6/6/10, Rob H <321design at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK, These "squirting" toilets could be dangerous if not aimed
>  correctly. But as a matter of fact, the company I work for is
>  currently constructing a new building. Since the owner is Taiwanese,
>  he wants all of the toilets to be like this. I wonder if they will
>  have a demo day?

Read some of the URLs that I gave.  They give some good hints.  Note
that there may be more "cleanup" time since there is the washing phase
and then the "drying".  I would consider drying important or it will
be embarassing walking out with a wet crotch.

Obviously it is part of the Japanese delayed plan for World Domination...

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From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 03:01:38 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:01:38 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Isle of Mann TT
In-Reply-To: <27651776.1275875370782.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <27651776.1275875370782.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikMtWjacqzpAzH9ZOZ7_B-4JQLwa8RkIvsZ6NBU@mail.gmail.com>

> Keith Amor (5) (L1) ? ? 2010 BMW S1000RR 1000cc 04:28.46 ? ? ? ?130.072 (04:28.47)
>
> Wish I was there ...
>
> Enjoyed two days there a LONG time ago during practice .. what a rush... NO I did not drive anything
>
> Watched a Bultco doing well over 100 on cobble stones on a curve ..
>
> Jim


When you click on "Grandstand" it gives the fastest speed to an
electric motorcycle, 44 MPH to the Zero Agni.

The Agni motor won the first Isle of Man race for electric bikes last year.

Dano

From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net  Mon Jun  7 11:00:21 2010
From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 07:00:21 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Labrador-Newfoundland Trip - Who's Going?
Message-ID: <D1EDA776A2CE4E749D177F6B1541C673@home.robinson.org>

Ok gang we are less than 2 months from departure. We need to nail down who 
is going so that we can plan for ferry and lodging arraingments if needed. 
If you are seriously interested in going please let me know now. I know 1 or 
2 of you may not know till the week or so before departure and thats ok. We 
can always squeeze 1 or 2 in at the last minute. Thanks!

Jim Robinson
West Chester PA


From jweiss11 at comcast.net  Mon Jun  7 11:22:46 2010
From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:22:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Labrador-Newfoundland Trip - Who's Going?
In-Reply-To: <D1EDA776A2CE4E749D177F6B1541C673@home.robinson.org>
References: <D1EDA776A2CE4E749D177F6B1541C673@home.robinson.org>
Message-ID: <A37CFAA44D7B41D8B765EC7BFD3641C1@jackde48df08c6>


Ok gang we are less than 2 months from departure. We need to nail down who 
is going so that we can plan for ferry and lodging arraingments if needed. 
If you are seriously interested in going please let me know now. I know 1 or

2 of you may not know till the week or so before departure and thats ok. We 
can always squeeze 1 or 2 in at the last minute. Thanks!

Jim Robinson
West Chester PA

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I am in.

Jack Weiss


From mrmevans at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 11:44:43 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:44:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Accident in the News Yesterday - 2 bikes Plus Car
Message-ID: <AANLkTike5-jfXb6mO2Td4xD_8TiElnIMyMM4SyojLepk@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.pottsmerc.com/articles/2010/06/07/news/srv0000008472534.txt

>From the article one rider drifted into the oncoming lane on a curve
and collided with an approaching cage. - Laurel Road in Boyertown.

The second rider sounds like target fixation and followed him.

Both bikes caught fire - from the photo it is difficult to tell what
kinds of bikes they once were. The article says Harley but they don't
look to me like Harley exhaust or brakes...unless they were Buell?

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From tpcutter at aol.com  Mon Jun  7 13:26:41 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:26:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Accident in the News Yesterday - 2 bikes Plus Car
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTike5-jfXb6mO2Td4xD_8TiElnIMyMM4SyojLepk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTike5-jfXb6mO2Td4xD_8TiElnIMyMM4SyojLepk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD45C33720ACD-1AD0-23775@webmail-m097.sysops.aol.com>


<<http://www.pottsmerc.com/articles/2010/06/07/news/srv0000008472534.txt>
 From the article one rider drifted into the oncoming lane on a curveand 
collided with an approaching cage. - Laurel Road in Boyertown.The 
second rider sounds like target fixation and followed him.Both bikes 
caught fire - from the photo it is difficult to tell whatkinds of bikes 
they once were. The article says Harley but they don'tlook to me like 
Harley exhaust or brakes...unless they were Buell? >>

Both are Buells.

More injuries because guys take their hooligan riding to the street. 
Last week a rider down inthe Philly area ran wide in a turn and hit a 
car head-on. Took two days for police to positively identify the body.

How about a Mac-Pac Track Day? I seem to remember making that 
suggestion previously.


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Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

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From gary5410 at aol.com  Mon Jun  7 13:56:36 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:56:36 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Accident in the News Yesterday - 2 bikes Plus Car
In-Reply-To: <8CCD45C33720ACD-1AD0-23775@webmail-m097.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTike5-jfXb6mO2Td4xD_8TiElnIMyMM4SyojLepk@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCD45C33720ACD-1AD0-23775@webmail-m097.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD46060E527E0-2090-16192@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com>

I really want to do a track day! Will do if dates work!
Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com>


How about a Mac-Pac Track Day? I seem to remember making that
suggestion previously.


--?
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From Gary5410 at aol.com  Mon Jun  7 14:59:31 2010
From: Gary5410 at aol.com (Gary5410 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:59:31 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi still not on the road!
Message-ID: <336d4.9c7d0a1.393e6353@aol.com>

Craig still doesn't have his Guzzi ! He went to pick it up with a newly  
installed wiring harness. Got there and no start! Determined it was a bad 
crimp  in the new harness.....Guzzi does not want it repaired....sending another 
new  harness. The shop is going to repair instead and give him the new  
harness.
The wiring diagram colors do not match the colors of the wires on the old  
harness or the new harness and both harnesses have different colors.   ????
He is still not demanding a new bike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Maybe he can ride it next summer!
 
Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Mon Jun  7 17:21:00 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:21:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi still not on the road!
In-Reply-To: <336d4.9c7d0a1.393e6353@aol.com>
References: <336d4.9c7d0a1.393e6353@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C0D2A7C.3010208@ptd.net>

Gary5410 at aol.com wrote:
> Craig still doesn't have his Guzzi ! He went to pick it up with a newly  
> installed wiring harness. Got there and no start! Determined it was a bad 
> crimp  in the new harness.....Guzzi does not want it repaired....sending another 
> new  harness. The shop is going to repair instead and give him the new  
> harness.
> The wiring diagram colors do not match the colors of the wires on the old  
> harness or the new harness and both harnesses have different colors.   ????
> He is still not demanding a new bike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>  
> Maybe he can ride it next summer!
>  
>
>   
Man that just sucks.  Exclusivity has a steep price.

Some people have the patience of a Saint.  Some people are foolish.  Am 
trying to figure Craig out.

Chris Jaccarino

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 17:45:26 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:45:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] There are/were some DEDICATED RIDERS out there.
Message-ID: <AANLkTilq1OnjocGmh4pDzohoCaegRC_CWt7oD2MHaIzc@mail.gmail.com>

Going crosscountry on a _1914_ HD!!  The URL below is the guy that
"found" him crossing Nevada on US-50 "The Loneliest Highway".  There
are links to the "crossee's" blog in the URL below.


http://www.goraiders.org/bike/100603ShakeDownRide/4.html

If you have crossed via US-50 you really appreciate desolation or "not
much here is there?"

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 17:58:15 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:58:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Not your average motorized bicycle...
Message-ID: <AANLkTinzyj17e9rQebt2bWfXu4qIUw5XXvjj1kueixQc@mail.gmail.com>

http://modvespa.com/old-skool-motor-bikes/
(WS)

I like the front drum brake.  The high rise handlebars.  The mirror
mount to match.  However the sidecar and fuel tanks are just AMAZING.

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From tpcutter at aol.com  Mon Jun  7 18:24:43 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:24:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Accident in the News Yesterday - 2 bikes Plus Car
In-Reply-To: <8CCD46060E527E0-2090-16192@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTike5-jfXb6mO2Td4xD_8TiElnIMyMM4SyojLepk@mail.gmail.com>
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	<8CCD46060E527E0-2090-16192@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com>
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<<I really want to do a track day! Will do if dates work!Gary 
Christman'07 R 1200 GS Adventure>>

Gary-

I do all of the Absolute Cycle track days, as well as all of the Roger 
Lyle Motorcycle Xcitement Track days.

http://www.absolutecycle.com/raceshop/

http://www.motorcyclexcitement.com/

Find a date that works for you, let me know you are coming.


--?
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Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Christman <gary5410 at aol.com>
To: tpcutter at aol.com; mrmevans at gmail.com; mac-pac-l at jtan.com
Sent: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:56 am
Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Accident in the News Yesterday - 2 bikes Plus Car


I really want to do a track day! Will do if dates work!Gary 
Christman'07 R 1200 GS Adventure-----Original Message-----From: Tom 
Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com>How about a Mac-Pac Track Day? I seem to 
remember making thatsuggestion previously.--?Tom Cutter
  

From tpcutter at aol.com  Mon Jun  7 19:10:34 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 15:10:34 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] There are/were some DEDICATED RIDERS out there.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilq1OnjocGmh4pDzohoCaegRC_CWt7oD2MHaIzc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilq1OnjocGmh4pDzohoCaegRC_CWt7oD2MHaIzc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD48C3DBABC24-BC8-6A1@webmail-m043.sysops.aol.com>


<<Going crosscountry on a _1914_ HD!!  The URL below is the guy 
that"found" him crossing Nevada on US-50 "The Loneliest Highway".  
Thereare links to the "crossee's" blog in the URL 
below.http://www.goraiders.org/bike/100603ShakeDownRide/4.htmlIf you 
have crossed via US-50 you really appreciate desolation or "notmuch 
here is there?"  >>

Very cool. When I was a kid and had just gotten my first motorcycle, I 
worked at a local gas station pumping gas. (Remember when American kids 
worked at the gas station?)

An old woman came in while I was futzing with my bike. She got out of 
her car and walked over, told me it was a "nice motorbike." (She was 
very charitable, the bike was a 1969 Bridgestone DT-175 Hurricane 
Scrambler, hardly a "nice bike.")

Then she dug an old yellowed photo out of her purse and started to tell 
a story about how her first husband had bought a 1914 Harley-Davidson 
and equipped it with a sidecar when she was expecting a child. Then he 
got inducted (or whatever they called it in those days) into the Navy, 
and sent to San Diego as his first duty station.

She stayed home, until the baby was born and about another year. By 
then, lots of soldiers were going off to war and not coming home, and 
she tried to get her husband to quit the navy and come home, but he 
couldn't get his commanding officer to allow him to get a family 
hardship discharge. So she decided that she had to speak to the 
commanding officer face to face. She packed her two kids, one of whom 
was still a toddler, and rode the H-D to San Diego from Vermont. In 
those days most of the cross-country highways were not yet paved, and 
many were pocked with mud holes and rutted horribly. One of the photos 
showed her kids sitting in the sidecar which was mired in mud up to the 
axles. That was one tough broad.

Now some women cry like babies if their nail appointment gets 
cancelled...


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???


From chrisjac at ptd.net  Mon Jun  7 19:25:24 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 15:25:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:  Gonorrhea Lectim
Message-ID: <4C0D47A4.30900@ptd.net>

This is very important we need to stop the spread of this disease.
Information about Gonorrhea Lectim

The Center for Disease Control has issued a warning about a new virulent 
strain of this old disease. The disease is called Gonorrhea Lectim. It's 
pronounced "Gonna re-elect 'em," and it is a terrible obamanation.
 
The disease is contracted through dangerous and high risk behavior 
involving putting your cranium up your rectum. Many victims contracted 
it in 2008...but now most people, after having been infected for the 
past 1-2 years, are starting to realize how destructive this sickness is.
 
It's sad because Gonorrhea Lectim is easily cured with a new drug just 
coming on the market called Votemout. You take the first dose in 2010 
and the second dose in 2012 and simply don't engage in such behavior 
again; otherwise, it could become permanent and eventually wipe out all 
life as we know it.
 
Several states are already on top of this, like Virginia and New Jersey, 
and apparently now Massachusetts, with many more seeing the writing on 
the wall.
 
Please pass this important message on to all those bright folk you 
really care about.


__________________________________________________

I dont write this stuff...just passing it along.

Chris Jaccarino

From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 19:34:23 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 15:34:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sweet Hard Drive on Sale
In-Reply-To: <CCD51242AE9D44999950F3994B0D4433@9200c>
References: <AANLkTimPOKUdcMGK_BZVm8rSLrNEzwM3PB7LpFn9p09Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<347E765B43444393BBFB427826E6A085@9200c>
	<4C08FCAC.7010109@argolis.org>
	<CCD51242AE9D44999950F3994B0D4433@9200c>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikYIPGt0iAm9eRaBEzSyu8y8Xcv7jpjF6H3VW4x@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Steve Makohin <wateredg at interlog.com> wrote:
> Hello Matt,
<SNIP>
> Let me know if you've heard anything that indicates an SSD starts out faster
> than an HD, and consistently stays that way, regardless of use. And what the
> user needs to do to make that a reality.
>
> It's just a matter of time before these kinks get ironed out. I can't wait
> for that day :-)


SSD's aren't perfect and are only worth the effort in very specific
situations.  For Tom C., we let the SSD basically hold the OS and
program files.  The data for those program files would be stored on an
external hard drive.  This allowed the SSD to focus on just turning on
the machine for access to the net and data stored elsewhere.

This process/behaviour design was to minimize the TRIM and
fragmentation potential issues the early SSD's are susceptible to.
As far as failure goes...its not exactly a worry due to the way the
orginal backup(external HD) is setup.  Pop in the external HD into the
laptop and you're up and running...since its a cloned copy of the
drive...but it includes data.

But failure in general of the SSD drives versus legacy HD(LHD) varies
so much that its tough to discern, let alone debate. Some things that
SSD's are prone to fail as a result of, LHDs are not...and vice versa.

No matter what...the above advert for an SSD was as cheap as you'll
find and was worth sharing with those who needed one, but price was an
obstacle.


-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From wayne at 2zars.com  Mon Jun  7 19:38:47 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 15:38:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rick's email on the cheese steak run posted on the site
Message-ID: <AANLkTikZ1zcMTYdgV2FOVUQZRKmHqGCLSzq8cMuu-_vb@mail.gmail.com>

http://mac-pac.2zars.com/


-- 
Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Mon Jun  7 20:21:07 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:21:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rick's email on the cheese steak run posted on the
 site
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikZ1zcMTYdgV2FOVUQZRKmHqGCLSzq8cMuu-_vb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <847775723.2698551275942067494.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

>Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rick's email on the cheese steak run posted on the site 
> 
>http://mac-pac.2zars.com/ 

Excellent posting. Could we get an address for Vito's please? 

Thanks! 

John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 20:30:27 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:30:27 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi still not on the road!
In-Reply-To: <4C0D2A7C.3010208@ptd.net>
References: <336d4.9c7d0a1.393e6353@aol.com>
	<4C0D2A7C.3010208@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilenGe6LVojvkwyVj1GfGqhodMVekxjxQthMrr4@mail.gmail.com>

>> The wiring diagram colors do not match the colors of the wires on the old
>> harness or the new harness and both harnesses have different colors. ? ????
>> He is still not demanding a new bike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> Maybe he can ride it next summer!
>>
>>
>>
> Man that just sucks. ?Exclusivity has a steep price.
>
> Some people have the patience of a Saint. ?Some people are foolish. ?Am
> trying to figure Craig out.
>
> Chris Jaccarino


If it's Italian, FUGITABOUDIT.

Dano

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  7 21:54:03 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:54:03 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rick's email on the cheese steak run posted on the
 site
Message-ID: <29452901.1275947643545.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>>Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rick's email on the cheese steak run posted on the site 
>> 
>>http://mac-pac.2zars.com/ 
>
>Excellent posting. Could we get an address for Vito's please? 
>
>Thanks! 
>
>John Clauss 
You ask, you get

Vito's - 582 Shoemaker Rd King of Prussia

Jim (still enjoying the memories of all)

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 21:59:35 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:59:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rick's email on the cheese steak run posted on the
	site
In-Reply-To: <29452901.1275947643545.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <29452901.1275947643545.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilwxMPbMdiRSi-uYj30Evuj5j3F7mO0tJ3vph2H@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/7/10, Jim Sterling <jasiii at earthlink.net> wrote:

>  >Excellent posting. Could we get an address for Vito's please?
>  >
>  >Thanks!
>  >
>  >John Clauss
>
> You ask, you get
>
>  Vito's - 582 Shoemaker Rd King of Prussia

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=582+Shoemaker+Rd,+King+of+Prussia,+pa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=33.572881,77.431641&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=582+Shoemaker+Rd,+King+of+Prussia,+Montgomery,+Pennsylvania+19406&t=h&z=16

I am sure there is a way to translate that to GPS coordinates, but I
am not the person that can do that.  GPS user have that knowledge, or
did someone take them while they were there?


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From mmehalik at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 00:31:59 2010
From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:31:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rick's email on the cheese steak run posted on the
	site
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilwxMPbMdiRSi-uYj30Evuj5j3F7mO0tJ3vph2H@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29452901.1275947643545.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<AANLkTilwxMPbMdiRSi-uYj30Evuj5j3F7mO0tJ3vph2H@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilNWnqWvYvHx5a6gw7FViiq-AxH1zD8AVFtN2lJ@mail.gmail.com>

Gmaps got the exact location wrong (assuming that address is correct),
hopefully it got the lat-lon right. I got it by looking at the sat
pic, I drive by vitos almost every morning.

40.078604, -75.358589 should get you just to the right of the front door.

-mark


On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/7/10, Jim Sterling <jasiii at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> ?>Excellent posting. Could we get an address for Vito's please?
>> ?>
>> ?>Thanks!
>> ?>
>> ?>John Clauss
>>
>> You ask, you get
>>
>> ?Vito's - 582 Shoemaker Rd King of Prussia
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=582+Shoemaker+Rd,+King+of+Prussia,+pa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=33.572881,77.431641&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=582+Shoemaker+Rd,+King+of+Prussia,+Montgomery,+Pennsylvania+19406&t=h&z=16
>
> I am sure there is a way to translate that to GPS coordinates, but I
> am not the person that can do that. ?GPS user have that knowledge, or
> did someone take them while they were there?
>
>
> --
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From jasiii at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  8 01:51:46 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:51:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] JB Weld Question
Message-ID: <C8331A72.4296%jasiii@earthlink.net>

Good Day All

I have not yet worked with JB Weld.. But I am about to

I have a handlebar switch part for a Honda that is no longer made and it is
broken but both pieces 'fit'

Does anyone have any tips or tricks to working with this stuff ??

I know to wear some latex gloves but beyond that I am going into new ground
where I have NO experience so any suggestions would be most appreciated

Can this stuff be layered ?? Or should I use extra on the first pass ??

?? 

Thanks in advance 

Jim



From Braveirwin at aol.com  Tue Jun  8 02:01:46 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:01:46 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Maybe cell phone use is not that bad...
Message-ID: <7a9cc.3df3069e.393efe8a@aol.com>



In a message dated 6/1/2010 8:01:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
bmwbrian at gmail.com writes:

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/06/driving-distraction-survey/
(WS,  but disturbing.)

"According to Jabra, which makes phone headsets, 15  percent of people
surveyed said they ?have performed sex or other sexual  acts? while
driving. There?s always the possibility people are claiming  they?re
getting freaky in traffic to sound cool, but the survey found  many
drivers are doing more than driving while  commuting."
========================================
 
"disturbing"? Only 15%? I thought I was part of a much larger group.  Roddy.

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From corey.lyba at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 02:20:24 2010
From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:20:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rick's email on the cheese steak run posted on the
	site
In-Reply-To: <847775723.2698551275942067494.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <AANLkTikZ1zcMTYdgV2FOVUQZRKmHqGCLSzq8cMuu-_vb@mail.gmail.com>
	<847775723.2698551275942067494.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilzTls-QiGG6mhHgeT7DNymgD_H3RX9kl_hAw4A@mail.gmail.com>

Vito's is actually 580 Shoemaker Drive, but that's just the difference
between the top of the hill and the bottom.

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 02:22:39 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:22:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Maybe cell phone use is not that bad...
In-Reply-To: <7a9cc.3df3069e.393efe8a@aol.com>
References: <7a9cc.3df3069e.393efe8a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinBPnCu0u5e_ka0KJLNz1DVG4SZY7sQdOJNiU1s@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:01 PM,  <Braveirwin at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 6/1/2010 8:01:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> bmwbrian at gmail.com writes:
>
> http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/06/driving-distraction-survey/
> (WS, ?but disturbing.)
>
> "According to Jabra, which makes phone headsets, 15 ?percent of people
> surveyed said they ?have performed sex or other sexual ?acts? while
> driving. There?s always the possibility people are claiming ?they?re
> getting freaky in traffic to sound cool, but the survey found ?many
> drivers are doing more than driving while ?commuting."
> ========================================
>
> "disturbing"? Only 15%? I thought I was part of a much larger group. ?Roddy.
>

Fear not Roddy, everybody has done this but 85% will not admit to it.


-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 02:36:57 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:36:57 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] JB Weld Question
In-Reply-To: <C8331A72.4296%jasiii@earthlink.net>
References: <C8331A72.4296%jasiii@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinBpVg5I7qhJmWuaaB2TJglCo1z3PdNRCdPoP-1@mail.gmail.com>

JB WELD
> Can this stuff be layered ?? Or should I use extra on the first pass ??
>
> ??
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Jim


Hi Jim,

I have used JB WELD but have not tried layering it.

Just mixed the two parts thoroughly and buttered it on to what ever in
one shot.

Be sure to have wipes to get it off of what it shouldn't be on.

It can be filed or sanded after complete cure.

In other words "Yer on Yer Own."

Dano

From progress49 at comcast.net  Tue Jun  8 02:43:32 2010
From: progress49 at comcast.net (Panagiotis)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:43:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Watkins Glenn
Message-ID: <C8332694.238E2%progress49@comcast.net>

Hello all,

I'm planning on taking a bike trip to Watkins Glenn with my sister her
husband, and her son (they all ride), on the weekend of the 4th. Any
suggestions for places to stay, things to do, or things to look out for. The
last time I was there was about 15 years ago, but I remember it as being a
great area.

Thanks,

Peter X



From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 02:46:13 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:46:13 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 8 Yr. Batt. life (no tender)
Message-ID: <AANLkTikHyzJ0u7HprKfBDJRcFxaWB9jtx1Eoby4YmNfg@mail.gmail.com>

I had to replace my battery today (on the FXRS).  Checked the
installation date. It was April 2002.

It's never had a battery tender, just a bimonthly overnight boost
charge with a 4 amp tapering charger. Regulator charges at 14.5 volts
or a little more (it is 15 yrs old).

Would you call that good batt. life??  Anybody seen better??

ECO Dano

Greensboro NC

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 03:01:01 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 23:01:01 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 8 Yr. Batt. life (no tender)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikHyzJ0u7HprKfBDJRcFxaWB9jtx1Eoby4YmNfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikHyzJ0u7HprKfBDJRcFxaWB9jtx1Eoby4YmNfg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilqDEqu9S0HhZdCwx3pMHr5xJnhzK2dXaL7UY_R@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/7/10, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Would you call that good batt. life??  Anybody seen better??

I have seen 9 years once.  I think it was a fluke.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 03:07:38 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 23:07:38 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Someone has us pegged, or we are getting a reputation...
Message-ID: <AANLkTimYoJWAAJOvjjzPAipX54c7GCWLa7eX5n4EJYqk@mail.gmail.com>

We just had a new person join.  (Fool...)  (No I am not outing them.)

Included in their request was this:

"Qualifications:1999 BMW R1100S, tools, and healthy appetite"

I got a real giggle out of the last part of the "qualifications".
Little do they know what a "madhouse" they are joining. ;);)

A DAMN chatty madhouse running at over 30 posts a day average.

Welcome to the FNGs, the prior FNGs are now OFNGs which makes  them happier....

Thankfully none of these people have said that they expect to be
respected for their stature in some community.  Respect is hard to get
here, or you can get it, but it does not stick well at all.  ("Symbols
of authority" don't even help...)

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From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun  8 03:16:06 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:16:06 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Someone has us pegged,
	or we are getting a reputation...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimYoJWAAJOvjjzPAipX54c7GCWLa7eX5n4EJYqk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimYoJWAAJOvjjzPAipX54c7GCWLa7eX5n4EJYqk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD4D01171D49C-30C-3DD7@webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com>


<<Thankfully none of these people have said that they expect to 
berespected for their stature in some community.  Respect is hard to 
gethere, or you can get it, but it does not stick well at all.  
("Symbolsof authority" don't even help...)>>

True, we don;t do "respect" to well, but we got notoriety covered like 
a jimmy hat.

Just save up some used crush washers and find out for yourself. Or 
mention a goat in any context.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???

From piechota at argolis.org  Tue Jun  8 03:30:55 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:30:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Watkins Glenn
In-Reply-To: <C8332694.238E2%progress49@comcast.net>
References: <C8332694.238E2%progress49@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C0DB96F.4060800@argolis.org>

Panagiotis wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I'm planning on taking a bike trip to Watkins Glenn with my sister her
> husband, and her son (they all ride), on the weekend of the 4th. Any
> suggestions for places to stay, things to do, or things to look out for. The
> last time I was there was about 15 years ago, but I remember it as being a
> great area.

There are a dozen good wineries around Senaca Lake (and one brewery on 
the far end).  I'm not much of a wine drinker, but I've heard the 
climate in the finger lakes is similar to the wine-making regions of 
France and California, and the wines are of similar quality.

Ithaca is not too far; it's a cool town for a day trip.  Lots of shops 
and restaurants, mostly in an open-mall kind of format.  There's a place 
called 'Maxi's Supper Club' (not in the walking area), which does some 
pretty good New Orleans food.  It's one of my favorite restaurants. 
http://www.maxies.com/index2.html  There are some really pretty places 
to hike as well, the town 'motto' is 'Ithaca is Gorges', lots of 
waterfalls and big drop offs.

There are some decent roads to the West, but there are some really nice 
roads roughly an hour south towards Wellsboro.  Jim Robinson, Brad 
Jacoby, and I took a nice ride around during the Finger Lakes Rally a 
couple years ago.

Corning NY is nearby.  I've heard the glass museum and tour is pretty 
cool, and the old part of Corning is nice to walk around.

From piechota at argolis.org  Tue Jun  8 03:34:45 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:34:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Someone has us pegged,
	or we are getting a reputation...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimYoJWAAJOvjjzPAipX54c7GCWLa7eX5n4EJYqk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimYoJWAAJOvjjzPAipX54c7GCWLa7eX5n4EJYqk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C0DBA55.5060500@argolis.org>

Brian Curry wrote:
> We just had a new person join.  (Fool...)  (No I am not outing them.)
> 
> Included in their request was this:
> 
> "Qualifications:1999 BMW R1100S"

Is it yellow?  I ran into a guy at a Wawa on US202 the other day, but I 
neglected to mention my name or the PAC...

> Thankfully none of these people have said that they expect to be
> respected for their stature in some community.  Respect is hard to get
> here, or you can get it, but it does not stick well at all.  ("Symbols
> of authority" don't even help...)

The MAC-PAC is something of a meritocracy.  That's generally a good 
thing. :)

From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun  8 03:50:22 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:50:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Watkins Glenn
In-Reply-To: <4C0DB96F.4060800@argolis.org>
References: <C8332694.238E2%progress49@comcast.net>
	<4C0DB96F.4060800@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <8CCD4D4DB09F2DE-30C-415C@webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com>

Matt P. posted:
<<There are a dozen good wineries around Senaca Lake (and one brewery 
on the far end).  I'm not much of a wine drinker, but I've heard the 
climate in the finger lakes is similar to the wine-making regions of 
France and California, and the wines are of similar quality.Ithaca is 
not too far; it's a cool town for a day trip.  Lots of shops and 
restaurants, mostly in an open-mall kind of format.  There's a place 
called 'Maxi's Supper Club' (not in the walking area), which does some 
pretty good New Orleans food.  It's one of my favorite restaurants. 
http://www.maxies.com/index2.html  There are some really pretty places 
to hike as well, the town 'motto' is 'Ithaca is Gorges', lots of 
waterfalls and big drop offs.There are some decent roads to the West, 
but there are some really nice roads roughly an hour south towards 
Wellsboro.  Jim Robinson, Brad Jacoby, and I took a nice ride around 
during the Finger Lakes Rally a couple years ago.Corning NY is nearby.  
I've heard the glass museum and tour is pretty cool, and the old part 
of Corning is nice to walk around.>>

I concur. Before I stopped drinking ( to leave a little for the rest of 
y'all) I used to visit Wagner Vineyards on the east side of Seneca Lake 
every year when I went to the Finger Lakes Rally. They have a nice tour 
and will ship your cases of wine home fo r you.

Corning Glass Works is worth a whole day visit. We just visited the 
Murano Glass Factories in Venice, Italy, and I can say with feigned 
authority that they are crap compared to Corning Glass Works.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???

From Ducdude at verizon.net  Tue Jun  8 10:36:25 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:36:25 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 8 Yr. Batt. life (no tender)
References: <AANLkTikHyzJ0u7HprKfBDJRcFxaWB9jtx1Eoby4YmNfg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B6432D6622784898B9DDD80651D54A1E@heilveil5e3fdd>

I had to replace my battery today (on the FXRS).  Checked the
> installation date. It was April 2002.
> 
> It's never had a battery tender, just a bimonthly overnight boost
> charge with a 4 amp tapering charger. Regulator charges at 14.5 volts
> or a little more (it is 15 yrs old).
> 
> Would you call that good batt. life??  Anybody seen better??
> 
> ECO Dano


I am coming up on 6 or 7 years on a PC680 Odyssey  battery from the 900ss..

Duc

From Ducdude at verizon.net  Tue Jun  8 10:38:12 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:38:12 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 8 Yr. Batt. life (no tender)
References: <AANLkTikHyzJ0u7HprKfBDJRcFxaWB9jtx1Eoby4YmNfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilqDEqu9S0HhZdCwx3pMHr5xJnhzK2dXaL7UY_R@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <778D51FF203F46B6A5135819BCABD4CF@heilveil5e3fdd>




> On 6/7/10, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>  Would you call that good batt. life??  Anybody seen better??
> 
> I have seen 9 years once.  I think it was a fluke.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------

"I think it was a fluke."

Was that the battery life or what you tested it with??
I think I am FINished here

Duc


From Braveirwin at aol.com  Tue Jun  8 10:53:08 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 06:53:08 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Maybe cell phone use is not that bad...
Message-ID: <8b79b.6068950c.393f7b14@aol.com>



In a message dated 6/7/2010 10:22:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com writes:

Fear not  Roddy, everybody has done this but 85% will not admit to it.
=================================
Thanks; I was starting to feel lonely,


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From Braveirwin at aol.com  Tue Jun  8 10:54:53 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 06:54:53 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Watkins Glenn
Message-ID: <8b850.4876cf77.393f7b7d@aol.com>



In a message dated 6/7/2010 10:43:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
progress49 at comcast.net writes:

Hello  all,

I'm planning on taking a bike trip to Watkins Glenn with my sister  her
husband, and her son (they all ride), on the weekend of the 4th.  Any
suggestions for places to stay, things to do, or things to look out  for. 
The
last time I was there was about 15 years ago, but I remember it as  being a
great area.

Thanks,

Peter  X
======================================
Corning Glass and Curtis museums.



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From jasiii at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  8 12:08:21 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:08:21 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 8 Yr. Batt. life (no tender)
Message-ID: <33075048.1275998901619.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>Subject: [MAC-PAC] 8 Yr. Batt. life (no tender)
>
>I had to replace my battery today (on the FXRS).  Checked the
>installation date. It was April 2002.
>
>It's never had a battery tender, just a bimonthly overnight boost
>charge with a 4 amp tapering charger. Regulator charges at 14.5 volts
>or a little more (it is 15 yrs old).
>
>Would you call that good batt. life??  Anybody seen better??
>
>ECO Dano
>

I got 10 years from a Odyssey PC608 once.. but 8 years is very good.

Oh and a bimonthly charge is very good thing for a refreshing a battery. 

Enjoy the ride

Jim

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From jasiii at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  8 12:11:55 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:11:55 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Watkins Glenn
Message-ID: <28721591.1275999116007.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>
>Hello all,
>
>I'm planning on taking a bike trip to Watkins Glenn with my sister her
>husband, and her son (they all ride), on the weekend of the 4th. Any
>suggestions for places to stay, things to do, or things to look out for. The
>last time I was there was about 15 years ago, but I remember it as being a
>great area.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Peter X
>
Corning is a good visit
Lots of wineries; most good
Lots of good riding roads 
And more then a few shoppes for antiques

Enjoy the time; I am looking forward to the Labor day Rally 

Jim

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From wateredg at interlog.com  Tue Jun  8 12:25:37 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:25:37 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sweet Hard Drive on Sale
References: <AANLkTimPOKUdcMGK_BZVm8rSLrNEzwM3PB7LpFn9p09Q@mail.gmail.com><347E765B43444393BBFB427826E6A085@9200c><4C08FCAC.7010109@argolis.org><CCD51242AE9D44999950F3994B0D4433@9200c>
	<AANLkTikYIPGt0iAm9eRaBEzSyu8y8Xcv7jpjF6H3VW4x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FC4E790E1CD34A7F8B49359CDCD0F8CC@9200c>

Hello Edde,

From: "edde m" <motoedde2 at gmail.com>

> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Steve Makohin <wateredg at interlog.com> 
> wrote:
>> Hello Matt,
> <SNIP>
>> Let me know if you've heard anything that indicates an SSD starts out 
>> faster
>> than an HD, and consistently stays that way, regardless of use. And what 
>> the
>> user needs to do to make that a reality.
>>
>> It's just a matter of time before these kinks get ironed out. I can't 
>> wait
>> for that day :-)
>
> SSD's aren't perfect and are only worth the effort in very specific
> situations.  For Tom C., we let the SSD basically hold the OS and
> program files.  The data for those program files would be stored on an
> external hard drive.  This allowed the SSD to focus on just turning on
> the machine for access to the net and data stored elsewhere.
>
> This process/behaviour design was to minimize the TRIM and
> fragmentation potential issues the early SSD's are susceptible to.
> As far as failure goes...its not exactly a worry due to the way the
> orginal backup(external HD) is setup.  Pop in the external HD into the
> laptop and you're up and running...since its a cloned copy of the
> drive...but it includes data.
>
> But failure in general of the SSD drives versus legacy HD(LHD) varies
> so much that its tough to discern, let alone debate. Some things that
> SSD's are prone to fail as a result of, LHDs are not...and vice versa.
>
> No matter what...the above advert for an SSD was as cheap as you'll
> find and was worth sharing with those who needed one, but price was an
> obstacle.

Yeah, you have pretty well nailed the perfect implementation for an SSD, and 
at a great price.

FYI, I wasn't slamming SSDs, or the ad. Just highlighting that they are not 
the magic bullet that some make them out to be.

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada


From pasegc at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 12:42:27 2010
From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:42:27 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Watkins Glenn
In-Reply-To: <C8332694.238E2%progress49@comcast.net>
References: <C8332694.238E2%progress49@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiku7NcSF16qNepjFYj6LvnLM5Vb9qU-yzjo2Y0i@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Panagiotis <progress49 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm planning on taking a bike trip to Watkins Glenn with my sister her
> husband, and her son (they all ride), on the weekend of the 4th. Any
> suggestions for places to stay, things to do, or things to look out for. The
> last time I was there was about 15 years ago, but I remember it as being a
> great area.
>
 A fantastic Art Museum in Corning, Harris Hill for glider rides and
watching, Curtis Museum in Hammonsport, early motorcycles, cars and
speed boats, and as noted many wineries.

Gerry Cavanaugh

From piechota at argolis.org  Tue Jun  8 13:27:29 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:27:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 8 Yr. Batt. life (no tender)
In-Reply-To: <B6432D6622784898B9DDD80651D54A1E@heilveil5e3fdd>
References: <AANLkTikHyzJ0u7HprKfBDJRcFxaWB9jtx1Eoby4YmNfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<B6432D6622784898B9DDD80651D54A1E@heilveil5e3fdd>
Message-ID: <4C0E4541.9090608@argolis.org>

Eric Ducdude wrote:
> I had to replace my battery today (on the FXRS).  Checked the
>> installation date. It was April 2002.
>>
>> It's never had a battery tender, just a bimonthly overnight boost
>> charge with a 4 amp tapering charger. Regulator charges at 14.5 volts
>> or a little more (it is 15 yrs old).
>>
>> Would you call that good batt. life??  Anybody seen better??
>>
>> ECO Dano
> 
> 
> I am coming up on 6 or 7 years on a PC680 Odyssey  battery from the 900ss..

I had 5.5 on the original GEL battery in my R1150R.  I just had Tom get 
me a new one this spring.  The old battery was still functional, but it 
was losing cranking power and I had to keep it on the Tender more and 
more or it would be questionable trying to start after a week or two on 
not riding.

From piechota at argolis.org  Tue Jun  8 13:28:44 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:28:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Watkins Glenn
In-Reply-To: <8b850.4876cf77.393f7b7d@aol.com>
References: <8b850.4876cf77.393f7b7d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C0E458C.5050208@argolis.org>

Braveirwin at aol.com wrote:
> Corning Glass and Curtis museums.

Oh, I forgot about the Curtis museum.  I really need to get up there and 
spend time. :)



From jweiss11 at comcast.net  Tue Jun  8 14:00:29 2010
From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:00:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Someone has us pegged,
	or we are getting a reputation...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimYoJWAAJOvjjzPAipX54c7GCWLa7eX5n4EJYqk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimYoJWAAJOvjjzPAipX54c7GCWLa7eX5n4EJYqk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2803834CDF5347BD808851682938862B@jackde48df08c6>

We just had a new person join.  (Fool...)  (No I am not outing them.)

Included in their request was this:

"Qualifications:1999 BMW R1100S, tools, and healthy appetite"

I got a real giggle out of the last part of the "qualifications".
Little do they know what a "madhouse" they are joining. ;);)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

If that new FNG is Bernie, I think I got his attention with the Cheese Steak
run conversation and the description of a bunch of BMW riding Engineers. Who
would think that Engineers that eat a lot are so chatty and downright funny.


Go figure. Welcome Bernie. 

Jack Weiss


From ephoet at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 13:48:35 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:48:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 8 Yr. Batt. life (no tender)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilqDEqu9S0HhZdCwx3pMHr5xJnhzK2dXaL7UY_R@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikHyzJ0u7HprKfBDJRcFxaWB9jtx1Eoby4YmNfg@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTilqDEqu9S0HhZdCwx3pMHr5xJnhzK2dXaL7UY_R@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik0K6Vv2HdjX2LY7tjHaPaFjqfojuEmvoBweB2D@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ?Would you call that good batt. life?? ?Anybody seen better??
>
> I have seen 9 years once. ?I think it was a fluke.
>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

I didn't know fluke was in the battery biz.  Gotta get me one of those!
Just having a little trouble locating a dealer.

www.fluke.com

EPH
West Chester

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 14:27:26 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:27:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Very Cool Motorcycle saftey ads
Message-ID: <AANLkTikz0xrJ9J9NijEXoYmcNIdm8b2GIQQss8Hwp54T@mail.gmail.com>

http://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/ads-15-great-motorcycle-safety-ads-from-the-usa.htm#dxcontinue

This one is not in the listing above.  However, it is way TRUE.
"Hard" or painful way to do it though.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_P-m5uioCLic/TAbuHJvzhsI/AAAAAAAADhA/yaUP-Ch-SvM/s1600/asphalt-1.jpg


Both WS.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 14:32:44 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:32:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Who woulda thought that Joey Dille would be a
	potential terrorist....
Message-ID: <AANLkTilsBaOeWEFSJeRcrCHISfM661b0KLN6IE4aW8Ps@mail.gmail.com>

http://apnews.myway.com//article/20100608/D9G7414G0.html
(WS)

====
"If law enforcement has a legitimate need to surveil, let them
surveil," Schumer told The Associated Press, adding, "you can make
sure privacy is protected."
====

Uh huh...  From the people that are mostly King Canute advisors.  If
we pass a law it will be.  I wonder how many pages such legislation
would take to "right" and what additional surprises would be in it...

===
That's not a view necessarily shared by civil liberties groups and
other advocates of digital privacy, who say they have both legal and
practical objections.
===

Hey, some have not drunk quite so much Kool Aid...

Down in the article they mention just a FEW of the ways that it can be
worked around or confused.  But I am sure that is too confusing for
the "elected representatives of the people"....

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From kgbruce1 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 14:34:36 2010
From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:34:36 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 8 Yr. Batt. life (no tender)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik0K6Vv2HdjX2LY7tjHaPaFjqfojuEmvoBweB2D@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikHyzJ0u7HprKfBDJRcFxaWB9jtx1Eoby4YmNfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilqDEqu9S0HhZdCwx3pMHr5xJnhzK2dXaL7UY_R@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik0K6Vv2HdjX2LY7tjHaPaFjqfojuEmvoBweB2D@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikvSCkyrEZV72XPr2FB-gp6Lc_Zaf6Icis4BTeM@mail.gmail.com>

Here you go Erik,

http://www.tequipment.net/FlukeBatteriesChargersAdapters.html

Ken Bruce

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Erik Hoet <ephoet at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>  Would you call that good batt. life??  Anybody seen better??
> >
> > I have seen 9 years once.  I think it was a fluke.
> >
>
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I didn't know fluke was in the battery biz.  Gotta get me one of those!
> Just having a little trouble locating a dealer.
>
> www.fluke.com
>
> EPH
> West Chester
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From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Tue Jun  8 14:46:54 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:46:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 8 Yr. Batt. life (no tender)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikvSCkyrEZV72XPr2FB-gp6Lc_Zaf6Icis4BTeM@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200766985.3024341276008414696.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>


> > 
> >> Would you call that good batt. life?? Anybody seen better?? 
> > 
> > I have seen 9 years once. I think it was a fluke. 

I have a related question. My tractor would not start for me to mow the lawn. Seems like I was not cranking at the right speed. I put the tender on the battery for about 1/2 hour to 45 minutes, went out and the thing turned over great and started right up. I am thinking that if the battery had a bad cell that would not have happened correct? So I am looking at the charging system. Tractor battery is about 5 years old, BTW non gel. 

John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 14:53:14 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:53:14 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Airplanes,
	I do suspect someone needed some fresh underwear
Message-ID: <AANLkTimrMbvwx17zBOtSX-8LKUO7hMEKqcVHUOzxRdO_@mail.gmail.com>

One view:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO7BuPG_vVo
Second view:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRxPsjFSCnI

The "explanation" of what happened:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CB27K-wIsM

Kinda makes levering a bike up w/ your knee being not that impressive.
Check the tail mounted shots at the beginning of the third clip.  Oh,
and how he "stayed safe"...  Uh huh, yeah right.


All WS.

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From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 14:59:45 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:59:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sweet Hard Drive on Sale
In-Reply-To: <FC4E790E1CD34A7F8B49359CDCD0F8CC@9200c>
References: <AANLkTimPOKUdcMGK_BZVm8rSLrNEzwM3PB7LpFn9p09Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<347E765B43444393BBFB427826E6A085@9200c>
	<4C08FCAC.7010109@argolis.org>
	<CCD51242AE9D44999950F3994B0D4433@9200c>
	<AANLkTikYIPGt0iAm9eRaBEzSyu8y8Xcv7jpjF6H3VW4x@mail.gmail.com>
	<FC4E790E1CD34A7F8B49359CDCD0F8CC@9200c>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinfTYfTsMlO-T9WMc9cG93u3PYSWC57omDbmcIu@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Steve Makohin <wateredg at interlog.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
> Yeah, you have pretty well nailed the perfect implementation for an SSD, and
> at a great price.
>
> FYI, I wasn't slamming SSDs, or the ad. Just highlighting that they are not
> the magic bullet that some make them out to be.


I wasn't construing it as a slam...but a good reminder that its a new
technology whose vices aren't as well known as its virtues.



-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  8 15:17:13 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 11:17:13 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 8 Yr. Batt. life (no tender)
Message-ID: <31281011.1276010233827.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>
>I have a related question. My tractor would not start for me to mow the lawn. Seems like I was not cranking at the right speed. I put the tender on the battery for about 1/2 hour to 45 minutes, went out and the thing turned over great and started right up. I am thinking that if the battery had a bad cell that would not have happened correct? So I am looking at the charging system. Tractor battery is about 5 years old, BTW non gel. 
>
>John Clauss 

Are the cells full ?? if not fill with distilled water

is the spark plug clean ?? that too can make it hard to start 

How old is the gas ?? 

How old is the tractor ?? if it is 10 ++ years old are the cables for the charging and starter snug/tight (NOT Superman tight but)

A freshly charged battery may cover up so of the other weak points.. 

Hope this helps

Jim

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From jasiii at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  8 15:22:12 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 11:22:12 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Airplanes,
 I do suspect someone needed some fresh underwear
Message-ID: <24886374.1276010532332.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I do suspect someone needed some fresh underwear
>
>One view:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO7BuPG_vVo
>Second view:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRxPsjFSCnI
>
>The "explanation" of what happened:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CB27K-wIsM
>
Yep ... one change of skivvies please... 

Jim (sitting safely at home)

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 15:53:42 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 11:53:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 8 Yr. Batt. life (no tender)
In-Reply-To: <31281011.1276010233827.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <31281011.1276010233827.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinDzV4hHDYjGxONTPLFNWyQIwWA8ibrERe3mdgp@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/8/10, Jim Sterling <jasiii at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
>  >I have a related question. My tractor would not start for me to mow the lawn. Seems like I was not cranking at the right speed. I put the tender on the battery for about 1/2 hour to 45 minutes, went out and the thing turned over great and started right up. I am thinking that if the battery had a bad cell that would not have happened correct?

Not correct.  With a single cell shoring out internally, you can throw
charge into it  and have it "act good" for a while.

 So I am looking at the charging system. Tractor battery is about 5
years old, BTW non gel.

Charging systems are HARD to check.  Batteries are EASY.


> Are the cells full ?? if not fill with distilled water

Even more if you have one "full" and the others low, the "full" one is
a dead cell and the others are "good" even though it does not matter,
as all have to be replaced.

>  How old is the tractor ?? if it is 10 ++ years old are the cables for the charging and starter snug/tight (NOT Superman tight but)

Take it to snapping the bolt and back off a smidge....

>  A freshly charged battery may cover up so of the other weak points..

But battery checks are SO much  easier to do than other electrical stuff.


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From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Tue Jun  8 18:41:13 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:41:13 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 8 Yr. Batt. life (no tender)
In-Reply-To: <200766985.3024341276008414696.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.ma
	il.comcast.net>
References: <AANLkTikvSCkyrEZV72XPr2FB-gp6Lc_Zaf6Icis4BTeM@mail.gmail.com>
	<200766985.3024341276008414696.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <65087.12.181.211.35.1276022473.squirrel@12.181.211.35>

>
>> >
>> >> Would you call that good batt. life?? Anybody seen better??
>> >
>> > I have seen 9 years once. I think it was a fluke.
>
> I have a related question. My tractor would not start for me to mow the
> lawn.

It is a sign from God.  Go riding instead!

 Seems like I was not cranking at the right speed. I put the tender
> on the battery for about 1/2 hour to 45 minutes, went out and the thing
> turned over great and started right up. I am thinking that if the battery
> had a bad cell that would not have happened correct? So I am looking at
> the charging system. Tractor battery is about 5 years old, BTW non gel.
>
>

I would check the charging system and also check the connections in the
starting circuit.

Ride safe,

Joe


From progress49 at comcast.net  Tue Jun  8 20:52:28 2010
From: progress49 at comcast.net (Panagiotis)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:52:28 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Watkins Glenn
In-Reply-To: <4C0DB96F.4060800@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <C83425CC.2392B%progress49@comcast.net>




> 
> There are some decent roads to the West, but there are some really nice
> roads roughly an hour south towards Wellsboro.  Jim Robinson, Brad
> Jacoby, and I took a nice ride around during the Finger Lakes Rally a
> couple years ago.
> 
> Corning NY is nearby.  I've heard the glass museum and tour is pretty
> cool, and the old part of Corning is nice to walk around.

Thanks Matt,

Some of that stuff sounds right down our alley. My sister just picked up a
new R1200RT and sounds like some things she might enjoy.

Peter X



From mrmevans at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 00:12:51 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 20:12:51 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Crossing Musical Boundaries
Message-ID: <AANLkTil7O56FMEJNmQcUFw4m7FVO26xR2W0CbJlJ0BPk@mail.gmail.com>

Nice to see some folks not afraid to cross muscical boundaries...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1kjkUAA9VM&feature=related

SFW

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From piechota at argolis.org  Wed Jun  9 00:39:09 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:39:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Crossing Musical Boundaries
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil7O56FMEJNmQcUFw4m7FVO26xR2W0CbJlJ0BPk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil7O56FMEJNmQcUFw4m7FVO26xR2W0CbJlJ0BPk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C0EE2AD.9080602@argolis.org>

Michael Evans wrote:
> Nice to see some folks not afraid to cross musical boundaries...
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1kjkUAA9VM&feature=related
> SFW

This probably isn't new for some, but Johnny Cash covering Nine Inch Nails:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go


From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 02:28:08 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:28:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 94MPH Lap at Isle of Man, electricly
Message-ID: <AANLkTikOhJdI7c2XDJMj1dI4If-CxY89JknminQu9V6U@mail.gmail.com>

> Moto Czysz confirm position as favourites for Isle of Man TT Zero
> Race with unofficial lap record for electric bikes
> Portland based team Moto Czysz and their rider Mark Miller
> confirmed their position as race favourites for the 2010 TT Zero
> Electric bike race at the Isle of Man TT races with a lap of
> 94.664mph.
>
> The team recorded the fastest ever lap ? albeit an unofficial lap
> record as it is not recorded during a race - for an electric bike
> around the famous mountain course, beating the 2009 race record of
> their closest challengers Team Agni who recorded 87.434mph average
> lap speed in winning the 2009 race.
>
> Moto Czysz lead from the start of the practice and were already
> over 17 seconds ahead of their nearest challengers ManTTx (James
> McBridge) at Glen Helen with defending champion Rob Barber and Team
> Agni third fastest. Martin Loicht?s HTBLAUVA - XX Project, Kingston
> University (George Spence) and Mark Buckley and Team Ecolve were
> also timed at over 60mph
>
> Team Agni passed the Manx team before Ballaugh but were unable to
> match the speeds of the MotoCzysz team who were clocked at
> 102.566mph to Ramsey, having been recorded at a speed of 131.1
> through the Sulby Speed Trap. Barber?s Team Agni also clocked over
> 100mph at Sulby.
>
> The Americans continued their impressive charge and were still just
> below the 100mph (99.974mph) at the Bungalow and eventually
> finished over 3 minutes ahead of their nearest challengers.
>
> Team boss Michael Czysz believes that the team could still claim
> the ?10,000 prize that the Isle of Man Government will award if a
> team can break the prestigious 100mph average lap speed around the
> course but acknowledges that it is an uphill task.

>From Paul Blezard UK

ECO Dano

Greensboro NC

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 02:46:43 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:46:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moto Cyzcz pics electric race bike
Message-ID: <AANLkTikYxKcq6j_fHAB0FrSPTrmfIcPiFFS95efgxTNi@mail.gmail.com>

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/06/2010-motoczysz-e1pc-spied-at-t.html

Check out the size of the battery and swing arm.

ECO Dano

Greensboro NC

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Wed Jun  9 03:34:39 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:34:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Crossing Musical Boundaries
In-Reply-To: <4C0EE2AD.9080602@argolis.org>
References: <AANLkTil7O56FMEJNmQcUFw4m7FVO26xR2W0CbJlJ0BPk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C0ED38F.24066.3D32F80@localhost>



> Michael Evans wrote:
> > Nice to see some folks not afraid to cross musical boundaries...
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1kjkUAA9VM&feature=related
> > SFW
> 
> This probably isn't new for some, but Johnny Cash covering Nine Inch
> Nails: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go
> 
>
That is one of my favorite music videos.  Thanks for reminding me.

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 04:27:01 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:27:01 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now THIS explains what is going on with the Gulf Oil
	Spill
Message-ID: <AANLkTind1Cf08i5ENAK63zY4q1qQgf40n7rFITDV5RiM@mail.gmail.com>

These go in sequence from the top level drilling down to the video.  All WS.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/clarkedawe.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2010/s2917782.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201006/r578178_3617033.asx

The last is about a two minute video.

Also Wayne Woodruff is to be addressed as: "Oh great master of Google"
  He found it.  Blew what I had up, and then searched on the logo in
the blue background to find it.

If you have seen the video about the problem with the ship breaking up
off Australia I think this is the same dynamic duo.

And I got the orginal WMV from a friend who works at a Nuke Power Plant.

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From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun  9 12:08:29 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:08:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rider stuck in Johnstown, PA Wednesday AM,
	Anybody can help him?
Message-ID: <8CCD5E39B5A6251-1F44-4B20@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com>

This just came in off the IBMWR list at 7:44 AM today:

FROM: Tim Bryans <antiquarian.horologist at sympatico.ca>

"Wednesday june9 stranded in Johnstownn  Penn  7am in Super 8 parking 
lot..front
tire toast
hit something on freeway..need names on local bike shops for tube and 
tire.
head for NC from Ottawa
Airhead rider"

I have both Conti RB2 and Avon RoadRider AM-26 new 3.25H19 tires and 
matching tubes in stock in Yardley. Cost you about $150 or so for 
either flavor. You're 250 miles (four hours each way) from my shop in 
Southeastern PA, so I am sure some of our Pittsburgh area guys can get 
to you easier.

Guys?


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???

From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun  9 12:18:53 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:18:53 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] [Pennsylvania] Rider stuck in Johnstown,
 PA Wednesday AM, Anybody can help him?
In-Reply-To: <DE6494CF-F082-4840-9298-92D696B01392@gmail.com>
References: <8CCD5E39B5A6251-1F44-4B20@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com>
	<DE6494CF-F082-4840-9298-92D696B01392@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD5E50F9D26D4-1F44-4D53@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com>


<<on it..
i have a lot of friends just spoke with him
i'll sort him out in J-town>>

That took only ten minutes. We're getting better at this...



--?
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Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???

From gary5410 at aol.com  Wed Jun  9 12:48:34 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:48:34 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
Message-ID: <8CCD5E934F8EA6A-172C-15085@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>

Craig got his Guzzi back and was finally riding yesterday. He stopped 
at a friend's house and when he started it up to leave..........he had 
no dash....just blank like it wasn't running! He rode home like that 
and restarted at home and the dash was back. I think I would have to 
give that Guzzi up!!!! Enough is enough!

......the never ending story!
And he traded a perfectly good trouble free BMW for it!

Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure


From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun  9 13:04:23 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 09:04:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <8CCD5E934F8EA6A-172C-15085@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCD5E934F8EA6A-172C-15085@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C0F9157.9040202@ptd.net>

Gary Christman wrote:
> Craig got his Guzzi back and was finally riding yesterday. He stopped 
> at a friend's house and when he started it up to leave..........he had 
> no dash....just blank like it wasn't running! He rode home like that 
> and restarted at home and the dash was back. I think I would have to 
> give that Guzzi up!!!! Enough is enough!
>
> ......the never ending story!
> And he traded a perfectly good trouble free BMW for it!
>
>   

Craig:   "The dash just went out, I rode it home.  Parked it, restarted 
it, the dash came back.  This bike is nothing but problems. I want a new 
bike."

Dealer:  "Sorry, we are unable to duplicate the supposed problem.  Bike 
is fine.  No new bike."

Moral of incident:  Craig will have to wait another day.  Sad part is, 
if he wants to sell it, nobody who is aware of his bike will buy it.  He 
is stuck with some sort of dealer transaction.  I feel sorry for Craig.  
I know exactly how he feels...except I had a Chevy 4x4 truck with the 
same "soul from hell".  I finally traded that vehicle in and accepted 
whatever I was offerred without question....never before and never since 
have I ever traded a vehicle...always sold 'em private party. 


Chris Jaccarino



From Doug at pencader.com  Wed Jun  9 13:48:44 2010
From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 09:48:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <4C0F9157.9040202@ptd.net>
References: <8CCD5E934F8EA6A-172C-15085@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>
	<4C0F9157.9040202@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <01ca01cb07da$7c68f7b0$753ae710$@com>

Chris wrote, in response to Gary;

>>> Gary Christman wrote:
>>>> Craig got his Guzzi back and was finally riding yesterday. He stopped 
>>>> at a friend's house and when he started it up to leave..........he had 
>>>> no dash....just blank like it wasn't running! He rode home like that 
>>>> and restarted at home and the dash was back. I think I would have to 
>>>> give that Guzzi up!!!! Enough is enough!
>
>>>> ......the never ending story!
>>>> And he traded a perfectly good trouble free BMW for it!

>> Craig:   "The dash just went out, I rode it home.  Parked it, restarted 
>> it, the dash came back.  This bike is nothing but problems. I want a new 
>> bike."

>> Dealer:  "Sorry, we are unable to duplicate the supposed problem.  Bike 
>> is fine.  No new bike."

>>> snips

> Moral of incident:  Craig will have to wait another day.  

Chris, Gary, & (perhaps most of all!) Craig,

As much as I am NOT a fan of the bloated, lethargic legal system that
pervades most of our country, this is a clear example of an appropriate
application of the Lemon Laws. I would recommend that Craig contact a
(known-to-be-effective) Lemon Law Lawyer, relate his case to them, and then
immediately call the dealership and notify them of their TWO choices - a NEW
bike, or "my lawyers will be in touch with you".

Make the dealership do the right thing and actually treat the customer like
he's important!

Better luck,

Doug
'01 1150 GSP
Bear, DE


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 14:07:24 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:07:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <01ca01cb07da$7c68f7b0$753ae710$@com>
References: <8CCD5E934F8EA6A-172C-15085@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>
	<4C0F9157.9040202@ptd.net> <01ca01cb07da$7c68f7b0$753ae710$@com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikueKV3yjeaqaND5e_bJglZZRrSZRjunSh6XQud@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/9/10, Doug <Doug at pencader.com> wrote:
>  As much as I am NOT a fan of the bloated, lethargic legal system that
>  pervades most of our country, this is a clear example of an appropriate
>  application of the Lemon Laws. I would recommend that Craig contact a
>  (known-to-be-effective) Lemon Law Lawyer, relate his case to them, and then
>  immediately call the dealership and notify them of their TWO choices - a NEW
>  bike, or "my lawyers will be in touch with you".

If it applies to "recreational vehicles".  There are gotcha's there.

>  Make the dealership do the right thing and actually treat the customer like
>  he's important!

Everyone is hollering at the dealer.  Remember the dealer is paying
his mechanics the normal rate.  The Dealer is being paid the warrantee
rate.  The mechanics while trained likely have not had to do all the
stuff they are doing and so might be taking a bit longer than normal
on this job.

The dealer is working on a warrantee job when they could/should be
working on real paying customers jobs.

If the wiring harness colors are not what the diagram have been
showing, there have been a lot of time consuming phone calls for good
measure.

This is a sucky deal for the dealer.  Moto Guzzi might not be on their
good guys list after this summer.

Plus as usual "bad news travels far" and it is in this case.

If nothing else there are a lot of people reading this list that will
think about 14 times before purchasing a MG.  And if they know someone
thinking of one, will repeat what they remember about this tale, and
that memory will not be good.

NOT good for the _dealer_.


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From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Wed Jun  9 14:29:11 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:29:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <01ca01cb07da$7c68f7b0$753ae710$@com>
Message-ID: <1509474026.3512341276093751271.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>


>>>> Craig got his Guzzi back and was finally riding yesterday. He stopped 
>>>> at a friend's house and when he started it up to leave..........he had 
>>>> no dash....just blank like it wasn't running! He rode home like that 
>>>> and restarted at home and the dash was back. I think I would have to 
>>>> give that Guzzi up!!!! Enough is enough! 


Way back when I owned a Mercury Cougar my dash went blank. It turned out that it was a precursor to the ignition switch fire issues which Ford had to issue a huge recall for. So maybe if this bike burns up it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. 

John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From mmehalik at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 14:31:42 2010
From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:31:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <1509474026.3512341276093751271.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <01ca01cb07da$7c68f7b0$753ae710$@com>
	<1509474026.3512341276093751271.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinoMc3diOyQxwtLciWmFG-9_hJgb7PM5XgoVQNT@mail.gmail.com>

I was thinking some fire might fix the troubles as well. Funny that
fire might be an acceptable fix for a bike with what? 6, 10? miles on
it?

-mark

>On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:29 AM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) <JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> So maybe if this bike burns up it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 14:33:11 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:33:11 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: What happens if your suit springs a leak in the high
	vacuum of space.
Message-ID: <AANLkTinjz3wXJEGVzZqk3CVNV6zZWsaWMyt6Byk4Me0G@mail.gmail.com>

You also hope to not have it happen in the vacuum of space but in the
test chamber where they can bring the pressure backup NOW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI46U61bALE

Lost pressure at the equivalent of 150000 ft.
Quote: Last thing I remember before passing out was the salvia on my
tongue start to bubble...

Interesting too that the normal re-press time was 30 minutes.  They
pressed it back up in 3 minutes.  I am SURE that the "procedure" for
that was developed "on the fly" by the young guy running the test.  No
time to ask "what do I do"

I suspect this will be a "test" that will never be repeated.

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From gary5410 at aol.com  Wed Jun  9 14:48:30 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:48:30 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <01ca01cb07da$7c68f7b0$753ae710$@com>
References: <8CCD5E934F8EA6A-172C-15085@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>
	<4C0F9157.9040202@ptd.net> <01ca01cb07da$7c68f7b0$753ae710$@com>
Message-ID: <8CCD5F9F62C1FC0-172C-16938@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>


Craig's Guzzi dealer is in Lebanon, I think, and he says he's been 
great......he has no problem with the dealer!
.....and so far.... seems to want to work with them to get it right.  
???

Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure

<<Make the dealership do the right thing and actually treat the 
customer like
he's important>>!



  

From gary5410 at aol.com  Wed Jun  9 14:53:58 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:53:58 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinoMc3diOyQxwtLciWmFG-9_hJgb7PM5XgoVQNT@mail.gmail.com>
References: <01ca01cb07da$7c68f7b0$753ae710$@com><1509474026.3512341276093751271.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<AANLkTinoMc3diOyQxwtLciWmFG-9_hJgb7PM5XgoVQNT@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD5FAB9D86FD0-172C-16A5B@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>

If the Guzzi is home and running ???? I will try to get him to the next 
MAC PAC breakfast. That way you can all abuse him!
He knows I have been posting the Guzzi saga here....but I have not been 
copying him.....and says "gee, thanks for that!"

Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 14:54:39 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:54:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <8CCD5F9F62C1FC0-172C-16938@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCD5E934F8EA6A-172C-15085@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>
	<4C0F9157.9040202@ptd.net> <01ca01cb07da$7c68f7b0$753ae710$@com>
	<8CCD5F9F62C1FC0-172C-16938@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin2wsli97BtyKWZ3dzjun04lI8jG2aQaEktkMfE@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/9/10, Gary Christman <gary5410 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>  Craig's Guzzi dealer is in Lebanon, I think, and he says he's been
>  great......he has no problem with the dealer!

The dealer is NOT in a good spot at all. :(

>  .....and so far.... seems to want to work with them to get it right.
>  ???

He has a vision for what the bike will be.  Maybe the same as MG in
Italy.  Now the implementation...

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From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun  9 15:14:05 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:14:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <8CCD5F9F62C1FC0-172C-16938@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCD5E934F8EA6A-172C-15085@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>	<4C0F9157.9040202@ptd.net>
	<01ca01cb07da$7c68f7b0$753ae710$@com>
	<8CCD5F9F62C1FC0-172C-16938@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C0FAFBD.9070204@ptd.net>

Gary Christman wrote:
> Craig's Guzzi dealer is in Lebanon, I think, and he says he's been 
> great......he has no problem with the dealer!
> .....and so far.... seems to want to work with them to get it right.  
> ???
>
> Gary Christman
> '07 R 1200 GS Adventure

Great, let the dealer give him a new bike.  That's what Craig wants so 
lets see them get it right.  Or, let the dealer talk Guzzi into getting 
him a new bike.  It wont happen!  Craig, unfortunately, is stuck with 
his POS, problematic Guzzi until he sells or trades it.  Dealers only do 
what makes them money. 


*Pennsylvania Lemon Law 1956 Presumption of a reasonable number of 
attempts.*

It shall be presumed that a reasonable number of attempts have been 
undertaken to repair or correct a nonconformity if:

    *1.* the same nonconformity has been subject to repair three times
    by the manufacturer, its agents or authorized dealers and the
    nonconformity still exists; or

    *2.* the vehicle is out-of-service by reason of any nonconformity
    for a cumulative total of 30 or more calendar days.



Chris Jaccarino

From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 15:22:29 2010
From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (hugh mccann)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:22:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <4C0FAFBD.9070204@ptd.net>
References: <8CCD5E934F8EA6A-172C-15085@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>
	<4C0F9157.9040202@ptd.net> <01ca01cb07da$7c68f7b0$753ae710$@com>
	<8CCD5F9F62C1FC0-172C-16938@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>
	<4C0FAFBD.9070204@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinHNwAiYnNtRU1qnTbh1W9MFG4ztMHSyUmXVg89@mail.gmail.com>

<snip>

That would make it a "Limone".


Hugh McCann
2007 f650GS "Thumper"
Collegeville, PA

From saylorspond at comcast.net  Wed Jun  9 15:51:15 2010
From: saylorspond at comcast.net (saylorspond at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:51:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinHNwAiYnNtRU1qnTbh1W9MFG4ztMHSyUmXVg89@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <298529911.3667671276098675418.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Or would that be "Limoncello"? 

Scott Miller 
Drexel Hill, PA 
1999 R1100RT-P 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "hugh mccann" <hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com> 
To: "Chris" <chrisjac at ptd.net> 
Cc: mac-pac-l at jtan.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2010 11:22:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF 

<snip> 

That would make it a "Limone". 


Hugh McCann 
2007 f650GS "Thumper" 
Collegeville, PA 
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From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 17:18:26 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:18:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <4C0FAFBD.9070204@ptd.net>
References: <8CCD5E934F8EA6A-172C-15085@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>
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On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Chris <chrisjac at ptd.net> wrote:
> Gary Christman wrote:
>> Craig's Guzzi dealer is in Lebanon, I think, and he says he's been
>> great......he has no problem with the dealer!
>> .....and so far.... seems to want to work with them to get it right.
>> ???
>>
>> Gary Christman
>> '07 R 1200 GS Adventure
>
> Great, let the dealer give him a new bike. ?That's what Craig wants so
> lets see them get it right. ?Or, let the dealer talk Guzzi into getting
> him a new bike. ?It wont happen! ?Craig, unfortunately, is stuck with
> his POS, problematic Guzzi until he sells or trades it. ?Dealers only do
> what makes them money.


The manufacturer is responsible for replacing the vehicle, not the
dealer (and it must have identical VINs to the original).

I bought Lemon Law returned to Harley bikes from the factory for YTI
when I worked there.

It actually improves the breed once the manufacturer learns what must
be done to avoid this fiasco.

The poor quality that manufacturers are able to get away with in
Europe is absolutely unacceptable here.

Dano

From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun  9 17:49:27 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:49:27 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikueKV3yjeaqaND5e_bJglZZRrSZRjunSh6XQud@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CCD5E934F8EA6A-172C-15085@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com><4C0F9157.9040202@ptd.net>
	<01ca01cb07da$7c68f7b0$753ae710$@com>
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Message-ID: <8CCD6133D41C485-1638-10A1@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>


<<The dealer is working on a warrantee job when they could/should be
working on real paying customers jobs.>>

Those days are behind us. Dealers get warranty reimbursement that is 
equivalent to shop rate. They are limited to billing flat rate, but any 
service writer worth a paycheck knows how to use the flat rate manual 
to cover their hours on any job.

<<If the wiring harness colors are not what the diagram have been
showing, there have been a lot of time consuming phone calls for good
measure.>>

M-G Parts department screwup. They should not have proceeded with 
installing that harness.

<<This is a sucky deal for the dealer.  Moto Guzzi might not be on their
good guys list after this summer.

Plus as usual "bad news travels far" and it is in this case.

If nothing else there are a lot of people reading this list that will
think about 14 times before purchasing a MG.  And if they know someone
thinking of one, will repeat what they remember about this tale, and
that memory will not be good.

NOT good for the _dealer_.>>

If there is a Lemon Law claim, and if it applies to motorcycles (I 
don't know PA law on the subject and do not trust Google answers on 
legal issues) then Moto Guzzi will be supplying the new bike, not the 
dealership. It will be in the dealer's franchise contract agreement.

No matter how you look at it, the internet has made this kind of thing 
a real disaster for the brand and the dealer. It happened to one guy, 
and we only know one side of the story, but the skewed story will get 
repeated over campfires all across the country all summer and M-G will 
lose a bunch of potential buyers. I'd like to hear the dealer's side of 
the story.

--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???

From 321design at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 19:09:59 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:09:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bill / Bus Mauser or anyone who knows him
Message-ID: <AANLkTimiNVay-xAY0QNrixXoIEAQgI7Vmb64HrNWdTCZ@mail.gmail.com>

Bus, or anyone who knows him, send me your / his email.

Thanks

-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 20:52:31 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:52:31 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] K75 Rear Master Cylinder Leaking
Message-ID: <AANLkTik9RzBGKD9-KEdGCWbI49jAbj_lRI0c7dnIyqjn@mail.gmail.com>

Quick question...BB lists two that would fit my bike...how do I know
which one I should use?
Instead of replacing the entire unit...is there a rebuild kit available?

Rebuild kit...
http://www.beemerboneyard.com/34312311064.html

Which knew one should I go with?
http://www.beemerboneyard.com/comacy.html


-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From rsorens at comcast.net  Wed Jun  9 21:30:56 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 17:30:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikueKV3yjeaqaND5e_bJglZZRrSZRjunSh6XQud@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6F80EC9515DC458C869261A56D2074EA@Tekki>

>...NOT good for the _dealer_.
Brain;

Having been thru  a 'dealer fiasco' myself, this is how you sort out the
good dealers from the bad dealers - They are the face of MotoGuzzi in this
situation; if MG doesn't back them up, they cannot simply throw up their
hands and say, 'sorry'. Not if they want to stay in business.

Yeah, it sux for them, but they are the one's who sold the bike that won't
stay running.


Rick


From rsorens at comcast.net  Wed Jun  9 21:30:56 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 17:30:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <1509474026.3512341276093751271.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C5DB368069AF4025B14B91783814EDDE@Tekki>

>...So maybe if this bike burns up it wouldn't be the worst thing in the
world. 

Heh, insure it heavily, huh?


From Braveirwin at aol.com  Wed Jun  9 22:10:16 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:10:16 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bar backs for '88 K 100 RS?
Message-ID: <69527.351cac22.39416b48@aol.com>

Anyone have any? Or know the best ones to buy and where?   

Roddy Irwin,  Arborist of Berks County
'92 K 75 RT,
'89 K 100 RS with trailer,
'85 R  80 RT,
'73 R60/5,
'74 CB 200 T,
and assorted dirt  bikes.
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From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Wed Jun  9 22:10:55 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:10:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: What happens if your suit springs a leak in the
	high	vacuum of space.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinjz3wXJEGVzZqk3CVNV6zZWsaWMyt6Byk4Me0G@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C0FD92F.21312.292E54F@localhost>



> You also hope to not have it happen in the vacuum of space but in the
> test chamber where they can bring the pressure backup NOW.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI46U61bALE
> 
> Lost pressure at the equivalent of 150000 ft.
> Quote: Last thing I remember before passing out was the salvia on my
> tongue start to bubble...
> 

Probably not boiling, but degassing the dissolved air.  Still a bad 
sign.  

I guess NASA stopped using those plastic disconnects after this.

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From Buzbiker1 at aol.com  Wed Jun  9 23:20:12 2010
From: Buzbiker1 at aol.com (Buzbiker1 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 19:20:12 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 8 Yr. Batt. life (no tender)
Message-ID: <62244.61092d6d.39417bac@aol.com>

I would say you are really lucky.   Batteries are a rental item.  Get one 
every four years whether you need it  or not.  The worst case scenario is 
being on a trip with some jackass who  thinks his 6 year old battery is in 
great shape.  When it fails you are the  one who has to get out your jumper 
cables, take off your Aerostitch as its 90  degrees outside and help the guy get 
his bike started while telling him, "For  God's sake don't stall that 
goddam thing."  Meanwhile, there is no battery  within 200 miles that will fit 
his BMW.

I have experience with this chain  of events.

Buzz

Buzz Davis
337 Beaumont Road
Devon, PA.  19333
610-574-0927
buzbiker1 at aol.com

In a message dated 6/7/2010  10:46:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
whitfield.dan at gmail.com writes:
I had to  replace my battery today (on the FXRS).  Checked the
installation date.  It was April 2002.

It's never had a battery tender, just a bimonthly  overnight boost
charge with a 4 amp tapering charger. Regulator charges at  14.5 volts
or a little more (it is 15 yrs old).

Would you call that  good batt. life??  Anybody seen better??

ECO Dano

Greensboro  NC
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From gary5410 at aol.com  Wed Jun  9 23:58:32 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:58:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi dealer and Craig
Message-ID: <8CCD646CD179E25-B40-18A5F@webmail-d073.sysops.aol.com>

I want to repeat that the Guzzi dealer has been great as far as Craig 
is concerned. He has no problem with them at all! ...and I don't think 
this is typical of Guzzi motos. This bike was probably made the day 
after the Italians lost an important soccer match or something like 
that.....a simple explaination.....they just f**ked this one up and 
Craig and the dealer are working through it.
Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure

From agattuso at carpeluxe.com  Tue Jun  1 17:55:55 2010
From: agattuso at carpeluxe.com (Anthony Gattuso, Jr.)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:55:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Centramatic Balancer
Message-ID: <4C0549AB.4080803@carpeluxe.com>

Greeting's All...

Not being but a seat of the pants engineer..... I'm wondering about the 
RPM of that test rig.  Granted it's a small tire but I'm curious if this 
effect will only work with very high Revs, making for a great demo but 
less than stellar performance in the real world.

I wonder how fast a vehicle would be going with the speed he was using 
for his demo.  It's clearly controlled as the strobe was spot on as soon 
as he turned it on.

Or am I all wet?



-- 
Tony Gattuso
Petersburg, Va

'87 K100LT "Her Teutonic Majesty"
'79 XS750 "The Triple"
'72 A65T "The T-Bolt"
'68 B25 "The Blue Bike"
'78 SR500 "The Banana Bike"


From bmwdick at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 17:51:43 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 13:51:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Was that Corey and Kimi in Chalfont?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil4Jve0asA9tDpz016JFSSTX14bun091Sq4KeP2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <aj5806pksp0djl0ub4au9286ovr878p962@4ax.com>
	<AANLkTik78ha0uQEDVychtei8luDS2jdXSTAaROfwU3RZ@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTil4Jve0asA9tDpz016JFSSTX14bun091Sq4KeP2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimE2mKn7rJe0cQE08GGLJqfC3EgQ6fQnaNTAT4v@mail.gmail.com>

Those were some nice roads, Will.
I clearly recall one near the reservoir that was pretty much washed away.
But it was pretty country, and as I recall,a very pleasant ride. We
even got to visit a goat on that trip.
Dick

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Will Weir <willweir at gmail.com> wrote:
> Kimi,
>
> I grew up right near route 10. ?In fact, my high school (South
> Kortright Central) is right on route 10. We lived in Hobart, which is
> a tiny little place located between Delhi and Stamford.
>
> Lots of good riding roads over that way. ?I took Dicky B. on some of
> them when we did our tour to Vermont and back.
>
> Will
>
> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Kimi Bush <kimi.bush at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We decided to re-trace a northbound route that we attempted 4 years
>> ago. ?During the first go-around there was extensive flood damage in
>> NY, which caused considerable problems for finding accommodations and
>> enjoying the scenery. ?This time it was smoothing-sailing up beautiful
>> Rt. 10 through the Catskills and into the lowest portion of Adirondak
>> park, where we called it a night around 6pm on Sunday with 300 miles
>> on the trip. ?We liked the ride so much, that we turned around and did
>> the exact reverse route home today.
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-- 
BMW-Dick
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I?m
not sure about the universe.?    Albert Einstein.

From bmwdick at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 00:54:09 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 20:54:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: External Hard Drives
In-Reply-To: <4C05AA2D.6070601@ptd.net>
References: <4C05AA2D.6070601@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikGhpp_643SR5BCIKL1rJS-z7JpZHuNbIM6xtsL@mail.gmail.com>

Yes.
BMWDick
Senior IT
(That's IT as in incompetent technologist)


On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Chris <chrisjac at ptd.net> wrote:
> Am almost afraid to ask, ?but any opinions on what brands to buy and
> what brands to stay away from? ? I probably need about 500 GB storage.
> Also, does it do me any good to get a "network drive" unit (to plug into
> router) even though my router is used simply as a physical firewall for
> my cable modem and not really for a network?
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris Jaccarino
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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I?m
not sure about the universe.?    Albert Einstein.

From bmwdick at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 10:40:42 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 06:40:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] matching license plates
In-Reply-To: <8CCD017CC3DDC08-3B18-4ABF@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCD017CC3DDC08-3B18-4ABF@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinI-Tuw05Es2UfWcO99THcFPvCW0kO5Ewa9TmA3@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Gary Christman <gary5410 at aol.com> wrote:
> Ken and I now have matching license plates!
>
> http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Other-moto-stuff/XPLORgaryNken/886918984_X3kyf-L.jpg
>
> Gary Christman
> '07 R 1200 GS Adventure
> _______________________________________________

Good defense in court.
"Not guilty, your honor. It wasn't me. Musta been The Haggis Meister."
-- 
BMW-Dick
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I?m
not sure about the universe.?    Albert Einstein.

From bmwdick at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 14:05:20 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:05:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen...I need to start wearing my helmet!
In-Reply-To: <8CCD200BA46C681-3AEC-13BB@Webmail-m105.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCD200BA46C681-3AEC-13BB@Webmail-m105.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimF3clPPD-s54cAezHmwDXlpKZN2a-l0Y1pOobI@mail.gmail.com>

Ouch.
Helmets work.
Ask the house I hit ;)
Dick

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Gary Christman <gary5410 at aol.com> wrote:
> I was drilling through the bottom of the cabinet, through the floor for
> the gas line with a 1" hole saw. The saw was dull and I added my weight
> to help it through.............when it went through the floor I had no
> support.....caught myself with my head on the cabinet edge.
>
> .....a little dizzy............lesson learned!
> Would have made a great You Tube FAIL video!
>
> http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/IMG2189/889202192_9vyZC-L.jpg
>
> Gary Christman
> '07 R 1200 GS Adventure

From bmwdick at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 01:42:14 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:42:14 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - interesting products to make life a little easier
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikHyJBW8Tdbcw21DnMP00ApHUYOfcv4FYePtwRY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <19846.456b24cd.393d8db7@aol.com>
	<-9166103735235457909@unknownmsgid> 
	<AANLkTikHyJBW8Tdbcw21DnMP00ApHUYOfcv4FYePtwRY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikv4WlCfaoZTvk2h_W1x9yhuFUgH1KBI5SZk_Ms@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
(SNIP)

> Even "just paper" still beats chugi
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nara_period_toilet_paper.jpg
The origin of the expression, Shit on a shingle.
Enough of this crappy thread. . .

-- 
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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I?m
not sure about the universe.?    Albert Einstein.

From dave.mccoy at alcatel-lucent.com  Mon Jun  7 13:02:50 2010
From: dave.mccoy at alcatel-lucent.com (McCoy, David (Dave))
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 08:02:50 -0500
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dutch MS150 - info requested
In-Reply-To: <D1EDA776A2CE4E749D177F6B1541C673@home.robinson.org>
References: <D1EDA776A2CE4E749D177F6B1541C673@home.robinson.org>
Message-ID: <5A5A9E3EF78BE648B7C58C48429915BE43A7301F@USNAVSXCHMBSA2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com>

I know I saw mail on this event and the PAC's support, must have deleted. Anyone sign up for this? I am thinking of supporting but did not want to send in the registration with improper data. 

Thanks! 


Dave

From dave.mccoy at alcatel-lucent.com  Tue Jun  8 13:04:06 2010
From: dave.mccoy at alcatel-lucent.com (McCoy, David (Dave))
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:04:06 -0500
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MS150 starting in Green Lane Park - anyone supporting
	this event?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiku7NcSF16qNepjFYj6LvnLM5Vb9qU-yzjo2Y0i@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C8332694.238E2%progress49@comcast.net>
	<AANLkTiku7NcSF16qNepjFYj6LvnLM5Vb9qU-yzjo2Y0i@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5A5A9E3EF78BE648B7C58C48429915BE43A737E0@USNAVSXCHMBSA2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com>

 
Anyone supporting this bicycle event for MS? I have supported dozens but never on the bike, always as personal sag support. Interested in seeing who is going? 

Dave


From mrmevans at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 02:20:56 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 22:20:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MS150 starting in Green Lane Park - anyone supporting
	this event?
In-Reply-To: <5A5A9E3EF78BE648B7C58C48429915BE43A737E0@USNAVSXCHMBSA2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com>
References: <C8332694.238E2%progress49@comcast.net>
	<AANLkTiku7NcSF16qNepjFYj6LvnLM5Vb9qU-yzjo2Y0i@mail.gmail.com>
	<5A5A9E3EF78BE648B7C58C48429915BE43A737E0@USNAVSXCHMBSA2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilHEA6dpiuWWZ5EOb3wzlwTx7t18mURJRpUFCJc@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:04 AM, McCoy, David (Dave)
<dave.mccoy at alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone supporting this bicycle event for MS? I have supported dozens but never on the bike, always as personal sag support. Interested in seeing who is going?
>
> Dave
>

Dave,

Kimi Bush is your woman, well, at least for info about this....

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Thu Jun 10 02:43:41 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 22:43:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Centramatic Balancer
In-Reply-To: <4C0549AB.4080803@carpeluxe.com>
References: <4C0549AB.4080803@carpeluxe.com>
Message-ID: <4C10515D.5040604@ptd.net>

Anthony Gattuso, Jr. wrote:
> Greeting's All...
>
> Not being but a seat of the pants engineer..... I'm wondering about the 
> RPM of that test rig.  Granted it's a small tire but I'm curious if this 
> effect will only work with very high Revs, making for a great demo but 
> less than stellar performance in the real world.
>
> I wonder how fast a vehicle would be going with the speed he was using 
> for his demo.  It's clearly controlled as the strobe was spot on as soon 
> as he turned it on.
>
> Or am I all wet?
>
>
>
>   
Centramatic has been using their method of balancing wheel for years on 
over the road tractors.  Large diameter compared to a car or motorcycle 
and it works on trucks, so go figure.

Chris Jaccarino

From corey.lyba at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 02:50:01 2010
From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 22:50:01 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dutch MS150 - info requested
In-Reply-To: <5A5A9E3EF78BE648B7C58C48429915BE43A7301F@USNAVSXCHMBSA2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com>
References: <D1EDA776A2CE4E749D177F6B1541C673@home.robinson.org>
	<5A5A9E3EF78BE648B7C58C48429915BE43A7301F@USNAVSXCHMBSA2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilR19xr8OLRbBqR5p00mNJKjJ50fBHbpscFVDRV@mail.gmail.com>

Kimi is the go to person for the MS150. It is not the same weekend as
the national rally, so just send her a message on here or at
Kimi.Bush at gmail.com.

From corey.lyba at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 02:53:38 2010
From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 22:53:38 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MS150 starting in Green Lane Park - anyone supporting
	this event?
In-Reply-To: <5A5A9E3EF78BE648B7C58C48429915BE43A737E0@USNAVSXCHMBSA2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com>
References: <C8332694.238E2%progress49@comcast.net>
	<AANLkTiku7NcSF16qNepjFYj6LvnLM5Vb9qU-yzjo2Y0i@mail.gmail.com>
	<5A5A9E3EF78BE648B7C58C48429915BE43A737E0@USNAVSXCHMBSA2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil_k4h-10GSKHZE_PYwLBEfvIxMa8NVxMt7Uman@mail.gmail.com>

I am the lead Moto Marshal while on road and Kimi is now in the main
person at HQ at Millersville. I'll pass it a long to her that you need
info on it. The event is very worth while.

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 03:39:17 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 23:39:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] The downside of showing off
Message-ID: <AANLkTim8w-zlhaDD9xQpNxJYORysPobG9oNt8Ynb_kBJ@mail.gmail.com>

Likely a cell phone vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDHP4h4QVpM&feature=related
(WS)

The job is not done till you ride off successfully.  This guy forgot that.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 03:41:39 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 23:41:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Think it will buff out?
Message-ID: <AANLkTimW-hAzoLTGeusNi-L45_qfc7EazbHqc5Syef1m@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gaQqcmPKrE
(WS)

It was really looking good until it went past 90 degrees.

I wonder if he will try to claim it under insurance...

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 03:45:36 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 23:45:36 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Time of the year for a Hand Signal review
Message-ID: <AANLkTimYRM3-xrMjkKvAYG46y8haMwGxIKMQ23bVTiOA@mail.gmail.com>

We all need a refresher course on occasion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zKQv2dc-cM
(WS)

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 04:10:54 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 00:10:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Top to bottom on earth
Message-ID: <AANLkTimBnCdS9fJQqDQ4SOZwKMPUbWYxzF7cHXqIgJfT@mail.gmail.com>

Very cool graphic of where we have been w/o being out in space

http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/infographic-tallest-mountain-to-deepest-ocean-trench-0249/
(WS)

Very cool graphic just keep going "down" from "up there".

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From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 04:32:39 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 00:32:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <C5DB368069AF4025B14B91783814EDDE@Tekki>
References: <1509474026.3512341276093751271.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<C5DB368069AF4025B14B91783814EDDE@Tekki>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimLmCPeHqvOOuKhjGb-TjQwUeP6tKcvCeSQImNB@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Rick Sorensen <rsorens at comcast.net> wrote:
>>...So maybe if this bike burns up it wouldn't be the worst thing in the
> world.
>
> Heh, insure it heavily, huh?


If you don't mind being big bubba's ho in the Greybar Hotel.

Dano

From wayne at 2zars.com  Thu Jun 10 10:04:54 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:04:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: So how big is that oil slick?
Message-ID: <42e1161ri5ij187j85lv7m4negkfqd0a9g@4ax.com>

It appears you can see past the surface.  Ugly.

This image changes daily, so you will need to look back if you don't
get there today.  

http://www.osei.noaa.gov/iod.html
(WS)

Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From Doug at pencader.com  Thu Jun 10 12:32:27 2010
From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 08:32:27 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MS150 starting in Green Lane Park - anyone
	supporting	this event?
In-Reply-To: <5A5A9E3EF78BE648B7C58C48429915BE43A737E0@USNAVSXCHMBSA2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com>
References: <C8332694.238E2%progress49@comcast.net>	<AANLkTiku7NcSF16qNepjFYj6LvnLM5Vb9qU-yzjo2Y0i@mail.gmail.com>
	<5A5A9E3EF78BE648B7C58C48429915BE43A737E0@USNAVSXCHMBSA2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com>
Message-ID: <029e01cb0898$fef39aa0$fcdacfe0$@com>

Dave wrote;

>>> snippage

 
> Anyone supporting this bicycle event for MS? I have supported dozens but
never on the bike, always as personal sag support. Interested in seeing who
is going? 

>>> end

Ms. "Pinkie" Bush is the one you need to speak at . . . she's organizing the
moto-marshalls for the event . . . and a mighty fine job she does!

Doug
'01 1150 GSP
Bear, DE


From jweiss11 at comcast.net  Thu Jun 10 12:43:01 2010
From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 08:43:01 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dutch MS150 - info requested
In-Reply-To: <5A5A9E3EF78BE648B7C58C48429915BE43A7301F@USNAVSXCHMBSA2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com>
References: <D1EDA776A2CE4E749D177F6B1541C673@home.robinson.org>
	<5A5A9E3EF78BE648B7C58C48429915BE43A7301F@USNAVSXCHMBSA2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com>
Message-ID: <EA7DBA4678E64B919586AA60D2C2F873@jackde48df08c6>

Hi Dave, 

I am going to be a Moto Marshall for this event. 

Jack Weiss
R1200GSA

-----Original Message-----
From: mac-pac-l-bounces+jweiss11=comcast.net at jtan.com
[mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+jweiss11=comcast.net at jtan.com] On Behalf Of McCoy,
David (Dave)
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:03 AM
To: MAC-PAC
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dutch MS150 - info requested

I know I saw mail on this event and the PAC's support, must have deleted.
Anyone sign up for this? I am thinking of supporting but did not want to
send in the registration with improper data. 

Thanks! 


Dave
_______________________________________________
Mac-pac-l mailing list
Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l


From ephoet at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 12:59:10 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 08:59:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] K75 Rear Master Cylinder Leaking
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik9RzBGKD9-KEdGCWbI49jAbj_lRI0c7dnIyqjn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik9RzBGKD9-KEdGCWbI49jAbj_lRI0c7dnIyqjn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimY2fpzFu4z5RtRGdmwniIocUcA3d4eAHwJd7r1@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:52 PM, edde m <motoedde2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Quick question...BB lists two that would fit my bike...how do I know
> which one I should use?
> Instead of replacing the entire unit...is there a rebuild kit available?
>
> Rebuild kit...
> http://www.beemerboneyard.com/34312311064.html
>
> Which knew one should I go with?
> http://www.beemerboneyard.com/comacy.html
>
>
> --
> edde m


I vote for the new cylinder.
"Rebuildability" depends on how bad a shape your current brake
cylinder is in.  If badly corroded internally, you can hone all day
and not get into good shape.

The $60 difference in price is well worth your labor that will be
spent re-habbing the old cylinder, IMO

And there is always the possibility of doing the re-build, and having
it fail on you if seals won't hold.

But, yes it can be done, if you really want to.

Erik Hoet

From kimi.bush at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 13:12:03 2010
From: kimi.bush at gmail.com (Kimi Bush)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:12:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dutch MS150 - info requested
In-Reply-To: <5A5A9E3EF78BE648B7C58C48429915BE43A7301F@USNAVSXCHMBSA2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com>
References: <D1EDA776A2CE4E749D177F6B1541C673@home.robinson.org>
	<5A5A9E3EF78BE648B7C58C48429915BE43A7301F@USNAVSXCHMBSA2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinqpQ5OPcUTeTc5CfWGEeDeloMNj3EUMB5HacZ9@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Everyone!
Here is the information again about the PA Dutch Ride!!  I've spoken
with a few of you recently who indicated that you may be available to
marshal this year.  Please see the information below.  There is a link
where you can go to register online and please DON'T HESITATE TO
CONTACT ME WITH QUESTIONS!!!  I've been mega-busy this year and just
haven't had the time to be constantly recruiting like I have in the
past.  I would really appreciate if all of you could help spread the
word.  More volunteers = more successful marshaling = more fun for
all!

Thanks to Dave McCoy for asking!

Mac-Pac Friends:

Check your calendars!  July 24th and 25th will be the weekend of the
MS150: PA Dutch Ride!
For those of you who don't know, this is a charity bicycle event that
benefits the Delaware Valley
and Central PA chapters of the National Multiple Sclerosis Society.
MOTORCYCLE MARSHALS  are
a big part of the safety and organization of the ride.  This will be
the third year that Corey and I are
helping to plan the event and we need YOUR help to make sure that
everything goes safely and
smoothly on the weekend of the ride!

--If you already know what I'm talking about and want to register now,
use this link to get to the online registration form:
(You'll need your driver's license and bike insurance info when you register.)
http://main.nationalmssociety.org/padrm

--If anyone participated in the past, but can't be there this year, your
testimonials and help with recruitment would be very much appreciated.

--If you want to help out but won't be around on the weekend of the
event, we could really use your assistance with recruitment!
Here's a link to flier with the information, please consider
distributing and displaying this anywhere you go where
motorcyclists frequent:
http://bikepae.nationalmssociety.org/site/DocServer/Road_Marshal_Flyer_09.pdf?docID=38083

--If you need some more details for yourself:

Saturday and Sunday July 24th and 25th (seeking volunteers
for either or both days)
Saturday morning the event starts at Green Lane park in Perkiomenville
and ends Saturday (before dinner-time) at Millersville University
The duty of a marshal includes helping bicyclists if they run into
trouble (like if they need to call one of the support groups, i.e.
medic, bicycle repair van, sag wagon) and also standing at various
pre-determined road junctions and directing bicycle traffic (letting the
cyclists know if cars are coming, etc)  Instruction is given on Saturday
morning, no experience is necessary, if I can do it anyone can!  You get
to ride a lot too.
There are plenty of free snacks, lunch, and drinks throughout the day,
free dinner is served sat. evening in the Millersville cafeteria.  There
is a nice awards ceremony at MU and there is usually free beer to be
had.  For those who are volunteering on both Saturday and Sunday, very
nice accommodations are provided on the MU campus, also free of charge.

Sunday morning the event resumes, leaving from MU campus and heading
back to Green Lane park.  The schedule and tasks are pretty much the
same.  There's more food and celebration at Green Lane when the event
finishes.

Bicyclists will be riding 50, 75 or 100 mile courses on each day and
trust me, they really need our support and assistance to do so
successfully.

Thanks Everyone!

Kimi Bush
Kimi.bush at gmail.com
610

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 13:56:17 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:56:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: So how big is that oil slick?
In-Reply-To: <42e1161ri5ij187j85lv7m4negkfqd0a9g@4ax.com>
References: <42e1161ri5ij187j85lv7m4negkfqd0a9g@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikJIdo1y6SjGyNtnqW-wAonNTDP64A25gn53w6s@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/10/10, Wayne Woodruff <wayne at 2zars.com> wrote:
> It appears you can see past the surface.  Ugly.
>
>  This image changes daily, so you will need to look back if you don't
>  get there today.
>
>  http://www.osei.noaa.gov/iod.html
>  (WS)

Someone did not do well in History class.  "The nation's largest oil
spill"  Far from it so far.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2663241/americas_greatest_oil_gusher_100_years_pg2.html?cat=37

It ran for 18 months to get there though.

Greg Roberts sent me a graphic that someone did of relative volumes of
various spills.  Saddam Hussein still takes the cake.  I suspect that
since some was in tankers  that it hit marshes too.  Are theirs more
resistant then ours?


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From ephoet at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 19:22:00 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:22:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Motorcycling grandmas live high on their Hogs
Message-ID: <AANLkTinVRkUFpknSxq8hFjHu0X3zU52sZvtm_VBUUZFX@mail.gmail.com>

In Wednesday's Inky  - EPH

Motorcycling grandmas live high on their Hogs
http://www.philly.com/philly/living/20100609_Motorcycling_grandmas_live_high_on_their_Hogs.html

Just after 9/11, Meg Crouse, like millions of other Americans, began
taking stock of her life. She had a new awareness of how fleeting
human existence could be, and she wanted and needed more adventure.
She also was approaching 50, and that, too, meant a reckoning.

So Crouse did something she'd always yearned to do: She learned to
ride a motorcycle. And then she bought one.

"I'd always been enthralled by motorcycles," Crouse said. "Once, my
mother caught me ogling some guys on bikes. I had to explain to her
that it wasn't the guys - it was their bikes I was ogling."

More at http://tinyurl.com/2chwyoc

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 19:42:45 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:42:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: I don't know what the World Cup is
Message-ID: <AANLkTimzXvhpkPkXRtrZzj35Nq7BtiEpxd7ob7cD1UtT@mail.gmail.com>

but I am a fan of the fans.

http://funnycrave.com/sexy-world-cup-fans/14493/
(WS questionable)


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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 19:44:57 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:44:57 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nicely done Goldwing cafe racer
Message-ID: <AANLkTin6IiBzQqfZL6qC7gwqEc_qak_76Svx8y_k5eNT@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.bikeexif.com/honda-gold-wing-cafe-racer
(WS)

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 20:21:28 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:21:28 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] All the Gear, All the Time
Message-ID: <AANLkTikgUlBfxsgNS8FlOZC3iGuUDjVJzlEGGPZ-Dwt2@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZkycB9JDOQ
(WS, kinda)

Done by Triumph


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From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Thu Jun 10 20:30:03 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:30:03 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: I don't know what the World Cup is
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimzXvhpkPkXRtrZzj35Nq7BtiEpxd7ob7cD1UtT@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimzXvhpkPkXRtrZzj35Nq7BtiEpxd7ob7cD1UtT@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48471.12.181.211.35.1276201803.squirrel@12.181.211.35>

> but I am a fan of the fans.
>
> http://funnycrave.com/sexy-world-cup-fans/14493/
> (WS questionable)
>

Nice world cups!

Watch Safe,

Joe


From chrisjac at ptd.net  Thu Jun 10 21:00:41 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:00:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nicely done Goldwing cafe racer
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin6IiBzQqfZL6qC7gwqEc_qak_76Svx8y_k5eNT@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin6IiBzQqfZL6qC7gwqEc_qak_76Svx8y_k5eNT@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C115279.9010107@ptd.net>

Brian Curry wrote:
> http://www.bikeexif.com/honda-gold-wing-cafe-racer
> (WS)
>
>   

I like this one.....

http://www.pipeburn.com/home/2009/7/19/goldwing-cafe-racer.html

From rsorens at comcast.net  Fri Jun 11 00:26:42 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:26:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] anti-motorcycle fascista in Utah
Message-ID: <0E062FE823504B138E9FB678D0C18D0F@Tekki>

Anybody else hear about this?


 http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?lnk=rss&article=40778

"The intent of the checkpoint was to redirect as many motorcycles as there
were officers participating (7-10), to the side and have a brief (a few
minutes) discussion about motorcycle safety issues such as proper
displacement, helmets, equipment, and safety of the motorcycle."


Rick Sorensen

R1150GS - Pseudo Adventure
"TEKKI" - 'iron knight'
R1150GS
"KANKU III" - 'to view the sky'

--------------------------------------------
"Politicians are like diapers.
They both need changing often and for the same reason."
Mark Twain


From rsorens at comcast.net  Fri Jun 11 00:44:46 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:44:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimLmCPeHqvOOuKhjGb-TjQwUeP6tKcvCeSQImNB@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9EE46B102B4E429A83F37D2B343ADED9@Tekki>

>>...So maybe if this bike burns up it wouldn't be the worst thing in 
>>the
> world.
>
> Heh, insure it heavily, huh?

>>>>
If you don't mind being big bubba's ho in the Greybar Hotel.



I wasn't advocating insurance raud, merely saying that if the harness is
bad, it may be likely to cause a fire, therefore: insure it heavily


Rick


From wayne at 2zars.com  Fri Jun 11 00:45:29 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:45:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] The motorcycle of the future has arrived
Message-ID: <fo1316l6b7p6k2objpa9j76cvfvi76em76@4ax.com>


http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/06/motoczysz-e1pc/
(WS)

Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From piechota at argolis.org  Fri Jun 11 01:16:32 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:16:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Tire Plug Party and Changing!
Message-ID: <4C118E70.8080206@argolis.org>

I picked up a nail in my back tire, likely on Saturday.  I'm not too 
hurt about it since That tire wasn't going to pass inspection this month 
anyways. :)  So, I'm probably going to attempt plugging it tomorrow 
evening.  If anyone wants to show up and watch me screw it all up, come 
on by.  I'll provide food (likely hot dogs and hamburgers on the grill 
or pizza).  Please, please let me know if you're coming though.  If I 
don't hear from anyone, I might just say screw it and go out for dinner.

Also, if anyone is looking to be in the tire room early Saturday or any 
time Sunday, I'd be much obliged.  Otherwise, I'll just swing by one day 
during the week.

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 02:35:29 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:35:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rolly's Surgery was successful :):)
Message-ID: <AANLkTiklgeca8JFv0jZq3-aYVL7px8WgRbxwBHy3mZEv@mail.gmail.com>

Surprised?  Yes, I was too.  I just got this note from Janice.

She said that he does have his cell phone 215-262-7233 and it should
be live DURING THE DAY tomorrow.

Apparently he was talking more about it on his FB page than elsewhere.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Janice MacKenzie <acujanny at verizon.net>
Date: Jun 10, 2010 10:17 PM
Subject: Rolly's Surgery


Hi,
  This is just to inform all our friends, especially those not on
Facebook, that Rolly's surgery on Wednesday was very successful, and
he is recovering at Pennsylvania Hospital in Room 443.  He'll probably
be in there until at least Saturday.  He was feeling much better
today, thanks to his little morphine pump!  Still a bit groggy from
the anesthesia, and frustrated that he can't get good wireless service
at the hospital, thus rendering useless the iPod and iPad,
nevertheless he is in good spirits.  We are both grateful for all your
thoughts and prayers.
 - Janice
============

The surgery apparently was related to "men's issues" and that is all I
know.   Apparently drainage has been established and that is good.
Lack of drainage being a BAD thing.  Floating teeth and eyeballs and
all.

Janice said that he was way out of it yesterday but they put him on
the morphine pump and he is much more lucid and aware...  I got a
giggle out of that.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 05:10:24 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 01:10:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The Hydro Slider
Message-ID: <AANLkTil7FhIqHDncDFiGQ1FGE0jLMn3i6PcIEhrpIj5R@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKdZZK2I4Jc
(WS)

Not related to White Castle AT ALL!

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From darkside at ix.netcom.com  Fri Jun 11 11:04:22 2010
From: darkside at ix.netcom.com (Darkside)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:04:22 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] The motorcycle of the future has arrived
Message-ID: <15852193.1276254262598.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net>




>From: Wayne Woodruff <wayne at 2zars.com>
>Subject: [MAC-PAC] The motorcycle of the future has arrived
>
>
>http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/06/motoczysz-e1pc/
>(WS)
>

the more i see of the future.. the more i miss the past.

peace
eric

From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 12:00:36 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:00:36 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] K75 Rear Master Cylinder Leaking
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimY2fpzFu4z5RtRGdmwniIocUcA3d4eAHwJd7r1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik9RzBGKD9-KEdGCWbI49jAbj_lRI0c7dnIyqjn@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimY2fpzFu4z5RtRGdmwniIocUcA3d4eAHwJd7r1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinFfFY7jsVojaC4n1Hpwp0B7RtjwxPdLx-lE836@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Erik Hoet <ephoet at gmail.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
> And there is always the possibility of doing the re-build, and having
> it fail on you if seals won't hold.
>
> But, yes it can be done, if you really want to.


Thanks to all for the heads up.  I think I will opt for the new
one...as the labor savings on not having to do it a second time should
make up for the incremental cost difference between the rebuild and
new kits.



-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From misevich at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 12:24:26 2010
From: misevich at gmail.com (Dave Misevich)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:24:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
Message-ID: <AANLkTikAFb7otBeW7rvrT8vgLI5tT4svncSeqKpogzX8@mail.gmail.com>

My oldest daughter Jamie ( I've posted some videos of her singing )
and I are taking the MSF basic riders course this weekend starting
this evening.

She's 15 and has her learners permit now and I thought even if she
doesn't end up riding the extra safety training would apply to car
driving as well. She was keen on the idea so we signed up. I've never
taken the class before and am looking forward to it, plus I'll get a
groovy discount on my insurance. :)

--
Dave Misevich
Dexter, MI
'85 K100RT
'98 R1100RT

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 12:13:24 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:13:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Electric Isle of Man won by Moto Czysz from USA
Message-ID: <AANLkTik2TY_5GR5swXqN1qczFwO38uFt67m9UByFmvjB@mail.gmail.com>

Well Moto Czysz took the win at 96.8mph average for the 1 lap race.
Top recorded speed was about 135mph on the course.

Too bad they couldn't manage another 3.3 MPH, which would have earned
them an additional $40K prize put up by the govt. of Isle of Man for
doing a 100 MPH lap electrically.

ECO Dano

Greensboro NC

From tpcutter at aol.com  Fri Jun 11 12:34:14 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:34:14 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikAFb7otBeW7rvrT8vgLI5tT4svncSeqKpogzX8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikAFb7otBeW7rvrT8vgLI5tT4svncSeqKpogzX8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD7798930D100-2F98-11124@Webmail-m120.sysops.aol.com>


<<My oldest daughter Jamie ( I've posted some videos of her singing 
)and I are taking the MSF basic riders course this weekend startingthis 
evening.She's 15 and has her learners permit now and I thought even if 
shedoesn't end up riding the extra safety training would apply to 
cardriving as well. She was keen on the idea so we signed up. I've 
nevertaken the class before and am looking forward to it, plus I'll get 
agroovy discount on my insurance. :)  >>

That's great, Dave. You're right, she'll have fun. I don't know about 
theimproved driving, though. My son took the MSF course when he just 
turned 16. He crashed his (my SV650) first and only street bike 5 times 
in 10 weeks. He routinely crashes his cars right into the back of 
stopped vehicles. He's been driving for 6 years and already totaled two 
cars. He's just not a good driver. He has other strengths, so we'll go 
with those.

One suggestion: Let her sit alone and work with the instructors.You're 
going to discover that your riding ideas may differ significantly from 
what they are teaching. I see a lot of people mis-instruct their 
friends and loved ones in the fine art of motorcycle riding.

Have fun. How cool would it be to see Dave and Jamie pull up to a 
Mac-Pac Cheesesteak run? It would only be cooler if Dave bought all the 
cheesesteaks.   nom-nom-nom...


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???

From piechota at argolis.org  Fri Jun 11 13:04:09 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:04:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <8CCD7798930D100-2F98-11124@Webmail-m120.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTikAFb7otBeW7rvrT8vgLI5tT4svncSeqKpogzX8@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCD7798930D100-2F98-11124@Webmail-m120.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C123449.5010805@argolis.org>

Tom Cutter wrote:
> Have fun. How cool would it be to see Dave and Jamie pull up to a 
> Mac-Pac Cheesesteak run? It would only be cooler if Dave bought all the 
> cheesesteaks.   nom-nom-nom...

Thanks, go and bring up cheesesteaks.  I've been trying to resist going 
over to Vito's all week.


From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 13:21:54 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:21:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <4C123449.5010805@argolis.org>
References: <AANLkTikAFb7otBeW7rvrT8vgLI5tT4svncSeqKpogzX8@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCD7798930D100-2F98-11124@Webmail-m120.sysops.aol.com>
	<4C123449.5010805@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimk1GzApB5AbbPul4c_BGMPaxHd66pgQPRXegXe@mail.gmail.com>

Way to go Dave!

You are going to like the course as well. I envy you the conversations
you will have with your kid after each range session.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From Doug at pencader.com  Fri Jun 11 13:34:15 2010
From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:34:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rolly's Surgery was successful :):)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiklgeca8JFv0jZq3-aYVL7px8WgRbxwBHy3mZEv@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiklgeca8JFv0jZq3-aYVL7px8WgRbxwBHy3mZEv@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002301cb096a$cb53ef10$61fbcd30$@com>

Brian wrote in response to Janice;

>>> nips & tucks


> Hi,
  > This is just to inform all our friends, especially those not on
> Facebook, that Rolly's surgery on Wednesday was very successful, and
> he is recovering at Pennsylvania Hospital in Room 443.  

>>> snips

 > - Janice


> The surgery apparently was related to "men's issues" and that is all I
know.   

>>> end

Brian,

Thanks for that update . . . let's just be reassured given that he was in
there for surgery related to "women's issues"!

Heal well and quickly, Rolly.

Doug
'01 1150 GSP
Bear, DE


From tpcutter at aol.com  Fri Jun 11 13:38:22 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:38:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <4C123449.5010805@argolis.org>
References: <AANLkTikAFb7otBeW7rvrT8vgLI5tT4svncSeqKpogzX8@mail.gmail.com><8CCD7798930D100-2F98-11124@Webmail-m120.sysops.aol.com>
	<4C123449.5010805@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <8CCD7827EEDE620-2F98-12617@Webmail-m120.sysops.aol.com>

<<
Thanks, go and bring up cheesesteaks.  I've been trying to resist going 
over to Vito's all week.?>>

If you go, get an extra and drop it by here...I loves me some 
cheesesteak wid.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Piechota <piechota at argolis.org>
To: Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com>
Cc: misevich at gmail.com; mac-pac-l at jtan.com
Sent: Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:04 am
Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend


Tom Cutter wrote:?
> Have fun. How cool would it be to see Dave and Jamie pull up to a > 
Mac-Pac Cheesesteak run? It would only be cooler if Dave bought all the 
> cheesesteaks.   nom-nom-nom...?
?
?

  

From mmehalik at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 13:50:04 2010
From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:50:04 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Tire Plug Party and Changing!
In-Reply-To: <4C118E70.8080206@argolis.org>
References: <4C118E70.8080206@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikb8JcUjaiklwGq2AOIMuMR00e5eZy3WfPZ_iw5@mail.gmail.com>

I'm in for sometime sat eve or Sunday (your choice) if possible for
mounting (and plugging if the job remains). Fair warning, I've used
the tired swap monster exactly once, and I had the help of 2
others(one of them Earle). As a bonus though we'll get to see how my
first ever gummy worm application looks on the inside, 3000 miles
later(not intentional).

-mark


On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Matt Piechota <piechota at argolis.org> wrote:
> I picked up a nail in my back tire, likely on Saturday. ?I'm not too
> hurt about it since That tire wasn't going to pass inspection this month
> anyways. :) ?So, I'm probably going to attempt plugging it tomorrow
> evening. ?If anyone wants to show up and watch me screw it all up, come
> on by. ?I'll provide food (likely hot dogs and hamburgers on the grill
> or pizza). ?Please, please let me know if you're coming though. ?If I
> don't hear from anyone, I might just say screw it and go out for dinner.
>
> Also, if anyone is looking to be in the tire room early Saturday or any
> time Sunday, I'd be much obliged. ?Otherwise, I'll just swing by one day
> during the week.
> _______________________________________________
> Mac-pac-l mailing list
> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
>

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 14:01:23 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:01:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Tire Plug Party and Changing!
In-Reply-To: <4C118E70.8080206@argolis.org>
References: <4C118E70.8080206@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinzjyEINZJ-PdlZED-1YlMV36PsXsyguJ6gl63a@mail.gmail.com>

Matt:

This demonstration is for tonight (Friday)? I would love to watch this
and would even like you to use my equipment. Can you give me the
address for the GPS anmd the time? I will be delighted t bring a case
of beer. I will be coming in the truck, as I just did 200 miles on the
bike yesterday, and it has left me a bit of a cripple.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Fri Jun 11 14:13:11 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:13:11 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikAFb7otBeW7rvrT8vgLI5tT4svncSeqKpogzX8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikAFb7otBeW7rvrT8vgLI5tT4svncSeqKpogzX8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <27801.12.181.211.35.1276265591.squirrel@12.181.211.35>

> My oldest daughter Jamie ( I've posted some videos of her singing )
> and I are taking the MSF basic riders course this weekend starting
> this evening.
>

That is great.  The training will be good for all transportation modes. 
They really work on keeping your eyes up.  "Look where you want to go"
will serve her will on a motorcycle, car, bicycle and even walking.

I have taken the BRC once and the ERC twice and it has been good for me. 
It does not hurt to have a trooper critique your bad habits for a couple
of hours.

Have Fun,

Joe



From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 14:14:50 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:14:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <8CCD7798930D100-2F98-11124@Webmail-m120.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTikAFb7otBeW7rvrT8vgLI5tT4svncSeqKpogzX8@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCD7798930D100-2F98-11124@Webmail-m120.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil4qk4_nLH6rLpiIbi8XD9AXnJhWKw2vihnRap1@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/11/10, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:

>  One suggestion: Let her sit alone and work with the instructors.You're
>  going to discover that your riding ideas may differ significantly from
>  what they are teaching. I see a lot of people mis-instruct their
>  friends and loved ones in the fine art of motorcycle riding.

