From mrmevans at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 02:20:06 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:20:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] R100 Cafe Racer Photos Message-ID: LOTS of pics of the bike and the building of the bike if you have a minute or two or more to waste... http://picasaweb.google.com/BMW.FLATRACER/BMWCafeRacerR100RTTheBlaxerByFlatRacer# -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From tpcutter at aol.com Thu Apr 1 02:43:58 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:43:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: 2003 FXSTB HD Night Train - $10500 (Downingtown) In-Reply-To: <18764d421003311149i62d12de3yf851a34b02978287@mail.gmail.com> References: <20100329232628.04722F51D6@web48p.int.craigslist.org> <18764d421003311149i62d12de3yf851a34b02978287@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CC9F5C502EAA8F-EF0-5C0C@webmail-m100.sysops.aol.com> <> Who said "Those who fail to heed the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them?" BMW tried some "Special Editions" over the years. The Boxer Cup Replika R1100S, the R100 LAST EDITION, the 60th anniversary Airheads, the 1980 R100S Exklusiv Sport, the 1995 R100RT "Classic" etc., etc. After they sold all the 1984 R100 "Last Edition" models, they reintroduced the R100 Airhead in 1988. A LOT of people were very pissed, so BMW sent all the LE buyers a coupon for a free helmet to assuage their pain at being duped. See, everybody figured out pretty quickly that the 1988 R100 models had to be on the drawing board while the 1984 LE models were being promoted and sold, so it was a bold-faced scam. It is impossible, by definition, to make an "Instant Classic." There is no shortage of hucksters trying to convince us otherwise, though. Harley loves to slap some metalflake paint and decals on some 1967 technology and call it "Anniversary Edition." I ask "Anniversary of what? The last time that crap flopped?" All that said, I kind of liked the Night Train. I'd pay $2500 for one. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 03:21:47 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:21:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: How many weasels would you feed???? Message-ID: http://theoatmeal.com/quiz/weasels My body could feed 43 hungry weasels. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From brian at whatever2k.com Thu Apr 1 03:45:38 2010 From: brian at whatever2k.com (Brian Burdette) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:45:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: How many weasels would you feed???? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BB416E2.8010509@whatever2k.com> On 03/31/2010 11:21 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > http://theoatmeal.com/quiz/weasels > My body could feed 43 hungry weasels. Ha. I could feed 69 hungry weasels. -- Brian Burdette -- brian at whatever2k dot com -- Pleasant Hill MO, USA From wayne at 2zars.com Thu Apr 1 10:29:28 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 06:29:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Disney buys MIT Message-ID: http://www.wired.com/thisdayintech/2010/03/disney-buys-mit-april-fools/ (WS) Press Release: http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_year/1998/disney_buys_mit/snapshot/disney.html\ (WS) Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From tpcutter at aol.com Thu Apr 1 12:11:11 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 08:11:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] R100 Cafe Racer Photos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC9FAB8D9E6FD1-438-22F66@webmail-d087.sysops.aol.com> <> Nice. Very nice. Subtle and swoopy at the same time. When I retire I'm going to build stuff like that. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From rogers.george at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 12:28:56 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:28:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: Aerostich Press Release--did you guys see this? Message-ID: Unfortunately, the plain text option doesn't allow the picture of the product. Best wishes, Rogers George Newark, DE http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http://serenitytravelnewark.com http://homegrownhens.com <--not much to see, but it finally works!--- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Aerostich / RiderWearHouse Date: Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:05 AM Subject: Aerostich Press Release To: rogers.george at gmail.com Email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser. 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From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Apr 1 12:48:00 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 08:48:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] R100 Cafe Racer Photos References: Message-ID: http://picasaweb.google.com/BMW.FLATRACER/BMWCafeRacerR100RTTheBlaxerByFlatRacer# > Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA Beautiful, just beautiful ! When did you say you are taking delivery? Thanks, Todd From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 12:59:29 2010 From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (hugh mccann) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:59:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Nature by the numbers Message-ID: http://www.wimp.com/naturenumbers it's all math when you really look at it. Hugh 2007 f650GS "Thumper" collegeville, pa From mrmevans at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 13:46:46 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:46:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] R100 Cafe Racer Photos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/BMW.FLATRACER/BMWCafeRacerR100RTTheBlaxerByFlatRacer# > > Beautiful, just beautiful ! > When did you say you are taking delivery? > > Thanks, > Todd > Todd, As you saw in the photos, there are a few crush washers and fasteners to be bead blasted and refinished yet, so it could be a while. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com Thu Apr 1 13:31:34 2010 From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:31:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 2V K bike fuel injector cleaning Message-ID: Since my 1992 K75S has 77K miles and 18 years of fuel stops now I'm wondering about pulling the 3 fuel injectors and having them cleaned and refurb'd. The bike does run pretty well but I'm feeling a hesitation/bog coming off idle and I'm not sure it's as responsive as it used to be. BUT these changes come on so slowly (and my CRS gets worse each year) that it's hard to be sure. So two questions: a) Is it worth having the injectors cleaned (with new screens and o-ring) at this point? Sound preventative maintenance for this age and mileage? Or a waste of time and money? b) Who should I take them or send them to? Local? Regional? National? Anything so unique about the LE-Jetronic injectors that makes the choice harder or could any decent shop do it cuz injectors are injectors? Thanks, Todd Byrum Gilbertsville, PA From mjcantwe at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 14:30:23 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 10:30:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Help with AutoCAD 2002..... Message-ID: If anyone has any experience with AutoCAD, I'm having an issue that I can't seem to figure out. I'm using express tools textmask command and want to put the 'wipe out' on a different layer. The problem I have is I don't know how to break the wipe out and the text apart. From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 14:39:56 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 10:39:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 2V K bike fuel injector cleaning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Byrum, Todd P wrote: > Since my 1992 K75S has 77K miles and 18 years of fuel stops now I'm wondering about pulling the 3 fuel injectors and having them cleaned and refurb'd. ?The bike does run pretty well but I'm feeling a hesitation/bog coming off idle and I'm not sure it's as responsive as it used to be. ?BUT these changes come on so slowly (and my CRS gets worse each year) that it's hard to be sure. ?So two questions: > > a) Is it worth having the injectors cleaned (with new screens and o-ring) at this point? ?Sound preventative maintenance for this age and mileage? ?Or a waste of time and money? > > b) Who should I take them or send them to? ?Local? ?Regional? National? ?Anything so unique about the LE-Jetronic injectors that makes the choice harder or could any decent shop do it cuz injectors are injectors? > > Thanks, > > Todd Byrum > Gilbertsville, PA > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 14:43:45 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 10:43:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 2V K bike fuel injector cleaning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> a) Is it worth having the injectors cleaned (with new screens and o-ring) at this point? ?Sound preventative maintenance for this age and mileage? ?Or a waste of time and money? >> >> b) Who should I take them or send them to? ?Local? ?Regional? National? ?Anything so unique about the LE-Jetronic injectors that makes the choice harder or could any decent shop do it cuz injectors are injectors? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Todd Byrum >> Gilbertsville, PA Todd, I just routinely run injector cleaner through the gas tank (about as often as oil change). No problems at 91k miles K1200RS power. I do get that hesitation that you speak of occasionally, but that could be the Motronic misbehaving for some other reason (like bad oxygen sensor). Dano From rcavalie at verizon.net Thu Apr 1 14:59:26 2010 From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:59:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Nature by the numbers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001501cad1ab$ecadb3e0$c6091ba0$@net> This beautiful video illustrates the many occurrences of the Fibonacci sequence in nature. The Fibonacci sequence is defined by the recursion: x(n) = x(n-1) + x(n-2) for n = 2, 3, . . .. The seed values are x(0) = 0, and x(1) = 1. These numbers come up so often in mathematics that there is a journal devoted to them: The Fibonacci Quarterly. Nice video Hugh - Thanks. Rick -----Original Message----- From: mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com [mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com] On Behalf Of hugh mccann Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:59 AM To: MAC-PAC Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] OT Nature by the numbers http://www.wimp.com/naturenumbers it's all math when you really look at it. Hugh 2007 f650GS "Thumper" collegeville, pa From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 15:04:41 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:04:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Help with AutoCAD 2002..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can't answer your direct question, but their User Group may be able to http://www.augi.com/forums/default.asp Good Luck! EPH On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Michael Cantwell wrote: > If anyone has any experience with AutoCAD, I'm having an issue that I > can't seem to figure out. I'm using express tools textmask command and > want to put the 'wipe out' on a different layer. The problem I have is > I don't know how to break the wipe out and the text apart. > _______________________________________________ From rcavalie at verizon.net Thu Apr 1 15:33:06 2010 From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:33:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 2V K bike fuel injector cleaning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001b01cad1b0$a08d8940$e1a89bc0$@net> Todd, Last summer I refurbished the injectors on my 1985 K100RT (75,000 miles). Additionally on my bike, the CO needed to be adjusted (don't know why, I never touched the adjustment), and I rebalanced the throttle bodies. All together it was definitely worth it. As you point out, over the years I didn't notice the degraded performance. After the work, there was a noticeable improvement in performance. On my bike, the injector pintels were collapsing and the spray patterns were screwed up. I sent mine to http://kgparts.com/index.php?page=fuelinjectclean&gclid=CO-rkKff44wCFRBPUAod Tysj0Q for cleaning. They pretest them (including spray pattern), clean and renew all replaceable parts (pintels, o-rings, etc.), and then test them again. You get a report detailing what was done and the results. The turn-around time was a week and they do it for $16 per injector. I considered that cheap insurance. They're in NJ, so shipping time is short. I'm a satisfied customer. Rick 1985 K100RT 2009 K1300GT P.S. Although it's considerably more work, you may want to renew the rubber bits on the throttle bodies. Also, on my bike, those rubber nipples sealing the vacuum ports crack and cause vacuum leaks with alarming regularity. -----Original Message----- From: mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com [mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com] On Behalf Of Byrum, Todd P Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 9:32 AM To: 'mac-pac-l at jtan.com' Subject: [MAC-PAC] 2V K bike fuel injector cleaning Since my 1992 K75S has 77K miles and 18 years of fuel stops now I'm wondering about pulling the 3 fuel injectors and having them cleaned and refurb'd. The bike does run pretty well but I'm feeling a hesitation/bog coming off idle and I'm not sure it's as responsive as it used to be. BUT these changes come on so slowly (and my CRS gets worse each year) that it's hard to be sure. So two questions: a) Is it worth having the injectors cleaned (with new screens and o-ring) at this point? Sound preventative maintenance for this age and mileage? Or a waste of time and money? b) Who should I take them or send them to? Local? Regional? National? Anything so unique about the LE-Jetronic injectors that makes the choice harder or could any decent shop do it cuz injectors are injectors? Thanks, Todd Byrum Gilbertsville, PA _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From jack.riepe at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 15:49:02 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:49:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Nature by the numbers In-Reply-To: <001501cad1ab$ecadb3e0$c6091ba0$@net> References: <001501cad1ab$ecadb3e0$c6091ba0$@net> Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: I really enjoyed this little trip down "numbers" lane, but I really don't understand any of it. The builder of that sea shell, is therefore, smarter than I am. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From 321design at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 15:56:21 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:56:21 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Help with AutoCAD 2002..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Michael Cantwell wrote: > If anyone has any experience with AutoCAD, I'm having an issue that I > can't seem to figure out. I'm using express tools textmask command and > want to put the 'wipe out' on a different layer. The problem I have is > I don't know how to break the wipe out and the text apart. I use Solid Works but another designer who used AutoCad in the past said you might try "explode" -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 16:00:34 2010 From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (hugh mccann) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 12:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Nature by the numbers In-Reply-To: References: <001501cad1ab$ecadb3e0$c6091ba0$@net> Message-ID: The maker of the sea shell also made you, Jack. "nobody's prefect" On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: > > I really enjoyed this little trip down "numbers" lane, but I really > don't understand any of it. The builder of that sea shell, is > therefore, smarter than I am. > > > -- > Fondest regards, > Jack > The Lindbergh Baby > West Chester, Pa > > "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still > have to be nice to them, at first." > ? My Mother, Rita Riepe > From rys at R2Controls.com Thu Apr 1 16:23:50 2010 From: rys at R2Controls.com (Rick Rys) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 12:23:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Nature by the numbers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <015801cad1b7$b6d58f70$2480ae50$@com> Hugh, Very beautiful and very well done. I'm checking out the Fibonacci Quarterly right now. Rick Rys R1200GSA From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Apr 1 16:43:14 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:43:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Moto History News for the Vintage Fans Message-ID: <1AE1C08617D7432FA4B54DCEE63AA5E9@dellfe483b726d> Fellow Riders, This is becoming my favorite motorbike website. An incredible source of fascinating information every month. Just a few of the highlights this month: 1) The pink Yamaha, complete with fringe. 2) Fast From the Past to reopen in Newburgh, New York. 3) Motomedia: "Crash Brown, Without Restraint." 4) Springfield: America's dirt track mecca. 5) Roll On Columbus to include antique, custom bike shows. 6) David Uhl liberates us. . . again. 7) From the Web: Dozens of links to entertainment and enlightenment, Motohistory style. 8) Don Bradley releases "Liannan Shee," the Isle of Man's dangerous deity. 9) Motohistory Inquiry: Honoring Fred Perry. 10) Found in Print: Recent books and articles for Motohistorians. 11) Motohistory Feedback: More about the Truab, Feet Forward Design, and Steve McQueen. And, there is a new Motohistory Quiz. So rush to your keyboard to become our latest Motohistory Know-It-All. So if you enjoy this kind of reading, why don't you do yourself a favor and sign up for the monthly email listing. Enjoy! http://www.motohistory.net/news.html From mjcantwe at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 17:14:17 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:14:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Help with AutoCAD 2002..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the suggestions. Come to find out, my problem is actually a printer driver problem when plotting to a pdf. This is a problem with pdf not liking wipe outs. Bummer. I'll have to create a work around. Thanks again, Michael. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Michael Cantwell wrote: >> If anyone has any experience with AutoCAD, I'm having an issue that I >> can't seem to figure out. I'm using express tools textmask command and >> want to put the 'wipe out' on a different layer. The problem I have is >> I don't know how to break the wipe out and the text apart. > > > > I use Solid Works but another designer who used AutoCad in the past > said you might try "explode" > > -- > Rob Haut > West Chester PA > '05 Rockster > '61 FC-170DRW > From mjcantwe at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 17:18:34 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:18:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Nature by the numbers In-Reply-To: <015801cad1b7$b6d58f70$2480ae50$@com> References: <015801cad1b7$b6d58f70$2480ae50$@com> Message-ID: Jack, It all has to do with the golden number, 1.6180339887... . Michael From jasiii at earthlink.net Thu Apr 1 17:29:37 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:29:37 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Nature by the numbers Message-ID: <6299718.1270142978036.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > >Jack, > >It all has to do with the golden number, 1.6180339887... . > >Michael Oh that's right .. share the secret of all engineering.. Go ahead and tell the world.. now someone just might try to study this and learn .. Oh boy.. <> Jim James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From motoedde2 at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 17:37:59 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:37:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Nature by the numbers In-Reply-To: References: <015801cad1b7$b6d58f70$2480ae50$@com> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Michael Cantwell wrote: > Jack, > > It all has to do with the golden number, 1.6180339887... . > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > Another way to look at it may be... Take the height of your belly button from the ground. Take your total height. Divide your total height by the height of your belly button from the ground...and that should provide the Golden ratio;) edde -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From mjcantwe at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 17:48:12 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:48:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Nature by the numbers In-Reply-To: References: <015801cad1b7$b6d58f70$2480ae50$@com> Message-ID: > Another way to look at it may be... > > Take the height of your belly button from the ground. > Take your total height. > Divide your total height by the height of your belly button from the > ground...and that should provide the Golden ratio;) > ...unless, you have unusual body proportions (worded that way as to avoid any problems with my foot and mouth.) From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Apr 1 17:57:52 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 17:57:52 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] 2V K bike fuel injector cleaning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <21173.12.181.211.35.1270144672.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > Since my 1992 K75S has 77K miles and 18 years of fuel stops now I'm > wondering about pulling the 3 fuel injectors and having them cleaned and > refurb'd. The bike does run pretty well but I'm feeling a hesitation/bog > coming off idle and I'm not sure it's as responsive as it used to be. BUT > these changes come on so slowly (and my CRS gets worse each year) that > it's hard to be sure. So two questions: > > a) Is it worth having the injectors cleaned (with new screens and o-ring) > at this point? Sound preventative maintenance for this age and mileage? > Or a waste of time and money? > I did mine last year and it did not make a difference. They were OK per their testing as found and great per there testing as left. I sent them to Which Hunter and they gave me good service at a good price. I would not count on grungy injectors being the silver bullet. Ride Safe, Joe From rcavalie at verizon.net Thu Apr 1 17:59:23 2010 From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:59:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Nature by the numbers In-Reply-To: References: <015801cad1b7$b6d58f70$2480ae50$@com> Message-ID: <002501cad1c5$10550410$30ff0c30$@net> -----Original Message----- From: mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com [mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com] On Behalf Of edde m Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:38 PM To: mac-Pac Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] OT Nature by the numbers snip << Another way to look at it may be... Take the height of your belly button from the ground. Take your total height. Divide your total height by the height of your belly button from the ground...and that should provide the Golden ratio;) edde >> Or just consider (1 + sqrt(5))/2 Rick From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Thu Apr 1 18:22:32 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Nature by the numbers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1975538472.6031861270146152914.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >I really enjoyed this little trip down "numbers" lane, but I really >don't understand any of it. The builder of that sea shell, is >therefore, smarter than I am. The builder of the shell is a Nautilus, a "primitive" cephalopod (related to squid and cuttlefish). They are not smart trust me. But they did inspire Captain Nemo so that should be good enough. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 18:51:36 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 14:51:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Nature by the numbers In-Reply-To: References: <015801cad1b7$b6d58f70$2480ae50$@com> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Michael Cantwell wrote: > Jack, > > It all has to do with the golden number, 1.6180339887... . > > Michael > _______________________________________________ You can get plenty more here http://www.goldennumber.net/ EPH From edreagan at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 21:22:29 2010 From: edreagan at gmail.com (Ed Reagan) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 17:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Warning it is motorcyle season, watch out for bears. Message-ID: I have seen 3 State Police motorcycles with people pulled over on US-22 and I-78 just in the last hour. -- Sent from my mobile device Ed Reagan From chrisjac at ptd.net Thu Apr 1 23:26:52 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:26:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Warning it is motorcyle season, watch out for bears. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BB52BBC.9030608@ptd.net> Ed Reagan wrote: > I have seen 3 State Police motorcycles with people pulled over on > US-22 and I-78 just in the last hour. > > I was in bumper to bumper traffic at a standstill listening to my headset and rocking out on 676 in Philly this late AM as I came back from the Rothman Institure. Suddenly, I heard a siren blast. Heard another blast which was a tad longer, then another which was even longer. I thought to myself, man, that thing is loud (I was stuck under and overpass and I thought the echo helped the loudness). Next thing I hear is the siren going full wail and just left ON. Turns out the Goldwing I was riding on the right side of the lane was blocking the motorcycle cop from splitting lanes to get to an "incident" (i.e, construction). LOL. He must have been there for 10 seconds before I realized I was the culprit and decided to move. LOL Good, I got them back for once. Chris Jaccarino From gary5410 at aol.com Fri Apr 2 00:30:49 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 20:30:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen ...better day Message-ID: <8CCA012E1037503-14C-4EFF@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> Ripped out the Ditra......ouch$$$.....installed hardibacker! Long day, a few blisters, but all is good! Starting the tile tomorrow! Pics.... http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#825241142_Lre9W Gary Christman Fixed '07 R 1200 GS Adventure Hermy's - THUMBS UP!!! From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Apr 2 00:50:30 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 20:50:30 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen ...better day In-Reply-To: <8CCA012E1037503-14C-4EFF@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA012E1037503-14C-4EFF@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: >Ripped out the Ditra......ouch$$$.....installed hardibacker! Long day, >a few blisters, but all is good! >Starting the tile tomorrow! >Pics.... > >http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#825241142_Lre9W > Damn, you're an animal! You're cookin'!! Great progress. Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 01:27:41 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 21:27:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: Aerostich Press Release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This from John Burkhauser: ======================== April 1, 2010 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Aerostich Gear Xpander Wash New 2010 Aerostich RiderWearhouse Catalog ________________________________ New Gear Xpander Wash The 2010 Aerostich and RiderWearHouse catalog introduces Gear Xpander Wash, a new fabric treatment for the rider whose jacket, pants or riding suit has mysteriously become smaller over the winter. The concentrated wash-in formula works at a sub-molecular level to soften the internal fiber structure of textiles, providing an expansion of up to one full garment size. Garment strength and durability are not affected. After washing, riders immediately wear their damp gear for 20 minutes, which allows the fibers to re-conform where needed. Then the garment is machine-dried to 'set' the fabric at the newly expanded size. Treated suits should not be worn in rainy or damp conditions as the fibers will return to the original pre-expanded size, which can be a choking hazard. Gear Xpander Wash is $847 per 5 oz bottle. http://www.aerostich.com/pressroom/images/pr20100401/GearXpander.pdf ________________________________ New 2010 Catalog The just released 2010 Aerostich/RiderWearHouse catalog contains Gear Xpander Wash, and over one hundred other all-new items, plus dozens of customer-supplied photos, sidebar articles, guides and non-commercial content. Riders looking through the free 228 page catalog find thousands of useful and competitively priced products for all types of riding. Everything is in-stock and available for immediate shipping. The complete catalog may also be browsed and searched at the updated www.aerostich.com website, which features an animated 'mix & match' suit color selector, a digital self-sizing tool, some unique historical and entertaining items, and a few Easter eggs to keep things interesting. If you still have some money, ordering is easy and secure. And if not, the catalog is still FREE. Get yours at catalog at aerostich.com or 800 222 1994. Gear Xpander Wash Features: Expands garments up to one full size. Wash-in formula softens internal fiber structure. For all synthetic fiber textiles. Wash, wear and dry to 'set' new size. April Fools (not the 2010 Riderwearhouse catalog). ________________________________ To get a free catalog, call 800 222 1994 or email catalog at aerostich.com. To order or for further information, call Aerostich/RiderWearHouse at: 800 222 1994, FAX: 218 720 3610 -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA?? | Brian Curry??????????|??????Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER"????????|??????Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts?? |??????Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA?? |??????http://www.nsevideos.com From misevich at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 02:09:57 2010 From: misevich at gmail.com (Dave Misevich) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 22:09:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen nightmare has begun In-Reply-To: <8CC9E9E2C628DCF-1210-2BEB@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9E9E2C628DCF-1210-2BEB@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Gary Christman wrote: > I had contractor that needed some work and he came out to install the > Ditra that goes down before the tile.......I was sick when I got > home...awful job. > I think (know) I'm going to have to rip it all up! Lots of air bubbles, > wrinkles, highspots of thick mortar and appears to only be attached > properly on about 20% of the floor! WTF!!!!!!!!!! Dang, that's too bad Gary. Ditra is a great membrane but the membrane that installed it didn't know what he was doing. By the looks of it that was almost re-usable, I didn't see much if any thinset stuck to the fleece! It's supposed to be installed with a pretty loose mix, and the installer should always peel back and inspect to verify proper coverage. The fleece on the membrane should be wet with thinset. -- Dave Misevich Dexter, MI '85 K100RT '98 R1100RT From gary5410 at aol.com Fri Apr 2 02:26:55 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 22:26:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Daughter :-) Message-ID: <8CCA02318DCE894-14C-5F44@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> My daughter Kelsey was promoted to THE Designer of Joan and David shoes today!!! This is Nine West's top brand. She's a little bit excited at 24, youngest designer ever at Nine West. Her boss's boss said "When you have a Micheal Jordan on your team, you've got to treat them as Micheal Jordan!" I guess she's pretty good at that designing stuff! She was told she will have creative freedom over the brand....woohoo for her!! Thanks for letting me brag a little! That what fathers do. Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 03:57:07 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 23:57:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cabin crew like this might get Jack back in the air Message-ID: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1262754/Naked-Spanish-cabin-crew-model-wages.html -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 04:07:09 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 00:07:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The 12 truths Message-ID: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1925.txt (WS, pointed at networking but has a LOT of applicability in meat space too.) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 04:16:18 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 00:16:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Yahoo, is going "open" and "to the cloud" Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFaIEhltvCc (WS, and revealing....) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From rogers.george at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 11:52:14 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 07:52:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] once again, Tom demonstrates his genius at BMWs Message-ID: You might recall my mentioning an electrical problem with my bike a week or so back. Cutter replied to me offline with his solution. I finally got the part installed last night. It worked! Hooray! Best wishes, Rogers George Newark, DE http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http://serenitytravelnewark.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Apr 2 11:52:24 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 07:52:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Daughter :-) In-Reply-To: <8CCA02318DCE894-14C-5F44@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BB5A238.21285.57DF692@localhost> > My daughter Kelsey was promoted to THE Designer of Joan and David > shoes today!!! This is Nine West's top brand. She's a little bit > excited at 24, youngest designer ever at Nine West. Gary, That is fantastic. Good luck to her. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 12:00:59 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 08:00:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Daughter :-) In-Reply-To: <4BB5A238.21285.57DF692@localhost> References: <8CCA02318DCE894-14C-5F44@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> <4BB5A238.21285.57DF692@localhost> Message-ID: Congratulations to your daughter, Gary! When I first met her, I thought she was a high school student. I have always wanted to meet a star of the fashion world. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From piechota at argolis.org Fri Apr 2 12:08:59 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:08:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jobs that are no more In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BB5DE5B.2000403@argolis.org> Brian Curry wrote: > On 3/24/10, Brian Curry wrote: >> On 3/24/10, edde m wrote: >> > Why exactly are you letting the liberal propaganda machine(NPR) >> > infiltrate this list? >> > Why hasn't Dick chastised you yet? >> >> >> Let me see if he has. > > Nope. > I'm just getting to some back mail, but that was so good I had to reply. From ephoet at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 12:27:20 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 08:27:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Careful Riding in NJ Message-ID: No more targeting of pedestrians.......... EPH ------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.philly.com/philly/news/new_jersey/20100401_New__strict_yield-to-pedestrians_law_in_N_J_.html Drivers in New Jersey will be required to come to a complete stop when approaching a pedestrian in a crosswalk under a law that goes into effect Thursday. The statute, taking effect four years into a statewide campaign to cut down on accidents, represents the first pedestrian-related change in New Jersey traffic law in five decades. "No longer will crossing the street be a game of chicken," Pam Fischer, the New Jersey Division of Highway Traffic Safety director, said Wednesday at a news conference in Cherry Hill. "Motorists who fail to abide by the law will get hit in the pocketbook." New Jersey has one of the highest rates of pedestrian fatalities in the country, with 27 percent of auto fatalities in 2008 involving pedestrians, almost twice the national rate, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. The law applies to both marked and unmarked crosswalks, which the state traffic code designates as existing at the intersection of any two roadways. It calls for violators to be assessed up to $200 fine and two points on their driver's licenses, as well as 15 days of community service. From jasiii at earthlink.net Fri Apr 2 12:31:58 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:31:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Daughter :-) In-Reply-To: <8CCA02318DCE894-14C-5F44@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: > Jordan!" I guess she's pretty good at that designing stuff! > She was told she will have creative freedom over the brand....woohoo > for her!! > Thanks for letting me brag a little! That what fathers do. > Gary Christman Congratulations !!! It is always good when our children exceed what we have done.. And designing is not easy.. Trying to figure out the "what will be" for the next season takes a lot of skill, time and knowledge Congratulations to you, your wife and your daughter Jim -- Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From piechota at argolis.org Fri Apr 2 12:40:37 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:40:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So much for EVER believing a picture sometime in the not to distant future In-Reply-To: <7fbead931003260918m1618ff48v863e10c60adbc685@mail.gmail.com> References: <4BAC5AAB.18808.139724A9@localhost> <4BACD149.4060906@juno.com> <7fbead931003260918m1618ff48v863e10c60adbc685@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BB5E5C5.4040709@argolis.org> Wayne Woodruff wrote: >> If you don't have to have the latest copy of Photoshop, buy a generation >> earlier more cheaply. When CS4 came out I got a copy of CS3 at a >> substantial savings, and am now in the loop to get a later generation at >> the upgrade price. > > Another trick is to purchase an Educational License for your child :-) > Adobe is very generous. DAMHIK > Hey man, the first hit is free. Software companies figured out that if you nearly give something away to youngins, they will get used to using it and want it in the future, ideally paying for it. It's a tough call in some ways. You can go download GIMP for free right now and play with it. Or you can get on the Adobe upgrade treadmill where every X years you'll have to shell out more money. The big issue here is a graphical designer that doesn't know how to use photoshop may have reduced job prospects. If you're just looking to edit some photos, it would seem silly to not at least try GIMP. http://www.gimp.org/ From piechota at argolis.org Fri Apr 2 12:46:16 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:46:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Bull Flugtag anyone? In-Reply-To: <2028233324.3973361269738937174.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <2028233324.3973361269738937174.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4BB5E718.7010906@argolis.org> johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > No I am not talking about watching. > > For those who have never seen the ads it is for homemade flying machines that go off of a 30 foot platform. Its stupid, which is right up our alley! > > Its in Philly on Sept. 4. We have enough aeronautic guys in the Pac, and probably a couple of guys crazy enough to pilot the thing. Deadline for entry is May 18. Here is the URL: > > http://redbullflugtagusa.com/Philadelphia2010 I'd fly it. Please work that into the wing loading calculations. :) From piechota at argolis.org Fri Apr 2 12:47:14 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:47:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] computer problem and GPS unit down In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BB5E752.6000001@argolis.org> Alain Kaldewaay wrote: > Folks what is happing to me, > > Lap-top is down both in normal and safe mode the computer screen is blank the mouse works that is it !!! > The BMW Zumo 550 shuts down when I put in the address of a location !!! > Any help would be great ? Alain, Do you have an old monitor around to plug into the laptop? It might 'just' be the screen that's malfunctioning. From piechota at argolis.org Fri Apr 2 12:49:37 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: How many weasels would you feed???? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BB5E7E1.3050505@argolis.org> Brian Curry wrote: > http://theoatmeal.com/quiz/weasels > My body could feed 43 hungry weasels. > 88, baby! (oh wait, more probably isn't better...) From dbcase at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 12:50:08 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 08:50:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So much for EVER believing a picture sometime in the not to distant future In-Reply-To: References: <4BAC5AAB.18808.139724A9@localhost> <4BACD149.4060906@juno.com> <7fbead931003260918m1618ff48v863e10c60adbc685@mail.gmail.com> <7fbead931003261046o3dd10169k977d35d0a79eba37@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: motoedde asks: >> > Do realize the educational opportunity this presents for your kids in > terms of educating them about arbitrage? > > I wonder if the last name has to match or if Adobe has the right to > know if your kid is legimate? > > -- > edde m Generally, there is a caveat to student versions of software. Many, if not all of the CAD programs will force a banner along the margin, but obnoxiously bold enough, that says "EDUCATIONAL VERSION, NOT FOR MANUFACTURE" or somesuch. Such a banner may be in the Adobe student versions as well. Dave Case Lansdale, PA From dbcase at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 12:57:17 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 08:57:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: How many weasels would you feed???? In-Reply-To: <4BB5E7E1.3050505@argolis.org> References: <4BB5E7E1.3050505@argolis.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Matt Piechota wrote: > Brian Curry wrote: >> http://theoatmeal.com/quiz/weasels >> ?My body could feed 43 hungry weasels. >> 42. They guy with the lowest weasel weight should fly the Redbull Flugzug. Theo, better get on this! We're waiting for your 19 (plus the crazy helmet). :) Dave Case From piechota at argolis.org Fri Apr 2 13:04:29 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:04:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The 12 truths In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BB5EB5D.7030605@argolis.org> Brian Curry wrote: > http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1925.txt > (WS, pointed at networking but has a LOT of applicability in meat space too.) Number 10 is something that I really believe in, especially when people start arguing about 'best'. From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Fri Apr 2 13:23:55 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 13:23:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: How many weasels would you feed???? In-Reply-To: <1904942337.6310451270214556203.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <914567407.6311371270214635465.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >> http://theoatmeal.com/quiz/weasels >> My body could feed 43 hungry weasels. >> I could feed 93. But they sent me a note declining, saying "Your too gamy, we want to eat Matt." John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From ephoet at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 13:59:32 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:59:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: How many weasels would you feed???? In-Reply-To: <914567407.6311371270214635465.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1904942337.6310451270214556203.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <914567407.6311371270214635465.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:23 AM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > > >>> http://theoatmeal.com/quiz/weasels >>> My body could feed 43 hungry weasels. >>> > > I could feed 93. But they sent me a note declining, saying "Your too gamy, we want to eat Matt." > I dunno John, I thought that was what "bacon" was for. Getting rid of "gamy". But I could be mistaken! EPH From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Apr 2 14:30:42 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:30:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] once again, Tom demonstrates his genius at BMWs References: Message-ID: <4AD4BD853399410181CA47E9F0CB5F04@dellfe483b726d> > You might recall my mentioning an electrical problem with my bike a > week or so back. Cutter replied to me offline with his solution. > I finally got the part installed last night. It worked! Hooray! > > Best wishes, > Rogers George Rogers, That's terrific ! So we will be looking for you on May 2nd and try to round up the rest of the Delaware contingent too. Todd From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Apr 2 14:38:50 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 10:38:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So much for EVER believing a picture sometime in the not to distant future In-Reply-To: References: <4BAC5AAB.18808.139724A9@localhost> <4BACD149.4060906@juno.com> <7fbead931003260918m1618ff48v863e10c60adbc685@mail.gmail.com> <7fbead931003261046o3dd10169k977d35d0a79eba37@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > Generally, there is a caveat to student versions of software. ?Many, > if not all of the CAD programs will force a banner along the margin, > but obnoxiously bold enough, that says "EDUCATIONAL VERSION, NOT FOR > MANUFACTURE" or somesuch. ?Such a banner may be in the Adobe student > versions as well. > At least for Lightroom, there is no such thing. Photoshop may be different -- Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Apr 2 14:16:24 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:16:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Warning it is motorcyle season, watch out for bears. References: Message-ID: <53D303FD3426484DA1FAC28BDAF52BA4@dellfe483b726d> >I have seen 3 State Police motorcycles with people pulled over on > US-22 and I-78 just in the last hour. > Ed Reagan Alert ....... The coffers are showing a negative balance. An intercepted ABP reveals orders for all troopers to ticket anything that moves !! :) I did read an article yesterday that stated police in some jurisdictions are ticketing drivers for exceeding the posted limit even if only by 2 -3 mph. There used to be a 5mph buffer zone...................no more as revenues are at record lows. Be careful out there. Todd PS. Say Ed, did you notice if those State Troopers were sporting the blue and white roundel. If so, sign them up for "Ride for the Record, Ride for the Cure" on May 2nd. We could use there services...........Hey we'll even feed them. From chrisjac at ptd.net Fri Apr 2 14:56:05 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:56:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Warning it is motorcyle season, watch out for bears. In-Reply-To: <53D303FD3426484DA1FAC28BDAF52BA4@dellfe483b726d> References: <53D303FD3426484DA1FAC28BDAF52BA4@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <4BB60585.8090504@ptd.net> Todd Trumbore wrote: > > We could use there services...........Hey we'll even > feed them. > I better not post what came to my mind. Chris Jaccarino From motoedde2 at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 16:54:18 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 12:54:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT kitchen ...better day In-Reply-To: <8CCA012E1037503-14C-4EFF@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA012E1037503-14C-4EFF@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Gary Christman wrote: > Ripped out the Ditra......ouch$$$.....installed hardibacker! Long day, > a few blisters, but all is good! > Starting the tile tomorrow! > Pics.... > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#825241142_Lre9W Nice work...you've done quite a bit of heavy lifting..hope you invested in some nice kneepads. Can't wait to see the next step! edde -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From mrmevans at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 17:18:43 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 13:18:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So much for EVER believing a picture sometime in the not to distant future In-Reply-To: References: <4BAC5AAB.18808.139724A9@localhost> <4BACD149.4060906@juno.com> <7fbead931003260918m1618ff48v863e10c60adbc685@mail.gmail.com> <7fbead931003261046o3dd10169k977d35d0a79eba37@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 8:50 AM, David Case wrote: > > Generally, there is a caveat to student versions of software. ?Many, > if not all of the CAD programs will force a banner along the margin, > but obnoxiously bold enough, that says "EDUCATIONAL VERSION, NOT FOR > MANUFACTURE" or somesuch. ?Such a banner may be in the Adobe student > versions as well. > Yes, CAD has been like that for some time. Sometimes they even offer academic verisions that are behind a version of two from the commercial release. When I used to work for one of the big CAD companies, we used to charge close to $6,000 for a full seat of CAD software versus $199 for an academic license. The price differences between retail and student with things like Office or Photoshop are much narrower. After this conversation I will be looking into GIMP. I currently use PaintShop Pro for $99 although I have used Photoshop and side by side, there is a noticeable difference (better) with much of what Photoshop can do versus Paintshop Pro. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From Doug at pencader.com Fri Apr 2 19:29:13 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:29:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Daughter :-) In-Reply-To: <8CCA02318DCE894-14C-5F44@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA02318DCE894-14C-5F44@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <010501cad29a$c91f03d0$5b5d0b70$@com> Gary C. wrote; >>>snips > My daughter Kelsey was promoted to THE Designer of Joan and David shoes > today!!! This is Nine West's top brand. >>> sneaker snips > I guess she's pretty good at that designing stuff! >>> end Gary, Wow, VERY impressive. I only vaguely remember what I was doin' at 24 yrs. of age . . . and I am SURE it had very little to do with bein' responsible. Congratulations to you and Ms. Christman. Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 19:28:53 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:28:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Friday Funny: We are SO ahead of the curve... Message-ID: http://www.uclick.com/client/spi/cl/ (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 19:30:46 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:30:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The "peeps" show Message-ID: Appropriate for the current times http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2010/03/29/GA2010032903934.html (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 19:32:31 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:32:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: So you are new to Facebook Message-ID: Instructional film on how to behave and be well regarded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iROYzrm5SBM (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From gary5410 at aol.com Fri Apr 2 20:20:08 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 16:20:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen tile started Message-ID: <8CCA0B905F81B3C-14C-EC72@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> Got started tiling....not quite halfway. Taking a break till Monday! http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#825886897_BZHnw Gary Christman '07 R1200 GS Adventure From 321design at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 21:02:09 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 17:02:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen tile started In-Reply-To: <8CCA0B905F81B3C-14C-EC72@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA0B905F81B3C-14C-EC72@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Gary Christman wrote: > Got started tiling....not quite halfway. Taking a break till Monday! > > Looking great. Nice to see some tile down; there is light at the end of the tunnel. -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From jasiii at earthlink.net Fri Apr 2 22:31:24 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:31:24 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen tile started Message-ID: <4366196.1270247484697.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >Got started tiling....not quite halfway. Taking a break till Monday! > >http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#825886897_BZHnw > >Gary Christman That looks great .. nice work.. You may have a future career in tile work Jim James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 23:06:55 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 19:06:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Windows 7 less vulnerable without admin rights Message-ID: Something that has been said here many times. http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20001359-245.html "Ninety percent of critical Microsoft Windows 7 vulnerabilities can be mitigated by configuring the operating system for standard user rather than administrator, according to a new report released on Monday." There is a chart showing that the impact on other Windoze varieties is pretty significant too. Those that have had to visit the Computer Dr to get their "unpleasantness" removed from their computer might think seriously about NORMALLY running as a limited or standard user. There is one gotcha here. If you have been running as Admin for a long time, all that stuff you did as an Admin would no longer be available. A work around is to create a NEW Admin account. "King, Emperor, HeadNazi, Peon, Minion, etc" and then change the current Admin account to a limited or standard user so that all stuff you did is still available. Doug Raymond did this and I think it worked decent. Oh, and if you are getting or just got a new machine building a standard or limited user account "first thing" is the ticket. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 23:17:35 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 19:17:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Blind and going how fast???? Message-ID: 178 mph.... http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6311K220100402 (WS) "Turkish pop-singer Metin Senturk became the world's fastest unaccompanied blind driver on Friday and said he felt he had danced with death. Senturk wept as he emerged from a Ferrari F430 at Urfa airport in eastern Turkey to learn from Guinness World Records officials his average speed of 292.89 kph broke the previous record of 284 kph, held by a British bank manager." The number of things that could go wrong are not small. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 23:24:27 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 19:24:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Those Smart cars are tougher than they might look. Message-ID: Ice Road Truckin? in a Smart ForTwo http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/04/dempster-highway-smart-fortwo/ (WS) "I?m at the wheel of the diminutive 1,800-pound Smart ForTwo and I?m doing 70 on an iced gravel road 15 feet wide. It would be harrowing under the best of circumstances, but I?m coming up on an 18-wheeler carrying 20 tons of oil pipes. Snowbanks on either side of me stand 6 feet high, so there?s nowhere to go but straight ahead." I was impressed that the engine started WITHOUT a block heater. A whopping 3 cylinders totalling 1000ccs. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Fri Apr 2 23:24:52 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 23:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Gassing day tomorrow! Message-ID: <442125438.6504571270250692941.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >April 3, 2010 - Gassing Day Gathering, Quentin, PA > >The Pennsylvania Airheads and the Mac-Pac will start the season with a Gassing Day lunch gathering in >Quentin, PA. > >We'll commemorate the moment at 1:00pm EDST at the Quentin Haus Restaurant, (717) 272-6475, at the >intersection of PA Rte 72 and Rte 419. This location is east of Harrisburg and south of Lebanon, PA. This is >also just north of PA Turnpike Exit 266. Let me know if you're coming so I can reserve tables. We can enjoy >lunch then sun ourselves in the parking lot until it's time to roll. If the weather is still wintery, bring the car. >People are more important than motorcycles. As of right now the weather is supposed to be beautiful on Saturday (80 degrees and partly sunny). Make a longer day of it and plan to stop at my house before going up to Quentin for gassing day. I am about 1/2 hour from Quentin all on nice back roads. My garage doors will open up around 10AM. There will be coffee and donuts for those interested. If you plan on stopping by let me know so I know how much stuff to have on hand. Feel free to stop by even if your not going to gassing day. Berks County is full of interesting back roads. Address is 16 Austin Dr. Robesonia PA We are on Google maps, but were only added a couple of months ago, and the road is paved, not dirt as shown. If you have not updated your GPS maps recently it may not be on there. Find the intersection of 5 Point Rd and Sportsman Rd. in Robesonia. Austin drive is off of 5 Point. Drop me a off list e-mail if you would like my phone number. See ya! John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Apr 2 23:42:39 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 19:42:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen tile started In-Reply-To: <8CCA0B905F81B3C-14C-EC72@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA0B905F81B3C-14C-EC72@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 16:20:08 -0400, you wrote: >Got started tiling....not quite halfway. Taking a break till Monday! > > > >http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#825886897_BZHnw > Very nice, I like your choice of tiles! It's going to look great! Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From wateredg at interlog.com Sat Apr 3 00:50:06 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:50:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Those Smart cars are tougher than they might look. References: Message-ID: <5B83595696C0438E8B715FC1F20B5531@9200c> Hello Brian, FYI, in the event of a collision, the Smart Car protects its occupants as well as a Mercedes E-class, which is a mid-size car. That's pretty good, I'd say. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From rsorens at comcast.net Sat Apr 3 02:58:53 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 22:58:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Warning it is motorcyle season, watch out for bears. In-Reply-To: <53D303FD3426484DA1FAC28BDAF52BA4@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: Todd says: >I did read an article yesterday that stated police in some jurisdictions are ticketing drivers for >exceeding the posted limit even if only by 2 -3 mph. >There used to be a 5mph buffer zone...................no more as revenues are at record lows >>>>> I saw this same issue come up on the LDRider list the other day. The fact is that they HAVE NOT changed the PA vehicle code. So, actually, while the incidence of getting stopped may go way up, at least in Pennsylvania the vehicle code (sub-section 3368) says that when using an approved measuring device, whether it's electronic, timing or a calibrated speedometer, "No person may be convicted upon evidence obtained through the use of devices authorized by paragraphs (2) and (3) unless the speed recorded is six or more miles per hour in excess of the legal speed limit. Furthermore, no person may be convicted upon evidence obtained through the use of devices authorized by paragraph (3) in an area where the legal speed limit is less than 55 miles per hour if the speed recorded is less than ten miles per hour in excess of the legal speed limit." Except when obtained in a school zone or active work zone. The 'cushion' is specifically in the vehicle code. I still think a good schmooze is one of the best methods - talk to Tom Cutter: 'king of schmooze'! Write all the tickets ya want officer....it will end up costing the state MORE money if all those folks who get written at 1-5 over or 1-10 over actually go to trial. Rick Sorensen From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Apr 3 03:10:40 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 23:10:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The "peeps" show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4BB67970.4504.8C6A6FD@localhost> > Appropriate for the current times > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2010/03/29/GA2010 > 032903934.html (WS) > Great stuff. The Dilles love them. Matt and I like to nuke them for ~7 seconds and watch them puff up. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From gary5410 at aol.com Sat Apr 3 03:32:17 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 23:32:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Daughter :-) In-Reply-To: <010501cad29a$c91f03d0$5b5d0b70$@com> References: <8CCA02318DCE894-14C-5F44@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> <010501cad29a$c91f03d0$5b5d0b70$@com> Message-ID: <8CCA0F565309DF9-BE4-2512@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> Thanks for all the kudo's everyone!!!! Gary Christman The proud papa > My daughter Kelsey was promoted to THE Designer of Joan and David ......... From jack.riepe at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 06:41:09 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 02:41:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen tile started In-Reply-To: <8CCA0B905F81B3C-14C-EC72@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA0B905F81B3C-14C-EC72@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: dear Gary: This is going to be a beautiful kitchen. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Sat Apr 3 14:52:18 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:52:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Warning it is motorcyle season, watch out for bears. References: Message-ID: <001701cad33d$42311860$4001a8c0@FastHP> > Todd says: > >>I did read an article yesterday that stated police in some jurisdictions > are ticketing drivers for >>exceeding the posted limit even if only by 2 -3 mph. >>There used to be a 5mph buffer zone...................no more as revenues > are at record lows > The article I read was not specific to Pennsylvania. It was talking in a general sense saying "Some jurisdictions" across the country. Marge From mrmevans at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 21:41:02 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:41:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Project Complete Message-ID: I had the parts sitting around since last fall - today I finally had the motivation and opportunity to put them on the bike. Fall before last I took a spill on the bike--very minor damage: cracked the fairing and bent the bars and the mirror on one side. Last year was not a year of many moto miles for me so these things never got tended to. The closest I came was near the end of the year when I finally ordered a new set of bars, grips, bar ends and mirrors. There they sat until today. I think it was the combination of the great weather and my entire family getting tired of tripping over the parts box sitting on the floor of the garage that motivated me to do it today. The installation was pretty simple - I removed the existing bar ends, mirrors and grips, then removed all the controls. Upon reassembly I noted that the powder coating on the right side of the bar extended slightly into the throttle control territory. When I slipped on the controls, they went on a little too snugly as a result, and upon testing the throttle movement it would not return on it's own. Simple enough to remedy - Pull it back off, mark where the end of the throttle would be, and carefully file off the extra thickness that was causing the problem. Reinstall and all works well. The only casualty of the day occured when I pulled a Jack Riepe - I used a small screwdriver to pry the 'chrome' plugs from the top of the socket head bolts so I could remove them and thus remove the handlebars. The first one I pried off shot at the speed of light to who knows where in my garage. So now the bike is reassembled with only three of the four 'decorative' plugs. Hope all who 'Gassed' today had a great one. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 22:31:47 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 18:31:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Gerry, Peter, Reconnoitering mission on April 12th at KFC? Message-ID: http://consumerist.com/2010/04/kfcs-bacon-sandwich-on-fried-chicken-bread-kills-people-everywhere-on-april-12.html (WS, Health not so much) I think Jack would need a LOT of water to go with the salt in it too!! Might need an ambulance standing by for Gerry, and need to know of Peter Frechie is on alert. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From 321design at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 23:19:08 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 19:19:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] A few Gassing Day photos... Message-ID: Cuppla pictures from the Gassing Day gathering today. Fantastic day for a ride though farm lands. You do smell A LOT out that way when riding. http://picasaweb.google.com/321design/100403GasserRide# -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From bmwdick at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 12:17:17 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:17:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Aerostich Message-ID: I'm ordering a case of this stuff. Let me know if you want some. http://us1.campaign-archive.com/?u=ee4b1c8a3cb628702757dff67&id=769be1fd64&e=fcead78111 -- BMW-Dick Psalm 109:8 From bmwdick at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 11:00:39 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 07:00:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Daughter :-) In-Reply-To: <8CCA02318DCE894-14C-5F44@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA02318DCE894-14C-5F44@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Gary Christman wrote: > My daughter Kelsey was promoted to THE Designer of Joan and David shoes > today!!! This is Nine West's top brand. She's a little bit excited at > 24, youngest designer ever at Nine West. Her boss's boss said "When you > have a Micheal Jordan on your team, you've got to treat them as Micheal > Jordan!" I guess she's pretty good at that designing stuff! > She was told she will have creative freedom over the brand....woohoo > for her!! > Thanks for letting me brag a little! That what fathers do. > Gary Christman > '07 R 1200 GS Adventure > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > How is she at installing Ditra? It sounds like Kelsey got good genes and the right kind of "fetching up" and she's applying them. Congratulations. -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 23:09:53 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 19:09:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Gerry, Peter, Reconnoitering mission on April 12th at KFC? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Brian: I think we should order stents with the Mac-Pac logo. Dick On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > > http://consumerist.com/2010/04/kfcs-bacon-sandwich-on-fried-chicken-bread-kills-people-everywhere-on-april-12.html > (WS, ?Health not so much) > > I think Jack would need a LOT of water to go with the salt in it too!! > > Might need an ambulance standing by for Gerry, and need to know of > Peter Frechie is on alert. > From gary5410 at aol.com Sat Apr 3 23:40:37 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:40:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] A few Gassing Day photos... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCA19E32919697-328-1952B@webmail-m044.sysops.aol.com> Looks like a good group, great day! Sorry I wasn't riding! Thanks for the pics. Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure -----Original Message----- From: Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> Cuppla pictures from the Gassing Day gathering today. Fantastic day for a ride though farm lands. You do smell A LOT out that way when riding. http://picasaweb.google.com/321design/100403GasserRide# -- From Doug at pencader.com Sun Apr 4 00:04:38 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 20:04:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] A few Gassing Day photos... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01aa01cad38a$6d0fcca0$472f65e0$@com> Rob wrote; >>> snips Subject: [MAC-PAC] A few Gassing Day photos... Cuppla pictures from the Gassing Day gathering today. Fantastic day for a ride though farm lands. You do smell A LOT out that way when riding. http://picasaweb.google.com/321design/100403GasserRide# >>> end Rob, Thanks for getting' some good shots of the "crowd". My guess is that about 60 folks made it . . . saw some nice bikes, too. A good time was had by all. However, I was disappointed that the 80 degrees that Hurricane Schwartz was promisin' for the past 4 or 5 days never happened - but the sun finally did show up, and the ridin' was great. Thanks again for the pix. Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From reopropf at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 00:04:22 2010 From: reopropf at gmail.com (Peter Frechie) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 20:04:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: Gerry, Peter, Reconnoitering mission on April 12th at KFC? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Called it the death sandwich; dessert ought be Mylanta. Appointments for 'packers" will be handled within 24 hours, and ongoing chest pain should NOT be ignored. ?I am available 24/7; will cath at Abington, Jeanes, HolyRedeemer, or Aria Torresdale as needed. Better yet, ?eat salad, fruit and drink lots of water in addition to some exercise; lose some weight & live longer. Peter On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > http://consumerist.com/2010/04/kfcs-bacon-sandwich-on-fried-chicken-bread-kills-people-everywhere-on-april-12.html > (WS, ?Health not so much) > > I think Jack would need a LOT of water to go with the salt in it too!! > > Might need an ambulance standing by for Gerry, and need to know of > Peter Frechie is on alert. > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ambassador BMW MOA ? | > Brian Curry ? ? ? ? ?| ? ? ?Is Getting Old, Getting Old? > "DEERsSLAYER" ? ? ? ?| ? ? ?Aging Factors Can be Stopped > K75RTs both coasts ? | ? ? ?Find out more about it at > Chester Springs PA ? | ? ? ?http://www.nsevideos.com > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 01:11:17 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:11:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Edde, what is your take on the new Statue in Dakar, Senegal? Message-ID: http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/04/03/senegal.statue/index.html (WS) I do wonder how much land that North Korea got, where the land is, and what is under the land. Has to be a story there. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motoedde2 at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 04:56:46 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 00:56:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Edde, what is your take on the new Statue in Dakar, Senegal? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/04/03/senegal.statue/index.html > (WS) > > I do wonder how much land that North Korea got, where the land is, and > what is under the land. ?Has to be a story there. I lived in Senegal for 2.5 years...albeit in the bush by the Mali border...so my opinion is biased. Waste of money...and a monument to the current leader himself...who is trying to immortalize himself since his tenure was a failure. The country has more pressing infrastructure needs for economic growth. And such monument are not indignenous artistic expressions of most African cultures...they have other forms that are more in line with their cultural heritage...predominantly with wood and music. Another viewpoint of it... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703906204575027400440309756.html -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 05:50:49 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 01:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Edde, what is your take on the new Statue in Dakar, Senegal? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/4/10, edde m wrote: > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > > http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/04/03/senegal.statue/index.html > > (WS) > > > > I do wonder how much land that North Korea got, where the land is, and > > what is under the land. Has to be a story there. > Another viewpoint of it... > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703906204575027400440309756.html Ah. The NKs "just" sold the land off to someone else for hard currency... I liked the it that the windows are held in by Crazy Glue. That should work well. Oh and that the NKs had to be told to use African heads not Asian ones... Although I guess it does save production money if you can use old forms. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From gary5410 at aol.com Sun Apr 4 06:24:19 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 02:24:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen some wiring Message-ID: <8CCA1D69804EE85-328-1B851@webmail-m044.sysops.aol.com> Relocated some switches and a thermostat (I know it is upside down.....it's late....spin it later!) today. Wires were too short to reach the new location had to put in a box. Only moved it about 3' .....still knocked the hell out of my Saturday! :-) Didn't get as much done as I expected! http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#827068632_9hBWE Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure oh....I turned the thermostat around! From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Apr 4 11:09:08 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 07:09:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Edde, what is your take on the new Statue in Dakar, Senegal? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BB83B14.4147.18E545E@localhost> > > The country has more pressing infrastructure needs for economic > growth. And such monument are not indignenous artistic expressions of > most African cultures...they have other forms that are more in line > with their cultural heritage...predominantly with wood and music. > I agree. There are better things for the government to be doing. > Another viewpoint of it... > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703906204575027400440309 > 756.html > There can be issues when you buy on the cheap... "Mr. Wade demanded modifications to Mansudae's first version of the African Renaissance. "It had to have African heads, not Asian!" Mr. Wade says. The same problem had occurred with some of the statues Mansudae had made for Mali, according to his cultural advisers. " Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Apr 4 11:13:40 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 07:13:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen some wiring In-Reply-To: <8CCA1D69804EE85-328-1B851@webmail-m044.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BB83C24.27874.1926FF5@localhost> > Relocated some switches and a thermostat (I know it is upside > down.....it's late....spin it later!) today. Wires were too short to > reach the new location had to put in a box. Only moved it about 3' > .....still knocked the hell out of my Saturday! :-) Didn't get as much > done as I expected! > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#82706863 > 2_9hBWE > Its the details that take the time. Good job. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Apr 4 12:00:10 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:00:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I think I fixed it Message-ID: <4BB8470A.6464.1BD00B9@localhost> As you may remember I have some unresolved drivability issues with my K100. It behaves very badly when it is warming up. It pops and spits right off idle until it is good and warm. Just pulling out of the driveway is a bear. It runs fine when it is at 2000-3000 rpm under load, but off-idle is bad. This has been going on for a couple of years now. Based on my intuition and input from the interwebs I replaced the fuel filter (it did not drive like it did with a clogged filter, but what the heck.) I checked the coolant temperature sender and changed the spark plugs and air filter. Still no luck. I sprang for the $20 for a fuel pressure gage and that indicated the pressure was low (I think). My uncertainty was because the gage pulsed like crazy at idle. I put a sintered filter in the gage port and that did wonders for the gage stability. At idle I got 2 bar. The other point of confusion was the specified pressure. The specification was 2.5 bar. Was this at idle or under load? Was this with the vacuum reference port connected or open? The manual was not clear on this. I was getting 2 bar with the port connected to vacuum and 2.5 with the port open to atmosphere. Hmmmm. I guessed that perhaps the spring in the regulator had gotten weak over 24 years and was not holding the proper pressure. I could simply buy a new $80 regulator and see if that works. Or, perhaps I could adjust the old one. Knowing how this type of regulator works I figure there is a spring in the vacuum side of the regulator that causes the pressure to build. I could adjust it by crushing the housing a bit to provide more pressure on the spring. I bench tested the regulator with shop air to see the current pressure setting. (This worked great BTW). I then put it in a vice to crush the top side a bit and shorten the housing. Crush, test, crush, test until I raised the set pressure about 6.5 psi (~1/2 bar). All in all I crushed it about 2mm. I put the regulator back and the bike fired right up. I took a short spin to the bottom of the driveway and back and things looked good. No backfiring. Today I will try it again to make sure it is fixed. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From mjcantwe at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 12:50:34 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:50:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen some wiring In-Reply-To: <4BB83C24.27874.1926FF5@localhost> References: <8CCA1D69804EE85-328-1B851@webmail-m044.sysops.aol.com> <4BB83C24.27874.1926FF5@localhost> Message-ID: Wow Gary, You have done an amazing amount of work. This will be a very well documented project as well. Can't wait to see the next step. Michael. From jack.riepe at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 12:57:20 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:57:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Edde, what is your take on the new Statue in Dakar, Senegal? In-Reply-To: <4BB83B14.4147.18E545E@localhost> References: <4BB83B14.4147.18E545E@localhost> Message-ID: Dear Sirs: I had to read this three times before I realized they were talking about the heads on the statues. I thought you guys were originally referencing toilets. Who the hell would want a statue of Koreans in Senegal? -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From chrisjac at ptd.net Sun Apr 4 14:05:16 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 10:05:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday Message-ID: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> After the Quentin Annual Gasing Day meet, several of us took a ride north towards the Hegins, Route 501, Route 125 Area. Dave Case riding his BMW R80 went off the road on very tight, uphill decreasing right hand turn. Dave was unconscious when Melinda and I arrived upon him which was probably 30 seconds after he went down. Dave was probably unconscious for 1.30 seconds to 2 minutes. We awakened him but he was out of it for quite a bit longer. Ambulance was called and arrived quite promptly given the remote location where the accident occurred. Ambulance personal then called Life Flight to chopper Dave out of the scene due to the fact he was unconscious for a bit (this seems to be the protocol for any accident). Dave was awake, alert and in decent spirits before his chopper ride. Dave was taken to Lehigh Valley Hospital for review/treatment, full body CAT scan, etc.. Several of us made it to the hospital last evening where we visited with Dave, his wife Sue. Dave was in decent spirits during the hospital visit and felt that he only had bumps and scrapes. I talked with Dave at about 945 AM Sunday morning and Dave confirms that nothing hosptial staff say nothing was broken. He has contusions on his left shin, left knee, left shoulder. He expects (hopes) to be released today. His bike has minor damage and was rideable to the local fire company for storage. If you wish to call Dave, he didnt say he was not talking calls, you may call Lehigh Valley Hospital at 610-402-8001 and ask for him by name. That's all there is to report. Dave knows that I am writing this post. Chris Jaccarino From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 14:25:42 2010 From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (hugh mccann) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:25:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: Good to know, and it sounds like he will be OK. Also sounds like his friends were right there and acted promptly --- thank you guys-n-gal. If you are like me, you will be getting on a bike after a few month hiatus. I keep these mental notes in my mind: -look through the turn -create the line, outside inside outside, inside outside inside -turn then brake, brake then turn -2, 4, 12 -scanning, always scanning (like the terminator) be safe everyone. Hugh 2007 f650GS Collegeville, pa On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Chris wrote: > After the Quentin Annual Gasing Day meet, several of us took a ride > north towards the Hegins, Route 501, Route 125 Area. ?Dave Case riding > his BMW R80 went off the road on very tight, uphill decreasing right > hand turn. > > Dave was unconscious when Melinda and I arrived upon him which was > probably 30 seconds after he went down. ?Dave was probably unconscious > for 1.30 seconds to 2 minutes. ?We awakened him but he was out of it for > quite a bit longer. ?Ambulance was called and arrived quite promptly > given the remote location where the accident occurred. ? ?Ambulance > personal then called Life Flight to chopper Dave out of the scene due to > the fact he was unconscious for a bit (this seems to be the protocol for > any accident). ? Dave was awake, alert and in decent spirits before his > chopper ride. > > Dave was taken to Lehigh Valley Hospital for review/treatment, full body > CAT scan, etc.. ?Several of us made it to the hospital last evening > where we visited with Dave, his wife Sue. ?Dave was in decent spirits > during the hospital visit and felt that he only had bumps and scrapes. > > I talked with Dave at about 945 AM Sunday morning and Dave confirms that > nothing hosptial staff say nothing was broken. ? He has contusions on > his left shin, left knee, left shoulder. ?He expects (hopes) to be > released today. > > His bike has minor damage and was rideable to the local fire company for > storage. > > If you wish to call Dave, he didnt say he was not talking calls, you may > call Lehigh Valley Hospital at 610-402-8001 and ask for him by name. > > That's all there is to report. > > Dave knows that I am writing this post. > > > Chris Jaccarino > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From mark at markdaviesmedia.com Sun Apr 4 14:31:42 2010 From: mark at markdaviesmedia.com (mark at markdaviesmedia.com) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 07:31:42 -0700 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday Message-ID: <20100404073142.1c31284161f9540beea4f710eb8f100a.052b4a79a5.wbe@email.secureserver.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100404/bc9c1013/attachment.html From mark at markdaviesmedia.com Sun Apr 4 14:40:56 2010 From: mark at markdaviesmedia.com (mark at markdaviesmedia.com) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 07:40:56 -0700 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday Message-ID: <20100404074056.1c31284161f9540beea4f710eb8f100a.04d6bfb807.wbe@email.secureserver.net> PLAIN TEXT (Sorry!!!) Chris, thanks for the update and everything you did at the scene. Dave, glad to hear the injuries were not worse. May your mend time be short! -M From 321design at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 14:44:02 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:44:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Chris wrote: > After the Quentin Annual Gasing Day meet, several of us took a ride > north towards the Hegins, Route 501, Route 125 Area. ?Dave Case riding > his BMW R80 went off the road on very tight, uphill decreasing right > hand turn. My heart skiped a beat when I saw this post title. We are all so vulnerable out there no matter how careful. Bottom line is you are OK Dave and I am thankful for that. Rob -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From gary5410 at aol.com Sun Apr 4 14:43:37 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 10:43:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: <8CCA21C57923366-328-1DC37@webmail-m044.sysops.aol.com> Sounds like Dave will be OK! Scary stuff. :-( Hope it's just a scare and Dave heals his bumps quickly!!!!! Don't like that unconscious thing at all! Must have took a good whap........hope no complications from that. Let's have NO MORE of that! Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure <<-----Original Message----- From: Chris Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday After the Quentin Annual Gasing Day meet, I talked with Dave at about 945 AM Sunday morning and Dave confirms that nothing hosptial staff say nothing was broken. He has contusions on his left shin, left knee, left shoulder. He expects (hopes) to be released today. His bike has minor damage and was rideable to the local fire company for storage. If you wish to call Dave, he didnt say he was not talking calls, you may call Lehigh Valley Hospital at 610-402-8001 and ask for him by name. That's all there is to report. Dave knows that I am writing this post. Chris Jaccarino>> From chrisjac at ptd.net Sun Apr 4 14:50:44 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 10:50:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: <8CCA21C57923366-328-1DC37@webmail-m044.sysops.aol.com> References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> <8CCA21C57923366-328-1DC37@webmail-m044.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BB8A744.9080306@ptd.net> Gary Christman wrote: > Don't like that unconscious thing at all! Must have took a good > whap........hope no complications from that. I will add....examination of his helmet showed no cracks, and only VERY light scuffs. Eyeglasses were intact, shield was intact. Chris Jaccarino From Doug at pencader.com Sun Apr 4 15:06:27 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:06:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: <01ca01cad408$68b9bbb0$3a2d3310$@com> Chris wrote; >>> snips > After the Quentin Annual Gasing Day meet, several of us took a ride > north towards the Hegins, Route 501, Route 125 Area. Dave Case riding > his BMW R80 went off the road on very tight, uphill decreasing right > hand turn. >>> end Chris, Melinda, and especially, Dave! A couple of us rode up to Quentin from Newark for the gathering and had a great time with a great bunch of enthusiasts and had the chance to ride along Rt. 772 through Lititz on the way back. Having never been to Quentin, we set out enthusiastically to explore a few "new" roads on the way up, of which we saw many. I was quickly reminded that an attitude of safety first must always trump the "it's a new season, let's get out there and ride enthusically" approach we are so prone to early when the weather turns nice. Even if you have the skills/instincts to do this "competently", we forget about all the gravel & debris still on the road surface from our recent snows. This, combined with a lack of familiarity with "new" roads, can spell disaster. Our very best to Dave in his recovery, and don't underestimate the seriousness of that likely concussion. Dave, Heal well & quickly, from the Delaware Contingent. Many, many safe & satisfying miles to all, Doug '01 1150 GSP From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Apr 4 15:09:50 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:09:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: <4BB8737E.32607.26AA442@localhost> > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Chris wrote: > > After the Quentin Annual Gasing Day meet, several of us took a ride > > north towards the Hegins, Route 501, Route 125 Area. ?Dave Case > > riding his BMW R80 went off the road on very tight, uphill > > decreasing right hand turn. > > > My heart skiped a beat when I saw this post title. We are all so > vulnerable out there no matter how careful. > > Bottom line is you are OK Dave and I am thankful for that. > > Rob > Glad to hear Dave is out of danger. That is scary stuff when you hear about a helicopter ride. Lehigh Valley is a good place. Heal quick. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From quinntex2000 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 4 15:14:39 2010 From: quinntex2000 at yahoo.com (Quinn Tex) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: <920155.36727.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Dave Case riding > his BMW R80 went off the road on very tight, uphill > decreasing right > hand turn. > > Dave was unconscious when Melinda and I arrived upon him > which was > probably 30 seconds after he went down.? Dave was > probably unconscious > for 1.30 seconds to 2 minutes.? > Dave knows that I am writing this post. > > > Chris Jaccarino > _______________________________________________ Chris, glad to know you were right behind him! Dave, best wishes for a speedy recovery! Georgina From gary5410 at aol.com Sun Apr 4 15:18:16 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:18:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: <4BB8A744.9080306@ptd.net> References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> <8CCA21C57923366-328-1DC37@webmail-m044.sysops.aol.com> <4BB8A744.9080306@ptd.net> Message-ID: <8CCA2212F77AA93-328-1E12E@webmail-m044.sysops.aol.com> Maybe it was a head twist like a "knock out" punch. Not so much impact. Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure -----Original Message----- From: Chris To: Gary Christman Cc: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Sent: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 10:50 am Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday Gary Christman wrote:? > Don't like that unconscious thing at all! Must have took a good > whap........hope no complications from that.? ? I will add....examination of his helmet showed no cracks, and only VERY light scuffs. Eyeglasses were intact, shield was intact. ? Chris Jaccarino? From motoedde2 at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 15:27:23 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:27:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Chris wrote: > If you wish to call Dave, he didnt say he was not talking calls, you may > call Lehigh Valley Hospital at 610-402-8001 and ask for him by name. Sorry to hear the bad news but glad to read he's on the road to recovery. Hopefully no long term issues surface as this summer will provide a lot of sunny days and more riding opportunities! -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From rcavalie at verizon.net Sun Apr 4 15:37:47 2010 From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:37:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I think I fixed it In-Reply-To: <4BB8470A.6464.1BD00B9@localhost> References: <4BB8470A.6464.1BD00B9@localhost> Message-ID: <001101cad40c$c74cb6b0$55e62410$@net> -----Original Message----- From: mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com [mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com] On Behalf Of Joe Dille Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:00 AM To: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Subject: [MAC-PAC] I think I fixed it << As you may remember I have some unresolved drivability issues with my K100. It behaves very badly when it is warming up. It pops and spits right off idle until it is good and warm. Just pulling out of the driveway is a bear. It runs fine when it is at 2000-3000 rpm under load, but off-idle is bad. This has been going on for a couple of years now.>> snip << I guessed that perhaps the spring in the regulator had gotten weak over 24 years and was not holding the proper pressure. I could simply buy a new $80 regulator and see if that works. Or, perhaps I could adjust the old one. Knowing how this type of regulator works I figure there is a spring in the vacuum side of the regulator that causes the pressure to build. I could adjust it by crushing the housing a bit to provide more pressure on the spring. I bench tested the regulator with shop air to see the current pressure setting. (This worked great BTW). I then put it in a vice to crush the top side a bit and shorten the housing. Crush, test, crush, test until I raised the set pressure about 6.5 psi (~1/2 bar). All in all I crushed it about 2mm. I put the regulator back and the bike fired right up. I took a short spin to the bottom of the driveway and back and things looked good. No backfiring. Today I will try it again to make sure it is fixed. >> It's great to read how you diagnosed the problem and then solved it. I'm gonna file that one away for future reference in case my K100RT develops similar problems. Rick From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 15:42:09 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:42:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: On 4/4/10, Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Chris wrote: > > > After the Quentin Annual Gasing Day meet, several of us took a ride > > north towards the Hegins, Route 501, Route 125 Area. Dave Case riding > > his BMW R80 went off the road on very tight, uphill decreasing right > > hand turn. > > > > My heart skiped a beat when I saw this post title. We are all so > vulnerable out there no matter how careful. > > Bottom line is you are OK Dave and I am thankful for that. Agreed both counts I am seeing a disturbing pattern though. Using Lehigh Valley Hospital as a Mac-Pac visiting point. Even if Mac-Pac'r works there using it for meeting IMO is not a good thing. Please Quit and lets have a great summer with few similar reports! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 15:57:12 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:57:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I think I fixed it In-Reply-To: <4BB8470A.6464.1BD00B9@localhost> References: <4BB8470A.6464.1BD00B9@localhost> Message-ID: On 4/4/10, Joe Dille wrote: > I sprang for the $20 for a fuel pressure gage and that indicated the > pressure was low (I think). My uncertainty was because the gage > pulsed like crazy at idle. I put a sintered filter in the gage port > and that did wonders for the gage stability. At idle I got 2 bar. > > The other point of confusion was the specified pressure. The > specification was 2.5 bar. Was this at idle or under load? Was this > with the vacuum reference port connected or open? The manual was not > clear on this. I was getting 2 bar with the port connected to vacuum > and 2.5 with the port open to atmosphere. Hmmmm. Think about it. The FI brain needs to know how much fuel is being injected per unit time. Flow rate depends on the pressure across the orifice, which is the pintle opening. The pressure there depends on the fuel side pressure and the pressure it is injecting too. At idle the injection side is at a decent vacuum. The fuel side pressure can be lower w/ respect to the atmosphere, which is what the gauge reads for the same DP and same injection rate. Constant injection rate is the important thing cause it makes it EASIER for the analog computer to work with. The Moronics with their greater computabilty did not have the issue. They assumed everythning was tight and they did have the O2 sensor to trim out leakage hopefully. So, it sounds like it was operating correctly. > I guessed that perhaps the spring in the regulator had gotten weak > over 24 years and was not holding the proper pressure. > to crush the top side a bit and shorten the housing. Crush, test, > crush, test until I raised the set pressure about 6.5 psi (~1/2 bar). > All in all I crushed it about 2mm. > > I put the regulator back and the bike fired right up. I took a short > spin to the bottom of the driveway and back and things looked good. > No backfiring. Today I will try it again to make sure it is fixed. I think you "compensated" for an air leak somewhere else by increasing the fuel flow. You have not replaced the rubber bits in the air path correct? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 17:46:31 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 13:46:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I think I fixed it In-Reply-To: <4BB8470A.6464.1BD00B9@localhost> References: <4BB8470A.6464.1BD00B9@localhost> Message-ID: > I bench tested the regulator with shop air to see the current > pressure setting. ?(This worked great BTW). ?I then put it in a vice > to crush the top side a bit and shorten the housing. ?Crush, test, > crush, test until I raised the set pressure about 6.5 psi (~1/2 bar). > ?All in all I crushed it about 2mm. > > I put the regulator back and the bike fired right up. ?I took a short > spin to the bottom of the driveway and back and things looked good. > No backfiring. ?Today I will try it again to make sure it is fixed. > > Ride Safe, > > Joe > > > --------------------------------- > Joe Dille I nominate Joe Dille for the McIver Award for the month of April. Crushing stuff to make it work is so un-BMW-ish. I love it! Pack sand Dieter! I'll fix it my way! it's the American way! Dano From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Apr 4 17:51:23 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:51:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I think I fixed it In-Reply-To: <001101cad40c$c74cb6b0$55e62410$@net> References: <4BB8470A.6464.1BD00B9@localhost> Message-ID: <4BB8995B.5905.8441FB@localhost> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com > [mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com] On Behalf Of > Joe Dille Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:00 AM To: mac-pac-l at jtan.com > Subject: [MAC-PAC] I think I fixed it > > << As you may remember I have some unresolved drivability issues with > my K100. It behaves very badly when it is warming up. It pops and > spits right off idle until it is good and warm. Just pulling out of > the driveway is a bear. It runs fine when it is at 2000-3000 rpm > under load, but off-idle is bad. This has been going on for a couple > of years now.>> Crush... > No backfiring. Today I will try it again to make sure it is fixed. >> > > > > It's great to read how you diagnosed the problem and then solved it. > I'm gonna file that one away for future reference in case my K100RT > develops similar problems. > Rick, Thanks for your kind words. I just took it on a 4 mile loop and I believe the daemons are gone. It started easy and came off idle w/o a hitch right away. It did not misbehave in the least when I left the driveway. (Before I had to wind it up to 3000 and fan the clutch to get going.) Once it was warm I wound it up in first and second gear. It has a lot more snap than before. I am good to go. Finally. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Apr 4 18:01:31 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 14:01:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I think I fixed it In-Reply-To: References: <4BB8470A.6464.1BD00B9@localhost> Message-ID: <4BB89BBB.11214.8D8C7A@localhost> > On 4/4/10, Joe Dille wrote: > > > I sprang for the $20 for a fuel pressure gage and that indicated > > the pressure was low (I think). My uncertainty was because the > > gage pulsed like crazy at idle. I put a sintered filter in the > > gage port and that did wonders for the gage stability. At idle I > > got 2 bar. > > > > The other point of confusion was the specified pressure. The > > specification was 2.5 bar. Was this at idle or under load? Was > > this with the vacuum reference port connected or open? The manual > > was not clear on this. I was getting 2 bar with the port connected > > to vacuum and 2.5 with the port open to atmosphere. Hmmmm. > > Think about it. The FI brain needs to know how much fuel is being > injected per unit time. Flow rate depends on the pressure across the > orifice, which is the pintle opening. The pressure there depends on > the fuel side pressure and the pressure it is injecting too. > Yep, that's how it works. > At idle the injection side is at a decent vacuum. The fuel side > pressure can be lower w/ respect to the atmosphere, which is what the > gauge reads for the same DP and same injection rate. > Yes. I believe that is the design intent. > > So, it sounds like it was operating correctly. > Electronics and mechanics were working fine. It was the regulator that was getting old and tired. > > I guessed that perhaps the spring in the regulator had gotten weak > > over 24 years and was not holding the proper pressure. > My "before" data indicated it was low. > > to crush the top side a bit and shorten the housing. Crush, test, > > crush, test until I raised the set pressure about 6.5 psi (~1/2 > > bar). > > All in all I crushed it about 2mm. > > > > I put the regulator back and the bike fired right up. I took a > > short spin to the bottom of the driveway and back and things looked > > good. No backfiring. Today I will try it again to make sure it is > > fixed. > > I think you "compensated" for an air leak somewhere else by increasing > the fuel flow. > I don't think so. The classic spray carb cleaner while running check showed nothing. It did idle OK too. It just had problems coming off idle. My "after" data shows 2.5 bar, which is my current understanding of the specification. > You have not replaced the rubber bits in the air path correct? > Nope, but they appear to be good. Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 18:18:06 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 14:18:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I think I fixed it In-Reply-To: <4BB89BBB.11214.8D8C7A@localhost> References: <4BB8470A.6464.1BD00B9@localhost> <4BB89BBB.11214.8D8C7A@localhost> Message-ID: You are confused. On 4/4/10, Joe Dille wrote: > > > The other point of confusion was the specified pressure. The > > > specification was 2.5 bar. Was this at idle or under load? Was > > > this with the vacuum reference port connected or open? The manual > > > was not clear on this. I was getting 2 bar with the port connected > > > to vacuum and 2.5 with the port open to atmosphere. Hmmmm. The specification is 2.5bar. That is the "base" value. The value sitting there. The "DP value." You measured 2.5 Bar. It is OK. At idle the inlet tract is at -0.5 bar. ie. vacuum. So the DP is 2.5 bar which is the design spec. The "indicated" to atmosphere pressure is 2 bar. The FPR is OK. > > Think about it. The FI brain needs to know how much fuel is being > > injected per unit time. Flow rate depends on the pressure across the > > orifice, which is the pintle opening. The pressure there depends on > > the fuel side pressure and the pressure it is injecting too. > > Yep, that's how it works. We agree there. > > At idle the injection side is at a decent vacuum. The fuel side > > pressure can be lower w/ respect to the atmosphere, which is what the > > gauge reads for the same DP and same injection rate. > > Yes. I believe that is the design intent. Agreed again. > > So, it sounds like it was operating correctly. > > > > Electronics and mechanics were working fine. It was the regulator > that was getting old and tired. See above. The regulator WAS fine. > > > I guessed that perhaps the spring in the regulator had gotten weak > > > over 24 years and was not holding the proper pressure. > > My "before" data indicated it was low. See above. Your "before" data was fine and as expected. Your interpretation was wrong. > > I think you "compensated" for an air leak somewhere else by increasing > > the fuel flow. > > > > I don't think so. The classic spray carb cleaner while running check > showed nothing. It did idle OK too. It just had problems coming off > idle. Spray carb cleaner assumes you are spraying in the right area. > My "after" data shows 2.5 bar, which is my current understanding of > the specification. Under what conditions? If "at idle" referenced to atmosphere your understanding is wrong. > > You have not replaced the rubber bits in the air path correct? > > Nope, but they appear to be good. I think you are fixing a "symptom" based on bad interpretation and not the problem. If it was at 2.5 bar referenced to atmospheric it was GOOD. And it would drop referenced to atmospheric at idle. (And this discussion will help me in others. Cause I have wrestled with "when does it go down" and now I should have it burned in my brain. Or how to get there for sure.) Oh, and the vacuum is on the same side as the spring, so that its affect on the diaphragm is the same as pressure on the fuel side. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Sun Apr 4 18:42:11 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 14:42:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: <9C1D9ED5C7E44E628F35D9822DD8A503@home.robinson.org> ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Dave Case riding his BMW R80 went off the road on very tight, uphill decreasing right hand turn. Dave was unconscious when Melinda and I arrived upon him which was probably 30 seconds after he went down. Dave was probably unconscious for 1.30 seconds to 2 minutes. We awakened him but he was out of it for quite a bit longer. Ambulance was called and arrived quite promptly given the remote location where the accident occurred. Ambulance personal then called Life Flight to chopper Dave out of the scene due to the fact he was unconscious for a bit (this seems to be the protocol for any accident). Dave was awake, alert and in decent spirits before his chopper ride. Dave was taken to Lehigh Valley Hospital for review/treatment, full body CAT scan, etc.. Several of us made it to the hospital last evening where we visited with Dave, his wife Sue. Dave was in decent spirits during the hospital visit and felt that he only had bumps and scrapes. I talked with Dave at about 945 AM Sunday morning and Dave confirms that nothing hosptial staff say nothing was broken. He has contusions on his left shin, left knee, left shoulder. He expects (hopes) to be released today. His bike has minor damage and was rideable to the local fire company for storage. If you wish to call Dave, he didnt say he was not talking calls, you may call Lehigh Valley Hospital at 610-402-8001 and ask for him by name. That's all there is to report. _______________________________________________ Just called the hospital. He has been discharged which is a good thing. Dave heal quickly! The rest of you cut this crashing stuff out right now! I don't want to start getting back into the trend of visiting hospitals to see you all. ;-) Jim Robinson West Chester PA From tpcutter at aol.com Sun Apr 4 19:05:41 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:05:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I think I fixed it In-Reply-To: <001101cad40c$c74cb6b0$55e62410$@net> References: <4BB8470A.6464.1BD00B9@localhost> <001101cad40c$c74cb6b0$55e62410$@net> Message-ID: <8CCA240F49F21AF-DF8-24476@webmail-d011.sysops.aol.com> <> OK, I guess I better stock a K pressure regulator, I can see a wave of crushed ones headed my way. :) --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? -----Original Message----- From: Richard A. Cavaliere To: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us; mac-pac-l at jtan.com Sent: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 11:37 am Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] I think I fixed it -----Original Message-----From: mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com[mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+ rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com] On Behalf Of JoeDilleSent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:00 AMTo: mac-pac-l at jtan.comSubject: [MAC-PAC] I think I fixed it<< As you may remember I have some unresolved drivability issues with my K100. It behaves very badly when it is warming up. It pops and spits right off idle until it is good and warm. Just pulling out of the driveway is a bear. It runs fine when it is at 2000-3000 rpm under load, but off-idle is bad. This has been going on for a couple of years now.>>snip<< I guessed that perhaps the spring in the regulator had gotten weak over 24 years and was not holding the proper pressure. I could simply buy a new $80 regulator and see if that works. Or, perhaps I could adjust the old one. Knowing how this type of regulator works I figure there is a spring in the vacuum side of the regulator that causes the pressure to build. I could adjust it by crushing the housing a bit to provide more pressure on the spring.I bench tested the regulator with shop air to see the current pressure setting. (This worked great BTW). I then put it in a vice to crush the top side a bit and shorten the housing. Crush, test, crush, test until I raised the set pressure about 6.5 psi (~1/2 bar). All in all I crushed it about 2mm.I put the regulator back and the bike fired right up. I took a short spin to the bottom of the driveway and back and things looked good. No backfiring. Today I will try it again to make sure it is fixed. >>It's great to read how you diagnosed the problem and then solved it. I'mgonna file that one away for future reference in case my K100RT developssimilar problems.Rick_______________________________________________Mac-pac-l mailing listMac-pac-l at jtan.comhttp://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Apr 4 19:20:20 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:20:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I think I fixed it In-Reply-To: <8CCA240F49F21AF-DF8-24476@webmail-d011.sysops.aol.com> References: <001101cad40c$c74cb6b0$55e62410$@net> Message-ID: <4BB8AE34.16603.D5B1E3@localhost> > > < I'mgonna file that one away for future reference in case my K100RT > developssimilar problems.>> > > OK, I guess I better stock a K pressure regulator, I can see a wave of > crushed ones headed my way. :) > As always, I do what I can to help the local economy ;-) Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From dbcase at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 20:14:26 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:14:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Chris wrote: > After the Quentin Annual Ga(s)sing Day meet, .... ?Dave Case riding > his BMW R80 went off the road on very tight, uphill decreasing right > hand turn. > Chris, Thanks for informing the Pac. ..... I'm home, after a 'copter ride and 24 hour stay at the hosp., but I gotta find better ways to meet cute women. My injuries are just as Chris mentioned. I'm not even taking pain meds. I'll be keeping an eye on the concussion, though. A slight headache, no nausea to date. My left side took the shot... but enough about me, let's dissect the accident, shall we? :) OK, so we leave Quentin for the ridges and valleys paralleling Blue Mountain, SW to NE. Once we lost traffic, we were having a blast. 7 bikes, 9 riders. Of course, I've been thinking about the accident non-stop, I've pieced it together from my own memory and my trailing rider's observations. It was an uphill hairpin righthander, that I somehow failed to recognize as a switchback turn in this mountain road (PA125). One of the culprits to this, I think, is the tendency of my helmet to drop down to just above my eyebrows in the front. Thus, my "overhead line of sight" is gone, when it does that. I've been helmet shopping, intending to replace this (HJC Symax, b/c of this new tendency to drop and b/c it's 5 y.o.) Now, I've been riding 24 years, the first 22 on the R80ST. I know that bike like the back of my hand. I've put 64k miles on it. How many turns it that, would you estimate? Real turns, the fun stuff. tens of thousands, right? I made a mistake on this one. Why? I think the impaired up-the-brow vision my HJC cause me to not read the decreasing radius of the uphill hairpin. Found myself entering the turn to low and too hot for that low line. Scrubbed as much speed as I could, but had to release and dive in. The inside was flat and broken apart and a bit rippled I later learned. The outside was banked nicely. Dave, the rider behind me, said he saw my line, decided it was too low, took his eyes off me a sec, reset his line for outside-in, and saw me tumbling. I remember having that bike pitched over to the right so far to make the turn, that the pavement was dangerously close to my side. "This isn't going to work", I remember thinking. Next thing I knew, I had that view of heads looking at me. Melinda first. She was first on the scene, as Jacc and her were behind Dave, Chris dropped her off with me, and went on to park the 'Wing. Mel never left my side until the EMTs arrived Dave said I lowsided, but didn't let go of the bike, the bike must have straightened up at the end, hit the embankment and flipped end over 180 degrees, landing back on it's tires facing the way it came in, then fell over on it's side in the brush. He said I was catapulted upward from the bike-buck and landed on my head, dropping onto my chest. Whoever wrote that my head injury may have been more like a punch, I agree. My upper jaw is sore like I got punched. Next is sore (twist?) too. I give Dave extra points for simultaneously making the hairpin with my ballet act and result all in view. Well done, there, rider! :) I've already been asked if this shakes my desire to ride. A question I asked myself all night. If my shoulder and knee are up to it, I hope to ride to PFD in two weeks. And riding for real in less than that. :) The gear worked. Boots: SIDI Stradas with that big breast plate of a shin protector. Absorbed a shock and gave me the rest in the form of a contusion on the shin. I'll live. Pants: Have knee armor, took that blast and gave me what was left over. Again, I'll live. Heavy leather jacket, no armor, but thick and dbl leather on shoulders and elbows. Helmet. Gloves. Not one speck of exposed skin. No broken bones, no scraped skin, no internal injuries. Yes, I'm lucky, and am counting my blessings. I missed a boulder. Before all that happened, I was having a ball!! So, I'll be back. Thanks for everyone's well wishes. and DO ride safe out there... b/c there MUST be better ways to meet cute EMTs and RNs. Dave Case From jweiss11 at comcast.net Sun Apr 4 21:24:58 2010 From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:24:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: <16A8C00232A34635AA9F511D4FF86527@jackde48df08c6> No broken bones, no scraped skin, no internal injuries. Yes, I'm lucky, and am counting my blessings. I missed a boulder. Before all that happened, I was having a ball!! So, I'll be back. Thanks for everyone's well wishes. and DO ride safe out there... b/c there MUST be better ways to meet cute EMTs and RNs. Dave Case _______________________________________________ Dave, I am glad you and your sense of humor survived intact. See you at breakfast buddy. Jack Weiss From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 21:41:08 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:41:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Easter humor Message-ID: Someone sent me a BUNCH of cartoons from here. I got a real giggle out of this one: http://www.reverendfun.com/?date=20071203 Based on the date there is a MASSIVE archive of cartoons here. http://www.reverendfun.com/ Some good for grins, others good for giggles. :):) Enjoy. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From willweir at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 22:10:57 2010 From: willweir at gmail.com (Will Weir) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 18:10:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 4:14 PM, David Case wrote: > I'm home, after a 'copter ride and 24 hour stay at the hosp., but I > gotta find better ways to meet cute women. ?My injuries are just as > Chris mentioned. ?I'm not even taking pain meds. ?I'll be keeping an > eye on the concussion, though. ?A slight headache, no nausea to date. > My left side took the shot... but enough about me, let's dissect the > accident, shall we? :) Dave, I'm really glad you're OK. Reading your report, I think I just relived a day with our favorite boulder jumping BMW enthusiast. Thankfully you missed the boulder. They tend to break ribs and other good things. Heal quickly :-) Will From Ducdude at verizon.net Sun Apr 4 22:30:43 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 18:30:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: <6659E30787834249B4379C069CC3016D@heilveil5e3fdd> As of 1830 Sunday Dave was released from the Hospital.. Duc > After the Quentin Annual Gasing Day meet, several of us took a ride > north towards the Hegins, Route 501, Route 125 Area. Dave Case riding > his BMW R80 went off the road on very tight, uphill decreasing right > hand turn. > > Dave was unconscious when Melinda and I arrived upon him which was > probably 30 seconds after he went down. Dave was probably unconscious > for 1.30 seconds to 2 minutes. > If you wish to call Dave, he didnt say > he was not talking calls, you may > call Lehigh Valley Hospital at 610-402-8001 and ask for him by name. > > That's all there is to report. > > Dave knows that I am writing this post. From wayne at 2zars.com Mon Apr 5 00:10:14 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 20:10:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: >No broken bones, no scraped skin, no internal injuries. > >Yes, I'm lucky, and am counting my blessings. I missed a boulder. >Before all that happened, I was having a ball!! So, I'll be back. > >Thanks for everyone's well wishes. and DO ride safe out there... b/c >there MUST be better ways to meet cute EMTs and RNs. Dave, Glad to hear you're OK!! Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From wayne at 2zars.com Mon Apr 5 00:03:18 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 20:03:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I think I fixed it In-Reply-To: <8CCA240F49F21AF-DF8-24476@webmail-d011.sysops.aol.com> References: <4BB8470A.6464.1BD00B9@localhost> <001101cad40c$c74cb6b0$55e62410$@net> <8CCA240F49F21AF-DF8-24476@webmail-d011.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: > ><I'mgonna file that one away for future reference in case my K100RT >developssimilar problems.>> > >OK, I guess I better stock a K pressure regulator, I can see a wave of >crushed ones headed my way. :) I was laughing so loud, everyone was asking what the joke was. Try explaining THAT to the family. Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From mjcantwe at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 00:22:46 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 20:22:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: Dave, Thank goodness you are ok! I hope your bruises heal fast and you are up on two wheels again soon, Michael From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Mon Apr 5 00:29:15 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: <755012197.6941151270427198827.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1318223872.6942231270427355291.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >I'm home, after a 'copter ride and 24 hour stay at the hosp., but I >gotta find better ways to meet cute women. My injuries are just as >Chris mentioned. I'm not even taking pain meds. I'll be keeping an >eye on the concussion, though. A slight headache, no nausea to date. >My left side took the shot... but enough about me, let's dissect the >accident, shall we? :) Dave, sorry about the crash, glad to hear your well on the road to recovery. If you have really strong memories of the accident I take that as a very good sign. I suffered a severe concussion in an automobile accident several years ago. I have no memories of the accident, the night before it, or 5 or six days afterward. The worst part of a concussion is the fatigue you experience. I was in college at the time and three classes would wipe me out like I had worked a 24 hour shift on an oil rig. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From jasiii at earthlink.net Mon Apr 5 01:15:51 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:15:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: Ouch.. Sorry to hear about Dave but at least he has been discharged from the hospital and he got a ride in a helicopter and when he came to he was looking at Melinda Dave hope you fully recover with no concussion.. That can be a long term problem.. Listen to the doctors no matter how you think you feel Do you need any help in getting the bike home ?? Oh, get fully well quick Jim From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Apr 5 01:29:21 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:29:21 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday Message-ID: <1b687.ae385b2.38ea96f1@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2010 4:14:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dbcase at gmail.com writes: It was an uphill hairpin righthander, that I somehow failed to recognize as a switchback turn in this mountain road (PA125). ===================================================== Dave, I rode that route last fall with my brother on his R 65/5 and my brother-in-law on his 1200 GS when he visited from Alaska. I remember that turn and I know I didn't go into it anywhere near as hot as you did but I remember it was the only turn of that trip that scared me. It was my first time on PA125. I remember needing to bleed speed real fast to get through it. It is experiences like that which keep me riding more sedately. I'm sure glad you are light hearted about it now. And those pretty nurses do help to take the edge off the bummer. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Starting with delegating all my jobs here at the house to the wife and kids. Shoulda thought of this "trauma thing" years ago. Dave Case feet up in Lansdale. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100404/6a2f7f57/attachment.html From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Apr 5 01:32:48 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:32:48 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday Message-ID: <1b8fd.76ecd45.38ea97c0@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2010 9:31:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dbcase at gmail.com writes: Dave Case feet up in Lansdale. ============================================ Dave, I too offer any assistance you may need in getting the bike home. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100404/ca0f20cf/attachment.html From doehler at verizon.net Mon Apr 5 01:39:17 2010 From: doehler at verizon.net (Dave Oehler) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:39:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: "Free" WiFi spots in Pennsylvania References: Message-ID: <2CB9D492059D4F6F92FB24F572DACE47@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Curry" To: "Mac-Pac" Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] OT: "Free" WiFi spots in Pennsylvania > On 3/30/10, Brian Curry wrote: >> http://www.wififreespot.com/pa.html > > I learned from Mac-Pac'r Scott Fillman that his lovely wife, the > proprietress of Churchill in Pottstown offers FREE WiFi at Churchill > the Artisan Baker & Chocolatier. > > http://churchillinc.net/ > http://churchillinc.net/shop.htm > http://churchillinc.net/songwriter%20showcase.htm > > If you are in the area, it is a GOOD place to have a nosh. We had a > breakfast and Mileage contest form gathering there a few years back. > They opened for us. It was/is a GOOD FEED. > --------------------------- Free WiFi and good food! There is also this resource to complete your stop. www.sitorsquat.com to find "clean" public bathrooms... goofy name but we have them linked to our corporate site... Very handy in deed on long trips. Dave O Chadds Ford From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 01:47:02 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:47:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: "Free" WiFi spots in Pennsylvania In-Reply-To: <2CB9D492059D4F6F92FB24F572DACE47@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> References: <2CB9D492059D4F6F92FB24F572DACE47@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> Message-ID: On 4/4/10, Dave Oehler wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Curry" > To: "Mac-Pac" > > I learned from Mac-Pac'r Scott Fillman that his lovely wife, the > > proprietress of Churchill in Pottstown offers FREE WiFi at Churchill > > the Artisan Baker & Chocolatier. > > > > http://churchillinc.net/ > > http://churchillinc.net/shop.htm > > http://churchillinc.net/songwriter%20showcase.htm > > Free WiFi and good food! There is also this resource to complete your stop. > www.sitorsquat.com to > find "clean" public bathrooms... goofy name but we have them linked to > our corporate site... Very handy in deed on long trips. There is even a toilet in Dakar Senegal! No idea how close it is to "the statue". -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From chrisjac at ptd.net Mon Apr 5 01:47:28 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:47:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: <1b687.ae385b2.38ea96f1@aol.com> References: <1b687.ae385b2.38ea96f1@aol.com> Message-ID: <4BB94130.1000602@ptd.net> Braveirwin at aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/4/2010 4:14:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > dbcase at gmail.com writes: > > It was an uphill hairpin righthander, that I > somehow failed to recognize as a switchback turn in this mountain road > (PA125). > > ===================================================== > Dave, I rode that route last fall with my brother on his R 65/5 and my > brother-in-law on his 1200 GS when he visited from Alaska. I remember > that turn and I know I didn't go into it anywhere near as hot as you > did but I remember it was the only turn of that trip that scared me. > It was my first time on PA125. I remember needing to bleed speed real > fast to get through it. It is experiences like that which keep me > riding more sedately. > I'm sure glad you are light hearted about it now. And those pretty > nurses do help to take the edge off the bummer. Roddy. The accident was not ON Route 125. The accident occurred on Mahantong St, at the first hairpin turn north of Sankus Drive, in Upper Mahantong Township. Not sure this link will work or not, but here goes...... http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&q=hegins,+pa&fb=1&gl=us&ei=U0C5S6_PGpHCzgTfyr2xDQ&ved=0CBIQpQY&hl=en&view=map&geocode=FdvCawIdpvFv-w&split=0&iwloc=A&sa=X Chris Jaccarino From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 02:04:49 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:04:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: <4BB94130.1000602@ptd.net> References: <1b687.ae385b2.38ea96f1@aol.com> <4BB94130.1000602@ptd.net> Message-ID: On 4/4/10, Chris wrote: > The accident was not ON Route 125. The accident occurred on Mahantong > St, at the first hairpin turn north of Sankus Drive, in Upper Mahantong > Township. > > Not sure this link will work or not, but here goes...... > http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&q=hegins,+pa&fb=1&gl=us&ei=U0C5S6_PGpHCzgTfyr2xDQ&ved=0CBIQpQY&hl=en&view=map&geocode=FdvCawIdpvFv-w&split=0&iwloc=A&sa=X I think this will get it a bit better. In Terrain mode, where it shows that things are going up pretty quick there. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Mahantongo+St,+Hegins,+Schuylkill,+Pennsylvania+17938&sll=40.617927,-76.545181&sspn=0.031468,0.076218&gl=us&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FW1HbAIdEkFv-w&split=0&hq=&hnear=Mahantongo+St,+Hegins,+Schuylkill,+Pennsylvania+17938&ll=40.657755,-76.597624&spn=0.015725,0.038109&t=p&z=15 The Street info from Chris helped pin it down. Dave you got a note from Sue for the EMTs and Nurses??? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motoedde2 at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 04:05:24 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:05:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Why Dick Has Been So Quiet... Message-ID: Figures he's been up to penning an Op-Ed of sorts... http://www.theonion.com/articles/us-government-to-save-billions-by-cutting-wasteful,17171/ -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 04:11:47 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The back story on "snopes.com" Message-ID: >From the NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/05/technology/05snopes.html?ref=technology (WS) "David and Barbara Mikkelson are among those trying to clean the cesspool. The unassuming California couple run Snopes, one of the most popular fact-checking destinations on the Web. For well over a decade they have acted as arbiters in the Age of Misinformation by answering the central question posed by every chain letter ? is this true? ? complete with links to further research." IMO interesting article. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwdick at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 15:34:49 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:34:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: Glad to hear it wasn't another boulder bash. Dave: Sorry to hear about your crash. I know you're in good hands at Lehigh Valley. They're the guys that patched me up after my attempted suicide in McCungie. Strong wishes for a speedy recovery and your return to the road. BMW-Dick On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Chris wrote: > After the Quentin Annual Gasing Day meet, several of us took a ride > north towards the Hegins, Route 501, Route 125 Area. ?Dave Case riding > his BMW R80 went off the road on very tight, uphill decreasing right > hand turn. From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com Mon Apr 5 11:59:04 2010 From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 07:59:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] A few Gassing Day photos... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Rob. When someone organizes an event like this they do hope for decent weather. I was actually astounded to have PERFECT weather and that surely caused the turnout. Clearly the largest Gassing Day we've had - probably 50 to 60 folks just packed the Quentin Haus. The crew at the restaurant did a great job and the tire kicking outside was excellent. Little did I know someone would have a learning experience up in the mountains afterwards but it looks like that will work out OK. The people were from all over - Airheads Beemer Club, Mac-Pac, Dutch Country. Folks rode in from near and far on roads (as one fella said last year) so twisty that you could see your own tail light coming around. We got to enjoy real new bikes, real old bikes and some outstanding recently completed restorations. WOW there was love in those bikes. A marvelously diverse group and an excellent destination for the day. I'm sure Peter Egan would be proud. People really should do this all over the country on the same day, eh? Now, what's next....... Todd Byrum Gilbertsville, PA -----Original Message----- From: Rob Haut Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 7:19 PM Cuppla pictures from the Gassing Day gathering today. Fantastic day for a ride though farm lands. You do smell A LOT out that way when riding. http://picasaweb.google.com/321design/100403GasserRide# From dbcase at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 12:05:16 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:05:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <1b687.ae385b2.38ea96f1@aol.com> <4BB94130.1000602@ptd.net> Message-ID: Brian sends: > I think this will get it a bit better. ?In Terrain mode, where it > shows that things are going up pretty quick there. > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Mahantongo+St,+Hegins,+Schuylkill,+Pennsylvania+17938&sll=40.617927,-76.545181&sspn=0.031468,0.076218&gl=us&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FW1HbAIdEkFv-w&split=0&hq=&hnear=Mahantongo+St,+Hegins,+Schuylkill,+Pennsylvania+17938&ll=40.657755,-76.597624&spn=0.015725,0.038109&t=p&z=15 Yep, that's the turn, all right. What a place to lose focus....not! > > Dave you got a note from Sue for the EMTs and Nurses??? > Nope...hence the extreme measures. :) I feel better today. Less sore. :) Dave Case Lansdale, PA From jaburke4 at verizon.net Mon Apr 5 12:27:45 2010 From: jaburke4 at verizon.net (John Burkhauser) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:27:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: multitasking while driving. Message-ID: <61CBD899-A637-4530-BA0F-E3C827B23F90@verizon.net> Great! How many of the 97.5% think the can actually function like this? Supertaskers: Why Multitasking Comes Easily for Some : http://bit.ly/aoODym This article was sent from TIME's mobile app. To download the FREE TIME iPhone or Blackberry application, click here: http://app.time.com From John A. Burkhauser From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 12:41:11 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:41:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: multitasking while driving. In-Reply-To: <61CBD899-A637-4530-BA0F-E3C827B23F90@verizon.net> References: <61CBD899-A637-4530-BA0F-E3C827B23F90@verizon.net> Message-ID: On 4/5/10, John Burkhauser wrote: > Great! How many of the 97.5% think the can actually function like this? > > Supertaskers: Why Multitasking Comes Easily for Some : http://bit.ly/aoODym > > This article was sent from TIME's mobile app. To download the FREE > TIME iPhone or Blackberry application, click here: http://app.time.com If you don't want to be tracked (Many of the twitter space "tinyurler's" track who is looking where.) Here is where I think that John is sending you. http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2010/03/rare-supertaskers-balance-driving-and-cellphone-use.ars Likely all those from Lake Woebegon where everyone is above average... It is interesting that the researchers went hunting like crazy to figure out "Why is this not turning out how we expected." Wish that others would do a better job of examining confounding factors when it _does_ turn out the way they expect. Someone else found that when you pound one spot in the brain with a magnetic field, you can affect their sense of right and wrong. Related to this? Dunno. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 14:17:13 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:17:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] The future of motorcycling??? Message-ID: Doesn't look it would be real aerodymanic until the fuel supply gets real low. http://www.heritage-images.com/Preview/PreviewPage.aspx?id=2323944 (WS) Made from trees and other forage it would be "carbon neutral" though. Happy and Dapper family though. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jack.riepe at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 14:40:50 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:40:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: Dear Dave: I tried to call you yesterday and got no answer. But I'm over it. It's interesting that you claim to have made tens of thousands of turns, yet this was the one that got away from you. Sounds to me like you've picked up a few bad habits. If I were you, I'd sign up for the "Jack Riepe Guaranteed Motorcycle Training Course to Avoid the Mean Lean." This 3-day, $4500-course will tell you everything you need to know including the magic 35-mph ideal "no lean" speed, the art of making a 90? degree turn with both feet on the ground, and the ever-popular center-stand u-turn. You won't regret mastering my techniques. Look what the have done for Bregstein. Glad you walked away from this one, sort of. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From dbcase at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 15:36:29 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:36:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Dave: > > I tried to call you yesterday and got no answer. But I'm over it. > > It's interesting that you claim to have made tens of thousands of > turns, yet this was the one that got away from you. Sounds to me like > you've picked up a few bad habits. This one was mis-judged, that's for sure. If I were you, I'd sign up for the > "Jack Riepe Guaranteed Motorcycle Training Course to Avoid the Mean > Lean." This 3-day, $4500-course will tell you everything you need to > know including the magic 35-mph ideal "no lean" speed, the art of > making a 90? degree turn with both feet on the ground, and the > ever-popular center-stand u-turn. Sounds tempting. What do you offer in the way of driving convertibles? > > Glad you walked away from this one, sort of. > Sort of glad, or sort of walked away? :) Dave Case feeling physically good in Lansdale From j_ellenberg at hotmail.com Mon Apr 5 15:36:01 2010 From: j_ellenberg at hotmail.com (James Ellenberg) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:36:01 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net>, Message-ID: Dave, Glad to hear you're O.K. This stuff happens and I am glad you made it through. Having been admitted to the emergency unit at Lehigh almost two years ago now, after a huge get off over the bars of the V- strom, I know that you received the best possible care. Those folks are fantastic. The physical problems will heal soon, but it's going to take a whole lot longer to sift through the mental scrapes and contusions. However, I'm sure you'll do just fine. Big Jim > Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:14:26 -0400 > From: dbcase at gmail.com > To: chrisjac at ptd.net > CC: mac-pac-l at jtan.com > Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday > > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Chris wrote: > > After the Quentin Annual Ga(s)sing Day meet, .... Dave Case riding > > his BMW R80 went off the road on very tight, uphill decreasing right > > hand turn. > > > > > Chris, > Thanks for informing the Pac. > ..... > I'm home, after a 'copter ride and 24 hour stay at the hosp., but I > gotta find better ways to meet cute women. My injuries are just as > Chris mentioned. I'm not even taking pain meds. I'll be keeping an > eye on the concussion, though. A slight headache, no nausea to date. > My left side took the shot... but enough about me, let's dissect the > accident, shall we? :) > > OK, so we leave Quentin for the ridges and valleys paralleling Blue > Mountain, SW to NE. Once we lost traffic, we were having a blast. 7 > bikes, 9 riders. Of course, I've been thinking about the accident > non-stop, I've pieced it together from my own memory and my trailing > rider's observations. It was an uphill hairpin righthander, that I > somehow failed to recognize as a switchback turn in this mountain road > (PA125). One of the culprits to this, I think, is the tendency of my > helmet to drop down to just above my eyebrows in the front. Thus, my > "overhead line of sight" is gone, when it does that. I've been helmet > shopping, intending to replace this (HJC Symax, b/c of this new > tendency to drop and b/c it's 5 y.o.) > > Now, I've been riding 24 years, the first 22 on the R80ST. I know > that bike like the back of my hand. I've put 64k miles on it. How > many turns it that, would you estimate? Real turns, the fun stuff. > tens of thousands, right? I made a mistake on this one. Why? I think > the impaired up-the-brow vision my HJC cause me to not read the > decreasing radius of the uphill hairpin. > > Found myself entering the turn to low and too hot for that low line. > Scrubbed as much speed as I could, but had to release and dive in. > The inside was flat and broken apart and a bit rippled I later > learned. The outside was banked nicely. Dave, the rider behind me, > said he saw my line, decided it was too low, took his eyes off me a > sec, reset his line for outside-in, and saw me tumbling. > > I remember having that bike pitched over to the right so far to make > the turn, that the pavement was dangerously close to my side. "This > isn't going to work", I remember thinking. Next thing I knew, I had > that view of heads looking at me. Melinda first. She was first on > the scene, as Jacc and her were behind Dave, Chris dropped her off > with me, and went on to park the 'Wing. Mel never left my side until > the EMTs arrived > > Dave said I lowsided, but didn't let go of the bike, the bike must > have straightened up at the end, hit the embankment and flipped end > over 180 degrees, landing back on it's tires facing the way it came > in, then fell over on it's side in the brush. He said I was > catapulted upward from the bike-buck and landed on my head, dropping > onto my chest. > > Whoever wrote that my head injury may have been more like a punch, I > agree. My upper jaw is sore like I got punched. Next is sore (twist?) > too. I give Dave extra points for simultaneously making the hairpin > with my ballet act and result all in view. Well done, there, rider! > :) > > I've already been asked if this shakes my desire to ride. A question > I asked myself all night. If my shoulder and knee are up to it, I > hope to ride to PFD in two weeks. And riding for real in less than > that. :) > > The gear worked. > Boots: SIDI Stradas with that big breast plate of a shin protector. > Absorbed a shock and gave me the rest in the form of a contusion on > the shin. I'll live. > Pants: Have knee armor, took that blast and gave me what was left > over. Again, I'll live. > Heavy leather jacket, no armor, but thick and dbl leather on shoulders > and elbows. > Helmet. > Gloves. > Not one speck of exposed skin. > No broken bones, no scraped skin, no internal injuries. > > Yes, I'm lucky, and am counting my blessings. I missed a boulder. > Before all that happened, I was having a ball!! So, I'll be back. > > Thanks for everyone's well wishes. and DO ride safe out there... b/c > there MUST be better ways to meet cute EMTs and RNs. > > Dave Case > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100405/166cf142/attachment.html From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Mon Apr 5 15:58:31 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <577725537.7158341270483111425.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >If I were you, I'd sign up for the >"Jack Riepe Guaranteed Motorcycle Training Course to Avoid the Mean >Lean." This 3-day, $4500-course will tell you everything you need to >know including the magic 35-mph ideal "no lean" speed, the art of >making a 90? degree turn with both feet on the ground, and the >ever-popular center-stand u-turn. Does this include the "Mini-van avoidance class" or is that extra? John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 17:12:35 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now HERE's a "bike" Message-ID: http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/04/treadmill-bike-gets-you-running-on-two-wheels-video.php (WS, but DO NOT be eating or drinking while viewing the video. NOT responsible for any keyboard or display cleaning!!!) Dave, you would have to be working a LOT harder to crash this one. Maybe. But you would be going slower!!! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motoedde2 at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 17:21:18 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:21:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now HERE's a "bike" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/04/treadmill-bike-gets-you-running-on-two-wheels-video.php > (WS, but DO NOT be eating or drinking while viewing the video. ?NOT > responsible for any keyboard or display cleaning!!!) > > Dave, you would have to be working a LOT harder to crash this one. > Maybe. ?But you would be going slower!!! If you posted this to a Goldwing list...I bet they'd want to customize this with running neon lights under the treadmill, the Sprewells would have their initials embossed, etc. -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 17:23:55 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:23:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now HERE's a "bike" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/5/10, edde m wrote: > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > > http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/04/treadmill-bike-gets-you-running-on-two-wheels-video.php > > (WS, but DO NOT be eating or drinking while viewing the video. NOT > > responsible for any keyboard or display cleaning!!!) > > > > Dave, you would have to be working a LOT harder to crash this one. > > Maybe. But you would be going slower!!! > > > If you posted this to a Goldwing list...I bet they'd want to customize > this with running neon lights under the treadmill, the Sprewells would > have their initials embossed, etc. Your right. I forgot to mention how cool I thought the spinnner hubs were. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From dbcase at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 17:50:55 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:50:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now HERE's a "bike" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/04/treadmill-bike-gets-you-running-on-two-wheels-video.php > (WS, but DO NOT be eating or drinking while viewing the video. ?NOT > responsible for any keyboard or display cleaning!!!) > > Dave, you would have to be working a LOT harder to crash this one. > Maybe. ?But you would be going slower!!! > Tom Petty's Running Down a Dream comes to mind. DC From rogers.george at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 17:55:52 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:55:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: multitasking while driving. In-Reply-To: References: <61CBD899-A637-4530-BA0F-E3C827B23F90@verizon.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Brian Curry wrote: > On 4/5/10, John Burkhauser wrote: >> ... > Someone else found that when you pound one spot in the brain with a > magnetic field, you can affect their sense of right and wrong. > Related to this? ?Dunno. > ... Almost. The magnetic thing affects your ability to intuit another person's motives, which affects how you react to what they do. From antifreeze at earthlink.net Mon Apr 5 19:01:44 2010 From: antifreeze at earthlink.net (antifreeze at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday Message-ID: <2896184.1270494104809.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net> -----Original Message----- >From: David Case >Sent: Apr 4, 2010 4:14 PM >To: Chris >Cc: mac-Pac >Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday > >Chris, >Thanks for informing the Pac. >..... >I'm home, after a 'copter ride and 24 hour stay at the hosp., but I >gotta find better ways to meet cute women. >> >Dave Case Dave, Sorry for the mishap, and very glad to hear you are up and around with no major damage. You're even well enough to give a play by play of the fall-off! Hope to see you on a bike again soon. Regards, Gary Lowe Phila '99 R1100SA '05 Triumph Daytona 650 '08 Hypermotard _______________________________________________ >Mac-pac-l mailing list >Mac-pac-l at jtan.com >http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From dbcase at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 19:25:38 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:25:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Healing Nicely Message-ID: Fellow Pac'rs, I want to thank all of those who sent me well-wishes on a speedy recovery. I can tell you, I am feeling quite good today. :) The leg and shoulder are much better. No doubt I could ride the RS today, but won't. I started the insurance claim process, and am trying to locate the bike's whereabouts. I'll be picking it up via trailer this Sat. (hopefully) I am truly counting my blessings! Ride safe out there gang. Dave Case Lansdale, PA From dbcase at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 20:23:50 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:23:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Healing Nicely In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Dick wrote: > That's great news, Dave. > Riepe once told me, "Slow and steady wins the race." I don't [think] he > believed it though. > I believe it. I plan to use the slow(er) and steady regimen from now on. :) Dave Case From elkwalks at ptd.net Mon Apr 5 20:28:47 2010 From: elkwalks at ptd.net (Dan Dolby) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:28:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] towing insurance Message-ID: AAA or BMW MOA From jack.riepe at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 20:32:30 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:32:30 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <4BB89C9C.3080809@ptd.net> Message-ID: Dear Dave: I meant glad that you walked away -- from the hospital, at least, with minimal injuries. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From chrisjac at ptd.net Mon Apr 5 21:32:55 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:32:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] towing insurance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BBA5707.5060407@ptd.net> Dan Dolby wrote: > AAA or BMW MOA > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > > AAA+...covers just about any vehicle I am IN or DRIVING. Chris Jaccarino From droos at mondenet.com Mon Apr 5 21:35:03 2010 From: droos at mondenet.com (Dave Roos) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:35:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Master Cylinder Rebuild Message-ID: <23A1AFCF9585406C9C363843A7F3E6BF@DROOS> I would like some input regarding front master brake cylinder rebuild. As I was ready to put it away for the winter the front brake lever went right to the handle bar. It will hold fluid but it is leaking below the front MC reservoir. I called a BMW repair shop to arrange to bring it in for a MC rebuild along with some other work. He told me that BMW does not sell rebuild kits for my bike because it has ABS. This seems odd to me as I don't see the connect with a front MC and ABS. Does this make sense? This is the first time I have talked to this mechanic and I didn't want to make waves. The mechanic I always brought my bike to passed away. Dave From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 21:46:18 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:46:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now THIS is a battery..... Message-ID: http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-04/texas-town-turns-monster-battery-backup-power (WS) "An aging transmission line built in 1948 is the only link between the U.S. power grid and the little city of Presidio in West Texas. So Presidio has invested in a single huge battery that can power the entire town and serve as emergency backup for the frequent outages caused by the line going down, NPR reports. The huge battery began charging up this week and can store up to four megawatts of power for up to eight hours. It represents the first NaS battery in Texas and the biggest in the U.S., and has already earned the local nickname of BOB (big-old battery)." I like the "began charging". I suspect that if they "really" charged it the town would go out of light. I wonder if they will have to rebuild it every three years like a LA battery... Loved the statement by the writer that they hope the utility companies don't use batteries as a crutch for "avoid giving the power grid a makeover." The utility companies would like to. Now the people who's backyards the grid would go through not so much. Put the blame where it should go. Oh, and I do hope that no one EVER drops a wrench and does amateur welding using the battery. EVER!!! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From pasegc at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 21:47:32 2010 From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:47:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Healing Nicely In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:25 PM, David Case wrote: > Fellow Pac'rs, > > I want to thank all of those who sent me well-wishes on a speedy > recovery. ?I can tell you, I am feeling quite good today. :) ?The leg > and shoulder are much better. ?No doubt I could ride the RS today, but > won't. ?I started the insurance claim process, and am trying to locate > the bike's whereabouts. ?I'll be picking it up via trailer this Sat. > (hopefully) > Dave, I must say I was stunned to read about your accident. I know that you are doing well now but damn man you scared the sh*t out of an old friend. Really pleased to hear you are on the mend. Getting there is the name of the game. No matter where there is. Gerry Cavanaugh Coatesville, PA From dbcase at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 21:54:22 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:54:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Healing Nicely In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Gerry Cavanaugh wrote: > > > Dave, I must say I was stunned to read about your accident. ?I know > that you are doing well now but damn man you scared the sh*t out of an > old friend. ?Really pleased to hear you are on the mend. > > Gerry Cavanaugh Thanks Gerry, Yeah, I told Chris to downplay the accident and let everyone know I was ok, but when was the last time he listened to anyone on this List? :) Dave Case From chrisjac at ptd.net Mon Apr 5 22:03:15 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:03:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Healing Nicely In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BBA5E23.30607@ptd.net> David Case wrote: > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Gerry Cavanaugh wrote: > >> Dave, I must say I was stunned to read about your accident. I know >> that you are doing well now but damn man you scared the sh*t out of an >> old friend. Really pleased to hear you are on the mend. >> >> Gerry Cavanaugh >> > > Thanks Gerry, > Yeah, I told Chris to downplay the accident and let everyone know I > was ok, but when was the last time he listened to anyone on this List? > :) > Dave Case > You didnt say squat about downplay. I report the facts, nothing more, nothing less. I aint Riepe and I dont sling BS or embellish BS to get readers. So, what do you want me to do with the video of your extrication? Do I hear $50? Chris Jaccarino > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From Ducdude at verizon.net Mon Apr 5 22:23:35 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:23:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Healing Nicely References: <4BBA5E23.30607@ptd.net> Message-ID: > > You didnt say squat about downplay. I report the facts, nothing more, > nothing less. I aint Riepe and I dont sling BS or embellish BS to get > readers. So, what do you want me to do with the video of your > extrication? Do I hear $50? > > Chris Jaccarino > I'll Bid $50!! Dave, man what can I say that other have not....I am just smiling to know that you and my favorite rolling gas station are and will still be there for the next go round... Man am I happy to hear you are well! Duc From dbcase at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 22:55:18 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:55:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Healing Nicely In-Reply-To: <4BBA5E23.30607@ptd.net> References: <4BBA5E23.30607@ptd.net> Message-ID: Jaccarino wrote: > > You didnt say squat about downplay. ?I report the facts, nothing more, > nothing less. ?I aint Riepe and I dont sling BS or embellish BS to get > readers. Fair enough. > So, what do you want me to do with the video of your extrication? > ? Do I hear $50? Capitalist opportunistic whore! (lessee....where the hell did I put my wallet?...) Dave Case From motoedde2 at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 22:58:50 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:58:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Healing Nicely In-Reply-To: References: <4BBA5E23.30607@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:55 PM, David Case wrote: > Jaccarino wrote: >> >> You didnt say squat about downplay. ?I report the facts, nothing more, >> nothing less. ?I aint Riepe and I dont sling BS or embellish BS to get >> readers. > > Fair enough. > >> ?So, what do you want me to do with the video of your extrication? >> ? Do I hear $50? > > Capitalist opportunistic whore! ? (lessee....where the hell did I put > my wallet?...) He prefers bullion... -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From dbcase at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 23:02:08 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:02:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Healing Nicely In-Reply-To: References: <4BBA5E23.30607@ptd.net> Message-ID: > Dave, man what can I say that other have not....I am just smiling to know > that you and my favorite rolling gas station are and will still be there for > the next go round... > > Man am I happy to hear ?you are well! > > Duc > Thanks Ducdude. Hopefully it will 'roll on' sooner than later. For those who don't know what Duc is talking about, an airhead's gas tank is easily removed w/o tools, which makes it a great "gas can" for, oh I dunno, say, refueling a 1972 Honda which ran out of gas. Dave Case From dbcase at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 23:03:09 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:03:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Healing Nicely In-Reply-To: References: <4BBA5E23.30607@ptd.net> Message-ID: Beef or chicken? DC edde wrote of Jaccarino: > > He prefers bullion... > From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 23:13:07 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:13:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Healing Nicely In-Reply-To: References: <4BBA5E23.30607@ptd.net> Message-ID: On 4/5/10, David Case wrote: > Beef or chicken? > DC > > edde wrote of Jaccarino: > > > > He prefers bullion... Metallic. "Real money" Although "rocks" may work too. Say made of carbon. Save the world, by capturing carbon for Chris. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Apr 5 23:23:40 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:23:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen tile is down Message-ID: <8CCA32E292D29D8-32A0-BC0F@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> Now to grout! http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#828804084_UNMiP Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From wayne at 2zars.com Mon Apr 5 23:27:27 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:27:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen tile is down In-Reply-To: <8CCA32E292D29D8-32A0-BC0F@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA32E292D29D8-32A0-BC0F@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <3eskr55938o3j8ughbo01jbv2bdnbt4t7o@4ax.com> Looks great! >Now to grout! The sucky part! Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 23:45:15 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:45:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Those iPads are DARN TOUGH!! Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko (WS) They are far tougher than I woulda thought. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From Ducdude at verizon.net Mon Apr 5 23:53:32 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:53:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fw: Healing Nicely Message-ID: > Thanks Ducdude. Hopefully it will 'roll on' sooner than later. > For those who don't know what Duc is talking about, an airhead's gas > tank is easily removed w/o tools, which makes it a great "gas can" > for, oh I dunno, say, refueling a 1972 Honda which ran out of gas. > > Dave Case Hey hey, the Honda NEVER ran out of gas!!! We had just temporally kept some of the gas for the Honda the the tank of his R80:-) Thanks again... Duc From jasiii at earthlink.net Tue Apr 6 01:12:50 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:12:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Master Cylinder Rebuild In-Reply-To: <23A1AFCF9585406C9C363843A7F3E6BF@DROOS> Message-ID: > I would like some input regarding front master brake cylinder rebuild. > > Dave A few years ago I got a rebuild kit for my R1100RS 96 from Devon. The "trick" was finding a honing tool, got one for old Datsun for the front brakes cylinder... Found some listings at http://www.usedbmwmotorcycleparts.com/frbrmacylrek.html Hope this helps Jim From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 01:59:31 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:59:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Master Cylinder Rebuild In-Reply-To: <23A1AFCF9585406C9C363843A7F3E6BF@DROOS> References: <23A1AFCF9585406C9C363843A7F3E6BF@DROOS> Message-ID: On 4/5/10, Dave Roos wrote: > rebuild along with some other work. He told me that BMW does not sell > rebuild kits for my bike because it has ABS. This seems odd to me as I > don't > see the connect with a front MC and ABS. Does this make sense? It does in lawyer land. Rebuilding has all kinds of things that can go wrong. "new from us" we can be responsible. Kinda. Most of the time. > This is the first time I have talked to this mechanic and I didn't want to > make waves. The only way to not make waves is do what he says. If you want to take a wack at it yourself. http://www.beemerboneyard.com tends to be good on having parts from Magura that BMW does not offer. There are not "that" many variants in MC construction. You did not mention bike model which might help or affect the point. It would affect what realoem.com says is available. > The mechanic I always brought my bike to passed away. > > > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jasiii at earthlink.net Tue Apr 6 01:47:05 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:47:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but why ?? Message-ID: OK just got to share this.. Bad day at work.. Coming home late, driving easy.. Not a good day Turned onto Naamans road.. Caught the first light.. Stopped and waited; when green drove on and caught the next light.. Did another full stop and again waited.. Turned green and continued for about 50 yards.. Then the lights and siren.. What ?? Pulled over, got paper work out, took off helmet.. County office comes up asks for all the paper, handed it to him and asked ?? Why ?? No answer, as he goes back to his car.. I sit there waiting and going over my driving in my mind for the short time I was in Delaware tonight... And I waited.. Second car pulls up.. First officer walks back to me with the paper work and his "book" .. Second officer walks up ?? He asks what is going on ?? I ask, again, "why was I stopped" ?? First office says "you did NOT put your feet down at either light when you stopped" I said ??? WHAAAT ??? A bit loud and with a real questioning tone ?? Second officer, who is a corporal , looks at first officer with a "WTH" type expression. I then said that I have read the DMV laws a couple of times, that I have had licenses in California, Georgia, Pa and Delaware and that I had never seen any laws or rules that mc operators needed to put their feet down ?? Second officer then says to the first officer "Ah lets go back here for a minute".. After a minute or two officer one, with my paper work, comes to me and says .. Sorry, Have a nice day. Ahh come on.. Now they are trying to make up laws ?? Jim (sitting on his bike without his feet down) -- Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 02:09:25 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:09:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but why ?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/5/10, James A. Sterling wrote: > Ahh come on.. Now they are trying to make up laws ?? Your money is green and that is GOOD. They need it.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From gary5410 at aol.com Tue Apr 6 02:12:47 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:12:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but why ?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCA345C9249E98-32A0-D9C2@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> Let you go...turned out OK! Tomorrow hopefully will be better! Gary Christma'07 R1200 GS Adventure <> From rsorens at comcast.net Tue Apr 6 02:16:31 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:16:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but why ?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >....Ahh come on.. Now they are trying to make up laws ?? > >Jim (sitting on his bike without his feet down) This subject came up on the LDRider list a month or so ago, same situation, basically. Ricer pulls up to stop sign, gets pulled over. Goes thru same routine you did, Jim. Except there was no 'good cop' there to whack the over zealous douche in the back of the heed. Consensus seemed to have been the same as you came to: putting your foot/feet down is NOT a necessity for a valid stop. Rick From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 02:29:22 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:29:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but why ?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/5/10, Rick Sorensen wrote: > >....Ahh come on.. Now they are trying to make up laws ?? > >Jim (sitting on his bike without his feet down) > > > This subject came up on the LDRider list a month or so ago, same situation, > basically. Ricer pulls up to stop sign, gets pulled over. Goes thru same > routine you did, Jim. Except there was no 'good cop' there to whack the over > zealous douche in the back of the heed. > > Consensus seemed to have been the same as you came to: putting your > foot/feet down is NOT a necessity for a valid stop. Gene Ribas got stopped for that. Cop was giving him a hard time about how you HAD to put your feet down. Gene then pointed out to him, that his feet were not down right then.... While the cop stood there and was chewing on him. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jasiii at earthlink.net Tue Apr 6 02:46:14 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:46:14 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but why ?? Message-ID: <29507487.1270521974519.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] OT but why ?? > >On 4/5/10, James A. Sterling wrote: > >> Ahh come on.. Now they are trying to make up laws ?? > >Your money is green and that is GOOD. They need it.... Back in the late 70's I was riding on Conestoga road and stopped at 320 when it was a two lane road. Radnor cope gave me a ticket because I did not stop, I had and had looked both ways and saw him, even nodded at him. Went to court, asked the judge if I could do a loop of the parking lot, stop and light a smoke to show I had stopped, Judge said OK this I want to see. I put on an open face helmet, did the loop, stopped, lit a smoke and the Judge then said Dismissed! go home.. about two weeks later a Radnor Sargent stopped me again for not coming to a full stop.. went to the same Judge, he looked at me and said why are you here again ?? I told him the same story, he went Go Home and Sargent please come over here to the bench.. I rode very slowly the rest of that summer when I was in Radnor but I did not get any more tickets for that. We need more doughnut shops to keep the police happy... Jim (getting old but still with some limited balance) James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From 321design at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 02:50:51 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:50:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but why ?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:47 PM, James A. Sterling wrote: > OK just got to share this.. > > Bad day at work.. Coming home late, driving easy.. Not a good day > > Turned onto Naamans road.. Caught the first light.. Stopped and waited; when > green drove on and caught the next light.. Did another full stop and again > waited.. Turned green and continued for about 50 yards.. ?Then the lights > and siren.. What ?? Pulled over, got paper work out, took off helmet.. So what that would mean is that you would not be allowed to slow down before reaching the red light so you wouldn't have to come to a stop. I do that all the time - saves fuel not having to start from a dead stop. -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From droos at mondenet.com Tue Apr 6 02:54:16 2010 From: droos at mondenet.com (Dave Roos) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:54:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Master Cylinder Rebuild References: <23A1AFCF9585406C9C363843A7F3E6BF@DROOS> Message-ID: Sorry, it is a 1994 R1100RS. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Curry" To: "Dave Roos" Cc: "Macpac" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Master Cylinder Rebuild > On 4/5/10, Dave Roos wrote: > >> rebuild along with some other work. He told me that BMW does not sell >> rebuild kits for my bike because it has ABS. This seems odd to me as I >> don't >> see the connect with a front MC and ABS. Does this make sense? > > It does in lawyer land. Rebuilding has all kinds of things that can > go wrong. "new from us" we can be responsible. Kinda. Most of the > time. > >> This is the first time I have talked to this mechanic and I didn't want >> to >> make waves. > > The only way to not make waves is do what he says. > > If you want to take a wack at it yourself. > http://www.beemerboneyard.com tends to be good on having parts from > Magura that BMW does not offer. There are not "that" many variants in > MC construction. > > You did not mention bike model which might help or affect the point. > It would affect what realoem.com says is available. > > > >> The mechanic I always brought my bike to passed away. >> >> >> Dave >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mac-pac-l mailing list >> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com >> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l >> > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ambassador BMW MOA | > Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? > "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped > K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at > Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2789 - Release Date: 04/04/10 06:32:00 From dbcase at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 03:16:35 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 23:16:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but why ?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> wrote: > > > So what that would mean is that you would not be allowed to slow down > before reaching the red light so you wouldn't have to come to a stop. > I do that all the time - saves fuel not having to start from a dead > stop. > > -- > Rob Haut Y'could slide up to the intersection on the cylinder head. :) -- DC From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 03:33:34 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 23:33:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Master Cylinder Rebuild In-Reply-To: References: <23A1AFCF9585406C9C363843A7F3E6BF@DROOS> Message-ID: TRIM Reminder On 4/5/10, Dave Roos wrote: > Sorry, it is a 1994 R1100RS. Here is the realoem.com page. Your not going to like what it says. http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=0416&mospid=47942&btnr=32_0784&hg=32&fg=10 It says there is a rebuild kit for the MC that are anodized. I got a feeling that was a running change. I think those MC's tended to corrode a good bit. Which is the other part. It is 15 years old. If it suddenly went to the grip it may be indicating there is internal corrosion in the bore. If the bore is dead, the MC is dead. Which is another reason mechanics hate rebuilds. Get the parts, open it up and "opps". Plus if it dies with a new one on it, there is no question that it is not their fault, less chance of call backs, and mechanics REALLY HATE them. No good answers here. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Tue Apr 6 11:23:11 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but why ?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <425339122.7501251270552991399.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > So what that would mean is that you would not be allowed to slow down > before reaching the red light so you wouldn't have to come to a stop. > I do that all the time - saves fuel not having to start from a dead > stop. When I got my license at the Dublin DMV a long time ago, I only put one foot down at the stop sign on the course. I was told by the trooper that he could fail me for that, but he didn't. I do not put feet down all the time, but not if there is a cop behind me. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From 321design at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 11:50:06 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:50:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Now that is some awesome German engineering Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=RobaJKGMMiE -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From ephoet at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 13:22:04 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:22:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now THIS is a battery..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-04/texas-town-turns-monster-battery-backup-power > (WS) > > "An aging transmission line built in 1948 is the only link between the > U.S. power grid and the little city of Presidio in West Texas. So > Presidio has invested in a single huge battery that can power the > entire town and serve as emergency backup for the frequent outages > caused by the line going down, NPR reports. > > The huge battery began charging up this week and can store up to four > megawatts of power for up to eight hours. It represents the first NaS > battery in Texas and the biggest in the U.S., and has already earned > the local nickname of BOB (big-old battery)." > > I like the "began charging". ?I suspect that if they "really" charged > it the town would go out of light. > > I wonder if they will have to rebuild it every three years like a LA battery... > > Loved the statement by the writer that they hope the utility companies > don't use batteries as a crutch for "avoid giving the power grid a > makeover." ?The utility companies would like to. ?Now the people who's > backyards the grid would go through not so much. ?Put the blame where > it should go. > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Presidio is maybe 40 miles due W of Big Bend NP, along the Rio Grande. The old transmission line parallels TX Rt 67 N to Marfa. Not much out there but rocks and rattlesnakes And now "BOB" from Accountemps................... Original NPR article http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125561502 Related USA article on a 2007 application http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/environment/2007-07-04-sodium-battery_N.htm More details on sodium-sulfur batteries here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium-sulfur_battery "TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Co.)/NGK (NGK Insulators Ltd.) consortium declared their interest in researching the NaS battery in 1983, and have become the primary drivers behind the development of this type ever since. TEPCO chose the NAS battery because all its component elements (Sodium, Sulphur, Ceramics) can be abundantly found in Japan. First large-scale prototype field testing took place at TEPCO's Tsunashima substation between 1993 and 1996, using 3 x 2 MW, 6.6 kV battery banks. Based on the findings from this trial, improved battery modules were developed and were made commercially available in 2000. The performance of the commercial NAS battery bank is as follows: 1. Capacity : 25?250 kW per bank 2. Efficiency of 87% 3. Lifetime of 2,500 cycles (at 100% DOD - depth of discharge), or 4,500 cycles (at 80% DOD) As of 2008, sodium-sulfur batteries are only manufactured by one group, the NGK/TEPCO consortium, which is producing 90 MW of storage capacity each year. " EPH From Doug at pencader.com Tue Apr 6 13:29:15 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:29:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen tile is down In-Reply-To: <8CCA32E292D29D8-32A0-BC0F@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA32E292D29D8-32A0-BC0F@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <02f001cad58d$292cfe40$7b86fac0$@com> Gary wrote: >>> snips > Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen tile is down > Now to grout! > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#828804084_UNMi P >>> end Gary, Man, doesn't that look great! What color grout are you using . . . matching or contrasting? Super job. Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From gary5410 at aol.com Tue Apr 6 13:36:19 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:36:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen tile is down In-Reply-To: <02f001cad58d$292cfe40$7b86fac0$@com> References: <8CCA32E292D29D8-32A0-BC0F@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> <02f001cad58d$292cfe40$7b86fac0$@com> Message-ID: <8CCA3A546590769-1CD8-B280@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com> Dark gray grout, med cherry cabinets, Dark gray/black granite......should be nice! Nice to be building and not demolishing! Gary -----Original Message----- Gary wrote: >>> snips > Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen tile is down > Now to grout! > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#828804084_UNMi P >>> end Gary, Man, doesn't that look great! What color grout are you using . . . matching or contrasting? Super job. Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From misevich at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 13:37:40 2010 From: misevich at gmail.com (Dave Misevich) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:37:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen tile is down In-Reply-To: <8CCA32E292D29D8-32A0-BC0F@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA32E292D29D8-32A0-BC0F@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Gary Christman wrote: > Now to grout! > Looks great Gary, I really like the tile. One thing I like to do is use a microfiber towel to remove grout rather than a grout sponge. You can do more work between rinses by folding the towel different ways when it loads up. From Doug at pencader.com Tue Apr 6 13:40:45 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:40:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] towing insurance In-Reply-To: <4BBA5707.5060407@ptd.net> References: <4BBA5707.5060407@ptd.net> Message-ID: <02f601cad58e$c4a4afc0$4dee0f40$@com> Dan and/or Chris wrote: >>> snipz > Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] towing insurance > Dan Dolby wrote: >> AAA or BMW MOA >>> additional snips > AAA+...covers just about any vehicle I am IN or DRIVING. > Chris Jaccarino >>> end Fellas, Our BMW/MOA memberships also include various levels of towing services as well, right? Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From motoedde2 at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 14:18:23 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 10:18:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] towing insurance In-Reply-To: <02f601cad58e$c4a4afc0$4dee0f40$@com> References: <4BBA5707.5060407@ptd.net> <02f601cad58e$c4a4afc0$4dee0f40$@com> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Doug wrote: > Dan and/or Chris wrote: > >>>> snipz > >> Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] towing insurance > >> Dan Dolby wrote: >>> ?AAA or BMW MOA > >>>> additional snips > >> AAA+...covers just about any vehicle I am IN or DRIVING. > >> Chris Jaccarino > >>>> end > > Fellas, > > Our BMW/MOA memberships also include various levels of towing services as > well, right? I think that would be ironic if they offered it... -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 14:30:43 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 10:30:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now THIS is a battery..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/6/10, Erik Hoet wrote: > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > "TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Co.)/NGK (NGK Insulators Ltd.) consortium > declared their interest in researching the NaS battery in 1983, and > have become the primary drivers behind the development of this type > ever since. TEPCO chose the NAS battery because all its component > elements (Sodium, Sulphur, Ceramics) can be abundantly found in Japan. I know they make ceramics. They have volcanoes so there is sulphur. But sodium? Or they sucking it out of the sodium chloride in the sea? > 2. Efficiency of 87% Better than pump storage which runs about 75%. > 3. Lifetime of 2,500 cycles (at 100% DOD - depth of discharge), or > 4,500 cycles (at 80% DOD) 100% might be a ten year life time. I wonder how often it will be hit in TX? Or since it is a demo project will they "hit it" with some regularity for test purposes? > As of 2008, sodium-sulfur batteries are only manufactured by one > group, the NGK/TEPCO consortium, which is producing 90 MW of storage > capacity each year. " That is a pretty good sized chunk of storage. I wonder if the "concrete boxes" are so that if something goes "real wrong" the damage is limited to that bank? Sulphur will burn. Sodium burns "real well". I suspect the "joining" of the two is "interesting". I think that EPRI had some test vans powered by sodium sulfur cells. They need to be warm, and they kept them "hot" at the home port every night. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 14:40:45 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 10:40:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Prepaid cell service just outsold "conventional" paymen cell service Message-ID: The Dille's are leaders of the pack... http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20001793-266.html?tag=newsEditorsPicksArea.0 (WS) "A study released by the New Millennium Research Council, a Washington, D.C.-based think tank, last week said new prepaid wireless customers exceeded the number of new contract subscribers that signed up for service in the fourth quarter of 2009. This is the first time that prepaid services have outsold post-paid or contract services, the group said. New prepaid cell phone subscribers accounted for almost two-thirds of all 4.2 million cell phone subscribers that U.S. carriers added in the fourth quarter of 2009. The prepaid market grew 17 percent during the quarter to 54.4 million subscribers, up from 46.3 million during the same time a year ago. Meanwhile, contract-based cell phone subscribership grew only 3 percent over the same period." -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From Doug at pencader.com Tue Apr 6 14:49:33 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 10:49:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] towing insurance In-Reply-To: References: <4BBA5707.5060407@ptd.net> <02f601cad58e$c4a4afc0$4dee0f40$@com> Message-ID: <030201cad598$6139be80$23ad3b80$@com> Edde, in response to Doug, wrote: >>> self regulated snips >> Fellas, > >> Our BMW/MOA memberships also include various levels of towing services as >> well, right? > I think that would be ironic if they offered it... >>> end Edde, Yep, and upon further investigation, my BMW/MOA membership DOES include what's listed as "Prequalified Motorcycle Dispatch, i.e. Flatbed w/straps or cycle carrier" 24/7 up to 50 miles . . . but I do have the Platinum Cycle Club upgrade good through 2014. While I don't remember the exact charge for this additional feature, I do remember thinking that the additional money required to cover me through 2014 was very reasonable, so I anteed up. Thanks, Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Tue Apr 6 14:54:02 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:54:02 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Prepaid cell service just outsold 'conventional' paymen cell service In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15484.12.181.211.35.1270565642.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > The Dille's are leaders of the pack... > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20001793-266.html?tag=newsEditorsPicksArea.0 > (WS) > > "A study released by the New Millennium Research Council, a > Washington, D.C.-based think tank, last week said new prepaid wireless > customers exceeded the number of new contract subscribers that signed > up for service in the fourth quarter of 2009. How about that. Tomorrow Joey will receive his Trac phone for his 18th birthday. A rebuilt Motorola flip phone for voice and text with 800 minutes and double minutes in the future. Perhaps our order was the tipping point??? Ride Safe, Joe From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 15:52:12 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:52:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Trike with a nice headrest!!! Message-ID: http://www.trackshare.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=64891&d=1269351679 (WS) Rather pillowy. Oh, and it is not a Harley trike. It is a REAL farmer's trike. I like the exhausts too. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 15:55:39 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:55:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] towing insurance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/5/10, Dan Dolby wrote: > AAA or BMW MOA Linda Tanner had EXCELLENT experience with the KOA Roadside assistance plan. http://www.koa.com/rvroadhelp/ All she had was a penciled note on paper, with the policy number and the phone number when she had to use it. She had purchased it right before she left FL for CO for a IBA event. Pricing was not bad either. Tow vehicles were fine. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jack.riepe at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 19:17:30 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:17:30 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Now that is some awesome German engineering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There has to be an easier way to change the light bulb at the top of the white tower. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From rogers.george at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 19:44:08 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:44:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Now that is some awesome German engineering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Jack Riepe wrote: > There has to be an easier way to change the light bulb at the top of > the white tower. > > -- > Fondest regards, > Jack Yeah, it looks like he broke it anyway... Best wishes, Rogers George Newark, DE http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http://homegrownhens.com From elkwalks at ptd.net Tue Apr 6 20:28:06 2010 From: elkwalks at ptd.net (Dan Dolby) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 16:28:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] towing insurance References: Message-ID: > > Linda Tanner had EXCELLENT experience with the KOA Roadside assistance > plan. > > http://www.koa.com/rvroadhelp/ > > All she had was a penciled note on paper, with the policy number and > the phone number when she had to use it. She had purchased it right > before she left FL for CO for a IBA event. The problem with this is: 'unlimited amount for towing to the nearest service facility and/or on-site labor' That can mean the garage at the end of the block. AAA Premium Plus tows 100 miles whether you pass a BMW dealership or not. I've been towed by AAA with nothing but my driver's license. Called the 800 number, they verify my status, boom. From elkwalks at ptd.net Tue Apr 6 20:49:18 2010 From: elkwalks at ptd.net (Dan Dolby) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 16:49:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] towing insurance References: <4BBA5707.5060407@ptd.net><02f601cad58e$c4a4afc0$4dee0f40$@com> <030201cad598$6139be80$23ad3b80$@com> Message-ID: <19093396808A4FA29813A3D4AF2E9DAC@dan736a7e1b29d> >> >>> Our BMW/MOA memberships also include various levels of towing services >>> as >>> well, right? > >> I think that would be ironic if they offered it... > >>>> end > > Edde, > > Yep, and upon further investigation, my BMW/MOA membership DOES include > what's listed as "Prequalified Motorcycle Dispatch, i.e. Flatbed w/straps > or > cycle carrier" 24/7 up to 50 miles . . . but I do have the Platinum Cycle > Club upgrade good through 2014. While I don't remember the exact charge > for > this additional feature, I do remember thinking that the additional money > required to cover me through 2014 was very reasonable, so I anteed up. Here's the deal from the BMW MOA site: http://www.bmwmoa.org/club/membership/discounts_upgrades From motoedde2 at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 20:53:25 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 16:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] towing insurance In-Reply-To: <19093396808A4FA29813A3D4AF2E9DAC@dan736a7e1b29d> References: <4BBA5707.5060407@ptd.net> <02f601cad58e$c4a4afc0$4dee0f40$@com> <030201cad598$6139be80$23ad3b80$@com> <19093396808A4FA29813A3D4AF2E9DAC@dan736a7e1b29d> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Dan Dolby wrote: >>> >>>> Our BMW/MOA memberships also include various levels of towing services >>>> as >>>> well, right? >> >>> I think that would be ironic if they offered it... >> >>>>> end >> >> Edde, >> >> Yep, and upon further investigation, my BMW/MOA membership DOES include >> what's listed as "Prequalified Motorcycle Dispatch, i.e. Flatbed w/straps >> or >> cycle carrier" 24/7 up to 50 miles . . . but I do have the Platinum Cycle >> Club upgrade good through 2014. While I don't remember the exact charge >> for >> this additional feature, I do remember thinking that the additional money >> required to cover me through 2014 was very reasonable, so I anteed up. > > > Here's the deal from the BMW MOA site: > > http://www.bmwmoa.org/club/membership/discounts_upgrades Interesting...so towing your bike to Hermy's or Cutter's is reimbursed if you choose this option for $26 annually? Am I reading this right? Then all you have to do is deal with picking the bike up? -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From jaburke4 at verizon.net Tue Apr 6 21:09:08 2010 From: jaburke4 at verizon.net (John Burkhauser) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:09:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but why ?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've been practicing balancing when stopped. Figure that I'm too lazy to put my feet down. As long as I come to a complete and total stop I figure I am ok. From John A. Burkhauser On Apr 5, 2010, at 9:47 PM, "James A. Sterling" wrote: > OK just got to share this.. > > Bad day at work.. Coming home late, driving easy.. Not a good day > > Turned onto Naamans road.. Caught the first light.. Stopped and > waited; when > green drove on and caught the next light.. Did another full stop and > again > waited.. Turned green and continued for about 50 yards.. Then the > lights > and siren.. What ?? Pulled over, got paper work out, took off helmet.. > > County office comes up asks for all the paper, handed it to him and > asked ?? > Why ?? No answer, as he goes back to his car.. > > I sit there waiting and going over my driving in my mind for the > short time > I was in Delaware tonight... And I waited.. > > Second car pulls up.. First officer walks back to me with the paper > work and > his "book" .. Second officer walks up ?? He asks what is going > on ?? I ask, > again, "why was I stopped" ?? First office says "you did NOT put > your feet > down at either light when you stopped" > > I said ??? WHAAAT ??? A bit loud and with a real questioning tone ?? > > Second officer, who is a corporal , looks at first officer with a > "WTH" type > expression. > > I then said that I have read the DMV laws a couple of times, that I > have had > licenses in California, Georgia, Pa and Delaware and that I had > never seen > any laws or rules that mc operators needed to put their feet down ?? > > Second officer then says to the first officer "Ah lets go back here > for a > minute".. After a minute or two officer one, with my paper work, > comes to me > and says .. Sorry, Have a nice day. > > Ahh come on.. Now they are trying to make up laws ?? > > Jim (sitting on his bike without his feet down) > -- > Ride Safe > > '96 R1100RS Red of course > MOA 124289 > RA 31244 > AMA 808881 > > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From mrmevans at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 21:41:19 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:41:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Now that is some awesome German engineering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=RobaJKGMMiE > > -- What...no upside down? Wimp. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 21:55:09 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:55:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] towing insurance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Added Linda so she can answer and I will approve it in. On 4/6/10, Dan Dolby wrote: > > > > Linda Tanner had EXCELLENT experience with the KOA Roadside assistance > > plan. > > > > http://www.koa.com/rvroadhelp/ > > > > All she had was a penciled note on paper, with the policy number and > > the phone number when she had to use it. She had purchased it right > > before she left FL for CO for a IBA event. > > > The problem with this is: 'unlimited amount for towing to the nearest > service facility and/or on-site labor' That can mean the garage at the end > of the block. AAA Premium Plus tows 100 miles whether you pass a BMW > dealership or not. > > I've been towed by AAA with nothing but my driver's license. Called the 800 > number, they verify my status, boom. Linda was towed a LONG distance and she had a chance to chat with the tow truck operator, and dry out a bit from the DOWNPOUR she was in. She had the penciled member ship number on a peice of paper cause she was about two days in the system. How long had you been in AAA? Let let her fill in the details. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 22:39:37 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:39:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jim Ellenberg's Hotmail account has been HIJACKED again. :(:( Message-ID: I just got a note about getting an iPhone from some place purportedly from him. It HAS to be bogus. Hotmail is both a big target and it appears rather hackable. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From William.Rompala at kantarmedia.com Tue Apr 6 23:32:40 2010 From: William.Rompala at kantarmedia.com (William Rompala) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 19:32:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] towing insurance References: <4BBA5707.5060407@ptd.net><02f601cad58e$c4a4afc0$4dee0f40$@com><030201cad598$6139be80$23ad3b80$@com> <19093396808A4FA29813A3D4AF2E9DAC@dan736a7e1b29d> Message-ID: <91378982C2FC5F4982C0B2AD8454FDCDCF09F1@EXCHANGESTORE.TNSMI-EX1.Local> >>> Our BMW/MOA memberships also include various levels of towing services >>> as >>> well, right? >> I think that would be ironic if they offered it... > >>>> end > > Edde, > > Yep, and upon further investigation, my BMW/MOA membership DOES include > what's listed as "Prequalified Motorcycle Dispatch, i.e. Flatbed w/straps > or > cycle carrier" 24/7 up to 50 miles . . . but I do have the Platinum Cycle > Club upgrade good through 2014. While I don't remember the exact charge > for > this additional feature, I do remember thinking that the additional money > required to cover me through 2014 was very reasonable, so I anteed up. I've been a member of AAA for years and once began riding on two wheels, I contacted them regarding MC towing. It required that I upgrade to the AAA Plus RV plan, but it includes flat bed service to my choice of service station. Well worth it, as my first bike spent more time on the aforementioned flatbed truck than it did under me on the road. :) Regards Will -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100406/0ccf32ff/attachment.html From linda at customtankbags.com Tue Apr 6 23:23:59 2010 From: linda at customtankbags.com (LindaT) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] towing insurance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BBBC28F.2080903@customtankbags.com> All of that is true and is in my ride report on my website. It's under adventures and IBA National Meet 2006 day 9. I figure the tow was around 50-60 miles, but I don't really know. KOA/Allstate was very helpful on this occasion. They were considerably less helpful when I needed a local tow. They would have reimbursed me (or so they said) had I submitted a claim. I have no serious complaints about them. LindaT. www.CustomTankBags.com some bikes some memberships West Park, FL Brian Curry wrote: > Added Linda so she can answer and I will approve it in. > > On 4/6/10, Dan Dolby wrote: >> > Linda Tanner had EXCELLENT experience with the KOA Roadside assistance >> > plan. >> > >> > http://www.koa.com/rvroadhelp/ >> > >> > All she had was a penciled note on paper, with the policy number and >> > the phone number when she had to use it. She had purchased it right >> > before she left FL for CO for a IBA event. >> >> >> The problem with this is: 'unlimited amount for towing to the nearest >> service facility and/or on-site labor' That can mean the garage at the end >> of the block. AAA Premium Plus tows 100 miles whether you pass a BMW >> dealership or not. >> >> I've been towed by AAA with nothing but my driver's license. Called the 800 >> number, they verify my status, boom. > > Linda was towed a LONG distance and she had a chance to chat with the > tow truck operator, and dry out a bit from the DOWNPOUR she was in. > > She had the penciled member ship number on a peice of paper cause she > was about two days in the system. How long had you been in AAA? > > Let let her fill in the details. > From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 11:32:57 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 07:32:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Why Dick Has Been So Quiet... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:05 AM, edde m wrote: > Figures he's been up to penning an Op-Ed of sorts... > http://www.theonion.com/articles/us-government-to-save-billions-by-cutting-wasteful,17171/ > > > -- > edde m Get's my vote! 86ing both Partisan PA Senators would be an excellent strategy. BMW-Dick Life was simpler when Fiorello LaGuardia read the Sunday comics on the radio. From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 19:46:08 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:46:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RIDER DOWN on Saturday In-Reply-To: <577725537.7158341270483111425.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <577725537.7158341270483111425.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Riepe lost his teaching certificate. He failed the Mini-van CE course. On 4/5/10, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: >>If I were you, I'd sign up for the >>"Jack Riepe Guaranteed Motorcycle Training Course to Avoid the Mean >>Lean." This 3-day, $4500-course will tell you everything you need to >>know including the magic 35-mph ideal "no lean" speed, the art of >>making a 90? degree turn with both feet on the ground, and the >>ever-popular center-stand u-turn. > > Does this include the "Mini-van avoidance class" or is that extra? > > John Clauss > K1100RS > R75/6 > In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, > anonymously. - Jay Leno > > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Sent from my mobile device BMW-Dick Life was simpler when Fiorello LaGuardia read the Sunday comics on the radio. From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 20:07:32 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:07:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Healing Nicely In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's great news, Dave. Riepe once told me, "Slow and steady wins the race." I don't he believed it though. On 4/5/10, David Case wrote: > Fellow Pac'rs, > > I want to thank all of those who sent me well-wishes on a speedy > recovery. I can tell you, I am feeling quite good today. :) The leg > and shoulder are much better. No doubt I could ride the RS today, but > won't. I started the insurance claim process, and am trying to locate > the bike's whereabouts. I'll be picking it up via trailer this Sat. > (hopefully) > > I am truly counting my blessings! > > Ride safe out there gang. > > Dave Case > Lansdale, PA > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Sent from my mobile device BMW-Dick Life was simpler when Fiorello LaGuardia read the Sunday comics on the radio. From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 22:08:11 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:08:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Master Cylinder Rebuild In-Reply-To: <23A1AFCF9585406C9C363843A7F3E6BF@DROOS> References: <23A1AFCF9585406C9C363843A7F3E6BF@DROOS> Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Dave Roos wrote: > I would like some input regarding front master brake cylinder rebuild. > Call Tom Cutter. -- BMW-Dick Life was simpler when Fiorello LaGuardia read the Sunday comics on the radio. From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 11:49:59 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:49:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen tile is down In-Reply-To: <8CCA32E292D29D8-32A0-BC0F@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA32E292D29D8-32A0-BC0F@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Where did you get those workers? Congrats! They did a nice job! BMW-Dick On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Gary Christman wrote: > Now to grout! > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#828804084_UNMiP > > Gary Christman From rtill6 at aol.com Mon Apr 5 20:21:03 2010 From: rtill6 at aol.com (rtill6 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] FREE Message-ID: <8CCA314A6385839-1A28-EDE9@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> All I have a cargo cover for a '04 Jeep Grand Cherokee and ski racks from an '00 Subaru Outback that I want to give away. Anyone interested let me know. Gordon From rtill6 at aol.com Mon Apr 5 20:23:12 2010 From: rtill6 at aol.com (rtill6 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] new job Message-ID: <8CCA314F2E76410-1A28-EE56@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> All Tomorrow I start a new job at Valley Forge Harley-Davidson. Stop in and see. Gordon From daviddenesowicz at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 00:02:47 2010 From: daviddenesowicz at gmail.com (David Denesowicz) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:02:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] new job In-Reply-To: <8CCA314F2E76410-1A28-EE56@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA314F2E76410-1A28-EE56@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Head blacksmith? On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:23 PM, wrote: > All > > > Tomorrow I start a new job at Valley Forge Harley-Davidson. ?Stop in > and see. ? ?Gordon > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- David Denesowicz Box 212 Malvern, PA 19355 215-850-7061 daviddenesowicz at gmail.com '79 R100/7 "You have to go out, you don't have to come back" From rsorens at comcast.net Wed Apr 7 00:29:40 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:29:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Now that is some awesome German engineering In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=RobaJKGMMiE Looks more like a very skilled operator to me but the question remains: WHY? From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 00:48:07 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:48:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Now that is some awesome German engineering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/6/10, Rick Sorensen wrote: > >http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=RobaJKGMMiE > > > Looks more like a very skilled operator to me but the question remains: WHY? Showing off equipment capabilities. I still can't see how the Center of Gravity is above a contact point. Doesn't look like there is enough weigh in the right places. The operator DID have a LOT of confidence in the hydraulic hoses. A hose failure would have been BAD. I suspect that Roddy can tell us how exciting a hose failure can be! Liebherr did one on washing a car FAST using a "bucket of water" from a LARGE earth mover. The force of the falling water collapsed the car. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wateredg at interlog.com Wed Apr 7 00:57:01 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:57:01 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] new job References: <8CCA314F2E76410-1A28-EE56@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Hello folks, From: "David Denesowicz" >On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:23 PM, wrote: >> >> Tomorrow I start a new job at Valley Forge Harley-Davidson. Stop in >> and see. Gordon > > Head blacksmith? The following other positions come to mind... Oil mopper Showroom detailer HD-to-English Translator Bouncer (make sure no uncool people get in) Tassel straightener Genuine HD Apparel Fashion Consultant (what goes with black?) Attitude Adjuster Loud Pipe Fitter -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada PS: Don't tell anyone there are a couple of HD models I like. From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 01:06:55 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:06:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Those Boeing guys can REALLY build stuff!!! Message-ID: Picture of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner with the wings flexed to 150% of design loads. http://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834543b6069e20133ec503fbc970b-pi (WS) They did not fall off, but I suspect the folks inside would be a bit green under such flying conditions.. Or wonder how many feet below them their stomachs were feeling under those conditions. The test structure is pretty impressive too. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From 321design at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 01:09:48 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:09:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Now that is some awesome German engineering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > On 4/6/10, Rick Sorensen wrote: >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=RobaJKGMMiE >> >> >> Looks more like a very skilled operator to me but the question remains: WHY? > > Showing off equipment capabilities. > > I still can't see how the Center of Gravity is above a contact point. > Doesn't look like there is enough weigh in the right places. > At time 3:44 you can see the track / truck lock in allowing the machine to "hold on" in that cantilevered position with the C.G. hanging out. I'm impressed not only with the machine and operator, but the engineering of the structure. -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From 321design at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 01:34:14 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:34:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Those Boeing guys can REALLY build stuff!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > Picture of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner with the wings flexed to 150% of > design loads. > > http://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834543b6069e20133ec503fbc970b-pi > (WS) > > They did not fall off, but I suspect the folks inside would be a bit > green under such flying conditions.. ?Or wonder how many feet below > them their stomachs were feeling under those conditions. > > The test structure is pretty impressive too. Check this out - Boeing 787 wing break test video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA9Kato1CxA&NR=1 -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From jack.riepe at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 01:52:49 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:52:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] new job In-Reply-To: <8CCA314F2E76410-1A28-EE56@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA314F2E76410-1A28-EE56@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Congratulations... Good luck to you! -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Apr 7 02:06:35 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:06:35 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Now that is some awesome German engineering Message-ID: <4f730.28684cdb.38ed42ab@aol.com> In a message dated 4/6/2010 8:48:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bmwbrian at gmail.com writes: The operator DID have a LOT of confidence in the hydraulic hoses. A hose failure would have been BAD. I suspect that Roddy can tell us how exciting a hose failure can be! ====================================================== WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UNH!!!!!!!!!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100406/ffc80794/attachment.html From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Apr 7 03:12:53 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:12:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Those Boeing guys can REALLY build stuff!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4BBBBFF5.1988.CD30F0D@localhost> > Picture of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner with the wings flexed to 150% of > design loads. > > http://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834543b6069e20133ec503fbc9 > 70b-pi (WS) > > They did not fall off, but I suspect the folks inside would be a bit > green under such flying conditions.. Or wonder how many feet below > them their stomachs were feeling under those conditions. > > The test structure is pretty impressive too. > I like the test method. Weights, pulleys and ropes. Dead simple and 100% verifiable. You can't argue with it. Great stuff. Fly Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From jack.riepe at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 03:35:41 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:35:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] The Great Slider Ride Report... Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: I have not been well the past few weeks and passed a kidney stone the size of a wooden shoe. There was some contention that it was a wooden shoe and that I was being persecuted for my political beliefs. After a prolonged delay, I finally completed the details of the Second Annual Great Slider Ride. None of the embarrassing parts were left out. I take full responsibility. I tried to use as many photographs as possible, so that all of you would also be implicated if there is an official inquirey. The details may be found at: http://jackriepe.blogspot.com/2010/04/friday-march-19-night-before-second.html -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From ridebackroads at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 05:59:03 2010 From: ridebackroads at gmail.com (Carl Boler) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 01:59:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Magazine Solicitation for the battlefield Message-ID: Hello Guys and Gals, As the draw down continues we're still getting mortared from time to time. While this assignment is short for me my customer has been here since the fall. When this assignment ends I begin to prepare for another assignment elsewhere in the world. Lucky me. With that said, if anyone has any motorcycle magazines that you are going to discard me and the guys here would really appreciate the reading material. Kinda keeps us in touch with what's going on and day dreaming. Contact me via email and I'll provide my mailing address. Thanks, Carl on the battlefield of Iraq -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100407/4ffabf5b/attachment.html From ephoet at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 12:46:30 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:46:30 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Those Boeing guys can REALLY build stuff!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> Picture of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner with the wings flexed to 150% of >> design loads. >> >> http://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834543b6069e20133ec503fbc970b-pi >> >> They did not fall off, but I suspect the folks inside would be a bit >> green under such flying conditions.. ?Or wonder how many feet below >> them their stomachs were feeling under those conditions. >> The test structure is pretty impressive too. > Check this out - Boeing 787 wing break test video: > ?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA9Kato1CxA&NR=1 ----------------------------------------- The video is the initial stress testing done last year. There are some newer tests to verify some of the "fixes" installed as a result of the earlier testing. Tain't nobody gonna be happy if those wings don't stay in place! See also this note from this Mar 29, 2010 KOMO news in Seattle: http://www.komonews.com/news/boeing/89392307.html And the Seattle Times http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/boeingaerospace/2011468264_boeing29.html EPH ------------------------------------- 787 Wing Test Opens Aviation Week ; Space Technology 02/15/2010 Boeing has begun the 787?s wing test series that will lead to a so-called ultimate load , which puts the wing at stress levels 150% above normal. That test is always a key part of FAA certification but will be especially so for the787 because it is carrying commercial aviation?s first composite wing. The test also will help verify how well Boeing overcame earlier concerns about the strength of the wing?s side-of-body join (see p. 24). The 787?s 197-ft. composite wing span is notable because its tips are high even in 1g. During flight, they rise 10 ft. above this ?at rest? position. In the past, the program?s managers have joked about their wing being so flexible that its tips might touch above the fuselage before they broke in the ?iron bird? static test rig. In reality, Boeing will not want the wing to exceed the 150% certification margin by much because that will indicate they have ?overengineered? it, a sure sign the wing is heavier than it needs to be. From bmwdick at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 00:13:25 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:13:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] new job In-Reply-To: <8CCA314F2E76410-1A28-EE56@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA314F2E76410-1A28-EE56@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Congrats! Knock 'em dead, Gordon! On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:23 PM, wrote: > All > > > Tomorrow I start a new job at Valley Forge Harley-Davidson. ?Stop in > and see. ? ?Gordon > _______________________________________________ > -- BMW-Dick Life was simpler when Fiorello LaGuardia read the Sunday comics on the radio. From bmwdick at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 11:03:22 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:03:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Magazine Solicitation for the battlefield In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Carl: Where shall I send them? BMW-Dick On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Carl Boler wrote: > Hello Guys and Gals, > As the draw down continues we're still getting mortared from time to time. > While this assignment is short for me my customer has been here since the > fall. ?When this assignment ends I begin to prepare for another assignment > elsewhere in the world. ?Lucky me. > With that said, if anyone has any motorcycle magazines that you are going to > discard me and the guys here would really appreciate the reading material. > Kinda keeps us in touch with what's going on and day dreaming. ?Contact me > via email and I'll provide my mailing address. > > Thanks, > Carl on the battlefield of Iraq From bmwdick at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 12:15:42 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] The Great Slider Ride Report... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nice photos of the "Red Light Collectors Ride." -- BMW-Dick On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: > (SNIPPED) > From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Apr 7 14:16:14 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:16:14 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Magazine Solicitation for the battlefield In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29092.12.181.211.35.1270649774.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Carl, I have about 2 years of Mororcyclist and Cycleworld that would love a new home. Where can I send them? Read Safe, Joe > Carl: > Where shall I send them? > BMW-Dick > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Carl Boler > wrote: >> Hello Guys and Gals, >> As the draw down continues we're still getting mortared from time to >> time. >> While this assignment is short for me my customer has been here since >> the >> fall. ??When this assignment ends I begin to prepare for another >> assignment >> elsewhere in the world. ??Lucky me. >> With that said, if anyone has any motorcycle magazines that you are >> going to >> discard me and the guys here would really appreciate the reading >> material. >> Kinda keeps us in touch with what's going on and day dreaming. ??Contact >> me >> via email and I'll provide my mailing address. >> >> Thanks, >> Carl on the battlefield of Iraq > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From rcavalie at verizon.net Wed Apr 7 14:32:25 2010 From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:32:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] new job In-Reply-To: <8CCA314F2E76410-1A28-EE56@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA314F2E76410-1A28-EE56@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000b01cad65f$24c9e9d0$6e5dbd70$@net> Gordon, These days I'm so glad to hear of someone starting a new job instead of hearing about someone losing a job. Good luck at your new gig! Rick Cavaliere 2009 K1300GT 1985 K100RT -----Original Message----- From: mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com [mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com] On Behalf Of rtill6 at aol.com Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:23 PM To: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Subject: [MAC-PAC] new job All Tomorrow I start a new job at Valley Forge Harley-Davidson. Stop in and see. Gordon From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 15:22:11 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:22:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Another problem caused by deforestation Message-ID: One that is not immediately obvious. http://dogspired.com/fun/pictures/another-problem-caused-by-deforestation/ (WS) THNX Little Bob. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jack.riepe at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 21:22:45 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:22:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Those Boeing guys can REALLY build stuff!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How fast will the 787 fly with that blue frame built around it? -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From piechota at argolis.org Wed Apr 7 21:37:24 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:37:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Now THIS is a battery..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BBCFB14.40608@argolis.org> Brian Curry wrote: > Oh, and I do hope that no one EVER drops a wrench and does amateur > welding using the battery. EVER!!! > I't think the wrench would quickly vaporize, but the terminals are probably 20 ft apart too. :) From piechota at argolis.org Wed Apr 7 21:46:17 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:46:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Prepaid cell service just outsold "conventional" paymen cell service In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BBCFD29.70405@argolis.org> Brian Curry wrote: > The Dille's are leaders of the pack... > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20001793-266.html?tag=newsEditorsPicksArea.0 > (WS) > > "A study released by the New Millennium Research Council, a > Washington, D.C.-based think tank, last week said new prepaid wireless > customers exceeded the number of new contract subscribers that signed > up for service in the fourth quarter of 2009. This is the first time > that prepaid services have outsold post-paid or contract services, the > group said. > > New prepaid cell phone subscribers accounted for almost two-thirds of > all 4.2 million cell phone subscribers that U.S. carriers added in the > fourth quarter of 2009. The prepaid market grew 17 percent during the > quarter to 54.4 million subscribers, up from 46.3 million during the > same time a year ago. Meanwhile, contract-based cell phone > subscribership grew only 3 percent over the same period." Perhaps all the folks that want a traditional contract already have them, and the folks that are cycling between various pre-paid phones providers keep a higher rate of churn going. From gary5410 at aol.com Wed Apr 7 23:24:46 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:24:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Neighbor's R 1150 R for sale Message-ID: <8CCA4C0A548252F-1F94-2F25@webmail-m022.sysops.aol.com> My neighbor is selling his '03 R 1150 R 19K miles, yellow and blue. Has Sargent front seat, brand new rear tire (put on today), several wind screens, BMW tank bag, factory panniers and some kind of soft bag. Wants $5000, if no takers he will trade-in on a 2009 or 2010 Moto Guzzi Stelvio in the next couple weeks. I know his bike, bought 2nd hand from Hermy's, runs great! Anyone interested can email me or Craig. his email is cccp at ptd.net Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From willweir at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 23:44:56 2010 From: willweir at gmail.com (Will Weir) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 19:44:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Neighbor's R 1150 R for sale In-Reply-To: <8CCA4C0A548252F-1F94-2F25@webmail-m022.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA4C0A548252F-1F94-2F25@webmail-m022.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Gary Christman wrote: > > My neighbor is selling his '03 R 1150 R 19K miles, yellow and blue. Has > Sargent front seat, brand new rear tire (put on today), several wind > screens, BMW tank bag, factory panniers and some kind of soft bag. > Wants $5000, if no takers he will trade-in on a 2009 or 2010 Moto Guzzi > Stelvio in the next couple weeks. I know his bike, bought 2nd hand from > Hermy's, runs great! > Anyone interested can email me or Craig. his email is cccp at ptd.net > > Gary Christman > '07 R 1200 GS Adventure > Looks like a pretty good deal. If he was patient I bet he could get even more for it. But I understand the enticement of getting a new toy... From gary5410 at aol.com Thu Apr 8 00:00:22 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:00:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen grouted Message-ID: <8CCA4C59E84D432-1F94-3444@webmail-m022.sysops.aol.com> http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#830595818_LHgpA Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From rcavalie at verizon.net Thu Apr 8 00:45:49 2010 From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:45:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Looking for Clockworks Jay Message-ID: <002401cad6b4$d5ef0830$81cd1890$@net> Looking for clockworks Jay who told me about Cal Sci windshields at Gassing Day. Jay, please ping me off list, I have a question. Thanks. Rick Cavaliere From jasiii at earthlink.net Thu Apr 8 01:00:35 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:00:35 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen grouted Message-ID: <18773218.1270688435413.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > >http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#830595818_LHgpA > >Gary Christman One word... WOW Sweet job.. Jim James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From gary5410 at aol.com Thu Apr 8 01:13:33 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:13:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen grouted In-Reply-To: <18773218.1270688435413.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <18773218.1270688435413.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8CCA4CFD7640887-1F94-3F73@webmail-m022.sysops.aol.com> Thanks.....it's not perfect, but overall I'm happy......and learning a lot! Gary -----Original Message----- From: Jim Sterling > >http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#830595818_ LHgpA > >Gary Christman One word... WOW Sweet job.. Jim James Sterling III From jasiii at earthlink.net Thu Apr 8 01:21:43 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:21:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] new job In-Reply-To: <8CCA314F2E76410-1A28-EE56@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: > > Tomorrow I start a new job at Valley Forge Harley-Davidson. Stop in > and see. Gordon Congratulation .. Hope you enjoy every day and every test ride Jim -- Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 01:37:33 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:37:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] "because I am not dead yet"' Message-ID: Well written on "keeping on" by a motorcyclist in the PNW http://blog.seattlepi.com/jacklewis/archives/200857.asp Hardheaded to the end Middle age is a pain in the butt. This is not a figure of speech. Roll over wrong, sit up sideways just once, and pain stabs across the back of my pelvis, shoots across my rear end. The "owies" squinch through my left hip and flame all the way down to my knees and sometimes into my feet. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From chrisjac at ptd.net Thu Apr 8 01:40:42 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:40:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen grouted In-Reply-To: <8CCA4CFD7640887-1F94-3F73@webmail-m022.sysops.aol.com> References: <18773218.1270688435413.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <8CCA4CFD7640887-1F94-3F73@webmail-m022.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BBD341A.1020003@ptd.net> Having tiled my basement and downstairs bath during the winter of 2008 with some help from Melinda, I (we) know what you have gone through. Looks to be a nice job. You shall appreciate that kitchen every time you walk on it. Save an extra box of tiles and bag of grout in case of damage. Kudos to you and the Mrs. and enjoy! Chris Jaccarino Gary Christman wrote: > Thanks.....it's not perfect, but overall I'm happy......and learning a > lot! > Gary > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Sterling > > > > >> http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#830595818_ >> > LHgpA > >> Gary Christman >> > > One word... WOW > > Sweet job.. > > Jim > > James Sterling III > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > > From bmwbrian at voicenet.com Thu Apr 8 01:47:10 2010 From: bmwbrian at voicenet.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:47:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] It's all in the cheese.... Message-ID: The customer in the Italian restaurant was so pleased with his meal that he asked to speak to the chef. The owner proudly led him into the kitchen and introduced him to the chef. "Your veal parmigiana is truly superb," the customer said. "I just spent a month in Italy, and yours is better than any I ever had over there!" "Naturally!" the chef said. "Over there, they use domestic cheese. Ours is imported!" Bada Bump.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From Doug at pencader.com Thu Apr 8 01:51:49 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:51:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen grouted In-Reply-To: <8CCA4C59E84D432-1F94-3444@webmail-m022.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA4C59E84D432-1F94-3444@webmail-m022.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <047201cad6be$0fb179a0$2f146ce0$@com> Gary wrote; >>> snips > Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen grouted > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#830595818_LHgp A >>> end Gary, Wow, fantastic - wrap it up, I'll take it! Super effort, superb results. Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From motoedde2 at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 02:44:38 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 22:44:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Protest Photos from Kyrgystan Message-ID: This is out of control and will impact the US war in Afghanistan. http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/04/07/world/0407-KYRGYSZTAN_index.html -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Apr 8 03:02:42 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:02:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen grouted In-Reply-To: <8CCA4C59E84D432-1F94-3444@webmail-m022.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BBD0F12.29918.11F015C8@localhost> > > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#83059581 > 8_LHgpA > Looks great!. My back hurts just looking at it. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 03:03:45 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:03:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Protest Photos from Kyrgystan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/7/10, edde m wrote: > This is out of control and will impact the US war in Afghanistan. > http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/04/07/world/0407-KYRGYSZTAN_index.html Video: http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/video-of-protests-in-kyrgyzstan/ If this is the second time in 5 years, then any US bases have gone through at least one transition. Tajikistan is the one that is kicking out of the base that has been a supply point to Northern Afghanistan I thought. Kyrgyzstan looks kinda far from Afghanistan. Or are there connections I have no clue about. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motoedde2 at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 03:09:45 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:09:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Protest Photos from Kyrgystan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > On 4/7/10, edde m wrote: >> This is out of control and will impact the US war in Afghanistan. >> ?http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/04/07/world/0407-KYRGYSZTAN_index.html > > Video: > http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/video-of-protests-in-kyrgyzstan/ > > If this is the second time in 5 years, then any US bases have gone > through at least one transition. > > Tajikistan is the one that is kicking out of the base that has been a > supply point to Northern Afghanistan I thought. > > Kyrgyzstan looks kinda far from Afghanistan. ?Or are there connections > I have no clue about. There are two...Manas is the big one. http://www.cfr.org/publication/8440/ Any why it matters... http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2010/0407/Kyrgyzstan-protests-threaten-Afghanistan-war-s-premier-air-hub -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 03:32:26 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:32:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Protest Photos from Kyrgystan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/7/10, edde m wrote: > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > > On 4/7/10, edde m wrote: > > Kyrgyzstan looks kinda far from Afghanistan. Or are there connections > > I have no clue about. > > > There are two...Manas is the big one. > http://www.cfr.org/publication/8440/ > > Any why it matters... > http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2010/0407/Kyrgyzstan-protests-threaten-Afghanistan-war-s-premier-air-hub Yes, the name Manas resonates. I was not sure which of the 'stans it was in. The air routing to it must be "interesting" as I suspect they do not travel over Russian or Chinese airspace. It is a transit point. Part of the "stomach" an army travels on. It always gets icky when "our guy" gets tossed. Plus the question was he tossed by internal or externally fomented agitation. (Which occurs on all sides.) They are next to Kazakhstan where the Russian's did most of their nuke testing and an EMP test that had the most effect. A lot more than the one that we did that blacked out Hawaii. I suspect that Kyrgyzstan has its "hot spots" from the Russian nuke testing though. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motoedde2 at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 12:14:18 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:14:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Protest Photos from Kyrgystan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > Yes, the name Manas resonates. ?I was not sure which of the 'stans it > was in. ?The air routing to it must be "interesting" as I suspect they > do not travel over Russian or Chinese airspace. > > It is a transit point. ?Part of the "stomach" an army travels on. Kyrgyzstan is not exactly a land blessed with natural resources compared to its neighbors(Kazakhstan/China/Uzbek) or rich in history(Uzbek) as major hub on the silk route due to its geographic location. What the can offer is an air hub...and get $$/Rubles for it... > > It always gets icky when "our guy" gets tossed. ?Plus the question was > he tossed by internal or externally fomented agitation. ?(Which occurs > on all sides.) Yeah like the shah who the US put in place by actually overthrowing a democratically elected leader in Iran back in the 60s so Western Oil Companies can have favorable contract terms? > > They are next to Kazakhstan where the Russian's did most of their nuke > testing and an EMP test that had the most effect. ?A lot more than the > one that we did that blacked out Hawaii. ?I suspect that Kyrgyzstan > has its "hot spots" from the Russian nuke testing though. I'm not convinced much nuke testing could happen in Kyrgyzstan...due to its mountainous topography compared to Semey in Kazakh. I'll still never forget the disfigured faces of the population in that area. I couldn't stomach the visual atrocity and left as quick as I could. A very sad part of human history...and the same happened in Nevada and the deserts of Algeria by the French. -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 12:38:29 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:38:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Those Boeing guys can REALLY build stuff!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Jack Riepe wrote: > How fast will the 787 fly with that blue frame built around it? > Fondest regards, > Jack Only half, Jack. Only half. Erik H From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 12:50:43 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:50:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Looking for Clockworks Jay In-Reply-To: <002401cad6b4$d5ef0830$81cd1890$@net> References: <002401cad6b4$d5ef0830$81cd1890$@net> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Richard A. Cavaliere wrote: Looking for clockworks Jay who told me about Cal Sci windshields at Gassing Day. Jay, please ping me off list, I have a question. Thanks. Rick Cavaliere That might be this Cal Sci? http://www.calsci.com/ He's got a great MC info site too http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/ http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Fairing.html EPH From gary5410 at aol.com Thu Apr 8 12:53:41 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 08:53:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT A billion Message-ID: <8CCA531A69B50F0-3834-1A31@Webmail-m125.sysops.aol.com> This is too true to be funny. The next time you hear a politician use the Word 'billion' in a casual manner, think about Whether you want the 'politicians' spending YOUR tax money. A billion is a difficult number to comprehend, But one advertising agency did a good job of Putting that figure into some perspective in One of it's releases. A. A billion seconds ago it was 1959. B. A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive. C. A billion hours ago our ancestors were Living in the Stone Age. D. A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth on two feet. E. A billion dollars ago was only 8 hours and 20 minutes, At the rate our government Is spending it. While this thought is still fresh in our brain... let's take a look at New Orleans ... It's amazing what you can learn with some simple division. Louisiana Senator, Mary Landrieu (D) Is presently askingCongressfor 250 BILLION DOLLARS To rebuild New Orleans . Interesting number... What does it mean? A. Well .. If you are one of the 484,674 residents of New Orleans (every man, woman, and child) You each get $516,528. B. Or... If you have one of the 188,251 homes in New Orleans , your home gets$1,329,787. C. Or... If you are a family of four... Your family gets $2,066,012. Washington , D.C HELLO! Are all your calculators broken?? Building Permit Tax CDL License Tax Cigarette Tax Corporate Income Tax Dog License Tax Federal Income Tax (Fed) Federal Unemployment Tax (FU TA) Fishing License Tax Food License Tax Fuel Permit Tax Gasoline Tax Hunting License Tax Inheritance Tax Inventory Tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax) IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax) Liquor Tax Luxury Tax Marriage License Tax Medicare Tax Property Tax Real Estate Tax Service charge taxes Social Security Tax Road Usage Tax (Truckers) Sales Taxes Recreational Vehicle Tax School Tax State Income Tax State Unemployment Tax (SUTA) Telephone Federal Excise Tax Telephone FederalUniversal Service Fee Tax Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Tax Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax Telephone State and Local Tax Telephone Usage ChargeTax Utility Tax Vehicle License Registration T ax Vehicle Sales Tax Watercraft Registration Tax Well Permit Tax Workers Compensation Tax (And to think, we left British Rule to avoid so many taxes) STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago.... And our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt... We had the largest middle class in the world... And Mom stayed home to raise the kids. What happened? Can you spell 'politicians!' And I still have to Press '1' For English. What the heck happened????? From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 13:13:32 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:13:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] google search hints Message-ID: >From your friends at the NYT http://www.nytimes.com/external/gigaom/2010/04/02/02gigaom-10-simple-google-search-tricks-58674.html?src=me&ref=general From wateredg at interlog.com Thu Apr 8 13:21:09 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:21:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT A billion References: <8CCA531A69B50F0-3834-1A31@Webmail-m125.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Hello Gary, From: "Gary Christman" [huge snip] > What happened? > Can you spell 'politicians!' [...] When I hear folks blaming politicians or others for their woes, I sometimes feel compelled to remind them of a fundamental premise of Democracy: The People know what they want, and they deserve it, hard and fast. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From motoedde2 at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 13:37:05 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:37:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT A billion In-Reply-To: References: <8CCA531A69B50F0-3834-1A31@Webmail-m125.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Steve Makohin wrote: > Hello Gary, > > From: "Gary Christman" > > [huge snip] >> What happened? >> Can you spell 'politicians!' > [...] > > When I hear folks blaming politicians or others for their woes, I sometimes > feel compelled to remind them of a fundamental premise of Democracy: The > People know what they want, and they deserve it, hard and fast. Even worse than that is the following... If we believe in democracy, we have to admit that the fallibility of our politicians are representative of their constituency. And considering the durability and success of our democracy(despite its imperfections) its the most representative that's existed. The change we need to seek is not expecting government to change...but a cultural change that frowns upon such living on credit/debt. Its the crack of the affluent and somehow its not criminalized...its extolled. And that is our fault. -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Apr 8 14:15:34 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:15:34 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] google search hints In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55792.12.181.211.35.1270736134.squirrel@12.181.211.35> >>From your friends at the NYT > > http://www.nytimes.com/external/gigaom/2010/04/02/02gigaom-10-simple-google-search-tricks-58674.html?src=me&ref=general Erik, That is a cool list. I knew most of them, but I had not seen them put in a handy spot. Ride Safe, Joe From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 14:24:40 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:24:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Protest Photos from Kyrgystan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/8/10, edde m wrote: > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Brian Curry > couldn't stomach the visual atrocity and left as quick as I could. A > very sad part of human history...and the same happened in Nevada and > the deserts of Algeria by the French. Reallly????? I suggest doing some history research. Saint George UT was hit once due to a weather issue. Rochester NY got hit another time, not as bad. Neither of them are known for people being that ugly others's flee. There concerns and thinking about fall out issues from the Trinity test onwards. If you want to get spooked find out the power of US Nevada test shots versus the Hiroshima or Nagasaki detonations. A lot of them were a few kilotons. Now think of weapons that are in the megatonage range. Spooky. What the French did in Algeria no clue. >From an engineering POV some of the stuff done with the underground test shots is amazing. Weapons of war are always "interesting" as people seek ways to make others dead. You can get really scared about chemical or biological weapons. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From tpcutter at aol.com Thu Apr 8 15:06:15 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 11:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Protest Photos from Kyrgystan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCA5442B902686-1AD8-3927@webmail-m023.sysops.aol.com> <> No, I get more scared thinking about the sociopaths who can design those things and discuss them dispassionately as if they are contemplating improving a toaster. We are, by and large, sentient and moral beings. The concept of visiting mass murder upon unknown populations of living beings SHOULD evoke horror in our hearts. That some people lack that morality is truly disheartening. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 15:56:17 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:56:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Protest Photos from Kyrgystan In-Reply-To: <8CCA5442B902686-1AD8-3927@webmail-m023.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA5442B902686-1AD8-3927@webmail-m023.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 4/8/10, Tom Cutter wrote: > < others dead. > > You can get really scared about chemical or biological weapons.