Not a bad point.  When I took it I discovered all my bad riding
habits.  Not that I corrected all of them, but now I knew them.

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From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 14:49:05 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:49:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guzzi - Blank dash? WTF
In-Reply-To: <8CCD6133D41C485-1638-10A1@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCD5E934F8EA6A-172C-15085@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>
	<4C0F9157.9040202@ptd.net> <01ca01cb07da$7c68f7b0$753ae710$@com>
	<AANLkTikueKV3yjeaqaND5e_bJglZZRrSZRjunSh6XQud@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCD6133D41C485-1638-10A1@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimCf1iVoRwXswAlzY-HjDoHhO3tKN57sWrUmFer@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Tom Et Al:

Mr. Cutter wrote:

"I'd like to hear the dealer's side of the story."

I would too. And if that was my bike, I wouldn't want the wrong wiring
harness installed on it either. If Moto Guzzi had any integrity, They
would have a US service rep (on a Vice President level) personally
contact this guy to assist in making it right. (And maybe I'm dreaming
here...) But the economy is such that buyers can be very choosy about
how they spend their limited dollars. Now this guy may be stuck with
this bike, but a determined individual could make this the most
expensive machine that Moto Guzzi never fixed correctly.

I have no idea what this bike cost, but I'm sure it wasn't chump change.

Is there a way to determine if other bikes of this model have had the
same problems.




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Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 14:57:39 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:57:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] anti-motorcycle fascista in Utah
In-Reply-To: <0E062FE823504B138E9FB678D0C18D0F@Tekki>
References: <0E062FE823504B138E9FB678D0C18D0F@Tekki>
Message-ID: <AANLkTila-LVTte5_HRijGfhpUtyvR5zTmC1qNHPnlj9v@mail.gmail.com>

It sounds to me like this was a revenue generating experiment gone
sour. Now a poorly-maintained motorcycle is just as much of a threat
to the general public as it is to the rider... And unlicensed
scofflaws and the uninsured, and unregistered can expect to be caught
sometime. Yet what happens when communities seek to establish ans
maintain federal noise standards? This iws likely to become more
commonplace, if not as blatant.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 15:14:52 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:14:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Early 1900's color photograph collection
Message-ID: <AANLkTik05skfjkonhJOInH1DF1EbbUX0DARFJh0RTNnl@mail.gmail.com>

Very intriguing set of early 1900's color photographs:
 http://citynoise.org/article/10598
(WS)

There are a LOT of them.? A LOT.


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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 15:19:35 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:19:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: I wonder if this would help with the oil spill in the
	Gulf?
Message-ID: <AANLkTinQNPGQk0upb3Q01yvqvTPhES911wcbk8j1lGgk@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICKLGYs8CE8
(WS)

You would just need a longer snorkel right?  Operator might be an issue too.

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From tpcutter at aol.com  Fri Jun 11 17:04:32 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:04:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: I wonder if this would help with the oil spill in
 the Gulf?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinQNPGQk0upb3Q01yvqvTPhES911wcbk8j1lGgk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinQNPGQk0upb3Q01yvqvTPhES911wcbk8j1lGgk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD79F4C0D1A1C-E78-5F72@webmail-d062.sysops.aol.com>


<<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICKLGYs8CE8(WS)You would just need a 
longer snorkel right?  Operator might be an issue too.>>

What a jerk! He drove right past the two drowning girls who were waving 
for help, never even stopped.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???


From piechota at argolis.org  Fri Jun 11 17:17:14 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:17:14 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Tire Plug Party and Changing!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinzjyEINZJ-PdlZED-1YlMV36PsXsyguJ6gl63a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C118E70.8080206@argolis.org>
	<AANLkTinzjyEINZJ-PdlZED-1YlMV36PsXsyguJ6gl63a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C126F9A.6090108@argolis.org>

Jack Riepe wrote:
> Matt:
> 
> This demonstration is for tonight (Friday)? I would love to watch this
> and would even like you to use my equipment. Can you give me the
> address for the GPS anmd the time? I will be delighted t bring a case
> of beer. I will be coming in the truck, as I just did 200 miles on the
> bike yesterday, and it has left me a bit of a cripple.
> 
> 

Yes, tonight, let's say 7PM.  I've never patched a tire, so I might as 
well try.  The house is a mess though, fair warning.

So far there aren't many responders, so a case of beer isn't necessary. 
I have a few beers, more than 12, less than 24, so I don't think a case 
is required. :)  Thanks for the offer though!

Location: 125 Marquis Dr, Coatesville PA 19320.

From rsorens at comcast.net  Fri Jun 11 20:23:46 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:23:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: I wonder if this would help with the oil spill in
	the Gulf?
In-Reply-To: <8CCD79F4C0D1A1C-E78-5F72@webmail-d062.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <F1C8D08ADD584C33A79A69039EB2BC4E@Tekki>

>
<<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICKLGYs8CE8

Kinda reminds me of Earle's 1st GS, don't it???


From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 22:34:39 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:34:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Tire Plug Party and Changing!
In-Reply-To: <4C126F9A.6090108@argolis.org>
References: <4C118E70.8080206@argolis.org>
	<AANLkTinzjyEINZJ-PdlZED-1YlMV36PsXsyguJ6gl63a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C126F9A.6090108@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilzG8uI2IROWzohZen4avbvSX2UAqHKOKmK4ltr@mail.gmail.com>

Leaving now, running a hair late. (Work related).


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Jack
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West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 22:53:51 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:53:51 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: 4 cool WS commercials
Message-ID: <AANLkTikDlcCp1sPEKOZ9KA_e890VXX1QvEuxkXKP-Bqq@mail.gmail.com>

This one is for Veet a hair removal product.  Guys may wince after
lusting a bit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8_5atSG7Jc

This one is well and truly a HOOT.  The punch line is right at the
end.  PETA would NOT be amused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVD0_qNsjVY

This is for insurance of all things.  Those concerned about LTC
insurance may take some lessons here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h_HIGUmJWE

I am SURE that US parking "authority persons" would NOT be as amused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klcntyim1Ak

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From bmwbrian at voicenet.com  Fri Jun 11 22:58:32 2010
From: bmwbrian at voicenet.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:58:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] I wonder what the local LCBs would think of Beer Slushies?
Message-ID: <AANLkTinhyIHECMxkCN37V8TAAHHgF6vpPO7t9RXNzWiN@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.portlandfoodanddrink.com/2010/06/pok-pok-jelly-beer-now-available/
(WS)

It's a slushy machine for beer -just looks like jelly, no real jelly involved.



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From Ducdude at verizon.net  Fri Jun 11 23:11:48 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:11:48 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] [Norton AntiSpam] Re: OT: I wonder if this would help
 with the oil spill in the Gulf?
References: <F1C8D08ADD584C33A79A69039EB2BC4E@Tekki>
Message-ID: <4FBDA8A85EA24054ABD8CF9E918191B7@heilveil5e3fdd>

Ohhhh that there,,,,That is just WRONG!!!

Duc
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Sorensen" <rsorens at comcast.net>
To: "'Tom Cutter'" <tpcutter at aol.com>; <bmwbrian at gmail.com>; 
<mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 4:23 PM
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [MAC-PAC] OT: I wonder if this would help 
with the oil spill in the Gulf?


> >
> <<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICKLGYs8CE8
>
> Kinda reminds me of Earle's 1st GS, don't it???
>
> _______________________________________________
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From piechota at argolis.org  Fri Jun 11 23:15:22 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:15:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] [Norton AntiSpam] Re: OT: I wonder if this would help
 with the oil spill in the Gulf?
In-Reply-To: <4FBDA8A85EA24054ABD8CF9E918191B7@heilveil5e3fdd>
References: <F1C8D08ADD584C33A79A69039EB2BC4E@Tekki>
	<4FBDA8A85EA24054ABD8CF9E918191B7@heilveil5e3fdd>
Message-ID: <4C12C38A.6070803@argolis.org>

Eric Ducdude wrote:

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick Sorensen" <rsorens at comcast.net>
> To: "'Tom Cutter'" <tpcutter at aol.com>; <bmwbrian at gmail.com>; 
> <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 4:23 PM
> Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [MAC-PAC] OT: I wonder if this would help 
> with the oil spill in the Gulf?
> 
> 
>> <<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICKLGYs8CE8
>>
>> Kinda reminds me of Earle's 1st GS, don't it???

 > Ohhhh that there,,,,That is just WRONG!!!

How about, "There's not that much resemblance, the truck stayed upright 
and running."

From gary5410 at aol.com  Fri Jun 11 23:42:28 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:42:28 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: 4 cool WS commercials + breast implants
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikDlcCp1sPEKOZ9KA_e890VXX1QvEuxkXKP-Bqq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikDlcCp1sPEKOZ9KA_e890VXX1QvEuxkXKP-Bqq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD7D6E322EA81-2120-31C0D@webmail-m040.sysops.aol.com>

Check out these breast implants......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvSP0hRAk5U&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com>
To: Mac-Pac <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
Sent: Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:53 pm
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: 4 cool WS commercials


This one is for Veet a hair removal product.  Guys may wince after
lusting a bit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8_5atSG7Jc

This one is well and truly a HOOT.  The punch line is right at the
end.  PETA would NOT be amused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVD0_qNsjVY

This is for insurance of all things.  Those concerned about LTC
insurance may take some lessons here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h_HIGUmJWE

I am SURE that US parking "authority persons" would NOT be as amused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klcntyim1Ak

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 00:05:30 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:05:30 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: 4 cool WS commercials + breast implants
In-Reply-To: <8CCD7D6E322EA81-2120-31C0D@webmail-m040.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTikDlcCp1sPEKOZ9KA_e890VXX1QvEuxkXKP-Bqq@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCD7D6E322EA81-2120-31C0D@webmail-m040.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimty2_wNNrgyIyKqw_l8lL47Lopoy2UpUZPmWe2@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/11/10, Gary Christman <gary5410 at aol.com> wrote:
> Check out these breast implants......
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvSP0hRAk5U&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Bobby at MCC would have difficulty fitting him I bet!!!

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 00:09:57 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:09:57 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Whatever your kids did with a car will likely not
	match this
Message-ID: <AANLkTimKQLpB1Ltx-4qYxf1pl1mvwB2y26nzD_iAZRTe@mail.gmail.com>

This one EVERYONE found out about....

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/car-life/cheney/globe-journalists-son-crashes-180000-porsche/article1574334/#photos
(WS)

Amazing how calm the Porsche guy was, but then they showed the pic
that "topped this".

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 00:12:12 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:12:12 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Amazing stuff kids do....
Message-ID: <AANLkTilL-pLju6T-2GM9VTXVBvRvj2Mny2xjLhMALwak@mail.gmail.com>

This IS Friday Funnies since it is NOT YOU!!

http://shitmykidsruined.tumblr.com/
(WS really except for the name)

Amazing that CPS is not called more after seeing some of these.

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From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Sat Jun 12 00:33:05 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:33:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] [Norton AntiSpam] Re: OT: I wonder if this would help
	with the oil spill in the Gulf?
In-Reply-To: <4FBDA8A85EA24054ABD8CF9E918191B7@heilveil5e3fdd>
Message-ID: <4C129D81.21102.31992BC@localhost>



> Ohhhh that there,,,,That is just WRONG!!!
> 
> Duc
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick Sorensen" <rsorens at comcast.net>
> To: "'Tom Cutter'" <tpcutter at aol.com>; <bmwbrian at gmail.com>; 
> <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 4:23 PM
> Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [MAC-PAC] OT: I wonder if this would
> help with the oil spill in the Gulf?
> 
> 
> > >
> > <<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICKLGYs8CE8
> >

Interesting technology.  There are a lot of things that need to be 
kept dry.  #1 is the ignition, which in 1940 had points.  You also 
had to keep water out of the clutch, transmission and differential.  
These items could not be sealed as they had to breath in operation.  
I think they had a small air pump that kept a little positive 
pressure on everything.  You also have to keep fuel flowing, but keep 
the water out of the gas tank.  Lots of details.  I wonder what the 
engine fan and belts thought about running under water???

Still a cool trick.

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 01:32:59 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:32:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: If your cellphone is driving you nutz when you want
	to dial someone
Message-ID: <AANLkTil7YBZG55Azj3fHMZkaRNn0ddLGZjPxTpon9DnB@mail.gmail.com>

These phones may just be for you:

http://www.textually.org/textually/archives/2008/05/020150.htm

http://nosheep.net/story/nokia-rotary-cellphone/

http://www.scribd.com/doc/98263/RETRO-ROTARY-CELLPHONE

THNX to Wayne for finding some images to go with the prod that I got.
I suspect none of these have the SOLIDITY of the old Western Union
Bakelite body phones.  Those phones, the handset alone would be used
to well and truly knock someone out and then pound them to a pulp.
Hard to do with a modern cell phone.

I have no idea how you put in "#" or "*" on a rotary phone.

THNX to Wayne W. for the legwork.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 01:28:24 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:28:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] News from Vaentino Rossi after being "fixed"
Message-ID: <AANLkTikv5zEgsDNihKPec5_q2Aj7-ow7c25J4u4rtWEg@mail.gmail.com>

No, he can still have kids as far as I know.  This was for the leg
"fix".  There is NO spoiler here.

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/qa+with+valentino+rossi+on+his+release+from+hospital

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 01:39:19 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:39:19 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: More Friday Funnies
Message-ID: <AANLkTimuQotj8H_LXT0jRSo-nyaQEEwnps08E0S23fRf@mail.gmail.com>

This is just WRONG.

http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/2010/05/26/toilet-built-for-two/
(WS really)

Then there is this, where everything is OK up till the last photo.
http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/2010/06/03/window-display/
(WS)

There is other stuff there too.  I did not check it all.
http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/category/photos/awkward-hall-of-fame/

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From rsorens at comcast.net  Sat Jun 12 02:01:16 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:01:16 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <8CCD7827EEDE620-2F98-12617@Webmail-m120.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8F78CFF4B72A46BC978D143A99CAF0C8@Tekki>

>.I loves me some cheesesteak wid.

"WID"????  WTF?? where are you from? F'ing New York or something????


From rsorens at comcast.net  Sat Jun 12 02:17:56 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:17:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Owner's News - Ace of Clubs
Message-ID: <4B5C57B74D3440C9A76F37D920346524@Tekki>

I open up our copy, I'm paging thru and I see an article in the "Ace of
Clubs" section about the Wisconsin Badgers....

I don't know about anyone else (except Linda, that is) but my reaction, as
soon as I read it was:"Badgers?We doan need no steenking badgers!"

We need a Mac-Pac article for the Ace of Clubs section....anybody want to
help with this?

Badgers, PUH!




Rick Sorensen

R1150GS - Pseudo Adventure
"TEKKI" - 'iron knight'
R1150GS
"KANKU III" - 'to view the sky'

--------------------------------------------
"Politicians are like diapers.
They both need changing often and for the same reason."
Mark Twain


From wayne at 2zars.com  Sat Jun 12 02:23:16 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:23:16 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: 4 cool WS commercials + breast implants
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimty2_wNNrgyIyKqw_l8lL47Lopoy2UpUZPmWe2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikDlcCp1sPEKOZ9KA_e890VXX1QvEuxkXKP-Bqq@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCD7D6E322EA81-2120-31C0D@webmail-m040.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTimty2_wNNrgyIyKqw_l8lL47Lopoy2UpUZPmWe2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5or5161cvkol25bj499m6kbj6m205kc8qu@4ax.com>


>> Check out these breast implants......
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvSP0hRAk5U&NR=1&feature=fvwp
>
>Bobby at MCC would have difficulty fitting him I bet!!!


I'm betting Bobby would offer him a flip.

In case you don't know Bobby, ask him to see some flips next time you
are there.  Bring tampons for your ears.  

Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From wayne at 2zars.com  Sat Jun 12 02:11:38 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:11:38 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <8F78CFF4B72A46BC978D143A99CAF0C8@Tekki>
References: <8CCD7827EEDE620-2F98-12617@Webmail-m120.sysops.aol.com>
	<8F78CFF4B72A46BC978D143A99CAF0C8@Tekki>
Message-ID: <bvq516llk234mcqprlk0h68oglqc55s5a3@4ax.com>



>>.I loves me some cheesesteak wid.
>
>"WID"????  WTF?? where are you from? F'ing New York or something????

WTF right back at 'ya.  I'm a WID man myself.  Are you unfamiliar with
the term WID?   Do you need assistance with a translation?. 



Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From wayne at 2zars.com  Sat Jun 12 02:29:24 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:29:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: More Friday Funnies
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimuQotj8H_LXT0jRSo-nyaQEEwnps08E0S23fRf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimuQotj8H_LXT0jRSo-nyaQEEwnps08E0S23fRf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a2s51655j6gcpbv2qvtfvjucvlqkauhe09@4ax.com>


>Then there is this, where everything is OK up till the last photo.
>http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/2010/06/03/window-display/
>(WS)

That is seriously funny.  I think I peed a little.  I'm still smirking
and deciding who I'm sending this to.  


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From tpcutter at aol.com  Sat Jun 12 03:29:18 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:29:18 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <bvq516llk234mcqprlk0h68oglqc55s5a3@4ax.com>
References: <8CCD7827EEDE620-2F98-12617@Webmail-m120.sysops.aol.com>
	<8F78CFF4B72A46BC978D143A99CAF0C8@Tekki>
	<bvq516llk234mcqprlk0h68oglqc55s5a3@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD7F6937B0C72-628-AE8A@webmail-m073.sysops.aol.com>


>>.I loves me some cheesesteak wid.>>"WID"????  WTF?? where are you 
 from? F'ing New York or something????WTF right back at 'ya.  I'm a WID 
man myself.  Are you unfamiliar withthe term WID?   Do you need 
assistance with a translation?. >>

Easy on him, Wayne. He's a white boy from the 'burbs. Probably eats 
mayonnaise in his cheesesteak.

:)


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???

From Braveirwin at aol.com  Sat Jun 12 10:53:54 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:53:54 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
Message-ID: <6508f.424cba9c.3944c142@aol.com>



In a message dated 6/11/2010 11:30:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  tpcut
ter at aol.com writes:


>>.I loves me some cheesesteak wid.>>"WID"????   WTF?? where are you 
from? F'ing New York or something????WTF right back at  'ya.  I'm a WID 
man myself.  Are you unfamiliar withthe term  WID?   Do you need 
assistance with a translation?.  >>

Easy on him, Wayne. He's a white boy from the 'burbs. Probably  eats 
mayonnaise in his cheesesteak.
Yeah, I'm from even further back. Feeding and milking those cows on the  
farm. I "need assistance with a translation." Is it an acronym, or just short  
for "with", perhaps "everything?" That's my best guess. 
Roddy. 


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From piechota at argolis.org  Sat Jun 12 11:07:04 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:07:04 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <6508f.424cba9c.3944c142@aol.com>
References: <6508f.424cba9c.3944c142@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C136A58.2050300@argolis.org>

Braveirwin at aol.com wrote:
> Yeah, I'm from even further back. Feeding and milking those cows on the  
> farm. I "need assistance with a translation." Is it an acronym, or just short  
> for "with", perhaps "everything?" That's my best guess. 

Winner, winner!  Chicken Dinner!

As I understand it, 'wid' is South Philly accent for 'with'.  Refers to 
saute'd onions.  I'm 'wid out', personally.

From darkside at ix.netcom.com  Sat Jun 12 11:09:22 2010
From: darkside at ix.netcom.com (Darkside)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:09:22 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] News from Vaentino Rossi after being "fixed"
Message-ID: <26212059.1276340962877.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>




>From: Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com>
>Subject: [MAC-PAC] News from Vaentino Rossi after being "fixed"
>
>No, he can still have kids as far as I know.  This was for the leg
>"fix".  There is NO spoiler here.
>
>http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/qa+with+valentino+rossi+on+his+release+from+hospital
>

so in answer number 3 he says the airbag in his leathers worked perfectly.  

there are airbags in the leathers?  i have never heard of that before.  
i'm not sure how i'm gona google that, but if anyone has details on it 
i'm definetly curious about it.

peace
eric
 


From piechota at argolis.org  Sat Jun 12 11:34:55 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:34:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: 4 cool WS commercials + breast implants
In-Reply-To: <8CCD7D6E322EA81-2120-31C0D@webmail-m040.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTikDlcCp1sPEKOZ9KA_e890VXX1QvEuxkXKP-Bqq@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCD7D6E322EA81-2120-31C0D@webmail-m040.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C1370DF.8050208@argolis.org>

Gary Christman wrote:
> Check out these breast implants......
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvSP0hRAk5U&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Iguana Mike must have a hell of a time finding a helmet that fits.

From wayne at 2zars.com  Sat Jun 12 12:40:29 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:40:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <6508f.424cba9c.3944c142@aol.com>
References: <6508f.424cba9c.3944c142@aol.com>
Message-ID: <oqv61692cdgpubtu7mr31si4j1u65eocl5@4ax.com>


>Yeah, I'm from even further back. Feeding and milking those cows on the  
>farm. I "need assistance with a translation." Is it an acronym, or just short  
>for "with", perhaps "everything?" That's my best guess. 

WID = with fried onions


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Sat Jun 12 13:10:00 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:10:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikAFb7otBeW7rvrT8vgLI5tT4svncSeqKpogzX8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C838FF68.4336%jasiii@earthlink.net>


> My oldest daughter Jamie ( I've posted some videos of her singing )
> and I are taking the MSF basic riders course this weekend starting
> this evening.
> --
> Dave Misevich

What a great bonding time...

I will be taking, for the second time, the advance course on July 3, again
to learn what additional bad habits' I have picked up..

Great idea ...  I hope both of you enjoy the time together and try to stay
away from her... Let the instructors do the teaching.. You just learn (grin)

Enjoy

Jim 



From rsorens at comcast.net  Sat Jun 12 13:28:12 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:28:12 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <bvq516llk234mcqprlk0h68oglqc55s5a3@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <B0D853581B85491FA52FD4FA0F56D7CF@Tekki>

>>"WID"????  WTF?? where are you from? F'ing New York or something????

>WTF right back at 'ya.  I'm a WID man myself.  Are you unfamiliar with
the term WID?   Do you need assistance with a translation?. 


Ther term is "wiT"....suburbanites, peh!  :-{)

As the shirt said on the cheesesteak run: djaeatyet?


From rsorens at comcast.net  Sat Jun 12 13:43:03 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:43:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <8CCD7F6937B0C72-628-AE8A@webmail-m073.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <5CD1E5C1524E42149A793E1DA133E9AC@Tekki>

>He's a white boy from the 'burbs. 
SHE-it....north Philly, bud


>Probably eats mayonnaise in his cheesesteak.
AHHHHHRRG! Sacrilege!


From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Sat Jun 12 13:44:26 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:44:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Kevin Cameron explains it
Message-ID: <4C1356FA.20430.94F04D@localhost>

In this months Cycle World Kevin Cameron talks about different crank 
configurations and how they relate to on-track performance.  In 
particular, it is the typical 180? crank on a 4-cylinder engine vs 
the 90? crank in the Yamaha R1.  The first thing is that IT HAS 
NOTHING TO DO WITH POWER PRODUCTION.  For the sake of argument let's 
say both bike have the same bore, stroke, cam and head and that the 
only difference is the crank configuration.

With the 180? crank all 4 pistons stop at the same time.  The energy 
to stop them has to come from somewhere.  The only place to get it is 
from the crank.  This means the crank gets sped up a bit by the 
pistons stopping.  Conversely, all 4 pistons are going at the maximum 
speed 90? later.  This energy also comes from the crank, it needs to 
slow down a bit.  Think of sitting in a spinning office chair and 
putting your arms all the way out, the chair slows.  Pulling them in, 
the chair spins faster.  With a 180? crank your arms are swinging in 
and out 4 times a revolution.  Speed up, slow down, speed up, slow 
down.

Now with a 90? crank, 2 of the pistons are stopped while 2 are going 
at full speed.  The pistons are trading energy with each other, 
instead of with the crank.  In the spinning office chair, one arm is 
going out as the other is going in.  The chair rotates at an almost 
constant speed.

By the way, a 90? V-twin has the same balanced trading.

This translates to more consistent traction when it is needed.

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From rsorens at comcast.net  Sat Jun 12 13:49:04 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:49:04 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <4C136A58.2050300@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <F21A3B3B35174C26A515D4274F463A4F@Tekki>

>...'wid' is South Philly accent for 'with'. 

Once again, guys: the term is "wiT". What'r youse guys? From da country or
sumptin'?
Do I gots to come ober dere and kickg your-collective-ass's?
Sit on a stoop for while, learn yourself sumptin


From tpcutter at aol.com  Sat Jun 12 13:35:55 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:35:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <B0D853581B85491FA52FD4FA0F56D7CF@Tekki>
Message-ID: <8CCD84B51C55732-E78-2C408@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com>


<<As the shirt said on the cheesesteak run: djaeatyet?>>

Whose got time for all that? It's "jeet?"


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s???


From tpcutter at aol.com  Sat Jun 12 14:07:57 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:07:57 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking?
Message-ID: <8CCD84FCAEB3DA5-E78-2CCBD@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com>

http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/ent...nking/#slide=2

First one looks like a great health-food kick. Some of the others are 
mildly disturbing.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From tpcutter at aol.com  Sat Jun 12 14:07:56 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:07:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking?
Message-ID: <8CCD84FCAB21BFD-E78-2CCBC@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com>

http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/ent...nking/#slide=2

First one looks like a great health-food kick. Some of the others are 
mildly disturbing.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 14:22:34 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:22:34 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking?
In-Reply-To: <8CCD84FCAEB3DA5-E78-2CCBD@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCD84FCAEB3DA5-E78-2CCBD@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik_TJNkSZ9_v2tW9uzgdOP3QnvPF1_eRGFnfAl4@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/12/10, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:
> http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/ent...nking/#slide=2
>
>  First one looks like a great health-food kick. Some of the others are
>  mildly disturbing.

It appears that IE is "helping" you buy abbreviating the URL.  Does
not help when trying to share the URL.  It burps at this end.  I think
there is a toggle for that.  (The URL issue, not the burping.)

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From tpcutter at aol.com  Sat Jun 12 14:41:28 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:41:28 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking, take #2
Message-ID: <8CCD85479C0B2F0-E78-2D8AD@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com>

OK, I got the link off a chat board that had it abbreviated. Try this:

http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2010/06/10/vintage-ads-thinking/#slide=2


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From ironbt01 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 15:41:13 2010
From: ironbt01 at gmail.com (Greg Roberts)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:41:13 -0500
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking, take #2
In-Reply-To: <8CCD85479C0B2F0-E78-2D8AD@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCD85479C0B2F0-E78-2D8AD@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinj_6i9URT2KleNTarLKzzVseGwehey6M_J_7YD@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:
> OK, I got the link off a chat board that had it abbreviated. Try this:
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2010/06/10/vintage-ads-thinking/#slide=2
>
>
> --
> Tom Cutter

Pancakes with the bacon already in 'em. I'd call that "breakfast".

And did when Mom made it for me.

Greg Roberts

From piechota at argolis.org  Sat Jun 12 15:53:41 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:53:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <8CCD84B51C55732-E78-2C408@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCD84B51C55732-E78-2C408@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C13AD85.9010807@argolis.org>

Tom Cutter wrote:
> <<As the shirt said on the cheesesteak run: djaeatyet?>>
> 
> Whose got time for all that? It's "jeet?"

No, djou?

Here, this explains it all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sMI2jb16eo

From mrmevans at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 15:27:45 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:27:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Amazing stuff kids do....
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilL-pLju6T-2GM9VTXVBvRvj2Mny2xjLhMALwak@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilL-pLju6T-2GM9VTXVBvRvj2Mny2xjLhMALwak@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikkHMz6AYiCl7ndmNyp-FiaLDG_cA_oiNMMFI1H@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> This IS Friday Funnies since it is NOT YOU!!
>
> http://shitmykidsruined.tumblr.com/
> (WS really except for the name)
>
> Amazing that CPS is not called more after seeing some of these.
>

Damn - and I never got photos of my old garage door after my sons, a
few years back now, discovered the following:

1) An electric garage door opening can indeed lift a 9 and 10 year old
child up in the air for 'rides' as it opens the garage door, and

2) The mounting of the aforementioned garage door opener was not
intended to hoist the additional extra weight, especially when both
boys tried to ride it together.

That was when Dad arrived home and wondered what all these bars and
chains were all over the garage floor....

Thankfully the bike was parked on the other side.

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 16:49:50 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:49:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Whatever your kids did with a car will likely not
	match this
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimKQLpB1Ltx-4qYxf1pl1mvwB2y26nzD_iAZRTe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimKQLpB1Ltx-4qYxf1pl1mvwB2y26nzD_iAZRTe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik2z8aNnzjY4zfO-Payen8l_Ir8v_dnfbXJKrhJ@mail.gmail.com>

How is it the guy has a $180,000 car parked in a shitty little garage
that has been spray painted by graffiti artists?


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From tpcutter at aol.com  Sat Jun 12 17:00:06 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:00:06 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Whatever your kids did with a car will likely not
 match this
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik2z8aNnzjY4zfO-Payen8l_Ir8v_dnfbXJKrhJ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimKQLpB1Ltx-4qYxf1pl1mvwB2y26nzD_iAZRTe@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik2z8aNnzjY4zfO-Payen8l_Ir8v_dnfbXJKrhJ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD867D7C4BF50-1C88-13D53@webmail-m031.sysops.aol.com>


<<How is it the guy has a $180,000 car parked in a shitty little 
garagethat has been spray painted by graffiti artists?>>

Same way a cynical biker from New Jersey gets to take fabulous travel 
escapades to faraway places: He's a journalist.

--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 19:34:27 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:34:27 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Owner's News - Ace of Clubs
In-Reply-To: <4B5C57B74D3440C9A76F37D920346524@Tekki>
References: <4B5C57B74D3440C9A76F37D920346524@Tekki>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinNFG8RIG4goiwWyPTiXmVcxfXeZJpYPa6WRKTL@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Rick Sorensen <rsorens at comcast.net> wrote:
> I open up our copy, I'm paging thru and I see an article in the "Ace of
> Clubs" section about the Wisconsin Badgers....
>
> I don't know about anyone else (except Linda, that is) but my reaction, as
> soon as I read it was:"Badgers?We doan need no steenking badgers!"
>
> We need a Mac-Pac article for the Ace of Clubs section....anybody want to
> help with this?
>
> Badgers, PUH!


I'm a GOPHER fan myself.

Go GOPHERS!!

Dano

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 19:39:50 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:39:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking, take #2
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinj_6i9URT2KleNTarLKzzVseGwehey6M_J_7YD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CCD85479C0B2F0-E78-2D8AD@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTinj_6i9URT2KleNTarLKzzVseGwehey6M_J_7YD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilteSDXAJGnTCrutdmQkHYWnmI-9NAr7RwUmvN0@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/12/10, Greg Roberts <ironbt01 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:
>  > OK, I got the link off a chat board that had it abbreviated. Try this:
>  >
>  > http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2010/06/10/vintage-ads-thinking/#slide=2
>
>
> Pancakes with the bacon already in 'em. I'd call that "breakfast".
>
>  And did when Mom made it for me.

You have to remember Tom that it is warmer down there.  So, economy of
motion is important.    You only have to pick up a strip dip it in the
syrup (No warming necessary down in the Souf.) and nosh away.

I wonder if they imported genuine Maple syrup from your home stomping
grounds to the Souf or if they used something like Sorghum syrup?

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From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 19:45:24 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:45:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Kevin Cameron explains it
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On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Joe Dille <joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us> wrote:
> In this months Cycle World Kevin Cameron talks about different crank
> configurations and how they relate to on-track performance. ?In
> particular, it is the typical 180? crank on a 4-cylinder engine vs
> the 90? crank in the Yamaha R1. ?The first thing is that IT HAS
> NOTHING TO DO WITH POWER PRODUCTION. ?For the sake of argument let's
> say both bike have the same bore, stroke, cam and head and that the
> only difference is the crank configuration.
>
> With the 180? crank all 4 pistons stop at the same time. ?The energy
> to stop them has to come from somewhere. ?The only place to get it is
> from the crank. ?This means the crank gets sped up a bit by the
> pistons stopping.

Must disagree Joe. Crank gets slowed down by pistons stopping to
change direction.

Conversely, all 4 pistons are going at the maximum
> speed 90? later. ?This energy also comes from the crank, it needs to
> slow down a bit.

If pistons go max, crank has no other choice but to do the same.



The thing that makes a difference is built in traction control.

Because the 90? allows a big honking space of crank shaft rotation
where no cylinders are firing. Allowing the tire to get traction back.

Like the big bang V-4 motor Denis Manning used to break the Land speed record


Dano

From tpcutter at aol.com  Sat Jun 12 19:47:22 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:47:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking, take #2
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilteSDXAJGnTCrutdmQkHYWnmI-9NAr7RwUmvN0@mail.gmail.com>
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<<I wonder if they imported genuine Maple syrup from your home 
stompinggrounds to the Souf or if they used something like Sorghum 
syrup?>>

If it didn't leak out of a maple tree, it ain't maple syrup and it 
ain't proper pancake syrup.

Jeez, first the cheesesteaks, now this!


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 20:30:58 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:30:58 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nicky Hayden and the Race Ducati at Mugello
Message-ID: <AANLkTik3O1KU1JGdkA3AnVOlCk_TRCDye4tddessZaQ2@mail.gmail.com>

http://superbikeplanet.com/image/2010/motogp/mugello/victor/_J1C4013.htm

I bet Ducdude or Jim Robinson would like to be in that position.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 20:33:20 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:33:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Strange US DoD experiments
Message-ID: <AANLkTilwwyljFdH4cIDVQLg7sgCSnkddyPNqpwrSDZkJ@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/06/gallery-crazy-military-experiments/all/1
(WS)

The goo gun results look like octopuses gone nutz.


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From mrmevans at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 21:30:28 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (mrmevans at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 21:30:28 +0000
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ride from exton Tomorrow?
Message-ID: <1064013091-1276378228-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-80721426-@bda788.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I'm teaching a class in Exton tomorrow until 1:00. If weather is clear I have a couple hours for a ride and a quick bite. No particular destination/direction in mind yet...let me know if you want to join.

Michael Evans 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA (Sent via Blackberry)

From Ducdude at verizon.net  Sat Jun 12 21:53:58 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:53:58 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nicky Hayden and the Race Ducati at Mugello
References: <AANLkTik3O1KU1JGdkA3AnVOlCk_TRCDye4tddessZaQ2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42A29E40413F421E928E5DAEF8D0BB76@heilveil5e3fdd>



> http://superbikeplanet.com/image/2010/motogp/mugello/victor/_J1C4013.htm
>
> I bet Ducdude or Jim Robinson would like to be in that position.
>


Well I sure would but unless she has goats I think  Jim would just be 
board..

Duc 


From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Sun Jun 13 03:39:03 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:39:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Techno Jeep
Message-ID: <4C141A97.18946.3910F0E@localhost>

This is kinda cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFybwg4wadI

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Sun Jun 13 04:36:38 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 00:36:38 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking, take #2
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Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues:

At 10:30am tomorrow morning, I am going to make those bacon/pancakes
using my homemade ultra/light pancakes and extra thick bacon,
slathered in real Vermont Maple syrup. Arrive about that time for
pancakes/bacon, and coffee.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From Ducdude at verizon.net  Sun Jun 13 12:25:27 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 08:25:27 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking, take #2
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OK so you mean Sunday morning right  today as you wrote that at 0036hrs 
today Sunday so tomorrow would be Monday technically..

Duc
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack Riepe" <jack.riepe at gmail.com>
To: "Tom Cutter" <tpcutter at aol.com>
Cc: <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking, take #2


Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues:

At 10:30am tomorrow morning, I am going to make those bacon/pancakes
using my homemade ultra/light pancakes and extra thick bacon,
slathered in real Vermont Maple syrup. Arrive about that time for
pancakes/bacon, and coffee.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe
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From ridebackroads at gmail.com  Sun Jun 13 12:42:48 2010
From: ridebackroads at gmail.com (Carl Boler)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 08:42:48 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What were we thinking.....
Message-ID: <AANLkTimEOitq2W6DfsrvcdBwPwNnjlo1qGKn8Bi4g5KW@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues:
At 10:30am tomorrow morning, I am going to make those bacon/pancakes
using my homemade ultra/light pancakes and extra thick bacon,
slathered in real Vermont Maple syrup. Arrive about that time for
pancakes/bacon, and coffee.

O.K> This is dirty, you sure know how to make a guy miss home!!!!!!

Carl, 110F in the shade!!!!
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From Ducdude at verizon.net  Sun Jun 13 13:20:14 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:20:14 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fw:  What were they thinking, take #2
Message-ID: <3F712E1D88FD4B30BE7564D73F2A82B4@heilveil5e3fdd>

Hey tubby is this event still on for Sunday 6/13/2010? TODAY?

 Please respond so we know it was not just the Jamison talking..

 Ciao,
 Duc
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jack Riepe" <jack.riepe at gmail.com>
> To: "Tom Cutter" <tpcutter at aol.com>
> Cc: <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 12:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking, take #2
>
>
> Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues:
>
> At 10:30am tomorrow morning, I am going to make those bacon/pancakes
> using my homemade ultra/light pancakes and extra thick bacon,
> slathered in real Vermont Maple syrup. Arrive about that time for
> pancakes/bacon, and coffee.
>
>
> -- 
> Fondest regards,
> Jack
> The Lindbergh Baby
> West Chester, Pa
>
> "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
> have to be nice to them, at first."
> ? My Mother, Rita Riepe
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From Ducdude at verizon.net  Sun Jun 13 13:20:36 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:20:36 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking, take #2
Message-ID: <6697706FE12449D9868D95E052CB853E@heilveil5e3fdd>


 Hey tubby is this event still on for Sunday 6/13/2010? TODAY?

 Please respond so we know it was not just the Jamison talking..

 Ciao,
 Duc
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jack Riepe" <jack.riepe at gmail.com>
>> To: "Tom Cutter" <tpcutter at aol.com>
>> Cc: <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 12:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking, take #2
>>
>>
>> Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues:
>>
>> At 10:30am tomorrow morning, I am going to make those bacon/pancakes
>> using my homemade ultra/light pancakes and extra thick bacon,
>> slathered in real Vermont Maple syrup. Arrive about that time for
>> pancakes/bacon, and coffee.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Fondest regards,
>> Jack
>> The Lindbergh Baby
>> West Chester, Pa
>>
>> "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
>> have to be nice to them, at first."
>> ? My Mother, Rita Riepe
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>> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
>> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
>>
> 


From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Sun Jun 13 13:26:46 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:26:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking, take #2
In-Reply-To: <6697706FE12449D9868D95E052CB853E@heilveil5e3fdd>
References: <6697706FE12449D9868D95E052CB853E@heilveil5e3fdd>
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I got the bacon out... I started my special pancake batter (sour cream
and butter milk). But I am out of orange juice. See you at 10:30am.



-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Sun Jun 13 13:40:15 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:40:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What were we thinking.....
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Is there anyway we can send Carl some of what you're having this
morning? I think if you send just the batter and raw bacon, he can
cook it on the hood of one of the Army vehicles!



On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Carl Boler <ridebackroads at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues:
> At 10:30am tomorrow morning, I am going to make those bacon/pancakes
> using my homemade ultra/light pancakes and extra thick bacon,
> slathered in real Vermont Maple syrup. Arrive about that time for
> pancakes/bacon, and coffee.
>
>

> O.K> This is dirty, you sure know how to make a guy miss home!!!!!!
>
> Carl, 110F in the shade!!!!

From reopropf at gmail.com  Sun Jun 13 14:05:19 2010
From: reopropf at gmail.com (Peter Frechie)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 10:05:19 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd:  What were they thinking, take #2
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Peter Frechie <reopropf at gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010
Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking, take #2
To: Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com>


Dearest Jack

You are worst patient in my practice. ?You have chosen a day to
prepare my fav breakfast, add 2 eggs over easy, when I am covering the
acute heart attack program at one of my hospitals. ?I will be unable
to attend.

Should any bastard get a bad case of indigestion please don't hesitate to call .

Regards, ?Peter

On Sunday, June 13, 2010, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues:
>
> At 10:30am tomorrow morning, I am going to make those bacon/pancakes
> using my homemade ultra/light pancakes and extra thick bacon,
> slathered in real Vermont Maple syrup. Arrive about that time for
> pancakes/bacon, and coffee.
>
>
> --
> Fondest regards,
> Jack
> The Lindbergh Baby
> West Chester, Pa
>
> "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
> have to be nice to them, at first."
> ? My Mother, Rita Riepe
> _______________________________________________
> Mac-pac-l mailing list
> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
>

From ridebackroads at gmail.com  Sun Jun 13 14:37:11 2010
From: ridebackroads at gmail.com (Carl Boler)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 10:37:11 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] As my time gets shorter and shorter
Message-ID: <AANLkTinxtnGGEZaP8IdiN-UyL9o0v4AjPBhf7VXnFHDe@mail.gmail.com>

O.K. we have Turkish and Indian cooks in our dining facility.  Food isn't
bad but it sure isn't home.  Wish I could  have a scenery change.  I saw
this lady in the dining facility wearing a purple top.  She looked out of
place in a sea of digital green and tan uniforms.  I told her she was a
breath of fresh air as she smiled in turn thinking I"m some type of freak!
The end of July will be here soon and I"ll head back home via Amsterdam. One
assignment down and one more to go.....

Carl
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From Ducdude at verizon.net  Sun Jun 13 18:20:15 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:20:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking, take #2
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Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues:

At 10:30am tomorrow morning, I am going to make those bacon/pancakes
using my homemade ultra/light pancakes and extra thick bacon,
slathered in real Vermont Maple syrup. Arrive about that time for
pancakes/bacon, and coffee.

Fondest regards,
Jack

Thanks Jack,

I had a great time and the food was quite different too, in a good way..  It 
was a great way to spend time on a Sunday morning.  The Storm chased me and 
the 748 all the way down the PATP  and I only got a few drops on me before I 
got home...Hell is landing here any second so it looks like I just made 
it...

Thanks again,

Duc 


From wayne at 2zars.com  Sun Jun 13 18:24:35 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:24:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking, take #2
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>
>I had a great time and the food was quite different too, in a good way..  It 
>was a great way to spend time on a Sunday morning.  The Storm chased me and 
>the 748 all the way down the PATP  and I only got a few drops on me before I 
>got home...Hell is landing here any second so it looks like I just made 
>it...
>

You got that right!  1.6" of rain in < 1 hour and still coming down!


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From cjschaffer at verizon.net  Sun Jun 13 18:35:03 2010
From: cjschaffer at verizon.net (C & R Schaffer)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:35:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking, take #2
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Message-ID: <CBD19243F8F54978B0BEEDD328A1627E@RozCharliePC>

Sorry to have missed it. I'm on strike as you may have seen in the news, so 
union duty calls.

Charlie

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Eric Ducdude" <Ducdude at verizon.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 2:20 PM
To: "Jack Riepe" <jack.riepe at gmail.com>
Cc: <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] What were they thinking, take #2

> Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues:
>
> At 10:30am tomorrow morning, I am going to make those bacon/pancakes
> using my homemade ultra/light pancakes and extra thick bacon,
> slathered in real Vermont Maple syrup. Arrive about that time for
> pancakes/bacon, and coffee.
>
> Fondest regards,
> Jack
>
> Thanks Jack,
>
> I had a great time and the food was quite different too, in a good way.. 
> It
> was a great way to spend time on a Sunday morning.  The Storm chased me 
> and
> the 748 all the way down the PATP  and I only got a few drops on me before 
> I
> got home...Hell is landing here any second so it looks like I just made
> it...
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Duc
>
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From chrisjac at ptd.net  Sun Jun 13 19:20:49 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:20:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Need some used high "E" 0.008 or 0.010 Guitar strings
Message-ID: <4C152F91.7080407@ptd.net>

Not off topic...I need the guitar string to poke out some jets which are 
difficult to access.  Why guitar string....spring steeel....wont break off!

Anyone have some scrap strings they could mail up?

Chris Jaccarino



From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Sun Jun 13 20:27:16 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:27:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Need some used high "E" 0.008 or 0.010 Guitar strings
In-Reply-To: <4C152F91.7080407@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <1600101249.5151911276460836259.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>


>Not off topic...I need the guitar string to poke out some jets which are 
>difficult to access. Why guitar string....spring steeel....wont break off! 
> 
>Anyone have some scrap strings they could mail up? 

Chris, 

You can buy single strings very inexpensively. I use them for antennas for model race cars. Just go into the music store and ask for the cheapest steel strings they have. Most of the time less than a buck. 

John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From reopropf at gmail.com  Sun Jun 13 20:48:57 2010
From: reopropf at gmail.com (Peter Frechie)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:48:57 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 90S Rally pictures
Message-ID: <AANLkTim0UCPMD4IoBGI00Uv29PggDlRFTWzREabf-P4j@mail.gmail.com>

A GREAT event hosted by Mac Kirkpatrick.

A great weather day, though warm.

Food, friendship and general sharing of a passion seems to be the glue
that binds.

Would view as a slideshow, first:


http://s598.photobucket.com/albums/tt69/Reopropf/R90S%20Rally%202010/



Peter

From gary5410 at aol.com  Sun Jun 13 21:48:48 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:48:48 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 90S Rally pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim0UCPMD4IoBGI00Uv29PggDlRFTWzREabf-P4j@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim0UCPMD4IoBGI00Uv29PggDlRFTWzREabf-P4j@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD95956E8ABDD-1790-2E101@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com>

Really cool to see all those bikes together!
Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Frechie <reopropf at gmail.com>

Would view as a slideshow, first:


http://s598.photobucket.com/albums/tt69/Reopropf/R90S%20Rally%202010/



Peter

From mrmevans at gmail.com  Sun Jun 13 22:58:47 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:58:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Here's a Ride Idea if Anyone Wants to Join Knoebels &
	Bill's Bike Barn
Message-ID: <AANLkTilwQlT-C5zMs7IocvNA1dRSYWHs7oxMGtejif1A@mail.gmail.com>

I will NOT be on this ride...this is through the Chester Country
Motorcycle Riders Group:


Knoebels Grove and Bill's Bike Barn
Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:00 AM

Chester County Motorcycle Riders Meetup

Meeting Place:
Wawa
1800 Ticonderoga Blvd
Eagle PA 19425


Ride Description:

Will plan on leaving the area, most likely the Wawa in Eagle at
9:00am. We'll take the scenic way up to Knoebels Grove, ride a few
rides and have lunch or visa-versa depending on what your stomach can
take. We can then take a 19 mile ride from there to Bill's Bike Barn
before heading home.

Come on out and enjoy the rides!!!!!!!

--
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From kaldewaay at live.com  Sun Jun 13 23:05:34 2010
From: kaldewaay at live.com (Alain Kaldewaay)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:05:34 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rev'it beat us
Message-ID: <SNT107-W284FB5A727158D0463F96BCADB0@phx.gbl>


Riders,
 
WTF Rev'it beat us to the game.
 
http://www.revit.eu/en/#/translab/video/trailertranslab/
 
DAK 		 	   		  
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From quinntex2000 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 13 23:28:54 2010
From: quinntex2000 at yahoo.com (Quinn Tex)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:28:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] --OT....how to miter?
In-Reply-To: <SNT107-W284FB5A727158D0463F96BCADB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <934403.2399.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Does anyone know how to miter and/or how to TEACH someone how to miter?  I'm trying to finish up a project and between my compound miter saw and the miter box, I just cannot seem to wrap my mind around how to do it.  



Georgina


      

From carolinecurran at comcast.net  Sun Jun 13 23:39:08 2010
From: carolinecurran at comcast.net (caroline curran)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:39:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] interesting from Wired:
Message-ID: <F42414C5-C77E-4B81-8BDB-812BA91A1E2E@comcast.net>


http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/06/motoczysz-e1pc/


caroline curran
215-651-3156





From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sun Jun 13 23:50:52 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:50:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rev'it beat us
In-Reply-To: <SNT107-W284FB5A727158D0463F96BCADB0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT107-W284FB5A727158D0463F96BCADB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikttFyBS4DvuWkuOZi-YeA2tSOBSxhYTi4hqUjM@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/13/10, Alain Kaldewaay <kaldewaay at live.com> wrote:
>
>  Riders,
>
>  WTF Rev'it beat us to the game.
>
>  http://www.revit.eu/en/#/translab/video/trailertranslab/

Please warn when it is a sh1tload of Flash video's that can't be
killed.  Had to kill FF and restart a bunch of sessions to get it to
STOP.  Especially with loud noise accompanying it.

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Ambassador BMW MOA   |
Brian Curry          |      Is Getting Old, Getting Old?
"DEERsSLAYER"        |      Aging Factors Can be Stopped
K75RTs both coasts   |      Find out more about it at
Chester Springs PA   |      http://www.nsevideos.com

From carolinecurran at comcast.net  Sun Jun 13 23:51:58 2010
From: carolinecurran at comcast.net (caroline curran)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:51:58 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] and the 1000RR in the Times:
Message-ID: <D31D3B36-EAF6-475B-951A-5DE5909FB343@comcast.net>

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/13/automobiles/autoreviews/13BIKE.html?hpw





caroline curran
215-651-3156





From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 00:00:00 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:00:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R leaving for Colorado
Message-ID: <AANLkTin_ZOr7x48Ab9ZfELfBhww5u2Bv1FUbmYHPmI1S@mail.gmail.com>

I'll be riding out in about an hour, to Estes Park, which is 70 miles
NW of Denver, about 1800 miles.

Taking the slab.  Expect to get there Tues PM.

This is for the 45th reunion of our Peace Corps Thailand group.  About
30 old buddies are getting together, as we do every 5 or ten years.

Returning home probably by next Sunday night, so I'll probably miss
3rd Sunday breakfast that day.

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From jfox204 at comcast.net  Mon Jun 14 00:05:05 2010
From: jfox204 at comcast.net (James T. Fox, IV)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:05:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] --OT....how to miter?
In-Reply-To: <934403.2399.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <934403.2399.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <071B3AF4-5149-409B-B4DC-1C5D5BB016AA@comcast.net>

Hello, Georgina,

	As a cabinetmaker, I've been known to cut the occasional miter.  What are you trying to do, exactly?  If you are in the Kimberton area, I could even show you how in my shop.

Jim Fox
R1100 GS
Phoenixville/Kimberton



On Jun 13, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Quinn Tex wrote:

> Does anyone know how to miter and/or how to TEACH someone how to miter?  I'm trying to finish up a project and between my compound miter saw and the miter box, I just cannot seem to wrap my mind around how to do it.  
> 
> 
> 
> Georgina
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Mac-pac-l mailing list
> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l


From piechota at argolis.org  Mon Jun 14 00:17:05 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:17:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rev'it beat us
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikttFyBS4DvuWkuOZi-YeA2tSOBSxhYTi4hqUjM@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT107-W284FB5A727158D0463F96BCADB0@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTikttFyBS4DvuWkuOZi-YeA2tSOBSxhYTi4hqUjM@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C157501.7040007@argolis.org>

Brian Curry wrote:
> On 6/13/10, Alain Kaldewaay <kaldewaay at live.com> wrote:
>>  Riders,
>>
>>  WTF Rev'it beat us to the game.
>>
>>  http://www.revit.eu/en/#/translab/video/trailertranslab/
> 
> Please warn when it is a sh1tload of Flash video's that can't be
> killed.  Had to kill FF and restart a bunch of sessions to get it to
> STOP.  Especially with loud noise accompanying it.

Must be a problem with your PC, Brian.  All I had to do to kill it was 
close the tab.

As for the trip, they probably had more money in gear from REV'IT than 
my bike is worth. :)

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 00:21:36 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:21:36 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rev'it beat us
In-Reply-To: <4C157501.7040007@argolis.org>
References: <SNT107-W284FB5A727158D0463F96BCADB0@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTikttFyBS4DvuWkuOZi-YeA2tSOBSxhYTi4hqUjM@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C157501.7040007@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimq9_tHpc9tT-oCbp3hjnD557WCHvQ3L-w8MWYn@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/13/10, Matt Piechota <piechota at argolis.org> wrote:
> Brian Curry wrote:
>
> > On 6/13/10, Alain Kaldewaay <kaldewaay at live.com> wrote:
> >
> > >  Riders,
> > >
> > >  WTF Rev'it beat us to the game.
> > >
> > >
> http://www.revit.eu/en/#/translab/video/trailertranslab/
> > >
> >
> > Please warn when it is a sh1tload of Flash video's that can't be
> > killed.  Had to kill FF and restart a bunch of sessions to get it to
> > STOP.  Especially with loud noise accompanying it.
> >
>
>  Must be a problem with your PC, Brian.  All I had to do to kill it was
> close the tab.

How many windows and tabs did you have open?  I have a GRUNCH.

The "music" still sux.

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Ambassador BMW MOA   |
Brian Curry          |      Is Getting Old, Getting Old?
"DEERsSLAYER"        |      Aging Factors Can be Stopped
K75RTs both coasts   |      Find out more about it at
Chester Springs PA   |      http://www.nsevideos.com

From piechota at argolis.org  Mon Jun 14 00:28:09 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:28:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rev'it beat us
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimq9_tHpc9tT-oCbp3hjnD557WCHvQ3L-w8MWYn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT107-W284FB5A727158D0463F96BCADB0@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTikttFyBS4DvuWkuOZi-YeA2tSOBSxhYTi4hqUjM@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C157501.7040007@argolis.org>
	<AANLkTimq9_tHpc9tT-oCbp3hjnD557WCHvQ3L-w8MWYn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C157799.7020508@argolis.org>

Brian Curry wrote:

>>  Must be a problem with your PC, Brian.  All I had to do to kill it was
>> close the tab.
> 
> How many windows and tabs did you have open?  I have a GRUNCH.

A couple, I'm pretty minimalist when it comes to my surfing habit.  I 
start to get annoyed if I have more than 5 tabs, and always use one window.

> The "music" still sux.

It wasn't that bad.  It could have been Jim Neighbors, that would have 
me running for the door.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czDvxsrWh_k
(I love the comments on this one, they might as well be screaming "GET 
OFF MY LAWN!")

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Mon Jun 14 00:33:21 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:33:21 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Need some used high "E" 0.008 or 0.010 Guitar strings
In-Reply-To: <1600101249.5151911276460836259.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1600101249.5151911276460836259.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C1578D1.5090100@ptd.net>

johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote:
>> Not off topic...I need the guitar string to poke out some jets which are 
>> difficult to access. Why guitar string....spring steeel....wont break off! 
>>
>> Anyone have some scrap strings they could mail up? 
>>     
>
> Chris, 
>
> You can buy single strings very inexpensively. I use them for antennas for model race cars. Just go into the music store and ask for the cheapest steel strings they have. Most of the time less than a buck. 
>
>   
John

Am surprised at you.  Did you not realize the facts...

1.  This is MAC-PAC
2.  Why should I spend $1.00 when there are helpful people willing to 
spend $0.43 and mail me the string?

I shall go to the music store...I had no idea strings were that cheap.

Thanks

Chris Jaccarino

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Mon Jun 14 00:35:20 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:35:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] --OT....how to miter?
In-Reply-To: <934403.2399.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <934403.2399.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C157948.9000605@ptd.net>

Quinn Tex wrote:
> Does anyone know how to miter and/or how to TEACH someone how to miter?  I'm trying to finish up a project and between my compound miter saw and the miter box, I just cannot seem to wrap my mind around how to do it.  
>
>
>
> Georgina
>
>
>       
> _______________________________________________
> Mac-pac-l mailing list
> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
>
>
>   
Call me...610-966-3500.....either that or there should be a You Tube 
video somewhere am sure.

Chris Jaccarino

From Doug at pencader.com  Mon Jun 14 00:39:08 2010
From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:39:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rev'it beat us
In-Reply-To: <4C157501.7040007@argolis.org>
References: <SNT107-W284FB5A727158D0463F96BCADB0@phx.gbl>	<AANLkTikttFyBS4DvuWkuOZi-YeA2tSOBSxhYTi4hqUjM@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C157501.7040007@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <000001cb0b5a$023e9890$06bbc9b0$@com>

Matt wrote in response to Brian;

>>> Flashing snips

>> Brian Curry wrote:
>>> On 6/13/10, Alain Kaldewaay <kaldewaay at live.com> wrote:
>>>>  Riders,
>>>>
>>>>  WTF Rev'it beat us to the game.
>>>>
>>>>  http://www.revit.eu/en/#/translab/video/trailertranslab/
>>> 
>>> Please warn when it is a sh1tload of Flash video's that can't be
>>> killed.  Had to kill FF and restart a bunch of sessions to get it to
>>> STOP.  Especially with loud noise accompanying it.

> Must be a problem with your PC, Brian.  All I had to do to kill it was 
> close the tab.

>>> end

Fellas,

I also had no trouble shutting it down . . . I know I also had just been
"automatically" notified that there was a new version of the Adobe Flash
Player available, which I had just downloaded.

Do you have that updated version on your machine, Brian?

Doug
'01 1150 GSP
Bear, DE


From piechota at argolis.org  Mon Jun 14 00:39:50 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:39:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Techno Jeep
In-Reply-To: <4C141A97.18946.3910F0E@localhost>
References: <4C141A97.18946.3910F0E@localhost>
Message-ID: <4C157A56.2070707@argolis.org>

Joe Dille wrote:
> This is kinda cool.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFybwg4wadI

I often thought about recording some of the machines when I worked at 
General Mills to do something like this.  No motivation. :(

This is a similar idea, but these guys parlayed it into several albums. 
  The angle grinder solo really works. :)  The music frankly isn't all 
that great, but the visuals are really cool.  Brian, if you didn't like 
the music from the REVIT thing, you will absolutely hate this. :)

Babyland - Dismissal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9fmC-qn7QE

From piechota at argolis.org  Mon Jun 14 00:43:03 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:43:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rev'it beat us
In-Reply-To: <000001cb0b5a$023e9890$06bbc9b0$@com>
References: <SNT107-W284FB5A727158D0463F96BCADB0@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTikttFyBS4DvuWkuOZi-YeA2tSOBSxhYTi4hqUjM@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C157501.7040007@argolis.org> <000001cb0b5a$023e9890$06bbc9b0$@com>
Message-ID: <4C157B17.3000904@argolis.org>

Doug wrote:
> I also had no trouble shutting it down . . . I know I also had just been
> "automatically" notified that there was a new version of the Adobe Flash
> Player available, which I had just downloaded.

Yeah, everyone should be updating their Flash Player and Acrobat Reader 
software.  There's a particularly nasty bug and there are exploits in 
the wild.  This got the '48 hour patch window' treatment at work (it's 
normally more like 30 days).


From snuz555 at comcast.net  Mon Jun 14 00:46:51 2010
From: snuz555 at comcast.net (snuz555)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:46:51 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] K75 For Sale
Message-ID: <1CF37598DB1C4C7C9A913FDB9F1E7607@Bert>

Howdy all,

My brother is looking to sell his 1990 K75.  It has a C fairing, factory 
bags and a Corbin seat.  It has less than 45K miles.  It has not been ridden 
since 2000, nor has it been serviced since then.  Color is red (red candy?). 
Will likely need new tires and a major service. It will probably need to be 
towed or, is a wizard is available to get it running ?... The bike otherwise 
is in great condition, all things considered. He's asking $2000/offers. The 
bike is stored is a garage just north of Wilmington, DE off of route 52.  I 
can be contacted at the email below on behalf of my brother..

Steve Autman
snuz555 at comcast.net 


From Braveirwin at aol.com  Mon Jun 14 00:56:51 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:56:51 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R leaving for Colorado
Message-ID: <8021.27765472.3946d853@aol.com>



In a message dated 6/13/2010 8:00:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com writes:


This  is for the 45th reunion of our Peace Corps Thailand group.  About
30  old buddies are getting together, as we do every 5 or ten  years.
============================================
 
Ride safe, Doug.
I'm envious of your reunions. Our Peace Corps projects (India 34 and India  
53, 1966 and 1968 respectively have only had one reunion. I did make the 
25th  anniversary celebration of the Peace Corps in D.C. many years ago.   
Roddy.


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From mrmevans at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 01:05:41 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:05:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] K75 For Sale
In-Reply-To: <1CF37598DB1C4C7C9A913FDB9F1E7607@Bert>
References: <1CF37598DB1C4C7C9A913FDB9F1E7607@Bert>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikLGZnv4KD9spZZYs-pmdRBgI7u_AaMO99yR2Pe@mail.gmail.com>

I'd consider that bike but I don't want people confusing me for Riepe
wjen they see me riding down the road.

On 6/13/10, snuz555 <snuz555 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Howdy all,
>
> My brother is looking to sell his 1990 K75.  It has a C fairing, factory
> bags and a Corbin seat.  It has less than 45K miles.  It has not been ridden
> since 2000, nor has it been serviced since then.  Color is red (red candy?).
> Will likely need new tires and a major service. It will probably need to be
> towed or, is a wizard is available to get it running ?... The bike otherwise
> is in great condition, all things considered. He's asking $2000/offers. The
> bike is stored is a garage just north of Wilmington, DE off of route 52.  I
> can be contacted at the email below on behalf of my brother..
>
> Steve Autman
> snuz555 at comcast.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mac-pac-l mailing list
> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
>

-- 
Sent from my mobile device

Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net  Mon Jun 14 01:34:31 2010
From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:34:31 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nicky Hayden and the Race Ducati at Mugello
References: <AANLkTik3O1KU1JGdkA3AnVOlCk_TRCDye4tddessZaQ2@mail.gmail.com>
	<42A29E40413F421E928E5DAEF8D0BB76@heilveil5e3fdd>
Message-ID: <D639A0A087CC492DB85382820F4999CF@home.robinson.org>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Eric Ducdude 

> http://superbikeplanet.com/image/2010/motogp/mugello/victor/_J1C4013.htm
>
> I bet Ducdude or Jim Robinson would like to be in that position.
>

Well I sure would but unless she has goats I think  Jim would just be 
board..

Duc 
______________________________________________


Motorcycle? What motorcycle?
What a leg! ;-)

Jim Robinson
West Chester PA


From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 01:44:04 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:44:04 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R leaving for Colorado
In-Reply-To: <8021.27765472.3946d853@aol.com>
References: <8021.27765472.3946d853@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimY3uCMZSnTomf5uLbPHylNIluccriBAR5ib0Fz@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 8:56 PM,  <Braveirwin at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 6/13/2010 8:00:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com writes:
>
> This is for the 45th reunion of our Peace Corps Thailand group.? About
> 30 old buddies are getting together, as we do every 5 or ten years.
>
> ============================================
>
> Ride safe, Doug.
> I'm envious of your reunions. Our Peace Corps projects (India 34 and India
> 53, 1966 and 1968 respectively have only had one reunion. I did make the
> 25th anniversary celebration of the Peace Corps in D.C. many years ago.
> Roddy.

Man, India was a tough assignment, lots of discouraged people there.
Thailand was lovely, really friendly villagers.  Though local
officials we worked with were rather corrupt by our standards, they
were sweet too.

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net  Mon Jun 14 01:51:48 2010
From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:51:48 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rev'it beat us
References: <SNT107-W284FB5A727158D0463F96BCADB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <62653C03648349B887A37E6F21E181D3@home.robinson.org>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Alain Kaldewaay 

Riders,
 
WTF Rev'it beat us to the game.
 
http://www.revit.eu/en/#/translab/video/trailertranslab/
 
DAK      
----------------------------------

Wow Rev'it even supplies the women? Hmmm
I'll take 2 to go please. :-)
Bastards!

Jim Robinson
West Chester PA


From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 02:09:59 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:09:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] K75 For Sale
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikLGZnv4KD9spZZYs-pmdRBgI7u_AaMO99yR2Pe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1CF37598DB1C4C7C9A913FDB9F1E7607@Bert>
	<AANLkTikLGZnv4KD9spZZYs-pmdRBgI7u_AaMO99yR2Pe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinfzvTy4HF-96PFSWSAhoL8HotdoCGcwSEUsLtU@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Mike:

Like word games? KMA... YMF.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 02:17:41 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:17:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Wahoo Hayabusa's BACK!!!
Message-ID: <AANLkTilSF4N3SU3OuhfmDUdPXavUtZKIrww6Xu5HkfO-@mail.gmail.com>

No, not the bike, the space probe.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/14/2926030.htm

Japanese space probe crashes to Earth

Japanese scientists are waiting to find out if a space capsule which
crashed to Earth in outback South Australia last night contains dust
from an ancient, distant asteroid.

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From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 02:44:24 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:44:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Hip Replacement results
Message-ID: <AANLkTinOkz0FytAbjmLf7ze8P2sFYyu-PsLFsVWv-_rI@mail.gmail.com>

On May 3rd, I had my hip replacement done.

I had previously asked the Pac if anyone had any experience with this,
and as usual, got very useful info.

Special thanks to Caroline Curran who suggested that I get in great
shape first (lost 20lb and exercised) that was a very important
ingredient.

Now on June 10th I have no pain and nearly total range of motion
restored (riding my bikes).

Only 37 days to change from bone to titanium and cobalt steel.

I am glad I made this choice now (not so much immediately after).

Thanks Pac.

ECO Dan

Greensboro NC

From gary5410 at aol.com  Mon Jun 14 03:01:47 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:01:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Hip Replacement results
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinOkz0FytAbjmLf7ze8P2sFYyu-PsLFsVWv-_rI@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinOkz0FytAbjmLf7ze8P2sFYyu-PsLFsVWv-_rI@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD9851026A44E-1790-32EC4@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com>

Glad it went well!
Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com>
To: Mac-Pac <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 13, 2010 10:44 pm
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Hip Replacement results


On May 3rd, I had my hip replacement done.

I had previously asked the Pac if anyone had any experience with this,
and as usual, got very useful info.

Special thanks to Caroline Curran who suggested that I get in great
shape first (lost 20lb and exercised) that was a very important
ingredient.

Now on June 10th I have no pain and nearly total range of motion
restored (riding my bikes).

Only 37 days to change from bone to titanium and cobalt steel.

I am glad I made this choice now (not so much immediately after).

Thanks Pac.

ECO Dan

Greensboro NC
_______________________________________________
Mac-pac-l mailing list
Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l

  

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 03:03:54 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:03:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Hip Replacement results
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinOkz0FytAbjmLf7ze8P2sFYyu-PsLFsVWv-_rI@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinOkz0FytAbjmLf7ze8P2sFYyu-PsLFsVWv-_rI@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikYRGSPyq29CewEKid7Lf5NDSEn0s0Jd8UCnhVI@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/13/10, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:

>  I am glad I made this choice now (not so much immediately after).

Keep the knees in even better shape.  Everyone I know of that has had
a knee(s) done has said "If I knew how much it was going to hurt
afterward, I would not have had it done."  This was with tremendous
pain before.  Eventually it is "much better" but getting there is a
bitch/bastard.

-- 
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Brian Curry          |      Is Getting Old, Getting Old?
"DEERsSLAYER"        |      Aging Factors Can be Stopped
K75RTs both coasts   |      Find out more about it at
Chester Springs PA   |      http://www.nsevideos.com

From tpcutter at aol.com  Mon Jun 14 03:18:35 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:18:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nicky Hayden and the Race Ducati at Mugello
In-Reply-To: <D639A0A087CC492DB85382820F4999CF@home.robinson.org>
References: <AANLkTik3O1KU1JGdkA3AnVOlCk_TRCDye4tddessZaQ2@mail.gmail.com>
	<42A29E40413F421E928E5DAEF8D0BB76@heilveil5e3fdd>
	<D639A0A087CC492DB85382820F4999CF@home.robinson.org>
Message-ID: <3D33E19C-EA3B-4E05-A6EA-78D51294762B@aol.com>

Google Belan Rodriguez. Prob NSFW

--
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:34 PM, "Jim Robinson" <bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net>  
wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric Ducdude
>
>> http://superbikeplanet.com/image/2010/motogp/mugello/victor/_J1C4013.htm
>>
>> I bet Ducdude or Jim Robinson would like to be in that position.
>>
>
> Well I sure would but unless she has goats I think  Jim would just be
> board..
>
> Duc
> ______________________________________________
>
>
> Motorcycle? What motorcycle?
> What a leg! ;-)
>
> Jim Robinson
> West Chester PA
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mac-pac-l mailing list
> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l

From tpcutter at aol.com  Mon Jun 14 03:21:12 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:21:12 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Belen Rodriguez -NSFW
Message-ID: <CD9709D9-1FEF-4E4B-91B1-02EA3E066DC4@aol.com>

http://www.celebs101.com/image-170076--2717--Belen+Rodriguez+Picture+Gallery.html


--
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


From mrmevans at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 03:37:59 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:37:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rev'it beat us
In-Reply-To: <62653C03648349B887A37E6F21E181D3@home.robinson.org>
References: <SNT107-W284FB5A727158D0463F96BCADB0@phx.gbl>
	<62653C03648349B887A37E6F21E181D3@home.robinson.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikDJJxCSjbZYHgdLw0k_YXUCvqOCE09GMKNrbrh@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Jim Robinson <bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alain Kaldewaay
>
> Riders,
>
> WTF Rev'it beat us to the game.
>
> http://www.revit.eu/en/#/translab/video/trailertranslab/
>
> DAK
> ----------------------------------
>
> Wow Rev'it even supplies the women? Hmmm
> I'll take 2 to go please. :-)
> Bastards!
>
> Jim Robinson
> West Chester PA
>

I cannot get to it - internal server error from Revit site.

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From bmwdick at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 16:39:20 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:39:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Amazing stuff kids do....
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikkHMz6AYiCl7ndmNyp-FiaLDG_cA_oiNMMFI1H@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilL-pLju6T-2GM9VTXVBvRvj2Mny2xjLhMALwak@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTikkHMz6AYiCl7ndmNyp-FiaLDG_cA_oiNMMFI1H@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilaqPM5zBCIA0L1ReClSlHDWk0xB22_ee1KxZzr@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Michael Evans <mrmevans at gmail.com> wrote:

> Damn - and I never got photos of my old garage door after my sons, a
> few years back now, discovered the following:
>

>

Retributional genetics at work.

Dick

-- 
BMW-Dick
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I?m
not sure about the universe.?    Albert Einstein.

From bmwdick at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 01:32:25 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:32:25 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] K75 For Sale
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikLGZnv4KD9spZZYs-pmdRBgI7u_AaMO99yR2Pe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1CF37598DB1C4C7C9A913FDB9F1E7607@Bert>
	<AANLkTikLGZnv4KD9spZZYs-pmdRBgI7u_AaMO99yR2Pe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin658N66_3zJhusQEC-Wh9QiUG3auH5Qq8ycCCB@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Michael Evans <mrmevans at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd consider that bike but I don't want people confusing me for Riepe
> wjen they see me riding down the road.
>
Don't worry, Mike, Riepe's bike has a custom seat that could hold two
of you....perish the thought.

BMW-Dick
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I?m
not sure about the universe.?    Albert Einstein.

From gary5410 at aol.com  Mon Jun 14 05:50:58 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:50:58 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen progess....
In-Reply-To: <8CCD992A9479CBE-1790-33757@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCD992A9479CBE-1790-33757@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD99CB2B59BF0-1790-33B02@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com>


Kitchen wiring almost done.......dishwasher running, range hood 
running, outlets working........well, most of them.?
Gas lines in place...waiting for my range, paid for on March 3rd, 
special order..supposed to be here any day now. Once the range is in 
the granite people will come to measure.?
Had our 1st set of ribs in the kitchen....... :-) .......but didn't 
cook them there.?
Built the window seat today.......?
?
http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#900323700_dLCik?
?
I did get out on the bike on Saturday....rode up to Hermy's and got my 
knobbies taken off and my streeties  put on...not much of a ride  :-(?

  

From gary5410 at aol.com  Mon Jun 14 04:39:08 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:39:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen progess....
Message-ID: <8CCD992A9479CBE-1790-33757@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com>

Kitchen wiring almost done.......dishwasher running, range hood 
running, outlets working........well, most of them.
Gas lines in place...waiting for my range, paid for on March 3rd, 
special order..supposed to be here any day now. Once the range is in 
the granite people will come to measure.
Had our 1st set of ribs in the kitchen....... :-) .......but didn't 
cook them there.
Built the window seat today.......

http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#900323700_dLCik

I did get out on the bike on Saturday....rode up to Hermy's and got my 
knobbies taken off and my streeties  put on...not much of a ride  :-(

From tpcutter at aol.com  Mon Jun 14 08:59:50 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 04:59:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Hip Replacement results
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikYRGSPyq29CewEKid7Lf5NDSEn0s0Jd8UCnhVI@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinOkz0FytAbjmLf7ze8P2sFYyu-PsLFsVWv-_rI@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikYRGSPyq29CewEKid7Lf5NDSEn0s0Jd8UCnhVI@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCD9B714757D67-1BD4-2D99E@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com>


<<Keep the knees in even better shape.  Everyone I know of that has 
hada knee(s) done has said "If I knew how much it was going to 
hurtafterward, I would not have had it done."  This was with 
tremendouspain before.  Eventually it is "much better" but getting 
there is abitch/bastard.>>

Both Paula and I have had our knees "done." Both recoveries were fast 
and the pain relief was tremendous.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From progress49 at comcast.net  Mon Jun 14 09:44:26 2010
From: progress49 at comcast.net (Panagiotis)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 05:44:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Pants and armor for sale
Message-ID: <C83B723A.23CB0%progress49@comcast.net>

Hello all,

I'm selling some gear. 10% off prices for Pac and I'll deliver within 25
miles.

Thanks,

Peter X

Selling two pairs of pant: Rev'it Rotor 38x30 with liner. Worn no more than
3 times, as new. $229 plus shipping.

Darien pants custom short 36x30 new knee armor, excellent condition, no
belt, $185 plus shipping.

Forcefield armor, size large, worn 1/2 dozen times or less, $110 plus
shipping.

Sheepskin 36x20  $40 plus shipping

See at:

http://s656.photobucket.com/albums/uu282/progress49/



From wayne at 2zars.com  Mon Jun 14 10:17:57 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 06:17:57 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen progess....
In-Reply-To: <8CCD992A9479CBE-1790-33757@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCD992A9479CBE-1790-33757@webmail-m090.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <n90c165mn3kmaq82rujv8gd611apmokf16@4ax.com>



>Kitchen wiring almost done.......dishwasher running, range hood 
>running, outlets working........well, most of them.
>Gas lines in place...waiting for my range, paid for on March 3rd, 
>special order..supposed to be here any day now. Once the range is in 
>the granite people will come to measure.
>Had our 1st set of ribs in the kitchen....... :-) .......but didn't 
>cook them there.
>Built the window seat today.......
>
>http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#900323700_dLCik

Lookin' really good!  Hopefully, your range will arrive soon.

>
>I did get out on the bike on Saturday....rode up to Hermy's and got my 
>knobbies taken off and my streeties  put on...not much of a ride  :-(

I played hookie Friday and rode to Elk Neck State Park and Susquehanna
State Park.  About 220 miles total.  Not much, but it sure beat going
to work.  


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From wayne at 2zars.com  Mon Jun 14 10:19:23 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 06:19:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Hip Replacement results
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinOkz0FytAbjmLf7ze8P2sFYyu-PsLFsVWv-_rI@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinOkz0FytAbjmLf7ze8P2sFYyu-PsLFsVWv-_rI@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fg0c161oeaghjook1gd22rpc6lg9qcmd8q@4ax.com>



>Only 37 days to change from bone to titanium and cobalt steel.

That's pretty amazing, glad to hear things worked out well!  


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From piechota at argolis.org  Mon Jun 14 12:32:17 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 08:32:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nicky Hayden and the Race Ducati at Mugello
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik3O1KU1JGdkA3AnVOlCk_TRCDye4tddessZaQ2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik3O1KU1JGdkA3AnVOlCk_TRCDye4tddessZaQ2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C162151.9030204@argolis.org>

Brian Curry wrote:
> http://superbikeplanet.com/image/2010/motogp/mugello/victor/_J1C4013.htm
> 
> I bet Ducdude or Jim Robinson would like to be in that position.
> 

Wearing heels?

From misevich at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 13:11:29 2010
From: misevich at gmail.com (Dave Misevich)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:11:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikAFb7otBeW7rvrT8vgLI5tT4svncSeqKpogzX8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikAFb7otBeW7rvrT8vgLI5tT4svncSeqKpogzX8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimgtdnT7mjdO7j9_BTpOGGPmkZmh_AEvIocV41x@mail.gmail.com>

What a weekend!

Friday night class was ok, our instructors were personable and got us
through the videos and booklet making it as interesting as possible.
We covered a lot of ground and learned a lot. Much refresher stuff for
me, mostly all new for Jamie.

Saturday morning was muggy as we gathered at the course at 7:15am. Two
hours later we had gone through quite a few drills that brought the
group from level 0 to a point where they could actually ride the bikes
around a bit. I was impressed with the incremental steps taken that
seemed to work for everybody.

Jamie and I were on Suzuki GZ 250's that made up the bulk of the
bikes. Jamie liked it fine, I was a bit cramped and very unused to the
riding position.

We had a three hour break while the "B" class took their turn, so we
ran home and I mowed the lawn.

The afternoon session was muggy and hotter, I think my helmet gained 5
lbs during the session. I was able to snag one of the two Yamaha
XT-225's dual sports they had, and it fit much better.

We got further along, doing some big ovals and shifting to second gear
etc. Most riders were doing fine, but two ladies taking the class
seemed to struggle a bit. One in particular seemed unstable and was
causing a traffic jam on the course. At one point she dumped her bike
when she grabbed a handful of front brake in a turn. Luckily unhurt,
but embarrassed.

Everybody was telling me how great Jamie was doing, and after the
session she told me "I LIKE riding motorcycles". Uh oh. ;)  I told her
I was glad she was having fun, that it doesn't speak to everybody.

Sunday morning we were the late class, starting at 9:30am, so we had
time to gear up at home and rode my bike to class. The temperature was
much cooler, and the forecast which was previously "intermittent
thunderstorms" had changed to "mostly cloudy".

The one lady that was really struggling the day before showed up, but
decided to back out and take the class at a later date. Since they
rode together, her friend backed out too, so we were down to 10
riders.

We started into more advanced exercises and had a good time. Jamie was
doing great, struggled a bit with the figure 8 in the box. I bit my
tongue, not shouting "Turn your head!" and "Speed up a little!". I
figured she'd get it or not with the instructors help.

The second session Sunday was a couple more exercises and then
evaluations. Everybody passed! Jamie got nicked a couple of points in
the box for putting her feet down, and once in a sweeping turn for
going a little too slow. Not bad, not bad at all. :)

I'm glad we did it, and Jamie is too. Now we have to check with our
Secretary of State (DMV in other states I think), to see what her next
step is. How does it work in PA, can a learner get a permit and ride
with an adult, or do they have to wait until they get their real
license?

Thanks,

--
Dave Misevich
Dexter, MI
'85 K100RT
'98 R1100RT

From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 13:35:01 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:35:01 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimgtdnT7mjdO7j9_BTpOGGPmkZmh_AEvIocV41x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikAFb7otBeW7rvrT8vgLI5tT4svncSeqKpogzX8@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimgtdnT7mjdO7j9_BTpOGGPmkZmh_AEvIocV41x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimIWiiNNL4uagUueMq_GuJIfaOvKJqJI2Ivi8oo@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Dave Misevich <misevich at gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
> I'm glad we did it, and Jamie is too. Now we have to check with our
> Secretary of State (DMV in other states I think), to see what her next
> step is. How does it work in PA, can a learner get a permit and ride
> with an adult, or do they have to wait until they get their real
> license?


What a great father daughter activity...and she enjoyed it too!

Re: the permit/license ?

In order to take the BRC course in PA, you normally have to present a
learners permit-which implies you passed a written test with PennDot.
Once you've completed the BRC course(written and riding portion), you
will take a riding test at the end of the second section.  If you pass
this test, one of the instructors will stamp your learner's permit
acknowledging that its a temporary license.  Penn Dot will then
forward you in the mail, a paper card to accompany your license that
states you're a licensed rider in PA.  When you renew your drivers's
license, the paper card will go away and the M/C endorsement will
appear on your license.

HTH

edde


-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From ephoet at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 14:18:13 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:18:13 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] --OT....how to miter?
In-Reply-To: <4C157948.9000605@ptd.net>
References: <934403.2399.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<4C157948.9000605@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiljQIiUpo2_ESMq3ViTKJXsAkRspq8G06kIz6hL@mail.gmail.com>

> Quinn Tex wrote:
>> Does anyone know how to miter and/or how to TEACH someone how to miter? ?I'm trying to finish up a project and between my compound miter saw and the miter box, I just cannot seem to wrap my mind around how to do it.

>> Georgina
______________________________________________

> Call me...610-966-3500.....either that or there should be a You Tube
> video somewhere am sure.
>
> Chris Jaccarino
> _______________________________________________

Here's your video:

http://www.viewdo.com/now_viewing.php?id=282




Oh.......... you wanted the other kind of mitre!

back to the drawing board.............

Erik H

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Mon Jun 14 14:20:52 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:20:52 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimgtdnT7mjdO7j9_BTpOGGPmkZmh_AEvIocV41x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikAFb7otBeW7rvrT8vgLI5tT4svncSeqKpogzX8@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimgtdnT7mjdO7j9_BTpOGGPmkZmh_AEvIocV41x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60462.12.181.211.35.1276525252.squirrel@12.181.211.35>

> What a weekend!
>

 Snip...

>
> Everybody was telling me how great Jamie was doing, and after the
> session she told me "I LIKE riding motorcycles". Uh oh. ;)


Glad everyone had a good time.  I trust it was a learning experience for
you too.

Ride Safe,

Joe


From earle.bare at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 14:57:00 2010
From: earle.bare at gmail.com (Earle Bare)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:57:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Left in M-P Bikeroom - Pirelli 21" Scorpion S/T Front Tire
Message-ID: <AANLkTinLnt8LHp78y3YZTnXIqhqGl9HpKRxrBrJTBDsc@mail.gmail.com>

I ordered new Metzeler Tourances from SW Moto for my 800 GS which
arrived last Thursday and they sent me a 19" front tire instead of the
21" that I ordered.  I thought I was hosed since I was leaving on a DS
weekend ride that evening but found a Pirelli 21" Scorpion S/T tire
without a name on it laying on the floor in the bikeroom.  Since this
was obviously a sign, it was promptly installed it on the GS.

I realize that not every one knows the rule that if a tire is left in
the bikeroom unnamed that it is free to a good home so I would like to
pay something for the tire - it looked fairly new.  Thanks and ping me
off-list to let me know what I owe you.

This is a good time to mention a few now obvious reminders:

1. Put your name on any tire you leave in the bikeroom if you are
saving it.  Otherwise, it's up for grabs.
2. If you ship tires directly to the bikeroom, send me an email
off-list of what you ordered and I'll check it against what arrived.
Hopefully any issues can be resolved before you arrive to change
tires.
3. Don't wait till the last minute to order tires, especially if you
are leaving on a trip and need the tires for said trip.

Although this is the first issue I've ever had from SW Moto, it serves
as a reminder that anyone can make a mistake and that it always
happens at the worst time.  BTW, SW Moto offered to send a replacement
via FedEx Next Day Air.  Thanks to the Pirelli, I told them it wasn't
necessary and to send it via FedEx ground.  They offered me the $127
Metzeler Tourance 110/80VR-19 for $85 which Ducdude scarfed up quicker
than free food at a M-P event.

Earle Bare
West Chester, PA

From motorrader at verizon.net  Mon Jun 14 15:10:59 2010
From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:10:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 90S Rally pictures
References: <AANLkTim0UCPMD4IoBGI00Uv29PggDlRFTWzREabf-P4j@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <125D28758E0642E8B0EA2CC96FCD74A6@dellfe483b726d>



> A GREAT event hosted by Mac Kirkpatrick.
> A great weather day, though warm.
> Food, friendship and general sharing of a passion seems to be the glue
> that binds.

> http://s598.photobucket.com/albums/tt69/Reopropf/R90S%20Rally%202010/
> Peter


Peter,
Thanks for capturing some moments of the day with your fine photos.  I 
believe a good time was had by all and Mac & Melanie were wonderful hosts. 
The weather held up well, but the friendships and comaraderie were something 
special.

Laura and I had a real good time sharing stories with you, Karl and other 
friends.

I know Karl Duffner really enjoyed himself, seeing all his old buddies and 
being able to sneak in some stories of past riding adventures.  I was 
honored to be there riding Karl's very unique '74 R90S.  The odometer turned 
past 361,000 miles as I returned home from the rally.

I can't wait to share some of those good riding roads with you in the near 
future.

Happy Motoring,
Todd Trumbore


From mrmevans at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 16:43:09 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:43:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Those Germans and Thier Precision
Message-ID: <AANLkTile-120FMuKlyYu1FoJ6Y12GFGTxf2YX6GZ04Py@mail.gmail.com>

Netherlands defeated Denmark in World Cup play today and did so with
an impressive 88.6% passing accuracy rate.

Enough for the top spot in terms of precision?

Nein.

Germany holds the #1 spot for pass accuracy at 91.5%

Passing along as I thought some on list would take a strange sense of
pride in that.

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From wateredg at interlog.com  Mon Jun 14 16:49:17 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:49:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Those Germans and Thier Precision
References: <AANLkTile-120FMuKlyYu1FoJ6Y12GFGTxf2YX6GZ04Py@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8E759C13C1EB47BD918A2ECEEE2DD129@9200c>

Hello Michael,

From: "Michael Evans" <mrmevans at gmail.com>

> Netherlands defeated Denmark in World Cup play today and did so with
> an impressive 88.6% passing accuracy rate.
>
> Enough for the top spot in terms of precision?
>
> Nein.
>
> Germany holds the #1 spot for pass accuracy at 91.5%
>
> Passing along as I thought some on list would take a strange sense of
> pride in that.

Could this be why BMW has final drive issues: The guys who have all the 
"accuracy" are out playing soccer? ;-)

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada


From motorrader at verizon.net  Mon Jun 14 17:56:00 2010
From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:56:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fw: R90S rally 2010
Message-ID: <D0695959FD43407B9822294BA94F6C8C@dellfe483b726d>



Just a few photos Laura snapped at the R90S rally.

 http://www.kodakgallery.com/gallery/creativeapps/slideShow/Main.jsp?token=838137941212:1942925117

From bmwbradkath at verizon.net  Mon Jun 14 18:05:38 2010
From: bmwbradkath at verizon.net (Bradley Scheirer)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:05:38 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Beginner bikes wanted
Message-ID: <EFD3B0C13E404358B058EC9A8C9F41E9@Sam>

I know two ladies looking for a beginners bike, Both are vertically 
challenged, so a lower seat height would help. 250cc and up to 600cc.  Let 
me know if you have one to get rid of or know of where to find one
Thanks
Brad 


From brian at whatever2k.com  Mon Jun 14 18:15:21 2010
From: brian at whatever2k.com (Brian Burdette)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:15:21 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Beginner bikes wanted
In-Reply-To: <EFD3B0C13E404358B058EC9A8C9F41E9@Sam>
References: <EFD3B0C13E404358B058EC9A8C9F41E9@Sam>
Message-ID: <4C1671B9.80003@whatever2k.com>

On 06/14/2010 02:05 PM, Bradley Scheirer wrote:
> I know two ladies looking for a beginners bike, Both are vertically
> challenged, so a lower seat height would help. 250cc and up to 600cc.  Let
> me know if you have one to get rid of or know of where to find one
> Thanks

Brad,

I have a 250 Ninja I've used for three different beginners now, and is currently 
my son's first ride. No, I'm not selling it. There's a pile of them available on 
craigslist or ebay.

If your beginner is shorter than 5'0" it might be a bit tall, but anyone taller 
will work well. It's light, easy to manage, easy to start, and most importantly 
fast enough that they aren't worried about getting run over if they end up on a 
bigger road for a few minutes.

I'm very impressed with that little bike.

-- 
Brian Burdette -- brian at whatever2k dot com -- Pleasant Hill MO, USA

From ephoet at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 19:55:14 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:55:14 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW in Raleigh
Message-ID: <AANLkTikr21ukUixjoZN6M49GvCDApyvU0toeLzVH_Crf@mail.gmail.com>

I was visiting family in Raleigh NC this past weekend, noticed a nice
shiny new BMW hiding on the outer Beltline just as we merged from NC
64 coming in from Rocky Mount.
It was hiding along side the roadway, tucked in by an over-hanging tree branch.

Jennifer took note of the radar gun in the rider's hands......  hmmmmmmmmmmmm

The rider, er officer,  then spotted his prey and leapt upon his black
and white steed, flagging down the miscreant driver in an instant.
(and he was very fast).

No, not me.  Some other poor bastard won a high performance award...
Beltline is 60 MPH, not 70 like NC 64.....

Apparently Raleigh has a 3 year no bid lease on several  BMW R1200
RT-P police bikes.

See
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7459713
http://tinyurl.com/27cx474

the local H-D dealers are apparently not happy.....

Erik Hoet
back in PA land

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 20:09:31 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:09:31 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speaking of moto LEO's
Message-ID: <AANLkTil7KlQvBZ6l58E-fe16fmHYdeNvQYLNurumglkg@mail.gmail.com>

It appears that it has warmed enough that the Upper Uwchlan Police are
out on their moto's.

I spotted a moto-LEO with ANOTHER motorcyclist pulled over on the
Northbound side of Rt 100 just below Rt 401. Apparently there is no
respect for fellow motorcyclists at least of some miscreant level.

A few minutes later I spotted him heading South on Rt 100 below
Fellowship Rd, (below the Lexus dealer).  That is why I figure Upper
Uwchlan.

He was NOT on a BMW.  He was on a HD of some variant with a clear
windshield and the patriotic red and blue lights to get your attention
if you are wrong doing.

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From bmwdick at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 20:44:19 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:44:19 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speaking of moto LEO's
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil7KlQvBZ6l58E-fe16fmHYdeNvQYLNurumglkg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil7KlQvBZ6l58E-fe16fmHYdeNvQYLNurumglkg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim2rcvIVWM5lVkqgt0hawL4vDumF3WHs19uVNab@mail.gmail.com>

So how much did he nail you for?

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> It appears that it has warmed enough that the Upper Uwchlan Police are
> out on their moto's.
>

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 20:54:06 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:54:06 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speaking of moto LEO's
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim2rcvIVWM5lVkqgt0hawL4vDumF3WHs19uVNab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil7KlQvBZ6l58E-fe16fmHYdeNvQYLNurumglkg@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim2rcvIVWM5lVkqgt0hawL4vDumF3WHs19uVNab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikLSlh6t8rfanEfWqGc8G-B3dqJLYTK1DFoe0IP@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/14/10, Dick <bmwdick at gmail.com> wrote:
> So how much did he nail you for?
>
>
>  On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > It appears that it has warmed enough that the Upper Uwchlan Police are
>  > out on their moto's.

Not me.  The perp was a cell phone at the time.  So, it was not me.  I
was just the "passing observer".

They WERE speed checking on Rt100 NB going up the hill.  Monitor
chained to a sign post.  I did not lock up the brakes over that
either.

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Brian Curry          |      Is Getting Old, Getting Old?
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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 21:04:05 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:04:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] I wonder if US fireworks sales will be up this year?
Message-ID: <AANLkTilqx1YXyiDN_NoOPplz-RSXHZM71QGc_tY_NX9-@mail.gmail.com>

if this idea gets around:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6573RH20100608
(Some of the sidebar photo's might raise work eyebrows.)

"A Chinese farmer has declared war on property developers who want his
land, building a cannon out of a wheelbarrow and pipes and firing
rockets at would-be eviction teams, state media said on Tuesday.

Yang Youde, who lives on the outskirts of bustling Wuhan city, in
central Hubei province, says he has fended off two eviction attempts
with his improvised weapon, which uses ammunition made from locally
sold fireworks."

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Chester Springs PA   |      http://www.nsevideos.com

From rcavalie at verizon.net  Mon Jun 14 21:30:23 2010
From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:30:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Those Germans and Thier Precision
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTile-120FMuKlyYu1FoJ6Y12GFGTxf2YX6GZ04Py@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTile-120FMuKlyYu1FoJ6Y12GFGTxf2YX6GZ04Py@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000f01cb0c08$cc55fc50$6501f4f0$@net>

Saturday night I was in a Lisbon bar with several tables of rowdy Brits who
were trashing the American soccer team. They were looking forward to
creaming us in the World Cup game that night. They kept it up and after
England scored the first goal of the game they started complaining about how
America wasn't even a worthy opponent and why did they get stuck playing us?
But then when the U.S. scored the tying goal in what can only be described
as a gift from the English goalie, the bar became quiet. The Brits did not
take it well. At first, they were in denial. Then the TV producers kept
replaying the video of the ball trickling into the goal. Each replay was
like an accident, so terrible, they had to watch. England's best could only
tie the Americans. At first I wanted to rub it in, but then I could see that
it meant so much more to them than me - they were genuinely crushed! I said
nothing due in equal parts to sympathy and self preservation - in their
intoxicated and miserable condition, they would've lynched me!  I really
feel sorry for that English goalkeeper. This will haunt him for the rest of
his life.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com
[mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com] On Behalf Of
Michael Evans
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:43 PM
To: mac-pac-l at jtan.com
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Those Germans and Thier Precision

Netherlands defeated Denmark in World Cup play today and did so with
an impressive 88.6% passing accuracy rate.

Enough for the top spot in terms of precision?

Nein.

Germany holds the #1 spot for pass accuracy at 91.5%

Passing along as I thought some on list would take a strange sense of
pride in that.

snip



From 321design at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 10:19:26 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob H)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:19:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speaking of moto LEO's
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikLSlh6t8rfanEfWqGc8G-B3dqJLYTK1DFoe0IP@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil7KlQvBZ6l58E-fe16fmHYdeNvQYLNurumglkg@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTim2rcvIVWM5lVkqgt0hawL4vDumF3WHs19uVNab@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTikLSlh6t8rfanEfWqGc8G-B3dqJLYTK1DFoe0IP@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <-1442113222680146269@unknownmsgid>

On Jun 14, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 6/14/10, Dick <bmwdick at gmail.com> wrote:
>> So how much did he nail you for?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> It appears that it has warmed enough that the Upper Uwchlan Police
>>> are
>>> out on their moto's.
>
> Not me.  The perp was a cell phone at the time.  So, it was not me.  I
> was just the "passing observer".
>
> They WERE speed checking on Rt100 NB going up the hill.

Whoa, that big hill before 401? I always like to cook up that hill
into the nice sweepers. Guess I 'll avoid that from now on.

>          Rob; sent from my iPhone

From 321design at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 10:28:31 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob H)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:28:31 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What ever happened to LEO warning?
Message-ID: <-2074227830135632387@unknownmsgid>

What ever happened to people flashing their lights to warn of a speed
trap? Seems like we always would see it. I imagine you could get a
ticket for doing it, although unlikely you would get caught. I still
flash my high beems I'd I see one. I don't think most people would
know why you are doing it.

Rob Haut; sent from my iPhone

From mmehalik at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 22:47:34 2010
From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:47:34 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What ever happened to LEO warning?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin_msFTwCLUzFhR2MzEX0-GU3uLbtHKwFbvHj-G@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-2074227830135632387@unknownmsgid>
	<AANLkTin_msFTwCLUzFhR2MzEX0-GU3uLbtHKwFbvHj-G@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimmHHn8ZxZgDxR9xMl97DAiKB0XXS6vS8aUykei@mail.gmail.com>

It became a finable offense under pa law :-(.

On Jun 14, 2010 6:28 PM, "Rob H" <321design at gmail.com> wrote:

What ever happened to people flashing their lights to warn of a speed
trap? Seems like we always would see it. I imagine you could get a
ticket for doing it, although unlikely you would get caught. I still
flash my high beems I'd I see one. I don't think most people would
know why you are doing it.

Rob Haut; sent from my iPhone
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From Ducdude at verizon.net  Mon Jun 14 22:49:26 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:49:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Beginner bikes wanted
References: <EFD3B0C13E404358B058EC9A8C9F41E9@Sam>
Message-ID: <D7F873193A9846EB86D7A0C832C362E7@heilveil5e3fdd>

+1  on the Ninja 250  Phyllis has one and we love it..

Duc
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bradley Scheirer" <bmwbradkath at verizon.net>
To: "Mac-Pac" <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
Cc: "Milan Rados" <mr.rados at yahoo.com>; "Mac" <drbeemer at snip.net>
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:05 PM
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Beginner bikes wanted


>I know two ladies looking for a beginners bike, Both are vertically
> challenged, so a lower seat height would help. 250cc and up to 600cc.  Let
> me know if you have one to get rid of or know of where to find one
> Thanks
> Brad
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mac-pac-l mailing list
> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
> 


From rsorens at comcast.net  Mon Jun 14 23:33:10 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:33:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Rev'it beat us
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikDJJxCSjbZYHgdLw0k_YXUCvqOCE09GMKNrbrh@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6769DB81A0B540CD9DA486F91F451A76@Tekki>

>>...Wow Rev'it even supplies the women? Hmmm I'll take 2 to go please. :-) 
>> Bastards!
>>
>> Jim Robinson
>> West Chester PA
>>
>
>I cannot get to it ....

WOW, Mike, I thought you stopped there for a second and I was a little
worried



Rick



From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 23:48:31 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:48:31 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speaking of moto LEO's
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On 6/15/10, Rob H <321design at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 14, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Whoa, that big hill before 401? I always like to cook up that hill
>  into the nice sweepers. Guess I 'll avoid that from now on.

Yes.  This was "survey" installation.  See how fast folks go up the
hill.  NOT enforcement.  That said, the West Vincent cops like to sit
on the dirt side of Blackhorse Rd and time people using marks on the
roads.

Over 30 years ago now, I was cooking up the hill.  It was still
concrete then.  I used "all the road" both lanes and coming out of the
apex low sided when I hit the truck engine oil strip.

Dropped onto one head and two tires sliding up the hill.  Wondering if
I was going to slide in front of BOTH cars coming down the hill or
between them.

Being young DUMB and not knowing any better I just sat on it sliding.

Then it hooked up.  I was back on two wheels wobbled a bit, and I
continued on up Rt 100 to work.  When I stopped at the light at 23 I
felt under the head for oil.  There was none. ;);)

When I got to work I saw that I had a nice flat worn in the head.

I now know I was INCREDIBLY lucky that I did not high side after low
siding. :(:(  I think it came from turning the front wheel a bit to
the left so that when it hooked up, it came up in a turn and was able
to regyroscopically stablize.

Tom might know better than I whether it was that or shear luck.


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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 23:55:55 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:55:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What ever happened to LEO warning?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimmHHn8ZxZgDxR9xMl97DAiKB0XXS6vS8aUykei@mail.gmail.com>
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On 6/14/10, Mark Mehalik <mmehalik at gmail.com> wrote:
> It became a finable offense under pa law :-(.

I flash people for ANYTHING that might cause someone to grenade the
brakes and be a  hazard to those approaching it.

ANYTHING.  It is a public safety thing.

I DO NOT discriminate.

Anything that could surprise someone traveling the other way gets flashed for.

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From jasiii at earthlink.net  Tue Jun 15 00:00:41 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:00:41 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] I wonder if US fireworks sales will be up this year?
Message-ID: <5042066.1276560041425.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>Subject: [MAC-PAC] I wonder if US fireworks sales will be up this year?
>
>if this idea gets around:
>
>http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6573RH20100608
>(Some of the sidebar photo's might raise work eyebrows.)
>
>"A Chinese farmer has declared war on property developers who want his
>land, building a cannon out of a wheelbarrow and pipes and firing
>rockets at would-be eviction teams, state media said on Tuesday.
>
>Yang Youde, who lives on the outskirts of bustling Wuhan city, in
>central Hubei province, says he has fended off two eviction attempts
>with his improvised weapon, which uses ammunition made from locally
>sold fireworks."
>
No link to contribution site to help with his ammo costs.. 

would like to help this guy out

Jim

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 00:19:19 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:19:19 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW in Raleigh
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikr21ukUixjoZN6M49GvCDApyvU0toeLzVH_Crf@mail.gmail.com>
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> Apparently Raleigh has a 3 year no bid lease on several ?BMW R1200
> RT-P police bikes.
>
> See
> http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7459713
> http://tinyurl.com/27cx474
>
> the local H-D dealers are apparently not happy.....


Greensboro has the same deal. Harleys gone, Beamers on.

Dano

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Tue Jun 15 00:21:37 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:21:37 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What ever happened to LEO warning?
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Mark Mehalik wrote:
> It became a finable offense under pa law :-(.
>
> On Jun 14, 2010 6:28 PM, "Rob H" <321design at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What ever happened to people flashing their lights to warn of a speed
> trap? Seems like we always would see it. I imagine you could get a
> ticket for doing it, although unlikely you would get caught. I still
> flash my high beems I'd I see one. I don't think most people would
> know why you are doing it.
>   
http://www.courts.state.pa.us/opposting/supreme/out/j-255-98mo.pdf

Talks about how the police ticketed a person for flashing their high beams during the day. They were obviously warning on coming drives of a speed trap. The ticket got thrown out after taking it to the State Supreme Court. They said the law was missapplied.

But there was a desenting opinion, here it is and one of the Judges was not there so this case could have gone the other way.

http://www.courts.state.pa.us/oppost...j-255-98do.pdf <http://www.courts.state.pa.us/opposting/supreme/out/j-255-98do.pdf>

This is interesting, the judge felt the person should have been cited for obstructing governmental operations.

Gee judge, how can you prove I was actually warning other people?

Now, if I was Cutter, I would say "flash your lights and get your teeth kicked in".

Chris Jaccarino




From quinntex2000 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 15 00:25:14 2010
From: quinntex2000 at yahoo.com (Quinn Tex)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:25:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] --OT......the miter mystery has been solved...
In-Reply-To: <-2074227830135632387@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <160652.96726.qm@web52106.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Thanks Jim Fox!!  That whole cut right then left works WONDERS!!!!


Amazing......

Georgina


      

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 00:35:31 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:35:31 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] --OT......the miter mystery has been solved...
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On 6/14/10, Quinn Tex <quinntex2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks Jim Fox!!  That whole cut right then left works WONDERS!!!!
>
>  Amazing......

GREAT.  Between mechanicing and wood butchery you are moving right up
the "real world" totem pole.

One caution.  In wood butchery you can cutcher fingers off quickly and
that WILL ruin your day.  Keep all yer digits.

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From quinntex2000 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 15 00:41:40 2010
From: quinntex2000 at yahoo.com (Quinn Tex)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:41:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] --OT......the miter mystery has been solved...
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> 
> GREAT.? Between mechanicing and wood butchery you are
> moving right up
> the "real world" totem pole.
> 
> One caution.? In wood butchery you can cutcher fingers
> off quickly and
> that WILL ruin your day.? Keep all yer digits.
> 
> -- 

Oh yeah....when I was growing up I worked in a hospital and I recall one winter the head of HR lost a finger because he tried to clear his snow blower while it was ON!!  

He could never flip the bird at anyone since he lost most of it under there......that's not something easily forgotten!

Georgina


      

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 00:44:33 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:44:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW in Raleigh
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On 6/14/10, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Apparently Raleigh has a 3 year no bid lease on several  BMW R1200
>  > RT-P police bikes.
>  >
>  > See
>  > http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7459713
>  > http://tinyurl.com/27cx474
>  >
>  > the local H-D dealers are apparently not happy.....
>
> Greensboro has the same deal. Harleys gone, Beamers on.

Suspicion.  Including ABS makes it tougher.  I think I have heard
there are some handling criteria they can throw in that forces it to
BMW.

Same as DOTs can force the contract to their truck of choice by a
feature requirement that ONLY that manufacturer provides.

All done with words.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 00:52:15 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:52:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] --OT......the miter mystery has been solved...
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On 6/14/10, Quinn Tex <quinntex2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Oh yeah....when I was growing up I worked in a hospital and I recall one winter the head of HR lost a finger because he tried to clear his snow blower while it was ON!!

Guy I worked with at PECO stuffed his hand into the snow blowre outlet
that had a "helper" blower that the other one he had worked on did not
have.

He had bloody finger tips.

They sewed his fingers to his stomach for a while to regenerate  the
finger tip skin.  The stomach skin had hairs.

He had to shave his finger tips after that when the hand was untached
from from the stomach.

Power equipment can go wrong lots of ways.


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From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 00:59:57 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:59:57 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW in Raleigh
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>> Greensboro has the same deal. Harleys gone, Beamers on.
>
> Suspicion. ?Including ABS makes it tougher. ?I think I have heard
> there are some handling criteria they can throw in that forces it to
> BMW.
>
> Same as DOTs can force the contract to their truck of choice by a
> feature requirement that ONLY that manufacturer provides.
>
> All done with words.

The fact that H-D increased their engine size, (without increasing the
intake valve size) turned the engine into big waste heat producer
without adding much horsepower.

Not cumfy for all day duty in the sunny South.

Dano

From rsorens at comcast.net  Tue Jun 15 01:11:42 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:11:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What ever happened to LEO warning?
In-Reply-To: <-2074227830135632387@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <31BEB5C7825B4567B36FBF6079508B2C@Tekki>

>What ever happened to people flashing their lights to warn of a speed trap?
Seems like we always would see it. 
Used to see it more often than now, but I still see it sometimes.

>I imagine you could get a ticket for doing it, although unlikely you would
get caught. 
I think I remember hearing about a supreme court ruling that this was 'free
speech'

>I still flash my high beams I'd I see one. 
I do too.



Rick


From rogers.george at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 01:24:09 2010
From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:24:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Beginner bikes wanted
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My wife wants to exchange her Honda Shadow for a riding mower. The
mower she wants is $1700 new. Nice low seat, 600cc. Carb is out of
adjustment (I just did a rebuild, so it's clean) so it starts fine but
doesn't run well. New battery. Garage kept, low miles, 1994, I
believe.

Best wishes,
Rogers George
http://writing-rag.com
http://rogersgeorge.com
http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com



On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Bradley Scheirer
<bmwbradkath at verizon.net> wrote:
> I know two ladies looking for a beginners bike, Both are vertically
> challenged, so a lower seat height would help. 250cc and up to 600cc. ?Let
> me know if you have one to get rid of or know of where to find one
> Thanks
> Brad
>
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From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Tue Jun 15 02:28:09 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 22:28:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] --OT......the miter mystery has been solved...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilBHvcGfVBDbAJl9ieqLa09jLWAQuW25nxLmSsa@mail.gmail.com>
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> On 6/14/10, Quinn Tex <quinntex2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Oh yeah....when I was growing up I worked in a hospital and I recall
> > one winter the head of HR lost a finger because he tried to clear
> > his snow blower while it was ON!!
> 
> Guy I worked with at PECO stuffed his hand into the snow blowre outlet
> that had a "helper" blower that the other one he had worked on did not
> have.
> 
> He had bloody finger tips.
> 
> They sewed his fingers to his stomach for a while to regenerate  the
> finger tip skin.  The stomach skin had hairs.
> 
> He had to shave his finger tips after that when the hand was untached
> from from the stomach.
> 
> Power equipment can go wrong lots of ways.

+1 for sno-blower digit removal.  I had an uncle that thought the 
blade were stopped when the machine was in neutral.  He lost two.

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From mrmevans at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 02:34:57 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (mrmevans at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 02:34:57 +0000
Subject: [MAC-PAC] --OT......the miter mystery has been solved...
Message-ID: <832674862-1276569299-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1778566272-@bda788.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Getting back to woodworking...how many of you had a shop teacher who was a digit or two shy?

And Quinn...the next step is to try back cutting for an even tighter corner fit.

Michael Evans

Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA (Sent via Blackberry)

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 02:53:26 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 22:53:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] --OT......the miter mystery has been solved...
In-Reply-To: <832674862-1276569299-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1778566272-@bda788.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
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On 6/14/10, mrmevans at gmail.com <mrmevans at gmail.com> wrote:
> Getting back to woodworking...how many of you had a shop teacher who was a digit or two shy?

Shop teacher was OK.

The science teacher that was doing a home project in the wood shop
with the table saw, he had the digit it was just "shorter" afterwards.

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From piechota at argolis.org  Tue Jun 15 03:49:52 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 23:49:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Left in M-P Bikeroom - Pirelli 21" Scorpion S/T Front
 Tire
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinLnt8LHp78y3YZTnXIqhqGl9HpKRxrBrJTBDsc@mail.gmail.com>
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Speaking of the tire room, I want to thank Earle again for having it 
available for people.  And Ken Bruce for letting me in Saturday.  It 
saved me a ton of hassle.

Earle Bare wrote:
> 3. Don't wait till the last minute to order tires, especially if you
> are leaving on a trip and need the tires for said trip.

This is true.  I had a set of tires in my garage since 'I'd need them at 
some point', so I didn't have to wait to get the back to running order.

For anyone that cares: I've had a few sets of Continental RoadAttaks on 
the bike.  7000 miles on the first set.  The next set has 5000 miles on 
them but are probably good for another couple thousand (those are in my 
garage, as 'emergency spares').  The front I just took off had 10,000 
miles (350 of those miles over 3 track days).  It still had tread on it, 
but only 1/32" in the centre.  Two rear tires over that 10,000, but both 
were removed a little before they absolutely had to be.

This time I went with Michelin Pilot Road 2CTs to try something 
different.  The rear was a lot easier to mount than the Conti, so as 
long as they hold up and feel good I'd probably try them again.

From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun 15 11:10:50 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 07:10:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What ever happened to LEO warning?
In-Reply-To: <-2074227830135632387@unknownmsgid>
References: <-2074227830135632387@unknownmsgid>
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<<What ever happened to people flashing their lights to warn of a 
speedtrap? Seems like we always would see it. I imagine you could get 
aticket for doing it, although unlikely you would get caught. I 
stillflash my high beems I'd I see one. I don't think most people 
wouldknow why you are doing it.>>

"Interfering with the duties of an officer" is what they write  on the 
ticket.  DAMHIKIJK.

This is the "me, me, me" generation. Giving a warning would mean 
thinking about somebody else. How quaint!


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??


From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun 15 11:39:25 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 07:39:25 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What ever happened to LEO warning?
In-Reply-To: <4C16C791.60302@ptd.net>
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<<http://www.courts.state.pa.us/opposting/supreme/out/j-255-98mo.pdfTalks
  about how the police ticketed a person for flashing their high beams 
during the day. They were obviously warning on coming drives of a speed 
trap. The ticket got thrown out after taking it to the State Supreme 
Court. They said the law was missapplied.But there was a desenting 
opinion, here it is and one of the Judges was not there so this case 
could have gone the other 
way.http://www.courts.state.pa.us/oppost...j-255-98do.pdf 
<http://www.courts.state.pa.us/opposting/supreme/out/j-255-98do.pdf>This 
is interesting, the judge felt the person should have been cited for 
obstructing governmental operations.Gee judge, how can you prove I was 
actually warning other people?Now, if I was Cutter, I would say "flash 
your lights and get your teeth kicked in".Chris Jaccarino >>

Wow. Now you know what i am thinking?

Actually I was thinking "Why engage in a legal debate with somebody who 
can't spell "dissenting?"

Most of my social time is spent in the company of police officers of 
one stripe or another. Yesterday I pitted with two NYPD detectives  and 
a NJ State Police Sargeant, all Ducati riders at NJMP for their annual 
Desmo Day Track Event. That is just coincidence, maybe because a lot of 
them ride track days and can get weekdays off work.

I've learned that when I engage the human side of a police officer, I 
get the best result. I still get tickets when they are under orders to 
write everybody who is more than 15 over, and I'm 16 over. That's just 
a given. But I try to be civil about it, pleasant during the exchange, 
and sometimes they mention "I might forget to come to court on that 
date."

They are NOTHING like you characterize them. They're just working guys 
who do what they are commanded to so, like most everybody else. They 
are taught the law, and instructed to enforce it. Every one of them has 
a special place in their heart for wise-assed, know-it-all civil 
libertarians who break the law then try to snivel their way out of it. 
Their response is to simply apply all the tools at their disposal. Some 
of those tools are fashioned of hickory, others are written on paper.

On the other hand, if two guys are working a speed enforcement 
operation, (they almost always work those in pairs, you just never see 
the second one in the unmarked car) and one is returning to the point 
of operation, and sees some dipstick vigorously flashing his lights at 
all the oncoming cars to warn them, he will pull a U-ie and have a talk 
with the guy. We actually had a discussion about this subject 
yesterday. They said that when they stop a "flasher" like that, he 
usually opens his mouth and gives them ample reason to apply some tools.

Flashing your lights at oncoming cars is; a) Illegal, regardless of the 
reason, and b) Dangerous because it makes people confused. They might 
drop their cell phone and latte, which will make them swerve into 
oncoming traffic.

I expect we will see some vigorous Googling in the next few minutes.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Tue Jun 15 11:49:18 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:49:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What ever happened to LEO warning?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinc2pHGhEFl_qBpIJERAYTJVm3TgcnzN5plfZpw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1054117808.5827021276602558176.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

>I flash people for ANYTHING that might cause someone to grenade the 
>brakes and be a hazard to those approaching it. 
> 

One night coming home I had a herd of about 15 deer milling about the road. I saw lights approaching the other direction and they appeared to be moving very quickly. I started flashing vigorously to give warning. The guy slowed down and did not hit any Bambis. Turned out he was a cop and he thanked me for the heads up. I just didn't want him to send any deer into my car! 

John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com  Tue Jun 15 12:05:26 2010
From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:05:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Road trip to NC
Message-ID: <F59EF81CD5ED4E4E888B6CA02B4C383302479950FD@HVXMSP6.us.lmco.com>

Good destination, good weather forecast, good enough!!  I rolled out last Thursday afternoon in beautiful weather and made camp at the Manor Area in Thurmont, MD that evening.  I had Boounder, a 1983 R100RS, rolling again at 6:00am Friday morning to Front Royal then on down Rte 340 for breakfast in Grottoes.  Up onto the BRP about 11:00 for a wonderful ride south.  Excellent weather (my luck with weather this year continues to hold) and no traffic.  I belive Ducdude said "Right, left, right, left, tunnel, gas, repeat".  Unsupervised scamper all the way to Fancy Gap for "the island fillup".

I got off the BRP at 276 then had some trouble with the HCMC directions so we enjoyed more mountain roads than planned but that was fine with me.  I finally arrived at High County Motorcycle Camp (fka Turkey Tom's) around 6:00pm.  Very nice place and much easier to find than all the rumors implied.  BUT, you will not just run across it.  It is well out of the way and no one is going to be just passing by and discover it.  Nice, well run place.  The roads into there (just follow the map on their website) are paved and well marked.  Easy.  I did not try the 'short cut' gravel road.  I stayed on pavement and had fine riding.  Lewis Fork Baptist Church Road and Rom Eller Road were a hoot.

18th Gathering of the Clans drew about 150 people from ~12 states and ON.  I was the rep from PA and proudly hung our Airheads Flag with the 11 others.  Actually Gator kept the FL flag up at his trailer for some reason.  Donno.  Great food and great Irish Ale and great camaraderie.  Quiet camping was just perfect for me and closer to the showers.  Yes, it was wicked humid there too but no rain on Friday.

Saturday morning I rode over to West Jefferson for Breakfast.  Sad to say that excellent bakery/coffee shop that used to be there is shuttered.  Good eggs, biscuits and gravy anyway at a local greasy spoon.  Then went south on NC194.  You know something good is gonna happen when you turn off US221 onto NC194 and ALL THE OTHER TRAFFIC stays on US221.  Wooheeeeeee nice road for beemers. "You could see your own tail light as you came around those turns."  And, of course, I had to go thru Todd, NC though I have no idea which lil bundle of shacks that was as they had no signs.  So much for a photo op.

On down to Boone (yuck, but it took less than 10 minutes to get thru that) and west on US421 into TN.  Next time I'll take NC1306 - Howard's Creek Road - to cut out Boone.  I was flailing the RS nicely up NC88 and had to pull over to rubber up as it was getting really dark.  But my luck held and I had less than 5 minutes of serious rain before I got back to West Jefferson.  A few light showers the rest of the day but not enough to even put on the lobster claws.  Excellent weather but humid, humid, humid.

I got back to HCMC early afternoon and just be'd an Airhead the rest of the day.  Another dinner that couldn't be beat and Yuengling on tap.  Helped a guy change out the Valeo on his 92 RT.  Sheesh, wada mess under THAT tank. I really appreciate my earlier bikes.  I could play tennis under Bounder's tank by comparison.  Why did they bolt the tank on?

I later heard that several places along the Blue Ridge got really hammered by storms Saturday night and we did see the lightning but we were dry and calm at High Country and I slept well again.  Up at 5:30am and had the pistons boxing at 6:30 with clearing skies.  Ah, you can imagine how crowded it was at dawn on Sunday morning on the BRP. Wooheeeeeee again.  Excellent day. No traffic, no construction, no motor homes, no deer, no nuttin but the muted sound of a lone boxer in the woods. Another island fill up and breakfast at Fancy Gap then north.  Pulled off at the James River Visitors Center to take my hat off and rest a bit.

OK, here's a quiz for you.  If you're a lone Airhead been heading north on clear roads for 2 1/2 hours doing 50 miles each hour and you're enjoying a well deserved rest in the shade, and 30 north bound Harley Davidsons pull in to also enjoy the shade for a bit what do you do?  Kick tires?  Enjoy some good conversation and the brotherhood of bikers.  Share fond memories of the "mimzy roads and the busty biker babes"?  Well Bounder says "Get the F outta Dodge, man, cuz we AIN'T GONNA live potato purgatory behind that mob by letting them pull out ahead of us".  You could about hear the clap of thunder as I snapped my hat back on and hammered the starter.  Woosh, we were gone.  Clear roads and sun shine all the way to mile 1 then down to Waynesboro for fuel.  Something is wrong with Bounder.  Over the last 4 tanks he seems to be getting 50mpg.  200 miles then 4 gallons of gas,  Nuther 200 miles and 4 gallons.  Hmmm, I'll know when I get home and calculate it over the full 1100 m!
 iles.

HOT HOT HOT once I was down off the mountain ridge but we had a pleasant ride back to Thurmont under clear skies and another nice campsite Sunday night.  Monday morning brought cool air and bone dry gear to pack. Not even the slightest dew.  Sparkers sparking at 5:45am and home by 9:30.  Again, many places got hammered by storms Sunday night (limbs down and roads still wet hours later) but we were immune.  Luck and Trust.  

todd byrum
gilbertsville, pa

From mmehalik at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 12:11:18 2010
From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:11:18 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What ever happened to LEO warning?
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I have to squarely disagree with you on both points.

A. I suspect you were expressing some tongue in cheekery, but flashing
lights can certainly be a fine idea. Esp on a bike, I've had
potentially life saving warnings from passers-by(animals, deer,
accidents on blind corners). I'm not sure on legality in general, but
that seems silly - and we all no there are no silly laws.

B. SOME cops are great if you engage their human side, some don't have
one to engage. I've had really good success by telling cops "yeah you
got me, can I plead this down" and they'll generally work with me.
I've had quite a few stick it in and break it off. I propose that
there is an age thing going on here as I've had quite a few cops and
judges ask me flat out how I afford my car (335i, I've only once been
pulled over on my bike but not ticketed). FWIW I'm always, ALWAYS
polite and honest with police when in a motor vehicle, I wouldn't be
surprised if I ended up on a training video.

-mark

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:
>
[things]
>
> --
> Tom Cutter
> Yardley, PA
> http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com
>
>
> It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
> ??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo?
>

From quinntex2000 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 15 12:41:44 2010
From: quinntex2000 at yahoo.com (Quinn Tex)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:41:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] --OT......the miter mystery has been solved...
In-Reply-To: <832674862-1276569299-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1778566272-@bda788.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <805021.71553.qm@web52102.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 10:34 PM
> Getting back to woodworking...how
> many of you had a shop teacher who was a digit or two shy?
> 
> And Quinn...the next step is to try back cutting for an
> even tighter corner fit.
> 
> Michael Evans
> 

I didn't......

Do I dare ask what back cutting is?  I'm always up to learn something new!

Georgina


      

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Tue Jun 15 12:32:03 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:32:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What ever happened to LEO warning?
In-Reply-To: <8CCDA968A284D2A-147C-A8E0@webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com>
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Tom Cutter wrote:
>
>
>
> I expect we will see some vigorous Googling in the next few minutes.
>
Nope, you had to say what you said because as you put it........."Most 
of my social time is spent in the company of police officers of one 
stripe or another." 

Hey, dont forget to renew your FOP medallion soon.

Chris Jaccarino

From Braveirwin at aol.com  Tue Jun 15 13:31:03 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:31:03 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Road trip to NC
Message-ID: <631b4.47a8ae33.3948da97@aol.com>



In a message dated 6/15/2010 8:09:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
todd.p.byrum at lmco.com writes:

Good  destination, good weather forecast, good enough!!  I rolled out last  
Thursday afternoon in beautiful weather and made camp at the Manor Area in  
Thurmont, MD that evening.  I had Boounder, a 1983  R100RS
=============================================
 
Nice ride report, Todd. Thanks.  Roddy.
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From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun 15 13:37:32 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:37:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] What ever happened to LEO warning?
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<<Nope, you had to say what you said because as you put 
it........."Most of my social time is spent in the company of police 
officers of one stripe or another." Hey, dont forget to renew your FOP 
medallion soon.>>

Nope. I had to say it because I know it to be true. PO's are just guys 
on a job. They are not spawned in Satan's image by the Mother of 
Beelzebub, just waiting to trample your civil rights and destroy your 
freedoms. I now it gives great fodder for insane rants to have a straw 
man to joust at, but cops ain't what you portray them as. Politicians, 
yep.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From gary5410 at aol.com  Tue Jun 15 14:11:43 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:11:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Road trip to NC
In-Reply-To: <F59EF81CD5ED4E4E888B6CA02B4C383302479950FD@HVXMSP6.us.lmco.com>
References: <F59EF81CD5ED4E4E888B6CA02B4C383302479950FD@HVXMSP6.us.lmco.com>
Message-ID: <8CCDAABD100C834-27FC-BB8A@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>

Nice report.........good weather and loneiy roads!!!!!! :-)
Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure

-----Original Message-----
From: Byrum, Todd P <todd.p.byrum at lmco.com>

Good destination, good weather forecast, good enough...............Luck 
and Trust.

todd byrum
gilbertsville, pa

From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com  Tue Jun 15 14:39:01 2010
From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:39:01 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Special Summer Breakfast this Saturday - June 19th
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The Mac-Pac will have a special Saturday breakfast gathering this SATURDAY on June 19th at the Joanna Furnace Historical site near Morgantown, PA.  We'll gather at 8:00am and enjoy the outstanding breakfast that the Hay Creek Valley Historical Association http://www.haycreek.org/ puts on.  Located three miles north of Morgantown on Route 10.   Turn at Furnace Road.  Its Father's Day weekend so bring the family.

This is one of Joanna Furnace's "Operation Days" so they have numerous special events going on and there will be preferred parking for motorcycles made 1985 and earlier.  If you're riding one of those then tell the volunteer when you get there and they'll direct you.
 
"Car Cruise Breakfast Buffet, Model T Car Games & Mechanical Technology exhibits.  Antique Motorcycle Club has been invited as well.

The Hay Creek Valley Historical Association will offer its hearty breakfast buffet with delicious homemade foods.   The menu usually includes: fresh country sausage, bacon,  scrapple, chipped cream beef, pancakes,  scrambled eggs, hash browns, fruit, baked oatmeal, toast, juice, coffee and tea.  Cost is $7.00 for adults and $3.50 for children ages 6 - 11.  Children under 6 are free.

Giant Flea Market: Spring has arrived and the Joanna Furnace Flea Market is once again open for business.   Visitors can shop for antiques, crafts, household items, tools, kids clothing, books, and much more in our ever-popular market.     Stands open at 7 am... so get here early to find that perfect bargain!"

Great breakfast and we should be eating "al fresco" since the weather look real fine.  See you there.

Todd byrum
Gilbertsville, PA

From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com  Tue Jun 15 14:43:08 2010
From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:43:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Monthly 3rd Sunday Breakfast this Sunday - Fathers Day
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The Mac-Pac will hold its monthly 3rd Sunday breakfast this weekend, June 20th, at the Pottstown Family Diner in Pottstown, Pa.  Most folks will gather by 8:00am but feel free to arrive whenever you like.  

Remind the waitresses to put your first name on your check so we can keep it all straight.  We'll use the atrium room on the east side of the restaurant.  We can use the back door but you MUST PAY at the front register before leaving for the day.  

For directions and other helpful information go to http://www.mac-pac.org and click on "eating".   

Nice USGS aerial photo/map at http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.249153,-75.659988&spn=0.005289,0.00769

Dark roof, just north east of Rte 100 and W King St Rte 663 (use satellite view).

todd byrum
gilbertsville, pa

From mrmevans at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 14:56:08 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:56:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] --OT......the miter mystery has been solved...
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On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Quinn Tex <quinntex2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I didn't......
>
> Do I dare ask what back cutting is? ?I'm always up to learn something new!
>
> Georgina

Hey Georgina,

I said back cut...more commonly called coping.

Most folks will determine the angle of a corner and cut the two trim
halves at half that angle to get them to fit properly. Any minor gaps
remaining can be filled with caulk or filler.

Another option is to butt the first piece of trim right up to the
corner - in other words don't cut it at all.

The second piece is then cut at a 45, then a coping saw is used to
back-cut the cut end following the profile of the molding.

Here's one example of the zillions of videos out there that show this
being done.

http://www.ehow.com/video_4417858_cope-base-trim-miter-saw.html

A benefit to this as that you can achieve a tight joint without
caulking even if the wall is not perfect, or you didn't measure the
angle perfect, or you measured the angle OK but when you nailed in the
trim the drywall shifted slightly, or.....etc.


-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From ephoet at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 15:20:49 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:20:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT A little excitement today
Message-ID: <AANLkTin4aDwjqEgxEGEW8NheuvV4U87Hzx3GTbuMR0y5@mail.gmail.com>

Just a little excitement here today at work in Ridley Park.

News choppers flying over head......Gendarmes and men in black cars......
Oh, and a b0mb squad too!!

Presumably will show up on somebodies noon time news.  Nothing on line
yet... as of 11:15A

Just another beautiful sunny day at Disney on the Delaware.

Presumably a suspicious "something" was found, but we really don't know as yet.

Erik H

From gary5410 at aol.com  Tue Jun 15 15:56:03 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:56:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] --OT......the miter mystery has been solved...
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Great videos!
Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Evans <mrmevans at gmail.com>


http://www.ehow.com/video_4417858_cope-base-trim-miter-saw.html

A benefit to this as that you can achieve a tight joint without
caulking even if the wall is not perfect, or you didn't measure the
angle perfect, or you measured the angle OK but when you nailed in the
trim the drywall shifted slightly, or.....etc.


--
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun 15 16:18:42 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:18:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend
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<<I'm glad we did it, and Jamie is too. Now we have to check with 
ourSecretary of State (DMV in other states I think), to see what her 
nextstep is. How does it work in PA, can a learner get a permit and 
ridewith an adult, or do they have to wait until they get their 
reallicense?>>

Once she has her MSF Diploma and motorcycle permit, she could ride in 
PA, as far as I recall. My son rode to Spokane, WA and down to LA, two 
days after he finished his MSF course at the age of 16 years and a few 
days. 7755 miles in 19 days.

We got stopped twice, bit since I was with him, the cops ignored the 
permit issue.

--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Misevich <misevich at gmail.com>
To: Mac-Pac <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 14, 2010 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Jamie and I are taking the BRC this weekend


What a weekend!Friday night class was ok, our instructors were 
personable and got usthrough the videos and booklet making it as 
interesting as possible.We covered a lot of ground and learned a lot. 
Much refresher stuff forme, mostly all new for Jamie.Saturday morning 
was muggy as we gathered at the course at 7:15am. Twohours later we had 
gone through quite a few drills that brought thegroup from level 0 to a 
point where they could actually ride the bikesaround a bit. I was 
impressed with the incremental steps taken thatseemed to work for 
everybody.Jamie and I were on Suzuki GZ 250's that made up the bulk of 
thebikes. Jamie liked it fine, I was a bit cramped and very unused to 
theriding position.We had a three hour break while the "B" class took 
their turn, so weran home and I mowed the lawn.The afternoon session 
was muggy and hotter, I think my helmet gained 5lbs during the session. 
I was able to snag one of the two YamahaXT-225's dual sports they had, 
and it fit much better.We got further along, doing some big ovals and 
shifting to second gearetc. Most riders were doing fine, but two ladies 
taking the classseemed to struggle a bit. One in particular seemed 
unstable and wascausing a traffic jam on the course. At one point she 
dumped her bikewhen she grabbed a handful of front brake in a turn. 
Luckily unhurt,but embarrassed.Everybody was telling me how great Jamie 
was doing, and after thesession she told me "I LIKE riding 
motorcycles". Uh oh. ;)  I told herI was glad she was having fun, that 
it doesn't speak to everybody.Sunday morning we were the late class, 
starting at 9:30am, so we hadtime to gear up at home and rode my bike 
to class. The temperature wasmuch cooler, and the forecast which was 
previously "intermittentthunderstorms" had changed to "mostly 
cloudy".The one lady that was really struggling the day before showed 
up, butdecided to back out and take the class at a later date. Since 
theyrode together, her friend backed out too, so we were down to 
10riders.We started into more advanced exercises and had a good time. 
Jamie wasdoing great, struggled a bit with the figure 8 in the box. I 
bit mytongue, not shouting "Turn your head!" and "Speed up a little!". 
Ifigured she'd get it or not with the instructors help.The second 
session Sunday was a couple more exercises and thenevaluations. 
Everybody passed! Jamie got nicked a couple of points inthe box for 
putting her feet down, and once in a sweeping turn forgoing a little 
too slow. Not bad, not bad at all. :)I'm glad we did it, and Jamie is 
too. Now we have to check with ourSecretary of State (DMV in other 
states I think), to see what her nextstep is. How does it work in PA, 
can a learner get a permit and ridewith an adult, or do they have to 
wait until they get their reallicense?Thanks,--Dave MisevichDexter, 
MI'85 K100RT'98 
R1100RT_______________________________________________Mac-pac-l mailing 
listMac-pac-l at jtan.comhttp://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
  

From ephoet at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 16:21:49 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:21:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT A little excitement today
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin4aDwjqEgxEGEW8NheuvV4U87Hzx3GTbuMR0y5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin4aDwjqEgxEGEW8NheuvV4U87Hzx3GTbuMR0y5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikIuszF5Lzd1wLUROksSZImcURDgyRAN_vOgkxE@mail.gmail.com>

Alas, it was all for naught.....

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=7498321

 "Boeing says an unexpected package was delivered at about 9:30.

An ex-ray showed suspicious wiring inside, and the Delaware County
bomb squad was called in.

The bomb squad took precautions to ensure it was inoperable. The
device was isolated and fired on by a remote gun. The package was then
carried away by hand.

It was determined that the box contained an electrical component for
an aircraft, and was not hazardous. "

I guess one aircraft will be short something electrical.......

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Erik Hoet <ephoet at gmail.com> wrote:
> Just a little excitement here today at work in Ridley Park.
>
> News choppers flying over head......Gendarmes and men in black cars......
> Oh, and a b0mb squad too!!
>
> Presumably will show up on somebodies noon time news. ?Nothing on line
> yet... as of 11:15A
>
> Just another beautiful sunny day at Disney on the Delaware.
>
> Presumably a suspicious "something" was found, but we really don't know as yet.
>
> Erik H
>

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 16:25:46 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:25:46 -0600
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R leaving for Colorado
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin_ZOr7x48Ab9ZfELfBhww5u2Bv1FUbmYHPmI1S@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin_ZOr7x48Ab9ZfELfBhww5u2Bv1FUbmYHPmI1S@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimuI4QKiWrXFsD-B5LPSPP15JooHwqNoVMMMZ21@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll be riding out in about an hour, to Estes Park, which is 70 miles
> NW of Denver, about 1800 miles.
>
> Taking the slab. ?Expect to get there Tues PM.
>
> This is for the 45th reunion of our Peace Corps Thailand group. ?About
> 30 old buddies are getting together, as we do every 5 or ten years.
>
> Returning home probably by next Sunday night, so I'll probably miss
> 3rd Sunday breakfast that day.
>

Arrived in Colorado Monday night, just 24 hrs after leaving Ambler.
Faster than I expected.  Other than rain in Ohio and Iowa the weather
was great and road conditions on I-80 were good.  Apparently I just
missed torrential rains in northern Colorado the day before.

I didn't intend to push it that hard, but after each gas fill-up (260
miles average), I just felt like going for a ride.  Took a catnap on a
bench in Ohio, another one in Nebraska.  The bike is running great.

I rode pretty fast.  The LEO's were active especially in Iowa and
Nebraska, but I was just lucky again, no tickets.

Now it's a beautiful day, I got a wonderful sleep at a Best Western,
and I should be having a scenic leisurely ride of about 150 miles up
into the Rockies to Estes Park via Greeley on Rte 34.  Our reunion
starts there this afternoon.

The rolling hills of Nebraska in late afternoon bright sun with puffy
little clouds looked like endless variations of the old MS Windows
main page.  In the dusk and light rain in NE Colorado it was an
impressive empty rangeland, but polluted every 20miles or so by beef
feed lots, half a mile square, emanating a stench that follows and
stays with you.

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 16:58:50 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:58:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT A little excitement today
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikIuszF5Lzd1wLUROksSZImcURDgyRAN_vOgkxE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin4aDwjqEgxEGEW8NheuvV4U87Hzx3GTbuMR0y5@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikIuszF5Lzd1wLUROksSZImcURDgyRAN_vOgkxE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinHqRwtTB6pj7j75nhs9GIxDGCE8GJ5yzQI2qfp@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/15/10, Erik Hoet <ephoet at gmail.com> wrote:
> Alas, it was all for naught.....
>
>  http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=7498321
>
>   "Boeing says an unexpected package was delivered at about 9:30.
>
>  An ex-ray showed suspicious wiring inside, and the Delaware County
>  bomb squad was called in.

I wonder if someone will be asked just why they thought it was "unexpected".

>  It was determined that the box contained an electrical component for
>  an aircraft, and was not hazardous. "
>
>  I guess one aircraft will be short something electrical.......

Yes, and I wonder if someone will be asked why they did not do more
checking before being "safe".

There is a cost to everything.

-- 
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From ephoet at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 17:10:36 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:10:36 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R leaving for Colorado
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimuI4QKiWrXFsD-B5LPSPP15JooHwqNoVMMMZ21@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin_ZOr7x48Ab9ZfELfBhww5u2Bv1FUbmYHPmI1S@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTimuI4QKiWrXFsD-B5LPSPP15JooHwqNoVMMMZ21@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilI-deA2rNE-7okV5qLXisJ8Ny5Q_FSDzDsjkcO@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Doug Raymond
> <douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'll be riding out in about an hour, to Estes Park, which is 70 miles
>> NW of Denver, about 1800 miles.
>>
>> Taking the slab. ?Expect to get there Tues PM.
>>
>> This is for the 45th reunion of our Peace Corps Thailand group. ?About
>> 30 old buddies are getting together, as we do every 5 or ten years.
>>
>> Returning home probably by next Sunday night, so I'll probably miss
>> 3rd Sunday breakfast that day.
>>
>
> Arrived in Colorado Monday night, just 24 hrs after leaving Ambler.
> Faster than I expected. ?Other than rain in Ohio and Iowa the weather
> was great and road conditions on I-80 were good. ?Apparently I just
> missed torrential rains in northern Colorado the day before.
>
> I didn't intend to push it that hard, but after each gas fill-up (260
> miles average), I just felt like going for a ride. ?Took a catnap on a
> bench in Ohio, another one in Nebraska. ?The bike is running great.
>
> I rode pretty fast. ?The LEO's were active especially in Iowa and
> Nebraska, but I was just lucky again, no tickets.
>
> Now it's a beautiful day, I got a wonderful sleep at a Best Western,
> and I should be having a scenic leisurely ride of about 150 miles up
> into the Rockies to Estes Park via Greeley on Rte 34. ?Our reunion
> starts there this afternoon.
>
> The rolling hills of Nebraska in late afternoon bright sun with puffy
> little clouds looked like endless variations of the old MS Windows
> main page. ?In the dusk and light rain in NE Colorado it was an
> impressive empty rangeland, but polluted every 20miles or so by beef
> feed lots, half a mile square, emanating a stench that follows and
> stays with you.
>
> --
> -- ---------------
> _______________________________________________

1650 miles in 24 hours?  Not pushing too hard are we?

You'd have to average 69 mph just to make that.   Subtract out the
catnaps, that average would be over 70.

I guess you were going pretty fast!

Glad you made it in one piece and without any constabulary awards

Erik

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Tue Jun 15 17:23:03 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:23:03 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Wal-Mart Battery?
Message-ID: <47682.12.181.211.35.1276622583.squirrel@12.181.211.35>

Has anyone here purchased a car battery at Wal-Mart?  How did it work out
for you?

Ride safe,

Joe


From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun 15 17:22:55 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:22:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] DeerStrike at Summit Point - warning,
	graphic accident video
Message-ID: <8CCDAC686D29D42-FF0-EB3@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com>

Deer suck.

My friend Tim Wilson hit a deer while leading the Heavyweight Expert 
Solo Race at Summit Point last Saturday.

The following rider, John Palmer, got this video of the crash:

WARNING: graphic accident video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW7ktbJzpPs

Here's a frame-by frame of the last part of that video:

http://www.untamedvelocity.com/videos/Deerstrike.wmv

Tim is currently leading the WERA Northeast Region Points standings in 
Senior Superbike Heavyweight Expert class 
http://www.wera.com/points/showpoints.asp?x=1098&s=1102296917&rg=5&c=14

He was released from Winchester General Hospital last night. his 
shoulder is pretty badly injured, but they decided to not do surgery at 
this time,. He has a few broken ribs. No neuro damage. Lots of bruises. 
It was a violent crash, probably about 120 MPH at that point entering 
Turn Four while leading an Expert race. Tim has had pretty bad luck at 
Summit this year. He wrecked the same bike at the previous Summit WERA 
event in April, just got it repaired in tome for this, which was his 
first race of the weekend.

Have a prayer for Tim if you are so inclined. We race to avoid hitting 
stuff like this, but the deer at Summit are inured to noise.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From motorrader at verizon.net  Tue Jun 15 17:26:07 2010
From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:26:07 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R leaving for Colorado
References: <AANLkTin_ZOr7x48Ab9ZfELfBhww5u2Bv1FUbmYHPmI1S@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimuI4QKiWrXFsD-B5LPSPP15JooHwqNoVMMMZ21@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilI-deA2rNE-7okV5qLXisJ8Ny5Q_FSDzDsjkcO@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <92B18EBADD214FA1ACDFC453952296B8@dellfe483b726d>


1650 miles in 24 hours?  Not pushing too hard are we?
Erik


A commercial solo driver would only be allowed to drive about 650 miles per 
day as per federally mandated DOT laws.  Of course to do that it would have 
to be all turnpike/interstate highway.

So Doug only exceeded that by a thousand miles..........must be some good 
coffee he's drinking !!

Todd


From ephoet at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 17:24:23 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:24:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] new HD helmut cam
Message-ID: <AANLkTin4Yi1xM6eU4fYwYcqYpZSeT4wjpz8yofpBFnah@mail.gmail.com>

HD format, handles up to 32GB SD card.   Water resistant to 0.5m  170
deg wide angle lens.
Even a small on board screen to review your new video.

All for a mere pittance of $330

http://www.gizmag.com/drift-innovations-hd170-action-cam/15404/
http://www.driftinnovation.com/hd170-action-camera.php

Erik H

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Tue Jun 15 17:46:32 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:46:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] DeerStrike at Summit Point - warning,
 graphic accident video
In-Reply-To: <8CCDAC686D29D42-FF0-EB3@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCDAC686D29D42-FF0-EB3@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C17BC78.6070509@ptd.net>

Tom Cutter wrote:
> Deer suck.
>
> My friend Tim Wilson hit a deer while leading the Heavyweight Expert 
> Solo Race at Summit Point last Saturday.
Man that just sucks.  One goes to the track to be able to ride/race in a 
"safe" environment without cars, animals, etc.  Looks like that is no 
longer possible at Summit Point.  I've always wondered why stands of 
trees are permitted anywhere near a racetrack.  One or two trees, sure, 
but mini forests should not exist...simply too much cover for animals.  
I wonder what Summit's actions will  be...leave or remove the vegetation?

Hope your friend heals fast with 100% recovery.

Chris Jaccarino

From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun 15 17:54:55 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:54:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] DeerStrike at Summit Point - warning,
	graphic accident video
In-Reply-To: <4C17BC78.6070509@ptd.net>
References: <8CCDAC686D29D42-FF0-EB3@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com>
	<4C17BC78.6070509@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <8CCDACAFF59FD73-FF0-1622@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com>


<<Man that just sucks.  One goes to the track to be able to ride/race 
in a "safe" environment without cars, animals, etc.  Looks like that is 
no longer possible at Summit Point.  I've always wondered why stands of 
trees are permitted anywhere near a racetrack.  One or two trees, sure, 
but mini forests should not exist...simply too much cover for animals.  
I wonder what Summit's actions will  be...leave or remove the 
vegetation??
?
Hope your friend heals fast with 100% recovery.?>>

The track winds through a wooded area. I have zero doubt that Jens 
Scott will leave it just as it is. There are deer. there are gophrs. 
There are turtles (One guy was using  a turtle as a braking reference 
point. until the turtle walked toward the corner. Then the guy crashed. 
There was a fox on the track last year at Shenandoah Circuit.

  Shit happens. Nobody has to "fix" what ain't broken. One thing there 
ain't, in racing,is chickens.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Tue Jun 15 18:27:37 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:27:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] DeerStrike at Summit Point - warning,
 graphic accident video
In-Reply-To: <1738383652.6042201276626418652.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <825246928.6042471276626457874.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

> Shit happens. Nobody has to "fix" what ain't broken. One thing there 
>ain't, in racing,is chickens. 


I wonder if WERA will mandate deer whistles on all the bikes? Snicker snicker. 

Seriously that sucks. Last year a F1 driver hit a dog at the Istanbul circuit in Turkey. The dog pretty much vaporized, as did the front end of his car. Nasty stuff. 


John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From mmehalik at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 18:45:26 2010
From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:45:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Wal-Mart Battery?
In-Reply-To: <47682.12.181.211.35.1276622583.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
References: <47682.12.181.211.35.1276622583.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilySKr0HnjOO6QQd_r6tJP0aXkwAzmA43UpXoDb@mail.gmail.com>

I have, it made it about a year. Warranty was impossible to work.

-mark

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Joe Dille <joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us> wrote:
> Has anyone here purchased a car battery at Wal-Mart? ?How did it work out
> for you?
>
> Ride safe,
>
> Joe
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mac-pac-l mailing list
> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
>

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Tue Jun 15 18:54:48 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:54:48 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Wal-Mart Battery?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilySKr0HnjOO6QQd_r6tJP0aXkwAzmA43UpXoDb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47682.12.181.211.35.1276622583.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
	<AANLkTilySKr0HnjOO6QQd_r6tJP0aXkwAzmA43UpXoDb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <30260.12.181.211.35.1276628088.squirrel@12.181.211.35>

> I have, it made it about a year. Warranty was impossible to work.
>
> -mark
>

Thanks for the data.

Ride Safe,

Joe


From 440props at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 18:56:26 2010
From: 440props at gmail.com (Robert Atkinson)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:56:26 -0500
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Wal-Mart Battery?
In-Reply-To: <47682.12.181.211.35.1276622583.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
References: <47682.12.181.211.35.1276622583.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
Message-ID: <3fe4183308d9018f52aea9eb567b44e4@gmail.com>


On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Joe Dille wrote:

> Has anyone here purchased a car battery at Wal-Mart?  How did it work 
> out
> for you?   Ride safe,     Joe

2001 Mercury Sable had a battery fail in Rhinelander, WI. in a parking 
lot across from
a Wal-Mart!    Removed old battery & used a market cart to haul it the 
automotive counter.
Little old lady ran a diagnostic & proclaimed a "dead cell".    She 
checked the inventory
& had the right replacement in stock.    Cart the new battery across 
the street & replaced.
  Battery still working after 5 years - I don't remember the price 
($70?) but the labor was our own.
--
Best, Robert Atkinson - 1988 K75S -1993 K75RT - ASTRAL BLUE
Beemer Hill Riders - BOOF  # 161 - MOA # 89159 -  
http://sidestandup.com/default.aspx
"Every town has a few bad drivers, eventually they all move to Racine, 
Wisconsin"


From jasiii at earthlink.net  Tue Jun 15 20:16:04 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:16:04 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT WD-40 sale
Message-ID: <C83D57C4.43A0%jasiii@earthlink.net>

Just to share   Home Depot has a 6 pack of WD-40 on sale for 12.88 at
Claymont De store

Your local store may also have this un-advertised special also..

Good price.. 1/2 of normal

Just to share

Jim



From wayne at 2zars.com  Tue Jun 15 20:56:07 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:56:07 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT WD-40 sale
In-Reply-To: <C83D57C4.43A0%jasiii@earthlink.net>
References: <C83D57C4.43A0%jasiii@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiknvrbVCL0J3Qtoj2v8fNY-8r8c8UkXa0MNp78a@mail.gmail.com>

> Just to share ? Home Depot has a 6 pack of WD-40 on sale for 12.88 at
> Claymont De store

6-pack?  I buy it by the gallon :-)

-- 
Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From Buzbiker1 at aol.com  Tue Jun 15 21:47:46 2010
From: Buzbiker1 at aol.com (Buzbiker1 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:47:46 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] DeerStrike at Summit Point - warning,
	graphic accident video
Message-ID: <98073.225da582.39494f02@aol.com>

Ouch!!!  If he is young he will heal  quickly and be back soon.  If he's 
old like some of us its gonna take a  while.

Buzz

Buzz Davis
337 Beaumont Road
Devon, PA.  19333
610-574-0927
buzbiker1 at aol.com

In a message dated 6/15/2010  1:23:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
tpcutter at aol.com  writes:
http://www.untamedvelocity.com/videos/Deerstrike.wmv  


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 22:04:21 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:04:21 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] DeerStrike at Summit Point - warning,
	graphic accident 	video
In-Reply-To: <8CCDACAFF59FD73-FF0-1622@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCDAC686D29D42-FF0-EB3@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com>
	<4C17BC78.6070509@ptd.net>
	<8CCDACAFF59FD73-FF0-1622@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com>
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On 6/15/10, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:

>   Shit happens. Nobody has to "fix" what ain't broken. One thing there
>  ain't, in racing,is chickens.

True that.  This report just in "from" a friend of mine:

=============
The brain pressure is still reading at a low level and the
neurosurgeons are thrilled with that.  He will periodically show them
two fingers if they persistently ask him.  This is an improvement
since he came in on Saturday unresponsive.  They are removing
tremendous amounts of fluid from his lungs.  This is partly from Mike
aspirating in the helicopter ride to the hospital ( he always wanted
to take a helicopter ride over a race track) and partly from lying
down for so much of the time.

For those of you that do not know what has occurred--Mike took a
tumble to check out the stability of his leathers on the track at
Carolina Motorsports Park track day this past Saturday.  For the most
part, we have concured that zippers in leathers are not very strong.
He has road rash on his left shoulder, collar bone fractured into 3
pieces, possible rotor cuff damage to left shoulder, lacerations to
right elbow and a significant brain injury.  A monitor has been
inserted into his right temporal lobe to take pressure readings for
brain swelling.  As I mentioned earlier the readings are great.  It
does not appear that the bleeding in the brain is increasing so that
is good news also.  Mike is at a level one Trauma Center so he has the
best care possible.

Thank you Dave and Jay for loading that bike and Mike's gear up and
bringing everything to our home. Matthew and I were able to
concentrate on Mike and the doctors.  We can't begin to tell you how
grateful we are to you two.

=================

Good morning!  Update on Mike's condition this a.m.  Mike developed
pneumonia yesterday.  The doctors performed a bronchioscope which
suctions the lungs.  They started mega doses of antibiotics and will
try to zero in on a specific bacteria to attack with a proper
antibiotic.  The respirator is helping him keep correct oxygen levels
in the body.  The brain pressure has remained between 5 and 0 which is
fantastic.  The neurosurgeon is very comfortable that swelling will
not occur now so at 8:00 last night they removed the monitor from his
brain.  At one point in time Mike opened his eyes and recognized and
gripped our hands.  They started giving him nourishment similar to a
vitamin milkshake thru his tubes last night so hopefully, this will
help him fight the pneumonia and gain strength to wake up. He had an
uneventful night so he was stable all night and his fever did come
down to 101.

============

And such is "good news" from his wife.

Oh, and one needs strong zippers on their leathers it seems too.

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From piechota at argolis.org  Tue Jun 15 22:57:39 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:57:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] DeerStrike at Summit Point - warning,
	graphic accident 	video
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik67vCOGkpBAFufg3niQQ6K75po4s5xFduh1wnx@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CCDAC686D29D42-FF0-EB3@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com>
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	<8CCDACAFF59FD73-FF0-1622@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTik67vCOGkpBAFufg3niQQ6K75po4s5xFduh1wnx@mail.gmail.com>
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Brian Curry wrote:

> And such is "good news" from his wife.
> 
> Oh, and one needs strong zippers on their leathers it seems too.

I don't suppose we could find out what he was wearing, could we? 
(Sometime in the future, of course)

From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun 15 23:16:14 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:16:14 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] DeerStrike at Summit Point - warning,
	graphic accident  video
In-Reply-To: <4C180563.5090001@argolis.org>
References: <8CCDAC686D29D42-FF0-EB3@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com><4C17BC78.6070509@ptd.net><8CCDACAFF59FD73-FF0-1622@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com><AANLkTik67vCOGkpBAFufg3niQQ6K75po4s5xFduh1wnx@mail.gmail.com>
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<<Brian Curry wrote:?
?
> And such is "good news" from his wife.?
> > Oh, and one needs strong zippers on their leathers it seems too.?
?
I don't suppose we could find out what he was wearing, could we? 
(Sometime in the future, of course)?>>

Just to clarify a point that may have gotten fuzzy here:

Tim Wilson hit a deer at Summit Point on Saturday. Tim is at home, 
healing from broken ribs and a dislocated shoulder, among other lesser 
injuries. That was the video posted.

BMW Racer Mike Kelly from N.C. was severely injured in a crash between 
turns three and four at Carolina Motorsports Park, in Kershaw, S.C. 
Mike is ot doing well. The hourly reports are getting confusing.

It's way too soon, and may always be too soon, to ask what gear he was 
wearing. I'm sure it was well-worn racing leather. Mike is a 
Vintage-class racer who raced on a shoestring budget. Anton and I 
assisted Mike at the WERA Grand National Finals in 2007, but we were 
unsuccessful in getting his ailing R100 race bike to run well enough 
for a podium finish. Mike is a nice guy, his wife Mona is a real 
supportive racer's wife. This is a very difficullt time for her.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??


From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun 15 23:33:49 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:33:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: June 17 Summit Point Motorcycle Xcitement
In-Reply-To: <2e019f96cb39f2648d9161ac7c63c806aac.20100615193224@mcsv64.net>
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--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??


-----Original Message-----
From: Motorcycle Xcitement <roger at motorcyclexcitement.com>
To: Tom <tpcutter at aol.com>
Sent: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 3:33 pm
Subject: June 17 Summit Point Motorcycle Xcitement



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Thursday, June 17 at Summit Point Raceway
and holiday Monday, July 5 Shenandoah at Summit Point!

We still have space for you and your friends to come out Thursday to 
Summit Point Raceway for another FUN track day with Motorcycle 
Xcitement. We will be having a road racing school too. Our coaches are 
ready to show you some new lines and we have expert racer Dylan Scott 
set to speak at lunch time. Sit in on this informational lesson about 
high speed riding. Dylan will explain body positioning, throttle and 
brake control and how to handle the turns. Al Wilcox, our starter, will 
be there with a new story, too! Gates open 6 p.m. Wed. night, through 
the night. Registration and Tech open at 7 a.m. and the rider's meeting 
is at 8:15 with the first group of bikes on track at 9 a.m. One lucky 
rider will win a free track day at the rider's meeting!

Sign-up now or at the track. The weather  should be beautiful with 
sunny skies, no rain, mid 80's!

Lizzy Leather will be at Summit Point Raceway with services limited to 
minor patching and zipper and glove repair. Drop off your suit at the 
end of the day to save on shipping. Massage by Abby?will work the kinks 
out of your sore muscles. These ladies are very good! Quentin Mize will 
have tires for you and Kenny Martin of MRP Motorsports will offer 
tuning and suspension services. Race Day Photo will be snapping photos 
of you. Bob's BMW will be bringing their riders out on Thursday. Ram 
Cycles Riders will be there, too. Duc Pond Motorsports and Battley 
Cycles should be well represented, too.

The fireworks don't stop on the fourth. On Monday, July 5, Motorcycle 
Xcitement will be riding the Shenandoah Raceway at Summit Point. (We 
know we had the main track on our schedule, but that has changed. We 
apologize for any inconvenience and we will refund your fee if need 
be.) The Shenandoah is a FUN track with 20 turns in 2 miles! Many 
riders have been asking for more Shenandoah dates.
Call your friends and make your plans now. THIS IS A LOT OF FUN! We 
have some more surprises for you on July 5. All the usual suspects will 
be there to make this another Motorcycle Xcitement Track Day to 
remember.

July 8 we are scheduled for the Thunderbolt Raceway in New Jersey 
Motorsports Park. Are you in for that?

Thank you for riding with us.


Ride fast. Ride safe. Ride with us!



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From Ducdude at verizon.net  Wed Jun 16 00:07:35 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:07:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT WD-40 sale
References: <C83D57C4.43A0%jasiii@earthlink.net>
	<AANLkTiknvrbVCL0J3Qtoj2v8fNY-8r8c8UkXa0MNp78a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C2EA8D045BCC4B97888A0AE2DE45517D@heilveil5e3fdd>




> Just to share Home Depot has a 6 pack of WD-40 on sale for 12.88 at
> Claymont De store

6-pack?  I buy it by the gallon :-)
-- 
Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com

Yup, I buy it by the agallon too from MSC  and pay almost nothing  for it 
and the requierd spray bottel it lasts a LOOOOOG time

Duc




From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 02:34:05 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:34:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] This may be of interest to Doug Raymond when he gets back
	from CO.
Message-ID: <AANLkTim-68TernS7BTUAiKen_A_LxseVpkAeg05uXtE8@mail.gmail.com>

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20007670-265.html
(WS)

"Better GPS graphs, browser in new Google Earth"

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From gary5410 at aol.com  Wed Jun 16 02:45:06 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:45:06 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R leaving for Colorado
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimuI4QKiWrXFsD-B5LPSPP15JooHwqNoVMMMZ21@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin_ZOr7x48Ab9ZfELfBhww5u2Bv1FUbmYHPmI1S@mail.gmail.com>
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WOW.......crazy long ride!!!!    :-)
Glad you made it safely!
I have done NO riding.....to much kitchen work.....that's going to have 
to change!

Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure


-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Raymond <douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com>
To: Mac-Pac <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
Sent: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 12:25 pm
Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Doug R leaving for Colorado


On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll be riding out in about an hour, to Estes Park, which is 70 miles
> NW of Denver, about 1800 miles.
>
> Taking the slab. ?Expect to get there Tues PM.
>
> This is for the 45th reunion of our Peace Corps Thailand group. ?About
> 30 old buddies are getting together, as we do every 5 or ten years.
>
> Returning home probably by next Sunday night, so I'll probably miss
> 3rd Sunday breakfast that day.
>

Arrived in Colorado Monday night, just 24 hrs after leaving Ambler.
Faster than I expected.  Other than rain in Ohio and Iowa the weather
was great and road conditions on I-80 were good.  Apparently I just
missed torrential rains in northern Colorado the day before.

I didn't intend to push it that hard, but after each gas fill-up (260
miles average), I just felt like going for a ride.  Took a catnap on a
bench in Ohio, another one in Nebraska.  The bike is running great.

I rode pretty fast.  The LEO's were active especially in Iowa and
Nebraska, but I was just lucky again, no tickets.

Now it's a beautiful day, I got a wonderful sleep at a Best Western,
and I should be having a scenic leisurely ride of about 150 miles up
into the Rockies to Estes Park via Greeley on Rte 34.  Our reunion
starts there this afternoon.

The rolling hills of Nebraska in late afternoon bright sun with puffy
little clouds looked like endless variations of the old MS Windows
main page.  In the dusk and light rain in NE Colorado it was an
impressive empty rangeland, but polluted every 20miles or so by beef
feed lots, half a mile square, emanating a stench that follows and
stays with you.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 03:00:22 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 23:00:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:What happens when BP spills coffee...
Message-ID: <AANLkTikG1o0uv55C7KYnXXK9PvdfIIN_iFUR6tWz8C4A@mail.gmail.com>

Humorous spoof of the BP oil spill disaster.  SFW unless you're a BP or
Halliburton employee:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAa0gd7ClM
(Language issue "F" word at one point.)

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 03:05:30 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 23:05:30 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Almost a three wheeler
Message-ID: <AANLkTimU0Dzk0Uwc4_NaFnClfyrgiH30Wiybi2YXd3xs@mail.gmail.com>

I suspect with the right front tire for the tires, it could be a three
wheeler though an so a "bike" FSVOBike.

http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/photos/gallery#item=125493
(WS)

Cool frog.  Dual plugged.  1000HP.  I think it needs wheelie bars just
in case the rear wheels ever REALLY hook up.  (There is no roll cage
and a flip would be BAD.)

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From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun 16 02:56:42 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:56:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Going Tubless
Message-ID: <4C183D6A.9010705@ptd.net>

http://www.tubliss.com/

For those that still have tubes in their tires....essentially a way of 
going tubless...or the equivalent thereof.

Chris Jaccarino

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 03:15:45 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 23:15:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: US versus England at the World Cup
Message-ID: <AANLkTinORvv0oUI7Z05ezr8P6UG47QyHSOr4s9c7SxjC@mail.gmail.com>

A re-enactment.  Only 1 min 30 sec long.

If you have not seen the game yet, DO NOT watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUnU3B6WsJ4
(WS done in Legos.)

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 03:54:06 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 23:54:06 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] I wonder if you pull the string to really start them up?
Message-ID: <AANLkTik0E3cZUNwAKiBt2l25q8fLSICGXq4xYSGP6sUa@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2010/wdw/2/d.htm
(NWS general impression)

Likely not hairy enough for Jim but kinda matches Ducdude.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 04:02:29 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 00:02:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Mike Kelly Update 6/15/10
Message-ID: <AANLkTimC-s02F2fw76zTGtZ7FPLKnjTB9XnzvzS8b3I1@mail.gmail.com>

>From his son here.
==================

Hello all, Matt typing here.? Wanted to give a quick update.
Thanks for the prayers so far, they are definitely helping.? It has
been a trying time, as things just aren't progressing as?quickly as we
would like.? However, no news is good news at this point in the game,
and that's about all I've got this evening.? Due to the pneumonia, he
did have to rely more on the respirator today, but?all in all it was a
good day.? Recieved a few small responses from him at various points
in the day.? They took him off of the constant morphine today, so that
is encouraging.??Also, he started on a medicine today that should help
wake him up over the next 3-5 days.??Honestly it is scary because we
just don't know what?to expect, but?we are hoping and praying for the
best.

The best news came late in the evening.? Overnight they will?be moving
dad to a private room within the trauma ICU.? He has been sharing
quarters with 3 other patients, and there is always activity and
noise.? Hopefully the quieter setting will allow him to get more rest
and heal faster.? Also, there have been several times we were unable
to see him during visiting hours because other patients were
undergoing procedures.? Fortunately, this will alleviate that issue.
The care will be just as good, maybe?even a little better because of
the lack of distractions.

Allison (my wife) is working on a website?to?keep everyone updated on
Mike's condition.??We will let you know when it is up.

Thanks again for all the prayers and support!

-Matt Kelly

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Wed Jun 16 10:46:03 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 06:46:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Almost a three wheeler
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimU0Dzk0Uwc4_NaFnClfyrgiH30Wiybi2YXd3xs@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C18732B.7669.246BF4@localhost>



> I suspect with the right front tire for the tires, it could be a three
> wheeler though an so a "bike" FSVOBike.
> 
> http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/photos/gallery#item=125493
> (WS)
> 
> Cool frog.  Dual plugged.  1000HP.  I think it needs wheelie bars just
> in case the rear wheels ever REALLY hook up.  (There is no roll cage
> and a flip would be BAD.)
> 

That is one bad ride.  It looks like it has been ridden some as the 
switch gear looks worn.  There is also a large crack in the rear tail 
section.  Interesting.

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From piechota at argolis.org  Wed Jun 16 11:43:22 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:43:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] new HD helmut cam
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin4Yi1xM6eU4fYwYcqYpZSeT4wjpz8yofpBFnah@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin4Yi1xM6eU4fYwYcqYpZSeT4wjpz8yofpBFnah@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C18B8DA.8070407@argolis.org>

Erik Hoet wrote:
> HD format, handles up to 32GB SD card.   Water resistant to 0.5m  170
> deg wide angle lens.
> Even a small on board screen to review your new video.
> 
> All for a mere pittance of $330
> 
> http://www.gizmag.com/drift-innovations-hd170-action-cam/15404/
> http://www.driftinnovation.com/hd170-action-camera.php

Cool, I had read about the standard def. version of this and was really 
curious.  The remote button to start/stop is a big draw as long as the 
camera doesn't suck (compared to the vholdr or gopro).

From piechota at argolis.org  Wed Jun 16 12:33:42 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 08:33:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Food and Riding this Weekend
Message-ID: <4C18C4A6.9030903@argolis.org>

I have a friend coming into town this weekend, so I have a couple rides 
and meals planned.  In anyone is interested in joining us, let me know.

Friday evening: Jimmy's BBQ, around 7PM.  Possibly Victory afterwards 
for a locally-made beverage (motorcycle questionable).

Saturday afternoon: Vito's for cheesesteak, around noon.  Gotta take her 
to the best! :)  After that, going for a ride to the North and West, 
probably in the general direction of Hermy's.  Might hike a (very) 
little of the Appalachian trail if we get up to Hawk Mountain.

If possible, let me know ahead of time if anyone plans on going.  That 
way I'll try to keep to the schedule. :)

From ephoet at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 12:53:24 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 08:53:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Bald Eagle for chasing birds
Message-ID: <AANLkTil_JI5G1jys0wbp-wtr50PSlCEdZgN7x7Ue-IQK@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, Jack.  Another crazy Dutchman doing his thing:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's a Robotic Bald Eagle
The Wall Street Journal     06/16/2010 -- By Daniel Michaels

If Robert Musters had his way, Chesley Sullenberger wouldn't be a
celebrity... Mr. Musters wants to chase geese away from busy air lanes
with his robotic bald eagle. He also has a radio-controlled falcon to
scare off smaller birds.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704324304575306541506554802.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsTop

Article includes photo and video clip.  Very cool

EPH

From ephoet at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 13:51:35 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:51:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Going Tubless
In-Reply-To: <4C183D6A.9010705@ptd.net>
References: <4C183D6A.9010705@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilLeu-lghcRNquoRyZbM4R4nnytANzzCzHRuEhV@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Chris <chrisjac at ptd.net> wrote:
> http://www.tubliss.com/
>
> For those that still have tubes in their tires....essentially a way of
> going tubless...or the equivalent thereof.
>
> Chris Jaccarino
> _______________________________________________


Neat device.

But at $100 per rim, that is a whole lot more costly than a $12 inner tube.

18, 19, and 21 inch rims only

Hard to see how its lighter than an inner tube....

Erik H

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun 16 14:03:30 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:03:30 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:  Quickbooks
Message-ID: <4C18D9B2.3010601@ptd.net>

So, I go to invoice a customer today using Quickbooks and Thunderbird 
email as I always do and I get the message.........."sorry but this 
application is currently unavailable".  WTF that has never happened 
before.  So I dig around Quickbooks as I suspect I have an application 
issue.  I restart computer, reinstall Quickbooks, re-update Quickbooks 
and the same result....application currently unavailable. 

So I start searching online for answers and come to find that the Intuit 
(maker of Quickbooks) website is down.  Interesting.  Now I am far from 
a computer czar but I need I have a couple of questions....

1.  Why would Quickbooks using Thunderbird need to use the Intuit 
website for sending out emails? 

2.  Is this a normal procedure for an application to go through or 
otherwise communicate with their servers before sending out something 
from your computer?

It's interesting because Quickbooks has downloaded its update, but it 
cant talk with Thunderbird unless their website is up or am I just 
screwed up?

Chris Jaccarino

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun 16 14:10:22 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:10:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Going Tubless
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilLeu-lghcRNquoRyZbM4R4nnytANzzCzHRuEhV@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C183D6A.9010705@ptd.net>
	<AANLkTilLeu-lghcRNquoRyZbM4R4nnytANzzCzHRuEhV@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C18DB4E.6020909@ptd.net>

Erik Hoet wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Chris <chrisjac at ptd.net> wrote:
>   
>> http://www.tubliss.com/
>>
>> For those that still have tubes in their tires....essentially a way of
>> going tubless...or the equivalent thereof.
>>
>> Chris Jaccarino
>> _______________________________________________
>>     
>
>
> Neat device.
>
> But at $100 per rim, that is a whole lot more costly than a $12 inner tube.
>
> 18, 19, and 21 inch rims only
>
> Hard to see how its lighter than an inner tube....
>
>   


Try $30 to $35 for Ultra heavy duty tubes which weigh a lot.  $12 to $17 
is a cheapie tube.  For off road riders, the ability to continue riding 
on a flat because the tire is still on the bead is pretty 
useful...albeit with a a bit sloppier handling since there is no air in 
the annular space between the product and tire.

I came to find out that the product has been out for a couple years now 
and is "approved" for off road use only.  That hasnt stopped people who 
ride street from using the product though.  For the most part, what 
seems to be the reaction to the product is that it pretty much stops all 
pinch flats (an off road issue when low pressure riding) but there have 
been some issues with the product sealing.    

Chris Jaccarino



From jasiii at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 16 14:06:12 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:06:12 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:  Quickbooks
Message-ID: <14288836.1276697172344.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>
>So, I go to invoice a customer today using Quickbooks and Thunderbird 
>email as I always do and I get the message.........."sorry but this 
>application is currently unavailable".  WTF that has never happened 
>before.  So I dig around Quickbooks as I suspect I have an application 
>issue.  I restart computer, reinstall Quickbooks, re-update Quickbooks 
>and the same result....application currently unavailable. 
>
>So I start searching online for answers and come to find that the Intuit 
>(maker of Quickbooks) website is down.  Interesting.  Now I am far from 
>a computer czar but I need I have a couple of questions....
>
>1.  Why would Quickbooks using Thunderbird need to use the Intuit 
>website for sending out emails? 
>
>2.  Is this a normal procedure for an application to go through or 
>otherwise communicate with their servers before sending out something 
>from your computer?
>
>It's interesting because Quickbooks has downloaded its update, but it 
>cant talk with Thunderbird unless their website is up or am I just 
>screwed up?
>
>Chris Jaccarino

Chris

Just a guess .. I would bet some money that Quickbooks looks for the web site to ?? check for updates, check for license or checks for other support data..  and if not on the internet then just quits.. 

Not a nice way to run but ....

Not much in help but no, you are not the cause of the problem.. it is Quickbooks...

Jim



James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Wed Jun 16 14:29:36 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:29:36 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Bald Eagle for chasing birds
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil_JI5G1jys0wbp-wtr50PSlCEdZgN7x7Ue-IQK@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil_JI5G1jys0wbp-wtr50PSlCEdZgN7x7Ue-IQK@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <18068.12.181.211.35.1276698576.squirrel@12.181.211.35>

> Sorry, Jack.  Another crazy Dutchman doing his thing:
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's a Robotic Bald Eagle
> The Wall Street Journal     06/16/2010 -- By Daniel Michaels
>
> If Robert Musters had his way, Chesley Sullenberger wouldn't be a
> celebrity... Mr. Musters wants to chase geese away from busy air lanes
> with his robotic bald eagle. He also has a radio-controlled falcon to
> scare off smaller birds.
>
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704324304575306541506554802.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsTop
>
> Article includes photo and video clip.  Very cool

This is cool.  I think the technology has promise.  I think it needs more
automation so there is less piloting involved.

  They use real raptors for bird control, but there is a problem.  "He
notes that some real falcons patrolling airports have inadvertently
become bird-strike statistics themselves. A robot, in contrast, can be
programmed never to enter airplane flight paths."  That must suck^2. 
You loose the trained bird, and you have a mark on your record.

Ride Safe,

Joe


From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 15:12:50 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:12:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Bald Eagle for chasing birds
In-Reply-To: <18068.12.181.211.35.1276698576.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
References: <AANLkTil_JI5G1jys0wbp-wtr50PSlCEdZgN7x7Ue-IQK@mail.gmail.com>
	<18068.12.181.211.35.1276698576.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinSNpY20W1GYa_EFcUMICxN_lRVlZQWMq2xiUKN@mail.gmail.com>

The same thing an be accomplished by the relentless killing of stupid
resident Canada geese outside of the normal autumn and spring
migrations. Kill every single one of the beaked bastards for what they
are, disease-ridden, feces-generating feathered shit bags that destroy
local habitat for ducks and trout. If I let my dog dhit in the local
stream as often as these non-migratory Canada geese do, I'd be in jail
for violating 3,000 health and environmental ordinances.

These are birds whose behavior has been altered solely due to the
stupid activities of man. They are a serious risk to their own
species. They will never be missed. Those who protest this action, or
who think the birds should have access to birth control pills and
poker chips, should be rounded up and sent to re-education camps -- in
Cambodia.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Wed Jun 16 15:26:49 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:26:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Bald Eagle for chasing birds
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinSNpY20W1GYa_EFcUMICxN_lRVlZQWMq2xiUKN@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1294045582.6441911276702009083.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

>The same thing an be accomplished by the relentless killing of stupid 
>resident Canada geese outside of the normal autumn and spring 
>migrations. Kill every single one of the beaked bastards for what they 
>are, disease-ridden, feces-generating feathered shit bags that destroy 
>local habitat for ducks and trout. If I let my dog dhit in the local 
>stream as often as these non-migratory Canada geese do, I'd be in jail 
>for violating 3,000 health and environmental ordinances. 
> 
>These are birds whose behavior has been altered solely due to the 
>stupid activities of man. They are a serious risk to their own 
>species. They will never be missed. Those who protest this action, or 
>who think the birds should have access to birth control pills and 
>poker chips, should be rounded up and sent to re-education camps -- in 
>Cambodia. 

Don't hold back, Jack. Tell us how you really feel! 

John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun 16 15:30:37 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:30:37 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Going Tubless
In-Reply-To: <4C18DB4E.6020909@ptd.net>
References: <4C183D6A.9010705@ptd.net><AANLkTilLeu-lghcRNquoRyZbM4R4nnytANzzCzHRuEhV@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C18DB4E.6020909@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <8CCDB800113C29E-1CA4-E06E@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com>


<<Try $30 to $35 for Ultra heavy duty tubes which weigh a lot.  $12 to 
$17 is a cheapie tube.  For off road riders, the ability to continue 
riding on a flat because the tire is still on the bead is pretty 
useful...albeit with a a bit sloppier handling since there is no air in 
the annular space between the product and tire.I came to find out that 
the product has been out for a couple years now and is "approved" for 
off road use only.  That hasnt stopped people who ride street from 
using the product though.  For the most part, what seems to be the 
reaction to the product is that it pretty much stops all pinch flats 
(an off road issue when low pressure riding) but there have been some 
issues with the product sealing.    >>

Looks like a good idea for offroading, but I can't see the value for 
street riders, where heat buildup is a major concern, and pinching is 
not.

A couple of my MX racing friends have been using these for several 
seasons and swear by them for that application. Failures are NOT 
uncommon, though, bu the company stands behind the product well for 
racers.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 15:48:49 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:48:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] I wonder if you pull the string to really start them
	up?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik0E3cZUNwAKiBt2l25q8fLSICGXq4xYSGP6sUa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik0E3cZUNwAKiBt2l25q8fLSICGXq4xYSGP6sUa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimelMILWUtMf9dsymqcgZ1rsTtt27LBlB1Ti96K@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2010/wdw/2/d.htm
> (NWS general impression)
>
> Likely not hairy enough for Jim but kinda matches Ducdude.


Daughter of EDEN. Who was told by the snake. WHAT TO SHAKE!

Dano

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun 16 16:23:03 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:23:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Going Tubless
In-Reply-To: <8CCDB800113C29E-1CA4-E06E@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com>
References: <4C183D6A.9010705@ptd.net><AANLkTilLeu-lghcRNquoRyZbM4R4nnytANzzCzHRuEhV@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C18DB4E.6020909@ptd.net>
	<8CCDB800113C29E-1CA4-E06E@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C18FA67.9020606@ptd.net>

Tom Cutter wrote:
>
> <<Try $30 to $35 for Ultra heavy duty tubes which weigh a lot.  $12 to 
> $17 is a cheapie tube.  For off road riders, the ability to continue 
> riding on a flat because the tire is still on the bead is pretty 
> useful...albeit with a a bit sloppier handling since there is no air 
> in the annular space between the product and tire.I came to find out 
> that the product has been out for a couple years now and is "approved" 
> for off road use only.  That hasnt stopped people who ride street from 
> using the product though.  For the most part, what seems to be the 
> reaction to the product is that it pretty much stops all pinch flats 
> (an off road issue when low pressure riding) but there have been some 
> issues with the product sealing.    >>
>
> Looks like a good idea for offroading, but I can't see the value for 
> street riders, where heat buildup is a major concern, and pinching is 
> not.

My understanding is there is LESS heat build-up....the bead of the tire 
is clamped to the rim by the product due to the high pressure small tube 
inside the casing, thus, tire simply doesnt move again.  The sidewall 
stays where it is, no instantaneous demounting and mounting upon rocks, etc.

The reason I believe is it NOT approved for street, is because if there 
is a catastrophic failure of the small high pressure tube you have 
essentially a complete blowout.  Tube rims dont have that 2-3 mm "edge", 
found on tubeless rims,  which hold/clamps the tire onces the beads are 
seated. 


>
> A couple of my MX racing friends have been using these for several 
> seasons and swear by them for that application. Failures are NOT 
> uncommon, though, bu the company stands behind the product well for 
> racers.

The failures seems to be that they dont seal upon initial installation.  
If you got the install done,  the product seems to be excellent.  And 
yes, company is good about support and help.

Chris Jaccarino


From dbcase at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 16:46:22 2010
From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:46:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Bald Eagle for chasing birds
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinSNpY20W1GYa_EFcUMICxN_lRVlZQWMq2xiUKN@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil_JI5G1jys0wbp-wtr50PSlCEdZgN7x7Ue-IQK@mail.gmail.com>
	<18068.12.181.211.35.1276698576.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
	<AANLkTinSNpY20W1GYa_EFcUMICxN_lRVlZQWMq2xiUKN@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:
> The same thing an be accomplished by the relentless killing of stupid
> resident Canada geese outside of the normal autumn and spring
> migrations. Kill every single one of the beaked bastards ....

But Jack, if we kill 'em now, what will we eat when the grid goes down?

Dave Case

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 17:09:05 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:09:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Bald Eagle for chasing birds
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikiHOFggHVIER-NFItrGKGRpTsBgn1FfjFSzoyJ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil_JI5G1jys0wbp-wtr50PSlCEdZgN7x7Ue-IQK@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTikyJ0zCXwwgAdlhXS-VvcCsqMPG_13O6Eack_pp@mail.gmail.com>

Hollywood actresses.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From crocov502 at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 16 17:17:26 2010
From: crocov502 at yahoo.com (Arla Hile)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:17:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Bald Eagle for chasing birds
In-Reply-To: <18068.12.181.211.35.1276698576.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
References: <AANLkTil_JI5G1jys0wbp-wtr50PSlCEdZgN7x7Ue-IQK@mail.gmail.com>
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From: Joe Dille <joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us>

  They use real raptors for bird control, but there is a problem.  "He
notes that some real falcons patrolling airports have inadvertently
become bird-strike statistics themselves. A robot, in contrast, can be
programmed never to enter airplane flight paths."  That must suck^2. 
You loose the trained bird, and you have a mark on your record.
------

At the Toronto airport, they have a golden eagle among their raptor collection - it's the only North American species large enough to scare off the geese (goldens are larger than balds). Unfortunately, maintaining a falconry program is very expensive. 

At La Guardia, Wildlife Services (USDA) engages in gull shoots twice a year. Tons o' fun. Most of the gull species there figure out that they should head for safer pastures after seeing several of their homies knocked off. One species, for unknown reasons, isn't so sharp, so more of them need to be taken out. 

All the other stuff doesn't work for shit. I was at a demo at BMI when they played alarm calls over a loudspeaker. The birds just stood on the runway like nothing had happened at all. I did experiments shining lasers at birds, again, they didn't even flinch. 

Lethal control is the only thing that works to date. Period. 

Arla



      

From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 17:58:42 2010
From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (hugh mccann)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:58:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Browser add-on 'Stumble'
Message-ID: <AANLkTimcYGqVZmm9C-E-cE_wBULZHl-c68WSNZCM-862@mail.gmail.com>

(On Topic because Food and Motorcycling are selectable interest in stumble)

Caveat Web Browser!

Anyway, if you are adventurous and would like to share neat things on
the web (like Herr Spoon) then you may be interested in

http://www.stumbleupon.com/home/

Now, it is an add-on to a browser, but what you do is select topics
you are interested in -- or mildly interested. I added architecture
and i am no architect, but some of the stuff I Stumble Upon is really
cool.

Then, you rate thumbs up/down. Pretty soon, Stumble aggregates the
"thumbs down" down and the "thumbs up" up to where you are more likely
to find it.

Warning: you can get lost stumbling along and hours/days.



on another note, I also use and implemented at my company

http://www.mywot.com/

"Web of Trust" another neat add-on that evaluates the safety of web
sites before you even go to them.

I use Firefox about 99% of the time. We have been hit by some rough
viruses (like the supposed Anti-virus 2010 hijacking programs) almost
all brought in with IE.


peace and be safe on the inter-series-of-tubes


Hugh McCann
2007 f650GS "Thumper"
Collegeville, PA

From mrmevans at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 19:34:42 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:34:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] PACr Working in Phoenixville?
Message-ID: <AANLkTilbf1zwILK9QncJG-ifG_t3IaFcXOQJBSiC4-72@mail.gmail.com>

Several times a day I pass by the offices of BilCare on Kimberton Road
in Phoenixville - they're just a few doors down from my current
office. Anyway, I always see a blue R1150/1200 R equipped with a
windscreen parked in the BilCare lot - I'm assuming the rider works
there. Is it someone on list? Just curious.

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From honeybrk at dejazzd.com  Wed Jun 16 20:13:44 2010
From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:13:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Food and Riding this Weekend
References: <4C18C4A6.9030903@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <004601cb0d90$6c32a060$4101a8c0@FastHP>

>I have a friend coming into town this weekend, so I have a couple rides
> and meals planned.  In anyone is interested in joining us, let me know.
>
> Friday evening: Jimmy's BBQ, around 7PM.  Possibly Victory afterwards
> for a locally-made beverage (motorcycle questionable).
>
> Saturday afternoon: Vito's for cheesesteak, around noon.  Gotta take her
> to the best! :)  After that, going for a ride to the North and West,
> probably in the general direction of Hermy's.  Might hike a (very)
> little of the Appalachian trail if we get up to Hawk Mountain.
>
> If possible, let me know ahead of time if anyone plans on going.  That
> way I'll try to keep to the schedule. :)

Don't forget the breakfast and antique car games plus at Joanna Furnace. 
Saturday

Marge 


From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 20:39:16 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:39:16 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Bald Eagle for chasing birds
In-Reply-To: <690966.18594.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Dear Arla:

I reached a similar conclusion in an earlier post.

How are you?

Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From motoleo at verizon.net  Wed Jun 16 20:39:15 2010
From: motoleo at verizon.net (Lenny Seidman)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:39:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: You Tube - Opera Company of Philadelphia "Flash
 Brindisi" at Reading terminal Market
Message-ID: <C83EAEB3.19E7D%motoleo@verizon.net>

Pretty neat!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zmwRitYO3w



From crocov502 at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 16 20:52:43 2010
From: crocov502 at yahoo.com (Arla Hile)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:52:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Bald Eagle for chasing birds
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 Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com>:

Dear Arla:
I reached a similar conclusion in an earlier post.
snip


Yes, although you were a bit more forceful and all manly-like about it. 

Me? I'm in hog-heaven because school is out. I'm happily mapping favorite old and soon-to-be-favorite new roads in Oregon and Northern Cal. July is always an excellent time to leave Fresno. 

Arla



      

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 20:58:00 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:58:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Bald Eagle for chasing birds
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	<227358.40177.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinSKkKokCesHSAlYKpNAIEpZKCVQql9wiQFcHrQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Arla:

Is there a bad time to leave Fresno?
-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 21:01:20 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:01:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] An alien creature has been hiding in my gas tank...
Message-ID: <AANLkTinv-N9D1Pj_aRT9YuqxKfj3S2zrrqtf8eIibloO@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues:

An alien creature has been hiding in my gas tank and making horrible sounds.

There is nothing more disturbing than sudden, strange, and persistent
sounds emanating from a motorcycle that usually runs exactly the same
way, day after day, year after year. It is disturbing on two levels:
first because it is a departure from what you have come to expect,
leading one to doubt the stability of the universe; and second as it
is generally the prelude to writing a new chapter in your checkbook.

Hearing a new and peculiar sound from your bike always involves some
measure of disbelief. I remember the first time I ever brought a woman
to organism. She?d been a friend long before she?d been a lover and I
was astounded at the sounds she was apparently capable of making. (I
initially thought I?d broken something.) It is always at the end of a
long day, when I am exhausted to the point of hallucination, that some
strange noise materializes from my bike ? leading me to wonder if I
just imagined it, or if my riding technique has brought the bike to
orgasm. And even then it is normal to go through a period of denial,
either dismissing the sound as a freak occurrence, or reassuring
myself it is something less than $300.

It is never less than $300.

(For more details on the alien in my gas tank please go to:
http://jackriepe.blogspot.com/2010/06/silencing-genii-in-tank.html
Thank you)

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From rdlebout at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 22:54:48 2010
From: rdlebout at gmail.com (Roberts LeBoutillier)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:54:48 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC Ride Thursday
Message-ID: <AANLkTilmzz8b0wqSfMkCMmS17uTTN31sVEXWhxHVUiVO@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.pickledherringpub.com/

Going to North East, Maryland Thursday night for food and blues.
Leaving Exton at 7:00.
RT 30 > RT10 > RT272 > Main Street North East
Will leave 10:00 -11:00
Any takers?




-- 
Bobby LeBoutillier
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From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Wed Jun 16 22:54:59 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:54:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Bald Eagle for chasing birds
In-Reply-To: <690966.18594.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <18068.12.181.211.35.1276698576.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
Message-ID: <4C191E03.5427.2BFC8C1@localhost>



> 
> 
> From: Joe Dille <joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us>
> 
>   They use real raptors for bird control, but there is a problem.  "He
> notes that some real falcons patrolling airports have inadvertently
> become bird-strike statistics themselves. A robot, in contrast, can be
> programmed never to enter airplane flight paths."  That must suck^2.
> You loose the trained bird, and you have a mark on your record. ------
> 
> At the Toronto airport, they have a golden eagle among their raptor
> collection - it's the only North American species large enough to
> scare off the geese (goldens are larger than balds). Unfortunately,
> maintaining a falconry program is very expensive. 
> 
i bet they are expensive.


> All the other stuff doesn't work for shit. I was at a demo at BMI when
> they played alarm calls over a loudspeaker. The birds just stood on
> the runway like nothing had happened at all. I did experiments shining
> lasers at birds, again, they didn't even flinch. 
> 
Yep.  I was around when they installed a very expensive system if air 
nozzels in a hangar.  (Nothing like working under falling poop and 
feathers.)  The system worked for a couple of weeks, then the birds 
moved back in.

> Lethal control is the only thing that works to date. Period. 
> 

Lethal control, or at least fear of lethal control.

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From piechota at argolis.org  Thu Jun 17 00:32:47 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:32:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Food and Riding this Weekend
In-Reply-To: <004601cb0d90$6c32a060$4101a8c0@FastHP>
References: <4C18C4A6.9030903@argolis.org>
	<004601cb0d90$6c32a060$4101a8c0@FastHP>
Message-ID: <4C196D2F.8040609@argolis.org>

Marge Busch wrote:

> Don't forget the breakfast and antique car games plus at Joanna Furnace. 
> Saturday

8am for breakfast sounds awfully early. :)  I may get up there, it'll 
largely depend on Friday night.

From rdlebout at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 00:43:39 2010
From: rdlebout at gmail.com (Roberts LeBoutillier)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:43:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC Riding to Phillies game
Message-ID: <AANLkTim8d07AIRYUZ0z5lc2RpavsOFR0-DHPatg2hTBu@mail.gmail.com>

Is there close parking for motorcycles?
Are there safer places to park?


-- 
Bobby LeBoutillier
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From cjschaffer at verizon.net  Thu Jun 17 01:10:07 2010
From: cjschaffer at verizon.net (C & R Schaffer)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:10:07 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Our strike
Message-ID: <DF6A4FD7F60442F7940E8AB179246FE1@RozCharliePC>

I'm in picture #2 , third one back with the first sign you can read. Notice the black jeans and motorcycle boots because how the heck do you think I got to ACY? There's a TA tonight and we go back to work on Friday. Whew--I didn't want to do any heavy lifting for a living! Thanks for all the private emails supporting us!

Charlie
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From jasiii at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 17 01:08:08 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:08:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Almost a three wheeler
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimU0Dzk0Uwc4_NaFnClfyrgiH30Wiybi2YXd3xs@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C83EEDB8.43EA%jasiii@earthlink.net>

> I suspect with the right front tire for the tires, it could be a three
> wheeler though an so a "bike" FSVOBike.
> 
> http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/photos/gallery#item=125493
> (WS)
> 
> Cool frog.  Dual plugged.  1000HP.  I think it needs wheelie bars just
> in case the rear wheels ever REALLY hook up.  (There is no roll cage
> and a flip would be BAD.)
I like the old Caddie tail lights.. All six of them

And it looks like it has been driven

Jim



From rollybrown at verizon.net  Thu Jun 17 01:44:26 2010
From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:44:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] arf...ooof...
Message-ID: <C86902A3-DD7E-439F-9F1B-D7758D49370C@verizon.net>

just a quick note to thank the many mac-pac'rs who've stayed in touch through this health ordeal. the past ten mos. have been consumed w/ surgeries and other indignities...i got outta hospital today after a third surgery and 7 day stay.

Peter X visited when i was really low, and that helped a lot, along with notes of support from others. other offers have been made for assistance (special thanks to The Two Jims), but i think we have stuff covered...

i still have no idea when i'll be able to ride UnThump again , but that at least seems like a possibility.
again, thanks, and remember to appreciate the gift of good health which allows you to ride powerful machinery!
best, rolly

From cjschaffer at verizon.net  Thu Jun 17 01:57:44 2010
From: cjschaffer at verizon.net (C & R Schaffer)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:57:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Our strike
In-Reply-To: <DF6A4FD7F60442F7940E8AB179246FE1@RozCharliePC>
References: <DF6A4FD7F60442F7940E8AB179246FE1@RozCharliePC>
Message-ID: <1DD0027EC4464B97957CD32AED09787D@RozCharliePC>

Did I forget to attach the pics?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/airlinepilotsassociation/sets/72157624157682007/show/

Charlie

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From: "C & R Schaffer" <cjschaffer at verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:10 PM
To: <Mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Our strike

> I'm in picture #2 , third one back with the first sign you can read. 
> Notice the black jeans and motorcycle boots because how the heck do you 
> think I got to ACY? There's a TA tonight and we go back to work on Friday. 
> Whew--I didn't want to do any heavy lifting for a living! Thanks for all 
> the private emails supporting us!
>
> Charlie
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From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Thu Jun 17 03:01:29 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 03:01:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC Riding to Phillies game
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim8d07AIRYUZ0z5lc2RpavsOFR0-DHPatg2hTBu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1807258385.6757601276743689311.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>



>Is there close parking for motorcycles? 
>Are there safer places to park? 

If you get there early enough you can get parking very close. I have never had an issue with car or bike at any events down there. YMMV 


John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From gary5410 at aol.com  Thu Jun 17 03:17:42 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:17:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen range is in but no gas
Message-ID: <8CCDBE2C8AFA8C2-8D8-8D9E@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com>

  Finally picked up my range...:-)...it was too heavy to move, so I took 
it apart to get it in..........now I have to wait a week for the gas 
company! They wouldn't schedule until I had it in :-(

http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/IMG2297/902960381_ynKkp-L.jpg

From gary5410 at aol.com  Thu Jun 17 03:44:41 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:44:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC]  OT Kitchen range is in but no gas....right link
In-Reply-To: <8CCDBE2C8AFA8C2-8D8-8D9E@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCDBE2C8AFA8C2-8D8-8D9E@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CCDBE68DA69B7F-8D8-90B9@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com>

Right link....last one was just one pic....here is the gallery.......

http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#902960381_ynKkp


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Christman <gary5410 at aol.com>
To: mac-pac-l at jtan.com
Sent: Wed, Jun 16, 2010 11:17 pm
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen range is in but no gas


   Finally picked up my range...:-)...it was too heavy to move, so I 
took
it apart to get it in..........now I have to wait a week for the gas
company! They wouldn't schedule until I had it in :-(

http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/IMG2297/902960381_ynKkp-L.jpg
_______________________________________________
Mac-pac-l mailing list
Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
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From wayne at 2zars.com  Thu Jun 17 10:03:23 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 06:03:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen range is in but no gas....right link
In-Reply-To: <8CCDBE68DA69B7F-8D8-90B9@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCDBE2C8AFA8C2-8D8-8D9E@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com>
	<8CCDBE68DA69B7F-8D8-90B9@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <0jsj16l3rd7ovkmkui446e11ajjlqjq6j9@4ax.com>

 
> They wouldn't schedule until I had it in :-(
>

Know how your mother told you never to lie.  Sometimes you gotta break
the rules.



>http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/IMG2297/902960381_ynKkp-L.jpg

You should be very proud, you've done an excellent job and saved a TON
of money!


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From bmwbradkath at verizon.net  Thu Jun 17 11:58:50 2010
From: bmwbradkath at verizon.net (Bradley Scheirer)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:58:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Brake pad limit
Message-ID: <5B65A9F52AD5497F947D8BEEDA5B5D0F@Sam>

What is the min for brade pads for PA inspection?
Thanks

From Doug at pencader.com  Thu Jun 17 12:18:02 2010
From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:18:02 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda's new "One-Wheeler"
Message-ID: <01a601cb0e17$2451ac00$6cf50400$@com>

Gang,

Check out this slick piece of useful (?) technology by Honda;

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=cuIJRsAuCHQ

Get out an' ride in today's glorious weather,

Doug
'01 1150 GSP
Bear, DE


From jweiss11 at comcast.net  Thu Jun 17 12:56:12 2010
From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:56:12 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC Riding to Phillies game
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim8d07AIRYUZ0z5lc2RpavsOFR0-DHPatg2hTBu@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim8d07AIRYUZ0z5lc2RpavsOFR0-DHPatg2hTBu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F21C979C044E4121B1CEDF4FE17D0A0D@jackde48df08c6>


Is there close parking for motorcycles?
Are there safer places to park?


-- 
Bobby LeBoutillier

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Hi Bobby, 

I go down a fair amount and always park for free on the sidewalk on Darien
St about 3/4 of a block North of Pattison Ave. You will always see 4 or 5
other bikes parked there also. There is safety in numbers. This is directly
across the street from the stadium. 

Go Phils! 

Jack Weiss 


From 321design at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 13:11:41 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:11:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda's new "One-Wheeler"
In-Reply-To: <01a601cb0e17$2451ac00$6cf50400$@com>
References: <01a601cb0e17$2451ac00$6cf50400$@com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinsQpgjwkdfOifrGYRHLsymi3yVTcXSSwOyvfsm@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Doug <Doug at pencader.com> wrote:
>
> Gang,
>
> Check out this slick piece of useful (?) technology by Honda;
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=cuIJRsAuCHQ
>
> Get out an' ride in today's glorious weather,
>


Yea, I could think of a lot of things to do with them.

--
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From piechota at argolis.org  Thu Jun 17 13:17:58 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:17:58 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC Ride Thursday
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilmzz8b0wqSfMkCMmS17uTTN31sVEXWhxHVUiVO@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilmzz8b0wqSfMkCMmS17uTTN31sVEXWhxHVUiVO@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C1A2086.8080500@argolis.org>

Roberts LeBoutillier wrote:
> http://www.pickledherringpub.com/
> 
> Going to North East, Maryland Thursday night for food and blues.
> Leaving Exton at 7:00.
> RT 30 > RT10 > RT272 > Main Street North East
> Will leave 10:00 -11:00
> Any takers?

Can't do it.  Besides that I already used up my 'cheat on the diet' 
token for this week, I have too much to do tonight.  Another time 
though, it sounds like a good plan, blues and food is never a bad thing.

From ephoet at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 13:22:10 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:22:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] An alien creature has been hiding in my gas tank...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinv-N9D1Pj_aRT9YuqxKfj3S2zrrqtf8eIibloO@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinv-N9D1Pj_aRT9YuqxKfj3S2zrrqtf8eIibloO@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilQ9A9PPx_9pFm2nbt49zVHmaV5Gon4k5m7tt3D@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:

. I remember the first time I ever brought a woman to organism.
_______________________________

So Jack;

I hesitate to even ask............

What organism was it?    There are some many to choose from.
And some not so nice...........

Your friend as always

Erik, the Dutchman

From bmwbrian at voicenet.com  Thu Jun 17 13:50:58 2010
From: bmwbrian at voicenet.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:50:58 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Brightening up your morning bacon pancakes
Message-ID: <AANLkTikaPxxKidlHlRAkQd8qMd3aUmVB9X7l6WYZPRPi@mail.gmail.com>

http://bacontoday.com/colored-bacon/

Greg Roberts did you Mom ever make bacon pancakes like this?

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From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 13:56:51 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:56:51 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen range is in but no gas....right link
In-Reply-To: <8CCDBE68DA69B7F-8D8-90B9@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCDBE2C8AFA8C2-8D8-8D9E@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com>
	<8CCDBE68DA69B7F-8D8-90B9@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTims5UvEMJYH3twxRweKsrd2zvAvisLNhG33UJFi@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Gary:

You will have one of the most sophisticated kitchens I have ever seen.
Congrastulations on a job well done and nearly completed.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From mrmevans at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 14:03:16 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:03:16 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Brightening up your morning bacon pancakes
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikaPxxKidlHlRAkQd8qMd3aUmVB9X7l6WYZPRPi@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikaPxxKidlHlRAkQd8qMd3aUmVB9X7l6WYZPRPi@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikQV-7rXveI_jMPYpCu276OeZqCS5MqehYdsV0A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at voicenet.com> wrote:
> http://bacontoday.com/colored-bacon/
>
> Greg Roberts did you Mom ever make bacon pancakes like this?
>

I do not like it Brian Curry,
Get that colored bacon away from here in a hurry.

I felt sick when I saw it
and I have you to thank.
That looked like something
from Reipe's gas tank.

(that's all you get from me at this point in the day and admittedly,
it's not much)

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From ephoet at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 14:36:47 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:36:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] affordable Ducati
Message-ID: <AANLkTimTYFgWzWp2WmIxVan0BLtf69KoSl3jyfnJylth@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.gizmag.com/italtrike-oko-italian-tricycle/15444/

If you?re excited by the new Ducati 1198, but are perhaps a little too
poor or timid to buy one, here?s the next-best thing ? a
top-of-the-line Italian tricycle

(I was especially thinking of Ducdude!)

Erik H
West Chester

From piechota at argolis.org  Thu Jun 17 14:38:31 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:38:31 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Goat Rescue!
Message-ID: <12oxdxk90pny6yoaw7c49esj.1276785332335@email.android.com>

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/17/goat_incident/
NSF Jim

Goat saved from trunk of car in Virginia. 

From ephoet at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 14:42:24 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:42:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Brake pad limit
In-Reply-To: <5B65A9F52AD5497F947D8BEEDA5B5D0F@Sam>
References: <5B65A9F52AD5497F947D8BEEDA5B5D0F@Sam>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinC0EKurT8ZQLaG3NEZYgWgm-3VvQOn3QGkYpKP@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Bradley Scheirer
<bmwbradkath at verizon.net> wrote:
> What is the min for brade pads for PA inspection?
> Thanks
> _______________________________________________

http://tinyurl.com/2vj8vg9

   (7)  Inspect the braking system. Remove at least one front and one
opposite rear wheel and reject if one or more of the following apply:

     (i)   The hydraulic hoses or tubing leaks; is flattened,
restricted, insecurely fastened or improperly retained; or has exposed
cords.

     (ii)   The wheel cylinder leaks, has missing parts, is improperly
retained or is not functioning.

     (iii)   The caliper leaks, has missing parts, is improperly
retained or is not functioning.

     (iv)   The lining is broken; not firmly attached to shoe; or
contaminated with oil, grease or another substance that would affect
proper brake operation.

     (v)   There is mechanical damage other than wear.

     (vi)   The inside diameter of the drum is greater than maximum
diameter stamped on drum or greater than .090 inch over original drum
diameter for unmarked drums.

     (vii)   The disc thickness is less than minimum stamped on
assembly or less than manufacturer?s specifications.

     (viii)   The bonded linings are less than 2/32 inch at the thinnest point.

     (ix)   The riveted linings are less than 1/32 inch above rivet
head at thinnest point.

     (x)   The drums or rotors are scored deeper than .015 inch.

EPH
West Chester

From ephoet at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 14:53:46 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:53:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Goat Rescue!
In-Reply-To: <12oxdxk90pny6yoaw7c49esj.1276785332335@email.android.com>
References: <12oxdxk90pny6yoaw7c49esj.1276785332335@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimAUl6s-NhpFSh1I7Oy-kM_J0augOsM5jIv3LAI@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Matt Piechota <piechota at argolis.org> wrote:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/17/goat_incident/
> NSF Jim
>
> Goat saved from (Hot) trunk of car in Virginia.
> _______________________________________________

The woman claimed it was OK to transport goats in your "boot" in England.

Perhaps so, but it aint typically 110 deg in the trunk like in
Virginia in the summertime..... the officer measured 94 deg F after it
had been open 10 minutes.

I wonder if she keeps her kids back there too.

Erik H
West Chester

From wateredg at interlog.com  Thu Jun 17 15:37:23 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:37:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:  Quickbooks [Details]
References: <4C18D9B2.3010601@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <7E7053BF771E4BD1A228FAFCBBDFBF4F@9200c>

Hello folks,

For those who are curious to know why, "Intuit's Web sites hit by major 
outage":
http://www.zdnet.com/news/intuits-web-sites-hit-by-major-outage/435253?tag=nl.e539

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 16:47:52 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:47:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Quickbooks [Details]
In-Reply-To: <7E7053BF771E4BD1A228FAFCBBDFBF4F@9200c>
References: <4C18D9B2.3010601@ptd.net> <7E7053BF771E4BD1A228FAFCBBDFBF4F@9200c>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinNtqIqxsgVnQhx-uKybyvfpuP-6VhtNgW_nE11@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/17/10, Steve Makohin <wateredg at interlog.com> wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
>  For those who are curious to know why, "Intuit's Web sites hit by major
>  outage":
>  http://www.zdnet.com/news/intuits-web-sites-hit-by-major-outage/435253?tag=nl.e539

Which says that even though you "bought" the program if it can't phone
home, it does not work.  Or they can turn it off easy.

FORCED residual income for them.  Keep it current or it does not work.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 17:03:15 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:03:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now this is TRULY green transport...
Message-ID: <AANLkTinxaJnUX4jB4rBTsJt1kMwgtwsRjPhafH5rOMw_@mail.gmail.com>

Srsly....

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1937229
(WS)

A moving shrub is well and truly GREEN.

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From ephoet at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 17:26:24 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:26:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Quickbooks [Details]
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinNtqIqxsgVnQhx-uKybyvfpuP-6VhtNgW_nE11@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C18D9B2.3010601@ptd.net>
	<7E7053BF771E4BD1A228FAFCBBDFBF4F@9200c> 
	<AANLkTinNtqIqxsgVnQhx-uKybyvfpuP-6VhtNgW_nE11@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilvdryWjvOwFpgFHYKq_Q5lUYuiKOYcSaXEnqQb@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/17/10, Steve Makohin <wateredg at interlog.com> wrote:
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> ?For those who are curious to know why, "Intuit's Web sites hit by major
>> ?outage":
>> ?http://www.zdnet.com/news/intuits-web-sites-hit-by-major-outage/435253?tag=nl.e539
>
> Which says that even though you "bought" the program if it can't phone
> home, it does not work. ?Or they can turn it off easy.
>
> FORCED residual income for them. ?Keep it current or it does not work.
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------

Not only that, one of the selling "features" is that Quicken can talk
to your bank, download you data.
But the box specifically mentions that feature is turned off in about
2 years, forcing you to buy another new Quicken package from them.
Nasty.

The box does NOT mention which banks they can talk to.... many of them
can't or won't.  Including my local credit union.  You then have to go
the older method of downloading a CSV file from your bank, load that
into Quicken manually.

All that said, Quicken should be able work its basic functionality
without having to phone home for "permission".

Creating an invoice should not require Quicken's approval.

Erik H
West Chester
Erik

From crocov502 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 17 17:37:24 2010
From: crocov502 at yahoo.com (Arla Hile)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:37:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Eagle, now Fresno-bashing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinSKkKokCesHSAlYKpNAIEpZKCVQql9wiQFcHrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil_JI5G1jys0wbp-wtr50PSlCEdZgN7x7Ue-IQK@mail.gmail.com>
	<18068.12.181.211.35.1276698576.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
	<690966.18594.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTikEMHEkK5pAC2uQPzq3WIoBH_azXQhByJ46FIL9@mail.gmail.com>
	<227358.40177.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTinSKkKokCesHSAlYKpNAIEpZKCVQql9wiQFcHrQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <98441.69765.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



From: Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com
Dear Arla:

Is there a bad time to leave Fresno?
-- 

Ha! Never heard that one before. :P  Hey, at least there's no snow, and in summer I just hose myself down at gas stations...yes, I get some looks. That trick doesn't work so well east of the Rockies. 



      

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 17:53:22 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:53:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Eagle, now Fresno-bashing
In-Reply-To: <98441.69765.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTil_JI5G1jys0wbp-wtr50PSlCEdZgN7x7Ue-IQK@mail.gmail.com>
	<18068.12.181.211.35.1276698576.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
	<690966.18594.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTikEMHEkK5pAC2uQPzq3WIoBH_azXQhByJ46FIL9@mail.gmail.com>
	<227358.40177.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTinSKkKokCesHSAlYKpNAIEpZKCVQql9wiQFcHrQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<98441.69765.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiksE_llRR3gpTj1gl1LVT-IgGJI-BizYbM8eKHo@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Arla Hile <crocov502 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com
> Dear Arla:
>
> Is there a bad time to leave Fresno?
> --
>
> Ha! Never heard that one before. :P ?Hey, at least there's no snow, and in summer I just hose myself down at gas stations...yes, I get some looks. That trick doesn't work so well east of the Rockies.


Hey! I like that!

I've been wondering how I am going to control cabin temperature on my
ECO ride to Brooklyn MI for the X-Prize knock out rounds (NEXT
WEEK!!).

GAS UP AND RUN THROUGH THE LAWN SPRINKLERS;)

dANO

From ephoet at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 19:39:32 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:39:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] ot innovations-that-rocked-the-world
Message-ID: <AANLkTimkGzEmc4cO4AHNUubw8WkEZa-I5KMxSNyWCQgn@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.newsweek.com/photo/2010/06/15/innovations-that-rocked-the-world.html

Your list of important innovations may vary, but all these items have
affected us one way or another.

EPH
West Chester

From crocov502 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 17 20:46:59 2010
From: crocov502 at yahoo.com (Arla Hile)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:46:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Eagle, now Fresno-bashing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiksE_llRR3gpTj1gl1LVT-IgGJI-BizYbM8eKHo@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil_JI5G1jys0wbp-wtr50PSlCEdZgN7x7Ue-IQK@mail.gmail.com>
	<18068.12.181.211.35.1276698576.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
	<690966.18594.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTikEMHEkK5pAC2uQPzq3WIoBH_azXQhByJ46FIL9@mail.gmail.com>
	<227358.40177.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTinSKkKokCesHSAlYKpNAIEpZKCVQql9wiQFcHrQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<98441.69765.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTiksE_llRR3gpTj1gl1LVT-IgGJI-BizYbM8eKHo@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <617769.27196.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



From: Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com>
Hey! I like that!

I've been wondering how I am going to control cabin temperature on my
ECO ride to Brooklyn MI for the X-Prize knock out rounds (NEXT
WEEK!!).

GAS UP AND RUN THROUGH THE LAWN SPRINKLERS;)
***********************

Well ya better head west, young Dan. Riding in the Eco in a soaking wet riding suit under humid conditions....uh...

Someone needs to come up with something better for riding in humidity. Some sort of ice chest that blows air into your jacket or something. 

Arla



      

From ephoet at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 20:59:42 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:59:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT USB typewriter
Message-ID: <AANLkTim6C5xa-lZTAoucAL82-j9MwPVGjsAGFNgYR070@mail.gmail.com>

yes, a real mechanical typewriter that can talk to your computer
(For your neo-ludditing pleasure, of course.)

Based on a Smith-Corona

Its been outfitted with a USB connection so you can actually use it with your PC
http://www.gizmag.com/usb-typewriter/15435/

Note that the number 1 will be a problem..... as there isn't one.
Number 1 that is.


Only $300 for the completed unit,
http://www.etsy.com/listing/48696850/usb-typewriter-upcycled-smith-corona

Or you can buy a DIY kit so that your favorite mechanical typewriter
can be USB upgraded for a mere 75 clams
http://www.etsy.com/listing/49618017/diy-usb-typewriter-conversion-kit

I can hear Jack typing his blog now......
clack..................clack................................clack..clack..clack....................................

EPH
clacking away in West Chester

From rsorens at comcast.net  Thu Jun 17 21:18:59 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:18:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda's new "One-Wheeler"
In-Reply-To: <01a601cb0e17$2451ac00$6cf50400$@com>
Message-ID: <BC7A392A97344D9082E844D16E1FDADF@Tekki>

>Check out this slick piece of useful (?) technology by Honda;
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=cuIJRsAuCHQ


Yeah, but can you race them????


Rick


From chrisjac at ptd.net  Thu Jun 17 21:29:52 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:29:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Italian Motorcycle Drill Team
Message-ID: <4C1A93D0.7010302@ptd.net>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrLvYrKYVD8

They keep better formation than most marching bands

Chris Jaccarino

From ephoet at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 21:31:05 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:31:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC awareness video
Message-ID: <AANLkTikJs59Hz-YJbv0zWq7V6y6T87f4h-p4fLOC7Dar@mail.gmail.com>

Here's different take on it.

http://blog.motorcycle.com/2010/05/21/videos/motorcycle-awareness-can-you-see-me-now-video/

Motorcycle Awareness ? Can You See Me Now?

"You don't know my name............."

Erik H

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Thu Jun 17 21:38:48 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:38:48 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Quickbooks [Details]
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinNtqIqxsgVnQhx-uKybyvfpuP-6VhtNgW_nE11@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C18D9B2.3010601@ptd.net> <7E7053BF771E4BD1A228FAFCBBDFBF4F@9200c>
	<AANLkTinNtqIqxsgVnQhx-uKybyvfpuP-6VhtNgW_nE11@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C1A95E8.4000404@ptd.net>

Brian Curry wrote:
> On 6/17/10, Steve Makohin <wateredg at interlog.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hello folks,
>>
>>  For those who are curious to know why, "Intuit's Web sites hit by major
>>  outage":
>>  http://www.zdnet.com/news/intuits-web-sites-hit-by-major-outage/435253?tag=nl.e539
>>     
>
> Which says that even though you "bought" the program if it can't phone
> home, it does not work.  Or they can turn it off easy.
>
> FORCED residual income for them.  Keep it current or it does not work.
>
>   

Yup.  That is if you require their connectivity.  If you dont need their 
"Crap", the old versions for keeping books works just fine.  I admit 
though, I was kinda amazed by the fact that to even send out an email 
from the application you have to go through Intuits servers....that's 
pushing it a bit too far if you ask me.

Chris Jaccarino


From chrisjac at ptd.net  Thu Jun 17 21:41:18 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:41:18 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Quickbooks [Details]
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilvdryWjvOwFpgFHYKq_Q5lUYuiKOYcSaXEnqQb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C18D9B2.3010601@ptd.net>	<7E7053BF771E4BD1A228FAFCBBDFBF4F@9200c>
	<AANLkTinNtqIqxsgVnQhx-uKybyvfpuP-6VhtNgW_nE11@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilvdryWjvOwFpgFHYKq_Q5lUYuiKOYcSaXEnqQb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C1A967E.6010007@ptd.net>

Erik Hoet wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> On 6/17/10, Steve Makohin <wateredg at interlog.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Hello folks,
>>>
>>>  For those who are curious to know why, "Intuit's Web sites hit by major
>>>  outage":
>>>  http://www.zdnet.com/news/intuits-web-sites-hit-by-major-outage/435253?tag=nl.e539
>>>       
>> Which says that even though you "bought" the program if it can't phone
>> home, it does not work.  Or they can turn it off easy.
>>
>> FORCED residual income for them.  Keep it current or it does not work.
>>
>> --
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     
>
> Not only that, one of the selling "features" is that Quicken can talk
> to your bank, download you data.
> But the box specifically mentions that feature is turned off in about
> 2 years, forcing you to buy another new Quicken package from them.
> Nasty.
>
> The box does NOT mention which banks they can talk to.... many of them
> can't or won't.  Including my local credit union.  You then have to go
> the older method of downloading a CSV file from your bank, load that
> into Quicken manually.
>
> All that said, Quicken should be able work its basic functionality
> without having to phone home for "permission".
>
> Creating an invoice should not require Quicken's approval.
>
>   

My original post dealt with QuickBOOKs not Quicken. 

Quicken 10, the latest edition of personal financial software, has its 
own problems downloading financial data..which Intuit has known about 
for month but has not fixed it.  Intuit is rapidly losing customers if 
you ask me.


Chris Jaccarino

From Doug at pencader.com  Thu Jun 17 21:46:18 2010
From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:46:18 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda's new "One-Wheeler"
In-Reply-To: <BC7A392A97344D9082E844D16E1FDADF@Tekki>
References: <01a601cb0e17$2451ac00$6cf50400$@com>
	<BC7A392A97344D9082E844D16E1FDADF@Tekki>
Message-ID: <021301cb0e66$86c14fe0$9443efa0$@com>

Rick wrote;

>>> snips

>> Check out this slick piece of useful (?) technology by Honda;
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=cuIJRsAuCHQ


> Yeah, but can you race them????

>>> end

Rick,

. . . wherever you have two or more gathered together, right?

Doug
'01 1150 GSP
Bear, DE


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 21:56:42 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:56:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Eagle, now Fresno-bashing
In-Reply-To: <617769.27196.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTil_JI5G1jys0wbp-wtr50PSlCEdZgN7x7Ue-IQK@mail.gmail.com>
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	<690966.18594.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTikEMHEkK5pAC2uQPzq3WIoBH_azXQhByJ46FIL9@mail.gmail.com>
	<227358.40177.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<98441.69765.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTilzLcrgGL6UvEujzgiUwm5gSrQlrQxRPaLMKHcB@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/17/10, Arla Hile <crocov502 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>  Someone needs to come up with something better for riding in humidity. Some sort of ice chest that blows air into your jacket or something.

Actually your method works not that bad in the East.  I STILL remember
102 degrees in Missouri and "miles to run" I got "fuzzy" before the
tanks were running out.

Remove all paper from the body.  Put hose in the neck opening.  When
water came out both legs we were "done".  Unzip more and more to keep
the drying/cooling going to the end of the tank.  Worked "decent".

Cold looks better on a woman than a man though.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 22:07:24 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:07:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda's new "One-Wheeler"
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinsQpgjwkdfOifrGYRHLsymi3yVTcXSSwOyvfsm@mail.gmail.com>
References: <01a601cb0e17$2451ac00$6cf50400$@com>
	<AANLkTinsQpgjwkdfOifrGYRHLsymi3yVTcXSSwOyvfsm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinGBOW-tNyDDom49ATRbv0eMIAczXM3v8s4avEa@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/17/10, Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Doug <Doug at pencader.com> wrote:
>  > Check out this slick piece of useful (?) technology by Honda;
>  >
>  > http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=cuIJRsAuCHQ

>
> Yea, I could think of a lot of things to do with them.

They would make it easier to get around for Jack.  No weight on his
knees.  Some might think that they were seeing an apparition seeing
Jack move w/o movement apparently "floating" over the floor.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 22:24:09 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:24:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:The Al Qaeda Labor Problem
Message-ID: <AANLkTinfJ8VJSLmE-25yLFUxUDvHMfqUiSQJCh2DdPa6@mail.gmail.com>

Suicide bombers in Britain are set to begin a three-day strike on
Monday ina dispute over the number of virgins they are entitled to in
the afterlife.Emergency talks with Al Qaeda have so far failed to
produce an agreement.

The unrest began last Tuesday when Al Qaeda announced that the number
of virgins a suicide bomber would receive after his death will be cut
by 25% this May from 72 to only 54. The rationale for the cut was the
increase in recent years of the number of suicide bombings and a
subsequent shortage of virgins in the afterlife.

The suicide bombers' union, the British Organization of Occupational
Martyrs, (B.O.O.M.), responded with a statement that this was
unacceptable to its members and immediately balloted for strike
action.

General Secretary Abdullah Amir told the press, "Our members are
literally working themselves to death in the cause of Jihad. We don't
ask for much in return but to be treated like this is like a kick in
the teeth."

Speaking from his shed in Tipton in the West Midlands in which he
currently resides, Al Qaeda chief executive Osama bin Laden explained,
"We sympathize with our workers' concerns but Al Qaeda is simply not
in a position to meet their demands. They are not accepting the
realities of modern-day Jihad in a competitive marketplace".

"Thanks to Western depravity, there is now a chronic shortage of
virgins in the afterlife. It's a straight choice between reducing
expenditure and laying people off. I don't like cutting pension
benefits, but I'd hate to have to tell 3,000 of my staff that they
won't be able to blow themselves up."

Spokespersons for the union in the Northeast of England, Ireland,
Wales and the entire Australian continent stated that the strike would
not affect their operations as "There are no virgins in our areas
anyway".

A strike may not be necessary, however, as the number of suicide
bombings has been decreasing lately. This has been attributed to the
emergence of the Scottish singing star, Susan Boyle. Now that Muslims
know what a virgin looks like, they are not so keen on going to
paradise.

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From jasiii at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 17 22:27:27 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:27:27 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda's new "One-Wheeler"
Message-ID: <30301536.1276813647795.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Honda's new "One-Wheeler"
>
>>Check out this slick piece of useful (?) technology by Honda;
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=cuIJRsAuCHQ
>
>Yeah, but can you race them????
>
>Rick

I have raced Z50 Honda's ... these would (or might) be a step up

Heck get two or more folks together and they would most likely race anything...

These just might be more fun then a Segway when they are going sideways

Jim

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From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 01:37:20 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:37:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda's new "One-Wheeler"
In-Reply-To: <30301536.1276813647795.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <30301536.1276813647795.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinEiJ9wPtsTnfhCSOb5JeVn9S34epD2da9elOIK@mail.gmail.com>

>
> I have raced Z50 Honda's ... these would (or might) be a step up
>
> Heck get two or more folks together and they would most likely race anything...
>
> These just might be more fun then a Segway when they are going sideways
>
> Jim


My 16 yr. old, 6foot tall, son Sky rode his Z-50 to Taco Bell (2
miles) to apply for a summer job today. It does better than a 50cc
scooter, cause there is less of it.

And it's considered a license and insurance exempt 30 MPH max vehicle
by State of NC. Sixteens can ride legally.

Dano

From bmw2ambs at ptd.net  Fri Jun 18 02:07:44 2010
From: bmw2ambs at ptd.net (Hamilton)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:07:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
Message-ID: <A652A3E4B43D418CA4ACDB4261F9DD6C@GatewayDT>

Ever since Sharon rode with a friend who had a navigation system in her car 
she keeps bugging me about how great it would be to have one.  We just got a 
new Subaru Forester (the last one lasted 12 years) and I think she really 
wants one.  Her skills at following directions  or using logic to get from A 
to B are marginal at best.

In the last few days I've seen a number of them advertised in the paper, 
TomTom, Garmin, etc.  I guess prices have come down since they were first 
introduced, but you get what you pay for.  Since this topic has come up here 
before I know there are some experts out there.  The ones I've seen in the 
ads go for $100 to $150.

Is anyone ready to make any recommendations for a not-too-expensive unit 
that would probably make her happy?  Any pitfalls to watch out for?  Any 
web-site that has good information all in one location.  (MC content):  If I 
got one in the next two weeks we could use it on our drive to Oregon for the 
MOA rally.

Bill Hamilton
Saylorsburg, PA
bmw2ambs at ptd.net 



From rsorens at comcast.net  Fri Jun 18 02:12:50 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:12:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <A652A3E4B43D418CA4ACDB4261F9DD6C@GatewayDT>
Message-ID: <76E259F8EB6A4BFDAA0FD829B0FDEB5B@Tekki>

Bill;

The Garmin website has a comparison feature. Lets you pit one model against
others feature, operation, cost.

Check it out....very helpful in making a decision


Rick


From jasiii at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 18 02:16:55 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:16:55 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
Message-ID: <16870337.1276827418084.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
>
>Ever since Sharon rode with a friend who had a navigation system in her car 
>she keeps bugging me about how great it would be to have one.  We just got a 
>new Subaru Forester (the last one lasted 12 years) and I think she really 
>wants one.  Her skills at following directions  or using logic to get from A 
>to B are marginal at best.
>
>In the last few days I've seen a number of them advertised in the paper, 
>TomTom, Garmin, etc.  I guess prices have come down since they were first 
>introduced, but you get what you pay for.  Since this topic has come up here 
>before I know there are some experts out there.  The ones I've seen in the 
>ads go for $100 to $150.
>
>Is anyone ready to make any recommendations for a not-too-expensive unit 
>that would probably make her happy?  Any pitfalls to watch out for?  Any 
>web-site that has good information all in one location.  (MC content):  If I 
>got one in the next two weeks we could use it on our drive to Oregon for the 
>MOA rally.
>
>Bill Hamilton
>Saylorsburg, PA
>bmw2ambs at ptd.net 
>
My wife just loves the Tom-Tom that I bought for her two years ago.

Simple to use .. enter an address and then it tells her where to go.. (so I do not have to)

Hope this helps

Jim

James Sterling III
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'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From bmw2ambs at ptd.net  Fri Jun 18 02:25:33 2010
From: bmw2ambs at ptd.net (Hamilton)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:25:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Perhaps a Trip to Delaware
Message-ID: <3E9BA7A58D7747C28A562EFDD74A5F2D@GatewayDT>

Many, many years ago- like in the 1940's- we had a family vacation in 
Delaware.  I was very young and only vaguely remember being at a fishing 
pier, in the evening, and there were lots of mosquitoes around.  As I grew 
up I seem to remember people referring to the place as Barr's Beach.  Now, 
having grown up in Berks County with a strong PA Deutch accent (my 
Grandmother spoke it fluently) I think it was a mis-pronunciation of Bowers 
Beach which I can find on a Del. map.  I have no idea what is there, but it 
might be a destination.  Looking closer at a map I see that Route 9 in the 
First State is identified as a scenic highway although it looks as though it 
is surrounded by marshland.  This parallels the bay and eventually comes 
near Bowers Beach.

Does anyone know Route 9?  What kind of services might one find- filling 
stations, diners, motels, etc?  What about Bowers Beach?  What is there?  Is 
it a swimming beach or just a place to go?  Your observations are 
appreciated.

Bill Hamilton
Saylorsburg, PA
bmw2ambs at ptd.net 



From wayne at 2zars.com  Fri Jun 18 02:29:34 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:29:34 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <A652A3E4B43D418CA4ACDB4261F9DD6C@GatewayDT>
References: <A652A3E4B43D418CA4ACDB4261F9DD6C@GatewayDT>
Message-ID: <1ill16tfuhfble436uj40cqnbmp1ou6cgt@4ax.com>



>Ever since Sharon rode with a friend who had a navigation system in her car 
>she keeps bugging me about how great it would be to have one.  We just got a 
>new Subaru Forester (the last one lasted 12 years) and I think she really 
>wants one.  Her skills at following directions  or using logic to get from A 
>to B are marginal at best.
>
>In the last few days I've seen a number of them advertised in the paper, 
>TomTom, Garmin, etc.  I guess prices have come down since they were first 
>introduced, but you get what you pay for.  Since this topic has come up here 
>before I know there are some experts out there.  The ones I've seen in the 
>ads go for $100 to $150.
>
>Is anyone ready to make any recommendations for a not-too-expensive unit 
>that would probably make her happy?  Any pitfalls to watch out for?  Any 
>web-site that has good information all in one location.  (MC content):  If I 
>got one in the next two weeks we could use it on our drive to Oregon for the 
>MOA rally.
>

A couple of sites with reviews, the first one has a Buyers Guide.  

http://www.gpsmagazine.com/

http://gpsinformation.net/

The Nuvi 765T gets pretty good reviews and it's $200.  

You need to figure out what features are important. 

Gotta speak the street names.  

Waterproof?

Touchscreen?

Screen size?

Do you want one that has an internal battery?

Bluetooth?

MP3?

I have a pet peeve with GPS's.  If I use google maps on a PC, it
normally gives me two or three routes to pick from.  The GPS gives
your one.  You can tweak it, but it's a PITA.  Also, locating a
destination on a GPS cal be tricky.  With my Garmin, I spek the street
name and often can't find the correct spelling.  


I recently upgraded my work phone to a Motorola Droid.  It has google
map and GPS built in with free traffic!  I may never buy a car GPS
again! 




Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From piechota at argolis.org  Fri Jun 18 02:39:47 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:39:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <A652A3E4B43D418CA4ACDB4261F9DD6C@GatewayDT>
References: <A652A3E4B43D418CA4ACDB4261F9DD6C@GatewayDT>
Message-ID: <4C1ADC73.4000100@argolis.org>

Hamilton wrote:
> Is anyone ready to make any recommendations for a not-too-expensive unit 
> that would probably make her happy?  Any pitfalls to watch out for?  Any 
> web-site that has good information all in one location.  (MC content):  If I 
> got one in the next two weeks we could use it on our drive to Oregon for the 
> MOA rally.

Bill, just about any basic GPS ($100 - up) will get you where you need 
to go.  The Garmin Zumo 205 I have is nearly as basic as you can get, 
but it does include routing (of course), the ability to re-route if you 
miss a turn, estimated time, and voice prompts.  It doesn't read street 
names, it'll say 'turn left 100 feet', but the screen would display 
"Chestnut St." (for example).  Plus, it has a directory of restaurants, 
gas stations, hospitals, etc..  Mine is 3 years old, so I suspect the 
newer models at the same price point have even more.