>> > > No, I get more scared thinking about the sociopaths who can design those > things and discuss them dispassionately as if they are contemplating > improving a toaster. > > We are, by and large, sentient and moral beings. The concept of visiting > mass murder upon unknown populations of living beings SHOULD evoke horror in > our hearts. That some people lack that morality is truly disheartening. True. However, that does not prevent me from realizing there are others out there that believe that it is "OK". What to do if their OK goes to action, is a whole nother problem. Or how to keep them convinced that it is not OK. They are not simple problems nor do they have simple answers. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Thu Apr 8 16:29:29 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Protest Photos from Kyrgystan In-Reply-To: <1951520351.8613871270743909735.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1653174595.8616471270744169937.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > No, I get more scared thinking about the sociopaths who can design those > things and discuss them dispassionately as if they are contemplating > improving a toaster. > > We are, by and large, sentient and moral beings. The concept of visiting > mass murder upon unknown populations of living beings SHOULD evoke horror in > our hearts. That some people lack that morality is truly disheartening. It has always struck me as hypocritical that the US stands up and says "They should not have nuclear weapons!" (Insert North Korea, Cuba, China, India, Iran, Iraq, or basically another non-European friend here for the word They) When we have been the only country to actually use one of these weapons in war. Yes, I know the justifications and rationals, and I am NOT saying what we did was wrong. I just do not see how in the world we can judge others. But that is what Americans seem to do best. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From chrisjac at ptd.net Thu Apr 8 18:42:07 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 14:42:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT A billion In-Reply-To: References: <8CCA531A69B50F0-3834-1A31@Webmail-m125.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BBE237F.4050005@ptd.net> edde m wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Steve Makohin wrote: > >> Hello Gary, >> >> From: "Gary Christman" >> >> [huge snip] >> >>> What happened? >>> Can you spell 'politicians!' >>> >> [...] >> >> When I hear folks blaming politicians or others for their woes, I sometimes >> feel compelled to remind them of a fundamental premise of Democracy: The >> People know what they want, and they deserve it, hard and fast. >> > > > Even worse than that is the following... > > If we believe in democracy, we have to admit that the fallibility of > our politicians are representative of their constituency. And > considering the durability and success of our democracy(despite its > imperfections) its the most representative that's existed. > Success? Our democracy is a success? Please define success? > The change we need to seek is not expecting government to change...but > a cultural change that frowns upon such living on credit/debt. BINGO. Since we have so much debt, debt which will never be repaid unless quantitative easing (printing money) continues/grows at faster and faster rates, the democracy, in my opinion, has failed. It failed once the debt got so big that it is impossible to repay it. Chris Jaccarino From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 19:06:26 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:06:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT A billion In-Reply-To: <4BBE237F.4050005@ptd.net> References: <8CCA531A69B50F0-3834-1A31@Webmail-m125.sysops.aol.com> <4BBE237F.4050005@ptd.net> Message-ID: On 4/8/10, Chris wrote: > > If we believe in democracy, we have to admit that the fallibility of > > our politicians are representative of their constituency. And > > considering the durability and success of our democracy(despite its > > imperfections) its the most representative that's existed. > > Success? Our democracy is a success? Please define success? > > > The change we need to seek is not expecting government to change...but > > a cultural change that frowns upon such living on credit/debt. > > > BINGO. Since we have so much debt, debt which will never be repaid > unless quantitative easing (printing money) continues/grows at faster > and faster rates, the democracy, in my opinion, has failed. It failed > once the debt got so big that it is impossible to repay it. What "democracy". The US is a Republic which is supposed to be a representative democracy. Unfortunately the representatives, or at lest the current crop, are not that good. I keep being concerned about a "waking up". Could be VERY unpretty. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From chrisjac at ptd.net Thu Apr 8 19:14:03 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:14:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT A billion In-Reply-To: References: <8CCA531A69B50F0-3834-1A31@Webmail-m125.sysops.aol.com> <4BBE237F.4050005@ptd.net> Message-ID: <4BBE2AFB.2080104@ptd.net> Brian Curry wrote: > On 4/8/10, Chris wrote: > >> > If we believe in democracy, we have to admit that the fallibility of >> > our politicians are representative of their constituency. And >> > considering the durability and success of our democracy(despite its >> > imperfections) its the most representative that's existed. >> >> Success? Our democracy is a success? Please define success? >> >> > The change we need to seek is not expecting government to change...but >> > a cultural change that frowns upon such living on credit/debt. >> >> >> BINGO. Since we have so much debt, debt which will never be repaid >> unless quantitative easing (printing money) continues/grows at faster >> and faster rates, the democracy, in my opinion, has failed. It failed >> once the debt got so big that it is impossible to repay it. >> > > What "democracy". The US is a Republic which is supposed to be a > representative democracy. > > Unfortunately the representatives, or at lest the current crop, are > not that good. > > I keep being concerned about a "waking up". Could be VERY unpretty. > > > You only have to worry when food supplies run short. History tells you that rulers should NEVER starve the masses. As long as food remains plentiful, I dont think you will see a "waking up". Chris Jaccarino From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 19:19:22 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:19:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hybrid water heaters (yes its OT if you must know) Message-ID: Anyone seen these new "hybrid" water heaters? Combination of an air to air heat pump with a electric water heater. Pulls the heat out of your basement air. GE and Rheem offer them, about 2x as efficient as a standard heater (2.14 - 2.34 Heat factor) http://products.geappliances.com/ApplProducts/Dispatcher?REQUEST=SpecPage&Sku=GEH50DNSRSA http://www.rheem.com/Products/tank_water_heaters/hpwh/ Looks like about 1600 bucks, but you should be able to get both a federal tax credit and a local utility rebate, which should make the investment pay off pretty fast. I'm considering adding one to my system, which has just a standard (all plastic) electric water heater. The hybrid would feed hot water to the older standard heater, essentially making it a storage unit that only has to keep itself warm. The new one comes in a 50 gal only size, my existing heater is 85 gal and super insulated. Then I could afford to wash my bike with warm water! (Obligatory M/C Content) EPH From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 19:22:02 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:22:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT A billion In-Reply-To: <4BBE2AFB.2080104@ptd.net> References: <8CCA531A69B50F0-3834-1A31@Webmail-m125.sysops.aol.com> <4BBE237F.4050005@ptd.net> <4BBE2AFB.2080104@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Chris wrote: > > > You only have to worry when food supplies run short. ?History tells you > that ?rulers should NEVER starve the masses. ?As long as food remains > plentiful, I dont think you will see a "waking up". > > > Chris Jaccarino > _______________________________________________ Apparently a doubling of the electric utility rate works just as well. At least in Kyrgyzstan Now what were we saying about PA electric deregulation and its effect on rates? EPH From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Apr 8 19:26:26 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:26:26 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW S1000rr at the isle of man Message-ID: <22706.12.181.211.35.1270754786.squirrel@12.181.211.35> This looks like the perfect setting for all that bacon saving technology. http://www.bmwmoa.org/news/racing_stories/bmw_s1000rr_at_the_isle_of_man Ride Safe, Joe From 440props at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 20:01:09 2010 From: 440props at gmail.com (Robert Atkinson) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:01:09 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Protest Photos from Kyrgystan In-Reply-To: <1653174595.8616471270744169937.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1653174595.8616471270744169937.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Apr 8, 2010, at 11:29 AM, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > Yes, I know the justifications and rationals, and I am NOT saying what > we did was wrong. I just do not see how in the world we can judge > others. But that is what Americans seem to do best. MHO: 1. The atomic bomb brought an end to the war. YMMV! 2. The opposite of nuclear war is conventional war, not peace. IMHO! 3. I don't know how the 3rd world war will be fought, but the 4th world war will be with sticks & stones. - A. Einstein -- CHEERS, RSA Want to drop precision munitions on me now? I am right here: N48? 12.487' W122? 03.590' From david.hardgrove at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 23:24:50 2010 From: david.hardgrove at gmail.com (David Hardgrove) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:24:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] mc trailer or pick up truck ramps Message-ID: I need to get a 1999 F650 to Hermy's, not running. Does anyone have a trailer I can use, or a set of ramps and some good tie downs to get the bike into the back of my F-150? Help with the loading and the tie downs would be appreciated. Friday or Saturday help appreciated. David From tpcutter at aol.com Fri Apr 9 00:12:45 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:12:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT A billion In-Reply-To: <4BBE237F.4050005@ptd.net> References: <8CCA531A69B50F0-3834-1A31@Webmail-m125.sysops.aol.com> <4BBE237F.4050005@ptd.net> Message-ID: <8CCA59083C0029A-1590-B0FC@webmail-m004.sysops.aol.com> <> The core of democracy is liberty, not money. Like the freedom you enjoy to say that your government has failed. Most of the world's populace no longer have that liberty. We take it totally for granted and we elect morons who don't even know how to spell liberty without a dollar sign. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From Doug at pencader.com Fri Apr 9 00:17:46 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:17:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] mc trailer or pick up truck ramps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <050f01cad77a$16f13950$44d3abf0$@com> David wrote; >>> snips > Subject: [MAC-PAC] mc trailer or pick up truck ramps > I need to get a 1999 F650 to Hermy's, not running. Does anyone have a > trailer I can use, or a set of ramps and some good tie downs to get > the bike into the back of my F-150? Help with the loading and the tie > downs would be appreciated. >>> end David, I've got a good set of ramps I'd be glad to let you use . . . I have plenty of tie-downs, too. I'm down in Newark, DE, but I'll bring 'em to you wherever you are if you need 'em. Let me know, Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Apr 9 00:16:13 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:16:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jtan is a biker Message-ID: <4BBE398D.12936.167E0734@localhost> As most of you know the mac-pac list is hosted at a small ISP in Sellersville called Jtan. The dude that runs it is Chris Nadovich and he is a good egg. One of my routes home brings me up Diamond street and past the Jtan world headquarters (aka Chris' house). This is the center of the mac- pac universe, or at least where all the bits come from. Every time I go by I look over to see what is going on. For the first time I saw Chris out and about so I waved to him on the tractor, and he waved back. I figured he did not know who I was as the last time I saw him was before the mac-pac started, so I shot him an e-mail to say hi. This led me to his website: Turns out he is a biker. The 2-stroke kind. Last summer he road across the us. Simply amazing. http://transamerica.nadovich.com/ It is a very cool blog. The best quote: "The bikes and gear are all packed and shipped to our host out west, Gary's buddy Mike in Portland. Oddly, it cost more to ship my bike UPS ground than it will cost to ship my body on Southwest Airlines. Not sure why. Maybe it's that UPS insures delivery. Southwest does not. " Anywho, I invited Chris to breakfast on the 18th, and he accepted. If the weather is OK we will ride out. NB: Jack, he knows how to program all the go-go bars into a GPS. You may want to talk to this guy. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From pasegc at gmail.com Fri Apr 9 01:06:53 2010 From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:06:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hybrid water heaters (yes its OT if you must know) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Erik Hoet wrote: > Anyone seen these new "hybrid" water heaters? ?Combination of an air > to air heat pump with a electric water heater. ? Pulls the heat out of > your basement air. > I'm in the middle of purchasing one of the GE units for my son. Please also note that you can get a refund from the state of PA in the amount of $200 plus the $650 tax credit. Check the following site. www.recovery.pa.gov. Note that you can not apply before April 21st. Anything completed prior will disqualify you so be careful. Becareful with the price also. While the paper work from GE has an MSRP of $1600.00 you will charged freight and the quoted price I have received is $1799.00 plus installation from Martin Water Conditioning in Brownstown, PA. Better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick I also need a water conditioning system because the house is on a well and the nitrates are above legal limits and my daughter in law is pregnant, so water quality is currently very important. Gerry Cavanaugh Coatesville, PA From Ducdude at verizon.net Fri Apr 9 01:15:39 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:15:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] mc trailer or pick up truck ramps References: Message-ID: <4672053656B246FC8D54A091226BF6A4@heilveil5e3fdd> Dave where are you located??? Duc ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hardgrove" To: "mac-Pac" Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: [MAC-PAC] mc trailer or pick up truck ramps >I need to get a 1999 F650 to Hermy's, not running. Does anyone have a > trailer I can use, or a set of ramps and some good tie downs to get > the bike into the back of my F-150? Help with the loading and the tie > downs would be appreciated. > > Friday or Saturday help appreciated. > > David > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From jweiss11 at comcast.net Fri Apr 9 01:19:42 2010 From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:19:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] mc trailer or pick up truck ramps In-Reply-To: <050f01cad77a$16f13950$44d3abf0$@com> References: <050f01cad77a$16f13950$44d3abf0$@com> Message-ID: > I need to get a 1999 F650 to Hermy's, not running. Does anyone have a > trailer I can use, or a set of ramps and some good tie downs to get > the bike into the back of my F-150? Help with the loading and the tie > downs would be appreciated. >>> end I've got a good set of ramps I'd be glad to let you use . . . I have plenty of tie-downs, too. I'm down in Newark, DE, but I'll bring 'em to you wherever you are if you need 'em. Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I also have a ramp and tie downs in Cheltenham if that is any closer for you. Jack Weiss From jasiii at earthlink.net Fri Apr 9 01:22:58 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:22:58 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] mc trailer or pick up truck ramps Message-ID: <18217705.1270776179104.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > >> I need to get a 1999 F650 to Hermy's, not running. Does anyone have a >> trailer I can use, or a set of ramps and some good tie downs to get >> the bike into the back of my F-150? Help with the loading and the tie >> downs would be appreciated. > >I've got a good set of ramps I'd be glad to let you use . . . I have plenty >of tie-downs, too. > >I'm down in Newark, DE, but I'll bring 'em to you wherever you are if you >need 'em. >Doug >'01 1150 GSP >Bear, DE > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >I also have a ramp and tie downs in Cheltenham if that is any closer for >you. > >Jack Weiss > I have a ramp and tie downs also .. where are you (grin) Claymont De and free on Friday if needed Jim James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From daviddenesowicz at gmail.com Fri Apr 9 02:17:58 2010 From: daviddenesowicz at gmail.com (David Denesowicz) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:17:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] new job In-Reply-To: References: <8CCA314F2E76410-1A28-EE56@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Best of luck, they are good folks there, I test rode a V-Rod from them and also picked up my now-collectible free Buell messenger bag from them....errr might they still have some of the Buell bags around? On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:21 PM, James A. Sterling wrote: >> >> Tomorrow I start a new job at Valley Forge Harley-Davidson. ?Stop in >> and see. ? ?Gordon > > Congratulation .. Hope you enjoy every day and every test ride > > Jim > -- > Ride Safe > > '96 R1100RS Red of course > MOA 124289 > RA ?31244 > AMA 808881 > > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- David Denesowicz Box 212 Malvern, PA 19355 215-850-7061 daviddenesowicz at gmail.com '79 R100/7 "You have to go out, you don't have to come back" From Braveirwin at aol.com Fri Apr 9 03:10:38 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 23:10:38 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Trike with a nice headrest!!! Message-ID: <7f448.3f1f9376.38eff4ae@aol.com> In a message dated 4/6/2010 11:52:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bmwbrian at gmail.com writes: http://www.trackshare.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=64891&d=12693516 79 (WS) Rather pillowy. Oh, and it is not a Harley trike. It is a REAL farmer's trike. I like the exhausts too. ================================================= This is good. Did anyone but me notice that the gas tank is an old belly slung milking machine bucket? Roddy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I wouldn't mind hearing the story of how original MacPacr's stumbled across jtan, as the most suitable host for these ethereal communications. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Apr 9 03:33:14 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 23:33:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Trike with a nice headrest!!! In-Reply-To: <7f448.3f1f9376.38eff4ae@aol.com> Message-ID: <4BBE67BA.2132.173264D3@localhost> > > > In a message dated 4/6/2010 11:52:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > bmwbrian at gmail.com writes: > > http://www.trackshare.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=64891&d=12 > 693516 79 (WS) > > Rather pillowy. Oh, and it is not a Harley trike. It is a REAL > farmer's trike. I like the exhausts too. > ================================================= This is good. Did > anyone but me notice that the gas tank is an old belly slung milking > machine bucket? Roddy > Yes indeed. Good pickup. Lot's of milk jugs... Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmwdick at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 14:00:45 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:00:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT A billion In-Reply-To: References: <8CCA531A69B50F0-3834-1A31@Webmail-m125.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:37 AM, edde m wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Steve Makohin > wrote: > > Hello Gary, > > > > From: "Gary Christman" > > > > [huge snip] > >> What happened? > >> Can you spell 'politicians!' > > [...] > > > > When I hear folks blaming politicians or others for their woes, I > sometimes > > feel compelled to remind them of a fundamental premise of Democracy: The > > People know what they want, and they deserve it, hard and fast. > > > Even worse than that is the following... > > If we believe in democracy, we have to admit that the fallibility of > our politicians are representative of their constituency. And > considering the durability and success of our democracy(despite its > imperfections) its the most representative that's existed. > > The change we need to seek is not expecting government to change...but > a cultural change that frowns upon such living on credit/debt. Its > the crack of the affluent and somehow its not criminalized...its > extolled. And that is our fault. > > Edde: I'm afraid America is learning this lesson "the hard way" as we watch our resilient democrasy being morphed into a state that creates even greater issues of dependency on a centralized government, nationalized industries, and huge intergenerational debt. -- BMW-Dick Life was simpler when Fiorello LaGuardia read the Sunday comics on the radio, and the future was always rosy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100408/987233f2/attachment.html From bmwdick at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 16:38:06 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:38:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Protest Photos from Kyrgystan In-Reply-To: <1653174595.8616471270744169937.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1951520351.8613871270743909735.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1653174595.8616471270744169937.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: It's called free thought. It may not always be correct, since it's subject to fallable human errors; sometimes they're whoppers! Nevertheless free thought is A right in a free society. Don't fret though, Washington is on a path to legislate that away, toom On 4/8/10, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > >> No, I get more scared thinking about the sociopaths who can design those >> things and discuss them dispassionately as if they are contemplating >> improving a toaster. >> >> We are, by and large, sentient and moral beings. The concept of visiting >> mass murder upon unknown populations of living beings SHOULD evoke horror >> in >> our hearts. That some people lack that morality is truly disheartening. > > It has always struck me as hypocritical that the US stands up and says "They > should not have nuclear weapons!" (Insert North Korea, Cuba, China, India, > Iran, Iraq, or basically another non-European friend here for the word They) > When we have been the only country to actually use one of these weapons in > war. > > Yes, I know the justifications and rationals, and I am NOT saying what we > did was wrong. I just do not see how in the world we can judge others. But > that is what Americans seem to do best. > > John Clauss > K1100RS > R75/6 > In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, > anonymously. - Jay Leno > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Sent from my mobile device BMW-Dick Life was simpler when Fiorello LaGuardia read the Sunday comics on the radio. From rtill6 at aol.com Fri Apr 9 03:05:55 2010 From: rtill6 at aol.com (rtill6 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 23:05:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] used bike Message-ID: <8CCA5A8B4A51147-19E4-BFCE@webmail-d053.sysops.aol.com> All We have a used 2007 Triumph Speed Triple. It has $1000 worth of accessories. There is 3300 miles on the clock. The price is $6495.00. If anyone is interested let me know. Thanks Gordon From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Fri Apr 9 04:06:58 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:06:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Protest Photos from Kyrgystan In-Reply-To: References: <1951520351.8613871270743909735.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1653174595.8616471270744169937.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: >> When we have been the only country to actually use one of these weapons in >> war. >> >> Yes, I know the justifications and rationals, and I am NOT saying what we >> did was wrong. I just do not see how in the world we can judge others. But >> that is what Americans seem to do best. Why is every country with "stan" at the end fu#+ed up?? Dano? From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Fri Apr 9 04:11:18 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:11:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] used bike In-Reply-To: <8CCA5A8B4A51147-19E4-BFCE@webmail-d053.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA5A8B4A51147-19E4-BFCE@webmail-d053.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:05 PM, wrote: > All > > We have a used 2007 ?Triumph Speed Triple. It has $1000 worth of > accessories. ?There is 3300 miles on the clock. ?The price is $6495.00. > ?If anyone is interested let me know. ?Thanks ? ?Gordon Gordon, Don't worry about riding your Triumph to your new job at the H-D shop. If you don't ride a hog, they know you won't be needing discount parts (reassuring to management). Dano From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Apr 9 03:42:02 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 23:42:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jtan is a biker In-Reply-To: References: <4BBE398D.12936.167E0734@localhost> Message-ID: <4BBE69CA.4623.173A741A@localhost> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Joe Dille > wrote: > As most of you know the mac-pac list is hosted at a small ISP > in > Sellersville called Jtan. ?The dude that runs it is Chris > Nadovich > and he is a good egg. > > > I have always wanted to know where and what jtan is. Thanks for this > brief introduction. I wouldn't mind hearing the story of how original > MacPacr's stumbled across jtan, as the most suitable host for these > ethereal communications. > Short story. Jtan was my ISP from the very beginning. When our original free host was sold and kicked us off we needed a new home. I raised my hand and said I would set it up on Jtan. Brian volunteered to be the LN. That was that. Long story is on the http://www.mac-pac.org site under "about". Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 9 14:26:15 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:26:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Alart: Were you getting McAfee "free" from Comcast? Message-ID: If you signed up to get it "free" you might have signedup for more than you thought and have been paying ~US$5/month. And you will be even with a change in "free" anti-virus. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/04/mcafeelawsuit/ Someone else reported this: =========== Comcast is changing their virus protection from McAfee to Symantec. I haven't paid much attention, since I use Microsoft AV, but I was curious when I recently got an email from McAfee telling me that my credit card information was out of date, and I needed to update it so they could renew my services. I couldn't remember ever ordering anything from McAfee, other than the "free" AV services through Comcast, so I chalked it up as a clerical error and continued to ignore them. ================ The article notes: ############ The lawsuit, which seeks unspecified damages, alleges that McAfee consumers are duped into purchasing a $4.95 monthly subscription to Arpu, an advertising company enabling consumers to make purchases from an online ad with a single click using credit card information already on file. ?Customers are deceived by the McAfee-Arpu pop-up and believe that they are simply completing a necessary step to download McAfee software after their purchase,? the suit claims. ?But a single click on the deceptive pop-up causes the purchase of an unwanted product from Arpu, a sale made without the knowledge or authorization of customers, using credit/debit card billing information that they have entrusted solely to McAfee.? The suit says ?nearly illegible? gray, 6-point type on the pop-up instructs consumers that they are authorizing their credit card with Arpu and that ?information regarding the price of the $4.95 a month is set forth in nearly illegible blue, 8-point type set against a blue background.? ################ Guess not... I wonder if folks realize that all those "arty" displays of colored type on the same color background are lulling them into complacency. That "art for arts sake" in what is supposed to be, or what I would expect to be communication might not be a great idea. Check your Credit card bill if you have been using the Comcast "Free" McFee anti-virus. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From ephoet at gmail.com Fri Apr 9 14:39:44 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:39:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hybrid water heaters (yes its OT if you must know) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Gerry Cavanaugh wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Erik Hoet wrote: >> Anyone seen these new "hybrid" water heaters? ?Combination of an air >> to air heat pump with a electric water heater. ? Pulls the heat out of >> your basement air. >> > > I'm in the middle of purchasing one of the GE units for my son. > Please also note that you can get a refund from the state of PA in the > amount of $200 plus the $650 tax credit. ?Check the following site. > > www.recovery.pa.gov. > > Note that you can not apply before April 21st. ?Anything completed > prior will disqualify you so be careful. > > Becareful with the price also. ?While the paper work from GE has an > MSRP of $1600.00 you will charged freight and the quoted price I have > received is $1799.00 plus installation from Martin Water Conditioning > in Brownstown, PA. > Thanks, Gerry. If in PECO territory, there is also a $300 rebate available. If all that pans out, for me that would be: 200 + 650 + 300 = $1150 in rebates for a $1600 heater. Not bad. The payback period should be quick. I would do my own installation, it aint that hard..... http://www.pecosmartideas.com/programsandrebates/residential/homerebates.html BTW, there are a lot of good rebates here, well worth your time to investigate if you live in the PECO area. (If not PECO, all PA utilities HAVE TO offer energy rebates per the PUC, so check with your local utility) Erik H West Chester From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 9 14:51:31 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:51:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hybrid water heaters (yes its OT if you must know) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/9/10, Erik Hoet wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Gerry Cavanaugh wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Erik Hoet wrote: > > I'm in the middle of purchasing one of the GE units for my son. > > Please also note that you can get a refund from the state of PA in the > > amount of $200 plus the $650 tax credit. Check the following site. > > > > www.recovery.pa.gov. > If in PECO territory, there is also a $300 rebate available. If all > that pans out, for me that would be: > > 200 + 650 + 300 = $1150 in rebates for a $1600 heater. Not bad. The > payback period should be quick. I would do my own installation, it > aint that hard..... > > http://www.pecosmartideas.com/programsandrebates/residential/homerebates.html > > BTW, there are a lot of good rebates here, well worth your time to > investigate if you live in the PECO area. (If not PECO, all PA > utilities HAVE TO offer energy rebates per the PUC, so check with your > local utility) Might I remind everyone that there is NO FREE MONEY. That "refund from the state of PA" is OTHER TAX PAYERS MONEY. (And PA can't just print their own and depreciate the currency like the feds do with the Fed.) Ditto the "tax credit" cause that reduces the tax payer money that the state is ALREADY upside down for. Ditto the PECO rebate but in that case it is the other electricity users paying for it. All courtesy of someone with an agenda that is SURE their idea "will be a GOOD THING." sometime in the future even if it is not "right now." Damn, that looks like a cliff showing up. Or "where is my chair, the music is stopping???" -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From ephoet at gmail.com Fri Apr 9 16:01:06 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:01:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hybrid water heaters (yes its OT if you must know) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> >> ?BTW, there are a lot of good rebates here, well worth your time to >> ?investigate if you live in the PECO area. ?(If not PECO, all PA >> ?utilities HAVE TO offer energy rebates per the PUC, so check with your >> ?local utility) > > > Might I remind everyone that there is NO FREE MONEY. > > That "refund from the state of PA" is OTHER TAX PAYERS MONEY. ?(And PA > can't just print their own and depreciate the currency like the feds > do with the Fed.) Perhaps so. But in the end, you either take advantage of the rebate, or walk away and leave money on the table. I choose to take advantage; my wallet can't afford to pay $1600 for a new water heater. If you're wealthy enough to pay that straight up without a rebate, congratulations and thank-you for your support. EPH From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Fri Apr 9 16:41:23 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 16:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Alart: Were you getting McAfee "free" from Comcast? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1805154343.9079241270831283417.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >If you signed up to get it "free" you might have signedup for more >than you thought and have been paying ~US$5/month. And you will be >even with a change in "free" anti-virus. So that explains the switchover from McAfee to Norton for Comcast. I recently had to get rid of McAfee and download the free Norton from them. I never got charged for anything though. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From pasegc at gmail.com Fri Apr 9 17:07:56 2010 From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:07:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hybrid water heaters (yes its OT if you must know) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Erik Hoet wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Gerry Cavanaugh wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Erik Hoet wrote: > ?If in PECO territory, there is also a $300 rebate available. ? If all > that pans out, for me that would be: > Not so fast my friend. With the state rebate you can not take the local electric company rebate also. It appears that PECO is offerering a better deal by $100. Will check this out now. Thanks, Gerry Cavanaugh Coatesville, PA > > From ephoet at gmail.com Fri Apr 9 18:26:44 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:26:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hybrid water heaters (yes its OT if you must know) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Gerry Cavanaugh wrote: > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Erik Hoet wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Gerry Cavanaugh wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Erik Hoet wrote: > > >> ?If in PECO territory, there is also a $300 rebate available. ? If all >> that pans out, for me that would be: >> > Not so fast my friend. ?With the state rebate you can not take the > local electric company rebate also. ?It appears that PECO is > offerering a better deal by $100. Will check this out now. > > Thanks, -------------------------------------------- No, thank you, Gerry! I was not aware of the exclusion. Still 650 + 300 = 950, that's 59% of the cost. Hard to beat. BTW, you can buy the GE heater at Lowes in Delaware, save the sales tax. FYI , if you need more info on PECO Smart Ideas rebates, call PECO at 1-888-573-2672 (Got that from our PECO account rep , they don't seem to have that posted on their Smart Ideas website......) Erik From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com Fri Apr 9 18:41:21 2010 From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (hugh mccann) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:41:21 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: or ON, Make your own sliders Message-ID: http://www.bigredkitchen.com/2009/06/white-castle-like-sliders-how-to.html hugh 2007 f650GS "Thumper" cville in the hizzie! From ephoet at gmail.com Fri Apr 9 20:25:14 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 16:25:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] we lost one (V22 - OT) Message-ID: >From today's sad news: US loses first Osprey aircraft in Afghanistan, 4 dead By ROBERT H. REID , Associated Press Last update: April 9, 2010 - 1:31 PM KABUL - A U.S. Air Force Osprey went down in southeastern Afghanistan, the U.S. military said Friday, killing three service members and one civilian contractor in the first crash of the costly tilt-rotor aircraft in a combat zone http://www.startribune.com/world/90347229.html From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Apr 10 00:55:34 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:55:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] (Fwd) Bugs on the windscreen Message-ID: <4BBF9446.10893.1BC86A9C@localhost> >From the R90s group. Be careful out there! ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Very good!!! Do you have problems with bugs on you windscreen? Found this on YouTube :- Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA USA --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From gary5410 at aol.com Sat Apr 10 04:22:38 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:22:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Favorite pics Message-ID: <8CCA67C96AD333A-B20-18901@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> Not really OT - a lot of these were taken from my moto! Some of my favorite pics......most of these are from my motorcycle ride to Alaska. I have a lot to go through yet, as I have 39,730 pics. Here's a few...... http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Photography/Garys/11784922_hoKsK#832303670_7LRn3 From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Apr 10 10:39:40 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 06:39:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Favorite pics In-Reply-To: <8CCA67C96AD333A-B20-18901@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BC01D2C.11012.1DDF2AAC@localhost> > Not really OT - a lot of these were taken from my moto! > > Some of my favorite pics......most of these are from my motorcycle > ride to Alaska. I have a lot to go through yet, as I have 39,730 pics. > > Here's a few...... > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Photography/Garys/11784922_hoKsK#832303670 > _7LRn3 > Gary, Fantastic shots. You ever think of working for National Geographic? Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Apr 10 10:53:10 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 06:53:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Almost saw the air Message-ID: <4BC02056.682.1DEB8960@localhost> I was riding home the other day and I noticed a slight wump-wump-wump as I peddled along. It was particularly noticeable on smooth downhills. When I got home I saw this: http://home.jtan.com/~joe/bicycle/images/tire_air.jpg I had inspected the tire about 100 miles before and I saw it was getting very thin. It was not much longer until the cords were coming out. The wump-wump was due to the fact I wore through a couple of cords causing a bubble. I was lucky to get home. Here is another shot comparing the crossection of the worn out tire with an almost new one that was cut by a rock early in its life. http://home.jtan.com/~joe/bicycle/images/tire_before_after.jpg Now I know how far I can go on a rear tire, and what a ready for replacement tire looks like. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From wayne at 2zars.com Sat Apr 10 12:01:58 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Favorite pics In-Reply-To: <8CCA67C96AD333A-B20-18901@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA67C96AD333A-B20-18901@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:22:38 -0400, you wrote: >Not really OT - a lot of these were taken from my moto! > >Some of my favorite pics......most of these are from my motorcycle ride >to Alaska. I have a lot to go through yet, as I have 39,730 pics. > >Here's a few...... > >http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Photography/Garys/11784922_hoKsK#832303670_7LRn3 > Very nice! 40,000?? You're gonna be busy for a while! Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From wayne at 2zars.com Sat Apr 10 12:04:02 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:04:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Montgomeryville BMW Spring Kick-off Message-ID: <96q0s5pkh2jkviqsdvcoch6oaq9eh9icun@4ax.com> I forgot to post that MCC is having a Spring Kick-off that ends today. They are open 9-8. Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From wayne at 2zars.com Sat Apr 10 12:19:03 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:19:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MOA Mileage Contest stats TODAY Message-ID: Record your mileage!! NOW Form is here if you don't have the one from the magazine. http://www.bmwmoa.org/files/misc/BMWMOA_MILEAGE_2010_start.pdf Gerry Cavanaugh normally collects them on behalf of the club. Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From rsorens at comcast.net Sat Apr 10 12:25:34 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:25:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MOA Mileage Contest stats TODAY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >http://www.bmwmoa.org/files/misc/BMWMOA_MILEAGE_2010_start.pdf > >Gerry Cavanaugh normally collects them on behalf of the club. And even the MOA ON article says so! Great credit for a job well done. Rick From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Sat Apr 10 14:34:30 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:34:30 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Favorite pics In-Reply-To: <8CCA67C96AD333A-B20-18901@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA67C96AD333A-B20-18901@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Gary Christman wrote: > Not really OT - a lot of these were taken from my moto! > > Some of my favorite pics......most of these are from my motorcycle ride > to Alaska. I have a lot to go through yet, as I have 39,730 pics. > > Here's a few...... > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Photography/Garys/11784922_hoKsK#832303670_7LRn3 > Gary, These are terrific. The care you use in having your camera ready at all times really shows. The rest of us are constantly missing great shots while fumbling for the camera or the ON button. Uh, the "Ontario" shots should be re-labeled as Quebec. And the "Matagami" campsite I think is the Radisson campsite. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From gary5410 at aol.com Sat Apr 10 14:53:22 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:53:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Favorite pics In-Reply-To: References: <8CCA67C96AD333A-B20-18901@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CCA6D4B311A165-1CC8-8D35@webmail-d023.sysops.aol.com> You are very right..........it was late! Thanks, Gary -----Original Message----- From: Doug Raymond To: Gary Christman Cc: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Sent: Sat, Apr 10, 2010 10:34 am Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] OT Favorite pics On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Gary Christman wrote: > Not really OT - a lot of these were taken from my moto! > > Some of my favorite pics......most of these are from my motorcycle ride > to Alaska. I have a lot to go through yet, as I have 39,730 pics. > > Here's a few...... > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Photography/Garys/11784922_hoKsK#832303670_7LRn3 > Gary, These are terrific. The care you use in having your camera ready at all times really shows. The rest of us are constantly missing great shots while fumbling for the camera or the ON button. Uh, the "Ontario" shots should be re-labeled as Quebec. And the "Matagami" campsite I think is the Radisson campsite. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From Doug at pencader.com Sat Apr 10 14:59:57 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:59:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Favorite pics In-Reply-To: <8CCA67C96AD333A-B20-18901@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA67C96AD333A-B20-18901@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001f01cad8be$7edb7d60$7c927820$@com> Gary snapped; >>> snips > Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Favorite pics >>> snips > Some of my favorite pics......most of these are from my motorcycle ride > to Alaska. I have a lot to go through yet, as I have 39,730 pics. > Here's a few...... > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Photography/Garys/11784922_hoKsK#832303670_7LRn3 >>> end Gary, Good stuff . . . it was an inspiration as I was filing out my 2010 Mileage Form! My work-related destination for today includes Wilmington and Lewes . . . should be a solid 200 miles to start me off. Best to you, Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From motorrader at verizon.net Sat Apr 10 15:07:33 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:07:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Trike with a nice headrest!!! References: <7f448.3f1f9376.38eff4ae@aol.com> Message-ID: <5A30D88C6776467883AC08A414801819@dellfe483b726d> > http://www.trackshare.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=64891&d=12693516 > This is good. Did anyone but me notice that the gas tank is an old belly > slung milking machine bucket? Roddy No...............but I did notice the other two bellies. Roddy, you are very observant, I should have caught that one :) tt From gary5410 at aol.com Sat Apr 10 17:50:11 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:50:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Favorite pics In-Reply-To: <001f01cad8be$7edb7d60$7c927820$@com> References: <8CCA67C96AD333A-B20-18901@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> <001f01cad8be$7edb7d60$7c927820$@com> Message-ID: <8CCA6ED6702F415-1CC8-A50D@webmail-d023.sysops.aol.com> Great start! My moto is still at Hermy's..........driveshaft and swing arm replaced.....THANK YOU HERMY!....... now he's doing the 36000 mile service (a little late)....I told him not to hurry......... I've got a kitchen to build! Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure -----Original Message----- From: Doug > Some of my favorite pics......most of these are from my motorcycle ride > to Alaska. I have a lot to go through yet, as I have 39,730 pics. > Here's a few...... http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Photography/Garys/11784922_hoKsK#832303670_7LRn3 >>> end Gary, Good stuff . . . it was an inspiration as I was filing out my 2010 Mileage Form! My work-related destination for today includes Wilmington and Lewes . . . should be a solid 200 miles to start me off. Best to you, Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From gary5410 at aol.com Sat Apr 10 17:52:52 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:52:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Trike with a nice headrest!!! In-Reply-To: <5A30D88C6776467883AC08A414801819@dellfe483b726d> References: <7f448.3f1f9376.38eff4ae@aol.com> <5A30D88C6776467883AC08A414801819@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <8CCA6EDC710582F-1CC8-A566@webmail-d023.sysops.aol.com> With a very nasty handle..............Don't stop too quickly!!!!!! Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure - > http://www.trackshare.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=64891&d=12693516 > This is good. Did anyone but me notice that the gas tank is an old belly > slung milking machine bucket? Roddy No...............but I did notice the other two bellies. Roddy, you are very observant, I should have caught that one :) From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Apr 10 22:17:28 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MOA Mileage Contest stats TODAY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4BC0C0B8.17912.205E05DF@localhost> > Record your mileage!! NOW > > Form is here if you don't have the one from the magazine. > > http://www.bmwmoa.org/files/misc/BMWMOA_MILEAGE_2010_start.pdf > > Gerry Cavanaugh normally collects them on behalf of the club. > Done. Thanks for the reminder. Do we bring them to the PFD next Sunday? Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From rdlebout at gmail.com Sat Apr 10 22:19:58 2010 From: rdlebout at gmail.com (Roberts LeBoutillier) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:19:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Quiet at last - this windshield works Message-ID: Spring has started and I won't be around much because of business. Jack, sorry I missed the ride to NJ. I was at Sts Philip and James Church for a funeral that was work related. The ride on May 2nd might not work for me but my bike will be available if I am not. Here is something about the windshield battle I think I finally won. Yes, it is not beautiful! http://s529.photobucket.com/albums/dd331/R1200RBMW/R1200R%20windshield/ The Parabellum Scout Fairing removed the wind noise that developed from the air coming up and over the gas tank. I might purchase a 14" Parabellum smoked shield and replace this cut down shield or just paint the existing one black. It will improve the looks. The R1150RT shield takes care of the rest. I used the RT shield because I had it. The u-bolts that connect the Ram Mounts to the lower windshield mount give the windshield adjust-ability. By rotating the u-bolts on the handlebar the height and rake will change. There is still some touch up painting to do. I do not know what will happen in a hard rain. Napoleon mirrors are preferred over the stock mirrors so that was easy. I am 6'1" with 30" inseam so have 43" of torso to deal with. Stock seat and I sit upright so all other windshields have had too much wind noise. It is nice that earplugs are not mandatory anymore. Now that I know the exact position for the windshield I might have bracket made that attaches to the handlebar clamp or I might look into extending the fork tubes higher (smaller diameter) and build off of that. -- Bobby LeBoutillier From pasegc at gmail.com Sat Apr 10 23:49:53 2010 From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:49:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MOA Mileage Contest stats TODAY In-Reply-To: <4BC0C0B8.17912.205E05DF@localhost> References: <4BC0C0B8.17912.205E05DF@localhost> Message-ID: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Joe Dille wrote: > > >> Record your mileage!! ?NOW >> >> Form is here if you don't have the one from the magazine. >> >> http://www.bmwmoa.org/files/misc/BMWMOA_MILEAGE_2010_start.pdf >> >> Gerry Cavanaugh normally collects them on behalf of the club. >> > Yes, please bring them to the PFD. I'll be collecting forms at that time and will bring some blanks for those that forget. Please complete your forms with your signature at the bottom. The Mac-Pac is Charted Club #289. The forms can be delivered as noted above or USPS to me at the following: Gerry Cavanaugh 40 Ackman Lane Coatesville, PA 19320 From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 00:47:03 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] An auspicious start 310 miles today Message-ID: Nothing like a run to Washington DC and back to start the contest with a bang. Now watch the rest of the season turn to putty.... But "I ARE a participant!!!" -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwdick at gmail.com Sat Apr 10 23:17:04 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:17:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Favorite pics In-Reply-To: <8CCA67C96AD333A-B20-18901@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA67C96AD333A-B20-18901@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Gary: What great photos and I'm sure they all come with memories of outstanding trips. Thanks for sharing them. Dick On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Gary Christman wrote: > Not really OT - a lot of these were taken from my moto! > > Some of my favorite pics......most of these are from my motorcycle ride > to Alaska. I have a lot to go through yet, as I have 39,730 pics. > > Here's a few...... > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Photography/Garys/11784922_hoKsK#832303670_7LRn3 > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick From gary5410 at aol.com Sun Apr 11 01:35:16 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:35:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] An auspicious start 310 miles today In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCA72E5F84AE41-1CC8-DDC7@webmail-d023.sysops.aol.com> Good day for it! You guys are all getting a head start on me.........I'm gonna be playing catch-up! Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure -----Original Message----- From: Brian Curry Nothing like a run to Washington DC and back to start the contest with a bang. Now watch the rest of the season turn to putty.... But "I ARE a participant!!!" From piechota at argolis.org Sun Apr 11 03:58:21 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:58:21 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] An auspicious start 310 miles today In-Reply-To: <8CCA72E5F84AE41-1CC8-DDC7@webmail-d023.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA72E5F84AE41-1CC8-DDC7@webmail-d023.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BC148DD.9030802@argolis.org> Gary Christman wrote: > Good day for it! > You guys are all getting a head start on me.........I'm gonna be > playing catch-up! I rode 2.6 miles today, but that was on a bicycle so it doesn't count. :) From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Apr 11 11:39:07 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:39:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] An auspicious start 310 miles today In-Reply-To: <4BC148DD.9030802@argolis.org> References: <8CCA72E5F84AE41-1CC8-DDC7@webmail-d023.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BC17C9B.14369.233BF3BE@localhost> > Gary Christman wrote: > > Good day for it! > > You guys are all getting a head start on me.........I'm gonna be > > playing catch-up! > > I rode 2.6 miles today, but that was on a bicycle so it doesn't count. > :) > "A journey of 1000 miles starts with a single step". Glad to see you started. I put 20 miles on the K100 and managed a couple miles on the bicycle too. Ride Safe, Joe (The adjusted regulator rocks.) --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From rdlebout at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 12:13:00 2010 From: rdlebout at gmail.com (Roberts LeBoutillier) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:13:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Almost saw the air In-Reply-To: <4BC02056.682.1DEB8960@localhost> References: <4BC02056.682.1DEB8960@localhost> Message-ID: Joe, I was wondering You seem to take two wheeled human power riding to the limits. Is that how you ride motorcycles? Bobby On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Joe Dille wrote: > I was riding home the other day and I noticed a slight wump-wump-wump > as I peddled along. ?It was particularly noticeable on smooth > downhills. ?When I got home I saw this: > http://home.jtan.com/~joe/bicycle/images/tire_air.jpg > > I had inspected the tire about 100 miles before and I saw it was > getting very thin. ?It was not much longer until the cords were > coming out. ?The wump-wump was due to the fact I wore through a > couple of cords causing a bubble. ?I was lucky to get home. > > Here is another shot comparing the crossection of the worn out tire > with an almost new one that was cut by a rock early in its life. > http://home.jtan.com/~joe/bicycle/images/tire_before_after.jpg > > Now I know how far I can go on a rear tire, and what a ready for > replacement tire looks like. > > Ride Safe, > > Joe > --------------------------------- > Joe Dille > Telford, PA USA > joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us > What happens on Earth, stays on Earth > http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Bobby LeBoutillier From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Sun Apr 11 12:46:39 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:46:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] An auspicious start 310 miles today References: <8CCA72E5F84AE41-1CC8-DDC7@webmail-d023.sysops.aol.com> <4BC17C9B.14369.233BF3BE@localhost> Message-ID: <03bb01cad975$07e43dc0$4001a8c0@FastHP> >> Gary Christman wrote: >> > Good day for it! >> > You guys are all getting a head start on me.........I'm gonna be >> > playing catch-up! >> >> I rode 2.6 miles today, but that was on a bicycle so it doesn't count. >> :) >> > > "A journey of 1000 miles starts with a single step". Glad to see you > started. > > I put 20 miles on the K100 and managed a couple miles on the bicycle > too. I started by putting 120 miles on my F650/800. I joined a ride by the Antique Club around southeren Chester County. Members of the Norton Club joined us. We ended at the Four Dog Restuarant for lunch. They are not serving their Four Dog Burger any more. I guess the Rescue league must have complained. But the lunch was good. Marge From piechota at argolis.org Sun Apr 11 13:04:57 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:04:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Impromptu Ride Message-ID: <4BC1C8F9.1090108@argolis.org> I'm going to Harry's on US30 business and Old Wilmington Road (between Airport Rd and PA 10, in Sadsburyville) for breakfast at 10AM. After that, I'm going out for a ride with no particular plan. I'd love company if anyone wants to join me. From ladyvol at fastmail.fm Sun Apr 11 13:18:31 2010 From: ladyvol at fastmail.fm (Jill McCarley) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:18:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MOA Mileage Contest stats TODAY In-Reply-To: References: <4BC0C0B8.17912.205E05DF@localhost> Message-ID: <1270991911.15992.1369351227@webmail.messagingengine.com> > >> Record your mileage!! ?NOW > >> > >> Form is here if you don't have the one from the magazine. > >> > >> http://www.bmwmoa.org/files/misc/BMWMOA_MILEAGE_2010_start.pdf > >> > >> Gerry Cavanaugh normally collects them on behalf of the club. > >> > > > Yes, please bring them to the PFD. I'll be collecting forms at that > time and will bring some blanks for those that forget. > > Please complete your forms with your signature at the bottom. The > Mac-Pac is Charted Club #289. The forms can be delivered as noted > above or USPS to me at the following: > > Gerry Cavanaugh > 40 Ackman Lane > Coatesville, PA 19320 Will do and get it into the mail tomorrow! I was reminded of this by our local club's representative yesterday, who wanted me to sign on for them. Being a loyal Pac'er, I politely declined. Gotta stick with my team. I hope to pile on some miles this year! best, Jill ---------------------------- '90 R100GS '06 K1200 R "The Screaming Meanie" Jill McCarley, MD Child and Adolescent Psychiatry Member, Ketchup Advisory Board "Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness." From motorrader at verizon.net Sun Apr 11 13:27:57 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:27:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Live Life to the fullest Message-ID: <980B9225768348EB97C9C1B126B72D0F@dellfe483b726d> "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop, at late or early hour. Now is the only time you own. Live, love, toil with a will. Place no faith in time. For the clock may soon be still." unknown From 321design at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 13:37:13 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob H) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:37:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Impromptu Ride In-Reply-To: <4BC1C8F9.1090108@argolis.org> References: <4BC1C8F9.1090108@argolis.org> Message-ID: <-3767514294083355182@unknownmsgid> Rob; sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Matt Piechota wrote: > I'm going to Harry's on US30 business and Old Wilmington Road (between > Airport Rd and PA 10, in Sadsburyville) for breakfast at 10AM. Too bad Matt. I went for a ride this morning. Now enjoying a mess of chipped beef at The Chefs Diner in Downingtown > . From piechota at argolis.org Sun Apr 11 13:50:59 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:50:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Impromptu Ride In-Reply-To: <-3767514294083355182@unknownmsgid> References: <4BC1C8F9.1090108@argolis.org> <-3767514294083355182@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <4BC1D3C3.5080606@argolis.org> Rob H wrote: > Too bad Matt. I went for a ride this morning. Now enjoying a mess of > chipped beef at The Chefs Diner in Downingtown No worries, one of these days I'll learn that announcing these things more than an hour before I plan on doing them works better. From pasegc at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 13:57:26 2010 From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:57:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MOA Mileage Contest stats TODAY In-Reply-To: <1270991911.15992.1369351227@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <4BC0C0B8.17912.205E05DF@localhost> <1270991911.15992.1369351227@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Jill McCarley wrote: >> > > Will do and get it into the mail tomorrow! ?I was reminded of this by > our local club's representative yesterday, who wanted me to sign on for > them. ?Being a loyal Pac'er, I politely declined. ?Gotta stick with my > team. > > I hope to pile on some miles this year! > Jill, Stick to your guns. Ask them to join us, we are proud. Then again Howard might even join us, God forbid and Independent. Ride long and ride safe. Gerry Cavanaugh Coatesville, PA From motorrader at verizon.net Sun Apr 11 13:59:57 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:59:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Perfect Husband :-) Message-ID: <5AA84C57BD5240C880E19C36D3BEC50F@dellfe483b726d> Perfect Husband Several men are in the locker room of a golf club. A cell phone on a bench rings and a man engages the hands-free speaker-function and begins to talk. Everyone else in the room stops to listen. MAN: "Hello." WOMAN: "Honey, it's me. Are you at the club ?" MAN: "Yes." WOMAN: "I am at the mall now and found this beautiful leather coat. It's only $1,000. Is it OK if I buy it?" MAN: "Sure, go ahead if you like it that much." WOMAN: "I also stopped by the Mercedes dealership and Saw the new 2009 models. I saw one I really liked." MAN: "How much?" WOMAN: "$90,000." MAN: "OK, but for that price, I want it with all the options." WOMAN: "Great! Oh, and one more thing ...... The house I wanted last year is back on the market. They're asking $950,000." MAN: "Well, then go ahead and give them an offer of $900,000. They will probably take it. If not, we can go the extra 50 thousand. It is really a pretty good price." WOMAN: "OK. I'll see you later! I love you so much!!" MAN: "Bye! I love you, too." The man hangs up. The other men in the locker room are staring at him in astonishment, mouths agape..... Then he smiles and asks: "Anyone know who this phone belongs to?" From motorrader at verizon.net Sun Apr 11 14:20:38 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:20:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Warning........Beware of Well Endowed Women Message-ID: <820128DAF3AD4536B2CB1EB9AB9EB61D@dellfe483b726d> http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/prostitute-road-sign-baffles-residents-of-treviso-italy-ar87760.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100411/7011e21f/attachment.html From Ducdude at verizon.net Sun Apr 11 15:06:04 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:06:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Live Life to the fullest References: <980B9225768348EB97C9C1B126B72D0F@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <0CE23212677D42848FB40DC36D1E86BB@heilveil5e3fdd> > "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power > to tell just when the hands will stop, at late or early hour. > Now is the only time you own. Live, love, toil with a will. > Place no faith in time. For the clock may soon be still." > > unknown > Amen.. Duc From wateredg at interlog.com Sun Apr 11 15:22:52 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:22:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Live Life to the fullest References: <980B9225768348EB97C9C1B126B72D0F@dellfe483b726d> <0CE23212677D42848FB40DC36D1E86BB@heilveil5e3fdd> Message-ID: <70CB223FD0434CE486C0E89C58CDAFE5@9200c> Hello All, From: "Todd Trumbore" ; > "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power > to tell just when the hands will stop, at late or early hour. > Now is the only time you own. Live, love, toil with a will. > Place no faith in time. For the clock may soon be still." > > unknown Along the same lines... "Live your life as though you only had one life to live." "Never die with your song still in you." "F*ck it! I'm going riding." Feel free to use any of these quotes, if applicable. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From piechota at argolis.org Sun Apr 11 16:19:32 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:19:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Bike for sale (not mine) Message-ID: <4BC1F694.2080503@argolis.org> I happened to notice a recent HD Sportster 883 for sale near my house today, so I thought I'd pass it along in case anyone is looking for such a thing. It looks a lot like Dave Hardgrove's bike: orange tank, black drive train. If anyone's interested, I'll take a spin over and get a number and more info. From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 17:17:50 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:17:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] You think traffic is chaotic now? (San Francisco CA) Message-ID: Maybe not. Check the video here of traffic shortly before the SF earthquake. http://www.carlustblog.com/2010/04/urban-traffic.html I would also recommend reading the comments. In particular the comments about the "exhaust" of early vehicle propulsion units, and cleaning it up!!! One of the comments points here which is the top level for looking. http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/S?ammem/papr:@FILREQ%28 at field%28SUBJ+ at od1%28City+traffic--California--San+Francisco+%29%29+ at FIELD%28COLLID+sanfran%29%29 One of the selections there is this which is an analysis of the film, and what is going on. http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?papr:2:./temp/~ammem_xFm3:: (Scroll down for the text.) There us supposition that it was staged. Still IMO pretty darn cool. Obviously the folks on bicycles had FAT tires cause they did not drop into the rail or drive slots. Note the attire of everyone. The cable car operator had confidence, that they were NOT going to collect the trolleys crossing. All WS. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wassallj at infionline.net Sun Apr 11 19:58:45 2010 From: wassallj at infionline.net (Jay Wassall) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:58:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cool Motorcycle Accessory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BC229F5.3090304@infionline.net> This is thing to get if you are tired of waving to all those other bikers! http://www.franktherealbiker.com/ From charlesdscott at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 21:08:16 2010 From: charlesdscott at gmail.com (Charles Scott) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:08:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cool Motorcycle Accessory In-Reply-To: <4BC229F5.3090304@infionline.net> References: <4BC229F5.3090304@infionline.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Jay Wassall wrote: > This is thing to get if you are tired of waving to all those other bikers! > > http://www.franktherealbiker.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > >From my brother, also a real biker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7tBHoq49RU Regards, Charles Scott West Chester 77 R100s From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Sun Apr 11 21:19:34 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] *Spoiler* WSBK Message-ID: <1644914471.9659721271020774252.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> BMW's Troy Corser was great in race 1 at Valencia and took BMW's highest place yet in a WSBK race, 4th place. Seems that the bike is progressing nicely. How did Mr. Cutter do this weekend? John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Apr 11 21:43:24 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:43:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Almost saw the air In-Reply-To: References: <4BC02056.682.1DEB8960@localhost> Message-ID: <4BC20A3C.10819.2565343A@localhost> > Joe, > I was wondering > You seem to take two wheeled human power riding to the limits. > Is that how you ride motorcycles? > Bobby > When I was in my 20's perhaps, but now I just put along on the motorcycle. It is amazing how fast 45mph is when you have gone on the road a 20 so many times. On the bicycle I don't really test the limits too much. There are many, many, many that are faster and stronger. I am amazed that I can wear out mechanical components like wheels, tires and chains with human power. That is cool. Ride safe, Joe PS: Sent my form in today. Did you? --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Apr 11 21:51:53 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:51:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cool bike trick Message-ID: <4BC20C39.13238.256CF711@localhost> Joey and I were heading down 309 where 378 crosses and a late model sport bike passes us and heads into a U-turn that passes through the wide median. This is a 180 degree turn with a radius somewhat less that one would see on a clover-leaf. The turn was smooth and flat. The guy just heads into the corner and cranks it over like he is Tom Cutter or something. I think he has it cranked over fairly well when he reaches out and puts his palm on the ground like a short-track speed skater. Amazing. Joey and I just say "wooah". I have never seen that before. It would have been fairly easy to touch his knee down, but I have seen that before. Never seen the hand put down and not followed by the shoulder, head, hips... Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From piechota at argolis.org Sun Apr 11 22:37:37 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:37:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cool bike trick In-Reply-To: <4BC20C39.13238.256CF711@localhost> References: <4BC20C39.13238.256CF711@localhost> Message-ID: <4BC24F31.4020605@argolis.org> Joe Dille wrote: > Joey and I were heading down 309 where 378 crosses and a late model > sport bike passes us and heads into a U-turn that passes through the > wide median. This is a 180 degree turn with a radius somewhat less > that one would see on a clover-leaf. The turn was smooth and flat. > > The guy just heads into the corner and cranks it over like he is Tom > Cutter or something. I think he has it cranked over fairly well when > he reaches out and puts his palm on the ground like a short-track > speed skater. Amazing. Joey and I just say "wooah". > > I have never seen that before. It would have been fairly easy to > touch his knee down, but I have seen that before. Never seen the > hand put down and not followed by the shoulder, head, hips... I guess he doesn't believe in counter steering. I think Tom can come up with stories of getting elbows down on the track, but doing that on the street is a fair bit more daring. From jasiii at earthlink.net Sun Apr 11 23:00:12 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:00:12 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cool bike trick Message-ID: <26154168.1271026813165.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > >The guy just heads into the corner and cranks it over like he is Tom >Cutter or something. I think he has it cranked over fairly well when >he reaches out and puts his palm on the ground like a short-track >speed skater. Amazing. Joey and I just say "wooah". > >Ride Safe, > >Joe Did he save it ?? Way to far over for me Jim James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From Ducdude at verizon.net Mon Apr 12 00:07:27 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:07:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cool Motorcycle Accessory References: <4BC229F5.3090304@infionline.net> Message-ID: > This is thing to get if you are tired of waving to all those other bikers! > > http://www.franktherealbiker.com/ DO the HD guys get a hand with just the middle finger ?? Duc "cranking and banking on the /5 today" Duc From mrmevans at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 00:25:39 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:25:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Boot-ilicious Message-ID: First off, I do not aspire to be a regular blog writer like Jack and others - in that arena I lack the drive, time and, more importantly, the talent. But a free blog sure makes for an easy way to post some pics showing the results of taking a little extra care of my gear after my ride today... http://justamanandhisthoughts.blogspot.com/2010/04/something-that-has-taken-good-care-of.html -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Apr 12 00:39:56 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:39:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cool bike trick In-Reply-To: <4BC24F31.4020605@argolis.org> References: <4BC20C39.13238.256CF711@localhost> Message-ID: <4BC2339C.10926.2606D182@localhost> > Joe Dille wrote: > > The guy just heads into the corner and cranks it over like he is Tom > > Cutter or something. I think he has it cranked over fairly well > > when he reaches out and puts his palm on the ground like a > > short-track speed skater. Amazing. Joey and I just say "wooah". > > > > I have never seen that before. It would have been fairly easy to > > touch his knee down, but I have seen that before. Never seen the > > hand put down and not followed by the shoulder, head, hips... > > I guess he doesn't believe in counter steering. I think Tom can come > up with stories of getting elbows down on the track, but doing that on > the street is a fair bit more daring. > This did not have anything to do with countersteering as he was already in the corner and he still had one hand on the grip. (it was a left hand turn so he had his outside hand still on the grip.) He put his hand down so nonchalant. It was like walking through a doorway and reaching up to tap the header. I agree it was a daring move. Perhaps he was picking up spare change. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From tpcutter at aol.com Mon Apr 12 00:52:08 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:52:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Cool bike trick In-Reply-To: <4BC24F31.4020605@argolis.org> References: <4BC20C39.13238.256CF711@localhost> <4BC24F31.4020605@argolis.org> Message-ID: <8CCA7F18394A938-2848-2780A@Webmail-d113.sysops.aol.com> <> It's actually pretty easy to put your hand down on the pavement when cornering aggressively. t's hell on gloves, though. I do it to show students where they should be running to the apex of turns on the track. I say "If you can't touch the curb, you're too far away from it." I would never try that on the street, simply because there are too many traction variables. A coolant or even water spill from a passing car could easily put that guy sliding on his ass, right into oncoming traffic. It's actually a pretty ignorant move, because the other drivers did not volunteer to have him sliding up under their bumpers. Ahhh, to be young and dumb again. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From tpcutter at aol.com Mon Apr 12 01:03:32 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:03:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Thanks from Summit Point Message-ID: <8CCA7F31B4BD780-2848-279F5@Webmail-d113.sysops.aol.com> Pac- and -Runners; Just a note to thank the guys who rode down to Summit Point today with Earle Bare. I really appreciate the support and encouragement. Your timing could not have been better, arriving moments before the start of the Senior Superbike race, (my only decent finish all weekend) and being able to stay to see the Formula One race. I hope you all had a great ride home. It was a tough day, I'm really having a difficult time getting re-acclimated to roadracing after doing so many track days. The relaxed pace of coaching and track days has become too well-ingrained. and it was really hard to push the envelope. The best I managed all day was a fourth place finish in the Senior Superbike HW Expert class. All finishes were on the bottom of the roster board. Loved the weather, though, and that GSXR horsepower is intoxicating. There are few things in life that are as exhilarating as powering up the back hill at Summit Point, out of Turn Nine, with the front wheel clawing for air all the way, and the rear tire spinning. For BMW content, some dick-head (not Bregstein, though he may have been boulder-fixated, too) wadded up a new S1000RR here yesterday during the Novice Heavyeight Solo. That was an an expensive yard sale over in Turn Three. I was over there this evening, helping stow the air fences, and picked up several expensive-looking pieces of BMW bodywork. I'm going to save them until I have a whole bike. :) I'm camped in the Summit Paddock tonight, for a Roger Lyle Motorcycle Excitement Track Day tomorrow. Life is tough out here on the Western Front. --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Mon Apr 12 01:04:10 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 01:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Gassing day pics Message-ID: <1511268921.9735521271034250274.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I posted a few pics of gassing day on my blog at: http://nmwyg.blogspot.com/2010/04/gassing-day-2010.html Enjoy! John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From ladyvol at fastmail.fm Mon Apr 12 01:15:17 2010 From: ladyvol at fastmail.fm (Jill McCarley) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:15:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Thanks from Summit Point In-Reply-To: <8CCA7F31B4BD780-2848-279F5@Webmail-d113.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA7F31B4BD780-2848-279F5@Webmail-d113.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1271034917.20312.1369416031@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:03 -0400, "Tom Cutter" wrote: > Pac- and -Runners; SNIPPED > I'm camped in the Summit Paddock tonight, for a Roger Lyle Motorcycle > Excitement Track Day tomorrow. > > Life is tough out here on the Western Front. Tom, Chin up, stiff upper lip and all that! You may not be on the podium, but I'll just be no one else out there even comes close when you add in the "grizzled factor". Have fun out there! Jill -PS And thanks for the O-ring! The Beast is back in action, thanks to quality parts from RCRG. ---------------------------- '90 R100GS '06 K1200 R "The Screaming Meanie" Jill McCarley, MD Child and Adolescent Psychiatry Member, Ketchup Advisory Board "Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness." From piechota at argolis.org Mon Apr 12 01:43:59 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:43:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Thanks from Summit Point Message-ID: His did I miss this? I so would have skipped weeding the garden to go to the track. Tom Cutter wrote: >Pac- and -Runners; > >Just a note to thank the guys who rode down to Summit Point today with >Earle Bare. I really appreciate the support and encouragement. Your >timing could not have been better, arriving moments before the start of >the Senior Superbike race, (my only decent finish all weekend) and >being able to stay to see the Formula One race. I hope you all had a >great ride home. > >It was a tough day, I'm really having a difficult time getting >re-acclimated to roadracing after doing so many track days. The relaxed >pace of coaching and track days has become too well-ingrained. and it >was really hard to push the envelope. The best I managed all day was a >fourth place finish in the Senior Superbike HW Expert class. All >finishes were on the bottom of the roster board. > >Loved the weather, though, and that GSXR horsepower is intoxicating. >There are few things in life that are as exhilarating as powering up >the back hill at Summit Point, out of Turn Nine, with the front wheel >clawing for air all the way, and the rear tire spinning. > >For BMW content, some dick-head (not Bregstein, though he may have been >boulder-fixated, too) wadded up a new S1000RR here yesterday during the >Novice Heavyeight Solo. That was an an expensive yard sale over in Turn >Three. I was over there this evening, helping stow the air fences, and >picked up several expensive-looking pieces of BMW bodywork. I'm going >to save them until I have a whole bike. :) > >I'm camped in the Summit Paddock tonight, for a Roger Lyle Motorcycle >Excitement Track Day tomorrow. > >Life is tough out here on the Western Front. > > >--? >Tom Cutter >Yardley, PA >http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com > >??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? >_______________________________________________ >Mac-pac-l mailing list >Mac-pac-l at jtan.com >http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Apr 12 02:17:25 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 22:17:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Gassing day pics In-Reply-To: <1511268921.9735521271034250274.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1511268921.9735521271034250274.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CCA7FD6D0CFC3F-6E74-28C7F@Webmail-m119.sysops.aol.com> Nice to see what I missed ! Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure -----Original Message----- From: johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) I posted a few pics of gassing day on my blog at: http://nmwyg.blogspot.com/2010/04/gassing-day-2010.html Enjoy! John Clauss From rsorens at comcast.net Mon Apr 12 02:20:57 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 22:20:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Thanks from Summit Point In-Reply-To: <8CCA7F31B4BD780-2848-279F5@Webmail-d113.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Tom; Sorry we couldn't do the 'full monty' and get to ya. We were, ahhhh, running a little behind....so we bugged out. Rode back / Jim Robinson some of the ay; got to I83 and headed north, eventually to the turnpike. Got on, made a quick stop for a drink at Bowmansville rest stop...2 miles down the road, my GS SHUT OFF! Everything was working except the motor......kinda need that for most stuff on a bike. Looks like no fuel is getting to the injectors; will look closer on Monday nite. We'll see. We called the BMW MOA Roadside assistance. After we had paid it for 2 yrs and never used it, they didn't have us in the system. Even tho I had the policy type and provider number on the card. So after himming and hawing, she says, 'well, I'll enter you now and make the call to get the pick up started.' about an hour and a half later a tow truck shows up. Not a flat bed, a regular tow truck with an enclosed trailer. We load it in, tie it down and he follows Linda an I home (we 2-up'd on her bike). Grand total: $39! SAHWEEET! We'll see what it looks like tomorrow Rick From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 02:33:20 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 22:33:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Things remain uncertain in Kyrgyzstan Message-ID: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/12/world/europe/12kyrgyz.html Ousted Kyrgyz President Claims Popular Support TEYIT, Kyrgyzstan ? The president of this strategically important country, who was forced from the capital last week in bloody rioting, insisted in an interview on Sunday he that he retained popular support and mocked the interim government that has claimed power. Uncertainty reigns, and we are sure to far to have real clues. Will a mob go for Rendell in 2011 when electricity rates go up??? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Apr 12 02:35:10 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 22:35:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen venting and wiring. Message-ID: <8CCA7FFE82778DF-6E74-28EB4@Webmail-m119.sysops.aol.com> Got holes in the wall, 8" for the range hood, 4" for the bathroom. There was a fan in the bathroom, but it didn't vent anywhere......stupid builders! While the ceiling was open I installed a vent & upgraded the bathroom fan Worked on wiring.....getting close to drywall! A few pics........ http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#833026990_KiAqt Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From rcavalie at verizon.net Mon Apr 12 03:06:36 2010 From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:06:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen venting and wiring. In-Reply-To: <8CCA7FFE82778DF-6E74-28EB4@Webmail-m119.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA7FFE82778DF-6E74-28EB4@Webmail-m119.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000701cad9ed$2e69e990$8b3dbcb0$@net> Gary, Nice pics! Smart to use kraft paper! Rick Cavaliere 2009 K1300GT 1985 K100RT -----Original Message----- From: mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com [mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com] On Behalf Of Gary Christman Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 10:35 PM A few pics........ http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#833026990_KiAq t Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 03:21:04 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:21:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Even Pron won't survive the Internet and a Recission.... Message-ID: Not here, but in Seattle. http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/04/11/the-lusty-lady-will-close-in-june ========== Despite the landlord cutting their rent several times in recent years, the Lusty can't afford to pay its bills. "It's really the world economic climate," Davis said in an interview after the meeting. "Amazingly, p at rnography is not recession-resistant. The other recessions we've had in the past have not had much impact before. But we're right across the street from the Washington Mutual Tower, all the small sandwich shops nearby are closing?there's just no traffic." The internet has also steadily eroded business. "We had our all-time high in 1998," Davis said. "The fact that you can get massive amounts of fairly high-quality p at rnography for free has had a definite effect." ============== Likely not WS. Likely OK for family areas. Sidebars might spool up some. No skin or such issues. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Apr 12 10:42:04 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 06:42:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen venting and wiring. In-Reply-To: <8CCA7FFE82778DF-6E74-28EB4@Webmail-m119.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BC2C0BC.25579.282E0400@localhost> > Got holes in the wall, 8" for the range hood, 4" for the bathroom. > There was a fan in the bathroom, but it didn't vent > anywhere......stupid builders! Did I interpret the pictures right? The bath fan had no ducting at all. Vent Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Mon Apr 12 11:32:02 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 07:32:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MOA Mileage Contest stats TODAY References: <4BC0C0B8.17912.205E05DF@localhost> Message-ID: <6C48E52F7FC044189E1A1719613FE8A2@home.robinson.org> ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerry Cavanaugh Yes, please bring them to the PFD. I'll be collecting forms at that time and will bring some blanks for those that forget. Please complete your forms with your signature at the bottom. The Mac-Pac is Charted Club #289. The forms can be delivered as noted above or USPS to me at the following: _______________________________________________ Hmmm 0 Miles ridden on BMW's this weekend. 250 miles ridden on Ducati's. What is wrong with me? ;-) Jim Robinson West Chester PA 1995 BMW R1100GS Adventure "Little Enos" 1996 BMW K1100RS "The Red Baron" 2002 Ducati ST4S "Corbin Special" 2004 BMW R1150GS Adventure "Big Enos" From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com Mon Apr 12 12:37:11 2010 From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:37:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Monthly Breakfast this Sunday, April 18th - Summer hours In-Reply-To: References: <171801.791616843-sendEmail@aria> Message-ID: The Mac-Pac will hold its monthly 3rd Sunday breakfast this weekend, April 18th, at the Pottstown Family Diner in Pottstown, Pa. Yipeeeeeeeeee - summer hours. Most folks will gather by 8:00am but feel free to arrive whenever you like. This month you betta bring that MOA Mileage contest form because our Club President has, once again, picked up the golden jeweled Presidential scepter (for just a couple of weeks) to preside over the contest start. He will collect all the forms and will mail yours in for you. Think of the money you save by having Gerry do that!! WOW#*^~ Remind the waitresses to put your first name on your check so we can keep it all straight. We'll use the atrium room on the east side of the restaurant. We can use the back door but you MUST PAY at the front register before leaving for the day. For directions and other helpful information go to http://www.mac-pac.org and click on "eating". Nice USGS aerial photo/map at http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.249153,-75.659988&spn=0.005289,0.00769 Dark roof, just north east of Rte 100 and W King St Rte 663 (use satellite view). todd byrum gilbertsville, pa From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Apr 12 12:53:10 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:53:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen venting and wiring. In-Reply-To: <4BC2C0BC.25579.282E0400@localhost> Message-ID: <8CCA8563DA5275E-2AC8-6AA1@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> EXACTLY! Just vented into the box of the floor joists....meaning went nowhere! Pretty much useless! Gary -----Original Message----- From: Joe Dille To: Gary Christman ; mac-pac-l at jtan.com Sent: Mon, Apr 12, 2010 6:42 am Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen venting and wiring. > Got holes in the wall, 8" for the range hood, 4" for the bathroom. > There was a fan in the bathroom, but it didn't vent > anywhere......stupid builders! Did I interpret the pictures right? The bath fan had no ducting at all. Vent Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From wayne at 2zars.com Mon Apr 12 13:34:21 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 09:34:21 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen venting and wiring. In-Reply-To: <8CCA8563DA5275E-2AC8-6AA1@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> References: <4BC2C0BC.25579.282E0400@localhost> <8CCA8563DA5275E-2AC8-6AA1@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: > EXACTLY! > Just vented into the box of the floor joists....meaning went nowhere! > Pretty much useless! My in-laws requested that I add an exhaust fan to their master bathroom. The builder didn't think one was necessary because the bathroom has a window. I guess back then, maybe the code did not require it. While I was up there, I located the exhaust fan for the other bathroom. Same deal. No vent line. The exhaust vented directly into the blown-in insulation. I added a vent line for that since I was up there. Amazing how lazy some builders can be. -- Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From bmwdick at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 01:44:10 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:44:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] An auspicious start 310 miles today In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > Nothing like a run to Washington DC and back to start the contest with a bang. > > Now watch the rest of the season turn to putty.... > > But "I ARE a participant!!!" > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ambassador BMW MOA ? | (SNIP) > I got to powerwash the patio, but as you young guys say, "There's always tomorrow." -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 10:33:39 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 06:33:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Boot-ilicious In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mike: I've had Salt Marsh mud on my boots since last Fall. What method would you suggest to rehab the stinky,grungy boots? Your response could earn you a guest shot on a friend's blog. Dick On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Michael Evans wrote: > First off, I do not aspire to be a regular blog writer like Jack and > others - in that arena I lack the drive, time and, more importantly, > the talent. > > But a free blog sure makes for an easy way to post some pics showing > the results of taking a little extra care of my gear after my ride > today... > > http://justamanandhisthoughts.blogspot.com/2010/04/something-that-has-taken-good-care-of.html > > -- > Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick From mrmevans at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 17:08:25 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:08:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] An auspicious start 310 miles today In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Dick wrote: > > I got to powerwash the patio, but as you young guys say, "There's > always tomorrow." Dick, Some of the 'young guys' did work around the house yard AND went for a ride, then said, "There's always tomorrow to do that again." -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From saylorspond at comcast.net Mon Apr 12 17:36:24 2010 From: saylorspond at comcast.net (saylorspond at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Lee Parks Total Control Class In-Reply-To: <1593644200.13563711271093227522.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <5052867.13569421271093784353.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I rode down to Frederick Maryland this weekend for the "Advanced Riding Clinic". Since the class started at 8 am, I decided to ride down Friday after work and overnight at the Hampton Inn, near the community college. The class consisted of two instructors and 11 students. There was a good mix of bikes, two BMW RTs and a R1150R, a Gold Wing, Harley, Triumph Speed Triple, Motto Guzzi Le Mans, KTM, and several Yamahas. I found the class to be excellent. We covered many of the topics of Lee's book, with class presentations and parking lot practices: throttle control, trail braking, and lots of cornering (line selection, body positioning, transition between left and right turns, etc.). Some time was also spent on suspension setup and tuning. For me, the greatest benefit was getting feedback from the instructors on areas needing improvement and being able to have several runs at each exercise. They also offer several other courses, the "Level 2" being offered for those completing Level 1. Finances and time permitting, I hope to take this class in the future. Scott Miller Drexel Hill, PA 1999 R1100RT-P -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100412/c96c5941/attachment.html From ephoet at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 18:27:02 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:27:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Live Life to the fullest In-Reply-To: <980B9225768348EB97C9C1B126B72D0F@dellfe483b726d> References: <980B9225768348EB97C9C1B126B72D0F@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Todd Trumbore wrote: > "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power > ? ? ?to tell just when the hands will stop, at late or early hour. > ? ? ?Now is the only time you own. Live, love, toil with a will. > ? ? ?Place no faith in time. ?For the clock may soon be still." > > unknown > > _______________________________________________ My D-Town high school physics teacher had a different spin on that. Our class was split by lunch, so we were always watching the clock. Mr Landis would occasionally remind us: Time will pass, but will you.........? Never forgot that line. Erik Hoet West Chester From jasiii at earthlink.net Mon Apr 12 19:46:09 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:46:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] MOA Mileage Contest stats TODAY Message-ID: <4706379.1271101569646.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >0 Miles ridden on BMW's this weekend. >250 miles ridden on Ducati's. What is wrong with me? ;-) > >Jim Robinson You must just be feeling a little bit Italian rather then German Now that you have spent some time with a red bike you can come back the roundel and enjoy the riding even more. Jim James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From saylorspond at comcast.net Mon Apr 12 19:57:07 2010 From: saylorspond at comcast.net (saylorspond at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Live Life to the fullest In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <629568845.13647191271102227869.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> My D-Town high school physics teacher had a different spin on that. Our class was split by lunch, so we were always watching the clock. Mr Landis would occasionally remind us: Time will pass, but will you.........? Never forgot that line. Erik Hoet West Chester --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another teacher's quote: "I've got one foot on a banana peal, the other in the grave" And more meaningful, to me: "He is no fool who gives what he can not keep, to gain what he can not loose" -- James Elliot Scott Miller Drexel Hill, PA 1999 R1100RT-P From saylorspond at comcast.net Mon Apr 12 19:57:07 2010 From: saylorspond at comcast.net (saylorspond at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Live Life to the fullest In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <629568845.13647191271102227869.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> My D-Town high school physics teacher had a different spin on that. Our class was split by lunch, so we were always watching the clock. Mr Landis would occasionally remind us: Time will pass, but will you.........? Never forgot that line. Erik Hoet West Chester --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another teacher's quote: "I've got one foot on a banana peal, the other in the grave" And more meaningful, to me: "He is no fool who gives what he can not keep, to gain what he can not loose" -- James Elliot Scott Miller Drexel Hill, PA 1999 R1100RT-P From chrisjac at ptd.net Mon Apr 12 20:36:17 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:36:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] An auspicious start 310 miles today In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BC38441.3050504@ptd.net> Dick wrote: > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > >> Nothing like a run to Washington DC and back to start the contest with a bang. >> >> Now watch the rest of the season turn to putty.... >> >> But "I ARE a participant!!!" >> >> -- >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Ambassador BMW MOA | >> > > (SNIP) > > > > I got to powerwash the patio, but as you young guys say, "There's > always tomorrow." > You power washed a patio? Wow, what did that take, like 15 minutes? I washed a buddy's house, his detached garage, his concrete driveway, his concrete patio and his four cedar decks while he put new rear axle seals and rear brakes on my Isuzu truck. Ah, the barter system. Then I had a blue cheese turkey burger, shrimp, pasta salad and carrot cake....yummm. Chris Jaccarino From ephoet at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 21:03:37 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:03:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - VRS & V22 Message-ID: A great article on the V22, and a great explanation of "vortex ring state" (which contributed to a V22 crash back in Adapted from 'The Dream Machine:? The Untold History of the Notorious V-22 Osprey' Rotor & Wing contributing editor Richard Whittle has written a history of the V-22 Osprey. The book, which Simon & Schuster will release on April 27, can be ordered now on Amazon.com. Rick agreed to share an excerpt in advance with R&W readers. http://www.aviationtoday.com/rw/training/military/Adapted-from-The-Dream-Machine-The-Untold-History-of-the-Notorious-V-22-Osprey_67218.html EPH From earle.bare at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 21:31:38 2010 From: earle.bare at gmail.com (Earle Bare) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:31:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] An auspicious start 310 miles today In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > Nothing like a run to Washington DC and back to start the contest with a bang. Our group logged about 2,000 miles running down to Summit Point and back. Subtract Rick Sorensen's tow truck ride for a more accurate number:) Earle Bare West Chester, PA From earle.bare at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 21:34:05 2010 From: earle.bare at gmail.com (Earle Bare) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:34:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! Message-ID: The audio is not available yet and I only caught the last 10 seconds of the story when I heard "Jack Riepe of the Association of Corporate Travel Executives" More at: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125866582 Earle Bare West Chester, PA From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 22:26:23 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:26:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - VRS & V22 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/12/10, Erik Hoet wrote: > A great article on the V22, and a great explanation of "vortex ring > state" (which contributed to a V22 crash back in > http://www.aviationtoday.com/rw/training/military/Adapted-from-The-Dream-Machine-The-Untold-History-of-the-Notorious-V-22-Osprey_67218.html THNX Erik. There still ARE test pilots with the "right stuff" that go close to and into the "here be dragons" regions to find out where they really are, and how to extricate oneself. Also interesting that the V22 DOES have a "black box" for when BAD things happen. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jack.riepe at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 22:28:59 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:28:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Earle Et Al: Yes, that was me. I am occasionally called upon to step up to the plate and solve one of the business travel industry's major problems. In this episode, my opinion was sought on the wisdom of cramming a nation's Commander in Chief, the head of the army, the head of the navy, the head of the central bank, and 26 legislators into an aging Tupelov 154, and flying off into the fog. I wouldn't have done it. I am amazed when there are witnesses to what I do for a living. My mother thinks I am a piano player in a whore house. Thanks for mentioning this, Earle. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... But you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 22:31:59 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:31:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] An auspicious start 310 miles today In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What happened to Rick? -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 22:49:26 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:49:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - VRS & V22 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Eik: I was fascinated by this article. It is unlikely I would ever be asked to vortex ring test an Osprey. My girlish screams and seat wetting would be out of place in the history of this aircraft. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From piechota at argolis.org Mon Apr 12 23:05:04 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:05:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen venting and wiring. In-Reply-To: References: <4BC2C0BC.25579.282E0400@localhost> <8CCA8563DA5275E-2AC8-6AA1@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BC3A720.1040601@argolis.org> Wayne Woodruff wrote: >> EXACTLY! >> Just vented into the box of the floor joists....meaning went nowhere! >> Pretty much useless! > > My in-laws requested that I add an exhaust fan to their master > bathroom. The builder didn't think one was necessary because the > bathroom has a window. I guess back then, maybe the code did not > require it. Still don't, from the seems of it. My 2003-ish house doesn't have fans in either of the window'd bathrooms. From bergman at panix.com Mon Apr 12 23:27:46 2010 From: bergman at panix.com (bergman at panix.com) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:27:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen venting and wiring. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:05:04 EDT." <4BC3A720.1040601@argolis.org> References: <4BC3A720.1040601@argolis.org> <4BC2C0BC.25579.282E0400@localhost> <8CCA8563DA5275E-2AC8-6AA1@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <25067.1271114866@localhost> In the message dated: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:05:04 EDT, The pithy ruminations from Matt Piechota on were: [SNIP!] => => Still don't, from the seems of it. My 2003-ish house doesn't have fans => in either of the window'd bathrooms. Yep. My 1900ish house, with a bathroom that was gut-renovated in 2006, doesn't have a vent fan. I pointed that out during the inspection, and was told that the building code requires a window (which it has) or a fan. Of course, no one seems to actually follow the Philly building code anyway. Mark "steamy in Manayunk" Bergman From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 23:27:51 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:27:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Audio is up now. Those remote from the SE PA area can hear Jack's mellifluous tones here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125866582 On 4/12/10, Jack Riepe wrote: > Tupelov 154, and flying off into the fog. I wouldn't have done it. I PECo would not either. They had a bunch of executives stuffed into a helicopter leaving Conowingo Hydro station. It tangled in the power lines and was a BAD thing. They had a policy after that. I suspect this means that are Rallies the Mac-Pac hoi-poloi, the secret non-evil cabal, will have to camp in different areas now.... Oh, and I bet that the Tesla electric car people wish they had such a policy a few months ago. A bunch of their designers were all in a small single engine plane that crashed _in the fog_ shortly after taking off from the Palo Alto airport heading to LA I think it was. Not a good thing in a small company with unique IP. > am amazed when there are witnesses to what I do for a living. And no mention of Mac-Pac. Next time make up some numbers and policies for us, that you can mention.... ;);) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 23:39:25 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:39:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Got: depression, OCD, end-of-life anxiety, PTSD or addiction to drugs or alcohol, try a hallucinogen!!! Message-ID: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/12/science/12psychedelics.html (WS) "Scientists are taking a new look at hallucinogens, which became taboo among regulators after enthusiasts like Timothy Leary promoted them in the 1960s with the slogan ?Turn on, tune in, drop out.? Now, using rigorous protocols and safeguards, scientists have won permission to study once again the drugs? potential for treating mental problems and illuminating the nature of consciousness." -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wayne at 2zars.com Tue Apr 13 00:08:48 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:08:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen venting and wiring. In-Reply-To: <4BC3A720.1040601@argolis.org> References: <4BC2C0BC.25579.282E0400@localhost> <8CCA8563DA5275E-2AC8-6AA1@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> <4BC3A720.1040601@argolis.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:05:04 -0400, you wrote: >Wayne Woodruff wrote: >>> EXACTLY! >>> Just vented into the box of the floor joists....meaning went nowhere! >>> Pretty much useless! >> >> My in-laws requested that I add an exhaust fan to their master >> bathroom. The builder didn't think one was necessary because the >> bathroom has a window. I guess back then, maybe the code did not >> require it. > >Still don't, from the seems of it. My 2003-ish house doesn't have fans >in either of the window'd bathrooms. Hmmm. Must be locale specific. My house was built in 1990 and both baths have windows and fans. Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From pasegc at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 00:40:44 2010 From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:40:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - VRS & V22 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Erik Hoet wrote: > A great article on the V22, and a great explanation of "vortex ring > state" (which contributed to a V22 crash back in > > What a read and what a ride!!!!!!!! That would make Reipe scream like a girl and pee his pants. Gerry Cavanaugh Coatesville, PA From jasiii at earthlink.net Tue Apr 13 00:45:10 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:45:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Boot-ilicious In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Mike: > I've had Salt Marsh mud on my boots since last Fall. >> http://justamanandhisthoughts.blogspot.com/2010/04/something-that-has-taken-g >> ood-care-of.html >> >> -- >> Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA > Soap & Water with Brushes and do it twice wiping the boots between washes then leather treatment and then couple of coats of polish then lots of rubbing and polishing .. Not hard but it does take some time Hope this helps Jim (remembering being in the service and doing this a lot) -- Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From pasegc at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 00:46:25 2010 From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:46:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Earle Et Al: > > Yes, that was me. I am occasionally called upon to step up to the > plate and solve one of the business travel industry's major problems. > In this episode, my opinion was sought on the wisdom of cramming a > nation's Commander in Chief, the head of the army, the head of the > navy, the head of the central bank, and 26 legislators into an aging > Tupelov 154, and flying off into the fog. I wouldn't have done it. I can think of many in Washington that should make a flight together even on the Tupelov 154. These folks started out in a fog.and stay there as long as we feed them money and power. A PO'ed Citizen. From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 01:03:35 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Harley backflip!! Message-ID: Those OZ guys just don't back down! http://www.bsmotoring.com/video_detail.php?video_id=56 This was sent by Ian Drysdale. The guy who builds V8 bike engines from sport bike cylinders/rods/pistons with bottom ends of his own construction. "www.drysdalev8.com" ECO Dan Greensboro NC From mjcantwe at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 01:19:50 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:19:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I didn't hear a thing he said, all I heard was how professional he sounded. From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Tue Apr 13 01:23:02 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:23:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - VRS & V22 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BC38F36.7906.2B548F88@localhost> > On 4/12/10, Erik Hoet wrote: > > A great article on the V22, and a great explanation of "vortex ring > > state" (which contributed to a V22 crash back in > > > http://www.aviationtoday.com/rw/training/military/Adapted-from-The- > > Dream-Machine-The-Untold-History-of-the-Notorious-V-22-Osprey_67218 > > .html > > THNX Erik. There still ARE test pilots with the "right stuff" that go > close to and into the "here be dragons" regions to find out where they > really are, and how to extricate oneself. > > Also interesting that the V22 DOES have a "black box" for when BAD > things happen. > Great article. The V22 looks so cool in the plane mode. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From earle.bare at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 01:31:47 2010 From: earle.bare at gmail.com (Earle Bare) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:31:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Michael Cantwell wrote: > I didn't hear a thing he said, all I heard was how professional he sounded. Scary indeed:) Earle Bare West Chester, PA From rsorens at comcast.net Tue Apr 13 01:48:49 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:48:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] TESTING, 1, 2, 3..... Message-ID: No, really.....I figured I'd ask someone (someones?) who have opinions on everything: My motor shut off on the PA TPK the other day. Was kinda able to get it started, but it felt as if it wasn't getting fuel. I figure a clogged fuel filter and will get on, BUT: Who can offer a safe way to check the fuel pump....just in case. All help appreciated, TIA Rick Sorensen R1150GS - Pseudo Adventure "TEKKI" - 'iron knight' R1150GS "KANKU III" - 'to view the sky' -------------------------------------------- "Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing often and for the same reason." Mark Twain From rsorens at comcast.net Tue Apr 13 01:52:33 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:52:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] An auspicious start 310 miles today In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <21CA8E971F0D437B8B564C1A2B7EC84F@Tekki> >Our group logged about 2,000 miles running down to Summit Point and back. Subtract Rick Sorensen's tow truck ride for a more accurate number:) Hmmmm, I WAS riding (Linda's bike), just 'cause it didn't register on the odometer....... From gary5410 at aol.com Tue Apr 13 01:55:30 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:55:30 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCA8C387C7D047-1E68-6419@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> Jack is the MAN! Gary Christman '07 R1200 GS Adventure From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 01:56:22 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:56:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] TESTING, 1, 2, 3..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/12/10, Rick Sorensen wrote: > My motor shut off on the PA TPK the other day. Was kinda able to get it > started, but it felt as if it wasn't getting fuel. I figure a clogged fuel > filter and will get on, BUT: > Who can offer a safe way to check the fuel pump....just in case. Turn on the ignition and does it do the Moronic press up? More risk. Disconnect the return to tank line. Route it to some largish container. Then power up the FP via the fuse (likely 6) and see how it does about dumping fuel out of the tank. More involved. Put a pressure guage in the supply line, and again run the FP via the fuse and see what the pressure is. Note, that if the line blew off the pump or FF internally, the tank will DRAIN via the supply line if the line is disconnected with no shut off valve. Normally it will NOT drain cause the pump will not pass the fuel. HTH. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From rsorens at comcast.net Tue Apr 13 02:11:07 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:11:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] TESTING, 1, 2, 3..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > Who can offer a safe way to check the fuel pump....just in case. > >Turn on the ignition and does it do the Moronic press up? > >More risk. Disconnect the return to tank line. Route it to some largish container. Then power up the >FP via the fuse (likely 6) and see how it does about dumping fuel out of the tank. > >More involved. Put a pressure gauge in the supply line, and again run the FP via the fuse and see what >the pressure is. > >Note, that if the line blew off the pump or FF internally, the tank will DRAIN via the supply line if >the line is disconnected with no shut off valve. Normally it will NOT drain cause the pump will not >pass the fuel. Update: I swapped tanks from the other GS....started right up. I know that tells me nothing about the FP or filter, Sorry, Brian, I do not understand. Please speak slowly and clearly, so I can understand. ;-p Rick From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 02:18:45 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:18:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] TESTING, 1, 2, 3..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/12/10, Rick Sorensen wrote: > >Note, that if the line blew off the pump or FF internally, the tank will > DRAIN via the supply line if > >the line is disconnected with no shut off valve. Normally it will NOT > drain cause the pump will not > >pass the fuel. > > > Update: I swapped tanks from the other GS....started right up. I know that > tells me nothing about the FP or filter, Oh, yes it does. You lost an internal connection. The QDs shut off flow. Take off the supply line from the plate and I bet you will be draining the tank. Then you know a tank entrance is needed. Or take it to Tom and he can put a new filter, needed hoses and about surely clamps on for you. > Sorry, Brian, I do not understand. Please speak slowly and clearly, so I can > understand. ;-p Take the "dead tank" to Tom. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motoedde2 at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 02:47:54 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:47:54 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen venting and wiring. In-Reply-To: References: <4BC2C0BC.25579.282E0400@localhost> <8CCA8563DA5275E-2AC8-6AA1@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Wayne Woodruff wrote: >> EXACTLY! >> Just vented into the box of the floor joists....meaning went nowhere! >> Pretty much useless! > > My in-laws requested that I add an exhaust fan to their master > bathroom. ?The builder didn't think one was necessary because the > bathroom has a window. ?I guess back then, maybe the code did not > require it. > > While I was up there, I located the exhaust fan for the other > bathroom. ?Same deal. ?No vent line. ?The exhaust vented directly into > the blown-in insulation. I added a vent line for that since I was up > there. ?Amazing how lazy some builders can be. This funny enough may depend on the verbage of your local code. If you local code specifies that the venting needs to be done outside a living space of exhaust outside...then an attic with an attic vent could suffice;) Depends on how your building inspector views that! Heck sometimes when the attic is large enough and has ventilation, you can get away with it. BUT if it explicitly states in your local code that the venting has to terminate outdoors, then the vent has to terminate outdoors....nevertheless what the IRC and local code agreed to when the venting is installed is the hand your dealt with, unless a contractor was truly being lazy. -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Tue Apr 13 03:13:08 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:13:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! In-Reply-To: <8CCA8C387C7D047-1E68-6419@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> References: Message-ID: <4BC3A904.6398.2BB95DBD@localhost> > Jack is the MAN! > > Gary Christman > '07 R1200 GS Adventure > Jack, You were smooth as silk. Great job. It appears that he mac-pac is way ahead of of typical corporate policy for travel. I am sure everyone will show up on Sunday at the PFD on a different motorcycle. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From jerrycline at hotmail.com Tue Apr 13 03:54:56 2010 From: jerrycline at hotmail.com (Jerry Cline) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:54:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: WOW!! Jack I never been exposed to your "professional" persona. Another dimension of Riepe - I kept waiting for the punch line.. Jerry Cline 610 457 5757 mailto:jerrycline at hotmail.com > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:34:05 -0400 > From: earle.bare at gmail.com > To: mac-pac-l at jtan.com > Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! > > The audio is not available yet and I only caught the last 10 seconds > of the story when I heard "Jack Riepe of the Association of Corporate > Travel Executives" > > More at: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125866582 > > Earle Bare > West Chester, PA > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 04:26:16 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 00:26:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ducduede, you thought the Honda had petite parts Message-ID: These are Italian PETITE PARTS!!! http://www.motoscalatarrago.com/AGUSTA_SQUALO.htm (WS will take a WHILE To load. All the thumbnails are downloaded full size, and massaged on your computator.) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Tue Apr 13 04:31:20 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 00:31:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! References: Message-ID: <04f701cadac2$2aabe760$4001a8c0@FastHP> < References: <04f701cadac2$2aabe760$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: Thank you for your kind remarks and for acting shocked and surprised that anybody with the slightest credibility would ask me about anything. In truth, I am always amazed when it happens too. I must advise all of you that a prominent ladie's magazine recently asked me for six paragraphs defining the perfect, sensitive, foreplay. I am only cognizant of the Irish kind, which starts with the man saying, "Brace yourself, Bridget." -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From daviddenesowicz at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 10:01:41 2010 From: daviddenesowicz at gmail.com (David Denesowicz) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:01:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I promise to not embarrase you and tell your mother your real occupation. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Earle Et Al: > > Yes, that was me. I am occasionally called upon to step up to the > plate and solve one of the business travel industry's major problems. > In this episode, my opinion was sought on the wisdom of cramming a > nation's Commander in Chief, the head of the army, the head of the > navy, the head of the central bank, and 26 legislators into an aging > Tupelov 154, and flying off into the fog. I wouldn't have done it. I > am amazed when there are witnesses to what I do for a living. My > mother thinks I am a piano player in a whore house. > > Thanks for mentioning this, Earle. > > -- > Fondest regards, > Jack > The Lindbergh Baby > West Chester, Pa > > "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... But you still > have to be nice to them, at first." > ? My Mother, Rita Riepe > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- David Denesowicz Box 212 Malvern, PA 19355 215-850-7061 daviddenesowicz at gmail.com '79 R100/7 "You have to go out, you don't have to come back" From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Tue Apr 13 11:33:23 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:33:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ducduede, you thought the Honda had petite parts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4BC41E43.17310.2D835C2F@localhost> > These are Italian PETITE PARTS!!! > > http://www.motoscalatarrago.com/AGUSTA_SQUALO.htm > (WS will take a WHILE To load. All the thumbnails are downloaded full > size, and massaged on your computator.) > BMW too! http://www.motoscalatarrago.com/BMW-R-32a.htm Amazing stuff. When I was looking at the thumbnails I thought they were of a resoration. It was not until I noticed a hand holding the frame did I figure out it was a model. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From ephoet at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 12:48:27 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 08:48:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen venting and wiring. In-Reply-To: References: <4BC2C0BC.25579.282E0400@localhost> <8CCA8563DA5275E-2AC8-6AA1@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: The reference you want is the International Building Code, specifically the Int'l Mechanical Code. Most communities have ended up adopting that standard, esp here in PA. Check your local township or city code enforcement website or office. In particular Chapter 4, Ventilation (2003 edition) Table 403.3 "Required Outdoor Ventilation" for private residences requires Toilet Rooms & Bathrooms ---- Mechanical Exhaust Capacity of 50 CFM intermittent or 20 CFM continuous (per person, which is "one" typically) However there is a caveat: note g Transfer air permitted in accordance with 403.2.2 403.2.2 Transfer Air "... air transferred form occupied spaces in not prohibited from serving as makeup air for required exhaust systems in such spaces as kitchens, baths, toilet rooms, elevators and smoking lounges......." I believe this means you don't have to have direct outdoor make air to say the bathroom..... which makes sense. You can pull air from the rest of the building, which is what happens in most cases where a residential exhaust fan is installed. Make-up air is indirect, via leakage, infiltration etc.in older homes. In a very new, well sealed house, that can be a problem..... and the latter section of that paragraph requires some sort of intentional outdoor make up air. HTH Erik Hoet West Chester From gary5410 at aol.com Tue Apr 13 13:33:59 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:33:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] my company got published! Message-ID: <8CCA9251BACEA80-54FC-B8D4@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com> Hey, my company, Christman's Septic Service, got published in the April issue of Onsite Installer Magazine......... http://www.onsiteinstaller.com/editorial/view/2762/Rehab-for-the-Rehabilitators The owners of this property were so pleased with our work, they have asked us to come down to Phiily area to do some problem solving/expanding of another facility. It's way out of our territory.......but GOOD work, so we'll do it! Too bad I didn't get Jack to write the story.....would have added a little spice! Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From motoedde2 at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 13:50:58 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:50:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Honda Unveils Electric Moto Message-ID: Pretty interesting... http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424052702303695604575181512503429520-lMyQjAxMTAwMDEwMzExNDMyWj.html -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From chrisjac at ptd.net Tue Apr 13 16:17:06 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:17:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] my company got published! In-Reply-To: <8CCA9251BACEA80-54FC-B8D4@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA9251BACEA80-54FC-B8D4@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BC49902.1080807@ptd.net> Gary Christman wrote: > Hey, my company, Christman's Septic Service, got published in the April > issue of Onsite Installer Magazine......... > > http://www.onsiteinstaller.com/editorial/view/2762/Rehab-for-the-Rehabilitators > > > > Congrats on the public presence....you shall now find that people will keep the article and call you because you were published when they need septic work. That's what happened to my biz when the Morning Call did an article on powerwashing years ago. Chris Jaccarino From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 16:56:49 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:56:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! In-Reply-To: References: <04f701cadac2$2aabe760$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: > > Thank you for your kind remarks and for acting shocked and surprised > that anybody with the slightest credibility would ask me about > anything. In truth, I am always amazed when it happens too. I must > advise all of you that a prominent ladie's magazine recently asked me > for six paragraphs defining the perfect, sensitive, foreplay. I am > only cognizant of the Irish kind, which starts with the man saying, > "Brace yourself, Bridget." Jack, Would you be interested in an appearance on Comedy Central TV Network?? No, I'm not kidding. Dano From chrisjac at ptd.net Tue Apr 13 17:00:23 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:00:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! In-Reply-To: References: <04f701cadac2$2aabe760$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: <4BC4A327.5080600@ptd.net> Dan Whitfield wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > >> Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: >> >> Thank you for your kind remarks and for acting shocked and surprised >> that anybody with the slightest credibility would ask me about >> anything. In truth, I am always amazed when it happens too. I must >> advise all of you that a prominent ladie's magazine recently asked me >> for six paragraphs defining the perfect, sensitive, foreplay. I am >> only cognizant of the Irish kind, which starts with the man saying, >> "Brace yourself, Bridget." >> > > > Jack, > > Would you be interested in an appearance on Comedy Central TV Network?? > > No, I'm not kidding. > > Dano > He sure is. Sign him up and we'll bring him in. Chris Jaccarino. From earle.bare at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 17:56:48 2010 From: earle.bare at gmail.com (Earle Bare) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:56:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MOA Mileage Contest stats TODAY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Wayne Woodruff wrote: > Record your mileage!! ?NOW > > Form is here if you don't have the one from the magazine. > > http://www.bmwmoa.org/files/misc/BMWMOA_MILEAGE_2010_start.pdf > > Gerry Cavanaugh normally collects them on behalf of the club. Anyone know how we made out last year? I never heard the recap. What issue of MOAN was it in? Thanks, Earle Bare West Chester, PA From jack.riepe at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 18:07:45 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:07:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! In-Reply-To: References: <04f701cadac2$2aabe760$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: I'd be thrilled. What do I have to do? Call me 610-719-8396 -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From chrisjac at ptd.net Tue Apr 13 18:11:31 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:11:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! In-Reply-To: References: <04f701cadac2$2aabe760$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: <4BC4B3D3.4060300@ptd.net> Jack Riepe wrote: > I'd be thrilled. What do I have to do? > > Oh man, what an opportunity! Chris Jaccarino From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Tue Apr 13 18:36:49 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:36:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MOA Mileage Contest stats TODAY References: Message-ID: <053b01cadb38$47cc18d0$4001a8c0@FastHP> > Form is here if you don't have the one from the magazine. > > http://www.bmwmoa.org/files/misc/BMWMOA_MILEAGE_2010_start.pdf > > Gerry Cavanaugh normally collects them on behalf of the club. Anyone know how we made out last year? I never heard the recap. What issue of MOAN was it in? Its in the April issue. You were 17th highest for the state. Marge From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Tue Apr 13 18:38:29 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:38:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hermy's Trip Message-ID: <053f01cadb38$83326550$4001a8c0@FastHP> I will be riding to Hermy's tomorrow (Wednesday) afternoon. Anybody need anything? I can bring it to the breakfast on Sunday Marge From pasegc at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 18:37:49 2010 From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:37:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MOA Mileage Contest stats TODAY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Earle Bare wrote: > > > Anyone know how we made out last year? ?I never heard the recap. ?What > issue of MOAN was it in? April issue of ON, page 86 starts the report. Pennsylvania report is on page 96. We had 122 riders from PA of which 60 some where from Mac-Pac. PA state mileage was a total of 953,770 miles. Again we came in behind Wisconsin as they had 165 finishers and a total of 1,368,628 miles. I am pleasantly surprised that I have received several forms from past entrantants. Need to keep this up. If you have a BMW and need to join MOA do so immediately and get me your form. I have received a letter from another club in PA and they are just now getting interested in putting a hurt on Wisconsin. We will not be alone. Please everyone join in on the fun. Ride safe, ride long. Gerry Cavanaugh Coatesville, PA From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 21:44:00 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:44:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: BMW electric Mini takes a lap of the Nurburgring Message-ID: http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/04/electric-mini-nurburgring/ Apparently it did well. Not heavily modified either. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From piechota at argolis.org Tue Apr 13 22:01:52 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:01:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: BMW electric Mini takes a lap of the Nurburgring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BC4E9D0.4080806@argolis.org> Brian Curry wrote: > http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/04/electric-mini-nurburgring/ > Apparently it did well. Not heavily modified either. > Yeah, that's not a bad time. But Sabine Schmitz could almost do that in a van! This has been around before, but it's so much fun. Lead in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQJKQjXpGQA Actaul laps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KiC03_wVjc (Top gear, WS, about 12 minutes total) (Part 2, 1:20, she passes a bike, hahahaha) From mrmevans at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 23:31:20 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:31:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Hops on the Move Message-ID: I came out of my office today and was startled to see large brewing vats, supplies and equipment being toted across Rte 113 in Kimberton/Phoenixville under police escort. The Sly Fox Brew Pub, host location for one or more MAC-PAC dinners in the past, is in the process of moving across the street. I knew the move was coming. The question of when is now answered for me. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From Buzbiker1 at aol.com Wed Apr 14 00:43:31 2010 From: Buzbiker1 at aol.com (Buzbiker1 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:43:31 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Paging Message-ID: <10bdf.47984eeb.38f669b3@aol.com> Paging Dave Back!! Dave, Call me or email me. Thanks, Buzz Buzz Davis 337 Beaumont Road Devon, PA. 19333 610-574-0927 buzbiker1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100413/385ee828/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Apr 14 00:55:03 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] It appears that Rogers George's FB account got hacked||Fwd: HELP!!!... Message-ID: This just came in. This is the latest scammer special. So, if you happened to be in Rogers address book Heads Up that it is 99% scam likely. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Rogers George Date: Apr 13, 2010 8:48 PM Subject: HELP!!!... To: Hi, How you doing? We made a trip to London (United Kingdom) unannounced some days back,Unfortunately we got mugged at gun point last night! All cash, Credit card and phone were stolen, we got messed up in another country, stranded in London, fortunately passport was -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Apr 14 01:03:57 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:03:57 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] It appears that Rogers George's FB account got hacked||Fwd: HEL... Message-ID: <8d0c.368bf61a.38f66e7d@aol.com> Brian, let's communicate with who ever knows the truth about this we can get the real story. Roddy. In a message dated 4/13/2010 8:55:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bmwbrian at gmail.com writes: This just came in. This is the latest scammer special. So, if you happened to be in Rogers address book Heads Up that it is 99% scam likely. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Rogers George Date: Apr 13, 2010 8:48 PM Subject: HELP!!!... To: Hi, How you doing? We made a trip to London (United Kingdom) unannounced some days back,Unfortunately we got mugged at gun point last night! All cash, Credit card and phone were stolen, we got messed up in another country, stranded in London, fortunately passport was -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100413/8302a4aa/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Apr 14 01:08:52 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:08:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] It appears that Rogers George's FB account got hacked||Fwd: HEL... In-Reply-To: <8d0c.368bf61a.38f66e7d@aol.com> References: <8d0c.368bf61a.38f66e7d@aol.com> Message-ID: TRIM Roddy. On 4/13/10, Braveirwin at aol.com wrote: > Brian, let's communicate with who ever knows the truth about this we can get the real story. Roddy. > > > In a message dated 4/13/2010 8:55:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bmwbrian at gmail.com writes: > This just came in.? This is the latest scammer special.? So, if you > happened to be in Rogers address book Heads Up that it is 99% scam > likely. I expect Rogers will show up. However, pending that just what do you suggest doing? Hopefully NOT sending money. This EXACT wording has been extensively reported as a Scam. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA?? | Brian Curry??????????|??????Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER"????????|??????Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts?? |??????Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA?? |??????http://www.nsevideos.com From tpcutter at aol.com Wed Apr 14 01:10:54 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:10:54 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] my company got published! In-Reply-To: <8CCA9251BACEA80-54FC-B8D4@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA9251BACEA80-54FC-B8D4@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CCA986778B5D78-1350-321B@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> Hey, my company got published, too! (again!) May 2010 issue of Motorcycle Consumer News, pages 23-25 "How-To: BMW Paralever Pivot Maintenance and Upgrade" --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? From wateredg at interlog.com Wed Apr 14 01:28:32 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:28:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] It appears that Rogers George's FB account gothacked||Fwd: HELP!!!... References: Message-ID: <84955FDD309A42AAA64E83E6CDC02C06@9200c> Hello Brian, From: "Brian Curry" > This just came in. This is the latest scammer special. So, if you > happened to be in Rogers address book Heads Up that it is 99% scam > likely. [...] Yes, it's one of the many Facebook scams going around. Other scams will result in having legitimate Facebook accounts sending emails, via automated software, to all those on your Friends List, suggesting they try some product or service that the account-holder endorses. The most frequent way to "hack" someone's Facebook account is to send them an email, which appears to original from Facebook, giving them some line about why they have to go to Facebook (account validation required, your account has been compromised so you should change your password now, someone sent you an email -- click here to view it, etc), with a link that *looks* like it's to Facebook, but actually takes you to a fake Facebook site that collects the user ID and password that you volunteer. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Apr 14 01:28:38 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:28:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] It appears that Rogers George's FB account got hacked||Fwd: HEL... In-Reply-To: References: <8d0c.368bf61a.38f66e7d@aol.com> Message-ID: On 4/13/10, Brian Curry wrote: > On 4/13/10, Braveirwin at aol.com wrote: > > Brian, let's communicate with who ever knows the truth about this we can get the real story. Roddy. I just called the beautiful state of Delaware and spoke to Rogers George _THERE_. Not in London. He has some log in issues now for good measure. He is getting busy scanning and changing passwords. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Apr 14 01:29:36 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:29:36 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] my company got published! Message-ID: In a message dated 4/13/2010 9:34:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gary5410 at aol.com writes: The owners of this property were so pleased with our work, they have asked us to come down to Phiily area to do some problem solving/expanding of another facility ============================================= Looks like a really thorough job, Gary. I think we need one about that size at the farm; a lot of bullshit goes down there. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100413/a1105fbe/attachment.html From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Apr 14 01:32:53 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:32:53 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] It appears that Rogers George's FB account got hacked||Fwd: HE... Message-ID: In a message dated 4/13/2010 9:28:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bmwbrian at gmail.com writes: I just called the beautiful state of Delaware and spoke to Rogers George _THERE_. Not in London. He has some log in issues now for good measure. He is getting busy scanning and changing passwords. ==================================================== Sorry, but the only words that come to mind are "predator bastards". Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100413/43da79ff/attachment.html From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Apr 14 01:45:03 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:45:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] It appears that Rogers George's FB account got hacked||Fwd: HELP!!!... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4BC4E5DF.30158.308F137A@localhost> WOW! That is some effective scam. I am going through my mind how the mac-pac is going to pull together to help Rogers out. Wow. Ride Safe, Joe > This just came in. This is the latest scammer special. So, if you > happened to be in Rogers address book Heads Up that it is 99% scam > likely. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Rogers George > Date: Apr 13, 2010 8:48 PM > Subject: HELP!!!... > To: > > > Hi, > > How you doing? We made a trip to London (United Kingdom) > unannounced some days back,Unfortunately we got mugged at gun point > last night! All cash, Credit card and phone were stolen, we got > messed up in another country, stranded in London, fortunately > passport was > --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From Braveirwin at aol.com Wed Apr 14 01:49:57 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:49:57 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] It appears that Rogers George's FB account got hacked||Fwd: HEL... Message-ID: In a message dated 4/13/2010 9:46:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us writes: WOW! That is some effective scam. I am going through my mind how the mac-pac is going to pull together to help Rogers out. Wow. ======================================================== How about we trace the hacker and we all show up at his door? Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100413/30f6d97a/attachment.html From piechota at argolis.org Wed Apr 14 02:36:53 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:36:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] my company got published! In-Reply-To: <8CCA986778B5D78-1350-321B@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA9251BACEA80-54FC-B8D4@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com> <8CCA986778B5D78-1350-321B@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BC52A45.6080608@argolis.org> Tom Cutter wrote: > Hey, my company got published, too! (again!) > > May 2010 issue of Motorcycle Consumer News, pages 23-25 "How-To: BMW > Paralever Pivot Maintenance and Upgrade" Saw that! Better have a bunch of those kits in stock. :) From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 21:50:53 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:50:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Earle Bare wrote: > The audio is not available yet and I only caught the last 10 seconds > of the story when I heard "Jack Riepe of the Association of Corporate > Travel Executives" > > More at: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125866582 > > Earle Bare > West Chester, PA ------ Must have been a Polish joke! -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 21:54:04 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:54:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Iwo Jima....post invasion Message-ID: For WWII buffs Odd the 5th Marine Division didn't get credit for doing the work to let the air corps have a place to land... Very hazardous flight operations..... Iwo Jima click below: http://tinyurl.com/ykt7v6j -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 13:48:03 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:48:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] my company got published! In-Reply-To: <8CCA9251BACEA80-54FC-B8D4@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA9251BACEA80-54FC-B8D4@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Gary Christman wrote: > Hey, my company, Christman's Septic Service, got published in the April > issue of Onsite Installer Magazine......... > > http://www.onsiteinstaller.com/editorial/view/2762/Rehab-for-the-Rehabilitators > (SNIP) > > Too bad I didn't get Jack to write the story.....would have added a > little spice! > > Gary Christman > '07 R 1200 GS Adventure > _______________________________________________ Nice story, Gary. Consider yourself lucky that Jack wasn't involved. He would have called the effluent "shit." -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Wed Apr 14 02:18:42 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:18:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] my company got published! In-Reply-To: <8CCA986778B5D78-1350-321B@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA9251BACEA80-54FC-B8D4@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com> <8CCA986778B5D78-1350-321B@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Tom: I saw the article and read every word and didn't understand any of it. I'm so glad you work on my motorcycle. I feel so secure - akin to Clint East.wood with an Automag. BMW-Dick. On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Tom Cutter wrote: > Hey, my company got published, too! (again!) > > May 2010 issue of Motorcycle Consumer News, pages 23-25 "How-To: BMW > Paralever Pivot Maintenance and Upgrade" > > > -- > Tom Cutter > Yardley, PA > http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com > > ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick From 440props at gmail.com Wed Apr 14 03:38:12 2010 From: 440props at gmail.com (Robert Atkinson) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:38:12 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Iwo Jima....post invasion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <993696ec5ae6225eec6f6300513f5f82@gmail.com> On Apr 12, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Dick wrote: > Odd the 5th Marine Division didn't get credit for doing the work to > let the air corps have a place to land... The American plan of attack was relatively straightforward. The 4th and 5th Marine Divisions were to land on the southeastern beach and initially focus on securing Mount Suribachi, the southern airfields and the west coast. Once this was completed, the line, reinforced by the 3rd Marine Division, would swing and advance to the northeast. HTH" -- Semper Fidelis, Robert Atkinson MCL Dept. Scholarship Committee AFSA # A332512 MCL # 072980 346-LIFE 3RD MARDIV Assn. LIFE MBR 9-11136 MODD PDD 82-272 PLM 619 From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Wed Apr 14 13:04:08 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:04:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! In-Reply-To: References: <04f701cadac2$2aabe760$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Jack Riepe wrote: > I'd be thrilled. What do I have to do? > Call me 610-719-8396 First write a kickass standup comedy routine (see typical Comedy Central stand up routine to get an idea of time on stage which is short) which could contain stuff you already have written or new. Then perform and record it before an enthusiastic audience (say Mac-Pac monthly dinner at wherever there is a stage and lighting). (Maybe dye your hair teal with streaks of dark orange.) Third get the guy with the power to decide what goes on the air to view the recording. You would definitely bring a new style and point of view to the table (and get a chance to infomercial your book). Anyone else with connections or ideas, please share!! Dano From Doug at pencader.com Wed Apr 14 13:32:26 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:32:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Captain Jack on NPR?!?! In-Reply-To: References: <04f701cadac2$2aabe760$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: <001e01cadbd6$eeab79e0$cc026da0$@com> Dano wrote: >>> snips > First write a kickass standup comedy routine (see typical Comedy > Central stand up routine to get an idea of time on stage which is > short) which could contain stuff you already have written or new. >>> snips > Anyone else with connections or ideas, please share!! >>> end Dano, Good ideas! Here's another one - how about Breg Dickstein as his straight-man, ala Jerry Hubbard (Fred Willard) in a Fernwood Tonight scenario! With a format like that, most of the "slightly off center" membership from MacPac would fit right in as regular guests. Jack, don't miss out on this opportunity of a lifetime. You might even find yourself back on NPR! Best to all, Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From ephoet at gmail.com Wed Apr 14 15:47:51 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:47:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Iwo Jima....post invasion In-Reply-To: <993696ec5ae6225eec6f6300513f5f82@gmail.com> References: <993696ec5ae6225eec6f6300513f5f82@gmail.com> Message-ID: > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Dick wrote: > >> Odd the 5th Marine Division didn't get credit for doing the work to >> let the air corps have a place to land... > > The American plan of attack was relatively straightforward. The 4th and > 5th Marine Divisions were to land on the southeastern beach and > initially focus on securing Mount Suribachi, the southern airfields and > the west coast. Once this was completed, the line, reinforced by the > 3rd Marine Division, would swing and advance to the northeast. ? HTH" > -- As Bob quoted, the Marines did get credit. Not sure why you would say they didn't , Dick More at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Iwo_Jima What the photos do demonstrate is the importance of the real estate, where "location, location, location" is the primary concern: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Iwo_Jima#Strategic_importance What Pratt did not know or disclose, was the need to take Iwo Jima for delivery of the atomic bomb. ..... ...... In all, 2,251 B-29 landings on Iwo Jima were recorded during the war.[33] Moskin records that 1,191 fighter escorts and 3,081 strike sorties were flown from Iwo Jima against Japan.[34] erik h From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Wed Apr 14 16:23:17 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Iwo Jima....post invasion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <45243540.10988111271262197585.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >As Bob quoted, the Marines did get credit. Not sure why you would >say they didn't , Dick One organization that does not get a lot of credit for any of the invasions is the Coast Guard. But in times of war they were under the Department of the Navy and in charge of all of the landing craft and landing craft tenders. My Uncle was a radio operator during WWII in the Coast Guard. Navy guys would poke fun until he would tell them how he had to be one of the last ones off of two sinking ships, one at Guadalcanal and one at Iwo Jima. Coast Guard ships where also involved in the D-Day invasion as well. My father got luck and served on a CG Patrol Frigate at the end of the war patrolling between San Fransisco and Hawaii. They did manage to pick up many downed flyers, and took a few off of subs that had picked them up further out. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From doehler at verizon.net Wed Apr 14 18:48:07 2010 From: doehler at verizon.net (Dave Oehler) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:48:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MOA Mileage Contest stats TODAY References: Message-ID: Sorry to miss you guys at PTFD. I am leaving with in the hour for the Iron Horse Lodge for a 4 day weekend. Form is in the mail! Stay Safe!! Dave O From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Apr 14 23:15:11 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:15:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] (Fwd) 90s pics Message-ID: <4BC6143F.27191.3C7541@localhost> Very nice R90s pictures from the R90s list. Enjoy! ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Hi to you all the other day I had some nice pics taken of my bike by a friend of mine who is a professional photographer...for some of the shots , he mounted his camera to his bike and I had to ride very close the the rear of his bike ......good fun in tight corners hope you enjoy http://www.owenhowells.com/photo_5793741.html ------------------------------------ Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From Doug at pencader.com Thu Apr 15 00:04:44 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:04:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Bike for Sale Message-ID: <00a501cadc2f$433104a0$c9930de0$@com> Gang, As you may know, I am the proud owner of an '01 1150 GSP, a manly steed, indeed. It is one of the 50 "tribute" authority bikes originally intended for the NYPD in tribute to the fallen officers of 9-11. It is a great bike - I just had my 60K service done on it, and it seems to just keep running like it did when I first got it back in 2004. Anyway, you tend to not see too many of them around - I have only seen two others - one at a some event down at Bob's in Jessup, and the other one is actually owned by my buddy, Paul (Tonto, according to Ken Bruce.) But alas, Paul goes through bikes like Dick goes through boulders, like Jim through Jersey barricades, or like Dave Case through corners - well, OK, maybe not. Point is, he's SELLING IT! Here's the scoop on it, this is a direct copy of the email he sent me. Feel free to contact him directly, his number's at the bottom of his "ad". You can also feel free to email me off-list, or call me directly as well (302/838-7838). >>>>>>>>>>>> As you are aware my R1150GSP is for sale, the following is a description and list of extras. Please pass this along to the MACPAC. Really clean Black 1150GSP with 15,800 miles, ABS brakes, heated hand grips, factory center stand with skid plate, BMW system side and top cases, top case has moulded back est installed, lowered exhaust to accomodate the full size side case, Kathy bag liners, oil cooler guard, tank bag, headlight covers, PIAA 510 fog lights, engine skid plate, tubular Adventure engine bars, quick disconnect fuel lines, Cee Bailey windshield with Tobinator, 2 additional powerlets ( one up front and one in rear), rocker cleated footpegs, tank knee pads, side stand base enlarger, new tension assembly, new battery last year, had 12,000 mile service at Bobs BMW, Metzler Tourance tires with 75% tread left. Anyone interested can reach me at 302-463-3551. $7,895.00 Thanks, Paul >>>>>>>>>>>> Best to all, Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From charlesdscott at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 00:17:35 2010 From: charlesdscott at gmail.com (Charles Scott) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:17:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1965 R27 for Sale Message-ID: At Chadds Ford Classic Motorcycle Auction this Sunday: http://www.myclassicmotorcycle.com/index_files/Page1078.htm Full disclosure: I'm the one selling the R27. Regards. Charles Scott West Chester, PA From gary5410 at aol.com Thu Apr 15 00:55:02 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:55:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] (Fwd) 90s pics In-Reply-To: <4BC6143F.27191.3C7541@localhost> References: <4BC6143F.27191.3C7541@localhost> Message-ID: <8CCAA4D6A327072-1264-3CB5@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com> Great pics, beautiful bike! Gary Christman '07 R1200 GS Adventure -----Original Message----- From: Joe Dille Very nice R90s pictures from the R90s list. Enjoy! ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Hi to you all the other day I had some nice pics taken of my bike by a friend of mine who is a professional photographer...for some of the shots , he mounted his camera to his bike and I had to ride very close the the rear of his bike ......good fun in tight corners hope you enjoy http://www.owenhowells.com/photo_5793741.html ------------------------------------ Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 01:36:12 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:36:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Some random thoughts to start Thursday Message-ID: 1. I think part of a best friend's job should be to immediately clear your computer history if you die. 2. Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you're wrong. 3. I totally take back all those times I didn't want to nap when I was younger. 4. There is great need for a sarcasm font. 5. How the hell are you supposed to fold a fitted sheet? 6. Was learning cursive really necessary? 7. Map Quest really needs to start their directions on #5. I'm pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood. 8. Obituaries would be a lot more interesting if they told you how the person died. 9. I can't remember the last time I wasn't at least kind of tired. 10. Bad decisions make good stories. 11. You never know when it will strike, but there comes a moment at work when you know that you just aren't going to do anything productive for the rest of the day. 12. Can we all just agree to ignore whatever comes after Blue Ray? I don't want to have to restart my collection...again. 13. I'm always slightly terrified when I exit out of Word and it asks me if I want to save any changes to my ten-page research paper that I swear I did not make any changes to. 14. "Do not machine wash or tumble dry" means I will never wash this -- EVER!!! 15. I hate when I just miss a call by the last ring (Hello? Hello? Damn it!), but when I immediately call back, it rings nine times and goes to voicemail. What'd you do after I didn't answer? Drop the phone and run away? 16. I hate leaving my house confident and looking good and then not seeing anyone of importance the entire day. What a waste. 17. I keep some people's phone numbers in my phone just so I know not to answer when they call. 18. My 4-year old son asked me in the car the other day, "Mom, what would happen if you ran over a ninja?" How the hell do I respond to that? 19. I think the freezer deserves a light as well. 20. I disagree with Kay Jewelers. I would bet on any given Friday or Saturday night more kisses begin with Bud Lites than Kay. 21. And finally...Have you ever wondered if that dollar bill your holding has ever been in a strippers butt crack? You are now... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From gary5410 at aol.com Thu Apr 15 01:54:23 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:54:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Neighbor's R 1150 R for sale In-Reply-To: <8CCA4C0A548252F-1F94-2F25@webmail-m022.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA4C0A548252F-1F94-2F25@webmail-m022.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CCAA55B4F2B418-1264-4653@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com> TRADED....He got $4900 for on trade.......DAMN ! That was a NICE ride for $4900 bucks! <<-----Original Message----- From: Gary Christman To: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Sent: Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:24 pm Subject: Neighbor's R 1150 R for sale My neighbor is selling his '03 R 1150 R 19K miles, yellow and blue. Has Sargent front seat, brand new rear tire (put on today), several wind screens, BMW tank bag, factory panniers and some kind of soft bag.? Wants $5000, if no takers he will trade-in on a 2009 or 2010 Moto Guzzi Stelvio in the next couple weeks. I know his bike, bought 2nd hand from Hermy's, runs great!? Anyone interested can email me or Craig. his email is cccp at ptd.net? ? Gary Christman? '07 R 1200 GS Adventure>>? ? From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Thu Apr 15 02:27:13 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:27:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Trip to Hermy's Message-ID: <005001cadc43$28c8ac80$4001a8c0@FastHP> Beautiful day for a ride up to Hermy's for my 600 mile check up. They seemed fairly busy although I called only the day before to get the appointment. I lucked out because they had also received a recall on my bike. It had to do with a breather tube that if you go through deep water the water gets into the fuel? I think someone mentioned this a month or more ago. But now it is official for 2010 F650. I hope my bike enjoys the BMW oil because this is the last BMW oil it will have. Next time it gets the normal stuff. I knew it would be expensive but $14/qt? The only other charges were for "OFD" and a "crush washer" which I have no idea what they are. The labor was more per hour that the labor on the airplane. But inspite of my complaining I knew it would be expensive before I decided to have it done. Marge From piechota at argolis.org Thu Apr 15 02:38:44 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:38:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Neighbor's R 1150 R for sale In-Reply-To: <8CCAA55B4F2B418-1264-4653@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCA4C0A548252F-1F94-2F25@webmail-m022.sysops.aol.com> <8CCAA55B4F2B418-1264-4653@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BC67C34.2060404@argolis.org> Gary Christman wrote: > TRADED....He got $4900 for on trade.......DAMN ! That was a NICE ride > for $4900 bucks! I already have one of those. :) From mrmevans at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 02:48:44 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:48:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Some random thoughts to start Thursday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > ?1. I think part of a best friend's job should be to immediately clear > your computer history if you die. > a.k.a. Porn Buddies - when two guys agree that if one of them should die, the other's first course of action would be go to the deceased's home and immediately delete computer history and remove any know porn collection before family/others discover it. Used in a sentence - JAck and Dick are porn buddies. I first heard this years ago on a Britich sitcom called "Coupling". Can also be found here: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=porn+buddy -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From piechota at argolis.org Thu Apr 15 03:08:31 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:08:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Some random thoughts to start Thursday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BC6832F.8040400@argolis.org> Michael Evans wrote: > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Brian Curry wrote: >> 1. I think part of a best friend's job should be to immediately clear >> your computer history if you die. >> > > a.k.a. Porn Buddies - when two guys agree that if one of them should > die, the other's first course of action would be go to the deceased's > home and immediately delete computer history and remove any know porn > collection before family/others discover it. Used in a sentence - JAck > and Dick are porn buddies. > > I first heard this years ago on a Britich sitcom called "Coupling". Cool, another Coupling fan (I assume). The tough part is when you buddy doesn't give you any of the passwords and uses a stupid NVIDIA fake-raid setup so none of the password reset boot disks work. From piechota at argolis.org Thu Apr 15 03:09:23 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:09:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Bike for Sale In-Reply-To: <00a501cadc2f$433104a0$c9930de0$@com> References: <00a501cadc2f$433104a0$c9930de0$@com> Message-ID: <4BC68363.708@argolis.org> Doug wrote: > As you are aware my R1150GSP is for sale, the following is a description and > list of extras. Please pass this along to the MACPAC. Really clean Black > 1150GSP with 15,800 miles, ABS brakes, heated hand grips, factory center > stand with skid plate, BMW system side and top cases, top case has moulded > back est installed, lowered exhaust to accomodate the full size side case, > Kathy bag liners, oil cooler guard, tank bag, headlight covers, PIAA 510 fog > lights, engine skid plate, tubular Adventure engine bars, quick disconnect > fuel lines, Cee Bailey windshield with Tobinator, 2 additional powerlets ( > one up front and one in rear), rocker cleated footpegs, tank knee pads, side > stand base enlarger, new tension assembly, new battery last year, had 12,000 > mile service at Bobs BMW, Metzler Tourance tires with 75% tread left. Anyone > interested can reach me at 302-463-3551. $7,895.00 So. Very. Tempting. From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 03:28:20 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:28:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Trip to Hermy's In-Reply-To: <005001cadc43$28c8ac80$4001a8c0@FastHP> References: <005001cadc43$28c8ac80$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: > $14/qt? ?The only other charges were for ?"OFD" and a "crush washer" which I > have no idea what they are. ?The labor was more per hour that the labor on > the airplane. > > But inspite of my complaining I knew it would be expensive before I decided > to have it done. > > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Marge I'm guessing that OFD is code for Oil-Fluids-Disposal. Dano From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 04:13:12 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 00:13:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Robots are becoming AMAZING. Message-ID: Look at what this one can do in high speed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KxjVlaLBmk IMO the toss and catch is AMAZING. This is where the work is being done: http://www.k2.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/index-e.html http://www.k2.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/papers/fusion_movies-e.html It is in Japan. The site does not use the "funky font" that many Asian sites use. And I suspect it was tweaked by a native English speaker. Lotsa good info. And they warn you when you are heading to a Japanese site. Both WS. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Apr 15 04:15:18 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 00:15:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Some random thoughts to start Thursday In-Reply-To: <4BC6832F.8040400@argolis.org> References: Message-ID: <4BC65A96.27243.14F3A48@localhost> > Michael Evans wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Brian Curry > > wrote: > >> 1. I think part of a best friend's job should be to immediately > >> clear > >> your computer history if you die. > >> > > > > a.k.a. Porn Buddies - when two guys agree that if one of them should > > die, the other's first course of action would be go to the > > deceased's home and immediately delete computer history and remove > > any know porn collection before family/others discover it. Used in a > > sentence - JAck and Dick are porn buddies. > > > > I first heard this years ago on a Britich sitcom called "Coupling". > > Cool, another Coupling fan (I assume). > That is a fantastic show. Kind of a PG-13 version of Friends. Too bad there are so few episodes. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 04:41:20 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 00:41:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] How WI continues to whup PA in the MOA mileage contest. Message-ID: I just got this private note and had to share!! ====================== Note from behind the Cheddar Curtain: Wisconsin riders have been wondering how we got to be #1 as well. It's too damned cold to ride & you can't go very far east or your hat floats ... I only have 60 -70 miles, so far ... ====================== So, obviously the answer is that it is a Communist plot..... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From tbyrum at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 04:54:58 2010 From: tbyrum at gmail.com (Tom Byrum) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:54:58 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Mac-pac-l Digest, Vol 4, Issue 52 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:44 PM, wrote: > > I just got this private note and had to share!! > ====================== > > Note from behind the Cheddar Curtain: > > Wisconsin riders have been wondering how we got to be #1 as well. > It's too damned cold to ride & you can't go very far east or your hat floats ... > > I only have 60 -70 miles, so far ... > ====================== Pfft, did you get that note two months ago? It's beautiful out here (nice 60 degree night right now) and I've already put on a thousand miles since I brought the bike out three weeks ago. (It's about 3-4 hours west or north to get to good riding, oh well) I've had the bike 18 months and just turned 18,000 miles. If I bump the pace up a little I'll hit my goal of running the mileage out of the warranty before the time. Cheers, Tom B '09 F800GS Lake Villa, IL From Braveirwin at aol.com Thu Apr 15 10:31:33 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 06:31:33 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1965 R27 for Sale Message-ID: <4ada7.76664f6e.38f84505@aol.com> In a message dated 4/14/2010 8:18:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, charlesdscott at gmail.com writes: Full disclosure: I'm the one selling the R27. ================================ I'm curious. What percentage do you have to give up for the benefit of their advertising? And does the buyer need to pay a buyer's premium? How much is that? Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100415/6e57a0cf/attachment.html From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 11:50:47 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:50:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1965 R27 for Sale In-Reply-To: <4ada7.76664f6e.38f84505@aol.com> References: <4ada7.76664f6e.38f84505@aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 6:31 AM, wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/14/2010 8:18:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > charlesdscott at gmail.com writes: > > Full ?disclosure: I'm the one selling the R27. > ================================ > > I'm curious. What percentage do you have to give up for the benefit of > their advertising? And does the buyer need to pay a buyer's premium? How much > is ?that? ?Roddy. > -------------- next part -------------- Here u b, Mister Roddy: http://www.myclassicmotorcycle.com/ The Chadds Ford Classic Motorcycle Auction is held at William H. Bunch Auctions and Appraisals, located 1/4 mile south of the Route 202 and Route 1 intersection on Route 202. Easy access from Route 95 from New Jersey, New York and minutes from Philadelphia and Wilmington, Delaware. To sell your motorcycle or collection, call John Lawless at (484) 678-6001. Click here to print registration form (Microsoft word). http://www.myclassicmotorcycle.com/index_files/CFCMA2010trifoldflyer.doc Full details on seller?s cost are on registration form. For larger collections, special discount pricing is always available. Check One: Will you be present at auction? Yes__ / No ___ Title___ Bill of sale _____ If ?Reserved?, lowest price $________ Selling Options (check one) 1) ?No Reserve? Registration $ 0. entry fee plus 10% commission _____ 2) ?Reserve? Pre-Registration $75.00 per bike before March 31, 2010 plus 10% commission.____ 3) ?Reserve? Post registration: Apri1,1 thru April 17, 2010 is $125.00. per bike plus 10% commission _____ Check here ____to allow auctioneer to accept 10% below your lowest price if bidding stops short. Sell 3 or more and save 1% per bike. Min. commission is $100.00 on any sale. We reserve the right to refuse any bikes with unreasonable reserves From mrmevans at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 12:55:50 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 08:55:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Some random thoughts to start Thursday In-Reply-To: <4BC65A96.27243.14F3A48@localhost> References: <4BC6832F.8040400@argolis.org> <4BC65A96.27243.14F3A48@localhost> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Joe Dille wrote: > > That is a fantastic show. ?Kind of a PG-13 version of Friends. ?Too > bad there are so few episodes. > > Ride Safe, > > Joe Yeah, it was on the BBC for a few seasons. At one point it was "Americanized" - they ran almost the EXACT script but with American actors. It was cancelled after airing just the first episode. I never undesrtood if that was because it 'crossed the line' too many times, or because Americans in general just didn't 'get it'. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA "I mean, where exactly do you take your socks off? My advice is to take them off right after your shoes, and before your trousers. That?s the sock gap. Miss it, and suddenly you?re a naked man in socks. No self-respecting woman will ever let a naked man in socks do the squelchy with her."--The wisdom of Jeff from Coupling From piechota at argolis.org Thu Apr 15 13:06:06 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:06:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Skeet Message-ID: <4BC70F3E.2070300@argolis.org> My boss was asking me (of all people) about skeet shooting the other day. Since I have no idea, I'm asking the MAC-PAC. Assuming a thrower, shotgun, and some pigeons, what are the rules about using them? He'd prefer to go somewhere like state game land and not have to deal with a gun club or anything like that. Basically, go out in the woods and shoot for a couple hours. Any ideas? From 321design at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 13:12:43 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:12:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Speaking of bullets... Message-ID: This may have gone out before but it?s still amazing. Very slow mo close ups of bullets striking hard stuff and exploding: the edge of steel and shearing among others. Very very cool. http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1923047 Lots of energy. -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Thu Apr 15 13:13:10 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Some random thoughts to start Thursday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1528974406.11355271271337190775.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > That is a fantastic show. Kind of a PG-13 version of Friends. Too > bad there are so few episodes. >Yeah, it was on the BBC for a few seasons. At one point it was >"Americanized" - they ran almost the EXACT script but with American >actors. It was cancelled after airing just the first episode. I never >undesrtood if that was because it 'crossed the line' too many times, >or because Americans in general just didn't 'get it'. That was a great show. You can still see episodes On Demand under BBC America. My favorite channel, says something about "American TV" The one actress (I forget the characters name) can be seen on the TV series "Leverage" good show too IMHO. Coupling had the banter factor. Everyone is witty and pithy and says exactly the right things at exactly the right moments. Kinda like hanging out with 5 or 6 Jack Riepe's. Doesn't happen all that much in real life, but it makes for good entertainment. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From jack.riepe at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 13:17:12 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:17:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Some random thoughts to start Thursday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: "Provision #21: And finally...Have you ever wondered if that dollar bill you're holding has ever been in a strippers butt crack? Well, You probably are now." I allow the dog to sniff all of my single dollar bills. When he wags his tail, that one is returned to my performance artist compensation slush fund. Fondest regards, The Lindbergh Baby From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Thu Apr 15 13:18:38 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Skeet In-Reply-To: <4BC70F3E.2070300@argolis.org> Message-ID: <2132844266.11358461271337518378.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >My boss was asking me (of all people) about skeet shooting the other >day. Since I have no idea, I'm asking the MAC-PAC. Assuming a thrower, >shotgun, and some pigeons, what are the rules about using them? He'd >prefer to go somewhere like state game land and not have to deal with a >gun club or anything like that. Basically, go out in the woods and >shoot for a couple hours. Shooting skeet in the woods is a no no, it leaves behind a lot of debris which is frowned upon, esp. in State Game lands. I am pretty sure a game warden would lock you up for skeet shooting on game lands. Fields, open fields. Large property. This is why it is generally done at gun clubs. The skeet these days are biodegradable, but it doesn't look real nice, bright orange refuse everywhere. Maybe a local farmer would let you over an unplanted field you could try that. The one gun club down the street from me is $10 a year to join. They have the little thrower shacks, seems like a really nice set up and no worries about clean up. I would highly suggest going the gun club route. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Apr 15 13:44:33 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:44:33 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Skeet In-Reply-To: <2132844266.11358461271337518378.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa. mail.comcast.net> References: <4BC70F3E.2070300@argolis.org> <2132844266.11358461271337518378.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <10623.12.181.211.35.1271339073.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > >>My boss was asking me (of all people) about skeet shooting the other >>day. Since I have no idea, I'm asking the MAC-PAC. Assuming a thrower, >>shotgun, and some pigeons, what are the rules about using them? He'd >>prefer to go somewhere like state game land and not have to deal with a >>gun club or anything like that. Basically, go out in the woods and >>shoot for a couple hours. > > > Shooting skeet in the woods is a no no, it leaves behind a lot of debris > which is frowned upon, esp. in State Game lands. I agree. Perhaps you could do it in a large farmer's field. You would need to know the right farmer. The debris is a big deal in a farm field. Again, you need the right farmer. Before I started racing Matt I used to shoot trap every other week in the summer. Great fun. (I believe Trap is easier than skeet, but I have never done skeet.) It is not very complicated. Shooting at a club is a non-event. Just show up during on of their shoot nights. You don't have to be a member. I believe one can shoot every week night in the central Bucks/Montgomery county area. Branch Valley is on Wednesday and Souderton-Harleysville is every other Friday. There are others. Show up with a gun. They can sell you 12ga shells if you need them, or you can bring your own. Watch one group go through the routine and you will get the idea. I took a guy from Japan there and he had never held a gun. He did fine. I like trap as it is fast paced and you are shooting all the time. Ride Safe, Joe From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Apr 15 13:49:40 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:49:40 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Skeet In-Reply-To: <10623.12.181.211.35.1271339073.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <4BC70F3E.2070300@argolis.org> <2132844266.11358461271337518378.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <10623.12.181.211.35.1271339073.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <12984.12.181.211.35.1271339380.squirrel@12.181.211.35> >> >>>My boss was asking me (of all people) about skeet shooting the other >>>day. Since I have no idea, I'm asking the MAC-PAC. Assuming a thrower, >>>shotgun, and some pigeons, what are the rules about using them? He'd >>>prefer to go somewhere like state game land and not have to deal with a >>>gun club or anything like that. Basically, go out in the woods and >>>shoot for a couple hours. >> >> >> Shooting skeet in the woods is a no no, it leaves behind a lot of debris >> which is frowned upon, esp. in State Game lands. > > I agree. Perhaps you could do it in a large farmer's field. You would > need to know the right farmer. The debris is a big deal in a farm field. > Again, you need the right farmer. > > Before I started racing Matt I used to shoot trap every other week in the > summer. Great fun. (I believe Trap is easier than skeet, but I have > never done skeet.) It is not very complicated. Shooting at a club is a > non-event. Just show up during on of their shoot nights. You don't have > to be a member. > > I believe one can shoot every week night in the central Bucks/Montgomery > county area. Branch Valley is on Wednesday and Souderton-Harleysville is > every other Friday. There are others. Show up with a gun. They can sell > you 12ga shells if you need them, or you can bring your own. Watch one > group go through the routine and you will get the idea. I took a guy from > Japan there and he had never held a gun. He did fine. > > I like trap as it is fast paced and you are shooting all the time. > > Ride Safe, > > Joe > Check out: http://www.shootata.com/content/ata_zones/zone.aspx?zonecode=ESTRN for a shoot near you. From rogers.george at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 14:05:29 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:05:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I'm back Message-ID: Got my account un-hacked. Don't know how they did it yet. I appreciate all the calls checking up on me. I'm also glad no one was dumb enough to send money to London--I live in DE. Of course, no one sent any money here, either... I'll be sending you quick notes as you post to the list so I can rebuild my contacts. Best wishes, Rogers George http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http:/mushroomstomotorcycles.com From bmwdick at gmail.com Wed Apr 14 12:20:44 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:20:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT But clearly Mac-Pac related Message-ID: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2929795/TWO-escaped-convicts-dodge-manhunt-by-dressing-as-sheep.html -- BMW-Dick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100414/6b9e32f7/attachment.html From jack.riepe at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 15:07:57 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:07:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I'm back In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Rogers: I sent you $2500 -- to the address in London. The return note said you'd honor my check in fresh eggs, every day for a year. Well? Now what? -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 15:32:16 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:32:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Motorbiking Skeleton Message-ID: No, this is NOT Karl Duffner http://ishare.rediff.com/video/Comedy/FUNNY-SKELETON-MOTORBIKE-RIDE/36163 (WS) Well done. Look closely at the front and you will see how it is done. THNX to Little Bob the cheesehead. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Apr 15 16:44:19 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:44:19 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT But clearly Mac-Pac related In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41947.12.181.211.35.1271349859.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2929795/TWO-escaped-convicts-dodge-manhunt-by-dressing-as-sheep.html > > -- > BMW-Dick The best comment: THE PRISON SHOULD POST A SIGN" EWE'VE BEEN BAAAAAADDD, PLEASE COME BAAAAAAAACK!" Ride Safe, Joe From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 18:01:27 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:01:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] It is not just Rogers George, Jim Ellenberg is also being hacked REGULARLY Message-ID: Second time I have gotten a note "from Jim Ellenberg" about checking out some deal. Headers look good coming from Hotmail too. Thankfully the list traps it. (The list did for Rogers too.) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From rogers.george at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 19:31:17 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:31:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I'm back In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The eggs are yours, Jack. Stop by and pick them up any time. (I sent this to Jack earlier, before I figured out all the things they had done to my account, and didn't know he had copied the list.) One thing to check for if this happens to you: They set my account to forward everything to rogerz at ymail.com and then delete it. It's in your settings if you use gmail; probably available in other email systems, too. If they hadn't set it to delete, I might not have discovered it for a long time. BTW--anybody who shows up can have some eggs. Best wishes, Rogers George http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http:/mushroomstomotorcycles.com On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Rogers: > > I sent you $2500 -- to the address in London. The return note said > you'd honor my check in fresh eggs, every day for a year. Well? Now > what? > > > -- > Fondest regards, > Jack ... From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 21:21:29 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:21:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The Icelandic volcano's plume disrupts air travel to Europe Message-ID: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/04/ash-plume-from-space/ (WS) I wonder if it filed an EIS for the sulfur and particulate discharge to the atmosphere.... (If you do the investigation and calc's people's discharges get a whole different perspective.) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwdick at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 16:20:37 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:20:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I'm back In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Jack: Start runningm On 4/15/10, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Rogers: > > I sent you $2500 -- to the address in London. The return note said > you'd honor my check in fresh eggs, every day for a year. Well? Now > what? > > > -- > Fondest regards, > Jack > The Lindbergh Baby > West Chester, Pa > > "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still > have to be nice to them, at first." > ? My Mother, Rita Riepe > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Sent from my mobile device BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 19:57:29 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:57:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT But clearly Mac-Pac related In-Reply-To: <41947.12.181.211.35.1271349859.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <41947.12.181.211.35.1271349859.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Joe Dille wrote: >> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2929795/TWO-escaped-convicts-dodge-manhunt-by-dressing-as-sheep.html >> >> -- >> BMW-Dick > > The best comment: > > THE PRISON SHOULD POST A SIGN" EWE'VE BEEN BAAAAAADDD, PLEASE COME > BAAAAAAAACK!" > > Ride Safe, > > Joe > > > That won't work. They're on the lamb! -- BMW-Dick From rogers.george at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 21:44:13 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:44:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Skeet In-Reply-To: <10623.12.181.211.35.1271339073.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <4BC70F3E.2070300@argolis.org> <2132844266.11358461271337518378.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <10623.12.181.211.35.1271339073.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: In trap shooting, you have more control over where the clay goes. For one thing, you tell them when to send it out by calling "Pull!" Skeet, you never know. Seems to me one of them requires your gun to be off shoulder before the bird is launched, too. Last did it when I was a young boy--my dad was good at both, and had a nice machine to throw them, and boxes of pigeons. Best wishes, Rogers George http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http:/mushroomstomotorcycles.com On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Joe Dille wrote: >> >>>My boss was asking me (of all people) about skeet shooting the other >>>day. Since I have no idea, I'm asking the MAC-PAC. Assuming a thrower, >>>shotgun, and some pigeons, what are the rules about using them? He'd >>>prefer to go somewhere like state game land and not have to deal with a >>>gun club or anything like that. Basically, go out in the woods and >>>shoot for a couple hours. >> >> >> Shooting skeet in the woods is a no no, it leaves behind a lot of debris >> which is frowned upon, esp. in State Game lands. > > I agree. ?Perhaps you could do it in a large farmer's field. ?You would > need to know the right farmer. ?The debris is a big deal in a farm field. > Again, you need the right farmer. > > Before I started racing Matt I used to shoot trap every other week in the > summer. ?Great fun. ?(I believe Trap is easier than skeet, but I have > never done skeet.) ?It is not very complicated. ?Shooting at a club is a > non-event. ?Just show up during on of their shoot nights. ?You don't have > to be a member. > > I believe one can shoot every week night in the central Bucks/Montgomery > county area. ?Branch Valley is on Wednesday and Souderton-Harleysville is > every other Friday. ?There are others. ?Show up with a gun. ?They can sell > you 12ga shells if you need them, or you can bring your own. ?Watch one > group go through the routine and you will get the idea. ?I took a guy from > Japan there and he had never held a gun. ?He did fine. > > I like trap as it is fast paced and you are shooting all the time. > > Ride Safe, > > Joe > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Apr 15 22:01:31 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:01:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] V8 Beemer Message-ID: <4BC7547B.19469.51F5E1B@localhost> Check this out. This guy made a V8 engine from two 4-cylinder engines and then put it in an R65. The second video is the better of the two. http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/04/15/bmw-with-694cc-homemade- v8-engine/ The sound is fantastic. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From jhw4458 at verizon.net Thu Apr 15 22:04:44 2010 From: jhw4458 at verizon.net (Clyde Jacobs) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:04:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - skeet, trap, sporting clays, 5 stand & wobble trap Message-ID: <1EE173A3-4CF9-4055-9A0A-7CA0D774C00F@verizon.net> Hi- If you have questions you can call me Ph 484-832-1682, I shoot all of the above. Do not know where you live but Oxford Gun CLub is one of the best all around clubs and no membership is necessary. oxfordgunclub.org/ From piechota at argolis.org Thu Apr 15 22:19:30 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:19:30 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] V8 Beemer In-Reply-To: <4BC7547B.19469.51F5E1B@localhost> References: <4BC7547B.19469.51F5E1B@localhost> Message-ID: <4BC790F2.2010808@argolis.org> Joe Dille wrote: > Check this out. This guy made a V8 engine from two 4-cylinder > engines and then put it in an R65. The second video is the better of > the two. > > http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/04/15/bmw-with-694cc-homemade- > v8-engine/ > > The sound is fantastic. That is so much cooler than a a Boss Hoss, or even Das Hoss (that crazy BMW V8 thing). I'm confused about calling it a cross-plane crankshaft. Aren't all V8s cross plane? I took a quick look at a Chevy Small Block crank shaft (at summitracing.com) and it looks like there's a journal every 90 degrees. Am I confused? From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Apr 16 01:08:00 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:08:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] V8 Beemer In-Reply-To: <4BC790F2.2010808@argolis.org> References: <4BC7547B.19469.51F5E1B@localhost> Message-ID: <4BC78030.3354.5CA19B8@localhost> > Joe Dille wrote: > > Check this out. This guy made a V8 engine from two 4-cylinder > > engines and then put it in an R65. The second video is the better > > of the two. > > > > http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/04/15/bmw-with-694cc-homemade > > - v8-engine/ > > > > The sound is fantastic. > > That is so much cooler than a a Boss Hoss, or even Das Hoss (that > crazy BMW V8 thing). I'm confused about calling it a cross-plane > crankshaft. > Aren't all V8s cross plane? I took a quick look at a Chevy Small > Block crank shaft (at summitracing.com) and it looks like there's a > journal every 90 degrees. Am I confused? > There are two ways to make a V8 crankshaft. The "normal" way is the cross plane, like the small block. it has inherently good balance. A "flat" V8 crank can be made lighter and is used for racing as it spins up faster. I believe Ferrari uses a flat crank. A better explanation is at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossplane Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From Braveirwin at aol.com Fri Apr 16 02:04:57 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:04:57 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1965 R27 for Sale Message-ID: <82573.c85d5b8.38f91fc9@aol.com> In a message dated 4/15/2010 7:51:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ephoet at gmail.com writes: Here u b, Mister Roddy: ========================================= Thank you, Erik. I should have asked you first, of course. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100415/14bf9fae/attachment.html From Braveirwin at aol.com Fri Apr 16 02:16:21 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:16:21 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Skeet Message-ID: <82e88.67408b7b.38f92275@aol.com> In a message dated 4/15/2010 9:07:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, piechota at argolis.org writes: Any ideas? ============================================================ As I understand it, Skeet is a formal set up of targets being sent out from different directions in a strictly laid out range. If your friend wants to just get some experience shooting at some clay pigeons, he is welcome to come to my farm and blast away for an hour or so. I have a few boxes of clay pigeons, a ground mounted clay bird launcher (load the clay pigeon, when you are ready, say "pull", and a friend pulls a string, the clay pigeon is sent into the sky, and you try to hit it with a shotgun blast). Sound like fun? Tell him to come on out. If there is interest, we could have a ride and shoot there at some point. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From charlesdscott at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 02:20:24 2010 From: charlesdscott at gmail.com (Charles Scott) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:20:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1965 R27 for Sale In-Reply-To: <82573.c85d5b8.38f91fc9@aol.com> References: <82573.c85d5b8.38f91fc9@aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:04 PM, wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/15/2010 7:51:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > ephoet at gmail.com writes: > > Here u b, Mister Roddy: > > ========================================= > > Thank you, Erik. I should have asked you first, of course. > > Sorry, I should have sent more information. It is to be auctioned off. If there is only one bidder, it won't go for much. The web site for the auction is: http://www.myclassicmotorcycle.com/index.htm The auction will be held in Chadds Ford, PA this Sunday. Preview Saturday. Additional Photos of the R27: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2004275&id=1201549570&l=ed81eea0bc The previous owner purchased it from the original owner in a non running state. He tried to the repair it and ended up with a rolling basket case with an additional milk crate of parts Both were stored in his basement until I bought it in 2000. It has been in my garage ever since. The last inspection sticker on the bike is from 1971, when I assume it last ran. The odometer, in the milk crate, shows 16,990. The bodywork is, as you can see, rough. I don't know what, if anything, is missing. I have it titled in my name - I had to go to the state to get it re-issued. The previous owner had lost the title. The frame and engine numbers match - both 382797. Regards. Charles Scott West Chester, PA From rsorens at comcast.net Fri Apr 16 02:37:15 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:37:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Skeet In-Reply-To: <82e88.67408b7b.38f92275@aol.com> Message-ID: >... If there is interest, we could have a ride and shoot there at some point. Roddy. Roddy; I have been interested in finding a place I could 'blast away' and have some unrestricted fun. HOWEVER, picture this: a bunch of coffee addled mac-pac'rs loading weapons, firing to the four compass points...totally (and typically) out of control. Ya might want to reconsider! :-{) Rick Sorensen From Braveirwin at aol.com Fri Apr 16 02:48:32 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:48:32 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Skeet Message-ID: <846d5.57668ca5.38f92a00@aol.com> In a message dated 4/15/2010 10:37:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rsorens at comcast.net writes: HOWEVER, picture this: a bunch of coffee addled mac-pac'rs loading weapons, firing to the four compass points...totally (and typically) out of control. Ya might want to reconsider! :-{) ================================================= Rick, thanks for the advice. I may be naive but I was sitting here trying to think of a Mac-Pac'r who wouldn't be able to rise to the seriousness of handling a loaded gun among friends and I drew a blank. I trust that all would go well with some good planning and some very strictly enforced rules. Roddy. You are welcome to come out on your own any time. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100415/dac2518f/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 03:52:34 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:52:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So you need something to do with the money you loaned Uncle Sam coming back to you Message-ID: here is some helping.... http://raresportbikesforsale.com/ (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 04:05:48 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 00:05:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So you REALLY wanted an electric Norton back in 1975 but could not afford it? Message-ID: Now here is your chance for a BRAND NEW ONE. http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/black-side-down-new-nortons-found-in-belgium.aspx (WS) I would not expect a lot of warranty service on any issues that come up though. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Apr 16 10:18:35 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 06:18:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So you REALLY wanted an electric Norton back in 1975 but could not afford it? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 00:05:48 -0400, you wrote: >Now here is your chance for a BRAND NEW ONE. > >http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/black-side-down-new-nortons-found-in-belgium.aspx >(WS) > >I would not expect a lot of warranty service on any issues that come up though. Wow, 11 of them! I see several of them have starting bids of 3900 Euro, which is ~$5200. Here's your chance to own a leaker! W Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From rollybrown at verizon.net Fri Apr 16 12:40:07 2010 From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:40:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So you REALLY wanted an electric Norton back in 1975 but could not afford it? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EB6185B-2C2B-4ABF-AA9F-603BA9F0E2DF@verizon.net> On Apr 16, 2010, at 6:18 AM, Wayne Woodruff wrote: > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 00:05:48 -0400, you wrote: > >> Now here is your chance for a BRAND NEW ONE. >> >> http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/black-side-down-new-nortons- >> found-in-belgium.aspx >> (WS) >> >> I would not expect a lot of warranty service on any issues that >> come up though. > > Wow, 11 of them! > > I see several of them have starting bids of 3900 Euro, which is > ~$5200. > > Here's your chance to own a leaker! Now, if I had spare money, that would be GENUINELY tempting!! Cheers, Rolly Rolly Brown Sellersville PA www.rollybrown.com www.myspace.com/rollybrown From Doug at pencader.com Fri Apr 16 12:44:44 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:44:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So you REALLY wanted an electric Norton back in 1975 but could not afford it? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01ba01cadd62$99a39ad0$ccead070$@com> Wayne wrote; >>> snips > Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] So you REALLY wanted an electric Norton back in 1975 but could not afford it? > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 00:05:48 -0400, you wrote: >> Now here is your chance for a BRAND NEW ONE. >> >> http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/black-side-down-new-nortons-found-in-belgi um.aspx >> (WS) >> >> I would not expect a lot of warranty service on any issues that come up though. > Wow, 11 of them! > I see several of them have starting bids of 3900 Euro, which is > ~$5200. > Here's your chance to own a leaker! >>> end Wayne, Back in the early 70's when I was in college and an aspiring hippie, I had two buddies that were house-sitting a place "out in the country" for a professor on sabbatical. My one buddy brought his Norton Commando out there and used to ride it around the house and through the fields. On one extremely exuberant run, he augured it into a huge rose bush in front of the house at speed. I think he must've gone through a coupla' pounds of Nature's best contemplating how to get it out of there! Far as I know, it's still there. Thanks for the memories, Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From dbcase at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 13:32:07 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:32:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] How WI continues to whup PA in the MOA mileage contest. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Brian Curry wrote: > > Wisconsin riders have been wondering how we got to be #1 as well. > It's too damned cold to ride & you can't go very far east or your hat floats ... > Interesting. Those same climactic and geographic conditions exist for Wisconsin. Why the surprise? Dave Case Lansdale, PA From jhw4458 at verizon.net Fri Apr 16 14:12:29 2010 From: jhw4458 at verizon.net (Clyde Jacobs) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:12:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jay & BMW S1000RR Message-ID: www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/clips/2010-bmw-s-1000-rr/1212959/ From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Apr 16 14:17:17 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:17:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] UPDATE: Ride for the Record, Ride for the Cure Message-ID: <85AFBF3C72994CA5B4C7889B5B33FB65@dellfe483b726d> Ride for the Record, Ride for the Cure, May 2nd Fellow Riders, I didn't want to say anything to anyone, but I have been sitting somewhat on the edge of my seat the past several weeks. Although the submission of application for an attempt on the Guinness World Record was a fairly smooth process, there was no guarantee that our record setting attempt would be accepted. I was told that GWR receives over 1000 applications each week for processing and it would take approximately one month before there would be a ruling on acceptance. Well, ....................we passed the test! It's official and this event will be a legitimate attempt at a new GWR, but we are not done. Bob Jones, proprietor of MCC, is very satisfied with the feedback he is receiving so far and is very confident, but I am not done campaigning. I will continue to make calls and post emails to friends and riding clubs/organizations and I hope all of you will do the same. Laura and I have rounded up a bunch of our riding friends and got them hooked up with some of our spare bikes and many of you have also graciously volunteered to do the same! Our friend "Crazy Wayne" is riding up from southern Maryland and bringing a couple of riding friends with him. Some may recall that Wayne is the fellow who purchased Rolly Brown's beautiful metallic red '84 R100RS a few years ago. GWR is very demanding with the verification process. I could hire an adjudicator at the cost of several hundreds dollars/pounds, but decided to do it the old fashion route by submitting sign-up/registration sheets, newspaper articles, videos, DVD's, etc. This is where I could use some help/assistance. The sign-up sheets will need to be verified and witnessed by independent, prominent members of the community such as the Mayor, Chief of Police, District Justice, Notary Public, News Editor, Eagle Scout or Bar Tender. Jack Riepe told me he has held all of these positions at one time or another, but since he is participating in this event, there would be a conflict of interest. So, if any of you know of someone who would qualify and wouldn't mind attending, I would appreciate that very much. I have an old friend who is a retired Lieutenant from one of the local police departments, but I could use one or two other witnesses. I was informed that head cheerleader would not be a qualified candidate. Also, we will need some video assistance as part of the verification process. Anyone who is not riding and can help in providing video I would appreciate their help. I will reimburse those for any Tapes/DVD's used in the filming. Jack Riepe and Tailgunner Dick Bregstein will be the Officers in Charge of Sign-up/Registration, but they could use the assistance of four more volunteers. They had mentioned something about a preference for those wearing leather skirts and rubber shirts, but you better check with them. More info to come plus I plan on attending the breakfast at PFD on Sunday. Thanks for your participation and assistance. Regards, Todd Trumbore From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 14:23:05 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:23:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: On this date during WW II the Swiss were busy Message-ID: Good thing they were not busy killing people. Some benefited from that work. http://www.wired.com/thisdayintech/2010/04/0416hofmann-discovers-lsd (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Apr 16 14:25:11 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:25:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Guinness World Records Acceptance....it's official Message-ID: Claim ID: 299863 Membership Number: 263693 Dear Mr. Todd Trumbore, Thank you for your enquiry regarding your intention to attempt the record for 'Largest parade of BMW motorcycles'. The current record (current as at the date of this letter) is: The largest parade of BMW motorcycles consisted of 241 motorcycles and was organized by Grass Roots BMW Motorcycles (all USA) in Cape Girardeau, Missouri, USA, on 26 September 2009. You may wish to check with us again closer to submitting your full claim to be sure that a new record has not been set in the interim. Please note that any current record information is provided to you to the best of Guinness World Records knowledge and belief as at the date of this letter and is based on the record information currently logged on the Guinness World Records database. This current record may change at any time due to a new record being approved. You are responsible for keeping yourself up to date with any new records as Guinness World Records will not inform you of any change to the current record. We have attached specific Guidelines for this record category which detail the requirements you must follow to make your record attempt. You should ensure that all those participating and those witnessing the attempt are aware of the contents of these Guidelines. We would also draw your attention to the specific authentication we require when you come to make your claim for this particular category. This is in addition to the general authentication requirements as detailed in the Record Breakers Pack also included with this email. These Guidelines will be appropriate for achieving a Guinness World Record as at the date of this letter. However, please be aware that as and when required, the Guidelines may be updated by us from time to time and without further notice to you. Using the Guinness World Records T or logo is a great way to help promote your attempt. If you are interested in using our logo and trademarks during your record event, please log in the website, select the appropriate claim number and click on 'Use our logo'. Once the record has been attempted and you have compiled your claim and completed the Agreement Regarding Supporting Materials which you will find in the attachment, all the information should be sent to us here at: GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS LIMITED 3rd Floor 184-192 Drummond Street London NW1 3HP UNITED KINGDOM. Please ensure that your Claim ID (above) is clearly marked on your package and all documentation. It is possible to hire an adjudicator to verify your record attempt on site. If you want to request the attendance of an official World Record representative, please log in the website, select the appropriate claim number and click on 'Request an adjudicator'. If you should require any further information, do not reply to this email, but please visit and log into our website, select the appropriate claim number and then click on 'Make an Enquiry'. We will only be able to reply to enquiries regarding any of your pending claims, so if you want to enquire about a new record, please make another application. Please be aware that all tracking information about your claim is updated every 24 hours. Now that you have received our specific guidelines and Record Breakers' Pack you can proceed with the preparations for your event and then with the record attempt itself. We hope the attempt goes well and look forward to hearing from you in the future. Yours sincerely, Kristian Teufel Guinness World Records From Doug at pencader.com Fri Apr 16 14:58:50 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:58:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jay & BMW S1000RR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01d401cadd75$54e38730$feaa9590$@com> Clyde wrote; >>> snips > Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jay & BMW S1000RR > www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/clips/2010-bmw-s-1000-rr/1212959/ _______________________________________________ >>> end Clyde, Thanks for that link, Clyde - another great segment from Jay's Garage - seems to me he is doing everything he can with his resources to acquire and preserve ANYTHING to do with motorsports. That said, it never occurred to me to throw a leg over one of these fantastic machines as I expected it to be too small to accommodate my girlish figure. But after seeing Leno on one, I'm now willing to give it a try! Make mine black. Thanks again for the post, Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From motoedde2 at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 15:07:02 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:07:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jay & BMW S1000RR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Clyde Jacobs wrote: > www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/clips/2010-bmw-s-1000-rr/1212959/ Interesting review...I wonder if the electronic controls will dumb down the ride experience/skill set development to ride a sport bike? Its as if they're saying...buy this thing...go out and become a speed racer...it will protect you from doing a lot of noob things...and ultimately bring a lot more virgins to the track? Which in turn could make track even more dangerous? -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 15:37:07 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:37:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT:I wonder if this accessory is available for bikes? Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BqcEXObOvU (WS) Using the cell on the bike is tougher though. For some reason this video is not available at the Nitro site. http://nitro.com/video/ You can thank the Troglodyte for the tickler. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Fri Apr 16 15:37:54 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:37:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] How WI continues to whup PA in the MOA mileage contest. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1051512180.11897361271432274886.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > > Wisconsin riders have been wondering how we got to be #1 as well. > It's too damned cold to ride & you can't go very far east or your hat floats ... I see it as a matter of pure numbers. They have more people competing, hence higher numbers. The Mac-Pac carries PA to the #2 spot, if you took all of us out PA would have pathetic numbers. We need to get other organizations in the state to do what we do if PA ever wants to beat WI. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 15:52:09 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:52:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Special Request for Mac Pac Breakfast Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Colleagues and Friends: A photographer will be accompanying me to the Mac Pac monthly breakfast this weekend to assist Gerry Cavanaugh in a special project. We need about 75 to 100 classy BMW motorcycles to show up ? with riders who have their MOA Mileage Contest Forms in hand. Your participation is critical to the credibility of this club, which is pretty much a dicey thing on the best of occasions. Participants in this project should look sober, respectable, and enthusiastic. We are also looking for a length of washing machine hose and water-boarding equipment to be used in incentive photographs. Breakfast will start at 8am, and the pictures will be staged at 9:15am. Those who show up with their forms will have their names dropped into a drawing for a Twisted Roads Tee shirt and perhaps a bonus gift. Please zap me back if you plan on participating in this grand commemorative picture. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From bradjacoby at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 16:01:12 2010 From: bradjacoby at gmail.com (Brad Jacoby) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:01:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Special Request for Mac Pac Breakfast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Participants in this project should look sober, respectable, and > enthusiastic. Jack, I'd love to show up for this, but you're going to need to lower that bar a bit. Brad Jacoby Bethlehem PA 2008 R1200RT From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 16:31:08 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:31:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] How Did I survive My Early Riding Years? Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: I have no idea how I survived my early riding years. Details: http://jackriepe.blogspot.com/2010/04/my-first-moto-joint.html -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 16:39:53 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:39:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Just how many ways can this go bad... Message-ID: IMO, I need to start taking off my shoes cause I run out of fingers. http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/so_a_man_in_plain_clothes_and_an_unmarked_car_cuts_you_off_and_pulls_a_gun.html http://www.abc2news.com/news/local/story/Motorcyclist-Charged-for-Recording/pfFRVeEePU6qFr5fAq-tlA.cspx It is becoming obvious THEY can record you. Now you can't record them. Sure tilts the "he said, he said" tables a lot. Oh, and so much for a "public place" being a "public place". -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wateredg at interlog.com Fri Apr 16 16:49:06 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:49:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: WAY cool use of computer technology Message-ID: <48B01DD23D7E4D569233881F3525ECE6@9200c> Hello everyone, http://www.rationalcraft.com/Winscape.html -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From brian at whatever2k.com Fri Apr 16 17:20:59 2010 From: brian at whatever2k.com (Brian Burdette) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:20:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Just how many ways can this go bad... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BC89C7B.9000503@whatever2k.com> On 04/16/2010 12:39 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > IMO, I need to start taking off my shoes cause I run out of fingers. > > http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/so_a_man_in_plain_clothes_and_an_unmarked_car_cuts_you_off_and_pulls_a_gun.html > > http://www.abc2news.com/news/local/story/Motorcyclist-Charged-for-Recording/pfFRVeEePU6qFr5fAq-tlA.cspx > > It is becoming obvious THEY can record you. Now you can't record > them. Sure tilts the "he said, he said" tables a lot. > > Oh, and so much for a "public place" being a "public place". What was the rider doing that justified this anyway? i just watched the whole video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7PC9cZEWCQ and I just don't see anything that justifies the gun in the first place. If that happened to me, I'd presume that I was being bike-jacked. That cop is an idiot. -- Brian Burdette -- brian at whatever2k dot com -- Pleasant Hill MO, USA From mrmevans at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 17:26:06 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:26:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dick Is Moving Up in the Google Search Results Message-ID: I just did a quick image seach (for a work project) using only the terms "Macungie, PA", and in the resulting image thumbnails I saw this one: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/txFVi8HEGWIBJMj3C8zzJA I recognized that right away. Way to market yourself Dick! -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From piechota at argolis.org Fri Apr 16 17:37:08 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:37:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jay & BMW S1000RR In-Reply-To: <01d401cadd75$54e38730$feaa9590$@com> References: <01d401cadd75$54e38730$feaa9590$@com> Message-ID: <4BC8A044.1020801@argolis.org> Doug wrote: > That said, it never occurred to me to throw a leg over one of these > fantastic machines as I expected it to be too small to accommodate my > girlish figure. But after seeing Leno on one, I'm now willing to give it a > try! > > Make mine black. It's not *that* small. There's a picture of 6'2" 285-ish lbs (at the time) me on the one at Hermy's on Jack Riepe's blog. I dare say my legs are slightly less bent on the S1000 than my R1150R. http://jackriepe.blogspot.com/2010/02/breaking-free-of-winter-doldrums.html From tpcutter at aol.com Fri Apr 16 18:28:43 2010 From: tpcutter at aol.com (Tom Cutter) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:28:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: Fun Times at Thunderbolt Raceway ! In-Reply-To: <2e019f96cb39f2648d9161ac7c63c806aac.20100416181050@mcsv1.net> References: <2e019f96cb39f2648d9161ac7c63c806aac.20100416181050@mcsv1.net> Message-ID: <8CCABA9C73F3248-1158-25A8@webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com> Wayne- Can you put this up on the Mac-Pac site? --? Tom Cutter Yardley, PA http://www.RubberChickenRacingGarage.com ??q? uo p??oq??? ? ?nq ? ???? ?s?? ??? s? s??? -----Original Message----- From: Motorcycle Xcitement To: Tom Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:11 pm Subject: Fun Times at Thunderbolt Raceway ! Email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser. Fun Times at Thunderbolt Raceway ! Are you ready for some motorcycle FUN? We are ready for you! Come ride with us at the FABULOUS Thunderbolt Raceway at New Jersey Motorsports Park in Millville this Thursday, April 22. NJMP has excellent VIP Suites for rent. We return to NJMP on May 13 to ride the ultra fast Lightning Raceway. We ride this track only one time this season, so get your friends together and get the EARLY DISCOUNT and sign up now ! to reserve your spots. May 5 we ride the serpentine Shenandoah track at Summit Point. Experience the 20 turns of FUN in less than 2 miles with a banked "Karussell" and downhill corkscrew. Many riders consider this their favorite track! The speeds are lower on this technical track and you will learn better cornering skills. Set up your calendar now for the most FUN track days ! Go to www.motorcyclexcitement.com to get the details about our VIP Ticket to Ride program and the discounts for early registration, and military and Peace Corps personnel. Ride fast. Ride safe. Ride with us. Roger Lyle 301-933-2599 You are receiving this email because you expressed interest in Motorcycle Xcitement Track Days and Racing School. Unsubscribe tpcutter at aol.com from this list | Forward to a friend | Update your profile Our mailing address is: Motorcycle Xcitement, LLC 16 Redwood Circle Hagerstown, MD 21740 Add us to your address book Copyright (C) 2009 Motorcycle Xcitement, LLC All rights reserved. From chrisjac at ptd.net Fri Apr 16 18:37:32 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:37:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dick Is Moving Up in the Google Search Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BC8AE6C.3010105@ptd.net> Michael Evans wrote: > I just did a quick image seach (for a work project) using only the > terms "Macungie, PA", and in the resulting image thumbnails I saw this > one: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/txFVi8HEGWIBJMj3C8zzJA > > I recognized that right away. Way to market yourself Dick! > > Nice! From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 18:52:21 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:52:21 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dick Is Moving Up in the Google Search Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Mike: Thank you for inspiring me... Guess where that picture is heading? -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 19:03:32 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:03:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] If I had seen this at the time, I might have gotten a Lambretta instead of a Vespa Message-ID: http://pour15minutesdamour.blogspot.com/2010/04/lautre-scooter.html -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 19:07:16 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:07:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dick says this is the best boot commercial ever Message-ID: http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q5/whiterat01/myspace/?action=view¤t=e7892c8f.flv (Might have been here before. NWS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From ephoet at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 19:10:22 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:10:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Friday Funny Message-ID: Goes along with the Nitro launcher - EPH --------------- *A hooded armed robber bursts into the Bank of Italy and forces the tellers to load a sack full of cash. On his way out the door with the loot, one brave Italian customer grabs the hood and pulls it off revealing the robber's face. The robber shoots the guy in the head without hesitation! He then looks around the bank to see if anyone else has seen him. One of the tellers is looking straight at him. The robber walks over and calmly shoots him in the head. Everyone by now is very scared and looking down at the floor. "Dida anyone elsa see a my face?" calls the robber. There follows a tense silence. Then an elderly Italian gent, looking Down, tentatively raises his hand and says: "I tinka my wifa may have caughta glimpse."* From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 19:25:49 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:25:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now THIS explains a LOT w/ respect to trying to read e-mails and txts from people Message-ID: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html (WS) "The Alot is Better Than You at Everything As a grammatically conscientious person who frequents internet forums and YouTube, I have found it necessary to develop a few coping mechanisms. " -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From ephoet at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 19:31:47 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:31:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Now THIS explains a LOT w/ respect to trying to read e-mails and txts from people In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html > (WS) > > "The Alot is Better Than You at Everything > As a grammatically conscientious person who frequents internet forums > and YouTube, I have found it necessary to develop a few coping > mechanisms. " > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- That's alota crappa ............ but that does that mean that it craps-a-lot? EPH From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 19:32:50 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:32:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: A whisper from Afghanistan has returned a loud echo from Laconia, New Hampshire Message-ID: http://www.michaelyon-online.com/a-whisper.htm (WS watch out for distorted monitors while reading) "Published: 16 April 2010 By: MAJ JF Sucher, MD A singular sentence in reply to a common, simple question. A whisper from Afghanistan has returned a loud echo from Laconia, New Hampshire, a small town of 12,000 (40,000 in the summer) nestled amongst the glacial lakes in the center of the state. Dr. Sam Aldridge has practiced peripheral vascular surgery in Laconia, NH for the past 15 years based solely on a gentlemen?s handshake with Tom Clairmont, CEO of Lakes Region General Hospital, who has been a stalwart supporter of Aldridge?s military commitment. On January 15th, 2010 LTC Aldridge left for his third active duty deployment since joining the Army Reserves Medical Corps. Before leaving, Danielle Mostoller, the hospital?s PR representative, had LTC Aldridge promise to write regular updates that would be placed in the hospital?s email newsletter, which reaches 1600 people. Soon after Aldridge?s ?updates? hit the hospital newsletter, people began to respond. Danielle asked if there was anything they could send him. Maybe some care packages of snacks or books and such? LTC Aldridge, knowing that there were so many people around him that really did need something, responded with a simple request of socks for the Afghan soldiers and school supplies for the orphaned children of a nearby local village. A singular sentence. A simple whisper." SNIP -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jasiii at earthlink.net Fri Apr 16 19:56:22 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:56:22 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dick says this is the best boot commercial ever Message-ID: <9263650.1271447782505.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dick says this is the best boot commercial ever > >http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q5/whiterat01/myspace/?action=view¤t=e7892c8f.flv >(Might have been here before. NWS) > That is funny Jim James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 21:22:31 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:22:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jack to Comedy Central Project Message-ID: In case you missed it, near the end of the Jack on NPR thread, the idea was hatched to send our own Jack Reipe to Comedy Central for the rest of the world to enjoy! Jack reacted positively to this potential opportunity of a life time.I am proposing that we name this project Help Send Fatass to Comedy Central (With all due respect, like at a Fryar's Club Roast.) I emailed my contact at RickMill productions (They produce Comedy Central Specials) as to how to proceed and got this reply. from Cisco Henson to Dan Whitfield date Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:01 PM subject Re: RickMill Productions: Jack Reipe hide details Apr 14 (2 days ago) Hi Dan RickMill does not pick the talent for the series. You would have to send something into Comedy Central directly to be considered. They have a talent department that does all the scouting. Best Cisco On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Dan Whitfield wrote: This is an enquiry e-mail via http://www.rickmill.com/ from: Dan Whitfield This guy Jack Reipe is an incredibly funny new guy. How would he go about getting a shot on Comedy Central (or with you guys)? Thanks, Dan Whitfield (End of Cisco's email exchange) Anybody else have any connections with Comedy Central? Or ideas? or insight into the TV entertainment world? Or is their a better name for the project than "Help Send Fatass to Comedy Central" ECO Dano Greensboro NC From Ducdude at verizon.net Fri Apr 16 23:25:09 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:25:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT But clearly Mac-Pac related References: <41947.12.181.211.35.1271349859.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <3AC1E683F10145CB90ACA8BAEB98A7C8@heilveil5e3fdd> : >> >> THE PRISON SHOULD POST A SIGN" EWE'VE BEEN BAAAAAADDD, PLEASE COME >> BAAAAAAAACK!" >> >> Ride Safe, >> >> Joe >> > ------------------------------------------- > That won't work. They're on the lamb! > > -- > BMW-Dick Yea they are acting like Mutton Jeff.. Duc From Braveirwin at aol.com Fri Apr 16 23:56:08 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:56:08 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Special Request for Mac Pac Breakfast Message-ID: <1f72b.31752e5.38fa5318@aol.com> In a message dated 4/16/2010 11:52:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jack.riepe at gmail.com writes: Those who show up with their forms will have their names dropped into a drawing for a Twisted Roads Tee shirt and perhaps a bonus gift. Please zap me back if you plan on participating in this grand commemorative picture. ================================================ Weather does not look promising at this point. Rain or shine? Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100416/80afe462/attachment.html From Braveirwin at aol.com Sat Apr 17 00:22:25 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:22:25 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] UPDATE: Ride for the Record, Ride for the Cure Message-ID: <209a8.707c89aa.38fa5941@aol.com> In a message dated 4/16/2010 10:17:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: They had mentioned something about a preference for those wearing leather skirts and rubber shirts ====================================================== I am willing to assist with this but I aint wearin' no leather skirt or rubber shirt fer nobody. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100416/127648c0/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Apr 17 00:37:45 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: If you wondered why air travel is halted in Europe Message-ID: This is the explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_9 (WS) Loosing all FOUR engines on a Boeing 747 while in flight is not for the feint of heart. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Apr 17 00:45:15 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:45:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Does anyone here know who the "Paul" associated with this AOL address is? Message-ID: The address in question is: , which might also show up as The AOL WebUI is sending messages from that address that are "Canadian Med" spams. The message headers look right that it is really coming from the AOL WebUI. I think the person is known around here. We'd like to find a "real name" and even better a "real phone number" for them to ask about the issue. Ring any bells for anyone? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Apr 17 01:50:41 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:50:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: If you wondered why folks are loosing their manufacturing jobs, this is part of it. Message-ID: http://singularityhub.com/2010/04/05/5-axis-robot-carves-metal-like-butter-video/#more-14509 (WS) Carving a motorcycle helmet shape (I DO NOT THINK, it would have good crash properties.) out of a SINGLE block of aluminum with ONE machine. There is no swapping from a lathe to a milling machine etc. The text here also notes that while this is REMOVING metal, "printing" metal is coming. Depositing what you need, where you need it, with the strength necessary. However, the significant thing that I realized reading the text is that with machines like this, you don't need an army of people running lathes, milling machines, stamping machines etc. Skilled people running those machines too. You need a few people to load the "blanks" and a few more to carry off the finished product. There are even smaller numbers of REAL SHARP people that designed the machine(s) in the first place. Once they designed it a few more sharp people were involved in the manufacturing of this manufacturing machine but the numbers of people involved is real small. Earle Bare attended a conference up in New England and one of the speakers noted that his shop is an antique and the numbers of them are decreasing. The shops using not state of the art equipment and using HUMAN BEINGS to do stuff that can be "done" by machines now. Earle has also found the issue that the people making the fancy machines may well get rid of the people that designed, understood, built and tested them when they were "done". If something breaks on that machine getting it "fixed" can be VERY DIFFICULT cause those that have the knowledge to do it in their head are GONE. Finding equivalent people that can figure out "How it was done, the trade offs, and why some things were done some way." are NOT COMMON and so HARD TO FIND. The advancing capabilities raise some "interesting" questions and issues. And the Politician's who believe that they KNOW what it takes are well and truly clueless. With machines like this, those promised "well paying green jobs" simply don't exist. THNX to Dave Misevich for the pointer to the video and accompanying text. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Apr 17 02:08:00 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:08:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Good thing that the iPad was released for sale when it was Message-ID: otherwise Norway would be Leaderless http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/ptech/04/16/volcano.ash.norway.ipad/ (WS) Ain't technology grand... Here is another thought. When Krakatoa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krakatoa) blew back in the 1883, the world had "gorgeous" sunsets for a year due to debris in the air. (The plume is reported to have hit 50 miles up, or 250,000 feet, or flight level 250.) >From the Wikipedia article: "Average global temperatures fell by as much as 1.2 degrees Celsius in the year following the eruption. Weather patterns continued to be chaotic for years and temperatures did not return to normal until 1888." I suspect it would NOT have been good to be flying a jet anywhere in the world during that period. Or K&N woulda been REAL BUSY fitting "filter chargers" to big jet engines. I think it was during this period that a lof of the literature of the time was "dark" and depressing. Maybe due to atmospheric conditions. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From mrmevans at gmail.com Sat Apr 17 02:31:51 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:31:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: If you wondered why folks are loosing their manufacturing jobs, this is part of it. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > http://singularityhub.com/2010/04/05/5-axis-robot-carves-metal-like-butter-video/#more-14509 > (WS) > > Carving a motorcycle helmet shape (I DO NOT THINK, it would have good > crash properties.) out of a SINGLE block of aluminum with ONE machine. > ?There is no swapping from a lathe to a milling machine etc. > One thing that I've seen (and contributed to on more than one occassion) with this modern technology is the ability to design and prototype parts that CANNOT be manufactured. That's one area where the human skill level/knowledge still comes into play. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From bmwdick at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 16:05:12 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:05:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Special Request for Mac Pac Breakfast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jack: I will be there form in hand, but I'm not signing any releases for you to use pix of me. For the waterboarding hose, why not take the fuel line off of Cinnamon Balls, it doesn't get used much anyway....bada bing If you want respectability, sobriety, and enthusiam at the breakfast, you bring Leslie, Gerry bring Sue....Bada boom And, finally, I don't need no stinkin' T-Shirt. How old is the bonus prize? Bada Bing, Bada Boom BMW-Dick On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > > Dear Esteemed Colleagues and Friends: > > A photographer will be accompanying me to the Mac Pac monthly > breakfast this weekend to assist Gerry Cavanaugh in a special project. > We need about 75 to 100 classy BMW motorcycles to show up ? with > riders who have their MOA Mileage Contest Forms in hand. Your > participation is critical to the credibility of this club, which is > pretty much a dicey thing on the best of occasions. Participants in > this project should look sober, respectable, and enthusiastic. We are > also looking for a length of washing machine hose and water-boarding > equipment to be used in incentive photographs. Breakfast will start at > 8am, and the pictures will be staged at 9:15am. Those who show up with > their forms will have their names dropped into a drawing for a Twisted > Roads Tee shirt and perhaps a bonus gift. Please zap me back if you > plan on participating in this grand commemorative picture. > > -- > Fondest regards, > Jack > The Lindbergh Baby > West Chester, Pa > > "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still > have to be nice to them, at first." > ? My Mother, Rita Riepe > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 17:54:37 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:54:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: WAY cool use of computer technology In-Reply-To: <48B01DD23D7E4D569233881F3525ECE6@9200c> References: <48B01DD23D7E4D569233881F3525ECE6@9200c> Message-ID: I want one! On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Steve Makohin wrote: > Hello everyone, > > http://www.rationalcraft.com/Winscape.html > > -Steve Makohin > ?'01 R1100S/ABS > ?Oakville, Ontario, Canada > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 18:02:18 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:02:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dick Is Moving Up in the Google Search Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You had to remind me! Those Macungie Jumping Boulders are dangerous. Did you notice how the one that's covered in bike and bodily fluids jumped right back onto that lawn after jumping in the road and causing the crash? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Michael Evans wrote: > I just did a quick image seach (for a work project) using only the > terms "Macungie, PA", and in the resulting image thumbnails I saw this > one: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/txFVi8HEGWIBJMj3C8zzJA > > I recognized that right away. Way to market yourself Dick! > > -- > Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100416/1f64ea3f/attachment.html From bmwdick at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 20:43:09 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:43:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dick says this is the best boot commercial ever In-Reply-To: <9263650.1271447782505.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <9263650.1271447782505.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: I ordered the boots on line. I hope they attach the right girl. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Jim Sterling wrote: > >Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dick says this is the best boot commercial ever > > > > > http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q5/whiterat01/myspace/?action=view¤t=e7892c8f.flv > >(Might have been here before. NWS) > > > That is funny > > Jim > > James Sterling III > Ride Safe > > '96 R1100RS Red of course > MOA 124289 > RA 31244 > AMA 808881 > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100416/c7a98798/attachment.html From bmwdick at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 20:44:38 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:44:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dick Is Moving Up in the Google Search Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Mike: > > Thank you for inspiring me... Guess where that picture is heading? > > > -- > Fondest regards, > Jack > The Lindbergh Baby > West Chester, Pa > > The Family Album? -- BMW-Dick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100416/9db59c03/attachment.html From bmwdick at gmail.com Sat Apr 17 02:09:41 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:09:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jack to Comedy Central Project In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think we should name the project, Send Fatass to Comedy Central, or anywhere for. that matter. Then if CC doesn't want him we could try Guam or Qatar. On 4/16/10, Dan Whitfield wrote: > In case you missed it, near the end of the Jack on NPR thread, the > idea was hatched to send our own Jack Reipe to Comedy Central for the > rest of the world to enjoy! Jack reacted positively to this potential > opportunity of a life time.I am proposing that we name this project > > Help Send Fatass to Comedy Central > > (With all due respect, like at a Fryar's Club Roast.) > > I emailed my contact at RickMill productions (They produce Comedy > Central Specials) as to how to proceed and got this reply. > > from Cisco Henson > to Dan Whitfield > date Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:01 PM > subject Re: RickMill Productions: Jack Reipe > > hide details Apr 14 (2 days ago) > > Hi Dan > > RickMill does not pick the talent for the series. You would have to > send something into Comedy Central directly to be considered. They > have a talent department that does all the scouting. > > > Best > > Cisco > > > On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Dan Whitfield wrote: > > This is an enquiry e-mail via http://www.rickmill.com/ from: > Dan Whitfield > > This guy Jack Reipe is an incredibly funny new guy. > > How would he go about getting a shot on Comedy Central (or with you > guys)? > > Thanks, Dan Whitfield > > (End of Cisco's email exchange) > > Anybody else have any connections with Comedy Central? Or ideas? or > insight into the TV entertainment world? > > Or is their a better name for the project than > > "Help Send Fatass to Comedy Central" > > ECO Dano > > Greensboro NC > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Sent from my mobile device BMW-Dick From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Apr 17 11:02:11 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:02:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Special Request for Mac Pac Breakfast In-Reply-To: <1f72b.31752e5.38fa5318@aol.com> Message-ID: <4BC95CF3.250.D1075DD@localhost> > > > In a message dated 4/16/2010 11:52:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > jack.riepe at gmail.com writes: > > Those who show up with > their forms will have their names dropped into a drawing for a > Twisted Roads Tee shirt and perhaps a bonus gift. Please zap me back > if you plan on participating in this grand commemorative picture. > ================================================ Weather does not look > promising at this point. Rain or shine? Roddy. > The weather looks good from my PC. A tad chilly, but dry. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From Ducdude at verizon.net Sat Apr 17 11:53:32 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:53:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT But clearly Mac-Pac related Message-ID: <3B20E01685ED405D8D3CD9F450980943@heilveil5e3fdd> > THE PRISON SHOULD POST A SIGN" EWE'VE BEEN BAAAAAADDD, PLEASE COME > BAAAAAAAACK!" > > Ride Safe, > > Joe > ------------------------------------------- > That won't work. They're on the lamb! > BMW-Dick >------------------------------------------------ > > Yea they are acting like Mutton Jeff.. > > Duc > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> Now you know why I love your humor, he said sheepishly. >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> BMW-Dick > > ------------------------------- Man I cant beleave I herd that from you Dick.. I was realy hopeing to get your goat any way.. Duc From piechota at argolis.org Sat Apr 17 12:40:36 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 08:40:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Good thing that the iPad was released for sale when it was In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BC9AC44.20004@argolis.org> Brian Curry wrote: > otherwise Norway would be Leaderless > > http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/ptech/04/16/volcano.ash.norway.ipad/ > (WS) > > Ain't technology grand... Wait, he used a device over a public, unencrypted network to conduct affairs of state? Also, I'm not sure it has EU certification yet, which would make it illegal to import the device. Maybe he's renting it. :) Mildly related, don't take your ipad to Israel: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/14/ipad_banned_in_israel/ From jaburke4 at verizon.net Sat Apr 17 13:12:14 2010 From: jaburke4 at verizon.net (John Burkhauser) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 09:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Saturday Lesson of the Day Message-ID: <2198E37D-D338-4963-9BDD-432D14885B67@verizon.net> For those of us that dont wanna look stupid shopping or using tools http://www.ToolWonk.com/ From John A. Burkhauser From progress49 at comcast.net Sat Apr 17 14:10:27 2010 From: progress49 at comcast.net (Panagiotis) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:10:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Soft luggage for sale. Message-ID: Hello all, I have a set of soft luggage for sale. Rapid-Transit-Recon-77-Saddlebags. They are in excellent condition, but there is a small burn mark on the muffler side of one of the bags. They were used for a 650GS. http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/71/3419/ITEM/Rapid-Transit-Recon-77 -Saddlebags.aspx $80 and I will bring them to the breakfast. Thanks, Peter X From chrisjac at ptd.net Sat Apr 17 14:16:14 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:16:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: It truly is Amazing how Stupid can be........... Message-ID: <4BC9C2AE.9070202@ptd.net> I have ads for items for sale on Craigslist which state "item is located in Macungie, PA" yet when you get back to the person who is interested in the item their response is "I am not traveling that far". Then you tell them the ad says the location of the item is right in the and they get offended. Ok, bye, and hang up is my response. Effing morons. Some people shouldnt be allowed internet access. Ah, I feel better. Chris Jaccarino From motorrader at verizon.net Sat Apr 17 15:09:41 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:09:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] History of Communication Message-ID: Copper wire: After having dug to a depth of 10 feet last year, New York scientists found traces of copper wire dating back 100 years and came to the conclusion,that their ancestors already had a telephone network more than 100 years ago. Not to be outdone by the New Yorkers, in the weeks that followed, a California archaeologist dug to a depth of 20 feet, and shortly after, a story in the LA Times read: "California archaeologists, after finding 200 year old copper wire, have concluded that their ancestors already had an advanced high-tech communications network a hundred years earlier than the New Yorkers." One week later, a local newspaper in Ohio reported the following: "After digging as deep as 30 feet in his pasture near Findlay, OH, Bubba Brewski, a self-taught archaeologist, reported that he found absolutely nothing. Bubba has therefore concluded that 300 years ago, Ohio had already gone wireless". Buckeyes are such a proud bunch. From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Apr 17 15:47:23 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:47:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Good thing that the iPad was released for sale when it was In-Reply-To: <4BC9AC44.20004@argolis.org> References: <4BC9AC44.20004@argolis.org> Message-ID: On 4/17/10, Matt Piechota wrote: > Brian Curry wrote: > > otherwise Norway would be Leaderless > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/ptech/04/16/volcano.ash.norway.ipad/ > > (WS) > > Also, I'm not sure it has EU certification yet, which would make it illegal to import the device. ?Maybe he's renting it. :) > > Mildly related, don't take your ipad to Israel: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/14/ipad_banned_in_israel/ He's leader of the state. There ARE "diplomatic pouches" The article is interesting. Quoting from it, and the reporter may be confused: ========= The Israeli wireless standards match those of European standards. American standards, with which the iPad does comply, allow for lower wireless power levels than do the European standards. Because of this, Haaretz quotes unnamed ministry officials as saying, "the broadcast levels of the [iPad] prevent approving its use in Israel." ========= It is LOWER power which generally means less chance of interference, and they are all concerned about it? I think someone is trying to make a point. What point I have no clue. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA?? | Brian Curry??????????|??????Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER"????????|??????Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts?? |??????Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA?? |??????http://www.nsevideos.com From piechota at argolis.org Sat Apr 17 15:51:40 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:51:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Good thing that the iPad was released for sale when it was In-Reply-To: References: <4BC9AC44.20004@argolis.org> Message-ID: <4BC9D90C.3080506@argolis.org> Brian Curry wrote: > On 4/17/10, Matt Piechota wrote: >> Brian Curry wrote: >>> otherwise Norway would be Leaderless >>> >>> http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/ptech/04/16/volcano.ash.norway.ipad/ >>> (WS) > >> Also, I'm not sure it has EU certification yet, which would make it illegal to import the device. Maybe he's renting it. :) >> >> Mildly related, don't take your ipad to Israel: >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/14/ipad_banned_in_israel/ > > He's leader of the state. There ARE "diplomatic pouches" > > The article is interesting. Quoting from it, and the reporter may be confused: > ========= > The Israeli wireless standards match those of European standards. > American standards, with which the iPad does comply, allow for lower > wireless power levels than do the European standards. Because of this, > Haaretz quotes unnamed ministry officials as saying, "the broadcast > levels of the [iPad] prevent approving its use in Israel." > ========= > > It is LOWER power which generally means less chance of interference, > and they are all concerned about it? I think someone is trying to > make a point. What point I have no clue. I meant to mention that, in the comments people mention that the US standard allows for *more* power, so the reporter IS confused. Not before other people hypothesized that Israel was snooping on everyone's Wifi and required higher power. :) From kimi.bush at gmail.com Sat Apr 17 16:23:04 2010 From: kimi.bush at gmail.com (Kimi Bush) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:23:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Long-time-no-see Message-ID: Mac-Pac Friends: How's everyone doing? I feel like it's been ages since I've seen many of you and I really miss all of your beautiful faces (yes, really.) Unfortunately, I haven't been riding much lately due to all of the upheaval surrounding my recent career change and impending apartment move. In addition to slacking on my riding, I've also been kind of negligent on my MotoMarshal recruiting duties for the MS 150 Pa Dutch event. I have exactly 1 person registered to help out this year, and although he's pretty scrappy and enthusiastic, his Aprilla scooter can only be in so many places at once. Copied below you'll find my original plea and some additional details about the event and volunteer opportunity. I really really really hope you'll consider setting aside the 24th and/or 25th of July to ride around with us and get your free dose of good karma. Definitely reach out to me if you have any questions or suggestions. We need as many of you as possible! Thanks all, KB Check your calendars! July 24th and 25th will be the weekend of the MS150: PA Dutch Ride! For those of you who don't know, this is a charity bicycle event that benefits the Delaware Valley and Central PA chapters of the National Multiple Sclerosis Society. MOTORCYCLE MARSHALS are a big part of the safety and organization of the ride. This will be the third year that Corey and I are helping to plan the event and we need YOUR help to make sure that everything goes safely and smoothly on the weekend of the ride! --If you already know what I'm talking about and want to register now, use this link to get to the online registration form: (You'll need your driver's license and bike insurance info when you register.) http://main.nationalmssociety.org/padrm --If anyone participated in the past, but can't be there this year, your testimonials and help with recruitment would be very much appreciated. --If you want to help out but won't be around on the weekend of the event, we could really use your assistance with recruitment! Here's a link to flier with the information, please consider distributing and displaying this anywhere you go where motorcyclists frequent: http://bikepae.nationalmssociety.org/site/DocServer/Road_Marshal_Flyer_09.pdf?docID=38083 --If you need some more details for yourself: Saturday and Sunday July 24th and 25th (seeking volunteers for either or both days) Saturday morning the event starts at Green Lane park in Perkiomenville and ends Saturday (before dinner-time) at Millersville University The duty of a marshal includes helping bicyclists if they run into trouble (like if they need to call one of the support groups, i.e. medic, bicycle repair van, sag wagon) and also standing at various pre-determined road junctions and directing bicycle traffic (letting the cyclists know if cars are coming, etc) Instruction is given on Saturday morning, no experience is necessary, if I can do it anyone can! You get to ride a lot too. There are plenty of free snacks, lunch, and drinks throughout the day, free dinner is served sat. evening in the Millersville cafeteria. There is a nice awards ceremony at MU and there is usually free beer to be had. For those who are volunteering on both Saturday and Sunday, very nice accommodations are provided on the MU campus, also free of charge. Sunday morning the event resumes, leaving from MU campus and heading back to Green Lane park. The schedule and tasks are pretty much the same. There's more food and celebration at Green Lane when the event finishes. Bicyclists will be riding 50, 75 or 100 mile courses on each day and trust me, they really need our support and assistance to do so successfully. Thanks Everyone! Kimi Bush Kimi.bush at gmail.com 610-223-9227 From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Sat Apr 17 16:35:14 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:35:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Free - Cole 2 Drawer Metal File Cabinet (Beige Colored) Message-ID: If interested contact me off list. Jim Robinson West Chester PA From motorrader at verizon.net Sat Apr 17 16:45:12 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:45:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] UPDATE: Ride for the Record, Ride for the Cure References: <209a8.707c89aa.38fa5941@aol.com> Message-ID: In a message dated 4/16/2010 10:17:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: They had mentioned something about a preference for those wearing leather skirts and rubber shirts ====================================================== I am willing to assist with this but I aint wearin' no leather skirt or rubber shirt fer nobody. Roddy. Roddy, Your offer of assistance is commended and much appreciated ! Don't worry, Jack will be recruiting his share of Fraulein's for the welcoming committee! Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100417/b1f0188e/attachment.html From jhw4458 at verizon.net Sat Apr 17 17:02:33 2010 From: jhw4458 at verizon.net (Clyde Jacobs) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:02:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Special Request for Mac Pac Breakfast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Dick - Have you been smoking pot with Jack again? On Apr 16, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Dick wrote: Jack: I will be there form in hand, but I'm not signing any releases for you to use pix of me. For the waterboarding hose, why not take the fuel line off of Cinnamon Balls, it doesn't get used much anyway....bada bing If you want respectability, sobriety, and enthusiam at the breakfast, you bring Leslie, Gerry bring Sue....Bada boom And, finally, I don't need no stinkin' T-Shirt. How old is the bonus prize? Bada Bing, Bada Boom BMW-Dick On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > > Dear Esteemed Colleagues and Friends: > > A photographer will be accompanying me to the Mac Pac monthly > breakfast this weekend to assist Gerry Cavanaugh in a special project. > We need about 75 to 100 classy BMW motorcycles to show up ? with > riders who have their MOA Mileage Contest Forms in hand. Your > participation is critical to the credibility of this club, which is > pretty much a dicey thing on the best of occasions. Participants in > this project should look sober, respectable, and enthusiastic. We are > also looking for a length of washing machine hose and water-boarding > equipment to be used in incentive photographs. Breakfast will start at > 8am, and the pictures will be staged at 9:15am. Those who show up with > their forms will have their names dropped into a drawing for a Twisted > Roads Tee shirt and perhaps a bonus gift. Please zap me back if you > plan on participating in this grand commemorative picture. > > -- > Fondest regards, > Jack > The Lindbergh Baby > West Chester, Pa > > "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still > have to be nice to them, at first." > ? My Mother, Rita Riepe > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l -- BMW-Dick _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From jweiss11 at comcast.net Sat Apr 17 18:16:18 2010 From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:16:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Special Request for Mac Pac Breakfast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A photographer will be accompanying me to the Mac Pac monthly breakfast this weekend to assist Gerry Cavanaugh in a special project. We need about 75 to 100 classy BMW motorcycles to show up - with riders who have their MOA Mileage Contest Forms in hand. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Sorry, I won't be able to make it to breakfast, but if anyone is looking for a nice destination ride after breakfast, this weekend is the Gathering of the Norton's at Washington Crossing Park just south of New Hope. There are always some beautiful bikes there, but alas, not too many K75's. Jack Weiss From jweiss11 at comcast.net Sat Apr 17 18:27:51 2010 From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:27:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Long-time-no-see In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <133444FC0BEF48E4BD7B095135A1A355@jackde48df08c6> Mac-Pac Friends: I've also been kind of negligent on my MotoMarshal recruiting duties for the MS 150 Pa Dutch event. We need as many of you as possible! There are plenty of free snacks, lunch, and drinks throughout the day, free dinner is served sat. evening in the Millersville cafeteria. There is a nice awards ceremony at MU and there is usually free beer to be had. For those who are volunteering on both Saturday and Sunday, very nice accommodations are provided on the MU campus, also free of charge. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Yo, Free snacks and beer. I am in. Who will help me wit all that free beer? Jack Weiss R1200GSA From gary5410 at aol.com Sat Apr 17 20:29:31 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Special Request for Mac Pac Breakfast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCAC83D217E07F-F38-1A62F@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> Sorry, I won't make it......working on kitchen......I didn't pick my moto up yet from Hermy's....that way I'm not tempted! Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure -----Original Message----- From: Jack Riepe To: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:52 am Subject: [MAC-PAC] Special Request for Mac Pac Breakfast Dear Esteemed Colleagues and Friends: A photographer will be accompanying me to the Mac Pac monthly breakfast this weekend to assist Gerry Cavanaugh in a special project. We need about 75 to 100 classy BMW motorcycles to show up ? with riders who have their MOA Mileage Contest Forms in hand. Your participation is critical to the credibility of this club, which is pretty much a dicey thing on the best of occasions. Participants in this project should look sober, respectable, and enthusiastic. We are also looking for a length of washing machine hose and water-boarding equipment to be used in incentive photographs. Breakfast will start at 8am, and the pictures will be staged at 9:15am. Those who show up with their forms will have their names dropped into a drawing for a Twisted Roads Tee shirt and perhaps a bonus gift. Please zap me back if you plan on participating in this grand commemorative picture. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Apr 17 23:44:36 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 19:44:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: iPad maybe making a splash. Message-ID: http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/17/report-ipad-grabbed-0-03-percent-of-all-web-traffic-in-its-firs/ (WS) "Over the first week of the device's public availability, the report says, the iPad nabbed about 0.03 percent of all web traffic. For comparison, the iPhone averages about 0.51 percent of traffic. This number nearly matches web traffic for BlackBerrys in March -- 0.04 percent (Android grabbed up 0.07 percent, as did Windows Mobile)." Those numbers are done by sampling. So, we assume it is good. If it is consistent between devices, interesting. That it is kinda close to all the Crackberrys that have been around forever, is interesting. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jasiii at earthlink.net Sun Apr 18 00:17:41 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 20:17:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Long-time-no-see In-Reply-To: Message-ID: For what it is worth I am in.. Just did the form online. Jim -- Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Apr 18 02:26:38 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:26:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: It truly is Amazing how Stupid can be........... In-Reply-To: <4BC9C2AE.9070202@ptd.net> Message-ID: <4BCA359E.11598.105ECE1B@localhost> Ok, bye, and hang up is my > response. Effing morons. Some people shouldnt be allowed internet > access. > > Ah, I feel better. > Like the guy who comes to the plant. Interviews. Gets the offer. Takes the job. Then doesn't show up. You call and ask why they did not come. It was too far to drive every day! Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Sun Apr 18 04:42:04 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:42:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Special Request for Mac Pac Breakfast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Esteemed Colleagues and Friends: > > A photographer will be accompanying me to the Mac Pac monthly > breakfast this weekend to assist Gerry Cavanaugh in a special project. > .... Sorry, I can't make it either. An oil leak has developed, has to be fixed before I can ride. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From misevich at gmail.com Sun Apr 18 14:50:36 2010 From: misevich at gmail.com (Dave Misevich) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:50:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jamie sings at "Team Pretty in Pinckney" event Message-ID: Hi all, links to video of my 15 year old daughter Jamie performing at a breast cancer fund-raiser put on the by group "Team Pretty in Pinckney" last night. She did two songs, the first is an original called "Caught" that she wrote herself. The second is called "Old Soul". This was her first performance in front of a live audience. ?I'm so proud. :) Caught: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJYiYShgNQ8 Old Soul: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QJtoEAfkI4 From gary5410 at aol.com Sun Apr 18 14:59:28 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:59:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jamie sings at "Team Pretty in Pinckney" event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCAD1EE0993E87-13D0-1133D@webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com> .....and you should be proud......VERY COOL!!! Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure <<-----Original Message----- From: Dave Misevich TJamie sings at "Team Pretty in Pinckney" event I'm so proud. :)>> From William.Rompala at kantarmedia.com Sun Apr 18 15:16:55 2010 From: William.Rompala at kantarmedia.com (William Rompala) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:16:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: iPad maybe making a splash. Message-ID: <91378982C2FC5F4982C0B2AD8454FDCDCCFE01@EXCHANGESTORE.TNSMI-EX1.Local> " That it is kinda close to all the Crackberrys that have been around forever, is interesting." ... And remember, these iPads need to be attached to a wifi hotspot to be connected at all. It will be very interesting to see the bloom at the end of this month when the iphone style connected model is released. Will -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From wateredg at interlog.com Sun Apr 18 15:52:20 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:52:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: iPad maybe making a splash. References: Message-ID: <6137EA1A95054F86A6E3A41AB30C136A@9200c> Hello Brian, From: "Brian Curry" > http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/17/report-ipad-grabbed-0-03-percent-of-all-web-traffic-in-its-firs/ > (WS) > > "Over the first week of the device's public availability, the report > says, the iPad nabbed about 0.03 percent of all web traffic. For > comparison, the iPhone averages about 0.51 percent of traffic. This > number nearly matches web traffic for BlackBerrys in March -- 0.04 > percent (Android grabbed up 0.07 percent, as did Windows Mobile)." > > Those numbers are done by sampling. So, we assume it is good. If it > is consistent between devices, interesting. That it is kinda close to > all the Crackberrys that have been around forever, is interesting. I wonder how they define "web traffic". Number of web pages served at specific sites? Volume of data moved? Other? Depending on what you measure, and how you measure, you may get radically misleading results. For example, assume that we could somehow meter the volume of data transmitted by all Blackberrys and iPads, and that BB users were predominantly text based, such as email and SMS, while iPad users were predominantly graphic based, like surfing web pages with images. A single web page, like the weather network, can easily deliver 500K of data on an iPad, which could be roughly equivalent to 100 emails and 50 SMS messages on Blackberry. For me, it's hard to come to any conclusions from this data. A recent CNET article addressed the iPad "shortage," stating that their call to a number of Apple stores indicated they all had iPad inventory, and personal visits to a number of Apple stores in various states showed no swarms, no lineups, and iPads waiting to be sold. Perhaps when Apple said "500,000 sales" they meant "shipments to retailers," much like Microsoft counted Vista "sales". I dunno. It's hard for me to sometimes separate the facts from what manufacturers are trying to get the public to believe. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From piechota at argolis.org Sun Apr 18 17:30:12 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:30:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: iPad maybe making a splash. In-Reply-To: <6137EA1A95054F86A6E3A41AB30C136A@9200c> References: <6137EA1A95054F86A6E3A41AB30C136A@9200c> Message-ID: <4BCB41A4.5090905@argolis.org> Steve Makohin wrote: > Hello Brian, > > From: "Brian Curry" > >> http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/17/report-ipad-grabbed-0-03-percent-of-all-web-traffic-in-its-firs/ >> (WS) >> >> "Over the first week of the device's public availability, the report >> says, the iPad nabbed about 0.03 percent of all web traffic. For >> comparison, the iPhone averages about 0.51 percent of traffic. This >> number nearly matches web traffic for BlackBerrys in March -- 0.04 >> percent (Android grabbed up 0.07 percent, as did Windows Mobile)." This I found interesting, since Blackberry has, by far, the the largest installed base of the four (BB, iPhone/iPad, Android, and Windows mobile) in the US. Another factor here may be my Droid and the iPhone have an unlimited data plan *by default*, whereas Blackberry has a limit. Being unlimited certainly encourages me to use the phone more than I would if I were counting bytes. I know I wouldn't sit on my couch looking up actors in movies on my phone or sending email if I were limited. > I wonder how they define "web traffic". Number of web pages served at > specific sites? Volume of data moved? Other? Depending on what you measure, > and how you measure, you may get radically misleading results. For example, > assume that we could somehow meter the volume of data transmitted by all > Blackberrys and iPads, and that BB users were predominantly text based, such > as email and SMS, while iPad users were predominantly graphic based, like > surfing web pages with images. A single web page, like the weather network, > can easily deliver 500K of data on an iPad, which could be roughly > equivalent to 100 emails and 50 SMS messages on Blackberry. Not to mention the ipad may be downloading the 'full fat' web as opposed to defaulting (or being redirected by the site) to the 'mobile' page. As a comparison, which do you think accounts for more 'traffic': http://www.nhl.com/ http://m.nhl.com/ From piechota at argolis.org Sun Apr 18 17:35:24 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:35:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Photo from the ride home Message-ID: <4BCB42DC.8090506@argolis.org> I call this photo, "Dick Bregstein's recurring nightmare". http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1317555&l=7e4aa6b599&id=1203742077 From dbcase at gmail.com Sun Apr 18 17:45:05 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:45:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Photo from the ride home In-Reply-To: <4BCB42DC.8090506@argolis.org> References: <4BCB42DC.8090506@argolis.org> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Matt Piechota wrote: > I call this photo, "Dick Bregstein's recurring nightmare". > http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1317555&l=7e4aa6b599&id=1203742077 Yikes!. In a rock-paper-scissors world, that's got Dick beat. :) Dave Case From pasegc at gmail.com Sun Apr 18 18:38:40 2010 From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:38:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA Mileage Forms Message-ID: Just a note of appreciation to all those that gave me their MOA Mileage Forms today. I have posted all miles and sent an acknowledgement to each person so you know I have your form. We currently have 40 people that have given the mileage information to me. Last year we submitted info on 67 total riders and I want desparately to beat that number. As I noted the state of PA is pushing very hard to beat Wisconsin, and I'm all for that, but I dont want some other club to beat the Mac-Pac so I ask you to please get me your forms. We have had some past participants come back and join in on the fun but we need everyone that is an MOA member to come aboard. I have a list of 138 past names that once were involved and as I note 40 have responded so far. Please mail me your completed forms, sign the bottom line and the Charter club number is #289. You can submit via .pdf email or USPS to the folowing: Thank you and regards, Gerry Cavanaugh 40 Ackman Lane Coatesville, PA pasegc at gmail.com From wayne at 2zars.com Sun Apr 18 21:02:42 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:02:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Photo from the ride home In-Reply-To: <4BCB42DC.8090506@argolis.org> References: <4BCB42DC.8090506@argolis.org> Message-ID: <1qsms55rl67dsv6kn9gt67l9ueib72mlpd@4ax.com> >I call this photo, "Dick Bregstein's recurring nightmare". >http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1317555&l=7e4aa6b599&id=1203742077 No Matt, Dick's reoccurring nightmare is here: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hfIz_X9WDTY/SdQ8p7ymtYI/AAAAAAAABCs/dHMcx7VbyQQ/s1600-h/Jack+Riepe+at+BLaM+Co.jpg (WS) Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From wayne at 2zars.com Sun Apr 18 21:07:26 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:07:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jamie sings at "Team Pretty in Pinckney" event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Hi all, links to video of my 15 year old daughter Jamie performing at >a breast cancer fund-raiser put on the by group "Team Pretty in >Pinckney" last night. > >She did two songs, the first is an original called "Caught" that she >wrote herself. The second is called "Old Soul". This was her first >performance in front of a live audience. ?I'm so proud. :) Very well done! Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From mjcantwe at gmail.com Sun Apr 18 21:34:59 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:34:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Photo from the ride home In-Reply-To: <1qsms55rl67dsv6kn9gt67l9ueib72mlpd@4ax.com> References: <4BCB42DC.8090506@argolis.org> <1qsms55rl67dsv6kn9gt67l9ueib72mlpd@4ax.com> Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0PIdWdw15U > No Matt, Dick's reoccurring nightmare is here: > > http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hfIz_X9WDTY/SdQ8p7ymtYI/AAAAAAAABCs/dHMcx7VbyQQ/s1600-h/Jack+Riepe+at+BLaM+Co.jpg From 321design at gmail.com Sun Apr 18 21:54:02 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:54:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakfast photos Message-ID: Random pictures from breakfast. http://picasaweb.google.com/321design/100418MacPacBreakfast# I would like to thank the Mac Pac member who made the newbi feel welcome to our group when he told him to never wear that (button down dress) shirt here again; priceless - it made the chilly ride well worth the trip. On my way home I (and Jack and Leslie in Jacks new "vehicle") were held up at a light by police letting a long line of bikers (mostly Harleys) pass going north on 100 through Exton. I would guess about 70 bikes. I think it may have been Smaltz's " FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS" Memorial Ride For Stretch. Lots of ape hangers - sans brain bucket. -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From saylorspond at comcast.net Sun Apr 18 23:24:30 2010 From: saylorspond at comcast.net (saylorspond at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakfast photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <699516562.16142361271633070222.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Haut" <321design at gmail.com> I would like to thank the Mac Pac member who made the newbi feel welcome to our group when he told him to never wear that (button down dress) shirt here again; priceless - it made the chilly ride well worth the trip. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Next time I may have to wear a bow tie just to differentiate myself from the crowd. I had a great time and enjoyed the laughter and conversation. Scott Miller Drexel Hill, PA 1999 R1100RT-P -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100418/53724bd3/attachment.html From motorrader at verizon.net Sun Apr 18 23:40:10 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:40:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Special Request for Mac Pac Breakfast References: Message-ID: <49E3CD08142F40D3857FC2219D9E4553@dellfe483b726d> > Sorry, I won't be able to make it to breakfast, but if anyone is looking > for > a nice destination ride after breakfast, this weekend is the Gathering of > the Norton's at Washington Crossing Park just south of New Hope. There are > always some beautiful bikes there, but alas, not too many K75's. > > Jack Weiss Jack, Yes indeed it was a terrific time at the Gathering of the Norton's. Of course you will always find a nice selection of Triumph's, BSA's and many other vintage bikes including BMW's. I rode down to see Karl Duffner who had his Goldstar there (no he is not riding, our friend Dave rode the bike) and the parking lot was full of beautiful vintage machinery, mostly British. Lots of friends and familiar faces and I was able to sign up about 4 more riders for the May 2nd ride. My only regret was not arriving earlier and handing out the flyers I printed out for the ride. Laura and I got a good ride in and it was a decent day inspite of the cool temps. Regards, Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Sun Apr 18 23:56:05 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:56:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakfast photos References: <699516562.16142361271633070222.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <10D78283676A4C35A53D83872D15B1CD@dellfe483b726d> > Next time I may have to wear a bow tie just to differentiate myself from > the crowd. > I had a great time and enjoyed the laughter and conversation. > Scott Miller > Drexel Hill, PA Beaufort Snodgrass, (Scott) We enjoyed your company and thanks for putting up with our nonsense. Dispite the rumors, this is really not that bad a crowd...........Oh, by the way, I hope you didn't pay for breakfast. Riepe said he was buying, well he tried until Gordon picked up the checks. Thanks Gordon..........I got you next time. Beaufort, we are hoping to see you and your friends on May 2nd. Regards, Todd From dbcase at gmail.com Sun Apr 18 23:59:44 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:59:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakfast photos In-Reply-To: <699516562.16142361271633070222.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <699516562.16142361271633070222.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 7:24 PM, wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob Haut" <321design at gmail.com> > > I would like to thank the Mac Pac member who made the newbi feel > welcome to our group when he told him to never wear that (button down > dress) shirt here again; priceless - it made the chilly ride well > worth the trip. > > Next time I may have to wear a bow tie just to differentiate myself from the crowd. > > > > I had a great time and enjoyed the laughter and conversation. > > > > Scott Miller Scott, was that you who took the shot? I'm glad you took it well. I think the funniest part is, ANY of us could have been wearing that shirt. All of us own one. :) Dave Case Lansdale, PA From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 00:41:39 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:41:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Cash Is Turning Into a Hang-Up for Verizon Message-ID: This is something that drives PR folks like Joe's sister nutz, or to needing hair coloring. From: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303491304575188223191833124.html?mod=WSJ_hps_sections_tech Which may not work for all. Massive snippage to the pertinent bits. ================ Cash Is Turning Into a Hang-Up for Verizon It is one of Wall Street's worst-kept secrets: the challenge Verizon Communications faces in financing its generous dividend beyond next year. Verizon has lately relied on financial maneuvers to fund the payout, $5.3 billion in 2009. While Verizon reported free cash flow of $14.5 billion in 2009, all of that came from its 55%-owned wireless business. Verizon's reported wireless free cash flow was $14.8 billion, implying its fully owned operations?predominantly its "wire line" phone business?generated no free cash flow. Admittedly, wire-line should be generating more cash by next year, as the FiOS fiber network build-out ends. Verizon also will get cash from the coming sale of certain wire-line operations, although that sale will reduce wire-line profits. Verizon needs the cash from wireless more than Vodafone, which can afford to wait. The U.S. company faces some unpalatable options next year. ============== Note "as the FiOS fiber network build-out ends." so, it is not going to expand a lot more in the near future and it changes to advertising costs to drive up participation and use of the existing assets/facilities. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From charlesdscott at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 00:43:47 2010 From: charlesdscott at gmail.com (Charles Scott) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:43:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1965 R27 for Sale In-Reply-To: References: <82573.c85d5b8.38f91fc9@aol.com> Message-ID: The R27 sold today for $1,300. That was at the bottom of the pre-auction estimate of $1,300 to $2,100. Regards. Charles Scott West Chester, PA From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Apr 19 00:51:08 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:51:08 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] 1965 R27 for Sale Message-ID: <4e819.24afe6e3.38fd02fc@aol.com> In a message dated 4/18/2010 8:45:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, charlesdscott at gmail.com writes: The R27 sold today for $1,300. That was at the bottom of the pre-auction estimate of $1,300 to $2,100. =============================================== Thanks for letting us know. I was tempted to go just for that, but it really isn't right for the wallet now. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Apr 19 01:17:45 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 21:17:45 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jamie sings at "Team Pretty in Pinckney" event Message-ID: <4fcc3.3a515042.38fd0939@aol.com> In a message dated 4/18/2010 10:51:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, misevich at gmail.com writes: Hi all, links to video of my 15 year old daughter Jamie performing at a breast cancer fund-raiser put on the by group "Team Pretty in Pinckney" last night. ========================================= Wow! she had a tough job performing for such an inattentive audience and she pulled it off with grace and professionalism. I could hear the power of her young voice in spite of the noise in the audience in front of her. Thanks for sharing. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100418/87d6a3c7/attachment.html From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Apr 19 01:29:45 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 21:29:45 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: If you wondered why folks are loosing their manufacturing j... Message-ID: <50603.5db998ed.38fd0c09@aol.com> In a message dated 4/16/2010 9:51:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bmwbrian at gmail.com writes: http://singularityhub.com/2010/04/05/5-axis-robot-carves-metal-like-butter-v ideo/#more-14509 (WS) Carving a motorcycle helmet shape (I DO NOT THINK, it would have good crash properties.) out of a SINGLE block of aluminum with ONE machine. There is no swapping from a lathe to a milling machine etc. ========================================================= My Dentist has a machine like that in his office. I watched it make the tooth for my implant in just a few minutes. I was impressed with how fast it moved. Somehow after the Dentist took a mold of my original tooth and fed that image into the computer, the machine quickly cut out a replica and now I carry that in my mouth and chew with it. Amazing. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100418/4c847ffe/attachment.html From Doug at pencader.com Mon Apr 19 01:44:53 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 21:44:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: If you wondered why folks are loosing their manufacturing j... In-Reply-To: <50603.5db998ed.38fd0c09@aol.com> References: <50603.5db998ed.38fd0c09@aol.com> Message-ID: <002501cadf61$ea7f1820$bf7d4860$@com> Roddy wrote; >>> snips > http://singularityhub.com/2010/04/05/5-axis-robot-carves-metal-like-butter-v > ideo/#more-14509 >>> snips > My Dentist has a machine like that in his office. I watched it make the tooth for my implant in just a few minutes. >>> snips > Somehow after the Dentist took a mold of my original tooth and fed > that image into the computer, the machine quickly cut out a replica and now I > carry that in my mouth and chew with it. Amazing. Roddy. >>> end Roddy, What kind of wood did he use? Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Apr 19 02:01:47 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:01:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Question for Roddy or others Message-ID: <4BCB814B.4978.156E6D75@localhost> There is one type of tree that I have noticed this time of year that I can't identify. I was wondering if someone knows what it is. This distinctive feature is this tree has small purple flowers that are blooming right now. The flowers are in small clusters that grow along the length of the branches, not just at the ends (like dogwood). The trees are often in front yards as an ornamental. However, I also see them on the side of the road. They are usually a small and scrawny tree, without a full canopy. Anyone know that this is? I am just curious. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From oldmainlinehomes at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 02:17:21 2010 From: oldmainlinehomes at gmail.com (oldmainlinehomes at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 02:17:21 +0000 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Question for Roddy or others In-Reply-To: <4BCB814B.4978.156E6D75@localhost> References: <4BCB814B.4978.156E6D75@localhost> Message-ID: <535645936-1271643353-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-176797157-@bda384.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Red Bud? Kenn brown Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Joe Dille" Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:01:47 To: mac-Pac Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Question for Roddy or others There is one type of tree that I have noticed this time of year that I can't identify. I was wondering if someone knows what it is. This distinctive feature is this tree has small purple flowers that are blooming right now. The flowers are in small clusters that grow along the length of the branches, not just at the ends (like dogwood). The trees are often in front yards as an ornamental. However, I also see them on the side of the road. They are usually a small and scrawny tree, without a full canopy. Anyone know that this is? I am just curious. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From cjschaffer at verizon.net Mon Apr 19 02:35:52 2010 From: cjschaffer at verizon.net (C & R Schaffer) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:35:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Question for Roddy or others In-Reply-To: <535645936-1271643353-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-176797157-@bda384.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <4BCB814B.4978.156E6D75@localhost> <535645936-1271643353-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-176797157-@bda384.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <650E580DEFE547F2B2BF92AC687AB8C9@RozCharliePC> Yes, it's the Eastern Red Bud. Charlie -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:17 PM To: ; "mac-Pac" Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] OT Question for Roddy or others > Red Bud? > > Kenn brown > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Joe Dille" > Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:01:47 > To: mac-Pac > Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Question for Roddy or others > > There is one type of tree that I have noticed this time of year that > I can't identify. I was wondering if someone knows what it is. This > distinctive feature is this tree has small purple flowers that are > blooming right now. The flowers are in small clusters that grow > along the length of the branches, not just at the ends (like > dogwood). > > The trees are often in front yards as an ornamental. However, I also > see them on the side of the road. They are usually a small and > scrawny tree, without a full canopy. > > Anyone know that this is? I am just curious. > > Ride Safe, > > Joe > --------------------------------- > Joe Dille > Telford, PA USA > joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us > What happens on Earth, stays on Earth > http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2819 - Release Date: 04/18/10 > 14:31:00 > From jack.riepe at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 02:43:18 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:43:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jamie sings at "Team Pretty in Pinckney" event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Dave: And so a star, with a sense of social consciousness, is born. How proud you must be! -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Apr 19 02:58:47 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:58:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Question for Roddy or others In-Reply-To: <535645936-1271643353-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-176797157-@bda384.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <4BCB814B.4978.156E6D75@localhost> Message-ID: <4BCB8EA7.6013.15A29A3E@localhost> That looks like it. Thanks. > Red Bud? > > Kenn brown > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Question for Roddy or others > > There is one type of tree that I have noticed this time of year that I > can't identify. --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 03:12:39 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:12:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA Message-ID: http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=44690 (WS and I hope that it is open to the masses and I don't have a cookie set that I can see it.) Start thinking NOW of what we can do. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Apr 19 04:20:25 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 00:20:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Breakfast photos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCAD8EC4AD6B97-13D0-1796D@webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com> Thanks for the pics...sorry I'm missed the festivities! Gary Christman '07 R 1200GS Adventure -----Original Message----- From: Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> Random pictures from breakfast. http://picasaweb.google.com/321design/100418MacPacBreakfast# From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Apr 19 05:31:46 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 01:31:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT......kitchen progress...... Message-ID: <8CCAD98BC6B67F5-13D0-17DA5@webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com> Got the vents in, wiring in and drywall on the walls....some pics....... Good thing I take pics........put the drywall up and covered up the microwave wire, hood wire and counter lights wire.....gotta cut some holes and find them ! http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#833035294_RKxcG Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Apr 19 09:59:00 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 05:59:00 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: If you wondered why folks are loosing their manufacturing j... Message-ID: <60e63.1cce230b.38fd8364@aol.com> In a message dated 4/18/2010 9:43:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Doug at Pencader.com writes: What kind of wood did he use? =============================== White Ebony. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100419/52ae9dd5/attachment.html From Ducdude at verizon.net Mon Apr 19 10:28:24 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 06:28:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA References: Message-ID: <3FDC4A02BE0A491198814D63AF22D05D@heilveil5e3fdd> From: "Brian Curry" To: "Mac-Pac" Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:12 PM Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA > http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=44690 > (WS and I hope that it is open to the masses and I don't have a cookie > set that I can see it.) > > Start thinking NOW of what w ............................................................................................................ OMG!! I can take the 70cc Scooter to a Nat and make it there in a day! Ya know it would be a good time to have an achem, talk with all the Wisconsin riders and make them an offer they cant refuse.. Duc From todd.p.byrum at lmco.com Mon Apr 19 11:40:58 2010 From: todd.p.byrum at lmco.com (Byrum, Todd P) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 07:40:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Special Summer Breakfast - June 19th Message-ID: The Mac-Pac will hold another of the special Saturday breakfast gatherings on June 19th at the Joanna Furnace Historical site near Morgantown, PA. We'll gather at 8:00am and enjoy the outstanding breakfast that the Hay Creek Valley Historical Association http://www.haycreek.org/ puts on. Located three miles north of Morgantown on Route 10. Turn at Furnace Road. Its Father's Day weekend so bring the family. June 19th is one of Joanna Furnace's "Operation Days" so they have numerous special events going on and they are planning preferred parking for motorcycles made 1985 and earlier. "Car Cruise Breakfast Buffet: Model T Car Games & Mechanical Technology exhibits. Antique Motorcycle Club has been invited and venerable members of the infamous Mac Pac will be present The Hay Creek Valley Historical Association will offer its hearty breakfast buffet with delicious homemade foods. The menu usually includes: fresh country sausage, bacon, scrapple, chipped cream beef, pancakes, scrambled eggs, hash browns, fruit, baked oatmeal, toast, juice, coffee and tea. Cost is $7.00 for adults and $3.50 for children ages 6 - 11. Children under 6 are free. Giant Flea Market: Spring has arrived and the Joanna Furnace Flea Market is once again open for business. Visitors can shop for antiques, crafts, household items, tools, kids clothing, books, and much more in our ever-popular market. Stands open at 7 am... so get here early to find that perfect bargain!" Great breakfast and we could be eating "al fresco" if the weather cooperates. See you there. Todd byrum Gilbertsville, PA From Doug at pencader.com Mon Apr 19 12:00:31 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 08:00:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: If you wondered why folks are loosing their manufacturing j... In-Reply-To: <60e63.1cce230b.38fd8364@aol.com> References: <60e63.1cce230b.38fd8364@aol.com> Message-ID: <004b01cadfb7$eb12d690$c13883b0$@com> Roddy wrote in response to Doug; >>> snips > In a message dated 4/18/2010 9:43:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > Doug at Pencader.com writes: > What kind of wood did he use? > =============================== > White Ebony. >>> end Roddy, Sounds like a lot of pulp fiction to me! Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From Doug at pencader.com Mon Apr 19 12:06:06 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 08:06:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT......kitchen progress...... In-Reply-To: <8CCAD98BC6B67F5-13D0-17DA5@webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCAD98BC6B67F5-13D0-17DA5@webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <004c01cadfb8$b30c1350$192439f0$@com> Gary wrote; >>> snips > Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT......kitchen progress...... > Got the vents in, wiring in and drywall on the walls....some pics....... > Good thing I take pics........put the drywall up and covered up the > microwave wire, hood wire and counter lights wire.....gotta cut some > holes and find them ! > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#833035294_RKxc G >>> Gary, Looks like the work of a well qualified "merit" shop! Your latest pics served as inspiration for my Monday morning. Thanks for posting, Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From ephoet at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 14:44:08 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:44:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=44690 > > Start thinking NOW of what we can do. > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- No problems getting in, I am not a registered user. Interesting. A very short trip for many of us. One commentator suggested Bloomsburg Fair was the largest fair in PA. DING! Allentown and York both have larger fairs, in terms of attendance. And the York Fair dates back to 1765 (assuming you believe that claim) http://www.carnivalwarehouse.com/lists/2009list.pdf EPH From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 14:48:16 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:48:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/19/10, Erik Hoet wrote: > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > > http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=44690 > Allentown and York both have larger fairs, in terms of attendance. > And the York Fair dates back to 1765 (assuming you believe that claim) > http://www.carnivalwarehouse.com/lists/2009list.pdf They held rally at the YFGs. It was a zoo. I think it was late 80's. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwrebel at dejazzd.com Mon Apr 19 15:01:57 2010 From: bmwrebel at dejazzd.com (bmwrebel at dejazzd.com) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 8:01:57 -0700 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100419100157.ZUDEK.1307278.root@ispmxfep14-z02> I was at the York national, Traffic was bad, and the city did not appreacate us like a small town does, we were just an other event at the fair grounds. The rallys are better in small towns where we are X-mas in July. Besides the riding is better up there. ---- Brian Curry wrote: > On 4/19/10, Erik Hoet wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > > > http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=44690 > > > Allentown and York both have larger fairs, in terms of attendance. > > And the York Fair dates back to 1765 (assuming you believe that claim) > > http://www.carnivalwarehouse.com/lists/2009list.pdf > > They held rally at the YFGs. It was a zoo. I think it was late 80's. > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ambassador BMW MOA | > Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? > "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped > K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at > Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 15:29:30 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:29:30 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Some say the US revolution started 235 years ago TODAY. Message-ID: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303491304575187994012213772.html (WS, should be readable.) Today is the LAST day to register to vote in the PA primary election. Register. VOTE, it is FAR easier than wars on the populace!!! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wateredg at interlog.com Mon Apr 19 15:34:26 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:34:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Some say the US revolution started 235 years agoTODAY. References: Message-ID: Hello all, From: "Brian Curry" > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303491304575187994012213772.html > (WS, should be readable.) > > Today is the LAST day to register to vote in the PA primary election. > Register. VOTE, it is FAR easier than wars on the populace!!! FYI, requires (free?) subscription to the Wall Street Journal web site. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 16:05:00 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:05:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Some say the US revolution started 235 years agoTODAY. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/19/10, Steve Makohin wrote: > Hello all, > > From: "Brian Curry" > > > > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303491304575187994012213772.html > > (WS, should be readable.) > > > > Today is the LAST day to register to vote in the PA primary election. > > Register. VOTE, it is FAR easier than wars on the populace!!! > > > FYI, requires (free?) subscription to the Wall Street Journal web site. I wondered. Now I know. And I checked with the unknown to WSJ browser. Correct. You can see the comments: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303491304575187994012213772.html#articleTabs%3Dcomments And this is WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE. (WSJ may not be happy with me.) America's Other Independence Day The British troops were 'like murderers and cut-throats.' By T.H. BREEN We ought to celebrate April 19 as the anniversary of the founding of our country. To be sure, a formal declaration of independence would come a year after the battles of Lexington and Concord. For ordinary men and women, however, those battles severed the ties that had bound the colonists to Great Britain for almost two centuries. The killing of militiamen at Lexington transformed the character of the brewing conflict. After that moment there could be no turning back. We still recall Paul Revere's famous ride the night before. He set out to warn John Hancock and Sam Adams that the British Army, stationed in Boston following the Boston Tea Party, was on the move to Lexington to seize military supplies believed to be in Concord. But Revere's heroics have deflected attention from the thousands of farmers who rushed to the scene of action. One was Isaac Davis of Acton, a few miles from Concord. Many decades later, Isaac's wife Hannah recounted the events of that day for curious neighbors. Isaac had been selected captain of the Acton Minutemen and, as Hannah explained in 1835, "Between him [and] his Company there was strong attachment [and] unlimited confidence." She added, "He well knew his danger, but was a stranger to fear." At dawn, having been warned by a messenger from Concord, the local soldiers gathered at Isaac's house. They made cartridges and when the time came to move out Isaac paused. "As he led the company toward Concord," Hannah explained, "he turned round, and seemed to have something to communicate. He only said 'take good care of the children,' and was soon out of sight." British troops shot Isaac a few hours later. He died near the bridge at Concord. "In the afternoon," Hannah said, her husband "was brought home a corpse. He was placed in my bedroom till the funeral." Whatever his thoughts may have been, we can imagine that he did in fact "have something to communicate." More than two centuries after the event, he asks us to reflect on how ordinary people?in families and small communities?became central figures in the overthrow of imperial rule. For them anger over what had occurred at Lexington and Concord infused political resistance with a surge of raw emotional energy. The British troops first appeared, Lexington's Reverend Jonas Clark would later say, "and more like murderers and cut-throats, than the troops of a Christian king, without provocation, without warning, they draw the sword of violence, upon the inhabitants of this town." News of the battles spread rapidly and the accounts?often exaggerated?confirmed popular assumptions about the cruelty and insensitivity of a corrupt imperial power. According to a Connecticut writer on May 29, the attack revealed "this pretended mother [Great Britain] is a vile imposter?an old, abandoned prostitute?a robber, a murderer?crimsoned over with every abominable crime, shocking to humanity!" And writing to his friend William Small on May 7, Thomas Jefferson recognized how dramatically the political situation had changed. "This accident has cut off our last hope of reconciliation, and a phrenzy [sic] of revenge seems to have seized all ranks of people." Dr. Joseph Warren, who several weeks later would die at Bunker Hill, marveled at the shift in popular opinion. "The people never seemed in earnest about the matter until after the engagement of the 19th . . . and I verily believe, that the night preceding that barbarous outrage committed by the soldiery at Lexington, Concord, &c., there were not fifty people in the whole colony [Massachusetts] that expected any blood would be shed in the contest between us and Great Britain." The Continental Congress voted for independence on July 4, 1776. But ordinary people were ahead of their leaders. As a revolutionary committee in Charleston, S.C., declared on June 30, 1775, "Let it be delivered down to posterity, that the American civil war broke out on the 19th day of April, 1775.?An epoch that, in all probability, will mark the declension of the British empire!" Mr. Breen is professor of history at Northwestern and is the author of "American Insurgents, American Patriots: The Revolution of the People," due out in May from Farrar, Straus and Giroux. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From mjcantwe at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 17:11:41 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:11:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: High adventure blog... Message-ID: ...Sorry, it has nothing to do with Jack's last blog entry. My friend and fellow Paul Smith's College alumnus Eric Remza is on his way to the top of Cho Oyu, the 6th highest peak on earth. Thought you might like to see some nice pics and follow the adventure as well. Michael. From mjcantwe at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 17:14:36 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:14:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: High adventure blog... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: forgotten link..... http://mountainguides.com/cho-oyu10.shtml From rdlebout at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 17:18:22 2010 From: rdlebout at gmail.com (Roberts LeBoutillier) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:18:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Question for Roddy or others In-Reply-To: <4BCB8EA7.6013.15A29A3E@localhost> References: <4BCB814B.4978.156E6D75@localhost> <535645936-1271643353-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-176797157-@bda384.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <4BCB8EA7.6013.15A29A3E@localhost> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Joe Dille wrote: > That looks like it. ?Thanks. > >> Red Bud? >> >> Kenn brown >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> > >> Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Question for Roddy or others >> >> There is one type of tree that I have noticed this time of year that I >> can't identify. > --------------------------------- > Joe Dille > Telford, PA USA > joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us > What happens on Earth, stays on Earth > http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > Redbud - Cercis canadensis new variety Cercis canadensis Forest Pansy new growth is dark red / purple also comes as a white flower - Cercis canadensis alba my favorite some growers keep them as multi stem trees but a few prune them up into one trunk with branches that start 4' up -- Bobby LeBoutillier From ephoet at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 18:04:10 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:04:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: <20100419100157.ZUDEK.1307278.root@ispmxfep14-z02> References: <20100419100157.ZUDEK.1307278.root@ispmxfep14-z02> Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:01 AM, wrote: > I was at the York national, Traffic was bad, and the city did not appreciate us like a small town does, we were just an other event at the fair grounds. The rallys are better in small towns where we are X-mas in July. Besides the riding is better up there. I wasn't arguing that York or Allentown would be better. Bloomsburg is the better choice, I agree. Riding around York or Allentown is nothing too exciting.... Though York does OK with all the Street Rods showing up every Memorial Day. (June 4-6 this year) Erik From mjcantwe at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 18:38:32 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:38:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: High adventure blog... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've heard him use 'Pasang Nuri Sherpa' on several occasions, except it sounded more like 'Putang Jelly Slurper'. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Dick wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Michael Cantwell > wrote: >> >> forgotten link..... >> >> >> http://mountainguides.com/cho-oyu10.shtml >> _______________________________________________ >> Mac-pac-l mailing list >> Mac-pac-l at jtan.com >> http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > Mike: > Thanks for posting the pseudonyms Jack uses at the base camp singles bar.. > Panuru Sherpa > Tashi Tseri Sherpa > Mingma Ongel Sherpa > Phunuru Sherpa > Nagwang Younden Sherpa > Pasang Nuri Sherpa > > -- > BMW-Dick > > From bmwdick at gmail.com Sun Apr 18 17:49:39 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:49:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Photo from the ride home In-Reply-To: References: <4BCB42DC.8090506@argolis.org> Message-ID: Matt: I think I'd rather bump into a few of the soup dumplings in the next pix. Dick On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 1:45 PM, David Case wrote: > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Matt Piechota wrote: >> I call this photo, "Dick Bregstein's recurring nightmare". >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1317555&l=7e4aa6b599&id=1203742077 > > > Yikes!. ?In a rock-paper-scissors world, that's got Dick beat. :) > > Dave Case > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 11:30:00 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 07:30:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT......kitchen progress...... In-Reply-To: <8CCAD98BC6B67F5-13D0-17DA5@webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCAD98BC6B67F5-13D0-17DA5@webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Gary: I have to read your emails when Jane isn't home. What a great job! Dick On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Gary Christman wrote: > Got the vents in, wiring in and drywall on the walls....some pics....... > Good thing I take pics........put the drywall up and covered up the > microwave wire, hood wire and counter lights wire.....gotta cut some > holes and find them ?! > > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#833035294_RKxcG > > Gary Christman > '07 R 1200 GS Adventure > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 18:04:27 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:04:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: High adventure blog... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Michael Cantwell wrote: > forgotten link..... > > > http://mountainguides.com/cho-oyu10.shtml > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > Mike: Thanks for posting the pseudonyms Jack uses at the base camp singles bar.. Panuru Sherpa Tashi Tseri Sherpa Mingma Ongel Sherpa Phunuru Sherpa Nagwang Younden Sherpa Pasang Nuri Sherpa -- BMW-Dick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100419/7b85ea7e/attachment.html From misevich at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 18:45:08 2010 From: misevich at gmail.com (Dave Misevich) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Jamie sings at "Team Pretty in Pinckney" event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for taking the time to watch the videos and for the kind comments. She really loves performing, music and theater. Who knows, maybe she can make a living at it. :) -- Dave Misevich Dexter, MI '85 K100RT '98 R1100RT From ladyvol at fastmail.fm Mon Apr 19 19:47:59 2010 From: ladyvol at fastmail.fm (Jill McCarley) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1271706479.27938.1370787863@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:48 -0400, "Brian Curry" wrote: > On 4/19/10, Erik Hoet wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > > > http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=44690 > > > Allentown and York both have larger fairs, in terms of attendance. > > And the York Fair dates back to 1765 (assuming you believe that claim) > > http://www.carnivalwarehouse.com/lists/2009list.pdf > > They held rally at the YFGs. It was a zoo. I think it was late 80's. I think the Pac presence should be palpable at the 2011 MOA...in my mind's eye, I can picture a tent a la "Airhead" style, but cooler...shag carpeting, swag/lava lamps, and, of course, plenty of space for breaking down a bike while kibitzing about every bolt that's being turned. Jill ---------------------------- '90 R100GS '06 K1200 R "The Screaming Meanie" Jill McCarley, MD Child and Adolescent Psychiatry Member, Ketchup Advisory Board "Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness." From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 19:48:11 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] So your electric vehicle "frees" us from oil and makes us dependent on lanthanides Message-ID: which mostly come ONLY from China.... Is it really that good a trade-off? Hold it. There are no trade-offs in the Utopian worlds. http://www.dailytech.com/Hybrids+EVs+More+Dangerous+to+US+Security+Than+Foreign+Oil+Says+Expert/article18160.htm (WS) "Hybrids, EVs More Dangerous to U.S. Security Than Foreign Oil, Says Expert" I was surprised at how much of the rare earth metals there are in the cars. They make lithium look like nothing. I also like the statement that the US does have deposits. The chances of exploiting them under current conditions while not zero, it can't be seen to be much different than zero. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From 321design at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 23:25:46 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:25:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - I can't remember names Message-ID: Sometimes I feel like this: I have the worst memory ever so no matter who comes up to me - they're just, like, 'I can't believe you don't remember me!" I'm like, 'Oh Dad I'm sorry!' - Ellen DeGeneres -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From jweiss11 at comcast.net Mon Apr 19 23:24:09 2010 From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:24:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Selling my Suzuki Message-ID: <7BC0D0B9125F4099894FBFBBD6009030@jackde48df08c6> Hey All, I decided to sell my Suzuki. It is time for someone else to play with it. Perhaps someone a touch smaller than me. 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URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100419/ff4e010d/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 23:46:21 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] How stuff is made Message-ID: I was pointed to a page on how ball bearings are made: http://www.madehow.com/Volume-1/Ball-Bearing.html I back tracked a bit, and found the top level: http://www.madehow.com/index.html LOTS of good info here. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wayne at 2zars.com Mon Apr 19 23:52:39 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:52:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT......kitchen progress...... In-Reply-To: <8CCAD98BC6B67F5-13D0-17DA5@webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCAD98BC6B67F5-13D0-17DA5@webmail-d008.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 01:31:46 -0400, you wrote: >Got the vents in, wiring in and drywall on the walls....some pics....... >Good thing I take pics........put the drywall up and covered up the >microwave wire, hood wire and counter lights wire.....gotta cut some >holes and find them ! > > >http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#833035294_RKxcG > Nice mouse ;-) Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From jweiss11 at comcast.net Mon Apr 19 23:59:28 2010 From: jweiss11 at comcast.net (Jack Weiss) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:59:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Selling my Suzuki Message-ID: <313059938B7F47C280206A01B4D137E3@jackde48df08c6> Whoops! Having been properly scolded by the LN and having deserved far worse, I hereby apologize to the list for my inappropriate use of HTML. Anyway, here is a link to the Suzuki on EBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330425598204&s sPageName=ADME:B:EF:MOTORS:1123 Many of you saw the bike at Todd Trumbore's Vintage gig last fall and too many of you saw how silly I looked riding it. I think Ringling Brothers was mentioned by a few. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hey All, I decided to sell my Suzuki. It is time for someone else to play with it. Perhaps someone a touch smaller than me. Jack Weiss R1200GSA "09" CB550 four "76" From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Tue Apr 20 00:47:52 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:47:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - I can't remember names In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <745095663.13099531271724472778.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >I have the worst memory ever so no matter who comes up to me - they're >just, like, 'I can't believe you don't remember me!" I'm like, 'Oh Dad >I'm sorry!' > - Ellen DeGeneres I feel the same way, In my job I may meet and teach 120 -200 students a year. These students are a big part of my life for the school year. I usually teach freshmen, and I will see them in the hall during their senior year and be like "Oh hey, frinsenjenstienberg how you doing." John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From rsorens at comcast.net Tue Apr 20 00:55:40 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:55:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: <1271706479.27938.1370787863@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> >>>>>> ...Pac presence should be palpable at the 2011 MOA...in my mind's eye, I can picture a tent a la "Airhead" style, but cooler...shag carpeting, swag/lava lamps, and, of course, plenty of space for breaking down a bike while kibitzing about every bolt that's being turned. Hmmmm, as the brain turns......I see a rental tent too, a party that would be the talk of the rally: price of admission: one 'six-Pac' per person, plus something to put out to eat.....with a prize to the Mac-Pac member who rides the furthest to the rally (not takes the most time to get there, ERIC). The possibilities....this is OUR TURF, folks.....think creative, you have better than a year.... Rick From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 01:02:42 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:02:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> References: <1271706479.27938.1370787863@webmail.messagingengine.com> <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> Message-ID: On 4/19/10, Rick Sorensen wrote: > the furthest to the rally (not takes the most time to get there, ERIC). SNORK. That is going to leave a Mark... > The possibilities....this is OUR TURF, folks.....think creative, you have > better than a year.... EGZACKERLY. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From doehler at verizon.net Tue Apr 20 01:15:21 2010 From: doehler at verizon.net (Dave Oehler) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:15:21 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA References: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> Message-ID: <66360DD154A24C89808962202AED1444@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Sorensen" To: "'Jill McCarley'" ; "'Brian Curry'" ; "'Erik Hoet'" Cc: "'Mac-Pac'" Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA > > >>>>>>> > ...Pac presence should be palpable at the 2011 MOA...in my mind's eye, I > can > picture a tent a la "Airhead" style, but cooler...shag carpeting, > swag/lava > lamps, and, of course, plenty of space for breaking down a bike while > kibitzing about every bolt that's being turned. > > Hmmmm, as the brain turns......I see a rental tent too, a party that would > be the talk of the rally: price of admission: one 'six-Pac' per person, > plus > something to put out to eat.....with a prize to the Mac-Pac member who > rides > the furthest to the rally (not takes the most time to get there, ERIC). > --------------------------- I just happen to have a 20' x 40' tent and a big generator, no shag or lava lamps... We could truck in all the crap then leave and ride back. We could have a party lodge in the middle of the Mac-Pac neighborhood! This will be fun.... From daviddenesowicz at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 01:12:32 2010 From: daviddenesowicz at gmail.com (David Denesowicz) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:12:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I Received my new Shoei XSP-II Today Message-ID: I just opened a box from The Helmet Shop with my new Blue size L Shoei XSP-II. The price was $200.00 including shipping, they sent me an email w/pic regarding a small chip, offering a $25.00 discount to accept with the flaw. I accepted the offer. ?'s The production # is 001110 - does this indicate the date of manufacture? Do I have to find a church with an onion dome and have the priest decipher the date? Would I have better luck with a Rabbi? There is another sticker stating the production # is RC00110 with the inspector name of "O. Jacka" Is "O. Jacka" in the MAC-PAC and if so do we have his mileage form? There are two plastic pieces with the helmet, one a "TYPE-Z 1" with three tabs and sorta looks like a small visor, the other looks like it might be a breath guard with cloth mesh and ventilation holes. I have not figured out if the two pieces are supposed to connect to the helmet in some way, they dont seem to fit. The helmet came with a really nice bag and an extra, smoked visor. This is my fourth new Shoei, my expired Synchrotech was tested last year coming down the Hill of Seven Mountains on 322 in Centre County. Stay Safe Group, David -- David Denesowicz Box 212 Malvern, PA 19355 215-850-7061 daviddenesowicz at gmail.com '79 R100/7 "You have to go out, you don't have to come back" From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 01:23:25 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:23:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: <66360DD154A24C89808962202AED1444@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> References: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> <66360DD154A24C89808962202AED1444@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> Message-ID: On 4/19/10, Dave Oehler wrote: > > I just happen to have a 20' x 40' tent and a big generator, no shag or lava > lamps... We could truck in all the crap then leave and ride back. We could > have a party lodge in the middle of the Mac-Pac neighborhood! Lava lamps Yes... I think that electricity will be available for a small fee in the "clubs" area. That is where the Airheads normally setup. Most of the time with a "roof" and side flaps that are normally up but can be lowered. It is NOT unlikely that "someone" will come by 4 wheels or more. SWMBO might be that person. Not wanting to ride, but willing to run SUPPORT. SUPPORT is good. We have been through this before. Someone in 4 wheels is good. I think Sue Cavanaugh has done this with fuel. I suspect generator would not go over well in the tenting area, unless it is one of the Silent Honda units. > This will be fun.... You Betcha!!! I contacted Greg Feeler to find out who the Rally HMFIC will be. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From crocov502 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 20 01:23:35 2010 From: crocov502 at yahoo.com (Arla Hile) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> References: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> Message-ID: <533366.97356.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >>>>>>Rick ponders Hmmmm, as the brain turns......I see a rental tent too, a party that would be the talk of the rally: price of admission: one 'six-Pac' per person, plus something to put out to eat.....with a prize to the Mac-Pac member who rides the furthest to the rally (not takes the most time to get there, ERIC). Heh. That prize is SO mine....unless Brian brings the Left Coast Bike ;) Arla only 2770 mi from Bloomsburg per Googlemaps From motoedde2 at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 01:36:43 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:36:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: References: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> <66360DD154A24C89808962202AED1444@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > On 4/19/10, Dave Oehler wrote: >> >> ?I just happen to have a 20' x 40' tent and a big generator, no shag or lava >> ?lamps... ? We could truck in all the crap then leave and ride back. We could >> ?have a party lodge in the middle of the Mac-Pac neighborhood! > > Lava lamps Yes... ?I think that electricity will be available for a > small fee in the "clubs" area. ?That is where the Airheads normally > setup. ?Most of the time with a "roof" and side flaps that are > normally up but can be lowered. > > It is NOT unlikely that "someone" will come by 4 wheels or more. > SWMBO might be that person. ?Not wanting to ride, but willing to run > SUPPORT. ?SUPPORT is good. ?We have been through this before. ?Someone > in 4 wheels is good. ?I think Sue Cavanaugh has done this with fuel. > > I suspect generator would not go over well in the tenting area, unless > it is one of the Silent Honda units. Tis tis Curry...how many Lava lamps can a k75 power up once the headlight is turned off? http://www.lavalamps.org/8.html -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From jack.riepe at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 01:41:28 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:41:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: References: <20100419100157.ZUDEK.1307278.root@ispmxfep14-z02> Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: Duddude Wrote: "with a prize to the Mac-Pac member who rides the furthest to the rally (not takes the most time to get there, ERIC)." Well Eric, you can kiss my fat ass. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From rsorens at comcast.net Tue Apr 20 01:40:54 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:40:54 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: <533366.97356.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0DD10439EF5F48599B88A33B0BD4C777@Tekki> >>>>> Heh. That prize is SO mine....unless Brian brings the Left Coast Bike ;) Arla only 2770 mi from Bloomsburg per Googlemaps Unless Junji decides to come. From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 01:49:16 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:49:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: References: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> <66360DD154A24C89808962202AED1444@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> Message-ID: On 4/19/10, edde m wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > > I suspect generator would not go over well in the tenting area, unless > > it is one of the Silent Honda units. > > Tis tis Curry...how many Lava lamps can a k75 power up once the > headlight is turned off? > http://www.lavalamps.org/8.html Depends on the alternator. House loads w/o the HL are about 70W. So, 480 or 700W alternator? Engine speed over 2K. How good is the inverter that makes DC to AC. (CHEAP will work for a resistance load like a light bulb.) Then is it a 40W or a 100W lavalamp? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From piechota at argolis.org Tue Apr 20 02:22:26 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:22:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BCD0FE2.3050405@argolis.org> Erik Hoet wrote: > No problems getting in, I am not a registered user. Interesting. A > very short trip for many of us. > > One commentator suggested Bloomsburg Fair was the largest fair in PA. > > DING! > > Allentown and York both have larger fairs, in terms of attendance. > And the York Fair dates back to 1765 (assuming you believe that claim) > http://www.carnivalwarehouse.com/lists/2009list.pdf I never realized the Erie County Fair (NY) was that high on the list, #19... From doehler at verizon.net Tue Apr 20 02:27:26 2010 From: doehler at verizon.net (Dave Oehler) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:27:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA References: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> <66360DD154A24C89808962202AED1444@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Curry" To: "edde m" Cc: "mac-Pac" Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA > On 4/19/10, edde m wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > >> > I suspect generator would not go over well in the tenting area, unless >> > it is one of the Silent Honda units. >> ----------------------------- I was not really serious about the generator, it was more my Red Neck side getting excited and thinking of ways to make a scene with tons of lights and noise... it does have a Honda engine! just not a small quiet one. The tent however is very much available, as well as a couple of ez ups, if they allow that much land for a group to take up. I have never been to a rally so I have no idea what to expect. From Braveirwin at aol.com Tue Apr 20 02:53:05 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:53:05 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA Message-ID: <90f7d.6ed6f59.38fe7111@aol.com> In a message dated 4/19/2010 3:48:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ladyvol at fastmail.fm writes: I think the Pac presence should be palpable at the 2011 MOA...in my mind's eye, I can picture a tent a la "Airhead" style, but cooler...shag carpeting, swag/lava lamps, and, of course, plenty of space for breaking down a bike while kibitzing about every bolt that's being turned. Jill ==================================================== I can supply a large tent. But there are plans taking shape in my mind's eye to return the hospitality you showed us last year, Jill. I would like to help plan and execute a welcome party to both local and out-of towners preceding the Rally. Anyone else like to contribute ideas? Roddy Irwin, Arborist of Berks County '92 K 75 RT '85 R 80 RT '73 R60/5 '74 CB 200 T '89 R 100 RS with trailer and assorted dirt bikes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100419/79dfd47e/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 02:53:09 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:53:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] The Bloomsburg Rally Chair(s) will be announced at Redmond OR Message-ID: Greg told me this: =========== volunteers, and so on. The custom is that that the new chair(s) will have a booth near the Country Store with info on the next site and are setup to answer questions, take volunteer offers, and pass out information about the new location. =========== Start thinking of bribes too!! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From Braveirwin at aol.com Tue Apr 20 02:57:26 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:57:26 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA Message-ID: <912cd.e62a2c9.38fe7216@aol.com> In a message dated 4/19/2010 9:23:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, crocov502 at yahoo.com writes: Heh. That prize is SO mine....unless Brian brings the Left Coast Bike ;) Arla ================================================================= ....................or my brother-in-law decides to ride in from Skagway. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100419/d924b268/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 03:01:57 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:01:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: References: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> <66360DD154A24C89808962202AED1444@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> Message-ID: On 4/19/10, Dave Oehler wrote: > > I was not really serious about the generator, it was more my Red Neck side > getting excited and thinking of ways to make a scene with tons of lights and > noise... There is something to be said for that. I think we overloaded Ron Scribetti, and he is not on list, but I included him here. I can approve posts in. He is GOOD at such. I suspect there will be the "standard" no marking out areas rule, but Ron is good on SCHEMING. His son Rich is also VERY GOOD at such stuff. Like father like son. The tent > however is very much available, as well as a couple of ez ups, if they allow > that much land for a group to take up. That is EXACTLY what can be done. I visualized Vermont where it worked out real well. A few tents and EZ-Ups and good to go. One of them worked well for Mike Ormont I think it was. Or "someone". Be SURE to get on as a volunteer. It gets you there early and you can "stake out territory". A truck of stuff could be run up the Sunday before. I am sure the Yankee Beemers will be there with their "Toy Box". I have never been to a rally so I > have no idea what to expect. Oh, a Rally Virgin.... We will need a herd of goats.... In fact we could stake out an area for the goats to graze between services! Oh, and I thought of something else. "Tin Roof" by Sheet Metal Systems.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 03:07:25 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:07:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: <90f7d.6ed6f59.38fe7111@aol.com> References: <90f7d.6ed6f59.38fe7111@aol.com> Message-ID: On 4/19/10, Braveirwin at aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 4/19/2010 3:48:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > ladyvol at fastmail.fm writes: > > I think the Pac presence should be palpable at the 2011 MOA...in my > mind's eye, I can picture a tent a la "Airhead" style, but cooler...shag > carpeting, swag/lava lamps, and, of course, plenty of space for breaking > down a bike while kibitzing about every bolt that's being turned. > > Jill > ==================================================== > > I can supply a large tent. But there are plans taking shape in my mind's eye > to return the hospitality you showed us last year, Jill. I would like to > help plan and execute a welcome party to both local and out-of towners > preceding the Rally. Anyone else like to contribute ideas? > Dwyer and Pat ????? are just West of there. Might be a local base for around that time. With a few tents and volunteers that arrive on site Sunday before, quite a compound could go up in the camping area. The other thing is that having a "stopping point" down here for those arriving from afar and to the Souf, a place to stop, shower, not have to set up a tent, and then an easy day's ride to the site is a GOOD THING. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 04:03:28 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:03:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Interesting sound affect and why Message-ID: The sound of SIX pusher prop engines. http://www.cowtown.net/proweb/b36_sound.htm The actual sound is at: http://www.cowtown.net/proweb/images/b36.wav It is "interesting" to say the least. Rolly can surely appreciate the issue cause it is "kinda" like tuning a guitar. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 04:38:48 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:38:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Women cause earthquakes in Iran Message-ID: Yes, "real" earthquakes. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1267262/Iranian-cleric-Women-wear-revealing-clothing-cause-earthquakes.html "Women who wear revealing clothing and behave promiscuously are to blame for earthquakes, a senior Iranian cleric has said. Hojatoleslam Kazem Sedighi's comments follow a warning by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that a quake is certain to hit the capital Tehran and that many residents should relocate. " Both of them are nutz. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From Ducdude at verizon.net Tue Apr 20 10:36:05 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 06:36:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA References: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> Message-ID: <6A1917CB349047BD95A8641E53267D0B@heilveil5e3fdd> with a prize to the Mac-Pac member who rides > the furthest to the rally (not takes the most time to get there, ERIC). > > > Rick Wait what ?? I was just loading the tent on the C70 scooter so I could leave now and get a head start and claim the prize... Duc "45mph Max" Dude From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Tue Apr 20 10:37:19 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 06:37:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Interesting sound affect and why In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4BCD4B9F.4851.1C6CC3EB@localhost> > The sound of SIX pusher prop engines. > > http://www.cowtown.net/proweb/b36_sound.htm > > The actual sound is at: > http://www.cowtown.net/proweb/images/b36.wav > That is an interesting sound. The unique sound is due to the 6 engines being at a slightly different rpm. Slightly can be only a couple of rpm different. The phenomena is called a "beat" frequency. This explains it: http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/sound_beat.htm You are also getting a heaping helping of the Doppler effect on this recording. > It is "interesting" to say the least. Rolly can surely appreciate the > issue cause it is "kinda" like tuning a guitar. > Indeed, synchronizing the props in a multi-engine plane is done by ear. With a twin it is a simple process. Listen for the beat frequency and make it go away. You never get it exactly right and the engines will change over time. There is no way to get 6 engines exactly right. It will always make a funky sound. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From Ducdude at verizon.net Tue Apr 20 10:45:22 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 06:45:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA References: <20100419100157.ZUDEK.1307278.root@ispmxfep14-z02> Message-ID: From: "Jack Riepe" Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: Dudude Wrote: "with a prize to the Mac-Pac member who rides the furthest to the rally (not takes the most time to get there, ERIC)." Well Eric, you can kiss my fat ass. Fondest regards, Jack --------------------------------------- Hey Chubbs,,, Read the f-in text !! I did not write that.....I believe my Scooter is what they were talking about... Duc From mjcantwe at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 10:47:19 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 06:47:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I Received my new Shoei XSP-II Today In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > There are two plastic pieces with the helmet, one a "TYPE-Z 1" with > three tabs and sorta looks like a small visor, maybe goes inside at top of chin guard the other looks like it > might be a breath guard with cloth mesh and ventilation holes. 'chin curtain' goes at bottom of chin guard Did the helmet come with documentation?? From ladyvol at fastmail.fm Tue Apr 20 11:35:26 2010 From: ladyvol at fastmail.fm (Jill McCarley) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:35:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: References: <90f7d.6ed6f59.38fe7111@aol.com> Message-ID: <1271763326.5909.1370903765@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:07 -0400, "Brian Curry" wrote: > > The other thing is that having a "stopping point" down here for those > arriving from afar and to the Souf, a place to stop, shower, not have > to set up a tent, and then an easy day's ride to the site is a GOOD > THING. Oh, that would be FANTASTIC! We have a complete "cook kit" that we keep packed for such events. It is in a large plastic truck tool box and takes two people to carry. Last year's MOA, we lent it to the Airheads and Cajun Barry fed folks all week. The question would be how to get it up there...or maybe just shoot the Pac a list of what's in it and make up our own with various donations from folks local to the rally? IT is a GREAT thing to have around. Jill ---------------------------- '90 R100GS '06 K1200 R "The Screaming Meanie" Jill McCarley, MD Child and Adolescent Psychiatry Member, Ketchup Advisory Board "Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness." From wayne at 2zars.com Tue Apr 20 11:48:58 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:48:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Photos from April breakfast Message-ID: http://2zars.com/mp/2010/04/19/april-2010-breakfast/ (WS) -- Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From jlburt at jlburt.com Tue Apr 20 11:14:52 2010 From: jlburt at jlburt.com (Jon Burt) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 06:14:52 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: References: <20100419100157.ZUDEK.1307278.root@ispmxfep14-z02> Message-ID: <201004201203.o3KC3pUf013717@dpmailrp05.doteasy.com> Hey - you girls settle down. You reminding me way too much of my plethora of ex-wives. Jon "Psilocybin is not just for breakfast" Burt At 05:45 AM 4/20/2010, Eric Ducdude wrote: >From: "Jack Riepe" >Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: > >Dudude Wrote: >"with a prize to the Mac-Pac member who rides >the furthest to the rally (not takes the most time to get there, ERIC)." > >Well Eric, you can kiss my fat ass. >Fondest regards, >Jack >--------------------------------------- >Hey Chubbs,,, >Read the f-in text !! I did not write that.....I believe my Scooter is what >they were talking about... >Duc _______________________________________________________ Unlimited Disk, Data Transfer, PHP/MySQL Domain Hosting http://www.doteasy.com From piechota at argolis.org Tue Apr 20 12:23:23 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:23:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: References: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> <66360DD154A24C89808962202AED1444@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> Message-ID: <4BCD9CBB.2020706@argolis.org> Dave Oehler wrote: > I was not really serious about the generator, it was more my Red Neck side > getting excited and thinking of ways to make a scene with tons of lights and > noise... it does have a Honda engine! just not a small quiet one. The tent > however is very much available, as well as a couple of ez ups, if they allow > that much land for a group to take up. I have never been to a rally so I > have no idea what to expect. I once saw a picture of an oilhead-powered AC generator somewhere, surely that would be allowed. :) From piechota at argolis.org Tue Apr 20 12:41:19 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:41:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> References: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> Message-ID: <4BCDA0EF.40204@argolis.org> Rick Sorensen wrote: > > ...Pac presence should be palpable at the 2011 MOA...in my mind's eye, I can > picture a tent a la "Airhead" style, but cooler...shag carpeting, swag/lava > lamps, and, of course, plenty of space for breaking down a bike while > kibitzing about every bolt that's being turned. > > Hmmmm, as the brain turns......I see a rental tent too, a party that would > be the talk of the rally: price of admission: one 'six-Pac' per person, plus > something to put out to eat.....with a prize to the Mac-Pac member who rides > the furthest to the rally (not takes the most time to get there, ERIC). How about the Mac-pac six-pac contains a sampler of various local beers (Victory, Sly Fox, Lancaster, Yuenling, etc.)? Related note: Rock Bottom in King of Prussia has a 'Goat Toppler' Maibock on tap right now. Ken, are you listening? :) From jasiii at earthlink.net Tue Apr 20 13:29:18 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:29:18 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] The Bloomsburg Rally Chair(s) will be announced at Redmond OR Message-ID: <545427.1271770158539.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > >Start thinking of bribes too!! > But not used crush washers.. something of value to all Jim James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From motorrader at verizon.net Tue Apr 20 16:22:04 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:22:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA References: <1271706479.27938.1370787863@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <80C9BFADD335416CB32AA1793C3BE229@dellfe483b726d> > I think the Pac presence should be palpable at the 2011 MOA...in my > mind's eye, I can picture a tent a la "Airhead" style, but cooler...shag > carpeting, swag/lava lamps, and, of course, plenty of space for breaking > down a bike while kibitzing about every bolt that's being turned. > > Jill I'll be bringing the lava lamps, the porcelin poodles and the glass swans :-) Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Tue Apr 20 17:29:33 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:29:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Gathering of Nortons, Washington Crossing, PA, April 18 Message-ID: For any vintage motorbike fan, the Gathering of the Nortons in Washington Crossing is not to be missed http://classicvelocity.squarespace.com If you missed that event last Sunday, you can try to make up for it by attending the AMCA meet in Oley, PA this weekend. Friday, Saturday and Sunday..................don't miss it ! Take the wife and kids and treat them to a good time. I know they'll enjoy the funnel cake. Ride 'em, Don't Hide 'em, Todd From mrmevans at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 18:47:13 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:47:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dominos Pizza to Sponsor MotoGP Team Message-ID: Here's a spy photo of the team bikes during a break in their race training in India: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaron-photoalbum/3863658645/sizes/l/ -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From motoedde2 at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 18:53:26 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:53:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dominos Pizza to Sponsor MotoGP Team In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Michael Evans wrote: > Here's a spy photo of the team bikes during a break in their race > training in India: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaron-photoalbum/3863658645/sizes/l/ If that topcase oven was available for my K75 with the 700watt alternator, and I stored the ingredients in my side bags...I could have a mobile franchise! -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From crocov502 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 20 20:05:20 2010 From: crocov502 at yahoo.com (Arla Hile) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Women cause earthquakes in Iran In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <731379.95978.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Brian Curry Yes, "real" earthquakes. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1267262/Iranian-cleric-Women-wear-revealing-clothing-cause-earthquakes.html "Women who wear revealing clothing and behave promiscuously are to blame for earthquakes, a senior Iranian cleric has said. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hmmm....These guys seem quite a bit like the crazies who blame the devastation from Katrina or the 9/11 terrorists on America's sinful behaviors. Arla From misevich at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 21:30:25 2010 From: misevich at gmail.com (Dave Misevich) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:30:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Women cause earthquakes in Iran In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Brian Curry wrote: > > "Women who wear revealing clothing and behave promiscuously are to > blame for earthquakes, a senior Iranian cleric has said. > A friend of mine axed if this is true, how is it possible that California is still attached to our continent? ;) -- Dave Misevich Dexter, MI '85 K100RT '98 R1100RT From wateredg at interlog.com Tue Apr 20 22:29:10 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:29:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Women cause earthquakes in Iran References: <731379.95978.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello all, From: "Arla Hile" > From: Brian Curry > > Yes, "real" earthquakes. > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1267262/Iranian-cleric-Women-wear-revealing-clothing-cause-earthquakes.html > > "Women who wear revealing clothing and behave promiscuously are to > blame for earthquakes, a senior Iranian cleric has said. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Hmmm....These guys seem quite a bit like the crazies who blame the > devastation from Katrina or the 9/11 terrorists on America's sinful > behaviors. Forgive my Lusty Western Ways, but I thought the "female opposition supporter" had very pretty eyes. On a more serous note, the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster has a very convincing graph that depicts an inverse correlation between the number of pirates on the open seas (decreasing over the past 200 years), and the number of natural disasters (increasing over 200 years). The graph clearly shows the logic behind The Church's chosen attire of pirate regalia. It's obvious that if we had more people dressing like pirates, then the number of natural disasters would decline. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From bergman at panix.com Tue Apr 20 22:37:59 2010 From: bergman at panix.com (bergman at panix.com) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:37:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Women cause earthquakes in Iran In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:29:10 EDT." References: <731379.95978.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <23493.1271803079@localhost> In the message dated: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:29:10 EDT, The pithy ruminations from "Steve Makohin" on were: => Hello all, => => From: "Arla Hile" => => > From: Brian Curry => > => > Yes, "real" earthquakes. => > => > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1267262/Iranian-cleric-Women-wear-revealing- => clothing-cause-earthquakes.html => > => > "Women who wear revealing clothing and behave promiscuously are to => > blame for earthquakes, a senior Iranian cleric has said. => > ------------------------------------------------------------------- => > => > Hmmm....These guys seem quite a bit like the crazies who blame the => > devastation from Katrina or the 9/11 terrorists on America's sinful => > behaviors. => => Forgive my Lusty Western Ways, but I thought the "female opposition => supporter" had very pretty eyes. :) => => On a more serous note, the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster has a very => convincing graph that depicts an inverse correlation between the number of => pirates on the open seas (decreasing over the past 200 years), and the Heretic. => number of natural disasters (increasing over 200 years). The graph clearly True Pastafarian Believers know that the correlation is between the number of pirates and global average temperature. Wait a second...was that correlation or causation? I always get them confused. Anyway, they're really the same thing, right? => shows the logic behind The Church's chosen attire of pirate regalia. It's => obvious that if we had more people dressing like pirates, then the number of => natural disasters would decline. I dunno...I've seen some of those pirate outfits, and some are really natural disasters on their own! Mark => => -Steve Makohin => '01 R1100S/ABS => Oakville, Ontario, Canada => => _______________________________________________ => Mac-pac-l mailing list => Mac-pac-l at jtan.com => http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l => From Ducdude at verizon.net Tue Apr 20 23:04:57 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:04:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] AMAZINGLY SIMPLE HOME REMEDIES Message-ID: <75953F3BA5DF4563BB445B4E5575AB7A@heilveil5e3fdd> 1. AVOID CUTTING YOURSELF WHEN SLICING VEGETABLES BY GETTING SOMEONE ELSE TO HOLD THE VEGETABLES WHILE YOU CHOP. 2. AVOID ARGUMENTS WITH THE FEMALES ABOUT LIFTING THE TOILET SEAT BY USING THE SINK. 3. FOR HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE SUFFERERS ~ SIMPLY CUT YOURSELF AND BLEED FOR A FEW MINUTES, THUS REDUCING THE PRESSURE ON YOUR VEINS. REMEMBER TO USE A TIMER. 4. A MOUSE TRAP PLACED ON TOP OF YOUR ALARM CLOCK WILL PREVENT YOU FROM ROLLING OVER AND GOING BACK TO SLEEP AFTER YOU HIT THE SNOOZE BUTTON. 5. IF YOU HAVE A BAD COUGH, TAKE A LARGE DOSE OF LAXATIVES. THEN YOU'LL BE AFRAID TO COUGH. 6. YOU ONLY NEED TWO TOOLS IN LIFE - WD-40 AND DUCT TAPE. IF IT DOESN'T MOVE AND SHOULD, USE THE WD-40. IF IT SHOULDN'T MOVE AND DOES, USE THE DUCT TAPE. 7. IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT WITH A HAMMER, YOU'VE GOT AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM. DAILY THOUGHT: SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE SLINKIES - NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT THEY BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN PUSHED DOWN THE STAIRS. (who is your slinky?) From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Tue Apr 20 23:53:36 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:53:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Beautiful Day For a Ride Message-ID: <024101cae0e4$b1a5aa30$4001a8c0@FastHP> Today was perfect for riding. I had a really nice ride this afternoon until I was on the way home and was suddenly behind a honey dipper. It was a particularly odiferous one at that. I backed off just in time because as he came to a halt the contents slopped over leaving a mainly liquid trail that I was able to avoid. I wish I could have gotten his license so I could report him but the back side of the truck was so caked with sh** that I could not read the plate. Marge From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 00:27:35 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:27:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: <80C9BFADD335416CB32AA1793C3BE229@dellfe483b726d> References: <1271706479.27938.1370787863@webmail.messagingengine.com> <80C9BFADD335416CB32AA1793C3BE229@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: On 4/20/10, Todd Trumbore wrote: > > I think the Pac presence should be palpable at the 2011 MOA...in my > > mind's eye, I can picture a tent a la "Airhead" style, but cooler...shag > > carpeting, swag/lava lamps, and, of course, plenty of space for breaking > > down a bike while kibitzing about every bolt that's being turned. > > > > Jill > > > > I'll be bringing the lava lamps, the porcelin poodles and the glass swans > :-) A big brown tractor trailer shows up and disgorges a huge amount of stuff. Don't forget the pink flamingos!!!! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 00:29:52 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:29:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Dominos Pizza to Sponsor MotoGP Team In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/20/10, edde m wrote: > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Michael Evans wrote: > > Here's a spy photo of the team bikes during a break in their race > > training in India: > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaron-photoalbum/3863658645/sizes/l/ > > > If that topcase oven was available for my K75 with the 700watt > alternator, and I stored the ingredients in my side bags...I could > have a mobile franchise! Time to go back to the 'stans. I am SURE you can find an oven fabricator there. No question about it. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 00:35:19 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:35:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Women cause earthquakes in Iran In-Reply-To: <23493.1271803079@localhost> References: <731379.95978.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <23493.1271803079@localhost> Message-ID: On 4/20/10, bergman at panix.com wrote: > In the message dated: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:29:10 EDT, > The pithy ruminations from "Steve Makohin" on > => shows the logic behind The Church's chosen attire of pirate regalia. It's > > => obvious that if we had more people dressing like pirates, then the number of > => natural disasters would decline. > > I dunno...I've seen some of those pirate outfits, and some are really natural > disasters on their own! I was thinking the same thing. However, I may have been mislead by those Western movies that generate "unpure" thoughts. And Earthquakes. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 00:36:41 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:36:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] AMAZINGLY SIMPLE HOME REMEDIES In-Reply-To: <75953F3BA5DF4563BB445B4E5575AB7A@heilveil5e3fdd> References: <75953F3BA5DF4563BB445B4E5575AB7A@heilveil5e3fdd> Message-ID: On 4/20/10, Eric Ducdude wrote: > DAILY THOUGHT: > SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE SLINKIES - NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT THEY > BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN PUSHED DOWN THE STAIRS. (who is your > slinky?) Some folks just put names on cartridges in the clip or the barrel. Some need multiple clips or speed loader setups... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jack.riepe at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 00:50:50 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:50:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] AMAZINGLY SIMPLE HOME REMEDIES In-Reply-To: <75953F3BA5DF4563BB445B4E5575AB7A@heilveil5e3fdd> References: <75953F3BA5DF4563BB445B4E5575AB7A@heilveil5e3fdd> Message-ID: Dear Eric (Duddude): If you are going to piss in the sink, remember to take the dishes out of it first. (Don't ask me how I know this.) -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From daviddenesowicz at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 01:16:12 2010 From: daviddenesowicz at gmail.com (David Denesowicz) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:16:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: References: <1271706479.27938.1370787863@webmail.messagingengine.com> <80C9BFADD335416CB32AA1793C3BE229@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: We can have Herwig's Austrian Bistro in State College cater the Mac-Pac buffet! On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > On 4/20/10, Todd Trumbore wrote: >> > I think the Pac presence should be palpable at the 2011 MOA...in my >> > mind's eye, I can picture a tent a la "Airhead" style, but cooler...shag >> > carpeting, swag/lava lamps, and, of course, plenty of space for breaking >> > down a bike while kibitzing about every bolt that's being turned. >> > >> > Jill >> > >> >> ?I'll be bringing the lava lamps, the porcelin poodles and the glass swans >> :-) > > A big brown tractor trailer shows up and disgorges a huge amount of stuff. > > Don't forget the pink flamingos!!!! > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ambassador BMW MOA ? | > Brian Curry ? ? ? ? ?| ? ? ?Is Getting Old, Getting Old? > "DEERsSLAYER" ? ? ? ?| ? ? ?Aging Factors Can be Stopped > K75RTs both coasts ? | ? ? ?Find out more about it at > Chester Springs PA ? | ? ? ?http://www.nsevideos.com > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- David Denesowicz Box 212 Malvern, PA 19355 215-850-7061 daviddenesowicz at gmail.com '79 R100/7 "You have to go out, you don't have to come back" From mrmevans at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 02:59:05 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 22:59:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Free GPS/Computer Route Plannign Workshop at Martin Moto - May 8th Message-ID: I know for some on list this may seem extremely basic, but others may find value in it. Martin Motosports in Boyertown is hosting a free GPS/Computer Ride Routing workshop. Here are the deets: What: Trip Planning & Routing with your GPS and Computer When: Saturday, May 8, 2010 1:00 PM Where: Martin Motorsports 1037 Unger Lane Boyertown, PA 19505 610-369-3120 Description: This will be a presentation on how to use your GPS and your computer to plan and route trips. We will cover the basics of using Google Maps, and how to use it to map out your route. We will also cover the basic functions of your GPS, how to use it to get you from point A to point B, and how to save favorite locations. We will then show you how to integrate your computer and GPS so that your GPS will follow the route you map out on the computer, whether you have a GPS that allows for advanced routing features with multiple destinations/waypoints, or we can jury-rig a system for you, from a GPS and notepad system to using numbered favorites. For those of you who have Microsoft Streets & Trips 2010, we can also cover the basics of planning a route on there and then transferring the waypoints to your GPS. Martin Motorsports has very graciously allowed us to use their space, as well as their Wi-Fi connection, so please bring your laptop, your GPS, any mapping software you use, and a connecting cable to link your GPS to your computer (if your GPS has that capability). Obviously you will want to make sure your GPS and laptop are charged up before the presentation. Martins will also be opening the presentation to the public and seating may be limited, so please make sure your arrive EARLY, FED, and READY. If you have a folding chair/table, please bring it. Pizza grease and electronics don't go well together, but if you want to try and order pizzas, I'm sure something can be arranged. We will obviously have some time constraints but we will try to make sure we at least get folks to become familiar with these basics: 1) Operating your GPS 2) Using Google Maps 3) How to use the 2 of them to plan and route a trip P.S. Those of you who have bluetooth GPSes and haven't yet figured out how to connect them to your phone and/or helmet headset, bring everything anyway so I can help you with them From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Apr 21 00:58:40 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:58:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Women cause earthquakes in Iran In-Reply-To: <731379.95978.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: Message-ID: <4BCE1580.21522.205FA8@localhost> > > > From: Brian Curry > > Yes, "real" earthquakes. > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1267262/Iranian-cler > ic-Women-wear-revealing-clothing-cause-earthquakes.html > > "Women who wear revealing clothing and behave promiscuously are to > blame for earthquakes, a senior Iranian cleric has said. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Hmmm....These guys seem quite a bit like the crazies who blame the > devastation from Katrina or the 9/11 terrorists on America's sinful > behaviors. > I disagree. Read this: 'Many women who do not dress modestly... lead young men astray, corrupt their chastity and spread adultery in society, which increases earthquakes.' I think the dude is just bragging if he thinks he can cause an earthquake. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Apr 21 00:47:33 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:47:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Photos from April breakfast In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4BCE12E5.15170.16324F@localhost> > http://2zars.com/mp/2010/04/19/april-2010-breakfast/ > (WS) > Thanks for the kind words about Chris. He had a great time, and he appreciated the hospitality. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From gary5410 at aol.com Wed Apr 21 04:00:53 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 00:00:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen windows are in! Message-ID: <8CCAF1E5EFF9A8C-6360-680B@Webmail-m119.sysops.aol.com> Brought the outside in.........windows really opened it up! pics....... http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#843289453_yMHXe Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From wayne at 2zars.com Wed Apr 21 10:18:13 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 06:18:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen windows are in! In-Reply-To: <8CCAF1E5EFF9A8C-6360-680B@Webmail-m119.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCAF1E5EFF9A8C-6360-680B@Webmail-m119.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <46kts5hkbaf18nd8v73o94btr40muhbgke@4ax.com> >Brought the outside in.........windows really opened it up! > >pics....... > >http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#843289453_yMHXe > Installed from the inside? IMWTK! Nice!! Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From rollybrown at verizon.net Wed Apr 21 10:20:31 2010 From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 06:20:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Interesting sound affect and why In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0244386D-FE1C-4AEE-979E-DAB17DB227FE@verizon.net> On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:03 AM, Brian Curry wrote: > The sound of SIX pusher prop engines. > > http://www.cowtown.net/proweb/b36_sound.htm > > The actual sound is at: > http://www.cowtown.net/proweb/images/b36.wav > > It is "interesting" to say the least. Rolly can surely appreciate the > issue cause it is "kinda" like tuning a guitar. Right. On an acoustic guitar, if you let your fingers rest on the pickguard and play the same note on two different strings, you can FEEL the out-of-phase waves of vibration if the notes are slightly off. Then you just adjust one of the strings till the vibe becomes even. Cheers, Rolly Rolly Brown Sellersville PA www.rollybrown.com www.myspace.com/rollybrown From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Apr 21 10:28:32 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 06:28:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen windows are in! In-Reply-To: <8CCAF1E5EFF9A8C-6360-680B@Webmail-m119.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BCE9B10.13402.22A1C5F@localhost> > Brought the outside in.........windows really opened it up! > > pics....... > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#84328945 > 3_yMHXe > > WOW. What a difference! Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From piechota at argolis.org Wed Apr 21 12:14:00 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:14:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Interesting sound affect and why In-Reply-To: <0244386D-FE1C-4AEE-979E-DAB17DB227FE@verizon.net> References: <0244386D-FE1C-4AEE-979E-DAB17DB227FE@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4BCEEC08.4070606@argolis.org> Rolly Brown wrote: > Right. On an acoustic guitar, if you let your fingers rest on the > pickguard and play the same note on two different strings, you can > FEEL the out-of-phase waves of vibration if the notes are slightly > off. Then you just adjust one of the strings till the vibe becomes even. You can use the harmonics as well (as I'm sure you know). IIRC, the harmonics were easier to pick out the phasing by ear, but I can't for the life of me remember how to do it (or it works differently on acoustic guitar than electric bass). From rollybrown at verizon.net Wed Apr 21 12:48:45 2010 From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:48:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Interesting sound affect and why In-Reply-To: <4BCEEC08.4070606@argolis.org> References: <0244386D-FE1C-4AEE-979E-DAB17DB227FE@verizon.net> <4BCEEC08.4070606@argolis.org> Message-ID: On Apr 21, 2010, at 8:14 AM, Matt Piechota wrote: > You can use the harmonics as well (as I'm sure you know). IIRC, > the harmonics were easier to pick out the phasing by ear, but I > can't for the life of me remember how to do it (or it works > differently on acoustic guitar than electric bass). Same thing. The first harmonic is at the 12th fret. It's the midpoint of the string. If you lightly touch the string there (over the fret WIRE, not over the fret) and pluck it with your other hand, then draw the left hand away, the center of the string will stay still, and the two sides will vibrate, creating a bell-like tone which is one octave above the open string. Harmonics may make the phasing easier to hear, but playing regular octaves or unisons makes it easier to FEEL the vibration in the body of the instrument. Cheers, Rolly Rolly Brown Sellersville PA www.rollybrown.com www.myspace.com/rollybrown From jack.riepe at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 13:01:32 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:01:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Interesting sound affect and why In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Sir: Three Harley's are louder than this. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From Doug at pencader.com Wed Apr 21 13:27:35 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:27:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Trips, Waypoints & Garmin 2720s Message-ID: <01a001cae156$6a0c0490$3e240db0$@com> Gang, Here's a quick update from the Southern Contingent (with apologies to Dr. Jill, the REAL Southern Contingent!) . . . my buddy Paul ("Tonto"), Jay "Tick Tock" Scales, and myself are plotting to do a Saddle Sore 1000 soon. Rogers George has graciously offered to be our officially "starter/finisher", so I think we've got the necessary logistics covered. This Saturday is the first potential launch date if the weather holds. While we are not total wet weather weenies, we don't want to ride for 18 - 20 hours in the rain, so we are watching the national weather map closely. At this point it looks like rain (including thunderstorms) may be an issue for North Carolina, Roanoke, and/or Harrisburg according to various forecast. Our back-up dates include May 15th and 22nd as well. So, here's my question for the guys & gals that are Garmin proficient . . . unfortunately, I missed Jim Robinson's Garmin Guru Gathering, so I don't know what the best method is for Trip & WayPoint planning is. Do I need a "program" to "do it right", or is that unnecessarily over-engineering the solution? Could someone please point me in the right direction for some good share-ware or off-the-shelf stuff if that's what it takes? Thanks in advance for your help, Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 14:07:57 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:07:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Trips, Waypoints & Garmin 2720s In-Reply-To: <01a001cae156$6a0c0490$3e240db0$@com> References: <01a001cae156$6a0c0490$3e240db0$@com> Message-ID: On 4/21/10, Doug wrote: > "Tick Tock" Scales, and myself are plotting to do a Saddle Sore 1000 soon. > This Saturday is the first potential launch date if the weather holds. While > we are not total wet weather weenies, we don't want to ride for 18 - 20 > hours in the rain, so we are watching the national weather map closely. At Ducdude and Anton to the white courtesy telephone please. Think October or November and going back and forth across PA with lower speed limits. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From anton at largiader.com Wed Apr 21 14:22:55 2010 From: anton at largiader.com (Anton Largiader) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:22:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Trips, Waypoints & Garmin 2720s In-Reply-To: References: <01a001cae156$6a0c0490$3e240db0$@com> Message-ID: <4BCF0A3F.9040804@largiader.com> > Think > October or November and going back and forth across PA with lower > speed limits. I wouldn't say back and forth. ChSp to Carlisle, Hagerstown, Morgantown, Charleston, Akron, across PA and down the NEext to Bruce's house. -- ============================================== Anton Largiader Charlottesville, VA anton at largiader.com http://largiader.com No online social networks, please. ============================================== From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 01:58:05 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:58:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: <1271706479.27938.1370787863@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1271706479.27938.1370787863@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Jill McCarley wrote: > (SNIP) > I think the Pac presence should be palpable at the 2011 MOA...in my > mind's eye, I can picture a tent a la "Airhead" style, but cooler...shag > carpeting, swag/lava lamps, and, of course, plenty of space for breaking > down a bike while kibitzing about every bolt that's being turned. > > Jill > ---------------------------- > '90 R100GS > '06 K1200 R ?"The Screaming Meanie" > > Jill McCarley, MD > Child and Adolescent Psychiatry > Member, Ketchup Advisory Board > "Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness." > Jill: Don't forget the goat. Will Llewelyn be available for the "Gathering of the Pac?" Jim could give us an animal husband demonstration with Riepe performing the ceremony. -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 12:27:42 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:27:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] For Car Nuts. . . Message-ID: http://kansastravel.org/grandpasoldfordgarage.htm -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 12:50:10 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:50:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: <4BCD9CBB.2020706@argolis.org> References: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> <66360DD154A24C89808962202AED1444@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> <4BCD9CBB.2020706@argolis.org> Message-ID: In deference to Algore, we should construct a windmill generating enough electricity to power a lava lamp. Dick On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Matt Piechota wrote: > Dave Oehler wrote: > >> I was not really serious about the generator, it was more my Red Neck side >> getting excited and thinking of ways to make a scene with tons of lights and >> noise... it does have a Honda engine! just not a small quiet one. ?The tent >> however is very much available, as well as a couple of ez ups, if they allow >> that much land for a group to take up. ?I have never been to a rally so I >> have no idea what to expect. > > I once saw a picture of an oilhead-powered AC generator somewhere, > surely that would be allowed. :) > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick From motoedde2 at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 14:50:26 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:50:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: References: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> <66360DD154A24C89808962202AED1444@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> <4BCD9CBB.2020706@argolis.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Dick wrote: > In deference to Algore, we should construct a windmill generating > enough electricity to power a lava lamp. > Dick Are you implying there will be enough hot air in the area to power the windmill consistently? -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 15:05:26 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:05:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: References: <8DD344DDA9B4420B84F6075D821ECC6F@Tekki> <66360DD154A24C89808962202AED1444@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> <4BCD9CBB.2020706@argolis.org> Message-ID: On 4/21/10, edde m wrote: > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Dick wrote: > > In deference to Algore, we should construct a windmill generating > > enough electricity to power a lava lamp. > > Dick > > > Are you implying there will be enough hot air in the area to power the > windmill consistently? With Al Gore and the other AGW'rs assuredly. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From ephoet at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 15:24:19 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:24:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Interesting sound affect and why In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Sir: > > Three Harley's are louder than this. > > -- > Fondest regards, > Jack ______________________________________________ Close up, perhaps. At 30,000 ft, likely not. 80 Hp just can't generate that much noise..... but it sure can be annoying. EPH "The propulsion system alone made the B-36 a very unusual aircraft. All B-36s featured six 28-cylinder Pratt & Whitney R-4360 'Wasp Major' radial engines. Even though the prototype R-4360s delivered a total of 18,000 hp (13 MW), early B-36s were slow and required long takeoff runs. The situation improved with later versions delivering 3,800 hp (2.8 MW) apiece.[24] Each engine drove an immense three-bladed propeller, 19 ft (5.8 m) in diameter, mounted in the pusher configuration. This unusual configuration prevented propeller turbulence from interfering with airflow over the wing," >From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_B-36 From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Apr 21 16:00:10 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:00:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ride for the Record, Ride for the Cure.....GWR Message-ID: <916E8FAB85BB4B12A944180465DCD5AE@dellfe483b726d> Fellow Riders, Things are shaping up pretty well for this upcoming ride on May 2nd. Clearing the record. My apologies, the correct name of the charity for this ride is: St. Jude Children's Research Hospital and once again all donations are voluntary, nobody will be collecting a cent for this event. Jack Riepe said he would be sending out a press release for this ride soon, this should help to stir some additional interest. Also, we could use a couple more volunteers at the sign up table. So far we have: Jack Riepe, Dick Bregstein & Roddy Irwin. It would be nice to have three more at the table for the sign-up. I will provide donuts, coffee and/or breakfast sandwiches for ALL volunteers. Also, if anyone knows of someone who has a camcorder or equivalent and would be willing to record video of this event, we could use their assistance. Please let me know asap. We are going to need more than one video camera for documentation. I will provide tapes or reimburse you for yours. As far as the parade/ride goes. I want to attempt to clear up any confusion. GWR requires all riders to be in a parade formation for a minimum of two miles. This means two abreast in a fairly tight group, they don't want lagers, slackers or abnormal gaps......meaning nothing more than two bikes lengths apart from the bike in front of you and the bike in back. So lets do our best as far as that goes. This two mile stretch needs to be video taped for verification. Now after our 2-3 mile parade, I will continue leading a scenic ride through Bucks county for those who wish to do so. This is of course optional. I don't have any wild expectations of trying to keep a group this large intact. The route will be well marked at ALL turns and confirmation markings after the turns or confirmation marks after intersections to let you know you are still ON COURSE. So, one can ride in a small group, a larger group or ride on your own, at your own pace. (Route sheets will be available if desired ) The route will be short and sweet, utilizing some of the more scenic roads of Bucks County. All well paved.....no dirt, no gravel, no tricky hairpins turns, no low flying aircraft, no volcanic ash, no goat paths and no water hazards. The pace could easily be brisk if desired, as there are some nice sweepers as we work our way back to Montgomeryville Cycle Center. Bob Jones, proprietor of MCC, will be manning the grill while awaiting our return to the dealership for more festivities. I sure hope that you will join in on this event, it should be a fun time. Thanks for your interest, participation and please help spread the word. Gates should open around 9 - 9:30 am. try to arrive by 10 am as it will take some time to get everyone signed in. Now what do you say........let's break the record, have some fun and try to help out some children in need ! Regards, Todd Trumbore From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 16:23:23 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:23:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ride for the Record, Ride for the Cure.....GWR In-Reply-To: <916E8FAB85BB4B12A944180465DCD5AE@dellfe483b726d> References: <916E8FAB85BB4B12A944180465DCD5AE@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: On 4/21/10, Todd Trumbore wrote: > I will provide donuts, coffee and/or breakfast sandwiches for ALL > volunteers. I can see a BIG BROWN tractor trailer going through a White Castle Drive through early in the morning.... Jack's favorite snack. > minimum of two miles. This means two abreast in a fairly tight group, they > don't want lagers, slackers or abnormal gaps......meaning nothing more than > two bikes lengths apart from the bike in front of you and the bike in back. Comment Two abreast and tight is ASKING for a SPECTACULAR crash. Will GWR pay the bills? The "usual" safe "stagger" reduces the chances of something REALLY NEWSWORTHY since it BLEEDS of "200 motorcyclists close Rt 309 for 6 hours after massive crash." That type of PR is not needed. Sick mind thought. See if Pocono raceway could be used. Over 2 miles I think, and "easy to organize" and no cross traffic. Just people trying to stay upright on a banked turn "not at 150mph". -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 16:49:46 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:49:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Bangladesh of all places will have a new LARGE nuclear power plant before US... Message-ID: I just read this: http://www.focus-nuclear.com/news/newsdetail.aspx?newsID=24808 "The Bangladesh Government has given approval for a deal with Russia to build a 1000MW nuclear power plant. .... The plant is expected to cost up to USD 2 billion and to begin generating electricity by 2014." I am not sure that their electrical grid will be able to handle that much power from one place. If the plant trips, expect a LOT of darkness to show up, loosing that much power all at once unexpectedly. Meanwhile back in the US: http://www.focus-nuclear.com/news/newsdetail.aspx?NewsID=24552 "On 26 March 2010, the Kentucky Senate passed a bill to end a 26 year ban on new nuclear power plants in the state. A conference committee with lawmakers from both the House and Senate will work out the differences between the two bills." Whoopie!!!! I am sure we will build a new nuke REAL SOON NOW... Uh huh.... Flapping gums is SO MUCH EASIER. The Legislatures demonstrate it very well. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Wed Apr 21 17:32:45 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ride for the Record, Ride for the Cure.....GWR In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <397000636.13850801271871165699.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >The "usual" safe "stagger" reduces the chances of something REALLY >NEWSWORTHY since it BLEEDS of "200 motorcyclists close Rt 309 for 6 >hours after massive crash." > >That type of PR is not needed. I rode in Rolling Thunder in Washington D.C. for many years. It was no holds barred scary. Released from the Pentagon Parking lot, Harleys going 8 to 10 bikes abreast across three lanes around the Mall, to the Veit Nam War Memorial. Speed, some were going fast, other slow. Not really a "fun" ride but that was not the point. This thing should be fun. Two abreast in two lanes is no big deal, two in one lane is different. If it is one lane I would have to say that staggered should be acceptable, and if it is not, then its not worth going for it. Ignoring safety for the sake of a line or two in a book is just not smart. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From jack.riepe at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 17:47:47 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:47:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Amazing! Another Former Political Appointee From A Powerful Position Is Now A Supersalesman Salesman... Message-ID: The former head of Homeland Security, Secretary Michael Chertoff, has a new job. He's with a company that specializes in security services and products. In his former job, Chertoff was responsible for devising programs that extended national security into the future. Now, he's with a company selling systems tailored to meet parameters he formerly set. Imagine that. Things work out pretty well for extremely talented guys. Remember, it was only four months ago that a guy in Nigeria sidestepped billions of dollars worth of security networking, after paying cash for a ticket, traveling without luggage nor a passport, and threatened to blow up an airliner over Detroit. How much do you want to bet that what we really need for tighter airline security is a multi-billion dollar system, that keeps track of the library books you read, the internet messages you sent, and all US drivers license data. And I bet I know the guy who'll have one for sale shortly. God, I wish I had a practical trade. http://govconwire.com/2010/03/michael-chertoff-joins-board-of-directors-at-bae/ Nothing exceeds like excess. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From Doug at pencader.com Wed Apr 21 18:28:28 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:28:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Trips, Waypoints & Garmin 2720s In-Reply-To: <1BC92F8C1B0CB645AC6D0E712B2C23073E1F89A1@aph0e33a.us002.siemens.net> References: <01a001cae156$6a0c0490$3e240db0$@com> <1BC92F8C1B0CB645AC6D0E712B2C23073E1F89A1@aph0e33a.us002.siemens.net> Message-ID: <01f001cae180$7263b140$572b13c0$@com> DuckDude wrote; >>> snips > Subject: RE: [MAC-PAC] OT - Trips, Waypoints & Garmin 2720s > Be prepared for a story of pain anguish and suffering about two riders > quest to do a SS1000 in November in the rain.... >>> more snippage > From this trip I now know how far I can push myself as well as the > penalties for hanging it out quite so far.. > Read it for your self.. > http://www.largiader.com/stories/ss1k.html >>> more snips, and >>> end Duc, Nice article. I have also spoken with Mz. Bush about her "outing" for which she never received (or applied!) her certificate. We are juiced about giving it a shot and are watching the weather closely (my buddy has no fewer than THREE weather apps on his Blackberry) to avoid a story too much like yours. Thanks for the heads-up. Best, Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From Doug at pencader.com Wed Apr 21 19:33:29 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:33:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Trips, Waypoints & Garmin 2720s (LONG POST) In-Reply-To: <1BC92F8C1B0CB645AC6D0E712B2C23073E1F9678@aph0e33a.us002.siemens.net> References: <01a001cae156$6a0c0490$3e240db0$@com> <1BC92F8C1B0CB645AC6D0E712B2C23073E1F89A1@aph0e33a.us002.siemens.net> <01f001cae180$7263b140$572b13c0$@com> <1BC92F8C1B0CB645AC6D0E712B2C23073E1F9678@aph0e33a.us002.siemens.net> Message-ID: <020c01cae189$87b4e970$971ebc50$@com> DD responded; >>> snips >>> From this trip I now know how far I can push myself as well as the >>> penalties for hanging it out quite so far.. >>> Read it for your self.. >>> http://www.largiader.com/stories/ss1k.html >>>>> more snips, and >>>>> end >> Duc, >> Nice article. I have also spoken with Mz. Bush about her "outing" for which >>> snips > Remember you have 24 hours to do 1000 miles nothing says you have to do > it in one sitting.. > If the world cooperates you can do 500 miles in the morning say from > 0400-1200hrs then take a break and get back on and head back... > Another thought is doing a Bun Burner instead "1500 miles in 36 hours" > is in some ways that easier. Do 750 miles starting at say 0400 on day > one and that should take you to 1500-1600hrs that is 11-12 hours at a > good pace and then Get a hotel till 0400 on day two and ride 750miles > till 1500hrs again that is 33 hours and 1500 miles and YOU HAD AN 11 > HOUR NAP and you have 3 hours at the end just to be safe.... > But most of the riding is in the sun shine and you get to nap eat and > sleep in the middle...Piece of cake You could even push the time table > up a bit leave at 0530 and have near 100% sun light while riding Sunrise > on May 1st is @ 0532hrs and sunset is 1954hrs > Eric >>> the end, again Eric, Thanks for all that info - good options, and something worth contemplating. I think if I were doing it myself I might opt for the Bun Burner. Butt, given that there's three of us, it's a bit of a committee decision, and since all of us agree (at least at this point!) that we don't want to be riding from 12 - 3 AM if possible, our plan involves rolling out at 4 AM and finishing by 10 - 11 PM. There's lots of info on-line as to "recommended methods", and the one that we've adopted involves reasonably legal speeds and planned rest stops of relatively short duration, apart from two longer stops at a couple of points along the way. We do want to take advantage of every ray of sunshine, too, so we shall see. I do believe that if you had the opportunity to do these every 6 months or so, you'd find that optimal blend that works best for you. However, we (Jay, Paul, and myself) are agreed that while it may not be a perfect recipe for any one of us, we can all live with it. Our BIG goal is to finish safely, finish together. We'll keep you posted. Thanks again. Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From wayne at 2zars.com Wed Apr 21 20:23:04 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:23:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Delaware Water Gap Message-ID: I was contemplating taking a day off and taking a ride to the Water Gap. For those who have been there, any recommendations for things to see and things to avoid? I intend on taking lots of pictures, so scenic is good. Feel free to ping me offline. -- Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From Ducdude at verizon.net Wed Apr 21 22:42:46 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:42:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA References: <20100419100157.ZUDEK.1307278.root@ispmxfep14-z02> <201004201203.o3KC3pUf013717@dpmailrp05.doteasy.com> Message-ID: >>From: "Jack Riepe" >>Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: >> >>Dudude Wrote: >>"with a prize to the Mac-Pac member who rides >>the furthest to the rally (not takes the most time to get there, ERIC)." >> >>Well Eric, you can kiss my fat ass. >>Fondest regards, >>Jack >>--------------------------------------- >>Hey Chubbs,,, >>Read the f-in text !! I did not write that.....I believe my Scooter is >>what >>they were talking about... >>Duc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Burt" > Hey - you girls settle down. You reminding me way too much of my plethora > of ex-wives. > > Jon "Psilocybin is not just for breakfast" Burt ------------------------------------------------------------ Jon, I am goina scratch your eyes out for buttin in.. Pass the shrooms over here.. Duc and puke From Ducdude at verizon.net Wed Apr 21 22:40:21 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:40:21 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Trips, Waypoints & Garmin 2720s References: <01a001cae156$6a0c0490$3e240db0$@com> <4BCF0A3F.9040804@largiader.com> Message-ID: > >> Think >> October or November and going back and forth across PA with lower >> speed limits. > > I wouldn't say back and forth. ChSp to Carlisle, Hagerstown, Morgantown, > Charleston, Akron, across PA and down the NEext to Bruce's house. > ============================================== > Anton Largiader Charlottesville, VA Yea it took 42 years of straight riding in the rain to complete... At least that is what it felt like...I have NEVER been that cold before or since.. Duc From jack.riepe at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 00:36:14 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:36:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Delaware Water Gap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Wayne: Avoid the New Jersey parts. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From rsorens at comcast.net Thu Apr 22 01:25:58 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:25:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Delaware Water Gap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <835356E1A43143FB8AB97CE3F848EF45@Tekki> >Dear Wayne: > >Avoid the New Jersey parts. Disagree, Jack. There are TON of fun roads in the area....east of the Water Gap and both south and north of I-80. From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 01:32:47 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:32:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Delaware Water Gap In-Reply-To: <835356E1A43143FB8AB97CE3F848EF45@Tekki> References: <835356E1A43143FB8AB97CE3F848EF45@Tekki> Message-ID: On 4/21/10, Rick Sorensen wrote: > >Dear Wayne: > > > >Avoid the New Jersey parts. > > Disagree, Jack. > > There are TON of fun roads in the area....east of the Water Gap and both > south and north of I-80. And if you do something dumb it is only an out of state ticket and money but not points. Now if you do something dumb on 209 it used to be only a Federal rap and did not show up on PA's records. Not sure if that is true. However, the area is INFESTED with hooved rats bent on stupid suicides. BIG caution on them. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 01:37:57 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:37:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Vote for this party in the UK elections Message-ID: Today is the last day to register for voting in the UK elections. I am voting for the Icelandic Volcanic party, they have done more on stopping immigration in 5 days than Labour has done in 12 years.......... ... says a friend of mine!?........... After the debacle with Dutch and British banks/and their clients, Iceland's on the verge of kicking the (financial)?bucket;?its last wish is?to have its ashes scattered over Europe.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA?? | Brian Curry??????????|??????Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER"????????|??????Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts?? |??????Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA?? |??????http://www.nsevideos.com From kgbruce1 at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 02:23:33 2010 From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:23:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] April RIDERS' DINNER!!! Message-ID: Sue C. writes: Dear Dinner Guy, my husband rides a BMW GS and never takes me anywhere nice for dinner unless it?s with his goofy bunch of motorcycle friends. I?ve been cooped up on this hill all winter and am anxious to go out to eat somewhere decent. Can you please put something together this month so maybe he?ll take me out for a change? Thanks for your kind consideration and please don?t tell him I sent this message?..he?s, well, ya know?.sensitive. Sue C., Cooped up in Coatesville Dear Cooped Up, You?re in luck! The RIDERS? DINNER will be held next Wednesday night, April, 28th at the Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant in Phoenixville http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/phoenixville/ I think you?ll find the Iron Hill restaurant up to your expectations as we?ve dined with them before at another location and we all enjoyed it very much. They have a fine menu and beverage selection and the service I?ve experienced has been first rate. Please encourage him to take you, I think you?ll enjoy it, despite the questionable character(s) of the group. Don?t worry, I?ll be sure to exclude this message from the invitation so he?ll never know of your request. (Funny though, GS guys are usually so thoughtful??) Very Truly Yours, Dinner Guy Hear Ye! Hear Ye! RIDERS? DINNER next Wednesday night, April 28th at the Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant in Phoenixvfille, Pa http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/phoenixville/. We will gather at 6:30 (give or take) to enjoy fine food & beverage, plan trips, talk smack, relax and explore what could possibly be going through someone?s mind to wear a button down tattersall shirt to the monthly breakfast. It?s Spring, the riding contest has begun so if the weather?s good let?s put on a few miles on the road to dethroning the Cheeseheads! If the weather doesn?t cooperate, go ahead and cage it, just get yourself out to the Riders? Dinner next Wednesday night! The fine folks at Iron Hill are looking forward to us coming because I didn?t own up to who we really are. Please let me know if you can make it so I can give them a heads up. However, if you don?t know you?re coming ?til the last minute that?s OK?.just make it to the Riders? Dinner! Winter is over??get out there and EAT, RIDE, WRENCH, REPEAT!!! Thanks, Ken Bruce -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100421/d9aa3b4b/attachment.html From ironbt01 at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 04:06:45 2010 From: ironbt01 at gmail.com (Greg Roberts) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:06:45 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RTE Catfish! Message-ID: I know itis a bit out of the way for most of you, but I'm extending an invitation to any Mac-Pac'ers that might want to attend and enjoy some fine country fried catfish. Lunch, May1, 2010 Ezell's Fish Camp, Lavaca, AL on the NW corner of the intersection of AL Hwy 10 and the Tombigbee River I've contacted the folks at Ezell's and they are looking forward to seeing us again this year. e-mail if you have any questions. RSVP requested but not required. Greg Roberts ironbt01 at gmail.com From kimi.bush at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 10:21:23 2010 From: kimi.bush at gmail.com (Kimi Bush) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 06:21:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] April RIDERS' DINNER!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Excellent! I think I can be there. I might be a little late, but you can save me a seat, Ken ; ) By the way Corey- this does NOT count as my birthday date. :P I can't let you off the hook that easy. From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Thu Apr 22 11:12:24 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:12:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RTE Catfish! References: Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Roberts I know itis a bit out of the way for most of you, but I'm extending an invitation to any Mac-Pac'ers that might want to attend and enjoy some fine country fried catfish. Lunch, May1, 2010 Ezell's Fish Camp, Lavaca, AL on the NW corner of the intersection of AL Hwy 10 and the Tombigbee River I've contacted the folks at Ezell's and they are looking forward to seeing us again this year. _______________________________________________ Hmmm .... Tombigbee River.....where have I heard that name before? Bing bing bing! Oh yea the Tennesee Tombigbee Waterway near Fulton MS only 172 miles due north of ya is where I crashed my GS Adventure. Would love to come, but thats a long way down for a weekend jount! :-) Jim Robinson West Chester PA From rollybrown at verizon.net Thu Apr 22 11:35:37 2010 From: rollybrown at verizon.net (Rolly Brown) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:35:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Delaware Water Gap In-Reply-To: References: <835356E1A43143FB8AB97CE3F848EF45@Tekki> Message-ID: On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > On 4/21/10, Rick Sorensen wrote: >>> Dear Wayne: >>> >>> Avoid the New Jersey parts. >> >> Disagree, Jack. >> >> There are TON of fun roads in the area....east of the Water Gap >> and both >> south and north of I-80. > > And if you do something dumb it is only an out of state ticket and > money but not points. And, lest you forget: http://www.lakotawolf.com/ We made a Mac-Pac run up there several years ago: http://rollybrown.com/wolves.html Back when we were young... Cheers, Rolly Rolly Brown Sellersville PA www.rollybrown.com www.myspace.com/rollybrown From gary5410 at aol.com Thu Apr 22 12:43:46 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:43:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT lovefest interrupted Message-ID: <8CCB030959733F2-1D3C-A8FA@Webmail-m104.sysops.aol.com> Spring is in the air and the loving was about to start when I came along and ruined everything! http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Other/Animals/11923756_uYZ3c#844504860_jvyWY Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From piechota at argolis.org Thu Apr 22 12:47:38 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:47:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Delaware Water Gap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BD0456A.80900@argolis.org> Wayne Woodruff wrote: > I was contemplating taking a day off and taking a ride to the Water > Gap. For those who have been there, any recommendations for things to > see and things to avoid? I intend on taking lots of pictures, so > scenic is good. > > Feel free to ping me offline. > I did a really nice kayak run out there a few years back. Outfitter gives you everything you need and drops you off upstream. Then picks you up when you're done. PA 611 is a nice little ride, runs along the PA side of the river. From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Thu Apr 22 12:59:42 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oley Antique Show Message-ID: <279635392.14190531271941182935.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> The Oley show is this weekend. I am Daddy Daycare on Saturday and thinking about loading up the two year old and checking it out. Anyone else plan to go Sat. AM? John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Apr 22 13:58:27 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:58:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oley Antique Show References: <279635392.14190531271941182935.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <6DE5D4AA4B974EE680735BA1EEBD30DC@dellfe483b726d> > The Oley show is this weekend. I am Daddy Daycare on Saturday and thinking > about loading up the two year old and checking it out. Anyone else plan to > go Sat. AM? > > John Clauss I plan on attending Saturday. See you there. Todd From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 14:22:52 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:22:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Motorcycle deaths unaccountably plunge after long rise In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "After rising steadily for nearly a dozen years to set a record in 2008, the number of people killed nationally in motorcycle accidents dropped dramatically last year, according to a report issued Thursday. " http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/22/AR2010042200005.html Interesting blurb here: ========= Ahmed cautioned against reading too much into data from a nine-month period. "The fact that there was a blip from one year to the next won't really tell us that much," he said. "The upward trend has been going on for 12 years. Show me several years of downward, and then we have something." ======== When the DATA does not support their preconceived notion (MODEL) NOW WE HAVE to wonder whether the DATA is good or an aberration. But when it does support their model (Unvalidated model too BTW.) then we HAVE TO BELIEVE IT and ACT on it... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 14:49:44 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:49:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Musta been a horrendous wedgie.... Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-6pQwo_9r4 (WS) Man uses a rope tow on a ski slope by STEPPING OVER IT, not grabbing the hook.... (Less than one minute.) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From chrisjac at ptd.net Thu Apr 22 15:27:08 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 11:27:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Motorcycle deaths unaccountably plunge after long rise In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BD06ACC.5050704@ptd.net> Brian Curry wrote: > > When the DATA does not support their preconceived notion (MODEL) NOW > WE HAVE to wonder whether the DATA is good or an aberration. But when > it does support their model (Unvalidated model too BTW.) then we HAVE > TO BELIEVE IT and ACT on it... > > > You expect otherwise from the government? Chris Jaccarino From mrmevans at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 17:28:39 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:28:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Motorcycle deaths unaccountably plunge after long rise In-Reply-To: <4BD06ACC.5050704@ptd.net> References: <4BD06ACC.5050704@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Chris wrote: > Brian Curry wrote: >> >> When the DATA does not support their preconceived notion (MODEL) NOW >> WE HAVE to wonder whether the DATA is good or an aberration. ?But when >> it does support their model (Unvalidated model too BTW.) then we HAVE >> TO BELIEVE IT and ACT on it... >> >> >> Dear Brian, I don't know about you, but regardless of how the data is collected or by whom, my action is that I will continue my attempts to not die while riding my motorcycle. Carry on. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From crocov502 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 22 18:15:01 2010 From: crocov502 at yahoo.com (Arla Hile) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 11:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Motorcycle deaths unaccountably plunge after long rise In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <81549.35720.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Brian Curry When the DATA does not support their preconceived notion (MODEL) NOW WE HAVE to wonder whether the DATA is good or an aberration. But when it does support their model (Unvalidated model too BTW.) then we HAVE TO BELIEVE IT and ACT on it... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ha! They speculate that there's less riding going on, but I sure as heck can't notice it, if anything there may be more commuting going on. Certainly if there's an increase, it isn't as huge as the drop in fatalities. Beware of interpretations of data! It is, inevitably, arm-waving at best, and an opportunity to express biases at worst (and also the most fun part of writing a paper!) Arla From rayreeves4 at juno.com Thu Apr 22 19:47:41 2010 From: rayreeves4 at juno.com (Yar Seveer) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:47:41 GMT Subject: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar Birthday Party!!! Message-ID: <20100422.154741.18734.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> Party - Birthday Party Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010 Time: 1:00pm - 9:00pm Location: Yar's Place / Buckingham Lumber 4469 Upper Mountain Road Buckingham, PA 18912 View Map http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=4469+Upper+Mountain+Road,+Buckingham,+PA&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=4469+Upper+Mountain+Rd,+New+Hope,+Bucks,+Pennsylvania+18938&z=16 So it's my birthday & I figured what better way to spend it then with some of my friends (& I thought I'd invite the MAC-PAC too. ;) ;) I'm not worried about any big deal about it but if I can use it as an excuse to get a bunch of friends together for an outdoor party on a nice day then heck, why not? Yes, I know, it's last minute... But if you want to come & can please let me know ASAP. The forecast is good!!! Hot dogs, chips, snacks provided. You bring yourself & have a good time. I have lots of hot dogs for the event. Yes, it will be a real sausage fest. The only presents I want is your presence are my party. (don't bother with cards either unless you want to write me a poem or something.) Outdoor party, bring some chairs if you have them. If there is anything else you'd like to bring let me know. For directions, see map link above. 215-794-0902 If anyone wants to come early to help set up then let me know, I'm sure I could use some help. weather forecast http://www.accuweather.com/us/pa/buckingham/18912/forecast-weekends.asp RSVP ASAP rayreeves4 at gmail.com or 215-794-0902 (answering machine announcement says "You've reached a little bit of sunshine". Leave a message with your number.) Yar Seveer K75S 93' K75S 90' RIP Nighthawk 450 86' RIP ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4bd0a7fe25fc8a4077st03vuc From Braveirwin at aol.com Thu Apr 22 20:12:37 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:12:37 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oley Antique Show Message-ID: <6cb5a.3e386590.390207b5@aol.com> In a message dated 4/22/2010 9:58:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, motorrader at verizon.net writes: I plan on attending Saturday. See you there. Todd ======================================= What is the featured Marque this year? Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 20:24:57 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:24:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: If you don't understand electrical schematics Message-ID: this explanation will help A LOT!!!! http://xkcd.com/730/ (WS) Everything will be perfectly clear for those that are electrically challenged. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 20:55:35 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:55:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oley Antique Show In-Reply-To: <6cb5a.3e386590.390207b5@aol.com> References: <6cb5a.3e386590.390207b5@aol.com> Message-ID: .... > > What is the featured Marque this year? ?Roddy. Per Marge's MacPac calendar, it is Crocker Motorcycle. http://www.crockermotorcycleco.com/ -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 21:18:59 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:18:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] K1300 vs VFR 1200 Comparo Message-ID: You may find this of interest. EPH http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/2010-bmw-k1300s-vs-honda-vfr1200f-shootout-89414.html 2010 BMW K1300S vs Honda VFR1200F Shootout The sportbikes of sport-tourers! By Kevin Duke, Apr. 09, 2010, Photography by Alfonse Palaima, Video by Fonzie Marketing mavens created the word ?tweens? when they realized kids aged 9 to 13 were spending more than $1 billion a year on stuff and needed to describe the demographic. And these two bikes ? Honda?s new VFR1200F and BMW?s new-for-?09 K1300S ? occupy a similar in-between niche. On one end are liter-sized sportbikes bred on the racetrack, like those in our recent 2010 Literbike Shootout. While the other end is occupied by big sport-tourers like the BMW K1300GT, Honda ST1300, Kawasaki Concours 14 and Yamaha FJR1300 we compared last summer. When the VFR1200F was introduced to us last fall in Japan, Honda engineers described a hypothetical middle-aged rider who wanted a sportbike to ride on twisty roads but who has to travel 75 to 100 miles to get to them. Full-on 1000cc sportbikes are too uncompromised for long-distance trips, becoming uncomfortable for aging wrists, and have maintenance-heavy chain drives. But the 1300cc class of sport-tourers scale in at or above a porky 650 lbs, compromising their agility in sport-riding situations. Kawasaki and Yamaha have described their S-Ts as ?supersport tourers.? If that?s the case, then the VFR and K1300S are super-duper supersport tourers! From jasiii at earthlink.net Thu Apr 22 21:26:31 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:26:31 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: If you don't understand electrical schematics Message-ID: <27785394.1271971591418.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: If you don't understand electrical schematics > >this explanation will help A LOT!!!! > >http://xkcd.com/730/ > >Everything will be perfectly clear for those that are electrically challenged. > This does make it clear and funny I do like the EE201 part, way, way back in time Jim James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 21:40:47 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:40:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] K1300 vs VFR 1200 Comparo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Erik Hoet wrote: > You may find this of interest. ?EPH > > http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/2010-bmw-k1300s-vs-honda-vfr1200f-shootout-89414.html > You may also like this comparo on the liter bikes. They actually liked the BMW S1000RR..... http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/2010-literbike-shootout-rsv4-r-vs-s1000rr-vs-cbr1000rr-vs-zx10r-89393.html From chrisjac at ptd.net Thu Apr 22 22:11:37 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:11:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar Birthday Party!!! In-Reply-To: <20100422.154741.18734.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100422.154741.18734.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <4BD0C999.1020003@ptd.net> Yar Seveer wrote: > Party - Birthday Party > Date: > Saturday, April 24, 2010 > Time: > 1:00pm - 9:00pm > Location: > Yar's Place / Buckingham Lumber > > Sorry cant make it...have to work! Happy B-Day. Chris Jaccarino From motoedde2 at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 22:41:09 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:41:09 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: PA Turnpike Officials and DUI Message-ID: What gives with the consistent connections? http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20100422_Turnpike_official_charged_with_DUI.html -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From rsorens at comcast.net Thu Apr 22 23:22:50 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:22:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RTE Catfish! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <06143F8324F1432AABDAAC7A5E956C48@Tekki> >...Would love to come, but thats a long way down for a weekend jount! :-) \/ Rick From jasiii at earthlink.net Thu Apr 22 23:24:47 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:24:47 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar Birthday Party!!! Message-ID: <12394984.1271978688091.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >Subject: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar Birthday Party!!! > >Party - Birthday Party >Date: >Saturday, April 24, 2010 >Time: >1:00pm - 9:00pm >Location: >Yar's Place / Buckingham Lumber > >4469 Upper Mountain Road >Buckingham, PA 18912 > Yar Sorry .. my wife has planned my whole weekend.. I *may* be able to come up early to help set up but I need to be home by noon Jim (also getting old in Delaware) James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From mjcantwe at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 00:38:08 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:38:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Topic -- Tires Message-ID: Hey everyone, Just thought I'd lob a quick question in for you and then take cover; How critical is the load index and speed ratings in choosing a tire? Michael From jasiii at earthlink.net Fri Apr 23 00:56:17 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:56:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Topic -- Tires In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/22/10 8:38 PM, "Michael Cantwell" wrote: > Hey everyone, > > Just thought I'd lob a quick question in for you and then take cover; > How critical is the load index and speed ratings in choosing a tire? > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l Michael You are part of the load index (grin) the weight that the tire can safely support... How loaded do you ride ?? Two up ?? With full luggage ?? What safely factor do you want to have?? On the speed rating.. How fast do you go ?? Then go up one rating just to be safe.. Which tires are you looking at ??? And how much $$ is the difference for the next better/safer grade ?? Hope this helps somewhat Jim From jasiii at earthlink.net Fri Apr 23 01:10:39 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:10:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but OK getting real forgeful in Delaware Message-ID: OK I am getting more forgetful with every passing day Someone had asked for help loading a bike and to borrow a set of tie-downs for tomorrow.. I have a note to get the ramp and tie-downs ready.. BUT.. I do not have a name on my note.. Who wanted my help ?? And do you still want me ?? Jim -- Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From cjschaffer at verizon.net Fri Apr 23 01:19:12 2010 From: cjschaffer at verizon.net (C & R Schaffer) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:19:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar Birthday Party!!! In-Reply-To: <20100422.154741.18734.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100422.154741.18734.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <806311320A004779A51C273082DFC923@RozCharliePC> Count Roz and I as in. We will try to create poetry for you but can't promise. We will bring some whole wheat hot dog buns, however. Charlie -------------------------------------------------- From: "Yar Seveer" Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:47 PM To: Subject: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar Birthday Party!!! > Party - Birthday Party > Date: > Saturday, April 24, 2010 > Time: > 1:00pm - 9:00pm > Location: > Yar's Place / Buckingham Lumber > > 4469 Upper Mountain Road > Buckingham, PA 18912 > > View Map > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=4469+Upper+Mountain+Road,+Buckingham,+PA&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=4469+Upper+Mountain+Rd,+New+Hope,+Bucks,+Pennsylvania+18938&z=16 > > > So it's my birthday & I figured what better way to spend it then with some > of my friends (& I thought I'd invite the MAC-PAC too. ;) ;) > I'm not worried about any big deal about it but if I can use it as an > excuse to get a bunch of friends together for an outdoor party on a nice > day then heck, why not? > Yes, I know, it's last minute... But if you want to come & can please let > me know ASAP. The forecast is good!!! > > Hot dogs, chips, snacks provided. You bring yourself & have a good time. > I have lots of hot dogs for the event. Yes, it will be a real sausage > fest. > > The only presents I want is your presence are my party. (don't bother with > cards either unless you want to write me a poem or something.) > > Outdoor party, bring some chairs if you have them. > If there is anything else you'd like to bring let me know. > > For directions, see map link above. > 215-794-0902 > > If anyone wants to come early to help set up then let me know, I'm sure I > could use some help. > > weather forecast > http://www.accuweather.com/us/pa/buckingham/18912/forecast-weekends.asp > > RSVP ASAP > rayreeves4 at gmail.com > or > 215-794-0902 (answering machine announcement says "You've reached a little > bit of sunshine". Leave a message with your number.) > > Yar Seveer > K75S 93' > K75S 90' RIP > Nighthawk 450 86' RIP > > ____________________________________________________________ > Penny Stock Jumping 2000% > Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4bd0a7fe25fc8a4077st03vuc > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2828 - Release Date: 04/22/10 > 02:31:00 > From jfox204 at comcast.net Fri Apr 23 01:20:52 2010 From: jfox204 at comcast.net (James T. Fox, IV) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:20:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] No more "Hitler pissed at XXX" parodies :(:( In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Apr 22, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > http://www.comcast.net/articles/entertainment/20100421/US.Hitler.YouTube.Meme/ > > No more use of them they say. They are being pulled off. I wonder > if they will start showing up on the other sides. > > Currently there is still one mocking the "pull down order". > Yes, this is too sad. Every now and then, I would kill some time watching these. Some of them were incredibly funny. The first one I saw came from this very list...the one about the BMW motorcycles. One even worked in Stalin at the proper time. One of the videos concerning the pull down order had a line where Hitler was calling the people pulling down the videos Nazis. The punch line was given by two women in the outer hallway: "Don't worry, he'll realize the irony soon." It's funny, I never would have heard of the movie if it wasn't for these videos (which Hitler also says in the pull down video). Jim Fox R1100GS Phoenixville/Kimberton From Braveirwin at aol.com Fri Apr 23 01:41:55 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:41:55 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oley Antique Show Message-ID: <5eafd.6296aab8.390254e3@aol.com> In a message dated 4/22/2010 4:55:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com writes: > > What is the featured Marque this year? Roddy. Per Marge's MacPac calendar, it is Crocker Motorcycle. http://www.crockermotorcycleco.com/ ============================================= Well, I can't imagine there will be too many of them showing up. I hope I'm surprised. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ken Bruce -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100422/924d3a9e/attachment.html From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Fri Apr 23 01:45:55 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:45:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oley Antique Show References: <5eafd.6296aab8.390254e3@aol.com> Message-ID: <017e01cae286$b71a7560$4001a8c0@FastHP> >> What is the featured Marque this year? Roddy. > > Per Marge's MacPac calendar, it is Crocker Motorcycle. > http://www.crockermotorcycleco.com/ > ============================================= > Well, I can't imagine there will be too many of them showing up. I hope > I'm > surprised. > There are always a lot of other interesting bikes there. Ed fisher might have his Reading Standard there on Friday. Marge From chrisjac at ptd.net Fri Apr 23 01:49:16 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:49:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Topic -- Tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BD0FC9C.7030501@ptd.net> Michael Cantwell wrote: > Hey everyone, > > Just thought I'd lob a quick question in for you and then take cover; > How critical is the load index and speed ratings in choosing a tire? > > Depends who's riding the bike! Chris Jaccarino From gary5410 at aol.com Fri Apr 23 01:49:33 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:49:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Guzzi didn't make it home. Message-ID: <8CCB09E5B3E168D-11F0-70F5@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> My neighbor picked up his new Guzzi Stelvio today. Made it 40 miles and it stopped...no crank. Dealer brought him a new charged battery. Rode some more and dash volt meter kept going down. He sat on the guardrail for 2 hr til the dealer picked it up. He rode bitch on his buddy's HD to get home. (I wish I would have seen him to take a pic.....he's glad I missed it!) This was his 1st new bike.....they hope to have it fixed late next week....if the parts come in :-( Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From mjcantwe at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 01:51:40 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:51:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Topic -- Tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jim, Thanks for the breakdown. It's helped a lot already. > You are part of the load index (grin) the weight that the tire can safely > support... How loaded do you ride ?? 215# plus my K75. Occasional trips, not too much weight (30-50#). Two up rarely > On the speed rating.. How fast do you go ?? Then go up one rating just to be > safe.. Rarely above 85, is V worth the $ when I rarely even reach the H rated speed? > Which tires are you looking at ??? Metzeler ME880 ME88 Michael From chrisjac at ptd.net Fri Apr 23 01:53:06 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:53:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Guzzi didn't make it home. In-Reply-To: <8CCB09E5B3E168D-11F0-70F5@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCB09E5B3E168D-11F0-70F5@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BD0FD82.7090403@ptd.net> Gary Christman wrote: > ...they hope to have it fixed > late next week....if the parts come in :-( > > That's a damn shame and the kind of thing that can ruin your experience with a manufacturer. Hope Moto Guzzi is better than Aprilla. I've heard some really nasty delay stories for the Aprillas. Works of art, but parts, forget it. Chris Jaccarino From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 01:57:06 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:57:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Guzzi didn't make it home. In-Reply-To: <4BD0FD82.7090403@ptd.net> References: <8CCB09E5B3E168D-11F0-70F5@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> <4BD0FD82.7090403@ptd.net> Message-ID: On 4/22/10, Chris wrote: > Gary Christman wrote: > > ...they hope to have it fixed > > late next week....if the parts come in :-( > > That's a damn shame and the kind of thing that can ruin your experience > with a manufacturer. Hope Moto Guzzi is better than Aprilla. I've > heard some really nasty delay stories for the Aprillas. Works of art, > but parts, forget it. Italian electrics don't have a great reputation. Continuing that? :(:( That he kept an eye on the voltmeter was a good thing. When it is on a downward trajectory, it is head for "somewhere good to stop" rather than the shoulder. Assuming it is FI the electrical house loads are NOT small and batteries DO NOT last long w/o charge. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From Braveirwin at aol.com Fri Apr 23 02:01:09 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:01:09 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT lovefest interrupted Message-ID: <5fb1f.1c15db86.39025965@aol.com> In a message dated 4/22/2010 8:44:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gary5410 at aol.com writes: http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Other/Animals/11923756_uYZ3c#844504860_jvyWY ========================================== You got a great and rare photo there. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My fabulous new Italian bike lasted 35 miles. It was glorious however. Died twice on the way home. 1st for a new battery, then it wouldn't charge. It went back to the dealer on a trailer. Maybe I'll get it back next week. They say, (4 out 5 Guzzi owners), the first 20,000 miles are rough, the next 180,000 miles will be great! Only 19,965miles to go. I'll have to see for myself. Craig -----Original Message----- > > That's a damn shame Italian electrics don't have a great reputation. Continuing that? :(:( From rayreeves4 at juno.com Fri Apr 23 02:48:37 2010 From: rayreeves4 at juno.com (Yar Seveer) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 02:48:37 GMT Subject: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar Birthday Par ty!!! Message-ID: <20100422.224837.25110.0@webmail16.vgs.untd.com> ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Jim Sterling To: Yar Seveer , mac-pac-l at jtan.com Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar Birthday Party!!! Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:24:47 -0400 (GMT-04:00) >Subject: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar Birthday Party!!! > >Party - Birthday Party >Date: >Saturday, April 24, 2010 >Time: >1:00pm - 9:00pm >Location: >Yar's Place / Buckingham Lumber > >4469 Upper Mountain Road >Buckingham, PA 18912 > Yar Sorry .. my wife has planned my whole weekend.. ~Are you apologizing to me since you can't make it Jim OR are you lamenting your condition? ;) I *may* be able to come up early to help set up but I need to be home by noon ~Early set up help is always welcome if you really want to make the trip. I'd be sure to have some dogs ready early just to be sure you got to eat. I'm going to be behind the 8 ball as it is putting it all together myself. I'm looking at this as a test run to kick off the rest of the get togethers I'll host for the season. Oh Yes, there will be more of them. ;) Jim (also getting old in Delaware) ~Really? I thought Delaware was the state with the fountain of youth... ____________________________________________________________ A Reverse Mortgage? Near 70? Find out how much money you can get from a reverse mortgage. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4bd10ad66231517226fst02vuc From rayreeves4 at juno.com Fri Apr 23 02:59:28 2010 From: rayreeves4 at juno.com (Yar Seveer) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 02:59:28 GMT Subject: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar Birthday Par ty!!! Message-ID: <20100422.225928.25110.2@webmail16.vgs.untd.com> ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "C & R Schaffer" To: "Yar Seveer" , Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar Birthday Party!!! Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:19:12 -0400 Count Roz and I as in. We will try to create poetry for you but can't promise. We will bring some whole wheat hot dog buns, however. Charlie ---------- Great, it will be good to see you both again, & this time I am planning it so I won't be stuck behind the grill. ;) And the whole wheat rolls are a good idea if you don't like to eat white bread. ;) Hope you like beef dogs though. Yar Seveer K75S 93' K75S 90' RIP Nighthawk 450 86' RIP ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4bd10d7537ae3ba091st04vuc From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 03:18:57 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:18:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Guzzi didn't make it home. In-Reply-To: <8CCB0A698D3A81C-36D0-21512@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCB09E5B3E168D-11F0-70F5@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> <4BD0FD82.7090403@ptd.net> <8CCB0A698D3A81C-36D0-21512@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 4/22/10, Gary Christman wrote: > His email....... > Here ya go. My fabulous new Italian bike lasted 35 miles. It was glorious > however. Died twice on the way home. 1st for a new battery, then it wouldn't > charge. It went back to the dealer on a trailer. Maybe I'll get it back next > week. They say, (4 out 5 Guzzi owners), the first 20,000 miles are rough, > the next 180,000 miles will be great! Only 19,965miles to go. I'll have to > see for myself. > > Craig This wiring diagram might help the dealer. http://xkcd.com/730/ Get it printed out and to them... Helping.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 03:32:27 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:32:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Your friends sending you to a website for Canadian Meds/V1agra Message-ID: It is not just Jim Ellenberg. Nor just the AOL folks. I am getting the messages from gmail accounts now. Apparently it is somewhat widespread: http://www.switched.com/2010/04/22/hacked-gmail-accounts-hawking-viagra/ The message here is that if the message looks funky and "off" likely better to leave it alone and "Move along these aren't the droids you are looking forl" Oh and if you are a "lucky one" CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD post haste. And do a better one this time. Letters, numbers, Caps etc. The street address you lived at mumblty years ago, that your parents are not even at now, but YOU can remember easy. OLD vehicle model numbers maybe with the plate. Something CREATIVE. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From gary5410 at aol.com Fri Apr 23 04:27:57 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:27:57 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Craigs Moto Guzzi Stelvio Message-ID: <8CCB0B47C354949-36D0-222FC@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> pics of Craigs Moto Guzzi Stelvio....MG's answer to the GS Now he doesn't have his BMW or his new Stelvio! http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Craigs-new-Moto-Guzzi/11933968_AR7JY#845146505_SbFXm Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 04:31:00 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:31:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Topic -- Tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Michael Cantwell wrote: > Jim, > > Thanks for the breakdown. It's helped a lot already. > >> You are part of the load index (grin) the weight that the tire can safely >> support... How loaded do you ride ?? > 215# plus my K75. Occasional trips, not too much weight (30-50#). Two up rarely > >> On the speed rating.. How fast do you go ?? Then go up one rating just to be >> safe.. > Rarely above 85, is V worth the $ when I rarely even reach the H rated speed? > >> Which tires are you looking at ??? > Metzeler ME880 ME88 Watch out for Metzelers if "made in Brazil" appears on the sidewall. I got screwed out of $120 dollars for a tire that was smaller than the wheel it was supposed to fit and could not be installed. They refused to warranty the tire. Dano From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 04:36:22 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:36:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Guzzi didn't make it home. In-Reply-To: <8CCB09E5B3E168D-11F0-70F5@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCB09E5B3E168D-11F0-70F5@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Gary Christman wrote: > My neighbor picked up his new Guzzi Stelvio today. Made it 40 miles and > it stopped...no crank. Dealer brought him a new charged battery. Rode > some more and dash volt meter kept going down. He sat on the guardrail > for 2 hr til the dealer picked it up. He rode bitch on his buddy's HD > to get home. (I wish I would have seen him to take a pic.....he's glad > I missed it!) This was his 1st new bike.....they hope to have it fixed > late next week....if the parts come in ?:-( > > Gary Christman > '07 R 1200 GS Adventure I hear that all Italian bikes are built so light, that they are supposed to disintegrate after finishing first in a 40 mile race!! Dano From motoedde2 at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 05:55:41 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 01:55:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Topic -- Tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Michael Cantwell wrote: > Jim, > > Thanks for the breakdown. It's helped a lot already. > >> You are part of the load index (grin) the weight that the tire can safely >> support... How loaded do you ride ?? > 215# plus my K75. Occasional trips, not too much weight (30-50#). Two up rarely > >> On the speed rating.. How fast do you go ?? Then go up one rating just to be >> safe.. > Rarely above 85, is V worth the $ when I rarely even reach the H rated speed? > >> Which tires are you looking at ??? > Metzeler ME880 ME88 The load rating on comparable size tires tends to be the same. The only difference I noticed was the ME-88 has a load rating of 74 versus 69 for its 130-90-17 rear size. Tires are complicated...in terms of ply types and number of plies that compose the sidewall and tread, the belting, the rubber softness on the tread, etc. For example rayon plies(used more frequently on Avon versus the polyester plies Metzler uses) tend to degrade over time due to sun exposure. Considering rayon is naturally weaker than polyester...that's a deal breaker for me as i park my K on a city sidewalk when I'm not riding. Metzeler ME-88 uses more sidewall polyester plies than the average 140-80-17 tire. This allows it to achieve a stronger sidewall and load rating for the same size tire. Why this matters is that you can ride the ME-88 at a lower pressure and not worry its ability to handle the load...and its gripping in corners at a lower tire pressure, due to the extra heat generated that softens the rubber, etc. This is my reasoning...however flawed it is...for explaining how picking a tire and its corresponding pressure for your riding needs isn't as simple as brand name, tread pattern, etc. Your approach is a good one...define your riding expectations and figure out what tire works to meet them. edde PS. I'm 6'3" 205 and use the ME88(front) and ME880(rear) combo...so I'm biased;) -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Apr 23 10:30:43 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:30:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: need a hard drive - 500G $40 Message-ID: refurb http://woot.com/ (WS) Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 11:50:26 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:50:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but OK getting real forgeful in Delaware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The person looking for help was David Hardgrove. He asked me too, and I said "Yes," and then never heard from him again. So as it is, I have plans for tomorrow. I might be able to change those plans and I am a lot closer to him if the bike is in WestChester. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jasiii at earthlink.net Fri Apr 23 12:18:03 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:18:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but OK getting real forgeful in Delaware In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The person looking for help was David Hardgrove. He asked me too, and > I said "Yes," and then never heard from him again. So as it is, I have > plans for tomorrow. I might be able to change those plans and I am a > lot closer to him if the bike is in WestChester. Thank you all for remembering what I had forgotten OK David if you would like me today let me know.. I am "booked" for both Saturday and Sunday... Next weekend is also open if I am needed. Jim From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 12:20:38 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:20:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] What Are You Doing On May 2, 2010!!!! Riding To Hatfield I hope... Message-ID: For Immediate Release! April 23, 2010 BMW Motorcycle Riders Go After Guinness Record in Hatfield, Pa In Fundraising Endeavor For St. Jude Children?s Research Hospital Hatfield, Pa (Apr. 23) ? Snarls of high-powered motorcycles will tear the morning quiet of Hatfield, Pennsylvania on May 2, 2010, as hundreds of BMW riders from 18 counties (in six states) converge on this suburban community with the intent of smashing one thing, while taking steps to eliminate another. To be smashed is the current title of the ?largest group and collective parade? of ?BMW marque-exclusive motorcycles, as stated by the famous book of Guinness World Records. And while the bikes are assembling for the count, their riders will be contributing to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital . According to Todd Trumbore, the primary organizer for the record-breaking attempt and fund-raising effort, this is an opportunity for bikers belonging to a tightly-knit riding community to band together and contribute to an even tighter community: children with cancer. ?The purpose of this event is two-fold,? said Trumbore. ?It?s an opportunity for BMW motorcycle riders to be counted, and a chance for them to contribute to a cause that really counts.? Trumbore brought his idea of breaking the existing Guinness record to Bob Jones, the CEO of Montgomeryville Cycle Center, who immediately saw the potential to benefit a worthy cause. Jones pledged the use of his facility, and his staff, while offering to host all participants with a complimentary lunch. ?The BMW motorcycling community is undoubtedly one of the country?s tighter-knit groups,? said Jones. ?As a rule, BMW bikers tend to be a solitary lot, riding great distances at speed ? but by themselves. You will find them at many fundraising events, but they represent a true minority and tend to prefer the background. This is one event where every rider will have two things in common... A desire to eradicate cancer in kids and a motorcycle made in Bavaria.? In keeping with Jones's perspective, it's not surprising to discover that the record number of BMW motorcycles gathered in one place, and ridden together (according to Guinness), is a modest 128 which was staged in Einsiedeln, Switzerland, on June 12, 2004. Yet records of this nature are set to be broken.?Grass Roots BMW, in Cape Girardeau, MO, is currently awaiting confirmation of 241 riders in a subsequent record-breaking attempt event last September. If Trombore has his way, that record will pass to the Mac Pac. "This number is almost routinely challenged by several BMW riding clubs in the United States, that conduct regional rallies at campgrounds or other places," said Trumbore. "Except that most of these guys don't show up in a single line. We're going to convene the largest BMW-exclusive group of riders, that have been recorded by Guinness, and take them on a ride through the Pennsylvania countryside." Riders will be counted as they register at the rallying point, Montgomeryville Cycle Center. They will be counted at the beginning of the parade ride, and at the end, he added. Trumbore is expecting more than 250 riders and has planned a routing that is conducive to keeping a large group together. There are six chartered BMW riding clubs within an 80-mile range of Montgomeryville. The Mac Pac, which serves the southeast Philadelphia area, has 250 active members by itself. The fund-raising, record-breaking endeavor has already received the support of these groups, several of which are now organizing group rides to attend. Stuff. BMW riders are an eclectic lot and it is expected that the event will draw an unusually high number of antique and vintage bikes, as well as some of the most sophisticated modern motorcycles currently available to the US market. "There will be those arriving on the new S1000RR, and a few showing up with sidecars that are more than 60 years old," said Trumbore. He has been riding BMW's for more than 30 years and has a collection of 34 vintage bikes he enjoys riding regularly. While the event is open to the motorcycle-riding public (who are strongly urged to contribute to the Pediatric Cancer Center in exchange for the option of seeing the world's largest collection of BMW bikes), the count and the parade run are only open to licensed riders, on insured and registered BMW motorcycles. Registration will begin at 9am, rain or shine, Sunday, May 2, 2010, at Montgomeryville Cycle Center, 2901 Bethlehem Pike ( Rt. 309 ), Hatfield, PA 19440. The telephone number is: 215-712-7433. The official count will begin at 11am. For additional information, contact: Todd Trumbore Event Coordinator 610-287-5275 Bob Jones CEO Montgomeryville Cycle Center & Event Coordinator 215-712-7433. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Apr 23 12:32:17 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:32:17 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] What Are You Doing On May 2, 2010!!!! Riding To Hatfield I hope... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14712.12.181.211.35.1272025937.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > For Immediate Release! > April 23, 2010 > > BMW Motorcycle Riders Go After Guinness Record in Hatfield, Pa In > Fundraising Endeavor For St. Jude Children?s Research Hospital > Well done! Ride Safe, Joe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 13:06:10 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:06:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jennifer Anniston Better Not Throw Me A Pop Next Weekend... Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: At 6am on Sunday, May 2, 2010, I will at the Exton Diner (Ship Road and Rt. 100, catty-corner to the Drafting Room), having a heart-healty, nutrious breakfast. Then around 6:40am, I will ride off (Rt. 202 to Rt. 309) to Montgomeryville Cycle to help at the registration desk for the Guiness Book Recording Breaking BMW attempt, and the Ride For the Cure. I will buy breakfast for five other riders who join me, and then ride off into history. (This offer does not include Michael Cantwell, who is riding down from the Adirondacks to participate in this event, and who will be my guest at the house.) I do not like long, slow, aggravating rides in tight quarters with other riders. But I will only have to ride for 2 miles to be counted... And I can do that standing on my head. I really like hanging around with other Mac Pac Riders (like Bregstein, Piechota, Bruce, Ellenberg, Scales, Erwin, Sterling III, Miller, Robinson, Heilveil, Sestrrich, Terrell, Jaccarino, Cavanaugh, Cantwell, Lyba, Bush, Busch, Oberst, Jacobs, Jacoby, Trombore, Hirth, Mehalik and the rest of you), and do not need much of an excuse to carouse with you guys... But it even becomes more of a pleasure when doing so enables me to toss $20 into a jar for some poor kid who's in pain. I can't do much, being a fat gimp. But I can sit at a registration table and take names. I'd much rather work the parking lot, (like the four other guys we are going to need), greeting the arriving riders with a laugh and a smile. But each to their tallent. When we arrive at 8am, a full hour before the event starts, we can review the registration and the parking process, while slupring hot coffee in the cool morning air, while munching ass-exploding donuts. Todd Trombore is spending every available hour wrenching dozens of his ancient Beemers (he has 139 of them) to get the numbers up. Wouldn't it be a pisser just to show up, wearing anything that said Mac Pac on it, and be part of this? There must be a thousand reasons why an event like this is a pain in the ass... But honestly, I can't think of one (other than getting laid by Jennifer Anniston) that would keep me from showing up for this. Montgomeryville Cycle is normally closed on Sunday... But the shop will be open -- with special discounts -- on Sunday, May 2, 2010. The Mac Pac is alleged to have 250 active guys on the list. Now some are in Chicago, Japan, Tennessee, and the Federal Witness Protection Program... But where are all of the rest of you? Wouldn't it be cool to pull into Montgomeryville Cycle, flash your Mac Pac shirt, and say to me, "Hey Fatass, sign me up." Then we get to stick Bob Jones for donuts and coffee or lunch. Please respond to this post if you are planning on coming. If you know others who ride our marque (who are not active on this list) then tell them to come too! Remember the Mac Pac motto: "That ain't far..." Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From ephoet at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 13:11:51 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:11:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Motorcycle deaths unaccountably plunge after long rise In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Brian Curry wrote: > "After rising steadily for nearly a dozen years to set a record in > 2008, the number of people killed nationally in motorcycle accidents > dropped dramatically last year, according to a report issued Thursday. > " > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/22/AR2010042200005.html > > Interesting blurb here: > > ========= > Ahmed cautioned against reading too much into data from a nine-month period. > > "The fact that there was a blip from one year to the next won't really > tell us that much," he said. "The upward trend has been going on for > 12 years. Show me several years of downward, and then we have > something." > ======== > > When the DATA does not support their preconceived notion (MODEL) NOW > WE HAVE to wonder whether the DATA is good or an aberration. ?But when > it does support their model (Unvalidated model too BTW.) then we HAVE > TO BELIEVE IT and ACT on it... > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian; I don't see your point. Samir Ahmed simply cautioned that a one year drop in in the death rate is a statistically curiosity for now. Which is true. Its not a "preconceived notion" to suggest that a 12 year trend at rising MC deaths might continue. Its simply the conclusion you come to looking at the past statistical trend. Hopefully the $3 million study will produce some more definitive conclusions as to the underlying causes as well as the recent change in rate. If the downward trend continues, then we need to better understand what changed to produce the trend deviation. And the article propose several possible esplanations, none of which has been substantiated. "In soliciting the data in the report, the GHSA also asked state safety agencies to articulate the reasons for the decline. Several responses pointed to the economy and underscored that a significant portion of motorcycling is for recreation rather than transportation. "If you have a choice between paying your mortgage or your motorcycle insurance or payment, go with the mortgage," one respondent said. Others suggested that high fuel prices and the independent image of motorcyclists had previously caused a temporary surge in ridership. A third explanation: "Trend riders have been weeded out. Motorcycling is not for everyone. Some people that bought into the Harley lifestyle or the sport bike surge found this out." Another suggested greater awareness by other drivers: "Motorcycles came to be an expected part of the daily traffic mix." " I think the economy certainly is a factor, MC riding being a hobby for most and not basic transportation. (sorry, no offense, Herr Raymond!) If job and finances are an issue in your life, your favorite hobby tends to take a back burner. And in the past 2 years, that certainly has been a factor for many, including several on this list. Is that the real answer? Time will tell. Erik H West Chester From doehler at verizon.net Fri Apr 23 13:23:30 2010 From: doehler at verizon.net (Dave Oehler) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:23:30 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jennifer Anniston Better Not Throw Me A Pop Next Weekend... References: Message-ID: <03ACE0D0824B408DB3D7E1C00726DCCA@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Riepe" Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: Please respond to this post if you are planning on coming. If you know others who ride our marque (who are not active on this list) then tell them to come too! Remember the Mac Pac motto: "That ain't far..." ------------------------------------------------------------- Not far at all . Im in! I am trying to talk my Brother-in-Law in to joing from NY as well From kgbruce1 at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 13:29:26 2010 From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:29:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] APRIL RIDERS' DINNER...REMINDER!!! Message-ID: Sue C. writes: Dear Dinner Guy, my husband rides a BMW GS and never takes me anywhere nice for dinner unless it?s with his goofy bunch of motorcycle friends. I?ve been cooped up on this hill all winter and am anxious to go out to eat somewhere decent. Can you please put something together this month so maybe he?ll take me out for a change? Thanks for your kind consideration and please don?t tell him I sent this message?..he?s, well, ya know?.sensitive. Sue C., Cooped up in Coatesville Dear Cooped Up, You?re in luck! The RIDERS? DINNER will be held next Wednesday night, April, 28th at the Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant in Phoenixville http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/phoenixville/ I think you?ll find the Iron Hill restaurant up to your expectations as we?ve dined with them before at another location and we all enjoyed it very much. They have a fine menu and beverage selection and the service I?ve experienced has been first rate. Please encourage him to take you, I think you?ll enjoy it, despite the questionable character(s) of the group. Don?t worry, I?ll be sure to exclude this message from the invitation so he?ll never know of your request. (Funny though, GS guys are usually so thoughtful??) Very Truly Yours, Dinner Guy Hear Ye! Hear Ye! RIDERS? DINNER next Wednesday night, April 28th at the Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant in Phoenixvfille, Pa http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/phoenixville/. We will gather at 6:30 (give or take) to enjoy fine food & beverage, plan trips, talk smack, relax and explore what could possibly be going through someone?s mind to wear a button down tattersall shirt to the monthly breakfast. It?s Spring, the riding contest has begun so if the weather?s good let?s put on a few miles on the road to dethroning the Cheeseheads! If the weather doesn?t cooperate, go ahead and cage it, just get yourself out to the Riders? Dinner next Wednesday night! The fine folks at Iron Hill are looking forward to us coming because I didn?t own up to who we really are. Please let me know if you can make it so I can give them a heads up. However, if you don?t know you?re coming ?til the last minute that?s OK?.just make it to the Riders? Dinner! Winter is over??get out there and EAT, RIDE, WRENCH, REPEAT!!! Thanks, Ken Bruce -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100423/8f001cf8/attachment.html From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Apr 23 13:37:17 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:37:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Guzzi didn't make it home. References: <8CCB09E5B3E168D-11F0-70F5@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: > My neighbor picked up his new Guzzi Stelvio today. Made it 40 miles and > it stopped...no crank. Dealer brought him a new charged battery. Rode > some more and dash volt meter kept going down. He sat on the guardrail > for 2 hr til the dealer picked it up. He rode bitch on his buddy's HD > to get home. (I wish I would have seen him to take a pic.....he's glad > I missed it!) This was his 1st new bike.....they hope to have it fixed > late next week....if the parts come in :-( > > Gary Christman Now that's not a good sign ! Don't they test these machines before they leave the factory ? Todd From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 13:45:59 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:45:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jennifer Anniston Better Not Throw Me A Pop Next Weekend... In-Reply-To: <03ACE0D0824B408DB3D7E1C00726DCCA@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> References: <03ACE0D0824B408DB3D7E1C00726DCCA@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> Message-ID: Dear Dave: I knew we could count on you!!! This is going to be a blast! -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Apr 23 13:46:28 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:46:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but OK getting real forgeful in Delaware References: Message-ID: > Next weekend is also open if I am needed. > Jim Hey, Hey, Hey ! Now I know you meant next Saturday and NOT next SUNDAY MAY 2ND ! Because I know you have other plans for that day...............correct ? Todd From ephoet at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 13:51:16 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:51:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Mac-Pac thong banned at NC Beach! Message-ID: Some adventuresome Mac-Pac'r got them upset................... Jim, that you??? EPH --------------------------------------------------------------------------- No thongs for swimmers in 'Mayberry with a beach" KURE BEACH, N.C. - A North Carolina town that the mayor called "Mayberry with a beach" has banned swimmers from wearing thongs. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36734674/ns/us_news/ From jasiii at earthlink.net Fri Apr 23 14:04:06 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:04:06 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Mac-Pac thong banned at NC Beach! Message-ID: <29260426.1272031446854.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > >Some adventuresome Mac-Pac'r got them upset................... Jim, that you??? > > EPH > >No thongs for swimmers in 'Mayberry with a beach" > >KURE BEACH, N.C. - A North Carolina town that the mayor called >"Mayberry with a beach" has banned swimmers from wearing thongs. > >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36734674/ns/us_news/ Not this jim .. I have no problems with Thongs.. Jim (trying to remember why) James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From jasiii at earthlink.net Fri Apr 23 14:06:18 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:06:18 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT but OK getting real forgeful in Delaware Message-ID: <11191965.1272031578604.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > >> Next weekend is also open if I am needed. >> Jim > >Hey, Hey, Hey ! Now I know you meant next Saturday and NOT next SUNDAY MAY >2ND ! >Because I know you have other plans for that day...............correct ? > >Todd > MAY 2 I am there... Got the whole day for Mac-Pac and any other riding (rain/sun/snow) I am fully set up for May 2 and MCCC Jim James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 14:19:20 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:19:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jennifer Anniston Better Not Throw Me A Pop Next Weekend... In-Reply-To: <03ACE0D0824B408DB3D7E1C00726DCCA@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> References: <03ACE0D0824B408DB3D7E1C00726DCCA@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> Message-ID: >From Jim Ellenberg To Riepe -- (Forwarded By Riepe) Hey Numnuts, Dot and I are going to be sitting at the registration table along side of you and Bregstein. We're going to pass out Big Jim's Chocolate Chip Cookies and get people to try them. I might save a few for you. I'll be taking names too. Big Jim From pasegc at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 14:46:43 2010 From: pasegc at gmail.com (Gerry Cavanaugh) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:46:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] APRIL RIDERS' DINNER...REMINDER!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Ken Bruce wrote: > Sue C. writes: ?Dear Dinner Guy, my husband rides a BMW GS and never takes > me anywhere nice for dinner unless it?s with his goofy bunch of motorcycle > friends. ?I?ve been cooped up on this hill all winter and am anxious to go > out to eat somewhere decent. ?Can you please put something together this > month so maybe he?ll take me out for a change? ? Thanks for your kind > consideration and please don?t tell him I sent this message?..he?s, well, ya > know?.sensitive. > > Sue C., Cooped up in Coatesville > > Dear Cooped Up, ?You?re in luck! ?The RIDERS? DINNER will be held next > Wednesday night, April, 28th at the Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant in > Phoenixville ? http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/phoenixville/ > > I think you?ll find the Iron Hill restaurant up to your expectations as > we?ve dined with them before at another location and we all enjoyed it very > much. ?They have a fine menu and beverage selection and the service I?ve > experienced has been first rate. ? Please encourage him to take you, I think > you?ll enjoy it, despite the questionable character(s) of the group. > > Don?t worry, I?ll be sure to exclude this message from the invitation so > he?ll never know of your request. ?(Funny though, GS guys are usually so > thoughtful??) > > Very Truly Yours, > Dinner Guy > > Yo, Ken Bruce when will I get your MOA Mileage Form???? Holding out are we? Come on join in on the fun, get me your form. Gerry Cavanaugh Sensitive GS rider From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 15:10:41 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 11:10:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Facebook is being used to hack your e-mail, How to STOP IT Message-ID: We are getting a LOT of spam in coming. From multiple ISP sources. I strongly suspect it is due to using the SAME PASSWORD for everything. BAD thing to do. How many times have you heard that? Here is a relatively simple way to stop it, and be able to remember the passwords. First have a "master part". I am going to use part of an old address. "941James" Then for EACH place/Website you use it make it "custom" for it. Facebook fb941James Bank1 chase941James Bank2 commerce941James WallStreetJournal wsj941James AOL account aol941James Hotmail account hm941James etc. It can be tweaked further using the first as an example: 941Jamesfb fb-941James fb_941James Fb941James 941James-fb 941James-Fb If the place being logged into differentiates between upper and lower case, USE IT. If they allow special/shifted characters USE THEM. (Comcast prohibits them. STUPID!!) The "base" should be something easy for you to remember and NOT something that is easy to associate you with. An old vehicle model you had. Part of the address of where you grew up. Year and name of the company you first worked at. You want numbers AND letters in the "base" and Caps improve it even more. Special shifted characters REALLY HELP. This is a somewhat "easy" way to have a rememberable but UNIQUE password for EACH of your online accounts. If they hack one account, they are slowed down getting into the others. And even if you follow this, it depends on what "convention variant" you used. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From rayreeves4 at juno.com Fri Apr 23 15:27:06 2010 From: rayreeves4 at juno.com (Yar Seveer) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:27:06 GMT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Mac-Pac thong banned at NC Beach! Message-ID: <20100423.112706.15301.0@webmail16.vgs.untd.com> ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Erik Hoet To: mac-Pac Subject: [MAC-PAC] Mac-Pac thong banned at NC Beach! Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:51:16 -0400 Some adventuresome Mac-Pac'r got them upset................... Jim, that you??? EPH --------------------------------------------------------------------------- No thongs for swimmers in 'Mayberry with a beach" KURE BEACH, N.C. - A North Carolina town that the mayor called "Mayberry with a beach" has banned swimmers from wearing thongs. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36734674/ns/us_news/ ===================== For just a split second I thought there might be a loop hole. The article starts out saying it was banning swimmers from wearing a thong. So I thought, what about people who aren't going to go swimming? ;) Seems to me it would be harder to see the thong on the swimmers then the people just sunning on the beach. ;) Eric, Thanks for the heads up on what beach to miss during my next trip to NC. Yar Seveer K75S 93' K75S 90' RIP Nighthawk 450 86' RIP ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4bd1bca017fa7cc1e3st06vuc From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Apr 23 15:33:37 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 11:33:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] What Are You Doing On May 2, 2010!!!! Riding To Hatfield I hope... References: <14712.12.181.211.35.1272025937.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: > For Immediate Release! > April 23, 2010 > > BMW Motorcycle Riders Go After Guinness Record in Hatfield, Pa In > Fundraising Endeavor For St. Jude Children's Research Hospital > Well done! Ride Safe, Joe I'll second that ! Terrific job Jack. Much appreciated. Regards, Todd _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From rayreeves4 at juno.com Fri Apr 23 15:31:58 2010 From: rayreeves4 at juno.com (Yar Seveer) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:31:58 GMT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Facebook is being used to hack your e-mail, How to STOP IT Message-ID: <20100423.113158.15301.1@webmail16.vgs.untd.com> (Top post) Thanks BC, good advice. And yeah, as much as I use FB the more I understand how it works I am inclined to believe it is "evil". ...Wonder if FB is the anti-christ... Just a thought. Yar Seveer K75S 93' K75S 90' RIP Nighthawk 450 86' RIP ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Brian Curry To: Mac-Pac Subject: [MAC-PAC] Facebook is being used to hack your e-mail, How to STOP IT Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 11:10:41 -0400 We are getting a LOT of spam in coming. From multiple ISP sources. I strongly suspect it is due to using the SAME PASSWORD for everything. BAD thing to do. How many times have you heard that? Here is a relatively simple way to stop it, and be able to remember the passwords. First have a "master part". I am going to use part of an old address. "941James" Then for EACH place/Website you use it make it "custom" for it. ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4bd1bd94d43cc4f27st03vuc From motoedde2 at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 15:34:08 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 11:34:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: PA Turnpike Officials and DUI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Dick wrote: > Just typical abuse of the system by gummit employees or appointees. I hope > the People get angry enough to institute significant change at the polls. We > need smaller government, which translates to fewer "no-show" job guys. Not that I'm a fan of CNN BUT are you referring to this? http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/04/23/sec.porn/index.html?iphonefb -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From motoedde2 at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 15:37:29 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 11:37:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] No more "Hitler pissed at XXX" parodies :(:( In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:20 PM, James T. Fox, IV wrote: > > On Apr 22, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > >> http://www.comcast.net/articles/entertainment/20100421/US.Hitler.YouTube.Meme/ >> >> No more use of them they ?say. ?They are being pulled off. ?I wonder >> if they will start showing up on the other sides. >> >> Currently there is still one mocking the "pull down order". >> > > > Yes, this is too sad. ?Every now and then, I would kill some time watching these. ?Some of them were incredibly funny. ?The first one I saw came from this very list...the one about the BMW motorcycles. ?One even worked in Stalin at the proper time. ?One of the videos concerning the pull down order had a line where Hitler was calling the people pulling down the videos Nazis. ?The punch line was given by two women in the outer hallway: "Don't worry, he'll realize the irony soon." > > It's funny, I never would have heard of the movie if it wasn't for these videos (which Hitler also says in the pull down video). Ha...you tube didn't catch this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBO5dh9qrIQ -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Apr 23 16:12:01 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:12:01 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jennifer Anniston Better Not Throw Me A Pop NextWeekend... References: <03ACE0D0824B408DB3D7E1C00726DCCA@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> Message-ID: > Hey Numnuts, > Dot and I are going to be sitting at the registration table along side > of you and Bregstein. We're going to pass out Big Jim's Chocolate > Chip Cookies and get people to try them. I might save a few for you. > I'll be taking names too. > Big Jim You're a good man Big Jim and those cookies won't last a NY minute............that's how good they are !! That's why I'll be supplying the donuts and coffee because I know those cookies of Jim's will be gone in no time flat. Todd PS. Thanks to all those for volunteering to give Jack Riepe and hand with Sign-up/Registration/Parking So far we have the following who graciously stepped forward to lend a hand: Jack Riepe Dick Bregstein Roddy Irwin Big Jim Ellenburg Dot Ellenburg Rick Kramer Dave Crank Dave Zillhardt & wife From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Apr 23 16:25:01 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:25:01 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fw: Jennifer Anniston Better Not Throw Me A Pop NextWeekend... Message-ID: > Montgomeryville Cycle is normally closed on Sunday... But the shop > will be open -- with special discounts -- on Sunday, May 2, 2010. > Please respond to this post if you are planning on coming. If you know > others who ride our marque (who are not active on this list) then tell > them to come too! > > Fondest regards, > Jack Jack, There will be at least seven other riders/friends who I am hooking up with the finest Bavaria has to offer for this event. Their lives will never be the same after hanging out with our gang ! Thanks again for all your efforts ! You are to be commended. I am still working the phones and emails. Marge will be handing out flyers at Oley on Friday and I will do the same on Saturday before dashing home for more wrenching. Regards, Todd From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 16:41:49 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:41:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jennifer Anniston Better Not Throw Me A Pop NextWeekend... In-Reply-To: References: <03ACE0D0824B408DB3D7E1C00726DCCA@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> Message-ID: Dear Todd: Add Michael Cantwell to this list -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Apr 23 17:49:37 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:49:37 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Facebook is being used to hack your e-mail, How to STOP IT In-Reply-To: <20100423.113158.15301.1@webmail16.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100423.113158.15301.1@webmail16.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <37994.12.181.211.35.1272044977.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > (Top post) > Thanks BC, good advice. And yeah, as much as I use FB the more I > understand how it works I am inclined to believe it is "evil". ...Wonder > if FB is the anti-christ... Just a thought. > I don't do and my children aren't allowed to FB. Ride Safe, Joe From rayreeves4 at juno.com Fri Apr 23 17:51:17 2010 From: rayreeves4 at juno.com (Yar Seveer) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:51:17 GMT Subject: [MAC-PAC] 4/24 Yar's Birthday Party Sat!!! It's happening AGAIN... Message-ID: <20100423.135117.15596.1@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> Sorry, I hadn't counted on how the subject header would appear or would crop when displayed in the original message with the [MAC-PAC] in front of it... So I am re-posting so that it might be a little more clear what the subject is. See original post below if you didn't already read it. And thanks to all who responded either way. Those who said they can't make it will be missed. But have fun at your other events. Yar Seveer K75S 93' K75S 90' RIP Nighthawk 450 86' RIP ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Yar Seveer" To: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Subject: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar Birthday Party!!! Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:47:41 GMT Party - Birthday Party Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010 Time: 1:00pm - 9:00pm Location: Yar's Place / Buckingham Lumber 4469 Upper Mountain Road Buckingham, PA 18912 View Map http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=4469+Upper+Mountain+Road,+Buckingham,+PA&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=4469+Upper+Mountain+Rd,+New+Hope,+Bucks,+Pennsylvania+18938&z=16 So it's my birthday & I figured what better way to spend it then with some of my friends (& I thought I'd invite the MAC-PAC too. ;) ;) I'm not worried about any big deal about it but if I can use it as an excuse to get a bunch of friends together for an outdoor party on a nice day then heck, why not? Yes, I know, it's last minute... But if you want to come & can please let me know ASAP. The forecast is good!!! Hot dogs, chips, snacks provided. You bring yourself & have a good time. I have lots of hot dogs for the event. Yes, it will be a real sausage fest. The only presents I want is your presence are my party. (don't bother with cards either unless you want to write me a poem or something.) Outdoor party, bring some chairs if you have them. If there is anything else you'd like to bring let me know. For directions, see map link above. 215-794-0902 If anyone wants to come early to help set up then let me know, I'm sure I could use some help. weather forecast http://www.accuweather.com/us/pa/buckingham/18912/forecast-weekends.asp RSVP ASAP rayreeves4 at gmail.com or 215-794-0902 (answering machine announcement says "You've reached a little bit of sunshine". Leave a message with your number.) Yar Seveer K75S 93' needs a part K75S 90' RIP Nighthawk 450 86' RIP ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4bd1de44eaa71f2616st05vuc From ironbt01 at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 18:26:34 2010 From: ironbt01 at gmail.com (Greg Roberts) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:26:34 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Facebook is being used to hack your e-mail, How to STOP IT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Brian Curry wrote: > We are getting a LOT of spam in coming. ?From multiple ISP sources. > > I strongly suspect it is due to using the SAME PASSWORD for > everything. ?BAD thing to do. ?How many times have you heard that? > > Here is a relatively simple way to stop it, and be able to remember > the passwords. > > First have a "master part". ?I am going to use part of an old address. > ?"941James" ?Then for EACH place/Website you use it make it "custom" > for it. Mr. Curry, Might I also suggest the use of a utility? The one I have been using for a good many years, and is OK'd by my corporate IT dept, is Password Safe http://pwsafe.org/ This utility does a good job of keeping track of your passwords, and also has a Generate Random function that implements case, letters & numbers, and special characters. Easy to use: just open the program, type in your master password (which one should make very secure using all of the items you mentioned), then double-click on the listed location needing the password. The program copies the associated password to your clipboard, from whence you can paste the PW as needed. Once you close the utility it wipes the clipboard for you. This makes it very easy to use more or less random, high-security passwords for each site that you visit. Greg Roberts Wadley, AL From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 20:06:58 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:06:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: More on why we may be seeing a surge in Facebook-E-mail spam Message-ID: I was just sent this link: http://www.infoworld.com/d/the-industry-standard/15-million-stolen-facebook-ids-sale-645 to an article on stolen Facebook accounts. "1.5 million stolen Facebook IDs up for sale A hacker named Kirllos is offering to sell the accounts in an underground forum for 2.5 cents per account." I have no clue how it was done, I can guess, but it sure is NOT my area of specialty by a long shot. It sucks. I called three people I got "similar" SPAM from and got two live folks. They were getting calls from other folks too. Both of them were "on it" about changing their passwords. If you get something from someone you know that "looks odd" and IMO the messages scream "something is off" give them a call and have them change thier passwords. I suspect that SHOULD include "Big Jim Ellenberg" as his Hotmail account seems to be repeatedly putting out the stuff. THNX to Wayne Woodruff who tipped me to an issue, and we went further in pursuing this stuff. We tracked down an "early adoptee" and talked to them and got enough info that "change password" was the first thing. This stuff SUCKS. Some illumination of what is going on out there in the "big bad world". -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From ladyvol at fastmail.fm Fri Apr 23 21:45:01 2010 From: ladyvol at fastmail.fm (Jill McCarley) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:45:01 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Mac-Pac thong banned at NC Beach! In-Reply-To: <20100423.112706.15301.0@webmail16.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100423.112706.15301.0@webmail16.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <1272059101.24325.1371614017@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:27 +0000, "Yar Seveer" wrote: > -- > > No thongs for swimmers in 'Mayberry with a beach" > > KURE BEACH, N.C. - A North Carolina town that the mayor called > "Mayberry with a beach" has banned swimmers from wearing thongs. > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36734674/ns/us_news/ > Screw them! As a recreational nudist, I applaud anyone who wishes to show what the good Lord gave 'em. To hell with convention! Just have the MacPac logo tattoo'ed and go in the buff. It works for me. (I do, however, keep a sharp eye out for harpoons. ISHMAEL!!!!!!) Friday night lit, Jill ---------------------------- '90 R100GS '06 K1200 R "The Screaming Meanie" Jill McCarley, MD Child and Adolescent Psychiatry Member, Ketchup Advisory Board "Psychiatry--turning neurotic misery into ordinary human unhappiness." From darkside at ix.netcom.com Fri Apr 23 21:55:48 2010 From: darkside at ix.netcom.com (Darkside) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:55:48 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: More on why we may be seeing a surge in Facebook-E-mail spam Message-ID: <12873930.1272059748781.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >From: Brian Curry >Sent: Apr 23, 2010 4:06 PM >To: Mac-Pac >Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: More on why we may be seeing a surge in Facebook-E-mail spam > >If you get something from someone you know that "looks odd" and IMO >the messages scream "something is off" give them a call and have them >change thier passwords. so that being said, i recieved something that was a tad suspicious from an aol addr of cat0020. the only reason i mention this is because one of the other recipiants was listed as david hardgrove whom i believe is on this list. or is that what started this whole thread in the first place? peace y'all eric From gary5410 at aol.com Fri Apr 23 23:11:45 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:11:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Guzzi update Message-ID: <8CCB1517A855C31-E3C-15BBB@webmail-m088.sysops.aol.com> The dealer said he took off 85 fasteners to get to the alternator and found the ground post had been tightened too tight and it was broken. A new alternator is being overnighted from Virginia and if they get it back together tomorrow they will deliver the bike to his house in Kempton. He said they build these motorcycles by hanging an alternator on a string from the ceiling and then start adding parts to it until they have a moto. ;-) That's why you have to take so much off to get to it! Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From jaburke4 at verizon.net Sat Apr 24 00:29:10 2010 From: jaburke4 at verizon.net (John Burkhauser) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:29:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sure is purdy Message-ID: http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/machine/details.asp?ID=2335 John Burkhauser jaburke4 at verizon.net From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 00:36:39 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:36:39 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: More on why we may be seeing a surge in Facebook-E-mail spam In-Reply-To: <12873930.1272059748781.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <12873930.1272059748781.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: On 4/23/10, Darkside wrote: > >From: Brian Curry > >Sent: Apr 23, 2010 4:06 PM > >To: Mac-Pac > >Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: More on why we may be seeing a surge in Facebook-E-mail spam > > > > >If you get something from someone you know that "looks odd" and IMO > >the messages scream "something is off" give them a call and have them > >change thier passwords. > > > so that being said, i recieved something that was a tad suspicious from an > aol addr of cat0020. You are not alone.... the only reason i mention this is because one of the > other recipiants was listed as david hardgrove whom i believe is on this list. > > or is that what started this whole thread in the first place? Part. I got one from Theo either today, or the other day. OLDE address for him. I was the one that filled up his home answer box. They might be out of country or not. Or there are a LOT of people calling him. But good catch eric. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From Braveirwin at aol.com Sat Apr 24 01:28:18 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 21:28:18 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jennifer Anniston Better Not Throw Me A Pop Next Weekend... Message-ID: In a message dated 4/23/2010 9:06:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jack.riepe at gmail.com writes: Please respond to this post if you are planning on coming. If you know others who ride our marque (who are not active on this list) then tell them to come too! Remember the Mac Pac motto: "That ain't far..." ========================================== Yes, Jack, I still plan to be there. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100423/6004dda0/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 02:01:23 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:01:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: There are Politician's and then there are Actuaries Message-ID: Which would you rather believe? Someone who is full of "good ideas" or those that tell you what the math which does not care how "good" something is says. Not all the Nebraskan's are happy about the "Healthcare" bill that included the Cornhusker pay off. From: http://johanns.senate.gov/public/?p=PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=8b997b4d-49cc-44a1-a64b-906772588520 "Americans will be rightly alarmed to learn that the new health care law will likely increase national health expenditures by $311 billion over the next ten years according to this new analysis. It reaffirms that the higher taxes and fees are going to hit the pocketbooks of many Americans and hurt employers. I requested a similar analysis from CMS last December, and this analysis verifies that the American public was justifiably worried. These are the folks that did it: http://www.cms.gov/ The report is at: http://johanns.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=1835930b-9e63-4300-89c7-9051c920d76a If you wonder why this is different from the OMB report before the vote, the OMB scoring is done as DIRECTED by Congress. Control the inputs and you can dictate the results. Duh. Plus even the OMB noted areas where they thought there were issues. All ignored in the rush to DO SOMETHING. Oh, and for the Pennsylvanian's here that have gotten a ticket in a car in the last 10 or more years you are STILL paying for the "CAT" fund which was another actuarial nightmare but a "good idea" way back when. It was going to solve an auto insurance issue. Yeah, right, uh huh, gotcha. Vote them ALL out that voted for it. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 02:13:40 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:13:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Two very cool pics from or of space Message-ID: Scroll back to 23 April if necessary. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html (WS The Sun in ultravoilet false color.) http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/04/hubble-20th-anniversary/ (WS VERY COOL brand new shot from Hubble. Oh, and you can pull it down for your desktop too.) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 02:21:02 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:21:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Can you say dumber than dirt? Message-ID: Or maybe not. http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/23/pirates.us.prosecution/index.html (WS) 11 pirates "indicted" for attacking a US warship. The indictments are both mildly amusing and educational: http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/04/23/ashland.indictment.pdf http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/04/23/nicholas.indictment.pdf On or about March 31,2010, on the high seas, the defendants, MOHAMMED MODIN HASAN, GABUL ABDULLAHI ALI, ABDI WALI DIRE, ABDI MOHAMMED GUREWARDHER and ABDI MOHAMMED UMAR, who were first brought to and arrested in the Eastern District of Virginia, and others known and unknown, by surprise and open force, maliciously attacked and set upon a vessel belonging to another, specifically, the USS Nicholas belonging to the United States of America, with an intent unlawfully to plunder the same [...] ======== It maybe smart. They get three square meals a day, healthcare, housing all "for free" and likely FAR better than they had a home. However, if you are war ship and are fired on why not return fire, sink them if you can and "their side" can get busy with rescuing them. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 02:46:28 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:46:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The "new" Airport Body Scanners Message-ID: Here is something that the folks at ACTE just might get behind. Will the PR department spool up on it? ========= Here's a solution to all the controversy over full-body scanners at the airports. Have a booth that you can step into that will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device you may have on you! It would be a win-win for everyone - there would be none of this crap about racial profiling and would eliminate a long and expensive trial. Justice would be quick and swift. Case Closed! This is so simple that it's brilliant. I can see it now: you're in the airport terminal and you hear a muffled explosion. Shortly thereafter an announcement comes over the PA system, "Attention standby passengers we now have a seat available on flight number..." Perfect!!!! ============= Helping the Business Travelers get to their destinations faster by opening up seats!!! Standby might work again yet. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wayne at 2zars.com Sat Apr 24 02:52:29 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:52:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Facebook is being used to hack your e-mail, How to STOP IT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > >Might I also suggest the use of a utility? > >The one I have been using for a good many years, and is OK'd by my >corporate IT dept, is Password Safe > >http://pwsafe.org/ > +1 on password safe. I've been using it for years. I let it generate the funky cryptic password. I never forget passwords. Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From wayne at 2zars.com Sat Apr 24 02:55:33 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:55:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: More on why we may be seeing a surge in Facebook-E-mail spam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:06:58 -0400, you wrote: >"1.5 million stolen Facebook IDs up for sale >A hacker named Kirllos is offering to sell the accounts in an >underground forum for 2.5 cents per account." > Yet another reason to avoid Facebook, not that I need more reasons. Wayne Woodruff: http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From gary5410 at aol.com Sat Apr 24 02:58:41 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:58:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: The "new" Airport Body Scanners In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCB1712E456500-E3C-17440@webmail-m088.sysops.aol.com> <> Yes it is, and it would work! Perfect! Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From piechota at argolis.org Sat Apr 24 03:05:08 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:05:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar Birthday Party!!! In-Reply-To: <20100422.154741.18734.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100422.154741.18734.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <4BD25FE4.6060105@argolis.org> Yar Seveer wrote: > RSVP ASAP > rayreeves4 at gmail.com > or > 215-794-0902 (answering machine announcement says "You've reached a little bit of sunshine". Leave a message with your number.) Yar, Can I RSVP 'maybe'? I have to get the yard care done and fix my car before I can come out and play. The car repair (and weather) is the big variable. From piechota at argolis.org Sat Apr 24 03:08:47 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:08:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jennifer Anniston Better Not Throw Me A Pop Next Weekend... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BD260BF.3070801@argolis.org> Jack Riepe wrote: > Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: > > At 6am on Sunday, May 2, 2010, I will at the Exton Diner (Ship Road > and Rt. 100, catty-corner to the Drafting Room), having a > heart-healty, nutrious breakfast. Then around 6:40am, I will ride off > (Rt. 202 to Rt. 309) to Montgomeryville Cycle to help at the > registration desk for the Guiness Book Recording Breaking BMW attempt, > and the Ride For the Cure. I will buy breakfast for five other riders > who join me, and then ride off into history. (This offer does not > include Michael Cantwell, who is riding down from the Adirondacks to > participate in this event, and who will be my guest at the house.) 6am is awfully early, but I'll give it a shot. > I do not like long, slow, aggravating rides in tight quarters with > other riders. But I will only have to ride for 2 miles to be > counted... And I can do that standing on my head. I really like > hanging around with other Mac Pac Riders (like Bregstein, Piechota, > Bruce, Ellenberg, Scales, Erwin, Sterling III, Miller, Robinson, > Heilveil, Sestrrich, Terrell, Jaccarino, Cavanaugh, Cantwell, Lyba, > Bush, Busch, Oberst, Jacobs, Jacoby, Trombore, Hirth, Mehalik and the > rest of you), and do not need much of an excuse to carouse with you > guys... But it even becomes more of a pleasure when doing so enables > me to toss $20 into a jar for some poor kid who's in pain. I'm number two! How exactly did I reach this exalted status? From rayreeves4 at juno.com Sat Apr 24 07:03:15 2010 From: rayreeves4 at juno.com (Yar Seveer) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 07:03:15 GMT Subject: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar Birthday Par ty!!! Message-ID: <20100424.030315.3332.0@webmail22.vgs.untd.com> ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Matt Piechota To: Yar Seveer Cc: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar Birthday Party!!! Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:05:08 -0400 Yar Seveer wrote: > RSVP ASAP > rayreeves4 at gmail.com > or > 215-794-0902 (answering machine announcement says "You've reached a little bit of sunshine". Leave a message with your number.) Yar, Can I RSVP 'maybe'? I have to get the yard care done and fix my car before I can come out and play. The car repair (and weather) is the big variable. ----------------- You just did. ;) So noted. Good luck with all the chores on the list. Hope you can make it. Yar Seveer K75S 93' K75S 90' RIP Nighthawk 450 86' RIP ____________________________________________________________ Causes of Low WBC Counts Some Chemo Can Lower Your White Blood Cell Count. Learn More. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4bd297d838d2310dc7dst05vuc From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Apr 24 10:52:51 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 06:52:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar Birthday Par ty!!! In-Reply-To: <20100424.030315.3332.0@webmail22.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <4BD29543.5774.99347CE@localhost> > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Matt Piechota > To: Yar Seveer > Cc: mac-pac-l at jtan.com > Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] It's happening AGAIN... Sat April 24th, Yar > Birthday Party!!! Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:05:08 -0400 > > Yar Seveer wrote: > > RSVP ASAP > > rayreeves4 at gmail.com > > or > > 215-794-0902 (answering machine announcement says "You've reached a > > little bit of sunshine". Leave a message with your number.) > Ray, Sorry I won't be there, but Saturdays are for racing so that is where I will be. Have a great birthday. Party Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Sat Apr 24 10:57:42 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:57:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jennifer Anniston Better Not Throw Me A Pop Next Weekend... In-Reply-To: <4BD260BF.3070801@argolis.org> Message-ID: <836364895.14967151272106662157.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > > At 6am on Sunday, May 2, 2010, I will at the Exton Diner (Ship Road > and Rt. 100, catty-corner to the Drafting Room), having a > heart-healty, nutrious breakfast. Then around 6:40am, I will ride off > (Rt. 202 to Rt. 309) to Montgomeryville Cycle to help at the > registration desk for the Guiness Book Recording Breaking BMW attempt, > and the Ride For the Cure. I will buy breakfast for five other riders > who join me, and then ride off into history. (This offer does not > include Michael Cantwell, who is riding down from the Adirondacks to > participate in this event, and who will be my guest at the house.) Jack, I will try to make it, but I can not guarantee 6 am. We will be in DC the day before at the zoo, bound to be a little tired. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sat Apr 24 11:37:27 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 07:37:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Two very cool pics from or of space In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4BD29FB7.21751.9BC1B79@localhost> > Scroll back to 23 April if necessary. > http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html > (WS The Sun in ultravoilet false color.) > This was sharp. Worth the look. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 13:02:05 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:02:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Facebook is being used to hack your e-mail, How to STOP IT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Wayne Woodruff wrote: > >> >>Might I also suggest the use of a utility? >> >>The one I have been using for a good many years, and is OK'd by my >>corporate IT dept, is Password Safe >> >>http://pwsafe.org/ >> > > > +1 on password safe. ?I've been using it for years. ?I let it generate > the funky cryptic password. ?I never forget passwords. > > I use freeware KeePass. Also a non-free one liked by friends is eWallet, especially for mobile devices. It's a no-brainer, if you are trying to maintain more than 3 passwords you need one of these simple applications. They all do the obvious: keep your passwords in one safe file that is basically a sortable spread sheet. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From piechota at argolis.org Sat Apr 24 13:23:00 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:23:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Car brake question Message-ID: <4BD2F0B4.2020108@argolis.org> Quick question: on of the disc brakes on my Subaru started hanging up the other day on the way home. I could hear it rubbing on starts and stops, and when I checked, the one rim was nice a warm while the rest were cool. I have it apart now. The caliper is a two-piston design, and one piston is out further than the other. The brake pad is worn on a slope to match. My question is: is the uneven wear indicative of one of the pistons being frozen up or something fairly common? I'm heading out (on the bike) to get a bigger C-clamp to try to push the piston back in[0]. I guess I'll see how that goes. It doesn't look like the pistons are those goofy twist-in design that some cars in the 90s had. [0] I guess more accurately, even them out. From ephoet at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 14:34:42 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:34:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Car brake question In-Reply-To: <4BD2F0B4.2020108@argolis.org> References: <4BD2F0B4.2020108@argolis.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Matt Piechota wrote: > Quick question: on of the disc brakes on my Subaru started hanging up > the other day on the way home. ?I could hear it rubbing on starts and > stops, and when I checked, the one rim was nice a warm while the rest > were cool. > > I have it apart now. ?The caliper is a two-piston design, and one piston > is out further than the other. ?The brake pad is worn on a slope to > match. ?My question is: is the uneven wear indicative of one of the > pistons being frozen up or something fairly common? > > I'm heading out (on the bike) to get a bigger C-clamp to try to push the > piston back in[0]. ?I guess I'll see how that goes. ?It doesn't look > like the pistons are those goofy twist-in design that some cars in the > 90s had. > > [0] I guess more accurately, even them out. > _______________________________________________ Matt; Sounds like a questionable caliper. For the price, just replace it. Brake Pads too, though that will necessitate replacing the other side as well. http://www.car-stuff.com/subarubrakecaliper.htm Pep Boys or AutoZone should be able to supply locally, or your favorite local car parts shop. Don't know your mileage etc, but you could consider replacing both calipers to keep things matched, esp if front brakes. The other one is likely not far behind. You could also do a rebuild of the caliper, but I'm not into putting all that labor into an old caliper..... esp if you want to make it to Ray's party! Erik H From mmehalik at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 14:54:10 2010 From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:54:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Car brake question In-Reply-To: <4BD2F0B4.2020108@argolis.org> References: <4BD2F0B4.2020108@argolis.org> Message-ID: Sounds like a stuck caliper for sure, I'd see if a rebuild kit exists since a twin piston caliper is likely going to be $$$ (esp since it's on a performance car). For reference, I can(and have) get a front caliper for my explorer for ~$30; For my 335? it's a triple digit affair(but also a much better/bigger caliper). As for the pad, just flip it around a put it back on, it'll level out. :-P (before the resident know-it-alls jump on me, I'm KIDDING, replace the pad, it's 'cheap' enough) -mark On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Matt Piechota wrote: > Quick question: on of the disc brakes on my Subaru started hanging up > the other day on the way home. ?I could hear it rubbing on starts and > stops, and when I checked, the one rim was nice a warm while the rest > were cool. > > I have it apart now. ?The caliper is a two-piston design, and one piston > is out further than the other. ?The brake pad is worn on a slope to > match. ?My question is: is the uneven wear indicative of one of the > pistons being frozen up or something fairly common? > > I'm heading out (on the bike) to get a bigger C-clamp to try to push the > piston back in[0]. ?I guess I'll see how that goes. ?It doesn't look > like the pistons are those goofy twist-in design that some cars in the > 90s had. > > [0] I guess more accurately, even them out. > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From 321design at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 15:17:18 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 11:17:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Facebook is being used to hack your e-mail, How to STOP IT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Brian Curry wrote: > We are getting a LOT of spam in coming. ?From multiple ISP sources. > > I strongly suspect it is due to using the SAME PASSWORD for > everything. ?BAD thing to do. ?How many times have you heard that? Why aren't finger print readers used to gain access instead of key strokes? I have looked around, and there seem to be some available to access the data on the flash drive, but I would like a thumb drive with software that can access my sites for me automatically. With all of the security problems, I'm feeling very vulnerable and paranoid. But I like the convenience of being able to manage my finances on the net. It would be hard to go back to paper and snail mail. How do you know that the manufacturer of the password thumb drive hasn't put a Trojan in there? Now I gotta go restock the shelter with food, water, and ammo. -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From piechota at argolis.org Sat Apr 24 15:45:28 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 11:45:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Car brake question In-Reply-To: References: <4BD2F0B4.2020108@argolis.org> Message-ID: <4BD31218.9080108@argolis.org> Mark Mehalik wrote: > Sounds like a stuck caliper for sure, I'd see if a rebuild kit exists > since a twin piston caliper is likely going to be $$$ (esp since it's > on a performance car). For reference, I can(and have) get a front > caliper for my explorer for ~$30; For my 335? it's a triple digit > affair(but also a much better/bigger caliper). That's what I did. New caliper, new pads. I cheaped out on the rotor, it's still really smooth. The caliper (reman.) was $66, pads $23. Definately not worth trying to rebuild. I'm on the fence about the other side. It's an easy enough thing to do, but I don't think I'm going to do it today. Thanks for the help all! From piechota at argolis.org Sat Apr 24 15:55:27 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 11:55:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Facebook is being used to hack your e-mail, How to STOP IT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BD3146F.5060908@argolis.org> Rob Haut wrote: > Why aren't finger print readers used to gain access instead of key > strokes? I have looked around, and there seem to be some available to > access the data on the flash drive, but I would like a thumb drive > with software that can access my sites for me automatically. I'm avoiding fingerprint scanners like the plague. Think about it, once someone breaks the encryption used to store your fingerprint, they (in theory) have a copy of your finger print. How are you going to change that? It would be nice if the scanner didn't store something that could be mapped back to your prints (and perhaps they do). It would also be nice if the fingerprint hash data included a time stamp so it was only valid for say 5 minutes, but I don't trust lazy or unthinking developers to have done that. > With all of the security problems, I'm feeling very vulnerable and > paranoid. But I like the convenience of being able to manage my > finances on the net. It would be hard to go back to paper and snail > mail. How do you know that the manufacturer of the password thumb > drive hasn't put a Trojan in there? To a certain degree it is being overly paranoid, but the convenience is pretty nice. You could always do some funky things such as: - Don't run as admin, but even I don't do that on Windows. I'm too lazy. - Run Linux. It has its own security flaws (although rarer), but 99% of the malware guys are not targeting it. "Security thru obscurity" shouldn't be your only defence, but it can play it's part. - Use a Virtual Machine and only do banking on it. Bonus points for making the VM 'read-only' so even if something did get on it, the next reboot it will go back to the known good state. From ephoet at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 16:32:48 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 12:32:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Car brake question In-Reply-To: <4BD31218.9080108@argolis.org> References: <4BD2F0B4.2020108@argolis.org> <4BD31218.9080108@argolis.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Matt Piechota wrote: > Mark Mehalik wrote: >> Sounds like a stuck caliper for sure, I'd see if a rebuild kit exists >> since a twin piston caliper is likely going to be $$$ (esp since it's >> on a performance car). For reference, I can(and have) get a front >> caliper for my explorer for ~$30; For my 335? it's a triple digit >> affair(but also a much better/bigger caliper). > > That's what I did. ?New caliper, new pads. ?I cheaped out on the rotor, > it's still really smooth. ?The caliper (reman.) was $66, pads $23. > Definately not worth trying to rebuild. > > I'm on the fence about the other side. ?It's an easy enough thing to do, > but I don't think I'm going to do it today. ?Thanks for the help all! > > _______________________________________________ Great, glad that worked for you,Matt My comment about the other side still holds, at least for the pads themselves. If the other caliper is working, you certainly don't HAVE TO replace it. However, brake pads should ALWAYS be replaced in pairs ( esp the front). Note they are typically sold in pairs for that reason. Erik http://www.pelicanparts.com/bmw/techarticles/E36-Brake_Pads/E36-Brake_Pads.htm Brake pads should only be replaced in pairs ? replace both front pads or both rear pads at a time. The same rule applies to the brake discs that should be checked each time you replace your brake pads. http://www.wikihow.com/Replace-Disc-Brakes Always replace brakes in pairs. Pads on both sides, rotors on both sides. Calipers may be replaced singly. From brian at whatever2k.com Sat Apr 24 18:17:24 2010 From: brian at whatever2k.com (Brian Burdette) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 14:17:24 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] For Car Nuts. . . In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BD335B4.7040501@whatever2k.com> On 04/20/2010 08:27 AM, Dick wrote: > http://kansastravel.org/grandpasoldfordgarage.htm > I've met this guy personally. This is a VERY neat place. -- Brian Burdette -- brian at whatever2k dot com -- Pleasant Hill MO, USA From piechota at argolis.org Sat Apr 24 20:33:14 2010 From: piechota at argolis.org (Matt Piechota) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:33:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Car brake question In-Reply-To: References: <4BD2F0B4.2020108@argolis.org> <4BD31218.9080108@argolis.org> Message-ID: <4BD3558A.60606@argolis.org> Erik Hoet wrote: > Great, glad that worked for you,Matt > > My comment about the other side still holds, at least for the pads > themselves. If the other caliper is working, you certainly don't > HAVE TO replace it. > However, brake pads should ALWAYS be replaced in pairs ( esp the > front). Note they are typically sold in pairs for that reason. Yep, point taken. My pads did come as a pair. While the test drive did go fine and the car still stops straight, I will be replacing the other pads fairly quickly. I don't have a ton of time left this weekend, but next weekend (on Saturday) should work. From jasiii at earthlink.net Sat Apr 24 23:06:15 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (James A. Sterling) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Facebook is being used to hack your e-mail, How to STOP IT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> We are getting a LOT of spam in coming. ?From multiple ISP sources. >> >> I strongly suspect it is due to using the SAME PASSWORD for >> everything. ?BAD thing to do. ?How many times have you heard that? > > Why aren't finger print readers used to gain access instead of key > strokes? > > With all of the security problems, I'm feeling very vulnerable and > paranoid. > > Now I gotta go restock the shelter with food, water, and ammo. > The "finger print" reader are OK until you have a cut or dirt The few that I have worked with store the pattern in a file as a collection of ones and zeros... Not as a picture .. The files usually have different formats so a finger reader and software package from vendor A will not work with vendor B.. OK now you have a reader that knows about you.. That can trigger an electronic lock.. But (oh no) it may NOT work with IE or Firefox or web site xyz unless the the web browser knows how the finger print reader works. Usually the finger reader is OK for just loging into the OS with a patch.. OH... A patch which is an add on... For the OS that is usually a one time install, with web browsers that will need updates all the time.. I have seen patches for web browsers but the results were not the best.. This was with readers about 2 years ago, they should be better now but make sure the hardware/software will work with your browser... On passwords, I usually do a combination of letters and then numbers and then other letters with maybe a "upper case number" included Something like bj at 28Ajk this is a complex 8 character password that very few cracking tools will ever get.. And I change my set of passwords at least twice a year.. pia but better safe then surprised Hope this helps fill in some details on the finger readers Jim (changing passwords again) From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sun Apr 25 02:18:20 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:18:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] How to solve the "no bun" problem of KFC's "Double Down sandwich" Message-ID: That is the one with bacon on the inside and chicken on the outside and no bun... :(:( Make a bun with a Krispy Kreme donut Destructions: http://topcultured.com/will-they-build-it-kfc-krispy-kreme-luther-double-down/ -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sun Apr 25 02:30:48 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:30:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Audio Slideshow on Hubble the last 20 years Message-ID: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8638263.stm (WS ~6 minutes long) Very well done with some COOL images. "The world's most famous space telescope has been peering into some of the deepest recesses of the universe for two decades - and is now celebrating its 20th birthday. Take a look at some of the sights it has seen in that time with Professor Alec Boksenberg from the Institute of Astronomy in Cambridge - who was on the European team that helped build Hubble. " -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Sun Apr 25 03:15:32 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:15:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Car brake question In-Reply-To: References: <4BD2F0B4.2020108@argolis.org> Message-ID: <4BD37B94.25566.D16F293@localhost> > Sounds like a stuck caliper for sure, I'd see if a rebuild kit exists > since a twin piston caliper is likely going to be $$$ (esp since it's > on a performance car). For reference, I can(and have) get a front > caliper for my explorer for ~$30; For my 335? it's a triple digit > affair(but also a much better/bigger caliper). > > As for the pad, just flip it around a put it back on, it'll level out. > :-P (before the resident know-it-alls jump on me, I'm KIDDING, replace > the pad, it's 'cheap' enough) > FYI, corrosion is probably the cause for the stuck caliper. I suggest replacing the fluid every 1-2 years. It is a PITA, but it keeps the calipers happy. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From kgbruce1 at gmail.com Sun Apr 25 14:08:51 2010 From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 10:08:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] APRIL RIDERS' DINNER...REMINDER!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to all who have responded! Sue C. writes: Dear Dinner Guy, my husband rides a BMW GS and never takes me anywhere nice for dinner unless it?s with his goofy bunch of motorcycle friends. I?ve been cooped up on this hill all winter and am anxious to go out to eat somewhere decent. Can you please put something together this month so maybe he?ll take me out for a change? Thanks for your kind consideration and please don?t tell him I sent this message?..he?s, well, ya know?.sensitive. Sue C., Cooped up in Coatesville Dear Cooped Up, You?re in luck! The RIDERS? DINNER will be held next Wednesday night, April, 28th at the Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant in Phoenixville http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/phoenixville/ I think you?ll find the Iron Hill restaurant up to your expectations as we?ve dined with them before at another location and we all enjoyed it very much. They have a fine menu and beverage selection and the service I?ve experienced has been first rate. Please encourage him to take you, I think you?ll enjoy it, despite the questionable character(s) of the group. Don?t worry, I?ll be sure to exclude this message from the invitation so he?ll never know of your request. (Funny though, GS guys are usually so thoughtful??) Very Truly Yours, Dinner Guy Hear Ye! Hear Ye! RIDERS? DINNER next Wednesday night, April 28th at the Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant in Phoenixvfille, Pa http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/phoenixville/. We will gather at 6:30 (give or take) to enjoy fine food & beverage, plan trips, talk smack, relax and explore what could possibly be going through someone?s mind to wear a button down tattersall shirt to the monthly breakfast. It?s Spring, the riding contest has begun so if the weather?s good let?s put on a few miles on the road to dethroning the Cheeseheads! If the weather doesn?t cooperate, go ahead and cage it, just get yourself out to the Riders? Dinner next Wednesday night! The fine folks at Iron Hill are looking forward to us coming because I didn?t own up to who we really are. Please let me know if you can make it so I can give them a heads up. However, if you don?t know you?re coming ?til the last minute that?s OK?.just make it to the Riders? Dinner! Winter is over??get out there and EAT, RIDE, WRENCH, REPEAT!!! Thanks, Ken Bruce -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100425/5c3ace55/attachment.html From bmwbrian at gmail.com Sun Apr 25 15:10:18 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:10:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW MOA 2011 Rally: Bloomsburg PA In-Reply-To: <3e633.35090b6d.3905af44@aol.com> References: <3e633.35090b6d.3905af44@aol.com> Message-ID: On 4/25/10, Braveirwin at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/19/2010 9:23:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > bmwbrian at gmail.com writes: > > It is NOT unlikely that "someone" will come by 4 wheels or more. > SWMBO might be that person. Not wanting to ride, but willing to run > SUPPORT. SUPPORT is good. We have been through this before. Someone > in 4 wheels is good. I think Sue Cavanaugh has done this with fuel. > ====================================== > What the hell................... why not load one of my chip trucks like we > did for Jim Robeson's move? We might as well move there for a week. Roddy. I got a note from RJ aka Ron Scribetti who is being obstinate about replying back to the list and I told him I would approve the post, that he will ALSO be there with his truck and "stuff". Quite a compound it will be. Roddy be careful bringing back memories of moving Jim R, people may start twitching uncontrollably again.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwdick at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 19:26:26 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:26:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Harley posts a profit Message-ID: http://motorcycles.about.com/b/2010/04/22/first-quarter-motorcycle-sales-down-21-percent-harley-davidson-posts-profit-despite-earnings-drop.htm -- BMW-Dick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100422/71d6f60c/attachment.html From bmwdick at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 00:10:06 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:10:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: PA Turnpike Officials and DUI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just typical abuse of the system by gummit employees or appointees. I hope the People get angry enough to institute significant change at the polls. We need smaller government, which translates to fewer "no-show" job guys. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:41 PM, edde m wrote: > What gives with the consistent connections? > > http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20100422_Turnpike_official_charged_with_DUI.html > > > -- > edde m > 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), > 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) > Philadelphia, US > web: motoedde > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100422/24fec93f/attachment.html From bmwdick at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 03:10:06 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:10:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Guzzi didn't make it home. In-Reply-To: <8CCB0A698D3A81C-36D0-21512@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCB09E5B3E168D-11F0-70F5@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> <4BD0FD82.7090403@ptd.net> <8CCB0A698D3A81C-36D0-21512@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It has to Italian craftsmanship. heard Caesar had a lion's share of issues with the electrical contractors for the Colessium. But the plumbing worked - different union ;) On 4/22/10, Gary Christman wrote: > His email....... > Here ya go. My fabulous new Italian bike lasted 35 miles. It was > glorious however. Died twice on the way home. 1st for a new battery, > then it wouldn't charge. It went back to the dealer on a trailer. Maybe > I'll get it back next week. They say, (4 out 5 Guzzi owners), the first > 20,000 miles are rough, the next 180,000 miles will be great! Only > 19,965miles to go. I'll have to see for myself. > > Craig > > > -----Original Message----- >> >> That's a damn shame > Italian electrics don't have a great reputation. Continuing that? :(:( > > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- Sent from my mobile device BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 14:25:55 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:25:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jennifer Anniston Better Not Throw Me A Pop Next Weekend... In-Reply-To: References: <03ACE0D0824B408DB3D7E1C00726DCCA@IBM26EEF0D6CE2> Message-ID: I wonder how many cookies I can eat before the ride ;) On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > >From Jim Ellenberg To Riepe -- (Forwarded By Riepe) > > Hey Numnuts, > > Dot and I are going to be sitting at the registration table along side > of you and Bregstein. ?We're going to pass out Big Jim's Chocolate > Chip Cookies and get people to try them. ?I might save a few for you. > I'll be taking names too. > > Big Jim > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 21:24:10 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:24:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: PA Turnpike Officials and DUI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:34 AM, edde m wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Dick wrote: >> Just typical abuse of the system by gummit employees or appointees. I hope >> the People get angry enough to institute significant change at the polls. We >> need smaller government, which translates to fewer "no-show" job guys. > > Not that I'm a fan of CNN BUT are you referring to this? > http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/04/23/sec.porn/index.html?iphonefb > > > > -- > edde m > 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), > 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) > Philadelphia, US > web: motoedde > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > Asleep at the switch, where they? Sorry that sounds like S&M. -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 10:58:37 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 06:58:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jennifer Anniston Better Not Throw Me A Pop Next Weekend... In-Reply-To: <4BD260BF.3070801@argolis.org> References: <4BD260BF.3070801@argolis.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Matt Piechota wrote: > Jack Riepe wrote: >> Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: (SNIP) > I'm number two! ?How exactly did I reach this exalted status? > I'm still alive. -- BMW-Dick From eric.heilveil at siemens.com Wed Apr 21 15:06:34 2010 From: eric.heilveil at siemens.com (Heilveil, Eric) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:06:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Trips, Waypoints & Garmin 2720s In-Reply-To: References: <01a001cae156$6a0c0490$3e240db0$@com> Message-ID: <1BC92F8C1B0CB645AC6D0E712B2C23073E1F89A1@aph0e33a.us002.siemens.net> Be prepared for a story of pain anguish and suffering about two riders quest to do a SS1000 in November in the rain.... Sure we had the right equipment....Well almost Electric gear and bikes with farings..Well I had my 1994 Ducati 900SS...it had a faring of sorts This is almost worthy to have had Riepe write it but that was YEARS before he was riding again.. >From this trip I now know how far I can push myself as well as the penalties for hanging it out quite so far.. Read it for your self.. http://www.largiader.com/stories/ss1k.html Ciao, Duc (still warming up) Dude -----Original Message----- From: Brian Curry [mailto:bmwbrian at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:08 AM To: Doug Cc: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] OT - Trips, Waypoints & Garmin 2720s On 4/21/10, Doug wrote: > "Tick Tock" Scales, and myself are plotting to do a Saddle Sore 1000 soon. > This Saturday is the first potential launch date if the weather holds. While > we are not total wet weather weenies, we don't want to ride for 18 - 20 > hours in the rain, so we are watching the national weather map closely. At Ducdude and Anton to the white courtesy telephone please. Think October or November and going back and forth across PA with lower speed limits. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From eric.heilveil at siemens.com Wed Apr 21 18:55:30 2010 From: eric.heilveil at siemens.com (Heilveil, Eric) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:55:30 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT - Trips, Waypoints & Garmin 2720s In-Reply-To: <01f001cae180$7263b140$572b13c0$@com> References: <01a001cae156$6a0c0490$3e240db0$@com> <1BC92F8C1B0CB645AC6D0E712B2C23073E1F89A1@aph0e33a.us002.siemens.net> <01f001cae180$7263b140$572b13c0$@com> Message-ID: <1BC92F8C1B0CB645AC6D0E712B2C23073E1F9678@aph0e33a.us002.siemens.net> From: Doug [mailto:Doug at pencader.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 2:28 PM To: Heilveil, Eric; 'Brian Curry' Cc: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Subject: RE: [MAC-PAC] OT - Trips, Waypoints & Garmin 2720s DucDude wrote; > Be prepared for a story of pain anguish and suffering about two riders > quest to do a SS1000 in November in the rain.... >>> more snippage > From this trip I now know how far I can push myself as well as the > penalties for hanging it out quite so far.. > Read it for your self.. > http://www.largiader.com/stories/ss1k.html >>> more snips, and >>> end Duc, Nice article. I have also spoken with Mz. Bush about her "outing" for which she never received (or applied!) her certificate. We are juiced about giving it a shot and are watching the weather closely (my buddy has no fewer than THREE weather apps on his Blackberry) to avoid a story too much like yours. Thanks for the heads-up. Best, Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------\ Remember you have 24 hours to do 1000 miles nothing says you have to do it in one sitting.. If the world cooperates you can do 500 miles in the morning say from 0400-1200hrs then take a break and get back on and head back... Another thought is doing a Bun Burner instead "1500 miles in 36 hours" is in some ways that easier. Do 750 miles starting at say 0400 on day one and that should take you to 1500-1600hrs that is 11-12 hours at a good pace and then Get a hotel till 0400 on day two and ride 750miles till 1500hrs again that is 33 hours and 1500 miles and YOU HAD AN 11 HOUR NAP and you have 3 hours at the end just to be safe.... But most of the riding is in the sun shine and you get to nap eat and sleep in the middle...Piece of cake You could even push the time table up a bit leave at 0530 and have near 100% sun light while riding Sunrise on May 1st is @ 0532hrs and sunset is 1954hrs Eric From kgbruce at verizon.net Wed Apr 21 22:05:51 2010 From: kgbruce at verizon.net (Ken Bruce) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:05:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] APRIL RIDERS' DINNER!!! Message-ID: <0L18006T1YQ0FGP0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> Sue C. writes:? Dear Dinner Guy, my husband rides a BMW GS and never takes me anywhere nice for dinner unless it?s with his goofy bunch of motorcycle friends.? I?ve been cooped up on this hill all winter and am anxious to go out to eat somewhere decent.? Can you please put something together this month so maybe he?ll take me out for a change??? Thanks for your kind consideration and please don?t tell him I sent this message ..he?s, well, ya know .sensitive. Sue C., Cooped up in Coatesville Dear Cooped Up,? You?re in luck!? The RIDERS? DINNER will be held next Wednesday night, April, 28th at the Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant in Phoenixville? ?http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/phoenixville/ I think you?ll find the Iron Hill restaurant up to your expectations as we?ve dined with them before at another location and we all enjoyed it very much.? They have a fine menu and beverage selection and the service I?ve experienced has been first rate.? ?Please encourage him to take you, I think you?ll enjoy it, despite the questionable character(s) of the group. Don?t worry, I?ll be sure to exclude this message from the invitation so he?ll never know of your request.? (Funny though, GS guys are usually so thoughtful ) Very Truly Yours, Dinner Guy Hear Ye!? Hear Ye!?? RIDERS? DINNER next Wednesday night, April 28th at the Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant in Phoenixvfille, Pa? http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/phoenixville/.? We will gather at 6:30 (give or take) to enjoy fine food & beverage, plan trips, talk smack, relax and explore what could possibly be going through someone?s mind to wear a button down tattersall shirt to the monthly breakfast.? It?s Spring, the riding contest has begun so if the weather?s good let?s put on a few miles on the road to dethroning the Cheeseheads!? If the weather doesn?t cooperate, go ahead and cage it, just get yourself out to the Riders? Dinner next Wednesday night! The fine folks at Iron Hill are looking forward to us coming because I didn?t own up to who we really are.? Please let me know if you can make it so I can give them a heads up.? However, if you don?t know you?re coming ?til the last minute that?s OK .just make it to the Riders? Dinner!?? Winter is over get out there and EAT, RIDE, WRENCH, REPEAT!!! Thanks, Ken Bruce ? From rtill6 at aol.com Wed Apr 21 23:37:34 2010 From: rtill6 at aol.com (rtill6 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:37:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] just a tease Message-ID: <8CCAFC2C101621D-1760-29DC@webmail-d017.sysops.aol.com> All I have found the perfect t-shirt for the Pac, especially those with a fondness for a certain Billy. I hope to show you next time we get together. Gordon From jack.riepe at gmail.com Sun Apr 25 15:42:17 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:42:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] APRIL RIDERS' DINNER!!! In-Reply-To: <0L18006T1YQ0FGP0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0L18006T1YQ0FGP0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: I will be there, riding my bike, if the rain has stopped. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jhw4458 at verizon.net Sun Apr 25 16:15:32 2010 From: jhw4458 at verizon.net (Clyde Jacobs) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:15:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] new Duc Message-ID: http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=129&sid=312447&pid=6 From 321design at gmail.com Sun Apr 25 16:43:38 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob Haut) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:43:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] =?windows-1252?q?K100_RT_=96=9285_-_=242100_Collegevill?= =?windows-1252?q?e?= Message-ID: http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/1708594485.html Cheap bike - guy says no issues only a few cosmetics - caveat emptor -- Rob Haut West Chester PA '05 Rockster '61 FC-170DRW From Ducdude at verizon.net Sun Apr 25 17:57:32 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:57:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Guzzi didn't make it home. References: <8CCB09E5B3E168D-11F0-70F5@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> <4BD0FD82.7090403@ptd.net> <8CCB0A698D3A81C-36D0-21512@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <04AE245FAD0F49C4A860AF931C648EAE@heilveil5e3fdd> ] New Guzzi didn't make it home. > On 4/22/10, Gary Christman wrote: >>> >>> That's a damn shame >> Italian electrics don't have a great reputation. Continuing that? :(:( >> >> > It has to Italian craftsmanship. heard Caesar had a lion's share of > issues with the electrical contractors for the Colessium. Actuall Julius Ceaser did not build the Colessium in Rome and it was not called The Colessium it was called Amphitheatrum Flavium. The Emporior Flavium built it in 70ce with spoiles gained from putting down the revolt in Judea and the accompaning looting, and subaquient sacking of the Judean Temple in Jeruslam. The temple walls were said to be covered in gold. Henece the deadacation date of 70ce in the outside of the Amphitheatrum as well as the images carved in the Victory Arch accross from the Amphitheatrum wich depect the looting of the temple... See you can learn somthing during thoes tour guide speeches.. Ciao, Ducdudeus Maxumus From gary5410 at aol.com Sun Apr 25 18:00:01 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:00:01 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Guzzi didn't make it home. In-Reply-To: <04AE245FAD0F49C4A860AF931C648EAE@heilveil5e3fdd> References: <8CCB09E5B3E168D-11F0-70F5@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com><4BD0FD82.7090403@ptd.net><8CCB0A698D3A81C-36D0-21512@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> <04AE245FAD0F49C4A860AF931C648EAE@heilveil5e3fdd> Message-ID: <8CCB2B8429ABCEF-FB0-10961@Webmail-d125.sysops.aol.com> A fitting name! Gary Ducdudeus Maxumus ? -----Original Message----- From: Eric Ducdude From Ducdude at verizon.net Sun Apr 25 18:14:00 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:14:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Guzzi didn't make it home. References: <8CCB09E5B3E168D-11F0-70F5@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com><4BD0FD82.7090403@ptd.net><8CCB0A698D3A81C-36D0-21512@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> <04AE245FAD0F49C4A860AF931C648EAE@heilveil5e3fdd> <8CCB2B8429ABCEF-FB0-10961@Webmail-d125.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5C9221DBFC8343DB962524CAE63879CC@heilveil5e3fdd> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Christman" To: ; Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] New Guzzi didn't make it home. A fitting name! Gary Ducdudeus Maxumus ------------------------------------------------------ Thanks Gary!! The Duchess gave me that name...No idea why though??? :-) Hmmmm, My friends just call me, Duc From dbcase at gmail.com Sun Apr 25 18:45:12 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:45:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New Guzzi didn't make it home. In-Reply-To: <04AE245FAD0F49C4A860AF931C648EAE@heilveil5e3fdd> References: <8CCB09E5B3E168D-11F0-70F5@webmail-d075.sysops.aol.com> <4BD0FD82.7090403@ptd.net> <8CCB0A698D3A81C-36D0-21512@Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com> <04AE245FAD0F49C4A860AF931C648EAE@heilveil5e3fdd> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Eric Ducdude wrote: > > > Actuall ?Julius Ceaser did not build the Colessium in Rome and it was not > called The Colessium ?it was called Amphitheatrum Flavium.?... and the first concert held at the outdoor arena was the Roman rapper, Flava Flavum. Davius Casius From daviddenesowicz at gmail.com Sun Apr 25 22:11:38 2010 From: daviddenesowicz at gmail.com (David Denesowicz) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:11:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] =?windows-1252?q?K100_RT_=96=9285_-_=242100_Collegevill?= =?windows-1252?q?e?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Are the majority of K-bikes for sale '85 models? It seems to be so. Just sayin'. On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Rob Haut <321design at gmail.com> wrote: > http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/1708594485.html > > Cheap bike - guy says no issues only a few cosmetics - caveat emptor > > > -- > Rob Haut > West Chester PA > '05 Rockster > '61 FC-170DRW > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- David Denesowicz Box 212 Malvern, PA 19355 215-850-7061 daviddenesowicz at gmail.com '79 R100/7 "You have to go out, you don't have to come back" From mrmevans at gmail.com Sun Apr 25 22:34:05 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:34:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] APRIL RIDERS' DINNER!!! In-Reply-To: References: <0L18006T1YQ0FGP0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > I will be there, riding my bike, if the rain has stopped. > I plan to be there too Ken, riding closely behind Jack so I don't get wet. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 01:47:43 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:47:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oil leak fixed on R1150RT Message-ID: An oil leak started after the bike sat for 3 weeks while I was in Germany. The drip fell from the right cylinder base onto the exhaust, creating Indian smoke signals at traffic lights, very annoying. It is similar to the oil leak I had at the left cylinder after I rebuilt the engine in Winter of 2009. It took a day or so of careful investigation to find the source, and to convince myself that the only fix was to remove the right cylinder and reseal it where it meets the block. This was a tough job that I didn't want to do, but once again it would have cost more than the bike is worth to have a pro do it. Finished the job tonight. So far so good, no leaks. Here's a photo of the leak location and parts involved: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31374622 at N00/?saved=1 -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 01:56:00 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:56:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] APRIL RIDERS' DINNER!!! In-Reply-To: <0L18006T1YQ0FGP0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0L18006T1YQ0FGP0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Ken Bruce wrote: ..... > The RIDERS? DINNER will be held next > Wednesday night, April, 28th at the Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant in > Phoenixville? ?http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/phoenixville/ > Ken, I'll be there, thanks. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Apr 26 02:13:04 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:13:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen - spackling has begun Message-ID: <8CCB2FD237F9D3D-1564-266F2@webmail-m042.sysops.aol.com> Spackling sucks! http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/IMG1066/847735623_dFvzP-M.jpg Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Apr 26 02:15:32 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:15:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen - spackling has begun - right link In-Reply-To: <8CCB2FD237F9D3D-1564-266F2@webmail-m042.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCB2FD237F9D3D-1564-266F2@webmail-m042.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CCB2FD7B7DEEA7-1564-2674C@webmail-m042.sysops.aol.com> http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/11375302_NhjXH#847735623_dFvzP -----Original Message----- From: Gary Christman To: mac-pac-l at jtan.com Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:13 pm Subject: OT Kitchen - spackling has begun Spackling sucks!? ? ? http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/IMG1066/847735623_dFvzP-M.jpg? ? Gary Christman? '07 R 1200 GS Adventure? From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Apr 26 02:19:17 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:19:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oil leak fixed on R1150RT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCB2FE01D11AB6-1564-267C2@webmail-m042.sysops.aol.com> Great job Doug......you are a pro! Gary -----Original Message----- From: Doug Raymond This was a tough job that I didn't want to do, but once again it would have cost more than the bike is worth to have a pro do it. From gsrider at opposedtwin.com Mon Apr 26 02:33:58 2010 From: gsrider at opposedtwin.com (Steve Semonsky) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:33:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Carry-On Trailers? Message-ID: Does anyone have experience with the Carry-On trailer brand? I saw a used one for sale locally, poked around on the web, and I see they're sold at Lowe's (among other places). I'm just looking for the basic [non-enclosed] type to haul a bike or two. If I'm going to invest in a trailer I plan to take reasonable care of it and want it to last a while... Thanks, Steve From rogers.george at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 02:33:59 2010 From: rogers.george at gmail.com (Rogers George) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:33:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jennifer Anniston Better Not Throw Me A Pop Next Weekend... In-Reply-To: References: <4BD260BF.3070801@argolis.org> Message-ID: Jack, I'd join you for breakfast, but I'm leading the DE contingent to the event. Best wishes, Rogers George http://writing-rag.com http://rogersgeorge.com http://mushroomstomotorcycles.com On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Dick wrote: > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Matt Piechota wrote: >> Jack Riepe wrote: >>> Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: > (SNIP) > >> I'm number two! ?How exactly did I reach this exalted status? >> > > I'm still alive. > -- > BMW-Dick > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From chrisjac at ptd.net Mon Apr 26 02:36:20 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:36:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT Kitchen - spackling has begun In-Reply-To: <8CCB2FD237F9D3D-1564-266F2@webmail-m042.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCB2FD237F9D3D-1564-266F2@webmail-m042.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4BD4FC24.70500@ptd.net> Gary Christman wrote: > Spackling sucks! > > > > http://gary5410.smugmug.com/Family/New-Kitchen/IMG1066/847735623_dFvzP-M.jpg > Spackling sucks when you suck at it. That is one job I leave for someone who knows how to truly tape seams and corners. 3 gallons of a 5 gallon bucket are on the floor when I do it. I dont do such well and willing hire that out when the job is a room or larger. If you need someones name, local to you and me, let me know. Chris Jaccarino From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Apr 26 02:40:23 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:40:23 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oil leak fixed on R1150RT Message-ID: <3e781.540429b7.39065717@aol.com> In a message dated 4/25/2010 9:48:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com writes: Finished the job tonight. So far so good, no leaks. =================================== Good job, Doug! I enjoyed the photos of Deutschland more than of the 1150. I have so many questions. Here's a few. Are the rabbits raised as pets or for meat? I saw a house with a skylight in the roof. It looked like a terracotta roof. I installed skylights for a few years but I would never attempt one in a roof like that. I couldn't guarantee no leaks. Were the monks at a funeral? Did they sing? Or did they recite prayers? I hope I can spend time countryside there some day. Would you be my interpreter? Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100425/c79ed86e/attachment.html From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Apr 26 02:44:16 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:44:16 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Carry-On Trailers? Message-ID: <3ea3f.10e3d9a0.39065800@aol.com> In a message dated 4/25/2010 10:34:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gsrider at opposedtwin.com writes: Does anyone have experience with the Carry-On trailer brand? I saw a used one for sale locally, poked around on the web, and I see they're sold at Lowe's (among other places). I'm just looking for the basic [non-enclosed] type to haul a bike or two. If I'm going to invest in a trailer I plan to take reasonable care of it and want it to last a while... Thanks, Steve ======================================= Big Tex makes good trailers. Google them and find a dealer locally. Roddy. I've used one very hard for 20 years. _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100425/a24756f5/attachment.html From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 03:41:15 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:41:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R back from Germany Message-ID: Actually I've been back since 4/7, meant to share a little of the story. I went to SW Germany for a week with my girlfriend Hanne to care for her 89 year old mom, who was apparently in her last days. It was a good experience, helping to care for Marta. But she slowly improved while we were there, so we extended once, then twice. It is a separate story of how expensive the Lufthansa tickets became, I'm working on getting a refund, I never intended to buy the plane. Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to returning to Germany to help with Marta's care some more. I have been accepted into Hanne's extended family there for many years, a great enrichment of my life. I usually visit all the many cousins and relatives, and get invited to strange and wonderful experiences with them, like mountain climbing in the Alps, scuba diving in the Red Sea, BMW motorcycling in gorgeous countryside, long walks in the forest, and most of all family dinners and celebrations of all kinds, from weddings to Sunday dinners, and holidays like "Sylvester Abend", their notion of New Years Eve. The variety and quality of food and Schwabisch cooking is beyond description. The most amazing thing is the family cohesion and appreciation of each other. It is routine for 3 or 4 generations to be at the table every day, and fathers and sons have lively interactions and shared jobs. Mothers are adored, and consulted for all problems. It is a different, wonderful world. This time I turned down possibilities of far-flung excursions in order to stay near home and Marta. But I accepted one invitation of note. Two of the younger guys invited me to a 'sauna experience' in nearby Schwabisch Hall, and since it was only to be for 4 hours I accepted, not really knowing what to expect. After our showers in the ultra-modern, ultra-clean new facility, they said, "We leave the bathrobes here on these hooks". For three hours all the men and fine-looking women were unclothed, while they lounged between the hot and cold pools, and huddled in the various almost-too-hot packed sauna rooms. Quite unforgettable, especially the 30 or so ladies from late teens to, well, my age. Here is a selection of pics (no, I didn't take any in the sauna). http://www.flickr.com/photos/31374622 at N00/sets/72157623760946504/ They include an Easter Good Friday procession of Catholics and Evangelicals combined, in the local cemetery which I always find extremely beautiful. Families typically spend a few hours a week beautifying the graves. Also a visit to an old-time farming community museum with authentic houses and barns. One niece raises chickens and rabbits at Marta's house, more as pets now though they were once a big part of the diet. The family compound still includes the old barn and hand implements with which they harvested grain and orchard up until the 60's. Some pics just show some regular typical villages tucked back in the hills near where we live. In the first pic, I am helping 'brother-in-law' Roland stack his firewood, after we have split it on his hydraulic splitter. Roland can fix practically anything if he has a mind to, and I earn my keep by fixing the rest. In answer to Roddy's question, all roofs are made of terra cotta. They last for hundreds of years. A broken tile can be replaced from the attic, one at a time. They do not ever leak. Most newer houses have installed skylights, perfectly leak-tight. The sashes of windows and skylights tilt out or in, for easy cleaning. All windows have "Rolladen", metal blinds that roll down like window shades on the outside, for security and for control of heat in or out. They are rolled down at night, every window on every floor. Germans think we are insane to have fiberglas roofs and leaky window sashes, and I think they marvel at our lackadaisical security with undefended windows. Don't laugh if you haven't ever been invaded by Turks or Mongols. I just love going there. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 04:11:37 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 00:11:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Betting against the housing market Message-ID: This is an interesting read. Especially with today's Goldman Sachs headlines. http://www.vanityfair.com/business/features/2010/04/wall-street-excerpt-201004 (NSFW*) http://www.vanityfair.com/business/features/2010/04/wall-street-excerpt-201004?printable=true (WS version no pictures that would be an issue.) Michael Burry always saw the world differently?due, he believed, to the childhood loss of one eye. So when the 32-year-old investor spotted the huge bubble in the subprime-mortgage bond market, in 2004, then created a way to bet against it, he wasn?t surprised that no one understood what he was doing. In an excerpt from his new book, The Big Short, the author charts Burry?s oddball maneuvers, his almost comical dealings with Goldman Sachs and other banks as the market collapsed, and the true reason for his visionary obsession. *The current issue of VF has a photography feature of several Tiger Woods' girlfriends. The lead photo is a curvaceous blond laying across a bed wearing but a smile. It is not a large picture, but unmistakable. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From ironbt01 at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 04:17:56 2010 From: ironbt01 at gmail.com (Greg Roberts) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:17:56 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Carry-On Trailers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Steve Semonsky wrote: > Does anyone have experience with the Carry-On trailer brand? I saw a used one for sale locally, poked around on the web, and I see they're sold at Lowe's (among other places). I'm just looking for the basic [non-enclosed] type to haul a bike or two. >Thanks, > Steve Steve, A few years ago I was looking for a trailer. The ones I saw at Lowe's and Home Depot didn't impress me. My next-door neighbor has a Carry-On that looks similar to: http://carryontrailercorp.thomasnet.com/item/2000-lb-gvwr-mesh-floor-trailers-2/2000-lb-gvwr-mesh-floor-trailers/5x8g?&seo=110 which he bought to move his riding lawn mower between his house and his mother-in-law's house (120+ miles away). Lowe's web site lists a price of $598, with a 1650 lb load limit. Build quality on Bob's isn't that great. In fact, he had a weld fail not long after he bought it. 12" tires have to spin awfully fast at highway speeds. The height of the side rails is pretty short. The difference between One Bike & Two Bikes is significant. I bought a 4X 8 trailer as I wanted one that would be narrow enough to pull behind my wife's Jeep Liberty. It has no trouble with with any size bike. Bracketry I installed limits me to 130 width front tire and 190 rear, but you could carry a Wing or K1200LT on it. If you step up to wanting to carry two large-size bikes with saddlebags, you are just about going to require a 6X10, though you could possibly get by with an open 5X10. >From my experience, if you get the mesh flooring you'll want to come up with some sort of rails. Long hauls on mesh floors tend to cut diamonds into the tires. Also, you'll want to distribute the weight over a larger area than just where the tires hit; otherwise the mesh will give, creating low spots in the bed. For a single bike you can install tie-down points on the frame rails & uprights & center the bike on the trailer. For two bikes you'll need to offset & stagger the bikes, so keep in mind that you'll need tie-down points out in the middle of the trailer. For a single bike you can get by with bolting wood runners to help keep the bike's tires from kicking out. If I were planning on two bikes I go with at least some sort of removable front tire loop or carrier (so I could use the trailer for other purposes). I found this place that has a bunch of different styles of wheel chocks: http://www.discountramps.com/wheel-chocks-straps.htm?gclid=COLIoMq_o6ECFQOU7QodgwrIwQ A nice unit that appears to be a knock-off of the Condor system is: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=97841 And the Condor system: http://store.condor-lift.com/ A little more minimalist design but still offering cam-over support like the Condor is: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=96349 or http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200409163_200409163 Basic bracket with quick-removal connectors: http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200395524_200395524 About as basic as I'd be willing to use on my bikes: http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200361044_200361044 and at the lowest end of the commercial item scale (and I wouldn't use this on a good bike) is:: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=97145 I'm getting a little long & rambling here, so I'll mention you'll need some GOOD straps. I use these: http://powertye.com/store/index.php If your bike has room under the fairing you can get by with soft-tye loops, if not you'll need something like a Canyon Dancer 2 http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L2=&L3=&L4=&item=TUC_10-0800_G Back to the subject of trailers, I think you can do better than the Carry-On. You didn't mention a price on the used trailer, but for comparison: I bought a new, from the factory, Baxter Bros. trailer with a 4'X8' bed . Frame is made of heavy 2" angle steel, has full fenders with inner skirts and required lighting. Braces that angle from the tongue back to the front of the spring mounts (under the bed) are 2" square tubing, while the tongue is 2"X3" rectangular tubing. At my request they lengthened the tongue by 6", installed a spare tire carry rack on the front center of the trailer bed, and welded in two additional pieces that angle down from the front rail at a 45 degree angle, which is where I mounted my main two tie points. Trailer also has a 4'X4' rear loading ramp that is made of 5 ribs of 1-1/2" square tubing floored with expanded mesh. Trailer has 15" wheels & tires (so I can use easy-to-get used car tires that have plenty of load capacity), axle & springs are rated at 3500 lbs, and included a spare tire and rim all for $465. Greg Roberts Wadley, AL K1100LT (for sale) Concours 14 KLR-650 From jack.riepe at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 05:00:21 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 01:00:21 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] APRIL RIDERS' DINNER!!! In-Reply-To: References: <0L18006T1YQ0FGP0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: Dear Mr. Evans: That last comment didn't even rate a reply... So ignore this one. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 05:02:36 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 01:02:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jennifer Anniston Better Not Throw Me A Pop Next Weekend... In-Reply-To: References: <4BD260BF.3070801@argolis.org> Message-ID: Dear Rogers: Please tell the 155 riders coming up from Delaware how much we appreciate this vote of confidence. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 05:26:15 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 01:26:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Carry-On Trailers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Steve: I bought a Kendon 2-rail motorcycle trailer, with a 2,000 pound capacity. I have trailered two bikes on this, and took one out to Nebraska at 70 mph. Easy to maintain... And they have casters to store them upright, yet with the cabability to move them around in the garage. Mine was $2400 five years ago. There are cheaper options from Kendon now. Other Mac Pac riders use these as well. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Apr 26 10:02:32 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:02:32 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R back from Germany Message-ID: <2b8c.6ca02cf2.3906beb8@aol.com> In a message dated 4/25/2010 11:41:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com writes: It is a different, wonderful world. ======================================== Doug, thanks for sharing your wonderful view into Hanne's family's world. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Roddy. ____________________________________ From: bmwbrian at gmail.com To: Braveirwin at aol.com Sent: 4/26/2010 12:12:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: engineering marvel http://www.highestbridges.com/wiki/index.php?title=Baluarte_Bridge -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100426/cee8b4fb/attachment.html From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Apr 26 10:31:07 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:31:07 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Carry-On Trailers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50935.151.199.248.89.1272277867.squirrel@151.199.248.89> > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Steve Semonsky > wrote: >> Does anyone have experience with the Carry-On trailer brand? I saw a >> used one for sale locally, poked around on the web, and I see they're >> sold at Lowe's (among other places). I'm just looking for the basic >> [non-enclosed] type to haul a bike or two. > >>Thanks, >> Steve > If you are looking for a local source there is Red Trailers in Quakertown PA. I purchased some tires and rims from them and they were great to work with. They have a very wide line of small trailers. Kits too. http://www.redtrailers.com/Trailers.asp?type=folding Ride Safe, Joe From Ducdude at verizon.net Mon Apr 26 10:38:26 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:38:26 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Carry-On Trailers? References: Message-ID: <7707A7CB67724DF089692231D2E25935@heilveil5e3fdd> Many owners seems to love the little trailer though the poor paint quality and durability and the small hard to get and expensive replacement tires are the biggest hassle... It may be 2.5 times the money but for hauling bikes you can not beat a Kendon Trailer http://www.kendonusa.com/single_trailer.htm Many Pac members have them.... Ciao, Duc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Semonsky" To: "mac-Pac" Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 10:33 PM Subject: [MAC-PAC] Carry-On Trailers? > Does anyone have experience with the Carry-On trailer brand? I saw a used > one for sale locally, poked around on the web, and I see they're sold at > Lowe's (among other places). I'm just looking for the basic [non-enclosed] > type to haul a bike or two. If I'm going to invest in a trailer I plan to > take reasonable care of it and want it to last a while... > > Thanks, > Steve > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From kgbruce1 at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 11:28:04 2010 From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 07:28:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] April RIDERS' DINNER....REMINDER!!! Message-ID: Thanks to all who have responded! Sue C. writes: Dear Dinner Guy, my husband rides a BMW GS and never takes me anywhere nice for dinner unless it?s with his goofy bunch of motorcycle friends. I?ve been cooped up on this hill all winter and am anxious to go out to eat somewhere decent. Can you please put something together this month so maybe he?ll take me out for a change? Thanks for your kind consideration and please don?t tell him I sent this message?..he?s, well, ya know?.sensitive. Sue C., Cooped up in Coatesville Dear Cooped Up, You?re in luck! The RIDERS? DINNER will be held next Wednesday night, April, 28th at the Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant in Phoenixville http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/phoenixville/ I think you?ll find the Iron Hill restaurant up to your expectations as we?ve dined with them before at another location and we all enjoyed it very much. They have a fine menu and beverage selection and the service I?ve experienced has been first rate. Please encourage him to take you, I think you?ll enjoy it, despite the questionable character(s) of the group. Don?t worry, I?ll be sure to exclude this message from the invitation so he?ll never know of your request. (Funny though, GS guys are usually so thoughtful??) Very Truly Yours, Dinner Guy Hear Ye! Hear Ye! RIDERS? DINNER next Wednesday night, April 28th at the Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant in Phoenixvfille, Pa http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/phoenixville/. We will gather at 6:30 (give or take) to enjoy fine food & beverage, plan trips, talk smack, relax and explore what could possibly be going through someone?s mind to wear a button down tattersall shirt to the monthly breakfast. It?s Spring, the riding contest has begun so if the weather?s good let?s put on a few miles on the road to dethroning the Cheeseheads! If the weather doesn?t cooperate, go ahead and cage it, just get yourself out to the Riders? Dinner next Wednesday night! The fine folks at Iron Hill are looking forward to us coming because I didn?t own up to who we really are. Please let me know if you can make it so I can give them a heads up. However, if you don?t know you?re coming ?til the last minute that?s OK?.just make it to the Riders? Dinner! Winter is over??get out there and EAT, RIDE, WRENCH, REPEAT!!! Thanks, Ken Bruce -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100426/2e73b653/attachment.html From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Apr 26 11:42:36 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 07:42:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R back from Germany In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCB34CB3C8E13F-214C-A12D@webmail-d088.sysops.aol.com> Enjoyed the story and pics! Thanks for posting this! Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure -----Original Message----- From: Doug Raymond To: Mac-Pac Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:41 pm Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R back from Germany Actually I've been back since 4/7, meant to share a little of the story. I went to SW Germany for a week with my girlfriend Hanne to care for her 89 year old mom, who was apparently in her last days. It was a good experience, helping to care for Marta. But she slowly improved while we were there, so we extended once, then twice. It is a separate story of how expensive the Lufthansa tickets became, I'm working on getting a refund, I never intended to buy the plane. Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to returning to Germany to help with Marta's care some more. I have been accepted into Hanne's extended family there for many years, a great enrichment of my life. I usually visit all the many cousins and relatives, and get invited to strange and wonderful experiences with them, like mountain climbing in the Alps, scuba diving in the Red Sea, BMW motorcycling in gorgeous countryside, long walks in the forest, and most of all family dinners and celebrations of all kinds, from weddings to Sunday dinners, and holidays like "Sylvester Abend", their notion of New Years Eve. The variety and quality of food and Schwabisch cooking is beyond description. The most amazing thing is the family cohesion and appreciation of each other. It is routine for 3 or 4 generations to be at the table every day, and fathers and sons have lively interactions and shared jobs. Mothers are adored, and consulted for all problems. It is a different, wonderful world. This time I turned down possibilities of far-flung excursions in order to stay near home and Marta. But I accepted one invitation of note. Two of the younger guys invited me to a 'sauna experience' in nearby Schwabisch Hall, and since it was only to be for 4 hours I accepted, not really knowing what to expect. After our showers in the ultra-modern, ultra-clean new facility, they said, "We leave the bathrobes here on these hooks". For three hours all the men and fine-looking women were unclothed, while they lounged between the hot and cold pools, and huddled in the various almost-too-hot packed sauna rooms. Quite unforgettable, especially the 30 or so ladies from late teens to, well, my age. Here is a selection of pics (no, I didn't take any in the sauna). http://www.flickr.com/photos/31374622 at N00/sets/72157623760946504/ They include an Easter Good Friday procession of Catholics and Evangelicals combined, in the local cemetery which I always find extremely beautiful. Families typically spend a few hours a week beautifying the graves. Also a visit to an old-time farming community museum with authentic houses and barns. One niece raises chickens and rabbits at Marta's house, more as pets now though they were once a big part of the diet. The family compound still includes the old barn and hand implements with which they harvested grain and orchard up until the 60's. Some pics just show some regular typical villages tucked back in the hills near where we live. In the first pic, I am helping 'brother-in-law' Roland stack his firewood, after we have split it on his hydraulic splitter. Roland can fix practically anything if he has a mind to, and I earn my keep by fixing the rest. In answer to Roddy's question, all roofs are made of terra cotta. They last for hundreds of years. A broken tile can be replaced from the attic, one at a time. They do not ever leak. Most newer houses have installed skylights, perfectly leak-tight. The sashes of windows and skylights tilt out or in, for easy cleaning. All windows have "Rolladen", metal blinds that roll down like window shades on the outside, for security and for control of heat in or out. They are rolled down at night, every window on every floor. Germans think we are insane to have fiberglas roofs and leaky window sashes, and I think they marvel at our lackadaisical security with undefended windows. Don't laugh if you haven't ever been invaded by Turks or Mongols. I just love going there. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From gary5410 at aol.com Mon Apr 26 11:49:28 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 07:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: engineering marvel(For future rides) In-Reply-To: <2d28.a6b3b2b.3906bfc1@aol.com> References: <2d28.a6b3b2b.3906bfc1@aol.com> Message-ID: <8CCB34DA9626D79-214C-A27E@webmail-d088.sysops.aol.com> We should go there when it opens and ride across it! Gary Christman "07 R 1200 GS Adventure -----Original Message----- From: Braveirwin at aol.com http://www.highestbridges.com/wiki/index.php?title=Baluarte_Bridge From mrmevans at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 11:54:15 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 07:54:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: engineering marvel(For future rides) In-Reply-To: <2d28.a6b3b2b.3906bfc1@aol.com> References: <2d28.a6b3b2b.3906bfc1@aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 6:06 AM, wrote: > > This will be a ride we can all look forward to. I wish I could be there > helping to build it. ?Roddy. > Then there's El Espinazo del Diablo, the original Devil's Backbone highway - that looks fun. (direct link to image on that page) http://www.highestbridges.com/wiki/images/thumb/7/73/12BaluartePuenteDevilsBackboneMap.jpg/750px-12BaluartePuenteDevilsBackboneMap.jpg -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From motorrader at verizon.net Mon Apr 26 13:16:06 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:16:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Jennifer Anniston Better Not Throw Me A Pop NextWeekend... References: <4BD260BF.3070801@argolis.org> Message-ID: <700302E96D4D4E88B39E26DEA07C0DF8@dellfe483b726d> Jack, I'd join you for breakfast, but I'm leading the DE contingent to the event. Best wishes, Rogers George Rogers, You are a good man. Try to round up and redirect any other wondering BMW riders you see on your trek north. See you Sunday. Todd From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 15:02:11 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:02:11 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oil leak fixed on R1150RT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > It took a day or so of careful investigation to find the source, and > to convince myself that the only fix was to remove the right cylinder > and reseal it where it meets the block. ?This was a tough job that I > didn't want to do, but once again it would have cost more than the > bike is worth to have a pro do it. > > Finished the job tonight. ?So far so good, no leaks. Well done Doug! Harleys had that problem often (Pre 1998) untill they copied Honda and put an O ring there. Now no leaks. Dano From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 15:08:40 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:08:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: "Value Priced" netbook on Woot.com Message-ID: http://www.woot.com Acer Aspire One 10.1? Netbook with Windows 7 Starter $219.99 If you want something SMALL to stuff into your saddlebag to download your pictures to, and then upload them using WiFi, this is it. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From misevich at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 15:29:48 2010 From: misevich at gmail.com (Dave Misevich) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:29:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: "Value Priced" netbook on Woot.com In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Brian Curry wrote: > http://www.woot.com > > Acer Aspire One 10.1? Netbook with Windows 7 Starter > $219.99 > > If you want something SMALL to stuff into your saddlebag to download > your pictures to, and then upload them using WiFi, this is it. I bought one of these Acers just before my trip to Brazil. I love it. I've got big hands and can type on it just fine. It also fits perfectly in my tank bag. Mine has the dual core processor, but I doubt that makes much of a usability difference. Mine does have the big battery, which is fantastic. I can use it on and off all day without a plugging in. I wouldn't want one like the woot deal with a 3 cell battery. Mine was $300 at Costco, I've seen them since in the $280 range at Walmart. -- Dave Misevich Dexter, MI '85 K100RT '98 R1100RT From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 15:31:18 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:31:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Light Camera's cause academic dispute due to "academic research" being "Googling". Message-ID: http://www.tampabay.com/news/localgovernment/as-red-light-cameras-grow-more-popular-an-academic-dispute-at-usf-simmers/1090237 "ST. PETERSBURG ? An academic spat among University of South Florida researchers is muddying the debate about the growing use of red light cameras at Tampa Bay area intersections. USF's College of Public Health concluded that instead of improving safety, the cameras actually make intersections more dangerous. Further, its study said, the cameras give insurance companies a reason to jack up rates for those who get tickets. On the other side of the argument is Ed Mierzejewski, director of USF's Center for Urban Transportation Research. He calls the cameras an effective way to reduce crashes, and has been on a one-man crusade to debunk the public health college's 2008 study." Then there is the basis of the one man crusade.... "In a recent interview, Mierzejewski said he's never researched red light cameras himself. The last study the center did on it was in 1998. When asked how he reached his research conclusions, he replied: "Looking up stuff on Google and comparing what I find."" And this is what passes for "serious" academic research these days??? Or is he somehow "In it for the money" too, like the municipalities. Keep your eyes open, you WILL be BOGGLED as new schemes for money extraction are worked up and implimented. Frequently "for the children" cause they WILL be paying for the stupidity running rampant. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From ephoet at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 15:38:06 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:38:06 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oil leak fixed on R1150RT In-Reply-To: <3e781.540429b7.39065717@aol.com> References: <3e781.540429b7.39065717@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:40 PM, wrote: > =================================== > Good job, Doug! > ?I saw a house with a skylight in the roof. It looked like a ?terracotta > roof. I installed skylights for a few years but I would never attempt ?one in > a roof like that. I couldn't guarantee no leaks. ?Roddy. > > > -------------- next part -------------- Roddy; Houses with tile roofs and skylights are quite common in Europe. I'm not sure you can ever fully guarantee "no leaks", but careful installation with the appropriate flashing and sealing should work. http://www.veluxsolutions.com/static/products/flashing.html Erik From dbcase at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 16:02:50 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:02:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oil leak fixed on R1150RT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Doug Raymond wrote: > > An oil leak started after the bike sat for 3 weeks while I was in Germany. > .... > ....?So far so good, no leaks. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/31374622 at N00/?saved=1 > > -- --------------- > Doug Raymond Doug, You are indeed fearless. Congrats on the job and welcome back from Der Vaterland. Dave Case Lansdale, PA From mjcantwe at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 18:44:30 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:44:30 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC My weather forcast Message-ID: Here is the NWS forcast for me for tomorrow and Wednesday. F'king sucks. http://www.weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/12997?phenomena=WS&significance=A&areaid=NYZ034&office=KBTV&etn=0003 This had better melt by Friday morning! Disgruntled in Adks, Michael From bmwbrian at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 18:54:00 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:54:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC My weather forcast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/26/10, Michael Cantwell wrote: > Here is the NWS forcast for me for tomorrow and Wednesday. F'king sucks. > > http://www.weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/12997?phenomena=WS&significance=A&areaid=NYZ034&office=KBTV&etn=0003 > > This had better melt by Friday morning! Or at least off the roads. And especially BRIDGES. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From rayreeves4 at juno.com Mon Apr 26 18:58:26 2010 From: rayreeves4 at juno.com (Yar Seveer) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:58:26 GMT Subject: [MAC-PAC] 4/24 Yar's Birthday Party Sat!!! It's happening AGAIN... Message-ID: <20100426.145826.25291.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com> It was great to see you all. Much thanks to Jim Sterling for his early arrival to help with set up even though he couldn't stay for the party. Jim's Birthday was the day after mine, Sunday! Happy Birthday to you too Jim!!! Steve Semonsky with Sathana and Caelyn (wife and daughter). All around great guy & his lovely wife adventured out with their 14mo adorable baby girl. Caelyn was loved by all, what an adventurer she is, soon she will be riding her own GS. ;) Bill Zane ever vigilant to attend my parties! His quiet presence adds an air of refinement to the gatherings. Bills keen sight did not miss my vintage Samsonite folding chairs circa 1981. Hope you still managed to get your chores done before the rain. Thanks for coming, I hope York Rd wasn't too hard on you for your ride back. Charlie & his joyous wife Roz Shaffer who brighten an already sunny day. You are always welcome even if you do like whole wheat hot dog rolls. ;) I'm happy that I can provide you with an east Mac Pac destination from time to time. Glad you got to take the first ride of the season. Hope you will be able to attend my next party. Todd the mysterious. (Who was that guy?) Sorry, I already forgot your last name. Have a party & invite the Pac & you get to meet some of the nicest people. Of course he pointed out that he has been in my store before since he is a local. I just can't remember all my customers faces. lol Let me know if I forgot anyone... Thanks all for coming & adding to the total count of 28 people who showed up even though I invited them to a party which I threw with only 48 hours notice. Many of my guests left saying they had a great time & what nice friends I have. Well sure, I didn't invite the jerky friends to this party. I invite them to a different party... ;) Yar Seveer K75S 93' K75S 90' RIP Nighthawk 450 86' RIP ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4bd5e2aa758041faa8dst01vuc From darkside at ix.netcom.com Mon Apr 26 19:10:00 2010 From: darkside at ix.netcom.com (Darkside) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:10:00 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Oil leak fixed on R1150RT Message-ID: <19198916.1272309000643.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >From: Dan Whitfield >Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Oil leak fixed on R1150RT > > >Harleys had that problem often (Pre 1998) untill they copied Honda and >put an O ring there. Now no leaks. > >Dano nah, harley's evo's "seeped" oil from the base gaskets, but they didnt leak 8^) <- see smiley face peace eric From chrisjac at ptd.net Mon Apr 26 19:43:43 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:43:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Paging Cory....Kimi's Other Half Message-ID: <4BD5ECEF.9000600@ptd.net> Cory, Could you please contact me. 610-966-3500 Chris Jaccarino From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Mon Apr 26 20:02:33 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:02:33 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC My weather forcast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <22802.12.181.211.35.1272312153.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > On 4/26/10, Michael Cantwell wrote: >> Here is the NWS forcast for me for tomorrow and Wednesday. F'king sucks. >> >> http://www.weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/12997?phenomena=WS&significance=A&areaid=NYZ034&office=KBTV&etn=0003 >> >> This had better melt by Friday morning! > Man that sux. Hope it melts for you. Ride Safe, Joe From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 20:10:51 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:10:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 4/24 Yar's Birthday Party Sat!!! It's happening AGAIN... In-Reply-To: <20100426.145826.25291.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100426.145826.25291.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Yar Seveer wrote: > It was great to see you all. > Thanks for the update, sorry I missed it, still getting my bike back on the road after the maintenance work. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From mrmevans at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 20:11:05 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:11:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] MC My weather forcast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > On 4/26/10, Michael Cantwell wrote: >> Here is the NWS forcast for me for tomorrow and Wednesday. F'king sucks. >> >> ?http://www.weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/12997?phenomena=WS&significance=A&areaid=NYZ034&office=KBTV&etn=0003 >> >> ?This had better melt by Friday morning! > I just heard similar news from a colleague in Alaska - they were expecting a bunch of rain but surprise - now they have a ton of snow. As they say - it goes with the territory. The flip side of that is I spoke to a guy I know who moved down to Florida a few years back - he just told me he sold his bike because the sumemrs were too hot for riding and the non-summer months have just been too cold. Go figure. -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA From Braveirwin at aol.com Mon Apr 26 20:25:41 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:25:41 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Red Light Camera's cause academic dispute due to "academic rese... Message-ID: <2cd68.53e95eb4.390750c5@aol.com> In a message dated 4/26/2010 11:31:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bmwbrian at gmail.com writes: USF's College of Public Health concluded that instead of improving safety, the cameras actually make intersections more dangerous. Further, its study said, the cameras give insurance companies a reason to jack up rates for those who get tickets. ================================================= Brian, I've been told that there is an organization in Cincinnati, OH that went up against the city and forced them to remove all their red light cameras. I don't remember the name of the org, but I can get it. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Eastern Daylight Time, > bmwbrian at gmail.com writes: > > > USF's College of Public Health concluded that instead of ?improving > safety, the cameras actually make intersections more ?dangerous. > Further, its study said, the cameras give insurance companies a ?reason > to jack up rates for those who get tickets. > ================================================= > > Brian, I've been told that there is an organization in Cincinnati, OH that > went up against the city and forced them to remove all their red light > cameras. ?I don't remember the name of the org, but I can get it. ?Roddy. Are you referring to this? http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/cincinnati-voters-ban-red-light-cameras/ -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From Braveirwin at aol.com Tue Apr 27 00:03:48 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:03:48 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] Riding comfort questions. Message-ID: <3ab28.16a7ebf0.390783e4@aol.com> Almost all of my riding over the last 45 years has been in an upright "touring position". I recently bought a K100 RS with a trailer. It is strong. It was priced well. I was packing for trips way too high and heavy (I do like being comfortable and still need the economy of camping) for safety and trying to keep the bike shiny side up when stopped. The trailer is easy to get used to and I know enough to compensate for the pressure on the bike when braking, accelerating and carving turns. I rode it pulling the trailer to the "Color In The Catskills" rally last Fall. I liked everything about it but the "leaned over forward seating position". Are there things I can do with this bike other than installing Bar Backs to adjust my position closer to what I'm accustomed to without trying to "twist" the bike into something it isn't appropriate or safe to do? Thank you in advance for any thoughtful and knowledgeable responses. Roddy Irwin, Arborist of Berks County '92 K 75 RT, '89 K 100 RS with trailer, '85 R 80 RT, '73 R60/5, '74 CB 200 T, and assorted dirt bikes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100426/57ef8314/attachment.html From chrisjac at ptd.net Tue Apr 27 00:09:08 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:09:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] New KLM Adventure Riding Suit Message-ID: <4BD62B24.3090505@ptd.net> Anyone see the new KLM new riding gear....similar to two piece Aerostich suits? Designed for the true off road adventure rider and or rally racer. Similar to Aerostich suits except that the jacket is designed to actually be pulled tight against you with an internal strap system when you stuff the pockets full of things which is an absolute must for the true hard core off road racers since most race organizations do not allow wearing of backpacks....you can carry gear in pockets, but no backpacks. I never figured that out. Suit is Gortex, integral kidney belt, extra collar for neck brace, fantastic waterproofing it seems, latest and greatest armor and the price................$2500. Jacket is $1595, pants $895. Not customizable from the manufacturer. I got to try one on today and it didnt do much for me. Supposedly the first run of 300 to 400 suits has already been sold out. Chris Jaccarino From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Tue Apr 27 00:52:26 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Riding comfort questions. In-Reply-To: <1046364910.15907181272329280457.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <330560446.15909281272329546141.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > I rode it pulling the trailer to the "Color In The Catskills" rally >last Fall. I liked everything about it but the "leaned over forward seating >position". Are there things I can do with this bike other than installing >Bar Backs to adjust my position closer to what I'm accustomed to without >trying to "twist" the bike into something it isn't appropriate or safe to do? >Thank you in advance for any thoughtful and knowledgeable responses. I had to tweek my K1100RS a little. The bars are adjustable and you can move them back some. If the K100 has the "floating bars" you can change that to a solid mount. The foot pegs may be modified as well. Also changing the seat can help a lot. I have a Corbin gunfighter seat which has a "scoop" for the butt. This change in the seat lowers the butt and has the effect of raising the bars. Changing the bars and moving to bar backs means changing the wiring and cables and a lot more complicated than a changing the seat. Looking around at Ebay or the MOA marketplace may get you a seat cheap. Good luck! John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 01:13:22 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:13:22 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Riding comfort questions. In-Reply-To: <330560446.15909281272329546141.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1046364910.15907181272329280457.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <330560446.15909281272329546141.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On 4/26/10, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: in the seat lowers the butt and has the effect of raising the bars. Changing the bars and moving to bar backs means changing the wiring and cables and a lot more complicated than a changing the seat. You also need a Corbin butt. Changing that if necessary is far harder. No wiring changes needed. Esp. on an RS since the same switch and cable sets as on the RT are used. Cables maybe. A set of C bars gives you lift and not a lot of width change. Popular on the K75S which started with narrow bars. I have put BarBacks on the RT. I had to reroute the wiring to behind the triple tree instead of in front of it. Cables were the same. Both of which were easier than changing my butt. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net Tue Apr 27 02:06:35 2010 From: JOHNCLAUSS at comcast.net (johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss)) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 02:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Riding comfort questions. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1574233428.15943421272333995057.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >No wiring changes needed. Esp. on an RS since the same switch and >cable sets as on the RT are used. Cables maybe. > >I have put BarBacks on the RT. I had to reroute the wiring to behind >the triple tree instead of in front of it. Cables were the same. > >Both of which were easier than changing my butt. I was actually thinking of the wiring for the heated grips, which can be easily broken and because its routed inside of the bars, has to be changed. My butt is a Corbin butt, I guess, and if he would like to try my seat on for size I would be happy to accommodate that. John Clauss K1100RS R75/6 In America we want every one to know about the good works we do, anonymously. - Jay Leno From chrisjac at ptd.net Tue Apr 27 02:11:56 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:11:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Sargent Seat Overstock Sale for BMWs Message-ID: <4BD647EC.1000301@ptd.net> http://www.sargentcycle.com/wsspecialsbmw.htm From bmwbrian at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 02:22:37 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:22:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Riding comfort questions. In-Reply-To: <1574233428.15943421272333995057.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1574233428.15943421272333995057.JavaMail.root@sz0039a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On 4/26/10, johnclauss%40comcast.net (John Clauss) wrote: > > > >No wiring changes needed. Esp. on an RS since the same switch and > >cable sets as on the RT are used. Cables maybe. > > > > >I have put BarBacks on the RT. I had to reroute the wiring to behind > >the triple tree instead of in front of it. Cables were the same. > > > >Both of which were easier than changing my butt. > > I was actually thinking of the wiring for the heated grips, which can be easily broken and because its routed inside of the bars, has to be changed. Not a big whupp to me. The connection wiring is not a problem. The grips always. Disconnect the wires from the connector and then just be gentle or customary. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From jjs1601 at comcast.net Tue Apr 27 02:29:01 2010 From: jjs1601 at comcast.net (Joe) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:29:01 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] What Are You Doing On May 2, 2010!!!! Riding To Hatfield I hope... References: Message-ID: <016d01cae5b1$660fe410$6601a8c0@joe> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> r Immediate Release! April 23, 2010 BMW Motorcycle Riders Go After Guinness Record in Hatfield, Pa In Fundraising Endeavor For St. Jude Children?s Research Hospital >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was going to ride a buddies brand new bike, but alas, this falls on the same date as my son's graduation. Good luck on the ride! Joe S. From jjs1601 at comcast.net Tue Apr 27 02:50:21 2010 From: jjs1601 at comcast.net (Joe) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:50:21 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: engineering marvel(For future rides) References: <2d28.a6b3b2b.3906bfc1@aol.com> Message-ID: <01c301cae5b4$60ec8df0$6601a8c0@joe> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then there's El Espinazo del Diablo, the original Devil's Backbone highway - that looks fun. (direct link to image on that page) http://www.highestbridges.com/wiki/images/thumb/7/73/12BaluartePuenteDevilsBackboneMap.jpg/750px-12BaluartePuenteDevilsBackboneMap.jpg -- Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm with you on that one Mike, I'd rather ride that ANY day! - Joe S. From jjs1601 at comcast.net Tue Apr 27 02:54:25 2010 From: jjs1601 at comcast.net (Joe) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:54:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Riding comfort questions. References: <3ab28.16a7ebf0.390783e4@aol.com> Message-ID: <01cf01cae5b4$f23d7b70$6601a8c0@joe> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Almost all of my riding over the last 45 years has been in an upright > "touring position". I recently bought a K100 RS with a trailer.......... > Are there things I can do with this bike other than installing > Bar Backs to adjust my position closer to what I'm accustomed to without > trying to "twist" the bike into something it isn't appropriate or safe to > do? > Thank you in advance for any thoughtful and knowledgeable responses. > > Roddy Irwin, Arborist of Berks County >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen the bike, but if it has a large wind screen you might try going with a smaller one. With a smaller screen, the wind blast on my chest keeps the weight off my hands on my VFR. Really helps on LONG days. - Joe S. From kgbruce1 at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 12:28:56 2010 From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:28:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] April RIDERS' DINNER..TOMORROW NIGHT!!! Message-ID: TOMORROW NIGHT and the weather LOOKS GREAT!! Thanks to all who have responded! Sue C. writes: Dear Dinner Guy, my husband rides a BMW GS and never takes me anywhere nice for dinner unless it?s with his goofy bunch of motorcycle friends. I?ve been cooped up on this hill all winter and am anxious to go out to eat somewhere decent. Can you please put something together this month so maybe he?ll take me out for a change? Thanks for your kind consideration and please don?t tell him I sent this message?..he?s, well, ya know?.sensitive. Sue C., Cooped up in Coatesville Dear Cooped Up, You?re in luck! The RIDERS? DINNER will be held TOMORROW NIGHT, Wednesday, April 28th at the Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant in Phoenixville http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/phoenixville/ I think you?ll find the Iron Hill restaurant up to your expectations as we?ve dined with them before at another location and we all enjoyed it very much. They have a fine menu and beverage selection and the service I?ve experienced has been first rate. Please encourage him to take you, I think you?ll enjoy it, despite the questionable character(s) of the group. Don?t worry, I?ll be sure to exclude this message from the invitation so he?ll never know of your request. (Funny though, GS guys are usually so thoughtful??) Very Truly Yours, Dinner Guy Hear Ye! Hear Ye! RIDERS? DINNER TOMORROW NIGHT, April 28th at the Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant in Phoenixvfille, Pa http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/phoenixville/. We will gather at 6:30 (give or take) to enjoy fine food & beverage, plan trips, talk smack, relax and explore what could possibly be going through someone?s mind to wear a button down tattersall shirt to the monthly breakfast. It?s Spring, the riding contest has begun so if the weather?s good let?s put on a few miles on the road to dethroning the Cheeseheads! If the weather doesn?t cooperate, go ahead and cage it, just get yourself out to the Riders? Dinner TOMORROW NIGHT! The fine folks at Iron Hill are looking forward to us coming because I didn?t own up to who we really are. Please let me know if you can make it so I can give them a heads up. However, if you don?t know you?re coming ?til the last minute that?s OK?.just make it to the Riders? Dinner! Winter is over??get out there and EAT, RIDE, WRENCH, REPEAT!!! Thanks, Ken Bruce -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(up to the donator)? > > > Hugh > 2007 f650GS "Thumper" > Collegeville, PA > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From jasiii at earthlink.net Tue Apr 27 23:15:01 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:15:01 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: It is all Relative Message-ID: <28830752.1272410101215.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > >Do we have a rough count for Sunday? > >iMn. Also what is the donation? (up to the donator)? > > >Hugh I will be going up early to help with anything I understand the donation is whatever.. I am planing on $10.00 The northbound Blue Route is now three lanes to the turnpike Southbound is the left by it's self and the right two with construction and jams; at least last Saturday. The single left lane was a constant 45 MPH .. no stops.. See everyone there Jim James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From jasiii at earthlink.net Tue Apr 27 23:19:43 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:19:43 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] What Are You Doing On May 2, 2010!!!! Riding To Hatfield I hope... Message-ID: <31909200.1272410384077.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > >I was going to ride a buddies brand new bike, but alas, this falls on the >same date as my son's graduation. Good luck on the ride! > >Joe S. Congratulation on your son's graduation. Enjoy the time with him.. they do grow up. Jim James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From bmwrebel at dejazzd.com Tue Apr 27 23:44:57 2010 From: bmwrebel at dejazzd.com (bmwrebel at dejazzd.com) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:44:57 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] K75T FOR SALE Message-ID: <20100427184457.UP9WD.1534765.root@ispmxfep13-z02> I have a 1986 K75T for sale. Please see Craigs List for Lancaster, PA for details & photos. Thank you; From earle.bare at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 00:14:46 2010 From: earle.bare at gmail.com (Earle Bare) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:14:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Pre-Dinner Happy Hour Message-ID: All are welcome to stop by the M-P Bikeroom for a beer or soda and some bs-ing on Wednesday evening before the Iron Hill dinner. Directions at: http://www.mac-pac.org/, click on "Tire changing" on the left. Current drafts at the Bikeroom are the Manayunk Brewery California Dreamin' Double IPA, Stoudt's Karnival K?lsch and Troegs Nugget Nectar. Iron Hill in P-ville is about 15 minutes north of the shop. Stop by after 4:30 pm. Earle Bare From dbcase at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 00:56:05 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:56:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW Record Ride - Parking Usher Volunteers needed Message-ID: Pac, Todd Trumbore, Jack Riepe and myself met last week at Montgomeryville Cycle Center to look over the parking lot to figure out how to stage the BMWs as they come in. Jack and Todd have some great ideas on how this should proceed. My job is to get the bikes to their mark. I could use some volunteers to help usher the bikes in and to their cue spot. I need about 4 to 10 people to do this, maybe more. Please let me know if you'd like to volunteer. I can fill you in on details from there. Thanks! Dave Case BMW staging coordinator From rayreeves4 at juno.com Wed Apr 28 01:45:47 2010 From: rayreeves4 at juno.com (Yar Seveer) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 01:45:47 GMT Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5/9 Mother's Day Buffet Breakfast @ Heartsville Fire Co. Message-ID: <20100427.214547.11977.1@webmail19.vgs.untd.com> Who is interested in going this year? The day will be here SOON! I am thinking I can make it around 10-10:15 AM after church. ----------------- Annual Mother's Day Buffet Breakfast Sunday, May 9th 2010 8 AM to 12 PM Heartsville Fire Co. http://www.hartsvillefc.org/whatsnew.htm Menu Includes: Eggs to Order Omelets Scrambleded Eggs Pancakes Hash Brown Potatoes Sausage Toast Fruit Salad Coffee, Tea, Milk, Juice ALL YOU CAN EAT! Adults (8 and over) $7.50 Children (ages 3-7) $5.00 Under 3 free Location: 1195 York Rd. Warminster, PA. 18974 Map Link: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&channel=s&ie=UTF8&q=hartsville+fire+co+PA&fb=1&split=1&gl=us&cid=0,0,844573501284105616&ei=qNQBSujOAozEM_nfhOEH&hq=hartsville+fire+co+PA&hnear=&ll=40.226335,-75.095179&spn=0.006963,0.013089&z=16&iwloc=A Yar Seveer K75S 93' K75S 90' RIP Nighthawk 450 86' RIP ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 From cjschaffer at verizon.net Wed Apr 28 02:04:00 2010 From: cjschaffer at verizon.net (C & R Schaffer) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:04:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5/9 Mother's Day Buffet Breakfast @ Heartsville Fire Co. In-Reply-To: <20100427.214547.11977.1@webmail19.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100427.214547.11977.1@webmail19.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <7C17AC4639C746FDA775599B837543D1@RozCharliePC> Sorry--for the past 20 years we have worked the Komen Race for the Cure. Roz was one of the core group who brought the Race to Philadelphia in 1991, our son thought up the idea of the Children's Tent (that we've manned since its inception in 1994) and Roz threatened her sister (who was Director of Women's Marketing at Ford Motor Company) with harm if she did not submit an application to have Ford Motor Company become a national sponsor (which worked as they have been a national sponsor since 1994). So, at 5 AM, you can find us on the Parkway. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Yar Seveer" Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:45 PM To: Subject: [MAC-PAC] 5/9 Mother's Day Buffet Breakfast @ Heartsville Fire Co. > Who is interested in going this year? The day will be here SOON! > I am thinking I can make it around 10-10:15 AM after church. > ----------------- > Annual Mother's Day Buffet Breakfast > Sunday, May 9th 2010 > 8 AM to 12 PM > Heartsville Fire Co. > http://www.hartsvillefc.org/whatsnew.htm > > Menu Includes: > Eggs to Order > Omelets > Scrambleded Eggs > Pancakes > Hash Brown Potatoes > Sausage > Toast > Fruit Salad > Coffee, Tea, Milk, Juice > > ALL YOU CAN EAT! > > Adults (8 and over) $7.50 > Children (ages 3-7) $5.00 > Under 3 free > > Location: > 1195 York Rd. Warminster, PA. 18974 > Map Link: > http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&channel=s&ie=UTF8&q=hartsville+fire+co+PA&fb=1&split=1&gl=us&cid=0,0,844573501284105616&ei=qNQBSujOAozEM_nfhOEH&hq=hartsville+fire+co+PA&hnear=&ll=40.226335,-75.095179&spn=0.006963,0.013089&z=16&iwloc=A > > Yar Seveer > K75S 93' > K75S 90' RIP > Nighthawk 450 86' RIP > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! > http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2839 - Release Date: 04/27/10 > 14:27:00 > From jaburke4 at verizon.net Wed Apr 28 02:06:38 2010 From: jaburke4 at verizon.net (John Burkhauser) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:06:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Very cool Military Photos Message-ID: http://www.tom-phillips.info/images/cool.pics.military.htm http://www.tom-phillips.info/images/cool.pics.military.2.htm http://www.tom-phillips.info/images/cool.pics.military.3.htm John Burkhauser jaburke4 at verizon.net From gary5410 at aol.com Wed Apr 28 03:26:40 2010 From: gary5410 at aol.com (Gary Christman) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:26:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] My suggestion for a MAC PAC Dinner........... Message-ID: <8CCB499C0B5B0AD-1E88-7287@webmail-m066.sysops.aol.com> My suggestion for a MAC PAC dinner........... Haven't been there, but definitely want to go! http://www.photoscanada.com/gallery/northwestterritories/yellowknife_7 Gary Christman '07 R 1200 GS Adventure From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 05:20:41 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 01:20:41 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R going back to Germany Message-ID: My girlfriend and I are going to Germany on Thursday for a long weekend. We just got news that her mother Marta died peacefully in her sleep Tuesday morning. The funeral is Saturday in Sulzbach/Murr. She was ready to go after many months of decline and we are not grieving, but I will miss Marta. Sorry I can't join all of you on the Sunday GWR ride. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From ridebackroads at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 08:57:38 2010 From: ridebackroads at gmail.com (Carl Boler) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:57:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: Alert: Al-Nakba Day May 15 - Middle East and North Africa In-Reply-To: <8B2EE11B32A976428276CBB901B8D8B005C38FFF@rstaemail02.rsta.drs.master> References: <8B2EE11B32A976428276CBB901B8D8B005C38FFF@rstaemail02.rsta.drs.master> Message-ID: Hey, if anyone was planning a ride through the middle east please read the following.....I'll still be in the region. Carl Worldcue? Alert Severity: Warning Alert Security: Rallies across the Middle East and North Africa marking Al-Nakba (Catastrophe Day) likely on May 15. Anti-Western sentiment high; avoid all demonstrations. The locations affected by this alert are: - Algeria - Egypt - Iran - Jordan - Kuwait - Lebanon - Oman - Qatar - Syria - Palestinian Authority - Yemen This alert began 27 Apr 2010 19:18 GMT and is scheduled to expire 16 May 2010 23:59 GMT. - *Event*: Al-Nakba Day - *Date*: May 15 - *Location*: Middle East and North Africa (MENA) - *Impact*: Tight security, possible violence *Summary* Potentially large rallies marking the 62nd anniversary of Al-Nakba (Catastrophe Day) will likely take place throughout the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) on May 15. Al-Nakba commemorates the failed 1948 Arab invasion against the then newly established state of Israel. These rallies, designed to allow Arabs to show solidarity with Palestinians, will likely have an anti-Western and anti-Israeli tone and could turn violent. *Background and Analysis* The most significant rallies will likely occur in Palestinian communities in Israel, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and the Palestinian Authority. These rallies will likely be centered in or near Palestinian refugee camps, mosques and main squares. Smaller rallies are likely in other major MENA population centers. The controversial foreign and domestic policies of the right-wing government in Israel, which are generally considered anti-Palestinian and anti-Arab, could spur greater turnout and anger than normal. If demonstrators threaten US or Israeli interests in the region, security forces will likely move to disperse the demonstrations. *Advice* Avoid all protests. Expect localized traffic disruptions. Stay away from places of worship, Palestinian refugee campus, embassies and consulates as well as Israeli representative offices in regional states with which Israel maintains diplomatic or trade relations. Related Advice: Tips for reducing your vulnerability in the event of civil unrest. 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It's a balmy 39F this morning in SE PA, Mike. We'll try to send some of that warmth up your way. Eco Dan, whatcha got down there in NC you can send us to help send Mike? Dave Case From kgbruce1 at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 12:55:13 2010 From: kgbruce1 at gmail.com (Ken Bruce) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:55:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] April RIDERS' DINNER..TONIGHT!!! Message-ID: RIDERS' DINNER TONIGHT!! Thanks to all who have responded! Sue C. writes: Dear Dinner Guy, my husband rides a BMW GS and never takes me anywhere nice for dinner unless it?s with his goofy bunch of motorcycle friends. I?ve been cooped up on this hill all winter and am anxious to go out to eat somewhere decent. Can you please put something together this month so maybe he?ll take me out for a change? Thanks for your kind consideration and please don?t tell him I sent this message?..he?s, well, ya know?.sensitive. Sue C., Cooped up in Coatesville Dear Cooped Up, You?re in luck! The RIDERS? DINNER will be held TONIGHT, Wednesday, April 28th at the Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant in Phoenixville http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/phoenixville/ I think you?ll find the Iron Hill restaurant up to your expectations as we?ve dined with them before at another location and we all enjoyed it very much. They have a fine menu and beverage selection and the service I?ve experienced has been first rate. Please encourage him to take you, I think you?ll enjoy it, despite the questionable character(s) of the group. Don?t worry, I?ll be sure to exclude this message from the invitation so he?ll never know of your request. (Funny though, GS guys are usually so thoughtful??) Very Truly Yours, Dinner Guy Hear Ye! Hear Ye! RIDERS? DINNER TONIGHT, April 28th at the Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant in Phoenixvfille, Pa http://www.ironhillbrewery.com/phoenixville/. We will gather at 6:30 (give or take) to enjoy fine food & beverage, plan trips, talk smack, relax and explore what could possibly be going through someone?s mind to wear a button down tattersall shirt to the monthly breakfast. It?s Spring, the riding contest has begun so if the weather?s good let?s put on a few miles on the road to dethroning the Cheeseheads! If the weather doesn?t cooperate, go ahead and cage it, just get yourself out to the Riders? Dinner TONIGHT! The fine folks at Iron Hill are looking forward to us coming because I didn?t own up to who we really are. Please let me know if you can make it so I can give them a heads up. However, if you don?t know you?re coming ?til the last minute that?s OK?.just make it to the Riders? Dinner! Winter is over??get out there and EAT, RIDE, WRENCH, REPEAT!!! Thanks, Ken Bruce -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100428/abe83d97/attachment.html From jack.riepe at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 13:01:27 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:01:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: It had better start melting!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Mike (Cantwell): While you are currently still freezing your as off, it is supposed to get in the mid-40's tomorrow (in Lake Placid), and in the mid-50's on Friday. My thought is that the townships are regarding this as a mid-spring storm and not giving it the full winter treatment. My concern is that you are apt to hit pockets of black ice or frozen run-through going under or over the bridges. I rather imagine the situation will have to be assessed on Friday morning. Don't take stupid chances. It might be smart to take a run down to the Northway in the car on Friday morning. Your other option would be to give Lee Kazanas a call and see iof he could take your bike in his pickup down to Saratoga, or below the snowfall line. Either way, you are going to get get covered with shit on your run south! It couldn't happen to a nice guy. Keep us posted. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Apr 28 13:04:46 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:04:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: It is all Relative References: Message-ID: <7FD6F33FD6A7445696117224BE0FDE3B@dellfe483b726d> > Do we have a rough count for Sunday? > iMn. Also what is the donation? (up to the donator)? Hugh, At this point, any count would be speculative, but the response so far has been very favorable and if we are lucky enough to have the weather forcasted, I would expect a count that would very much challenge the current record . I am not done reaching out to riders. Saturday if can find the time, I plan on attending Hermy's Open House and handing out another 100 flyers. Your contributions to St. Jude Children's Reasearch Hospital are completely voluntary, although very much appreciated and encouraged.........................nobody will be asking for dime. Thanks for your interest and we hope to see you Sunday. Regards, Todd From jack.riepe at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 13:06:45 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:06:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] April RIDERS' DINNER..TONIGHT!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Ken Bruce: This seems like the perfect opportunity to ride my bike to dinner tonight. Is there parking for this place, or is it on the street? -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From wateredg at interlog.com Wed Apr 28 13:06:34 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:06:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: It had better start melting!! References: Message-ID: Hello all, From: "Michael Cantwell" > http://picasaweb.google.com/mjcantwe/Apr282010#5465133687344961074 And you call Canada "The Great White North" ;-) It is 43'F right now, with a high of 61'F expected tomorrow, and 72'F expected Friday. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From mrmevans at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 13:09:04 2010 From: mrmevans at gmail.com (mrmevans at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:09:04 +0000 Subject: [MAC-PAC] April RIDERS' DINNER..TONIGHT!!! Message-ID: <1327474654-1272460140-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1924952892-@bda788.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Jack, Parking on the street or in the lot across the street. Michael Evans | Kimberton, PA (Sent via Blackberry) From jack.riepe at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 13:11:03 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:11:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R going back to Germany In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Doug: Leslie and I are sorry to hear this and extend our condolences in your loss. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you. -- Fondest regards, Jack From jack.riepe at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 13:14:37 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:14:37 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] April RIDERS' DINNER..TONIGHT!!! In-Reply-To: <1327474654-1272460140-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1924952892-@bda788.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <1327474654-1272460140-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1924952892-@bda788.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Dear Mike (Evans): Are you coming tonight? Never mind... I'll read your answer on Facebook, with the 2000 entries you left yesterday. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Apr 28 13:16:04 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:16:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] K75T FOR SALE References: <20100427184457.UP9WD.1534765.root@ispmxfep13-z02> Message-ID: <6B5BD6FC07A04449AD85A9D9FB609854@dellfe483b726d> >I have a 1986 K75T for sale. Please see Craigs List for Lancaster, PA for >details & photos. Thank you; Now, don't even think of selling that bike before Sunday if you know what I mean :-) Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Apr 28 13:38:03 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:38:03 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW Record Ride - Parking Usher Volunteers needed References: Message-ID: > I could use some volunteers to help usher the bikes in and to their > cue spot. I need about 4 to 10 people to do this, maybe more. > > Please let me know if you'd like to volunteer. I can fill you in on > details from there. > > Thanks! > Dave Case > BMW staging coordinator Dave, I've got 8 to 10 new safety (bright yellow) vests and I will be bringing about 10 or 12 orange cones. So far we have the following that stepped up to volunteer: Jack Reipe Dick Bregstein Dave Case Jim Ellenburg Dot Ellenburg Rick Kramer Dave Crank Jim Sterling Dave Zillhardt & wife Mike Cantwell Rick Cavaliere Also, I am hooking up six or seven friends with some of my motorbikes. As part of this arrangement, they have all agreed to work in a forced labor camp under your direction. Todd From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 13:38:20 2010 From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (hugh mccann) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:38:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Battery Problems Message-ID: Okey-doke folks, I just dusted off the f650GS that has been sitting in a garage all winter. Well monitored by my brother-in-law to check for that little green light that indicated "charging" was on, the bike was on the battery tender 24/7 until i disconnected yesterday. I re-assemble the butt-rest and walked it outside for its first taste of daylight since Mid-December (whole lotta personal stuff going on that has since cleared the way to riding again). I turn the key through its seventy-two different selections (those Germans) and see bright lights everywhere: Oil, ABS, and i think a HEART and a SMILEY FACE as well, so i am feeling confident. I commence starting procedures and then Blah, nothing, no start and those bright lights quickly dim. The speedometer gets a ticky-tack flutter that i have seen before indicating "no go-go juice". HISTORY: Since October of 2007 i have had 2 instances of long idle times (2-3 weeks of not cranking the engine over) that required the battery tender. Question: What to do? Should the battery be replaced? if so how, because it looks like the battery is hidden under 100 years of German engineering and a Gordian Knot or two. What was the deal with my battery tender not keeping up with its part of the deal? This is putting a damper on this Sunday. Other info: Model: f650GS, 2007, 4300 miles (From Hermys), Inspected 10/2009 Any advice will be helpful, Sincerely, Powerless in Collegeville. Hugh From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Apr 28 13:52:20 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:52:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Here are my notes from Yesterday References: <12E5237606FD44D4A6D78F36B080E55B@dellfe483b726d> <18DB8F2E3FA5429DAFFD887959DE97A8@dellfe483b726d> <15C6CC85D4A842989A72445C694C2976@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: Gents: I like Dave's signs. Now I have one suggestion... Riders are going to start pulling into Montgomeryville Cycle as early as 8:30am. The turn-off (to the right) from Rt. 309 (leading up to the motorcycle shop driveway) is very confusing. I went passed it twice the first time I tried to get to Montgomeryville Cycle. (In other words, riders like myself are expecting a driveway off Rt. 309. The sign for the dealership is really only clear after you pass the turnoff. I was thinking that a sign like the left half of Dave's, but with the arrow pointing right, would be a good thing to put at the point of that turn-off. Fondest regards, Jack Good suggestion Jack. All riders heading north on Rt 309 must bear to the right at the jug handle to enter the driveway for MCC. Todd From mmehalik at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 14:07:28 2010 From: mmehalik at gmail.com (Mark Mehalik) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:07:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Battery Problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds familiar, my f650cs likes to pull the same trick now and again. Here's what I know. I'm sure more will chime in with gory, complex, and in the end useless, but very very accurate details. On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 9:38 AM, hugh mccann wrote: > Question: > What to do? Try pulling it and topping it off with _distilled_ water, there is a line, and I'd bet dollars to donuts it's not filled to it. There should be plugs you can remove. Beware the drain hose. It won't be instantly resurrected, you'll need to tend it for some time (24 hours or so should do it). Take a short ride, park, start it up a little later, make sure it holds the charge. > Should the battery be replaced? if so how, because it looks like the > battery is hidden under 100 years of German engineering and a Gordian > Knot or two. It might be hard to replace the knots, but if the distilled water thing doesn't work, or if it is already filled to the line, replace it, it's likely dead. > > What was the deal with my battery tender not keeping up with its part > of the deal? Well, if it's low on blood(water+acid) it's 'full' level will also be lower, the tender won't(can't) > > This is putting a damper on this Sunday. Ha, well, you could have push started it. (I'm kidding, single cylinder + light bike + well traveling suspension would make that unpleasant) As has been mentioned before, f650.com houses a HUGE amount of technical data laced with opinion and zealotry, do look there as well for any concern, regardless of how minute, there is a seriously huge amount of information. From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Apr 28 14:09:15 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:09:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Battery Problems References: Message-ID: > I commence starting procedures and then Blah, nothing, no start and > those bright lights quickly dim. The speedometer gets a ticky-tack > flutter that i have seen before indicating "no go-go juice". > Question: > What to do? > Should the battery be replaced? if so how, because it looks like the > battery is hidden under 100 years of German engineering and a Gordian > Knot or two. > This is putting a damper on this Sunday. > Powerless in Collegeville. > Hugh Hugh, Now don't panic ! We have many electronic wizards on this list. You are in good hands. My quick suggestion is to clean both terminal very well and then check your electrolite in the cells, fill with distilled water if any cell is low. Those chargers can cook the fluid right out if you don't pay attention. Try hooking to a voltmeter and check you reading. I hope it isn't below 10 volts. Now, I will bow the EE's on the list. Hey gang, please help this fine man. Good luck.........we need your support on Sunday. Regards, Todd From douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 12:58:40 2010 From: douglas.t.raymond at gmail.com (Doug Raymond) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:58:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R going back to Germany In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Doug Raymond wrote: > My girlfriend and I are going to Germany on Thursday for a long weekend. > A change: we are leaving this afternoon, since the family moved the funeral up one day. Therefore I will miss tonight's MacPac dinner, which I very much regret. See you all pretty soon. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Apr 28 15:11:24 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:11:24 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: It is all Relative In-Reply-To: <7FD6F33FD6A7445696117224BE0FDE3B@dellfe483b726d> References: <7FD6F33FD6A7445696117224BE0FDE3B@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: <21185.12.181.211.35.1272467484.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > >> Do we have a rough count for Sunday? Todd. You can put me down as a volunteer. I will have the sidecar (the R90s is still w/o inspection). What time do you want me there? I can bring a vest if needed. >> Also what is the donation? (up to the donator)? > > Can I make the check out to: St. Jude Children's Research Hospital ? Ride Safe, Joe From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 15:25:31 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:25:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Battery Problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am with Mark here a good bit but will add some stuff as some sounds symptomatic, and nobody's looking for the root cause. And electricity is MAGIC to many. On 4/28/10, Mark Mehalik wrote: > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 9:38 AM, hugh mccann wrote: > > > Question: > > What to do? > Try pulling it and topping it off with _distilled_ water, there is a > line, and I'd bet dollars to donuts it's not filled to it. There > should be plugs you can remove. Beware the drain hose. > > It won't be instantly resurrected, you'll need to tend it for some > time (24 hours or so should do it). > > Take a short ride, park, start it up a little later, make sure it > holds the charge. The issue is why does the battery "boil dry". The water in the sulphuric acid is turned into O2 and H2 due to overcharging. Why is that occurring. The early F650's had a goofy system where the Rectifier/Regulator had the voltage sense lead at the end of the wiring harness. The HL was bright but the voltage to the battery was high. The 2H2O turned into 2H2 and O2. There is a "fix" for it that saved the battery but you really wanted HL relays which are ALWAYS a good thing. The "fix" which is good, will help but "some" of the sulphate ions in the sulphuric acid have adopted a permanent marriage with lead and you have a battery with reduced capacity. It can get you going for a while but the battery is likely toast. The other part is that the Battery Tender can be bad and is over charging too. > > Should the battery be replaced? if so how, because it looks like the > > battery is hidden under 100 years of German engineering and a Gordian > > Knot or two. Yes, buried batteries are the lastest "in thing". > > What was the deal with my battery tender not keeping up with its part > > of the deal? > > Well, if it's low on blood(water+acid) it's 'full' level will also be > lower, the tender won't(can't) Yes kinda. You had volts but no capacity. Low liquid levels due to "something" will give you a shortage of electrons for usefulness. >From the original one: > I commence starting procedures and then Blah, nothing, no start and > those bright lights quickly dim. You had volts, no amps. The speedometer gets a ticky-tack > flutter that i have seen before indicating "no go-go juice". Electronic's don't like the low volts associated with no free electrons due to lack of proper sulphuric acid concentrations. > HISTORY: > > Since October of 2007 i have had 2 instances of long idle times (2-3 > weeks of not cranking the engine over) that required the battery > tender. Since you will be practiced at the mind trick and hand manipulations of what it takes to get there, I would get a meter that will measure current. Radio Shack, Sears have CHEAP units that will work. Most also have a separate plug for a 10A (amp) range which is a GOOD place to start. All of this is with the ignition OFF. DO NOT TURN THE BIKE ON!!! Set up the meter to measure 10A. Disconnect the NEGATIVE lead(s) and put the meter leads between the leads and the battery. See what the current is. If it is 0.x you have an issue. If it is 0.00 then rearrange the meter leads to lower ranges and start at the HIGHEST current setting and see what the value is. (You DO NOT want an "autoranging" meter, they can get WAY confused, or be confusing.) You are trying to find out how much current the bike is sucking out "just sitting there." If it is too high that will pull battery down. If you have accessories connected to the battery, they can be pulling current out of it all the time. (GPS (aka boulder hunters) can do that.) If you have more than one lead connected to the battery NEGATIVE check each lead on its own. How are you connecting the BT to the bike? Via the accessory plug, or via direct connect? (No current should be going out via that battery connection.) If the accessory plug, does your bike have the CanBus setup, and the accessory plug will only charge it using the $uper duper expen$$$ive battery charger. At least as configured from the factory. The BT can be overcharging it due to an internal issue, but it would take some futzing with it to see what it is doing. The issues as I see it, is does the battery have some parasitic drain on it, that is pulling current out. THat is bad and would explain the "won't start if left for a few weeks." Or the battery tender has some issue. It you have a drain, the constant cycling can drive the H2O off too. If you decide to replace the battery and it might be permanently hurt if the water was low for for a while. There is Penn Battery up by Reading and they so sell blems for lower bucks. The battery terminals can be a "bit different" and need some fiddling then. HTH. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motorrader at verizon.net Wed Apr 28 15:26:50 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:26:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ride for the Record.............. Message-ID: <311CD82D33154CAE93E0ECF01E8B3EF8@dellfe483b726d> Fellow Riders, Sunday morning was rainy, chilly and miserable and yet Jack Riepe and Dave Case rose extra early to meet me at MCC to assess the situation for Sunday's ride. I'm sure there were a hundred places they would rather have been, then in that empty parking lot getting wet. After perusing every available square foot and crunching all the critical data using complex mathematical formulas, a consensus was reached. The parking lots at MCC will have more than enough capacity for our GWR setting attempt when the bikes are spaced 6 centimeters apart. We all are very familiar with Jack's prolific writing skills, but who would have thought he was also an organizational mastermind. We all kicked around our thoughts and ideas from the meeting. When I got home I was greeted with a 3 page memo listing everything we must do to prepare for Sunday's ride. Paying attention to the most minute detail, leaving no stone unturned........NOTHING left to chance. I'm telling you, this memo was impressive. How fortunate we are that Jack is on our team. Also, I received the best news possible yesterday after visiting with the Chief of Police of Hilltown Township. Get this............Hilltown Township is going to shut down Old Bethlehem Pike and Rt 309 Northbound (both lanes). This is incredible and beyond anything I could have hoped for. This means we will have ALL of North bound Rt 309 to ourselves and we can reach our mileage goal without any interference. This is a big deal and will help with the video filming too. So all that is left is for every one to reach out to as many fellow BMW riders as you can, so we can make this a successful event. Happy Motoring, Todd Trumbore From ephoet at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 16:15:05 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:15:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ruh Roh! Message-ID: Sad tale.... at some of our favorite restaurants, no less. -------------------------------------- Story: Chesco restaurant owner busted for failure to pay taxes WEST CHESTER — The state Attorney General's Office has charged the owner of three area restaurants with failing to remit sales taxes collected and employee income taxes withheld at his businesses. Andrew Weintraub, 44, of Uwchlan, waived his right to a preliminary hearing at district court Tuesday in Lionville. Weintraub owns Brickside Grille in Eagleview, The Drafting Room in Lionville and The Drafting Room at Spring House. For more of this story, click on or type the URL below: http://delcotimes.com/articles/2010/04/28/news/doc4bd83f9c1d0ca197488059.txt From kaldewaay at live.com Wed Apr 28 16:27:14 2010 From: kaldewaay at live.com (Kaldewaay) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:27:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] APRIL RIDERS' DINNER...REMINDER!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Sorry to inform you all, Suzie and I will not be able to make the > monthly riders dinner. We where just informed that Susie dad is > coming into town who we haven't seen for 6 months. Send from Alain Kaldewaay iPhone From jack.riepe at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 16:29:53 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:29:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] APRIL RIDERS' DINNER...REMINDER!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Alain: Bring him to the dinner, and you won't see him for another six months. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 16:27:35 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:27:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ride for the Record.............. In-Reply-To: <311CD82D33154CAE93E0ECF01E8B3EF8@dellfe483b726d> References: <311CD82D33154CAE93E0ECF01E8B3EF8@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: Dear Todd: I couldn't organize a two-float parade of hookers. You are too kind. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Wed Apr 28 17:02:43 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:02:43 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Battery Problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <21626.12.181.211.35.1272474163.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > I am with Mark here a good bit but will add some stuff as some sounds > symptomatic, and nobody's looking for the root cause. And electricity > is MAGIC to many. > I heard this at work the other day and I this seems like a good place to repeat it. "Batteries don't die, they are murdered." Something is taking the battery out; overcharging, constant discharge, lack of water... You need to figure out what it is. Ride Safe, Joe From 321design at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 18:23:17 2010 From: 321design at gmail.com (Rob H) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:23:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] April RIDERS' DINNER..TONIGHT!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <-2107681979546382910@unknownmsgid> On Apr 28, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Ken Bruce wrote: > RIDERS' DINNER TONIGHT!! > > Thanks to all who have responded! Dang work always gets in the way of my fun; sorry I can't make it. > Rob; sent from my iPhone From bmwbrian at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 19:53:43 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:53:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Interesting story about flying in a U-2 Message-ID: http://www.barryschiff.com/high_flight.htm (WS) Impressive in MANY ways. It gains altitude all the time until you decide to land. It takes longer to get down than up. The engine is run one of two different ways. WFO, or idle. You need a fast car to land. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From wateredg at interlog.com Wed Apr 28 20:50:14 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:50:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Interesting story about flying in a U-2 References: Message-ID: <364BAF511AF3469497CB19BBE317C1CD@9200c> Hello Brian, From: "Brian Curry" > http://www.barryschiff.com/high_flight.htm > (WS) > > Impressive in MANY ways. It gains altitude all the time until you > decide to land. It takes longer to get down than up. The engine is > run one of two different ways. WFO, or idle. You need a fast car to > land. I read an article in Flying magazine about the U2, written by a civilian pilot. Some interesting facts: (1) The U2 was engineered to keep weight to an absolute minimum. There are no hydraulics. (2) You have to be physically fit to fly the US, and it is quite a work-out. At altitudes below its intended high-level cruise, you have to apply fully body weight to move the stick and rudder pedals. Once you're at high cruise, control surface pressure feels similar to a conventional plane. -Steve Makohin '01 R1100S/ABS Oakville, Ontario, Canada From wateredg at interlog.com Wed Apr 28 20:53:38 2010 From: wateredg at interlog.com (Steve Makohin) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:53:38 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Interesting story about flying in a U-2 [typos-fixed] References: <364BAF511AF3469497CB19BBE317C1CD@9200c> Message-ID: <6498283B43A34417A23478A82114F641@9200c> Dang typos. Sorry. Fixed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Makohin" To: "Mac-Pac" Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] OT: Interesting story about flying in a U-2 > Hello Brian, > > From: "Brian Curry" > >> http://www.barryschiff.com/high_flight.htm >> (WS) >> >> Impressive in MANY ways. It gains altitude all the time until you >> decide to land. It takes longer to get down than up. The engine is >> run one of two different ways. WFO, or idle. You need a fast car to >> land. > > I read an article in Flying magazine about the U2, written by a civilian > pilot. Some interesting facts: > > (1) The U2 was engineered to keep weight to an absolute minimum. There are > no hydraulics. > > (2) You have to be physically fit to fly the U2, and it is quite a > work-out. > At altitudes below its intended high-level cruise, you have to apply full > body weight to move the stick and rudder pedals. Once you're at high > cruise, > control surface pressure feels similar to a conventional plane. > > -Steve Makohin > '01 R1100S/ABS > Oakville, Ontario, Canada From mjcantwe at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 22:04:51 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:04:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] An update to subject OT: It had better start melting!! Message-ID: Amazingly enough, it's almost all gone... http://picasaweb.google.com/mjcantwe/Apr282010_2#5465311858970212066 ...although there is still about ten to twelve inches in the Lake Placid area. From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 22:36:04 2010 From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (Hugh McCann) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:36:04 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Battery Problems In-Reply-To: <21626.12.181.211.35.1272474163.squirrel@12.181.211.35> References: <21626.12.181.211.35.1272474163.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <48C54D77-EF4C-49C2-A6F1-0A5D064B2CA5@gmail.com> Battery is out. And low, how do I open it to fill it? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2010, at 1:02 PM, "Joe Dille" wrote: >> I am with Mark here a good bit but will add some stuff as some sounds >> symptomatic, and nobody's looking for the root cause. And >> electricity >> is MAGIC to many. >> > > I heard this at work the other day and I this seems like a good > place to > repeat it. > > "Batteries don't die, they are murdered." > > Something is taking the battery out; overcharging, constant discharge, > lack of water... You need to figure out what it is. > > Ride Safe, > > Joe > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From rtbeemer2 at verizon.net Thu Apr 29 00:10:55 2010 From: rtbeemer2 at verizon.net (Mark Barr) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:10:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW Record Ride - Parking Usher Volunteers needed References: Message-ID: <192D5377B90E43AF996BAC633908D9EA@mark27006ec5ac> Hi Dave, I'm in !! Mark Barr New Britain, PA 07 R1200 GS Adventure ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Case" To: "Mac-Pac" Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:56 PM Subject: [MAC-PAC] BMW Record Ride - Parking Usher Volunteers needed > Pac, > > Todd Trumbore, Jack Riepe and myself met last week at Montgomeryville > Cycle Center to look over the parking lot to figure out how to stage > the BMWs as they come in. Jack and Todd have some great ideas on how > this should proceed. My job is to get the bikes to their mark. > > I could use some volunteers to help usher the bikes in and to their > cue spot. I need about 4 to 10 people to do this, maybe more. > > Please let me know if you'd like to volunteer. I can fill you in on > details from there. > > Thanks! > > Dave Case > BMW staging coordinator > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 00:34:17 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:34:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: It had better start melting!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > D'oh!!! > > It's a balmy 39F this morning in SE PA, Mike. ?We'll try to send some > of that warmth up your way. ?Eco Dan, whatcha got down there in NC you > can send us to help send Mike? > > Dave Case Dave, Great ride down here today! 200 country road miles through Mountains of NC with lunch at Morisette Winery near Meadows of Dan VA just off BRP. Clear, beautiful, lots of bikes out and running. Come on down!! Dano From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 00:41:31 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:41:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Asphalt volcano's really!!! Message-ID: http://news.discovery.com/earth/asphalt-volcanoes-oil-spill.html (WS) "The world's largest and oldest piles of asphalt have been found on a sea floor basin off Santa Barbara, Calif. The six-story-tall "volcanoes" of crumbly, tarry stuff found 700 feet (213 meters) down are not a highway department waste dump. Rather, they are the result of natural oil seepage from the sea floor over tens of thousands of years." One more tidbit. The "natural" seepage of oil from the ocean floor off Santa Barbara has dumping a LOT more oil than has been spilled or released by people's activities. Kinda like the Iceland volcano dumped HUGE amounts of sulphur oxides into the air. And with NO permit to do it either!!!!! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From dbcase at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 00:51:56 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:51:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: It had better start melting!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > Dave, > > Great ride down here today! > >... > > Clear, beautiful, lots of bikes out and running. Come on down!! > > Dano > Y'got any tight mountain switchbacks I can test my 'metal' on? :) DC From rsorens at comcast.net Thu Apr 29 01:40:47 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:40:47 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: Alert: Al-Nakba Day May 15 - Middle East and NorthAfrica In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <02C88CD0BB914BE5863C32AEE8C46DF6@Tekki> >Hey, if anyone was planning a ride through the middle east please read the following.....I'll still be >in the region. >Carl > > >WorldcueR Alert >Severity: Warning Alert > >Security: Rallies across the Middle East and North Africa...... At first I thought you were talking about a long distance riding 'rally'....now what would the bonus points be? Mosques/refugee camps? Rick From motoedde2 at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 01:59:00 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:59:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: Alert: Al-Nakba Day May 15 - Middle East and North Africa In-Reply-To: References: <8B2EE11B32A976428276CBB901B8D8B005C38FFF@rstaemail02.rsta.drs.master> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:57 AM, Carl Boler wrote: > Hey, if anyone was planning a ride through the middle east please read the > following.....I'll still be in the region. > Carl > > > Worldcue? Alert > Severity: Warning Alert > > Security: Rallies across the Middle East and North Africa marking Al-Nakba > (Catastrophe Day) likely on May 15. Anti-Western sentiment high; avoid all > demonstrations. > > ?This alert began 27 Apr 2010 19:18 GMT and is scheduled to expire 16 May > 2010 23:59 GMT. > > ? - *Event*: Al-Nakba Day > ? - *Date*: May 15 > ? - *Location*: Middle East and North Africa (MENA) > ? - *Impact*: Tight security, possible violence > > *Summary* > Potentially large rallies marking the 62nd anniversary of Al-Nakba > (Catastrophe Day) will likely take place throughout the Middle East and > North Africa (MENA) on May 15. Al-Nakba commemorates the failed 1948 Arab > invasion against the then newly established state of Israel. These rallies, > designed to allow Arabs to show solidarity with Palestinians, will likely > have an anti-Western and anti-Israeli tone and could turn violent. > > *Background and Analysis* > The most significant rallies will likely occur in Palestinian communities in > Israel, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and the Palestinian Authority. These > rallies will likely be centered in or near Palestinian refugee camps, > mosques and main squares. Smaller rallies are likely in other major MENA > population centers. > > The controversial foreign and domestic policies of the right-wing government > in Israel, which are generally considered anti-Palestinian and anti-Arab, > could spur greater turnout and anger than normal. If demonstrators threaten > US or Israeli interests in the region, security forces will likely move to > disperse the demonstrations. > > *Advice* > Avoid all protests. Expect localized traffic disruptions. Stay away from > places of worship, Palestinian refugee campus, embassies and consulates as > well as Israeli representative offices in regional states with which Israel > maintains diplomatic or trade relations. > Related Advice: Tips for reducing your vulnerability in the event of civil > unrest. Intriguing...but apparently other sources have a different opinion of its etymology. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba_Day For those that don't want to read the entire article. The short version... "In 1947, the United Nations General Assembly proposed partitioning The British Mandate of Palestine into two states, Jewish and Arab. The Jewish community accepted the UN partition plan, while the Arab community in Palestine, supported by the Arab League, rejected the UN proposal and vowed to oppose it by armed struggle. In the ensuing war, in which the Palestinian Arabs failed to prevent the establishment of a Jewish state according to the partition plan, an estimated 700,000 Palestinian refugees,[5] and the destruction and abandonment of up to 418 Palestinian villages[6] are called al-Nakba ("The Catastrophe") by Palestinians." Unless you're in Palestinian territory, Google fails to turn up much evidence of violence in the Middle East sourced to this remembrance. So I'm not sure if WorldCue is fanning the sentiment to justify their cost to their corporate clients or if this is truly a concern. Either way, I'm not liking the continued profiling... -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From jasiii at earthlink.net Thu Apr 29 02:00:11 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 22:00:11 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R going back to Germany Message-ID: <25759461.1272506412082.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R going back to Germany > >My girlfriend and I are going to Germany on Thursday for a long weekend. > >We just got news that her mother Marta died peacefully in her sleep >Tuesday morning. The funeral is Saturday in Sulzbach/Murr. > >She was ready to go after many months of decline and we are not >grieving, but I will miss Marta. > >Sorry I can't join all of you on the Sunday GWR ride. >-- --------------- >Doug Raymond Please share our condolences for both of you on your loss with your girlfriend Jim & Anita James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From cjschaffer at verizon.net Thu Apr 29 02:06:55 2010 From: cjschaffer at verizon.net (C & R Schaffer) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 22:06:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R going back to Germany In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We are very sorry for your loss. Have a safe trip. Charlie -------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Raymond" Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:20 AM To: "Mac-Pac" Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R going back to Germany > My girlfriend and I are going to Germany on Thursday for a long weekend. > > We just got news that her mother Marta died peacefully in her sleep > Tuesday morning. The funeral is Saturday in Sulzbach/Murr. > > She was ready to go after many months of decline and we are not > grieving, but I will miss Marta. > > Sorry I can't join all of you on the Sunday GWR ride. > > -- > -- --------------- > Doug Raymond > R1150RT '02 > Ambler, PA > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2839 - Release Date: 04/27/10 > 14:27:00 > From jasiii at earthlink.net Thu Apr 29 02:33:23 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 22:33:23 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Battery Problems Message-ID: <25574721.1272508403350.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Battery Problems > >Battery is out. And low, how do I open it to fill it? > You should have 6 caps that pull or twist out. If you do not.. then you are "bonked" .. if the battery is fully sealed it is not made to be serviced. Hope this helps Jim James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 02:59:20 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 22:59:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RD 350 Cafe Racer Message-ID: You might want to put on a bib to absorb the drool http://motorcyclepictureoftheday.blogspot.com/2010/04/wicked-little-rd350-cafe-racer.html (WS) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 03:02:21 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:02:21 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Thursday humor Stone Age Science Fiction Message-ID: http://dresdencodak.com/2009/09/22/caveman-science-fiction/ (SFW) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 03:15:25 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:15:25 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Expect to pay more for pole dancing performances in NY Message-ID: They have to pay sales tax now. "The gyrations of a pole dancer may be difficult to execute, but that does not make them art, a New York state tax appeals board has concluded in rejecting an administrative law judge's finding that the exotic dancing qualifies for a sales tax exemption." http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202453225584&src=EMC-Email&et=editorial&bu=Law.com&pt=LAWCOM%20Newswire&cn=NW_20100427&kw=Pole%20Dancing%20Is%20Not%20Art%2C%20N.Y.%20Tax%20Appeals%20Panel%20Rules (WS) I suggest reading down to near the bottom to note the establishment's proprietor's name.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 03:23:59 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Expect to pay more for pole dancing performances in NY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Brian Curry wrote: > They have to pay sales tax now. > > "The gyrations of a pole dancer may be difficult to execute, but that does > not make them art, a New York state tax appeals board I remember back in the '50s when there was no sales tax (in Virginia). There were a lot more shoe string businesses able to make it and employ others then. They should eliminate it, at least temporarily to revive employment. I know. FAT CHANCE!! Dano From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Apr 29 03:45:49 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:45:49 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Battery Problems In-Reply-To: <48C54D77-EF4C-49C2-A6F1-0A5D064B2CA5@gmail.com> References: <21626.12.181.211.35.1272474163.squirrel@12.181.211.35> Message-ID: <4BD8C8AD.19196.3D106FC@localhost> > Battery is out. And low, how do I open it to fill it? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 28, 2010, at 1:02 PM, "Joe Dille" > wrote: > > >> I am with Mark here a good bit but will add some stuff as some > >> sounds symptomatic, and nobody's looking for the root cause. And > >> electricity is MAGIC to many. short... > > > > "Batteries don't die, they are murdered." > > > > Something is taking the battery out; overcharging, constant > > discharge, lack of water... You need to figure out what it is. > > Thy usually have 6 little plugs with screw slots on top. Many you can take out with a dime. Inside you will see a tube that goes about 3/4" into the battery. The water should be at the bottom of this tube. Only use distilled water to fill. Wash your hands after touching the battery. If any gets on your pants you will have holes after washing. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 05:56:17 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 01:56:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Motorcycle bowling, not to be done even by trained professionals Message-ID: http://perfectlytimedphotos.com/perfectly-timed-photo/7296-motorcycle-bowling (WS) Its hard on everything involved. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Thu Apr 29 10:05:18 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:05:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] RD 350 Cafe Racer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4BD9219E.6842.52C57C2@localhost> > You might want to put on a bib to absorb the drool > > http://motorcyclepictureoftheday.blogspot.com/2010/04/wicked-little-rd > 350-cafe-racer.html (WS) Sweet. I love 2-strokes. I love black bikes. I love cafe. What's not to like. Thanks. Ride Safe, Joe --------------------------------- Joe Dille Telford, PA USA joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us What happens on Earth, stays on Earth http://home.jtan.com/~joe/joe.htm From mjcantwe at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 10:59:48 2010 From: mjcantwe at gmail.com (Michael Cantwell) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:59:48 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: All gone. Message-ID: The following is a link to a photo I took yesterday when I got home from work. http://picasaweb.google.com/mjcantwe/Apr282010_2#5465311858970212066 In contrast, a mere 12 miles away, Lake Placid still had about six to ten inches. See you this weekend, Cantwell From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 12:54:18 2010 From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (hugh mccann) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:54:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Battery Problems - Solved Message-ID: Thanks to everyone for helping me out with my battery issue. The cells (left to right) were full, percentage wise 20, 40, 75, 40, 40,25,10, 0 I think who ever stated that the BT would cook off water was right and i think the 0% full cell is right under the Positive pole. Anyway, Great work and great minds in the MAC-PAC solving another issue. I wonder if the PAC could put their collective minds together and get Jack a lap-dance from Jennifer Aniston (I hear she is single). Hugh McCann f650GS (now with Amperage) Collegeville, pa From rcavalie at verizon.net Thu Apr 29 14:16:01 2010 From: rcavalie at verizon.net (Richard A. Cavaliere) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:16:01 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Doug R going back to Germany In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001001cae7a6$7f5dedd0$7e19c970$@net> Hi Doug, Sorry for your loss. Best Wishes. Rick Cavaliere -----Original Message----- From: mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com [mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+rcavalie=verizon.net at jtan.com] On Behalf Of Doug Raymond Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:59 AM To: Mac-Pac Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] Doug R going back to Germany On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Doug Raymond wrote: > My girlfriend and I are going to Germany on Thursday for a long weekend. > A change: we are leaving this afternoon, since the family moved the funeral up one day. Therefore I will miss tonight's MacPac dinner, which I very much regret. See you all pretty soon. -- -- --------------- Doug Raymond R1150RT '02 Ambler, PA _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From ridebackroads at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 14:20:34 2010 From: ridebackroads at gmail.com (Carl Boler) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:20:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Thanks for the Magazines Message-ID: The magazines has sparked some conversations about riding, mototouring and adventure riding. We're widing down at this camp but our optempo has picked up resulting in some long hours. I hope that I"m providing some positive influence in getting out to ride, taking and MSF class telling camping stories and the like. It's nice that the guys can divert their attention for a few minutes to talk about something fun or something that they like to do or WANT to do. My adventure reports have gotten a lot of attention around here and seeing that big GS, some of these guys are drooling. Thanks guys. I can see a European motorcycle tour in my near future. Carl, would rather be someplace else -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100429/868715cc/attachment.html From ephoet at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 14:25:31 2010 From: ephoet at gmail.com (Erik Hoet) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:25:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Battery Problems - Solved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:54 AM, hugh mccann wrote: > Thanks to everyone for helping me out with my battery issue. > > > The cells (left to right) were full, percentage wise > > > 20, 40, 75, 40, 40,25,10, 0 > > I think who ever stated that the BT would cook off water was right and > i think the 0% full cell is right under the Positive pole. > Hugh; Empty battery cells are not good. Simply refilling with water may give you some temporary "life" but in truth the plates are shot. Free oxygen (air) is not good for battery plates. You should consider purchasing a new battery. BTW, BT and other chargers do advise you to check the battery (& water levels ) periodically. Erik Hoet http://batterytender.com/resources/frequently-asked-questions.htm CAUTION: SOME THOUGHTS ON CONTINUOUS USE OF THE BATTERY TENDER and BATTERY TENDER PLUS AUTOMATIC BATTERY CHARGERS: Even though both chargers are designed for continuous use, with features that automatically drop the recharge voltage to safe "float" or "maintenance" levels, common sense dictates that ANY ELECTRICAL APPLIANCE CAN MALFUNCTION. Even with a field failure rate at only a small fraction of a percent, the likelihood that either charger will fail is still not zero. It is a good idea to check the battery and charger at least once a week, just to be safe. http://batterytender.com/resources/battery-basics.htm As long as they are functioning properly, the Battery Tender battery chargers can be left connected to the battery indefinitely. NOTE: The obvious question is: ?What happens if the charger is not functioning properly and it is left connected to a battery?? Batteries store a tremendous amount of energy due to their electrochemical composition. As that energy is transferred out of the battery into a load (discharging) and into the battery from a charger (charging), there are some risks involved. The basic chemical reaction occurs between the conductive lead grid, the various oxides and active materials, and the sulfuric acid, which is the electrolyte. Depending on the reaction rates, the sulfuric acid will decompose in to gaseous components. The biggest danger to a battery is water loss, ultimately resulting from the escape of hydrogen and oxygen gasses during recharge. The importance of charging voltage values applied to a battery, and the reason that several manufacturers recommend different charging voltages, is the effect that the charging voltage has on the acid decomposition into gas, or just simply ?gassing?. The more gas that is generated, the more water that is lost, the quicker the battery dries out, and ultimately wears out. From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 14:32:14 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:32:14 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Battery Problems - Solved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/29/10, hugh mccann wrote: > The cells (left to right) were full, percentage wise > > > 20, 40, 75, 40, 40,25,10, 0 > > I think who ever stated that the BT would cook off water was right and > i think the 0% full cell is right under the Positive pole. That battery is borked. It will cook it off IF the BT has an internal problem. It is NOT supposed to do that. That one cell took "all the charge" is not a good sign. Normally, if one cell dies by shorting, the others are the ones that boil off. You had one boil off, and not the others. Not a good thing. Or the cell under the post vents more cause the post is not tight in the case. You have "fixed" the immediate problem. However, is the alternator overcharging the battery? Is the BT not working properly? Unless you find out, it will be Do yah feel lucky punk, Do yah??? Oh, and bike sized battery cables will get you out of the jam if another vehicle is around. I DO NOT recommend considering it "FIXED" and just ignore it. But that's just me. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 14:45:13 2010 From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (hugh mccann) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:45:13 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Battery Problems - Solved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree that it should be replaced. But the good news is that I do have info to go on. The Original Owner had it for 1 year and may have BT it bad. When i get it back to Hermys, i can bring up the idea that the Alternator is the jerk in this configuration. Question, Should i replace with the same Yuasa Yumicron, or go for something Sealed? and if anyone know a local place to pickup said battery (anywhere around the 19426 0r 19406 area codes) let me know. > > Hugh McCann > f650GS (now with Amperage) > Collegeville, pa > From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 15:04:17 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:04:17 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Battery Problems - Solved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/29/10, hugh mccann wrote: > I agree that it should be replaced. But the good news is that I do > have info to go on. > > The Original Owner had it for 1 year and may have BT it bad. Or not. BTs are GOOD. I have kept stuff on it for MONTHs with no issues. You have to find out WHAT. When i > get it back to Hermys, i can bring up the idea that the Alternator is > the jerk in this configuration. Not banging Hermy's. Electricity is MAGIC to MECHANICs and they "do stuff" and "find what is wrong." Most of the time no clue what the "stuff" does to show it is wrong. IMNSHO you are better measuring the voltage on the battery terminals on your own. Even moreso check for sneak parasitic discharges. The MECHANICS that understand what they are doing looking for parasitic discharges while not zero is hard to tell it from zero. > Question, > > Should i replace with the same Yuasa Yumicron, or go for something Sealed? That is a religout argument. > and if anyone know a local place to pickup said battery (anywhere > around the 19426 0r 19406 area codes) let me know. The Big Brown Truck goes there I am sure. You might give check with: East Penn Manufacturing Company, Inc. Deka Road Lyon Station, PA 19536 USA Main Phone: 610-682-6361 Customer Service: 610-682-4231 They have blems too, and that can be good at the cost of a battery. Roddy is close and you might work out something. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From brian at whatever2k.com Thu Apr 29 15:18:42 2010 From: brian at whatever2k.com (Brian Burdette) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:18:42 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Battery Problems - Solved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BD9A352.4090803@whatever2k.com> >> Should i replace with the same Yuasa Yumicron, or go for something Sealed? http://faq.f650.com/FAQs/BatteryFAQ.htm#Section%20-%20Battery%20List f650.com is THE source of F650 data. -- Brian Burdette -- brian at whatever2k dot com -- Pleasant Hill MO, USA From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Apr 29 15:32:54 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:32:54 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Interesting story about flying in a U-2 References: <364BAF511AF3469497CB19BBE317C1CD@9200c> Message-ID: >> Impressive in MANY ways. It gains altitude all the time until you >> decide to land. It takes longer to get down than up. The engine is >> run one of two different ways. WFO, or idle. You need a fast car to >> land. > > (1) The U2 was engineered to keep weight to an absolute minimum. There are > no hydraulics. > > (2) You have to be physically fit to fly the US, and it is quite a > work-out. > At altitudes below its intended high-level cruise, you have to apply fully > body weight to move the stick and rudder pedals. Once you're at high > cruise, > control surface pressure feels similar to a conventional plane. > > -Steve Makohin I have a neighbor who was flying Corsairs as a Marine pilot at age 18 during WWII. He later went on to fly for Air America and flew the U2 with Gary Powers and he flew the SR71 Blackbird. This is only the tip of the iceberg for him.............plenty more stories of an incredible life. He's 83 years old and has the energy of a teenager. More details later. Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Apr 29 15:56:28 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:56:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Battery Problems - Solved References: Message-ID: > Great work and great minds in the MAC-PAC solving another issue. I > wonder if the PAC could put their collective minds together and get > Jack a lap-dance from Jennifer Aniston (I hear she is single). > > Hugh McCann > f650GS (now with Amperage) > Collegeville, pa Great news, we'll see you Sunday ! Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Apr 29 15:37:08 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:37:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] An update to subject OT: It had better start melting!! References: Message-ID: > Amazingly enough, it's almost all gone... > http://picasaweb.google.com/mjcantwe/Apr282010_2#5465311858970212066 > ...although there is still about ten to twelve inches in the Lake Placid > area. Michael, That is just amazing and I good thing too. My records show you are rider 242 and that would put us over the top and into the record books. We are counting on you...........See you Sunday. Todd From bmwbrian at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 16:15:31 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:15:31 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] This could make tire changing a LOT easier.... Message-ID: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/04/st_robotfilmaking (WS) Just load the wheels on the machine, punch up what tire and wheel size it is and let it go to town.... I wonder if Doug Raymond could program it for us? Or maybe Earle can use his punch press programing knowledge. And they are "on sale".... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motorrader at verizon.net Thu Apr 29 17:57:35 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:57:35 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ride for the Record........Sunday May 2nd Message-ID: <55E86995F2744A18AC6D1B3AED51FFEC@dellfe483b726d> More Wonderful News ! The stars are starting to align nicely. We will now have the assistance of four (4) police departments and one fire police which will make this ride as seamless as possible. Hilltown, Hatfield, Richlandtown and Pennridge Regional as well as Line Lexington are all contributing and rolling out the red carpet for us. I could not be happier. This is far more than I expected, but the biggest surprise was from Chief Englehart of Hilltown Township when he said "We'll just shut down Old Bethlehem Pike and both lanes of the 309 bypass northbound"........I think my jaw dropped at this point ! I later found out that Chief Englehart is a rider himself..............that explains everything! This turn of events will allow us to change our "Parade" formation from two abreast to a staggered formation which will be safer and allow us to pick up the pace to some degree. Keep in mind we must still maintain a fairly tight grouping as required by GWR. I don't know about the rest of you, but I know I don't plan on being part of any Guinness World Record attempt in the near future and most likely this will be the only opportunity no matter how obscure a record it is. So lets give it our best shot. Bring your friends, your neighbors, your neighbors friends any BMW riders that you have ever met. The good people at St. Jude's will appreciate it and you can be proud of that. Also, if we do break the record every participant will be able to order an official GWR certificate for yourself. Something nice to hang on your wall ! The weather is looking real good ! Lets have some fun. See you Sunday morning. Regards, Todd Trumbore PS. After the parade route is completed you are welcome to break off and ride back to MCC for some more festivities or continue on with your day. For those who have the time, I would strongly urge you to continue on the scenic ride I have laid out in beautiful Bucks County. The route is extremely fluid with a minimum amount of stops and only 3 left turns. The course will be MARKED so don't worry about getting separated. There is no practical way to keep a group this large together. Just follow the markings or the route sheet and continue on until you are back at MCC. The ride should take you 45 - 50 minutes and I believe you will enjoy the road selection. Please ride with care, common sense and be considerate of your fellow riders ! From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 18:05:56 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:05:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Fwd: WE ARE COMING...! ET's on the plane to Chicago USA In-Reply-To: <00d201cae64d$85b06280$6d13b85d@ws01> References: <00d201cae64d$85b06280$6d13b85d@ws01> Message-ID: Looks like the electric ECOMOBILE (now called E-TRACER) is dead serious about the X-PRIZE and heading for Michigan International Speedway to duke it out with whoever (see email below). Since Tesla was involved in the rules making, they will be lucky if they get past the qualification stage. But if they can qualify, eyes will be opened (and cages will rattle loud enough to be heard in Philly). From: Roger Riedener Date: Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:06 PM Subject: WE ARE COMING...! ET's on the plane to Chicago USA To: Roger Riedener Hi all, today, we have loaded the two PERAVES E-Tracer's on to tomorrow's SWISS flight LX08 from ZRH to ORD. This yellow/black couple represents the world's fastest and by far most efficient two-seater sports vehicle. Both have private swiss road registration. It has been a couple of pretty hectic months at the Peraves "skunk works" in Winterthur, though. The new ET 7009 with the sturdy all-american 204-hp-AC-Propulsion-powerplant has, like anticipated, worked right off the shelf and goes like hell...together with?the race-proven ET 7002 with hyper-efficient swiss BRUSA 150-hp-electric drive, we have two?deadly serious?weapons for the X-Prize-Competition (www.piaxp.com) , where we will start off with the "Shakedown-Event" next Sunday. If we don't get outruled for "unfair physical advantage" or some other made-up infringement or competitor protests, we?ought to?win our Alternative, tandem seater division by a country mile...read more about the daily progress at Michigan International Speedway, USA on our own blog on the www.monotracer.com homepage. Now's the time & place?to express my thanks to all the team members below for working more than overtime for just?the occasional?pizza and a beer. Special thanks have to go to the mechanic & electric dreamteam Sushi & Beppo (also known as Steven & Beat...) and of course to Mr Eco himself, Arnold, you have pushed us and yourself to the limits once again, and it is that push?what keeps this little company alive n' kicking. At the same time, we would like to thank all of our suppliers, supporters, shareholders, friends, spouses and girlfriends for all of their help & understanding during these last tense weeks. But finally, we're ready to rumble... wish us luck! The X-Tracer Team Switzerland Peter Model, Jim Lorimer, Fredi Durot, Felix Wagner (driver 7009) and yours truly, Roger Riedener (driver 7002) CEO PERAVES AG/Ltd. MonoTracer Sales Office Uster West 52 CH-8610 Uster Phone: 0041 79 211 11 77 From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 19:19:16 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:19:16 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Was ist das? Message-ID: This is how X-PRIZE team Switzerland describes their reasoning behind the E-TRACER (SON OF ECOMOBILE) competition vehicles. ECO Dano Greensboro NC Team Switzerland Profile THE HUMMINGBIRD AND THE SWAN: The Story of the E-Tracer PIAXP X-Tracer Team Switzerland Story The sight the Peraves? E-Tracer? cornering at a 52-degree lean instills awe, if not trepidation. But fear not, this electric-powered cabin motorcycle was engineered for safety as well as fun and efficiency. Accelerating to 60 mph in under five seconds, at top speed of over 150 mph and covering a distance of 150 miles on a single one-hour battery charge, the X-Tracer Team Switzerland?s entry in this year?s Progressive Insurance Automotive X PRIZE (PIAXP) competition is likely to zoom off with first prize in the alternative class. Anyone tempted to dismiss the E-Tracer as either a puffed up motorcycle or a slimmed down car, however, is missing the point. When asked what inspired the E-Tracer design, the X-Tracer Team Switzerland is quick to respond: the hummingbird and the swan. What can the hummingbird and the swan tell us about vehicle design? Plenty, according to X-Tracer team leader, Roger Riedener. Riedener explains: ?We are huge fans of well-engineered cars, whether they resemble sports cars like the Porsche 911 or eco-boxes like the famous but unfortunate Audi A2.? But, he laments, of the millions of cars built annually, the efficiency of the average (based on sales figures) automobile is dismal. The automobile is a frozen tribute to the era that first produced it, when fossil fuel oozed plentifully and cheaply and landscapes unfurled like pristine pages waiting to be inscribed. Today?s car transports an average of 1.4 people from point A to point B amid creature comforts, ample baggage storage and protection from weather and harm ? all at the bargain price of 15,000?35,000 USD. On the opposite end of the driving spectrum sits the sport motorcycle. ?All of our team members have at least one of these fun machines in their garage,? Riedener eagerly asserts. With a price tag between 15,000?20,000 USD, the sport bike delivers real bang for the buck: ?There isn?t anything quite like a power-to-weight ratio of 1:2 for the money!? But pleasure and power collide head-on with grim mortality statistics for these bikes, targeting them for possible regulatory extinction. At the very least, they could soon carry the stigma of being ?socially incorrect,? if singled out by the airbag generation and their safety-crazed governments who demonstrate zero tolerance for passenger injury. Such concerns were not urgently voiced back in 1974, when jet pilot and aircraft designer Arnold Wagner founded Peraves Ltd. in Winterthur, Switzerland, to advance his vision of an alternative driving experience. Since 1985 Peraves Ltd. has been hand assembling the world?s only cabin motorcycle in production, the Ecomobile, adding the MonoTracer? in 2009. The company?s built-to-order MonoTracer? is powered by a high-performance BMW internal combustion bike engine. Developed for speed rather than overall efficiency, its fuel economy is already an astounding 50?65 MPG. All members of the X-Tracer team have been designing, building and playing with these extraordinary machines for 25 years. Emphasis should be placed on the word ?play.? In 1996, ten Ecomobiles rode through 22 US states in what Riedener recalls as ?one huge lap of America, doing no less than 7000 miles in three weeks. My best holiday ever!? Anually since 1990, the growing Peraves community has convened at a racetrack to compete in their own ?World Championship for Cabin Motorcycles.? The event enhances driving skills, feeds design improvements and fosters friendship among the over 100 owners of Peraves vehicles. The new MonoTracer? out-performed all expectations from Day One. Still, a huge leap forward in its development was possible with the availability of lithium ion (Li-Ion) cells. Explains Riedener: ?Upon the arrival of lithium cells in 2000, it was clear that the first purely electric high-performance road vehicle would be the ?smallest available two-seater plane without wings? -- which is, incidentally, the MonoTracer!? And it is at this crossroads where we, and the Peraves cabin motorcycle, encounter the hummingbird and the swan. Core members of the X-Tracer team have also been electric model RC flying enthusiasts for two decades. This experience provided key input into their 2007 proof-of-concept prototype of the E-Tracer?, the first electric cabin motor cycle. The comparatively small size and extremely low drag of the E-Tracer due to it?s single track and the tandem seating allows, by the laws of physics, scaling of the electrical drive comparable to a small airplane. This could never work in a normal-size car. The inner circles of airplane design refer to this phenomenon as the Hummingbird-Swan-Effect: The hummingbird uses approximately two grams of its total muscle mass of eight grams to sustain hovering flight over a nectar stem. A swan, with ten kilograms of mass, would require a wing muscle mass of over twenty kilograms to perform the same party trick, bringing its total proportional weight closer to 30 kilograms. In effect, this leads to a wing muscle that weighs in excess of 50 kilograms ? The picture becomes clear: The E-Tracer is the hummingbird. Illustrated another way, a mid-size car with an electric drive typically consumes 400 Wh/mile. To attain a range of 200 miles, the equivalent 80-kW battery would weigh 1200 pounds and cost 40,000 USD. It is the body-mass index that impedes or enhances any vehicle?s performance. Fuel efficiency directly correlates to a vehicle?s body-mass index. In fact, fossil fuel remains a highly ?efficient? energy source. One kilogram of premium fossil fuel packs more than 12,000 Wh of thermal energy whereas the same amount of the best lithium ion cells has just attained 200 Wh of usable storage. The sad truth is that 90% of the planet?s fossil fuel resources have been squandered on cars that run on 10% energy efficiency. By contrast, the E-Tracer carries 120 kg of Li-Ion cells on board, but maximizes its energy efficiency to 90%. Thus 120 kg of Li-Ion cells, equal to just 2 kilos of gasoline, at 90% efficiency powers the E-Tracer at a rate of 300 MPG. The PIAXP requirement of 100 MPGe pushes the physical limits of what we all recognize as a car ? however reduced its bulk, weight, or friction, and whatever its drive: turbo-diesel, hybrid, or pure electric. On the other hand, the physical limits of a 1200-pound, fully-enclosed tandem two-seater with a one-track main running architecture and an additional extendable three-track maneuvering system lie somewhere between 350?400 MPGe. This leaves a lot of room for fun in the E-Tracer, which easily achieves 200 MPGe during sporty driving. The X-Tracer Team elaborates on just a few points: ? We don?t have to use thin wheels and pump them up to 50 psi. ? We don?t have to use rear-facing cameras as mirrors. ? We do not shave off every ounce of weight and can therefore invest in some luxury. ? Aerodynamics don?t have to compromise daily usability, as is the case in many of today?s cars. ? We don?t have to worry about passing the slow 18-wheeler in front of us on a two-lane road, we just do it. ? We can overpower the E-Tracer with a 204-hp electric engine, resulting in a very sporty 10-lb/hp weight-to-power-ratio fully loaded with two occupants. This is clearly Porsche Territory. ? With over 1100 Nm always available at the rear wheel, there is plenty of safe acceleration on tap to cope with the ever-decreasing gaps in today?s traffic. This is more like Ferrari or Lamborghini Territory. ? All this with a 150-mile range and a 250-pound battery for 10?000 US$ at this time of writing. Prices per kWh will eventually come down by 30-50%, but not like with DVD Players, cellphones or flat-screens by 90% in ten years. Batteries are mainly made out of resources, and not of engineering or marketing costs. In short, the E-Tracer keeps it nice and sexy; or, ?green and sexy,? as Mrs. Micheline Calmy-Rey, the Swiss Foreign Minister, accurately described the future of individual transportation at the 2008 Geneva Car Show. Each year perhaps 10,000 sports car owners who also have a love affair with the sports bike would be captivated by the E-Tracer?s ability to combine the talents of the two. These owners would enjoy a welcome bonus: peace of mind. For, depending on the source of electricity, they are able to reduce their carbon footprint to virtually zero. For example, 15-m2 of photovoltaic solar panels on a garage roof produce ample current to power the E-Tracer for 10?000 miles per year. And, the E-Tracer looks as good in the city as it does on the open road. In tomorrow?s mega-cities (following trends already established in London, Tokyo, Singapore and Hong-Kong), it will be crucial to limit traffic to electric-powered vehicles within certain boundaries. Not only does the E-Tracer qualify, it is entitled to use less congested bus lanes due to its classification as a motorbike. Already in Singapore, it is impossible to purchase a car without proof of a parking space! Because a bike can be parked virtually anywhere, the E-Tracer owner is able to bypass this rule. The E-Tracer is able to sneak through traffic thanks to its very narrow (less than 4-foot wide) form, which also reduces the risk of head-on collision to nearly nil. This latter fact is proven by 25 years of safe driving records maintained by Ecomobile and E-Tracer customers across 20 million miles. It is easy to see that these solutions, fueled by longtime Peraves passions and play, are more than suddenly relevant. They are elegant. The hummingbird and the swan have taught these innovators well, and the planet will only benefit in the short and the long run. And along the road, the X-Tracer Team Switzerland may bring home the PIA X-Prize. From honeybrk at dejazzd.com Thu Apr 29 19:47:53 2010 From: honeybrk at dejazzd.com (Marge Busch) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:47:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Harley-Davidson ups the ante Message-ID: <019201cae7d4$dbab4c80$4001a8c0@FastHP> For a long time, you've either been a Harley guy or not a Harley guy, and never the twain shall meet. But in the last few years, Harley-Davidson has been building some products that attempt to reach across the aisle and embrace the many consumers who have been buying retro-styled, yet sporty, products from Triumph, Moto Guzzi and Ducati. The recent XR1200R is a great example, and so is the Harley-Davidson Forty-Eight from the Sportster line. Replacing the skinny 21-inch spoked front wheel is a tough-looking fat wheel, shod with a sticky sportbike tire. The low saddle, peanut tank and near-flat, speedway-style handlebar and low-slung suspension all say "stoplight brawler." Are you going to ride this thing a thousand miles in a day and carve up canyon roads? No, but this is a bike that puts the Sportster back in its rightful place as a sporty machine, rather than a boulevard cruiser. ( From Hemmings Motor News) From chrisjac at ptd.net Thu Apr 29 21:02:59 2010 From: chrisjac at ptd.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:02:59 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Harley-Davidson ups the ante In-Reply-To: <019201cae7d4$dbab4c80$4001a8c0@FastHP> References: <019201cae7d4$dbab4c80$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: <4BD9F403.3040602@ptd.net> Marge Busch wrote: > For a long time, you've either been a Harley guy or not a Harley guy, and > never the twain shall meet. But in the last few years, Harley-Davidson has > been building some products that attempt to reach across the aisle and > embrace the many consumers who have been buying retro-styled, yet sporty, > products from Triumph, Moto Guzzi and Ducati. The recent XR1200R is a great > example, and so is the Harley-Davidson Forty-Eight from the Sportster line. > Replacing the skinny 21-inch spoked front wheel is a tough-looking fat > wheel, shod with a sticky sportbike tire. The low saddle, peanut tank and > near-flat, speedway-style handlebar and low-slung suspension all say > "stoplight brawler." Are you going to ride this thing a thousand miles in a > day and carve up canyon roads? No, but this is a bike that puts the > Sportster back in its rightful place as a sporty machine, rather than a > boulevard cruiser. > > ( From Hemmings Motor News) > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > > > How much ad money did Harley spend with Hemmings to have that printed? Chris Jaccarino From rys at R2Controls.com Thu Apr 29 21:52:58 2010 From: rys at R2Controls.com (Rick Rys) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:52:58 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] FW: Was ist das? Message-ID: <006c01cae7e6$55276560$ff763020$@com> Dan - a very impressive machine indeed. What's not to like about it, OH! just the price. The X-prize competition is just now underway over the next few months in Michigan. 40 teams and 11 countries are involved. http://www.progressiveautoxprize.org/teams The Loremo entry (seemed like a top competitor to me) has pulled out - maybe some management shakeup back at the headquarters. Rick Rys 2006 R1200GSA -----Original Message----- From: mac-pac-l-bounces+rys=r2controls.com at jtan.com [mailto:mac-pac-l-bounces+rys=r2controls.com at jtan.com] On Behalf Of Dan Whitfield Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:19 PM To: Mac-Pac Subject: [MAC-PAC] Was ist das? This is how X-PRIZE team Switzerland describes their reasoning behind the E-TRACER (SON OF ECOMOBILE) competition vehicles. ECO Dano Greensboro NC Team Switzerland Profile THE HUMMINGBIRD AND THE SWAN: The Story of the E-Tracer PIAXP X-Tracer Team Switzerland Story The sight the Peraves' E-TracerR cornering at a 52-degree lean instills awe, if not trepidation. But fear not, this electric-powered cabin motorcycle was engineered for safety as well as fun and efficiency. Accelerating to 60 mph in under five seconds, at top speed of over 150 mph and covering a distance of 150 miles on a single one-hour battery charge, the X-Tracer Team Switzerland's entry in this year's Progressive Insurance Automotive X PRIZE (PIAXP) competition is likely to zoom off with first prize in the alternative class. Anyone tempted to dismiss the E-Tracer as either a puffed up motorcycle or a slimmed down car, however, is missing the point. When asked what inspired the E-Tracer design, the X-Tracer Team Switzerland is quick to respond: the hummingbird and the swan. What can the hummingbird and the swan tell us about vehicle design? Plenty, according to X-Tracer team leader, Roger Riedener. Riedener explains: "We are huge fans of well-engineered cars, whether they resemble sports cars like the Porsche 911 or eco-boxes like the famous but unfortunate Audi A2." But, he laments, of the millions of cars built annually, the efficiency of the average (based on sales figures) automobile is dismal. The automobile is a frozen tribute to the era that first produced it, when fossil fuel oozed plentifully and cheaply and landscapes unfurled like pristine pages waiting to be inscribed. Today's car transports an average of 1.4 people from point A to point B amid creature comforts, ample baggage storage and protection from weather and harm - all at the bargain price of 15,000-35,000 USD. On the opposite end of the driving spectrum sits the sport motorcycle. "All of our team members have at least one of these fun machines in their garage," Riedener eagerly asserts. With a price tag between 15,000-20,000 USD, the sport bike delivers real bang for the buck: "There isn't anything quite like a power-to-weight ratio of 1:2 for the money!" But pleasure and power collide head-on with grim mortality statistics for these bikes, targeting them for possible regulatory extinction. At the very least, they could soon carry the stigma of being "socially incorrect," if singled out by the airbag generation and their safety-crazed governments who demonstrate zero tolerance for passenger injury. Such concerns were not urgently voiced back in 1974, when jet pilot and aircraft designer Arnold Wagner founded Peraves Ltd. in Winterthur, Switzerland, to advance his vision of an alternative driving experience. Since 1985 Peraves Ltd. has been hand assembling the world's only cabin motorcycle in production, the Ecomobile, adding the MonoTracerR in 2009. The company's built-to-order MonoTracerR is powered by a high-performance BMW internal combustion bike engine. Developed for speed rather than overall efficiency, its fuel economy is already an astounding 50-65 MPG. All members of the X-Tracer team have been designing, building and playing with these extraordinary machines for 25 years. Emphasis should be placed on the word "play." In 1996, ten Ecomobiles rode through 22 US states in what Riedener recalls as "one huge lap of America, doing no less than 7000 miles in three weeks. My best holiday ever!" Anually since 1990, the growing Peraves community has convened at a racetrack to compete in their own "World Championship for Cabin Motorcycles." The event enhances driving skills, feeds design improvements and fosters friendship among the over 100 owners of Peraves vehicles. The new MonoTracerR out-performed all expectations from Day One. Still, a huge leap forward in its development was possible with the availability of lithium ion (Li-Ion) cells. Explains Riedener: "Upon the arrival of lithium cells in 2000, it was clear that the first purely electric high-performance road vehicle would be the 'smallest available two-seater plane without wings' -- which is, incidentally, the MonoTracer!" And it is at this crossroads where we, and the Peraves cabin motorcycle, encounter the hummingbird and the swan. Core members of the X-Tracer team have also been electric model RC flying enthusiasts for two decades. This experience provided key input into their 2007 proof-of-concept prototype of the E-TracerR, the first electric cabin motor cycle. The comparatively small size and extremely low drag of the E-Tracer due to it's single track and the tandem seating allows, by the laws of physics, scaling of the electrical drive comparable to a small airplane. This could never work in a normal-size car. The inner circles of airplane design refer to this phenomenon as the Hummingbird-Swan-Effect: The hummingbird uses approximately two grams of its total muscle mass of eight grams to sustain hovering flight over a nectar stem. A swan, with ten kilograms of mass, would require a wing muscle mass of over twenty kilograms to perform the same party trick, bringing its total proportional weight closer to 30 kilograms. In effect, this leads to a wing muscle that weighs in excess of 50 kilograms . The picture becomes clear: The E-Tracer is the hummingbird. Illustrated another way, a mid-size car with an electric drive typically consumes 400 Wh/mile. To attain a range of 200 miles, the equivalent 80-kW battery would weigh 1200 pounds and cost 40,000 USD. It is the body-mass index that impedes or enhances any vehicle's performance. Fuel efficiency directly correlates to a vehicle's body-mass index. In fact, fossil fuel remains a highly "efficient" energy source. One kilogram of premium fossil fuel packs more than 12,000 Wh of thermal energy whereas the same amount of the best lithium ion cells has just attained 200 Wh of usable storage. The sad truth is that 90% of the planet's fossil fuel resources have been squandered on cars that run on 10% energy efficiency. By contrast, the E-Tracer carries 120 kg of Li-Ion cells on board, but maximizes its energy efficiency to 90%. Thus 120 kg of Li-Ion cells, equal to just 2 kilos of gasoline, at 90% efficiency powers the E-Tracer at a rate of 300 MPG. The PIAXP requirement of 100 MPGe pushes the physical limits of what we all recognize as a car - however reduced its bulk, weight, or friction, and whatever its drive: turbo-diesel, hybrid, or pure electric. On the other hand, the physical limits of a 1200-pound, fully-enclosed tandem two-seater with a one-track main running architecture and an additional extendable three-track maneuvering system lie somewhere between 350-400 MPGe. This leaves a lot of room for fun in the E-Tracer, which easily achieves 200 MPGe during sporty driving. The X-Tracer Team elaborates on just a few points: . We don't have to use thin wheels and pump them up to 50 psi. . We don't have to use rear-facing cameras as mirrors. . We do not shave off every ounce of weight and can therefore invest in some luxury. . Aerodynamics don't have to compromise daily usability, as is the case in many of today's cars. . We don't have to worry about passing the slow 18-wheeler in front of us on a two-lane road, we just do it. . We can overpower the E-Tracer with a 204-hp electric engine, resulting in a very sporty 10-lb/hp weight-to-power-ratio fully loaded with two occupants. This is clearly Porsche Territory. . With over 1100 Nm always available at the rear wheel, there is plenty of safe acceleration on tap to cope with the ever-decreasing gaps in today's traffic. This is more like Ferrari or Lamborghini Territory. . All this with a 150-mile range and a 250-pound battery for 10'000 US$ at this time of writing. Prices per kWh will eventually come down by 30-50%, but not like with DVD Players, cellphones or flat-screens by 90% in ten years. Batteries are mainly made out of resources, and not of engineering or marketing costs. In short, the E-Tracer keeps it nice and sexy; or, "green and sexy," as Mrs. Micheline Calmy-Rey, the Swiss Foreign Minister, accurately described the future of individual transportation at the 2008 Geneva Car Show. Each year perhaps 10,000 sports car owners who also have a love affair with the sports bike would be captivated by the E-Tracer's ability to combine the talents of the two. These owners would enjoy a welcome bonus: peace of mind. For, depending on the source of electricity, they are able to reduce their carbon footprint to virtually zero. For example, 15-m2 of photovoltaic solar panels on a garage roof produce ample current to power the E-Tracer for 10'000 miles per year. And, the E-Tracer looks as good in the city as it does on the open road. In tomorrow's mega-cities (following trends already established in London, Tokyo, Singapore and Hong-Kong), it will be crucial to limit traffic to electric-powered vehicles within certain boundaries. Not only does the E-Tracer qualify, it is entitled to use less congested bus lanes due to its classification as a motorbike. Already in Singapore, it is impossible to purchase a car without proof of a parking space! Because a bike can be parked virtually anywhere, the E-Tracer owner is able to bypass this rule. The E-Tracer is able to sneak through traffic thanks to its very narrow (less than 4-foot wide) form, which also reduces the risk of head-on collision to nearly nil. This latter fact is proven by 25 years of safe driving records maintained by Ecomobile and E-Tracer customers across 20 million miles. It is easy to see that these solutions, fueled by longtime Peraves passions and play, are more than suddenly relevant. They are elegant. The hummingbird and the swan have taught these innovators well, and the planet will only benefit in the short and the long run. And along the road, the X-Tracer Team Switzerland may bring home the PIA X-Prize. _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l From crocov502 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 29 22:15:57 2010 From: crocov502 at yahoo.com (Arla Hile) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MAC-PAC] Harley-Davidson ups the ante In-Reply-To: <019201cae7d4$dbab4c80$4001a8c0@FastHP> References: <019201cae7d4$dbab4c80$4001a8c0@FastHP> Message-ID: <409682.72058.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Marge Busch The recent XR1200R is a great example, and so is the Harley-Davidson Forty-Eight from the Sportster line. snip ************************************************************************************ So they can use the motor that Eric Buell tidied up for them. Mr. Buell, incidentally, has been busy: http://www.roadracerx.com/features/between-the-races/between-the-races-erik-buell/ Arla From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 22:26:51 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:26:51 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Harley-Davidson ups the ante In-Reply-To: <4BD9F403.3040602@ptd.net> References: <019201cae7d4$dbab4c80$4001a8c0@FastHP> <4BD9F403.3040602@ptd.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Chris wrote: > Marge Busch wrote: >> For a long time, you've either been a Harley guy or not a Harley guy, and >> never the twain shall meet. But in the last few years, Harley-Davidson has >> been building some products that attempt to reach across the aisle and >> embrace the many consumers who have been buying retro-styled, yet sporty, >> products from Triumph, Moto Guzzi and Ducati. The recent XR1200R is a great >> example, and so is the Harley-Davidson Forty-Eight from the Sportster line. >> Replacing the skinny 21-inch spoked front wheel is a tough-looking fat >> wheel, shod with a sticky sportbike tire. The low saddle, peanut tank and >> near-flat, speedway-style handlebar and low-slung suspension all say >> "stoplight brawler." Are you going to ride this thing a thousand miles in a >> day and carve up canyon roads? No, but this is a bike that puts the > How much ad money did Harley spend with Hemmings to have that printed? I have done a lot touring, even two week tour of the Southwest (riding two up), on a Sportster. It needs to be setup for the job, but it can be as good as any. Dano From rsorens at comcast.net Fri Apr 30 01:47:55 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:47:55 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Ruh Roh! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <68E52EB5827A4E4C90D6386A3648D074@Tekki> Erik; 1st read thru on this, I thought you made a cooking joke.... ...then looked at the spelling: Roux - not RUH DOH!!! Rick >>>>>>>>>> Sad tale.... at some of our favorite restaurants, no less. -------------------------------------- Story: Chesco restaurant owner busted for failure to pay taxes WEST CHESTER — The state Attorney General's Office has charged the owner of three area restaurants with failing to remit sales taxes collected and employee income taxes withheld at his businesses. Andrew Weintraub, 44, of Uwchlan, waived his right to a preliminary hearing at district court Tuesday in Lionville. Weintraub owns Brickside Grille in Eagleview, The Drafting Room in Lionville and The Drafting Room at Spring House. For more of this story, click on or type the URL below: http://delcotimes.com/articles/2010/04/28/news/doc4bd83f9c1d0ca197488059.txt >>>>>>>>>>> From elkwalks at ptd.net Fri Apr 30 02:30:21 2010 From: elkwalks at ptd.net (Dan Dolby) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:30:21 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Gioachino Rossini 'Armida' Message-ID: <216D051056F6437D9EAD183FC22C0F49@dan736a7e1b29d> I have one extra ticket for this Saturday, May 1st, simulcast from the Met in HD. This is the last 'Met At The Movies in HD' for the season. Plush seats in the Regal Cinema/King of Prussia are the venue. One o'clock is kickoff. High C me there or be square From whitfield.dan at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 05:03:21 2010 From: whitfield.dan at gmail.com (Dan Whitfield) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 01:03:21 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Harley-Davidson ups the ante In-Reply-To: References: <019201cae7d4$dbab4c80$4001a8c0@FastHP> <4BD9F403.3040602@ptd.net> Message-ID: Sorry, should have said "Better than any." Oh please. Pull another gerbil out your butt. Dano On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Scott Royer wrote: > Oh please.? It can be done, but that is hardly the same thing as it being > "as good as any." > > On Apr 29, 2010 6:27 PM, "Dan Whitfield" wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Chris wrote: >> Marge Busch wrote: >>> For a long ... > >> How much ad money did Harley spend with Hemmings to have that printed? > > I have done a lot touring, even two week tour of the Southwest (riding > two up), on a Sportster. > > It needs to be setup for the job, but it can be as good as any. > > Dano > > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mai... From bmwrebel at dejazzd.com Fri Apr 30 12:11:34 2010 From: bmwrebel at dejazzd.com (bmwrebel at dejazzd.com) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 5:11:34 -0700 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT-Lexmark 70 printer cartridges Message-ID: <20100430071134.1URRO.1622905.root@ispmxfep10-z02> My Lexmark printer does not print any more, I have 3 new cartgridges. One Lexmark 70 black and 2 Staples brand refills black. If you can use, let me know, I would like a few $$$. Cost me over $70.00. I can bring Sunday or mail. From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Apr 30 13:15:52 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:15:52 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Help!....Corey needs bike for a friend Message-ID: <88259999253D40D391BF67A86249DAB7@dellfe483b726d> Corey Lyba writes............... Thanks for putting this all together. I have updated my Facebook status to remind people of the event. Does anyone have an extra bike for that day? I have a friend with license, that is without a ride. He's not a BMW guy, but if it will put us over the mark, I'd ask him to ride. See you there. I know there were some very gracious riders who offered up their extra motorbikes, does anyone still have one for Corey's friend ?? Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Apr 30 13:34:27 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:34:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2 ride References: <80368.48089.qm@web58706.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2AB3C36D5BBC464EAAFAADA4C2549489@dellfe483b726d> >I have a couple of questions, and don't know who to ask. > > My two-wheeled BMW is unable to make the ride. Does my BMW/Hannigan trike > qualify to be counted towards the record? Will the trike take up too much > parking lot space? > > Will registration/parking volunteers be able to ride for the record? > thank you for any information you can give me. > > Bruce W Boyd Hello Bruce, Sure you can ride the Trike as long as it is a registered and titled BMW. And yes any volunteers will certainly be included in this ride. There will be plenty of room for your Hannigan trike. Bob Jones said he had over 500 motorbikes in his lot for one event. Thanks for your interest. Regards, Todd Trumbore From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 13:38:32 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:38:32 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2 ride In-Reply-To: <2AB3C36D5BBC464EAAFAADA4C2549489@dellfe483b726d> References: <80368.48089.qm@web58706.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <2AB3C36D5BBC464EAAFAADA4C2549489@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: Thank God this guy is coming. He has the true Mac Pac spirit. Do you think Brian Curry should be in the front of the parade with his spoon, Todd? How many think Brian Curry should be in the front with his spoon? Say Aye! -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Apr 30 13:43:15 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:43:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2 ride References: <80368.48089.qm@web58706.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <2AB3C36D5BBC464EAAFAADA4C2549489@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: Thank God this guy is coming. He has the true Mac Pac spirit. Do you think Brian Curry should be in the front of the parade with his spoon, Todd? How many think Brian Curry should be in the front with his spoon? Say Aye! Fondest regards, Jack Aye......................We need the spoon man on the podium giving a pep talk ! Todd From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Apr 30 13:41:36 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:41:36 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2nd ride - is anyone bringing the banner? Message-ID: Should the banner be displayed? -- Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 13:36:15 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:36:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Help!....Corey needs bike for a friend In-Reply-To: <88259999253D40D391BF67A86249DAB7@dellfe483b726d> References: <88259999253D40D391BF67A86249DAB7@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: Dear Todd Et Al: I happen to know wehere a bunch of our members are going to be on Sunday, and it won't be trying to break the record. I'm still shocked.... -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From dbcase at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 13:51:12 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:51:12 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Help!....Corey needs bike for a friend In-Reply-To: References: <88259999253D40D391BF67A86249DAB7@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Jack Riepe wrote: > > Dear Todd Et Al: > > I happen to know wehere a bunch of our members are going to be on > Sunday, and it won't be trying to break the record. I'm still > shocked.... > I'll bite. Where? What could be better than this record breaking spectacle? Dave Case From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 13:59:02 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:59:02 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Mike Cantwell is lost in deep Adirondacks snows, Could Be delayed for GWB Run... Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Fiends and Colleagues: I got several incredible messages from Mike Cantwell this morning. The first was a bone-chilling statement that the snow was over the axel on his font wheel when he left his driveway this morning... But that nothing was going to keep him from attending the Mac Pac attempt to break the Guiness World Record on Sunday. And his would be the first tracks in the drifting snow through the Wilmington notch in the Adirondacks today. I was so choked up, I nearly cried. Then two hours later, I got another message from him, saying that it was slow going, as ice build-up on his helmet prvented him from opening it to breathe properly. Neverheless, he was still coming, as he did not want to go through life knowing that the Mac Pac may have lost this historic record-breaking attempt (perhaps by two or three) because he was a chicken-shit, or worse, because he decided to sit on his ass in the sun someplace, sipping drinks. I got another message from Mike Cantwell just five minutes ago... He said, "Have only gone three feet in the last 45 minutes... Howling winds and subfreezing temperatures have numbed my face... My brave K75 has begun to falter, right in front of the only pole-dancing competition in the entire North Country. The topless dancers have insisted I join them until feeling returns... I may be a few minutes late... However, I wouldn't think of not showing up, as I would feel awful if the Mac Pac fell short of its goal by two or three riders. Would there be erxtra bikes if three of the girls decided to asccompany me. They do not want the Mac Pac to fall short of their record-breaking goal, by two or three riders (the same number of riders who may be sitting on their collective asses someplace, have cool, fruity drinks, instead of showing up for this historic ride)." -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 14:03:33 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:03:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Help!....Corey needs bike for a friend In-Reply-To: References: <88259999253D40D391BF67A86249DAB7@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: Dear Dave: I learned this horrible truth at the Mac Pac dinner the other night. When one of the soon to be missing riders spilled the beans. But his girlfriend is coming to volunteer, because she does not want to be tarred with the same brush as (I can't say) if the Mac Pac shoud fall short of its numbers by 2 or 3 riders. I was so touched, I almost cried. When I asked her, how do you feel about (I can't say) sitting on his ass in the hot sun, drinking cool, fruity drinks," she replied, "If the shoe fits..." -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From motoedde2 at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 14:06:40 2010 From: motoedde2 at gmail.com (edde m) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:06:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Chinese Bullet Train that Never Stops Message-ID: Pretty neat solution...why couldn't Amtrak use this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Ig19gYP9o&feature=related -- edde m 93 K75s, 84 Ascot VT 500(hers), 96 Tacoma 4x4 2.7L, 79 240D(hers) Philadelphia, US web: motoedde From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 14:10:29 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:10:29 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2nd ride - is anyone bringing the banner? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Banner!!!!!!! We forgot the banner!!!! Who's got the banner???? Just image the figure of Brian Curry, wrapped in the banner, waving his spoon in the air, standing on the registration tables... That might be a bit much. Okay, try this ? Imagine Kimi Bush, wrapped in the banner, standing on the registration tables, shouting, "Where's Brian?" She'd look like the little girl on the barricades of Les Miserables. So would Bregstein under the same circumstances. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Apr 30 14:11:20 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:11:20 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2nd ride - is anyone bringing the banner? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3681.12.181.211.35.1272636680.squirrel@12.181.211.35> > Should the banner be displayed? > I vote Yes. Ride Safe, Joe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 14:11:27 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:11:27 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2 ride In-Reply-To: References: <80368.48089.qm@web58706.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <2AB3C36D5BBC464EAAFAADA4C2549489@dellfe483b726d> Message-ID: I haven't heard that Brian was coming. Is Brian coming? -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From dbcase at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 14:18:30 2010 From: dbcase at gmail.com (David Case) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:18:30 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2 ride - sent local press release Message-ID: I notified the local paper of the upcoming GWR and Fund-Raising event. Also suggested they stage a photographer on the Fairhill Rd overpass, and inviting them to interview the crowd. Dave Case Lansdale, PA From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 14:50:20 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:50:20 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Chinese Bullet Train that Never Stops In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/30/10, edde m wrote: > Pretty neat solution...why couldn't Amtrak use this? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Ig19gYP9o&feature=related Look at it closer. Do the math. It appears to be about 1.5 times as tall as existing trains. Tunnels are going to be a BITCH. Do the math. It is accelerating the "transport unit" from dead stop to the speed of the train in the length of the train. That is going to be pretty substantial acceleration. The slowing down might be worse. Your not changing the speed of the power unit, you are still accelerating the transport unit. Math is hard. Tops of tunnels are REALLY HARD. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 15:24:10 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:24:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Friday Funnies Message-ID: http://www.omgsoysauce.com/11569/50-funny-ironic-pictures/ -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Apr 30 15:30:15 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:30:15 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2nd ride - is anyone bringing the banner? References: Message-ID: <8EF5513BC05248F3B1F4F293A75AFE98@dellfe483b726d> > Should the banner be displayed? > > Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com > Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com Great point Wayne !! My time is a little tight right now, but if someone can get me the banner, I will hoist it atop of a staff which I can mount on the sidecar. This should get a lot of exposure.......good for the club. Todd From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Apr 30 15:49:46 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:49:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Mike Cantwell is lost in deep Adirondacks snows, Could Be delayed for GWB Run... References: Message-ID: <84AF90A37FD042C5BA94A3551E547F4F@dellfe483b726d> ... However, I wouldn't think of not showing up, as I would feel awful if the Mac Pac fell short of its goal by two or three riders. Would there be erxtra bikes if three of the girls decided to asccompany me. They do not want the Mac Pac to fall short of their record-breaking goal, by two or three riders (the same number of riders who may be sitting on their collective asses someplace, have cool, fruity drinks, instead of showing up for this historic ride)." -- Fondest regards, Jack Beautiful,................just beautiful Jack. I couldn't bear to see Michael stranded in that snow blizard when we are about to embark on a GWR attempt, so I sent my pal Whiskey Willie up there in his '56 Chevy Apache pick up on a rescue mission. He said he should be back before sunrise. Todd From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Apr 30 15:43:50 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:43:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT: Friday Funnies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > http://www.omgsoysauce.com/11569/50-funny-ironic-pictures/ > Here are my contributions. This one I shot around Christmas: http://2zars.blogspot.com/2010/02/bad-photo.html This one's a little more obscure: http://2zars.blogspot.com/2009/07/this-was-shot-next-to-royal-treat-in.html -- Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Fri Apr 30 16:02:34 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:02:34 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2nd ride - is anyone bringing the banner? References: Message-ID: I just got off the phone with Rick Sorensen. He said.... THE BANNER WILL BE THERE! Jim Robinson West Chester PA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100430/b7eec071/attachment.html From bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net Fri Apr 30 16:19:01 2010 From: bmw96k1100rs at verizon.net (Jim Robinson) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:19:01 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Labrador-Newfoundland Trip Planning Message-ID: <2AF5CFCE6A004ED3A46BBBD2EEC2F55B@home.robinson.org> Well I haven't done this in about 10 years, but I called out sick today from work due to a very bad sore throat. Despite feeling otherwise fine I gave the germ-a-fobes at work a break. Anyway since I called out sick I took the time to do a rough draft of our planned trip to Labrador - Newfoundland. Mind you this is a rough draft and will be altered I figure if we venture to the eastern section of Newfoundland our total trip mileage will be around 4400 miles. If we leave on the 6th of August like we planned and return on the 16th (a total of 13 days) this comes out to be about 338 miles per day. Although this is a doable number if we can keep it down to 4000 miles total (307Mi/Day) it would alllow for some extra sightseeing and picture taking. It would also allow us to deal with any unforseen issues. For those still interested please let me know what your schedules are for the next 2 weekends? I'll hold the next planning meeting at my place. Nice link for determining travel distances in Canada. http://www.stats.gov.nl.ca/DataTools/RoadDB/Distance/Default.aspx Jim Robinson West Chester PA From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Apr 30 16:23:18 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:23:18 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2nd ride - is anyone bringing the banner? References: Message-ID: >I just got off the phone with Rick Sorensen. He said.... > > THE BANNER WILL BE THERE! > > Jim Robinson > West Chester PA Terrific ! Good job Jim. Now the question is will Dan Queva be there from ABC 6 ? Todd From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 16:45:07 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:45:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2nd ride - is anyone bringing the banner? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I contacted all the TV news prople I knewm and went through the Business Desk at the Philly Inquirer to reach the Weekend Desk Editor. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 16:46:08 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:46:08 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Labrador-Newfoundland Trip Planning In-Reply-To: <2AF5CFCE6A004ED3A46BBBD2EEC2F55B@home.robinson.org> References: <2AF5CFCE6A004ED3A46BBBD2EEC2F55B@home.robinson.org> Message-ID: Jim, what does your trip plan look like for Sunday? -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From Doug at pencader.com Fri Apr 30 16:56:05 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:56:05 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2nd ride - is anyone bringing the banner? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <023801cae886$0825b0f0$187112d0$@com> Todd wrote; >>>>> snips >> I just got off the phone with Rick Sorensen. He said.... > >> THE BANNER WILL BE THERE! > >> Jim Robinson >> West Chester PA > Terrific ! Good job Jim. > Now the question is will Dan Queva be there from ABC 6 ? >>>>> end Todd, I think this is a perfect opportunity to invite Glenn "Hurricane" Schwartz to the event so that we can stand him up alongside the SpoonMeister and prove beyond any reasonable doubt that Brian Curry and Hurricane are, in fact, two individuals and not one-in-the-same! Hope to see you Sunday . . . BTW, what time do the "gates" officially open and what time is the official "ride" due to begin? Thanks, Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From jack.riepe at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 17:39:33 2010 From: jack.riepe at gmail.com (Jack Riepe) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:39:33 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] How to make Brian Curry appear on Sunday. Message-ID: Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: I for one would be proud to ride behind Brian Curry in this historic line of BMW motortcycles. But he's being so secretive. Maybe if we all close our eyes, hold hands, and say his name real slow, "Bryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyun," maybe he'll show up and lead us. -- Fondest regards, Jack The Lindbergh Baby West Chester, Pa "Not everyone you meet is going to be riding a K75... And you still have to be nice to them, at first." ? My Mother, Rita Riepe From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Apr 30 18:27:00 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:27:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2nd ride - is anyone bringing the banner? In-Reply-To: <023801cae886$0825b0f0$187112d0$@com> References: <023801cae886$0825b0f0$187112d0$@com> Message-ID: > > I think this is a perfect opportunity to invite Glenn "Hurricane" Schwartz > to the event so that we can stand him up alongside the SpoonMeister and > prove beyond any reasonable doubt that Brian Curry and Hurricane are, in > fact, two individuals and not one-in-the-same! Screw that, get Cecily Tynan!! -- Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From wayne at 2zars.com Fri Apr 30 18:28:54 2010 From: wayne at 2zars.com (Wayne Woodruff) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:28:54 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] How to make Brian Curry appear on Sunday. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: > > I for one would be proud to ride behind Brian Curry in this historic > line of BMW motortcycles. But he's being so secretive. Maybe if we all > close our eyes, hold hands, and say his name real slow, > "Bryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyun," maybe > he'll show up and lead us. > Jack, It's very simple. Everyone needs to bring a used crush washer. We toss them in the air simultaneously and he shall appear. -- Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com From hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 18:33:23 2010 From: hugh.p.mccann at gmail.com (hugh mccann) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:33:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I know a few members that are already embalmed. Message-ID: http://outofbounds.nbcsports.com/2010/04/post-442.html.php From jasiii at earthlink.net Fri Apr 30 18:39:27 2010 From: jasiii at earthlink.net (Jim Sterling) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:39:27 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2nd ride - is anyone bringing the banner? Message-ID: <5870147.1272652767848.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > >Screw that, get Cecily Tynan!! > >Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com Oh Yes.. She is easy on the eyes.. lot better looking then Glen Jim (trying to remember why) James Sterling III Ride Safe '96 R1100RS Red of course MOA 124289 RA 31244 AMA 808881 From Doug at pencader.com Fri Apr 30 18:44:43 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:44:43 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I know a few members that are already embalmed. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <027301cae895$3534bbe0$9f9e33a0$@com> Hugh wrote; >>>> snips > Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] I know a few members that are already embalmed. > http://outofbounds.nbcsports.com/2010/04/post-442.html.php >>>> end This clearly raises the bar on "dead"-ication! . . . couldn't resist Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE From reopropf at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 18:46:07 2010 From: reopropf at gmail.com (Peter Frechie) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:46:07 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] How to make Brian Curry appear on Sunday. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Have NO fear...our leader WILL appear. On Friday, April 30, 2010, Wayne Woodruff wrote: >> Dear Esteemed Friends and Colleagues: >> >> I for one would be proud to ride behind Brian Curry in this historic >> line of BMW motortcycles. But he's being so secretive. Maybe if we all >> close our eyes, hold hands, and say his name real slow, >> "Bryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyun," maybe >> he'll show up and lead us. >> > > Jack, > > It's very simple. ?Everyone needs to bring a used crush washer. ?We > toss them in the air simultaneously and he shall appear. > > > -- > Wayne Woodruff http://www.2zars.com > Photoblog: http://2zars.blogspot.com > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > From Doug at pencader.com Fri Apr 30 18:47:53 2010 From: Doug at pencader.com (Doug) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:47:53 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2nd ride - is anyone bringing the banner? In-Reply-To: References: <023801cae886$0825b0f0$187112d0$@com> Message-ID: <027401cae895$a644d360$f2ce7a20$@com> Wayne wrote; >>>> snips > >> I think this is a perfect opportunity to invite Glenn "Hurricane" Schwartz >> to the event so that we can stand him up alongside the SpoonMeister and >> prove beyond any reasonable doubt that Brian Curry and Hurricane are, in >> fact, two individuals and not one-in-the-same! > Screw that, get Cecily Tynan!! >>>> end But Wayne, correct me if I'm missin' somethin' here, but Brian looks NOTHING like Cecily Tynan! Doug '01 1150 GSP Bear, DE PS; Wayne; please call me immediately if you disagree - I know some people . . . From joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us Fri Apr 30 19:59:48 2010 From: joe at dille.montgomery.pa.us (Joe Dille) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:59:48 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2nd ride - is anyone bringing the banner? In-Reply-To: References: <023801cae886$0825b0f0$187112d0$@com> Message-ID: <19486.12.181.211.35.1272657588.squirrel@12.181.211.35> >> >> I think this is a perfect opportunity to invite Glenn "Hurricane" >> Schwartz >> to the event so that we can stand him up alongside the SpoonMeister and >> prove beyond any reasonable doubt that Brian Curry and Hurricane are, in >> fact, two individuals and not one-in-the-same! > > Screw that, get Cecily Tynan!! > Now yer talkin'! Ride Safe, Joe From rsorens at comcast.net Fri Apr 30 20:27:19 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:27:19 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2 ride In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >How many think Brian Curry should be in the front with his spoon? Say Aye! IN true Mac-Pac fashion, I answer: "NAY"!....or should I say "NAAHHHH!" Rick From rsorens at comcast.net Fri Apr 30 20:29:23 2010 From: rsorens at comcast.net (Rick Sorensen) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:29:23 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2nd ride - is anyone bringing the banner? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I got the banner covered! Jim Robinson called me out of a meeting today to make sure I knew it was needed! Wrap 'em up..... Rick From bmwbrian at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 20:36:44 2010 From: bmwbrian at gmail.com (Brian Curry) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:36:44 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] It just became more expensive to be non-profit Message-ID: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/23/us/23exempt.html (WS) ========== ?This is a good thing for the nonprofit sector, even though it will no doubt create a hardship for a pretty significant number of organizations,? Mr. Ottenhoff said. ========== Creates a hardship but is a "good thing"... Ummmm.... What is the book that went on about Double Speak??? Softening up those that are not puddles of mush already... ========== ?We need some way of tracking organizations,? she said. ?The system we have right now gives you no real idea of who?s in and who?s not ? and how can you manage a system if you don?t know who?s in or out of it?? ========== Now we are getting somewhere. It is MANAGEMENT, from the top of course, by the omnipotent and all knowing... Drink heavily. Ride powerful motorcycles fast in the rain. It is for the children I am sure. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassador BMW MOA | Brian Curry | Is Getting Old, Getting Old? "DEERsSLAYER" | Aging Factors Can be Stopped K75RTs both coasts | Find out more about it at Chester Springs PA | http://www.nsevideos.com From bmwrebel at dejazzd.com Fri Apr 30 22:13:11 2010 From: bmwrebel at dejazzd.com (bmwrebel at dejazzd.com) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:13:11 -0500 Subject: [MAC-PAC] K75 fuel pump relay Message-ID: <20100430171311.YZW17.1637766.root@ispmxfep10-z02> If any one has an extra K75 fuel pump relay they can spare, I could use it, I will be at the event Sunday. Thank you; Brett Gilbert From Ducdude at verizon.net Fri Apr 30 22:21:46 2010 From: Ducdude at verizon.net (Eric Ducdude) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:21:46 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] I know a few members that are already embalmed. References: <027301cae895$3534bbe0$9f9e33a0$@com> Message-ID: <3F86E68ACC794F2EB1CA591BBF7E69FE@heilveil5e3fdd> > Hugh wrote; > >>>>> snips > >> Subject: Re: [MAC-PAC] I know a few members that are already embalmed. > >> http://outofbounds.nbcsports.com/2010/04/post-442.html.php > >>>>> end > > This clearly raises the bar on "dead"-ication! > > . . . couldn't resist > > Doug ------------------------------------------------------- We he surly is a member of the corps of motorcycle riders..well er ah sitters any way.. Duc From Braveirwin at aol.com Fri Apr 30 23:16:38 2010 From: Braveirwin at aol.com (Braveirwin at aol.com) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:16:38 EDT Subject: [MAC-PAC] May 2nd ride - is anyone bringing the banner? Message-ID: <75d10.52cf47d8.390cbed6@aol.com> In a message dated 4/30/2010 9:43:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wayne at 2zars.com writes: Should the banner be displayed? =============================================== I will bring a banner. Roddy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100430/9169ccbe/attachment.html From motorrader at verizon.net Fri Apr 30 23:56:10 2010 From: motorrader at verizon.net (Todd Trumbore) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:56:10 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Update on Ride for the Record........... Message-ID: <6DB27F1C3E464A7B89EF507D2A27C427@dellfe483b726d> Fellow Riders, The weather looks very promising for Sunday and this is terrific news. Just a reminder. Montgomeryville Cycle Center will be open by 9am and sign-in/registration will begin shortly afterwards. This will give riders plenty of time to peruse the dealership order some needed parts, at a 15% discount I might add and kick some tires with friends and the MCC staff. Dave Case along with our volunteers will be there to assist in parking every rider so as to make our exit as smooth as possible. Jack Riepe along will more volunteers will be assisting with sign-up/registration. Since we have the cooperation of 4 local law enforcement departments, we must leave MCC in a timely manner as they are awaiting are arrival at key locations. We should start to exit MCC at 11:45am. This later departure time is needed to allow for out of state riders enough transit time and it allows us enough time to sign up everyone. In summary: Gates open.........................9am Ride departs.................11:45am Thanks for your interest in this event. Thanks for the assistance of all the staff and volunteers. I believe this will be a worthwhile event for a good cause. Hope to see you there. Happy Motoring, Todd Trumbore From bmwdick at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 15:01:45 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:01:45 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] 30 years of GS Message-ID: Edde and Doug did this without a GS. http://www.bmw-motorrad.es/es/es/index.html?content=http://www.bmw-motorrad.es/es/es/fascination/bmw_qs_30/photobuch.html -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 12:31:40 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:31:40 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] May-is-Motorcycle-Safety-and-Awareness-Month Message-ID: http://jacksonvilleprogress.com/local/x1271723157/May-is-Motorcycle-Safety-and-Awareness-Month -- BMW-Dick From bmwdick at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 21:06:50 2010 From: bmwdick at gmail.com (Dick) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:06:50 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Thanks for the Magazines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Carl: Someone dropped the magazines I shipped to you in a mailbox, and last week I received then back, all individually mailed. BMW-Dick On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Carl Boler wrote: > The magazines has sparked some conversations about riding, mototouring and > adventure riding. We're widing down at this camp but our optempo has > picked > up resulting in some long hours. I hope that I"m providing some positive > influence in getting out to ride, taking and MSF class telling camping > stories and the like. It's nice that the guys can divert their attention > for > a few minutes to talk about something fun or something that they like to do > or WANT to do. > > My adventure reports have gotten a lot of attention around here and seeing > that big GS, some of these guys are drooling. > > Thanks guys. > > I can see a European motorcycle tour in my near future. > > > > Carl, would rather be someplace else > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100429/868715cc/attachment.html > _______________________________________________ > Mac-pac-l mailing list > Mac-pac-l at jtan.com > http://mailman.jtan.com/mailman/listinfo/mac-pac-l > -- BMW-Dick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Who's got the banner???? > > Just image the figure of Brian Curry, wrapped in the banner, waving > his spoon in the air, standing on the registration tables... That > might be a bit much. Okay, try this ? Imagine Kimi Bush, wrapped in > the banner, standing on the registration tables, shouting, "Where's > Brian?" She'd look like the little girl on the barricades of Les > Miserables. So would Bregstein under the same circumstances. > > -- > Fondest regards, > Jack > > Dear Jack: > Nobody could ever image you standing on any table known to mankind . . .that would be one Trey Miserable Table. I'd be happy to stand on a table with Kimi, even the water table, periodic table, or table of contents. -- BMW-Dick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100430/842ae481/attachment.html From royer.scott at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 23:21:28 2010 From: royer.scott at gmail.com (Scott Royer) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:21:28 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Harley-Davidson ups the ante In-Reply-To: References: <019201cae7d4$dbab4c80$4001a8c0@FastHP> <4BD9F403.3040602@ptd.net> Message-ID: Oh please. It can be done, but that is hardly the same thing as it being "as good as any." On Apr 29, 2010 6:27 PM, "Dan Whitfield" wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Chris wrote: > Marge Busch wrote: >> For a long ... > How much ad money did Harley spend with Hemmings to have that printed? I have done a lot touring, even two week tour of the Southwest (riding two up), on a Sportster. It needs to be setup for the job, but it can be as good as any. Dano _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mai... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100429/239ad59a/attachment.html From royer.scott at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 10:16:00 2010 From: royer.scott at gmail.com (Scott Royer) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 06:16:00 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] Harley-Davidson ups the ante In-Reply-To: References: <019201cae7d4$dbab4c80$4001a8c0@FastHP> <4BD9F403.3040602@ptd.net> Message-ID: Oh please. It can be done, but that is hardly the same thing as it being "as good as any." On Apr 29, 2010 6:27 PM, "Dan Whitfield" wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Chris wrote: > Marge Busch wrote: >> For a long ... > How much ad money did Harley spend with Hemmings to have that printed? I have done a lot touring, even two week tour of the Southwest (riding two up), on a Sportster. It needs to be setup for the job, but it can be as good as any. Dano _______________________________________________ Mac-pac-l mailing list Mac-pac-l at jtan.com http://mai... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.jtan.com/pipermail/mac-pac-l/attachments/20100430/c836bd0b/attachment.html From rtill6 at aol.com Mon Apr 26 22:55:56 2010 From: rtill6 at aol.com (rtill6 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:55:56 -0400 Subject: [MAC-PAC] OT surveyor? Message-ID: <8CCB3AAC3C93091-1050-6438@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com> All My neighbor is putting an electric dog fence in. It looks like they are going on my property. I need to find the line. Do you have any suggestions on who could help? I have the property coordinates. Thanks Gordon