When you go more expensive, you get the ability to download routes to 
the GPS, traffic display, bigger screens, street name reading, etc.. 
Frankly, I'm not sure how much that extra stuff is 'needed', although 
I've been using my phone as a GPS more lately, which does have traffic 
and that is pretty nice.

Just remember that the device isn't perfect.  Common sense must be 
maintained at all times.


From piechota at argolis.org  Fri Jun 18 02:41:45 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:41:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Perhaps a Trip to Delaware
In-Reply-To: <3E9BA7A58D7747C28A562EFDD74A5F2D@GatewayDT>
References: <3E9BA7A58D7747C28A562EFDD74A5F2D@GatewayDT>
Message-ID: <4C1ADCE9.7070807@argolis.org>

Hamilton wrote:
> Does anyone know Route 9?  What kind of services might one find- filling 
> stations, diners, motels, etc?  What about Bowers Beach?  What is there?  Is 
> it a swimming beach or just a place to go?  Your observations are 
> appreciated.

Jack R., wasn't that the route we took thru Delaware last year with 
Cantwell?

From wayne at 2zars.com  Fri Jun 18 02:44:07 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:44:07 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Perhaps a Trip to Delaware
In-Reply-To: <3E9BA7A58D7747C28A562EFDD74A5F2D@GatewayDT>
References: <3E9BA7A58D7747C28A562EFDD74A5F2D@GatewayDT>
Message-ID: <fhml16p5l4j8dg9oa0sfrpgfh176u71n7h@4ax.com>



>Many, many years ago- like in the 1940's- we had a family vacation in 
>Delaware.  I was very young and only vaguely remember being at a fishing 
>pier, in the evening, and there were lots of mosquitoes around.  As I grew 
>up I seem to remember people referring to the place as Barr's Beach.  Now, 
>having grown up in Berks County with a strong PA Deutch accent (my 
>Grandmother spoke it fluently) I think it was a mis-pronunciation of Bowers 
>Beach which I can find on a Del. map.  I have no idea what is there, but it 
>might be a destination.  Looking closer at a map I see that Route 9 in the 
>First State is identified as a scenic highway although it looks as though it 
>is surrounded by marshland.  This parallels the bay and eventually comes 
>near Bowers Beach.
>
>Does anyone know Route 9?  What kind of services might one find- filling 
>stations, diners, motels, etc?  What about Bowers Beach?  What is there?  Is 
>it a swimming beach or just a place to go?  Your observations are 
>appreciated.
>

I growed up in DE, but I know nothing about Bowers Beach.

http://www.townofbowersbeach.org/


Rt 9, on the other hand, I've driven a zillion times.  Below Delaware
City, gas stations become scarce.  You can always cut over to Rt 13,
which has plenty of services.  If you fill up in New Castle, you
should be able to traverse the entire Rt 9 on a single tank.   Rt 9
will take you past the Bombay Hook National Wildlife preserve, worth a
visit.  Rt 9 is very scenic.  The wetlands provide lots of waterfowl.
Lots of small bridges.  Some curves.  A nice lighthouse near the red
schoolhouse.  

Wait for google maps to switch to street view:

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=101+Birchwood+Dr,+Chalfont,+Bucks,+Pennsylvania+18914&ll=39.406087,-75.589204&spn=0,0.008256&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.406178,-75.589268&panoid=Fhkwyi6Le67fuGGubSbnag&cbp=12,336.49,,0,0.09

If you slab it, Rt 1 is the way to go.   The bridge over the C&D Canal
is AWESOME.  

P.S. Everything in DE is surrounded by marshland.  



Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 02:45:16 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:45:16 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <4C1ADC73.4000100@argolis.org>
References: <A652A3E4B43D418CA4ACDB4261F9DD6C@GatewayDT>
	<4C1ADC73.4000100@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinYSaEMDeiFvLHcKduupKDNPrjS-ThPDgjfFfl_@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/17/10, Matt Piechota <piechota at argolis.org> wrote:
> Hamilton wrote:
>  > Is anyone ready to make any recommendations for a not-too-expensive unit
>  > that would probably make her happy?  Any pitfalls to watch out for?  Any
>  > web-site that has good information all in one location.  (MC content):  If I
>  > got one in the next two weeks we could use it on our drive to Oregon for the
>  > MOA rally.

>  Just remember that the device isn't perfect.  Common sense must be
>  maintained at all times.

Yes, they are like torque wrenches.  A torque wrench will not prevent
you from twisting the fastener to death.  It will just tell you the
twist at which it failed.

One other thing.  There is what you think you want and then there is
what you realize you want after you use one for a bit.  There is a
learning curve.  Kinda like you like the looks of the Ducati and then
after riding one find you don't twist and bend like that any more....

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 02:48:32 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:48:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Perhaps a Trip to Delaware
In-Reply-To: <4C1ADCE9.7070807@argolis.org>
References: <3E9BA7A58D7747C28A562EFDD74A5F2D@GatewayDT>
	<4C1ADCE9.7070807@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikecj58CxIPeaEh9bIuP5qLsa73RiPLxJkuGBz_@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/17/10, Matt Piechota <piechota at argolis.org> wrote:
> Hamilton wrote:
>  > Does anyone know Route 9?  What kind of services might one find- filling
>  > stations, diners, motels, etc?  What about Bowers Beach?  What is there?  Is
>  > it a swimming beach or just a place to go?  Your observations are
>  > appreciated.
>
>
> Jack R., wasn't that the route we took thru Delaware last year with
>  Cantwell?

That is what I was thinking.

http://jackriepe.blogspot.com/2009/11/eight-inches-above-sea-level.html


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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 02:58:01 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:58:01 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Interesting WSJ article on the Gulf Well blow out
Message-ID: <AANLkTinqqXy0wErc19TBFg_dJbd8PiPfhPhRRdNzTGwx@mail.gmail.com>

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704026204575266560930780190.html#
(WS and I don't think you will need a subscription but I could be wrong.)

It is "dated" now, but has IMO substance.

To me it sounds like they kept removing barriers and doing stuff that
each on its own would not give a problem.  But all together....

I have been down that kinda road, and never took out ALL of the
redundancy.  That is STUPID.

One thing I have not said yet, or seen is if there was anyone in BP or
the decision command tree who would get a bonus for early or on time
completion.  If there was, it just might be coloring their judgment.
And that assumes they had a technical clue.  There are "management"
types on the bonus list who now damn little to none about what the are
"deciding on." but most times it "works out" and they look like heroes
and get the MONEY.

In some ways I am reminded of TMI-2.

========
It was a difficult drill from the start.

API Well No. 60-817-44169 threw up many challenges to its principal
owner, BP PLC, swallowing expensive drilling fluid and burping out
dangerous gas. Those woes put the Gulf of Mexico project over budget
and behind schedule by April 20, the day the well erupted, destroying
the Deepwater Horizon rig and killing 11 men.
[OilCrisisLogo]

Government investigators have yet to announce conclusions about what
went wrong that day. The final step in the causation chain, industry
engineers have said in interviews, was most likely the failure of a
crucial seal at the top of the well or a cement plug at the bottom.

But neither scenario explains the whole story. A Wall Street Journal
investigation provides the most complete account so far of the fateful
decisions that preceded the blast. BP made choices over the course of
the project that rendered this well more vulnerable to the blowout,
which unleashed a spew of crude oil that engineers are struggling to
stanch.
============

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From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 03:17:00 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 23:17:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Perhaps a Trip to Delaware
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikecj58CxIPeaEh9bIuP5qLsa73RiPLxJkuGBz_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3E9BA7A58D7747C28A562EFDD74A5F2D@GatewayDT>
	<4C1ADCE9.7070807@argolis.org>
	<AANLkTikecj58CxIPeaEh9bIuP5qLsa73RiPLxJkuGBz_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilI6qHLzJ9k4LClOR_aCcmyuZ8iy6UOiXL9XGDm@mail.gmail.com>

Outside of the last gas station on Rt. 9 in Delaware City, there is no
gas on Rt. 9 once you cross the canal, until you get down past Dover.
The ride is very beautiful. There was one great restaurant down by
Dover, Three Cabelleros, but it is out of business now. Take Rt. 9 to
the end in Dover. Then take Rt. 13 south about 7/10 miles. You will
come upon a sign for North Bowers Beach. Take that left. The road runs
through the marshes for about 3/5 miles. Bear to the right at the end,
and go int town. There are two bars there. The one on the water is a
great place with potent drinks and very good seafood. I have been
there 5/6 times. I have led the group there twice. The link and ride
description are accurate.

It feels good to be quoted by real riders.

http://jackriepe.blogspot.com/2009/11/eight-inches-above-sea-level.html

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West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 03:26:00 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 23:26:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda's new "One-Wheeler"
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGBOW-tNyDDom49ATRbv0eMIAczXM3v8s4avEa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <01a601cb0e17$2451ac00$6cf50400$@com>
	<AANLkTinsQpgjwkdfOifrGYRHLsymi3yVTcXSSwOyvfsm@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinGBOW-tNyDDom49ATRbv0eMIAczXM3v8s4avEa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikxAMde_e6WJCDWFAx8AMy7hm1CEtW47NRTXxjt@mail.gmail.com>

I called a Honda dealer about these today. They do not come with the
women. The dealer advised me to wait for the diesel unit.


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"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 03:38:47 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 23:38:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC awareness video
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikJs59Hz-YJbv0zWq7V6y6T87f4h-p4fLOC7Dar@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikJs59Hz-YJbv0zWq7V6y6T87f4h-p4fLOC7Dar@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimDc57CyrbnYsnjt_NSx4iaHpsMhtimpyzD83t0@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Erik:

So am I supposed to recite this guy's poem at oncoming cars?


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From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 03:42:11 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 23:42:11 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Italian Motorcycle Drill Team
In-Reply-To: <4C1A93D0.7010302@ptd.net>
References: <4C1A93D0.7010302@ptd.net>
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Most of their formations are about how most Italians drive in Rome.
This was an old video. The new one has the Moto Guzzi's they ride on
trailers... Gary Christman's friend is buying them all.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 03:44:24 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 23:44:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT USB typewriter
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim6C5xa-lZTAoucAL82-j9MwPVGjsAGFNgYR070@mail.gmail.com>
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That is the same sound wooden shoes make, as they flee.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From wayne at 2zars.com  Fri Jun 18 10:13:14 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 06:13:14 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Perhaps a Trip to Delaware
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilI6qHLzJ9k4LClOR_aCcmyuZ8iy6UOiXL9XGDm@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3E9BA7A58D7747C28A562EFDD74A5F2D@GatewayDT>
	<4C1ADCE9.7070807@argolis.org>
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>Outside of the last gas station on Rt. 9 in Delaware City, there is no
>gas on Rt. 9 once you cross the canal, until you get down past Dover.

Two Delaware 'facts'.

It's actually pronounced 'DelaWHERE?'

Anything below the canal is known as 'Slower Delaware' 



Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From motorrader at verizon.net  Fri Jun 18 10:24:28 2010
From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 06:24:28 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] R90S Rally Blog by Wayne Thompson
Message-ID: <C0B8BC7D3C2C4201A9980F881F2DC84A@dellfe483b726d>

It was a terrific rally and couldn't be expressed any better than Wayne Thompson's blog below.  I was deeply honored to ride Karl's R90S.
 
http://classicvelocity.squarespace.com 


I'm off in a few minutes heading for the "Festival of the Fives Rally" in Seneca Rocks,WV.
Once again riding one of Karl's classics, his newly restored and much admired, '71 R75/5.
I can't express how thankful I am to be riding these beautiful machines.  The weather looks good, I should be smiling the whole way.

More later.

Ride 'em Don't Hide 'em,
Todd Trumbore


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From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Fri Jun 18 10:24:23 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 06:24:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
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> Hamilton wrote:
> > Is anyone ready to make any recommendations for a not-too-expensive
> > unit that would probably make her happy?  Any pitfalls to watch out
> > for?  Any web-site that has good information all in one location. 
> > (MC content):  If I got one in the next two weeks we could use it on
> > our drive to Oregon for the MOA rally.
> 
> Bill, just about any basic GPS ($100 - up) will get you where you need
> to go.  

I agree.  I have two Garmins, an old one (Street Pilot C330) and a 
truly ancient one (GPS IV).  Both get down the road well.  I think 
the cheapest one will do the job.  One thing you may want to check 
out is how the unit mounts to the car.  This is an important feature.

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From piechota at argolis.org  Fri Jun 18 10:52:43 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 06:52:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <4C1B1117.9417.1702D0@localhost>
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	<4C1B1117.9417.1702D0@localhost>
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Joe Dille wrote:
> I agree.  I have two Garmins, an old one (Street Pilot C330) and a 
> truly ancient one (GPS IV).  Both get down the road well.  I think 
> the cheapest one will do the job.  One thing you may want to check 
> out is how the unit mounts to the car.  This is an important feature.

I haven't had any trouble with the suction-cup mounts for my GPS or 
Motorola.  As long as you make sure to have it tight against the 
windshield when you flip the lever, at least.

A couple tips: I've heard GPS devices are the most stolen things in cars 
these days.  I have at least one friend that had his car broken into 
because the mount was visible in the window, even though the GPS wasn't 
inside.  Make sure to put it away if you're going to be away from the 
car for any significant amount of time.  Most devices have the ability 
to set a password, use it. At least that way if someone steals it, it's 
more difficult for them to sell. :)

Also, don't put the GPS in the middle of your windshield right under the 
mirror like I see oh-so-many people do.  I'd think this was common 
sense, but it creates a nice blind spot that way.  Keeping it low either 
in the middle (if someone else is in the car and may want to poke at it) 
or to the left of the wheel works pretty well for me.  High works well 
too if you have a deep dash, or don't have monkey-arms like I do. :)

From Ducdude at verizon.net  Fri Jun 18 11:53:02 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 07:53:02 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] R90S Rally Blog by Wayne Thompson
References: <C0B8BC7D3C2C4201A9980F881F2DC84A@dellfe483b726d>
Message-ID: <56172A9815824E809CFA3B917D042D12@heilveil5e3fdd>


>
>
> I'm off in a few minutes heading for the "Festival of the Fives Rally" in 
> Seneca Rocks,WV.
> Once again riding one of Karl's classics, his newly restored and much 
> admired, '71 R75/5.
> I can't express how thankful I am to be riding these beautiful machines. 
> The weather looks good, I should be smiling the whole way.
>
> More later.
>
> Ride 'em Don't Hide 'em,
> Todd Trumbore
>


See you there Todd!  I am leaving in a few and should be there around 
1900hrs or so via the back way...I am staying in the cabins at the camp 
ground #40..

Ride safe!

Duc via a /5 


From chrisjac at ptd.net  Fri Jun 18 13:02:30 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:02:30 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <16870337.1276827418084.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <16870337.1276827418084.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4C1B6E66.7090405@ptd.net>

Jim Sterling wrote:
>> Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
>>
>> Ever since Sharon rode with a friend who had a navigation system in her car 
>> she keeps bugging me about how great it would be to have one.  We just got a 
>> new Subaru Forester (the last one lasted 12 years) and I think she really 
>> wants one.  Her skills at following directions  or using logic to get from A 
>> to B are marginal at best.
>>
>> In the last few days I've seen a number of them advertised in the paper, 
>> TomTom, Garmin, etc.  I guess prices have come down since they were first 
>> introduced, but you get what you pay for.  Since this topic has come up here 
>> before I know there are some experts out there.  The ones I've seen in the 
>> ads go for $100 to $150.
>>
>> Is anyone ready to make any recommendations for a not-too-expensive unit 
>> that would probably make her happy?  Any pitfalls to watch out for?  Any 
>> web-site that has good information all in one location.  (MC content):  If I 
>> got one in the next two weeks we could use it on our drive to Oregon for the 
>> MOA rally.
>>
>> Bill Hamilton
>> Saylorsburg, PA
>> bmw2ambs at ptd.net 
>>
>>     
> My wife just loves the Tom-Tom that I bought for her two years ago.
>
> Simple to use .. enter an address and then it tells her where to go.. (so I do not have to)
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Jim

+2 on the Tom Tom units if all you need is to find an address.  Tom Toms 
are MUCH more intuitive when it comes to typing in an address compared 
to Garmin.

Chris Jaccarino

From Doug at pencader.com  Fri Jun 18 13:36:14 2010
From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:36:14 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Perhaps a Trip to Delaware
In-Reply-To: <3E9BA7A58D7747C28A562EFDD74A5F2D@GatewayDT>
References: <3E9BA7A58D7747C28A562EFDD74A5F2D@GatewayDT>
Message-ID: <024a01cb0eeb$3af1a710$b0d4f530$@com>

Bill wrote;

>>> snips

> Subject: [MAC-PAC] Perhaps a Trip to Delaware

> Many, many years ago- like in the 1940's- we had a family vacation in 
> Delaware.

>>> snips

> I think it was a mis-pronunciation of Bowers Beach which I can find on a
Del. map.

>>> snips

> Does anyone know Route 9?  What kind of services might one find- filling 
> stations, diners, motels, etc?  What about Bowers Beach?

>>> end

Bill,

As my fellow Delawarean, Wayne Woodruff, wrote, there ain't much there
there, but it is scenic, especially if you enjoy the whole marsh
land/coastal plain effect!

Most will pick up Rt. 9 north of Del. City and (if you're coming down DE Rt.
1 you'll get off at Rt. 72 and head east towards the river) where you'll
cross the canal via the Reedy Point bridge. You'll then go through Port Penn
(where you'll make a hard left, then a hard right to stay on Rt. 9), before
heading past Jack Riepe's old haunt, the Augustine Inn, directly across the
Delaware River from the cooling tower of the Salem Nuclear Power Plant
(there's a head shot of Jack on his blog's home page).

Anyway, Wayne is right - ain't no gas until Dover, but it's only 35 miles or
so from Del City, so you'll only need a gallon or so to get it covered.
After you've passed behind Dover and the Air Base, you'll get dumped onto
Rt.1 - a divided highway at that point - where you'll continue south for
several miles before turning left onto Bowers Beach Rd. (Rd. 18) which will
take you directly into Bowers Beach on the Delaware Bay.

Up until about 10 years ago, Bowers Beach was a genuine back-water community
with lots of bungalows and more than a few trailers. Since that time, a lot
of folks came to realize that there was "waterfront" property there in
abundance for cheap. As a result, there has been quite a bit of growth where
folks have put up "beach houses" up on stilts with a nice view of the bay.
It's a nice little area to retreat to, but it ain't no resort area by any
stretch.

Have a great ride and enjoy the weather,

Doug
'01 1150 GSP
Bear, DE


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 13:57:17 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:57:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Reported "K16 RT" photo
Message-ID: <AANLkTim--EYxVi8S4yn7dYT-LMZvAa9gjQ2GKZDqfUz7@mail.gmail.com>

http://2zars.com/mp/2010/06/18/bmw-k16-spy-photo/

Coutesy of "Little Bob" Atkinson and Harv Read.  Continuing develoment
of the biggest and baddest tourer.  Meanwhile there seems to be a
movement to smaller and lighter as the aged and infirm riders find the
tanks harder to deal with.

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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Brian Curry          |      Is Getting Old, Getting Old?
"DEERsSLAYER"        |      Aging Factors Can be Stopped
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Chester Springs PA   |      http://www.nsevideos.com

From ephoet at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 14:00:47 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:00:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC awareness video
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimDc57CyrbnYsnjt_NSx4iaHpsMhtimpyzD83t0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikJs59Hz-YJbv0zWq7V6y6T87f4h-p4fLOC7Dar@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTimDc57CyrbnYsnjt_NSx4iaHpsMhtimpyzD83t0@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Erik:
>
> So am I supposed to recite this guy's poem at oncoming cars?
>
>
> --
> Fondest regards,
> Jack

Jack, no clue

"You don't know my name............but my friends will know your
name............ and you don't want my friends to know yours"

I'm not sure what to make of this MC Awareness video.
Sounds more like a threat to sic the Pagans on them.

Or worse, yet, the Mac-Pac.

Not real sure how this video helps....

Erik

From ephoet at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 13:55:40 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:55:40 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT USB typewriter
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilAUIt93PAEiNIi7oNWy4UJuigLZblBXK4DhIXa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim6C5xa-lZTAoucAL82-j9MwPVGjsAGFNgYR070@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTilAUIt93PAEiNIi7oNWy4UJuigLZblBXK4DhIXa@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:

> That is the same sound wooden shoes make, as they flee.
>
> --
> Fondest regards,
> Jack
> The Lindbergh Baby


Actually that sound of wooden shoes is better described as a "clomp"
(pronounced "kl?mp" )

Hence the Dutch name for them, "klompen"   Much more onomatopoeic than
the banal english "wooden shoes".

http://www.answers.com/topic/clomp

And there is the famous song too:

These klompen are made for clomping, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these klompen are gonna clomp all over you.

Erik the Dutchman

From wayne at 2zars.com  Fri Jun 18 14:10:54 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:10:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <4C1B4FFB.1040500@argolis.org>
References: <A652A3E4B43D418CA4ACDB4261F9DD6C@GatewayDT>
	<4C1B1117.9417.1702D0@localhost> <4C1B4FFB.1040500@argolis.org>
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>
> I haven't had any trouble with the suction-cup mounts for my GPS or
> Motorola. ?As long as you make sure to have it tight against the
> windshield when you flip the lever, at least.
>
> A couple tips: I've heard GPS devices are the most stolen things in cars
> these days. ?I have at least one friend that had his car broken into
> because the mount was visible in the window, even though the GPS wasn't
> inside. ?Make sure to put it away if you're going to be away from the
> car for any significant amount of time. ?Most devices have the ability
> to set a password, use it. At least that way if someone steals it, it's
> more difficult for them to sell. :)

For both of these reasons, I now use a 'bean bag' mount.  It doesn't
leave tell tale spooge on the windshield and keeps the GPS secure.



-- 
Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From ephoet at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 14:16:54 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:16:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Reported "K16 RT" photo
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim--EYxVi8S4yn7dYT-LMZvAa9gjQ2GKZDqfUz7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim--EYxVi8S4yn7dYT-LMZvAa9gjQ2GKZDqfUz7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilydOiBQZrkXxZGjT9J_H6n7Gku_ssnHA0QsBXZ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://2zars.com/mp/2010/06/18/bmw-k16-spy-photo/
>
> Coutesy of "Little Bob" Atkinson and Harv Read. ?Continuing develoment
> of the biggest and baddest tourer. ?Meanwhile there seems to be a
> movement to smaller and lighter as the aged and infirm riders find the
> tanks harder to deal with.
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------

About time, the LT is due for a makeover.

More here, but likely should be called a K1600.
The K16 was something else, some sort of 450 dirtbike

http://bmwsporttouring.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=609575
http://www.daidalgas.com/wp/bmw-k1600-lt/  (Its in Italian, what can I say?)

Though this one looks pretty neat
http://www.motodesign.org/bmw-k1600-lt/bmw-k1600-lt_1/

Info derived from
http://www.tourenfahrer.de/index.php?id=3130  (and yes, its in German)

EPH

From rys at R2Controls.com  Fri Jun 18 14:22:11 2010
From: rys at R2Controls.com (Rick Rys)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:22:11 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <4C1B4FFB.1040500@argolis.org>
References: <A652A3E4B43D418CA4ACDB4261F9DD6C@GatewayDT>	<4C1B1117.9417.1702D0@localhost>
	<4C1B4FFB.1040500@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <012501cb0ef1$a4b05d80$ee111880$@com>

Matt mentioned theft.  One nasty scheme I heard was: to go to major sporting
events, watch for a wealthy older couple to park (someone with no kids at
home), steal the GPS and the garage door opener, press the find home button
and show up at the home with truck ready to unload the whole place.

Rick Rys 2006 R1200 GSA



From piechota at argolis.org  Fri Jun 18 14:30:10 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:30:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <012501cb0ef1$a4b05d80$ee111880$@com>
References: <A652A3E4B43D418CA4ACDB4261F9DD6C@GatewayDT>
	<4C1B1117.9417.1702D0@localhost>	<4C1B4FFB.1040500@argolis.org>
	<012501cb0ef1$a4b05d80$ee111880$@com>
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Rick Rys wrote:
> Matt mentioned theft.  One nasty scheme I heard was: to go to major sporting
> events, watch for a wealthy older couple to park (someone with no kids at
> home), steal the GPS and the garage door opener, press the find home button
> and show up at the home with truck ready to unload the whole place.

I've heard that one too.  I'm not sure if it's an urban legend or not, 
but it makes a pretty good argument for setting a start-up password on 
the device.  And locking the garage -> house door. :)

On a similar note, keeping a house or car key in you wallet, if lost, 
gives a ne'er-do-well your address (Driver's License) and access.

From ephoet at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 14:25:36 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:25:36 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Interesting WSJ article on the Gulf Well blow out
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinqqXy0wErc19TBFg_dJbd8PiPfhPhRRdNzTGwx@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinqqXy0wErc19TBFg_dJbd8PiPfhPhRRdNzTGwx@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704026204575266560930780190.html#
> (WS and I don't think you will need a subscription but I could be wrong.)
>
> It is "dated" now, but has IMO substance.
>
> To me it sounds like they kept removing barriers and doing stuff that
> each on its own would not give a problem. ?But all together....
>
> I have been down that kinda road, and never took out ALL of the
> redundancy. ?That is STUPID.
>
> One thing I have not said yet, or seen is if there was anyone in BP or
> the decision command tree who would get a bonus for early or on time
> completion. ?If there was, it just might be coloring their judgment.
> And that assumes they had a technical clue. ?There are "management"
> types on the bonus list who now damn little to none about what the are
> "deciding on." but most times it "works out" and they look like heroes
> and get the MONEY.
>
> In some ways I am reminded of TMI-2.
>
> ========

This article from CNN, recounting the initial blast on the rig, is chilling.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/18/oil.rig.explosion/index.html?hpt=T1

Money?  It was costing BP upwards of a million bucks a day to drill.
That's a tremendous incentive to take short cuts and "git er
done".....

Sounds likes its costing more than a million bucks a day now.....

Erik

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Fri Jun 18 14:34:09 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:34:09 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Reported 'K16 RT' photo
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilydOiBQZrkXxZGjT9J_H6n7Gku_ssnHA0QsBXZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim--EYxVi8S4yn7dYT-LMZvAa9gjQ2GKZDqfUz7@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <23895.12.181.211.35.1276871649.squirrel@12.181.211.35>

> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://2zars.com/mp/2010/06/18/bmw-k16-spy-photo/
>>
>> Coutesy of "Little Bob" Atkinson and Harv Read. ?Continuing develoment
>> of the biggest and baddest tourer. ?Meanwhile there seems to be a
>> movement to smaller and lighter as the aged and infirm riders find the
>> tanks harder to deal with.
>>
>> --
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> About time, the LT is due for a makeover.
>
> More here, but likely should be called a K1600.

My first factory built car was 1600cc.  Nuf said.

On the other hand, perfect for a sidecar...

Ride Safe,

Joe


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 14:15:18 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:15:18 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Perhaps a Trip to Delaware
In-Reply-To: <3ghm16tpgrttr81e88rmf81bi81mfib1gt@4ax.com>
References: <3E9BA7A58D7747C28A562EFDD74A5F2D@GatewayDT>
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On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:13 AM, Wayne Woodruff <wayne at 2zars.com> wrote:
>>Outside of the last gas station on Rt. 9 in Delaware City, there is no
>>gas on Rt. 9 once you cross the canal, until you get down past Dover.
>
> Two Delaware 'facts'.

And it has "New-Ark" which is different from "New-erk" in NJ.  (Says
the guy who had a roomate with a girl friend in New-erk and would they
would make the New-Ark to New-erk run and vice versa.)

> It's actually pronounced 'DelaWHERE?'
>
> Anything below the canal is known as 'Slower Delaware'

Those living below it were the Down Staters

Those below the Mispillion river are the Down Homers.

Yes, I am a "Fighting Blue Hen" like Chris Christie.


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From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Fri Jun 18 14:38:17 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:38:17 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <012501cb0ef1$a4b05d80$ee111880$@com>
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> Matt mentioned theft.  One nasty scheme I heard was: to go to major
> sporting
> events, watch for a wealthy older couple to park (someone with no kids at
> home), steal the GPS and the garage door opener, press the find home
> button
> and show up at the home with truck ready to unload the whole place.
>
>
That would be a good reason to make your "home" using the neighbor's
address.  Perhaps use the one that is 2-3 doors down and has the dog that
barks all night.  In any case, you could still use it to get home, but
they could not use it to get to "your" home.

Ride Safe,

Joe


From mrmevans at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 15:35:33 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:35:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:Microsoft Office 2010
Message-ID: <AANLkTimxTtzQraAK5NWDd3QGMn71s-ut1DEPGSqAOxUq@mail.gmail.com>

OK IT folks and those in the know.

I need to pick up a copy of Microsoft Office for one of my machines
and I see that Office 2010 is out.

Here in the real world (outside of Redmond, WA) there are still plenty
of compatibility issues with Office '03 users and Office '07 users.

Any insight on Office 2010? File format changes? Did they invent the
next version of the "Ribbon"? I'm sure if I look around online I can
still get a deal on a copy of Office '07.

- Michael Evans

-- 
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Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 15:46:08 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:46:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:Microsoft Office 2010
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimxTtzQraAK5NWDd3QGMn71s-ut1DEPGSqAOxUq@mail.gmail.com>
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Michael,
We got Office 2007 last year and ran into the backward compatibility
problem from day one. I then set the 'save' default to be compatible
to Office 2003. You're going to have that problem with 2010 as well,
but only if you are sharing documents with those who haven't upgraded
to 2007. I'm finding that there are fewer of our clients that have
versions back that far, so when we do upgrade to 2010 they're SOL
unless they request a compatible version.
My 2 cents,
Michael

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Michael Evans <mrmevans at gmail.com> wrote:
> OK IT folks and those in the know.
>
> I need to pick up a copy of Microsoft Office for one of my machines
> and I see that Office 2010 is out.
>
> Here in the real world (outside of Redmond, WA) there are still plenty
> of compatibility issues with Office '03 users and Office '07 users.
>
> Any insight on Office 2010? File format changes? Did they invent the
> next version of the "Ribbon"? I'm sure if I look around online I can
> still get a deal on a copy of Office '07.
>
> - Michael Evans
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA
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From ephoet at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 15:47:51 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:47:51 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Perhaps a Trip to Delaware
In-Reply-To: <3ghm16tpgrttr81e88rmf81bi81mfib1gt@4ax.com>
References: <3E9BA7A58D7747C28A562EFDD74A5F2D@GatewayDT>
	<4C1ADCE9.7070807@argolis.org> 
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On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:13 AM, Wayne Woodruff <wayne at 2zars.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Outside of the last gas station on Rt. 9 in Delaware City, there is no
>>gas on Rt. 9 once you cross the canal, until you get down past Dover.
>
> Two Delaware 'facts'.
>
> It's actually pronounced 'DelaWHERE?'
>
> Anything below the canal is known as 'Slower Delaware'
>

> _______________________________________________

I've always heard it referred to as "slower, lower" Delaware

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slower+lower
http://www.slowerlowerdelaware.com/

I will note that the slowness is quite heavily enforced....
http://www.delmarvanow.com/article/20100608/DW01/6080301/Speeding-doesn-t-fly-in-Slower-Lower

Erik H

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Fri Jun 18 15:49:15 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:49:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Motorcycle Insurance.......Dairyland
Message-ID: <4C1B957B.1020909@ptd.net>

Swwwwwwwwweeeet!  Dairyland Insurance.

Here's the deal.  I currently have Progressive Insurance.  I added 
another bike this week to my bike stable....for the record its a 2007 
KTM 950 Super Enduro R....and thus had to add it to my insurance 
policy.  So Progressive adds more dollars to my policy...naturally.  So 
I go looking for "broadform coverage" from another insurer and come to 
Dairyland. 

If you want only liability coverage on your bikes and have multiple 
bikes it simply makes sense for you to obtain broadform coverage...it 
will cover any bike you own or ride for liability only no matter how 
many bikes you own.  Buy another bike, its added automatically.  Buy 2 
more, they are added automatically.  Again, its only for liability coverage.

Example...on my liability only bikes for Bodily Injury with 250/500/100K 
coverage and pedestrian first party of 5K...its $90.90 per year TOTAL 
for no matter how many bikes I have.   I dont  keep un and underinsured 
motorist on liability coverage only bikes.   That same coverage was 
costing me about $305 with Progressive.  Kaching, a set of  tires paid for.

And the Goldwing is also cheaper to insure at Dairyland by about $30 
compared to Progressive for same coverage. 

Dairyland also include "Excursion Diversion" (gear damage), accessory 
coverage and rental bike reimbursement for full coverage policies. 

So I say..........exceeeeeeeeeelent!  Provided there are no "weirdo" 
clauses in the actual contract documents (which they wont send until you 
write a policy with them).  Looks like I am switching to Dairyland.



Chris Jaccarino



From ephoet at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 15:56:10 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:56:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:Microsoft Office 2010
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimtRrDjJnDtdpzRGZau9CqZ2bRvgiISSVdKBxo3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimxTtzQraAK5NWDd3QGMn71s-ut1DEPGSqAOxUq@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTimtRrDjJnDtdpzRGZau9CqZ2bRvgiISSVdKBxo3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimOlPMwWRm3eyBLRU9q5F80E2DO6yFZhRjoB2i5@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Michael Cantwell <mjcantwe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Michael,
> We got Office 2007 last year and ran into the backward compatibility
> problem from day one. I then set the 'save' default to be compatible
> to Office 2003. You're going to have that problem with 2010 as well,
> but only if you are sharing documents with those who haven't upgraded
> to 2007. I'm finding that there are fewer of our clients that have
> versions back that far, so when we do upgrade to 2010 they're SOL
> unless they request a compatible version.
> My 2 cents,
> Michael
>


Sounds like clients who don't bother to update their PC's.....
MS did offer a compatibility update that permits Office 2003 to open docx files.

If you use 2010 or 2007 only features, that may be an issue.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=941b3470-3ae9-4aee-8f43-c6bb74cd1466&displaylang=en

Be advised that new versions of Office, (2007 and up) will refuse to
even recognize very old file formats.  (Lotus wk1 files as one
example)
MS "claims" they are a security problem.

Erik H
West Chester

From ephoet at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 16:20:26 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:20:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RTW
Message-ID: <AANLkTin74tLB630JgzORiDfYAYVqMYn8FVkm53wiZrXA@mail.gmail.com>

Don't forget Monday is the annual Ride to Work day!  -  EPH

http://www.ridetowork.org/

>From the website press release:

Largest Annual Motorcycle and Scooter Ride To Work Day Expected on
Monday, June 21st, 2010

This year more riders are finding cycles and scooters to be an
economical, efficient and fun way to commute. Because of this, the
19th annual worldwide Ride to Work Day is expected to be one of the
largest-ever, according to Ride to Work, the non-profit organization
that coordinates this annual event.

In the United States, over eighty million cars and light trucks are
used for daily commuting, and about 200,000 motorcycles and scooters
are a regular part of this mix. On Ride to Work Day, the practical
side of riding becomes more visible as a large number of America's
8,000,000 cycles and scooters are ridden to work.

Ride to Work Day helps demonstrate how these vehicles make parking
easier and help traffic flow better. Studies have shown that across
equal distances, commuting motorcyclists reach their destinations in
less time than those using automobiles, and that motorcycles and
scooters consume less resources per mile, and that they take up less
space on roads.

Motorcycle and scooter riders seek improved employer recognition and
support for this form of transportation, and more public and
government awareness of the positive value of riding.

From tpcutter at aol.com  Fri Jun 18 16:39:01 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:39:01 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <25439.12.181.211.35.1276871897.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
References: <A652A3E4B43D418CA4ACDB4261F9DD6C@GatewayDT>	<4C1B1117.9417.1702D0@localhost><4C1B4FFB.1040500@argolis.org>
	<012501cb0ef1$a4b05d80$ee111880$@com>
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Message-ID: <8CCDD1BE448EA5E-B78-D8A0@webmail-m026.sysops.aol.com>


> Matt mentioned theft.  One nasty scheme I heard was: to go to major> 
sporting> events, watch for a wealthy older couple to park (someone 
with no kids at> home), steal the GPS and the garage door opener, press 
the find home> button> and show up at the home with truck ready to 
unload the whole place.>>That would be a good reason to make your 
"home" using the neighbor'saddress.  Perhaps use the one that is 2-3 
doors down and has the dog thatbarks all night.  In any case, you could 
still use it to get home, butthey could not use it to get to "your" 
home.>>

Urban legends. I love them. Steal my wife's GPS and hit home. Open my 
garage door and get a .357 caliber surprise. People often have other 
family at "Home." That's why we call it home.

But the legend helps to instill an undefined fear of various 
"boogeymen." Great for the insurance racketeers, alarm and security 
system salespeople, locksmiths, etc.

Anybody stupid enough to leave an expensive and easily concealable 
electronic device sitting on the dashboard of their car or motorcycle 
better make peace with the fact that somebody will eventually walk off 
with it.

--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From wateredg at interlog.com  Fri Jun 18 16:39:24 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:39:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:Microsoft Office 2010
References: <AANLkTimxTtzQraAK5NWDd3QGMn71s-ut1DEPGSqAOxUq@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimtRrDjJnDtdpzRGZau9CqZ2bRvgiISSVdKBxo3@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimOlPMwWRm3eyBLRU9q5F80E2DO6yFZhRjoB2i5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2B03520A008A4C5B971E7B48CBF8EE21@9200c>

Hello all,

From: "Erik Hoet" <ephoet at gmail.com>

> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Michael Cantwell <mjcantwe at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> Michael,
>> We got Office 2007 last year and ran into the backward compatibility
>> problem from day one. I then set the 'save' default to be compatible
>> to Office 2003. You're going to have that problem with 2010 as well,
>> but only if you are sharing documents with those who haven't upgraded
>> to 2007. I'm finding that there are fewer of our clients that have
>> versions back that far, so when we do upgrade to 2010 they're SOL
>> unless they request a compatible version.
>> My 2 cents,
>> Michael
>
> Sounds like clients who don't bother to update their PC's.....
> MS did offer a compatibility update that permits Office 2003 to open docx 
> files.
>
> If you use 2010 or 2007 only features, that may be an issue.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=941b3470-3ae9-4aee-8f43-c6bb74cd1466&displaylang=en
>
> Be advised that new versions of Office, (2007 and up) will refuse to
> even recognize very old file formats.  (Lotus wk1 files as one
> example)
> MS "claims" they are a security problem.

Just my 2-cents...

I make my living on my computer. I'm a contract consultant and information 
systems guy. I run XP Pro SP3, and my machine is meticulously maintained 
because, well, I make my living on it.

I have not upgraded my OS to Vista or Windows 7 because they offer no 
benefit to me, and only a bagful of hardship. Similarly, I use Office 2003 
because it does what I need to do very well, and I don't need the new 
"features" (and steep learning curve) found in the newer versions of Office.

I have the Office 2007 Compatibility Pack installed, which allows me to read 
and write 2007 documents. Occasionally when I get a document, I don't get 
the features that are exclusive to the newer version of Office, such as 4+ 
more conditional formats on a cell (Office 2003 supports only 3). So far, it 
hasn't been a problem for me.

With each new version of MS Office, support for older files becomes more 
dodgy. For a time, Office 2003 would not open Word 5.1a documents I created 
on my Mac over 15 years ago. This was for "security" reasons, according to 
MS, but they subsequently released a registry updater that reversed this 
philosophy.

You gotta do what's right for you. That may mean doing what's right for your 
customers and/or for the people you work with. I've been fortunate being 
able to skip arguable the most heinous user interface in recent memory, 
Office 2007 and it's Ribbon.

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada


From tpcutter at aol.com  Fri Jun 18 16:43:12 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:43:12 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTincLMAlS42zfw_gvbmEuwBnJhHo5xdA-To61Yyp@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A652A3E4B43D418CA4ACDB4261F9DD6C@GatewayDT><4C1B1117.9417.1702D0@localhost>
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Message-ID: <8CCDD1C79946616-B78-D967@webmail-m026.sysops.aol.com>


<<> A couple tips: I've heard GPS devices are the most stolen things in 
cars> these days. ?I have at least one friend that had his car broken 
into> because the mount was visible in the window, even though the GPS 
wasn't> inside. ?Make sure to put it away if you're going to be away 
 from the> car for any significant amount of time. ?Most devices have 
the ability> to set a password, use it. At least that way if someone 
steals it, it's> more difficult for them to sell. :)For both of these 
reasons, I now use a 'bean bag' mount.  It doesn'tleave tell tale 
spooge on the windshield and keeps the GPS secure. >>

Buy a box of .357 Magnum Hydrashock ammunition. Empty out the box. 
(Give me the ammo,you'll just hurt yourselves with it, and the noise 
hurts your ears.)

Put a piece of wood in the box, and stick the box in the corner of the 
dashboard by the windshield.

Voila! You have a security system every slimebag understands. They are 
humans, play to THEIR fears, don't  give them a tempting challenge.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 16:54:02 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:54:02 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Luck for a good weekend
Message-ID: <AANLkTinw86VxpjD6xHSlneXpF5582wNh0RjM_k3IIMEA@mail.gmail.com>

Some of the luckiest people in the world:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKcFPnS9r8Y
(WS, good sound track  Dirty Harry would have had a field day.)

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 16:55:50 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:55:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: AMAZING pin-ups
Message-ID: <AANLkTiknPvu4b6OcSGPS68F6x5EkVFrTOn4sdg7Mltki@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.ufunk.net/en/humour/eizo-pin-up-calendar-2010-le-nu-plus-quintegral/
(WS REALLY!!!)

Interesting taking whole body X-rays and keeping them "sharp" or there
is some other trickery going on.  Still NEAT.

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From lore724 at aol.com  Fri Jun 18 16:57:22 2010
From: lore724 at aol.com (lore724 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:57:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <8CCDD1BE448EA5E-B78-D8A0@webmail-m026.sysops.aol.com>
References: <A652A3E4B43D418CA4ACDB4261F9DD6C@GatewayDT>	<4C1B1117.9417.1702D0@localhost><4C1B4FFB.1040500@argolis.org><012501cb0ef1$a4b05d80$ee111880$@com><25439.12.181.211.35.1276871897.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
	<8CCDD1BE448EA5E-B78-D8A0@webmail-m026.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CCDD1E743CCE14-145C-112F@webmail-d024.sysops.aol.com>



Urban legend it is not.  I have professional experience in my locale (Ann Arbor area) on several occasions.

Dave Strauss





-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com>
To: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us; rys at r2controls.com
Cc: mac-pac-l at jtan.com
Sent: Fri, Jun 18, 2010 12:39 pm
Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System



 Matt mentioned theft.  One nasty scheme I heard was: to go to major> 
porting> events, watch for a wealthy older couple to park (someone 
ith no kids at> home), steal the GPS and the garage door opener, press 
he find home> button> and show up at the home with truck ready to 
nload the whole place.>>That would be a good reason to make your 
home" using the neighbor'saddress.  Perhaps use the one that is 2-3 
oors down and has the dog thatbarks all night.  In any case, you could 
till use it to get home, butthey could not use it to get to "your" 
ome.>>
Urban legends. I love them. Steal my wife's GPS and hit home. Open my 
arage door and get a .357 caliber surprise. People often have other 
amily at "Home." That's why we call it home.
But the legend helps to instill an undefined fear of various 
boogeymen." Great for the insurance racketeers, alarm and security 
ystem salespeople, locksmiths, etc.
Anybody stupid enough to leave an expensive and easily concealable 
lectronic device sitting on the dashboard of their car or motorcycle 
etter make peace with the fact that somebody will eventually walk off 
ith it.
-- 
om Cutter
ardley, PA
ttp://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

t's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
?????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo? 
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From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 16:58:33 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:58:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <8CCDD1C79946616-B78-D967@webmail-m026.sysops.aol.com>
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Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleages:

My GPS is on my dashboard (in the car) all the time. It is next to a
rubber severed hand. Nobody ever bothers it. Home on my GPS is the
local hangout for the Pagans.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Fri Jun 18 17:02:07 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:02:07 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Motorcycle Insurance.......Dairyland
In-Reply-To: <4C1B957B.1020909@ptd.net>
References: <4C1B957B.1020909@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <4C1BA68F.4070801@ptd.net>

Chris wrote:
> Swwwwwwwwweeeet!  Dairyland Insurance.
>
> Here's the deal.  I currently have Progressive Insurance.  I added 
> another bike this week to my bike stable....for the record its a 2007 
> KTM 950 Super Enduro R....and thus had to add it to my insurance 
> policy.  So Progressive adds more dollars to my policy...naturally.  So 
> I go looking for "broadform coverage" from another insurer and come to 
> Dairyland. 
>
> If you want only liability coverage on your bikes and have multiple 
> bikes it simply makes sense for you to obtain broadform coverage...it 
> will cover any bike you own or ride for liability only no matter how 
> many bikes you own.  Buy another bike, its added automatically.  Buy 2 
> more, they are added automatically.  Again, its only for liability coverage.
>
> Example...on my liability only bikes for Bodily Injury with 250/500/100K 
> coverage and pedestrian first party of 5K...its $90.90 per year TOTAL 
> for no matter how many bikes I have.   I dont  keep un and underinsured 
> motorist on liability coverage only bikes.   That same coverage was 
> costing me about $305 with Progressive.  Kaching, a set of  tires paid for.
>
> And the Goldwing is also cheaper to insure at Dairyland by about $30 
> compared to Progressive for same coverage. 
>
> Dairyland also include "Excursion Diversion" (gear damage), accessory 
> coverage and rental bike reimbursement for full coverage policies. 
>
> So I say..........exceeeeeeeeeelent!  Provided there are no "weirdo" 
> clauses in the actual contract documents (which they wont send until you 
> write a policy with them).  Looks like I am switching to Dairyland.
>
>
>
> Chris Jaccarino
>
>   


Ok, I switched.  If you are gonna call Dairyland for quotes or whatever, 
I told the agent who helped me, outstandingly I might ad,  I would push 
his name...


Ben Behnke 888-373-6879  X3864

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 16:59:33 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:59:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <8CCDD1E743CCE14-145C-112F@webmail-d024.sysops.aol.com>
References: <A652A3E4B43D418CA4ACDB4261F9DD6C@GatewayDT>
	<4C1B1117.9417.1702D0@localhost> <4C1B4FFB.1040500@argolis.org>
	<012501cb0ef1$a4b05d80$ee111880$@com>
	<25439.12.181.211.35.1276871897.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
	<8CCDD1BE448EA5E-B78-D8A0@webmail-m026.sysops.aol.com>
	<8CCDD1E743CCE14-145C-112F@webmail-d024.sysops.aol.com>
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Dear Dave:

How much stuff did you steal?

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Fri Jun 18 17:04:39 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:04:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <8CCDD1C79946616-B78-D967@webmail-m026.sysops.aol.com>
References: <A652A3E4B43D418CA4ACDB4261F9DD6C@GatewayDT><4C1B1117.9417.1702D0@localhost>	<4C1B4FFB.1040500@argolis.org>	<AANLkTincLMAlS42zfw_gvbmEuwBnJhHo5xdA-To61Yyp@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCDD1C79946616-B78-D967@webmail-m026.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C1BA727.8040008@ptd.net>

Tom Cutter wrote:
> <<> A couple tips: I've heard GPS devices are the most stolen things in 
> cars> these days.  I have at least one friend that had his car broken 
> into> because the mount was visible in the window, even though the GPS 
> wasn't> inside.  Make sure to put it away if you're going to be away 
>  from the> car for any significant amount of time.  Most devices have 
> the ability> to set a password, use it. At least that way if someone 
> steals it, it's> more difficult for them to sell. :)For both of these 
> reasons, I now use a 'bean bag' mount.  It doesn'tleave tell tale 
> spooge on the windshield and keeps the GPS secure. >>
>
> Buy a box of .357 Magnum Hydrashock ammunition. Empty out the box. 
> (Give me the ammo,you'll just hurt yourselves with it, and the noise 
> hurts your ears.)
>
> Put a piece of wood in the box, and stick the box in the corner of the 
> dashboard by the windshield.
>
> Voila! You have a security system every slimebag understands. They are 
> humans, play to THEIR fears, don't  give them a tempting challenge.
>   


LMAO.

Chris Jaccarino

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 17:08:00 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:08:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Getting a fully equipped model inspected could be
	interesting or not
Message-ID: <AANLkTilckhjci5geJvmACgfrjixKNxA7JPnNO0ykF_Uc@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN5PAwc1ns8
(WS)

Threaten the agent and you might get a sticker no matter what.  The
PSP might be upset about disturbing the populace with the accessories.
 Or "threatening" them.  The load limits sound low though.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 17:13:01 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:13:01 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Good way to get solidly stuck where you will have a REAL
	difficult time getting out
Message-ID: <AANLkTimdrkn1wC0-PrXcQ0te8jYqKXAvdLl92eiOSCR1@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5W6T7YdN6g
(WS)

Especially considering the design and build quality of them.

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From bergman at panix.com  Fri Jun 18 17:14:51 2010
From: bergman at panix.com (Mark Bergman)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:14:51 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Motorcycle Insurance.......Dairyland
In-Reply-To: <4C1BA68F.4070801@ptd.net>
References: <4C1B957B.1020909@ptd.net>
	<4C1BA68F.4070801@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <20100618131451.5905d20e@panix.com>

The pithy ruminations from Chris <chrisjac at ptd.net> on Re: [MAC-PAC] Motorcycle Insurance.......Dairyland were:

=>Chris wrote:
=>> Swwwwwwwwweeeet!  Dairyland Insurance.
=>>

	[SNIP!]

=>
=>Ok, I switched.  If you are gonna call Dairyland for quotes or whatever, 
=>I told the agent who helped me, outstandingly I might ad,  I would push 
=>his name...


Hmmm...my insurance is up for renewal...I should check.

=>
=>
=>Ben Behnke 888-373-6879  X3864


Wow! I've heard that government jobs don't pay as well as private industry, but I didn't realize that the Chairman of the United States Federal Reserve would be moonlighting as an insurance salesman. :)

Thanks,

Mark


-----
Mark Bergman    Biker, Rock Climber, Unix mechanic, IATSE #1 Stagehand
'94 Yamaha GTS1000A^2
bergman at panix.com

http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=bergman%40panix.com

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rec.motorcycles.stagehands.pet-bird-owners.pinballers.unix-supporters
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From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 17:24:52 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:24:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:Microsoft Office 2010
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimOlPMwWRm3eyBLRU9q5F80E2DO6yFZhRjoB2i5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimxTtzQraAK5NWDd3QGMn71s-ut1DEPGSqAOxUq@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimtRrDjJnDtdpzRGZau9CqZ2bRvgiISSVdKBxo3@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimOlPMwWRm3eyBLRU9q5F80E2DO6yFZhRjoB2i5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilyrZ8RJPNHJVU1KFXlriFOsiZxbgyo6t9yXvPS@mail.gmail.com>

Scientists (not engineers).

>
> Sounds like clients who don't bother to update their PC's.....
> MS did offer a compatibility update that permits Office 2003 to open docx files.
>

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Fri Jun 18 17:42:46 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:42:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Motorcycle Insurance.......Dairyland
In-Reply-To: <20100618131451.5905d20e@panix.com>
References: <4C1B957B.1020909@ptd.net>	<4C1BA68F.4070801@ptd.net>
	<20100618131451.5905d20e@panix.com>
Message-ID: <4C1BB016.30909@ptd.net>

Mark Bergman wrote:
> The pithy ruminations from Chris <chrisjac at ptd.net> on Re: [MAC-PAC] Motorcycle Insurance.......Dairyland were:
>
> =>Chris wrote:
> =>> Swwwwwwwwweeeet!  Dairyland Insurance.
> =>>
>
> 	[SNIP!]
>
> =>
> =>Ok, I switched.  If you are gonna call Dairyland for quotes or whatever, 
> =>I told the agent who helped me, outstandingly I might ad,  I would push 
> =>his name...
>
>
> Hmmm...my insurance is up for renewal...I should check.
>
> =>
> =>
> =>Ben Behnke 888-373-6879  X3864
>
>
> Wow! I've heard that government jobs don't pay as well as private industry, but I didn't realize that the Chairman of the United States Federal Reserve would be moonlighting as an insurance salesman. :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>   

LOL...I said the same thing to him.  I asked how many people say that to 
him...answer was "not many".  Most citizens of the US have no idea who 
the fed chairman is. 

Chris Jaccarino

From tpcutter at aol.com  Fri Jun 18 18:25:25 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:25:25 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Eagle, now Fresno-bashing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiksE_llRR3gpTj1gl1LVT-IgGJI-BizYbM8eKHo@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil_JI5G1jys0wbp-wtr50PSlCEdZgN7x7Ue-IQK@mail.gmail.com><18068.12.181.211.35.1276698576.squirrel@12.181.211.35><690966.18594.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com><AANLkTikEMHEkK5pAC2uQPzq3WIoBH_azXQhByJ46FIL9@mail.gmail.com><227358.40177.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com><AANLkTinSKkKokCesHSAlYKpNAIEpZKCVQql9wiQFcHrQ@mail.gmail.com><98441.69765.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTiksE_llRR3gpTj1gl1LVT-IgGJI-BizYbM8eKHo@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCDD2AC1816B74-E2C-132E9@webmail-m042.sysops.aol.com>


<<I've been wondering how I am going to control cabin temperature on 
myECO ride to Brooklyn MI for the X-Prize knock out rounds 
(NEXTWEEK!!).>>

1) Go to the gas station convenience store, park by that outdoor Ice 
chest.

2)Go in and give them your credit card.

3) Start filling the ECO with ice. Leave a bit of space around the 
controls :) Stop when the ice gets up around the windows.

4) Get credit card receipt.

5) Drive frosty!


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From Lore724 at aol.com  Fri Jun 18 19:41:07 2010
From: Lore724 at aol.com (Lore724 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:41:07 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
Message-ID: <67ab2.1f5d4884.394d25d3@aol.com>

More than you can imagine.  Does your GPS have home stored?  I  will be 
making a trip to PA in September.
 
Dave in MI
 
 
In a message dated 6/18/2010 12:59:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jack.riepe at gmail.com writes:

Dear  Dave:

How much stuff did you steal?

-- 
Fondest  regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not  everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be  nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita  Riepe
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From misevich at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 20:09:55 2010
From: misevich at gmail.com (Dave Misevich)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:09:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Navigation System
In-Reply-To: <25439.12.181.211.35.1276871897.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
References: <A652A3E4B43D418CA4ACDB4261F9DD6C@GatewayDT>
	<4C1B1117.9417.1702D0@localhost> 
	<4C1B4FFB.1040500@argolis.org> <012501cb0ef1$a4b05d80$ee111880$@com> 
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On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Joe Dille <joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us> wrote:
>>
> That would be a good reason to make your "home" using the neighbor's
> address. ?Perhaps use the one that is 2-3 doors down and has the dog that
> barks all night. ?In any case, you could still use it to get home, but
> they could not use it to get to "your" home.
>

That wouldn't help here MI, don't know about PA. It's always been a
pet peeve of mine that I'm required by law to have my vehicle
registration (with my home address on it) in the car at all times.

We do the bean bag mount too.

--
The other Dave in MI in the Ann Arbor area,
Dave Misevich
Dexter, MI
'85 K100RT
'98 R1100RT

From crocov502 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 18 21:43:11 2010
From: crocov502 at yahoo.com (Arla Hile)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:43:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Reported "K16 RT" photo
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim--EYxVi8S4yn7dYT-LMZvAa9gjQ2GKZDqfUz7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim--EYxVi8S4yn7dYT-LMZvAa9gjQ2GKZDqfUz7@mail.gmail.com>
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From: Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com
Meanwhile there seems to be a
movement to smaller and lighter as the aged and infirm riders find the
tanks harder to deal with.

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When I started riding, 750s were large. Now the MC rags call 'em middleweights. 

Arla



      

From quinntex2000 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 18 21:50:36 2010
From: quinntex2000 at yahoo.com (Quinn Tex)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:50:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RTW
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin74tLB630JgzORiDfYAYVqMYn8FVkm53wiZrXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <634960.17411.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>



> Don't forget Monday is the annual
> Ride to Work day!? -? EPH
> 
> http://www.ridetowork.org/
> 

I WISH I could participate, but this rotten case of tennis elbow led me to a little procedure that's keeping me on light duty for the next 10 days.....no riding of the mc, bicycle, spinning, tennis, weight lifting etc.

Georgina


      

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Sat Jun 19 00:11:55 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:11:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Amsoil Prices Going Up
Message-ID: <4C1C0B4B.8050705@ptd.net>

The rapidly increasing costs of lubricant base stocks and additives have 
been well-documented over the past few months. Although virtually all 
lubricant manufacturers implemented price increases in January and 
February, AMSOIL held off. More recently, lubricant manufacturers have 
implemented 6 to 10 percent price increases on finished products 
effective June and July. AMSOIL makes every effort to maintain the 
lowest prices possible and has delayed raising prices for as long as 
possible. Due to the ever-increasing costs of raw materials, however, 
AMSOIL is forced to implement a 3 to 6 percent price adjustment in the 
U.S. effective August 1. Due to fluctuations in the exchange rate, 
Canadian prices will remain unchanged at this time.

Time to stock up again.

Chris Jaccarino

From wayne at 2zars.com  Sat Jun 19 02:28:53 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 22:28:53 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: viral Russian video NSFW
Message-ID: <roao16t2622qv5l6gkau3a4t6rvvrpj26q@4ax.com>

NSFW!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cZ1KkDLt3I&feature=player_embedded&has_verified=1

You need to log in to see it because of the content.  


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Sat Jun 19 02:41:31 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 22:41:31 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Eagle, now Fresno-bashing
In-Reply-To: <8CCDD2AC1816B74-E2C-132E9@webmail-m042.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTil_JI5G1jys0wbp-wtr50PSlCEdZgN7x7Ue-IQK@mail.gmail.com>
	<18068.12.181.211.35.1276698576.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
	<690966.18594.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTikEMHEkK5pAC2uQPzq3WIoBH_azXQhByJ46FIL9@mail.gmail.com>
	<227358.40177.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTinSKkKokCesHSAlYKpNAIEpZKCVQql9wiQFcHrQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<98441.69765.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTiksE_llRR3gpTj1gl1LVT-IgGJI-BizYbM8eKHo@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCDD2AC1816B74-E2C-132E9@webmail-m042.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinutGbXPevJXBFTGofYuaZSrtlkHocfR3NsGHDM@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:
>
> <<I've been wondering how I am going to control cabin temperature on myECO
> ride to Brooklyn MI for the X-Prize knock out rounds (NEXTWEEK!!).>>
>
> 1) Go to the gas station convenience store, park by that outdoor Ice chest.
>
> 2)Go in and give them your credit card.
>
> 3) Start filling the ECO with ice. Leave a bit of space around the controls
> :) Stop when the ice gets up around the windows.
>
> 4) Get credit card receipt.
>
> 5) Drive frosty!
>
>
> --
> Tom Cutter


BRILLIANT TOM!!

I want to try it!

Dano

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 19 02:44:33 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 22:44:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Robotic Eagle, now Fresno-bashing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinutGbXPevJXBFTGofYuaZSrtlkHocfR3NsGHDM@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil_JI5G1jys0wbp-wtr50PSlCEdZgN7x7Ue-IQK@mail.gmail.com>
	<18068.12.181.211.35.1276698576.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
	<690966.18594.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTikEMHEkK5pAC2uQPzq3WIoBH_azXQhByJ46FIL9@mail.gmail.com>
	<227358.40177.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTinSKkKokCesHSAlYKpNAIEpZKCVQql9wiQFcHrQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<98441.69765.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTiksE_llRR3gpTj1gl1LVT-IgGJI-BizYbM8eKHo@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCDD2AC1816B74-E2C-132E9@webmail-m042.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTinutGbXPevJXBFTGofYuaZSrtlkHocfR3NsGHDM@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinXGMuudrakGksRy0vaIpWSxR45yG79Ov9Poq_c@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/18/10, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:
>  >
>  > <<I've been wondering how I am going to control cabin temperature on myECO
>  > ride to Brooklyn MI for the X-Prize knock out rounds (NEXTWEEK!!).>>
>  >
>  > 1) Go to the gas station convenience store, park by that outdoor Ice chest.
>  >
>  > 2)Go in and give them your credit card.
>  >
>  > 3) Start filling the ECO with ice. Leave a bit of space around the controls
>  > :) Stop when the ice gets up around the windows.
>  >
>  > 4) Get credit card receipt.
>  >
>  > 5) Drive frosty!
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > Tom Cutter
>
>
>
> BRILLIANT TOM!!

Take pictures at a minimum.  Better a Video.  Mac-Pac on Youtube. ;););)

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From tpcutter at aol.com  Sat Jun 19 03:08:42 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 23:08:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Amsoil Prices Going Up
In-Reply-To: <4C1C0B4B.8050705@ptd.net>
References: <4C1C0B4B.8050705@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <8CCDD73DB4A0D4F-C98-60A8@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com>


<<The rapidly increasing costs of lubricant base stocks and additives 
have been well-documented over the past few months. Although virtually 
all lubricant manufacturers implemented price increases in January and 
February, AMSOIL held off. More recently, lubricant manufacturers have 
implemented 6 to 10 percent price increases on finished products 
effective June and July. AMSOIL makes every effort to maintain the 
lowest prices possible and has delayed raising prices for as long as 
possible. Due to the ever-increasing costs of raw materials, however, 
AMSOIL is forced to implement a 3 to 6 percent price adjustment in the 
U.S. effective August 1. Due to fluctuations in the exchange rate, 
Canadian prices will remain unchanged at this time.Time to stock up 
again.>>

Amsoil: 10% oil, 5% coloring agents, 85% advertising hype.

Spare me the "test results," please. I get plenty of hosed motors where 
the owner is a proud Amsoil "disciple."


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 19 03:31:06 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 23:31:06 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: First it was doping the riders,
	now it is "doping" the 	bicycles...
Message-ID: <AANLkTik1DPRrp0QN6reFPjIW9jFgYUGnp9N4nWJe5RDL@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.99c46f123400d07a2e59375bc0bb6a9d.351&show_article=1

This put some meat into it.
http://www.bicycle.net/2010/uci-tour-de-france-bikes-to-be-scanned-for-motors

600W is not that much less than a horsepower (746W).  It sounds like
basically a Stepper motor.  That is how they can sense the speed when
it is off, and then match it on.  Also no screaming due to brush
noise.  Maybe some gear reduction, but with a small motor shaft and a
bigger sprocket gear shaft, you get some right t here.  Enough of a
battery that it would provide 600Whs that is tougher.    However, the
60 minute value might not at max output.

Still someone did some REAL innovative thinking.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 19 03:48:37 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 23:48:37 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Flying to El Paso TX, Tucson AZ, San Diego CA?
Message-ID: <AANLkTinN__KFOyFJ62AB-R8BlKpzM11MXUNL9xb6eiZR@mail.gmail.com>

Watch out for the Border Patrol Drone Aircraft that has lost its way,
has no human control and is heading for home NOW, anything in the way
be damned....
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/06/border-drone-breaks-comms-with-pilot-flights-suspended/

Now when it is someone else's airspace (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan)
that is different...

Check the video out for all the "cool stuff" theyare equipped with.
Being able to be "on station" for 24 hours is impressive.  Shows how
reliable engines are that just go round and round and no in and out
action.

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From bmwdick at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 00:05:09 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:05:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] MSF offers daily MCtips
Message-ID: <AANLkTilUQjtkxmmT6T2VT8VG2_Jz3kFIC1vdbYYnYWrP@mail.gmail.com>

http://online2.msf-usa.org/msf/TipArchive.aspx

-- 
BMW-Dick
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I?m
not sure about the universe.?    Albert Einstein.

From bmwdick at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 01:30:45 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:30:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] A Beemer in your future?
Message-ID: <AANLkTimYnsdL5vqDU9vmJYA_2SMgPpd264pKBk7pc_WN@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.gizmag.com/morgan-to-sell-limited-edition-lightweight-evagt/15401/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=d10d3c1c9b-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email

Wonder if they'll have a Canbus subcontracted to Lucas???

-- 
BMW-Dick
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I?m
not sure about the universe.?    Albert Einstein.

From bmwdick at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 22:22:55 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:22:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Brightening up your morning bacon pancakes
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikQV-7rXveI_jMPYpCu276OeZqCS5MqehYdsV0A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikaPxxKidlHlRAkQd8qMd3aUmVB9X7l6WYZPRPi@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTikQV-7rXveI_jMPYpCu276OeZqCS5MqehYdsV0A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimxhckzW1sTrRFFLsNZ98PO1Usz6YqdZ22q0PZV@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Michael Evans <mrmevans at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at voicenet.com>
> wrote:
> > http://bacontoday.com/colored-bacon/
> >
> > Greg Roberts did you Mom ever make bacon pancakes like this?
> >
>
> I do not like it Brian Curry,
> Get that colored bacon away from here in a hurry.
>
> I felt sick when I saw it
> and I have you to thank.
> That looked like something
> from Reipe's gas tank.
>
> (that's all you get from me at this point in the day and admittedly,
> it's not much)
>
> --
> Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA
>

Michael


> By "gas tank" you are undoubtedly referring to the one on his K75 and not
> the one in proximity to where Jack usually loses his keys.
>

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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I?m not sure
about the universe.?    Albert Einstein.
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From jasiii at earthlink.net  Sat Jun 19 11:34:47 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 07:34:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Blues in Maryland ???
Message-ID: <C8422397.45F3%jasiii@earthlink.net>

OK ... My delete key sometimes works too fast

Someone posted a note last week about going to Maryland for Blues and food.

At the time I only had $3.00 in my wallet so I hit the delete key..

Now I am thinking more and more about the Blues music...

Who posted ?? And where is the ??Bar?? that has the music ??

Just asking, at this point, to try to make plans for later.

Thanks in advance

Jim




From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Sat Jun 19 11:46:17 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 07:46:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Getting a fully equipped model inspected could
	be	interesting or not
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilckhjci5geJvmACgfrjixKNxA7JPnNO0ykF_Uc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C1C75C9.20513.1B6427@localhost>



> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN5PAwc1ns8
> (WS)
> 
> Threaten the agent and you might get a sticker no matter what.  The
> PSP might be upset about disturbing the populace with the accessories.
>  Or "threatening" them.  The load limits sound low though.
> 

Brian,

Thanks for sharing these.  I have driven a Ural off road and they do 
get-r-done.  The big caveat is that it continues to run during the 
adventure.  Still, an interesting bike.

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Sat Jun 19 12:09:59 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 08:09:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: First it was doping the riders,
	now it is "doping" the 	bicycles...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik1DPRrp0QN6reFPjIW9jFgYUGnp9N4nWJe5RDL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C1C7B57.10619.3118A8@localhost>



> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.99c46f123400d07a2e59375bc0
> bb6a9d.351&show_article=1
> 
> This put some meat into it.
> http://www.bicycle.net/2010/uci-tour-de-france-bikes-to-be-scanned-for
> -motors
> 
> 600W is not that much less than a horsepower (746W).  It sounds like
> basically a Stepper motor.  That is how they can sense the speed when
> it is off, and then match it on.  Also no screaming due to brush
> noise.  Maybe some gear reduction, but with a small motor shaft and a
> bigger sprocket gear shaft, you get some right t here.  Enough of a
> battery that it would provide 600Whs that is tougher.    However, the
> 60 minute value might not at max output.
> 
> Still someone did some REAL innovative thinking.
> 

That is cool.  It would be like a NOS button for your bike.  The 600W 
is significant:

"the bicycle power meter measures a cyclist?s power production.  This 
power usually ranges anywhere between 250 Watts if they are just 
cruising along with the pack, or 400-500 Watts if they are pushing 
hard up a steep climb. "

From: http://blog.mapawatt.com/2009/07/19/bicycle-power-watts/

If true 600W would more than double your power output.  This would be 
pure magic.  I bet even 50W would be significant.  The trick would be 
to have the power output more than offset dragging the extra weight 
around.  Being able to double your power would be very useful at 
stragic points in a race.

Ride Safe,

Joe

Speaking of racing.  Time to pack the trailer and head to the 
track... 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From piechota at argolis.org  Sat Jun 19 13:15:22 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:15:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Blues in Maryland ???
In-Reply-To: <C8422397.45F3%jasiii@earthlink.net>
References: <C8422397.45F3%jasiii@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4C1CC2EA.2070608@argolis.org>

James A. Sterling wrote:
> OK ... My delete key sometimes works too fast
> 
> Someone posted a note last week about going to Maryland for Blues and food.
> 
> At the time I only had $3.00 in my wallet so I hit the delete key..
> 
> Now I am thinking more and more about the Blues music...
> 
> Who posted ?? And where is the ??Bar?? that has the music ??
> 
> Just asking, at this point, to try to make plans for later.

Robert LeBoutillier (I know I messed up the spelling, sorry!) was going 
to a place in Northeast, MD called the Pickled Herring Pub on Thursday. 
  They apparently have live music every night.
http://www.pickledherringpub.com/

From rdlebout at gmail.com  Sat Jun 19 14:03:15 2010
From: rdlebout at gmail.com (Roberts LeBoutillier)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:03:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Blues in Maryland ???
In-Reply-To: <4C1CC2EA.2070608@argolis.org>
References: <C8422397.45F3%jasiii@earthlink.net> <4C1CC2EA.2070608@argolis.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikHSLLwVfQPxoUVi88WRleNplAze2pvRxbW-MBL@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Matt Piechota <piechota at argolis.org> wrote:
> James A. Sterling wrote:
>> OK ... My delete key sometimes works too fast
>>
>> Someone posted a note last week about going to Maryland for Blues and food.
>>
>> At the time I only had $3.00 in my wallet so I hit the delete key..
>>
>> Now I am thinking more and more about the Blues music...
>>
>> Who posted ?? And where is the ??Bar?? that has the music ??
>>
>> Just asking, at this point, to try to make plans for later.
>
> Robert LeBoutillier (I know I messed up the spelling, sorry!) was going
> to a place in Northeast, MD called the Pickled Herring Pub on Thursday.
> ?They apparently have live music every night.
> http://www.pickledherringpub.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Mac-pac-l mailing list
> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
>

The place is hard to find.  It is right across the street from
Woody's.  Got home to Exton in 50 minutes.


-- 
Bobby LeBoutillier

From wassallj at infionline.net  Sat Jun 19 14:21:46 2010
From: wassallj at infionline.net (Jay Wassall)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:21:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Perhaps a Trip to Delaware
In-Reply-To: <3ghm16tpgrttr81e88rmf81bi81mfib1gt@4ax.com>
References: <3E9BA7A58D7747C28A562EFDD74A5F2D@GatewayDT>	<4C1ADCE9.7070807@argolis.org>	<AANLkTikecj58CxIPeaEh9bIuP5qLsa73RiPLxJkuGBz_@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTilI6qHLzJ9k4LClOR_aCcmyuZ8iy6UOiXL9XGDm@mail.gmail.com>
	<3ghm16tpgrttr81e88rmf81bi81mfib1gt@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <4C1CD27A.3080702@infionline.net>

Wayne Woodruff wrote:
>   
>> Outside of the last gas station on Rt. 9 in Delaware City, there is no
>> gas on Rt. 9 once you cross the canal, until you get down past Dover.
>>     
>
> Two Delaware 'facts'.
>
> It's actually pronounced 'DelaWHERE?'
>
> Anything below the canal is known as 'Slower Delaware' 
>
>
>
>   

I used to live in Delaware.  Several times I gave my address to people 
on the west coast and they would say "Delaware, is that in Maryland?"

-Jay


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 19 14:52:49 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:52:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Geeky Humor and high aspirations
Message-ID: <AANLkTikWyM5N9aZv9ilvY03YQqZC7v-3aWCY5xY_vCA5@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source/the-linux-funny-bone-the-best-geek-humor-691&current=7&last=11#slideshowTop
(WS)

I got a good giggle about this representation of Apple vs Linux

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From chrisjac at ptd.net  Sat Jun 19 17:30:55 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 13:30:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Amsoil Prices Going Up
In-Reply-To: <8CCDD73DB4A0D4F-C98-60A8@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com>
References: <4C1C0B4B.8050705@ptd.net>
	<8CCDD73DB4A0D4F-C98-60A8@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C1CFECF.4020109@ptd.net>

Tom Cutter wrote:
>
> <<The rapidly increasing costs of lubricant base stocks and additives 
> have been well-documented over the past few months. Although virtually 
> all lubricant manufacturers implemented price increases in January and 
> February, AMSOIL held off. More recently, lubricant manufacturers have 
> implemented 6 to 10 percent price increases on finished products 
> effective June and July. AMSOIL makes every effort to maintain the 
> lowest prices possible and has delayed raising prices for as long as 
> possible. Due to the ever-increasing costs of raw materials, however, 
> AMSOIL is forced to implement a 3 to 6 percent price adjustment in the 
> U.S. effective August 1. Due to fluctuations in the exchange rate, 
> Canadian prices will remain unchanged at this time.Time to stock up 
> again.>>
>
> Amsoil: 10% oil, 5% coloring agents, 85% advertising hype.
>
> Spare me the "test results," please. I get plenty of hosed motors 
> where the owner is a proud Amsoil "disciple."

You were spared the "test results".  "Test results" werent even 
mentioned.  YOU mentioned test results.

Chris Jaccarino

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 19 23:38:47 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:38:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Magic Those Tricky Japanese
Message-ID: <AANLkTimn-HxuehTm98bA_CVWjw68D2gGBLKB8YAJke6Q@mail.gmail.com>

Amazing what can be done with an iPad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATpSPNIuj3M
(WS)

Well done, has English subtitles for us.  Good for kids too.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sun Jun 20 02:11:50 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:11:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] For those with Airheads the BMW Omega Charging System FS
Message-ID: <AANLkTilgTf0TfNEHmXs8VRX3vIpmbbydxo2zntLrRORs@mail.gmail.com>

From: McRdrcr at aol.com <McRdrcr at aol.com>

I saw this posting for a BMW Omega Charging system that perhaps
someone in the MAC PAC would like...
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/pts/1791521372.html

Enjoy your day,

Dave
the bleeder

=====
It is up in Bucks County if that affects your decision.

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sun Jun 20 02:23:54 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:23:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Goodish news on Mike Kelly
Message-ID: <AANLkTinRV_R-bbO_4tEqkOl8P1reIJV7766NYn0H6Mpv@mail.gmail.com>

This in from Allison, Mike's son's wife:

Wonderful news! We have finally turned the corner on the pneumonia! It
is finally getting better. Mike's fever of over 102 degrees has
completely gone now. Yesterday, he had a tracheotomy, which sounds
weird and scary to us, but medically it is much better for him. There
are greater risks involved if a breathing tube is left in for more
than a week. The mouth invites bacteria in and the tracheotomy in
Mike's throat will keep bacteria out and it more comfortable to him
because it's less of a choking feeling.

They have taken him off of pain meds in order to keep him more alert.
Mike is working hard at opening his eyes. He is more responsive today,
and after several days of no response, it is a huge relief to see any
response. The nurse said he is holding up his finger on command and
sticking out his tongue. Matt told a joke and really believes he saw a
half smile.

Coincidence or not, Mike's condition started improving after he had
some wonderful nurses taking care of him. They have 12 hr shifts and
we are always anxious to see who is next. When he was at his sickest,
he had one nurse who was brand new and didn't know what she was doing
and another nurse that seemed to not want to be there. If the computer
didn't tell her to do something, then she was just sitting around. In
contrast, our favorite nurses, Katie and Evonne, worked their butts
off. When someone's life is in their hands, it takes more than a
computer to do the job. It takes human attention. The nurse is the one
who can catch a problem before it becomes a problem. And we are so
thankful that he's had good nurses the past 24 hours and I know that
is a big part of the reason why he has improved so much.

After learning more about Mike's specific brain injury, we are now
praying that his brain connections regrow and connect to their correct
counterpart and not somewhere else. It is still ever much a waiting
game. The doctors say it could take as much as 6 months before his
brain connections are healed and only then will we know if they have
made the right connections and what the permanent damage will be and
what will be treatable with rehab.

Today, a lot of our prayers were answered and we are feeling very
hopeful. Mike has a long way to go and we really appreciate all the
prayers he is getting. Thank you so much!

Allison

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From gary5410 at aol.com  Sun Jun 20 03:20:56 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:20:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen - window seat is done
Message-ID: <8CCDE3EBB0EBFFA-23D0-C6E5@Webmail-d110.sysops.aol.com>

Leah got to cook breakfast on the new range.........and the window seat 
is finished ...almost.....handles and end panels!


http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#906832171_v43Ps

P.S.  Craig is bringing his Guzzi to breakfast!


From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Sun Jun 20 06:52:40 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 02:52:40 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R leaving for Colorado
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimuI4QKiWrXFsD-B5LPSPP15JooHwqNoVMMMZ21@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin_ZOr7x48Ab9ZfELfBhww5u2Bv1FUbmYHPmI1S@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimuI4QKiWrXFsD-B5LPSPP15JooHwqNoVMMMZ21@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimJXlE6IXZUdoj_ANNqLRgViVoE-peeqUCxQ4iN@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Doug Raymond
> <douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'll be riding out in about an hour, to Estes Park, which is 70 miles
>> NW of Denver, about 1800 miles.
>>
>> Taking the slab. ?Expect to get there Tues PM.
>>
>> This is for the 45th reunion of our Peace Corps Thailand group. ?About
>> 30 old buddies are getting together, as we do every 5 or ten years.
>>
>> Returning home probably by next Sunday night, so I'll probably miss
>> 3rd Sunday breakfast that day.
>>
>
> Arrived in Colorado Monday night, just 24 hrs after leaving Ambler.
> Faster than I expected. ?Other than rain in Ohio and Iowa the weather
> was great and road conditions on I-80 were good. ?Apparently I just
> missed torrential rains in northern Colorado the day before.
>
> I didn't intend to push it that hard, but after each gas fill-up (260
> miles average), I just felt like going for a ride. ?Took a catnap on a
> bench in Ohio, another one in Nebraska. ?The bike is running great.
>
> I rode pretty fast. ?The LEO's were active especially in Iowa and
> Nebraska, but I was just lucky again, no tickets.
>
> Now it's a beautiful day, I got a wonderful sleep at a Best Western,
> and I should be having a scenic leisurely ride of about 150 miles up
> into the Rockies to Estes Park via Greeley on Rte 34. ?Our reunion
> starts there this afternoon.
>
> The rolling hills of Nebraska in late afternoon bright sun with puffy
> little clouds looked like endless variations of the old MS Windows
> main page. ?In the dusk and light rain in NE Colorado it was an
> impressive empty rangeland, but polluted every 20miles or so by beef
> feed lots, half a mile square, emanating a stench that follows and
> stays with you.
>

I am home safe and sound from my ride to the Rocky Mountains.

The 45th reunion with my old Peace Corps Thailand buddies (1965-1968
training and volunteer work in Thailand) was perfect.  The last 150
miles of riding was up out of the endless plains of eastern Colorado
and Kansas into the spectacular Rockies, whose peaks get a fresh cover
of snow whenever it rains in the prairie, which it did a lot just
before I arrived.

We stayed at an old-fashioned mountain lodge, south of Estes Park, CO.
 The isolation was a perfect ambience for us to first recall each
other (I didn't recognize many at first!) and then to recall our
memories of struggle, failure and success in faraway Siam in the last
century.  We shared stories, sang Thai songs, and had debates and info
sharing on current politics and problems in Thailand.

I re-delivered a thank-you speech I gave to Princess Sirindhorn, the
daughter of the king, when she invited our Peace Corps group to the
palace for lunch in 2000 during our last reunion.  About five of the
volunteers had married Thai wives and they came along to the reunion
to and contributed a lot to it.  They liked the speech, which
contained a lot of Sanskrit-like royal Thai words, thanks to a
translation made by my Thai teacher/friend in Thailand.

The isolation of the lodge made it easy for us to reminisce together
as a group, and many one-on-ones too.  Just down the road is the
Stanley Hotel, site of the Jack Nicholson movie "The Shining", quite
similar to our venue.

I had a beautiful ride home in fine weather on the motorcycle.

Except for a serious breakdown in Kansas, which was almost the end of
the motorcycle.  I was rescued by a most interesting farmer, who
helped me fix the motorcycle and continue riding home.  I will send
this story separately, it is a wonderful story.


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Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Sun Jun 20 10:27:08 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 06:27:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R leaving for Colorado
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimJXlE6IXZUdoj_ANNqLRgViVoE-peeqUCxQ4iN@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimuI4QKiWrXFsD-B5LPSPP15JooHwqNoVMMMZ21@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C1DB4BC.29361.1861A1@localhost>



> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Doug Raymond
> <douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Doug Raymond
> > <douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I'll be riding out in about an hour, to Estes Park, which is 70
> >> miles NW of Denver, about 1800 miles.
> >>
> >> Taking the slab. ?Expect to get there Tues PM.
> >>
> >> This is for the 45th reunion of our Peace Corps Thailand group.
> >> ?About 30 old buddies are getting together, as we do every 5 or ten
> >> years.
> >>
> >> Returning home probably by next Sunday night, so I'll probably miss
> >> 3rd Sunday breakfast that day.
> >>
> >
> > Arrived in Colorado Monday night, just 24 hrs after leaving Ambler.
> > Faster than I expected. ?Other than rain in Ohio and Iowa the
> > weather was great and road conditions on I-80 were good. ?Apparently
> > I just missed torrential rains in northern Colorado the day before.
> >
> > I didn't intend to push it that hard, but after each gas fill-up
> > (260 miles average), I just felt like going for a ride. ?Took a
> > catnap on a bench in Ohio, another one in Nebraska. ?The bike is
> > running great.
> >
> > I rode pretty fast. ?The LEO's were active especially in Iowa and
> > Nebraska, but I was just lucky again, no tickets.
> >
> > Now it's a beautiful day, I got a wonderful sleep at a Best Western,
> > and I should be having a scenic leisurely ride of about 150 miles up
> > into the Rockies to Estes Park via Greeley on Rte 34. ?Our reunion
> > starts there this afternoon.
> >
> > The rolling hills of Nebraska in late afternoon bright sun with
> > puffy little clouds looked like endless variations of the old MS
> > Windows main page. ?In the dusk and light rain in NE Colorado it was
> > an impressive empty rangeland, but polluted every 20miles or so by
> > beef feed lots, half a mile square, emanating a stench that follows
> > and stays with you.
> >
> 
> I am home safe and sound from my ride to the Rocky Mountains.
> 
> 
Snip...
> Except for a serious breakdown in Kansas, which was almost the end of
> the motorcycle.  I was rescued by a most interesting farmer, who
> helped me fix the motorcycle and continue riding home.  I will send
> this story separately, it is a wonderful story.
> 

Doug,

Glad you are back safe and sound, and you had a great time.  Life is 
an adventure.  Yours just a little more so.  Can't wait to hear your 
story.

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From Braveirwin at aol.com  Sun Jun 20 10:36:17 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 06:36:17 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R leaving for Colorado
Message-ID: <ab2c0.494f598f.394f4921@aol.com>



In a message dated 6/20/2010 2:53:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  dougla
s.t.raymond at gmail.com writes:


Except for a serious breakdown in Kansas, which was almost the end  of
the motorcycle.  I was rescued by a most interesting farmer,  who
helped me fix the motorcycle and continue riding home.  I will  send
this story separately, it is a wonderful story.
===================================================
 
Thanks for the report of your safe return. It sounds like hearts were open  
and reconnections established. I imagine you will be sleeping while we are  
eating breakfast. I'm looking forward to your report of the farmer's help 
in  getting you and your veteran bike home.

Roddy.
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From Braveirwin at aol.com  Sun Jun 20 10:48:43 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 06:48:43 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Magic Those Tricky Japanese
Message-ID: <ab62e.2be618f2.394f4c0b@aol.com>

Yes, that is really clever. Roddy.
 
 
In a message dated 6/19/2010 7:39:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
bmwbrian at gmail.com writes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATpSPNIuj3M

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From wayne at 2zars.com  Sun Jun 20 12:42:06 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:42:06 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Magic Those Tricky Japanese
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimn-HxuehTm98bA_CVWjw68D2gGBLKB8YAJke6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimn-HxuehTm98bA_CVWjw68D2gGBLKB8YAJke6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <n33s1616qv1u1su15vkjis8r4k0oobs2gm@4ax.com>



>Amazing what can be done with an iPad:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATpSPNIuj3M
>(WS)
>
>Well done, has English subtitles for us.  Good for kids too.

Indeed.  Apple should consider him for their marketing dept!

Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From piechota at argolis.org  Sun Jun 20 12:51:32 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:51:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Magic Those Tricky Japanese
In-Reply-To: <n33s1616qv1u1su15vkjis8r4k0oobs2gm@4ax.com>
References: <AANLkTimn-HxuehTm98bA_CVWjw68D2gGBLKB8YAJke6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<n33s1616qv1u1su15vkjis8r4k0oobs2gm@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <4C1E0ED4.5040807@argolis.org>

Wayne Woodruff wrote:
> 
>> Amazing what can be done with an iPad:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATpSPNIuj3M
>> (WS)
>>
>> Well done, has English subtitles for us.  Good for kids too.
> 
> Indeed.  Apple should consider him for their marketing dept!

Seems like it, since all the magic is done by the guy.  That's perfect 
for marketing!  The iPad is just doing a slide show.  I thought at first 
he was triggering the animations subtly with touches, but it seems to 
get a little out of sync at one point.

From rogers.george at gmail.com  Sun Jun 20 16:35:02 2010
From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:35:02 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Kind of for Jack
Message-ID: <AANLkTik3H2TyIYagjOOPodqLobhE0V3qhLOnueG3xkql@mail.gmail.com>

I just mentioned strippers in my latest post on writing-rag (see
below), and a bit about the relationship between a young lady and her
former physical fitness coach. And a scandal in the British publishing
industry. It's short.

fwiw, if you're interested in chickens, check out the two most recent
posts in Mushrooms to Motorcycles.

Best wishes,
Rogers George
http://writing-rag.com
http://rogersgeorge.com
http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com

From gary5410 at aol.com  Sun Jun 20 17:06:32 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:06:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Pagoda today
Message-ID: <8CCDEB210FE83FB-19FC-12129@webmail-m083.sysops.aol.com>

I managed to get out for breakfast and a short ride to the Pagoda in 
Reading today!
Craig's Guzzi didn't miss a beat!

http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Pagota/12628031_fUsAu#907378345_reDAj

Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure

From mrmevans at gmail.com  Sun Jun 20 20:49:45 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 16:49:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ever Receive a Bad Father's Day Gift?
Message-ID: <AANLkTinpBYlVOQ17LlWMPGkDd_G7pxmrp5u38ApVUxr2@mail.gmail.com>

My fellow MAC-PACrs;

Have you ever received a REALLY bad Father Day gift.

I got one of those today, presumably from a MAC-PAC member
demonstrating his (or her) appreciation for non-German motorcycle
brands.

The problem is, I don't know who it's from...they forgot to leave a card.

I thought, Jack Riepe, but quickly ruled him out for 3 reasons:
1) There was a simple pun on the accompanying note that was far
beneath Jack's typical writing style
2) The "size" of the gift didn't seem like something Jack could have
created, and
3) The improbability of Jack "placing" this gift in the location where
I found it.

I then turned my focus towards Breg Dickstein as the giver, but ruled
him out for 3 reasons:
1) There was a simple pun on the accompanying note that far exceeded
Breg's typical writing style
2) The Father's Day gift arrived on time - it was not HTML delayed, and
3) I found no bike parts scattered amongst the boulders near my home.

If anyone has any insight as to who this gift is from, please let me know....

More about the gift:

http://justamanandhisthoughts.blogspot.com/2010/06/undesirable-fathers-day-gift.html

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Sun Jun 20 20:57:12 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 16:57:12 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ever Receive a Bad Father's Day Gift?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinpBYlVOQ17LlWMPGkDd_G7pxmrp5u38ApVUxr2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinpBYlVOQ17LlWMPGkDd_G7pxmrp5u38ApVUxr2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimAzaKbwsqfiR6hV2e9juhwu1W72rbD4eAICCMH@mail.gmail.com>

I'm Spartacus!

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Sun Jun 20 21:37:07 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:37:07 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R leaving for Colorado
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimJXlE6IXZUdoj_ANNqLRgViVoE-peeqUCxQ4iN@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin_ZOr7x48Ab9ZfELfBhww5u2Bv1FUbmYHPmI1S@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimuI4QKiWrXFsD-B5LPSPP15JooHwqNoVMMMZ21@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimJXlE6IXZUdoj_ANNqLRgViVoE-peeqUCxQ4iN@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilSdrf52RamVIolHvxTKy6-0gZKuGllEyR5JpOy@mail.gmail.com>

> I had a beautiful ride home in fine weather on the motorcycle.
>
> Except for a serious breakdown in Kansas, which was almost the end of
> the motorcycle. ?I was rescued by a most interesting farmer, who
> helped me fix the motorcycle and continue riding home. ?I will send
> this story separately, it is a wonderful story.

> Doug Raymond

Well done Doug!

The X-Prize ride is day after tomorrow 6/22 to Jackson MI.

Sure you don't want to go??

We do have space at the Jackson Travel Lodge.

ECO Dano

From tpcutter at aol.com  Sun Jun 20 22:56:44 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:56:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ever Receive a Bad Father's Day Gift?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimAzaKbwsqfiR6hV2e9juhwu1W72rbD4eAICCMH@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinpBYlVOQ17LlWMPGkDd_G7pxmrp5u38ApVUxr2@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimAzaKbwsqfiR6hV2e9juhwu1W72rbD4eAICCMH@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCDEE2FD032925-594-142D6@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com>


I got a new son-in-law for Father's Day. That'll work. Beats the shyt 
outta a necktie or a pile of plastic doody.

--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 20 23:59:30 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:59:30 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ever Receive a Bad Father's Day Gift?
Message-ID: <12203726.1277078371183.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Ever Receive a Bad Father's Day Gift?
>
>I got a new son-in-law for Father's Day. That'll work. Beats the shyt 
>outta a necktie or a pile of plastic doody.
>
>--?
>Tom Cutter

Congratulation ..  I only got a card :->

Jim

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From david.hardgrove at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 00:11:45 2010
From: david.hardgrove at gmail.com (David Hardgrove)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:11:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Flip face helmets
Message-ID: <AANLkTintPK-fonKex7ZSsPv2xh7H3Tgk4loWPnlNclDy@mail.gmail.com>

I am looking to get a new helmet, and am considering a flip face.
Seeking recommendations as to brand, model, noise, price, quality,
where to buy, sizing, etc.

Thanks

David

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 21 00:49:42 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:49:42 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Flip face helmets
Message-ID: <27828867.1277081382679.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


>I am looking to get a new helmet, and am considering a flip face.
>Seeking recommendations as to brand, model, noise, price, quality,
>where to buy, sizing, etc.
>
>Thanks
>
>David
>

For what it is worth.. I have a Shoei Multitech.. The list price is about $495... 

I very much like it; vents on the top that work and in the chin
Also quiet .. I can listen to my ipod using the speakers from my Cardo intercom as music noise.
I got the one I am using at one of the Rally's and paid $425 on sale

Good fit for my round head.. if you have a more egg shaped head it might be loose so check out Arai.

http://www.shoei-helmets.com/Helmet.aspx?Multitec&h=13&t=1

Hope this helps

Jim

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From Doug at pencader.com  Mon Jun 21 01:15:00 2010
From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:15:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ever Receive a Bad Father's Day Gift?
In-Reply-To: <8CCDEE2FD032925-594-142D6@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTinpBYlVOQ17LlWMPGkDd_G7pxmrp5u38ApVUxr2@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTimAzaKbwsqfiR6hV2e9juhwu1W72rbD4eAICCMH@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCDEE2FD032925-594-142D6@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <030c01cb10df$2e039810$8a0ac830$@com>

Tom wrote;

>>> snips

> I got a new son-in-law for Father's Day. That'll work. Beats the shyt 
> outta a necktie or a pile of plastic doody.

>>> end

Congratulations to you and the missus for crossing another milestone in life.

When does the happy couple move in?

Doug
'01 1150 GS
Bear, DE


From wayne at 2zars.com  Mon Jun 21 01:14:45 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:14:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] No more Hammersley BMW!
Message-ID: <g5ft16pdd11md2j4k8741lmvthkrka11vh@4ax.com>

I was going to look up some parts for my biks and went to Hammersley's
website, webparts.com, and got this notice:

Effective May 31st, our BMW Motorcycle Division in Lynchburg, VA will
no longer be in operation. We thank you for your many years of
business, and it has been a pleasure serving you.

Just thought I'd pass this along.  

Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 01:36:03 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:36:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is an interesting interpretation of a "full tank"
Message-ID: <AANLkTinw4i97x-AwPoDBSTvJezRXCa1rW4GSUOaw9P3h@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2010/06/18/best-fuel-tank-of-the-month/
(WS)

Or you can tell where their priorities are.  I suspect it could be bad
at a traffic stop, if the seals were not in place.

Eco Dan what was the capacity of the tank _before_ the customization?

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From corey.lyba at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 01:58:31 2010
From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:58:31 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Pagoda today
In-Reply-To: <8CCDEB210FE83FB-19FC-12129@webmail-m083.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCDEB210FE83FB-19FC-12129@webmail-m083.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinKjFMIgpi9fXuH6BL5qLc3daaI9WtiZG-xu9F_@mail.gmail.com>

Nice! If you want to see something really cool, head back to the
Pagoda hill next Saturday for the Duryea Hill Climb. SCCA event in
which cars race up to the pagoda.

From gary5410 at aol.com  Mon Jun 21 02:24:46 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:24:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Pagoda today
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinKjFMIgpi9fXuH6BL5qLc3daaI9WtiZG-xu9F_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CCDEB210FE83FB-19FC-12129@webmail-m083.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTinKjFMIgpi9fXuH6BL5qLc3daaI9WtiZG-xu9F_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCDF000D2DE619-19FC-159D4@webmail-m083.sysops.aol.com>

Leah and did catch that a few years ago....we were cruising around in 
our Z3 on a nice sunny day and ended up watching some of the hill 
climb. Stumbled on it by dumb luck!!
Gary


-----Original Message-----
From: Corey Lyba <corey.lyba at gmail.com>
To: Gary Christman <gary5410 at aol.com>
Cc: mac-pac-l at jtan.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:58 pm
Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Pagoda today


Nice! If you want to see something really cool, head back to the
Pagoda hill next Saturday for the Duryea Hill Climb. SCCA event in
which cars race up to the pagoda.

  

From tpcutter at aol.com  Mon Jun 21 02:42:17 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:42:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ever Receive a Bad Father's Day Gift?
In-Reply-To: <030c01cb10df$2e039810$8a0ac830$@com>
References: <AANLkTinpBYlVOQ17LlWMPGkDd_G7pxmrp5u38ApVUxr2@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTimAzaKbwsqfiR6hV2e9juhwu1W72rbD4eAICCMH@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCDEE2FD032925-594-142D6@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com>
	<030c01cb10df$2e039810$8a0ac830$@com>
Message-ID: <8CCDF027FACF4F0-594-15A92@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com>


<<Congratulations to you and the missus for crossing another milestone 
in life.When does the happy couple move in?>>

I hope to hell you meant to write "move out?"


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 02:46:33 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:46:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: When you don't have energy,
	the most important thing is GETTING 	IT
Message-ID: <AANLkTimiCqPzxCAzOrK4tzd83LnQpdlChEmoLcX8qR8X@mail.gmail.com>

When you have it, it is so sophisticated, to say "Oh we can do more with less."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/18/business/global/18yuan.html
(WS)

China which IS the number 1 emitter of C02 is making sure their
citizens have all the electric power they need from whatever source,
coal or solar, but they WILL have it.  AGW will be "We will deal with
that later, cause we DO NOT WANT SOCIAL  UNREST NOW."

IOW, they will do whatever they need to keep their people happy.
Global warming can come later...  FSVOLater.

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From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 03:56:30 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 23:56:30 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] X-Prize, was: Doug R leaving for Colorado
Message-ID: <AANLkTikHhcm1uezZyVTZVMup2dzewmE890SOQPaeTFQN@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:
......snip,,,
>
> The X-Prize ride is day after tomorrow 6/22 to Jackson MI.
>
> Sure you don't want to go??
>
> We do have space at the Jackson Travel Lodge.
>

That's a nice offer Dan.  Let me sleep on it.

-- 
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Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From Braveirwin at aol.com  Mon Jun 21 10:00:24 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 06:00:24 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Flip face helmets
Message-ID: <e267.754c57b8.39509238@aol.com>

David, I've had two. A Caberg (they are not imported from Italy anymore)  
and a Nolan 103. I like them both but I think the Nolan is a better  helmet.  
Roddy.
 
 
In a message dated 6/20/2010 8:12:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
david.hardgrove at gmail.com writes:

I am  looking to get a new helmet, and am considering a flip face.
Seeking  recommendations as to brand, model, noise, price, quality,
where to buy,  sizing,  etc.

Thanks

David
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From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com  Mon Jun 21 10:46:42 2010
From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 06:46:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Special Mac-Pac breakfast success
Message-ID: <F59EF81CD5ED4E4E888B6CA02B4C38330247C506A3@HVXMSP6.us.lmco.com>

Wow, how often do you plan an event and get ABSOLUTELY PERFECT weather.  The ride out to Joanna Furnace site on Saturday was just dreamy.  Cool air, clear skies, excellent forest and farm land roads.  Joanna Furnace is hidden down in the trees above Morgantown and it was a beautiful place on Saturday.  We tucked right into the awesome breakfast and tried to hide how many times we went back for refills.  All the food was great from the eggs, bacon, sausage, French toast, pancakes, hash browns, and, and, and.....  I was not brave enough to try the scrapple but it did look sort of good.  We all piled out to eat in the open air on the picnic tables and admire the vintage and new bikes parked right across the fence.  All you could eat and all the coffee you could handle for $7.  Numerous Mac-Pac'rs filled the tables - especially some folks (ex: Mark Barr) that we rarely see on Sunday mornings.  Nice to have Saturday breakfasts so they can join in.

We enjoyed milling around the flea market (nice US made steel tool box for Bob and good outside calipers for me (poifect for wood turning)) and checking out all the classic cars and antique machinery.  I was pretty impressed with the saw mill.  I had been to Joanna before but this was the first time I'd seen the mill in operation.  When the blade chewed thru that log you could feel the vibrations though the ground and into the next wood pile.  No guards, no covers, no OSHA.  Impressive power and danger.  Widow maker but neat to see it sawing out new framing wood.

And the turnout of Ford Model T's and A's was a treat.  And, except for the farm tractor conversion, road worthy, plated and driven there.  Something about the sound and smell of a running car that's almost 100 years old.  Hail to the folks who keep em maintained and running.

A great day and I was back in the garage before the heat got too wicked.  I think we'll do another Saturday breakfast in the fall.

Todd byrum
Gilbertsville, pa

From mrmevans at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 12:32:07 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:32:07 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Flip face helmets
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTintPK-fonKex7ZSsPv2xh7H3Tgk4loWPnlNclDy@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTintPK-fonKex7ZSsPv2xh7H3Tgk4loWPnlNclDy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinqW6JrHo8SqmeWeH5ElRiPbHG6tU_JkXQyfhY4@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 8:11 PM, David Hardgrove
<david.hardgrove at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am looking to get a new helmet, and am considering a flip face.
> Seeking recommendations as to brand, model, noise, price, quality,
> where to buy, sizing, etc.
>

David,

I picked up an HJC modular helmet. It was inexpensive (under $300) and
fit my egg-shaped noggin, although the added tightness around the
cheekbones took a little adjusting.

I like the Flip Up feature for communicating with others, to get a
little fresh air when stopped, and for getting in fluids on a hot day
- even with a drinking tube I still had to maneuver things a bit with
my solid Arai to get the tube to my mouth.

Compared to my Arai, the HJC helmet is more cheaply made but not to
the  point of falling apart. Even the Arai has it's little feature
parts that fell off eventually.

Noise is irrelevant to me as the screen on my bike conveniently
deposits a tornado of swirling air in front of my face at highway
speeds making any helmet seem noisy. Good ear plugs are a must.
Although the HJC does seem to let alot more air in through non-vent
locations than the Arai. For example, since there is a break in the
padding along the jaw line where the helmet flips up, there is an air
gap there. Not a bad thing when warm but I will likely stick with the
Arai in the cooler weather.

I also enjoy the built-in flip-down sun visor on the HJC.

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From Doug at pencader.com  Mon Jun 21 12:52:51 2010
From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:52:51 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ever Receive a Bad Father's Day Gift?
In-Reply-To: <8CCDF027FACF4F0-594-15A92@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTinpBYlVOQ17LlWMPGkDd_G7pxmrp5u38ApVUxr2@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTimAzaKbwsqfiR6hV2e9juhwu1W72rbD4eAICCMH@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCDEE2FD032925-594-142D6@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com>
	<030c01cb10df$2e039810$8a0ac830$@com>
	<8CCDF027FACF4F0-594-15A92@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <033d01cb1140$abd911a0$038b34e0$@com>

Tom wrote;

>>> snips

>> <<Congratulations to you and the missus for crossing another milestone 
>> in life. When does the happy couple move in?>>

> I hope to hell you meant to write "move out?"

>>> end

Bingo. While I know it's a long shot . . . is the kid any good with a wrench?

Again, congratulations to the Happy Couple!

Doug
'01 1150 GS
Bear, DE


From tpcutter at aol.com  Mon Jun 21 13:09:15 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:09:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ever Receive a Bad Father's Day Gift?
In-Reply-To: <033d01cb1140$abd911a0$038b34e0$@com>
References: <AANLkTinpBYlVOQ17LlWMPGkDd_G7pxmrp5u38ApVUxr2@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTimAzaKbwsqfiR6hV2e9juhwu1W72rbD4eAICCMH@mail.gmail.com><8CCDEE2FD032925-594-142D6@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com><030c01cb10df$2e039810$8a0ac830$@com><8CCDF027FACF4F0-594-15A92@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com>
	<033d01cb1140$abd911a0$038b34e0$@com>
Message-ID: <8CCDF5A154CD85D-2258-1A59B@webmail-d012.sysops.aol.com>


Bingo. While I know it's a long shot . . . is the kid any good with a 
wrench?\

Again, congratulations to the Happy Couple!>>

Thanks, and I was kidding. They are here for a week, then back to their 
home in Sacramento, CA. They are both teachers in the Sacramento 
Charter School program.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From wayne at 2zars.com  Mon Jun 21 12:48:02 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:48:02 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 'new' online fiche?
Message-ID: <AANLkTiln_fCK0GOe1zK2ww3d776J07oxaAae1zVsCYQs@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone looked up parts online lately? It seems the dealers now have
this 'new' system that you need to log into and, IMO, it sucks. You
can get part numbers, but there doesn't seem to be a way to feed that
info back to the ordering system and get a price.


-- 
Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 13:23:48 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:23:48 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ever Receive a Bad Father's Day Gift?
In-Reply-To: <8CCDEE2FD032925-594-142D6@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTinpBYlVOQ17LlWMPGkDd_G7pxmrp5u38ApVUxr2@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimAzaKbwsqfiR6hV2e9juhwu1W72rbD4eAICCMH@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCDEE2FD032925-594-142D6@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimfN1i3_3sIBbDNMHNqyrAHBWZuLdzwYjJUGPXX@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Tom:

Congratulations... Was yesterday the first time the kid met you?  The
acquisition of inlaws used to be a hobby of mine. I gave it up for
defusing land mines with a hammer.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 13:27:14 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:27:14 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Flip face helmets
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTintPK-fonKex7ZSsPv2xh7H3Tgk4loWPnlNclDy@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTintPK-fonKex7ZSsPv2xh7H3Tgk4loWPnlNclDy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinYUX4mCHz_SVExFoAbJ2wRl8q4DHKZsIPaurNn@mail.gmail.com>

My helmet of choice is a Nolan N-103. Very well constructed. Very
durable. I wore one through a crash. The helmet has a fine finish,
that will be marred by anything sharp or jagged, like gravel, stones,
and big insects. Otherewise, I give it five stars.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From tpcutter at aol.com  Mon Jun 21 13:31:26 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:31:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ever Receive a Bad Father's Day Gift?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimfN1i3_3sIBbDNMHNqyrAHBWZuLdzwYjJUGPXX@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinpBYlVOQ17LlWMPGkDd_G7pxmrp5u38ApVUxr2@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTimAzaKbwsqfiR6hV2e9juhwu1W72rbD4eAICCMH@mail.gmail.com><8CCDEE2FD032925-594-142D6@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTimfN1i3_3sIBbDNMHNqyrAHBWZuLdzwYjJUGPXX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCDF5D2EE0387F-2258-1AA76@webmail-d012.sysops.aol.com>


<<Congratulations... Was yesterday the first time the kid met you?  
Theacquisition of inlaws used to be a hobby of mine. I gave it up 
fordefusing land mines with a hammer.>>

Yep. We picked them up at the airport and took them on a scenic 
street-level trip to Tony Luke's for cheesesteaks. (I-95 was a 15-mile 
parking lot) It opened his eyes and may have cured his desire to move 
anywhere near his new in-laws.

So far we like him, he has a functioning brain. That is a rarity these 
days.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From Doug at pencader.com  Mon Jun 21 13:50:08 2010
From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:50:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ever Receive a Bad Father's Day Gift?
In-Reply-To: <8CCDF5A154CD85D-2258-1A59B@webmail-d012.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTinpBYlVOQ17LlWMPGkDd_G7pxmrp5u38ApVUxr2@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTimAzaKbwsqfiR6hV2e9juhwu1W72rbD4eAICCMH@mail.gmail.com><8CCDEE2FD032925-594-142D6@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com><030c01cb10df$2e039810$8a0ac830$@com><8CCDF027FACF4F0-594-15A92@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com>	<033d01cb1140$abd911a0$038b34e0$@com>
	<8CCDF5A154CD85D-2258-1A59B@webmail-d012.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <034901cb1148$ab6a9ec0$023fdc40$@com>

TC wrote;

>>> snips 

>>> Bingo. While I know it's a long shot . . . is the kid any good with a 
wrench?

>> Again, congratulations to the Happy Couple!

> Thanks, and I was kidding. They are here for a week, then back to their 
> home in Sacramento, CA. They are both teachers in the Sacramento 
> Charter School program.

>>> end

Teachers? . . . good stuff. Nice to see an attitude of "giving back" in BOTH of them. Sounds like they're off to a good start, fathers-in-law not withstanding.

Doug
'01 1150 GS
Bear, DE




From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 14:13:01 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:13:01 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is an interesting interpretation of a "full
	tank"
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinw4i97x-AwPoDBSTvJezRXCa1rW4GSUOaw9P3h@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinw4i97x-AwPoDBSTvJezRXCa1rW4GSUOaw9P3h@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil74N3G0AuHqJgBkntMx8RpFxt3K62yoGr21g4M@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2010/06/18/best-fuel-tank-of-the-month/
> (WS)
>
> Or you can tell where their priorities are. ?I suspect it could be bad
> at a traffic stop, if the seals were not in place.
>
> Eco Dan what was the capacity of the tank _before_ the customization?
>

The stock Sportster tank was 2.2 Gal.  But this is definitely not stock.

Dano

From willweir at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 14:17:03 2010
From: willweir at gmail.com (Will Weir)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:17:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is an interesting interpretation of a "full
	tank"
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil74N3G0AuHqJgBkntMx8RpFxt3K62yoGr21g4M@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinw4i97x-AwPoDBSTvJezRXCa1rW4GSUOaw9P3h@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil74N3G0AuHqJgBkntMx8RpFxt3K62yoGr21g4M@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimrI8VuZp9vGi2mNjrdAZle0O10sqWGonKvmdBm@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:

> The stock Sportster tank was 2.2 Gal. ?But this is definitely not stock.
>
> Dano
> _______________________________________________


Very clever.  I bet it makes the LEOs look twice.

Will

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 14:20:53 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:20:53 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] X-Prize, was: Doug R leaving for Colorado
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikHhcm1uezZyVTZVMup2dzewmE890SOQPaeTFQN@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikHhcm1uezZyVTZVMup2dzewmE890SOQPaeTFQN@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilg49NURrhjnRu3MulADQ-S1TtwMIkrOKrceoFy@mail.gmail.com>

>> The X-Prize ride is day after tomorrow 6/22 to Jackson MI.
>>
>> Sure you don't want to go??
>>
>> We do have space at the Jackson Travel Lodge.
>>
>
> That's a nice offer Dan. ?Let me sleep on it.
>
> --
> -- ---------------
> Doug Raymond

The address is 901 Rosehill Dr., Jackson MI   49202

My cell # is 336 991 7447

Mac-Pac member Rick Rys is also planning to fly in for the 24th-25th
to check out the competition and communicate face to face with Roger
Riedener (Peraves new CEO and X-Prize pilot).

Dano

From willweir at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 15:11:48 2010
From: willweir at gmail.com (Will Weir)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:11:48 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 R1100RS for sale
Message-ID: <AANLkTimP1QMW6wM5h28yw6xMhfOYdGR54S0GHhwpA7yO@mail.gmail.com>

All,

I guess I need to quit moping and get the word out.  I am selling my
bike.  No time to ride since I'm spending all my time with the kids
doing Dad stuff.   That's the upside :-)   My commute to work is 10 to
12 minutes and it is hardly worth gearing up for that kind of ride.
Deer thicker than fleas and fog nearly every morning.  Puh! I love
this bike and do not want to sell it, but it's not doing me any good
in the garage.

Anyway,  this bike has been well maintained and has never had a bit of
a problem.  It's been serviced by Hermy's, Tom Cutter, Max BMW and has
had one fluid change and checkup by a good local non BMW dealer.

Earlier in the year I was looking to get $5800 for it (because I think
it's worth it) but for the mac pac I'll let it go for $5200.  If the
masses think I'm crazy asking that price I may negotiate but you know
you'll pay more from a dealer :-)

Details:

Red
Sargent 3 position adjustable seat with pillion seat.
Bar backs
BMW system cases.
33k on the odometer.
Non BMW top case.
Metxler Tires have about 3 k on them.

If anyone is interested please let me know.

Thanks,

Will

Oneonta NY

From willweir at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 15:33:17 2010
From: willweir at gmail.com (Will Weir)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:33:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 R1100RS for sale
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimP1QMW6wM5h28yw6xMhfOYdGR54S0GHhwpA7yO@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimP1QMW6wM5h28yw6xMhfOYdGR54S0GHhwpA7yO@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTili36fvPfGW-IIuezteNUY63I7IdcfGTt4gkx2Q@mail.gmail.com>

I forgot to mention it has ABS.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Will Weir <willweir at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:11 AM
Subject: 1999 R1100RS for sale
To: MAC-PAC <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>


All,

I guess I need to quit moping and get the word out. ?I am selling my
bike. ?No time to ride since I'm spending all my time with the kids
doing Dad stuff. ? That's the upside :-) ? My commute to work is 10 to
12 minutes and it is hardly worth gearing up for that kind of ride.
Deer thicker than fleas and fog nearly every morning. ?Puh! I love
this bike and do not want to sell it, but it's not doing me any good
in the garage.

Anyway, ?this bike has been well maintained and has never had a bit of
a problem. ?It's been serviced by Hermy's, Tom Cutter, Max BMW and has
had one fluid change and checkup by a good local non BMW dealer.

Earlier in the year I was looking to get $5800 for it (because I think
it's worth it) but for the mac pac I'll let it go for $5200. ?If the
masses think I'm crazy asking that price I may negotiate but you know
you'll pay more from a dealer :-)

Details:

Red
Sargent 3 position adjustable seat with pillion seat.
Bar backs
BMW system cases.
33k on the odometer.
Non BMW top case.
Metxler Tires have about 3 k on them.

If anyone is interested please let me know.

Thanks,

Will

Oneonta NY

From ephoet at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 16:11:08 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:11:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 'new' online fiche?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiln_fCK0GOe1zK2ww3d776J07oxaAae1zVsCYQs@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiln_fCK0GOe1zK2ww3d776J07oxaAae1zVsCYQs@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinJs3KW30Hbzj3yQeqjKVM0ffJM0Dwk2LQpQ-rW@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Wayne Woodruff <wayne at 2zars.com> wrote:
> Anyone looked up parts online lately? It seems the dealers now have
> this 'new' system that you need to log into and, IMO, it sucks. You
> can get part numbers, but there doesn't seem to be a way to feed that
> info back to the ordering system and get a price.
>
>
> --
> Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com
> Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com
> _______________________________________________

You just need to look in the right place!
http://www.bikebandit.com/2004-bmw-motorcycle-r1100s/o/m220

Parts Diagram, part No's and price.

No logging in either.

EPH
West Chester

From tpcutter at aol.com  Mon Jun 21 16:56:32 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:56:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ever Receive a Bad Father's Day Gift?
In-Reply-To: <034901cb1148$ab6a9ec0$023fdc40$@com>
References: <AANLkTinpBYlVOQ17LlWMPGkDd_G7pxmrp5u38ApVUxr2@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTimAzaKbwsqfiR6hV2e9juhwu1W72rbD4eAICCMH@mail.gmail.com><8CCDEE2FD032925-594-142D6@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com><030c01cb10df$2e039810$8a0ac830$@com><8CCDF027FACF4F0-594-15A92@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com>	<033d01cb1140$abd911a0$038b34e0$@com>
	<8CCDF5A154CD85D-2258-1A59B@webmail-d012.sysops.aol.com>
	<034901cb1148$ab6a9ec0$023fdc40$@com>
Message-ID: <8CCDF79D5C1B65A-1B34-1377@webmail-d012.sysops.aol.com>


<<Teachers? . . . good stuff. Nice to see an attitude of "giving back" 
in BOTH of them.>>

Very much so. They work with the children that society has turned their 
backs on, and they still want to take in foster children, despite the 
fact that they are already 'expecting.'

  <<Sounds like they're off to a good start, fathers-in-law not 
withstanding.>>

We all have out albatross to bear.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 17:24:30 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:24:30 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Humor: Quote of the day!
Message-ID: <AANLkTimbM7Lt0H4J7g2bFnhOSCgb6jhfeMgU3chofFNx@mail.gmail.com>

I got this from a friend in ZA:
=====

The England soccer team went to visit an orphanage in South Africa
this morning "it?s so good to put a smile on the face's of people with
no hope, constantly struggling and facing the impossible" said Sipho
Umboto aged 6.

-- 
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Ambassador BMW MOA   |
Brian Curry          |      Is Getting Old, Getting Old?
"DEERsSLAYER"        |      Aging Factors Can be Stopped
K75RTs both coasts   |      Find out more about it at
Chester Springs PA   |      http://www.nsevideos.com

From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 17:41:54 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:41:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Next Years BMW National Rally in Bloomsburg, PA
Message-ID: <AANLkTinFPLQRMz2WSYLIuCAcbTOlGMaEkVDVXTGxS6SM@mail.gmail.com>

My friend Alex and I, took Friday off and ventured out North of
Bloomsburg towards Cherry Springs area.
Pics from Day 1&2
http://www.motoedde.com/PicasaAlbums/CS_1/

Pics from Day 2&3
http://www.motoedde.com/PicasaAlbums/CS_2/

Stunning and well maintained dirt roads up there thanks to the drillers:)

edde


-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 17:48:33 2010
From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (hugh mccann)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:48:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Next Years BMW National Rally in Bloomsburg, PA
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinFPLQRMz2WSYLIuCAcbTOlGMaEkVDVXTGxS6SM@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinFPLQRMz2WSYLIuCAcbTOlGMaEkVDVXTGxS6SM@mail.gmail.com>
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That looks like Petticote Junction Campground. I love that place.


Hugh McCann
2007 f650GS
Collegeville, pa

>

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 18:00:33 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:00:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Next Years BMW National Rally in Bloomsburg, PA
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On 6/21/10, edde m <motoedde2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Pics from Day 2&3
>  http://www.motoedde.com/PicasaAlbums/CS_2/
>
>  Stunning and well maintained dirt roads up there thanks to the drillers:)

And don't forget all the other benefits of their activity to you.

Greg Roberts can tell us more about this:
http://www.motoedde.com/PicasaAlbums/CS_2/target45.html

Likely more about these too:
http://www.motoedde.com/PicasaAlbums/CS_2/target43.html
http://www.motoedde.com/PicasaAlbums/CS_2/target40.html

Odd IMO the sign about "methanol" not methane.  Or they put some in
the lines for some reason.  Again Greg may be able to tell us what is
going on.




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From ephoet at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 18:09:58 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:09:58 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now this is an interesting interpretation of a "full
	tank"
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Will Weir <willweir at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The stock Sportster tank was 2.2 Gal. ?But this is definitely not stock.
>>
>> Dano
>> _______________________________________________
>
>
> Very clever. ?I bet it makes the LEOs look twice.
>
> Will
> _______________________________________________

Brings a whole new meaning to the word "gasohol"

Erik

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 18:34:49 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:34:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
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[DTR 6/20/2010]

I had ridden out from Philadelphia to the Rocky Mountain National Park
to enjoy a reunion with old friends.  As I left Estes Park for the
return ride I was looking on the map for some alternative to the
mind-numbing Interstates, I-80 and I-70.  There, directly between them
was US Route 36.  Though it looked like a secondary road, it made a
straight line from Denver to Indianapolis, so I gave it a try.

It was a great choice.  The road was narrow but it was easy to pass on
the straightaways, miles in length.  You could see ten miles from the
top of any rise, over the endless hay and corn fields and empty range,
surprisingly green due to recent rains.  I discovered this road is
called the Pony Express Highway in Kansas and Missouri, adding more
flavor to the route.

In the evening it was one of those great motorcycle moments.  It was
hot and clear, the low sun behind me lit up the rolling hills for
miles in every direction, and there was not a car, a person, or any
building in all that landscape but me and my motorcycle speeding down
the bluff.  I had 500 miles behind me today, and I was looking to
enjoy the remaining 1300 miles ahead.

That?s when the engine died.  I hate when that happens.

As the bike slowed I jerked the throttle around and found that holding
it wide open let the engine sputter enough to keep moving at an ever
lower speed. We limped along for 5 miles into the tiny town of
Washington, KS, where I coasted to a small parking area at the lone
gas station, Conoco 66.  The engine died completely and didn?t even
cough when I cranked it.

As I pulled out my tools and started the drill of diagnosing the
problem, a friendly local guy came up to watch, smiling broadly.  He
knew there was no BMW dealer for many miles, but he said another local
guy had a BMW and we should call him.  No thanks, I said.  But he
hailed a lady watching us from a nearby porch and told her to call
?the BMW guy?.  Meanwhile, I checked for spark on left cylinder
(good), checked for fuel pump buzz at key-on (good), removed the right
side fairing and checked fuel disconnect fittings (OK, but
troublesome). Finally I pulled a fuel injector out and verified a good
strong spritz of gas when I cranked.  Hmm, with fuel and spark it
ought to run, so this was not going to be simple.  The lady yelled
back, ?Couldn?t reach him?.

My new friend, who introduced himself as Dale, had watched all this
with interest and made some good comments, and also offered to get me
any tools I might need.  He ambled off and said he would be back in a
while to check my progress.

A while later a classic old Honda Goldwing came riding up and parked
next to my bike.  A tall lanky man got off.  ?Dale??, I said.  It
didn?t look like Dale. ?Yes?, he said, taking his helmet off,
?different Dale?.  This turned out to be ?the BMW guy?.  He never got
the phone call but just happened to ride by and notice my sick-looking
BMW coming apart in the parking lot.  It?s a small town.  Dale #2 also
watched quietly as I diagnosed, and laughed sympathetically as I
cursed things like those miserable quick-disconnects.  He seemed to
know a lot, but said little.  Eventually he said, ?It?s getting dark
and there?s no lighting here.  How would you like to do this work in
my air-conditioned motorcycle shop, on a bike lift??

?No, thanks very much, I?ll just slug it out here.  I don?t want to
put anyone to any trouble?.  Only my best friends will forgive me for
being so stupid.   Dale #2 said ?Here?s my grandson Michael, he?s a
trained Honda mechanic, he can help?.  Michael, about 16, had just
driven up in his truck.  He started lending a hand too, with some good
points on troubleshooting.  Then Dale #1 returned, with his
girlfriend.  My bike problem was getting a lot of good attention.

On a hunch, I removed the small access cover at the right-side cam
shaft.  Immediately the problem was obvious: the cam sprocket and
chain had fallen off the cam shaft! I knew also from the shop manual
that missing parts like screw and washer were likely to fall down the
chain gallery into the crankcase, in which case you have to remove and
split the engine apart to retrieve them.  This bike was not going to
get fixed in that parking lot, I thought, as darkness fell.  Also I
felt considerable chagrin, since I was the one who had mis-tightened
that cam screw during a recent repair job.

Dale #2 said, ?Now would you like to come to my shop??  I said, ?I
would be crazy not to accept your very generous offer.  Yes, thank
you?.

While Dale #2 went for a trailer, Michael and I removed the right
valve cover.  To my amazement, the missing screw and washer were
sitting there loose, and the screw thread was only slightly buggered
from the slipping sprocket.  Now there was a glimmer of hope for the
bike.  We finished buttoning up the bike parts as Dale #2 rolled in
with an enormous trailer, containing some 8 bikes already.  He and
Michael quickly pushed my bike up the ramp and we were ready to go.

Then to my surprise, Dale and Michael motioned me into a different
truck, and we drove away leaving the trailer behind.  ?There?s
something I want to show you first?, said Dale mysteriously. Shortly
we arrived at a modern metal barn at the end of a long windy driveway.
 When he switched on the light, I saw the largest, most dazzling
collection of motorcycles I had ever imagined.  Dozens of spotless,
priceless restored motorcycles of all makes, neatly lined up on a
perfect clean floor, each with historical data and photos on the wall
behind it.  Multiple models each of MV Augusta, Ducati, including a
V-4 DesmoduediciRR, BMW, Indian, Velocette, BSA, Matchless, Honda CBX
and others, LaVerda, Bimota, and many Vincents including two Black
Shadows and an Egli-Vincent.  Each was gleaming in better-than-new
factory condition, perfect in every detail. The only sign of disorder
was a row of boxes full of rusty unrecognizable junk in the middle of
the floor.  ?That?s another Vincent  Black Shadow?, said Dale, ?they
all look like that when they get here?.  It turns out that all the
restoration work, including painting, is done by Dale, with help from
Michael and another mechanic named Tracey.

Dale turns out to be Dale Keesecker, well known in vintage motorcycle
displays around the country, such as Mid-Ohio.   I?ve been to some of
these, but I don?t know many of the people involved.  And I was just
barely aware of some of the rare treasures in front of me.

My head was spinning as we left, I hoped I could remember a small part
of the gorgeous bikes there.  Then Dale revealed that actually he is a
fulltime independent farmer.  He plants 4000 acres, using the latest
no-till method.  Much of that crop goes to feed the hogs, of which he
has 20,000 at any one time.  He declares that the hogs have better
nutrition and healthcare than most people.  All work is done with
maximum efficiency so that his 20-30 employees can manage all the
hogs.  I heard many fascinating details, and wished that I had all
night just to hear about this kind of farming.  Dale was modest but
obviously sure of himself and proud of using the latest and most
environmentally friendly techniques.  All the hog waste goes back into
fertilizing his own acreage.

Now we returned to the gas station, and Dale drove me and the huge
trailer down dirt roads in a different direction, to the large
motorcycle shop in the midst of his farm buildings.  Michael followed.
 Then Tracey the mechanic showed up out of nowhere.  He had been
watching his son in a baseball game when Dale called, and he left as
soon as the game ended to come help me.  Dale said I was welcome
either to sleep in the shop, or he would loan me a pickup truck to
drive back to the one motel in town.  I was overwhelmed and said I had
never heard of such generosity and helpfulness.  Dale just smiled and
said, ?This is Kansas.?

We pushed the bike onto the bikelift in the shop. After the 90 degree
heat outside, the coolness in there was wonderful. Michael and Tracey
cleaned up the threads on the buggered screw while I removed the right
valve cover again and secured the loose cam chain and sprocket against
falling down into the engine.  First we had to check the cam chain for
kinks or breaks.  After Michael reminded me to loosen the cam chain
tensioner, we were able to temporarily install the chain and sprocket,
loosely.  With the bike in 6th gear, Tracey turned the rear wheel
carefully while Michael and I examined each successive link with a
bright shop light.  The chain was good.

Now it was a question of timing the crankshaft to the cam shaft, which
basically means getting exactly the right chain link into the right
sprocket tooth. Tracey was a top-notch mechanic and knew the
principles but had never worked on BMWs.  I had done this timing job
myself in the previous year, but the memory was a little fuzzy and I
was feeling punchy-tired by now too.  A mis-timed cam chain would
prevent running and damage the engine.  At this point we released
young Michael, who also had a big next day planned.

Skip this paragraph unless you like motorcycle mechanics.  We
carefully set the engine to TDC firing position for the LEFT side, by
Tracey turning the back wheel while I watched for the TDC flywheel
mark through the little access hole on the right side. We
double-checked by removing the LEFT valve cover and verifying
clearance at all rocker arms, so the valves were closed.  Then we
advanced the crankshaft one full turn to the next flywheel TDC mark,
so we are now at TDC firing position for the RIGHT side, as desired.
Using a big screwdriver, we nudged the slot in the camshaft to the
exactly DOWN position, and as expected we now had clearance at all the
rocker arms on this side, so the valves were certainly closed.  Now
correct alignment calls for the arrow stamped on the cam sprocket to
point exactly to 9:00, but it was pointing to more like 10:30.  So
while I held a wire hooked to the slack chain and sprocket to prevent
them from falling in, Michael carefully looped each link of the chain
forward by one tooth at a time, using a dental pick tool.  After 3
?tooths? the alignment looked exact, and I tightened up the sprocket
screw with a torque wrench. (Note1: the screw began to yield at 70
ft-lbs so I quit there. Note2: I had accepted Tracey's strong advice
to put some blue Loctite on this thread though I knew the manual did
not call for it).

We bolted back on the chain tensioner and other engine parts.  Tracey
and I looked at each other as I held my breath and pressed the
starter.  The engine ran like new!!

It was 1:30AM and Tracey expected I would go to a motel, but I was
determined to continue the ride.  I had a fair amount of cash on hand
for emergencies and I presented it to Tracey, hoping it would
partially repay his lost post-game family evening at home.  He said it
was more than enough, but I expect to do some followup here.

I zigzagged down the 2 miles of dirt road back to Route 36 in town,
and continued the ride with great pleasure, engine running fine.

A few hours later I saw the blue-red lights flashing behind me, and
pulled over.  A pleasant young officer asked, ?In a hurry, are you?  I
got you at 81 in a 65.? I said, ?No, just enjoying the ride.?  He
laughed, checked all my papers and handed them back to me.  ?No
ticket?? I asked, and he replied, ?Are you crazy?  Look, it?s 3:30 in
the morning and only you and I are on this road.  Just slow it down
for me, OK??

Then he was gone.  The darkness was so complete that I could hardly
find my gloves on the seat.  Within a minute the brightest thing
around was now the Milky Way sweeping directly overhead and I watched
it growing brighter for a while.  I think I love Kansas.

I rode home to Ambler PA without further incident.  But the
realization grew on me during the ride that I was glad that I had this
breakdown on the Pony Express Highway.


-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From j_ellenberg at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 21 18:49:32 2010
From: j_ellenberg at hotmail.com (James Ellenberg)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:49:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
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Doug,

I took that very same road back from the West Coast trip two years ago on the V-strom.  Anything to not do I-70 again.  That road is awesome and it continues all the way to Western Pennsylvania.  I gassed up at that very same gas station in Washington, KS, though I was able to keep on motoring along all the way to Hannibal before stopping for the night.  I loved reading your story.  This is exactly what makes riding so great.

Big Jim






> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:34:49 -0400
> From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com
> To: mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
> 
> [DTR 6/20/2010]
> 
> I had ridden out from Philadelphia to the Rocky Mountain National Park
> to enjoy a reunion with old friends.  As I left Estes Park for the
> return ride I was looking on the map for some alternative to the
> mind-numbing Interstates, I-80 and I-70.  There, directly between them
> was US Route 36.  Though it looked like a secondary road, it made a
> straight line from Denver to Indianapolis, so I gave it a try.
> 
> It was a great choice.  The road was narrow but it was easy to pass on
> the straightaways, miles in length.  You could see ten miles from the
> top of any rise, over the endless hay and corn fields and empty range,
> surprisingly green due to recent rains.  I discovered this road is
> called the Pony Express Highway in Kansas and Missouri, adding more
> flavor to the route.
> 
> In the evening it was one of those great motorcycle moments.  It was
> hot and clear, the low sun behind me lit up the rolling hills for
> miles in every direction, and there was not a car, a person, or any
> building in all that landscape but me and my motorcycle speeding down
> the bluff.  I had 500 miles behind me today, and I was looking to
> enjoy the remaining 1300 miles ahead.
> 
> That?s when the engine died.  I hate when that happens.
> 
> As the bike slowed I jerked the throttle around and found that holding
> it wide open let the engine sputter enough to keep moving at an ever
> lower speed. We limped along for 5 miles into the tiny town of
> Washington, KS, where I coasted to a small parking area at the lone
> gas station, Conoco 66.  The engine died completely and didn?t even
> cough when I cranked it.
> 
> As I pulled out my tools and started the drill of diagnosing the
> problem, a friendly local guy came up to watch, smiling broadly.  He
> knew there was no BMW dealer for many miles, but he said another local
> guy had a BMW and we should call him.  No thanks, I said.  But he
> hailed a lady watching us from a nearby porch and told her to call
> ?the BMW guy?.  Meanwhile, I checked for spark on left cylinder
> (good), checked for fuel pump buzz at key-on (good), removed the right
> side fairing and checked fuel disconnect fittings (OK, but
> troublesome). Finally I pulled a fuel injector out and verified a good
> strong spritz of gas when I cranked.  Hmm, with fuel and spark it
> ought to run, so this was not going to be simple.  The lady yelled
> back, ?Couldn?t reach him?.
> 
> My new friend, who introduced himself as Dale, had watched all this
> with interest and made some good comments, and also offered to get me
> any tools I might need.  He ambled off and said he would be back in a
> while to check my progress.
> 
> A while later a classic old Honda Goldwing came riding up and parked
> next to my bike.  A tall lanky man got off.  ?Dale??, I said.  It
> didn?t look like Dale. ?Yes?, he said, taking his helmet off,
> ?different Dale?.  This turned out to be ?the BMW guy?.  He never got
> the phone call but just happened to ride by and notice my sick-looking
> BMW coming apart in the parking lot.  It?s a small town.  Dale #2 also
> watched quietly as I diagnosed, and laughed sympathetically as I
> cursed things like those miserable quick-disconnects.  He seemed to
> know a lot, but said little.  Eventually he said, ?It?s getting dark
> and there?s no lighting here.  How would you like to do this work in
> my air-conditioned motorcycle shop, on a bike lift??
> 
> ?No, thanks very much, I?ll just slug it out here.  I don?t want to
> put anyone to any trouble?.  Only my best friends will forgive me for
> being so stupid.   Dale #2 said ?Here?s my grandson Michael, he?s a
> trained Honda mechanic, he can help?.  Michael, about 16, had just
> driven up in his truck.  He started lending a hand too, with some good
> points on troubleshooting.  Then Dale #1 returned, with his
> girlfriend.  My bike problem was getting a lot of good attention.
> 
> On a hunch, I removed the small access cover at the right-side cam
> shaft.  Immediately the problem was obvious: the cam sprocket and
> chain had fallen off the cam shaft! I knew also from the shop manual
> that missing parts like screw and washer were likely to fall down the
> chain gallery into the crankcase, in which case you have to remove and
> split the engine apart to retrieve them.  This bike was not going to
> get fixed in that parking lot, I thought, as darkness fell.  Also I
> felt considerable chagrin, since I was the one who had mis-tightened
> that cam screw during a recent repair job.
> 
> Dale #2 said, ?Now would you like to come to my shop??  I said, ?I
> would be crazy not to accept your very generous offer.  Yes, thank
> you?.
> 
> While Dale #2 went for a trailer, Michael and I removed the right
> valve cover.  To my amazement, the missing screw and washer were
> sitting there loose, and the screw thread was only slightly buggered
> from the slipping sprocket.  Now there was a glimmer of hope for the
> bike.  We finished buttoning up the bike parts as Dale #2 rolled in
> with an enormous trailer, containing some 8 bikes already.  He and
> Michael quickly pushed my bike up the ramp and we were ready to go.
> 
> Then to my surprise, Dale and Michael motioned me into a different
> truck, and we drove away leaving the trailer behind.  ?There?s
> something I want to show you first?, said Dale mysteriously. Shortly
> we arrived at a modern metal barn at the end of a long windy driveway.
>  When he switched on the light, I saw the largest, most dazzling
> collection of motorcycles I had ever imagined.  Dozens of spotless,
> priceless restored motorcycles of all makes, neatly lined up on a
> perfect clean floor, each with historical data and photos on the wall
> behind it.  Multiple models each of MV Augusta, Ducati, including a
> V-4 DesmoduediciRR, BMW, Indian, Velocette, BSA, Matchless, Honda CBX
> and others, LaVerda, Bimota, and many Vincents including two Black
> Shadows and an Egli-Vincent.  Each was gleaming in better-than-new
> factory condition, perfect in every detail. The only sign of disorder
> was a row of boxes full of rusty unrecognizable junk in the middle of
> the floor.  ?That?s another Vincent  Black Shadow?, said Dale, ?they
> all look like that when they get here?.  It turns out that all the
> restoration work, including painting, is done by Dale, with help from
> Michael and another mechanic named Tracey.
> 
> Dale turns out to be Dale Keesecker, well known in vintage motorcycle
> displays around the country, such as Mid-Ohio.   I?ve been to some of
> these, but I don?t know many of the people involved.  And I was just
> barely aware of some of the rare treasures in front of me.
> 
> My head was spinning as we left, I hoped I could remember a small part
> of the gorgeous bikes there.  Then Dale revealed that actually he is a
> fulltime independent farmer.  He plants 4000 acres, using the latest
> no-till method.  Much of that crop goes to feed the hogs, of which he
> has 20,000 at any one time.  He declares that the hogs have better
> nutrition and healthcare than most people.  All work is done with
> maximum efficiency so that his 20-30 employees can manage all the
> hogs.  I heard many fascinating details, and wished that I had all
> night just to hear about this kind of farming.  Dale was modest but
> obviously sure of himself and proud of using the latest and most
> environmentally friendly techniques.  All the hog waste goes back into
> fertilizing his own acreage.
> 
> Now we returned to the gas station, and Dale drove me and the huge
> trailer down dirt roads in a different direction, to the large
> motorcycle shop in the midst of his farm buildings.  Michael followed.
>  Then Tracey the mechanic showed up out of nowhere.  He had been
> watching his son in a baseball game when Dale called, and he left as
> soon as the game ended to come help me.  Dale said I was welcome
> either to sleep in the shop, or he would loan me a pickup truck to
> drive back to the one motel in town.  I was overwhelmed and said I had
> never heard of such generosity and helpfulness.  Dale just smiled and
> said, ?This is Kansas.?
> 
> We pushed the bike onto the bikelift in the shop. After the 90 degree
> heat outside, the coolness in there was wonderful. Michael and Tracey
> cleaned up the threads on the buggered screw while I removed the right
> valve cover again and secured the loose cam chain and sprocket against
> falling down into the engine.  First we had to check the cam chain for
> kinks or breaks.  After Michael reminded me to loosen the cam chain
> tensioner, we were able to temporarily install the chain and sprocket,
> loosely.  With the bike in 6th gear, Tracey turned the rear wheel
> carefully while Michael and I examined each successive link with a
> bright shop light.  The chain was good.
> 
> Now it was a question of timing the crankshaft to the cam shaft, which
> basically means getting exactly the right chain link into the right
> sprocket tooth. Tracey was a top-notch mechanic and knew the
> principles but had never worked on BMWs.  I had done this timing job
> myself in the previous year, but the memory was a little fuzzy and I
> was feeling punchy-tired by now too.  A mis-timed cam chain would
> prevent running and damage the engine.  At this point we released
> young Michael, who also had a big next day planned.
> 
> Skip this paragraph unless you like motorcycle mechanics.  We
> carefully set the engine to TDC firing position for the LEFT side, by
> Tracey turning the back wheel while I watched for the TDC flywheel
> mark through the little access hole on the right side. We
> double-checked by removing the LEFT valve cover and verifying
> clearance at all rocker arms, so the valves were closed.  Then we
> advanced the crankshaft one full turn to the next flywheel TDC mark,
> so we are now at TDC firing position for the RIGHT side, as desired.
> Using a big screwdriver, we nudged the slot in the camshaft to the
> exactly DOWN position, and as expected we now had clearance at all the
> rocker arms on this side, so the valves were certainly closed.  Now
> correct alignment calls for the arrow stamped on the cam sprocket to
> point exactly to 9:00, but it was pointing to more like 10:30.  So
> while I held a wire hooked to the slack chain and sprocket to prevent
> them from falling in, Michael carefully looped each link of the chain
> forward by one tooth at a time, using a dental pick tool.  After 3
> ?tooths? the alignment looked exact, and I tightened up the sprocket
> screw with a torque wrench. (Note1: the screw began to yield at 70
> ft-lbs so I quit there. Note2: I had accepted Tracey's strong advice
> to put some blue Loctite on this thread though I knew the manual did
> not call for it).
> 
> We bolted back on the chain tensioner and other engine parts.  Tracey
> and I looked at each other as I held my breath and pressed the
> starter.  The engine ran like new!!
> 
> It was 1:30AM and Tracey expected I would go to a motel, but I was
> determined to continue the ride.  I had a fair amount of cash on hand
> for emergencies and I presented it to Tracey, hoping it would
> partially repay his lost post-game family evening at home.  He said it
> was more than enough, but I expect to do some followup here.
> 
> I zigzagged down the 2 miles of dirt road back to Route 36 in town,
> and continued the ride with great pleasure, engine running fine.
> 
> A few hours later I saw the blue-red lights flashing behind me, and
> pulled over.  A pleasant young officer asked, ?In a hurry, are you?  I
> got you at 81 in a 65.? I said, ?No, just enjoying the ride.?  He
> laughed, checked all my papers and handed them back to me.  ?No
> ticket?? I asked, and he replied, ?Are you crazy?  Look, it?s 3:30 in
> the morning and only you and I are on this road.  Just slow it down
> for me, OK??
> 
> Then he was gone.  The darkness was so complete that I could hardly
> find my gloves on the seat.  Within a minute the brightest thing
> around was now the Milky Way sweeping directly overhead and I watched
> it growing brighter for a while.  I think I love Kansas.
> 
> I rode home to Ambler PA without further incident.  But the
> realization grew on me during the ride that I was glad that I had this
> breakdown on the Pony Express Highway.
> 
> 
> -- 
> -- ---------------
> Doug Raymond
> R1150RT '02
> Ambler, PA
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From jasiii at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 21 18:53:41 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:53:41 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
Message-ID: <33211546.1277146421770.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
>
>[DTR 6/20/2010]
>
<big snip>

Wow... Doug ... first using cans to fix your fuel injectors in Alaska and now to find a super bike restorer in Kansas to help with your latest breakdown you have to be the luckest rider in the world

Glad you were able to recover and that you were also able to see the collection of bikes.

Wow... ?? Do you ever buy a lotto ticket ?? 

Jim

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From wayne at 2zars.com  Mon Jun 21 19:13:52 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:13:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Next Years BMW National Rally in Bloomsburg, PA
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinFPLQRMz2WSYLIuCAcbTOlGMaEkVDVXTGxS6SM@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinFPLQRMz2WSYLIuCAcbTOlGMaEkVDVXTGxS6SM@mail.gmail.com>
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> My friend Alex and I, took Friday off and ventured out North of
> Bloomsburg towards Cherry Springs area.
> Pics from Day 1&2
> http://www.motoedde.com/PicasaAlbums/CS_1/
>
> Pics from Day 2&3
> http://www.motoedde.com/PicasaAlbums/CS_2/
>
> Stunning and well maintained dirt roads up there thanks to the drillers:)
>

Thank!! Stunning views!  I was thinking on a day trip to the PA GC
with my son later this summer.


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From ephoet at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 19:20:01 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:20:01 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
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Great story, Doug.  Glad you found expert help along the Pony Express
Highway in the middle of "no where". You couldn't have been off the
road more than few hours total.
You managed to break down in the best possible place, it seems!

Though I missed the part about being followed by ravenous coyotes and
prairie dogs.

For more about Dale Keesecker check out:
http://www.keesecker.com/  (the link to his MC section is down for now...)

Other pics of his collection:
http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/Motorcycle-Review/Dale-Keeseckers-Vincent-Specials.aspx
http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/Barber-Vintage-Festival-Motorcycle-Classics.aspx
http://photos.ducati.net/Motorcycles-Vickis-View/VMD-2006-MV-Agusta/1732946_CWREw/7/85638169_3T2XE#85638169_3T2XE
http://www.roadracerx.com/features/backmarker/agv-backmarker-toto-we%E2%80%99re-back-in-kansas/

Erik H
West Chester

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 19:27:15 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:27:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilESFEK7TyZq_3VuDFL4IWDrmtxHdWpTvAvC-QH@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/21/10, Doug Raymond <douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:

>  forward by one tooth at a time, using a dental pick tool.  After 3
>  ?tooths? the alignment looked exact, and I tightened up the sprocket
>  screw with a torque wrench. (Note1: the screw began to yield at 70
>  ft-lbs so I quit there. Note2: I had accepted Tracey's strong advice
>  to put some blue Loctite on this thread though I knew the manual did
>  not call for it).

70 ft lbs sounded awfully high.  I actually looked up the bolt size.
Larger than I thought at 10mmx1.25 pitch.  The K bike rear wheel
attachment bolts are 12mmx1.5 pitch and take around 70 ft lbs.

I looked it up.  R1150RT the bolt is to be tightened to 65 Nm which is
47.9 ft lbs or 50 ft lbs.
The K bike rear wheel bolts are 105Nm which is 77.5 ft lbs or 78 ft lbs.

I would say you were REAL LUCKY.

Good move on the blue Loctite, although with that tightening, coming
off is not very damn likely.

Might check the left side at home and Loctite it.

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From kgbruce1 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 19:57:22 2010
From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:57:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimTCdDjeSUXdj6eTRgFkrVJjcxySAtKVGsNQfED@mail.gmail.com>

No farmer's daughter???..... you're slipping....

Ken Bruce


On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com>wrote:

> [DTR 6/20/2010]
>
> I had ridden out from Philadelphia to the Rocky Mountain National Park
> to enjoy a reunion with old friends.  As I left Estes Park for the
> return ride I was looking on the map for some alternative to the
> mind-numbing Interstates, I-80 and I-70.  There, directly between them
> was US Route 36.  Though it looked like a secondary road, it made a
> straight line from Denver to Indianapolis, so I gave it a try.
>
> It was a great choice.  The road was narrow but it was easy to pass on
> the straightaways, miles in length.  You could see ten miles from the
> top of any rise, over the endless hay and corn fields and empty range,
> surprisingly green due to recent rains.  I discovered this road is
> called the Pony Express Highway in Kansas and Missouri, adding more
> flavor to the route.
>
> In the evening it was one of those great motorcycle moments.  It was
> hot and clear, the low sun behind me lit up the rolling hills for
> miles in every direction, and there was not a car, a person, or any
> building in all that landscape but me and my motorcycle speeding down
> the bluff.  I had 500 miles behind me today, and I was looking to
> enjoy the remaining 1300 miles ahead.
>
> That?s when the engine died.  I hate when that happens.
>
> As the bike slowed I jerked the throttle around and found that holding
> it wide open let the engine sputter enough to keep moving at an ever
> lower speed. We limped along for 5 miles into the tiny town of
> Washington, KS, where I coasted to a small parking area at the lone
> gas station, Conoco 66.  The engine died completely and didn?t even
> cough when I cranked it.
>
> As I pulled out my tools and started the drill of diagnosing the
> problem, a friendly local guy came up to watch, smiling broadly.  He
> knew there was no BMW dealer for many miles, but he said another local
> guy had a BMW and we should call him.  No thanks, I said.  But he
> hailed a lady watching us from a nearby porch and told her to call
> ?the BMW guy?.  Meanwhile, I checked for spark on left cylinder
> (good), checked for fuel pump buzz at key-on (good), removed the right
> side fairing and checked fuel disconnect fittings (OK, but
> troublesome). Finally I pulled a fuel injector out and verified a good
> strong spritz of gas when I cranked.  Hmm, with fuel and spark it
> ought to run, so this was not going to be simple.  The lady yelled
> back, ?Couldn?t reach him?.
>
> My new friend, who introduced himself as Dale, had watched all this
> with interest and made some good comments, and also offered to get me
> any tools I might need.  He ambled off and said he would be back in a
> while to check my progress.
>
> A while later a classic old Honda Goldwing came riding up and parked
> next to my bike.  A tall lanky man got off.  ?Dale??, I said.  It
> didn?t look like Dale. ?Yes?, he said, taking his helmet off,
> ?different Dale?.  This turned out to be ?the BMW guy?.  He never got
> the phone call but just happened to ride by and notice my sick-looking
> BMW coming apart in the parking lot.  It?s a small town.  Dale #2 also
> watched quietly as I diagnosed, and laughed sympathetically as I
> cursed things like those miserable quick-disconnects.  He seemed to
> know a lot, but said little.  Eventually he said, ?It?s getting dark
> and there?s no lighting here.  How would you like to do this work in
> my air-conditioned motorcycle shop, on a bike lift??
>
> ?No, thanks very much, I?ll just slug it out here.  I don?t want to
> put anyone to any trouble?.  Only my best friends will forgive me for
> being so stupid.   Dale #2 said ?Here?s my grandson Michael, he?s a
> trained Honda mechanic, he can help?.  Michael, about 16, had just
> driven up in his truck.  He started lending a hand too, with some good
> points on troubleshooting.  Then Dale #1 returned, with his
> girlfriend.  My bike problem was getting a lot of good attention.
>
> On a hunch, I removed the small access cover at the right-side cam
> shaft.  Immediately the problem was obvious: the cam sprocket and
> chain had fallen off the cam shaft! I knew also from the shop manual
> that missing parts like screw and washer were likely to fall down the
> chain gallery into the crankcase, in which case you have to remove and
> split the engine apart to retrieve them.  This bike was not going to
> get fixed in that parking lot, I thought, as darkness fell.  Also I
> felt considerable chagrin, since I was the one who had mis-tightened
> that cam screw during a recent repair job.
>
> Dale #2 said, ?Now would you like to come to my shop??  I said, ?I
> would be crazy not to accept your very generous offer.  Yes, thank
> you?.
>
> While Dale #2 went for a trailer, Michael and I removed the right
> valve cover.  To my amazement, the missing screw and washer were
> sitting there loose, and the screw thread was only slightly buggered
> from the slipping sprocket.  Now there was a glimmer of hope for the
> bike.  We finished buttoning up the bike parts as Dale #2 rolled in
> with an enormous trailer, containing some 8 bikes already.  He and
> Michael quickly pushed my bike up the ramp and we were ready to go.
>
> Then to my surprise, Dale and Michael motioned me into a different
> truck, and we drove away leaving the trailer behind.  ?There?s
> something I want to show you first?, said Dale mysteriously. Shortly
> we arrived at a modern metal barn at the end of a long windy driveway.
>  When he switched on the light, I saw the largest, most dazzling
> collection of motorcycles I had ever imagined.  Dozens of spotless,
> priceless restored motorcycles of all makes, neatly lined up on a
> perfect clean floor, each with historical data and photos on the wall
> behind it.  Multiple models each of MV Augusta, Ducati, including a
> V-4 DesmoduediciRR, BMW, Indian, Velocette, BSA, Matchless, Honda CBX
> and others, LaVerda, Bimota, and many Vincents including two Black
> Shadows and an Egli-Vincent.  Each was gleaming in better-than-new
> factory condition, perfect in every detail. The only sign of disorder
> was a row of boxes full of rusty unrecognizable junk in the middle of
> the floor.  ?That?s another Vincent  Black Shadow?, said Dale, ?they
> all look like that when they get here?.  It turns out that all the
> restoration work, including painting, is done by Dale, with help from
> Michael and another mechanic named Tracey.
>
> Dale turns out to be Dale Keesecker, well known in vintage motorcycle
> displays around the country, such as Mid-Ohio.   I?ve been to some of
> these, but I don?t know many of the people involved.  And I was just
> barely aware of some of the rare treasures in front of me.
>
> My head was spinning as we left, I hoped I could remember a small part
> of the gorgeous bikes there.  Then Dale revealed that actually he is a
> fulltime independent farmer.  He plants 4000 acres, using the latest
> no-till method.  Much of that crop goes to feed the hogs, of which he
> has 20,000 at any one time.  He declares that the hogs have better
> nutrition and healthcare than most people.  All work is done with
> maximum efficiency so that his 20-30 employees can manage all the
> hogs.  I heard many fascinating details, and wished that I had all
> night just to hear about this kind of farming.  Dale was modest but
> obviously sure of himself and proud of using the latest and most
> environmentally friendly techniques.  All the hog waste goes back into
> fertilizing his own acreage.
>
> Now we returned to the gas station, and Dale drove me and the huge
> trailer down dirt roads in a different direction, to the large
> motorcycle shop in the midst of his farm buildings.  Michael followed.
>  Then Tracey the mechanic showed up out of nowhere.  He had been
> watching his son in a baseball game when Dale called, and he left as
> soon as the game ended to come help me.  Dale said I was welcome
> either to sleep in the shop, or he would loan me a pickup truck to
> drive back to the one motel in town.  I was overwhelmed and said I had
> never heard of such generosity and helpfulness.  Dale just smiled and
> said, ?This is Kansas.?
>
> We pushed the bike onto the bikelift in the shop. After the 90 degree
> heat outside, the coolness in there was wonderful. Michael and Tracey
> cleaned up the threads on the buggered screw while I removed the right
> valve cover again and secured the loose cam chain and sprocket against
> falling down into the engine.  First we had to check the cam chain for
> kinks or breaks.  After Michael reminded me to loosen the cam chain
> tensioner, we were able to temporarily install the chain and sprocket,
> loosely.  With the bike in 6th gear, Tracey turned the rear wheel
> carefully while Michael and I examined each successive link with a
> bright shop light.  The chain was good.
>
> Now it was a question of timing the crankshaft to the cam shaft, which
> basically means getting exactly the right chain link into the right
> sprocket tooth. Tracey was a top-notch mechanic and knew the
> principles but had never worked on BMWs.  I had done this timing job
> myself in the previous year, but the memory was a little fuzzy and I
> was feeling punchy-tired by now too.  A mis-timed cam chain would
> prevent running and damage the engine.  At this point we released
> young Michael, who also had a big next day planned.
>
> Skip this paragraph unless you like motorcycle mechanics.  We
> carefully set the engine to TDC firing position for the LEFT side, by
> Tracey turning the back wheel while I watched for the TDC flywheel
> mark through the little access hole on the right side. We
> double-checked by removing the LEFT valve cover and verifying
> clearance at all rocker arms, so the valves were closed.  Then we
> advanced the crankshaft one full turn to the next flywheel TDC mark,
> so we are now at TDC firing position for the RIGHT side, as desired.
> Using a big screwdriver, we nudged the slot in the camshaft to the
> exactly DOWN position, and as expected we now had clearance at all the
> rocker arms on this side, so the valves were certainly closed.  Now
> correct alignment calls for the arrow stamped on the cam sprocket to
> point exactly to 9:00, but it was pointing to more like 10:30.  So
> while I held a wire hooked to the slack chain and sprocket to prevent
> them from falling in, Michael carefully looped each link of the chain
> forward by one tooth at a time, using a dental pick tool.  After 3
> ?tooths? the alignment looked exact, and I tightened up the sprocket
> screw with a torque wrench. (Note1: the screw began to yield at 70
> ft-lbs so I quit there. Note2: I had accepted Tracey's strong advice
> to put some blue Loctite on this thread though I knew the manual did
> not call for it).
>
> We bolted back on the chain tensioner and other engine parts.  Tracey
> and I looked at each other as I held my breath and pressed the
> starter.  The engine ran like new!!
>
> It was 1:30AM and Tracey expected I would go to a motel, but I was
> determined to continue the ride.  I had a fair amount of cash on hand
> for emergencies and I presented it to Tracey, hoping it would
> partially repay his lost post-game family evening at home.  He said it
> was more than enough, but I expect to do some followup here.
>
> I zigzagged down the 2 miles of dirt road back to Route 36 in town,
> and continued the ride with great pleasure, engine running fine.
>
> A few hours later I saw the blue-red lights flashing behind me, and
> pulled over.  A pleasant young officer asked, ?In a hurry, are you?  I
> got you at 81 in a 65.? I said, ?No, just enjoying the ride.?  He
> laughed, checked all my papers and handed them back to me.  ?No
> ticket?? I asked, and he replied, ?Are you crazy?  Look, it?s 3:30 in
> the morning and only you and I are on this road.  Just slow it down
> for me, OK??
>
> Then he was gone.  The darkness was so complete that I could hardly
> find my gloves on the seat.  Within a minute the brightest thing
> around was now the Milky Way sweeping directly overhead and I watched
> it growing brighter for a while.  I think I love Kansas.
>
> I rode home to Ambler PA without further incident.  But the
> realization grew on me during the ride that I was glad that I had this
> breakdown on the Pony Express Highway.
>
>
> --
> -- ---------------
> Doug Raymond
> R1150RT '02
> Ambler, PA
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From doehler at verizon.net  Mon Jun 21 20:00:24 2010
From: doehler at verizon.net (Dave Oehler)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:00:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Flip face helmets
References: <AANLkTintPK-fonKex7ZSsPv2xh7H3Tgk4loWPnlNclDy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1012D0ECE5AC409E8CF7DA587CDCADB3@IBM26EEF0D6CE2>

I just picked up a HJC Symax II.  I replaced my 5 year old Shoie filp up. 
No sure if it is more or less as quiet but it fits as nice.  Planet Honda on 
202 came close to matching the on-line guys and the were very helpful. $249 
out the door, regular retail was $299. I am headed to PEI, CA via a zig zag 
through Maine leaving on Wed.  I will have a better idea how loud it is when 
I start putting more than some local miles in it...


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To: "mac-Pac" <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 8:11 PM
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Flip face helmets


>I am looking to get a new helmet, and am considering a flip face.
> Seeking recommendations as to brand, model, noise, price, quality,
> where to buy, sizing, etc.
>
> Thanks
>
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From publicadjuster at comcast.net  Sun Jun 20 17:36:56 2010
From: publicadjuster at comcast.net (Marc Grossman)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:36:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Philly Triathilon Moto-Marshalls
Message-ID: <652F225D-E418-43E8-A135-9258713082E1@comcast.net>

Folks,
Happy Father's Day to all who participate!
I am in need of a few good men or women to help moto-marshall the Phila. Triathlon next weekend and the women's SheRox triathlon the first weekend of August. 
The duties are to carry either a race official or journalist on the back of their bike. This is a closed course on the East & West River Drives (also known as the Kelly and MLK Drives for you folks not from Philly). This is a fun run and payment will be made in the form of t-shirts and food. Total time involved is from 7am to 10:30-11am. so you still have the rest of the day to enjoy. 

Here are the dates:
Philly Tri weekend (June 26th and June 27th)  SheROX weekend (August 1)

Please ping me off list if you have any interest, this is a fun time and my 5th year of chairing.

Marc

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 21:06:41 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:06:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinCwAaasiU4Eo-N2sKy56i9RX3RVZ70Sxll3dod@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Erik Hoet <ephoet at gmail.com> wrote:
> Great story, Doug. ?Glad you found expert help along the Pony Express
> Highway in the middle of "no where". You couldn't have been off the
> road more than few hours total.
> You managed to break down in the best possible place, it seems!
>
> Though I missed the part about being followed by ravenous coyotes and
> prairie dogs.
>
> For more about Dale Keesecker check out:
> http://www.keesecker.com/ ?(the link to his MC section is down for now...)
>
> Other pics of his collection:
> http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/Motorcycle-Review/Dale-Keeseckers-Vincent-Specials.aspx
> http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/Barber-Vintage-Festival-Motorcycle-Classics.aspx
> http://photos.ducati.net/Motorcycles-Vickis-View/VMD-2006-MV-Agusta/1732946_CWREw/7/85638169_3T2XE#85638169_3T2XE
> http://www.roadracerx.com/features/backmarker/agv-backmarker-toto-we%E2%80%99re-back-in-kansas/
>
> Erik H
> West Chester
>

Erik, thanks for those great links.  The first and last ones are long
but well-written.  They bring out the thoughtful, artistic but casual
personality of this pig farmer and motorcycle specialist.  One of them
gives a good glimpse of the motorcycle barn.

They also allowed me to make a few corrections to my story, like I
omitted the Moto Guzzis and the pig total is actually 40,000.

I have PDF'd the story with embedded photos, and sent it to Wayne for
posting on MacPac.  The PDF version is much more readable.

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Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 22:30:15 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:30:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: "Gasland" on HBO this evening at @9P (ET)
Message-ID: <AANLkTinqclltL5YmgiN8xv2Agn-w3_rwfvFRPfXsjIh4@mail.gmail.com>

Greg Roberts tipped me to the showing.

Some Websites:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/06/21/127988546/gasland-hbo-gas-drilling-film-exposes-drinking-water-worries
http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/gasland/index.html
http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/gasland/video/gasland.html
(I did not check for WSness extensively)

I think someone posted a bunch of Youtube video's about this earlier.

I like the tone of some of the articles where the "problem" is the
"energy industries" and "Me, the writer have nothing to do with it at
all."  I just want all my conveniences to be there when I want them at
a CHEAP price.

I noted the "frack pond" in edde's shot that was lined etc.  I am
kinda surprised he was able to get as  close to the drill site as he
did.  Although I have also followed the power cable out to the
stripping machine in the strip mine too.  No one was there and no gate
so I can go out right???


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From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 22:58:10 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:58:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Next Years BMW National Rally in Bloomsburg, PA
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilcSNvNJldR26BqUjrTcjV9uRZrgkWlM02OeMBw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinFPLQRMz2WSYLIuCAcbTOlGMaEkVDVXTGxS6SM@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilcSNvNJldR26BqUjrTcjV9uRZrgkWlM02OeMBw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/21/10, edde m <motoedde2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ?Pics from Day 2&3
>> ?http://www.motoedde.com/PicasaAlbums/CS_2/
>>
>> ?Stunning and well maintained dirt roads up there thanks to the drillers:)
>
> And don't forget all the other benefits of their activity to you.
>
> Greg Roberts can tell us more about this:
> http://www.motoedde.com/PicasaAlbums/CS_2/target45.html
>
> Likely more about these too:
> http://www.motoedde.com/PicasaAlbums/CS_2/target43.html
> http://www.motoedde.com/PicasaAlbums/CS_2/target40.html
>
> Odd IMO the sign about "methanol" not methane. ?Or they put some in
> the lines for some reason. ?Again Greg may be able to tell us what is
> going on.


Or watch this...tonight on HBO. Thanks for the tip Brian and Greg.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/06/21/127988546/gasland-hbo-gas-drilling-film-exposes-drinking-water-worries

I'd be curious as I don't know much about this and any info Greg could
shed light on would be helpful.
Incidentally, the drilling rig belonged to these guys...
http://www.hpinc.com/about.htm

They weren't very talkative...but I did remind them of my rights to be
on the road and not on their leased property(the pad).  Being that is
was a state forest they're drilling in, the access roads they
build/use are open to the general public.

-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 23:02:11 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:02:11 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Next Years BMW National Rally in Bloomsburg, PA
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimXDXWMXx9IWwlhGi5GK7r0ng-SCtG6OozB58AG@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinFPLQRMz2WSYLIuCAcbTOlGMaEkVDVXTGxS6SM@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimXDXWMXx9IWwlhGi5GK7r0ng-SCtG6OozB58AG@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:48 PM, hugh mccann <hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com> wrote:
> That looks like Petticote Junction Campground. I love that place.
>


Great spot Hugh.  It was a surprisingly nice campground considering we
made no plans for the trip...let alone lodging or dinner!
Highly recommend that campground...Cedar Run, PA.
Within 1/4 mile is a trailhead to a state maintained gravel road that
interconnects to state forest roads that lead you to the Western Rim
of the PA Grand Canyon. This was a complete accidental find on our
part....as we were hoping to connect from Rt414 to Rt 6 on our way to
Cherry Springs.
HTH

edde


-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From gary5410 at aol.com  Mon Jun 21 23:17:24 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:17:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCDFAF0AE894D0-D1C-309A@Webmail-m105.sysops.aol.com>

Doug,
What a great story! You sure know where to breakdown.........some of 
your favorite memories have to be when you breakdown! Great job..fixin' 
the bike and the writing! Sure wish you had this documented with pics. 
;-)
Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure


-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Raymond <douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com>
To: Mac-Pac <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 21, 2010 2:34 pm
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway


[DTR 6/20/2010]

I had ridden out from Philadelphia to the Rocky Mountain National Park
to enjoy a reunion with old friends.  As I left Estes Park for the
return ride I was looking on the map for some alternative to the
mind-numbing Interstates, I-80 and I-70.  There, directly between them
was US Route 36.  Though it looked like a secondary road, it made a
straight line from Denver to Indianapolis, so I gave it a try.

It was a great choice.  The road was narrow but it was easy to pass on
the straightaways, miles in length.  You could see ten miles from the
top of any rise, over the endless hay and corn fields and empty range,
surprisingly green due to recent rains.  I discovered this road is
called the Pony Express Highway in Kansas and Missouri, adding more
flavor to the route.

In the evening it was one of those great motorcycle moments.  It was
hot and clear, the low sun behind me lit up the rolling hills for
miles in every direction, and there was not a car, a person, or any
building in all that landscape but me and my motorcycle speeding down
the bluff.  I had 500 miles behind me today, and I was looking to
enjoy the remaining 1300 miles ahead.

That?s when the engine died.  I hate when that happens.

As the bike slowed I jerked the throttle around and found that holding
it wide open let the engine sputter enough to keep moving at an ever
lower speed. We limped along for 5 miles into the tiny town of
Washington, KS, where I coasted to a small parking area at the lone
gas station, Conoco 66.  The engine died completely and didn?t even
cough when I cranked it.

As I pulled out my tools and started the drill of diagnosing the
problem, a friendly local guy came up to watch, smiling broadly.  He
knew there was no BMW dealer for many miles, but he said another local
guy had a BMW and we should call him.  No thanks, I said.  But he
hailed a lady watching us from a nearby porch and told her to call
?the BMW guy?.  Meanwhile, I checked for spark on left cylinder
(good), checked for fuel pump buzz at key-on (good), removed the right
side fairing and checked fuel disconnect fittings (OK, but
troublesome). Finally I pulled a fuel injector out and verified a good
strong spritz of gas when I cranked.  Hmm, with fuel and spark it
ought to run, so this was not going to be simple.  The lady yelled
back, ?Couldn?t reach him?.

My new friend, who introduced himself as Dale, had watched all this
with interest and made some good comments, and also offered to get me
any tools I might need.  He ambled off and said he would be back in a
while to check my progress.

A while later a classic old Honda Goldwing came riding up and parked
next to my bike.  A tall lanky man got off.  ?Dale??, I said.  It
didn?t look like Dale. ?Yes?, he said, taking his helmet off,
?different Dale?.  This turned out to be ?the BMW guy?.  He never got
the phone call but just happened to ride by and notice my sick-looking
BMW coming apart in the parking lot.  It?s a small town.  Dale #2 also
watched quietly as I diagnosed, and laughed sympathetically as I
cursed things like those miserable quick-disconnects.  He seemed to
know a lot, but said little.  Eventually he said, ?It?s getting dark
and there?s no lighting here.  How would you like to do this work in
my air-conditioned motorcycle shop, on a bike lift??

?No, thanks very much, I?ll just slug it out here.  I don?t want to
put anyone to any trouble?.  Only my best friends will forgive me for
being so stupid.   Dale #2 said ?Here?s my grandson Michael, he?s a
trained Honda mechanic, he can help?.  Michael, about 16, had just
driven up in his truck.  He started lending a hand too, with some good
points on troubleshooting.  Then Dale #1 returned, with his
girlfriend.  My bike problem was getting a lot of good attention.

On a hunch, I removed the small access cover at the right-side cam
shaft.  Immediately the problem was obvious: the cam sprocket and
chain had fallen off the cam shaft! I knew also from the shop manual
that missing parts like screw and washer were likely to fall down the
chain gallery into the crankcase, in which case you have to remove and
split the engine apart to retrieve them.  This bike was not going to
get fixed in that parking lot, I thought, as darkness fell.  Also I
felt considerable chagrin, since I was the one who had mis-tightened
that cam screw during a recent repair job.

Dale #2 said, ?Now would you like to come to my shop??  I said, ?I
would be crazy not to accept your very generous offer.  Yes, thank
you?.

While Dale #2 went for a trailer, Michael and I removed the right
valve cover.  To my amazement, the missing screw and washer were
sitting there loose, and the screw thread was only slightly buggered
from the slipping sprocket.  Now there was a glimmer of hope for the
bike.  We finished buttoning up the bike parts as Dale #2 rolled in
with an enormous trailer, containing some 8 bikes already.  He and
Michael quickly pushed my bike up the ramp and we were ready to go.

Then to my surprise, Dale and Michael motioned me into a different
truck, and we drove away leaving the trailer behind.  ?There?s
something I want to show you first?, said Dale mysteriously. Shortly
we arrived at a modern metal barn at the end of a long windy driveway.
 When he switched on the light, I saw the largest, most dazzling
collection of motorcycles I had ever imagined.  Dozens of spotless,
priceless restored motorcycles of all makes, neatly lined up on a
perfect clean floor, each with historical data and photos on the wall
behind it.  Multiple models each of MV Augusta, Ducati, including a
V-4 DesmoduediciRR, BMW, Indian, Velocette, BSA, Matchless, Honda CBX
and others, LaVerda, Bimota, and many Vincents including two Black
Shadows and an Egli-Vincent.  Each was gleaming in better-than-new
factory condition, perfect in every detail. The only sign of disorder
was a row of boxes full of rusty unrecognizable junk in the middle of
the floor.  ?That?s another Vincent  Black Shadow?, said Dale, ?they
all look like that when they get here?.  It turns out that all the
restoration work, including painting, is done by Dale, with help from
Michael and another mechanic named Tracey.

Dale turns out to be Dale Keesecker, well known in vintage motorcycle
displays around the country, such as Mid-Ohio.   I?ve been to some of
these, but I don?t know many of the people involved.  And I was just
barely aware of some of the rare treasures in front of me.

My head was spinning as we left, I hoped I could remember a small part
of the gorgeous bikes there.  Then Dale revealed that actually he is a
fulltime independent farmer.  He plants 4000 acres, using the latest
no-till method.  Much of that crop goes to feed the hogs, of which he
has 20,000 at any one time.  He declares that the hogs have better
nutrition and healthcare than most people.  All work is done with
maximum efficiency so that his 20-30 employees can manage all the
hogs.  I heard many fascinating details, and wished that I had all
night just to hear about this kind of farming.  Dale was modest but
obviously sure of himself and proud of using the latest and most
environmentally friendly techniques.  All the hog waste goes back into
fertilizing his own acreage.

Now we returned to the gas station, and Dale drove me and the huge
trailer down dirt roads in a different direction, to the large
motorcycle shop in the midst of his farm buildings.  Michael followed.
 Then Tracey the mechanic showed up out of nowhere.  He had been
watching his son in a baseball game when Dale called, and he left as
soon as the game ended to come help me.  Dale said I was welcome
either to sleep in the shop, or he would loan me a pickup truck to
drive back to the one motel in town.  I was overwhelmed and said I had
never heard of such generosity and helpfulness.  Dale just smiled and
said, ?This is Kansas.?

We pushed the bike onto the bikelift in the shop. After the 90 degree
heat outside, the coolness in there was wonderful. Michael and Tracey
cleaned up the threads on the buggered screw while I removed the right
valve cover again and secured the loose cam chain and sprocket against
falling down into the engine.  First we had to check the cam chain for
kinks or breaks.  After Michael reminded me to loosen the cam chain
tensioner, we were able to temporarily install the chain and sprocket,
loosely.  With the bike in 6th gear, Tracey turned the rear wheel
carefully while Michael and I examined each successive link with a
bright shop light.  The chain was good.

Now it was a question of timing the crankshaft to the cam shaft, which
basically means getting exactly the right chain link into the right
sprocket tooth. Tracey was a top-notch mechanic and knew the
principles but had never worked on BMWs.  I had done this timing job
myself in the previous year, but the memory was a little fuzzy and I
was feeling punchy-tired by now too.  A mis-timed cam chain would
prevent running and damage the engine.  At this point we released
young Michael, who also had a big next day planned.

Skip this paragraph unless you like motorcycle mechanics.  We
carefully set the engine to TDC firing position for the LEFT side, by
Tracey turning the back wheel while I watched for the TDC flywheel
mark through the little access hole on the right side. We
double-checked by removing the LEFT valve cover and verifying
clearance at all rocker arms, so the valves were closed.  Then we
advanced the crankshaft one full turn to the next flywheel TDC mark,
so we are now at TDC firing position for the RIGHT side, as desired.
Using a big screwdriver, we nudged the slot in the camshaft to the
exactly DOWN position, and as expected we now had clearance at all the
rocker arms on this side, so the valves were certainly closed.  Now
correct alignment calls for the arrow stamped on the cam sprocket to
point exactly to 9:00, but it was pointing to more like 10:30.  So
while I held a wire hooked to the slack chain and sprocket to prevent
them from falling in, Michael carefully looped each link of the chain
forward by one tooth at a time, using a dental pick tool.  After 3
?tooths? the alignment looked exact, and I tightened up the sprocket
screw with a torque wrench. (Note1: the screw began to yield at 70
ft-lbs so I quit there. Note2: I had accepted Tracey's strong advice
to put some blue Loctite on this thread though I knew the manual did
not call for it).

We bolted back on the chain tensioner and other engine parts.  Tracey
and I looked at each other as I held my breath and pressed the
starter.  The engine ran like new!!

It was 1:30AM and Tracey expected I would go to a motel, but I was
determined to continue the ride.  I had a fair amount of cash on hand
for emergencies and I presented it to Tracey, hoping it would
partially repay his lost post-game family evening at home.  He said it
was more than enough, but I expect to do some followup here.

I zigzagged down the 2 miles of dirt road back to Route 36 in town,
and continued the ride with great pleasure, engine running fine.

A few hours later I saw the blue-red lights flashing behind me, and
pulled over.  A pleasant young officer asked, ?In a hurry, are you?  I
got you at 81 in a 65.? I said, ?No, just enjoying the ride.?  He
laughed, checked all my papers and handed them back to me.  ?No
ticket?? I asked, and he replied, ?Are you crazy?  Look, it?s 3:30 in
the morning and only you and I are on this road.  Just slow it down
for me, OK??

Then he was gone.  The darkness was so complete that I could hardly
find my gloves on the seat.  Within a minute the brightest thing
around was now the Milky Way sweeping directly overhead and I watched
it growing brighter for a while.  I think I love Kansas.

I rode home to Ambler PA without further incident.  But the
realization grew on me during the ride that I was glad that I had this
breakdown on the Pony Express Highway.


--
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA
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From gary5410 at aol.com  Mon Jun 21 23:21:15 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:21:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimTCdDjeSUXdj6eTRgFkrVJjcxySAtKVGsNQfED@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimTCdDjeSUXdj6eTRgFkrVJjcxySAtKVGsNQfED@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCDFAF94B12572-D1C-3142@Webmail-m105.sysops.aol.com>

I think he intentionally left that part out! Just like he never told us 
about that beautiful Cree woman!
Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Bruce <kgbruce1 at gmail.com>
To: Doug Raymond <douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com>



No farmer's daughter???..... you're slipping....

Ken Bruce



From Ducdude at verizon.net  Mon Jun 21 23:51:05 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:51:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ever Receive a Bad Father's Day Gift?
References: <12203726.1277078371183.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8C39844910D04B68B3958EF2B4B41BCB@heilveil5e3fdd>




> >Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Ever Receive a Bad Father's Day Gift?
>>
>>I got a new son-in-law for Father's Day. That'll work. Beats the shyt 
>>outta a necktie or a pile of plastic doody.
>>
>>-- 
>>Tom Cutter
> 
> Congratulation ..  I only got a card :->
> 
> Jim
> 
> James Sterling III

I got permission to go to the /5 rally in WVa...But no Card..:-(

DaDa Duc

From gary5410 at aol.com  Tue Jun 22 00:00:06 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:00:06 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Next Years BMW National Rally in Bloomsburg, PA
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinFPLQRMz2WSYLIuCAcbTOlGMaEkVDVXTGxS6SM@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinFPLQRMz2WSYLIuCAcbTOlGMaEkVDVXTGxS6SM@mail.gmail.com>
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Great shots!
Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure


-----Original Message-----
From: edde m <motoedde2 at gmail.com>
To: mac-Pac <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 21, 2010 1:41 pm
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Next Years BMW National Rally in Bloomsburg, PA


My friend Alex and I, took Friday off and ventured out North of
Bloomsburg towards Cherry Springs area.
Pics from Day 1&2
http://www.motoedde.com/PicasaAlbums/CS_1/

Pics from Day 2&3
http://www.motoedde.com/PicasaAlbums/CS_2/

Stunning and well maintained dirt roads up there thanks to the 
drillers:)

edde


--
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde
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From gary5410 at aol.com  Tue Jun 22 00:06:52 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:06:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Next Years BMW National Rally in Bloomsburg, PA
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinaT8Cpao5oCY-qSwEfqy5fDALrgBUxIiQn0bu9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinFPLQRMz2WSYLIuCAcbTOlGMaEkVDVXTGxS6SM@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTimXDXWMXx9IWwlhGi5GK7r0ng-SCtG6OozB58AG@mail.gmail.com>
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We have a cabin 1 mile north of Slate Run on Rt 414. It's on the right 
just before the bridge....don't get up there much tho'
Beautiful up there!
http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Cabin-07/11266521_qXK32#794163810_ZTM8y

Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure


-----Original Message-----
From: edde m <motoedde2 at gmail.com>

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 00:42:12 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:42:12 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] X-Prize, was: Doug R leaving for Colorado
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilg49NURrhjnRu3MulADQ-S1TtwMIkrOKrceoFy@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikHhcm1uezZyVTZVMup2dzewmE890SOQPaeTFQN@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilg49NURrhjnRu3MulADQ-S1TtwMIkrOKrceoFy@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The X-Prize ride is day after tomorrow 6/22 to Jackson MI.
>>>
>>> Sure you don't want to go??
>>>
>>> We do have space at the Jackson Travel Lodge.
>>>
>>
>> That's a nice offer Dan. ?Let me sleep on it.
>>
>> --
>> -- ---------------
>> Doug Raymond
>
> The address is 901 Rosehill Dr., Jackson MI ? 49202
>
> My cell # is 336 991 7447
>
> Mac-Pac member Rick Rys is also planning to fly in for the 24th-25th
> to check out the competition and communicate face to face with Roger
> Riedener (Peraves new CEO and X-Prize pilot).
>

Dan,
I can't make it for tomorrow (Tuesday), but what is the final track
run of the 2 eTracers, and how much longer will they be in Jackson for
observation?

I wish you all success tomorrow.  Sounds like the eTracer will win hands down.
-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 00:47:32 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:47:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilOYA2CZGUYBIBNVltFndbLjq2C-ZCuaZmlYPea@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Doug:

You wrote:

" We
carefully set the engine to TDC firing position for the LEFT side, by
Tracey turning the back wheel while I watched for the TDC flywheel
mark through the little access hole on the right side. We
double-checked by removing the LEFT valve cover and verifying
clearance at all rocker arms, so the valves were closed.  Then we
advanced the crankshaft one full turn to the next flywheel TDC mark,
so we are now at TDC firing position for the RIGHT side, as desired.
Using a big screwdriver, we nudged the slot in the camshaft to the
exactly DOWN position, and as expected we now had clearance at all the
rocker arms on this side, so the valves were certainly closed.  Now
correct alignment calls for the arrow stamped on the cam sprocket to
point exactly to 9:00, but it was pointing to more like 10:30.  So
while I held a wire hooked to the slack chain and sprocket to prevent
them from falling in, Michael carefully looped each link of the chain
forward by one tooth at a time, using a dental pick tool.  After 3
?tooths? the alignment looked exact, and I tightened up the sprocket
screw with a torque wrench."

That's exactly what I would have done. I'm sorry I wan't there with you.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 00:57:49 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:57:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Flip face helmets
In-Reply-To: <1012D0ECE5AC409E8CF7DA587CDCADB3@IBM26EEF0D6CE2>
References: <AANLkTintPK-fonKex7ZSsPv2xh7H3Tgk4loWPnlNclDy@mail.gmail.com>
	<1012D0ECE5AC409E8CF7DA587CDCADB3@IBM26EEF0D6CE2>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikNCKBVQlrw4PZuDGEySaKv8Vl25shZ50EgpCSS@mail.gmail.com>

I didn't know that there was a town called PEI in California.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jaburke4 at verizon.net  Tue Jun 22 01:15:10 2010
From: jaburke4 at verizon.net (John Burkhauser)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:15:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:Just because you can, should you?
Message-ID: <074A0913-DD68-4640-AC6C-72D5A501FE48@verizon.net>


http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/06/video-how-to-load-a-commercial-dump-truck-onto-a-sailboat/



John Burkhauser
jaburke4 at verizon.net



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From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Tue Jun 22 01:23:11 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 01:23:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Claussville!
Message-ID: <1393402140.8869871277169791937.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

My wife and I were out today and we stumbled on the town of Claussville PA. Excellent! Pics at: http://nmwyg.blogspot.com 


John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From honeybrk at dejazzd.com  Tue Jun 22 01:29:33 2010
From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:29:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Duryea Hillclimb This Weekend
Message-ID: <01fc01cb11aa$5e7ec570$4101a8c0@FastHP>

The Blue Mountain Region SCCA hosts the longest hill in the PHA series. 
Named for the obscure automobile maker and following the same route that 
Charles Duryea used to test his cars, this is a 2.3 mile hill located in a 
beautiful city park in downtown Reading, PA.  June 26,27,

www.pahillclimb.org   Click on Pagoda for information


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 01:48:29 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:48:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:Just because you can, should you?
In-Reply-To: <074A0913-DD68-4640-AC6C-72D5A501FE48@verizon.net>
References: <074A0913-DD68-4640-AC6C-72D5A501FE48@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik278SpiDKMEeMPNpgGKIDJfeExf_lGpiVFK2xX@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/21/10, John Burkhauser <jaburke4 at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>  http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/06/video-how-to-load-a-commercial-dump-truck-onto-a-sailboat/

I wonder how they know it is a Mack?

Rather amazing.  However, considering the boats that get to Florida
loaded with refugees, maybe not.

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From wayne at 2zars.com  Tue Jun 22 02:01:47 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:01:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug's story has been posted
Message-ID: <8b60261mbktncaq0cvu03l4s91h1ap9ce7@4ax.com>


http://2zars.com/mp/2010/06/21/breakdown-on-the-pony-express-highway/


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From Braveirwin at aol.com  Tue Jun 22 02:14:13 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:14:13 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] X-Prize, was: Doug R leaving for Colorado
Message-ID: <30636.5165b99.39517675@aol.com>



In a message dated 6/21/2010 10:21:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
whitfield.dan at gmail.com writes:


Mac-Pac member Rick Rys is also planning to fly in for the  24th-25th
to check out the competition and communicate face to face with  Roger
Riedener (Peraves new CEO and X-Prize  pilot).

Dano
=======================================
Dan, I thought Peraves was out of business for good when their plant  
burned. What's the story?  Roddy.


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From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 02:22:59 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:22:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Next Years BMW National Rally in Bloomsburg, PA
In-Reply-To: <8CCDFB5F3CCC70A-D1C-37A8@Webmail-m105.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTinFPLQRMz2WSYLIuCAcbTOlGMaEkVDVXTGxS6SM@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimXDXWMXx9IWwlhGi5GK7r0ng-SCtG6OozB58AG@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinaT8Cpao5oCY-qSwEfqy5fDALrgBUxIiQn0bu9@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCDFB5F3CCC70A-D1C-37A8@Webmail-m105.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinzQG5aZYtiOwR4wWcEZWEpKursiXt6rjDfel2R@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Gary Christman <gary5410 at aol.com> wrote:
> We have a cabin 1 mile north of Slate Run on Rt 414. It's on the right just
> before the bridge....don't get up there much tho'
> Beautiful up there!
> http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Cabin-07/11266521_qXK32#794163810_ZTM8y

Thanks for sharing...that's some beautiful area back there!
At the North/East end of the bridge(in your pic) is the trailhead to
some sweet dirt trails that eventually connect to Colton...have you
tried those yet?
I only know about this as we got lost on the tracks back there and
when we saw the bridge...it jogged our memory!

edde


-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From Braveirwin at aol.com  Tue Jun 22 02:31:39 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:31:39 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
Message-ID: <3143c.71423543.39517a8b@aol.com>



In a message dated 6/21/2010 2:35:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com writes:


I  rode home to Ambler PA without further incident.  But the
realization  grew on me during the ride that I was glad that I had this
breakdown on the  Pony Express  Highway.
======================================================
What a great story, Doug. As only you can create.  Roddy.


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From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 02:53:15 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:53:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] X-Prize, was: Doug R leaving for Colorado
In-Reply-To: <30636.5165b99.39517675@aol.com>
References: <30636.5165b99.39517675@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim4zdO665IlelT0ss874T3jgvhcH1U1tB5vizG5@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:14 PM,  <Braveirwin at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 6/21/2010 10:21:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> whitfield.dan at gmail.com writes:
>
> Mac-Pac member Rick Rys is also planning to fly in for the 24th-25th
> to check out the competition and communicate face to face with Roger
> Riedener (Peraves new CEO and X-Prize pilot).
>
> Dano
>
> =======================================
> Dan, I thought Peraves was out of business for good when their plant burned.
> What's the story?? Roddy.
>

Roddy, do you have a link to that story?  First I've heard of it.

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 03:17:15 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:17:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <3143c.71423543.39517a8b@aol.com>
References: <3143c.71423543.39517a8b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinN28N9e-__6iIchFJnhkcT_mIESGMSSCIa8ogD@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to Wayne for posting the PDF file with some corrections and photos.

Please read the story from this link:
http://2zars.com/mp/2010/06/21/breakdown-on-the-pony-express-highway/

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Tue Jun 22 10:23:51 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 06:23:51 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C2056F7.14394.149ABB@localhost>



> [DTR 6/20/2010]
> 
> I had ridden out from Philadelphia to the Rocky Mountain National Park
> to enjoy a reunion with old friends.  
Snip...
> I rode home to Ambler PA without further incident.  But the
> realization grew on me during the ride that I was glad that I had this
> breakdown on the Pony Express Highway.
> 

Great story.  Great adventure.  I am glad you and the bike are OK.

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From corey.lyba at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 10:38:52 2010
From: corey.lyba at gmail.com (Corey Lyba)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 06:38:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Duryea Hillclimb This Weekend
In-Reply-To: <01fc01cb11aa$5e7ec570$4101a8c0@FastHP>
References: <01fc01cb11aa$5e7ec570$4101a8c0@FastHP>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilYPVIKkLNfOipQqDMaqy0TYQFBgqUgxqWMtzPv@mail.gmail.com>

I will be there with friends BBQ'in and having fun. Everyone is
welcome to join. You must walk up the hill though, to get to a good
viewing spot. Bring food and drink, because they do not have vendors
like at other races. This is more like watching a rally race in the
woods.

Corey

From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net  Tue Jun 22 11:27:03 2010
From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:27:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Who's heading to Redmond OR
Message-ID: <694D186A2E6C424495E74EC506297F79@home.robinson.org>

Who's riding out to the national in Redmond OR?
I'm planning on leaving July 11 early morning.
Anyone else?
 
Jim Robinson
West Chester PA


From saylorspond at comcast.net  Tue Jun 22 11:47:53 2010
From: saylorspond at comcast.net (saylorspond at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:47:53 +0000
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Who's heading to Redmond OR
Message-ID: <2133902383-1277207263-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1038737047-@bda285.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I am planning on leaving July 7, riding to Colorado Springs to pick up my son, and then head up to Cheyenne WY.  From there we leave July 13 to participate in the SS1000 to Redmond (2 up).

Scott
1999 R1100RT-P
------Original Message------
From: Jim Robinson
Sender: mac-pac-l-bounces+saylorspond=comcast.net at jtan.com
To: MAC-PAC
ReplyTo: Jim Robinson
Sent: Jun 22, 2010 7:27 AM
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Who's heading to Redmond OR

Who's riding out to the national in Redmond OR?
I'm planning on leaving July 11 early morning.
Anyone else?
 
Jim Robinson
West Chester PA

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From Buzbiker1 at aol.com  Tue Jun 22 13:24:09 2010
From: Buzbiker1 at aol.com (Buzbiker1 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:24:09 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
Message-ID: <51b9f.5dd91e03.39521379@aol.com>

Doug,
 
HOW ABOUT THOSE KANSANS!!!!!  You are one lucky S.O.B.!!!   Awesome story 
and in a few years you should chronicle all your adventures  in a book which 
would make for some great reading by all who love two  wheels.
 
Lucky, lucky and lucky!!!
 
Buzz
 
P.S.  Time for a new bike????
 
Buzz  Davis
337 Beaumont Road
Devon, PA.  19333
610-574-0927
buzbiker1 at aol.com  

 
In a message dated 6/21/2010 11:17:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com writes:

http://2zars.com/mp/2010/06/21/breakdown-on-the-pony-express-highway/


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From tallone.eric at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 13:29:52 2010
From: tallone.eric at gmail.com (eric eckstein)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:29:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <51b9f.5dd91e03.39521379@aol.com>
References: <51b9f.5dd91e03.39521379@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikNCtUrSqSguX6jYdxJHYkN4zhpeb1ft2WvCF1K@mail.gmail.com>

Really great story!

Eric Eckstein
2003 K1200GT
1995 K75

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:24 AM,  <Buzbiker1 at aol.com> wrote:
> Doug,
>
> HOW ABOUT THOSE KANSANS!!!!! ?You are one lucky S.O.B.!!! ? Awesome story
> and in a few years you should chronicle all your adventures ?in a book which
> would make for some great reading by all who love two ?wheels.
>
> Lucky, lucky and lucky!!!
>
> Buzz
>
> P.S. ?Time for a new bike????
>
> Buzz ?Davis
> 337 Beaumont Road
> Devon, PA. ?19333
> 610-574-0927
> buzbiker1 at aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 6/21/2010 11:17:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com writes:
>
> http://2zars.com/mp/2010/06/21/breakdown-on-the-pony-express-highway/
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From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 13:30:24 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:30:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiml2BsC6jfhi-t11I9wA0D5I-7BNWkiL2NwFGqv@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Doug Et Al:

The last time I broke down in Kansas it was at night... And it didn't
seem so bad. But then the banjos stopped about 2am, and  all you could
hear were the chainsaws starting up.



-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 13:39:40 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:39:40 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT?: Run a Red Light and help fund a tourist center....
Message-ID: <AANLkTikbx5nn0s8N1bRypF_8FxMJPA2AVYjRQcYYskif@mail.gmail.com>

at least in Florida.  Remember, that Red light running has to be
reduced for "safety".

That is why funds from fines are going to pay for a PRIVATE facilities
"tourist center" the "Frank Lloyd Wright Tourist and Education Center"

Yes, really, read it yourself....
http://www.theledger.com/article/20100621/NEWS/6215075/1410?Title=Lakeland-Dips-Into-Red-Light-Fines-for-Tourism-Center

I don't even think it is "for the children".

Another town in FL to be AVOIDED.  Let the people know what you think
of their policies.

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From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 14:21:55 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:21:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilHXhjAqmAlBQJ8Xvq8o6MAKRk6vPXbsIHbMrkS@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51b9f.5dd91e03.39521379@aol.com>
	<AANLkTilHXhjAqmAlBQJ8Xvq8o6MAKRk6vPXbsIHbMrkS@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinO1bAxqWNDx5h66ImrYlLbEWYlIhpBDoBdoEAK@mail.gmail.com>

My benefactor Dale Keesecker sent email saying I cleared out of Kansas
just in time that night.
The next day torrential rains drowned all his fields and shut down local roads.

One pic here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31374622 at N00/?saved=1

My luck is incredible. Of course I would like to say I carefully
checked weather forecasts before riding, but.....

Dale sent many pics of the flood, and many JPGs of articles about his
bikes, some of which were included in the links found by Erik Hoet.

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 14:29:17 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:29:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Timing is everything.
Message-ID: <AANLkTin4zGJzdF8gpn2DqB7c0LjqB6NqdS995HOcACCO@mail.gmail.com>

http://io9.com/5569200/a-space-shuttle-launch-as-seen-by-sky+divers
(WS)

Interesting shot.  Although it looks like the sky divers are AWFUL
high above the cloud deck.  Plus I would not think that the shuttle
would launch through that much of a cloud deck.

Maybe it is just that they are so far away that it looks like that.  I
suspect you cannot get too close to the shuttle launch airspace.

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From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 15:04:06 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:04:06 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT?: Run a Red Light and help fund a tourist
	center....
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikbx5nn0s8N1bRypF_8FxMJPA2AVYjRQcYYskif@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikbx5nn0s8N1bRypF_8FxMJPA2AVYjRQcYYskif@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikabwp4APx1ueBXXDyVodZCZZv6_luaJl3xALRm@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Mr. Curry Et Al:

This sort of shit has been going on for years, in various states
across the Union, and in the Federal government as well. In tiny urban
New Jersey, there has been a tax on firearms, firearm-related sales,
and other specialized sporting goods for the support of wildlife and
fish and game endeavors, which was not funded in any other way. Years
ago, a cash-strapped Garden State simply decided that this dough
should be dumped into the general state tax fund.

The Airline Trust fund was a joke for years. The fund is generated by
a tax on airline tickets. It was collected for over 15 years,
generating billions of dollars, and never spent on airport
infrastructure (like the air traffic control system) or anything else.
It was simply unspent, and used as budgetary ballast for the federal
governmement, to offset deficits.

In the early 1990's, it was agreed to spend the fund down if an
additional tax was passed (absolutely true) that would be called
"passenger facility charges." So now you have two taxes where there
used to be one, and the air traffic control system is basically the
same as it was in 1964. Some towers actually have computers running
tubes.

Yet it is inconceivable to me that public money can be presented to a
private charity. What is the process by which other "charities" can
apply for the dole? And shouldn't this have been the subject of a
vote? And if it had, I'm sure a convincing argument could have been
made that this same amount of cash could have gone to schools,
hospitals, the police department, or even a good whorehouse.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 15:05:37 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:05:37 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinO1bAxqWNDx5h66ImrYlLbEWYlIhpBDoBdoEAK@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51b9f.5dd91e03.39521379@aol.com>
	<AANLkTilHXhjAqmAlBQJ8Xvq8o6MAKRk6vPXbsIHbMrkS@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinO1bAxqWNDx5h66ImrYlLbEWYlIhpBDoBdoEAK@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikOiiOjukOMrknjrqSxGMcnj8OSdqEdmcg_uM-D@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Doug:

You should go out and buy lottery tickets today.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From bmwdick at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 02:12:43 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:12:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinhpCrFk_CcVnYoeI8JWtxTYUKjtZOT6r1h3839@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com>wrote:

> [DTR 6/20/2010]
>
> I had ridden out from Philadelphia to the Rocky Mountain National Park
> to enjoy a reunion with old friends.




> SNIP
>

Thanks for sharing your adventure.
I was waiting for the part where you give them tango lessons in exchange for
fixing the MC.
As I recall, they have some very large deer living in the Kansas corn
fields. Glad you avoided them.
-- 
BMW-Dick
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I?m not sure
about the universe.?    Albert Einstein.
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From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 15:24:12 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:24:12 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Suggested destination for Independence Day!
Message-ID: <AANLkTimek4fOABBvXPy6x5IBfKt8RIrDg7qjkTHrtnw_@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.ilbbqf.com/

From ephoet at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 19:08:51 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:08:51 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] De Vuvuzelator
Message-ID: <AANLkTilwZecUHoxU9nbiuT1A3B3Q-2d0WA3kDPgJ4g9O@mail.gmail.com>

If you watch football on your PC, you can remove the incessant noise...

http://www.gizmag.com/devuvuzelator-filters-vuvuzela-world-cup-broadcasts/15493/?

Sorry no good for your TV.....

Erik H
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

From ephoet at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 15:50:01 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:50:01 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Timing is everything.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin4zGJzdF8gpn2DqB7c0LjqB6NqdS995HOcACCO@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin4zGJzdF8gpn2DqB7c0LjqB6NqdS995HOcACCO@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil_DEkbR2RNLSHR95f3gEgWnCaSumzWKPbXRska@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://io9.com/5569200/a-space-shuttle-launch-as-seen-by-sky+divers
> (WS)
>
> Interesting shot. ?Although it looks like the sky divers are AWFUL
> high above the cloud deck. ?Plus I would not think that the shuttle
> would launch through that much of a cloud deck.
>
> Maybe it is just that they are so far away that it looks like that. ?I
> suspect you cannot get too close to the shuttle launch airspace.
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------

Would have been a real interesting photo if the camera angle had to be
down.......  but nevertheless a great shot!

Apparently the FAA sets the Temporary Flight Restriction (TFR) for 40
miles radius

https://www.faa.gov/pilots/safety/notams_tfr/media/tfrweb.pdf
http://www.ksc.nasa.gov/nasadirect/archives/KSCDirect/archives/launch/sts107/day1/sspqa.htm

EPH

From ladyvol at fastmail.fm  Tue Jun 22 19:27:43 2010
From: ladyvol at fastmail.fm (Jill McCarley)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:27:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1277234863.27783.1381388261@webmail.messagingengine.com>



On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:34 -0400, "Doug Raymond"
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> [DTR 6/20/2010]
> 
> I had ridden out from Philadelphia to the Rocky Mountain National Park
> to enjoy a reunion with old friends.  As I left Estes Park for the
> return ride I was looking on the map for some alternative to the
> mind-numbing Interstates, I-80 and I-70.  There, directly between them
> was US Route 36.  Though it looked like a secondary road, it made a
> straight line from Denver to Indianapolis, so I gave it a try.
> 
>
...big ol' SNIP

Doug,

Thanks once again for a superb riding report.  You have an amazing way
of being open to what good luck might want to come your direction.

be well,

Jill
---------------------------- 
'90 R100GS  
'06 K1200 R  "The Screaming Meanie"

Jill McCarley, MD
Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
Member, Ketchup Advisory Board
"Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness."


From mrmevans at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 19:14:20 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:14:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] De Vuvuzelator
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilwZecUHoxU9nbiuT1A3B3Q-2d0WA3kDPgJ4g9O@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilwZecUHoxU9nbiuT1A3B3Q-2d0WA3kDPgJ4g9O@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin2rLmq9yYRMSCPrOkzqz3DxszJO9KMSNV4YLQN@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Erik Hoet <ephoet at gmail.com> wrote:
> If you watch football on your PC, you can remove the incessant noise...
>
> http://www.gizmag.com/devuvuzelator-filters-vuvuzela-world-cup-broadcasts/15493/?
>
> Sorry no good for your TV.....
>

ESPN had already reported that during the first week of the World Cup
games their sound engineers had edited the audio feed from the games
to minimize the noise so what we are hearing on TV is nowhere near as
bad as the actual audio....I can't imagine how annoying it would be in
person...


-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 20:19:49 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:19:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <1277234863.27783.1381388261@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
	<1277234863.27783.1381388261@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiluNBp_4DvtI-HXzGrjt9pTdHHDbpYdKaKtuSWP@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Jill McCarley <ladyvol at fastmail.fm> wrote:
...snip..
> Thanks once again for a superb riding report. ?You have an amazing way
> of being open to what good luck might want to come your direction.

Thank you Jill and many others for kind comments.
I am just stubborn and very lucky, then the story writes itself.

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun 22 22:47:56 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:47:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiluNBp_4DvtI-HXzGrjt9pTdHHDbpYdKaKtuSWP@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com><1277234863.27783.1381388261@webmail.messagingengine.com>
	<AANLkTiluNBp_4DvtI-HXzGrjt9pTdHHDbpYdKaKtuSWP@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCE07417586570-2094-4E52@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>

Doug-

I think you discount the effect of all the good karma you spread when 
you do good for others. I firmly believe that people who selflessly do 
good things for others, have better "luck" than those who think only of 
themselves. It;s just my observation.

Awesome story, and you got to meet a legend in the motorcycle world.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Tue Jun 22 23:01:32 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 23:01:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Live Free Ride Alive
In-Reply-To: <303631671.9302701277247672928.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <474848992.9302891277247692020.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Not sure how many of you have seen this but it is a new website and information program from PA state. Pretty good, check it out. 

http://www.livefreeridealive.com 



John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From wateredg at interlog.com  Tue Jun 22 23:18:03 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:18:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
References: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com><1277234863.27783.1381388261@webmail.messagingengine.com><AANLkTiluNBp_4DvtI-HXzGrjt9pTdHHDbpYdKaKtuSWP@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCE07417586570-2094-4E52@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <C9976A30BAE844DABB5EB7688667F454@9200c>

Hello Tom et al,

From: "Tom Cutter" <tpcutter at aol.com>

> I think you discount the effect of all the good karma you spread when
> you do good for others. I firmly believe that people who selflessly do
> good things for others, have better "luck" than those who think only of
> themselves. It;s just my observation.
>
> Awesome story, and you got to meet a legend in the motorcycle world.

Just to add to Tom's remarks, my observation support this only in cases 
where the Good Deed Doer performs these actions because they genuinely 
*want* to, while expecting nothing in return. Those folks who adopt this 
behavior in order to enhance their Return On Investment, seem not to do as 
well.

And then there are guys like Bill Gates, whose primary driver was to win. He 
seems to have done pretty well for himself long before he started giving 
away bits of his billions.

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 23:38:08 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:38:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Fish rescued from BOP by ROV
Message-ID: <AANLkTikL7h8HTNCqBEER3gzRBwO_07jguT4No9DQEsvu@mail.gmail.com>

Rather amazing video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udDEM5GInzg
(WS)

In the comments, it is reported tobe a swordfish not a marlin.
PERSISTENT fish.  swims right back into and and has to be pulled away
a second time.

Also a fairly detailed shot of all the "stuff" that makes up the BOP.
They are not as clean as the Christmas trees that edde took shots of.

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From 321design at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 00:44:53 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:44:53 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Live Free Ride Alive
In-Reply-To: <474848992.9302891277247692020.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <303631671.9302701277247672928.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<474848992.9302891277247692020.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilzBmlsNZWy7oiANZaaQnHZ9EPp5LgJRfeyRp3c@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 7:01 PM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John
Clauss) <JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net> wrote:
> Not sure how many of you have seen this but it is a new website and information program from PA state. Pretty good, check it out.
>
> http://www.livefreeridealive.com
>

Good find.
 Check out Nosouljeff's video; hilarious.
http://www.livefreeridealive.com/#/documentary/rider_videos/videos/TgI9I6TO_lc



-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 00:45:04 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:45:04 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Fish rescued from BOP by ROV
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikL7h8HTNCqBEER3gzRBwO_07jguT4No9DQEsvu@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikL7h8HTNCqBEER3gzRBwO_07jguT4No9DQEsvu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil_I1GAWAQfee0PCuxMisM7IFUrEKXvfEATv_Cz@mail.gmail.com>

This is your marlin... This is your marlin on drugs.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From 321design at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 01:16:27 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:16:27 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: When you don't have energy,
	the most important 	thing is GETTING IT
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimiCqPzxCAzOrK4tzd83LnQpdlChEmoLcX8qR8X@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimiCqPzxCAzOrK4tzd83LnQpdlChEmoLcX8qR8X@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTintW8CoTRiBBC6OSoLLqHKw80tXxHAme9GO8nUz@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> When you have it, it is so sophisticated, to say "Oh we can do more with less."
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/18/business/global/18yuan.html
> (WS)
>
> China which IS the number 1 emitter of C02 is making sure their
> citizens have all the electric power they need from whatever source,
> coal or solar, but they WILL have it.

The first thing I notice when I returned Saturday from China (besides
the English language McDonald's signs), is the difference in air
quality. The air is always smoggy and dusty with hints of chemicals
and exhaust.

Motorcycles are scarce there being a ban on them in some locations
(Shenzhen). I believe displacement is limited where they are allowed
but in true Mac Pac fashion, a highlight was food.

Dinner in China photos here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/321design/100614China#


-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 23 01:29:28 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:29:28 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: When you don't have energy,
 the most important 	thing is GETTING IT
Message-ID: <27450596.1277256568454.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>Motorcycles are scarce there being a ban on them in some locations
>(Shenzhen). I believe displacement is limited where they are allowed
>but in true Mac Pac fashion, a highlight was food.
>
>Dinner in China photos here:
>http://picasaweb.google.com/321design/100614China#
>
>
>-- 
>Rob Haut
>West Chester PA

Oh you ate well... and often.. :->

I can still remember (faintly) the fragrances from the kitchens.. 

Well eaten in the Mac-Pac fashion

Jim (getting hungry in Claymont)


James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 01:51:06 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:51:06 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: When you don't have energy,
	the most important 	thing is GETTING IT
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTintW8CoTRiBBC6OSoLLqHKw80tXxHAme9GO8nUz@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimiCqPzxCAzOrK4tzd83LnQpdlChEmoLcX8qR8X@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTintW8CoTRiBBC6OSoLLqHKw80tXxHAme9GO8nUz@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikMFie-jV1y-FSpU36BRfEwtPeG4MbHWnKyX7EJ@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/22/10, Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > When you have it, it is so sophisticated, to say "Oh we can do more with less."
>  >
>  > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/18/business/global/18yuan.html
>  > (WS)

>  the English language McDonald's signs), is the difference in air
>  quality. The air is always smoggy and dusty with hints of chemicals
>  and exhaust.

I have noted that in pictures from China were the shots are outdoors.
The sky is always "grey" not blue, and there is a strange softness to
the veiws I am guessing due to all the stuff occluding the view.

>  but in true Mac Pac fashion, a highlight was food.
>
>  Dinner in China photos here:
>  http://picasaweb.google.com/321design/100614China#

Should have given a big notice.  I am salivating like crazy. :):)

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From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 01:53:21 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:53:21 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: When you don't have energy,
	the most important 	thing is GETTING IT
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTintW8CoTRiBBC6OSoLLqHKw80tXxHAme9GO8nUz@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimiCqPzxCAzOrK4tzd83LnQpdlChEmoLcX8qR8X@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTintW8CoTRiBBC6OSoLLqHKw80tXxHAme9GO8nUz@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinKTHBsrjtLjbcIauNQdhfwQ3NtvI-GGj4WZCdz@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> wrote:
....snip..
> The first thing I notice when I returned Saturday from China
....snip...
>
> Dinner in China photos here:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/321design/100614China#
>

So you went to Shanghai for dinner?  Would you care to elaborate?

Rob, thanks for superb food photos, I hope your hosts didn't find you
obsessive here.


-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From bergman at panix.com  Wed Jun 23 02:19:36 2010
From: bergman at panix.com (bergman at panix.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:19:36 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Manayunk art show this weekend
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim4zdO665IlelT0ss874T3jgvhcH1U1tB5vizG5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <30636.5165b99.39517675@aol.com>
	<AANLkTim4zdO665IlelT0ss874T3jgvhcH1U1tB5vizG5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100622221936.697339dd@papriti>

The annual Manayunk art show is this coming weekend. If anyone's coming
to the area, feel free to email/call (215 501 7952).

Meredith & I live
a few blocks up from Main St, just off Green Lane. We'll probably
be around for most of the weekend, and we're close enough to stroll down
to Main St. and meet people perusing the arts, or for folks to come up
for a cold drink.

Mark


-----
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'94 Yamaha GTS1000A^2
bergman at panix.com

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15+ So Far--Want to join? Check out: http://www.panix.com/~bergman 

From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun 23 02:34:52 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:34:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] When in doubt?
Message-ID: <8CCE093CB3A648F-2094-736A@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>

GAS IT!

Watch the rider's throttle hand in the slo-mo of this crash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlMbFlPzS24

I say it all the time, chop the throttle = you gonna crash.

When in doubt, GAS IT! It will either correct the trouble or end the 
suspense.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun 23 02:38:37 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:38:37 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Still in doubt?
Message-ID: <8CCE094517AA19B-2094-73F5@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>

Same idea, different rider:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLiovGtZapw&NR=1

Again, watch the throttle hand. When he gets scared and rolls off the 
throttle, the front end LOSES traction and he lowsides the bike.

When you reduce throttle, the weight transfers to the front wheel, 
which loads the contact patch more, and triggers the loss of traction.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 02:51:33 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:51:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Still in doubt?
In-Reply-To: <8CCE094517AA19B-2094-73F5@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCE094517AA19B-2094-73F5@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikXlSfNKZRNduFptFg00TWdIXj2DBeKkOd2saZ1@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/22/10, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:

>  When you reduce throttle, the weight transfers to the front wheel,
>  which loads the contact patch more, and triggers the loss of traction.

I'm lost.  Again.

I would think that increased weight on the front would give it more
resistance to sliding sideways.

Or is it that the increased weight is on the side of the tire not the center?

Or the weight transfer is to the center of the tire that is not really
in contact with anything and trying to push the outside the side which
is in contact with the ground?

I know I am missing something on where the weight transfer vectors are
going but doan know what it is.

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From wateredg at interlog.com  Wed Jun 23 02:57:17 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:57:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] When in doubt?
References: <8CCE093CB3A648F-2094-736A@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <E259A577C3CE4303ABB72CEF900D6FCF@9200c>

Hello All,

From: "Tom Cutter" <tpcutter at aol.com>

> GAS IT!
>
> Watch the rider's throttle hand in the slo-mo of this crash.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlMbFlPzS24
>
> I say it all the time, chop the throttle = you gonna crash.
>
> When in doubt, GAS IT! It will either correct the trouble or end the
> suspense.

The same page has lots of booms on Mulholland Drive in LA. The place is so 
popular for drops, that many of these videos were shot by positioned 
cameramen, just waiting for trouble to happen.

See this vide for a bike consumed by fire (no injuries), and how little of 
it is left at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1UYkrxFls4&feature=related

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada


From 321design at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 03:10:42 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 23:10:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: When you don't have energy,
	the most important 	thing is GETTING IT
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinKTHBsrjtLjbcIauNQdhfwQ3NtvI-GGj4WZCdz@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> wrote:
> ....snip..
>> The first thing I notice when I returned Saturday from China
> ....snip...
>>
>> Dinner in China photos here:
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/321design/100614China#
>>
>
> So you went to Shanghai for dinner? ?Would you care to elaborate?


Doug,

Actually the factory is located in  No. 1 Yin Hu Industrial Zone, Qing
Xi Town, Dongguan, Guangdong Province. I fly into Hong Kong and am
driven for about 2 hours to the factory. A trip lasts from a week to
10 days. most days are 12 - 14 hours dealing with my project depending
on the stage it is at; prototype through production. I stay at the
factory in apartments and eat in a small dinning room where other
engineers and staff some from Taiwan (home office) and some Chinese
live. The food there is conventional Chinese; breakfast is a buffet of
6 or so items such as stir fried vegetables with garlic, eggs
scrambled with corn, steamed buns, congee ( rice porridge) hot soy
milk. and fresh vegetable fruit juice. They will make western stuff if
you ask; waffles, toast. Lunch and dinner is similar only more meat
and fish. They really treat us well there. Here are some photos:
http://picasaweb.google.com/321design/FactoryFood#  Some interesting
stuf. Somewhere on my plate is cooked and kind of jellied duck blood;
rather bland. I really enjoy the food there.

We will go out to eat a few times. The restaurants in the earlier
pictures were both  Szechuan; very hot and spicy. I have a reputation
to eat anything and they were impressed that I ate the eye from the
fish. Many times we are seated in a private room away from the regular
restaurant. I think this is considered more special but I make it
clear that I prefer to be with everyone else in the restaurant because
it's much more interesting to look around. I think the locals find us
Westerners as interesting as well. The combination of wine and a clear
Chinese liquor called Baijiu, made for a great time. The memory of
those dinners make the trip home (30 hours door to door) bearable.


-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 03:24:35 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 23:24:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <8CCE07417586570-2094-4E52@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:
> Doug-
>
> I think you discount the effect of all the good karma you spread when you do
> good for others. I firmly believe that people who selflessly do good things
> for others, have better "luck" than those who think only of themselves. It;s
> just my observation.
>
> Awesome story, and you got to meet a legend in the motorcycle world.
>

Thanks Tom.
I sure did bump into a legend out there in Kansas.


-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun 23 03:41:54 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 23:41:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Still in doubt?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikXlSfNKZRNduFptFg00TWdIXj2DBeKkOd2saZ1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CCE094517AA19B-2094-73F5@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
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>  When you reduce throttle, the weight transfers to the front wheel,>  
which loads the contact patch more, and triggers the loss of 
traction.I'm lost.  Again.I would think that increased weight on the 
front would give it moreresistance to sliding sideways.Or is it that 
the increased weight is on the side of the tire not the center?Or the 
weight transfer is to the center of the tire that is not reallyin 
contact with anything and trying to push the outside the side whichis 
in contact with the ground?I know I am missing something on where the 
weight transfer vectors aregoing but doan know what it is.>>

There is a certain amount of traction available at the contact patch. 
When that is exceeded, you are sliding.

Bike is leaned. Thus, the vector is lateral to some degree. When that 
lateral load increases, the traction gets exceeded, Then you have 
sudden loss of traction, so the fork springs react, extending the fork, 
furthering the loss of traction. Getting on the gas lifts the fork, 
reducing the lateral force to below the traction threshold, and 
traction is regained.

Note in this photo the angle of the right wrist (sort of visible.) ON 
the throttle, leaned all the way over to the edge of the tire. 
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1163/4725931223_4105110ccc_b.jpg

These are things that are practice-able on a racetrack, but not so much 
on the street. They apply on the street, though.

When in doubt, gas it!

It works. It's the opposite of the instinctive "gotta get rid of speed" 
reaction, but it is learnable with practice. I find myself frequently 
saying a mantra inside my helmet "Stay on the gas, get off the front 
brake. Be smooth."

--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??


From crocov502 at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 23 04:13:42 2010
From: crocov502 at yahoo.com (Arla Hile)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:13:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Still in doubt?
In-Reply-To: <8CCE094517AA19B-2094-73F5@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCE094517AA19B-2094-73F5@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <63770.83508.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

From: Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com>

Same idea, different rider:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLiovGtZapw&NR=1

Again, watch the throttle hand. When he gets scared and rolls off the 
throttle, the front end LOSES traction and he lowsides the bike.

When you reduce throttle, the weight transfers to the front wheel, 
which loads the contact patch more, and triggers the loss of traction.


************************

This bears repeating. Best advice with video, evah!
Works in sand, too! :)

Arla
Starting to get fire-ey in fresno


      

From gary5410 at aol.com  Wed Jun 23 04:23:50 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 00:23:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Still in doubt?
In-Reply-To: <8CCE09D28985EE5-8F4-44A9@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CCE094517AA19B-2094-73F5@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com><AANLkTikXlSfNKZRNduFptFg00TWdIXj2DBeKkOd2saZ1@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCE09D28985EE5-8F4-44A9@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com>
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I'm no expert by any means, but........it is much easier to learn this 
in the dirt....and I did! I spent  2 days in the Pine Barrens riding in 
the sand. I just got my Adventure, put knobbies on it and headed for 
the XPLOR event.
1st day I kept getting crossed up in deep sand and would go down. We 
all got some instruction from Jimmy Lewis and the next day I didn't 
drop it once! When I thought I was going down (as instructed) I hit the 
gas and the bike straightened out...awesome feeling to save it. The 
lessons learned that day saved me from going down at 60+ mph on the 
Dalton Highway in AK and on the North Road in Quebec last fall.
I have read about others that let off the gas "in the marbles" on the 
Dalton and instantly went down.....
............"when in doubt gas it out" On the pavement??? haven't got 
that training yet! I hope to do a track day this year, but my calender 
is filling up!
Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com>
To: bmwbrian at gmail.com

>  When you reduce throttle, the weight transfers to the front wheel,>
which loads the contact patch more, and triggers the loss of
traction.

When in doubt, gas it!

It works. It's the opposite of the instinctive "gotta get rid of speed"
reaction, but it is learnable with practice. I find myself frequently
saying a mantra inside my helmet "Stay on the gas, get off the front
brake. Be smooth."

--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

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From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Wed Jun 23 10:44:46 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:44:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Still in doubt?
In-Reply-To: <8CCE09D28985EE5-8F4-44A9@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTikXlSfNKZRNduFptFg00TWdIXj2DBeKkOd2saZ1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C21AD5E.11012.35768E@localhost>



> 
> >  When you reduce throttle, the weight transfers to the front wheel,>
> >   
> which loads the contact patch more, and triggers the loss of 
> traction.I'm lost.  Again.I would think that increased weight on the
> front would give it moreresistance to sliding sideways.Or is it that
> the increased weight is on the side of the tire not the center?Or the
> weight transfer is to the center of the tire that is not reallyin
> contact with anything and trying to push the outside the side whichis
> in contact with the ground?I know I am missing something on where the
> weight transfer vectors aregoing but doan know what it is.>>
> 
> There is a certain amount of traction available at the contact patch.
> When that is exceeded, you are sliding.
> 

True dat.

Let's ignore vertical weight transfer for a moment.  These forces 
tend to self compensate as addition weight allows for additional 
lateral traction.  Instead look at forward momentum.  If the bike is 
turning and you hit the rear brake the bike would tend to straighten 
up.  Think of a string being pulled tight.  This straightening puts 
additional lateral force on the contact patch which would work to 
exceed the available traction.

> 
> When in doubt, gas it!
> 

I find this even works on a bicycle.  I find that if I am feeling 
unsteady in a corner, peddle harder.  It always steadys things up.

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From darkside at ix.netcom.com  Wed Jun 23 11:53:59 2010
From: darkside at ix.netcom.com (Darkside)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 07:53:59 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] When in doubt?
Message-ID: <19177646.1277294039161.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>





>From: Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com>
>Subject: [MAC-PAC] When in doubt?
>
>
>I say it all the time, chop the throttle = you gonna crash.
>
>When in doubt, GAS IT! It will either correct the trouble or end the 
>suspense.
>

i seem to recall that the above only applies it it is the front 
wheel that is loosing grip.  if the rear wheel is starting to 
slide, i was always told to roll off the throttle... nyet?

peace
eric

From piechota at argolis.org  Wed Jun 23 12:12:43 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 08:12:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] When in doubt?
In-Reply-To: <19177646.1277294039161.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <19177646.1277294039161.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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Darkside wrote:

> i seem to recall that the above only applies it it is the front 
> wheel that is loosing grip.  if the rear wheel is starting to 
> slide, i was always told to roll off the throttle... nyet?

In this case, that's pretty much what the guy did.  From what I'm 
seeing: the rear end started to slide out and at that point he chopped 
the throttle.  Suddenly the rear tire isn't spinning and sliding any 
more so it grabbed and flung the bike into a high-side.  In this case, 
the only thing he could have done was keep on the gas and try to ride 
the slide out, dirt-bike style.

Or, be in a better position to begin with; it looks like he's either 
straight up on the bike or maybe leaning out of the turn (body leaning a 
little to the right relative to the bike).  I have a habit of doing the 
same thing when I'm hanging off.  I'm working on it. :)

Or, don't get to the point of dragging pegs and losing traction on the 
street.  You know what really helps, too?  Doing a track day with Roger 
Lyle. :)  July 5th at Shenandoah (Summit Point complex), July 8th and 
21st at NJMP Thunderbolt!  (I'm probably not doing all of those, but one 
or two).
http://www.motorcyclexcitement.com/

From kgbruce1 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 00:28:26 2010
From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:28:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDERS' DINNER!!! this group is going to the dogs...
Message-ID: <AANLkTinZsHYF7fsURr_DIT1QVmjOgsItjYjCS8x7IZuH@mail.gmail.com>

Hear Ye!  Hear Ye!  The time is once again upon us to gather for the monthly
Riders' Dinner!  So, on Wednesday, June 30th (sliding right under the
proverbial wire) the Riders' Dinner will be held at the Four Dogs Tavern,
1300 Strasburg Road, West Chester, Pa 19382 (610) 692-4367.
http://www.thefourdogstavern.com/

The Four Dogs is well known for its beautiful location, extraordinary fare
and notable brew selection (FYWDB).
http://www.zagat.com/Verticals/Menu.aspx?VID=8&R=71848&HID=500004644

The area is surrounded by some excellent roads for pre or post dinner
riding.  The Four Dogs has been a beloved Chester County institution for a
long time and enjoys an outstanding reputation which, according to my lunch
there a week ago, is well deserved!  There was some question as to whether
or not they could accommodate our "separate checks" requirement so I
mentioned to the manager that I know Earle Bare, who lives close by.  The
mention of Earle's name removed all question as the manager said "Oh, well
in that case we DEFINITELY can't do separate checks!".  Deciding I should
try a different approach I said that I also know Charlene at which point the
manager said "Well in that case I guess we can try it."  Funny how that
worked...

The heat and humidity have been quite high lately so I reserved the air
conditioned loft which should fit our gathering nicely and prevent Rob Haut
from enduring another bad hair day. We'll gather at 6:30 p.m. but feel free
to arrive earlier and enjoy the surroundings.

You know the drill, if you can make it, please let me know and if you don't
know til the last minute just show up!  Its a great place and I lied about
us to get the reservation so if Riepe shows up, act like we just met him.

See you next Wednesday!

Ken Bruce
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From kgbruce1 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 13:30:43 2010
From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:30:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDERS' DINNER!!! this group is going to the dogs...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinZsHYF7fsURr_DIT1QVmjOgsItjYjCS8x7IZuH@mail.gmail.com>
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Hear Ye!  Hear Ye!  The time is once again upon us to gather for the monthly
Riders' Dinner!  So, on Wednesday, June 30th (sliding right under the
proverbial wire) the Riders' Dinner will be held at the Four Dogs Tavern,
1300 Strasburg Road, West Chester, Pa 19382 (610) 692-4367.
http://www.thefourdogstavern.com/

The Four Dogs is well known for its beautiful location, extraordinary fare
and notable brew selection (FYWDB).
http://www.zagat.com/Verticals/Menu.aspx?VID=8&R=71848&HID=500004644

The area is surrounded by some excellent roads for pre or post dinner
riding.  The Four Dogs has been a beloved Chester County institution for a
long time and enjoys an outstanding reputation which, according to my lunch
there a week ago, is well deserved!  There was some question as to whether
or not they could accommodate our "separate checks" requirement so I
mentioned to the manager that I know Earle Bare, who lives close by.  The
mention of Earle's name removed all question as the manager said "Oh, well
in that case we DEFINITELY can't do separate checks!".  Deciding I should
try a different approach I said that I also know Charlene at which point the
manager said "Well in that case I guess we can try it."  Funny how that
worked...

The heat and humidity have been quite high lately so I reserved the air
conditioned loft which should fit our gathering nicely and prevent Rob Haut
from enduring another bad hair day. We'll gather at 6:30 p.m. but feel free
to arrive earlier and enjoy the surroundings.

You know the drill, if you can make it, please let me know and if you don't
know til the last minute just show up!  Its a great place and I lied about
us to get the reservation so if Riepe shows up, act like we just met him.

See you next Wednesday!

Ken Bruce
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From 321design at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 14:14:53 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:14:53 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDERS' DINNER!!! this group is going to the dogs...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinZsHYF7fsURr_DIT1QVmjOgsItjYjCS8x7IZuH@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinZsHYF7fsURr_DIT1QVmjOgsItjYjCS8x7IZuH@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilzCEwlrTOViHwkLeteN_Dy4bgjVPbnrdP9L9WN@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Ken Bruce <kgbruce1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hear Ye! ?Hear Ye! ?The time is once again upon us to gather for the monthly
> Riders' Dinner! ?So, on Wednesday, June 30th (sliding right under the
> proverbial wire) the Riders' Dinner will be held at the Four Dogs Tavern,
> 1300 Strasburg Road, West Chester, Pa 19382 (610) 692-4367.
> http://www.thefourdogstavern.com/
>
> The Four Dogs is well known for its beautiful location, extraordinary fare
> and notable brew selection (FYWDB).
> http://www.zagat.com/Verticals/Menu.aspx?VID=8&R=71848&HID=500004644

> The heat and humidity have been quite high lately so I reserved the air
> conditioned loft which should fit our gathering nicely and prevent Rob Haut
> from enduring another bad hair day.

Thanks Ken for thinking about my hair. As you may have noticed in my
"dining in China" pictures , I've managed to grow some hair after
having a slender Asian woman apply ancient Chinese herbs to my head.
She started out at the back of my head working forward but
unfortunately she ran out (of the room) before  making it to the
front. I assume that was when she got a good look at my face.

I will see you there.

-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 14:18:25 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:18:25 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDERS' DINNER!!! this group is going to the dogs...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinZsHYF7fsURr_DIT1QVmjOgsItjYjCS8x7IZuH@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinZsHYF7fsURr_DIT1QVmjOgsItjYjCS8x7IZuH@mail.gmail.com>
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Dear Sir:

I am planning to attend, if you can keep the riff-raff out. Please
keep me posted with an attendee list so I can make a final
determination at the last minute. Has Sanda Bullock or Lady Gaga
responded yet?


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun 23 14:36:33 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:36:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] When in doubt?
In-Reply-To: <19177646.1277294039161.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <19177646.1277294039161.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8CCE0F89CC3932C-1078-B057@webmail-m088.sysops.aol.com>


<<i seem to recall that the above only applies it it is the front wheel 
that is loosing grip.  if the rear wheel is starting to slide, i was 
always told to roll off the throttle... nyet?>>

Very NYET! Throttle chop on rear slide=highside, very violent and 
usually injury-producing.

Steady on the throttle , apply pressure (weight)  to outside peg, 
traction will come back. Sometimes just staying steady on the throttle 
the grip will return by itself, and only a little course correction is 
needed. In no case is closing the throttle or appliyng brakes the 
correct response to a slide or skid.

Thia is assuming the body position is somewhere close to correct. Bikes 
with the touring regalia like bar-backs and tractor seats need not 
apply. That stuff totally prevents a good lock on the seat/tank with 
teh thighs and prevents good control.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun 23 15:29:15 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:29:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDERS' DINNER!!! this group is going to the dogs...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinULuoZA0auBLIFt88aUatZSLRtHa0FUJLP4b5l@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinZsHYF7fsURr_DIT1QVmjOgsItjYjCS8x7IZuH@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinULuoZA0auBLIFt88aUatZSLRtHa0FUJLP4b5l@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C22284B.4020500@ptd.net>

Jack Riepe wrote:
> Dear Sir:
>
> I am planning to attend, if you can keep the riff-raff out. Please
> keep me posted with an attendee list so I can make a final
> determination at the last minute. 

Fine, screw you...I'm not coming to dinner.  Besides, that West Chester 
stuff is too expensive for us cheapo riff people....why pay when its 
free.....we get free pulled pork sandwiches at Grumpy's Bar up here 
every Tuesday night.  You city folks have no idea how to eat at the 
right price.

Chris Jaccarino.

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 15:30:24 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:30:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] When in doubt?
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Dear Sir:

I applied my weight to the outside peg and it bent straight to the
pavement. Is there a "Plan B?"

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun 23 15:37:17 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:37:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] When in doubt?
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Jack Riepe wrote:
> Dear Sir:
>
> I applied my weight to the outside peg and it bent straight to the
> pavement. Is there a "Plan B?"
>
>   
LMAO...now that was funny.



From mrmevans at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 15:45:43 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:45:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDERS' DINNER!!! this group is going to the dogs...
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On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Chris <chrisjac at ptd.net> wrote:
>
> Fine, screw you...I'm not coming to dinner. ?Besides, that West Chester
> stuff is too expensive for us cheapo riff people....why pay when its
> free.....we get free pulled pork sandwiches at Grumpy's Bar up here
> every Tuesday night. ?You city folks have no idea how to eat at the
> right price.
>

And here I thought the riff-raff were the people who left notes and
dog crap on your bike seat.

Thanks for stepping up and showing us all that the 'riff-raff' glass
slipper actually fits you folks up North. ;^)

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From ephoet at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 15:48:50 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:48:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDERS' DINNER!!! this group is going to the dogs...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinZsHYF7fsURr_DIT1QVmjOgsItjYjCS8x7IZuH@mail.gmail.com>
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From:  Ken Bruce

	
Hear Ye!  Hear Ye!  The time is once again upon us to gather for the monthly
Riders' Dinner!  So, on Wednesday, June 30th (sliding right under the
proverbial wire) the Riders' Dinner will be held at the Four Dogs Tavern,
1300 Strasburg Road, West Chester, Pa 19382 (610) 692-4367.
http://www.thefourdogstavern.com/

 _______________________________________________


Just a road advisory for those planning to attend:

Rt 162 (Strasburg Rd) is closed about a mile E of the 4 Dogs Tavern.
(they're re-building the stone bridge over the E branch Brandywine
Creek)

Those coming from the east (via West Chester) would be advised to take
322W to the new traffic light at Sugars Bridge Rd (Make a left) .
Sugars Bridge takes you to Strasburg Rd, almost to the restaurant.
Make a quick R & L jog into the Four Dogs/Marshallton Inn Parking lot.
  Gravel parking in the rear, so plenty of space.

Erik H
West Chester

From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun 23 16:17:43 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:17:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] When in doubt?
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<<I applied my weight to the outside peg and it bent straight to 
thepavement. Is there a "Plan B?">>

A) You have to be moving.

B) You have to be leaning.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Wed Jun 23 16:32:15 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:32:15 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] When in doubt?
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> Jack Riepe wrote:
>> Dear Sir:
>>
>> I applied my weight to the outside peg and it bent straight to the
>> pavement. Is there a "Plan B?"
>>
>>
> LMAO...now that was funny.
>
>
I agree.  I was eating at the time.  Good thing I was not drinking...

Ride Safe,

Joe


From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 16:32:55 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:32:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] When in doubt?
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C) you have to be on your bike while A and B.

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:
>
> <<I applied my weight to the outside peg and it bent straight to
> thepavement. Is there a "Plan B?">>
>
> A) You have to be moving.
>
> B) You have to be leaning.
>
>
> --
> Tom Cutter
> Yardley, PA
> http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com
>
>
> It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
> ??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo?
> _______________________________________________
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From jhw4458 at verizon.net  Wed Jun 23 16:33:27 2010
From: jhw4458 at verizon.net (Clyde Jacobs)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:33:27 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT- PA Battle Lines
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The battle lines are being drawn, and the anti-gun candidates will again be attempting to deceive PA's gun owners.
 
Don't be fooled!  The 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting!  Anti-gun candidates cozy up to the gun owners by claiming to support hunters.  The founding fathers didn't ensure gun rights to manage the deer population!  Self defense is the first law of nature, and can not be taken away!
  
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20100619_Gun_issue_raised_in_Pennsylvania_governor_s_race.html
 
The assumption by Lentz is that people don't commit crimes without a valid concealed carry permit.  Lentz's bill was introduced for one purpose:  Campaign 2010.
 
 

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From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Wed Jun 23 16:57:23 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:57:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT- PA Battle Lines
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>The battle lines are being drawn, and the anti-gun candidates will again be attempting to deceive PA's gun >owners. 
> 
>Don't be fooled! The 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting! Anti-gun candidates cozy up to the gun owners by >claiming to support hunters. The founding fathers didn't ensure gun rights to manage the deer population! > Self defense is the first law of nature, and can not be taken away! 
> 
>http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20100619_Gun_issue_raised_in_Pennsylvania_governor_s_race.html 
> 
>The assumption by Lentz is that people don't commit crimes without a valid concealed carry permit. Lentz's >bill was introduced for one purpose: Campaign 2010. 


I find it a real stretch to call this an attack on legitimate carry permit holders. I am surprised that permits cross state lines, I know for instance that having a PA permit does not work in NY City. 

>From the article: 



"Joined at a City Hall news conference by District Attorney Seth Williams and State Rep. Bryan Lentz (D., Delaware), Onorato said people who might not qualify for a gun permit in Pennsylvania often can get one by applying online to Florida. 

As a result, he said, 3,100 Pennsylvanians hold Florida permits. The ease of getting a Florida permit, he said, often is promoted at gun shows. 

In Pennsylvania, county sheriffs decide who can get a permit. Besides criminal history and mental health, sheriffs may consider applicants' character and moral fitness. This gives sheriffs leeway to block an unfit applicant, Onorato said." 




I am of the feeling that if an applicant can not get a permit in PA, then they should not be able to get one from another State, maybe they um, shouldn't carry a gun. I am not against legit gun carriers I had my bacon saved by an off duty officer with a gun when I was confronted by two guys with a knife at an ATM. But if one is refused because of the legit reasons from the article, maybe just maybe they should not be able to get a permit from another state. 




John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 16:59:08 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:59:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDERS' DINNER!!! this group is going to the dogs...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinZsHYF7fsURr_DIT1QVmjOgsItjYjCS8x7IZuH@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Ken Bruce <kgbruce1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hear Ye! ?Hear Ye! ?The time is once again upon us to gather for the monthly
> Riders' Dinner! ?So, on Wednesday, June 30th (sliding right under the
> proverbial wire) the Riders' Dinner will be held at the Four Dogs Tavern,
> 1300 Strasburg Road, West Chester, Pa 19382 (610) 692-4367.
> http://www.thefourdogstavern.com/
...snip

I'll be there, thanks Ken.
-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 17:03:33 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:03:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT- PA Battle Lines
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On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:57 PM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John
Clauss) <JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net> wrote:
<SNIP>
>
> "Joined at a City Hall news conference by District Attorney Seth Williams and State Rep. Bryan Lentz (D., Delaware), Onorato said people who might not qualify for a gun permit in Pennsylvania often can get one by applying online to Florida.
>
> As a result, he said, 3,100 Pennsylvanians hold Florida permits. The ease of getting a Florida permit, he said, often is promoted at gun shows.
>
> In Pennsylvania, county sheriffs decide who can get a permit. Besides criminal history and mental health, sheriffs may consider applicants' character and moral fitness. This gives sheriffs leeway to block an unfit applicant, Onorato said."
>
>
>
>
> I am of the feeling that if an applicant can not get a permit in PA, then they should not be able to get one from another State, maybe they um, shouldn't carry a gun. I am not against legit gun carriers I had my bacon saved by an off duty officer with a gun when I was confronted by two guys with a knife at an ATM. But if one is refused because of the legit reasons from the article, maybe just maybe they should not be able to get a permit from another state.

If someone was denied a permit under PA rules, and gets one issued
under Florida's loophole to carry one in PA, isn't this a challenge to
PA's sovereignty?


-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 17:10:23 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:10:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT- PA Battle Lines
In-Reply-To: <1681755880.9612361277312243119.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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> I find it a real stretch to call this an attack on legitimate carry permit holders. I am surprised that permits cross state lines, I know for instance that having a PA permit does not work in NY City.
>
Having a NY permit does not work in NY City. You have to have special
permit issued by NYC judge to carry in NYC.

From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 17:17:31 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:17:31 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT- PA Battle Lines
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> Having a NY permit does not work in NY City. You have to have special
> permit issued by NYC judge to carry in NYC.
>
sorry...existing NYS permits have to be approved by the NYC Police Commissioner.

From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Wed Jun 23 17:17:45 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:17:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDERS' DINNER!!! this group is going to the dogs...
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>Fine, screw you...I'm not coming to dinner. Besides, that West Chester 
>stuff is too expensive for us cheapo riff people....why pay when its 
>free.....we get free pulled pork sandwiches at Grumpy's Bar up here 
>every Tuesday night. You city folks have no idea how to eat at the 
>right price. 

Chris, 

Do not short yourself, you are definitely raff, not riff. But it sounds like we should all be going to Grumpy's for free sandwiches! 

John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 17:21:02 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:21:02 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDERS' DINNER!!! this group is going to the dogs...
In-Reply-To: <4C22284B.4020500@ptd.net>
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On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Chris <chrisjac at ptd.net> wrote:
> Jack Riepe wrote:
>> Dear Sir:
>>
>> I am planning to attend, if you can keep the riff-raff out. Please
>> keep me posted with an attendee list so I can make a final
>> determination at the last minute.
>
> Fine, screw you...I'm not coming to dinner. ?Besides, that West Chester
> stuff is too expensive for us cheapo riff people....why pay when its
> free.....we get free pulled pork sandwiches at Grumpy's Bar up here
> every Tuesday night. ?You city folks have no idea how to eat at the
> right price.

Are you trying to form a splinter dinner group for Grumpy's?  Somehow
I think that would include mostly classic K riders;)

edde

-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From investorsc at aol.com  Wed Jun 23 17:15:42 2010
From: investorsc at aol.com (Bruce Smith)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:15:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT- PA Battle Lines
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil4jPYTY6MSPhVA3sMVW-leneYMgq7WST_Hshdw@mail.gmail.com>
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Wow..My first post..I get to chime in.

As an NRA instructor, national pistol competitor, and PA Concealed  
Carry permit holder, the numbers are being skewed.  I am also applying  
for my Florida permit which will allow me to carry in states that do  
NOT recognize the PA permit, but will honor the Florida permit.  This  
is more common than you would think.  PA has not been a good partner  
in reciprocating privileges with other states.  Most gun owners want  
to comply with each states rules as they travel across our great  
country.  The Florida permit requires an actual finger print card,  
along with a background check that is more restrictive than that of  
most PA sheriff offices, and a certification or verification of proper  
training or experience in the use of a handgun- NOT a requirement for  
a PA permit.

PA is pissed about losing revenue because you can have the Florida  
permit and it is valid in PA for the same carry rights, without paying  
your pound of flesh to the Commonwealth.
To better understand the carry rules and reciprocity, visit  
usacarry.com.

I do personally believe that you should be required to possess an in- 
state permit from your permanent address state before they should  
allow or honor out-of-state permits.  My 2 cents....

This is a political twisting that is so typical in an election year.


Bruce Smith

09 K1300S



On Jun 23, 2010, at 1:03 PM, edde m wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:57 PM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John
> Clauss) <JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net> wrote:
> <SNIP>
>>
>> "Joined at a City Hall news conference by District Attorney Seth  
>> Williams and State Rep. Bryan Lentz (D., Delaware), Onorato said  
>> people who might not qualify for a gun permit in Pennsylvania often  
>> can get one by applying online to Florida.
>>
>> As a result, he said, 3,100 Pennsylvanians hold Florida permits.  
>> The ease of getting a Florida permit, he said, often is promoted at  
>> gun shows.
>>
>> In Pennsylvania, county sheriffs decide who can get a permit.  
>> Besides criminal history and mental health, sheriffs may consider  
>> applicants' character and moral fitness. This gives sheriffs leeway  
>> to block an unfit applicant, Onorato said."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am of the feeling that if an applicant can not get a permit in  
>> PA, then they should not be able to get one from another State,  
>> maybe they um, shouldn't carry a gun. I am not against legit gun  
>> carriers I had my bacon saved by an off duty officer with a gun  
>> when I was confronted by two guys with a knife at an ATM. But if  
>> one is refused because of the legit reasons from the article, maybe  
>> just maybe they should not be able to get a permit from another  
>> state.
>
> If someone was denied a permit under PA rules, and gets one issued
> under Florida's loophole to carry one in PA, isn't this a challenge to
> PA's sovereignty?
>
>
> -- 
> edde m
> 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
> 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
> Philadelphia, US
> web: motoedde
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From chehl at comcast.net  Wed Jun 23 17:27:11 2010
From: chehl at comcast.net (chehl at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:27:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] (no subject)
Message-ID: <661652008.8867471277314031229.JavaMail.root@sz0062a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

http://cachondass.com/site.php

From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 17:28:49 2010
From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (hugh mccann)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:28:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
Message-ID: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GH8D2EqDZs

I feel like bringing up Moto topic.

What are your (pl.) thoughts. I personally am against it because it
flies in the face of the rules we are trying to get all drivers to
adhere.


With the 2-4-12, we want lane space respect, along with the distance to react.

Deep down, for me, i know that in an emergency, my 2-wheels can get me
to places my 4 wheels cannot, and when that time arises, I am
confident that the center lane, the shoulder, kids water park, will
serve as a wonderful egress to my final destination.


Other that that, it think being as visible and predictable to the
trucks and cagers creates the longer lifespan.

EXAMPLE: I was in a long line of traffic in Oaks, PA on Black Rock
Road where it crests down and to the right about 500ft from the 422
entrance. A slightly built rider on, what looked like, a Harley 883
came rolling up the side of the road on the shoulder.  The rider kept
moving forward on the right to a narrow gap -- an old stone fence juts
out at this point and a lot of tree branches overhanging -- honestly,
I felt the nerves even though I was in a car.

The rider nearly brushed against a Lexus SUV (that I am sure did not
expect, or see this Rider.)

It seems like tempting fate, like not Snipping, or challenging a grown
man with a giant spoon in his hand.

No, non-emergency vehicle, should get special dispensation when caught
in traffic. My car doesn't.


Hugh McCann
2007 f650GS "Thumper"
Collegeville, PA

From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 17:45:43 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:45:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Earthquake...
Message-ID: <AANLkTin0kn2Jb_6dI9WWdNglf1MIA4wE2oWLCNb7RT96@mail.gmail.com>

just had a pretty substantial earthquake here in the Adirondacks...

From wateredg at interlog.com  Wed Jun 23 17:47:46 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:47:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Earthquake...
References: <AANLkTin0kn2Jb_6dI9WWdNglf1MIA4wE2oWLCNb7RT96@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <83F4948DE872495BA5B32D9C574322B9@9200c>

Hello Michael,

From: "Michael Cantwell" <mjcantwe at gmail.com>

> just had a pretty substantial earthquake here in the Adirondacks...

I just felt a mild shaking here. Lasted for only about 10 seconds @ approx 
1:44 pm Eastern Time.  Thanks for the confirmation! :-)

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada


From bmwbrian at voicenet.com  Wed Jun 23 17:53:34 2010
From: bmwbrian at voicenet.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:53:34 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <661652008.8867471277314031229.JavaMail.root@sz0062a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <661652008.8867471277314031229.JavaMail.root@sz0062a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilhkEQnCC0w-kA6We9pCfQkqb0W6dm6-5bzX1Mg@mail.gmail.com>

This is SPAM.  Charley's comcast e-mail password was hacked.

I just called him.  He is likely changing it as I type this.

It is popular.  The hacking and then using the Web access to send mail.

This is the first from Comcast.  I would expect more. :(:(

On 6/23/10, chehl at comcast.net <chehl at comcast.net> wrote:
> http://cachondass.com/site.php
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From saylorspond at comcast.net  Wed Jun 23 17:54:29 2010
From: saylorspond at comcast.net (saylorspond at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:54:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1513600799.9340421277315669744.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

The same accident can/does happen when driving in a lane. The driver of the minivan illegally exited the carpool lane cutting off the bike. 

It would be interesting to see whether CA accident statistics document the percent of motorcycle accidents occurring during lane splitting. Has anyone seen such data? It is commonly done there and my impression is that it is relatively safe. Although I am glad to no longer be driving in LA, I personally would like to have the freedom to lane split in PA when necessary. 

Bicycles are also required to obey all traffic laws and are allowed to lane split, at least in CA. I rode a bicycle in CA for years and lane split stop-and-go traffic all the time without an accident. Of course, that was not on a freeway, just to be clear... 

Scott Miller 
Drexel Hill, PA 
1999 R1100RT-P 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "hugh mccann" <hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com> 
To: "MAC-PAC" <mac-pac-l at jtan.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:28:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GH8D2EqDZs 

I feel like bringing up Moto topic. 

What are your (pl.) thoughts. I personally am against it because it 
flies in the face of the rules we are trying to get all drivers to 
adhere. 


With the 2-4-12, we want lane space respect, along with the distance to react. 

Deep down, for me, i know that in an emergency, my 2-wheels can get me 
to places my 4 wheels cannot, and when that time arises, I am 
confident that the center lane, the shoulder, kids water park, will 
serve as a wonderful egress to my final destination. 


Other that that, it think being as visible and predictable to the 
trucks and cagers creates the longer lifespan. 

EXAMPLE: I was in a long line of traffic in Oaks, PA on Black Rock 
Road where it crests down and to the right about 500ft from the 422 
entrance. A slightly built rider on, what looked like, a Harley 883 
came rolling up the side of the road on the shoulder. The rider kept 
moving forward on the right to a narrow gap -- an old stone fence juts 
out at this point and a lot of tree branches overhanging -- honestly, 
I felt the nerves even though I was in a car. 

The rider nearly brushed against a Lexus SUV (that I am sure did not 
expect, or see this Rider.) 

It seems like tempting fate, like not Snipping, or challenging a grown 
man with a giant spoon in his hand. 

No, non-emergency vehicle, should get special dispensation when caught 
in traffic. My car doesn't. 


Hugh McCann 
2007 f650GS "Thumper" 
Collegeville, PA 
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From willweir at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 18:05:59 2010
From: willweir at gmail.com (Will Weir)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:05:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Earthquake...
In-Reply-To: <83F4948DE872495BA5B32D9C574322B9@9200c>
References: <AANLkTin0kn2Jb_6dI9WWdNglf1MIA4wE2oWLCNb7RT96@mail.gmail.com>
	<83F4948DE872495BA5B32D9C574322B9@9200c>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimmPa5v2h-RszwTnzKBSntr8MJcDvGbr5JeMKGm@mail.gmail.com>

My friend in Syracuse said they felt it there too.

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Steve Makohin <wateredg at interlog.com> wrote:
> Hello Michael,
>
> From: "Michael Cantwell" <mjcantwe at gmail.com>
>
>> just had a pretty substantial earthquake here in the Adirondacks...
>
> I just felt a mild shaking here. Lasted for only about 10 seconds @ approx
> 1:44 pm Eastern Time. ?Thanks for the confirmation! :-)
>
> -Steve Makohin
> ?'01 R1100S/ABS
> ?Oakville, Ontario, Canada
>
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From honeybrk at dejazzd.com  Wed Jun 23 18:25:11 2010
From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:25:11 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Directions Needed
Message-ID: <000d01cb1301$6ad04440$4101a8c0@FastHP>

I need directions for two destinations.  I will be riding to one and do not 
want to take the turnpike and all as the GPS directs me.  It is the MIXX in 
Villanova 789 E Lancaster Ave.

The destination is Springfield Country Club on Sproul Rd  These are 2 
different trips.

Marge 


From wateredg at interlog.com  Wed Jun 23 18:24:05 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:24:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] 5.5-magnitude earthquake confirmed
Message-ID: <0B1BC3F16000415B9BD6E909E70E9A9B@9200c>

Hello all,

A 5.5-magnitude earthquake that was felt in Toronto and as far away as New 
York has been confirmed by the U.S. Geological Survey. The earthquake was 
centered in Cumberland, Ontario, which is about 61 kilometres north of 
Ottawa. It was measured at about 19 kilometres deep.

You read it here, first, on Mac-Pac!

Mac-Pac Eating, Wrenching, and News Society ;-)

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada


From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 18:24:31 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:24:31 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil-w1YKZW5VpVv-A7RmD8uT9_WV2ej56b4ycft9@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:28 PM, hugh mccann <hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GH8D2EqDZs
>
> I feel like bringing up Moto topic.
>
> What are your (pl.) thoughts. I personally am against it because it
> flies in the face of the rules we are trying to get all drivers to
> adhere.
>
...snip...

Riding the breakdown lane:
I personally feel the urge to go for the breakdown lane sometimes,
such as when I'm in a 5-mile backup on the Interstate in 90-plus heat
and my temp gauge is going for the red.  I go respectfully slow,
sometimes with flashers, and maintain plenty of clearance from
vehicles.  Note that I don't do this casually (any more).  And
'justice' was done once in Ohio when I got ticketed for "improper
passing" while doing this and fined about $100.

However, truckers go ballistic and road-raged when they see me do it.
Twice they have tried to block or run me off the road. Near Denver
last week one whipped his huge rig over to the edge of the pavement
right in front of me, so I had to drop into the grass to get around
his front bumper.

My question, to Todd Trumbore, and other experienced rig drivers, is
"What is their problem?".  Are they using their trucks to enforce what
they think is the law?  What would their bosses have to say about
that?.  I suspect that they just HATE to see anyone get ahead of them
in a line, which sounds pretty mean-spirited to me. I am tempted to
stop the next time and attempt to discuss it with the driver, without
much hope of coming to a friendly resolution.

In all other ways I am as courteous to truckers as I can be, I don't
pass them on the right unless they make it clear they are staying
forever in the left, and I let them in front of me when they need to
pull out to pass.

I know that certain car drivers hate lane-splitters, and fantasize
that some OTHER driver will open a car door on them, Ha Ha.  This has
never happened in the history of the planet, I declare.

I only lane-split in California.  It's great fun, and only slightly
lowers life expectancy.

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From wayne at 2zars.com  Wed Jun 23 18:27:46 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:27:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] 5.5-magnitude earthquake confirmed
In-Reply-To: <0B1BC3F16000415B9BD6E909E70E9A9B@9200c>
References: <0B1BC3F16000415B9BD6E909E70E9A9B@9200c>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimR2crFMozhIKZ3og2-KEMnQVzYDU8IYbQ4KEXg@mail.gmail.com>

>
> A 5.5-magnitude earthquake that was felt in Toronto and as far away as New
> York has been confirmed by the U.S. Geological Survey. The earthquake was
> centered in Cumberland, Ontario, which is about 61 kilometres north of
> Ottawa. It was measured at about 19 kilometres deep.


This is an interesting site I found several months ago:

http://earthquakes.tafoni.net/


-- 
Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 18:29:11 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:29:11 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] 5.5-magnitude earthquake confirmed
In-Reply-To: <0B1BC3F16000415B9BD6E909E70E9A9B@9200c>
References: <0B1BC3F16000415B9BD6E909E70E9A9B@9200c>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil0yBB4zXGsioCVoPpkPfaKXX78mOAgKH0ucY0p@mail.gmail.com>

You would think we don't get a lot of excitement around here. Our LAN
is jammed up with people surfing about the earthquake...

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Steve Makohin <wateredg at interlog.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> A 5.5-magnitude earthquake that was felt in Toronto and as far away as New
> York has been confirmed by the U.S. Geological Survey. The earthquake was
> centered in Cumberland, Ontario, which is about 61 kilometres north of
> Ottawa. It was measured at about 19 kilometres deep.
>
> You read it here, first, on Mac-Pac!
>
> Mac-Pac Eating, Wrenching, and News Society ;-)
>
> -Steve Makohin
> ?'01 R1100S/ABS
> ?Oakville, Ontario, Canada
>
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From mrmevans at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 18:30:05 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:30:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil-w1YKZW5VpVv-A7RmD8uT9_WV2ej56b4ycft9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil-w1YKZW5VpVv-A7RmD8uT9_WV2ej56b4ycft9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilrsCMadrT3Oev3_5gd3XwyGLC92NZwB7eFFq0Y@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> Riding the breakdown lane:
> I personally feel the urge to go for the breakdown lane sometimes,

<snip>

Hey Doug,

The truckers must not realize that if you didn't lane split, the
wolves would catch you.

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 18:31:35 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:31:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil-w1YKZW5VpVv-A7RmD8uT9_WV2ej56b4ycft9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil-w1YKZW5VpVv-A7RmD8uT9_WV2ej56b4ycft9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikG-n9hHn-I6Y0-Nj9l6J4NFj3C2cW-PfMr7XRb@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:28 PM, hugh mccann <hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GH8D2EqDZs
>>
>> I feel like bringing up Moto topic.
>>
>> What are your (pl.) thoughts. I personally am against it because it
>> flies in the face of the rules we are trying to get all drivers to
>> adhere.
>>
> ...snip...
>
> Riding the breakdown lane:
> I personally feel the urge to go for the breakdown lane sometimes,

First off, congrats on your PC reunion out West and an amazing ride
back...gotta love a happy ending to little speed bump;)

I used to lane split here in PA, but I would never use the Emergency
lane.  If I'm going to squeeze in front of other drivers who are stuck
in traffic, I figure I should earn it by splitting lanes and not just
use the Emergency lane. I do so at a courteous speed and haven't had
issues. BUT I no longer do it...not worth the risk in PA to me...as PA
drivers just aren't aware of M/S.

In Cali though, I split ALL the time:)


-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 18:33:48 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:33:48 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] "US made" 650cc sport bike available
Message-ID: <AANLkTimZmZGCUdN0fi2jzke2bAG2wDMnFK8yfmTZcGsH@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/22/video-motorweek-talks-with-dan-fischer-american-sportbike-make/
(WS)

"
Television's Original Automotive Magazine, MotorWeek, recently took
some time out to sit down with Dan Fischer, former AMA motorcycle
racer and the man responsible for Fischer Motorcycles. In the
interview and corresponding video (see it after the break), Fischer
stakes a claim as the only affordable American sportbike manufacturer
in existence, now that Harley-Davidson sadly shut down its Buell
operations."

Has a video there too.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 18:42:47 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:42:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] 5.5-magnitude earthquake confirmed
In-Reply-To: <0B1BC3F16000415B9BD6E909E70E9A9B@9200c>
References: <0B1BC3F16000415B9BD6E909E70E9A9B@9200c>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil1FcCT2DMz1l5_GFMUU4jzERdP_m13SmVA1b0i@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/23/10, Steve Makohin <wateredg at interlog.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>  A 5.5-magnitude earthquake that was felt in Toronto and as far away as New
>  York has been confirmed by the U.S. Geological Survey. The earthquake was
>  centered in Cumberland, Ontario, which is about 61 kilometres north of
>  Ottawa. It was measured at about 19 kilometres deep.
>
>  You read it here, first, on Mac-Pac!

Yes, and hat sounds like it was REAL close to Dave Roos who is a
Mac-Pac'r too.  We will probably get a surf report from Arla when the
rest of California slides away and she is on beach front property in
Fresno...

>  Mac-Pac Eating, Wrenching, and News Society ;-)

Yes.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 18:50:07 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:50:07 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Directions Needed
In-Reply-To: <000d01cb1301$6ad04440$4101a8c0@FastHP>
References: <000d01cb1301$6ad04440$4101a8c0@FastHP>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikkpw-sJlj2-RzukZLjlCOOK3NSc02jNK7bSQ2M@mail.gmail.com>

The answer is Google Maps.

On 6/23/10, Marge Busch <honeybrk at dejazzd.com> wrote:
> I need directions for two destinations.  I will be riding to one and do not
>  want to take the turnpike and all as the GPS directs me.  It is the MIXX in
>  Villanova 789 E Lancaster Ave.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=555+Weaver+Rd+Morgantown+PA+19543&daddr=40.109588,-75.669708+to:789+East+Lancaster+Avenue,+Villanova,+PA&hl=en&geocode=FVJ9ZQIdv_x5-ylX4ydahGXGiTF9FaDdENmdYw%3B%3BFX7kYgIdZU6C-ymhOReDWZXGiTGm34MAcXc2xg&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=10&via=1&sll=40.12039,-75.61754&sspn=0.49147,0.828094&ie=UTF8&z=10

Putting in one forced location pulled it off the Turnpike.

>  The destination is Springfield Country Club on Sproul Rd  These are 2
>  different trips.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=555+Weaver+Rd+Morgantown+PA+19543&daddr=40.106437,-75.651855+to:Springfield+Country+Club,+Springfield,+PA&hl=en&geocode=FVJ9ZQIdv_x5-ylX4ydahGXGiTF9FaDdENmdYw%3B%3BFXc-YQId4D6C-yGLv2S9mYzclA&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=10&via=1&sll=40.066512,-75.613403&sspn=0.491857,0.828094&ie=UTF8&z=10

Single forced point did it again.  I would not go that way.  I would
be angling down 352 or something like that, but that is just some more
click on the route and pull it to the way you like.


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From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 18:55:53 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:55:53 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] 5.5-magnitude earthquake confirmed
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil1FcCT2DMz1l5_GFMUU4jzERdP_m13SmVA1b0i@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0B1BC3F16000415B9BD6E909E70E9A9B@9200c>
	<AANLkTil1FcCT2DMz1l5_GFMUU4jzERdP_m13SmVA1b0i@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinkJ3n0OMB3p6qFE_m_a546BjzJiVN127V0Cx6f@mail.gmail.com>

here's a link to the 'did you feel it' site at USGS ...

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/dyfi/events/us/2010xwa7/us/index.html

It's amazing how far away people felt this one...

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 18:59:38 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:59:38 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Recent up tick in SPAM due to hacked passwords and
	Webmail clients
Message-ID: <AANLkTim1PnfGPesQ0PD0NzQovewvCrwl8HPJsHqN8P6p@mail.gmail.com>

The SPAMMERs have a new trick, where they find an address (Why NOT to
just forward e-mails WITHOUT trimming all the other addresses that
were left there by STUPID people.), and then somehow crack the
password.  (Brian B could likely tell us more about that.)

With the cracked password they use the Webmail client of your e-mail
service and start sending out mail to ALL the addresses in it.  ALL of
them.

At one time the were putting in Subjects that looked dumb.  Now they
leave them blank and just put in a URL for a website they have
compromised where their wares are offered.

I have gotten enough that I recognize them real fast now.

Charley Hehl was just hacked at his Comcast account.  Breg Dickstein
had his netscape account just hacked.

If it happens to you change the password to something with numbers,
letters, capitalization and maybe add some additional special
characters.  If you can't think of anything else, think of an address
NOT where you live, that you remember from way back when and use it.
Numbers and capitals.  Or use on of the password safe's that offer
tough ones that have been suggested here.

HTH

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From wateredg at interlog.com  Wed Jun 23 19:01:09 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:01:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Quake downgraded to 5.0
Message-ID: <39C5AE9EF448497D9CFB76DE92906A58@9200c>

FYI...
The U.S. Geological Survey has downgraded the earthquake to 5.0. The quake 
was centered 61 kilometres north from Ottawa. No aftershocks are likely, 
according to a University of Toronto geology professor, Pierre Robin.

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 19:02:36 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:02:36 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] 5.5-magnitude earthquake confirmed
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinkJ3n0OMB3p6qFE_m_a546BjzJiVN127V0Cx6f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0B1BC3F16000415B9BD6E909E70E9A9B@9200c>
	<AANLkTil1FcCT2DMz1l5_GFMUU4jzERdP_m13SmVA1b0i@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinkJ3n0OMB3p6qFE_m_a546BjzJiVN127V0Cx6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimzJX51wM8jRIAg1WwEZBbFOukz26nr7kdMIHsP@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/23/10, Michael Cantwell <mjcantwe at gmail.com> wrote:
> here's a link to the 'did you feel it' site at USGS ...
>
>  http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/dyfi/events/us/2010xwa7/us/index.html
>
>  It's amazing how far away people felt this one...

No, it is normal.  It is an East Coast of the NA continent earthquake.
 Damn little damping.  It is in the bedrock.  They are felt forever.

The New Madrid quakes were felt in Washington DC, Philadelphia and
maybe Boston.  There were East COAST cities where bells pealed,
scaffolding collapsed, and windows broke.

Quakes are different on the EC versus the WC of NA.

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From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 19:06:52 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:06:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] 5.5-magnitude earthquake confirmed
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimzJX51wM8jRIAg1WwEZBbFOukz26nr7kdMIHsP@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0B1BC3F16000415B9BD6E909E70E9A9B@9200c>
	<AANLkTil1FcCT2DMz1l5_GFMUU4jzERdP_m13SmVA1b0i@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinkJ3n0OMB3p6qFE_m_a546BjzJiVN127V0Cx6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimzJX51wM8jRIAg1WwEZBbFOukz26nr7kdMIHsP@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTini4JV0POB0vXpKTp5EMCcncjQrw-vIWEqACmsn@mail.gmail.com>

Nonetheless, still amazing...
>
> Quakes are different on the EC versus the WC of NA.

From mrmevans at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 19:31:38 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:31:38 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] 5.5-magnitude earthquake confirmed
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTini4JV0POB0vXpKTp5EMCcncjQrw-vIWEqACmsn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0B1BC3F16000415B9BD6E909E70E9A9B@9200c>
	<AANLkTil1FcCT2DMz1l5_GFMUU4jzERdP_m13SmVA1b0i@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinkJ3n0OMB3p6qFE_m_a546BjzJiVN127V0Cx6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimzJX51wM8jRIAg1WwEZBbFOukz26nr7kdMIHsP@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTini4JV0POB0vXpKTp5EMCcncjQrw-vIWEqACmsn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimvdzHjjzHuqNC2pmAytDPtXvw1yI1zlCcrDHAr@mail.gmail.com>

Meanwhile, I am just biting my toungue on making a connection between
this thread and the "When in Doubt" one....

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Wed Jun 23 19:34:12 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:34:12 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Earthquake...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimmPa5v2h-RszwTnzKBSntr8MJcDvGbr5JeMKGm@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin0kn2Jb_6dI9WWdNglf1MIA4wE2oWLCNb7RT96@mail.gmail.com>
	<83F4948DE872495BA5B32D9C574322B9@9200c>
	<AANLkTimmPa5v2h-RszwTnzKBSntr8MJcDvGbr5JeMKGm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47020.12.181.211.35.1277321652.squirrel@12.181.211.35>

> My friend in Syracuse said they felt it there too.
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Steve Makohin <wateredg at interlog.com>
> wrote:
>> Hello Michael,
>>
>> From: "Michael Cantwell" <mjcantwe at gmail.com>
>>
>>> just had a pretty substantial earthquake here in the Adirondacks...
>>
>> I just felt a mild shaking here. Lasted for only about 10 seconds @
>> approx
>> 1:44 pm Eastern Time. ?Thanks for the confirmation! :-)
>>

Sounds like it was centered in Canada.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/vermont/articles/2010/06/23/earthquake_in_canada_rattles_upstate_ny_vt/

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/06/23/world/AP-CN-Canada-Earthquake.html?_r=1

Ride Safe,

Joe


From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 19:43:59 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:43:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] [OT] 5.5-magnitude earthquake confirmed
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimvdzHjjzHuqNC2pmAytDPtXvw1yI1zlCcrDHAr@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0B1BC3F16000415B9BD6E909E70E9A9B@9200c>
	<AANLkTil1FcCT2DMz1l5_GFMUU4jzERdP_m13SmVA1b0i@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinkJ3n0OMB3p6qFE_m_a546BjzJiVN127V0Cx6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimzJX51wM8jRIAg1WwEZBbFOukz26nr7kdMIHsP@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTini4JV0POB0vXpKTp5EMCcncjQrw-vIWEqACmsn@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimvdzHjjzHuqNC2pmAytDPtXvw1yI1zlCcrDHAr@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil29BLHF-u8I5kafX5MUfQTCIDuFfaGPFACcjBE@mail.gmail.com>

I'm sure Jack will be mentioned at some point. Maybe he's been
practicing his dismount!

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Michael Evans <mrmevans at gmail.com> wrote:
> Meanwhile, I am just biting my toungue on making a connection between
> this thread and the "When in Doubt" one....
>
> --
> Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA
>

From jweiss11 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 23 20:34:25 2010
From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:34:25 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Directions Needed
In-Reply-To: <000d01cb1301$6ad04440$4101a8c0@FastHP>
References: <000d01cb1301$6ad04440$4101a8c0@FastHP>
Message-ID: <5CC3F0466CFB4981BF872499196D55F3@jackde48df08c6>


I need directions for two destinations.  I will be riding to one and do not 
want to take the turnpike and all as the GPS directs me.  It is the MIXX in 
Villanova 789 E Lancaster Ave.

The destination is Springfield Country Club on Sproul Rd  These are 2 
different trips.

Marge 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Marge, 

In my Garmin I can set avoidances like Highways, toll roads, etc. 

I go to Tools > Settings > Navigation > Avoidances and just tell the bugger
what I don't want to ride on. It works most of the time, but don't turn the
brain off. 

Enjoy, Jack 


From mrmevans at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 20:45:38 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:45:38 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] GPS Features [was  Directions Needed]
Message-ID: <AANLkTikMj9HsrfJSq3_YYgKf9VJhXl-lswku4fLvqAdt@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Jack Weiss <jweiss11 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Marge,
>
> In my Garmin I can set avoidances like Highways, toll roads, etc.
>
> I go to Tools > Settings > Navigation > Avoidances and just tell the bugger
> what I don't want to ride on. It works most of the time, but don't turn the
> brain off.
>
My one older Garmin unit, a Street Pilot, had choices in the settings
for the mode by which you were travelling and selected roads based
upon that setting.

For example, if the mode was changed to "Travel by Bicycle" the unit
then calculated a path which avoided all roads that were tagged as
major/busy/etc. in the routing. That mode made for some fun
motorcycling most times, but occasionally had me cutting through some
residential neighborhoods with 15-25 mph speed limits.

I have a newer (and less expensive) Garmin Nuvi that works great for
basic travel but does not have this feature, nor many of the others
from my old Street Pilot.

Another mode, "Travel by Boulder" is often also called "As The Dick
Flies". On the advice of Dick Bregstein I have never used that mode.


-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From ephoet at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 20:46:40 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:46:40 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] PA's Loneliest Road
Message-ID: <AANLkTikLTOb9auqaVOAKF6VLNDG-a_zvxWYrJ2Cz3i26@mail.gmail.com>

Pennsylvania's loneliest road is little Beaver Dam Rd, in Chadds Ford
Twp next to Delaware.(by
Right along the circle defined by famous surveyors Mason & Dixon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-Mile_Circle

So called (by me, anyway) not by neglect of busy traffic, but rather
neglect of its owner, PA, and Chadds Ford township.
Who simply refused to maintain the road, choosing rather to play a
child's game for 20 years claiming "its not my road, its your road"...

Its not a long road, like the famous Rt 50 in Nevada.
http://www.byways.org/explore/byways/2033/

Perhaps a mile in total length.  Starts in Delaware, ends in Delaware.
But there is a short piece about 1400 ft long that just crosses over
that great M&D circle into PA.
Whose condition had deteriorated into a state of abysmal dysfunction,
not unlike our overpaid and under working PA legislators.

Where is this lonely road, you ask?
You can see it here on BingMaps, just E of the SmithBridge Road
Covered Bridge over the Brandywine:

http://tinyurl.com/2ah23c6
http://www.woodlawntrustees.com/Trail_Map.pdf
http://www.thebrandywine.com/photoop/smithbridge.html

Well, thankfully the state of Delaware has not forgotten this lonely,
forgotten bit of a gravel strewn, rutted, potholed excuse for a
country road.

It closed Monday for 2 weeks, for a much needed and well deserved make
over.  Should be open again July 6, according to the signs.

http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20106210324
http://delcotimes.com/articles/2010/06/17/news/doc4c1a465e7fb2a318216814.txt
http://www.senatorkatz.com/
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/Legis/PN/Public/btCheck.cfm?txtType=PDF&sessYr=2009&sessInd=0&billBody=H&billTyp=B&billNbr=0585&pn=0642

PennDOT will pay for the makeover, about $200K.  Del DOT will agree to
maintain it.  Woodlawn Trustees agree to hand over "ownership" to PA.

I love the spin in the article, declaring this a shining example of
interstate cooperation.
That would have been true had it not taken 20+ years to
orchestrate...............

Nonetheless, I'm glad they located their missing round TUIT's.
And rescued Beaver Dam Rd from its agonizing loneliness

Erik with a "k"
West Chester

From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun 23 20:54:08 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:54:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT- PA Battle Lines
In-Reply-To: <6C3FAC34-7620-4A35-9524-6138C80184E8@verizon.net>
References: <AANLkTikDqP40ky4DzU-ajAjhSGO1z5-qJdjGV_unC0em@mail.gmail.com>
	<6C3FAC34-7620-4A35-9524-6138C80184E8@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <8CCE12D5BF5B1B3-1E98-EE0@webmail-m032.sysops.aol.com>


<<The battle lines are being drawn, and the anti-gun candidates will 
again be attempting to deceive PA's gun owners. Don't be fooled!  The 
2nd Amendment isn't about hunting!  Anti-gun candidates cozy up to the 
gun owners by claiming to support hunters.  The founding fathers didn't 
ensure gun rights to manage the deer population!  Self defense is the 
first law of nature, and can not be taken away!  
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20100619_Gun_issue_raised_in_Pennsylvania_governor_s_race.html 
The assumption by Lentz is that people don't commit crimes without a 
valid concealed carry permit.  Lentz's bill was introduced for one 
purpose:  Campaign 2010.>>

So Onorato alienated another subgroup of potential supporters by being 
a dipstick. For a guy who showed up on he political scene a few short 
months ago, he certainly has made a lot of enemies.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??


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From: Clyde Jacobs <jhw4458 at verizon.net>
To: mac-pac-l at jtan.com
Sent: Wed, Jun 23, 2010 12:33 pm
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT- PA Battle Lines


The battle lines are being drawn, and the anti-gun candidates will 
again be attempting to deceive PA's gun owners. Don't be fooled!  The 
2nd Amendment isn't about hunting!  Anti-gun candidates cozy up to the 
gun owners by claiming to support hunters.  The founding fathers didn't 
ensure gun rights to manage the deer population!  Self defense is the 
first law of nature, and can not be taken away!  
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20100619_Gun_issue_raised_in_Pennsylvania_governor_s_race.html 
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From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun 23 21:01:03 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:01:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT- PA Battle Lines
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik7w748PYoOPDFIFwEpE_HQJ6cTeXDhJB0enXPz@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6C3FAC34-7620-4A35-9524-6138C80184E8@verizon.net><1681755880.9612361277312243119.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <8CCE12E533DCB15-1E98-1057@webmail-m032.sysops.aol.com>


<<Having a NY permit does not work in NY City. You have to have 
specialpermit issued by NYC judge to carry in NYC.>>

Or just be a criminal. Since they seldom actually prosecute criminals 
for just having the gun, it makes criminality a de facto carry permit. 
Just do a bigger crime and the carry violation goes away.

Am I the only one who has noticed that the localities with the most 
draconian gun laws still have the worst gun crime rate? Am I the only 
one who could conclude that gun laws as currently written and enforced 
don't work, so that would mean that any politician who proposes a new 
gun law is automatically a fool and a charlatan? I bet not.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 21:06:18 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:06:18 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT- PA Battle Lines
In-Reply-To: <8CCE12E533DCB15-1E98-1057@webmail-m032.sysops.aol.com>
References: <6C3FAC34-7620-4A35-9524-6138C80184E8@verizon.net>
	<1681755880.9612361277312243119.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTilHK62WgeeiQCzibf7J66na9mWaDK-sFE5tfJWZ@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/23/10, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:

>  don't work, so that would mean that any politician who proposes a new
>  gun law is automatically a fool and a charlatan? I bet not.

How do you find a politician that is not a fool and charlatan or tell
the difference between them?  I think they are kinda like hen's teeth.

Posturing, Pandering and Politician.  All begin with P, and they are
SO together...

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From mrmevans at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 21:06:49 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:06:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT- PA Battle Lines
In-Reply-To: <8CCE12E533DCB15-1E98-1057@webmail-m032.sysops.aol.com>
References: <6C3FAC34-7620-4A35-9524-6138C80184E8@verizon.net>
	<1681755880.9612361277312243119.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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	<8CCE12E533DCB15-1E98-1057@webmail-m032.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiknq1qQP0IxjktM1JBQYfk0H8iF8U1ZcdTAruq0@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Am I the only one who has noticed that the localities with the most
> draconian gun laws still have the worst gun crime rate? Am I the only
> one who could conclude that gun laws as currently written and enforced
> don't work, so that would mean that any politician who proposes a new
> gun law is automatically a fool and a charlatan? I bet not.
>

I suppose that depends upon your view of a fool.

If a politician's aim is re-election and he/she proposes a new gun law
that alienates a small % of voters while persuading a larger % to
support him/her, then the goal is achieved. The label of fool is only
a judgement from the non-supportive % which might better be applied,
in some cases, to the supporting %.


-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From tpcutter at aol.com  Wed Jun 23 21:13:58 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:13:58 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil-w1YKZW5VpVv-A7RmD8uT9_WV2ej56b4ycft9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil-w1YKZW5VpVv-A7RmD8uT9_WV2ej56b4ycft9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCE130217C46D0-1E98-12DF@webmail-m032.sysops.aol.com>


<<However, truckers go ballistic and road-raged when they see me do 
it.Twice they have tried to block or run me off the road. Near 
Denverlast week one whipped his huge rig over to the edge of the 
pavementright in front of me, so I had to drop into the grass to get 
aroundhis front bumper.My question, to Todd Trumbore, and other 
experienced rig drivers, is"What is their problem?".  Are they using 
their trucks to enforce whatthey think is the law?  What would their 
bosses have to say aboutthat?.  I suspect that they just HATE to see 
anyone get ahead of themin a line, which sounds pretty mean-spirited to 
me. I am tempted tostop the next time and attempt to discuss it with 
the driver, withoutmuch hope of coming to a friendly resolution.>>

That is assault. You should get their rig data (plate, company, etc.) 
and report it to the police and to their company. That trucker will be 
a pedestrian if you do that. Word gets around.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 21:34:39 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:34:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilUSyDxOSCIT52ITPo0R77Dhdc6y6MpCIOczzoT@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Hugh Et Al:

I do not believe in lane-splitting. While it may save somebody 10
minutes, is isn't worth the risk of a crash, in my humble opinion.
That said, I am not surprised that vehicle that dumped this guy was
minivan. I swear that these vehicles are all owned by assholes and
dopes. I do not wholey blame the dipshit who clocked the biker in this
video. But dimes to donuts I bet she does not have fish-eye mirrors on
her stock side-mirrors, and was just determined to inch into the next
lane of traffic, and fuck everybody. This was a case of mutual
stupidity in my book. It may have been legal for the rider to
lane-split, but the chances of finding the asshole in the hay stack
increase dramatically when they are gathered together in long lines
(miles) of stalled traffic. (I can't see it in the video, but she was
probably on the fucking phone too.)

I apologize to anyone on this list who got caight up in my rash
generalization. But if you are driving a minivan, then maybe you
should be tested. (I said it and I'm glad.) I went out for a ride in
the Suburban last night, and three assholes pulled out in front of me
in a 10-mile stetch. One was a stupid, shit-for-brains high school
kid, on a bike, with no lights, who zipped out of a driveway, on his
way to score some weed. The other two were driving minivans. If that
kid lives long enough, he will probably drive a minivan too.

Have a nice day.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 21:40:26 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:40:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT- PA Battle Lines
In-Reply-To: <1681755880.9612361277312243119.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <6C3FAC34-7620-4A35-9524-6138C80184E8@verizon.net>
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Dear John:

You could haved saved the cop the trouble if you had your own gun. If
that had happened to me, I'd have bought a bazooka within 24 hours.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From rsorens at comcast.net  Wed Jun 23 21:59:45 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:59:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT- PA Battle Lines
In-Reply-To: <1681755880.9612361277312243119.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3356B7A71D7342C5A237DD532270757C@Tekki>

>...I find it a real stretch to call this an attack on legitimate carry
permit holders. I am surprised that permits cross state lines,,,,

Not sure how this is a 'stretch', John. He clearly says he wants to end the
reciprocity between PA and FLA.

Why surprised? I am surprised that PA doesn't have agreements with MORE
states.
Take a look at this site for more details on reciprocity:
http://handgunlaw.us/
Pick YOUR state and see where you're legal. Just because there is not a
reciprocal agreement does not mean you cannot transport your handgun thru a
state; that right is actually covered by federal statue; it's referred to as
'peaceable journey'

Or the official PA State AG's site:
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/crime.aspx?id=184



Rick


From gary5410 at aol.com  Wed Jun 23 22:01:43 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:01:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilUSyDxOSCIT52ITPo0R77Dhdc6y6MpCIOczzoT@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <8CCE136CD1A63B9-10D8-2348@webmail-m025.sysops.aol.com>

In defense of the driver of the van.......the moto was moving at a good 
clip compared to the cars, the van may have looked and saw 
nothing.......very dangerous!
Lane splitting....... not easy to do on these wide load bikes. That's 
why my NYC friends don't use side cases.
Gary Christman


-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com>



Dear Hugh Et Al:
 I do not wholey blame the dipshit who clocked the biker in this
video. But dimes to donuts I bet she does not have fish-eye mirrors on
her stock side-mirrors, and was just determined to inch into the next
lane of traffic, and fuck everybody. This was a case of mutual
stupidity in my book. It may have been legal for the rider to
lane-split, but the chances of finding the asshole in the hay stack
increase dramatically when they are gathered together in long lines
(miles) of stalled traffic. (I can't see it in the video, but she was
probably on the fucking phone too.)

Have a nice day.


--
Fondest regards,
Jack

From gary5410 at aol.com  Wed Jun 23 23:13:35 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:13:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] PA's Loneliest Road
In-Reply-To: <8CCE140BE598BBB-10D8-2D6A@webmail-m025.sysops.aol.com>
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Message-ID: <8CCE140D755A4DA-10D8-2D7E@webmail-m025.sysops.aol.com>




I think I may have to go ride this one in Nevada!
Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure


-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Hoet <ephoet at gmail.com>

.................. like the famous Rt 50 in Nevada.
http://www.byways.org/explore/byways/2033/


  

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun 23 23:31:11 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:31:11 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDERS' DINNER!!! this group is going to the dogs...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin4I0IsiG9V0S02sQEdZYlrFgzvIT8ZAXH5xzUD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinZsHYF7fsURr_DIT1QVmjOgsItjYjCS8x7IZuH@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTinULuoZA0auBLIFt88aUatZSLRtHa0FUJLP4b5l@mail.gmail.com>	<4C22284B.4020500@ptd.net>
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edde m wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Chris <chrisjac at ptd.net> wrote:
>   
>> Jack Riepe wrote:
>>     
>>> Dear Sir:
>>>
>>> I am planning to attend, if you can keep the riff-raff out. Please
>>> keep me posted with an attendee list so I can make a final
>>> determination at the last minute.
>>>       
>> Fine, screw you...I'm not coming to dinner.  Besides, that West Chester
>> stuff is too expensive for us cheapo riff people....why pay when its
>> free.....we get free pulled pork sandwiches at Grumpy's Bar up here
>> every Tuesday night.  You city folks have no idea how to eat at the
>> right price.
>>     
>
> Are you trying to form a splinter dinner group for Grumpy's?  Somehow
> I think that would include mostly classic K riders;)
>
> edde
>
>   

Nah, no splinter group.  Just sayin' so.

Chris Jaccarino

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun 23 23:35:10 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:35:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Earthquake...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin0kn2Jb_6dI9WWdNglf1MIA4wE2oWLCNb7RT96@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin0kn2Jb_6dI9WWdNglf1MIA4wE2oWLCNb7RT96@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C229A2E.4040409@ptd.net>

Michael Cantwell wrote:
> just had a pretty substantial earthquake here in the Adirondacks...
>   

oh, no the big one approaches. 

Really though, quakes on the east coast can be felt for much greater 
distances, given the same magnitude quake, as compared to the west 
cost.  Enjoy.

Chris Jaccarino

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 23:37:42 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:37:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] PA's Loneliest Road
In-Reply-To: <8CCE140D755A4DA-10D8-2D7E@webmail-m025.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTikLTOb9auqaVOAKF6VLNDG-a_zvxWYrJ2Cz3i26@mail.gmail.com>
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On 6/23/10, Gary Christman <gary5410 at aol.com> wrote:

>  I think I may have to go ride this one in Nevada!

>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Erik Hoet <ephoet at gmail.com>
>
>  .................. like the famous Rt 50 in Nevada.
>  http://www.byways.org/explore/byways/2033/

Be sure to take NV 772 just West of Austin which is old US-50, is
TRULY the loneliest Hwy in NV and is darn pretty too.  Watch out for
the cattle on the WRONG side of the fence.  Seeing one steer "bounce"
of another I was GLAD it ws NOT bouncing off of me!

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=austin,+nv&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=32.610437,52.998047&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Austin,+Lander,+Nevada&ll=39.393755,-117.518005&spn=0.49668,0.828094&z=10

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From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Wed Jun 23 23:38:59 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:38:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Summer Job
Message-ID: <4C2262D3.31170.2FA477D@localhost>

Joey is heading off to College in late August.  He could use a job so 
he has some pocket money.  Joey is smart and has done a bunch of 
tutoring and volunteer work but not much in the way of real jobs.  He 
is willing to do any kind of grunt work.  He has worked at the snack 
bar at the race track and can work a cash register.  If anyone around 
the Telford PA area needs some short term help this summer help 
please let me know.  

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From reopropf at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 23:59:53 2010
From: reopropf at gmail.com (Peter Frechie)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:59:53 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] PA's Loneliest Road
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikLTOb9auqaVOAKF6VLNDG-a_zvxWYrJ2Cz3i26@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTinMlkMvAjQPHAm6w3_dM9CaGgswB6Bp61UmJc4s@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds like a destination ride with food attached.
Would some local lead a ride in those parts one day?

Peter

On Wednesday, June 23, 2010, Erik Hoet <ephoet at gmail.com> wrote:
> Pennsylvania's loneliest road is little Beaver Dam Rd, in Chadds Ford
> Twp next to Delaware.(by
> Right along the circle defined by famous surveyors Mason & Dixon
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-Mile_Circle
>
> So called (by me, anyway) not by neglect of busy traffic, but rather
> neglect of its owner, PA, and Chadds Ford township.
> Who simply refused to maintain the road, choosing rather to play a
> child's game for 20 years claiming "its not my road, its your road"...
>
> Its not a long road, like the famous Rt 50 in Nevada.
> http://www.byways.org/explore/byways/2033/
>
> Perhaps a mile in total length. ?Starts in Delaware, ends in Delaware.
> But there is a short piece about 1400 ft long that just crosses over
> that great M&D circle into PA.
> Whose condition had deteriorated into a state of abysmal dysfunction,
> not unlike our overpaid and under working PA legislators.
>
> Where is this lonely road, you ask?
> You can see it here on BingMaps, just E of the SmithBridge Road
> Covered Bridge over the Brandywine:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2ah23c6
> http://www.woodlawntrustees.com/Trail_Map.pdf
> http://www.thebrandywine.com/photoop/smithbridge.html
>
> Well, thankfully the state of Delaware has not forgotten this lonely,
> forgotten bit of a gravel strewn, rutted, potholed excuse for a
> country road.
>
> It closed Monday for 2 weeks, for a much needed and well deserved make
> over. ?Should be open again July 6, according to the signs.
>
> http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20106210324
> http://delcotimes.com/articles/2010/06/17/news/doc4c1a465e7fb2a318216814.txt
> http://www.senatorkatz.com/
> http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/Legis/PN/Public/btCheck.cfm?txtType=PDF&sessYr=2009&sessInd=0&billBody=H&billTyp=B&billNbr=0585&pn=0642
>
> PennDOT will pay for the makeover, about $200K. ?Del DOT will agree to
> maintain it. ?Woodlawn Trustees agree to hand over "ownership" to PA.
>
> I love the spin in the article, declaring this a shining example of
> interstate cooperation.
> That would have been true had it not taken 20+ years to
> orchestrate...............
>
> Nonetheless, I'm glad they located their missing round TUIT's.
> And rescued Beaver Dam Rd from its agonizing loneliness
>
> Erik with a "k"
> West Chester
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From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 00:39:26 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:39:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] GPS Features [was Directions Needed]
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikMj9HsrfJSq3_YYgKf9VJhXl-lswku4fLvqAdt@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikMj9HsrfJSq3_YYgKf9VJhXl-lswku4fLvqAdt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik-HoFaq28mApNZKB1n_SruM-mk9PztIv_jG-Fp@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Mike:

Let me get this straight... You are complaining because you're
cheaper, less than deluxe GPS, does not have the features of the more
exprnsive one? You get what you pay for. Just look at your bike.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 00:42:53 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:42:53 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Earthquake...
In-Reply-To: <4C229A2E.4040409@ptd.net>
References: <AANLkTin0kn2Jb_6dI9WWdNglf1MIA4wE2oWLCNb7RT96@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C229A2E.4040409@ptd.net>
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Dear Mike:

Is the bike okay? And you're family... Are they all right?

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From Buzbiker1 at aol.com  Thu Jun 24 01:14:00 2010
From: Buzbiker1 at aol.com (Buzbiker1 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:14:00 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Earthquake...
Message-ID: <168a1.4e63708a.39540b58@aol.com>

That was Jack Riepe jogging.  Is he still  in NY???

Buzz Davis
337 Beaumont Road
Devon, PA.  19333
610-574-0927
buzbiker1 at aol.com

In a message dated 6/23/2010  7:35:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
chrisjac at ptd.net writes:
Michael Cantwell  wrote:
> just had a pretty substantial earthquake here in the  Adirondacks...
>   

oh, no the big one approaches.  

Really though, quakes on the east coast can be felt for much greater  
distances, given the same magnitude quake, as compared to the west  
cost.  Enjoy.

Chris  Jaccarino
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From rsorens at comcast.net  Thu Jun 24 01:18:43 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:18:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <8CCE136CD1A63B9-10D8-2348@webmail-m025.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <C20C0585EC0440B4899DBB6E4D6FF785@Tekki>

>...Lane splitting....... not easy to do on these wide load bikes. That's
why my NYC friends don't use side cases.

We lane split when the group of 7 went to Monterey; both Linda and I had the
deep lids on BMW system cases on our RT's. Had no problem whatsoever fitting
between cars.

I was amazed at the CA drivers who seemed trained to pull out if the way of
moto's coming up behind them.


Rick


From rsorens at comcast.net  Thu Jun 24 01:20:09 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:20:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT- PA Battle Lines
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimhtLh02GOBzzTQ8nv09Ohr0i2hJWDt1Kaa6J_U@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9937D27957634F639FE8524D6FC6956D@Tekki>

>If you're crossing Illinois you have to unload your gun and lock it where
you cannot easily access it -- like in the trunk of your car, or in a saddle
bag....unless you are a sworn "peace officer" or a criminal who doesn't give
a crap about laws.
 
Yup, same for Maryland, New Yawk and a bunch of other candy-assed states
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From Buzbiker1 at aol.com  Thu Jun 24 01:26:01 2010
From: Buzbiker1 at aol.com (Buzbiker1 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:26:01 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
Message-ID: <172bd.49de8ab1.39540e29@aol.com>

Its because in America "Road Rage" is an  accepted practice.  If you drive 
in Italy, France, Germany etc you will  never see drivers trying to kill 
other drivers or MC riders.  Over there  they respect the value of life and 
other people.  Here, if you kill someone  while driving you can brag about it 
in the bar that night and never feel any  trepidation about being prosecuted. 
 Just look at the numerous instances of  drivers killing bikers and never 
even getting a ticket.  Not only that but  they'll look you straight in the 
eye and then cut you  off.

Buzz

Buzz Davis
337 Beaumont Road
Devon, PA.  19333
610-574-0927
buzbiker1 at aol.com

In a message dated 6/23/2010  5:14:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
tpcutter at aol.com  writes:

<<However, truckers go ballistic and road-raged when they  see me do 
it.Twice they have tried to block or run me off the road. Near  
Denverlast week one whipped his huge rig over to the edge of the  
pavementright in front of me, so I had to drop into the grass to get  
aroundhis front bumper.My question, to Todd Trumbore, and other  
experienced rig drivers, is"What is their problem?".  Are they using  
their trucks to enforce whatthey think is the law?  What would their  
bosses have to say aboutthat?.  I suspect that they just HATE to see  
anyone get ahead of themin a line, which sounds pretty mean-spirited to  
me. I am tempted tostop the next time and attempt to discuss it with 
the  driver, withoutmuch hope of coming to a friendly resolution.>>

That  is assault. You should get their rig data (plate, company, etc.) 
and report  it to the police and to their company. That trucker will be 
a pedestrian if  you do that. Word gets around.


-- 
Tom Cutter
Yardley,  PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 01:38:00 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:38:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
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Written like someone who has never done it.

On 6/23/10, hugh mccann <hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com> wrote:

>  What are your (pl.) thoughts. I personally am against it because it
>  flies in the face of the rules we are trying to get all drivers to
>  adhere.

The sound of envy.  "If I can't do it NO ONE should be able to do it."

>  Deep down, for me, i know that in an emergency, my 2-wheels can get me
>  to places my 4 wheels cannot, and when that time arises, I am
>  confident that the center lane, the shoulder, kids water park, will
>  serve as a wonderful egress to my final destination.

Don't count on it.  There will be those with the same envy that you
have just espoused.

>  It seems like tempting fate, like not Snipping, or challenging a grown
>  man with a giant spoon in his hand.

Beware the spoon!

>  No, non-emergency vehicle, should get special dispensation when caught
>  in traffic. My car doesn't.

THINK it through a bit more.  Think of those people that WERE behind
the guy who slowly rolled up the shoulder.  (One of the reasons that
shoulders are slow travel is due low load carrying capacity. High
speeds are effectively impact loads and HIGH.  A bike is light and low
speed, not damage to the shoulder.)

The people that WERE behind him now moved up one vehicle length.
Multiply that by many bikes and suddenly the car folks are A HEAD of
where they were.

Now being the guy sliding through when you "have to"...  Not with my X
SIL's BIL who when we were talking about it, said "I will open my
door."  And there are clueless that have no knowledge of statics and
dynamics who would.  It sounds good until the door is just angled and
the hot motorcycle engine takes up residence in their lap along with a
mangled rider.

Hot motorcycle engines in the crotch is NOT good.  He went "OH"...

There are nutcases out in CA that will be lane splitting at 70+.
Anything goes wrong and they are toast.

Most of the lane splitting is at decently slow speeds.  And it is
BETWEEN LANES and not the shoulder.

I did it MANY years ago on the PA TPK when there was a wreck WAY up
there.  I had a LOT of truckers hollering at me.  I got to the point
where I could see the "bright lights" and stopped.

I walked up, saw what was going on and talked to the troopers a bit.
The young pup was not talking to any civliians...  The olde dude asked
me "Are you very far back?"  I said not too far.  He told me to make
my way to the front.  He wanted me in front of the traffic when they
started it moving not caught back in with the people sleeping.  He
used thinking and judgment.  (It was about 2A)  (They had given up on
righting the trailer and were going to push it to the side and deal
with it in the morning.)

I split to the front and was the leader of the pack when the traffic
started moving.

So, I have been told by a PA SP to "split lanes".

Over in France some minister said that they were going to not allow
lane splitting any more.  So, the French Motorcyclists went out on the
highway in mass.  NOT lane splitting.  Suddenly traffic ground to a
halt as they were not taking up a FULL LANE that another vehicle could
have been taking.  Point made.

In CA the car drivers don't have such small penis's and will move
sideways a bit when they see someone splitting.  They always got a
wave from me.

Splitting besides a full width tractor trailer always was "iffy" for
me, but I did it now and again.

Lane splitting is to the advantage of those in a car or truck if they
can get over the damn envy of "Well if _I_ can't do it, NO ONE SHOULD"


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From saylorspond at comcast.net  Thu Jun 24 02:09:16 2010
From: saylorspond at comcast.net (saylorspond at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 02:09:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <20741369.9544201277345122999.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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>?The other two were driving minivans. If that 
kid lives long enough, he will probably drive a minivan too. 

And now for something completely different :? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql-N3F1FhW4 





Scott Miller (aka Bu ford Snodgrass) 
Drexel Hill, PA 
1999 R1100RT-P 



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From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 02:16:27 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:16:27 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Win $3K,Vote for only M/C in X-Prize
Message-ID: <AANLkTil-DtqGu8iT_R-dLkLYWt2OLjIcg4gEFHRlC3yy@mail.gmail.com>

Please help Pac members.

It seems that we need your help in securing the X-PRIZE.

It is not just an economy run, it also is about what is most likely to
gain public acceptance, so your vote matters (the leader today had
only 98 votes (we were 9th).

We are the only motorcycle in the event!

http://www.progressiveautoxprize.org/fan-favorites?poll=170

Thanks,

ECO Dano and ECO Tom

Michigan International Speedway

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 24 02:18:54 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:18:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDERS' DINNER!!! this group is going to the dogs...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimNmMXjKokkvV8_ArI0aoiMnCZNo9m59SD7x77h@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C84838CE.469F%jasiii@earthlink.net>

> 
> See you next Wednesday!
> 
> Ken Bruce


Jim is a Yes; Anita is a maybe

Jim
-- 
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881



From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 02:25:18 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:25:18 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Win $3K,Vote for only M/C in X-Prize
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil-DtqGu8iT_R-dLkLYWt2OLjIcg4gEFHRlC3yy@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil-DtqGu8iT_R-dLkLYWt2OLjIcg4gEFHRlC3yy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinzE-JQw5E6gTKfLqUPxt462WmTurcJQDO8bioP@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/23/10, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:
>  It is not just an economy run, it also is about what is most likely to
>  gain public acceptance, so your vote matters (the leader today had
>  only 98 votes (we were 9th).
>
>  We are the only motorcycle in the event!
>
>  http://www.progressiveautoxprize.org/fan-favorites?poll=170

You need to register.

Is there any difference in the two X-tracers on voting?

It appears that the voting will run through sometime in September.

It is tied to an e-mail account, so if you have multiple accounts...
Might need more than one browser too.

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From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 02:36:05 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:36:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Win $3K,Vote for only M/C in X-Prize
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil-DtqGu8iT_R-dLkLYWt2OLjIcg4gEFHRlC3yy@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil-DtqGu8iT_R-dLkLYWt2OLjIcg4gEFHRlC3yy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinR9JP-VwPkYDWmwEIJH0KxbQnmLEx4xRSQhXXL@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Please help Pac members.
>
> It seems that we need your help in securing the X-PRIZE.
>
> It is not just an economy run, it also is about what is most likely to
> gain public acceptance, so your vote matters (the leader today had
> only 98 votes (we were 9th).
>
> We are the only motorcycle in the event!
>
> http://www.progressiveautoxprize.org/fan-favorites?poll=170
>

The voting deal is:
1. you do have to register at the site above, takes a couple of
minutes only.  Your ID will be whatever email address you like.
2. the current vote is for Most Stylish
3. As of 7/6 the next vote is for Most Innovative
4. As of 7/27 the next vote will be Most Practical
5. As of 8/17 the last vote will be Most Wanted (what I most want to own).

They report that 4413 votes have been cast so far.

Seems a bit elaborate, but I cast my vote for eTracer as Most Stylish,
of course.

It is incredibly stupid that you must vote for either eTracer 7002 or
7009, which are identical, and currently getting about 50/50, IOW
competing against each other.  Who made these rules?

Dan, is there now a brief summary of performance results?  Dumb it down, please.

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 02:54:35 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:54:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Earthquake...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimU-WJyIIKo4_GqViPb_WHwJzHM-ACuetI_Ekrv@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin0kn2Jb_6dI9WWdNglf1MIA4wE2oWLCNb7RT96@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C229A2E.4040409@ptd.net>
	<AANLkTimU-WJyIIKo4_GqViPb_WHwJzHM-ACuetI_Ekrv@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikzSD96pZSF_7v6xEM3htgN9KoEUPxUL5i7W3Uw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Jack,
It was thirty seconds of shear terror! I was kicking back chatting
with a colleague when I hear a little squeaking noise in the corner. I
didn't pay any attention to it until my colleague told me to stop
shaking her desk! And then, I was like "Wow, it's an earthquake." and
then it was over. My god was I scared. I immediately alerted the
Mac-Pac that I had survived and then, after about twenty minutes I
called my wife to see if she was ok. She said "What!? You're shitting
me right?" I kid you not! She was totally clueless! And then she told
me to stop and get milk on the way home from work.
For that thirty seconds or so, man I was like, "Wow, an earthquake."
When I asked my therapist if she felt it, she said "Your friggin'
crazy pal! There wasn't any friggin' earthquake!" Then I was like,
"Shit yeah bitch!" and now I'm at home, thinking "what the fuck is
going to happen tomorrow?"

Regards,
Michael.

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mike:
>
> Is the bike okay? And you're family... Are they all right?
>
> --
> Fondest regards,
> Jack
> The Lindbergh Baby
> West Chester, Pa
>
> "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
> have to be nice to them, at first."
> ? My Mother, Rita Riepe
>

From gary5410 at aol.com  Thu Jun 24 02:55:45 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:55:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Win $3K,Vote for only M/C in X-Prize
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinR9JP-VwPkYDWmwEIJH0KxbQnmLEx4xRSQhXXL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil-DtqGu8iT_R-dLkLYWt2OLjIcg4gEFHRlC3yy@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinR9JP-VwPkYDWmwEIJH0KxbQnmLEx4xRSQhXXL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CCE15FE01EBCBA-10D8-4C9D@webmail-m025.sysops.aol.com>



voted
Gary Christman
'07  R 1200 GS Adventure

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 03:14:20 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:14:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <1799889146.9545951277345356483.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <20741369.9544201277345122999.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<1799889146.9545951277345356483.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimYWRAseIIVEmA55EEsrMAralYon92eS34HuX_G@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Buford Et Al:

There is never a machine gun around when you need one.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 03:25:24 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:25:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimYWRAseIIVEmA55EEsrMAralYon92eS34HuX_G@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20741369.9544201277345122999.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<1799889146.9545951277345356483.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<AANLkTimYWRAseIIVEmA55EEsrMAralYon92eS34HuX_G@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilMNshhXevdQQb6FgH134RmT2lkqKjI9ObuVuLC@mail.gmail.com>

Lady Gaga has one. You can borrow hers.
http://assets.gearlive.com/filmcrunch/blogimages/ladygaga_gun.jpg

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Buford Et Al:
>
> There is never a machine gun around when you need one.
>
>
> --
> Fondest regards,
> Jack
> The Lindbergh Baby
> West Chester, Pa
>
> "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
> have to be nice to them, at first."
> ? My Mother, Rita Riepe
> _______________________________________________
> Mac-pac-l mailing list
> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
>

From mrmevans at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 03:35:24 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:35:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] GPS Features [was Directions Needed]
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik-HoFaq28mApNZKB1n_SruM-mk9PztIv_jG-Fp@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikMj9HsrfJSq3_YYgKf9VJhXl-lswku4fLvqAdt@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik-HoFaq28mApNZKB1n_SruM-mk9PztIv_jG-Fp@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik1H0oplNtd6sTTRuYFbXU0a8LoJs6DdTs_3oez@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mike:
>
> Let me get this straight... You are complaining because you're
> cheaper, less than deluxe GPS, does not have the features of the more
> exprnsive one? You get what you pay for. Just look at your bike.
>
>

Dear Jack,

Some people can ride a simple, no frills Suzuki while others need
something a bit more durable.

Similarly, some people can sit on wicker furniture while others cannot.



On a side note I still want to stop over some time and pick up two
more copies of your book. I'll be sure to park the BlueZookie at the
A-Plus around the corner and walk down to your place so as not to
negatively impact your property values.

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From William.Rompala at kantarmedia.com  Thu Jun 24 08:10:55 2010
From: William.Rompala at kantarmedia.com (William Rompala)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:10:55 +0200
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil2EOL1vhf0gPH-Ml5hTX6S9GHdVtFRtQXBPOGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil2EOL1vhf0gPH-Ml5hTX6S9GHdVtFRtQXBPOGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DEF1CC65-0EE1-4A2D-AEAE-4A2E77003904@kantarmedia.com>

> "Over in France some minister said that they were going to not allow
> lane splitting any more.  So, the French Motorcyclists went out on the
> highway in mass.  NOT lane splitting.  Suddenly traffic ground to a
> halt as they were not taking up a FULL LANE that another vehicle could
> have been taking.  Point made."
> 


Seconded on the lane splitting in France- I'm over here for this week. Large population of cycles and scooters over here.  Would be catastrophic if they all got in line in Paris- the whole traffic flow works extremely well with them  in the virtual 'tween lanes. Also of note is a large collection of dynamic bicycle rental kiosks all over the city- take a bike, use it and return it to any of the stations all over. Very nice.  I'm staying in saint germaine en laye- about 10k from Paris- and the motorcycle population is huge here.  

Will


Sent from my iPad

On Jun 24, 2010, at 3:39 AM, "Brian Curry" <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
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From wayne at 2zars.com  Thu Jun 24 10:01:07 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 06:01:07 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Earthquake...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikzSD96pZSF_7v6xEM3htgN9KoEUPxUL5i7W3Uw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin0kn2Jb_6dI9WWdNglf1MIA4wE2oWLCNb7RT96@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C229A2E.4040409@ptd.net>
	<AANLkTimU-WJyIIKo4_GqViPb_WHwJzHM-ACuetI_Ekrv@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikzSD96pZSF_7v6xEM3htgN9KoEUPxUL5i7W3Uw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pva626pgf86l0henfaiu2bia2nv7qkh4gh@4ax.com>


> and now I'm at home, thinking "what the fuck is
>going to happen tomorrow?"
>

absofuckinglutely nothing.




Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From Ducdude at verizon.net  Thu Jun 24 10:56:25 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 06:56:25 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Win $3K,Vote for only M/C in X-Prize
References: <AANLkTil-DtqGu8iT_R-dLkLYWt2OLjIcg4gEFHRlC3yy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <973CA6D1DDE446F9A8CCCB8008EE3C8F@heilveil5e3fdd>

Done,,,

But Doug is correct and they should pool the votes for each one together..

Duc
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Whitfield" <whitfield.dan at gmail.com>
To: "Mac-Pac" <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:16 PM
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Win $3K,Vote for only M/C in X-Prize


> Please help Pac members.
> 
> It seems that we need your help in securing the X-PRIZE.
> 
> It is not just an economy run, it also is about what is most likely to
> gain public acceptance, so your vote matters (the leader today had
> only 98 votes (we were 9th).
> 
> We are the only motorcycle in the event!
> 
> http://www.progressiveautoxprize.org/fan-favorites?poll=170
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> ECO Dano and ECO Tom
> 
> Michigan International Speedway
> _______________________________________________
> Mac-pac-l mailing list
> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
>

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 24 12:29:32 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:29:32 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Win $3K,Vote for only M/C in X-Prize
Message-ID: <214001.1277382572895.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>
Did my Mac-Pac duty & voted

Jim

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 13:37:53 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:37:53 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <DEF1CC65-0EE1-4A2D-AEAE-4A2E77003904@kantarmedia.com>
References: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil2EOL1vhf0gPH-Ml5hTX6S9GHdVtFRtQXBPOGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<DEF1CC65-0EE1-4A2D-AEAE-4A2E77003904@kantarmedia.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikAXirsinrWR1RV6QY80GL4O6abvw6ZeaSgE4wn@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:10 AM, William Rompala
<William.Rompala at kantarmedia.com> wrote:
>> "Over in France some minister said that they were going to not allow
>> lane splitting any more. ?So, the French Motorcyclists went out on the
>> highway in mass. ?NOT lane splitting. ?Suddenly traffic ground to a
>> halt as they were not taking up a FULL LANE that another vehicle could
>> have been taking. ?Point made."
>>
>
>
> Seconded on the lane splitting in France- I'm over here for this week. Large population of cycles and scooters over here. ?Would be catastrophic if they all got in line in Paris- the whole traffic flow works extremely well with them ?in the virtual 'tween lanes. Also of note is a large collection of dynamic bicycle rental kiosks all over the city- take a bike, use it and return it to any of the stations all over. Very nice. ?I'm staying in saint germaine en laye- about 10k from Paris- and the motorcycle population is huge here.
>
> Will
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
Cool, start a thread on how you like iPad, especially for travelling.
On a motorcycle, of course.
..snip...

The European model, of fitting motorbikes into the 'holes' in traffic,
is efficient, insane and amusing, and of course I enjoy it a lot.
Especially the part about all bikes moving forward to the head of the
line at red lights and RR crossings.

However, American drivers are unaware of it so it is not relevant to
discussion of lane-splitting in USA.  So in my next friendly
discussion with a truck driver I won't be telling him what they do in
France.

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From gsrider at opposedtwin.com  Thu Jun 24 14:00:16 2010
From: gsrider at opposedtwin.com (Steve Semonsky)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:00:16 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikAXirsinrWR1RV6QY80GL4O6abvw6ZeaSgE4wn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil2EOL1vhf0gPH-Ml5hTX6S9GHdVtFRtQXBPOGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<DEF1CC65-0EE1-4A2D-AEAE-4A2E77003904@kantarmedia.com>
	<AANLkTikAXirsinrWR1RV6QY80GL4O6abvw6ZeaSgE4wn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <96C40B12-CB20-48AC-AE6D-D4D33328DDB4@opposedtwin.com>


On Jun 24, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Doug Raymond wrote:

> The European model, of fitting motorbikes into the 'holes' in traffic,
> is efficient, insane and amusing, and of course I enjoy it a lot.

Having just returned from another trip to SE Asia I'd say that this  
isn't just a European model; maybe it's more of an everywhere-but-usa  
model? Watching the bikes go to the front of the pack at red lights  
then take off and swarm off to the side when tthe light turns green is  
definitely amusing. I was more than a little nervous the first time I  
rented a bike and participated in that sport...

Cheers,
Steve

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 14:01:58 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:01:58 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Humor: Cow, an Ant and an Old Fart
Message-ID: <AANLkTikpsUo_uwfhOLvdmwqxkNuPT2dacH3yBggbUZQo@mail.gmail.com>

A Cow, an Ant and an Old Fart are debating on who is the greatest of
the three of them.






The Cow:  I give 50 litres  of milk every day    and that's why I am
the  greatest!!






The Ant:  I work day and night, summer and winter, I can carry 52
times my own weight and that's why I am the greatest!!





























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From tpcutter at aol.com  Thu Jun 24 14:16:33 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:16:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <96C40B12-CB20-48AC-AE6D-D4D33328DDB4@opposedtwin.com>
References: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTil2EOL1vhf0gPH-Ml5hTX6S9GHdVtFRtQXBPOGw@mail.gmail.com><DEF1CC65-0EE1-4A2D-AEAE-4A2E77003904@kantarmedia.com><AANLkTikAXirsinrWR1RV6QY80GL4O6abvw6ZeaSgE4wn@mail.gmail.com>
	<96C40B12-CB20-48AC-AE6D-D4D33328DDB4@opposedtwin.com>
Message-ID: <8CCE1BEFBCBACEB-2B78-8ACD@Webmail-d104.sysops.aol.com>


<<Having just returned from another trip to SE Asia I'd say that this  
isn't just a European model; maybe it's more of an everywhere-but-usa  
model? Watching the bikes go to the front of the pack at red lights  
then take off and swarm off to the side when tthe light turns green is  
definitely amusing. I was more than a little nervous the first time I  
rented a bike and participated in that sport...>>

I, too was greatly amused by the swarms of scooters filtering to the 
front at every traffic light.

I observed that the women usually win the drag race off the light, I 
guess because they are quite a bit lighter. I also think that a mini 
skirt and a cell phone at the ear seem to help acceleration.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 14:25:14 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:25:14 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <96C40B12-CB20-48AC-AE6D-D4D33328DDB4@opposedtwin.com>
References: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Steve Semonsky
<gsrider at opposedtwin.com> wrote:
>
> On Jun 24, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Doug Raymond wrote:
>
>> The European model, of fitting motorbikes into the 'holes' in traffic,
>> is efficient, insane and amusing, and of course I enjoy it a lot.
>
> Having just returned from another trip to SE Asia I'd say that this
> isn't just a European model; maybe it's more of an everywhere-but-usa
> model? Watching the bikes go to the front of the pack at red lights
> then take off and swarm off to the side when tthe light turns green is
> definitely amusing. I was more than a little nervous the first time I
> rented a bike and participated in that sport...
>

Yes, everywhere but USA.

In Rome, the available 'holes' for motorbikes include all the oncoming
lanes, whenever they are momentarily empty.  I enjoyed this game too
on my rented scooter, though even Italians told me not to do it.

Taking issue with a previous statement by Buzz, in my experience
American drivers are generally the most courteous.  Particularly in
merging traffic and even passing, we patiently take our turn, whereas
in Europe this is a fight to the death where your manhood is at stake,
even if you are a woman.  I think we have a sense of 'fairness' and
'greater good' here.  And somehow, those lousy lane-splitting
breakdownlane-driving motorcycles in USA violate this sense of
'fairness', even if it makes for a 'greater good'.

Also in my opinion, the expansive, generous and tolerant American
personality is related to our infinite open spaces we have or can move
to if necessary, whereas in Europe conditions are more like rats in
barrel, and your personality must learn to cope with that, and fight
for every advantage.

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 14:54:00 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:54:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <37C3CA7A92D5442C94245A58185D7E20@dellfe483b726d>
References: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Todd Trumbore <motorrader at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> My question, to Todd Trumbore, and other experienced rig drivers, is
>> "What is their problem?". ?Are they using their trucks to enforce what
>> they think is the law? ?What would their bosses have to say about
>> that?. ?I suspect that they just HATE to see anyone get ahead of them
>> in a line, which sounds pretty mean-spirited to me. I am tempted to
>> stop the next time and attempt to discuss it with the driver, without
>> much hope of coming to a friendly resolution.
>
> Doug Raymond
>
>
> Doug,
> As a commercial driver with a couple million miles on my clock, I see this
> all the time and it doesn't bother me one bit,...
...snip..

Thanks Todd.  I'm going to print this out, and at my next
confrontation with a truck driver I'm going to ask him to put his gun
down and read it.

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From motorrader at verizon.net  Thu Jun 24 14:46:23 2010
From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:46:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
References: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil-w1YKZW5VpVv-A7RmD8uT9_WV2ej56b4ycft9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37C3CA7A92D5442C94245A58185D7E20@dellfe483b726d>

>
> My question, to Todd Trumbore, and other experienced rig drivers, is
> "What is their problem?".  Are they using their trucks to enforce what
> they think is the law?  What would their bosses have to say about
> that?.  I suspect that they just HATE to see anyone get ahead of them
> in a line, which sounds pretty mean-spirited to me. I am tempted to
> stop the next time and attempt to discuss it with the driver, without
> much hope of coming to a friendly resolution.

 Doug Raymond


Doug,
As a commercial driver with a couple million miles on my clock, I see this 
all the time and it doesn't bother me one bit, in fact it works in my favor 
because I get paid by the hour.  But, most CDs are paid by mileage and if 
they aren't moving, they aren't making any money, so what very often happens 
is when one cage starts to work his way up the shoulder, many more cages 
follow behind and this tends to iritate the mileage drivers as they see 
themselves being delayed even more.

 Now, one or two motorbikes passing along the side should not make any 
difference to anyone, they certainly will not be holding any driver back 
once things clear.

Funny story.  About 4 years ago on a 4th of July weekend, I was heading to 
Baltimore on a Friday night.  I95 was a parking lot with road construction 
and extremely heavy holiday traffic.  At this particular section of I95 
there were 5 lanes with the merger of  the  I495 beltway.  One woman must 
have been in a big, big hurry, because she worked her way from the far outer 
lane ( 5th lane) over time trying to get over to the shoulder where she 
thought she could bypass a few travelers.

Eventually she manage to move over one lane at a time and she reached the 
shoulder as she passed in front of me,...........hey, what did I care! 
Problem was she miscalculated.  When traffic gets this backed up the CDs get 
off to the side of the road whenever possible to kill their clock ( drive 
time)  You only have eleven hours of ROAD TIME/DAY as per Federal DOT 
regulations.

This lady was able to sneak by the first rig, but the second fellow was only 
halfway off the shoulder, so when she tried to sneak by with her Explorer 
she ripped up his step rail, front quarter panel and front bumper......and 
this was a fairly new rig.  The guy was HOT !!!

The driver feeling his rig rocking side to side from the impact wakes up and 
starts running after her in his boxer shorts and bare feet.   He caught up 
to her in no time, because she was blocked by the next rig.   Pretty 
entertaining for me as I got to watch it unfold.   I think there was some 
pretty colorful language being exchanged in that ladies Explorer.

Todd 


From tallone.eric at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 15:55:56 2010
From: tallone.eric at gmail.com (eric eckstein)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:55:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilfWzRcnocJsWvMl64j1L7evj6dGc4gFqjBOPWl@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil-w1YKZW5VpVv-A7RmD8uT9_WV2ej56b4ycft9@mail.gmail.com>
	<37C3CA7A92D5442C94245A58185D7E20@dellfe483b726d>
	<AANLkTilfWzRcnocJsWvMl64j1L7evj6dGc4gFqjBOPWl@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikD7zgowsz63NwVi5xrXcCnSZgvSPf9OfHiO95K@mail.gmail.com>

I travel to India on business at least once per year and the number of
motorcycles/scooters FAR outnumbers cars/trucks/trikes.   The only way
that I can describe the traffic is "swarm and flow"...   When stopped
at the occasional traffic light (very few and far between, even in
Hyderabad with a population of 8-10M) all the scooters and motorcycles
(125cc is a BIG bike there) move around you and fill EVERY gap.
Light turns green and an organized beep, beep, move shuffle progress
happens...

When going down roads and the traffic is going to slow in your
direction, or is too congested, no problem...   just move into the
on-coming traffic (I kid you not, at this point I usually put my head
down and don't look) and the driver taps his horn and people just move
out of the way...

In all the time I have been traveling to India, I have never seen a
car accident.   I am SURE they happen all the time, its just that
everyone just seems to take it all in stride and do not get themselves
upset...


As for drivers in here is the USA...  (and I pre-apologize for this rant...)

Minivans are guaranteed to drift, change lanes unexpectedly, tailgate,
short cut the turn, drive too slow, lane weave (they do need the WHOLE
lane right up to the edge), cut you off, and basically do whatever
else they darn well please.

After all the parent needs to get Johnny and Jane to the after school,
pre-dinner, sat, pitching, dance, football,  hockey, play session ON
TIME so that they can get to Starbucks for their double-mocha, supremo
latte!   Oh, and after that, get them each to their every-child wins,
there are no loosers, life is good, soccer game for their trophy...

Kind Regards,

Eric


Eric Eckstein
2003 K1200GT
1995 K75 (now gone)

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 16:59:20 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:59:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilrsCMadrT3Oev3_5gd3XwyGLC92NZwB7eFFq0Y@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilKj0XloRBkfmB4D2MOk2MLVshLO3HkDhITFccX@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil-w1YKZW5VpVv-A7RmD8uT9_WV2ej56b4ycft9@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilrsCMadrT3Oev3_5gd3XwyGLC92NZwB7eFFq0Y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinqDhNcQfhNXJqdNXVLSHti66ovyT7goPUdfYtf@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Michael Evans <mrmevans at gmail.com> wrote:
....snip..
> Hey Doug,
>
> The truckers must not realize that if you didn't lane split, the
> wolves would catch you.
>
Hey Michael,

Ha ha.  May the wolves chase you.
-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 17:00:06 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:00:06 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Nothing like having your own personal rollercoaster
Message-ID: <AANLkTilCd_iG1ypB51xSSlmNt1sxH4B0lOVFJbKyZ4jc@mail.gmail.com>

complete with a loop...

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1937521
(WS)

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From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 17:01:58 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:01:58 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:Cheap Hard Drive for Desktop or External Enclosure
Message-ID: <AANLkTinFvFuGGlGgu6mcXl2oDLlVr-KANmb-5L_hD2jH@mail.gmail.com>

Most of the reviews are good too...
http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx


-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Thu Jun 24 17:36:55 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:36:55 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oaklane Red White and Blue night
Message-ID: <39265.12.181.211.35.1277401015.squirrel@12.181.211.35>

Guys,

Oaklane has its annual Red, White and Blue races on July 10th.  This is
our community outreach event.  If you were ever interested in seeing the
races this is the best show.  Admission and parking is free.  There will
plenty of value priced food.  We will have an honor guard and fireworks.

In addition it will be the sponsor cup race for Matt's Sr. Honda class. 
This is the biggest class in the country.  We typically get 45-50 cars to
compete for a spot in this race.  Hopefully Matt will put on a good show.

http://home.jtan.com/~joe/oaklane/oaklane_2010_rwb_flyer.pdf

Please e-mail me with questions.

Race Safe,

Joe


From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 17:45:13 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:45:13 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Nothing like having your own personal
	rollercoaster
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilCd_iG1ypB51xSSlmNt1sxH4B0lOVFJbKyZ4jc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilCd_iG1ypB51xSSlmNt1sxH4B0lOVFJbKyZ4jc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim6-IVDSsR1QTNx47XF8ovbgUh4HtddPoNAllOF@mail.gmail.com>

I think that is the coolest thing...

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 18:04:08 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:04:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakdown on the Pony Express Highway
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilretsFti5VuT6SkLWSpW3AMUMXIF9IN6lRmUB9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinGCQj95sMG1zHFdae_pIG4N4dhmgdCi0MUfp6Y@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTingZNUEoZjfAg7Acl8fmYPmp-ITVu2kxj6rkI3n@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin_Q0mEqm_7mL89TolkIuKR69mVtgVTAcbBDBfE@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTik1I9x8vRas1OmjQBs3zMZuui6OfUuK-kyOMDUh@mail.gmail.com>

Most people I have talked to do not seem to know that there is a much
more readable version of this story online, with photos.
http://2zars.com/mp/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Breakdown-on-the-Pony-Express-Highway.pdf

The story is the same, with a few minor corrections.

Thanks again to Wayne Woodruff for posting it there.
-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From motorrader at verizon.net  Thu Jun 24 20:42:29 2010
From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:42:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hutte's in Helvetia !
Message-ID: <D8359EA689804AF39F1622023EA7ECEE@dellfe483b726d>

June 18-20
Festival of the Fives Rally, Seneca Rocks, WV
?
?
It's no secret that West Virginia has some of the best riding in the mid-Atlantic region if not the whole east coast.? The Slash Five rally just gave me another excuse to spoil myself for three days.??As a further enticement,?Karl Duffner told me to take his highly coveted, recently restored and one of a kind?'70 R75/5.? He said it needed some exercise, ?I was more than honored and happy to do so.? Karl not only has an amazing collection of motorbikes, but he is not afraid to ride them AND............ Ride them he does!
?
I left shortly after 6 am on Friday wanting to make some headway before the rush hour traffic.?I worked my way west before dropping south into Maryland, West Virginia, Virginia then West Virginia once more.??I stopped?at Bob Evans for breakfast and gave Karl a call to let him know how things were going.? I told Karl the bike is running great, the weather was wonderful and the only thing missing was him riding as co-pilot.? These trips just aren't the same without him.
?
I arrived at my destination,?Yokum's Vacationland Resort, earlier than expected?with a broad smile after?carving through many?mountains and valleys.? For this rally most riders would camp, a few of us had reserved rooms at the lodge, I was one of those.? At $35 a night how could you go wrong!
?
I'll tell you how.? It was early afternoon and I just arrived after several hundred miles of riding in some?pretty warm weather.? I was ready for a quick shower to cool off and relax.?So I turned on both the hot and cold valves to the shower and waited but there was nothing but drip.....drip.....drip.....d..r..i..p !?? Huh,?this is not good, but I'm patient and not one to get too rattled.?? I wait 10 to 15 minutes with both valves still fully opened and low and behold I finally have enough pressure to quickly?lather up and?rinse off.? I'm in and out in 3 minutes.? Hell, it was?as though I was back at Marine Corps boot camp, Paris Island, SC without the drill instructors yelling at me.
?
Ok, now I'm feeling a little better and as I am drying off and changing into some fresh clothes I thought I'd turn on the TV and catch up on the news.? Huh,?the TV must have been 40 years old, wasn't even designed for a remote control,? I had to manually switch all three stations myself..............welcome to West Virginia.? Oh, and then there was the sign on the wall above the bed.? "Please excuse us for the stains on the sheets........... Due to the high content of iron in the water."? Whew,?I thought I was about to read something else!
?
Ahh, what do you expect anyway from such a class resort..........cell phone coverage??? I wasn't receiving that either.? In fact I had to ride 25 miles north to be able to call home to Laura and then later to Karl.? A 50 mile round trip to make a phone call but.......50?WONDERFUL miles!? All the locals will tell you, too many mountains, too little population, too few cell?towers AND the Green Bank Observatory cancelling out every signal for a?two hundred miles radius, or so it seemed.
?
I rested for a half hour, felt better and now it was time for a late lunch so I headed out to see what my options where.? Not many!? Seneca Rocks, WV consists of lots of rocks, rivers, mountains, a couple farms and homes but not much of anything else.? I found a cafe on the second floor of camping/hiking supply store.? My turkey sandwich came with home made potato salad and pickles.? It was all I needed because the view from the second floor patio of Seneca Rocks made for a pleasant experience.
?
I wondered downstairs and was hanging out at the other Yokum's General Store when I noticed lots of Harley riders stopping in to stretch their legs, looking for a? a refreshment or a smoke.? One of these Harley riders pulls up with a smile and we start to chat.? It was late Friday afternoon and he just got off work as a coal miner where he worked for the last 30 plus years.? He told me there is nothing he enjoys more than I nice long ride after spending the day inside a coal mine.? We chat some more, I ask lots of questions, and then he asks me what I'm riding.? I said follow me, we turn the corner and I show him Karl's bike.? He said "B? M? W,?I've never seen one of those".? "Are those made by the same folks who make the automobiles"?? I smile and nod accordingly.
?
It was still early and only a few slash five riders have arrived.? I introduce myself to everyone?exchange a few stories?then decide?that there is still time?to explore some of the finer roadways in the area.? I quickly noticed how remote this area is.? You do not want to pass on ANY opportunities to top off your fuel tank, even if you have an 8 and 1/2 gallon Heinrich tank.? I returned just before dark narrowly escape running into a deer that was positioned at the edge of the road waiting to dash to the other side.? This deer must have been corn feed it looked more like a draft horse with those stout legs.
?
The next morning I rise early again because I want to climb to the top of Seneca Rocks before it gets too hot.? It's?nice hike and if you push yourself you can make the climb in 45 - 60 minutes.?? A wonderful view of four valleys?awaits you atop a wooden landing at the peak.
?
More and more riders are arriving, but there is no formal agenda for this rally, so a couple of us decide to go for a nice ride and we plan a 250 mile loop.? I skip breakfast because I'm saving my appetite for a special destination.? 90 miles later we arrive in this very remote and fascinating Swiss/German village called Helvetia pronounced Hel-vay-sha,?Latin for Switzerland.? This village was settled in 1869 by a group of Swiss and German Americans where they were captivated by the beauty of the mountains.? It reminded them of The Fatherland.  There are many shops, studios, Inns, churches, schools, halls and museums, but our destination in Helvetia was the highly acclaimed and very unique Hutte's Restaurant.  This stop alone would have made my trip worth the while.  I'll admit that I'm no restaurateur or a pioneer of the palate, but the food and the atmosphere was something special.  Eleanor is the proprietor and she keep herself very busy running this place.  On Sundays they offer a real Swiss delight called" Bernerplatte".  If you plan on attending this country brunch, you may want to call first for reservations as they can only seat 48 guests. (304-924-6435) Oh, by the way their beer is served in real steins and they have a local micro brew that is very refreshing.
I was so impressed with Hutte's that this will be an annual stop for me.

After the lunch we continue on our loop and the roads just get better and better.  One sweeper after another with just enough shade from the tall trees to keep us cool even on this very warm day.  We work our way into French Creek, Rock Cave, Wheeler, Diana, Webster Springs before turning eastward and into Valley Head, Mingo and Snowshoe Mountain where we took a break and tried once again to call home, but still no cell coverage.  After a stroll through the village we saddle up and continue on to  Cass and pass by the scenic railroad and station, the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in Green Bank, then through Boyer Station, Cherry Grove, Circleville, Judy Gap before landing back at Seneca Rocks just as a rain shower darkened the skies and dampened the grounds. This 250 mile loop was filled with some of the best riding roads you will find anywhere and for the most part we had the roads to ourselves. It could not have been much better than that!

That evening was filled with lots of tire kicking and beer drinking around a blazing campfire.  Ducdude joined in on the activities and everyone seemed very pleased they made the trip.  Although the turnout was modest by any rally standards, the camaraderie was no different. 

Sunday morning I again rose early for a very relaxing ride home on all rural roads.  I look forward to next year's rally where I plan to order the Sauerbraten at Hutte's.  This stop alone is worth the trip!

Auf Wiedersehen,
Todd Trumbore


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From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Thu Jun 24 20:44:03 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:44:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Solution to the oil spill
Message-ID: <922248637.10172001277412243244.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Hmmm, it just might work. . . 

http://www.sharenator.com/Solution_to_the_Oil_Spill/ 


John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 20:56:31 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:56:31 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Win $3K,Vote for only M/C in X-Prize
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinR9JP-VwPkYDWmwEIJH0KxbQnmLEx4xRSQhXXL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil-DtqGu8iT_R-dLkLYWt2OLjIcg4gEFHRlC3yy@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinR9JP-VwPkYDWmwEIJH0KxbQnmLEx4xRSQhXXL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilxWBj2kzvJDOYtyfRxdZUHS00MQndrPs882Uxh@mail.gmail.com>

>>
>> We are the only motorcycle in the event!
>>
>> http://www.progressiveautoxprize.org/fan-favorites?poll=170
>>
>
> The voting deal is:
> 1. you do have to register at the site above, takes a couple of
> minutes only. ?Your ID will be whatever email address you like.
> 2. the current vote is for Most Stylish
> 3. As of 7/6 the next vote is for Most Innovative
> 4. As of 7/27 the next vote will be Most Practical
> 5. As of 8/17 the last vote will be Most Wanted (what I most want to own).
>
> They report that 4413 votes have been cast so far.
>
> Seems a bit elaborate, but I cast my vote for eTracer as Most Stylish,
> of course.
>
> It is incredibly stupid that you must vote for either eTracer 7002 or
> 7009, which are identical, and currently getting about 50/50, IOW
> competing against each other. ?Who made these rules?
>
> Dan, is there now a brief summary of performance results? ?Dumb it down, please.


They are not announcing the results here yet (is that dumbed down enough?).

Thanks to all who will vote!!



ECO Dano

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 03:36:53 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:36:53 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Win $3K,Vote for only M/C in X-Prize
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilxWBj2kzvJDOYtyfRxdZUHS00MQndrPs882Uxh@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil-DtqGu8iT_R-dLkLYWt2OLjIcg4gEFHRlC3yy@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinR9JP-VwPkYDWmwEIJH0KxbQnmLEx4xRSQhXXL@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilxWBj2kzvJDOYtyfRxdZUHS00MQndrPs882Uxh@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik5XM0pC-9aBT5Cd5p3DLgMKKZjQNP0G2Lg6lFS@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:
...snip....
> They are not announcing the results here yet (is that dumbed down enough?).
>

Yes, that's dumb enough. Two days after a state-of-the-art,
computer-monitored event, they can't say who won the event?  Sounds
like the election in Afghanistan.  It's not the eTracer's fault, but I
wonder what kind of people or marketers are running this event.

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From 321design at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 11:43:51 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:43:51 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Yesterday's storm
Message-ID: <AANLkTikkQrswU0-nFPZk8WC45AXnsCLzpF_GbzHx6TBC@mail.gmail.com>

The storm that went through yesterday took out 3 of my trees and threw
a branch into my roof. No riding this weekend for me. Chop chop time.
Power still out.

At work in Morgantown, major wind and rain; 75MPH+ allegedly. I have
to say I have never seen it rain so hard.

-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From honeybrk at dejazzd.com  Fri Jun 25 12:26:05 2010
From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:26:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Yesterday's storm
References: <AANLkTikkQrswU0-nFPZk8WC45AXnsCLzpF_GbzHx6TBC@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005a01cb1461$955e4e80$4101a8c0@FastHP>

> The storm that went through yesterday took out 3 of my trees and threw
> a branch into my roof. No riding this weekend for me. Chop chop time.
> Power still out.
>
> At work in Morgantown, major wind and rain; 75MPH+ allegedly. I have
> to say I have never seen it rain so hard.
>
Also, in Morgantown, we had  7/10 (.71) of an inch of rain in 10 minutes We 
lost power twice for several  hours each time. But it came back on for good 
around 10 PM  Cable is still out this AM.  Not much damage in the 
neighborhood.  Just a couple branches and lots of leaves.  The storm came up 
so fast.  They say it was traveling at 50 mph

Marge 


From saylorspond at comcast.net  Fri Jun 25 12:53:09 2010
From: saylorspond at comcast.net (saylorspond at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:53:09 +0000
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Yesterday's storm
Message-ID: <996174828-1277470372-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1220769898-@bda285.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Most of Drexel Hill lost power yesterday afternoon and it has yet to be restored.  There are trees down for several blocks.  We had golf ball sized hail traveling horizontally.  The side of my truck looks like someone took a hammer to it and I lost several windows.  Thankfully our 80+ year old Horse Chestnut tree only lost leaves and a few small branches.

Cheers,

Scott
1999 R1100RTP
Drexel Hill 
------Original Message------
From: Rob Haut
Sender: mac-pac-l-bounces+saylorspond=comcast.net at jtan.com
To: Mac-Pac
Sent: Jun 25, 2010 7:43 AM
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Yesterday's storm

The storm that went through yesterday took out 3 of my trees and threw
a branch into my roof. No riding this weekend for me. Chop chop time.
Power still out.

At work in Morgantown, major wind and rain; 75MPH+ allegedly. I have
to say I have never seen it rain so hard.

-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW
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From motorrader at verizon.net  Fri Jun 25 13:36:18 2010
From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:36:18 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Road Test 1929 R16 BMW
Message-ID: <AA31DB91C8B641FD91B1F89EF46D8664@dellfe483b726d>

http://thevintagent.blogspot.com/2010/06/bavarian-road-test-4-29-bmw-r16.html

From rollybrown at verizon.net  Fri Jun 25 13:41:03 2010
From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:41:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Yesterday's storm
In-Reply-To: <996174828-1277470372-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1220769898-@bda285.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <996174828-1277470372-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1220769898-@bda285.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <E0975535-B14F-4948-9947-0022AA169341@verizon.net>

On Jun 25, 2010, at 8:53 AM, saylorspond at comcast.net wrote:

> Most of Drexel Hill lost power yesterday afternoon and it has yet to be restored.  There are trees down for several blocks.  We had golf ball sized hail traveling horizontally.  

unbelievable! we usually lose power up here every time the wind blows, but that hardly even happened. just a few drops of rain, and no wind to speak of here in Sellersville. watching the sharp line of intense storm activity move through on the radar, it looked like we just missed the eastern edge of it by a hair:  the result? nada, zilch, nuttin'!! a quiet afternoon in the neighborhood...for once...
cheers, 
Rolly

From mrmevans at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 13:57:00 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:57:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: New Warning Sirens for Limerick Generating Station
Message-ID: <AANLkTinDeSZe9X1V_G6K1gMvUruB33ERM4Fg9FCEhQwD@mail.gmail.com>

This article is from Sept 2009 announcing plans to replace all the
warning sirens surrounding the generating station.

http://pottstownherald.com/limerick-power-plant-replacing-emergency-sirens/1781/

I just noticed the replacement of those near my home have been
completed. Old sirens are still in place. The article states new and
old sirens will be utilized simultaneously for a 4-month period.
Dismantling of the old sirens will take place beginning in 2011.

Maybe we could organize a MAC-PAC ride event with a scavenger hunt
theme to see, in a given time period, who can locate and photograph
the highest number of the 165 sirens located within the 10-mile radius
surrounding the plant. I'm sure each one has some sort of unique
identifier on it somewhere. Of course the final tally would need to
occur at an eating establishment.

Would that make local authorities nervous if a bunch of folks were
buzzing around photographing all the sirens?

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Fri Jun 25 14:10:24 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:10:24 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Yesterday's storm
In-Reply-To: <E0975535-B14F-4948-9947-0022AA169341@verizon.net>
References: <996174828-1277470372-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1220769898-@bda285.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<E0975535-B14F-4948-9947-0022AA169341@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <54322.12.181.211.35.1277475024.squirrel@12.181.211.35>

> On Jun 25, 2010, at 8:53 AM, saylorspond at comcast.net wrote:
>
>> Most of Drexel Hill lost power yesterday afternoon and it has yet to be
>> restored.  There are trees down for several blocks.  We had golf ball
>> sized hail traveling horizontally.
>
> unbelievable! we usually lose power up here every time the wind blows, but
> that hardly even happened. just a few drops of rain, and no wind to speak
> of here in Sellersville. watching the sharp line of intense storm activity
> move through on the radar, it looked like we just missed the eastern edge
> of it by a hair:  the result? nada, zilch, nuttin'!! a quiet afternoon in
> the neighborhood...for once...
> cheers,
> Rolly

We dodged the bullet in Hatfield too.  It got dark and the radar looked
scary with ominous dark purple and pink.   In the end all we had was a few
big drops of rain.  Not enough to get the ground wet.

I am sorry for those that had damage.

Ride Safe,

Joe


From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 16:53:50 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:53:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hutte's in Helvetia !
In-Reply-To: <D8359EA689804AF39F1622023EA7ECEE@dellfe483b726d>
References: <D8359EA689804AF39F1622023EA7ECEE@dellfe483b726d>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikmx66LUyN4a0CgCOQq45_qOZRumKFrZuj9ufoy@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Todd Trumbore <motorrader at verizon.net> wrote:
> June 18-20
> Festival of the Fives Rally, Seneca Rocks, WV
>
>
> It's no secret that West Virginia has some of the best riding in the mid-Atlantic region if not the whole east coast.? The Slash Five rally just gave me another excuse to spoil myself for three days.??.....snip...

Todd,
Thanks for the interesting and detailed ride report, that gives lots
of local color.  Helvetia alone does sound worth the trip, but I'm
also eager to try the roads of your 250 mile loop sometime soon.

It's great that Karl's R75/2 was reliable the whole time.  Was DucDude
on his Toaster for this rally?  And if he was in leathers, how did he
enjoy the heat wave?


-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From kdgregory at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 25 17:04:04 2010
From: kdgregory at yahoo.com (Keith D Gregory)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:04:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Directions Needed
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikkpw-sJlj2-RzukZLjlCOOK3NSc02jNK7bSQ2M@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50832.66843.qm@web56404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I've made a few additional changes, since US-202/I-76 is, shall we say, less than pleasant (although if you need to make up time and it isn't a Friday afternoon, perfectly valid):

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=555+Weaver+Rd+Morgantown+PA+19543&daddr=PA-401+E%2FConestoga+Rd+to:40.060337,-75.503883+to:Cassatt+Rd+to:Upper+Gulph+Rd+to:789+East+Lancaster+Avenue,+Villanova,+PA&geocode=FVJ9ZQIdv_x5-ylX4ydahGXGiTF9FaDdENmdYw%3BFTgCZAIdxEV9-w%3B%3BFT0YYwIdssGA-w%3BFWxEYwId_rKB-w%3BFX7kYgIdZU6C-ymhOReDWZXGiTGm34MAcXc2xg&hl=en&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=2&sz=13&via=1,2,3,4&sll=40.048906,-75.460796&sspn=0.093298,0.154324&ie=UTF8&ll=40.045883,-75.496845&spn=0.093302,0.154324&z=13

> >? The destination is Springfield Country Club on Sproul Rd? 
> >  These are 2 different trips.

Sproul Road, aka PA-320, pretty much parallels I-476 from Villanova down to Media and is in places an enjoyable ride (and I can't think of any places where it's decidedly unenjoyable). I would suggest following the same route, butturning right when PA-320 crosses US-30.

-kdg


From ducdude at verizon.net  Fri Jun 25 17:51:20 2010
From: ducdude at verizon.net (ducdude at verizon.net)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:51:20 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hutte's in Helvetia !
Message-ID: <1663856567.2853653.1277488280641.JavaMail.root@vms071.mailsrvcs.net>

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From ducdude at verizon.net  Fri Jun 25 18:26:03 2010
From: ducdude at verizon.net (ducdude at verizon.net)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 13:26:03 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hutte's in Helvetia !
Message-ID: <1636925352.2854493.1277490363835.JavaMail.root@vms071.mailsrvcs.net>

Hi Doug et al,
I did indeed ride my Polaris silver 1972 R75/5 SWB Toaster down to the Slash Five rally......I wore my Darians and a camel back and the heat was not an issue.. 
I left the same day Todd did but about 2 hours later.. I was to meet up with my riding partner in MD which necessitated a short stint on some slab to make up some time so we could get to the freshly mapped twistys The Map Meister had laid out for us. Sadly my store fresh new rear tire and tube felt the need air out after an impact with some road debris in MD which had me scrambling for a suitable spot in the shade to address this short coming. As fate would have it while I called another buddy of mine for the phone number of my riding partner it turned out he was only a klick away and in the car going to work...He stop by my road side tire center to lend a hand and keep me company...
The tube was patched but the local (500 meters away) Honda shop had a new tube so we put that in and I was on my way good as new...With a spair set of tubes and a nod to the gods for my good luck..
I met up with Gary also on his 72 R75/5 and we were off to find twisty and dirt roads galore.....We made it to the camp site at 2010hrs and then dinner...
On Sat we did a fun little 150 mile run,where the /5s were WFO for a good bit of the time going up the mts, to the Greenback Radio telescope and took the tour and Ooooed and Ahhhhed like proper geeks...Gary's company builds orbital weapons and spy satellites for Uncle Sam..Shit I should not have told you that....:-/
We made it back about the same time Todd did only we did not get wet and our meals were not as good..
Sunday we were on the road at 0830-0900 or so and took the tight twistys to Rt 81 where I took over just using the compass to keep us on a NE bearing on the farm, ranch, back and dirt roads. I made it home by 1630 or so with 780miles to drop into the kitty on the /5....Not a single issue with the 38 year old bike, except the flat which was easy to fix. After a good bath she will be good as old.. 
Ciao,
Duc

Jun 25, 2010 04:54:18 PM, douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Todd Trumbore wrote:
> June 18-20
> Festival of the Fives Rally, Seneca Rocks, WV
>
>
> It's no secret that West Virginia has some of the best riding in the mid-Atlantic region if not the whole east coast. The Slash Five rally just gave me another excuse to spoil myself for three days. .....snip...

Todd,
Thanks for the interesting and detailed ride report, that gives lots
of local color. Helvetia alone does sound worth the trip, but I'm
also eager to try the roads of your 250 mile loop sometime soon.

It's great that Karl's R75/2 was reliable the whole time. Was DucDude
on his Toaster for this rally? And if he was in leathers, how did he
enjoy the heat wave?


-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA
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From jweiss11 at comcast.net  Fri Jun 25 19:44:50 2010
From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:44:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: New Warning Sirens for Limerick Generating Station
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinDeSZe9X1V_G6K1gMvUruB33ERM4Fg9FCEhQwD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinDeSZe9X1V_G6K1gMvUruB33ERM4Fg9FCEhQwD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <870C788582CB4A948F8884B37D9A3EB5@jackde48df08c6>


Maybe we could organize a MAC-PAC ride event with a scavenger hunt
theme to see, in a given time period, who can locate and photograph
the highest number of the 165 sirens located within the 10-mile radius
surrounding the plant. I'm sure each one has some sort of unique
identifier on it somewhere. Of course the final tally would need to
occur at an eating establishment.

Would that make local authorities nervous if a bunch of folks were
buzzing around photographing all the sirens?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I took a picture of the outside of my bank a few months ago. The police were
waiting for me when I got home. Pretty funny in the end, but I think about
picture taking a little less casually now. 

Jack Weiss
Dangerous man with a camera and a R1200 GSA


From mrmevans at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 19:55:36 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:55:36 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Light Fixtures for Sale
Message-ID: <AANLkTil5LHDKRZZsJxEb2L4ohzSX9s-AA_DDTh-1qcwS@mail.gmail.com>

I have ten 2' x 4' relatively new fluorescent troffer lights to get
rid of. These are the type you often see in offices set amongst the
ceiling tile grids.

All in good working order (bulbs and ballasts) at time of removal this week.

New they sell for about $100 each. I'd take that for the lot if
someone is interested.

Can be picked up in Phoenixville, PA.

Ping me off list if you want some or all of them.

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From 321design at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 20:25:37 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:25:37 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: New Warning Sirens for Limerick Generating Station
In-Reply-To: <870C788582CB4A948F8884B37D9A3EB5@jackde48df08c6>
References: <AANLkTinDeSZe9X1V_G6K1gMvUruB33ERM4Fg9FCEhQwD@mail.gmail.com>
	<870C788582CB4A948F8884B37D9A3EB5@jackde48df08c6>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimiThoZyi9_BqXmD5dsqWNLwp9y8lwXQI_PQoGN@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Jack Weiss <jweiss11 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I took a picture of the outside of my bank a few months ago. The police were
> waiting for me when I got home. Pretty funny in the end, but I think about
> picture taking a little less casually now.


I took a picture of KGB headquarters in Moscow and a big guy with a
Kalashnikov (I think) comes up to me and tells me to "delete from
camera".

I did.

-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From ephoet at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 20:30:05 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:30:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: New Warning Sirens for Limerick Generating Station
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimiThoZyi9_BqXmD5dsqWNLwp9y8lwXQI_PQoGN@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinDeSZe9X1V_G6K1gMvUruB33ERM4Fg9FCEhQwD@mail.gmail.com> 
	<870C788582CB4A948F8884B37D9A3EB5@jackde48df08c6>
	<AANLkTimiThoZyi9_BqXmD5dsqWNLwp9y8lwXQI_PQoGN@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimK6sUYfHLGlEc_fSbxIdCrsZSBs2030jZFmjTG@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I took a picture of KGB headquarters in Moscow and a big guy with a
> Kalashnikov (I think) comes up to me and tells me to "delete from
> camera".
>
> I did.

I suppose one must pronounce "delete from camera" vis a hevi Russian awkscent!

Funny.  Now, at least.  Probably not in the moment....

Erik
_________________________________

From bmwdick at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 20:08:13 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:08:13 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDERS' DINNER!!! this group is going to the dogs...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinZsHYF7fsURr_DIT1QVmjOgsItjYjCS8x7IZuH@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinZsHYF7fsURr_DIT1QVmjOgsItjYjCS8x7IZuH@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikIia63oF55zQNNFPnRLrq2uVq1wZWlWxS_dOJT@mail.gmail.com>

Four Dogs? Reminds me of my undergrad years.
I'll be there. Jane is working, so she won't be attending.
Dick
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From bmwdick at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 21:16:16 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:16:16 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] GPS Features [was Directions Needed]
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikMj9HsrfJSq3_YYgKf9VJhXl-lswku4fLvqAdt@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikMj9HsrfJSq3_YYgKf9VJhXl-lswku4fLvqAdt@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Michael Evans <mrmevans at gmail.com> wrote:

> (SNIPPED)
>


> Another mode, "Travel by Boulder" is often also called "As The Dick
> Flies". On the advice of Dick Bregstein I have never used that mode.
>
>
Jane has forbidden me to travel in boulder mode again.
-- 
BMW-Dick
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I?m not sure
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From bmwdick at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 22:08:20 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:08:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT- PA Battle Lines
In-Reply-To: <3356B7A71D7342C5A237DD532270757C@Tekki>
References: <1681755880.9612361277312243119.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<3356B7A71D7342C5A237DD532270757C@Tekki>
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On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Rick Sorensen <rsorens at comcast.net> wrote:

> (SNIP)
>


> Take a look at this site for more details on reciprocity:
> http://handgunlaw.us/
> Pick YOUR state and see where you're legal.
>

SNIP

If you're crossing Illinois you have to unload your gun and lock it where
you cannot easily access it -- like in the trunk of your car, or in a saddle
bag....unless you are a sworn "peace officer" or a criminal who doesn't give
a crap about laws.

>
> Or the official PA State AG's site:
> http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/crime.aspx?id=184
>
>
>
> Rick
>
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From bmwdick at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 12:15:03 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:15:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Yesterday's storm
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikkQrswU0-nFPZk8WC45AXnsCLzpF_GbzHx6TBC@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikkQrswU0-nFPZk8WC45AXnsCLzpF_GbzHx6TBC@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinvPPFVtAyCTqfa7E4PBQ4Q78udrehCtU2CSGsR@mail.gmail.com>

We lost power from 3-8pm, and I heard a couple of trees were down in the
neighborhood and that some condos in the Marsh Creek area had their chimneys
blown off. I just got a pile of branches and poplar leaves and seed pods
covering my driveway. Today is pick-up sticks day.

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> wrote:

> The storm that went through yesterday took out 3 of my trees and threw
> a branch into my roof. No riding this weekend for me. Chop chop time.
> Power still out.
>
> At work in Morgantown, major wind and rain; 75MPH+ allegedly. I have
> to say I have never seen it rain so hard.
>
> --
> Rob Haut
> West Chester PA
> '05 Rockster
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From bmwdick at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 15:52:17 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:52:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Expert computer advise needed
Message-ID: <AANLkTimrZvYU-TbUCbqKJO4uPK9mDDxvAOm6Kh2v8jTK@mail.gmail.com>

Something strange happened to Jane's laptop yesterday.
It's a Compaq (HP) laptop.
When she turns it on, all the LEDS light up, the one for the hard drive
spins and flickers,the one indicating power lights,  but the screen remains
black.
I tried ctl/alt/del and messing with the various function keys, and once
last night I got it to boot. The screen came up normally and Jane worked on
the laptop for hours.
This morning the screen is black.
When I hit the tiny button on the top left of the keyboard that turns off
the screen when the laptop is closed, the screen will flash for a second and
show me what's there, but that puts the computer in standby mode.

Does anyone have an idea of what I can do to get this POS back on track?


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From kgbruce1 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 20:56:10 2010
From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:56:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDERS' DINNER!!! this group is going to the dogs...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinULuoZA0auBLIFt88aUatZSLRtHa0FUJLP4b5l@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinZsHYF7fsURr_DIT1QVmjOgsItjYjCS8x7IZuH@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Sir:
>


> Has Sanda Bullock or Lady Gaga
> responded yet?
>
>
> --
> Fondest regards,
> Jack
> ----------------------------


Yes, Gaga wants to know if you can get her into the Yankees locker room and
Sandra decided to stay home after she learned you recently judged a tattooed
pole dancer contest in Chicago.

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From kgbruce1 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 14:46:40 2010
From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:46:40 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] REMINDER...RIDERS' DINNER!!! for those of you still with
	power....
Message-ID: <AANLkTimq8xpAOrYA-p_UpCyQd7jLcxBL7nEsJG1yn60B@mail.gmail.com>

RIDERS' DINNER REMINDER!!!

Hear Ye!  Hear Ye!  The time is once again upon us to gather for the monthly
Riders' Dinner!  So, on Wednesday, June 30th (sliding right under the
proverbial wire) the Riders' Dinner will be held at the Four Dogs Tavern,
1300 Strasburg Road, West Chester, Pa 19382 (610) 692-4367.
http://www.thefourdogstavern.com/

The Four Dogs is well known for its beautiful location, extraordinary fare
and notable brew selection (FYWDB).
http://www.zagat.com/Verticals/Menu.aspx?VID=8&R=71848&HID=500004644

The area is surrounded by some excellent roads for pre or post dinner
riding.  The Four Dogs has been a beloved Chester County institution for a
long time and enjoys an outstanding reputation which, according to my lunch
there a week ago, is well deserved!  There was some question as to whether
or not they could accommodate our "separate checks" requirement so I
mentioned to the manager that I know Earle Bare, who lives close by.  The
mention of Earle's name removed all question as the manager said "Oh, well
in that case we DEFINITELY can't do separate checks!".  Deciding I should
try a different approach I said that I also know Charlene at which point the
manager said "Well in that case I guess we can try it."  Funny how that
worked...

The heat and humidity have been quite high lately so I reserved the air
conditioned loft which should fit our gathering nicely and prevent Rob Haut
from enduring another bad hair day. We'll gather at 6:30 p.m. but feel free
to arrive earlier and enjoy the surroundings.

You know the drill, if you can make it, please let me know and if you don't
know til the last minute just show up!  Its a great place and I lied about
us to get the reservation so if Riepe shows up, act like we just met him.

See you next Wednesday!

Ken Bruce
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From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 20:54:50 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:54:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Expert computer advise needed
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimrZvYU-TbUCbqKJO4uPK9mDDxvAOm6Kh2v8jTK@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimrZvYU-TbUCbqKJO4uPK9mDDxvAOm6Kh2v8jTK@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimZPDAnlrajbyCa8GRWV1Vj_LnjD1O5yuurWa6K@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Dick <bmwdick at gmail.com> wrote:
> Something strange happened to Jane's laptop yesterday.
> It's a Compaq (HP) laptop.
<SNIP>
> Does anyone have an idea of what I can do to get this POS back on track?

I wouldn't turn your computer back on again....just in case the HD is
on its way out.

I would do the following...but others may offer you suggestions as well.

Pull out the HD and stick it into an external enclosure.  Now back up
your hard drive onto some other computer, etc.
Once that is accomplished, then start poking around and see if the HD
is en route to failure or other issues.

If the HD as a slave(sitting in the external enclosure) seems to
backup fine, and does other miscellaneous tests fine, I'd now go check
the monitor and video card to see if they were the culprits..

Do you have an external monitor like a flat screen you could plug your
computer into to test and see if the monitor is failing? OR if the
video card is on its way out?

No matter what...make sure the first thing you do is backup your
data...you may not have many more opportunities for the HD to power
back up.

And I won't begin to tell you how to crack open a hard drive, and
check and see if its the circuit board or if its a mechanical
failure...Doug Raymond can walk you through that;)


-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 21:23:24 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:23:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: New Warning Sirens for Limerick Generating Station
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinDeSZe9X1V_G6K1gMvUruB33ERM4Fg9FCEhQwD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinDeSZe9X1V_G6K1gMvUruB33ERM4Fg9FCEhQwD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikMN9AghfehKZhQKvtPmOp6b2iiV6AADWY43uGj@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/25/10, Michael Evans <mrmevans at gmail.com> wrote:
> This article is from Sept 2009 announcing plans to replace all the
>  warning sirens surrounding the generating station.
>
>  http://pottstownherald.com/limerick-power-plant-replacing-emergency-sirens/1781/
>
>  I just noticed the replacement of those near my home have been
>  completed.

Ditto close to me.

>  Maybe we could organize a MAC-PAC ride event with a scavenger hunt
>  theme to see, in a given time period, who can locate and photograph
>  the highest number of the 165 sirens located within the 10-mile radius
>  surrounding the plant. I'm sure each one has some sort of unique
>  identifier on it somewhere. Of course the final tally would need to
>  occur at an eating establishment.

I will see if I can find out if there is some central listing of
locations that is available to the public.

>  Would that make local authorities nervous if a bunch of folks were
>  buzzing around photographing all the sirens?

Bob Higdon either got arrested or real close to it for taking pictures
of a county courthouse.  He did a number of runs to photograph every
county court house in the Lower 48.  He might have gotten Alaska too.
I doubt HI since the distance is too far to paddle on  one take of
gas, and pulling a tanker would have been counter productive I think.

So, it is definitely a high probable.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 21:26:56 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:26:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Yesterday's storm
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinvPPFVtAyCTqfa7E4PBQ4Q78udrehCtU2CSGsR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikkQrswU0-nFPZk8WC45AXnsCLzpF_GbzHx6TBC@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinvPPFVtAyCTqfa7E4PBQ4Q78udrehCtU2CSGsR@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinayiL8ghKSpqtkjSdF2jtQ0ArkPFpRJObP3PV1@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/25/10, Dick <bmwdick at gmail.com> wrote:
> We lost power from 3-8pm, and I heard a couple of trees were down in the
>  neighborhood and that some condos in the Marsh Creek area had their chimneys
>  blown off. I just got a pile of branches and poplar leaves and seed pods
>  covering my driveway. Today is pick-up sticks day.

I lost power for about 24 hours.  It came back about 15 minutes before
it was predicted to by PECO.  Still no Internet.  This is coming from
the Library.

I ran up Rt 100 from Exton to home last night.  It was REAL DARK and
most of the traffic lights were out.  Motels were real dark too.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 21:30:43 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:30:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Expert computer advise needed
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimZPDAnlrajbyCa8GRWV1Vj_LnjD1O5yuurWa6K@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimrZvYU-TbUCbqKJO4uPK9mDDxvAOm6Kh2v8jTK@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimZPDAnlrajbyCa8GRWV1Vj_LnjD1O5yuurWa6K@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilEiRYIUwXuKcecx_oAORtCsPrVZbi1Y8bV8diq@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/25/10, edde m <motoedde2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Dick <bmwdick at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > Something strange happened to Jane's laptop yesterday.
>  > It's a Compaq (HP) laptop.

> I wouldn't turn your computer back on again....just in case the HD is
>  on its way out.

>  Do you have an external monitor like a flat screen you could plug your
>  computer into to test and see if the monitor is failing? OR if the
>  video card is on its way out?

Since the little switch causes a flicker I suspect something to do
with it.  An External monitor would help a bunch in checking.

Frequently if you shine a light at the screen you can see what the
LCDs are doing and toggle to the external monitor or both.

If the LCDs are doing their thing it is the back light.

>From the description, I don't think it is the HD.

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From tbyrum at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 21:57:57 2010
From: tbyrum at gmail.com (Tom Byrum)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:57:57 -0500
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: New Warning Sirens for Limerick Generating Station
Message-ID: <AANLkTinKjrAjHNQvNcj_dV087O0QymDXr3BUrNf_nuEv@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:40 PM,  <mac-pac-l-request at jtan.com> wrote:
>
> I took a picture of the outside of my bank a few months ago. The police were
> waiting for me when I got home. Pretty funny in the end, but I think about
> picture taking a little less casually now.
>
> Jack Weiss
> Dangerous man with a camera and a R1200 GSA

How long will it be until you are required to have a license for
telephoto camera lenses or high powered optical equipment? After all,
such expensive equipment can be used to spy on people and secure
facilities. Sure, there are artistic and sporting purposes, and
hunting, but those people won't mind having to get a license for their
optics -- after all, they have nothing to hide, right?

Cheers,
Tom B

From ladyvol at fastmail.fm  Fri Jun 25 22:13:25 2010
From: ladyvol at fastmail.fm (Jill McCarley)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:13:25 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
Message-ID: <1277504005.25054.1381945135@webmail.messagingengine.com>

Pac,

I have a dilemma.  I was yesterday diagnosed with mono, which is in and
of itself, very miserable.  The kicker is that my doctor originally
forbid me from riding a motorcycle for 6 weeks due to the spleen
enlargement and potential rupture.  After much wheedling and pleading on
my part about the upcoming 2 week trip up to the RA rally in 4 weeks, he
agreed to examine me and do an ultrasound the week prior and see if he'd
clear me for riding.

Bottom line: I am going on this trip, even if I have to don crampons and
climb Jack Riepe's body to get out of my driveway.  Any ideas as to some
armor that might provide some protection to the area if my doctor
doesn't give me the go-ahead?  I would like to prepare for the worst
while I have time.

trapped in invalid hell,

Jill 
---------------------------- 
'90 R100GS  
'06 K1200 R  "The Screaming Meanie"

Jill McCarley, MD
Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
Member, Ketchup Advisory Board
"Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness."


From reopropf at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 22:39:09 2010
From: reopropf at gmail.com (Peter Frechie)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:39:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
In-Reply-To: <1277504005.25054.1381945135@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <1277504005.25054.1381945135@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiktqIGnPI1yvdIO6maT-8BP9-RDUXaoKVb-K5eJ@mail.gmail.com>

Be like the rest of the population:  ignore doctor and his
reccommendations until it becomes a problem.

You'll be fine, most likely.

Peter

On Friday, June 25, 2010, Jill McCarley <ladyvol at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> Pac,
>
> I have a dilemma. ?I was yesterday diagnosed with mono, which is in and
> of itself, very miserable. ?The kicker is that my doctor originally
> forbid me from riding a motorcycle for 6 weeks due to the spleen
> enlargement and potential rupture. ?After much wheedling and pleading on
> my part about the upcoming 2 week trip up to the RA rally in 4 weeks, he
> agreed to examine me and do an ultrasound the week prior and see if he'd
> clear me for riding.
>
> Bottom line: I am going on this trip, even if I have to don crampons and
> climb Jack Riepe's body to get out of my driveway. ?Any ideas as to some
> armor that might provide some protection to the area if my doctor
> doesn't give me the go-ahead? ?I would like to prepare for the worst
> while I have time.
>
> trapped in invalid hell,
>
> Jill
> ----------------------------
> '90 R100GS
> '06 K1200 R ?"The Screaming Meanie"
>
> Jill McCarley, MD
> Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
> Member, Ketchup Advisory Board
> "Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness."
>
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From jasiii at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 25 22:41:32 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:41:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
In-Reply-To: <1277504005.25054.1381945135@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <C84AA8DC.46DC%jasiii@earthlink.net>

> Bottom line: I am going on this trip, even if I have to don crampons and
> climb Jack Riepe's body to get out of my driveway.  Any ideas as to some
> armor that might provide some protection to the area if my doctor
> doesn't give me the go-ahead?  I would like to prepare for the worst
> while I have time.
> 
> trapped in invalid hell,
> 
> Jill 

That Sucks.. But good old Google looking for spleen protection

http://www.acor.org/ped-onc/survivors/sportsprot.html

Survivor Issues: Kidney Protection - Sports Pads
Survivors of Wilm's tumor usually have only one kidney, so protection of
this remaining organ is important. Nancy Keene (et. al.) state in Childhood
Cancer Survivors <http://childhoodcancerguides.org/survivors.html> : "For
sports like soccer or baseball, an eight-inch-wide padded belt can be worn
to provide extra protection for the remaining kidney."

Note: these same sports-protectors can also protect the mediport area during
treatment. They can also help protect an enlarged spleen.

So a good old fashion kidney belt looks like it would help.

Hope this helps

Jim 



From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 23:06:13 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:06:13 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: New Warning Sirens for Limerick Generating Station
In-Reply-To: <870C788582CB4A948F8884B37D9A3EB5@jackde48df08c6>
References: <AANLkTinDeSZe9X1V_G6K1gMvUruB33ERM4Fg9FCEhQwD@mail.gmail.com>
	<870C788582CB4A948F8884B37D9A3EB5@jackde48df08c6>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinOmLqtlHhChr1Ap8idNm0d_YJEat4KdOvL0fmq@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Jack Weiss <jweiss11 at comcast.net> wrote:
<SNIP>
> Would that make local authorities nervous if a bunch of folks were
> buzzing around photographing all the sirens?
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> I took a picture of the outside of my bank a few months ago. The police were
> waiting for me when I got home. Pretty funny in the end, but I think about
> picture taking a little less casually now.

These are the sorts of  problems you encounter in low crime....higher
income neighborhoods;)





-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 25 22:55:22 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:55:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT NJ Motor Sports this weekend
Message-ID: <C84AAC1A.46DC%jasiii@earthlink.net>

Anybody else going the NJMP this weekend ??

Anita and I will be leaving around noon tomorrow just for the one day.

Both Bikes and Cars are running..

Just asking 

Jim (getting a day off tomorrow)
-- 
Ride Safe
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'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881



From wayne at 2zars.com  Sat Jun 26 00:21:10 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:21:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: New Warning Sirens for Limerick Generating Station
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikMN9AghfehKZhQKvtPmOp6b2iiV6AADWY43uGj@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinDeSZe9X1V_G6K1gMvUruB33ERM4Fg9FCEhQwD@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikMN9AghfehKZhQKvtPmOp6b2iiV6AADWY43uGj@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9fha261q03d4aio083fuoduifpadu2usdv@4ax.com>

>
>Bob Higdon either got arrested or real close to it for taking pictures
>of a county courthouse.  He did a number of runs to photograph every
>county court house in the Lower 48.  He might have gotten Alaska too.
>I doubt HI since the distance is too far to paddle on  one take of
>gas, and pulling a tanker would have been counter productive I think.
>
>So, it is definitely a high probable.

There have been reports of people in the UK being harassed by the
police for taking photographs of public institutions.

http://carlosmiller.com/2010/05/11/architectural-photographer-harassed-for-second-time-in-six-months-in-uk/


One of my fellow phothbloggers from Ambler was recently 'spoken to' by
a train conductor.


"Did you know you are not allowed to photograph SEPTA trains without
permission?"

"Well, sir, no I did not know."

"Yep, ever since 9-11 you need to have permission."

She checked the Septa website. Pure bull$hit.


http://www.septa.org/policy/film.html


"SEPTA welcomes photographers and artists. In return, we simply
request they use common sense and courtesy to others in pursuit of
their pictures."

At her suggestion, I printed a copy of that webpage and put it in my
camera bag.  

It's not just SEPTA

http://www.nycphotorights.com/2010/06/mta-employees-continue-to-harass-photographers/


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From jweiss11 at comcast.net  Sat Jun 26 00:47:24 2010
From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:47:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: New Warning Sirens for Limerick Generating Station
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinOmLqtlHhChr1Ap8idNm0d_YJEat4KdOvL0fmq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinDeSZe9X1V_G6K1gMvUruB33ERM4Fg9FCEhQwD@mail.gmail.com><870C788582CB4A948F8884B37D9A3EB5@jackde48df08c6>
	<AANLkTinOmLqtlHhChr1Ap8idNm0d_YJEat4KdOvL0fmq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3DEAC3E97134414CBBA080C2EC30E101@jackde48df08c6>

:
<SNIP>
> Would that make local authorities nervous if a bunch of folks were
> buzzing around photographing all the sirens?
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> I took a picture of the outside of my bank a few months ago. The police
were
> waiting for me when I got home. Pretty funny in the end, but I think about
> picture taking a little less casually now.

These are the sorts of  problems you encounter in low crime....higher
income neighborhoods;)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

No Worries, moving to the City next month. 

Your new neighbor, Jack Weiss


From jweiss11 at comcast.net  Sat Jun 26 00:51:54 2010
From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:51:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] FW: OT: New Warning Sirens for Limerick Generating Station
Message-ID: <1B1086042CCD487DAA7789B8F4367876@jackde48df08c6>


>...took a picture of the outside of my bank a few months ago. The police
were waiting for me when I got home.

And what did they have to say? And what was your reaction?

Very curious as to their point and attitude

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

To me it was funny. To the cops, they were just doing their job. There had
been a rash of bank robberies in the Jenkintown/ Willow Grove area and
apparently a bank employee who didn't know me had seen me take the picture
and wrote down my license plate. 

They let me enter my driveway and when I got off the bike they were at the
top of the drive becoming me to come for a conversation. 

Cop- Where are you coming from? 
Me- Post office and Bank, why?
Cop- You take a picture of the bank?
Me- Yup, wanna see it?
Cop- No, Why the picture?
Me- Needed it for a work project (Don't ask)
Cop- Have a nice day sir. 

Ya know, I'm 51 years old and the "sir" thing just bugs me. Fuckin Cops :-) 

Jack Weiss
Looking in the mirror and still seeing the 20 year old. Delusions are
comforting. 






From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Sat Jun 26 00:54:31 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 00:54:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
In-Reply-To: <147181389.10646711277513465610.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <70801639.10647391277513671045.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>


>I have a dilemma. I was yesterday diagnosed with mono, which is in and 
>of itself, very miserable. The kicker is that my doctor originally 
>forbid me from riding a motorcycle for 6 weeks due to the spleen 
>enlargement and potential rupture. After much wheedling and pleading on 
>my part about the upcoming 2 week trip up to the RA rally in 4 weeks, he 
>agreed to examine me and do an ultrasound the week prior and see if he'd 
>clear me for riding. 

The problem with the spleen is that it is a true internal organ. It is protected mostly by the rib cage. But in heavy contact the spleen bumps into all those internal organs and ribs and that is when it can rupture. Problem is that there really isn't anything that you can put on to protect the spleen. Maybe a flak jacket, but that could seriously hamper on riding mobility. Truth is IF you are good and follow the docs recommendations now, it shouldn't be a huge issue in 5 weeks. Good luck! 

John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Sat Jun 26 00:55:55 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 00:55:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT NJ Motor Sports this weekend
In-Reply-To: <C84AAC1A.46DC%jasiii@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <827499161.10647941277513755810.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>


>Anybody else going the NJMP this weekend ?? 
> 
>Anita and I will be leaving around noon tomorrow just for the one day. 
> 
>Both Bikes and Cars are running.. 

My wife picked a hell of a weekend to go away and leave me with the girls. Sorry I can not go, have fun! 

John Clauss 
K1100RS 
R75/6 
In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno 

From quinntex2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 26 01:01:50 2010
From: quinntex2000 at yahoo.com (Quinn Tex)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:01:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiktqIGnPI1yvdIO6maT-8BP9-RDUXaoKVb-K5eJ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <554910.47907.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> > I have a dilemma. ?I was yesterday diagnosed with
> >
> > Jill
> > ----------------------------
> > '90 R100GS
> > '06 K1200 R ?"The Screaming Meanie"
> >
> > Jill McCarley, MD

An MD not doing as told by another MD......


Georgina, who under MD orders to "take it easy" (rotten freakin tennis elbow) has been off the MC for almost 2 weeks now!


      

From rollybrown at verizon.net  Sat Jun 26 02:11:18 2010
From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:11:18 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
In-Reply-To: <554910.47907.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <554910.47907.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <74AB5301-3C19-4D49-B6CD-49E93EFB6D46@verizon.net>

> Georgina, who under MD orders to "take it easy" (rotten freakin tennis elbow) has been off the MC for almost 2 weeks now!

jeez, you guys are starting to make me feel like one of the gang again...as much as i wish you all well, it's somehow comforting to know that i'm not the only one who's grounded.
Still, you can mostly congratulate yourself that you'll be riding sooner than me...

cheers,
Rol, who's only ridden twice since last August...and is only hoping he'll be fit to ride by the end of this August.

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 02:39:02 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:39:02 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
In-Reply-To: <1277504005.25054.1381945135@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <1277504005.25054.1381945135@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimE3aQZvTXhJh6qoTTrQZcDhI1aGpe4NwX5sdk0@mail.gmail.com>

At the risk of being the voice of reason, trailer the bike up there and ride
around carefully once you arrive. Save yourself 98% of the fatigue. The real
fun is drinking and getting laid at the event anyway.

On Jun 25, 2010 6:13 PM, "Jill McCarley" <ladyvol at fastmail.fm> wrote:

Pac,

I have a dilemma.  I was yesterday diagnosed with mono, which is in and
of itself, very miserable.  The kicker is that my doctor originally
forbid me from riding a motorcycle for 6 weeks due to the spleen
enlargement and potential rupture.  After much wheedling and pleading on
my part about the upcoming 2 week trip up to the RA rally in 4 weeks, he
agreed to examine me and do an ultrasound the week prior and see if he'd
clear me for riding.

Bottom line: I am going on this trip, even if I have to don crampons and
climb Jack Riepe's body to get out of my driveway.  Any ideas as to some
armor that might provide some protection to the area if my doctor
doesn't give me the go-ahead?  I would like to prepare for the worst
while I have time.

trapped in invalid hell,

Jill
----------------------------
'90 R100GS
'06 K1200 R  "The Screaming Meanie"

Jill McCarley, MD
Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
Member, Ketchup Advisory Board
"Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness."

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From honeybrk at dejazzd.com  Sat Jun 26 02:50:20 2010
From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:50:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Directions Needed
References: <50832.66843.qm@web56404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003901cb14da$5141bd80$4101a8c0@FastHP>

<<I've made a few additional changes, since US-202/I-76 is, shall we say, 
less than pleasant (although if you need to <<make up time and it isn't a 
Friday afternoon, perfectly valid):

Keith's directions having me go via 401 to Swedesford Rd Upper Gulf etc 
seemed a good way to get to Villanova Rt 30.  It would have been good IF 
there hadn't been a storm the night before.  I lost count of the trees down 
on 401 particularly west of 100.  Then east of 100 it was closed but the GPS 
detour button directed me around  the closed area although the traffic was 
pretty bad.  After that the main problem was traffic lights not working 
because of the power outages.  I did make it though and only about 20 
minutes longer than Google said.  Coming home I went the GPS way -> Blue 
Route to Turnpike.  It took half as long as going. I decided that the 
turnpike was the safest way since there was less chance to meet up with any 
of the 3 "D's" (Dumbguys, drunks and deer) I noticed the one service plaza 
was closed because of no power.

The reason I wanted to ride was that it was the first event of my 50th high 
school reunion.  I wanted to surprise everyone since I was not the type to 
ride motorcycles in school. Several were surprised. There was a good turnout 
but most everyone looked so old.  I had to ask names to identify them.  We 
had the casual get together at teh MIXX which is right near where the  Blue 
Route crosses Rt 30.  Food was good and plenty of remembering old times. We 
might want to try that for the monthly rider's dinner sometime.

Marge



From ladyvol at fastmail.fm  Sat Jun 26 12:05:13 2010
From: ladyvol at fastmail.fm (Jill McCarley)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:05:13 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimE3aQZvTXhJh6qoTTrQZcDhI1aGpe4NwX5sdk0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1277504005.25054.1381945135@webmail.messagingengine.com>
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:39 -0400, "Jack Riepe" <jack.riepe at gmail.com>
wrote:
> At the risk of being the voice of reason, trailer the bike up there and
> ride
> around carefully once you arrive. Save yourself 98% of the fatigue. The
> real
> fun is drinking and getting laid at the event anyway.
> 

Honestly, this makes a great deal of sense.  I hadn't considered it,
although we have the technology.  As shamed as I'd be, that might be the
best option.  Hmmm..

Jack as the Voice of Reason?  I must be tripping...

:)

Jill
---------------------------- 
'90 R100GS  
'06 K1200 R  "The Screaming Meanie"

Jill McCarley, MD
Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
Member, Ketchup Advisory Board
"Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness."


From ladyvol at fastmail.fm  Sat Jun 26 12:10:16 2010
From: ladyvol at fastmail.fm (Jill McCarley)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:10:16 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
In-Reply-To: <554910.47907.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <554910.47907.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:01 -0700, "Quinn Tex" <quinntex2000 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
> > 
> > > Jill McCarley, MD
> 
> An MD not doing as told by another MD......
> 
> 

I'd be rolling on the ground laughing if I weren't worried about my
stupid spleen.  Doctors have historically made godawful patients.  We
are the WORST.  You can ask any of us....when we see another physician
on our list of patients to be seen for the day, we all go "aw, shit!". 
It's universal.




> Georgina, who under MD orders to "take it easy" (rotten freakin tennis
> elbow) has been off the MC for almost 2 weeks now!


Oh, how highly annoying!  I hope the inflammation goes down soon so you
can continue to enjoy some of the riding season!
---------------------------- 
'90 R100GS  
'06 K1200 R  "The Screaming Meanie"

Jill McCarley, MD
Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
Member, Ketchup Advisory Board
"Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness."


From ladyvol at fastmail.fm  Sat Jun 26 12:12:40 2010
From: ladyvol at fastmail.fm (Jill McCarley)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:12:40 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
In-Reply-To: <70801639.10647391277513671045.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <70801639.10647391277513671045.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 00:54 +0000, "johnclauss%40comcast.net (John
Clauss)" <JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> The problem with the spleen is that it is a true internal organ. It is
> protected mostly by the rib cage. But in heavy contact the spleen bumps
> into all those internal organs and ribs and that is when it can rupture.
> Problem is that there really isn't anything that you can put on to
> protect the spleen. Maybe a flak jacket, but that could seriously hamper
> on riding mobility. Truth is IF you are good and follow the docs
> recommendations now, it shouldn't be a huge issue in 5 weeks. Good luck! 
> 

I know about all of that, and I was wondering about some of the chest
protectors.  I looked at some of the dirt bike stuff prior to posting,
but none of it looked really useful for my purpose.

It will really come down to the ultrasound the week before.  I may end
up taking Riepe's surprisingly insightful suggestion to (gulp) trailer
much of the way.

Jill 
---------------------------- 
'90 R100GS  
'06 K1200 R  "The Screaming Meanie"

Jill McCarley, MD
Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
Member, Ketchup Advisory Board
"Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness."


From kdgregory at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 26 12:24:39 2010
From: kdgregory at yahoo.com (Keith D Gregory)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 05:24:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <37C3CA7A92D5442C94245A58185D7E20@dellfe483b726d>
Message-ID: <163891.91367.qm@web56404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 6/24/10, Todd Trumbore <motorrader at verizon.net> wrote:

> Funny story.? About 4 years ago on a 4th of July

Not so funny story: about 15 years ago in the middle of July, a friend and I were caught in a traffic jam going through Scranton (yeah, yeah, what else is new). We work our way to the front of the line, to find three trucks that are "merging." The quotes are there because the road was absolutely empty in front of them, yet they were inching along. I don't know if they were pissed off at having been in line, or the two in the lead simply couldn't agree on who got to go first. They were positioned with 1 in the right lane, and 2 in the left.

Since they're edging toward the middle of the road, there's plenty of room on the left, so my friend hits the gas and I follow. As he passes the first truck, the driver grabs the horn, and the second driver swerves to the left. I am at this point about equal with the back wheels of the his trailer.

I grab the brakes as hard as I can, and stare straight ahead at the rapidly closing gap. The anti-lock brakes clicks away (yay BMW), and I come to a stop with, literally less than a foot of clearance between me and the Jersey barrier on the left, and me and the side of the trailer on the right. Of course, by trying to kill me, this driver let the driver in the right lane get ahead, so now there was no further need to block traffic. After the shakes stopped, I caught up with my friend.

That was the day that I realized I should never carry a gun. And it reinforced my dislike of Pennsylvania :-)

-kdg


From kdgregory at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 26 12:36:26 2010
From: kdgregory at yahoo.com (Keith D Gregory)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 05:36:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil2EOL1vhf0gPH-Ml5hTX6S9GHdVtFRtQXBPOGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <64773.27519.qm@web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 6/23/10, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:

> So, I have been told by a PA SP to "split lanes".

I once got a ticket on the HOV lane into Boston. I tried to explain to the trooper that it was permitted (they since put up signs), but no joy. He then said "I ride a motorcycle, and what you should be doing is riding in the breakdown lane of the main roadway" (it's been a long time, but that's a pretty close quote).

Punchline: I of course contested the ticket, the AMA was nice enough to send me a copy of the relevant federal law (which I subsequently kept in my tankbag), and after an amusing couple of hours in the waiting room (featuring two men covered with feathers and a young woman who barricaded herself in the phone booth and then screamed "you aren't my father" when the bailiff tried to get her out), I stood before the magistrate. I presented my case, she looked at the trooper standing to her side, and he nodded. She dismissed the case, and I said something to the effect that it should never have happened. Her response was "we have specially trained officers here to review such cases" ... to which I replied "it would be nice if you had them on the road."

-kdg


From kdgregory at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 26 12:38:08 2010
From: kdgregory at yahoo.com (Keith D Gregory)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 05:38:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilUSyDxOSCIT52ITPo0R77Dhdc6y6MpCIOczzoT@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <304847.29899.qm@web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 6/23/10, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:

> I do not believe in lane-splitting.

Spoken like someone with a water-cooled bike :-)

-kdg


From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 12:44:23 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:44:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <304847.29899.qm@web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTilUSyDxOSCIT52ITPo0R77Dhdc6y6MpCIOczzoT@mail.gmail.com>
	<304847.29899.qm@web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilnfuAuybkVvIaoUiC4M8yqMPWtK9tQGGqAzsGm@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Keith:

You bet! I prefer a BMW with a proper cooling system.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From kdgregory at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 26 12:43:17 2010
From: kdgregory at yahoo.com (Keith D Gregory)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 05:43:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: New Warning Sirens for Limerick Generating Station
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinDeSZe9X1V_G6K1gMvUruB33ERM4Fg9FCEhQwD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86847.59944.qm@web56406.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 6/25/10, Michael Evans <mrmevans at gmail.com> wrote:
> This article is from Sept 2009

I saw the topic line, and thought it was yet another World Cup joke.

(for those who haven't seen any of the WC games: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuvuzela)

-kdg


From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 12:55:33 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:55:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
In-Reply-To: <1277554360.13120.1382001809@webmail.messagingengine.com>
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	<1277554360.13120.1382001809@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilDe_4bqr6MdB3kTyskVO6BfTCW9PhUydFgAy-Z@mail.gmail.com>

Jill:

Look at the situation from a sane perspective. You have a swollen
organ. (So do I, but I use it to my advantage.) Right now, you are
thinking about the catastrophic bump or jarring that could cause you
difficulty. What you should be think about ate the two million little
bumps and the road vibration that could have you feeling really
shitty, or bent over with fatigue, while yo are trying to have a good
time at an event you have been looking foreward to for weeks.

So you trailer the damn bike, driving along behind Howard, who will be
sweating his chestnuts off, bouncing over every imperfection in the
road, wearing a hole in his spleen. Now, you get still to ride through
some very nice territory on the far end. And if that makes you feel
shitty, you won't have to contemplate a 12,000 mile ride home in
agony.

No one in this group will think twice about it. As far as I know, they
never gave DucDude or Mike Evans any shit when I towed them around on
my trailer ? when each of their non-BMW bikes had broken down, and
wouldn't run, nor start, nor turn over, nor even sputter, despite the
fact that each of these guys is a certified shade-tree mechanic, with
a lot of tools, and experience with bikes that don't run.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 13:12:26 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:12:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilnfuAuybkVvIaoUiC4M8yqMPWtK9tQGGqAzsGm@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilUSyDxOSCIT52ITPo0R77Dhdc6y6MpCIOczzoT@mail.gmail.com>
	<304847.29899.qm@web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Keith:
>
> You bet! I prefer a BMW with a proper cooling system.
>

The sensuality of exposed jugs, the fine unique tradition of the
horizontally opposed cylinders, the horsepower boost into the 90-110
range (higher is not better for me), all led me to the oilhead BMW
motorcycles.  I may have to cruise the breakdown lane once a year in
hot traffic, but at least I have never had my thighs scalded by the
K-fan at a traffic light.  The K-engine is wonderfully reliable but
has the personality of, well, a brick.  A nice brick, mind you, I mean
no disrespect.

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From tpcutter at aol.com  Sat Jun 26 13:23:50 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:23:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT NJ Motor Sports this weekend
In-Reply-To: <C84AAC1A.46DC%jasiii@earthlink.net>
References: <C84AAC1A.46DC%jasiii@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8CCE349F273EE8F-23B4-975D@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com>


<<Anybody else going the NJMP this weekend ??Anita and I will be 
leaving around noon tomorrow just for the one day.Both Bikes and Cars 
are running..Just asking Jim (getting a day off tomorrow)>>

I'll be there on Monday for a track day with Absolute cycle. I'll be 
spectating from atop my GSXR. You could too. All you need is some tape 
for your lights and $125 for the track day.

www.shopabsolutecp.com


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??


From tpcutter at aol.com  Sat Jun 26 13:39:18 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:39:18 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
In-Reply-To: <70801639.10647391277513671045.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8CCE34C1C42D58F-23B4-98B8@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com>


<<>I have a dilemma. I was yesterday diagnosed with mono, which is in 
and >of itself, very miserable. The kicker is that my doctor originally 
 >forbid me from riding a motorcycle for 6 weeks due to the spleen 
 >enlargement and potential rupture. After much wheedling and pleading 
on >my part about the upcoming 2 week trip up to the RA rally in 4 
weeks, he >agreed to examine me and do an ultrasound the week prior and 
see if he'd >clear me for riding. >>

Jill-

Tell 'em to just take the frigging spleen out! I had mine removed in 
1979 after a motorcycle accident, and never missed it at all. I also 
shaved off 3 pounds of extra weight that was slowing me down. The 
spleen is a vestigial organ that is primarily functional during 
gestation. Don't need it. Toss it! You'll be back on your feet in a few 
days.

Organs, schmorgans! I've had a half-dozen organs removed, just makes me 
faster and meaner.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 15:12:50 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 11:12:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lane Splitting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilAe5etFpH9y6sFh5P5B0ulrKOgepZ8e1WeCj3O@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Keith:
>>
>> You bet! I prefer a BMW with a proper cooling system.
>>
>
> The sensuality of exposed jugs, the fine unique tradition of the
> horizontally opposed cylinders, the horsepower boost into the 90-110
> range (higher is not better for me), all led me to the oilhead BMW
> motorcycles. ?I may have to cruise the breakdown lane once a year in
> hot traffic, but at least I have never had my thighs scalded by the
> K-fan at a traffic light. ?The K-engine is wonderfully reliable but
> has the personality of, well, a brick. ?A nice brick, mind you, I mean
> no disrespect.

Are you accusing the K of being as exciting as a flat chested woman
with tote bags? ;)


-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Sat Jun 26 15:40:28 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 11:40:28 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
In-Reply-To: <1277504005.25054.1381945135@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <1277504005.25054.1381945135@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <4C261F6C.2060603@ptd.net>

Jill McCarley wrote:
> Pac,
>
>
> Bottom line: I am going on this trip, even if I have to don crampons and
> climb Jack Riepe's body to get out of my driveway.  Any ideas as to some
> armor that might provide some protection to the area if my doctor
> doesn't give me the go-ahead?  I would like to prepare for the worst
> while I have time.
>
>   


Are you planning on having a ruptured spleen and then a resulting bike 
crash?  II certainly hope not, but you could always do a pressure 
suit...mainly for offroad work, but I see no reason why you cant wear 
one for street work in case you hit the ground.......

http://www.xsportsprotective.com/sixsixone-vapor-pressure-suit.html?gclid=CKTN4O6KvqICFYp95QodRGol5Q

Chris Jaccarino

From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net  Sat Jun 26 16:02:19 2010
From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:02:19 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bumper Sticker for Cutter
Message-ID: <07C63AAEFA7D4A8E866A4BB814FFFFF2@home.robinson.org>

Saw this on the back of a pickup truck today.

"Road Racing - Cause sports like Baseball, Soccer, Basketball, Football, and 
Golf only require 1 ball"

Jim Robinson
West Chester PA


From Ducdude at verizon.net  Sat Jun 26 16:03:17 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:03:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
References: <70801639.10647391277513671045.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<1277554360.13120.1382001809@webmail.messagingengine.com>
	<AANLkTilDe_4bqr6MdB3kTyskVO6BfTCW9PhUydFgAy-Z@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0ED9A2912C6541FEAD47CCB68601B04B@heilveil5e3fdd>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack Riepe" <jack.riepe at gmail.com>
No one in this group will think twice about it. As far as I know, they
never gave DucDude or Mike Evans any shit when I towed them around on
my trailer ? when each of their non-BMW bikes had broken down, and
wouldn't run, nor start, nor turn over, nor even sputter, despite the
fact that each of these guys is a certified shade-tree mechanic, with
a lot of tools, and experience with bikes that don't run.

Fondest regards,
Jack
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Riep,

Now hold on just one damn minute there Tubby......!!!

We often give you a wide berth with regard to the facts, (actually we give 
you two full berths and smear the walls with KY just for good measure)!

But I just had to chime in on this one...As you knew I would....

First EVERYONE  gave me shit when the 748 limped up your drive way with the 
temp in the red and a bad hall effect sensor...
The shit storm continued while I worked on the bike in your garage with the 
bike plugged into your battery charger...
The shit really hit the fan when we had to load the Ducati up onto your 
trailer... wrong point one

Second the 748 did indeed run all the way up to 3k rpm and then it died 
which was good for 23.5489 mph in 6th gear
So the bike ran as I got it to your house wrong point two

The bike sputtered just fine  wrong point three

I would have been able to fix the bike if you had at least one decent tool 
in your house better then a bent up butter knife and Fisher Price plastic 
adjustable pliers..

For the record Mr. Riepe  the 748 was running fine within 72 hours.

Thank you for your kind attention...

Duc 


From 321design at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 18:20:51 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob H)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:20:51 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Tidewater Grille?
Message-ID: <3651506989675299901@unknownmsgid>

I'm tired of riding this Stihl chainsaw cleaning up from the storm.  I
want to ride some BMW steel.

Anyone care to ride down to the Tidewater Grille in MD at about 4 and
enjoy some nice crab by the bay?

Call me 484-467-1780
Rob; sent from my iPhone

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 22:26:40 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 18:26:40 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Humor: The Pillsbury Doughboy gets it...
Message-ID: <AANLkTikTjozih3iR-OFeJ9WrYbRGXbR7sQeAwoEVAZw3@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_2RZABiePo
(Not fully WS due to a bit of language, but not real loudly done.  The
end is the kicker.)

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Ambassador BMW MOA   |
Brian Curry          |      Is Getting Old, Getting Old?
"DEERsSLAYER"        |      Aging Factors Can be Stopped
K75RTs both coasts   |      Find out more about it at
Chester Springs PA   |      http://www.nsevideos.com

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 22:59:17 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 18:59:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
In-Reply-To: <0ED9A2912C6541FEAD47CCB68601B04B@heilveil5e3fdd>
References: <70801639.10647391277513671045.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<1277554360.13120.1382001809@webmail.messagingengine.com>
	<AANLkTilDe_4bqr6MdB3kTyskVO6BfTCW9PhUydFgAy-Z@mail.gmail.com>
	<0ED9A2912C6541FEAD47CCB68601B04B@heilveil5e3fdd>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilLq97opfMaTSyaG2YpKrVsw94BjBWe36qvjXt_@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Chrome Dome:

That was my story, and I'm sticking to it.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From 321design at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 00:07:25 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:07:25 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Tidewater Grille?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikKPui-YbHmhHvi7hpbdHZ-CGqFZTrmGL3fRn8z@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3651506989675299901@unknownmsgid>
	<AANLkTikKPui-YbHmhHvi7hpbdHZ-CGqFZTrmGL3fRn8z@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinqVhFWwpgkA7dVlMCNZzbE_TkG8Hi6QRWs9IHr@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Ken Bruce <kgbruce1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Would love to but I"m still having my own chainsawfest sans electricity.
>
> Ken Bruce
>
> sent from the shoe phone


Too bad Ken. I got my electricity back Friday.

 The Tidewater served me the biggest soft shell crab I have ever seen;
about the size of my head. Nice view of the water too. Maybe next
time.
BTW, I don't think I will make it Wednesday. I forgot about a promised
dinner. Seeing if they can switch.


-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From rogers.george at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 00:21:28 2010
From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:21:28 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hutte's in Helvetia !
In-Reply-To: <D8359EA689804AF39F1622023EA7ECEE@dellfe483b726d>
References: <D8359EA689804AF39F1622023EA7ECEE@dellfe483b726d>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimB06Y7CP2ap_LzsjQqThNmWDgi_kT1Tm2dJe6U@mail.gmail.com>

Makes me want to go there! I mentioned some things from your post in
my travel blog, without naming anything. The posts will appear on the
28th and 30th of this month, if you care to look.
http://serenitytravelnewark.com

Best wishes,
Rogers George
http://writing-rag.com
http://rogersgeorge.com
http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com


On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Todd Trumbore <motorrader at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> June 18-20
> Festival of the Fives Rally, Seneca Rocks, WV
> ??...

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 00:59:29 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:59:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Win $3K,Vote for only M/C in X-Prize
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik5XM0pC-9aBT5Cd5p3DLgMKKZjQNP0G2Lg6lFS@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil-DtqGu8iT_R-dLkLYWt2OLjIcg4gEFHRlC3yy@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinR9JP-VwPkYDWmwEIJH0KxbQnmLEx4xRSQhXXL@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilxWBj2kzvJDOYtyfRxdZUHS00MQndrPs882Uxh@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik5XM0pC-9aBT5Cd5p3DLgMKKZjQNP0G2Lg6lFS@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil1RqJ5vUR_5rx9J-Gma3oc8pGGxm0_NtExJV3R@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:
> ...snip....
>> They are not announcing the results here yet (is that dumbed down enough?).
>>
>
> Yes, that's dumb enough. Two days after a state-of-the-art,
> computer-monitored event, they can't say who won the event? ?Sounds
> like the election in Afghanistan. ?It's not the eTracer's fault, but I
> wonder what kind of people or marketers are running this event.



Doug,

I think that the results reside in the Progressiveautoxprize web site.
But I haven't  been able to find it so far (just figured out how to
vote).

At the Swiss Ambassador's party yesterday, they said that the
E-TRACERS were running first and second in the tandem class as of
yesterday.

If it stays that way, 2.5mil goes to make more STREAMLINERS for the STREET.

Dano

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 27 01:57:36 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:57:36 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
In-Reply-To: <8CCE34C1C42D58F-23B4-98B8@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <C84C2850.46FE%jasiii@earthlink.net>

> it. Toss it! You'll be back on your feet in a few 
days.

Organs, schmorgans!
> I've had a half-dozen organs removed, just makes me 
faster and
> meaner.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley,

Ah so that is what happen to your sense of humor; it was surgically removed

Jim (ducking in Delaware)



From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Sun Jun 27 02:05:44 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 22:05:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bumper Sticker for Cutter
In-Reply-To: <07C63AAEFA7D4A8E866A4BB814FFFFF2@home.robinson.org>
Message-ID: <4C2679B8.28160.3AAC216@localhost>



> Saw this on the back of a pickup truck today.
> 
> "Road Racing - Cause sports like Baseball, Soccer, Basketball,
> Football, and Golf only require 1 ball"
> 

"Quarter Midget Racing --- All other sports only require one ball." 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From bmwdick at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 01:15:21 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 21:15:21 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
In-Reply-To: <1277504005.25054.1381945135@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <1277504005.25054.1381945135@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin0l-N2ZWe_kKDcCUkF7ZMjS7uVPChrehFECtb5@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Jill McCarley <ladyvol at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Pac,
>
> I have a dilemma.  I was yesterday diagnosed with mono, which is in and
> of itself, very miserable.



(SNIPPED)
>


> trapped in invalid hell,
>
> Jill:
>

See if you can get Riepe to ride in front of you. It workds for me; he's s
great Minivan buffer, and I mean GREAT.

-- 
BMW-Dick
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I?m not sure
about the universe.?    Albert Einstein.
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From bmwdick at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 11:12:17 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:12:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dammit...Forbidden From Riding
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimE3aQZvTXhJh6qoTTrQZcDhI1aGpe4NwX5sdk0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1277504005.25054.1381945135@webmail.messagingengine.com> 
	<AANLkTimE3aQZvTXhJh6qoTTrQZcDhI1aGpe4NwX5sdk0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim0XcsE9oZr4rmxl5bwqGrE7FgIcUCmUoLF-fo7@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Jill:
You have to take Riepe's advice judiciously.
The closest he came to having sex at a Rally was when he was screwed by The
Tire Nazi.
-- 
BMW-Dick

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:

> At the risk of being the voice of reason, trailer the bike up there and
> ride
> around carefully once you arrive. Save yourself 98% of the fatigue. The
> real
> fun is drinking and getting laid at the event anyway.
>
> On Jun 25, 2010 6:13 PM, "Jill McCarley" <ladyvol at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
> Pac,
>
> I have a dilemma.
>

(SNIPPED - to placate the List Nazi)
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From bmwdick at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 11:22:57 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:22:57 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Things you can see while sailing the South Pacific in
	your yacht
Message-ID: <AANLkTins0fo3m0svs3kQL9gizMMjhpjDLJjrWdLiCEzt@mail.gmail.com>

http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/0409142C-2FDE-46D3-9907-0B82F37A3DB4/

-- 
BMW-Dick
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I?m not sure
about the universe.?    Albert Einstein.
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From fawudd at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 02:04:05 2010
From: fawudd at gmail.com (W Thompson)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:04:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] R1200GS Oil Filter Tool
Message-ID: <AANLkTinuLfQ5a1-TbYnUwDA6xpNOv7kU1XEKhbx61_w_@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have an oil filter tool for the R1200GS that I can buy or borrow
? I'm located in the Bethlehem area. Thanks

-- 
http://classicvelocity.squarespace.com
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From kgbruce1 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 23:36:35 2010
From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 19:36:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Tidewater Grille?
In-Reply-To: <3651506989675299901@unknownmsgid>
References: <3651506989675299901@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikKPui-YbHmhHvi7hpbdHZ-CGqFZTrmGL3fRn8z@mail.gmail.com>

Would love to but I"m still having my own chainsawfest sans electricity.

Ken Bruce

sent from the shoe phone

On Jun 26, 2010 2:21 PM, "Rob H" <321design at gmail.com> wrote:

I'm tired of riding this Stihl chainsaw cleaning up from the storm.  I
want to ride some BMW steel.

Anyone care to ride down to the Tidewater Grille in MD at about 4 and
enjoy some nice crab by the bay?

Call me 484-467-1780
Rob; sent from my iPhone
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From tpcutter at aol.com  Sun Jun 27 02:45:25 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 22:45:25 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bumper Sticker for Cutter
In-Reply-To: <07C63AAEFA7D4A8E866A4BB814FFFFF2@home.robinson.org>
References: <07C63AAEFA7D4A8E866A4BB814FFFFF2@home.robinson.org>
Message-ID: <8CCE3B9EDF0B896-3328-17CB1@webmail-m103.sysops.aol.com>


Robo-san posted:

<<Saw this on the back of a pickup truck today."Road Racing - Cause 
sports like Baseball, Soccer, Basketball, Football, and Golf only 
require 1 ball">>

I guess you forgot my sig line from last year:

"Baseball, Soccer, Football: One Ball
Roadracing : Two Balls "


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Sun Jun 27 02:54:57 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 22:54:57 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dirty Pictures of my Kid
Message-ID: <4C268541.14022.3D7CEEB@localhost>

http://home.jtan.com/~joe/race_pics/mrd_phoenixville_6_26_10_17.jpg

The Oaklane track is closed for 2 weeks due to the eastern grands 
races.  Last year during the closure Matt and I borrowed some dirt 
tires and tried our hand at the dirt track at Schnecksville.  We had 
a great time.  We raced there on last Tuesday and had a good time, 
but the show was shortened due to rain.  We only got in one race.  We 
were going to race there today even though it was another short show 
due to the Schnecksville fair.

I check on the web and the Phoenixville track was having a regular 
show.  This was a no-brainer for me.  2x the races and 10 miles 
closer to home.  It was a track that Matt had not gone to since he 
was 5.  I changed the gear in the car and Matt and I packed up and 
headed off to Phoenixville.

When we get there we learn that we would get 3 times on the track as 
they have controlled practice before the races.  3x the racing!  The 
warm ups were a bit of a waste as several of the drivers spun, which 
brought out the yellow, but the time kept running.  Matt never got to 
full speed :-(  He did get the feel for the track and he was sliding 
around with the best of them.  He looks good compared to the other 
drivers :-)

After practice I checked the tach and the max RPM was 5320, which is 
OK, but who knows how much faster he could have gone with another lap 
or two.  I like to keep the RPM under 5450 as that is when the valves 
start to float.  The engine does not have much above that.  OK, it 
has nothing.  The torque drops way off.

Matt started 6th for the heat race and he got a great start.  He 
worked his way up to 2nd when ran out of drive.  The third place car 
caught up to him and passed.  He was able to stay in third, pulling 
away from the pack.  After the race I looked at the tach and he 
turned 5560!  No wonder he ran out of steam.

I was running a 33 tooth axle gear.  I purchased a 32 tooth axle gear 
which should take 200 rpm off the engine.  This was a bit of a guess. 
 If I took another tooth out I would loose another ~200.  The hope is 
the car could make that up with speed.  On the other hand 200 rpm is 
a big jump.  I had heard that on Saturdays the track gets dry and 
hard and some people used asphalt tires for the features.  The track 
was sure dry, and it was taking rubber like crazy.  I asked a friend 
it he thought this was one of those times when one could use the 
asphalt tires.  He said yes. 

I put on the asphalt tires and hoped for the best.  I measured the 
circumference of the new tire and it was 1/2" bigger.  This would 
reduce the effective gearing a bit and would put my rpm in a better 
place.  It did mess up my stagger, so I put 3 more psi into the left 
rear tire to increase its circumference.  Let's race.

Matt was gridded 5th for the feature.  He got a great start and 
passed up to 3rd in the first full lap.  The car was moving.  
Unfortunately, one of the last cars spun just before crossing the 
finish line and they had to restart the race.  This time it was 
single file.  Matt passed the #4 car on the restart.  There was 
another spin.  Matt passed the #4 car on the restart.  There was 
another spin (repeat 4 more times!).  Finally the green flag came out 
and stayed for a bit and Matt passed up to 2nd.  Another spin.

Matt got a good start and took the lead.  He lead for a few laps and 
the yellow came out.  He held the lead until the next yellow, which 
happened after the 15 minute time limit.  The race was over.  Matt 
won!

http://home.jtan.com/~joe/race_pics/mrd_phoenixville_6_26_10_12.jpg
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/race_pics/mrd_phoenixville_6_26_10_16.jpg

What a day!

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From mrmevans at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 03:20:52 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 23:20:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dirty Pictures of my Kid
In-Reply-To: <4C268541.14022.3D7CEEB@localhost>
References: <4C268541.14022.3D7CEEB@localhost>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinnvoVj168z_V09xSlWJzPhlZB67jBqzZpz8fts@mail.gmail.com>

Great news Joe. Wish you posted earlier and the boys and I would have
come over to cheer Matt on in our back yard.



On 6/26/10, Joe Dille <joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us> wrote:
> http://home.jtan.com/~joe/race_pics/mrd_phoenixville_6_26_10_17.jpg
>
> The Oaklane track is closed for 2 weeks due to the eastern grands
> races.  Last year during the closure Matt and I borrowed some dirt
> tires and tried our hand at the dirt track at Schnecksville.  We had
> a great time.  We raced there on last Tuesday and had a good time,
> but the show was shortened due to rain.  We only got in one race.  We
> were going to race there today even though it was another short show
> due to the Schnecksville fair.
>
> I check on the web and the Phoenixville track was having a regular
> show.  This was a no-brainer for me.  2x the races and 10 miles
> closer to home.  It was a track that Matt had not gone to since he
> was 5.  I changed the gear in the car and Matt and I packed up and
> headed off to Phoenixville.
>
> When we get there we learn that we would get 3 times on the track as
> they have controlled practice before the races.  3x the racing!  The
> warm ups were a bit of a waste as several of the drivers spun, which
> brought out the yellow, but the time kept running.  Matt never got to
> full speed :-(  He did get the feel for the track and he was sliding
> around with the best of them.  He looks good compared to the other
> drivers :-)
>
> After practice I checked the tach and the max RPM was 5320, which is
> OK, but who knows how much faster he could have gone with another lap
> or two.  I like to keep the RPM under 5450 as that is when the valves
> start to float.  The engine does not have much above that.  OK, it
> has nothing.  The torque drops way off.
>
> Matt started 6th for the heat race and he got a great start.  He
> worked his way up to 2nd when ran out of drive.  The third place car
> caught up to him and passed.  He was able to stay in third, pulling
> away from the pack.  After the race I looked at the tach and he
> turned 5560!  No wonder he ran out of steam.
>
> I was running a 33 tooth axle gear.  I purchased a 32 tooth axle gear
> which should take 200 rpm off the engine.  This was a bit of a guess.
>  If I took another tooth out I would loose another ~200.  The hope is
> the car could make that up with speed.  On the other hand 200 rpm is
> a big jump.  I had heard that on Saturdays the track gets dry and
> hard and some people used asphalt tires for the features.  The track
> was sure dry, and it was taking rubber like crazy.  I asked a friend
> it he thought this was one of those times when one could use the
> asphalt tires.  He said yes.
>
> I put on the asphalt tires and hoped for the best.  I measured the
> circumference of the new tire and it was 1/2" bigger.  This would
> reduce the effective gearing a bit and would put my rpm in a better
> place.  It did mess up my stagger, so I put 3 more psi into the left
> rear tire to increase its circumference.  Let's race.
>
> Matt was gridded 5th for the feature.  He got a great start and
> passed up to 3rd in the first full lap.  The car was moving.
> Unfortunately, one of the last cars spun just before crossing the
> finish line and they had to restart the race.  This time it was
> single file.  Matt passed the #4 car on the restart.  There was
> another spin.  Matt passed the #4 car on the restart.  There was
> another spin (repeat 4 more times!).  Finally the green flag came out
> and stayed for a bit and Matt passed up to 2nd.  Another spin.
>
> Matt got a good start and took the lead.  He lead for a few laps and
> the yellow came out.  He held the lead until the next yellow, which
> happened after the 15 minute time limit.  The race was over.  Matt
> won!
>
> http://home.jtan.com/~joe/race_pics/mrd_phoenixville_6_26_10_12.jpg
> http://home.jtan.com/~joe/race_pics/mrd_phoenixville_6_26_10_16.jpg
>
> What a day!
>
> Ride Safe,
>
> Joe
> ---------------------------------
> Joe Dille
> Telford, PA USA
> joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
> What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
> http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm
>
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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 03:34:43 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 23:34:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] You may work in EOD but it does not make you invincible
	on a motorcycle
Message-ID: <AANLkTinO7PQYCMP1QmPdq5UcKY5IK4sT4gd_BnWqDVkE@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.mugshotmuseum.com/out_of_uniform.html
(WS)

You might be a good talker though.  Not only you were NAKED on the
bike but your passenger too.  She was tough enough to walk 3/10 of a
mile to a business with a broken arm and leg.

Or both of you were feeling no pain.  I wonder if that would work
while working if things go wrong?

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 04:01:16 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 00:01:16 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Deer are bad Moose are worse
Message-ID: <AANLkTin2K__T5vQB7HEYjmPhOrInUmmaMORfhs9mW1KT@mail.gmail.com>

not only that but they might just spread the word to the rest of the pack...

http://www.theprovince.com/Sister+hits+moose+visit+sister+moose/3184606/story.html

"Sister hits moose on way to visit sister who hit moose
 One woman in 100 Mile House hospital, the other recovering in Vancouver"

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From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 04:05:43 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 00:05:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Win $3K,Vote for only M/C in X-Prize
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil1RqJ5vUR_5rx9J-Gma3oc8pGGxm0_NtExJV3R@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil-DtqGu8iT_R-dLkLYWt2OLjIcg4gEFHRlC3yy@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinR9JP-VwPkYDWmwEIJH0KxbQnmLEx4xRSQhXXL@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilxWBj2kzvJDOYtyfRxdZUHS00MQndrPs882Uxh@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik5XM0pC-9aBT5Cd5p3DLgMKKZjQNP0G2Lg6lFS@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil1RqJ5vUR_5rx9J-Gma3oc8pGGxm0_NtExJV3R@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikuBlbbnGrZxVf_Ag2IZNCYDJiRTUDAMWaNnvnQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:

...snip..
> I think that the results reside in the Progressiveautoxprize web site.
> But I haven't ?been able to find it so far (just figured out how to
> vote).
>
> At the Swiss Ambassador's party yesterday, they said that the
> E-TRACERS were running first and second in the tandem class as of
> yesterday.
>
> If it stays that way, 2.5mil goes to make more STREAMLINERS for the STREET.
>

It sure sounds like eTracers deserve to win, I hope the judging is fair.


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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 04:07:38 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 00:07:38 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Naval Film from "Back in the Day"
Message-ID: <AANLkTilFRDH_v3znDxsInPhVhfOu-385hklfamTIdntF@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.filmpreservation.org/preserved-films/screening-room/u-s-navy-documentary-1915
(WS 11 Min)

==========
The results show sailors as they go about their day?doing repairs,
cleaning the deck, exercising, as well as demonstrating naval might.
The film drew praise as capturing ?the pulse-beat of the complex life
that throbs through our dreadnoughts from reveille to ?taps.??
==========

Just AMAZING, seeing submarines from back in _1915_.  Inky Dinky
little things.  The "big ships" truly "flew the flag"!!

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From Ducdude at verizon.net  Sun Jun 27 13:01:49 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 09:01:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bumper Sticker for Cutter
References: <4C2679B8.28160.3AAC216@localhost>
Message-ID: <B63DC51EF4A1484D99616F43CDC1115F@heilveil5e3fdd>

 
>> Saw this on the back of a pickup truck today.
>> 
>> "Road Racing - Cause sports like Baseball, Soccer, Basketball,
>> Football, and Golf only require 1 ball"
>> 
> 
> "Quarter Midget Racing --- All other sports only require one ball." 
> ---------------------------------
> Joe Dille


Ahhh  what about the Girls that race???

Duc

From Ducdude at verizon.net  Sun Jun 27 12:58:03 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 08:58:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC]  R1200GS Oil Filter Tool
References: <AANLkTinuLfQ5a1-TbYnUwDA6xpNOv7kU1XEKhbx61_w_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5EA32A4CF39344FCBA533AB1B0B7AADC@heilveil5e3fdd>

I have one you can borrow but I am in Abington, PA...1-1.5 hours away.....

If you want bring the new oil and filter and you can change you oil here...

Email or Cell and let me know ---

215-385-0180

Ducdude
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Mac-Pac list" <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:04 PM
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [MAC-PAC] R1200GS Oil Filter Tool


> Does anyone have an oil filter tool for the R1200GS that I can buy or 
> borrow
> ? I'm located in the Bethlehem area. Thanks
>
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From gary5410 at aol.com  Sun Jun 27 15:08:29 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:08:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] R1200GS Oil Filter Tool
In-Reply-To: <5EA32A4CF39344FCBA533AB1B0B7AADC@heilveil5e3fdd>
References: <AANLkTinuLfQ5a1-TbYnUwDA6xpNOv7kU1XEKhbx61_w_@mail.gmail.com>
	<5EA32A4CF39344FCBA533AB1B0B7AADC@heilveil5e3fdd>
Message-ID: <8CCE421BC292839-1368-2A444@webmail-m064.sysops.aol.com>

I have one in Kempton.
Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure




> Does anyone have an oil filter tool for the R1200GS that I can buy or
> borrow
> ? I'm located in the Bethlehem area. Thanks


From gary5410 at aol.com  Sun Jun 27 15:16:09 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:16:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bumper Sticker for Cutter
In-Reply-To: <B63DC51EF4A1484D99616F43CDC1115F@heilveil5e3fdd>
References: <4C2679B8.28160.3AAC216@localhost>
	<B63DC51EF4A1484D99616F43CDC1115F@heilveil5e3fdd>
Message-ID: <8CCE422CE7D3ED9-1368-2A518@webmail-m064.sysops.aol.com>

.........there ain't none here......best I can tell!

http://www.danicaracing.com/main.html

P.S. Joe - Great stuff with the kid!!!!!!

Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Ducdude <Ducdude at verizon.net>
To: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us; Jim Robinson 
<bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net>; MAC-PAC <mac-pac-l at jtan.com>



Ahhh  what about the Girls that race???

Duc
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From Ducdude at verizon.net  Sun Jun 27 15:39:28 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:39:28 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bumper Sticker for Cutter
References: <4C2679B8.28160.3AAC216@localhost>
	<B63DC51EF4A1484D99616F43CDC1115F@heilveil5e3fdd>
	<AANLkTimhbiG5BxBFWsC6XcJL6y814A1xPekGQqDIDiZb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BE72C86F546441149B9A014A58261105@heilveil5e3fdd>

On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Eric Ducdude <Ducdude at verizon.net> wrote:

>> Saw this on the back of a pickup truck today.
>>
>> "Road Racing - Cause sports like Baseball, Soccer, Basketball,
>> Football, and Golf only require 1 ball"
> "Quarter Midget Racing --- All other sports only require one ball."
>
> Joe Dille
___________________________________________
Ahhh  what about the Girls that race???

Duc
___________________________________________l

Chances are they already have some guy's. . .
BMW-Dick
___________________________________________
As the father of a daughter  I can tell you some girls have no need for some 
guys balls  they have plenty of their own..

Duc Dad 


From tpcutter at aol.com  Sun Jun 27 15:40:49 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:40:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bumper Sticker for Cutter
In-Reply-To: <8CCE422CE7D3ED9-1368-2A518@webmail-m064.sysops.aol.com>
References: <4C2679B8.28160.3AAC216@localhost><B63DC51EF4A1484D99616F43CDC1115F@heilveil5e3fdd>
	<8CCE422CE7D3ED9-1368-2A518@webmail-m064.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CCE42640AC736D-2AD0-1E6F7@Webmail-m118.sysops.aol.com>


<<.........there ain't none here......best I can 
tell!http://www.danicaracing.com/main.htmlP.S. Joe - Great stuff with 
the kid!!!!!!>>

Google up Elena Meyers....


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From Doug at pencader.com  Sun Jun 27 15:57:24 2010
From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:57:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Keepin' Cool
Message-ID: <008c01cb1611$7125d130$53717390$@com>

Gang, 

Seein' as how the heat index will be around 100 today, I thought it an
appropriate time to mention a product I bought recently that is helping me
stay comfortably cool (or at least not uncomfortably hot) when riding in
temps 90 and above. It's a vest made in the USA by Silver Eagle Products
that helps keep you cool by an utilizing evaporative cooling as you ride.

We all know the refreshing chill we get by pouring some water over our heads
or down our backs when we take a break from riding on a hot day. This is no
different - there is no magic here - it's just more of a controlled process.
It's made of a specialized fabric called "Hydroweave" which you saturate
with water before use, and it continues to cool you down for as much as 6
hours, depending on how hot it actually is, how fast you ride, etc. It does
not feel like a wet rag - it is very comfortable.

Here's a link to the site where you can order it on-line;
(https://www.silvereagleoutfitters.com/shop/Motorcycle_Cooling_Gear.htm),
and at $95 bucks, it ain't cheap. But I can tell you from first-hand
experience, it does work and was a good investment in refreshing comfort for
me. It makes the difference between riding vs. caging it in temperatures
above 90 degrees (although I generally use it from 85 on up), and for me, I
am riding comfortably, not just tolerably when using it.

There are links on the site to some tests that "prove" that it works for all
geeks and wannabe's like me, but the proof for me was in the riding. I use
my bike as my primary transportation for my job (appraising real estate),
and this new "accessory" allows me to stay significantly more comfortable
when the heat and humidity would otherwise put me in my old pickup with air
conditioning. Like most of us, I'd rather be on two wheels. This investment
will help keep me there.

Just a quick FYI.

Best to all,

Doug
'01 1150 GSP
Bear, DE


From gary5410 at aol.com  Sun Jun 27 16:16:02 2010
From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:16:02 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bumper Sticker for Cutter
In-Reply-To: <8CCE42640AC736D-2AD0-1E6F7@Webmail-m118.sysops.aol.com>
References: <4C2679B8.28160.3AAC216@localhost><B63DC51EF4A1484D99616F43CDC1115F@heilveil5e3fdd>
	<8CCE422CE7D3ED9-1368-2A518@webmail-m064.sysops.aol.com>
	<8CCE42640AC736D-2AD0-1E6F7@Webmail-m118.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CCE42B2BD309D2-1368-2AB5D@webmail-m064.sysops.aol.com>

Tom,
You got me there.....much more appropriate!
Gary Christman
'07 R 1200 GS Adventure



-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com>



<<.........there ain't none here......best I can 
tell!http://www.danicaracing.com/main.htmlP.S. Joe - Great stuff with 
the kid!!!!!!>>?
?
Google up Elena Meyers....?
?
--??
Tom Cutter?


  

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 16:34:27 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:34:27 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] E-TRACER in 4th from 12th in style vote.
Message-ID: <AANLkTimHfHVV-1J4ootmtbrHiGiGk4z1ll-Ud-Q2JWg_@mail.gmail.com>

You did it Mac-Pac!!

You voted the # 72 X-TRACER out of 12th place into 4th.

The reason I know you did it is because all the Europeans were voting
for # 79 X-TRACER.

By the way, # 72 is leading the tandem division and # 79 is in second place!!!!

What a great day for the motorcycling world. We are going to beat the cars!!

By the way, my ECO ran great up to Brooklyn MI, put on almost 700
miles there (lot of just riding and demo rides) and got me home to
Greensboro by 4:00 PM Friday after dropping Rick Rys off at Detroit
Metro Airport at 5:00 AM along the way.

Rick is putting together a picture report on the X-PRIZE experience
which should be up this week.

It was really great to be in such a large event full of vehicles just
as weird (or weirder) than the ECO.  There is a place for streamliner
geeks to meet face to face after all.

ECO Dano

Greensbo, NC

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 16:45:58 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:45:58 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] E-TRACER in 4th from 12th in style vote.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimHfHVV-1J4ootmtbrHiGiGk4z1ll-Ud-Q2JWg_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimHfHVV-1J4ootmtbrHiGiGk4z1ll-Ud-Q2JWg_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim3P2A13DMHPHULNFvDF3phK0yi3qiy0rOx9e5L@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/27/10, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:
> You did it Mac-Pac!!
>
>  You voted the # 72 X-TRACER out of 12th place into 4th.
>
>  The reason I know you did it is because all the Europeans were voting
>  for # 79 X-TRACER.
>
>  By the way, # 72 is leading the tandem division and # 79 is in second place!!!!

I have forgotten.  How often can we vote?

Another thing.  It probably can be played a bit by using two browsers.
 One for 72 and one for 79.

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From piechota at argolis.org  Sun Jun 27 16:12:25 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:12:25 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Keepin' Cool
In-Reply-To: <008c01cb1611$7125d130$53717390$@com>
References: <008c01cb1611$7125d130$53717390$@com>
Message-ID: <1277655145.4372.12.camel@easter-bunny.pa.argolis.org>

On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 11:57 -0400, Doug wrote:
> Gang, 
> 
> Seein' as how the heat index will be around 100 today, I thought it an
> appropriate time to mention a product I bought recently that is helping me
> stay comfortably cool (or at least not uncomfortably hot) when riding in
> temps 90 and above. It's a vest made in the USA by Silver Eagle Products
> that helps keep you cool by an utilizing evaporative cooling as you ride.

On a related note, I was riding with a cheap 'moisture wicking' shirt
yesterday (and days before).  It's surprising how cool it is when you
sweat a bit and then get moving.  The disadvantage is it doesn't cool as
dramatically after it dries out.  It does seem to dehydrate you a bit,
so riding with a water supply (Camelback or equivalent) is a good idea.
I went thru 3+ litres of water yesterday for 200 miles, although part of
that was hiking.

The shirts are available at Target or Walmart for about $10, it's really
worth a shot.  The one I wore is a C9 by Champion.


From Ducdude at verizon.net  Sun Jun 27 16:53:33 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:53:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bumper Sticker for Cutter
References: <4C2679B8.28160.3AAC216@localhost>
	<B63DC51EF4A1484D99616F43CDC1115F@heilveil5e3fdd>
	<AANLkTimhbiG5BxBFWsC6XcJL6y814A1xPekGQqDIDiZb@mail.gmail.com>
	<BE72C86F546441149B9A014A58261105@heilveil5e3fdd>
	<AANLkTimUnvB4x3dqo9Z5tZMn6euQrggm31VtDQOhsurJ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <31AB347ABFD5416A896A4BB6E1BD89C7@heilveil5e3fdd>

On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Eric Ducdude <Ducdude at verizon.net> wrote:

___________________________________________
As the father of a daughter  I can tell you some girls have no need for some guys balls  they have plenty of their own..
Duc Dad 

You think she has huevos now, wait until she grows up; then run and hide ;)
-- 
BMW-Dick


I started digging the bomb shelter the day after she was born..

Duc
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From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 18:36:48 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:36:48 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] R1200GS Oil Filter Tool
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinuLfQ5a1-TbYnUwDA6xpNOv7kU1XEKhbx61_w_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinuLfQ5a1-TbYnUwDA6xpNOv7kU1XEKhbx61_w_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikGkjZvVrkjjTl8DUInwCnLDg1Hh7Qwnn_Wleab@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:04 PM, W Thompson <fawudd at gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have an oil filter tool for the R1200GS that I can buy or borrow
> ? I'm located in the Bethlehem area. Thanks
>

Apparently my oil fllter wrench for R1150RT does not fit, but Charlie
Gilman has the right one in Hellertown and says you can change your
oil there.  I just rode through Bethlehem today and dropped in on him.

Email me if you want to follow up, Charlie doesn't monitor MacPac mail
often these days.

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Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Sun Jun 27 18:38:28 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:38:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bumper Sticker for Cutter
In-Reply-To: <1860724145.40229.1277663892090.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Eric Ducdude <Ducdude at verizon.net> wrote: 

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As the father of a daughter I can tell you some girls have no need for some guys balls they have plenty of their own.. 
Duc Dad 

You think she has huevos now, wait until she grows up; then run and hide ;) 
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I started digging the bomb shelter the day after she was born.. 

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From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 18:46:54 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:46:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] E-TRACER in 4th from 12th in style vote.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimHfHVV-1J4ootmtbrHiGiGk4z1ll-Ud-Q2JWg_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimHfHVV-1J4ootmtbrHiGiGk4z1ll-Ud-Q2JWg_@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:
> You did it Mac-Pac!!
>
> You voted the # 72 X-TRACER out of 12th place into 4th.
>
> The reason I know you did it is because all the Europeans were voting
> for # 79 X-TRACER.

I suppose #72 and #79 are identical, so they will probably add the two
for the final "Style Vote" in a couple of weeks, right?

> By the way, # 72 is leading the tandem division and # 79 is in second place!!!!

Performance-wise, right? So are they up around 200MPGe?
>
> What a great day for the motorcycling world. We are going to beat the cars!!
>
> By the way, my ECO ran great up to Brooklyn MI, put on almost 700
> miles there (lot of just riding and demo rides) and got me home to
> Greensboro by 4:00 PM Friday after dropping Rick Rys off at Detroit
> Metro Airport at 5:00 AM along the way.
>

Great, sounds like your Eco is really reliable.

Thanks for the update Dan.

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R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From honeybrk at dejazzd.com  Sun Jun 27 19:52:23 2010
From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:52:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] There is nothing like a Vincent
Message-ID: <005f01cb1632$42ecc460$4101a8c0@FastHP>

For all you Vincent enthusiasts
Also many of you probably know  Bill

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=230493#



From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 20:21:01 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:21:01 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Keepin' Cool
In-Reply-To: <008c01cb1611$7125d130$53717390$@com>
References: <008c01cb1611$7125d130$53717390$@com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilvT8GhGj576ddvvEqzYkp91UUHBqasLgKgqfmq@mail.gmail.com>

> and this new "accessory" allows me to stay significantly more comfortable
> when the heat and humidity would otherwise put me in my old pickup with air
> conditioning. Like most of us, I'd rather be on two wheels. This investment
> will help keep me there.
>
> Just a quick FYI.
>
> Best to all,
>
> Doug

I was seeing interior temp gauge hit 39?C yesterday (102?F) in ECO.

Dano

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 20:28:01 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:28:01 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] E-TRACER in 4th from 12th in style vote.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim3P2A13DMHPHULNFvDF3phK0yi3qiy0rOx9e5L@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimHfHVV-1J4ootmtbrHiGiGk4z1ll-Ud-Q2JWg_@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTinSXmctdDhHwcrJl8K9g0Wc_JgkPwrvUApeLn4L@mail.gmail.com>

>> ?You voted the # 72 X-TRACER out of 12th place into 4th.
>>
>> ?The reason I know you did it is because all the Europeans were voting
>> ?for # 79 X-TRACER.
>>
>> ?By the way, # 72 is leading the tandem division and # 79 is in second place!!!!
>
> I have forgotten. ?How often can we vote?
>
> Another thing. ?It probably can be played a bit by using two browsers.
> ?One for 72 and one for 79.


You can vote every day!!  You can win $3K, So please do so!!.

Thanks, Dano

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 22:02:15 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:02:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] An "interesting" K bike
Message-ID: <AANLkTim7sTiQqBJwh9skf9Yy_e62oiDknu0IlCgUVug0@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.bikeexif.com/bmw-k100-custom
(WS)

Guy put a lot of work into it.  I bet it does sound different.
Interesting putting a K11 Moronic on it, and then tweaking that with a
Powercommander.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 22:21:07 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:21:07 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] There is nothing like a Vincent
In-Reply-To: <005f01cb1632$42ecc460$4101a8c0@FastHP>
References: <005f01cb1632$42ecc460$4101a8c0@FastHP>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinBOQMMjtCl_cz61yNJ6l9MCJ_OcMNeAdhuzhzs@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/27/10, Marge Busch <honeybrk at dejazzd.com> wrote:
> For all you Vincent enthusiasts
>  Also many of you probably know  Bill
>
>  http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=230493#
>

Wow, I have not seen Bill for a long time.  The time I remember is
climbing around in the drywell of Peach Bottom, looking for leaks
before the unit got to full power.

THNX Marge.

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From rsorens at comcast.net  Sun Jun 27 22:49:48 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:49:48 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] An "interesting" K bike
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim7sTiQqBJwh9skf9Yy_e62oiDknu0IlCgUVug0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D388AA85E99149A0ADF608B4D838FF02@Tekki>

http://www.bikeexif.com/bmw-k100-custom

Interesting, the paint job is....well, ugly.

What is the advantage of the K100 frame? Shorter wheel-base? I find it hard
to believe the K100 frame is  more stable/stiff than the K1200RS.

'spailn, please, Lucy.


Rick


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 23:33:33 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:33:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] An "interesting" K bike
In-Reply-To: <D388AA85E99149A0ADF608B4D838FF02@Tekki>
References: <AANLkTim7sTiQqBJwh9skf9Yy_e62oiDknu0IlCgUVug0@mail.gmail.com>
	<D388AA85E99149A0ADF608B4D838FF02@Tekki>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik0vSdEOvHeSt6ZWNKn7ZBBpr8b80oTarcTgIZD@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/27/10, Rick Sorensen <rsorens at comcast.net> wrote:
> http://www.bikeexif.com/bmw-k100-custom
>
>
> Interesting, the paint job is....well, ugly.
>
>  What is the advantage of the K100 frame? Shorter wheel-base? I find it hard
>  to believe the K100 frame is  more stable/stiff than the K1200RS.

People complained bitterly about vibration in the K-4s.  The bigger
the engine the more of a problem it was/is on a solid mounted engine.
The K12s "solved" it by rubber mounting the engine.  The engine just
sounds like it is ready to fall out at idle.

With the K100 frame the engine is part of the frame.  I found it
interesting that the mount points were still all the same.  Although I
remember checking and finding that a R100S airhead engine would fit in
an R26 frame, although I shudder to think of what the torque would do
to that frame amongst other things.

I think it is more "different" and it is "simpler". FSVOSimpler.

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From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 00:58:34 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:58:34 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
Message-ID: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>

Wayne, with your Motorola connection, could you make a plug for the
Droid vs iPhone?

For those of us who still have neither it would be a big help.

Also, I wish I had a reason to buy an iPad.  I don't, but I still want one.

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R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 01:13:02 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:13:02 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilgWZ18k8fFUSJckwZ5XUdjFYHs0dJ5EZmEbhC1@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/27/10, Doug Raymond <douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Also, I wish I had a reason to buy an iPad.  I don't, but I still want one.

What yer un-American not buying what you don't need to keep the
'murican economy going...

The iPhone has a huge installed base w/ a lot of apps.  I hear a
number of reports that as a phone it is not that good.  (The latest
and greatest iPhone 4 has about the worst antenna setup.  It is not
all Apple's fault, there are regulatory reasons and weirdness that
makes the "method" work in that world, even if not in the real world.)
 The "other stuff" is quite good.  The ATT network is being HAMMERED
by all the iPhone users.

I don't think we are as bad as NY, or SF though for network bandwidth.

Lotta interest in the Droid's.  Verizon network, not ATT. (Not sure if
there are any for Sprint yet.)  Apps coming up.  Apps are not as
controlled as in the Apple world.  Apps can be killed for no
observable reason in the Apple world, or if you want Pron, you don't
want the iPhone or iPad.  Steve Jobs doan want on Pron on his stuff.
Nor any Flash presentations.


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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 01:19:32 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:19:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Watch out for 'da bears"
Message-ID: <AANLkTikLCTTS4SIwGG3u5pYUluiAc6budZGbcPxLYeff@mail.gmail.com>

and not the LEO type...

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/06/motorcyclist_collides_with_bla.html
(WS)

The comments in the URL are a hoot.  Below are a number of comments
that I got with the note in the first place.  They are also a hoot.

I had a damn deer hiding out in my trees that I spooked when mowing
the lawn.  Damn hooved rats.


Motorcyclist collides with bear on NJ highway
Saturday, June 26, 2010
LAST UPDATED: SATURDAY JUNE 26, 2010, 5:15 PM
THE RECORD
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


FREDON, N.J.? ? A motorcyclist escaped serious injury Saturday when he
collided with a black bear that unexpectedly ran across a northwestern
New Jersey highway.
Sgt. Julian Castellanos, a state police spokesman, said the man was
northbound on Route 94 in the Sussex County community of Fredon when
the accident occurred around 9:30 a.m.

The motorcyclist ? whose name was not released ? was taken to Newton
Memorial Hospital, where he was treated for minor injuries and later
released.
Castellanos said the bear also survived and walked into the woods.


Reader Comments (7)

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Sunday June 27, 2010, 10:05 AM -?tiohermano?says:
I drove down the highway to the accident scene.I thought maybe the
animal was hurt and still nearby.I was very disappointed.When I got
there all i saw was a sign saying,BEAR LEFT.


Sunday June 27, 2010, 9:47 AM -?MMF?says:
Glad the motorcycle driver was OK. His bill and the law suit should go
directly to Corzine and Jackson for not having a bear hunt!!!!


Sunday June 27, 2010, 8:30 AM -?thistle1967?says:
The bear was originally a Canadian, but he has a green card.


Sunday June 27, 2010, 7:38 AM -?John1942?says:
And, while we're at it, check the bears immigration status.


Sunday June 27, 2010, 12:04 AM -?johnjohn222?says:
Oh, the bear might have been drunk? That's another charge, along with
leaving the scene of an accident.. The bear probably didn't have
insurance either; another charge. Oh by the way LM, I dont drink or do
drugs but I think you have issues for caring only about the bear and
not the innocent person who could have lost his or her life....


Saturday June 26, 2010, 9:07 PM -?LM?says:
Probably drunk like you must be. poor bear.


Saturday June 26, 2010, 8:14 PM -?johnjohn222?says:
Why wasn't the bear using a crosswalk? Hope the motorcyclist is o.k.
and put out a warrant to issue the bear a j-walking citation.

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From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 01:35:32 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:35:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] An "interesting" K bike
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik0vSdEOvHeSt6ZWNKn7ZBBpr8b80oTarcTgIZD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim7sTiQqBJwh9skf9Yy_e62oiDknu0IlCgUVug0@mail.gmail.com>
	<D388AA85E99149A0ADF608B4D838FF02@Tekki>
	<AANLkTik0vSdEOvHeSt6ZWNKn7ZBBpr8b80oTarcTgIZD@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/27/10, Rick Sorensen <rsorens at comcast.net> wrote:
>> http://www.bikeexif.com/bmw-k100-custom
>>
>>
>> Interesting, the paint job is....well, ugly.
>>
>> ?What is the advantage of the K100 frame? Shorter wheel-base? I find it hard
>> ?to believe the K100 frame is ?more stable/stiff than the K1200RS.
>
> People complained bitterly about vibration in the K-4s. ?The bigger
> the engine the more of a problem it was/is on a solid mounted engine.
> The K12s "solved" it by rubber mounting the engine. ?The engine just
> sounds like it is ready to fall out at idle.

My K-1200RS engine has 5 identical engine mounts, 3 on the right side
and 2 on the left.

How can the engine vibrate the same amplitude on the left side (2
Mts.) and the right side (3 mts.) ???? Seems to me that the loosely
held side would move more violently???

By the way, my ECO is K-100 RS from 1200RS engine, back to tire.

ECO Dano

Greensboro NC

From ladyvol at fastmail.fm  Mon Jun 28 01:51:35 2010
From: ladyvol at fastmail.fm (Jill McCarley)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:51:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilgWZ18k8fFUSJckwZ5XUdjFYHs0dJ5EZmEbhC1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilgWZ18k8fFUSJckwZ5XUdjFYHs0dJ5EZmEbhC1@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:13 -0400, "Brian Curry" <bmwbrian at gmail.com>
wrote:


SNIPPPerooooo
> 
> 
> Lotta interest in the Droid's.  Verizon network, not ATT. (Not sure if
> there are any for Sprint yet.) 
> 


Indeedy there is:  the Evo.  It has a GIANT screen and I've drooled over
it recently at a Sprint store.  I've had Sprint for over 10 years now,
and almost ditched them for the Iphone.  I'm glad I didn't, and I think
the Evo will be a superb machine.  I'll be getting one in Nov, when I'll
be eligible for a discount on an "upgrade".


Here's a linky:

http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/htc-evo-4g-black/4505-6452_7-34026334.html

all the best,

Jill
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'90 R100GS  
'06 K1200 R  "The Screaming Meanie"

Jill McCarley, MD
Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
Member, Ketchup Advisory Board
"Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness."


From Braveirwin at aol.com  Mon Jun 28 01:55:54 2010
From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:55:54 EDT
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
Message-ID: <94b4f.623a88c7.39595b2a@aol.com>



In a message dated 6/27/2010 8:59:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com writes:


Also, I wish I had a reason to buy an iPad.  I don't, but I  still want  
one.
==========================================================
I've had the Droid for 3 or 4 months, Doug. Of course I was a Verizon  
wireless customer before it was Verizon, before it was Bell Atlantic-Nynex,  
before that was Bell Atlantic. And I'm still not a geek so I am a slow learner  
of its capabilities. I will say that it has been one of the most trouble 
free  electronic devices for me so far. And it does much more than any other 
I've  had. I'm impressed I can browse the net out on the job when I need  
resources and I don't need to wait until I'm home and after dinner for my  
search time. I use the calculator, calander. phone, text capability, browser,  
e-mail and I just stated using Pandora music although I don't think I have  
much time for that frivolous stuff. I hope to soon start sending photos by  
e-mail so I can send photos to customers while they arte at work, or  
insurance companies (after this storm). HTH.  Roddy.   
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From rys at R2Controls.com  Mon Jun 28 02:31:25 2010
From: rys at R2Controls.com (Rick Rys)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:31:25 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] E-TRACER trip report
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinSXmctdDhHwcrJl8K9g0Wc_JgkPwrvUApeLn4L@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimHfHVV-1J4ootmtbrHiGiGk4z1ll-Ud-Q2JWg_@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTim3P2A13DMHPHULNFvDF3phK0yi3qiy0rOx9e5L@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <00a701cb166a$02000010$06000030$@com>

Report from the X-Prize 25 June 2010 (Pictures are coming soon):
Attending:
Tom & Kathy - ECO 
Dan Whitfield - ECO 
Jim - New Monotracer with only 450 miles on it
Roger Riedener - CEO Peraves and driver
Felix Wagner - Son of founder and President and driver
Many others on the Peraves team
Stefano Paris - Electric car guru and photography/video for x-Tracer team
Rick Rys - enthusiast

$10 million  - Mainstream Class vehicles must carry four or more passengers,
have four or more wheels, and offer a 200-mile range.
$5 Million - Alternative Class vehicles must carry two or more passengers
and allow for a 100-mile range. This class is split to "side by side" and to
"Tandem".  The X-trace is in the Tandem category and competes for a $2.5
Million prize.

Some links:
http://www.monotracer.ch/index.php?lang=en
http://www.xprize.org/auto/prize-details/teams
www.PlugInAmerica.com
http://www.acpropulsion.com/
http://www.brusa.biz/e_welcome.html


The field contained a very diverse collection of competitors.  Major car
companies did not come, i.e. Nisson Leaf, Chevy volt, Volkswagen L1, Loremo,
Tesla, and other vehicles did not come.  The X-prize organization and web
site make it rather hard to follow the progress and the performance numbers
- there is no overall chart with performance numbers. Data is slow to make
the web site. The 2 Peraves X-Tracer's appear to be very strong competitors
with excellent performance and economy.  Some vehicle were lower quality
assembly/body work (Spira and Illuninati for example) and others were rather
slick (Race About from Finland and FVT Racing from Canada for example). Most
entries were towed or pushed to the start line to save power.  The ECO
confidently drove up to the line from the pits and also off the track too.
The West Philly team were in the pits next to us with many high school kids
attending. Team Website: www.evxteam.org. Many got rides in the ECO's.  The
pits were open and most competitors were happy to explain their vehicles and
design goals.


Thanks to Dan for being my personal chauffeur and picking me up at the
airport. Everywhere we parked the ECO's drew a crowd. Tom, Dan, and Jim
generously gave rides to many curious kids, adults, and parents. Most were
amazed at the level of refinement of this amazing vehicle. I would love to
have one myself.


Tandem class:
X-Tracer (2 vehicles entered) http://www.monotracer.ch/index.php?lang=en
Battery Electric
Very Light Car 4 (Edison 2) Team Website: www.edison2.com  E85
eVaro (6) Team Website: www.futurevehicletechnologies.com   Gasoline (#2 for
stylish)
K-Way MOTUS Team Website: www.k-waymotus.com  Withdrew Gasoline Hybrid
Spira4u Team Website: www.spira4u.com  250cc Gasoline (Low cost Foam car)
Tango T600 (49) Team Website: www.commutercars.com  Tall Battery Electric
TwinSight Team Website: www.team-foursight.com  Eliminated -Battery Electric


Very Fun and educational. - I hope to have a link to some pictures and
videos later this week.

Rick Rys 2006 R1200 GSA



From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 02:32:22 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:32:22 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] An "interesting" K bike
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim7sTiQqBJwh9skf9Yy_e62oiDknu0IlCgUVug0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim7sTiQqBJwh9skf9Yy_e62oiDknu0IlCgUVug0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikp9ydchCsqyPQViER5xU1ScXbdk2Z65frPoFEH@mail.gmail.com>

Quite frankly... My own K75 is as nice as this bike. Maybe nicer.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 02:44:57 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:44:57 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikJLzoYyBYVxYypl4OdOVKjUKZYkXdNMeFNDpKO@mail.gmail.com>

I have a Droid and it makes short work out of the Blackberry I ditched
for it. It is far more intuitive and easier to use. The model I have
is the "Incredible," and I liked it a lot until Friday, when the
mouthpiece/microphone went wonky. (It still works with a headset and I
am returning it on Tuesday.) Leslie (my squeeze) has the iPhone. The
iPhone is a miniature version of an Apple computer, and as such it is
flawless, and provides the most options when linked with an Apple
computer. It's problems as a phone seem to be defined by AT&T service.
In its current form, the Droid is good competition for iPhone.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From wayne at 2zars.com  Mon Jun 28 10:21:55 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:21:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <59sg261ca1f33lt98ttff7hcq05c1ckqk5@4ax.com>



>Wayne, with your Motorola connection, could you make a plug for the
>Droid vs iPhone?
>
>For those of us who still have neither it would be a big help.
>
>Also, I wish I had a reason to buy an iPad.  I don't, but I still want one.

Doug,

Honestly, I can't make a plug for one vs the other.  I think they are
both good products.  Some people like chocolate, some like vanilla.  

Years ago, I knew all the phones and features and which was the best.
I have since lost interest.  I use mine to make an occasional call.
With the advent of smartphones, they are less phones and more
computers.  Mine is primarily used to get email when away from the
office, which is not a good thing.  

I think it's best to decide the features that are critical to you and
make sure the product you buy meets your needs.  Don't neglect to
factor in the cost of the DATA plan. 

I think you hit the nail on the head with the iPad.  I think it's
pretty cool and my wife was asking me when I was going to buy one.  I
responded with "I can't imagine what I'd use it for".  I'd rather buy
a new lens for my camera or save for a higher end camera body.  

Sorry I can't be more help.  

Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From wayne at 2zars.com  Mon Jun 28 10:32:17 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:32:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <tdug26pubr0a9252gcbgcbs0j93kl6tfq6@4ax.com>


>
>Also, I wish I had a reason to buy an iPad.  I don't, but I still want one.

Here, check this link out, 10 Stellar iPad Apps That Will Blow You
Away.  


http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/06/gallery-10-stellar-ipad-apps/all/1
(WS)

Cool, but not motivation to spend the money.


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 12:23:38 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:23:38 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Is the GPS your mistress?
Message-ID: <AANLkTil5SYZwKNGEx2Wg9l0l7oSO9ZzZSGh9a2h9Uf5E@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/27/fashion/27FamilyMatters.html
(WS)

=========
I had fallen for my GPS voice.

And I?m not alone, it turns out. At sites like gpspassion.com and
pdastreet.com, the number of lewd comments about the voices of
American Jill or Australian Karen seem more suited to a convention of
900-number users. A gay couple I know, meanwhile, had the opposite
reaction. They were so turned off by the preinstalled female
navigatrix that they switched her for a man?s voice, because ?we find
the women too judgmental.?
=========

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From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 13:27:31 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:27:31 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
Message-ID: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20100628_5_Harley_riders_die_in_Lancaster_Co__crash.html

-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From rollybrown at verizon.net  Mon Jun 28 13:46:25 2010
From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:46:25 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: iPad [was Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0212B595-3F53-46A9-8A7A-BC76BA779F0B@verizon.net>


On Jun 27, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Doug Raymond wrote:
> Also, I wish I had a reason to buy an iPad.  I don't, but I still want one.

Well, I DID have a reason; knowing that I'd be flat on my back in a hospital bed for what turned out to be a week, followed by a lengthy recovery (currently underway) which also includes lots of bed-time, the iPad seemed like the perfect device to help me keep my questionable sanity, and that has indeed been the case...but if you're thinking about one, know this:

A) It sounds like a total standalone from the ads, but it in fact needs computer support (meaning an UP-TO-DATE OS with iTunes on either Mac or PC platform). You need this before you can even initialize the iPad and get it running. After that, it becomes less important, but still necessary.

B) There are problems with the wireless connection. Apple is working on a firmware fix, but staying connected to wireless network is sometimes iffy, requiring annoying re-entry of WEP #'s, etc.
What I've found is that resetting the network thingy (a 2 click fix) keeps things happy.

C) For another $130, iPad comes with 3G connectivity. One of my main good reasons for getting one, because you CAN BUY 3G TIME AS YOU GO!! You don't need an ongoing account. You can buy a limited (250MB) month for $15, or unlimited for $30. This is great for me, because I don't have any other 3G web access, and I don't have wireless at the office. As a result, I can check email or do routine reference work at the office by switching to 3G, and also have the 3G when I'm on the road, or when the power goes out at home. The iPad will look for wireless first, then go 3G if it can't find wireless, but you can also turn 3G off to prevent unnecessary downloading.

D) Other than that, the iPad is pretty much as advertised; lotsa fun, easy to use, VERY easy to do email and web (although typing isn't quite as easy as a laptop unless you get a bluetooth keyboard), great apps (painting, music keyboard, books, etc). It has quickly become my defacto datebook, address book, etc., and pretty handy with its map app in the car if your GPS goes belly up.

E) See Doug's quote above...do you have a reason? I had two: the hospital thingy and the 3G thingy. No regrets so far.

disclaimer: knowing this would be a lengthy reply, I typed it on the laptop....woulda taken much longer on the iPad...

Cheers,
Rolly, recuperating in Sellersville.

Rolly Brown
Sellersville PA
www.rollybrown.com
www.myspace.com/rollybrown


From ephoet at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 13:52:20 2010
From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:52:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikcuKGxKfU3R95iNTkuY_qiesGv5y2_cAfTkmpa@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:27 AM, edde m <motoedde2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20100628_5_Harley_riders_die_in_Lancaster_Co__crash.html
>
> --
> edde m
> 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
> 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
> Philadelphia, US
> web: motoedde
> _______________________________________________

 More on WGAL TV8  out of Lancaster

 Very sad.

http://www.wgal.com/slideshow/news/24065933/detail.html
http://www.wgal.com/news/24066098/detail.html

Erik

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 14:02:25 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:02:25 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin7HZMY206OUaZReWw_ipXQgBCBWi6FpQx8OGZE@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:27 AM, edde m <motoedde2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20100628_5_Harley_riders_die_in_Lancaster_Co__crash.html
>

Very sad.  The article is very poor, this one does a better job at
trying to explain the accident:
http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/262127

Incredible that all 3 harleys crash into the same van.  Presumably an
oncoming van, but even that is not sure.  Per the above story, the
officer at least tries to figure out how many were wearing helmets,
but some of these were randomly 'strewn' at the scene, IOW, not what
we would call real helmets.

I hope the surviving van driver and other (so far unknown) witnesses
can eventually explain this disaster.   Until then we shouldn't
speculate, but I am betting that side-by-side riding, as popularized
in The Wild Hogs, has something to do with it.

-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 14:17:00 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:17:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <59sg261ca1f33lt98ttff7hcq05c1ckqk5@4ax.com>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
	<59sg261ca1f33lt98ttff7hcq05c1ckqk5@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin0qrMoHRL8NsMOywHgPdBDwPoy5l3R573MI4n_@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Wayne Woodruff <wayne at 2zars.com> wrote:
SNIP>I
> responded with "I can't imagine what I'd use it for". ?I'd rather buy
> a new lens for my camera or save for a higher end camera body.
>
> Sorry I can't be more help.

You and me both...this is what I would love to have(see below)...when
will Nikon come out with a competitive product?

What DSLR's are capable of...
http://vimeo.com/7058755

This is the camera that did the above video...
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?modelid=17662&act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=139



-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 14:18:35 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:18:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin7HZMY206OUaZReWw_ipXQgBCBWi6FpQx8OGZE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin7HZMY206OUaZReWw_ipXQgBCBWi6FpQx8OGZE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimzLMRl28JI6IIG6zPxIf629Mu9ILM6z46CJ1MF@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/28/10, Doug Raymond <douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:27 AM, edde m <motoedde2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20100628_5_Harley_riders_die_in_Lancaster_Co__crash.html
>  >
>
>
> Very sad.  The article is very poor, this one does a better job at
>  trying to explain the accident:
>  http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/262127

Yes, hitting a van on three sides by three bikes is damn trick.

>  speculate, but I am betting that side-by-side riding, as popularized
>  in The Wild Hogs, has something to do with it.

"popularized in 'The Wild Hogs'"...  I dont' think so.  HD riders have
been doing the side by side thing since forever.

There has to be a story in the van driver being in fair condition too.
 I wonder if they were using all available safety equipment.

Sucks all around.

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From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 14:42:17 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:42:17 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <tdug26pubr0a9252gcbgcbs0j93kl6tfq6@4ax.com>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
	<tdug26pubr0a9252gcbgcbs0j93kl6tfq6@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinKn_zVDfmYOr0gnqrcHQZoVHRMuJsAQlrod8ER@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Wayne Woodruff <wayne at 2zars.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Also, I wish I had a reason to buy an iPad. ?I don't, but I still want one.
>
> Here, check this link out, 10 Stellar iPad Apps That Will Blow You
> Away.
>
>
> http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/06/gallery-10-stellar-ipad-apps/all/1
> (WS)
>
> Cool, but not motivation to spend the money.
>

Cool, yes.  But after I said "wow" to each of these 10 apps, I had to
agree with many of the negative comments below the story, to the
effect that hardly anyone "needs" these.  And surprisingly, Wired.com
is singling out these apps as the very best, to help you filter out
the thousands of junk apps out there that make the choices so
difficult.

I'm still stuck.  Each time I look for a good excuse to buy an iPad
the result comes back as a reason to keep waiting...

BTW, my birthday is next April.


-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 14:47:16 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:47:16 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinRIrNSVZaB8ACXiMBI6yciepoxL3blQmFfDN2u@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Esteemed Frienfds and Colleagues:

Regardless of the circumstances, there is a tragedy when fellow riders
go dowm. This is the third big Harely pile-up in a year. Yet while the
details of the other crashes were apparent, this one is a mystery. The
fact that the van got hit on all three sides initially suggests to me
that the driver took a head-on, lost control, swerved, and got hit by
another bike on each side as he either spon or weaved to a stop. I
doubt all three Harley riders were in the wrong lane... My guess is
that the cab/van driver was fucking around with a cell phone and
crossed the line. The report said the road at the scene of the
accident was straight.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 14:50:55 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:50:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: iPad [was Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <0212B595-3F53-46A9-8A7A-BC76BA779F0B@verizon.net>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
	<0212B595-3F53-46A9-8A7A-BC76BA779F0B@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikStglwdgT4m3Dpo4ijnOZEorc5Mtv_eh0YLP4p@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Rolly Brown <rollybrown at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> On Jun 27, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Doug Raymond wrote:
>> Also, I wish I had a reason to buy an iPad. ?I don't, but I still want one.
>
> Well, I DID have a reason; knowing that I'd be flat on my back in a hospital bed for what turned out to be a week, followed by a lengthy recovery (currently underway) which also includes lots of bed-time, the iPad seemed like the perfect device to help me keep my questionable sanity, and that has indeed been the case...
...snip..

Rolly, thanks for first-hand very useful review.
I hope recuperation goes well, and that you will be a foremost iPad
expert when it's over.

Have you used a sheetmusic iPad app for real-time playing?  I used to
dream 20 years ago that there would be such a display/memory device
that would make all the paper scores and their problems
unnecessary-finding the score, storing it, page-turning.  It's hard to
believe that the actual device is beyond my dreams, yet I don't rush
out to buy one.  Maybe I will if I ever settle down to devote some of
the free time to piano practice again (that could be the excuse I
need!).

Paper does allow you to pencil in notes to yourself, but I suppose the
iPad app can even handle this too.
-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 14:53:37 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:53:37 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinKn_zVDfmYOr0gnqrcHQZoVHRMuJsAQlrod8ER@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
	<tdug26pubr0a9252gcbgcbs0j93kl6tfq6@4ax.com>
	<AANLkTinKn_zVDfmYOr0gnqrcHQZoVHRMuJsAQlrod8ER@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikFJuiLQGb-1Ea9J3Yu5DX0MsAPhihEIeMww8ps@mail.gmail.com>

The MacBook Pro is the best reason not to own an iPad.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 14:58:19 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:58:19 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIP Robert C. Byrd...
Message-ID: <AANLkTikzRYJlJ2getBQZolXcg0AQVbz8tC9ZeQm0a2Y6@mail.gmail.com>

Members of the international motorcycle community are mourning the
passing of Robert C. Byrd (November 20, 1917 ? June 28, 2010), a
Democrat and the longest-serving member of the United States Senate.
While many of Byrd?s critics claim he should have authored a cookbook
on pork, motorcycle riders who frequent the majestic and savagely
beautiful byways of West Virginia will forever revere this politician
for providing them with some of the most perfect roads for two-wheeled
travel in the world.

According to Cumberland Times-News, 6/26/10: Sen. Robert C. Byrd's
name appears the most on bridges and highways among individuals - at
least eight times. They include the Robert C. Byrd Expressway and
Robert C. Byrd Bridge in Ohio County; Robert C. Byrd Highway (Corridor
H); Robert C. Byrd Appalachian Highway System (also Corridor H);
Robert C. Byrd Appalachian Highway System (Corridor G/U.S. 119);
Robert C. Byrd Bridge in Huntington; Robert C. Byrd Interchange at
Birch River; Robert C. Byrd Appalachian Highway System (Corridor
L/I-77).

I first became aware of this great man?s contribution to my passion
for motorcycling on a scalding hot summer day. My K75 lumbered through
the mountains of West Virginia as I chugged along, following two-lane
highways through dense forest and small towns ? where my speed was
impeded by deer-infested blind curves and local laws. Towering trees
met in stately green arches high above the pavement, throwing much of
pavement  in green-lined shadow.

Then suddenly, the forest fell away to reveal a six-lane highway, with
pavement as smooth as a pool table?s surface. The road started in the
middle of nowhere and went nowhere. And there was no traffic on it...
Just me, Pete Buchheit, and Clyde Jacobs. We were so shocked that we
pulled over speechless. The moment was broken by the sound of three
BMW engines growling in anger, as we flogged the gear shifters with
unabashed expectation. Sweat vaporized under our mesh gear as
speedometers climbed like stock-tickers in the good old days. The red
lines on our tachs became nothing more than dares, easily taken.

And this experience would occur at least three times in this most holy
state, as expressways to heaven magically appeared and disappeared as
mysteriously as a rabbit in a magician?s hat. There is nothing more
refreshing to a man?s soul, burdened with endless twisties and blind
curves, than perfect pavement defining gracefully sweeping parabolas
and valley-searing straightaways... Especially if that soul is perched
upon a finely-tuned BMW motorcycle.

God bless US Senator Robert C. Byrd and all his works. If you have to
elect a representative as a floating beacon in a sea of whores, you
might as well vote for one who will put his own state first whenever
possible. You could do worse than voting for a man who made sure that
pulled pork dished up by the federal government was pulled in his
state first. West Virginia is not known for being the home to the
Fortune 500 companies (New Jersey), the host state of Silicon Valley
(California), nor the state with the highest per capita income
(Connecticut). But if it is known for having some of the most perfect
and least congested motorcycle-riding roads east of the Mississippi,
than God bless Robert Byrd and his determination to keep the people of
his state working.

In memory of Robert C. Byrd, I am going to have some barbecue (pork of
course) at Jimmy?s in Frazer, at 7pm this Friday, July 2, 2010. The
event will include a presentation titled, ?How Riding With Pete
Buchheit, Dick Bregstein and Clyde Jacobs Kept Me From Getting Laid In
West Virginia ? Despite The Fact I was Riding A Red K75 That Had Women
Hanging On It.?

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From piechota at argolis.org  Mon Jun 28 14:58:20 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:58:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <94b4f.623a88c7.39595b2a@aol.com>
References: <94b4f.623a88c7.39595b2a@aol.com>
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On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 21:55 -0400, Braveirwin at aol.com wrote:
> e-mail and I just stated using Pandora music although I don't think I have  
> much time for that frivolous stuff. I hope to soon start sending photos by  
> e-mail so I can send photos to customers while they arte at work, or  
> insurance companies (after this storm). HTH.  Roddy.   

Don't forget using Google Maps to check traffic and the web to view
weather radar maps.  I'm surprised how much I use that.

There are Android phones for most carriers now (even AT&T).  There are
*lots* on the way too, but most of the newer ones are going to be more
budget minded (since the high-end space is pretty well covered), as well
as the newest-latest-greatest.

There are a couple things to watch out for.  Some manufacturers haven't
been very good about updating to newer versions of Android OS, which
means some apps may not work (but the Android Market hides apps that are
incompatible, so you don't know what you're missing :) ).  HTC has been
kinda mediocre about this.  They made significant changes to the GUI on
the phone, so when Google releases a new version it takes them awhile to
update.  Many of the early HTC phones have missed a couple OS versions.
Motorola has been pretty good with Droid updates thus far.  There's a
new Motorola Droid X on the horizon (July 15th), so it'll become
interesting to see if the Droid-classic updates stop since it's not the
'flagship' any more.  I hope not!

The other thing since Android OS is something of a baseline, companies
can add and remove stuff.  As mentioned, HTC has modified the GUI quite
a bit.  I have a development phone at work that doesn't have the Market
at all, which would make the device far less useful for the general
user.

I'm really happy with my phone.  It does everything that an iPhone does
(even the 4) but I have a little more control over my device.

One note: there is a "kill switch" in the Android Market where Google
can remove apps, it was just exercised for the first time the other day
for a couple apps that misrepresented themselves (although they weren't
malevolent).  So far, Google has been far less capricious about pulling
stuff.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/google-flexes-biceps-flicks-android-remote-kill-switch-for-the/



From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 14:59:59 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:59:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinKn_zVDfmYOr0gnqrcHQZoVHRMuJsAQlrod8ER@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
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> I'm still stuck. ?Each time I look for a good excuse to buy an iPad
> the result comes back as a reason to keep waiting...
>
> BTW, my birthday is next April.
-
> Doug Raymond

Doug,

Hope your recovery is quick (I forgot I had had hip surgery at
Michigan and suddenly was like my old self again) as mine has been (or
quicker).

Dano

From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 15:16:33 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:16:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Supreme Court on Local Gun Rights Restrictions
Message-ID: <AANLkTimP88hJ0J4FU02Evc5oe7sgcf2tIYKRviPRKwde@mail.gmail.com>

Thought some might find this interesting...
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/06/28/us/AP-US-SupremeCourt-Guns.html?_r=1&hp


-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 15:20:32 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:20:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIP Robert C. Byrd...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikzRYJlJ2getBQZolXcg0AQVbz8tC9ZeQm0a2Y6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikzRYJlJ2getBQZolXcg0AQVbz8tC9ZeQm0a2Y6@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Members of the international motorcycle community are mourning the
> passing of Robert C. Byrd (November 20, 1917 ? June 28, 2010), a
> Democrat and the longest-serving member of the United States Senate.
> While many of Byrd?s critics claim he should have authored a cookbook
> on pork, motorcycle riders who frequent the majestic and savagely
> beautiful byways of West Virginia will forever revere this politician
> for providing them with some of the most perfect roads for two-wheeled
> travel in the world.


I second that emotion Jack.

Riding home from Detroit, I looked down on Pilot Mountain (a mesa like
outcropping of rock that is quite tall, you can see Winston Salem NC
from the top of it 40 miles away) and I am looking down on it like
from a 747, while running a very high mountain on I-77 South. Surreal.
Surreal.

By the way, "Mount Pilot" (fictional city near Mayberry) from the Andy
Griffith show was code for Pilot Mountain.

Dano

From piechota at argolis.org  Mon Jun 28 15:21:41 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:21:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIP Robert C. Byrd...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikzRYJlJ2getBQZolXcg0AQVbz8tC9ZeQm0a2Y6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikzRYJlJ2getBQZolXcg0AQVbz8tC9ZeQm0a2Y6@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 10:58 -0400, Jack Riepe wrote:

> And this experience would occur at least three times in this most holy
> state, as expressways to heaven magically appeared and disappeared as
> mysteriously as a rabbit in a magician?s hat. There is nothing more
> refreshing to a man?s soul, burdened with endless twisties and blind
> curves, than perfect pavement defining gracefully sweeping parabolas
> and valley-searing straightaways... Especially if that soul is perched
> upon a finely-tuned BMW motorcycle.

I wonder how awesome the original roads were before they ruined them
with slab. :)




From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 15:30:23 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:30:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIP Robert C. Byrd...
In-Reply-To: <1277738501.4372.33.camel@easter-bunny.pa.argolis.org>
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>
> I wonder how awesome the original roads were before they ruined them
> with slab. :)

If you haven't tried slab I-77, you should.

It is the most entertaining road I know of (including all secondary
roads I have run).

Dano

From William.Rompala at kantarmedia.com  Mon Jun 28 15:32:01 2010
From: William.Rompala at kantarmedia.com (William Rompala)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:32:01 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
Message-ID: <91378982C2FC5F4982C0B2AD8454FDCD01A4BB6B@EXCHANGESTORE.TNSMI-EX1.Local>


Doug, et al: 

If it helps at all, I was an ipad skeptic at first... And now, I am a huge fan. 

I just traveled to france for a week- didn't use the notebook computer. The ipad provided all I needed, on the plane with movies/tv shows I had on it. Email and web browsing. 

At home, I never boot up the home computer- the ipad is my instant on goto device. 

At the office, I use it for email (exchange integrated with email and calendar) and note taking. 

I even manipulate photos and watermark them for my blog- heck, I blog from the ipad and administer my hosted wordpress account.  

(Oblig plug: http://www.suburbanbeekeeper.com )

For the record, I have the 64gb model with 3g. 

I can provide more info if requested- the international cell data plan was a bit quirky but worked fine. 

Regards, 

Will
(Feels weird to still lurk here, sold the 84 bmw r80rt  a few years ago and got a 82 silverwing..  Pls don't mock too much :). )

 
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From piechota at argolis.org  Mon Jun 28 15:40:16 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:40:16 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
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On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 10:42 -0400, Doug Raymond wrote:

> 
> Cool, yes.  But after I said "wow" to each of these 10 apps, I had to
> agree with many of the negative comments below the story, to the
> effect that hardly anyone "needs" these.  And surprisingly, Wired.com
> is singling out these apps as the very best, to help you filter out
> the thousands of junk apps out there that make the choices so
> difficult.

Top apps for Android, that I don't think I could do without now that I'm
spoiled:
- Google Maps, which includes traffic and navigation.  I used maps a
couple times the other day when I was lost.  It doesn't work without a
data signal though, user beware!  (supposedly there's a download maps
option in the works, but unknown if it'll come to light).  The
Navigation is pretty basic, but it'll get you were you want to go.
- Weather app, I had been using iMap Weather app, but it was pretty
slow, even over wifi.  It was slick: it'll pop up a google maps-style
map and overlay temperature, lightning strikes, and rain radar.  I've
been using accuweather.com now, which you can create a bookmark on the
phone's home screen for easy access.
- Email: the email app isn't tthat great, but it's nice to be able to
waste time catching up on mac-pac emails during down times without a PC.
- Calendar: the calendar syncs with google calendar so you can add
appoints in either place and the sync up.  I've never been so
organized. :)  There's a MS Exchange calendar tool too, but I don't use
it.
- Gstrings: No, Jack, it's not what you think.  It's a pretty good
guitar (and other instrument) tuner.  I did my acoustic on it, and it
sounds right to me.

> I'm still stuck.  Each time I look for a good excuse to buy an iPad
> the result comes back as a reason to keep waiting...

There are Android tablets on the way too.  iPad will probably still the
sexy choice, but the Android devices will probably do nearly as much for
less.  There's also the new Dell smart-phone thing coming, which is
something of a 'tweener' with a 5" (and 7" coming, apparently) screen.
the 10" iPad seems to big to be practical, but 5" can still fit in a
pocket.
http://www.tgdaily.com/opinion-features/48567-the-dell-mini-5-vs-the-apple-ipad
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/dell-mini-5-we-have-it/



From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 15:50:18 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:50:18 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Supreme Court on Local Gun Rights Restrictions
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimP88hJ0J4FU02Evc5oe7sgcf2tIYKRviPRKwde@mail.gmail.com>
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On 6/28/10, edde m <motoedde2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thought some might find this interesting...
>  http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/06/28/us/AP-US-SupremeCourt-Guns.html?_r=1&hp

It is.  I am currently reading a history of what went on 1774 to 1776.

This part of the article is interesting:
==============
Still, Alito noted that the declaration that the Second Amendment is
fully binding on states and cities "limits (but by no means
eliminates) their ability to devise solutions to social problems that
suit local needs and values."
==============

The local folks at that time DEFINITELY devised solutions to the
social problems of the time.  Riding the wooden horse:
http://www.theoriginalinstitute.com/wooden_horse.htm  (Googling I
found there are "other" uses and the URL might go to not great places
in some environments)  Puts a whole new spin on just what "cruel and
unusual punishment" is.

The local towns did devise means to address the problems of the time.

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From piechota at argolis.org  Mon Jun 28 15:54:04 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:54:04 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimzLMRl28JI6IIG6zPxIf629Mu9ILM6z46CJ1MF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 10:18 -0400, Brian Curry wrote:
> >  speculate, but I am betting that side-by-side riding, as popularized
> >  in The Wild Hogs, has something to do with it.
> 
> "popularized in 'The Wild Hogs'"...  I dont' think so.  HD riders have
> been doing the side by side thing since forever.

s/Hogs/One/   :)

I'm wondering if there were two groups of bikes.  That's the best
explanation I can think of.  Two bikes hit the van in the front and one
side (as the van swerved), and the other bike coming from behind  the
van hit the other side.

Seems to be an epidemic, there's a bunch of fatal bike accidents in the
Buffalo paper today.  Most are 'suspicious' to me, being between
midnight and 5am and middle-aged men.  I hate to jump to conclusions,
but heading home from the bar seems likely.

Sad either way...


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 16:00:26 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:00:26 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIP Robert C. Byrd...
In-Reply-To: <1277738501.4372.33.camel@easter-bunny.pa.argolis.org>
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On 6/28/10, Matt Piechota <piechota at argolis.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 10:58 -0400, Jack Riepe wrote:
>
>  > And this experience would occur at least three times in this most holy
>  > state, as expressways to heaven magically appeared and disappeared as
>  > mysteriously as a rabbit in a magician?s hat. There is nothing more
>  > refreshing to a man?s soul, burdened with endless twisties and blind
>  > curves, than perfect pavement defining gracefully sweeping parabolas
>  > and valley-searing straightaways... Especially if that soul is perched
>  > upon a finely-tuned BMW motorcycle.
>
>
> I wonder how awesome the original roads were before they ruined them
>  with slab. :)

Ride Rt 30 from Philly to Pittsburgh.  Check the detailed maps cause
in a lot of places it has been "bypassed" with a more gentle road.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.921059,-77.961731&spn=0.123226,0.207024&z=12

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.039838,-78.765793&spn=0.061506,0.103512&t=p&z=13

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.188316,-79.161301&spn=0.245488,0.414047&t=p&z=11

As you go over them think of doing it with a wagon, team of horses,
and a thunderstorm comes up....

Those men were MEN.

Even around here.  Go up on the edges of the Great Valley, look out
and think of that all filled with trees and no roads.  Those people
had VISION.

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From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 16:16:32 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:16:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIP Robert C. Byrd...
In-Reply-To: <1277738501.4372.33.camel@easter-bunny.pa.argolis.org>
References: <AANLkTikzRYJlJ2getBQZolXcg0AQVbz8tC9ZeQm0a2Y6@mail.gmail.com>
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Dear Matt:

You are a friggin' road snob. The Robert C. Byrd highways to
motorcycle heaven are not like typical slab interstates. There was
vitually no traffic, and truck traffic was almost non-existent. They
were scenic. They were inspiring. They were easy on the tires. And you
could hit three digits on the speedo in a blink of an eye, like three
lawless pricks I know. And if you were crippled by hip-clap, like I
am, you'd love the opportunity to make up time when many of the other
parallel routes would baffle a donkey.

Did you feel better throwing that line in my face?


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 16:16:25 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:16:25 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikWUhZKsXNSUkRXP9-nLbR6GuaSEGbQdo4Qdjoe@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:
...snip...

> Doug,
>
> Hope your recovery is quick...
...snip...

Correction: Dan's wishes were meant for Rolly, not me.

-- 
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Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 16:45:45 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:45:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <91378982C2FC5F4982C0B2AD8454FDCD01A4BB6B@EXCHANGESTORE.TNSMI-EX1.Local>
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On 6/28/10, William Rompala <William.Rompala at kantarmedia.com> wrote:
>
>  Will
>  (Feels weird to still lurk here, sold the 84 bmw r80rt  a few years ago and got a 82 silverwing..  Pls don't mock too much :). )

We are BMW centric, but NOT BMW exclusive.  Thankfully.  The
Silverwings are interesting.
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From david.hardgrove at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 17:16:06 2010
From: david.hardgrove at gmail.com (David Hardgrove)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:16:06 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
Message-ID: <AANLkTikUfiXg8UCYkRVOHP9u5AVOhgLCgb-DiEz-hR5s@mail.gmail.com>

I picked uo a '99 Funduro with Givi bags a few weeks back and use it
mostly as a commuter.  Question for the technically savvy.

I am getting about 48 mpg as a commuter and 51-52 mpg on the highway.
The previous owner was getting 58-60 mpg.  I used to have a '97
Funduro and got up to 60 mpg as well.  The bike has been fully
serviced by Hermy's at the time of title transfer, as it sat in a
garage for 4 years prior to my purchase.  It has 8100 miles on it now,
and I've put about 1100 mi on it.

Any suggestions why I am getting significantly lower than expected gas mileage?

David

From mrmevans at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 17:24:08 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:24:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikUfiXg8UCYkRVOHP9u5AVOhgLCgb-DiEz-hR5s@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikUfiXg8UCYkRVOHP9u5AVOhgLCgb-DiEz-hR5s@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:16 PM, David Hardgrove
<david.hardgrove at gmail.com> asked:
>
> Any suggestions why I am getting significantly lower than expected gas mileage?
>

David,

Since the time you owned the older bike and now, has there been any
dramatic increase in frontal area or loaded bike weight?

These questions have to be asked - after all, this is the list for the
EATING and Wrenching Society.

;^)

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From 321design at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 17:26:35 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:26:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> Wayne, with your Motorola connection, could you make a plug for the
> Droid vs iPhone?
>
> For those of us who still have neither it would be a big help.


article today in ZDNet might be helpful entitled "An iPhone wish list
looks more like an Android feature list"

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/an-iphone-wish-list-looks-more-like-an-android-feature-list/36332?tag=nl.e539


-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 17:37:41 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:37:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] You thought the Centralia Ride Was Bizarre?
Message-ID: <AANLkTilE6lNn9MOieCuPequkCeC_PpXXSjMqkR6kIxQu@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues:

Some of you will recall the "Great Centralia Ride," on which occasion
the cognoscenti of the Mac Pac rode to remains of that poor,
unfortunate city, and cooked their lunches in a fire-blasted crevice
on Route 61, still heated by raging fires many feet under the scorched
earth. That story was something of a success: because it was original,
slightly insane, and a perversion of science ? which lent itself to a
motorcycle ride.

Quite by accident today, Brian Curry posted some tripe to the list
that had two words that caught my eye. Further examination, and
minimal research, revealed a place that has the kind of potential for
a ride that would be on the Centralia scale for scientific buffoonery,
but one that could generate exquisite humor. It is the sort of trip
that engineers can get a hard-on thinking about. However, it is in the
middle of nowhere. It is a town by the thinnest definition only. There
isn't even a vending machine in this place. And it is at the farthest
reach of my current arthritis endurance. That means I would need two
days to get there and back. The distance is such that many of you
could easily do this in three hours, only breaking the law marginally.
I would have to stop three or four times, which would make this a four
to five hour run: one way. And because my arthritis does not reset to
zero, the ride back the second day could take even longer.

Now I am planning to do this ride when it gets a little cooler. I am
also planning to take the slab, while another group of bikes could
take a far more scenic route. So if I left two hours ahead of everyone
else, we might all get there at the same time. I would then look to
find the nearest hotel and crash for the night, after the pictures
were taken. The run would be about 400 miles round-trip.
This ride will require some device for measuring a magnetic field, lab
coats for the participants, a huge inflatable beach ball, and a timing
device. If anyone has one of those little radio-controlled motorcycle
riders that would be usefull too. Also, if any of you has been
abducted by an alien space ship, your participation on this run could
only bolster our credibility.

This trip may require the assistance of local authorities, so I will
be getting details from journalist friends of mine who have some
experience with this sort of thing.

I am being very vague about some crucial details as I am protecting
the bizarre integrity of this story. If you have guessed (or think you
have guessed) the destination and the purpose, please contact me
offline. I was hoping to get at least ten riders, who might want to
plan something else while we are out there.

I regret to report that the arhritis is now in my back, my left
shoulder and my left hand, as well as both hips and knees. So I can
have really bad days. But I am not yet ready to throw in the towel.
For the record, there are days when sitting in my office chair is
tough.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 28 17:42:13 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:42:13 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
Message-ID: <28421695.1277746934104.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>
>I picked uo a '99 Funduro with Givi bags a few weeks back and use it
>mostly as a commuter.  Question for the technically savvy.
>
>I am getting about 48 mpg as a commuter and 51-52 mpg on the highway.
>The previous owner was getting 58-60 mpg.  I used to have a '97
>Funduro and got up to 60 mpg as well.  The bike has been fully
>serviced by Hermy's at the time of title transfer, as it sat in a
>garage for 4 years prior to my purchase.  It has 8100 miles on it now,
>and I've put about 1100 mi on it.
>
>Any suggestions why I am getting significantly lower than expected gas mileage?
>
>David

Sounds like a nice bike .. 

Tire pressure ??
Air Filter ??

either or both will impact gas mileage and both are easy to check

Hope this helps

Jim

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 18:04:34 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:04:34 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikUfiXg8UCYkRVOHP9u5AVOhgLCgb-DiEz-hR5s@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikUfiXg8UCYkRVOHP9u5AVOhgLCgb-DiEz-hR5s@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikqMi2qNnlcWQEua61glvw1NZtLFpjVCKUKPA7Z@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/28/10, David Hardgrove <david.hardgrove at gmail.com> wrote:
> I picked uo a '99 Funduro with Givi bags a few weeks back and use it

>  Funduro and got up to 60 mpg as well.  The bike has been fully
>  serviced by Hermy's at the time of title transfer, as it sat in a
>  garage for 4 years prior to my purchase.  It has 8100 miles on it now,

Is this one of the carbed F650's?  If so, I wonder if you/it have
plugged up jets in the carb.  Even with a "full service".  I am not
sure such would include a carb cleaning as SOP.

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From mmehalik at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 18:23:42 2010
From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:23:42 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikqMi2qNnlcWQEua61glvw1NZtLFpjVCKUKPA7Z@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikUfiXg8UCYkRVOHP9u5AVOhgLCgb-DiEz-hR5s@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikqMi2qNnlcWQEua61glvw1NZtLFpjVCKUKPA7Z@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilg7yPFWXgNNUILmF60Hifayc8JEPQ7l5dCkfgZ@mail.gmail.com>

FYI all of the 'Funduros' (F650) and F650STs(I'm not sure what their
stupid marketing name was) are carbed.
The GS, CS, and Dakar are injected.



f650.com might lend some answers. here's a FAQ for classic F650s
(Carbed): http://faq.f650.com/FAQs/Poor_Mileage_FAQ.htm

Here's the 'front page' of the FAQ section. FWIW I've used the f650cs
related FAQs extensively for my scarver(f650cs):
http://faq.f650.com/main.html

It's on the internet, so you know it's true (actually these people are
generally pretty good).

-mark


> Is this one of the carbed F650's? ?If so, I wonder if you/it have
> plugged up jets in the carb. ?Even with a "full service". ?I am not
> sure such would include a carb cleaning as SOP.

From david.hardgrove at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 18:53:52 2010
From: david.hardgrove at gmail.com (David Hardgrove)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:53:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <28421695.1277746934104.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <28421695.1277746934104.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTincm1ofr0Gkp9lpB9Rym30VH2RDcalnHoVL1Qqe@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

I am up to about 38 psig on the tires.  There are new Metler Tourances
on the bike.  Hermy did empty the tank and clean the carbs.  I did
think the idle was set too high at 1500 rpm, so I cut it to ~1300 -
1400 rpm.

I wonder if K&N makes an air filter for this.  Any further suggestions?

David
>
> Tire pressure ??
> Air Filter ??
>
> either or both will impact gas mileage and both are easy to check
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Jim
>
> James Sterling III
> Ride Safe
> <jasiii at earthlink.net>
> '96 R1100RS Red of course
> MOA 124289
> RA ?31244
> AMA 808881
>
>

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 19:13:44 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:13:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTincm1ofr0Gkp9lpB9Rym30VH2RDcalnHoVL1Qqe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <28421695.1277746934104.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<AANLkTincm1ofr0Gkp9lpB9Rym30VH2RDcalnHoVL1Qqe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikI8pwvE51hI5zhzMaI51J0e-xZ368BGtiYJPUR@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/28/10, David Hardgrove <david.hardgrove at gmail.com> wrote:

>  I wonder if K&N makes an air filter for this.  Any further suggestions?

DO NOT even think it if you value the engine at all.  BMW oversizes
the AFs regularly and the K&N just suck HUGELY.

I have not tested an F650 but I am darn sure that any air restriction
is "somewhere else" and NOT the AF.

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From mmehalik at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 19:33:21 2010
From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:33:21 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikI8pwvE51hI5zhzMaI51J0e-xZ368BGtiYJPUR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <28421695.1277746934104.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<AANLkTincm1ofr0Gkp9lpB9Rym30VH2RDcalnHoVL1Qqe@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikI8pwvE51hI5zhzMaI51J0e-xZ368BGtiYJPUR@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinHkOpYrGSPxqpNJx_zcjnfhQzsgDt4JU97GAkA@mail.gmail.com>

Agreed, although less emphatically. The air filter is HUGE for that
bike, take it out, you'll see. You'll also be able to readily see if
it's clogged. It's under the seat, and easy to remove. If you find it
hard to remove, or end up taking out a ton of screws, you're doing it
wrong. I don't remember the details, but I think it's only one screw,
that wasn't apparent to me to remove it. IIRC stock replacements are
like $12 (It's been quite a few beers since I worked on one).

That being said, if it needs replacement, I think they do make one,
and it is washable. I replaced my K12's filters with BMCs, but only
because they're washable.

You also might want to look at the plugs, I replaced my scarver's plug
with an iridium one, and there was definitely an improvement. F650.com
should also have crosses for iridium and platinum plugs. By the way,
you have 2 plugs, and all the tools you need to replace it in the
bikes original toolkit.

-mark

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/28/10, David Hardgrove <david.hardgrove at gmail.com> wrote:

> DO NOT even think it if you value the engine at all. ?BMW oversizes
> the AFs regularly and the K&N just suck HUGELY.
>
> I have not tested an F650 but I am darn sure that any air restriction
> is "somewhere else" and NOT the AF.

From Doug at pencader.com  Mon Jun 28 20:18:40 2010
From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:18:40 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] FW:  You thought the Centralia Ride Was Bizarre?
Message-ID: <013701cb16ff$1b793170$526b9450$@com>


Jack wrote,

>>> snips

> Some of you will recall the "Great Centralia Ride," 

>>> snips

> That story was something of a success: because it was original,
> slightly insane, and a perversion of science - which lent itself to a
> motorcycle ride.

>>> major snippage

> This ride will require some device for measuring a magnetic field, lab
> coats for the participants, a huge inflatable beach ball, and a timing
> device. If anyone has one of those little radio-controlled motorcycle
> riders that would be usefull too. Also, if any of you has been
> abducted by an alien space ship, your participation on this run could
> only bolster our credibility.

>>> snips

> But I am not yet ready to throw in the towel. For the record, there are
days 
> when sitting in my office chair is tough.


>>> end

Jack,

Hey - very sorry to hear of your infirmities. But, in an effort to brighten
your day, let me suggest an official Theme Song for your foray, whaddaya
say? The perfect song/video for this transportational travesty is Thomas
Dolby's "She Blinded Me With Science"!. Not only is it a classic bit of rock
'n roll, the video has MOTO CONTENT (!!), several scientific types that bear
a strange resemblance to the spoon meister, and a sexy secretary . . .
something for everyone!

Check it out; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V83JR2IoI8k

Hope you're feeling better soon, Jack.

Doug
'01 1150 GSP
Bear, DE

PS; you should start a regimen of tart cherry juice concentrate to ease the
swelling of your joints (no, not that one).


From jasiii at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 28 20:47:08 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:47:08 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
Message-ID: <6598526.1277758030518.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>
>I wonder if K&N makes an air filter for this.  Any further suggestions?
>
>David
>>
>> Tire pressure ??
>> Air Filter ??
>>
>> either or both will impact gas mileage and both are easy to check
>>

Please stay away from K&N... unless you are racing and super fine tuning the carbs/fuel injector's.. 
They suck for the street.. for racing they are OK if you know how to turn the jets/settings but not on the street..

OK.. what color are the plugs ?? tan ?? black ?? you want white/tan..  black is too rich..
What is the gap on the plugs ?? check the book for the proper settings 

I am now at the bottom on my ideas.. 

Good luck

Jim



James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From 321design at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 22:35:10 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:35:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] How to violate a jaguar at 60MPH
Message-ID: <AANLkTikp92Hf49l8gJQ5aUkUPQZt1hOezIqdf8KsfH0V@mail.gmail.com>

My mind just works that way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzg0rcMvypM&feature=player_embedded#!



-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 22:50:56 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:50:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <6598526.1277758030518.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <6598526.1277758030518.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikxYwm9oNoNOC_qfrDLf1ggOqz9bHbURGA1q1BS@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/28/10, Jim Sterling <jasiii at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Please stay away from K&N... unless you are racing and super fine tuning the carbs/fuel injector's..
>  They suck for the street.. for racing they are OK if you know how to turn the jets/settings but not on the street..

And expect to be doing regular engine rebuilds to address the
additional wear issues.  Race engines are not expected to last long.
Just "long enough"  Most "riding engines" folks want to be riding and
not rebuilding.

That applies to ANY "washable" filter.  Which are good if you are
expecting that the bike may go underwater, and you don't want a sodden
mass of paper fouling the air inlet path.  Leave that to trained
professionals like Earle.  Who replaced the bike after doing that.

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From rogers.george at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 22:43:48 2010
From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:43:48 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: iPad
Message-ID: <AANLkTilkbGYJ88YppU_G6-m8yFqTQppkPTyiopwPdv8S@mail.gmail.com>

I gotta plug the device I got. It's an enTourage eDGe. (yeah, dumb
orthography) Has two iPad-size screens, one LCD, one e-ink. Two USB
ports, wi-fi (solid, no glitches so far), runs Android. SD card slot,
too. And stereo speakers in the hinge, and headphone/microphone jacks.
Oh yes--a camera. Good battery life. The on-screen keyboard is okay,
but I got a Fellowes USB keyboard ($35) that folds up to the size of
two decks of cards that works slick. Price: $500.

No, it doesn't run iPad apps, and it's getting regular ROM upgrades,
(IOW it's not as slick as an apple product) but it meets my needs.

Best wishes,
Rogers George
http://writing-rag.com
http://rogersgeorge.com
http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com  <---several recent updates,
including two scheduled for the next two days.



On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Rolly Brown <rollybrown at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Doug Raymond wrote:
>>> Also, I wish I had a reason to buy an iPad. ?I don't, but I still want one.
>>
>> Well, I DID have a reason; knowing that I'd be flat on my back in a hospital bed for what turned out to be a week, followed by a lengthy recovery (currently underway) which also includes lots of bed-time, the iPad seemed like the perfect device to help me keep my questionable sanity, and that has indeed been the case...
...

From rsorens at comcast.net  Mon Jun 28 23:12:32 2010
From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:12:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIP Robert C. Byrd...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimATd6QA34KTqjpjxsUcmsS-Od33atXfcxvHYK4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FC13B17AF4AC44CBAC5B15A359280D7B@Tekki>

YUP, these 2 stretches of road are one of my favorites!

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.039838,-78.765793&spn=0.061506,0.10351
2&t=p&z=13

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.188316,-79.161301&spn=0.245488,0.41404
7&t=p&z=11

Running down the stretch to Ligonier was especially fun during the Tour of
Pennsylvania....in the rain....with racers bearing down your back....with
the PASP 'donut mobil' inching down.....in a rainy thunderstorm.....


From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 00:05:59 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:05:59 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikUfiXg8UCYkRVOHP9u5AVOhgLCgb-DiEz-hR5s@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikUfiXg8UCYkRVOHP9u5AVOhgLCgb-DiEz-hR5s@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimCRyZB9YaSY3vgw3yRfR4gxB_51Jd-U3y0zoIG@mail.gmail.com>

I hate to kiss Tom Cutter's ass publicly, but he raised this point at
one time. So what if you save $25 on a filter, and damage the engine
in the process by using a non-specific part for the bike. What did you
accomplish in the long run? This is why I still use BMW condoms.



-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 00:12:01 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:12:01 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] How to violate a jaguar at 60MPH
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikp92Hf49l8gJQ5aUkUPQZt1hOezIqdf8KsfH0V@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikp92Hf49l8gJQ5aUkUPQZt1hOezIqdf8KsfH0V@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinRcpZJ0ubz0hbZD8Q9W_l5xYVr_aaxgjyXyiAr@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Rob:

I'm about to order one of these as the seating position looks very
comfortable... The optional tool bag is designed to look like a chimp
and it attaches to the Jaguar's mouth.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From rollybrown at verizon.net  Mon Jun 28 22:41:16 2010
From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:41:16 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: iPad [was Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikStglwdgT4m3Dpo4ijnOZEorc5Mtv_eh0YLP4p@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
	<0212B595-3F53-46A9-8A7A-BC76BA779F0B@verizon.net>
	<AANLkTikStglwdgT4m3Dpo4ijnOZEorc5Mtv_eh0YLP4p@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <26CC0A42-2476-4106-A63C-858F3F8E167B@verizon.net>

On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Doug Raymond <douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:

> Have you used a sheetmusic iPad app for real-time playing?  I used to
> dream 20 years ago that there would be such a display/memory device
> that would make all the paper scores and their problems
> unnecessary-finding the score, storing it, page-turning.

i haven't used an app like that, but i do have the "iRealBook", which is a "fakebook" with the chord progressions for about 900 jazz tunes. very cool, too because you can instantly transpose a progression to any key, and you can input more tunes as well.

>  It's hard to
> believe that the actual device is beyond my dreams, yet I don't rush
> out to buy one.  Maybe I will if I ever settle down to devote some of
> the free time to piano practice again (that could be the excuse I
> need!).

yup, maybe...i think i'll go check the app store for some Bach studies for sight reading...
> 
> Paper does allow you to pencil in notes to yourself, but I suppose the
> iPad app can even handle this too.

i'd imagine so...

cheers,
rol, from the iPad

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 01:22:10 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:22:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <1277740444.4372.58.camel@easter-bunny.pa.argolis.org>
References: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin7HZMY206OUaZReWw_ipXQgBCBWi6FpQx8OGZE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimzLMRl28JI6IIG6zPxIf629Mu9ILM6z46CJ1MF@mail.gmail.com>
	<1277740444.4372.58.camel@easter-bunny.pa.argolis.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinnzm_1trCwp4nq2uisAYVL_hOFu8_VC-gtZgTy@mail.gmail.com>

> Seems to be an epidemic, there's a bunch of fatal bike accidents in the
> Buffalo paper today. ?Most are 'suspicious' to me, being between
> midnight and 5am and middle-aged men. ?I hate to jump to conclusions,
> but heading home from the bar seems likely.
>
> Sad either way...


This type of event is the saddest part of my 36 year career as
Motorcycle Tech.

Saw my first one at age 15.  Two very talented riders (had just won
the dirt drags on dressers) got too much purple passion in them. Were
running wide open side by side, with passenger girls, into the front
and rear door of a Plymouth station wagon that turned in front of
their path.  They lived, but were never the same.

The destruction to each member of their family who loved them and
depended on them is beyond belief.

You can't help but look at how much safer car accidents have become.

Why can't we do that?

Dano

From 321design at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 01:24:44 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:24:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nice 1972 75/5 toaster in Easton
Message-ID: <AANLkTimNquNqW1FvFT7fBuKNqeLLUx2gC4CwH9d5eKEm@mail.gmail.com>

Pretty, even down to the tool kit

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/1814932990.html

-- 
Rob Haut
West Chester PA
'05 Rockster
'61 FC-170DRW

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Tue Jun 29 01:51:32 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:51:32 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinnzm_1trCwp4nq2uisAYVL_hOFu8_VC-gtZgTy@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTin7HZMY206OUaZReWw_ipXQgBCBWi6FpQx8OGZE@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTimzLMRl28JI6IIG6zPxIf629Mu9ILM6z46CJ1MF@mail.gmail.com>	<1277740444.4372.58.camel@easter-bunny.pa.argolis.org>
	<AANLkTinnzm_1trCwp4nq2uisAYVL_hOFu8_VC-gtZgTy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C2951A4.9040407@ptd.net>

Dan Whitfield wrote:
>> Seems to be an epidemic, there's a bunch of fatal bike accidents in the
>> Buffalo paper today.  Most are 'suspicious' to me, being between
>> midnight and 5am and middle-aged men.  I hate to jump to conclusions,
>> but heading home from the bar seems likely.
>>
>> Sad either way...
>>     
>
>
> This type of event is the saddest part of my 36 year career as
> Motorcycle Tech.
>
> Saw my first one at age 15.  Two very talented riders (had just won
> the dirt drags on dressers) got too much purple passion in them. Were
> running wide open side by side, with passenger girls, into the front
> and rear door of a Plymouth station wagon that turned in front of
> their path.  They lived, but were never the same.
>
> The destruction to each member of their family who loved them and
> depended on them is beyond belief.
>
> You can't help but look at how much safer car accidents have become.
>
> Why can't we do that?
>   

Honda did.......get a Gold Wing with an Airbag.

Chris Jaccarino

From david.hardgrove at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 01:43:54 2010
From: david.hardgrove at gmail.com (David)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:43:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxYwm9oNoNOC_qfrDLf1ggOqz9bHbURGA1q1BS@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6598526.1277758030518.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<AANLkTikxYwm9oNoNOC_qfrDLf1ggOqz9bHbURGA1q1BS@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3DBD228D-2A2D-43C4-AC69-46F00308A98E@gmail.com>

Well, K&N is out.

I took out the stock air filter tonite.  How do you determine if it's dirty.  The oil in it seems clean.

Any other ideas on why the mpg's are lower than expected?

David

Sent from my iPhone


From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Tue Jun 29 01:59:38 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:59:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] You thought the Centralia Ride Was Bizarre?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilE6lNn9MOieCuPequkCeC_PpXXSjMqkR6kIxQu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5594055.116867.1277776778719.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>


Jack, Count me in, I own a lab coat and have access to all sorts of scientific equipment which I could borrow for the weekend easily. I also own "She Blinded Me With Science", and many "They Might Be Giants" CDs, which are required listening for geeky science teachers.


John Clauss
K1100RS
R75/6 

From rys at R2Controls.com  Tue Jun 29 02:04:47 2010
From: rys at R2Controls.com (Rick Rys)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:04:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] X-tracer MPGe in the lead.
In-Reply-To: <4C2951A4.9040407@ptd.net>
References: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTin7HZMY206OUaZReWw_ipXQgBCBWi6FpQx8OGZE@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTimzLMRl28JI6IIG6zPxIf629Mu9ILM6z46CJ1MF@mail.gmail.com>	<1277740444.4372.58.camel@easter-bunny.pa.argolis.org>	<AANLkTinnzm_1trCwp4nq2uisAYVL_hOFu8_VC-gtZgTy@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C2951A4.9040407@ptd.net>
Message-ID: <005f01cb172f$737e4d30$5a7ae790$@com>

I've yet to figure out how to get the X-Prize web site to display meaningful
comparisons, but Peraves posted the standings:
http://peraves.wordpress.com/
Spira - 75.4 MPGe
Tango - 86.8 MPGe
Edison2 #95 - 90.6 MPGe
FVT -129.8 MPGe
X-Tracer #79 - 171.6 MPGe
X-Tracer #72 - 180.0 MPGe

Also here are a few video clips on U-Tube:
Tom in Eco driving kids around:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L_1uTzUoCc

E-tracer on X-Prize Highway run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meLpZn75q3k

E-tracer leaving the pits for the track:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esMlZnyVk5E

Hope this works OK as I am a bit new to posting on U-tube, 

Rick Rys 2006 R1200 GSA


From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net  Tue Jun 29 02:05:37 2010
From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss))
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 02:05:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikUfiXg8UCYkRVOHP9u5AVOhgLCgb-DiEz-hR5s@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1236281394.117089.1277777137713.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Hardgrove" <david.hardgrove at gmail.com> 
To: "mac-Pac" <mac-pac-l at jtan.com> 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 1:16:06 PM 
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro 

I picked uo a '99 Funduro with Givi bags a few weeks back and use it 
mostly as a commuter. Question for the technically savvy. 

I am getting about 48 mpg as a commuter and 51-52 mpg on the highway. 
The previous owner was getting 58-60 mpg. I used to have a '97 
Funduro and got up to 60 mpg as well. The bike has been fully 
serviced by Hermy's at the time of title transfer, as it sat in a 
garage for 4 years prior to my purchase. It has 8100 miles on it now, 
and I've put about 1100 mi on it. 

Any suggestions why I am getting significantly lower than expected gas mileage? 

David 
_______________________________________________ 
Mac-pac-l mailing list 
Mac-pac-l at jtan.com 
http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l 

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 02:09:04 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:09:04 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <4C2951A4.9040407@ptd.net>
References: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin7HZMY206OUaZReWw_ipXQgBCBWi6FpQx8OGZE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimzLMRl28JI6IIG6zPxIf629Mu9ILM6z46CJ1MF@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Chris <chrisjac at ptd.net> wrote:
> Dan Whitfield wrote:
>>>
>>> Seems to be an epidemic, there's a bunch of fatal bike accidents in the
>>> Buffalo paper today. ?Most are 'suspicious' to me, being between
>>> midnight and 5am and middle-aged men. ?I hate to jump to conclusions,
>>> but heading home from the bar seems likely.
>>>
>>> Sad either way...
>>>
>>
>>
>> This type of event is the saddest part of my 36 year career as
>> Motorcycle Tech.
>>
>> Saw my first one at age 15. ?Two very talented riders (had just won
>> the dirt drags on dressers) got too much purple passion in them. Were
>> running wide open side by side, with passenger girls, into the front
>> and rear door of a Plymouth station wagon that turned in front of
>> their path. ?They lived, but were never the same.
>>
>> The destruction to each member of their family who loved them and
>> depended on them is beyond belief.
>>
>> You can't help but look at how much safer car accidents have become.
>>
>> Why can't we do that?
>>
>
> Honda did.......get a Gold Wing with an Airbag.
>
> Chris Jaccarino


I saw a HONDA video of a crash dummy demo. It cushioned the dummy from
the initial hit into the roof of the car, but he then fell back and
beside the bike and it fell on him.

Guess it just wasn't his lucky day.

Dano

From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 02:11:39 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:11:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] You thought the Centralia Ride Was Bizarre?
In-Reply-To: <5594055.116867.1277776778719.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <AANLkTilE6lNn9MOieCuPequkCeC_PpXXSjMqkR6kIxQu@mail.gmail.com>
	<5594055.116867.1277776778719.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikSka439fokA2-VvK98hScutCY85u8T6B_7Y_4i@mail.gmail.com>

You also might want to study up on early renaissance artists. Might I
suggest Masaccio.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:59 PM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John
Clauss) <JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Jack, Count me in, I own a lab coat and have access to all sorts of scientific equipment which I could borrow for the weekend easily. I also own "She Blinded Me With Science", and many "They Might Be Giants" CDs, which are required listening for geeky science teachers.
>
>
> John Clauss
> K1100RS
> R75/6
> _______________________________________________
> Mac-pac-l mailing list
> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
>

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 02:17:56 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:17:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] X-PRIZE Popular Mechanics
Message-ID: <AANLkTikMfjC14mtMWQJKxztNLAQnyI0xrjgBuUHi-NKW@mail.gmail.com>

Pics and descriptions of the X-PRIZE competition vehicles.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/alternative-fuel/auto-x-prize/x-tracer-team-switzerland-e-tracer-7002-e-tracer-7009

ECO Dano

Greensboro NC

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 02:22:00 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:22:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <3DBD228D-2A2D-43C4-AC69-46F00308A98E@gmail.com>
References: <6598526.1277758030518.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<AANLkTikxYwm9oNoNOC_qfrDLf1ggOqz9bHbURGA1q1BS@mail.gmail.com>
	<3DBD228D-2A2D-43C4-AC69-46F00308A98E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilNpJMAanOgeGE9OOq-1Zm-ZSPn0u9hltiwqdno@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/28/10, David <david.hardgrove at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, K&N is out.
>
>  I took out the stock air filter tonite.  How do you determine if it's dirty.  The oil in it seems clean.

The oil in the AF is dirty???

I would expect that stock PAPER AF to be rather dry.

If it has a 1/8th inch or more of gunge on it, it is dead.

>  Any other ideas on why the mpg's are lower than expected?

I would run carb cleaner though it.  Repeatedly.

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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"DEERsSLAYER"        |      Aging Factors Can be Stopped
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From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Tue Jun 29 02:34:23 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:34:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] How to violate a jaguar at 60MPH
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinRcpZJ0ubz0hbZD8Q9W_l5xYVr_aaxgjyXyiAr@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikp92Hf49l8gJQ5aUkUPQZt1hOezIqdf8KsfH0V@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C29236F.7454.38521EA@localhost>



> Dear Rob:
> 
> I'm about to order one of these as the seating position looks very
> comfortable... The optional tool bag is designed to look like a chimp
> and it attaches to the Jaguar's mouth.
> 

Does it come in goat?

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Tue Jun 29 02:36:57 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:36:57 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <3DBD228D-2A2D-43C4-AC69-46F00308A98E@gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikxYwm9oNoNOC_qfrDLf1ggOqz9bHbURGA1q1BS@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C292409.5581.3877EF7@localhost>



> Well, K&N is out.
> 
> I took out the stock air filter tonite.  How do you determine if it's
> dirty.  The oil in it seems clean.
> 
> Any other ideas on why the mpg's are lower than expected?
> 
> 
The stock air filter does not have any oil on it.  Put in a new air 
filter and look at it after 1-2 weeks.  If it has oil on it you may 
have found a problem.

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From david.hardgrove at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 02:47:27 2010
From: david.hardgrove at gmail.com (David Hardgrove)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:47:27 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <4C292409.5581.3877EF7@localhost>
References: <AANLkTikxYwm9oNoNOC_qfrDLf1ggOqz9bHbURGA1q1BS@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4C292409.5581.3877EF7@localhost>
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Joe, Brian,

I took this from the chaingang list - from the FAQ Technical area:

"When I get a New Foam Filter, do I need to Oil it?

    * Nope. If you got it from a Dealer in a Sealed Plastic Bag it is
pre-oiled. Just use the Method Above to pry the plastic frame apart
and reinsert it.
    * The foam does break down naturally after a while, sometimes
lasts a couple of years, sometimes not. If you live in an area high in
ozone, it will break down the foam fairly quickly. After 2 years some
have noticed the filter starting to "dust", but a new pre oiled filter
is only $6."

Thus I believe the stock air filter is a pre-oiled foam.

David

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Joe Dille <joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us> wrote:
>
>
>> Well, K&N is out.
>>
>> I took out the stock air filter tonite. ?How do you determine if it's
>> dirty. ?The oil in it seems clean.
>>
>> Any other ideas on why the mpg's are lower than expected?
>>
>>
> The stock air filter does not have any oil on it. ?Put in a new air
> filter and look at it after 1-2 weeks. ?If it has oil on it you may
> have found a problem.
>
> Ride Safe,
>
> Joe
> ---------------------------------
> Joe Dille
> Telford, PA USA
> joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
> What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
> http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm
>
>

From david.hardgrove at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 02:50:20 2010
From: david.hardgrove at gmail.com (David Hardgrove)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:50:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilNpJMAanOgeGE9OOq-1Zm-ZSPn0u9hltiwqdno@mail.gmail.com>
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	<3DBD228D-2A2D-43C4-AC69-46F00308A98E@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilNpJMAanOgeGE9OOq-1Zm-ZSPn0u9hltiwqdno@mail.gmail.com>
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Brian,

Is there a carb cleaner I can add directly to the gas tank?  Any suggestions?


>
>> ?Any other ideas on why the mpg's are lower than expected?
>
> I would run carb cleaner though it. ?Repeatedly.

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Tue Jun 29 02:53:08 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:53:08 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] [Fwd: Re: Deep Yogurt||Re: 5 Motorcyclists Killed in
	Lancaster]
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From rollybrown at verizon.net  Mon Jun 28 22:41:16 2010
From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:41:16 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: iPad [was Droid vs iPhone
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On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Doug Raymond <douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:

> Have you used a sheetmusic iPad app for real-time playing?  I used to
> dream 20 years ago that there would be such a display/memory device
> that would make all the paper scores and their problems
> unnecessary-finding the score, storing it, page-turning.

i haven't used an app like that, but i do have the "iRealBook", which is a "fakebook" with the chord progressions for about 900 jazz tunes. very cool, too because you can instantly transpose a progression to any key, and you can input more tunes as well.

>  It's hard to
> believe that the actual device is beyond my dreams, yet I don't rush
> out to buy one.  Maybe I will if I ever settle down to devote some of
> the free time to piano practice again (that could be the excuse I
> need!).

yup, maybe...i think i'll go check the app store for some Bach studies for sight reading...
> 
> Paper does allow you to pencil in notes to yourself, but I suppose the
> iPad app can even handle this too.

i'd imagine so...

cheers,
rol, from the iPad

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 02:54:23 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:54:23 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim7rcI7vuzM62AETJV8hd3aggxbZW4GC3r_pOj-@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikxYwm9oNoNOC_qfrDLf1ggOqz9bHbURGA1q1BS@mail.gmail.com>
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On 6/28/10, David Hardgrove <david.hardgrove at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Thus I believe the stock air filter is a pre-oiled foam.

In which case, the dirtier it is the better it is.  The smaller the
holes that trap other stuff.  That said, the dirt is also tracking on
through.  Might be one of the few times I would say that a time or
mile based change is a good thing.


-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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Brian Curry          |      Is Getting Old, Getting Old?
"DEERsSLAYER"        |      Aging Factors Can be Stopped
K75RTs both coasts   |      Find out more about it at
Chester Springs PA   |      http://www.nsevideos.com

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Tue Jun 29 02:54:24 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:54:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin_f-VbNnTZ3t6JoxJvo7K8X479GOeno46LGVvE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6598526.1277758030518.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>	<AANLkTikxYwm9oNoNOC_qfrDLf1ggOqz9bHbURGA1q1BS@mail.gmail.com>	<3DBD228D-2A2D-43C4-AC69-46F00308A98E@gmail.com>	<AANLkTilNpJMAanOgeGE9OOq-1Zm-ZSPn0u9hltiwqdno@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4C296060.5050807@ptd.net>

David Hardgrove wrote:
> Brian,
>
> Is there a carb cleaner I can add directly to the gas tank?  Any suggestions?
>
>
>   
>>>  Any other ideas on why the mpg's are lower than expected?
>>>       
>> I would run carb cleaner though it.  Repeatedly.

Seafoam




From bmwdick at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 14:48:39 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:48:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bumper Sticker for Cutter
In-Reply-To: <B63DC51EF4A1484D99616F43CDC1115F@heilveil5e3fdd>
References: <4C2679B8.28160.3AAC216@localhost>
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On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Eric Ducdude <Ducdude at verizon.net> wrote:

>
> >> Saw this on the back of a pickup truck today.
> >>
> >> "Road Racing - Cause sports like Baseball, Soccer, Basketball,
> >> Football, and Golf only require 1 ball"
> >>
> >
> > "Quarter Midget Racing --- All other sports only require one ball."
> > ---------------------------------
> > Joe Dille
>
>
> Ahhh  what about the Girls that race???
>
> Duc
> _______________________________________________
> Mac-pac-l mailing list
> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com
> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l
>


Chances are they already have some guy's. . .
-- 
BMW-Dick
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I?m not sure
about the universe.?    Albert Einstein.
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From bmwdick at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 16:30:04 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:30:04 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bumper Sticker for Cutter
In-Reply-To: <BE72C86F546441149B9A014A58261105@heilveil5e3fdd>
References: <4C2679B8.28160.3AAC216@localhost>
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On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Eric Ducdude <Ducdude at verizon.net> wrote:

>
> (SNIP)
> ___________________________________________
> As the father of a daughter  I can tell you some girls have no need for
> some guys balls  they have plenty of their own..
>
> Duc Dad
>


You think she has huevos now, wait until she grows up; then run and hide ;)
-- 
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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I?m not sure
about the universe.?    Albert Einstein.
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From kgbruce1 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 13:08:00 2010
From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:08:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] REMINDER!! RIDERS' DINNER!!! this group is going to the
	dogs...
Message-ID: <AANLkTim9j25rAABbJXHMVhua2ysDMwTHKnrNNLgE-Gjd@mail.gmail.com>

THIS WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!  Thanks to all who have responded!

Hear Ye!  Hear Ye!  The time is once again upon us to gather for the monthly
Riders' Dinner!  So, on Wednesday, June 30th (sliding right under the
proverbial wire) the Riders' Dinner will be held at the Four Dogs Tavern,
1300 Strasburg Road, West Chester, Pa 19382 (610) 692-4367.
http://www.thefourdogstavern.com/

The Four Dogs is well known for its beautiful location, extraordinary fare
and notable brew selection (FYWDB).
http://www.zagat.com/Verticals/Menu.aspx?VID=8&R=71848&HID=500004644

The area is surrounded by some excellent roads for pre or post dinner
riding.  The Four Dogs has been a beloved Chester County institution for a
long time and enjoys an outstanding reputation which, according to my lunch
there a week ago, is well deserved!  There was some question as to whether
or not they could accommodate our "separate checks" requirement so I
mentioned to the manager that I know Earle Bare, who lives close by.  The
mention of Earle's name removed all question as the manager said "Oh, well
in that case we DEFINITELY can't do separate checks!".  Deciding I should
try a different approach I said that I also know Charlene at which point the
manager said "Well in that case I guess we can try it."  Funny how that
worked...

The heat and humidity have been quite high lately so I reserved the air
conditioned loft which should fit our gathering nicely and prevent Rob Haut
from enduring another bad hair day. We'll gather at 6:30 p.m. but feel free
to arrive earlier and enjoy the surroundings.

You know the drill, if you can make it, please let me know and if you don't
know til the last minute just show up!  Its a great place and I lied about
us to get the reservation so if Riepe shows up, act like we just met him.

See you this Wednesday!

Ken Bruce
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From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 03:19:15 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:19:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikUfiXg8UCYkRVOHP9u5AVOhgLCgb-DiEz-hR5s@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikUfiXg8UCYkRVOHP9u5AVOhgLCgb-DiEz-hR5s@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTineiwHy8tBO8rrrrBhWw_lKcX105yjeevpQptis@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:16 PM, David Hardgrove
<david.hardgrove at gmail.com> wrote:
> I picked uo a '99 Funduro with Givi bags a few weeks back and use it
> mostly as a commuter. ?..snip..

> Any suggestions why I am getting significantly lower than expected gas mileage?
>

How about "Commuting" and "Ethanol"?


-- 
-- ---------------
Doug Raymond
R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 03:22:46 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:22:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] You thought the Centralia Ride Was Bizarre?
In-Reply-To: <5594055.116867.1277776778719.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <AANLkTilE6lNn9MOieCuPequkCeC_PpXXSjMqkR6kIxQu@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTimsuRR-ZE4oyK6BXz6H2wiYaUYiVfDdPOrb9kav@mail.gmail.com>

Dear John:

You are counted in, especially as you were one of the original Centralia riders.



-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 03:31:47 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:31:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin_f-VbNnTZ3t6JoxJvo7K8X479GOeno46LGVvE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6598526.1277758030518.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<AANLkTikxYwm9oNoNOC_qfrDLf1ggOqz9bHbURGA1q1BS@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTimzXw_bJhPJvGKwmZkA-TxfdojaM36yzkeNqGTX@mail.gmail.com>

Dear David:

If the air filter is $6, break a twenty and buy three of them. Put one
in. Forget about it until this time next year. That works out to 1.6?
per day. You will find this is cheaper than a squirt of Seafoam, and
you will not have to worry about the filter for a year.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 03:37:33 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:37:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimzXw_bJhPJvGKwmZkA-TxfdojaM36yzkeNqGTX@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6598526.1277758030518.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<AANLkTikxYwm9oNoNOC_qfrDLf1ggOqz9bHbURGA1q1BS@mail.gmail.com>
	<3DBD228D-2A2D-43C4-AC69-46F00308A98E@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilNpJMAanOgeGE9OOq-1Zm-ZSPn0u9hltiwqdno@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin_f-VbNnTZ3t6JoxJvo7K8X479GOeno46LGVvE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimzXw_bJhPJvGKwmZkA-TxfdojaM36yzkeNqGTX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiko8u_n_Jj_J00-WMBPMQ7NnOyVa_sMh31sDfhy@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/28/10, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear David:
>
>  If the air filter is $6, break a twenty and buy three of them. Put one
>  in. Forget about it until this time next year. That works out to 1.6?
>  per day. You will find this is cheaper than a squirt of Seafoam, and
>  you will not have to worry about the filter for a year.

You are ASSUMING it is the filter.

Most know about ASSUMPTIONS...

Remember it is not the perfect motorcycle like the K75...

The damn ethanol may just be the reason too. :(:(


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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 03:44:35 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:44:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Very Cool Photo's.
Message-ID: <AANLkTim7wqiuZcAhOQ2Tr1s1SIoRAMrl8xOb06rCTbCX@mail.gmail.com>

It started here:
http://www.johnmirandaphoto.com/postranchgallery.htm

Then I checked these
http://www.johnmirandaphoto.com/index.htm (Overview)

and these:
http://www.johnmirandaphoto.com/airshowgallery.htm

and these:
http://www.johnmirandaphoto.com/pasm.htm

The guy has an EYE.  Gerry might note some familiar stuff in the last
one.  I have looked in those wheel wells and it is AMAZING all the
stuff that is in them that allowed them to take off and land crabbed.
And sustain battle damage and keep working or be much more resistant
to it.

All WS.
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From ridebackroads at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 05:53:38 2010
From: ridebackroads at gmail.com (Carl Boler)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:53:38 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bob Zane
Message-ID: <AANLkTildiqz3HSvzJbk5k1bHtVDnYzJCV7dGs0vT_6YS@mail.gmail.com>

Bob Zane, can you contact me?

Thanks,
Carl
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From Ducdude at verizon.net  Tue Jun 29 00:04:44 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:04:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
References: <28421695.1277746934104.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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Message-ID: <244EB09808C54D72991179951B2AF596@heilveil5e3fdd>


I am up to about 38 psig on the tires.  There are new Metler Tourances
on the bike.  Hermy did empty the tank and clean the carbs.  I did
think the idle was set too high at 1500 rpm, so I cut it to ~1300 -
1400 rpm.

I wonder if K&N makes an air filter for this.  Any further suggestions?

David
>


Yup!  stay the heck away from K+N filters!  The stockers work the best just 
replace them as req.  K+N  will help hone your cylinders over time by 
letting in all kinds of airborne stuff...

That little tidbit cost me $2200  eight years ago...

Ciao,
Duc



From Ducdude at verizon.net  Tue Jun 29 10:08:31 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 06:08:31 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Nice 1972 75/5 toaster in Easton
References: <AANLkTimNquNqW1FvFT7fBuKNqeLLUx2gC4CwH9d5eKEm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C52C3AA08DE40AAB9C16657FCEB28FA@heilveil5e3fdd>




> Pretty, even down to the tool kit
> 
> http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/1814932990.html
> 
> -- 
> Rob Haut
> West Chester PA


Someone spent a good bit of time and a bit of money on this baby...

Nice bike...

Duc
1972 R75/5 Silver

From wayne at 2zars.com  Tue Jun 29 10:31:10 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 06:31:10 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin0qrMoHRL8NsMOywHgPdBDwPoy5l3R573MI4n_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
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>> ?I'd rather buy
>> a new lens for my camera or save for a higher end camera body.

>
>You and me both...this is what I would love to have(see below)...when
>will Nikon come out with a competitive product?
>
>What DSLR's are capable of...
>http://vimeo.com/7058755
>
>This is the camera that did the above video...
>http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?modelid=17662&act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=139

I wasn't aware Nikon did not have a competing product.  

I'm very familiar with the 5D.  It's the Canon standard full-frame
DSLR and it does HD video.  It had very good low light performace
among other merits.  I'm not sure I'd use the HD video, but many of
the higher end Canon DSLR's come with with it.  Canon touts that the
5D has been used to film parts of SNL and was used to record the
entire season finale of House.  


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Tue Jun 29 10:40:34 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 06:40:34 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim7rcI7vuzM62AETJV8hd3aggxbZW4GC3r_pOj-@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C292409.5581.3877EF7@localhost>
Message-ID: <4C299562.27552.182EF8@localhost>



> Joe, Brian,
> 
> I took this from the chaingang list - from the FAQ Technical area:
> 
> "When I get a New Foam Filter, do I need to Oil it?
> 
>     * Nope. If you got it from a Dealer in a Sealed Plastic Bag it is
> pre-oiled. Just use the Method Above to pry the plastic frame apart
> and reinsert it.
>     * The foam does break down naturally after a while, sometimes
> lasts a couple of years, sometimes not. If you live in an area high in
> ozone, it will break down the foam fairly quickly. After 2 years some
> have noticed the filter starting to "dust", but a new pre oiled filter
> is only $6."
> 
> Thus I believe the stock air filter is a pre-oiled foam.
> 

How about that.  You learn something new every day.  I thought 100% 
of modern road going vehicles used pleated paper filters.  I guess 
not.  Still, I would replace the filter as the foam does break down.

I doubt this is your problem, but it is a good idea to change it if 
the bike is new to you.

Ride Safe,

Joe 
---------------------------------
Joe Dille
Telford, PA USA
joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us
What happens on Earth, stays on Earth
http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm


From piechota at argolis.org  Tue Jun 29 11:48:56 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:48:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <r2ij26pl6v0jst4h6s8lc3mqs3lqltam3q@4ax.com>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
	<59sg261ca1f33lt98ttff7hcq05c1ckqk5@4ax.com>
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	<r2ij26pl6v0jst4h6s8lc3mqs3lqltam3q@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <1277812136.2018.6.camel@easter-bunny.pa.argolis.org>

On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 06:31 -0400, Wayne Woodruff wrote:

> I'm very familiar with the 5D.  It's the Canon standard full-frame
> DSLR and it does HD video.  It had very good low light performace
> among other merits.  I'm not sure I'd use the HD video, but many of
> the higher end Canon DSLR's come with with it.  Canon touts that the
> 5D has been used to film parts of SNL and was used to record the
> entire season finale of House.  

There's some DSLR-style camera that they 'filmed' the entire commercial
for the camera, using the camera (I forget which camera) in HD.  Up
until the mention of that, you wouldn't know that it wasn't filmed on a
pro HD video camera.  That's pretty slick.  I probably would not get
enough use out of a dedicated HD video camera, but if I had one as part
of my usual camera?  Sold!

Of course, in a year or two all the DSLRs will likely have this, so
unless you desperately want it right now, you might as well wait. :)



From wayne at 2zars.com  Tue Jun 29 12:26:33 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:26:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <1277812136.2018.6.camel@easter-bunny.pa.argolis.org>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
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	<AANLkTin0qrMoHRL8NsMOywHgPdBDwPoy5l3R573MI4n_@mail.gmail.com>
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>There's some DSLR-style camera that they 'filmed' the entire commercial
>for the camera, using the camera (I forget which camera) in HD.  Up
>until the mention of that, you wouldn't know that it wasn't filmed on a
>pro HD video camera.  That's pretty slick.  I probably would not get
>enough use out of a dedicated HD video camera, but if I had one as part
>of my usual camera?  Sold!

Canon has openly admited that they see video as opening their cameras
to new markets and that most photographers do not want it. 

A recent informal web survey showed that 24% of those that own a
video-capable DSLR actually used the video.  


>Of course, in a year or two all the DSLRs will likely have this, so
>unless you desperately want it right now, you might as well wait. :)

The Canon 500D and 550D, which both have kit MSRP well below $1000
offer 1080p video. 

The higher end cameras cost more for a reason, most notably,
significantly better performance in low light and high frame rate
capture of RAW images (9 frames/sec of full res pictures, not video).
The Canon 5D clains an ISO rating of 25,600, which is ridiculous (most
DSLR's crap out above 800).  


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 13:08:50 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:08:50 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
In-Reply-To: <p2pj26tv7i5ik8nhhjkpm1vbgeh529d435@4ax.com>
References: <AANLkTikPkJxB_kqhdjpvfFXtWMaZX6TW6pO4LDCvazFY@mail.gmail.com>
	<59sg261ca1f33lt98ttff7hcq05c1ckqk5@4ax.com>
	<AANLkTin0qrMoHRL8NsMOywHgPdBDwPoy5l3R573MI4n_@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Wayne Woodruff <wayne at 2zars.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
> The Canon 500D and 550D, which both have kit MSRP well below $1000
> offer 1080p video.
>
> The higher end cameras cost more for a reason, most notably,
> significantly better performance in low light and high frame rate
> capture of RAW images (9 frames/sec of full res pictures, not video).
> The Canon 5D clains an ISO rating of 25,600, which is ridiculous (most
> DSLR's crap out above 800).


But the 5d is capable of 30 frames per second...which you don't get in
their other 1080p offerings. I don't know of another competitor who's
DSLR can compete with that quality....


-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 14:19:39 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:19:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Breaking News from the Gulf....
Message-ID: <AANLkTik4SwDRITwsuuByjFMDDt7BkESSjHw84ggXxDnN@mail.gmail.com>

Breaking News:    BP replaced the oil well cap with a wedding ring and
it has immediately stop putting out. Details at 11.

(THNX Little Bob!)
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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 14:36:31 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:36:31 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The iPhone4 vs HTC Evo
Message-ID: <AANLkTinkBKRT1n_6c8nBm8SwLXqi7qcRpjSLdpmcRiWf@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg
(NWS but funny)

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From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 14:47:27 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:47:27 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
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There are a few more crash details released now, along with the names
of the victims:
http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/262225

The cause of the crash is still under investigation.  But the article
provides the interesting police statement that the bikes were
southbound while the taxi van was northbound, and the accident
occurred in the southbound lane.

The way I read this is that the van crossed over and took out all the
motorcycles, who probably had no time to react.

The coroner declared that all 6 victims were wearing helmets.
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From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun 29 14:51:57 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:51:57 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin78pEk3_Aqgt7R5IhYRimOzqMW7zlOA56xCJ4U@mail.gmail.com>
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<<There are a few more crash details released now, along with the 
namesof the 
victims:http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/262225The cause of 
the crash is still under investigation.  But the articleprovides the 
interesting police statement that the bikes weresouthbound while the 
taxi van was northbound, and the accidentoccurred in the southbound 
lane.The way I read this is that the van crossed over and took out all 
themotorcycles, who probably had no time to react.The coroner declared 
that all 6 victims were wearing helmets.>>

Paula saw the news report on TV last evening. She said they showed 
footage of a little 'brain bucket' helmet sitting on the road.

What a sad thing for so many families.


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Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 15:02:09 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:02:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Some AMAZING details from the BP oil well spill
Message-ID: <AANLkTik40Gn8a6cvwql75k_TPVzlX8_97JbLi39PTaW2@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/us/29wells.html
(WS)

This is FREAKING AMAZING:
============
Mr. Wells said that the first well had closed within about 20 feet
horizontally of the damaged well, and that crews would be conducting 8
to 12 more magnetic ranging tests ? each of which takes about half a
day ? to determine the precise location of the metal casing pipe in
the damaged well bore. The goal is to continue to drill the relief
well in parallel with the damaged well to within about 200 feet
vertically of the interception point, and within five feet
horizontally. Then the remaining 200 feet will be drilled, and a
milling device will be used to cut into the casing pipe of the runaway
well.
============

Getting that close "that far away" ignoring that it is underwater too.

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From motorrader at verizon.net  Tue Jun 29 15:04:21 2010
From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:04:21 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] West Virginia Wild and Wonderful
Message-ID: <F373C2605ABD481BA82CFC4800AD8E21@dellfe483b726d>

Hello Doug,

I was looking over my notes from the WV trip and came across the  250 mile 
loop we  traveled on our way to Hutte's in Helvetia.  I thought you may be 
interested if you have the time.  Here it goes:

>From Seneca Rocks:

Rt. 33 W to Elkins
Rt. 219S to Mill Creek
CR 46 to Adolph then to Helvetia
Continue on CR 46 to Frenchtown area ( Rt. 20)
Rt. 20 S through Alexander, Cleveland, Hacker Valley and into Webster 
Springs
Rt 15 E.  through Cherry Falls, Curtin, Bergoo and into Valley Head
Rt. 55/219 S into Snowshoe Village and  Snowshoe  Mountain Ski Resort
Rt 66 E to Cass and the  Cass Scenic Railroad
Rt 28/92 N into Green Bank Observatory, Boyer Station etc.
Rt 28 N into Thornwood, Cherry Grove, Circleville etc.
Rt 28/33 N into Judy Gap, Riverton and back to Seneca Rocks

This is just one example of many scenic riding loops.  Helvetia is a special 
experience and if you are within a hundred miles, it is a must stop.  20 
miles off the beaten path ( all paved roads) just to get to the village, but 
worth it.  The town is very remote in the middle of no where.  Hutte's is on 
the corner of the only intersection, so you can't miss it. You can spend a 
half hour or more touring the different rooms in Hutte's.  Tell Eleanor we 
said hello.  A river borders the property with a bridge sporting 
........flower boxes, of course!  The population of the town is only a 
couple hundred people.

The is a Motorcycle Tours brochure that is available www.visitwv.com  and it 
lists several different tours, mostly southern WV.  The one that interests 
me is the "National River" tour.  This one takes you across the ancient 
river valleys of the New River Gorge and past the C&O passenger train 
station in Prince and past the operating gristmill at Babcock State Park, 
which I understand is a must stop. Ride past Gauley River which is known 
worldwide for its big water rapids.  Cathedral Falls on Rt. 60 is also a 
terrific view.  The New River Gorge Bridge is the second largest steel arch 
bridge in the world, it crosses a 1000' deep gorge.

When I return to take these riding tours I also plan to take the tour of The 
Greenbrier Presidential Retreat in White Sulphur Springs, WV.  I wanted to 
visit this place for several years.

Hope you can make the trip!

Regards,
Todd




From 321design at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 15:04:56 2010
From: 321design at gmail.com (321design at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:04:56 +0000
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Three New Navy Ships
Message-ID: <0016e6d369677530bd048a2c8f44@google.com>

http://www.nerepublican.com/index.php/2008/09/13/three-new-navy-ships/
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From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun 29 15:17:04 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:17:04 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
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<<Agreed, although less emphatically. The air filter is HUGE for 
thatbike, take it out, you'll see. You'll also be able to readily see 
ifit's clogged. It's under the seat, and easy to remove. If you find 
ithard to remove, or end up taking out a ton of screws, you're doing 
itwrong. I don't remember the details, but I think it's only one 
screw,that wasn't apparent to me to remove it. IIRC stock replacements 
arelike $12 (It's been quite a few beers since I worked on one).That 
being said, if it needs replacement, I think they do make one,and it is 
washable. I replaced my K12's filters with BMCs, but onlybecause 
they're washable.You also might want to look at the plugs, I replaced 
my scarver's plugwith an iridium one, and there was definitely an 
improvement. F650.comshould also have crosses for iridium and platinum 
plugs. By the way,you have 2 plugs, and all the tools you need to 
replace it in thebikes original toolkit.>>

Air filter access under the left sidecover, aft of the battery holder. 
Two screws.

Discard and replace the foam filter, they crumble when saturated with 
gas containing ethanol. Visually inspect the inside of the airbox to 
see if bits of foam are already present downstream.

New BMW filter element, pre-oiled is $8.00.

The spark plugs are NGK, needs TWO.




--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From tpcutter at aol.com  Tue Jun 29 15:20:00 2010
From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:20:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikqMi2qNnlcWQEua61glvw1NZtLFpjVCKUKPA7Z@mail.gmail.com>
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<<Is this one of the carbed F650's?  If so, I wonder if you/it 
haveplugged up jets in the carb.  Even with a "full service".  I am 
notsure such would include a carb cleaning as SOP.>>

I just recently did a F650ST service for Ken Bruce. I don't really care 
what other shops consider part of a full service, I stripped and 
cleaned Ken's carbs, did some twiddling in them for better throttle 
response, cleaned the whole airbox, new air filter, valve adjustment, 
oil and filter, etc. Now that little thing runs like a champ.


--?
Tom Cutter
Yardley, PA
http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com


It's not a crime to be narrow-minded, but it is a shame.
??????ds??d ?u??????p ? ?o?? ???qo?d ? ?? ?oo??

From wayne at 2zars.com  Tue Jun 29 17:04:05 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:04:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Droid vs iPhone
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>
>
> But the 5d is capable of 30 frames per second...which you don't get in
> their other 1080p offerings. I don't know of another competitor who's
> DSLR can compete with that quality....

Agreed.  One clarification, Canon offers 1080i/30fps in both the 7D
and the 550D.  The 550D kit MSRP is $900, body only $100 less.


-- 
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Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From wayne at 2zars.com  Tue Jun 29 17:11:55 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:11:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Some AMAZING details from the BP oil well spill
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik40Gn8a6cvwql75k_TPVzlX8_97JbLi39PTaW2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik40Gn8a6cvwql75k_TPVzlX8_97JbLi39PTaW2@mail.gmail.com>
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> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/us/29wells.html
> (WS)
>
> This is FREAKING AMAZING:

I'm still in awe that they can change the direction of drill bits and
do angles and such.


-- 
Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Tue Jun 29 17:21:06 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:21:06 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Some AMAZING details from the BP oil well spill
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilorAajGYU0dd5eJjxQWIRdSliH-lMDzwPlZLw2@mail.gmail.com>
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>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/us/29wells.html
>> (WS)
>>
>> This is FREAKING AMAZING:
>
> I'm still in awe that they can change the direction of drill bits and
> do angles and such.
>

And the fact that they bring a casing down with them.  Crazy stuff.

Ride Safe,

Joe


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 18:30:20 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:30:20 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Origin of the British Royal Family.
Message-ID: <AANLkTimMeiqJw6ubffdN-mDj_8WGTidt8nnYKdDWY-SD@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfxbZdbH2Fs
(WS, except you may fall out of your chair ROTFL! ~1min long)

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From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 18:29:24 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:29:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
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Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues:

This could have happened to any of us. It was a hot day. The van
driver could have fallen asleep... Could have passed out... Or could
have been on the phone. God bless us all.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 18:49:33 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:49:33 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Origin of the British Royal Family.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimMeiqJw6ubffdN-mDj_8WGTidt8nnYKdDWY-SD@mail.gmail.com>
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Absolutely true.


-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 18:47:36 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:47:36 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Some AMAZING details from the BP oil well spill
In-Reply-To: <15712.12.181.211.35.1277832066.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
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Dear Esteemed Sirs:

What they will probably do is graze the leaking well shaft, causing it
to implode, driving one relief well into the other, and pulling two
other rigs under water. This will then release 18,000,000 barrels of
oil into the gulf, at 14,000 lbs per square inch, per hour. It will
then be suggested that Thad Allen, the Coast Guard Face of Failure, be
shoved down the well, "just to see what happens." The new date for
ending the leaking oil is Easter. And if that doesn't work, they'll
shoot for Eastern Orthodox Easter.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 19:02:13 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:02:13 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Some AMAZING details from the BP oil well spill
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil8DAx40Vhx4vA8OLGm5wjuIdSMcWcVT3PAiohi@mail.gmail.com>
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Maybe this is the start of the big deflation that finally ends in 2012.




On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Jack Riepe <jack.riepe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Esteemed Sirs:
>
> What they will probably do is graze the leaking well shaft, causing it
> to implode, driving one relief well into the other, and pulling two
> other rigs under water. This will then release 18,000,000 barrels of
> oil into the gulf, at 14,000 lbs per square inch, per hour. It will
> then be suggested that Thad Allen, the Coast Guard Face of Failure, be
> shoved down the well, "just to see what happens." The new date for
> ending the leaking oil is Easter. And if that doesn't work, they'll
> shoot for Eastern Orthodox Easter.
>
> --
> Fondest regards,
> Jack
> The Lindbergh Baby
> West Chester, Pa
>
> "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
> have to be nice to them, at first."
> ? My Mother, Rita Riepe
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-- 
Sincerely,
Michael
Wilmington, NY
1993 BMW K75

"Go f_ck yourself."
--Jack Riepe.

From jasiii at earthlink.net  Tue Jun 29 19:02:16 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:02:16 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Origin of the British Royal Family.
Message-ID: <10484883.1277838136809.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfxbZdbH2Fs
>(WS, except you may fall out of your chair ROTFL! ~1min long)
>
>Ambassador BMW MOA?? |
>Brian Curry??????????|??????Is Getting Old, Getting Old?

This is funny... really funny

Jim

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 19:23:39 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:23:39 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Oh flight attendant, I'll have the dumpster fish.
Message-ID: <AANLkTikvjb-1po2jE8YsU0opnPgVCZPW_lw3FlsgZBoE@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Friends and Colleagues:

Enjoy your next flight, and the meal that probably cost you $14. Or
try to, after reading this little story. And the amazing thing is that
the government knows all this, and doesn't do a damn thing about it.
Remember the movie "Airport," where the flight crew all ate fish? Now
you're all eating shit anyway.

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2010-06-28-1Aairlinefood28_ST_N.htm?csp=Travel

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From wayne at 2zars.com  Tue Jun 29 20:43:52 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:43:52 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
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> Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues:
>
> This could have happened to any of us. It was a hot day. The van
> driver could have fallen asleep... Could have passed out... Or could
> have been on the phone. God bless us all.

Actually Jack, I'm seeing less people TALKING and more people TEXTING
while driving, which is way worse, IMO.


-- 
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Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From 440props at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 22:01:49 2010
From: 440props at gmail.com (Robert Atkinson)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:01:49 -0500
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Some AMAZING details from the BP oil well spill
In-Reply-To: <15712.12.181.211.35.1277832066.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
References: <AANLkTik40Gn8a6cvwql75k_TPVzlX8_97JbLi39PTaW2@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilorAajGYU0dd5eJjxQWIRdSliH-lMDzwPlZLw2@mail.gmail.com>
	<15712.12.181.211.35.1277832066.squirrel@12.181.211.35>
Message-ID: <68db627593852435324ed8d6bbaf4b24@gmail.com>


On Jun 29, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Joe Dille wrote:

> And the fact that they bring a casing down with them.  Crazy stuff.
"NEWS FLASH!"
BP replaced the oil well cap with a wedding ring and it has immediately 
stop putting out. Details at 11.
--
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BOOF  # 161 - MOA # 89159
I haven't lost my mind. It's backed up on disk. Somewhere in Racine, WI.



From piechota at argolis.org  Wed Jun 30 00:44:54 2010
From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:44:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Oh flight attendant, I'll have the dumpster fish.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikvjb-1po2jE8YsU0opnPgVCZPW_lw3FlsgZBoE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikvjb-1po2jE8YsU0opnPgVCZPW_lw3FlsgZBoE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C2A9386.7010800@argolis.org>

Jack Riepe wrote:
> Dear Friends and Colleagues:
> 
> Enjoy your next flight, and the meal that probably cost you $14. Or
> try to, after reading this little story. And the amazing thing is that
> the government knows all this, and doesn't do a damn thing about it.
> Remember the movie "Airport," where the flight crew all ate fish? Now
> you're all eating shit anyway.
> 
> http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2010-06-28-1Aairlinefood28_ST_N.htm?csp=Travel
> 

Woah, woah, woah: they serve meals on airlines?  All I ever see are 
those little snack boxes with individually wrapped stuff.

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 01:53:40 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:53:40 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Flying car gets go-ahead from the FAA
Message-ID: <AANLkTimwkS_rWquUw8kicNtgtWPMDdGNcIM6vE-JLpuZ@mail.gmail.com>

The Terrafugia Transition, a light aircraft that can convert into a
road-legal automobile, is to go into production after being given a
special weight exemption by the US Federal Aviation Administration.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7860966/Terrafugia-Transition-flying-car-gets-go-ahead-from-US-air-authorities.html
(WS)

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From wateredg at interlog.com  Wed Jun 30 02:13:19 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:13:19 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Flying car gets go-ahead from the FAA
References: <AANLkTimwkS_rWquUw8kicNtgtWPMDdGNcIM6vE-JLpuZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0BFD5724D1144DCDA441A0B78E7D334F@9200c>

Hello Brian,

From: "Brian Curry" <bmwbrian at gmail.com>

> The Terrafugia Transition, a light aircraft that can convert into a
> road-legal automobile, is to go into production after being given a
> special weight exemption by the US Federal Aviation Administration.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7860966/Terrafugia-Transition-flying-car-gets-go-ahead-from-US-air-authorities.html

Talk to pilots, and you'll find little interest here because they understand 
what makes a good plane. And this ain't it. Similarly, it makes for a crummy 
car, as air-planes have radically different needs than cars. In summary, the 
vehicle is the combination of a crappy car and a crappy plane, all for the 
sake of being able to say that you can combine the two. See "amphibious car" 
for historic examples of similar concepts.

Just because it *can* be done, doesn't necessarily mean it *should* be done.

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 02:23:55 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:23:55 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Flying car gets go-ahead from the FAA
In-Reply-To: <0BFD5724D1144DCDA441A0B78E7D334F@9200c>
References: <AANLkTimwkS_rWquUw8kicNtgtWPMDdGNcIM6vE-JLpuZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<0BFD5724D1144DCDA441A0B78E7D334F@9200c>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikxVHzsKk6svA2ZORe0ZtR-zwFtHcwka5AqJXru@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/29/10, Steve Makohin <wateredg at interlog.com> wrote:
>  From: "Brian Curry" <bmwbrian at gmail.com>

>  > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7860966/Terrafugia-Transition-flying-car-gets-go-ahead-from-US-air-authorities.html

>  Just because it *can* be done, doesn't necessarily mean it *should* be done.

So, this is not a good deal????
http://www.aerocarforsale.com/

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From mrmevans at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 02:35:05 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:35:05 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimBVTgpWhj1Nrdy746Ac3nu63d1zI9i9ehq5V7l@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin78pEk3_Aqgt7R5IhYRimOzqMW7zlOA56xCJ4U@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCE5B1C1E19878-1E7C-9A73@webmail-d048.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTiltCgoYlT9jgZ_KQD2ffyGcrW_3Bopvx5pfqJKv@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimBVTgpWhj1Nrdy746Ac3nu63d1zI9i9ehq5V7l@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Wayne Woodruff <wayne at 2zars.com> wrote:
>
> Actually Jack, I'm seeing less people TALKING and more people TEXTING
> while driving, which is way worse, IMO.
>
>

I SO second that Wayne. It has gotten to the point that I rarely go
out for a drive or ride where I don't see a vehicle ahead of me swerve
a few times, then look closer to see the driver alternating attention
between the road and something in his lap or down to his/her side.

Add to that the number of times that lights turn green and delays are
created by the driver who isn't texting while actually moving, but is
doing so at red lights/turned green.


-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 02:38:47 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:38:47 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] The BMW Aerocar....
Message-ID: <AANLkTineUBu-cIUcfGDAZK-xNKEfov_TnOijDTfgjqdS@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.artcars.com/aerocar/
(WS)

Very cool.  Yes, it IS a BMW.  It even has a moto engine.

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From mrmevans at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 02:57:43 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:57:43 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 2007 R1200GS for sale
Message-ID: <AANLkTilCvreykS7NTsa8UJJR1E1_8dtQLp16640hV7sm@mail.gmail.com>

I stopped by Martin Moto in Boyertown today. That had a 2007 R1200GS for sale.

It had several upgrades/additions including these different-looking
Micatech Pilot aluminum side cases - that's the first I've ever seen
them before.

More details at:

http://www.martinmoto.com/?act=units&uid=548

Anyway, the bike carries a price tag of $12,495 which seems on the
high end, but then I am not well-versed in GS pricing.

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 03:04:44 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 23:04:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinsBqI4nXwMe0KKSL_Q8fHG9YMfy8i_WNQDMzjF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin78pEk3_Aqgt7R5IhYRimOzqMW7zlOA56xCJ4U@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCE5B1C1E19878-1E7C-9A73@webmail-d048.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTiltCgoYlT9jgZ_KQD2ffyGcrW_3Bopvx5pfqJKv@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimBVTgpWhj1Nrdy746Ac3nu63d1zI9i9ehq5V7l@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinsBqI4nXwMe0KKSL_Q8fHG9YMfy8i_WNQDMzjF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimc3wIxo2UFye4FqeLNoraqdxXGvezWhbfft11n@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/29/10, Michael Evans <mrmevans at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Wayne Woodruff <wayne at 2zars.com> wrote:

>  out for a drive or ride where I don't see a vehicle ahead of me swerve
>  a few times, then look closer to see the driver alternating attention

I saw someone sideswipe the CENTER guard rail on Rt 30 Bypass.  They
appeared quite surprised, and exited at the next exit.  I suspect...

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From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 03:48:57 2010
From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 23:48:57 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinsBqI4nXwMe0KKSL_Q8fHG9YMfy8i_WNQDMzjF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin78pEk3_Aqgt7R5IhYRimOzqMW7zlOA56xCJ4U@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CCE5B1C1E19878-1E7C-9A73@webmail-d048.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTiltCgoYlT9jgZ_KQD2ffyGcrW_3Bopvx5pfqJKv@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimBVTgpWhj1Nrdy746Ac3nu63d1zI9i9ehq5V7l@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinsBqI4nXwMe0KKSL_Q8fHG9YMfy8i_WNQDMzjF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikuBgMqN3UcqcfkzLrUj8z6SrSvDeLE_s2viuBK@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Michael Evans <mrmevans at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Wayne Woodruff <wayne at 2zars.com> wrote:
>>
>> Actually Jack, I'm seeing less people TALKING and more people TEXTING
>> while driving, which is way worse, IMO.
>>
>>
>
> I SO second that Wayne. It has gotten to the point that I rarely go
> out for a drive or ride where I don't see a vehicle ahead of me swerve
> a few times, then look closer to see the driver alternating attention
> between the road and something in his lap or down to his/her side.
>
> Add to that the number of times that lights turn green and delays are
> created by the driver who isn't texting while actually moving, but is
> doing so at red lights/turned green.
>

In this case the taxi van driver is 64, and therefore is not capable of texting.


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R1150RT '02
Ambler, PA

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 04:15:16 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 00:15:16 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Microsoft trying to kill you using Windoze Messenger
Message-ID: <AANLkTimcJBWA9EUmVx44IFoK4Ojxarq4q-oEJhpyHQga@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/28/txtstopper-announces-cellphone-jammer-for-your-car-microsoft-to/

The Jammer might be good THING.  I wonder how it would work "in a
bike" when you are beside a car....  Check the video at the time they
note.  1 min and 55 seconds on.

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 04:52:15 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 00:52:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Watch out for those 86 year olds
Message-ID: <AANLkTimFdSB-PkjOYDDD7vPvIAFYy1gF3Boy-I7qg4yM@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/60261.html
(WS)

You just may have to Tazer them to cooperate.  There were only 10
LEO's there after all.

=========
Understandably alarmed ? and probably more than a little disgusted ?
by the presence of uninvited armed strangers in her home, Lona ordered
them to leave. This directive, issued by a fragile female octogenarian
confined to a hospital-style bed and tethered to an oxygen tank, was
interpreted as ?aggressive? behavior by Officer Thomas Duran, who
ordered one of his associates : ?Taser her!?
=========

Tom they may be ordinary working buys, but in the occupation I would
expect more judgment and ability to take control of the situation w/o
having to Tazer someone.  Plus something that can spark in a high
oxygen environment is NOT a good thing.  "Flaming Granny" will just
ruin everyone's day.

I suspect that Boulderslayer Bregstein will be more of a hazard, if
something stupid happens.

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From Ducdude at verizon.net  Wed Jun 30 10:38:09 2010
From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:38:09 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW recall
Message-ID: <F204D509461C4AFABD6D43F52FFD561A@heilveil5e3fdd>

Just in case you did not hear....

Mfr's Report Date: JUN 15, 2010
Make: BMW Model: R 1200 GS (and other R bikes too)
Model Year: 2007
Manufacturer: BMW OF NORTH AMERICA, LLC
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 10V276000 N/A
NHTSA Action Number: N/A
Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC
Potential Number of Units Affected: 15532

Summary:
 BMW IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2007 THROUGH 2009 R 1200 AND K 1200 
SERIES MOTORCYCLES MANUFACTURED FROM AUGUST 2006 THROUGH MAY 2009. DUE TO 
THE CURRENT ROUTING OF THE FRONT BRAKE LINES, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT DURING 
RIDING, AND THEREFORE ASSOCIATED VIBRATION. THE BRAKE LINES COULD BE UNDER 
STRAIN. IF THE VIBRATION/STRAIN IS SIGNIFICANT, THE BRAKE LINE COULD SPLIT 
AND START TO DEVELOP A LEAK.

Consequence:
 IF THIS GOES UNNOTICED, AND THE BRAKE FLUID RESERVOIR RUNS EMPTY, THE FRONT 
BRAKES COULD FAIL, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.

Remedy:
 BMW WILL NOTIFY OWNERS AND DEALERS WILL INSTALL NEW BRAKE LINES, CONTAINING 
A "SLEEVE" ALONG A PORTION OF THE LINES FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL IS 
EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING JULY 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT BMW AT 
1-800-525-7417. 


From wayne at 2zars.com  Wed Jun 30 10:37:44 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:37:44 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Microsoft trying to kill you using Windoze Messenger
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimcJBWA9EUmVx44IFoK4Ojxarq4q-oEJhpyHQga@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimcJBWA9EUmVx44IFoK4Ojxarq4q-oEJhpyHQga@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6q6m26l7md4j7velsosdeq8kjd1lh11ded@4ax.com>



>http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/28/txtstopper-announces-cellphone-jammer-for-your-car-microsoft-to/
>
>The Jammer might be good THING.  I wonder how it would work "in a
>bike" when you are beside a car....  Check the video at the time they
>note.  1 min and 55 seconds on.

In my original reply about texting yesterday, I was going to joke
about starting design on the motorcycle equivalent of the EA6B
Prowler.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_EA-6B_Prowler


Something like the jammer might be good, but when the texter discovers
their messages are not transmitting/receiving, are the going to be
come MORE distracted trying to figure it out?

I'm thinking my version would not run on an airhead electrical system.
I want something with POWER because I want to jam for at least a half
mile and I want a 'Chlorinate the gene pool' option.  

Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From wayne at 2zars.com  Wed Jun 30 10:42:45 2010
From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:42:45 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: got an iPhone4?
Message-ID: <2q7m261lumge33sg2c2v43sva9qno2uggb@4ax.com>


Might want to read this:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/apple-hiring-iphone-antenna-engineers-for-some-reason/
(WS)

I'm guessing there will be a flood of ex-mot employees apply. 


Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com
Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com

From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 12:08:46 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 08:08:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW recall
In-Reply-To: <F204D509461C4AFABD6D43F52FFD561A@heilveil5e3fdd>
References: <F204D509461C4AFABD6D43F52FFD561A@heilveil5e3fdd>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin6z6pUNkvzVELNrgaU6lMP1h8P2gYj_ZKs8glW@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Eric Ducdude <Ducdude at verizon.net> wrote:
> Just in case you did not hear....
>
> Mfr's Report Date: JUN 15, 2010
> Make: BMW Model: R 1200 GS (and other R bikes too)
> Model Year: 2007
> Manufacturer: BMW OF NORTH AMERICA, LLC
> NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 10V276000 N/A
> NHTSA Action Number: N/A
> Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC
> Potential Number of Units Affected: 15532
>
> Summary:
> ?BMW IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2007 THROUGH 2009 R 1200 AND K 1200
> SERIES MOTORCYCLES MANUFACTURED FROM AUGUST 2006 THROUGH MAY 2009. DUE TO
> THE CURRENT ROUTING OF THE FRONT BRAKE LINES, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT DURING
> RIDING, AND THEREFORE ASSOCIATED VIBRATION. THE BRAKE LINES COULD BE UNDER
> STRAIN. IF THE VIBRATION/STRAIN IS SIGNIFICANT, THE BRAKE LINE COULD SPLIT
> AND START TO DEVELOP A LEAK.
>
> Consequence:
> ?IF THIS GOES UNNOTICED, AND THE BRAKE FLUID RESERVOIR RUNS EMPTY, THE FRONT
> BRAKES COULD FAIL, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
>
> Remedy:
> ?BMW WILL NOTIFY OWNERS AND DEALERS WILL INSTALL NEW BRAKE LINES, CONTAINING
> A "SLEEVE" ALONG A PORTION OF THE LINES FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL IS
> EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING JULY 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT BMW AT
> 1-800-525-7417.


In all fairness, BMW does mention this at the bottom of their website;)

http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/index.html?content=http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/bikes/endurobikes/r1200gsa/r1200gsa_main_1.html&notrack=1


-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 12:30:24 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 08:30:24 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Not of topic by much...
Message-ID: <AANLkTikZc7KmYV6fTRg4DmmoHEYVnz1T3rmpp6rbRVgr@mail.gmail.com>

Some eye candy to prep you for this weekend...

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/06/29/dining/20100630-grilling-slideshow-2.html

-- 
Sincerely,
Michael
Wilmington, NY
1993 BMW K75

"Go f_ck yourself."
--Jack Riepe.

From motoedde2 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 12:48:12 2010
From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 08:48:12 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] X-Prize in the News
Message-ID: <AANLkTilTtG8_yBai2htZMpBAfug2HxpaDcfhVo071kQr@mail.gmail.com>

Both the West Philadelphia HS team and the Eco-Mobile get a mention...
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/28/automotive-x-prize-competition-heats-up/?hpw



-- 
edde m
93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers),
96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers)
Philadelphia, US
web: motoedde

From mjcantwe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 12:49:41 2010
From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 08:49:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Google voice
Message-ID: <AANLkTik_ibMsyMf08x4UNlQweKhLoJow1tlxlm4qodpJ@mail.gmail.com>

Just curious if anyone has tried google voice? If so, would you care
to opine upon your experience.

-- 
Sincerely,
Michael
Wilmington, NY
1993 BMW K75

"Go f_ck yourself."
--Jack Riepe.

From bergman at panix.com  Wed Jun 30 13:13:15 2010
From: bergman at panix.com (bergman at panix.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:13:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Google voice
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik_ibMsyMf08x4UNlQweKhLoJow1tlxlm4qodpJ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik_ibMsyMf08x4UNlQweKhLoJow1tlxlm4qodpJ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100630091315.23171caf@papriti>

The pithy ruminations from Michael Cantwell <mjcantwe at gmail.com>
with the subject "[MAC-PAC] OT: Google voice" were:

=> Just curious if anyone has tried google voice? If so, would you care
=> to opine upon your experience.

I've been using it for about 2yrs (since it was 'Grandcentral'). Love
it, especially the transcription & voicemail via the web. Great when
traveling overseas.

Mark


 => 
=> -- 
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=> Michael
=> Wilmington, NY
=> 1993 BMW K75
=> 
=> "Go f_ck yourself."
=> --Jack Riepe.
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From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 13:42:57 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:42:57 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Flying car gets go-ahead from the FAA
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxVHzsKk6svA2ZORe0ZtR-zwFtHcwka5AqJXru@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimwkS_rWquUw8kicNtgtWPMDdGNcIM6vE-JLpuZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<0BFD5724D1144DCDA441A0B78E7D334F@9200c>
	<AANLkTikxVHzsKk6svA2ZORe0ZtR-zwFtHcwka5AqJXru@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimt9bha3uFTcMbBd10ZoOtyc8_0GpziC6_ymdV2@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Brian Curry <bmwbrian at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/29/10, Steve Makohin <wateredg at interlog.com> wrote:
>> ?From: "Brian Curry" <bmwbrian at gmail.com>
>
>> ?> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7860966/Terrafugia-Transition-flying-car-gets-go-ahead-from-US-air-authorities.html
>
>> ?Just because it *can* be done, doesn't necessarily mean it *should* be done.
>
> So, this is not a good deal????
> http://www.aerocarforsale.com/


HONDA JET is building a personal commuter jet that takes you to work
at very low altitude, very fast, in Greensboro NC.  First roll out
next year?

ECO Dano

Greensboro, NC

Where we will soon have jet parts falling like rain.

From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 13:51:07 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:51:07 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 2007 R1200GS for sale
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilCvreykS7NTsa8UJJR1E1_8dtQLp16640hV7sm@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilCvreykS7NTsa8UJJR1E1_8dtQLp16640hV7sm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin8CcEYTfS5WxFESWm2mK5e4qQpZwceqKGW2Xar@mail.gmail.com>

> It had several upgrades/additions including these different-looking
> Micatech Pilot aluminum side cases - that's the first I've ever seen

QUESTION:  Are side cases what you call saddlebags in bimmer speak?

You get to read "Pilot" on the side whatzit and each time the wheel
revolves, "Pilot" on the tire?  (If equipped with that tire, [insert
laugh]?)?

Dano

From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 14:18:35 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:18:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Google voice
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik_ibMsyMf08x4UNlQweKhLoJow1tlxlm4qodpJ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik_ibMsyMf08x4UNlQweKhLoJow1tlxlm4qodpJ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinPDndxVojD8d7cknF_oqH0Wxj388KHm3nqGV38@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/30/10, Michael Cantwell <mjcantwe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Just curious if anyone has tried google voice? If so, would you care
>  to opine upon your experience.

I have an account.  I have not used it a lot.  However, I agree with
Mark.  It works well.  It does a good notification and transfer.  The
voice to text works well and it indicates when it thinks that it might
not be right.

It takes and sends txts too.

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From whitfield.dan at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 14:35:14 2010
From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:35:14 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] First EVER!?
Message-ID: <AANLkTinhI9GYH6FYzAVSwaFMwqVuu6otMxI0lNo1-8uH@mail.gmail.com>

(As far as I know)

This is the first time that a major award for world accomplishment has
ever been awarded to a motorcycle related venture. (If it happens?)?

This is the Ansari X-PRIZE, same as Ruttan's space plane.

Gentlemen, I think we are about to see an uptick in demand for FFs,
Dalniks, ECOs, what ever you want to call them, they are just as much
motorcycles as BUB's & Chris Carr's Land Speed Record bike, BUB 7 (if
not more so).

I am proud to be a cheese stake eatin' beer swillin' biker all my
life. Why would I want to amount to anything less?

ECO DANO

From wateredg at interlog.com  Wed Jun 30 14:35:41 2010
From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:35:41 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Flying car gets go-ahead from the FAA
References: <AANLkTimwkS_rWquUw8kicNtgtWPMDdGNcIM6vE-JLpuZ@mail.gmail.com><0BFD5724D1144DCDA441A0B78E7D334F@9200c><AANLkTikxVHzsKk6svA2ZORe0ZtR-zwFtHcwka5AqJXru@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimt9bha3uFTcMbBd10ZoOtyc8_0GpziC6_ymdV2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B3143A510F484BBB87CBAFCC4AE03E61@9200c>

Hello Dan,

From: "Dan Whitfield" <whitfield.dan at gmail.com>

>>> From: "Brian Curry" <bmwbrian at gmail.com>
>>
>>> > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7860966/Terrafugia-Transition-flying-car-gets-go-ahead-from-US-air-authorities.html
>>>
>>> Just because it *can* be done, doesn't necessarily mean it *should* be 
>>> done.
>>>
>> So, this is not a good deal????
>> http://www.aerocarforsale.com/
>
> HONDA JET is building a personal commuter jet that takes you to work at 
> very low altitude, very fast, in Greensboro NC.  First roll out next year?

The Honda Jet is not quite a personal jet. It is considered a "Very Light 
Jet", or VLJ. And because of its twin engines (asymmetrical thrust), the 
transition from a single-engine piston aircraft (a true personal airplane) 
to the Honda Jet is not a simple task. Nor a cheap one. And priced at around 
US$4M, it is more in line with other VLJs, like the Cessna Mustang. 
Acquisition cost, piston to transition training and experience, plus fuel 
and maintenance for two jet engines makes it pretty un-personal.

Meanwhile, the Cirrus Vision SF50 jet is the closest thing to a viable 
"personal" jet we see today (http://cirrusaircraft.com/vision/). With a 
single turbo-fan engine, its center-line thrust and avionics are pretty 
close to Cirrus's SR22GTX advanced single-engine piston aircraft, so it 
promises a much shorter and easier transition from piston to jet. Mind you, 
it's slower, flies lower, and does not have the payload or range of some 
VLJs, but at an "affordable" US$1.8M, it shows the most promise for a true 
"personal jet." In fact, the SF50 occupies a typical mission profile that is 
occupied by only itself and it's competitor, the Diamond D-Jet. It's the 
"sweet spot" above piston singles, and below VLJs and turbo-props. Both 
planes are about 2 years away from certification and production, though 
advanced test models are built and flying now. You can reserve a purchase 
spot today for a mere US$100,000 (non-refundable) deposit. Available in two 
colors, red and silver ;-)

-Steve Makohin
 '01 R1100S/ABS
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada 


From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Wed Jun 30 14:37:07 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:37:07 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] Not of topic by much...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikZc7KmYV6fTRg4DmmoHEYVnz1T3rmpp6rbRVgr@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikZc7KmYV6fTRg4DmmoHEYVnz1T3rmpp6rbRVgr@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <62771.12.181.211.35.1277908627.squirrel@12.181.211.35>

> Some eye candy to prep you for this weekend...
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/06/29/dining/20100630-grilling-slideshow-2.html
>

Mike,

Thanks.  Just what I needed for a non-racing weekend.

Ride Safe,

Joe


From mrmevans at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 15:24:49 2010
From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:24:49 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Flying car gets go-ahead from the FAA
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimt9bha3uFTcMbBd10ZoOtyc8_0GpziC6_ymdV2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimwkS_rWquUw8kicNtgtWPMDdGNcIM6vE-JLpuZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<0BFD5724D1144DCDA441A0B78E7D334F@9200c>
	<AANLkTikxVHzsKk6svA2ZORe0ZtR-zwFtHcwka5AqJXru@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimt9bha3uFTcMbBd10ZoOtyc8_0GpziC6_ymdV2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiltGYDPUHuvI9VqOdbkzZvaq7EbAlGhRFfLLzRR@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> HONDA JET is building a personal commuter jet that takes you to work
> at very low altitude, very fast, in Greensboro NC. ?First roll out
> next year?
>
> ECO Dano
>
> Greensboro, NC
>
> Where we will soon have jet parts falling like rain.

So is the question how long before folks are commuting via thier
personal jets? or how long before we're hearing news reports of
another personal jet accident resulting from a pilot texting while
flying?

-- 
Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA

From jack.riepe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 15:46:35 2010
From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:46:35 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Flying car gets go-ahead from the FAA
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiltGYDPUHuvI9VqOdbkzZvaq7EbAlGhRFfLLzRR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimwkS_rWquUw8kicNtgtWPMDdGNcIM6vE-JLpuZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<0BFD5724D1144DCDA441A0B78E7D334F@9200c>
	<AANLkTikxVHzsKk6svA2ZORe0ZtR-zwFtHcwka5AqJXru@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimt9bha3uFTcMbBd10ZoOtyc8_0GpziC6_ymdV2@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTiltGYDPUHuvI9VqOdbkzZvaq7EbAlGhRFfLLzRR@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilZN3FO_Uw0FZ6EIWOpYIyyhQsB2XmqDuzCBti3@mail.gmail.com>

That already happened... With wo commercial pilots and a plane full of
passengers who overshot the city they were landing in, which may have
been Cleveland, becaue the pilots were answering their email. True
story.

-- 
Fondest regards,
Jack
The Lindbergh Baby
West Chester, Pa

"Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still
have to be nice to them, at first."
? My Mother, Rita Riepe

From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Wed Jun 30 15:53:52 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:53:52 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Flying car gets go-ahead from the FAA
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiltGYDPUHuvI9VqOdbkzZvaq7EbAlGhRFfLLzRR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimwkS_rWquUw8kicNtgtWPMDdGNcIM6vE-JLpuZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<0BFD5724D1144DCDA441A0B78E7D334F@9200c>
	<AANLkTikxVHzsKk6svA2ZORe0ZtR-zwFtHcwka5AqJXru@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimt9bha3uFTcMbBd10ZoOtyc8_0GpziC6_ymdV2@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTiltGYDPUHuvI9VqOdbkzZvaq7EbAlGhRFfLLzRR@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39682.12.181.211.35.1277913232.squirrel@12.181.211.35>

> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Dan Whitfield <whitfield.dan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> HONDA JET is building a personal commuter jet that takes you to work
>> at very low altitude, very fast, in Greensboro NC. ?First roll out
>> next year?
>>
>> ECO Dano
>>
>> Greensboro, NC
>>
>> Where we will soon have jet parts falling like rain.
>
> So is the question how long before folks are commuting via thier
> personal jets? or how long before we're hearing news reports of
> another personal jet accident resulting from a pilot texting while
> flying?
>
>

FWIW, I never, ever text while riding the bicycle.  It was
fan-freakin-tastic this morning on the ride in.

Ride Safe,

Joe


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 16:24:54 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:24:54 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The difference between Math and Engineering..
Message-ID: <AANLkTilkrBsYH-fh07keMGnq972YIdTP5Qy1Kd4IyRJo@mail.gmail.com>

http://wondermark.com/634/
(WS  Gotta see it.)

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From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 16:30:29 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:30:29 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] A 1936 Japanese view of high speed transportation
Message-ID: <AANLkTilZRQEe6VD7GseQJpSxjiUz44xkovKaaJ1xMYEp@mail.gmail.com>

http://pinktentacle.com/2010/06/future-transportation-1936/
(WS)

There is even a "train" version of the Ecomobile!!!

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From jasiii at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 30 18:05:42 2010
From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:05:42 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The difference between Math and Engineering..
Message-ID: <25087024.1277921142318.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>
>http://wondermark.com/634/
>(WS  Gotta see it.)
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Why too true.. and funny.. this one I saved in my humor folder

Jim 

James Sterling III
Ride Safe
<jasiii at earthlink.net>
'96 R1100RS Red of course
MOA 124289
RA  31244
AMA 808881


From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us  Wed Jun 30 18:19:39 2010
From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:19:39 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MAC-PAC] A 1936 Japanese view of high speed transportation
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilZRQEe6VD7GseQJpSxjiUz44xkovKaaJ1xMYEp@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilZRQEe6VD7GseQJpSxjiUz44xkovKaaJ1xMYEp@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54377.12.181.211.35.1277921979.squirrel@12.181.211.35>

> http://pinktentacle.com/2010/06/future-transportation-1936/
> (WS)
>
> There is even a "train" version of the Ecomobile!!!
>

I love the Dyson car.  I probably doesn't clog traffic... Ever.

Ride Safe,

Joe


From bmwbrian at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 20:43:15 2010
From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:43:15 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: A reason why the 2nd Amendment is important
Message-ID: <AANLkTilG4plLwtGtytbxaAAhgEYhqYeRRJs4WZHx294Y@mail.gmail.com>

So, you really can take care of things and really demonstrate your
inner feelings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YftPfsI8XUo
(WS)

Demonstration of what you might have wanted to do more than once when
product support was "not quite right."

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From bmwdick at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 17:40:03 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:40:03 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] You thought the Centralia Ride Was Bizarre?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikSka439fokA2-VvK98hScutCY85u8T6B_7Y_4i@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilE6lNn9MOieCuPequkCeC_PpXXSjMqkR6kIxQu@mail.gmail.com> 
	<5594055.116867.1277776778719.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<AANLkTikSka439fokA2-VvK98hScutCY85u8T6B_7Y_4i@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikRbFo220CFI1FPCQjbAeaQQwbmHk-gdoSbrZDk@mail.gmail.com>

Just what I need, sharing an epiphany with Riepe!

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Michael Cantwell <mjcantwe at gmail.com>wrote:

> You also might want to study up on early renaissance artists. Might I
> suggest Masaccio.
>
>

-- 
BMW-Dick
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I?m not sure
about the universe.?    Albert Einstein.
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From bmwdick at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 10:37:56 2010
From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:37:56 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5 Motorcyclists Killed in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikuBgMqN3UcqcfkzLrUj8z6SrSvDeLE_s2viuBK@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimGX9-ltlXNdJB1MEwUOOzvO9xjjILArnrL6PhP@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTin78pEk3_Aqgt7R5IhYRimOzqMW7zlOA56xCJ4U@mail.gmail.com> 
	<8CCE5B1C1E19878-1E7C-9A73@webmail-d048.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTiltCgoYlT9jgZ_KQD2ffyGcrW_3Bopvx5pfqJKv@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTimBVTgpWhj1Nrdy746Ac3nu63d1zI9i9ehq5V7l@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTinsBqI4nXwMe0KKSL_Q8fHG9YMfy8i_WNQDMzjF@mail.gmail.com> 
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Message-ID: <AANLkTik3ljfW0dM5pbu1bZv-rmnbbGiu-ne1yeAT63tz@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Doug Raymond
<douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com> wrote:

(SNIPPED)

> In this case the taxi van driver is 64, and therefore is not capable of texting.

I'll bet he doesn't swim in a quarry on New Years Day, ride a
motorcycle in sludge on the Haul Road, or tango the night away in
patent leather shoes either. Some folks give up too easily.
-- 
BMW-Dick
Texting with thumb nails since before they invented The Droid.

From chrisjac at ptd.net  Wed Jun 30 11:20:46 2010
From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:20:46 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 2007 R1200GS for sale
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilCvreykS7NTsa8UJJR1E1_8dtQLp16640hV7sm@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilCvreykS7NTsa8UJJR1E1_8dtQLp16640hV7sm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C2B288E.2090101@ptd.net>

Michael Evans wrote:
> I stopped by Martin Moto in Boyertown today. That had a 2007 R1200GS for sale.
>
> It had several upgrades/additions including these different-looking
> Micatech Pilot aluminum side cases - that's the first I've ever seen
> them before.
>
> More details at:
>
> http://www.martinmoto.com/?act=units&uid=548
>
> Anyway, the bike carries a price tag of $12,495 which seems on the
> high end, but then I am not well-versed in GS pricing.
>
>   
Shoot, strap some Samonsite hard luggage on there and you could have the 
same look/functionality for 1/4 the price.    Seriously, who EVER need 
that much storage capacity. 
Might as well own a Gold Wing...lol


Chris Jaccarino

From kgbruce1 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 12:34:00 2010
From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:34:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDERS' DINNER....TOMORROW NIGHT!!!
Message-ID: <AANLkTinqggmhvuCsbKDzs6zBCWeQ6NYqD1gEfebESbw3@mail.gmail.com>

TOMORROW NIGHT!!!

Hear Ye!  Hear Ye!  The time is once again upon us to gather for the monthly
Riders' Dinner!  So, on Wednesday, June 30th (sliding right under the
proverbial wire) the Riders' Dinner will be held at the Four Dogs Tavern,
1300 Strasburg Road, West Chester, Pa 19382 (610) 692-4367.
http://www.thefourdogstavern.com/

The Four Dogs is well known for its beautiful location, extraordinary fare
and notable brew selection (FYWDB).
http://www.zagat.com/Verticals/Menu.aspx?VID=8&R=71848&HID=500004644

The area is surrounded by some excellent roads for pre or post dinner
riding.  The Four Dogs has been a beloved Chester County institution for a
long time and enjoys an outstanding reputation which, according to my lunch
there a week ago, is well deserved!  There was some question as to whether
or not they could accommodate our "separate checks" requirement so I
mentioned to the manager that I know Earle Bare, who lives close by.  The
mention of Earle's name removed all question as the manager said "Oh, well
in that case we DEFINITELY can't do separate checks!".  Deciding I should
try a different approach I said that I also know Charlene at which point the
manager said "Well in that case I guess we can try it."  Funny how that
worked...

The heat and humidity have been quite high lately so I reserved the air
conditioned loft which should fit our gathering nicely and prevent Rob Haut
from enduring another bad hair day. We'll gather at 6:30 p.m. but feel free
to arrive earlier and enjoy the surroundings.

You know the drill, if you can make it, please let me know and if you don't
know til the last minute just show up!  Its a great place and I lied about
us to get the reservation so if Riepe shows up, act like we just met him.

See you TOMORROW NIGHT!

Ken Bruce
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From kgbruce1 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 16:24:00 2010
From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:24:00 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDERS' DINNER....TONIGHT!!!..we're going to the dogs...
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PERFECT WEATHER!!!

Thanks to all who have responded....

Hear Ye!  Hear Ye!  The time is once again upon us to gather for the monthly
Riders' Dinner!  So TONIGHT, June 30th (sliding right under the proverbial
wire) the Riders' Dinner will be held at the Four Dogs Tavern, 1300
Strasburg Road, West Chester, Pa 19382 (610) 692-4367.
http://www.thefourdogstavern.com/

The Four Dogs is well known for its beautiful location, extraordinary fare
and notable brew selection (FYWDB).
http://www.zagat.com/Verticals/Menu.aspx?VID=8&R=71848&HID=500004644

The area is surrounded by some excellent roads for pre or post dinner
riding.   http://tinyurl.com/297jksn  The Four Dogs has been a beloved
Chester County institution for a long time and enjoys an outstanding
reputation which, according to my lunch there a week ago, is well deserved!
There was some question as to whether or not they could accommodate our
"separate checks" requirement so I mentioned to the manager that I know
Earle Bare, who lives close by.  The mention of Earle's name removed all
question as the manager said "Oh, well in that case we DEFINITELY can't do
separate checks!".  Deciding I should try a different approach I said that I
also know Charlene at which point the manager said "Well in that case I
guess we can try it."  Funny how that worked...

The heat and humidity have been quite high lately so I reserved the air
conditioned loft which should fit our gathering nicely and prevent Rob Haut
from enduring another bad hair day. HOWEVER, since the weather for tonight
is PERFECT we'll gather at 6:30 p.m. for dining ALFRESCO, but feel free to
arrive earlier and enjoy the surroundings.

You know the drill, if you can make it, please let me know and if you don't
know til the last minute just show up!  Its a great place and I lied about
us to get the reservation so if Riepe shows up, act like we just met him.

See you TONIGHT!

Ken Bruce
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From kgbruce1 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 17:59:40 2010
From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:59:40 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1999 F650 Funduro
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On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Tom Cutter <tpcutter at aol.com> wrote:

>
> I just recently did a F650ST service for Ken Bruce. I don't really care
> what other shops consider part of a full service, I stripped and
> cleaned Ken's carbs, did some twiddling in them for better throttle
> response, cleaned the whole airbox, new air filter, valve adjustment,
> oil and filter, etc. Now that little thing runs like a champ.
>
>
> --
> Tom Cutter
> Yardley, PA
> http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com
>
> --------------------
Darn, I meant to chime in earlier.  I picked up this '97F650ST in New
Hampshire for my son and rode it back to PA.  For the last couple hundred
miles it was running a bit ragged below 3,500 rpm.

So, before letting my son take it for the summer I dropped it off at RCRG
for a general "going over" as Tom described.   I didn't have a chance to get
the bike "warm" again til Alex and I rode down to Bethany Beach together a
week later (and route 9 is a nice relaxing ride especially for a nervous dad
on his son's first motorcycle trip!)

Now, I believe in Tom but the proof is always in the pudding and I was
REALLY listening to the bike as Alex rode to see if it was running as
smoothly warm as it was running while cool.  I'm very happy to report that
the ride to Bethany Beach went splendidly!  Alex did a good job on the bike
and the bike ran absolutely beautifully thanks to Tom's tune up.

Ken Bruce
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From ladyvol at fastmail.fm  Wed Jun 30 22:18:14 2010
From: ladyvol at fastmail.fm (Jill McCarley)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:18:14 -0400
Subject: [MAC-PAC] 2007 R1200GS for sale
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:20 -0400, "Chris" <chrisjac at ptd.net> wrote:

> Shoot, strap some Samonsite hard luggage on there and you could have the 
> same look/functionality for 1/4 the price.    Seriously, who EVER need 
> that much storage capacity. 

Shoes.  And souvenirs. I mean, duh!

Obviously, this is a chick's bike.

:)

-Jill

PS...I think those things are hideous, too.  They at least need some
stickers.
---------------------------- 
'90 R100GS  
'06 K1200 R  "The Screaming Meanie"

Jill McCarley, MD
Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
Member, Ketchup Advisory Board
"Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness."